What's happening in China?

[bluestflame]

maybe they are expecting visitors , better put the kettle on

[cayman]

Why is China building eerie 'ghost cities'?

Is this true Cayman? I would be interested in your thoughts on this...Thanks

Why is China constructing large, well-designed "ghost cities" that are completely devoid of people?........,............One of China's ghost cities is actually built in the middle of a desert in Inner Mongolia."

This is true.
this ghost city in the middle of a desert in Inner Mongolia would be ¨Ordos¨
http://finance.ifeng.com/roll/20100413/2043188.shtml
http://baike.baidu.com/view/7212.htm




................ a business teacher at Tsinghua University in Beijing, who explained, "Who wants to be the mayor who reports that he didn't get 8 percent GDP growth this year? Nobody wants to come forward with that. So the incentives in the system are to build. And if that's the easiest way to achieve growth, then you build."

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This is the exact reason

[cayman]

Just stopped reading Charles' threads - I'm so exhausted. Only a small pieces of valuable information and so many many many pages to read. Indeed - it's like trying to drink from the fire hydrant.

the show is great, but audiences are tired.
how about we walk out the house and get some fresh air, do something we can

[cayman]

Hallo Cayman ;)
I was visiting Beijing 20 years ago and I have seen how it looks now in TV.
Thank you for writing and explaning here about your contry.
It was very nice when I was there and much has hapened during this years.
Thank you !
Namaste

thank you. and I like your country, Sweden, right? Northern European Mythology is fascinated

[Maria Stade]

Hallo Cayman ;)
I was visiting Beijing 20 years ago and I have seen how it looks now in TV.
Thank you for writing and explaning here about your contry.
It was very nice when I was there and much has hapened during this years.
Thank you !
Namaste

thank you. and I like your country, Sweden, right? Northern European Mythology is fascinated


Hi Cayman ! Yes it is a beautyful part of Gaia !
The myths are not easy to understand and they have been changed by the church so it is not easy to grasp the truth.
Im not a very good student of mythologi but have looked in to it some of it.

Namaste

[cayman]

Cayman, thank you for the interesting travelogue. A close friend just took an extended trip to China. She, however, did not use a travel guide but took a guide book and backpacked all over the country, including Tibet. Like you, she found the Chinese people warm, friendly and lovely. She said she wouldn't have a problem living there (though I experienced some doubt about this statement--she being very accustomed to Western luxury). We both love Chinese art and artifacts, however.

Thanks
actually I think your friend's statement may be exactly the point of your doubt.
today, in China, Western luxury is very handy, of course, if you can afford it.:usa2:

:o Chinese art and artifacts, my expertise, that is a very deep rabbit hole. may be I will consider that as my second career someday.;)

[cayman]

For the last half month, there are so many radical changes happen in the very top of the power structure. I wanna write something about it but I don't know where to start, I feel there is a storm forming inside the top power. may be an outlook of the chinese govt. would take a deeper step in our conversation? what do you think?

[write4change]

Please do it. We are listening. Just be careful too.

[Maria Stade]

For the last half month, there are so many radical changes happen in the very top of the power structure. I wanna write something about it but I don't know where to start, I feel there is a storm forming inside the top power. may be an outlook of the chinese govt. would take a deeper step in our conversation? what do you think?

Yes pleace just start share what ever you feel is hapening !

[Snowbird]

Just stopped reading Charles' threads - I'm so exhausted. Only a small pieces of valuable information and so many many many pages to read. Indeed - it's like trying to drink from the fire hydrant.

You've just hit the C. nail right on its head.

BTW, I love your avatar pic. Welcome to PA!! :thank_you2:

[cayman]

.... Just be careful too.

That is the thing get in my way, I have to be very carefull to not cross the line, especially given the knowledge of the powerful 'spider'. at the same time , I'm not comfortable of rambling things without a confirm check. so I might start some pieces which being hidden in public domain, then into the pieces I think could be true, and leave the conclusion to your own opinion. things just happen too fast to check-recheck it all, give me some time to coordinate my stuff, I'll post it as soon as possible.

[sygh]

cayman,

Thank you so much! You have no idea how much joy I got form reading your post. What a pleasure you are!!!!

[cayman]

cayman,

Thank you so much! You have no idea how much joy I got form reading your post. What a pleasure you are!!!!

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy it, it's my pleasure. :o

[mrkumamon]

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[mrkumamon]

What is really happening in China-IV：Chinese "ROSWELL" Event

great to have you on the boards Cayman, Have a question on the UFO sighitings over airports in china, that were run on Youtube channels
was this News shown for the guy on the street in China?
Did people in China know it was going on? did the Offical Press print anything on this?
thanks
and we all are enjoying your posts here on the forum

yep, this was very well known as "XiaoShan UFO" event happened in July 2010, back then, every major websites in China and some local TV channel, several national newspaper cover that story for some weeks. There were very hot discussion about it, below is some very various good video of the same event. it cause a major airport shutdown, and appear in several big city, like Shanghai, Hangzhou,

video 1 (http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg4ODMxNTEy.html) this one is amazing
video 2 (http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjEwODIyMDc2.htmlODMxNTEy.html)
report 1 (http://club.mil.news.sina.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=236019)
report 2 (http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2010-07-26/022017861250s.shtml)

back then, this event got so big. Government had to sending out some "official" investigate team. of course, the end result is one word: vague. Just like “Roswell" but I'm sure that inspired more people to think....this kind of UFO sighting things happen in China very often recently, in many different places.
sometimes I can't help to think if we can call it "UFO self-disclosure movement".

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[cayman]

I think if we want to know who is behind the amazing development of China's techs ,we'd better follow the flow of money.
Or whether there're really some bases in which Chinese working by the help of alien brain like aliens working with USA gov ,possiblly it is I think.
......

Yep, follow the money---that is my expertise
I'll dig out the "white hats" within Chinese authority. then we will have our real disclosure project
that's what I'm focusing, I hope I'll have the first break before June this year.

[mrkumamon]

I think if we want to know who is behind the amazing development of China's techs ,we'd better follow the flow of money.
Or whether there're really some bases in which Chinese working by the help of alien brain like aliens working with USA gov ,possiblly it is I think.
......

Yep, follow the money---that is my expertise
I'll dig out the "white hats" within Chinese authority. then we will have our real disclosure project
that's what I'm focusing, I hope I'll have the first break before June this year.

WOW, how nice it would be if we have our real disclosure project.
And take care ,Cayman ,you're a brave and brilliant man .
Today is Lantern Festival ,blessings to you .Happy all year round.

[cayman]

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Today is Lantern Festival ,blessings to you .Happy all year round.

Everyone, 元宵节快乐！

[The One]

http://www.bobhenneman.info/china.htm

[loc333]

i know this will sound stupid but here it goes.....if the dollar is like a posion to china that they cant spend or it will hurt there economy....forgive half the debt make the dollar stronger....win win or am i being a stupid stupid

[cayman]

i know this will sound stupid but here it goes.....if the dollar is like a posion to china that they cant spend or it will hurt there economy....forgive half the debt make the dollar stronger....win win or am i being a stupid stupid

will USA sell half of its resource to China? in that case, half the debt could be forgiven----win win,right?
quick pro quo, works everywhere. "win win" just a fancy word

[write4change]

In many ways that is what we fear. I am for givning you half of our world bases. TPTB will want to give you our national parks and parking meters. LOL

Hopefully, people like us with join in mediating the nonsense.

[Peace of Mind]

Keep doing your part, Cayman.

Words can not express the great respect I have for people like you. Never ever get discourage for doing what’s right. We need more brave souls like you in this world. I honestly feel like the Human race needs a slap in the face to wake up…or in the least get angry enough to defend themselves from the attacks. In my experiences, those that stood up to bullies/injustices have always obtained a level of peace. Those that allow it to continue have always been the complainers, finger pointers, the frightened waiting for superman to come save the day. If they only knew they are the superheroes...

It saddens me to see how much fear is in the world, its turning people into worthless zombies. They are too scared to think for themselves, protect themselves, and advance themselves because they are half way scared to death.

I guess some are just accustomed to living on their knees. What good is living in this life if you don’t live it to the fullest? We all are going to leave this place one day, but in the mean time we need to make this experience the best it can be…not the worse it can be.

When you cheat yourself, you don’t deserve help from anyone or thing. I can’t think of anyone that respects a coward.
Things are not going to get any better until people realize they are the only ones that can save them…from the HANDFUL of oppressors. Its just simple math. There’s strength in unity, if you stay divided, you stay a slave hiding in the mist patiently waiting for your own demise…then, possibly coming back to repeat what you didn’t finish the last time. Talk about get thrown for a loop…

I don’t want to come back here unless the people start acting like they care. Maybe this is why Babies cry after exiting the womb; they realize where they are just before their memory is erased. I actually feel sorry for the new born. (that’s just my own thoughts….)

Good luck Cayman, even though you really don't need it. Just be mindful of your thoughts, no fear.

Peace

[cayman]

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I guess some are just accustomed to living on their knees. What good is living in this life if you don’t live it to the fullest? We all are going to leave this place one day, but in the mean time we need to make this experience the best it can be…not the worse it can be.
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Good luck Cayman, even though you really don't need it. Just be mindful of your thoughts, no fear.

Peace

What a great mind! you are a great soul! I salute you.
Thank you for your heart, Peace of Mind, I will keep that in mind
make this experience the best it can be

[Peace of Mind]

.......
I guess some are just accustomed to living on their knees. What good is living in this life if you don’t live it to the fullest? We all are going to leave this place one day, but in the mean time we need to make this experience the best it can be…not the worse it can be.
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Good luck Cayman, even though you really don't need it. Just be mindful of your thoughts, no fear.

Peace

What a great mind! you are a great soul! I salute you.
Thank you for your heart, Peace of Mind, I will keep that in mind
make this experience the best it can be

I salute you...
I can't thank you enough for what you are doing...

Peace

[alrik35]

Doesn't sound very positive....but same here !
These CONTROLLERS are working together worldwide...im sure of it.
They want to introduce the NWO and problaby everyone who's willing to join gets a better life.....uhum..NOT

[jackovesk]

Cayman, do you have any futher info you can share with us on the AFP story below?

AFP
Feb 20, 2011

BEIJING — Postings circulating on the Internet have called on disgruntled Chinese to gather on Sunday in public places in 13 major cities to mark the “Jasmine Revolution” spreading through the Middle East.

The calls have apparently led the Chinese government to censor postings containing the word “jasmine” in an attempt to quell any potential unrest.

“We welcome… laid off workers and victims of forced evictions to participate in demonstrations, shout slogans and seek freedom, democracy and political reform to end ‘one party rule’,” one posting said.

The postings, many of which appeared to have originated on overseas websites run by exiled Chinese political activists, called for protests in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and 10 other major Chinese cities.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/february2011/200211feature.jpg

China web users call for 'Jasmine Revolution'

(AFP) – 23 hours ago

BEIJING — Postings circulating on the Internet have called on disgruntled Chinese to gather on Sunday in public places in 13 major cities to mark the "Jasmine Revolution" spreading through the Middle East.

The calls have apparently led the Chinese government to censor postings containing the word "jasmine" in an attempt to quell any potential unrest.

"We welcome... laid off workers and victims of forced evictions to participate in demonstrations, shout slogans and seek freedom, democracy and political reform to end 'one party rule'," one posting said.

The postings, many of which appeared to have originated on overseas websites run by exiled Chinese political activists, called for protests in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and 10 other major Chinese cities.

Protesters were urged to shout slogans including "we want food to eat," "we want work," we want housing," "we want justice," "long live freedom," and "long live democracy."

Chinese authorities have sought to restrict media reports on the recent political turmoil that began in Tunisia as the "Jasmine Revolution" and spread to Egypt and throughout the Middle East.

Unemployment and rising prices have been key factors linked to the unrest that has also spread to Bahrain, Yemen, Algeria and Libya.

Searches Sunday for "jasmine" on China's Twitter-like micro-blog Weibo ended without results, while messages on the popular Baidu search engine said that due to laws and regulations such results were unavailable.

Some Chinese Internet search pages listed "jasmine" postings but links to them were blocked.

The Chinese government has expended tremendous resources to police the Internet and block anti-government postings and other politically sensitive material with a system known as the "Great Firewall of China."

In a speech given Saturday, Chinese President Hu Jintao acknowledged growing social unrest and urged the ruling Communist Party to better safeguard stability while also ordering strengthened controls over "virtual society" or the Internet.

"It is necessary to strengthen and improve a mechanism for safeguarding the rights and interests of the people," Xinhua news agency quoted Hu as saying.

A key to achieve the goal is to "solve prominent problems which might harm the harmony and stability of the society... safeguard people's rights and interests, promote social justice, and sustain sound social order."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gdb6d9fdbjbk3XXfkCIHj4X-OSLg?docId=CNG.7a0509e93accafbdfd4785aad6cc3018.441

[mrkumamon]

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[cayman]

Cayman, do you have any futher info you can share with us on the AFP story below?

AFP
Feb 20, 2011

BEIJING — Postings circulating on the Internet have called on disgruntled Chinese to gather on Sunday in public places in 13 major cities to mark the “Jasmine Revolution” spreading through the Middle East.
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Thanks for the input, jackovesk, I didn't know that until I saw your post yesterday---that's some really serious event. so I spent one day to check. the AFP story is basically true.

further more: I managed to have a look at the Official MEMO regard this event from someone inside. two point:
1) "some group oversea" instigate this event, but the MEMO didn't tell who or what. my best guess is the insider isn't high enough to know a deeper story,and, "OVERSEA" is a "need to know basic" for now.

2) CCP high level officers KNEW before it even happen---now I can say for sure, they do monitor everything. but why they let it happen? my assumption is: it is some kind of "shock testing" for CCP, they want to know for sure who will actually show up, when somebody do show up, the CCP can nail the "right one" they want, with proper excuse. they can nip it from the bud; on another hand, the high level officers want to know how will the low level force react, then they will learn which part is "short". they can enhance further.

to sum up, the CCP comprehend the situation very well, and they have every confidence maintain control--ego,huh?

my personal investigation confirm that this event did happen in Beijing, GuangZhou, Wuhan. further than that, whether it is true that this event occur in 13 cities simultaneously? I don't know. nevertheless, it is a sign, it is a start.

it is a "shock testing" for both sides.

