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NoTingles
19th January 2011, 03:54
I've been watching what has been going on between the US, N. Korea, S. Korea and China for a while and I think the time has come to sound the alarm. China is on the move, and her troops are marching, like the armies of Mordor. I suspected for a long time that it wouldn't be long before China started making overt moves to stretch her power and influence, and not just financially.

We see them on the one hand giving the President of the United States a dressing down while he tugs his forelock, and then we see them moving into N. Korea again, after leaving there in '94 or '95.

I've collected a series of articles that should be read. I'm not going to post them here because it's 5 pages long, US Letter, but I will attach it as a PDF that you can download and read.

Richard
19th January 2011, 04:26
South Korea's daily newspaper is reporting that what Western analysts have feared has happened: Chinese troops have been deployed into North Korea. The Chinese now have a presence in the rogue state for the first time in more than 15 years.

China has had no military presence in the rogue country since 1994 after it quit the Military Armistice Commission that supervises the Armistice that suspended the Korean war.
Since that time, Pyonyang has stridently announced that it will no longer abide by the agreement. During 2010 the North Korean government officially declared that it is once again in a state of war with South Korea and the U.S.

The South Korean government confirmed reports on January 18, 2011 that China has stationed military forces in the special economic zone of Rajin-Sonbong.

More.. (http://www.helium.com/items/2068349-china-moves-troops-into-north-korea)

ponda
19th January 2011, 04:55
Well you can't blame NK for allowing China to show a presence after all of the live fire military exercises that the US and SK have been doing lately right on NK's doorstep.

It's not like China has over a thousand military bases in over 150 countries world wide like the US has.

Hopefully things might quieten down a bit now on the peninsula.

Etherios
19th January 2011, 12:25
Well you can't blame NK for allowing China to show a presence after all of the live fire military exercises that the US and SK have been doing lately right on NK's doorstep.

It's not like China has over a thousand military bases in over 150 countries world wide like the US has.

Hopefully things might quieten doen a bit now on the peninsula.


Exactly... china moves to protect its interests next to its borders and we have USA that is being a bully half a glob away ... and we blame CHINA ? Armies of mordor ? lolololol

The One
19th January 2011, 12:32
They have took second spot in military power over Russia only America are fisrt but for how long

http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=China

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison.asp


Check out the World Military Strength Comparison on the above site Foreign Reserves for china $1,534,000,000,000 America $70,570,000,000

aroundthetable
19th January 2011, 12:34
If we are to give any credence to some of the 'big picture' theories, then this has been done with Americas full blessings and we are left to watch 'the game' in headless chicken mode.

Zepheriah
19th January 2011, 14:30
If we are to give any credence to some of the 'big picture' theories, then this has been done with Americas full blessings and we are left to watch 'the game' in headless chicken mode.

I think its fair to say we do that most of the time anyway, like it or not.

There is absolutely no way the Americans didn't know about that jet before the test flight. Maybe they didn't know from the start, but they did before it was wheeled out.


Not a lot they can do about it, China has as much right to have them as anyone else.

The jet is utterly inert in and of itself, it has no malice of its own, no predjudice. Like any weapon, it is pure, clean of purpose, it is the person weilding it that gives it it's meaning, thats the real worry.

Icecold
19th January 2011, 14:42
So, if it all goes to ****, whose side do you think the UK and Australia will support? I'll give you one guess.

BTW I support the views expressed above.

Zephariah, they knew about the plane, it was common knowledge for some time. I've been following the 5th gen story in US, Russia and China. The Chinese plane is similar in design to the new Russian fighter. The yanks have shelved their 5th gen and upgraded the Eagle. I think they are relying on black technologies and don't want to spend the money. NATO is still using the Tornado which has been upgraded somewhat.

Peace of Mind
19th January 2011, 17:31
All this time on this hugh beautiful planet, that is so rich in resources and life and we still find a way to fight each other over nonsense. I wonder if Human means parasite in some far off alien language...thats if Aliens exist and are monitoring us. If I was looking on, I would probably quarantine this place and warn others not to come here until we grow up and stop acting like a bunch of kids.

Peace

Rocky_Shorz
19th January 2011, 18:48
ahhh good, now it is time to start reuniting the Koreas...

this isn't a war move it is big brother stepping in to assist in transition type move.

no more unexpected missile launches...