I personally think the timing is still immature, not yet. but it is a sign that China is steering to a deeper water


BTW: there is absolutely nothing about this event being reported on interior news----you see what I mean the "EGO"

[hao]

Doesn't sound very positive....but same here !
These CONTROLLERS are working together worldwide...im sure of it.
They want to introduce the NWO and problaby everyone who's willing to join gets a better life.....uhum..NOT

As an ex-military person and an expert on military affairs and geo-political issues, Song Xiaojun's (his blog is very popular) comments reflect certain concerns of the Chinese military.

He once co-authored a book called "China's Not Happy" with a renowned "nationalist" writer Wang xiaodong. When it comes to the question of China's future global role, basically, Wang envisioned a world in which China would have to beat the "boxing champion"(USA) first, then China will smash the "boxing arena"(the global orders and rules imposed by the USA and its western allies) in order to become the global decision maker.

The CCP official mouth piece Xinhua however reported the book with a "condemning" tone, but its only more condemning in its English version (which is rather intended for Western audiences) than from its Chinese version. For many years, China has continuously expressed that it wants to see a "multilateral world". Their attitude towards Wang's book and the way they handled it was certainly interesting to ponder.

Over the years within the last decade, there were already warnings from various Chinese intellectuals about the danger of certain parts of the Chinese national apparatus been "serving" foreign interests.

There were articles written by active PLA officers in which they expressed concerns over foreign sabotages threatening China's economic security, "the Chinese military has the capability to safeguard China's national security, but it can not claim the same when it comes to the economic security", implying "holes" in the government that need to be fixed.

The submarine missile shots offshore Los Angeles last November clearly demonstrated that the Chinese military is not on the same boat with the NWO, which happened just when the USA send three aircraft carrier groups to the East China Sea, an unprecedented act by the US military during peace times.

The same people who believed Saddam had WMD would also buy into the notion that somehow North Korea poses immediate threat to the "world", not to mention the mysteries surrounding the Cheonan sinking incident which was the spark for the raising tensions in the region. The real problem is the "military imbalance" across the 38th parallel, not otherwise. So the aircraft carriers were clearly for China.

Hu jin tao gave George.W.Bush a copy of Sun Tzu’s Art of War in 2006 when he visited there. To me, it looks more like a "letter of challenge" than an "agreement to work together". David Wilcock has a better way to put this; there is a huge gap between a hyper-sensitive and over-protective government and a plan to kill billions of people. (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1219578/pg1 according to this thread, China is working together with aliens, possibly to eradicate everyone except Asians, which DW deemed as disinformation against China, who really has that kind of plan, according to DW's trusted friend Benjamin Fulford is the NWO)

Whether DW and Benjamin are right about China or not, it’s clear to me China is not working with the NWO. It would be insane for China to embrace the ones who threatened the Chinese with their lab created SARS. Will anyone trust a man who wants to kill you?

Westerners often judge China with a simple mind, partly due to the constant "anti-China" barrages by the MSM (who control the MSM in the West?), and partly due to the totalitarian nature of the Chinese government. The irony and truth behind this is, ""Propaganda," says Noam Chomsky, "is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state"--in other words, the means by which leaders keep the masses in line."

It’s understandable that anyone who’s sick of the NWO would want to see another "oppressed" people free from another group of control freaks who possibly have some dealing with the NWO, right? But one forgets to ask oneself the question why then the NWO has continuously fed people with such feelings by their constant "China bashing"? Many of which are outright lies,
William Engdahl's "Darfur? It’s the Oil, Stupid…"
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/
Michel Chossudovsky's "China and America: The Tibet Human Rights PsyOp"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8673
"Western Media Fabrications regarding the Tibet Riots"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8697
Dr. Michael Parenti's "Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth" http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7355

Does it not contradict with the very idea of them working together? So the Tibet unrest in 2008, and Xinjiang unrest in 2009, is it the way of CIA working with Chinese government to establish NWO worldwide? It certainly does not look like it that way.

If one can view the Chinese government without absolute, like what the guy said from "you must listen to this call" (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/02/01/you-must-listen-to-this-call/ or http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2011/02/top-level-intel-must-hear.html), "there is no absolute communism, and there is no absolute democracy".

Then I want to say there are different factions within the CCP, at least, the former president and the current president don’t always agree with each other. Like how Hu dealt with the corrupt former Shanghai mayor Chen liangyu, the incident reflects internal power struggles between the so called "shanghai group" and "Hu's camp".

It’s pertinent to add, that some members of this "shanghai group" still hold important positions in the current government, but nonetheless are known for connection to some of the biggest corruption cases ever occurred since the founding of the PRC.
The family member of a high ranking official i met belong to the "shanghai group", they have strong dislike towards another high ranking official who once suggested that all CCP officials should have their properties registered. But according to them, the man who made such suggestion is more corrupt than anyone else.

It doesn’t matter who’s more corrupt, its clear to me its a sign of rampant corruption within the CCP, that some of the biggest corruption cases occurred during the reign of "shanghai group" will need some conclusion in the future.

When there is corruption, and greed for money, it makes sense certain parts of the Chinese government would "fell prey" to the NWO. Which is precisely why there have been warnings from both civilian and military intellectuals all these years. Another sign of this would be the biggest corruption case since founding of the PRC that is still unsolved, am talking about the Lai's case, who’s seeking refuge in Canada for all these years, and Canada happens to be a close friend of the USA, the CIA would surely exploit such to their own advantage because it involves very high ranking officials from the "shanghai group".

However, the Art of War raises a question, if it was not the shadow force (look who’s behind Hu on Tiananmen during the 60th anniversary parade? and what was the expression on Mr.Hu's face?) and not Hu's own camp (which the "confidence" rather seem "new found"), then who’s pulling the strings behind the scenes?

David Wilcock says there are different factions in China, the one countering the illuminati is not necessarily the one from the CCP, Benjamin Fulford talks about the Chinese secret society, the informer from "you must listen to this call" talks about "the Chinese elders".

What’s likely to me is that the Art of War given to G.W.Bush was a "letter of challenge", that this new found confidence is not from the "shanghai group" since some of them were "compromised" by foreign influence, Benjamin Fulford's recent blog entry mentioned something about "compromised" Chinese officials as well, which gives the impression that this "compromise" is quite extensive. If the Chinese government is under certain influence from the NWO and at the same time declares to challenge it, then it’s logical to assume there maybe a third party involved.

Another factor would be the ETs, both David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford as well as the Nexus magazine editor Duncan, report that the Chinese are collaborating with alien visitors. Though they tend to differ in regard to this information, with DW believe it is "positive", Duncan believe it is "negative", while Benjamin don’t believe the information.

To understand the future one might need to look back into history, the China-Alien connection may sounds like fantasy, but my re-examination of Chinese history revealed a possible China-Alien connection in the past. I would like to share my research in the next post.

Personally, i think the ET factor is very essential when it comes to the big picture.

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Hangzhou's Xiaoshan airport was shut down for more than an hour last year, due to a trespassing UFO. Just 3 days ago all flights were suspended due to runway crack, which was caused by prolonged low temperature, according to an "official" explanation. May be so, but i just wondered whether its coincidence or not that it is the same airport which was shut down by an UFO last year?
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/7294326.html

Hangzhou is within the area where ancient Liangzhu culture located, i just discovered last year that the cultures of ancient China have some cultural connection to both ancient Mesoamerican and pre-Incan cultures, based on certain relics, i suspect there was a common "god"(or a group of gods) influencing the ancient cultures of China and the Americas.

If 2012 is the date when these ancient American "gods" will "return", (because i suspect they never really left), then i cant stop to wonder whether they have facilities in the vicinity of the ancient cultures that they influenced?

Like in the city of Hangzhou? One of the most famous poet of the Song dynasty, Su Shi(1037-1101AD) once reported an incident in one of his poems, when he was sailing over the West lake (one of Hangzhou's most famous attraction) one night, a luminant object suddenly came out of the lake and lightened the nearby hill as it flew across.

The luminant object in the 11th century was definitely not "man-made" or "Chinese lantern", i just have to wonder whether it was a "temporary parking" or there is something "permanent" there.

Example of certain cultural connection between ancient China and ancient Americas:

I came across “The Hidden History of the Human Race" by accident

Among the many interesting things the program showed, I can't stop noticing the similarities between certain ancient Ecuadorian artifacts and that of the Qijia culture from China

The Ecuadorian figurines have distinct large round eyes and a distinct mouth
http://i55.tinypic.com/2j4znlh.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/bdp9bd.jpg

This one, besides the distinct large round eyed figures, the shape of this artifact, a round object with a round hole in the centre very much resembles the ancient Chinese jade bi object, which was used for the worship of the heaven since ancient Chinese believed in a "round" heaven.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2lo0unp.jpg
An ancient Chinese Jade bi
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ic9tsi.jpg

The figurines from the Qijia culture bear uncanny similarities to the ancient Ecuadorian figures shown above
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ememb9.jpg

A pair of figures from Qijia culture is very reminiscent of the figures on the round object from Ecuador, even the alike posture.
Chinese one
http://i52.tinypic.com/2cmww0y.jpg
Ecuadorian one
http://i52.tinypic.com/2lo0unp.jpg

Ancient alien connection and huge alien crafts visiting ancient China:

Olivia Dunham finally gets to meet William Bell in parallel universe, in the TV series Fringe.
http://i53.tinypic.com/14tafdh.jpg

A Jade bi is placed just outside Bell's office, an ancient Chinese ritual object for worship of the heaven, the round shape is a manifestation of the ancient belief of a "round" heaven, and the hole in the centre represents communication or connection with the heaven

A Chinese jade Bi, with depiction of three "immortals", exact date and origin is unknown, but the archaic style appears to be "Neolithic"
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ic9tsi.jpg

The Temple of Heaven in Beijing was built by the Ming dynasty in the early 15th century, just like the jade bi, those round platforms represent the Heaven, the main Hall in the centre was constructed to "honor heaven and worship god".
http://i54.tinypic.com/2z7lst3.jpg

The coiled body of the serpent/dragon is also the manifestation of this "round" heaven belief.
The C shaped dragon, the typical of Hongshan culture is accompanied by an “immortal”.
http://i51.tinypic.com/2prhj0n.jpg
Twin “half man and half serpent” figures from the “spring-autumn” period
http://i56.tinypic.com/313tbmx.jpg
Dragon from Lingjiatan culture
http://i54.tinypic.com/etscuc.jpg

Why ancient people envisioned something aeriform as the Heaven to be “round”? Few years ago, a Chinese author asked this question when he wrote a book titled "The Aliens are on the Moon". The book cited a petroglyph discovered on the rocks of Yin Mountains
http://i56.tinypic.com/10gjxo8.jpg

The scholars interpret the round object above the man as the sun, thus dubbed it “sun worship petroglyph”. But the author says ancient depictions of the sun usually have sun rays whereas the “sun” in the petroglyph from Yin Mountains is just a round object.
“Sun worship” from Chengbeixi culture
http://i54.tinypic.com/wpgzr.jpg

He says the petroglyph is a depiction of worship for Heaven instead of the sun. Ancient oracle bone inscription for heaven was written like “a man with an oversized head/a round object above man” or “horizontal stroke(s) above man”
http://i55.tinypic.com/wrn815.jpg

According to the author, horizontal stroke(s) represent land; the only land that’s above man and visibly round is the moon. According to him, this explanation would make sense to many ancient legends about a heaven which seem to have “physical attributes”.
Whether he is right or wrong, I stumbled upon certain ancient relics
http://i53.tinypic.com/9a39qu.jpg
The ancient pendant is carved to the shape of round, a clear sign of the “round” heaven belief, above the two “immortals” there is a round object, whatever the round object represents I too don’t think it represents the sun, if the “immortals” were interpreted as actual images of ancient visiting ETs rather than the works of imagination (which orthodox Chinese scholars say), then it’s possible the round object is the actual vessel or place where they came from. If combine Apollo 20 discovery and the hollow moon theory which indicate the moon is actually a giant extraterrestrial structure, then it indeed lend weights to the interpretation of the round object in this relic as the moon.

It’s pertinent to add that there are ancient Chinese legends speaking of “celestial rafts”, their size varies, the largest type were called “the boat hanging among the stars” or “the boat going to the moon”, the name seem to indicate they are spaceships bounded for the moon. Around 2300 BC, the huge ship would float around China every 12 years during the reign of Yao, the record say they always stop somewhere directly above waters, this attribute of it seem to suggest the Aliens have underwater facilities in both inland seas as well as oceans.

In his book "DEAD MEN'S SECRETS", author Jonathan Gray mentioned the following in chapter 27 under the title "To the moon and beyond? WERE WE ON THE MOON IN
2309 B.C.?"

“A story from this same period states that an enormous ship appeared on the sea at night with brilliant lights which were extinguished during the day. It could also sail to the moon and the stars, hence its name, ‘the ship hanging among the stars’ or ‘the boat to the moon’”

This piece of information is found in the Shi yi ji (record of gleanings). In the book, ‘the ship hanging among the stars’ is called gua xing cha (literally gua=hanging; xing=stars; cha=raft), ‘the boat to the moon’ is called guan yue cha (guan=to be linked together; yue=moon).

Here is the translation of the original passage:
“Thirty years after Yao became the sovereign, there was an enormous raft floating over the western sea, the raft has lights that shine at night which were extinguished during the day, people nearby saw the lights, waning and waxing, like stars and moon are appearing and disappearing, the raft would float routinely over the four seas, twelve years a cycle, cycle after cycle, the name for it is guan yue cha or gua xing cha, the feathered men live aboard it, the celestials gargle their nectar, the light of the sun and the moon becomes dim. There were no more recount of its appearance since the era of Yu and Xia dynasty, those who travel to the seas can still hear the incredible of it”

This is one of the surviving accounts of the mysterious “celestial rafts” mentioned in ancient Chinese texts. Such tales are often simply regarded as the works of imagination (novelist’s inventions) by orthodox scholars. However the author of Shi Yi Ji, Wang Jia (?-390AD) according to history records was a Taoist scholar who lived a secluded life on mountains, he is good at making prophetic remarks, because of such skill, he was sought after by various invading nomadic rulers and enjoyed fame among nobilities despite the fact he was forced to serve the ruling court after his previous refusals. Wang Jia was not a “novelist”; “short-novel” as orthodox scholars would call them doesn’t fit well with some tales found in the Shi Yi Ji, since things like the description of a Volcano and its eruption doesn’t seem to be the work of imagination at all. Granted, most of the tales and objects mentioned in the Shi Yi Ji seem strange indeed.

According to Shi Yi Ji, this ship appeared at the “Western sea”, the ancient name for Qinghai Lake in today’s Qinghai province, during the legendary ruler Yao’s reign, presumably around 2300 BC. The description “like stars and moon are appearing and disappearing” is both describing different effect of the lights as well as the size of the ship, which gives the observer the impression that there was a chunk of sky over the lake, thus the definition “enormous”. It seems such observation is made some distance away from the ship.

The wreck of that gigantic spaceship discovered by Apollo mission on the moon rather fits the profile of the enormous raft recorded in the Shi Yi Ji.
http://i53.tinypic.com/2v61s.gif

The term “four seas” in ancient texts may describe China itself or the boundaries of China as defined by certain waters to the four directions, therefore “Western sea” would be the westernmost definition of the “four seas”. This enormous ship would appear periodically around China, and according to the name given to it, it was a space ship bounded for the moon.

Then Shi Yi Ji goes on describing the scenes onboard, the ship is where winged celestials (feathered men) live who drink nectar instead of eating grains so they are immortal. Why would the “light of the sun and moon becomes dim”? Since the name suggesting it to be a spaceship, it’s easier to apprehend the fact the view of the sun and moon would be different from the view of them on the ground, this must have left impression for the observer whoever passed down this tale, that he must be a mortal whom for whatever reasons was allowed to board the ship for immortals.

Other records of “celestial raft” show there were some going on between man and ETs during other times.

Authored by a Western Jin dynasty writer and official Zhang Hua(232-300 AD) ,the "Bo wu zhi"(record of natural science) recount the story of the Xian Cha (celestial raft): "It is said, once upon a time the Milky Way and the sea were connected, in recent time there were people live at the seashore, every year in the August the floating raft would arrive and leave on time, there was a man with high aspiration, tall pavilions are set up on the raft, with abundant supplies, the man boarded the raft and left. For more than 10 days, stars, the moon, the sun passed by as he observed them, afterwards, the vastness made him indistinguishable of the nights and days. Another 10 days of travel, he suddenly arrived at a place where he saw many buildings which look like a city, from distance he saw weaving women in the palace, he saw a man with an Ox drinking at the waterside. Surprised, the Cowherd asked him "how did you get here?” he explained himself and asked the cowherd "what is this place?” the cowherd replied "return to visit Yan jun ping in the prefecture of Shu for answer", therefore he returned without landing. Thereafter a visit was paid to jun ping in the prefecture of Shu (today's Sichuan province of China), he told him that "there was a guest star violating the constellation Qianniu", and that's when the man paid the visit to the Milky Way"

The Song dynasty work "Tai ping guang ji"(Extensive Records of the Taiping Era) is a collection of things stretching a period from the Han dynasty(206 BC- 220 AD) to the Song dynasty(960-1279 AD), citing "Dong tian ji" it says "The Yan Zun(the same person as Yan jun ping in "Bo wu zhi") 'Xian Cha' was placed in the Linde palace of the Tang dynasty (618-907 AD), it is a metal object with the length of more than fifty chi (the measure of chi is different for different dynasties, it is 1chi=27.65cm during the Qin-Han period; 1chi=31.1cm during the Tang dynasty; 1chi=30.72cm during the Song dynasty, thus making the 'Xian Cha of Yan Zun' at least 15 meters long), its hard and it does not corrode. Li deyu (787-850 AD, Tang prime minister) cut thin branch of more than 1 chi, carved an image which often flies away and returns, it disappeared since the era of Guangming (reign of emperor Xizong of Tang dynasty), the raft then flew away as well."
Interestingly, like Wang Jia, Yan Jun Ping was also a Taoist scholar.

Maybe that’s why the female alien body recovered by Apollo mission resembles “Asiatic/Mongoloid”?
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ldahci.jpg

The Apollo 20 is still debated, but here is a twist to its validity

The official website of Chinese lunar exploration program (CLEP) recently (08/12/09) cited an article discussing the possibility of the secret mission conducted by America's Apollo 20 lunar mission, titled "Did the Apollo 20 find the wreckage of a gigantic spaceship on the Moon?"

http://210.82.31.82/index.asp?modelname=gjsye000_nr&FractionNo=&titleno=gjsye000&recno=1644

Cited images by the article,
http://i56.tinypic.com/29copd5.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/11wg2uc.jpg

It’s interesting that the Chinese government branch for lunar mission is actually interested in some conspiracy story.

What this demonstrates i believe is that the Chinese know that something "artificial" exist on the moon after their first lunar orbiter Chang'e 1 finished surveying the moon.

This is the only logical explanation for the puzzle why should a genuine government branch like the CLEP be bothered to have this "conspiracy crap" on their website at all?

But this is not the only interesting "anomalies" i notice from the Chinese.

Shortly after the 60th anniversary of the founding of PRC, the PLAAF celebrated its own 60th anniversary on 6th November during which the commander of the PLAAF Xu Qiliang made a speech to audiences including foreign military guests in which the following speech is particularly interesting to me

"The story of Chang'e is well-known to the Chinese, for hundreds of years the Chinese have celebrated the Moon Festival during which they wish for peace and prosperity. I think if Armstrong knew this story, he would possibly pay a visit to the Moon palace"

Maybe the general is just acting lunatic in assuming the possibility of the existence of such "moon palace" of which supposedly exists only in traditional myth. But how can a real astronaut visit some fictional "moon palace"?

As far as im concerned the CLEP is acting exactly the same when their website takes some "spaceship wreckage on the moon conspiracy crap" to the front page.

Unless, they do believe that something "artificial" can be found on the moon. And the "anomalies" only popped up after their Chang'e 1 orbiter completed its mission.

[cayman]

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Maybe the general is just acting lunatic in assuming the possibility of the existence of such "moon palace" of which supposedly exists only in traditional myth. But how can a real astronaut visit some fictional "moon palace"?

As far as im concerned the CLEP is acting exactly the same when their website takes some "spaceship wreckage on the moon conspiracy crap" to the front page.

Unless, they do believe that something "artificial" can be found on the moon. And the "anomalies" only popped up after their Chang'e 1 orbiter completed its mission.

very extensive and intriguing research! this is definitely the rabbit hole I would like to jump into

Are you in China now? because I can't access any of the pictures links in your post from Beijing.

[hao]

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Maybe the general is just acting lunatic in assuming the possibility of the existence of such "moon palace" of which supposedly exists only in traditional myth. But how can a real astronaut visit some fictional "moon palace"?

As far as im concerned the CLEP is acting exactly the same when their website takes some "spaceship wreckage on the moon conspiracy crap" to the front page.

Unless, they do believe that something "artificial" can be found on the moon. And the "anomalies" only popped up after their Chang'e 1 orbiter completed its mission.

very extensive and intriguing research! this is definitely the rabbit hole I would like to jump into

Are you in China now? because I can't access any of the pictures links in your post from Beijing.

Hi cayman, you can use www.vtunnel.com to access the pictures

[yuhui]

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Maybe the general is just acting lunatic in assuming the possibility of the existence of such "moon palace" of which supposedly exists only in traditional myth. But how can a real astronaut visit some fictional "moon palace"?

As far as im concerned the CLEP is acting exactly the same when their website takes some "spaceship wreckage on the moon conspiracy crap" to the front page.

Unless, they do believe that something "artificial" can be found on the moon. And the "anomalies" only popped up after their Chang'e 1 orbiter completed its mission.

very extensive and intriguing research! this is definitely the rabbit hole I would like to jump into

Are you in China now? because I can't access any of the pictures links in your post from Beijing.

I am in China now and I can access to all of the links including the pictures.

[The One]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/03/china-claims-new-nuclear-technology

[cayman]

I am in China now and I can access to all of the links including the pictures.

ladies and gentlemen, that is a vivid example for how the "Great Internet Firewall" works :cool:

I still can't access those pictures links after I try several computers in many different places in Beijing. :eek:

[hao]

I am in China now and I can access to all of the links including the pictures.

ladies and gentlemen, that is a vivid example for how the "Great Internet Firewall" works :cool:

I still can't access those pictures links after I try several computers in many different places in Beijing. :eek:




I am in China now and I can access to all of the links including the pictures.

ladies and gentlemen, that is a vivid example for how the "Great Internet Firewall" works :cool:

I still can't access those pictures links after I try several computers in many different places in Beijing. :eek:

The way of the Tao is about the balance, even the "Great Internet Firewall" deserves another look at without absolute, either the way. For you find Yin in Yang yet Yang in Yin, such is the way of the Tao.

There is a reason to why a Taoist scholar keeps those secrets, because they understand what a balance is. When the Great sage Confucius met with the Taoist master Laozi, even the virtuous and knowledgeable Confucius revered him as master. Laozi was in charge of the Royal library, much of his wisdom come from the ancients, from where a great school of thought was born. However, the presence of Taoist philosophy can be traced back to the distant past, before the existence of known organized Taoism, to an age when history and legend will inevitably collide.

Those pictures are but only small part of my collection, as there are many more intriguing things can be talked about.

One will have access to all of them if one find the balance of the Tao, either the way, in the end its still the way of the Tao.

Then one may find out that it takes more than mere online research to realize why the author of Shi Yi Ji was "good at making prophetic remarks".

Its good that Yin and Yang finds common ground, for they are not the same yet they are the same.

Zhuangzi dreamed he was a butterfly, he asks himself if he was Zhuangzi who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was Zhuangzi? The wise one see a wisdom while the unwise one see otherwise, but such is the way of the Tao, then no one is wise or unwise.

For the "great spirit" of the Hopi will return, the Amazon shamans wont be called "savages" again, and the most corrupt one will see a consequence.

[cayman]

The way of the Tao is about the balance, even the "Great Internet Firewall" deserves another look at without absolute, either the way. For you find Yin in Yang yet Yang in Yin, such is the way of the Tao.
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I am curious how you are able to connect to the internet, and if you are being monitored.

I don't konw if I'm being monitored now. But I'm sure sooner or later they will notice or focus.
If I don't speak or do anything when I have a chance, or draw back in the middle because of fear, that is to say: they win it all and cost nothing!---Nah! it never be an option.
But I'm not impulsive or naive, I know they have all the tools and toys can easily pinch anyone they want. So I'm doing everything I can to avoid that. It is a good game! Enjoy it.
A quote from Wingmakers materials---"The dark side of predation,... sparks resourcefulness and innovation in its intended prey." It's too soon to tell who is the prey for now

The dark side of predation sparks resourcefulness and innovation in its intended prey

also, my avatar.

I'm enjoying it！

[hao]

The way of the Tao is about the balance, even the "Great Internet Firewall" deserves another look at without absolute, either the way. For you find Yin in Yang yet Yang in Yin, such is the way of the Tao.
。。。。。。




I am curious how you are able to connect to the internet, and if you are being monitored.

I don't konw if I'm being monitored now. But I'm sure sooner or later they will notice or focus.
If I don't speak or do anything when I have a chance, or draw back in the middle because of fear, that is to say: they win it all and cost nothing!---Nah! it never be an option.
But I'm not impulsive or naive, I know they have all the tools and toys can easily pinch anyone they want. So I'm doing everything I can to avoid that. It is a good game! Enjoy it.
A quote from Wingmakers materials---"The dark side of predation,... sparks resourcefulness and innovation in its intended prey." It's too soon to tell who is the prey for now

The dark side of predation sparks resourcefulness and innovation in its intended prey

also, my avatar.

I'm enjoying it！

Cayman

Perhaps "vague" languages don’t work for you; perhaps you would wonder why i would bother to do it.

Let me share a bit on my experience of different kind of "awakening" which is happening around me.

The night before last i read thoroughly the transcript of "Anglo-Saxon mission", i also watched the video which is presented by Bill Ryan which has additional information.

Many thoughts were generated, many pieces were put together, i didn’t sleep that night.

Then something interesting happened the very morning, a call came in, my phone reported the number of the incoming call as 01901212, when i heard the number, intuitively i thought this odd number shouldn’t exist. Then my mother picked the phone up but there was no sound in the phone.
I pondered over the numbers, the combination of "12" caught my attention, and there are two of them. I wondered whether it has something to do with "2012". Following this logic i tried to see what possible message the rest of the numbers are conveying.

It took me less than half minute to figure out the possible meaning of the rest, i.e. 0190. 0 is pronounced "ling" in Mandarin, which is homophonous to the word meaning "soul", the appearance of two "12" not only stress the importance of the year "2012"; they also correspond with the two "0". The message is there are two souls, and they have something to do with the year 2012 which is very important.
So what about the rest of the numbers, "19"? "1" can be pronounced "yao", which is close to the sound of the word meaning "need", while "9" is pronounced "jiu" which is close to the sound of the word meaning "save".

For me, the message is i need to save two souls with regard to the year 2012, which i recognize them as two family members whom are the most important individuals for me in this world.

The message i believe is sent by "the Heaven", an instruction that strongly resonates with my heart, but it is also a sign for me of what i realize that night is "on the right track".

However unbelievable this conclusion may sound, i was confident that the number 01901212 doesn’t exist before my mother told me that she’s going to make a call to this number, so twice she tried, twice she got the answer "no such telephone number exists"

As i begin to understand gradually that there exist a bond between us and the Heaven, i began to experience interesting things around me. Whether it’s "designed" or not, as result of the call, my mother is listening to what i have to say now which she used to ignore. So the "heaven-sent" duty for me to save the two souls which i cherish most in this world progresses well.

What i want to say to you Cayman, is i believe i stumbled upon this thread for a reason, because the way i see it, it is losing balance, and you have placed yourself on a stage and "enjoy" the attention and claps because of your "resourcefulness", this IMO amounts to place oneself in a silo.

If you think the research i shared was "extensive" and "intriguing", then you haven’t seen anything yet.

So i notice that the "resourcefulness" needed the attention of "ladies and gentlemen", and it needed to say something about something which is rather obvious and less important as compared to the information which can be derived and much extended from the research, the reaction to the pictures is what separates Zhuangzi and the butterfly.

Perhaps this is becoming "vague" again, then let’s try something that is more "vivid".

Have a look at this ancient object first
http://i53.tinypic.com/14mxrv6.jpg

And it’s more ancient and exotic forms
http://i54.tinypic.com/noj4ud.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/2e2i1b6.jpg

Then let history and legend collide
http://i53.tinypic.com/14v60ys.jpg

Let the "resourcefulness" of yours help, let what you “urged” for get what it deserves, the clues are already provided in the research i shared, the response is "heaven's instruction" for me to decide what should be done next.

But before the response, either the way, i just want to say this again, that "to understand the future one might need to look back into history".

I say this much "nonsense", because this is Avalon (i really have respect for Bill Ryan), and because you are my brother. But everyone should seek their own pass to the future. Now let the way of the Tao present itself the way it is designed. Either the way, i want to say thank you for inviting me to the "China" group, the experience in this thread is helpful for me, either the way.

[cayman]

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What i want to say to you Cayman, is i believe i stumbled upon this thread for a reason, because the way i see it, it is losing balance, and you have placed yourself on a stage and "enjoy" the attention and claps because of your "resourcefulness", this IMO amounts to place oneself in a silo.

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Thank you, hao, I appreciate the bluffness and honesty. And you are right about that, if I'm a third person who observe this thread, I will conclude the same thing. To be honest, it is the same feeling when I saw many threads in this forum and to some degree, the forum itself.
It is not the "information" or "resourcefulness" itself true or false is the problem, but the way we communicate with each others, the limitation of the way we communicate with, I.E. language(Babel), derivate the feeling or reactions we see things differently. ----and that is just the first layer of "divide" works.
worse than that, is the addiction from "resourcefulness"(so to speak), EGO get its way in one form or another, and this will trigger many traps hidden inside our Human Mind System, and that will lead us to nowhere end.

but all that means we shouldn't talk or write something we know and play "wise"? No, on the contrary, we talk and write, publicly and truthful, let the sunshine do its work, only in the light, you can distinguish bright and dark, black and white, in the meantime, kill the EGO of the "resourcefulness" informer, lift the veil which blind the eyes of the informers who think they know the "truth", anyone who think he knows everything or the only "truth"----is lunatic, at the very least, delusion.

the one who addict to oneself "resourcefulness" and praise from that, is going on the way of self-destruction.

hao, my brother, in a way, you and I, we crack the veil of this thread together, this thread will unfold the true purpose in self-orchestration.

[cayman]

Cayman

Perhaps "vague" languages don’t work for you; perhaps you would wonder why i would bother to do it.....

I appreciate the way you present your point. personally, I enjoy "vague"(so to speak). my favorite ancient book is Tao Te Ching(道德经), few words speaks a lot(if not All)--微言大义. in a sense, it is not "Vague" but "Macro". Given the language is not so abundant for communication, "vague" is the best way we can present the "truth in mind", after all, we are only human, not yet:alien:for now , godsh, I hope telepathy is available right now:(



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If you think the research i shared was "extensive" and "intriguing", then you haven’t seen anything yet.
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Let the "resourcefulness" of yours help, let what you “urged” for get what it deserves, the clues are already provided in the research i shared, the response is "heaven's instruction" for me to decide what should be done next.

...... i just want to say this again, that "to understand the future one might need to look back into history"......

To be honest, I did see through your post about the ancient connections, I appreciate your sharing very much, meanwhile, I understood the underline of your post---it is a high way, for communication (or Awakening, if you will). for the benefit of little selfishness, I love to see this kind of sharing in this thread, I appreciate your effort in this sharing. I see it as a highlight in this "China" thread, I wish more people will looking into it.
let my ego speak a word: from my BA of World History point of view, it is worthy to look into your research of ancient history connections.

For "vidvid" point of the research between ancient connections between China and America, I have a suggestion: 鄂伦春族(Elunchun people) in northeast China& American Indian---they have astonishing similarities in mythology, custom,tradition...etc. they are both alive and well, apparently, what you need is take a tour and live within them for some weeks, then fact speaks itself, no need for books or internet. (Elunchun's foods and songs are so delicious, I certainly will take a second trip:o )

"to understand the future one might need to look back into history" I can't agree more, nothing today around the world is NEW, in a way, nothing is surprise, it is important for us to regain the ancient knowledge in order to awake and see into the future. whereas, IMHO, it is not the knowledge or even truth itself is vital, it is the experiences in the way we explore the truth of ourselves. And, IMHO, no matter how many lifetimes we spend, how high level we are as a Being, the "truth" we can get is just getting closer and closer to the ultimate TRUTH we have in mind, no matter which way we take---but we have to choose a way for ourselves to explore and experience all that, otherwise, it is such a waste

The way I choose to take as you speak of is to learn and experience as much as I could from where I stand right now in this lifetime.
Is it the right way for me? don't know, don't care;
would it cause any troubles in my life? hope not, but you know, you live, you learn;
would it create karma? certainly, well, it is always there, what can you do?
what would it takes? my whole lifetime. Yet, as they say, time is meaningless.
what about the EGO? after all, I am only human.I'll try my best to keep it away, but if it dangling around, kick it for me, would you? :wave:

just like this


...... everyone should seek their own pass to the future. Now let the way of the Tao present itself the way it is designed......

Have funs! :o

[cayman]

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Let me share a bit on my experience of different kind of "awakening" which is happening around me.

The night before last i read thoroughly the transcript of "Anglo-Saxon mission", i also watched the video which is presented by Bill Ryan which has additional information.

Many thoughts were generated, many pieces were put together, i didn’t sleep that night.

Then something interesting happened the very morning, a call came in, my phone reported the number of the incoming call as 01901212, when i heard the number, intuitively i thought this odd number shouldn’t exist. Then my mother picked the phone up but there was no sound in the phone.
I pondered over the numbers, the combination of "12" caught my attention, and there are two of them. I wondered whether it has something to do with "2012". Following this logic i tried to see what possible message the rest of the numbers are conveying.

It took me less than half minute to figure out the possible meaning of the rest, i.e. 0190. 0 is pronounced "ling" in Mandarin, which is homophonous to the word meaning "soul", the appearance of two "12" not only stress the importance of the year "2012"; they also correspond with the two "0". The message is there are two souls, and they have something to do with the year 2012 which is very important.
So what about the rest of the numbers, "19"? "1" can be pronounced "yao", which is close to the sound of the word meaning "need", while "9" is pronounced "jiu" which is close to the sound of the word meaning "save".

For me, the message is i need to save two souls with regard to the year 2012, which i recognize them as two family members whom are the most important individuals for me in this world.

The message i believe is sent by "the Heaven", an instruction that strongly resonates with my heart, but it is also a sign for me of what i realize that night is "on the right track".

However unbelievable this conclusion may sound, i was confident that the number 01901212 doesn’t exist before my mother told me that she’s going to make a call to this number, so twice she tried, twice she got the answer "no such telephone number exists"

As i begin to understand gradually that there exist a bond between us and the Heaven, i began to experience interesting things around me. Whether it’s "designed" or not, as result of the call, my mother is listening to what i have to say now which she used to ignore. So the "heaven-sent" duty for me to save the two souls which i cherish most in this world progresses well.
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Very much appreciate for this revealing story!
I know how difficult it is for a Chinese fellow to share this kind of story. I'm really grateful.
I only wish I have some personal story like that to share with you, unfortunately---none,nil,,,, not yet.

Just out of curiosity, when you got the phone call, were you in China?

[cayman]

.... Either the way, i want to say thank you for inviting me to the "China" group, the experience in this thread is helpful for me, either the way.

no thanks for me needed. it is not a "group" per se, it's a Avalon "Ground Crew" stuff like that, that's all.
oh, BTW, anyone who like to practice Mandarin, that China group is the place:)

[yuhui]

Let me share a bit on my experience of different kind of "awakening" which is happening around me.

The night before last i read thoroughly the transcript of "Anglo-Saxon mission", i also watched the video which is presented by Bill Ryan which has additional information.

Many thoughts were generated, many pieces were put together, i didn’t sleep that night.

Then something interesting happened the very morning, a call came in, my phone reported the number of the incoming call as 01901212, when i heard the number, intuitively i thought this odd number shouldn’t exist. Then my mother picked the phone up but there was no sound in the phone.
I pondered over the numbers, the combination of "12" caught my attention, and there are two of them. I wondered whether it has something to do with "2012". Following this logic i tried to see what possible message the rest of the numbers are conveying.

It took me less than half minute to figure out the possible meaning of the rest, i.e. 0190. 0 is pronounced "ling" in Mandarin, which is homophonous to the word meaning "soul", the appearance of two "12" not only stress the importance of the year "2012"; they also correspond with the two "0". The message is there are two souls, and they have something to do with the year 2012 which is very important.
So what about the rest of the numbers, "19"? "1" can be pronounced "yao", which is close to the sound of the word meaning "need", while "9" is pronounced "jiu" which is close to the sound of the word meaning "save".

For me, the message is i need to save two souls with regard to the year 2012, which i recognize them as two family members whom are the most important individuals for me in this world.

The message i believe is sent by "the Heaven", an instruction that strongly resonates with my heart, but it is also a sign for me of what i realize that night is "on the right track".

However unbelievable this conclusion may sound, i was confident that the number 01901212 doesn’t exist before my mother told me that she’s going to make a call to this number, so twice she tried, twice she got the answer "no such telephone number exists"

As i begin to understand gradually that there exist a bond between us and the Heaven, i began to experience interesting things around me. Whether it's "designed" or not, as result of the call, my mother is listening to what i have to say now which she used to ignore. So the "heaven-sent" duty for me to save the two souls which i cherish most in this world progresses well.




Thank you for sharing this amazing story.
And isn't it amazing how people are capable of receiving numbers and signs,like 11:11 phenomena.
(http://www.greatdreams.com/eleven/num11.htm)

And it reminds me of Zhuangzi's idea of harmony between the heaven and human(天人合一).
The relation between people and "the Heaven" from Chinese Medicine and taoist books.

【上古】有真人者，提挈天地，把握阴阳，呼吸精气，独立守神，肌肉若一。故能寿敝天地，无有终时，此其道生。

"Real Man" They are the most ancient people and are able to support and guide the world, Yin/Yang and to live without dieing.They are gods from perspectives of contemporary people.
　　

【中古之时】有至人者,淳德全道,和于阴阳,调于四时.去世离俗,积精全神.游行天地之间,视听八达之外.此盖益其寿而强者.亦归于真人.

"Most Man" They are later than "Real people" and are controlled by the world. However, they can still do extraodinary things including flying or hearing everything and to be anywhere they want to be in this earth.
　　
　　
【其次】有圣人者,处天地之和,从八风之理.适嗜欲于世俗之间,无恚嗔之心,行不欲离于世,被服章,举不欲观于俗.外不劳形于事,内无思想之患,以恬愉为务,以自得为功,形体不敝,精神不散,亦可以百 数.
　　
"Wise man" They are wise in intelligence but are no longer have special abilities. They can live long but must have their desire under control.


I believe what you experiencing is unconscious become conscious.And the relation between people and their unconscious is what has been gradually detached, as in the records of ancient medicine books. As the unconscious is a piece of Nature, when we perceived that piece of information from nature, we are following the Dao.





Have a look at this ancient object first
http://i53.tinypic.com/14mxrv6.jpg

And it’s more ancient and exotic forms
http://i54.tinypic.com/noj4ud.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/2e2i1b6.jpg

Then let history and legend collide
http://i53.tinypic.com/14v60ys.jpg

Let the "resourcefulness" of yours help, let what you “urged” for get what it deserves, the clues are already provided in the research i shared, the response is "heaven's instruction" for me to decide what should be done next.

But before the response, either the way, i just want to say this again, that "to understand the future one might need to look back into history".




May I ask the object from the Fourth picture, is it a jade jue(玉玦)?

As I know, it represents two meanings, as jue means "to decide" and "to resolve". Sorry for my poor knowlege in this field, Could explain more specifically about how the objects in these pictures related to "heaven's instruction" or "history", please ?

[cayman]

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And isn't it amazing how people are capable of receiving numbers and signs,like 11:11 phenomena.
(http://www.greatdreams.com/eleven/num11.htm)

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thanks for the link, yuhui. :high5:

From January this year, I saw 11:11 more frequently than ever before, on watch, on clock,,,,etc. I am not sure what that means, I saw some posts and articles explain thing about that, but to me, what is that matters? things just unfold in its own way.

human EGO speak: hope that is a good sign anyway.:p

[cayman]

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... it reminds me of Zhuangzi's idea of harmony between the heaven and human(天人合一).
The relation between people and "the Heaven" from Chinese Medicine and taoist books.

【上古】有真人者，提挈天地，把握阴阳，呼吸精气，独立守神，肌肉若一。故能寿敝天地，无有终时，此其道生。

"Real Man" They are the most ancient people and are able to support and guide the world, Yin/Yang and to live without dieing.They are gods from perspectives of contemporary people.
　　

【中古之时】有至人者,淳德全道,和于阴阳,调于四时.去世离俗,积精全神.游行天地之间,视听八达之外.此盖益其寿而强者.亦归于真人.

"Most Man" They are later than "Real people" and are controlled by the world. However, they can still do extraodinary things including flying or hearing everything and to be anywhere they want to be in this earth.
　　
　　
【其次】有圣人者,处天地之和,从八风之理.适嗜欲于世俗之间,无恚嗔之心,行不欲离于世,被服章,举不欲观于俗.外不劳形于事,内无思想之患,以恬愉为务,以自得为功,形体不敝,精神不散,亦可以百 数.
　　
"Wise man" They are wise in intelligence but are no longer have special abilities. They can live long but must have their desire under control.


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Beautiful quotation, excellent translations!

ancient Chinese(both people and language) is amazing! If we change our preoccupied concepts regard ancients, we shall see nothing but truth in their books.

somehow that remind me of the "Law of one" and "Charles materials".

Nothing is NEW, we just need to rediscover

[hao]

The picture is the fish, the vague language is the fishing, as there are different kinds of fishes; so different ways of fishing there will be.

I thought one example of interesting things that I’m experiencing around me was “revealing” enough for you, but last night another interesting thing just happened, because I feel it’s correlated with not only the interesting phone call we received few days ago but also with this thread. So I will share it here.

I was expecting a reply message from someone after I’ve sent a message to her before 8 PM. It was half way through the TV drama that I was watching; a sound indicated my cell phone has just received a message. So I picked it up, normally it should display the main interface, but it displayed the time 20:22 instead, I tried to switch to the main interface, but all the buttons (except the reboot button) I pressed will not respond, I wondered whether this is another interesting thing happening, so I showed my mother this problem with the cell phone and I let her press the buttons herself so she knows they are not working indeed. Just after I showed it to my mother and started to ponder the numbers for only a few seconds as I looked at the time 20:22 on the screen, the cell phone suddenly rebooted itself, after the reboot I was able to see the main interface but there was no notification of incoming text message as it should be displayed on the top of the main interface if there was one. Then I noticed the remaining power on my cell phone was all gone. So I tried to recharge the cell phone, but it will not recharge, the recharging screen will not display, the cell phone was somehow malfunctioning. I went back to my TV drama thinking the cell phone will probably recharge later.
I wondered about the time 20:22, initially I thought “maybe the year 2022 is also important?” I wondered if 20 were interpreted as “two souls”, there should be the indication of the year 2012 in this message if it’s still about the two souls I need to save; following this logic, I tried to view the colon as two dots with each of them represent the number 1, so it would be like place 1 on top of another 1, if I do the same to the combination 22 so that they will also be placed vertically, then I will get two horizontal “12” as result, this message then was rather consistent with the previous message that I received few days ago, but what about the combination 19 conveying the message “need to save”? Maybe not every component ought to be repeated, so I thought while I enjoyed my TV.
It was past 11 PM and I still haven’t got the message I was expecting, so I decided to send an inquiring message to her. My cell pone was fully recharged by then, and there was no notification of any unread messages on top of the main interface. As I switched to the SMS interface I noticed immediately that there was actually an unread message and it was from the expected person, so subsequently I told myself, “there was a message from her after all, and the cell phone was probably just malfunctioning somehow.” Then I noticed that the message was received at 20:19, so I wondered “if that message was sent by her at 20:19, then why the cell phone displayed the time as 20:22? I wasted no time in picking up the cell phone, there shouldn’t be 3 missing minutes anyway; it doesn’t make any sense”, then I realized suddenly while thinking about the time 20:19, that the missing component of 19 conveying the message “need to save” was repeated after all. Realizing this, it even surprised me a little at “the way the Heaven is playing its trick”.
Also, all of the power was gone after my cell phone received its first text message today despite it was fully charged.
Prior to the receiving of the interesting telephone call few days ago, I was thinking about “The Anglo-Saxon mission”. Likewise, prior to the receiving of the similar message via my cell phone last night I was thinking about a 20 years old Japanese anime called ‘Legend of the dragon kings’. I was wondering why many components in that cartoon are rather correspondent with the reality? What kind of mind was behind the script? Why I received “the Heaven sent” message again after my brain activity was just centered on it?
It was many years ago when I watched the anime, but I’ve forgot even its name because I treated it as any other cartoons. But the night before last when I was pondering over “what should be done next” after I see the response from you, it suddenly came to my mind that there was a Japanese anime seems to contain many of the important messages I wish to convey here. So I spent hours re-watching the anime, and here are some interesting extract for you.

A powerful shadow figure exerts an all-encompassing influence in Japan ever since the WW2, his power comes from the enormous wealth that was pillaged during the invasion of China.
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“If you obey well, I could make you a minister.
“Why, you might even have your own small role in the destiny of our nation.”

The oldest of the four brothers learns the existence of the “four sisters” from the shadow figure
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“Have you heard of the term ‘four sisters’?”
“The four greatest American corporations that control the states, and consequently the rest of the free world.”
“It’s not a figment of my imagination. They have agents all around the world.”
“Since the end of the war, the four sisters have made many attempts…to control Japan’s economy, but every one of those attempts was met with obstacles and failed.”

He also learns that they are the descendants of the dragon kings
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“He was the legendary Dragon king of the Four Seas”
“He killed the king of Yin, and rescued King Wu-wang”
“Legend says there once lived the Dragon Emperor…who cast his four children in the Four Seas to create the dragon kings, the blue dragon of the East Sea, the red dragon of the South Sea, the white dragon of the West Sea and the black dragon of the North Sea.”
“The four Dragon kings transformed themselves into human form and they occupied the land between the Midland and Kunlun, deep in the backwoods of China, and ruled their people.”
“The ancient scroll we found in the Dragon Springs held the following prophecy: in 3000 years, the dragon Kings will rise once again to reclaim their dragon form.”

Nicknamed “Lady L”, one of the agents of the four sisters gives a lecture to a cousin of the dragon brothers.
http://i52.tinypic.com/o5qb60.jpg
“Do you believe Japan is an independent country?”
“The idea that this is an independent country is only an illusion.”
“The Japanese people don’t control Japan”

Lady L lectures the second oldest of the dragon brothers about the four sisters
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“Mulligan, DuPon, Meulon and Rockford”
“They control wars; they create wars, and then escalate them.”
“After selling weapons, they bring wars to an end when appropriate.”
“A group of four multinational conglomerates, those four corporations control every industry in America”
“They control the election and removal of the U.S. president”

One of four sister’s lackey reassures his subordinate about their operations in Japan.
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“Think of Japan as our 51st state, we can handle Japan”

After evoking the brothers to their dragon forms in which they caused unintended damages, the four sisters are been briefed by their lackey
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“Sir, I believe the first phase of the plan is now complete”
“The public is aware now that dragons really exist, and dragons are obviously dangerous”
“They’ll be seen as enemies of mankind.”
His bosses then say
“Will they? There weren’t many injuries. A hundred thousand deaths would make them seem more dangerous.”
They burst out laughing.
http://i51.tinypic.com/6zplr4.jpg

The Japanese media are reporting the existence of the dragon exactly as planned.
“A dragon is among us. This is no monster movie! No, this is the astonishing truth!”
“And the monster seems to exist purely for destruction!”
“It has shown itself to be the enemy of mankind!”

A friend of the brothers who happened to work in the media questions the MSM
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“The media is painting the dragon as a villain, but I think someone is carefully creating that attitude”
“But the story is too one-sided. The news shouldn’t work that way.”
“In Japanese legend, dragons were noble. They were gods.”
“But in the West, dragons were associated with the devil. Westerners started the idea of evil dragons And Westerners are behind this media blitz.”
“Bluntly, I think the Americans are behind this.”

Lady L, despite having Japanese heritage, despise the Japanese
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“The Japanese have gotten fat under their U.S. protection”
“They’ve lost their values in pursuit of material gain. They’ve turned into a nation of materialist pigs! The Japanese are just greedy pigs!”

One of the dragon brothers had a dream in which the dragon brothers were fighting a bull headed mortal enemy in the distant past.
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“The dragon kings have sworn protection over half of Earth”
“Obey the pact, Shiyu, and leave for the West!”
The defeated evil monster Shiyu curses the dragons
“You bastards! I hate all the spawn of the Dragon Emperor!”
“I spit on your pact! I make my own laws!”
The oldest of the dragon kings said
“We may not kill him. That is the law.”

The brothers talk about this dream
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“Shiyu was the worst evil in Chinese mythology.”
“It appears in Chinese mythology, so it may be linked with dragons”
“However, Shiyu is recorded as being an evil god, but his image was used on ancient imperial seals.”
“Not alike at all – the exact opposite.”
“In China, dragons were the allies of justice, but in the West, dragons were evil.”
“Your dream was a battle between opposites. Perhaps it’s an omen”

It was foretold in the celestial court that after 3000 years Shiyu would rise up again in the West, the dragon kings will have to battle him again, if they fail, billions of people will die, which is the future Shiyu seeks. In order to fulfill their destiny, the dragon brothers travel to the U.S.A in their dragon forms where they engage Shiyu in an ultimate battle between “good” and “evil”. Shiyu initiated the launch of nuclear weapons to realize his desired future, but the missiles were stopped by the dragon brothers, so will be the evil Shiyu himself.
The blue dragon of the East returns the U.S. aircraft carrier named “dynasty” to America, symbol of its hegemony.
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“This is the pride of America, the nuclear aircraft carrier Dynasty”
“I now return the greatest weapon that mankind has ever built.”
“Leaders lie whenever it suits their purpose. They claim that life is less important than national pride. They hope to inspire followers to fight their wars for them.”
“They need millions to fight and die on the front lines. For the sake of national pride, the President urges them to war. But leaders will never risk their own lives for justice. Other people make a more convenient sacrifice.”
“Some leaders would sacrifice their entire nation…just to protect that nation’s honor- and their own.”
“What good is a nation that destroys itself and its people?”
“A nation only exists to serve its people. Never forget that.”
“This weapon of war should be preserved as a memorial: A memorial to man’s foolishness. Show it to future generations.”

If it is “the will of the Heaven”, then let the 12 episodes “Legend of the dragon kings” be the start of the fishing trip.
But here is a fish from me:

In the movie "National Treasure: Book of Secrets", Emily Appleton found some characters in the city of gold, she says “This is gonna unlock the Olmec language.It’s gonna give us incredible insight into Pre-Columbian history!”
http://i.imagehost.org/0494/2_16.jpg
The first three characters are Olmec, but the rest are Chinese

So the Mayan gods will return in 2012, and their gods were associated with serpents, so were the ancient gods in China.
So the Mayan gods will return in 2012, which is year of the dragon in Chinese zodiac.

[hao]

You are right, Yuhui, its called Jade Jue,

The fourth picture illustrates the legend of King Mu's journey to the west, where he ultimately met with the goddess Xi Wang Mu (AKA Queen mother of the west). They exchanged gifts, Xi Wang Mu wished him to reunite with the celestial realm, the king promised that he will return one day but he never actually did. The jade jue handed over to King Mu by the goddess Xi Wang Mu here represents the momemt of "resolve" between a king from the mortal world and a goddess of the immortal world.

The "gods" left us the round shaped jade bi to worship the Heaven, why they also left this incomplete "Heaven" for us to remind the moment of "resolve", is why the interviewee from "The anglo-Saxon mission" said "I believe that these people are us and we are them.", is why Buzz Aldrin said in history channel's ancient aliens "We.. aliens are part of a magnificent race", is why i said "there exist a bond between us and the Heaven".

I like the way you describe the unconscious and conscious. I used to have an odd habit for two years when i was a primary school boy, i would sit by the windows in my home after school, for one or two hours i would be gazing at the sky, and there was always this feelings in me in which i feel there is something needed to be think about when i gaze at the sky. I never understood my behavior, but now im beginning to see the reason behind it.

[hao]

I believe what you experiencing is unconscious become conscious.And the relation between people and their unconscious is what has been gradually detached, as in the records of ancient medicine books. As the unconscious is a piece of Nature, when we perceived that piece of information from nature, we are following the Dao.

Brother, you should have treated me as a wacko, or a fraud, for it will save me much time and labor. I will simply move on with the seeking of my own pass to the future.

But it seems the Dao wants me to be engaged in this thread, and it rewards me with your understanding of my involvement, for that, i must reward you too, for the balance of the Dao should be realized as we are getting closer to the "purification day".

Let the remarks about how the "great internet firewall" tells people about the Chinese regime, or the remarks about how our English has improved here, be dwarfed by the ultimate truth.

[hao]

In the 6th episode, “Lady L”, the agent working for the “four sisters” evoked the second oldest brother into his dragon form, and subsequently he caused unintended damages by making the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Office fall.
http://i54.tinypic.com/23s6i3c.jpg

Noticing the collapsing building is also twin towers, a thought flashed across my mind “could this be the correspondent scene to the event of 911?”
Then I dismissed the thought by telling myself “but it happened in the Japanese city of Tokyo …”

I didn’t pay much attention to the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Office
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But re-examination revealed the Japanese twin towers is located in the Shinjuku ward, realizing this fact, something interesting manifests, the part “Shin” is a transliteration of the Kanji character meaning “new”, and the part “juku” sound rather similar to the word “york” the way “Rockford” sound similar to “Rockefeller”.

[hao]

The ‘Records of the Grand Historian’ by famous Han dynasty historian Sima qian is regarded as the “authentic history”. He is regarded as the father of Chinese historiography because of this highly praised work.

However, certain records from this ‘authentic’ work would raise baffling questions. For instance, in “The annals of the Five Emperors”, the annal of emperor Zhuan Xu says “to the north he reached Youling; to the south he reached Jiaozhi; to the west he reached Liusha; to the east he reached Panmu”.

According to the footnotes, Youling is also called Youzhou which encompasses modern day Hebei and Liaoning provinces; Jiaozhi is also called Jiaozhou which encompasses modern day Guangdong and Guangxi provinces of China and parts of Vietnam, while Liusha is located in modern day Gansu province.

But something baffling surfaces when it comes to the location of Panmu. According to the footnote, “In the East Sea, there is a mountain called Dushuo, where a giant peach tree stretches for three thousand Li. ‘The gate of the spirits’ is located to the north-east where all sorts of spirits are gathered. Two deities, one named Shen shu, one named Yu lu, are sent by the Supreme Being to watch over the spirits, and punish the one who harms human”.

As a tradition, the Chinese would decorate each side of the front door with two door gods to ward off evil spirits. It is said they were once two generals (Qin shubao and Yuchi jingde) who served under emperor Taizong of Tang dynasty.

Qin shubao and Yuchi Jingde as ‘door gods’
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But before they were elevated to the rank of ‘gods’, their predecessors were called Shen shu and Yu lu, the two deities mentioned in Shiji (AKA “Records of the Grand Historian”). People would either carve the images of them with piece of peach wood or write their names on piece of peach wood, then they will place them on the front door in order to ward off evil spirits, this tradition dates back at least to the Qin-Han period.

Shen shu and Yu lu as ‘door gods’
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The tradition of decorating front doors with couplets (rhyming poems) during lunar New Year also derives from this belief. The practice was initially created by a poet (I think he’s from ‘five dynasties’ period) who thought “the door gods need something to be accompanied with”; the practice then was standardized under the reign of the first emperor of Ming dynasty.

So basically, Emperor Zhuan Xu went to a place that shouldn’t exist, but it was nonetheless recorded by the most praised history work. This is a perfect example of “when history collides with legend”, in which case raise baffling questions.
But it gets even more baffling after examining the source for which Sima qian was based on when he wrote “The annals of five Emperors”, such as “Wu di de” (The virtues of the five Emperors). It says not only Zhuan Xu traveled to those places; he traveled there by “riding a dragon”.

A memorial stone carving of Emperor Zhuan Xu in the city of Puyang, once the capital of Zhuan Xu
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Obviously, to Confucian educated scholars, “supernatural” such as “dragons” simply doesn’t exist. So when Sima qian wrote “The annals of five Emperors”, the part involving “dragon” was removed which reflects the Confucian value of “disbelief” towards the “supernaturals”; which consist of “guai” (the strange); “Li” (force/power/ability); “Luan” (disorder); “Shen” (preternatural/magical;deity/spirit).

This is actually one of the “shortcomings” of the Shiji, because Sima qian removed many “supernatural” components of the “history” in which ancient cultural heroes with superhuman abilities were reduced to mere “outstanding leaders”. But orthodox scholars will treat such “records” as mere “legends” or at best “unreliable history” or “inventions by later generations”; which is actually another “shortcoming” of Sima qian.

The dilemma for Sima qian is, when he removed dragon from “The annal of Zhuan Xu”, it shows his share of disbelief towards the “supernatural” which is consistent with his contemporary scholars as well as with modern day mainstream scholars; but when he kept the part about Zhuan Xu’s trip to Panmu, as a responsible historian he can not replace Panmu with some other place since such behavior would violate his professional ethics; so even though he himself may not believe in the existence of such place as Panmu just as he may not believe in the existence of dragons, nevertheless he must report this detail because that’s what he inherited from his predecessors. And it's only "contradicting" because there are so much we don't understand about our distant past.

Before the orthodox scholars dismiss all this as “fuss”, let’s move on to another period of the history in the Shiji, so that orthodox scholars can not dismiss the record so easily, yet they can never explain it as well.

[loveandgratitude]

HOW IS CHINA MANAGING IT'S ECONOMIC MIRACLE
You know...the one we wrecked our manufacturing
base for and the one that's going to show the world
how to do it right.

Maybe not.

This video shows the truth ..... about the miracle


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPILhiTJv7E

MAYBE A NEW REVOLUTION IS NEEDED TO HOUSE THE POOR

[cayman]

Where the Mystery is the deepest is the gate of all that is subtle and wonderful......
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/caymanlee/mysteryofmystery.jpg

[mosquito]

Nice to find this thread, I'm still relatively new here, and have attempted to give people an outsider's view of China. Hope we can make contact

[Hybrid5226]

Counterfeiting an profit

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[hao]

Question time for 'the authority on China issue on avalon', let's start with the water powered car claim

According to David Wilcock's "China's October Surprise", China sent briefcases to various government around the world last year, it is said a blueprint for a working battery running a car on water was included.

My question is do you think China actually possess such technology? And if it does when did the country acquire such technology?

[hao]

It is almost half year now since this thread was created, during which time many interesting and profound developments have transpired, none of which are been updated here.


Here is an important update, the CCP just had it's 90th anniversary on July 1st, but the former president was missing from the show. According to foreign reports, the man is allegedly deceased, however the Chinese government is censoring such rumors. Meanwhile, high official Li Yuan Chao, former head of JiangSu province is emphasizing the need to fight corruptions, a week later Lai Chang Xing was detained by the CBSA, he is expected to be repatriated to China later this month.


Then I want to say there are different factions within the CCP, at least, the former president and the current president don’t always agree with each other. Like how Hu dealt with the corrupt former Shanghai mayor Chen liangyu, the incident reflects internal power struggles between the so called "shanghai group" and "Hu's camp".

It’s pertinent to add, that some members of this "shanghai group" still hold important positions in the current government, but nonetheless are known for connection to some of the biggest corruption cases ever occurred since the founding of the PRC.
The family member of a high ranking official i met belong to the "shanghai group", they have strong dislike towards another high ranking official who once suggested that all CCP officials should have their properties registered. But according to them, the man who made such suggestion is more corrupt than anyone else.

It doesn’t matter who’s more corrupt, its clear to me its a sign of rampant corruption within the CCP, that some of the biggest corruption cases occurred during the reign of "shanghai group" will need some conclusion in the future.

When there is corruption, and greed for money, it makes sense certain parts of the Chinese government would "fell prey" to the NWO. Which is precisely why there have been warnings from both civilian and military intellectuals all these years. Another sign of this would be the biggest corruption case since founding of the PRC that is still unsolved, am talking about the Lai's case, who’s seeking refuge in Canada for all these years, and Canada happens to be a close friend of the USA, the CIA would surely exploit such to their own advantage because it involves very high ranking officials from the "shanghai group".

It seems it started sooner than i expected.

By this stage, if one haven't already figured out "What's happening in China". As the saying goes "A slight error in the beginning results in a big mistake in the end".

As for the water powered car question, here is what i got

Recently i read a blog speculating this year's devastating Japanese earthquake has something to do with Japan's intention to manufacture water powered cars. As i was informing my mother this assumption, she reminded me that such technology was actually already available to China in the early 70s.

So i inquired her further on this matter, this is what i got, my mother used to work in a state owned trading company specializing in chemicals and instruments, it was 1974 or 1975, one of her colleague told her that they had the choice of pursuing several projects, one of them was the water powered car, it was ready for industrialization which means the development of such technology must have been initiated some time earlier, she think it was not an imported technology since their department engaged only in export at the time.(and frankly who would have exported such technology to China in the early 70s? Not to mention even now such technology does not officially exist) However, such project was never realized.

But one answer leads to more questions, the first one would be "If China indeed had the know-how of making water-powered cars, then why it didn't industrialize the technology?" or it could be asked another way "What stopped the country to industrialize the technology?"

I tried to give the halt an explanation; maybe such technology would put too much strain on the consumption of China's fresh water resources especially when it is scarce in North China. But my mother also informed me that China had working technology for ocean water desalination, she told me as matter of fact she was in charge of such project, and they were targeting those dry otherwise coastal Arabian countries for the export of it, but some of them rejected the technology saying it is too "expensive" for them, while others seemed not interested at all.

So, rich oil producing countries in the Middle East who lack fresh water resources couldn't afford ocean water desalination technology, and at the same time China was about to industrialize the water powered car?

Hmm, something was not right, and this is just the prelude.

[hao]

The significance of Lai Chang Xing's repatriation signaled several things,

Internally, the current government is cleaning the mess left by the former regime in order to give the next government which will be inaugurated next year, a "clean" start. A necessary and long sought preparation heralding the transition from "energy war" to "energy revolution". A "new" government that is "compatible" with the future plan as outlined by the country's "12th five year plan".

Obviously, “clean” would be implied to political environment, besides Li yuan chao, the former head of Jiangsu province; Wang yang, the head of another major economic province is also emphasizing on the need for “a long-term fight against corruption”. Bo xi lai, the former trade minister is now the head of Chongqing, China’s biggest municipal city, since he took charge, the terrible corruption that plagued the city before has been considerably cleansed. These are the men which will form the cornerstone of next government.

Besides political implication, there is another aspect to the notion of “clean”. Some recent developments I see as indicators of such “clean” start.

Russian president Medvedev announced that rely on "energy export" as primary means for Russia's economic growth will change in the future, not only Russia wants to change it's economic strategy, it wants to achieve a GDP growth on par with that of China and Brazil. The announcement came just after the state visit paid by Chinese president Hujintao whereafter he attended the .St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. (The elites were reportedly [by fulford] offering Russia the choice of becoming the new financial centre of the world, an attempt to cling on to their power, but it seems Russia has made its decision)
So how is it possible for Russia to double even triple its GDP growth without relying on "energy export"?

The clue maybe found in one of the agreement signed between Russia and China during this recent visit, namely "co-operation on renewable energy". During the visit, the Chinese president also called for "the industrialization of high-tech"

Such call echoes the announcement made by the Chinese government earlier this year. In its "12th five year plan", China wants to "stop environmental pollution", but how is it possible for them to do that with the current technology? Perhaps not coincidentally, one of the things that's going to happen according to the "plan" will be the "industrialization of high-tech", China's Aerospace corporation alone have thousands of high-tech patents that are currently not available to the civilian sector, but now the Chinese government wants to industrialize them in the near future.

Not coincidentally, the BRICS summit in China agreed on greater dependence on currencies other than the dollar. New Zealand actually bought millions dollar worth of Chinese currency as China allows trade using RMB for the first time, Russia ordered even more amount right after the summit.

A car can actually run on water, but clean energy was suppressed by the elites; instead they based their world rule on oil and their oil currency, the dollar. And by using the "power of nightmares"(BBC documentary) to legitimize their rule, here comes the "evil" Soviet, here come the "evil" terrorists, and now here come the "evil" China. But now, signs are this system is gradually phasing out. The main driving force for such change is the BRICS it seems.

Globally, for a decade, Canada safeguarded Lai because they were forced by certain power that controls the U.S.A, that power is now losing grasp on Canada, which also means it is losing grasp on America itself as well. And there should be visuals.

Towards the end of last year, just as everyone pondered over America's unprecedented hostile maneuver, in which three carrier groups were gathered around China, but there was a 180 degree turn as Robert Gates visited China in January, which was followed by the Chinese president's state visit to America.

The recent visit by the chairman of JCS Mike Mullen came as result of general Chen bing de's earlier tour of the America, but also the result of the "common understanding" reached in January.

Similarly unprecedented, besides the Second Artillery Corps, Mike Mullen was allowed to take a tour of the advanced Chinese Yuan class submarine.
http://himg2.huanqiu.com/attachment2010/110715/6f2881a7ce.jpg

As mentioned by Benjamin fulford, the recent friendly exchange between the world's two most powerful military means they do not want to see the world to be destroyed by nuclear holocaust, in another words, those who have the plan to wipe out billions of people have now lost considerable control over the American military.

This is the equivalent of another JFK+Khrushchev moment, the only difference is this time they tried to assassinate a senator named Gabrielle Giffords.

It is probably why 1/9 of America's ICBMs were jammed by advanced technologies last October.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/20/idUS185480+20-Jun-2011+PRN20110620

Like Benjamin Fulford said, what conceived as conspiracy will be reported by mainstream media, eventually it will become history.

The undertaking of covert otherwise effective military counteraction is probably why there was a 180 degree turn between the two military, and is probably why Benjamin said the following in his latest report


The secret institutions devoted to violence are secret because they are in some way opposed to the public institutions devoted to violence. Various national spy agencies are a case in point. A Chinese agent in the US, for example, operates in secrecy because inside the US the Chinese are not the dominant public power.

His example was perhaps not randomly picked.

P.S. A current development which i see as indicator of the transition.

Chinese official visits UAE's planned carbon-neutral city, hopes for strategic partnership
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90883/7441027.html

[Flash]

Thank you hao.

It is quite interesting to have news about the Chinese political scene and an analysis from a Chinese point of view.

It is also interesting to have news about the involvement of the West in China or Russia, some of which I had never heard before, such as Canada hosting a renown corrupt leader or USA having carrier groups around China.

This may explain the missile that seem to have gone off the coat of California last year.

As for the car running on water, it seems that the technology has been developed all around the world, but never put into production, from what I gather over time here and there.

[onawah]

This casts an interesting light on Richard Hoagland's recent astounding prediction (of course, much of what he says is "astounding", but still, it's kind of interesting). He said that Obama's running mate, since (he said) Biden would be stepping down, would be Gabrielle Giffords.

"This is the equivalent of another JFK+Khrushchev moment, the only difference is this time they tried to assassinate a senator named Gabrielle Giffords."

[nickc2496]

Yeah there is a massive glass ceiling on public technology - we could have all been off the grid years ago, no need for fossil fuels, each person growing at least some of their food fresh and organically treating animals with respect and eating alot less meat, this current veil of holding the masses back is so dam childish and egotistical, perpetuated buy scared weak minded old fools, the system is on the way down, thats why so much is happening - it will get rougher before the calm - but man, i cant wait...i must happen for there to be change, america will go bust very soon, the euro is a failure, both pushed on by private reserve banks - the middle east is on fire, we are so far out of balance something must give, its so obvious, i hope that in the next few years more truth comes out and when people wake up on mass - the true new/next age can begin, man it will be such a time of creativity and passion, and most of all self worth, a world of co-operation not competition.

Any culture based on a single 'ism that does not share ideas and realize if we open our minds/hearts we each have a piece of the puzzle, if we exclude and not include we will never have the whole picture :)

Peace ad love my sisters and brothers :)

[T Smith]

Question time for 'the authority on China issue on avalon', let's start with the water powered car claim

According to David Wilcock's "China's October Surprise", China sent briefcases to various government around the world last year, it is said a blueprint for a working battery running a car on water was included.

My question is do you think China actually possess such technology? And if it does when did the country acquire such technology?

In my view, yes, this is quite possible. The technology exists, but is suppressed by very powerful Anglo-American interests. If Wilcock is right, it would be a very dangerous game for the person or entity from whom China acquired the technology, assuming they didn't reverse-engineer their prototype and develop it themselves. Even more dangerous (as in hot WWIII dangerous) is if China is using this technology as some kind of technological-revolution threat--a kind of tacit blackmail to the West, if you wish. One would think if this revolution were to occur in China and throughout her sphere of influence, it might seriously threaten the Anglo-American Establishment, or even the agenda of Richard Dolan's breakaway civilization, if China broke out this technology in the world economy of the plebs.

If these connections are truly related, and there is no way to know without specialized research on the subject, it could explain a more detailed account of what the war in Libya is about. James Norman's The Oil Card provides an excellent framework of setting up this possibility. Personally, though, I'm just not so sure China isn't under the full control of the interests suppressing this technology, in which case the possibility above is simply wild conjecture...

[hao]

This casts an interesting light on Richard Hoagland's recent astounding prediction (of course, much of what he says is "astounding", but still, it's kind of interesting). He said that Obama's running mate, since (he said) Biden would be stepping down, would be Gabrielle Giffords.

"This is the equivalent of another JFK+Khrushchev moment, the only difference is this time they tried to assassinate a senator named Gabrielle Giffords."

When George Noory questioned Richard Hoagland about that claim, Richard asked him “Do you believe the Mayans are spiritual people?” In the “NASA Kennedy Obama Connection to 2012”, he tries to make certain parallel between the two, and how GWB and Obama were treated differently by the Mayan priests.

It seems the basis of this daring political prediction of his comes from his understanding of the Mayan culture and the 2012 prophecy.
Gabrielle Giffords assassination happened just a week before president Hu’s meeting with president Obama. She’s a strong supporter of renewable energy, and as i have pointed it out in my previous post that China is on the path of pursuing “clean” future as well. That’s little more than “coincidental” for me.
If Gabrielle Giffords attempted assassination was politically motivated, then there should be “inconsistency” from the crime scene, just like the mysterious murder case of JFK

Civilian doctors who first treated Giffords said the bullet had entered the back of her head and exited through the front of her skull, but experienced military physicians later concluded that it had traveled in the opposite direction
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/12/20110112gabrielle-giffords-more-responsive-brk12-ON.html

Interestingly, in the TV series “The Event”, Dempsey, the backstage man who exert influence in American politics tried to have a black president killed because he was trying to make public announcement about the existence of human ETs.
Given that, Nexus editor’s “Chinese briefcases” thread from GLP;David Wilcock’s “China’s October Surprise”;Kerry Cassidy’s Blog entry;Benjamin Fulford, though with different interpretation and guise, are all reporting that China is collaborating with ETs.
And DW’s article “Official Government Disclosure Has Begun” claims a human ET representative came with the Chinese delegation during the January meeting.
Perhaps, not coincidentally, there was another attempted political murder, this time, on the life of a senator who was predicted to be a black president’s running mate in 2012.

Also worth to mention is Richard Hoagland’s partner Ken Johnston, a mason who used to work in NASA. He once said most of the masons don’t know about their activity in NASA, and they don’t agree with them Hoagland considers the freemasons to be a positive thing.
The clue to the connection between Mayan and freemason maybe found in modern Gnostic interpretation of Eric Van Daniken’s “Cosmic serpents”

During the rise of Christianity, the Serpents were forced to hide within clandestine orders or become assimilated into eastern cultures which welcomed their ancient rites and practices. In the west the Serpents continued to survive as the Freemasons, Templars, and Rosicrucians- organizations which from their inception strove to overthrow the shackles of Christianity and eventually transform the entire Earth into a world based upon freedom of belief and speech.
http://www.moorsgate.com/2008/04/27/recommended-the-return-of-the-serpents-of-wisdom/

This interpretation casts an interesting light on Benjamin fulford’s report regarding the “Japanese bearer bond scandal”
http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/05/the-japanese-bearer-bond-scandal-a-comment-from-mr-benjamin-fulford/
in which he claims the involvement of “Knights Templar” and Freemasons.

It seems there is a conflict of interest between various factions which involves the elite and “the descendants of serpents”; that dramatic events are on the increase as 2012, “the year of the returning serpents” is getting close.

With that context, it is the realization of the imprint of serpent legacy behind the dawn of Chinese civilization which makes it easier for the entertaining of such “JFK+Khrushchev” moment.
http://www.spiritualgenome.com/page/the_tao_of_crop_circles.html

Though everyone knows now from “V” and “Battle of Los Angeles”, those who are pushing for “free energy” or use water as energy source are the insidious ones threatening humanity. Then “China threat” is not the only “threat” humanity is facing.

“To reach the same goal by different means”, what’s same is the question “Do you believe the Mayans are spiritual people?”

[Referee]

Thank the center of the universe. It is about time real disclosure started. I feel very positive energy right now. I feel we will win this.

PS what will the US administration do when faced with the questions that will arise?

Live, Laugh, Love

Best Regards,

Referee

[onawah]

Interesting!
Sine I didn't watch "V"or "Battle of Los Angeles", would you please explain what you mean by "Though everyone knows now from “V” and “Battle of Los Angeles”, those who are pushing for “free energy” or use water as energy source are the insidious ones threatening humanity. Then “China threat” is not the only “threat” humanity is facing."

How could pushing for free energy or the use of water as an energy source be insidious?
Thanks.




This casts an interesting light on Richard Hoagland's recent astounding prediction (of course, much of what he says is "astounding", but still, it's kind of interesting). He said that Obama's running mate, since (he said) Biden would be stepping down, would be Gabrielle Giffords.

"This is the equivalent of another JFK+Khrushchev moment, the only difference is this time they tried to assassinate a senator named Gabrielle Giffords."

When George Noory questioned Richard Hoagland about that claim, Richard asked him “Do you believe the Mayans are spiritual people?” In the “NASA Kennedy Obama Connection to 2012”, he tries to make certain parallel between the two, and how GWB and Obama were treated differently by the Mayan priests.

It seems the basis of this daring political prediction of his comes from his understanding of the Mayan culture and the 2012 prophecy.
Gabrielle Giffords assassination happened just a week before president Hu’s meeting with president Obama. She’s a strong supporter of renewable energy, and as i have pointed it out in my previous post that China is on the path of pursuing “clean” future as well. That’s little more than “coincidental” for me.
If Gabrielle Giffords attempted assassination was politically motivated, then there should be “inconsistency” from the crime scene, just like the mysterious murder case of JFK

Civilian doctors who first treated Giffords said the bullet had entered the back of her head and exited through the front of her skull, but experienced military physicians later concluded that it had traveled in the opposite direction
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/12/20110112gabrielle-giffords-more-responsive-brk12-ON.html

Interestingly, in the TV series “The Event”, Dempsey, the backstage man who exert influence in American politics tried to have a black president killed because he was trying to make public announcement about the existence of human ETs.
Given that, Nexus editor’s “Chinese briefcases” thread from GLP;David Wilcock’s “China’s October Surprise”;Kerry Cassidy’s Blog entry;Benjamin Fulford, though with different interpretation and guise, are all reporting that China is collaborating with ETs.
And DW’s article “Official Government Disclosure Has Begun” claims a human ET representative came with the Chinese delegation during the January meeting.
Perhaps, not coincidentally, there was another attempted political murder, this time, on the life of a senator who was predicted to be a black president’s running mate in 2012.

Also worth to mention is Richard Hoagland’s partner Ken Johnston, a mason who used to work in NASA. He once said most of the masons don’t know about their activity in NASA, and they don’t agree with them Hoagland considers the freemasons to be a positive thing.
The clue to the connection between Mayan and freemason maybe found in modern Gnostic interpretation of Eric Van Daniken’s “Cosmic serpents”

During the rise of Christianity, the Serpents were forced to hide within clandestine orders or become assimilated into eastern cultures which welcomed their ancient rites and practices. In the west the Serpents continued to survive as the Freemasons, Templars, and Rosicrucians- organizations which from their inception strove to overthrow the shackles of Christianity and eventually transform the entire Earth into a world based upon freedom of belief and speech.
http://www.moorsgate.com/2008/04/27/recommended-the-return-of-the-serpents-of-wisdom/

This interpretation casts an interesting light on Benjamin fulford’s report regarding the “Japanese bearer bond scandal”
http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/05/the-japanese-bearer-bond-scandal-a-comment-from-mr-benjamin-fulford/
in which he claims the involvement of “Knights Templar” and Freemasons.

It seems there is a conflict of interest between various factions which involves the elite and “the descendants of serpents”; that dramatic events are on the increase as 2012, “the year of the returning serpents” is getting close.

With that context, it is the realization of the imprint of serpent legacy behind the dawn of Chinese civilization which makes it easier for the entertaining of such “JFK+Khrushchev” moment.
http://www.spiritualgenome.com/page/the_tao_of_crop_circles.html

Though everyone knows now from “V” and “Battle of Los Angeles”, those who are pushing for “free energy” or use water as energy source are the insidious ones threatening humanity. Then “China threat” is not the only “threat” humanity is facing.

“To reach the same goal by different means”, what’s same is the question “Do you believe the Mayans are spiritual people?”

[hao]

Some recent developments and signs of change

Internally, first it’s the former Chinese president's mysterious absence during CCP's 90th anniversary,
2 years ago, during the anniversary of the founding of PRC, the man was standing behind a rather uncomfortable Hu on Tiananmen, looking content and relaxed, as if he's still the president when Hu was his vice, but during the CCP's 90th anniversary, an occasion for "shine and brag" (of what the man enjoys), the former leader is "mysteriously" vanished as though he didn't exist.
Then high officials from major economic provinces are vowing to fight corruption,
Today, former deputy mayor of Hangzhou, capital of Zhejiang province, and former deputy mayor of Suzhou, a major city in Jiangsu province were put to death. The provinces are adjacent to Shanghai, could be the start of a campaign against the "Shanghai group".
But those two deputies are "smaller fishes"; bigger ones will be caught when Lai Chang Xing returns. Storm is coming for somebody, is it the reason behind the gloomy looks on the faces of former powerful men who did show up during the 90th anniversary, an occasion they supposed to "shine and brag"?
For the two deputies, this time, the government is “deadly serious”.

Globally, The Washington post sensed that "something is adrift"

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is in India for a strategic dialogue that will focus on how China’s ascendance is transforming Asia. At her next stop, Indonesia, she is to hold trilateral consultations — U.S.-Japan-Korea and U.S.-Japan-Australia — on the margins of a broader regional forum. The Obama administration understands that Japan and India are critical bookends of a regional strategy aimed at peaceful cooperation with a rising China. Both Japan and India are moving closer to the United States precisely because of their concerns about China’s direction. Yet something is adrift.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-arent-we-working-with-japan-and-india/2011/07/18/gIQAIs6gMI_story.html

Also, right after Mike Mullen's visit, the Dalai Lama is being greeted by president Obama. Then Hotan, a city in Xinjiang was attacked by armed men, goes the western media blitz, biased towards what the WUC's saying over what the Chinese government is saying as usual.

So, the "Jasmine revolution" didn't work out as planned, trying the Tibet and Xinjiang cards would be the unsurprised move.

But is this the “master plan” or “last ditch”?

[hao]

How could pushing for free energy or the use of water as an energy source be insidious?

It was meant as sarcasm.

In "battle of Los Angeles", the aliens use water as power source for their battery
http://oi52.tinypic.com/2ijhf6d.jpg

In "V", the Reptilian aliens dazzle the world with their "Blue energy", which is "clean sustainable energy -- no pollution, no infrastructure needed, just power"
http://i56.tinypic.com/15nu5y0.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/9ql9if.jpg

But their real intention is to colonize earth by exterminating humans.

[onawah]

Thanks for clarifying that.

[fifi]

What happens to Cayman? I miss his posts.

[hao]

Thanks for clarifying that.

Glad you like the part about "serpents".

Freemasons, ancient Egypt, ancient China and Knights templars are connected in strange ways


Ben Gates: We found an engraving on the stem of a 200-year-old pipe.
Riley Poole: Owned by the Free Masons.
Abigail Chase: May I see the pipe?
Ben Gates: We don't actually have it.
Abigail Chase: Did Bigfoot take it?

Powell: [referring to the underground staircase] How do a bunch of guys with hand tools build all this?
Ben Gates: Same way they built the pyramids - and the Great Wall of China.
Riley Poole: Yeah... the aliens helped them.

In the National Treasure movie, when they pondered over how freemasons build the treasure pit that contains the treasures of Knights Templar, though the answer is meant to be a joke, but it was actually correct in claiming "ET influence" over these ancient cultures, i mean the Great Wall of China was built by the first emperor of China, Qin shihuangdi, which really didn't require any "ET" assistance in constructing it. But the man was indeed visited by a group of "ETs" after he had just unified China, but he didn't refer them as "ETs", they were regarded as "Immortals" by the emperor himself.

Interestingly, the Masonic symbol consists of compasses and a carpenter's square, tools for drawing a circle and a square.
http://i53.tinypic.com/14e6ydz.png

Ancient depictions of Nuwa and Fuxi, the goddess creator and her companion who is credited with the invention of basic concepts of the I Ching (aka "the book of changes"), they often have compasses and a carpenter's square in their hands too
http://i54.tinypic.com/14o56c.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ikqste.jpg

Ancient Chinese believed that "the Heaven is round" and "the earth is square", those holding the compasses and a carpenter's square have the knowledge of Heaven and earth. Nuwa and Fuxi are always depicted as serpentine beings, having serpent/dragon form is a synonym for "divine" in Chinese culture.

The Temple of Heaven in Beijing was built by the Ming dynasty in the early 15th century, those round platforms represent the Heaven, and the square platform represents earth.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2z7lst3.jpg

It seems there is a connection between freemasons and the Chinese culture, and i wouldn't be surprised about it, since there is a connection between Mayan and Chinese culture, and a connection between Mayan and the freemasons.

In Graham Hancock's view, the serpent is the keeper of knowledge as well, citing ancient Gnostics and how they regarded serpents differently compared to conventional Christian depiction, he said "Christianity lost its way when the Roman empire took over". His fond for the serpents grew after his Ayahuasca experience in the Amazon jungle where he got his inspiration for "Entangled", his latest work.

This interpretation can be mirrored in the story of Cleopatra, she was never the "Sexy bombshell" which became the synonym for "seducer of men", she had a rather "ordinary" look.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2j3ljz5.jpg

Some forces in Rome perceived the knowledge stored in the Great libary of Alexandria as "threat" the way the "oil dependent" elites of today's world would have perceived the "water powered car". That's probably why they have Egypt invaded and the libary destroyed and then kept the loot in the vault of Vatican. As mentioned by history channel's Ancient Alien series, the creator of the Coral Castle of Florida claimed that he knows how the ancient Egyptians build the pyramid, is a tentative evidence to the reality of how the mass being kept away from ancient lost knowledges.

Another of Hancock's contribution to this interpretation of history is his accidental discovery of the Ark of Covenant, hide by Knights Templars in Ethiopia for centuries, and for centuries their successors protect the artifact from falling into the hands of invading European armies.

With this interpretation of the serpents, the surge of tales of how Christian knights slaying the hideous creatures called dragons in the early ADs which signifying the virtue and valor of a true Christian, (later expanded to the slaughtering of the Saracen Infidels) offers a glimpse into the psyche of "surviving serpents in the West" and why they "strive to overthrow the shackles of Christianity".

If the Christian tales about the dragons were deemed (in the eyes of the serpents) as "demonization", then "V" is just the continuation of a legacy, but also the herald of what's gonna happen, and rather "imminent", because time is a different concept for "immortals" as compared to our measure of it.

The equivalent of "the rise of Atlantis", as in "Stargate: Atlantis", if you will.

[hao]

In my view, yes, this is quite possible. The technology exists, but is suppressed by very powerful Anglo-American interests. If Wilcock is right, it would be a very dangerous game for the person or entity from whom China acquired the technology, assuming they didn't reverse-engineer their prototype and develop it themselves. Even more dangerous (as in hot WWIII dangerous) is if China is using this technology as some kind of technological-revolution threat--a kind of tacit blackmail to the West, if you wish. One would think if this revolution were to occur in China and throughout her sphere of influence, it might seriously threaten the Anglo-American Establishment, or even the agenda of Richard Dolan's breakaway civilization, if China broke out this technology in the world economy of the plebs.

If these connections are truly related, and there is no way to know without specialized research on the subject, it could explain a more detailed account of what the war in Libya is about. James Norman's The Oil Card provides an excellent framework of setting up this possibility. Personally, though, I'm just not so sure China isn't under the full control of the interests suppressing this technology, in which case the possibility above is simply wild conjecture...

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill pretty much exposed the "peak oil" myth. It also revealed the fact the Anglo-America elites know all along that rich oil fields are not exclusive to the area of Middle East, not to mention according to past Russian scientific studies, (which was noted by William Engdahl in relevant articles of his) oil is actually not "fossil fuel", but rather primordial materials originated probably from earth's mantle.


In the 1950’s the Soviet Union faced ‘Iron Curtain’ isolation from the West. The Cold War was in high gear. Russia had little oil to fuel its economy. Finding sufficient oil indigenously was a national security priority of the highest order.

Scientists at the Institute of the Physics of the Earth of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Geological Sciences of the Ukraine Academy of Sciences began a fundamental inquiry in the late 1940’s: where does oil come from?

In 1956, Prof. Vladimir Porfir’yev announced their conclusions: ‘Crude oil and natural petroleum gas have no intrinsic connection with biological matter originating near the surface of the earth. They are primordial materials which have been erupted from great depths.’ The Soviet geologists had turned Western orthodox geology on its head. They called their theory of oil origin the ‘a-biotic’ theory—non-biological—to distinguish from the Western biological theory of origins.

If they were right, oil supply on earth would be limited only by the amount of hydrocarbon constituents present deep in the earth at the time of the earth’s formation. Availability of oil would depend only on technology to drill ultra-deep wells and explore into the earth’s inner regions. They also realized old fields could be revived to continue producing, so called self-replentishing fields. They argued that oil is formed deep in the earth, formed in conditions of very high temperature and very high pressure, like that required for diamonds to form. ‘Oil is a primordial material of deep origin which is transported at high pressure via ‘cold’ eruptive processes into the crust of the earth,’ Porfir’yev stated. His team dismissed the idea that oil is was biological residue of plant and animal fossil remains as a hoax designed to perpetuate the myth of limited supply.
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/print/Peak%20Oil.htm

I notice questions arise from David Wilcock's "China's October Surprise" in which he claims China, aided by ETs is leading a global "energy revolution", one of the common question is if China is all about going "green" or "clean", then why the country is trying to grab oil wherever it can lay its hands on?

One could say its like what Benjamin Fulford said, "energy revolution" doesn't happen overnight, such abrupt change could affect the lives of many of which are dependent on this system, even though it is parasitical in nature.

But there are other stories to this as well. In short, Goldman Sachs which manipulates oil price was the key "negotiator" in the negotiation regarding China's eligibility to enter the WTO. Many of China's state owned industries were reformed, among them were the Chinese oil industries, it was demanded as precondition, but it was also hurried decision by the former regime, professional negotiations were intervened by top Chinese leaders and final deals were often unfavorable to China, and previous efforts by Chinese negotiators were overruled. That's why Lai Chang Xing is a key player in this mystery, his case not only testifies just how corrupt the former regime was, but his decade long exile in Canada also testifies the existence of ulterior influence on the course of this part of human history as well.

With the country's entry of WTO, and subsequently turning China into "the world factory", the globalists gradually demolished the remnants of a self-sufficient system created during the era of Mao, making great profit out of this "world factory", at the same time transformed it into "the second largest polluter in the world", forced the country to become dependent on foreign oil import, at the same time establishing military bases all around China, and by seizing strategic pathways which would strangle China to death by cutting off its oil supply lines when they decided its time to start WW3.

Perhaps there is a reason to why Benjamin Fulford mentioned the conflict between Gog and Magog, a conflict said to occur near Endtimes.

Using oil as energy source is a lie, there are limited reserves exclusive to the Middle East is a lie too, hence Anglo-American wars in the Middle East are bogus too, the real reason behind this orchestration, perhaps, they need to set the theater for the endtime conflict in the Middle East, where they thought they would get their desired outcome.

Perhaps, that's why "the Anglo-Saxon mission" needs to have Iran and China involved, and China would be the ultimate target, "endtime battle between the Eastern kings and Western kings", the current global geopolitical game certainly shows a parallel to such "prophecy".

Perhaps, it is for this "absurdity" that people have to pay their gas bills.

[Carmody]

So, rich oil producing countries in the Middle East who lack fresh water resources couldn't afford ocean water desalination technology, and at the same time China was about to industrialize the water powered car?


It is like Brown's gas.

It is not the Brown's gas itself..... it is the immediately created gigantic doorway into Pandora's box that is created by it's mere existence.

That is the problem.

The entire control structure will dissipate into nothingness with the introduction of these 'answers with no question' into the scientific paradigm.

The unfolding is uncontrollable and it goes everywhere. Straight into transmutation, dimensional egress, direct dimensional energetic manipulation, time travel, anti gravity, dimensional shifting, and weapons. Unimaginable weapons.

The direct creation of any form of elemental matter, straight out of the primordial dimensional vibrational stew.

That's where brown's gas ...goes.

That is where water powered cars...go.

[Flash]

Ok Carmody, lets say that anything having to do with free energy also has to do with extraordinary powers, that some ET probably share, including free weaponery, unimiginable weapons.

Lets assume humans are probably not ready at all for such weapons, our civilisations being too barbaric, our individual thinking too restrictive and undeveloped, our heart and empathy often near the nill point. In other words, we are still irresponsible children and we cannot, in any circumstances, possess such weapons and knowledge at this level of development.

In that case, why has some PTB acquire such technologies most probably? What tells us they are more competent to asbstain from wrongful use? Why are we always so near to having it if we are not there yet in terms or inner development and responsibilities? Where has it gone wrong?

What would be needed for the human to change and evolve in such a way that their technological discoveries match their behavior/responsible levels.

Who ultimately decides?

With such advances, there is surely a way to make humans take a quantum step forward, or else will we return to very primitive ways?

I have no doubts that we are not ready for very powerfull instruments that could be turn into weapons just by looking at what happend in Oslo and Norway yesterday. There is not doubt that rogues should not have access to technologies that can be destructive and that there is a lot of rogues on earth.

My last question, are we all in fact rogues elements from the universe? A prison planet with almost no way out? Or are we just a developing specie with very slow progress?

Again, what tells me that PTB and Bush's like are more apt to control such technologies? Or the Chinese PTB? Isn't it what is happening actually?

I always enjoy your post for the deep thinking they provoke in all aspects. Thanks

[hao]

So, rich oil producing countries in the Middle East who lack fresh water resources couldn't afford ocean water desalination technology, and at the same time China was about to industrialize the water powered car?


It is like Brown's gas.

It is not the Brown's gas itself..... it is the immediately created gigantic doorway into Pandora's box that is created by it's mere existence.

That is the problem.

The entire control structure will dissipate into nothingness with the introduction of these 'answers with no question' into the scientific paradigm.

The unfolding is uncontrollable and it goes everywhere. Straight into transmutation, dimensional egress, direct dimensional energetic manipulation, time travel, anti gravity, dimensional shifting, and weapons. Unimaginable weapons.

The direct creation of any form of elemental matter, straight out of the primordial dimensional vibrational stew.

That's where brown's gas ...goes.

That is where water powered cars...go.

"unimaginable weapons", hmm, i actually think that's exactly what stopped China to industrialize water powered cars in the 70s

the clue is found in "Planet Earth the Latest weapon of War" by Rosalie Bertell, searching with the key word "Tangshan earthquake" yielded what i suspected.

The sequence of the events were, the Japanese were trying to develop water powered car in the early 70s, but they were stopped by political and economic pressure from America,

At roughly the same time (1974-1975), China was trying to develop similar technology as well, but it was never realized,

In July 1976, the largest earthquake by death toll hit Tangshan, a city located just northeast of the Chinese capital, many "anomalies" were observed by various disciplines of the government before the disaster, an unprecedented joined effort was done to investigate the cause of the devastating earthquake.

The UN resolution on "PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF
ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES " was adopted in December 1976,

After the Tangshan earthquake, from the 70s to the 80s, Chinese seismologists began intense study of the relationship between earthquake clouds and earthquakes, interestingly, the Japanese were also doing the same scientific endeavor around the same period.

Zhonghao Shou's warnings, a Chinese-American who based predictions on earthquake clouds are neglected by the American authority.
http://www.earthquakesignals.com/

In 2008, China's Sichuan province was struck by devastating earthquake, many say it was caused by HAARP,

In 2011, Japan was hit by earthquake that some say was an artificially induced disaster,

China was first country to send rescue team to Japan,

Later, by Japanese request, the meeting between leaders of Korea, Japan and China was held in Fukushima, the publicly stated agenda was "nuclear safety, prevention of disaster and other issues"

After the SCO meeting and state visit to Russia by the Chinese president, over 100 Ukrainian childrens were invited to China, victims of the Chernobyl disaster, the invitation was made during the visit to Ukraine.

Then we have Benjamin Fulford saying "China and Japan can challenge the Anglo-american world order"
http://benjaminfulford.com/theUSfinancial.html

If the people of China and Japan finally get their hands on water powered cars, i would argue it is "hard-earned".

[sunflower]

Thanks, Hao. Politics are complicated, aren't they? There's always more beneath the surface than meets the eye. I am beginning to understand a bit more of what's going on.

Cayman's insights were much appreciated also.

[hao]

Politics are complicated, aren't they? There's always more beneath the surface than meets the eye.


John Baird, the new minister of foreign affairs in the Conservatives’ new majority government, chose China as the designation of his first official visit abroad last week. As one of the most powerful figures in Prime Minister Harper’s inner circle, Baird sent a clear signal to Beijing that China is back at the top of Canada’s foreign policy agenda.

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1029373--sino-canadian-relations-strategic-partnership-ii

Not surprisingly, this change of diplomatic stance happened to be around the time of Lai Chang Xing's repatriation, It seems the Anglo-american elites are losing grasp on their subjects.

First its Germany, the economic powerhouse of Europe and a NATO member refused to participate in the invasion of Libya.
Days after that announcement, German Chancellor Merkel was going by helicopter.
She then had a narrow escape when her police chopper fell like a stone from the sky just hours after dropping her off.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368093/Merkel-narrowly-escapes-helicopter-crash-engines-fail-mid-air.html#ixzz1Q1qA2gJk

The country then had a lab created E.coli outbreak,
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/germanys-superbug-is-weaponized-with-bubonic-plague-dna/

and Chinese and German scientists are making joined effort in tackling the problem
http://www.hxen.com/englishvideo/newsvideo/2011-06-07/145616.html

Interestingly, one of the agreements signed between China and Germany during the recent visit by Chinese premier Wen Jiabao was "electric cars".

So, Japan+China, water powered cars, and an earthquake struck then a summit of three East Asian countries was held in Fukushima, then North Korean leader visited China which signaled its own initiation of "the open door policy"
http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/06/15/japanese-water-powered-car/

Germany+China, "electric cars", E.coli outbreak in Germany, "Taiwan Plasticizer scandal", both are having "food safety alert", the two are working together to tackle the E.coli menace, the people’s assembly has called the country to reconsider “food safety” as a matter of “national security”.

Now, its Canada

[hao]

What would be needed for the human to change and evolve in such a way that their technological discoveries match their behavior/responsible levels.

The duration of a meal for "ETs" is like six hundred years for human, the entire human history is like a film for them.

In episode “epiphany” of Stargate Atlantis, the SAT discovered an artificial ground created by “the ancients” for later generations pursuing “ascension”

http://i51.tinypic.com/95mm1x.jpg

For those who are seeking "higher plane of existence" the moment they realize that the ‘monster’ which has been harassing them is really their own creation because of fear, that they have the power to send it away if they change ‘attitude'.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2hs2kpg.jpg

‘Attitude’ as explained by “The Tao of Crop Circles”
http://www.spiritualgenome.com/page/the_tao_of_crop_circles.html

They achieve “ascension” once that burden is gone
http://oi52.tinypic.com/ie14b8.jpg

The circular and snow peaked mountain range is reminiscent of the famed Shambhala, believed to be located somewhere in the Himalayas.
http://i55.tinypic.com/rlx768.jpg

“The Kalachakra Tantra describes Shambhala as a perpetual bastion of peace and wisdom; it also foretells the decline of the world beyond its borders, where the Buddha’s teachings will gradually be forgotten.

The climax of the kingdom’s history arrives when the outside world has reached its spiritual nadir: then, Shambhala’s last king, Rudra Chakrin, and the kingdom’s vast armies will mount their horses and gallop over the mountains, cleansing the world of blight and ushering in a thousand-year Golden Age.”

Perhaps there is a reason to why the ‘stargate’ in “The Event” is located in Tibet.
http://i56.tinypic.com/mjo41k.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/2zz6lpf.jpg

The Return of the Serpents of Wisdom
"We will soon move into a new cycle of time called the 5th World, the World of Love, and the World of Venus. This time period has also been referred to as “the thousand year reign of Christ”"
http://www.moorsgate.com/2008/04/27/recommended-the-return-of-the-serpents-of-wisdom/

David Wilcock is absolutely right when he says “Earth is a laboratory for spiritual growth”.

But what has Shambhala to do with "the returning of the serpents"?

And why Edgar Cayce has the following prediction?


Edgar Cayce predicted great things for China and its people. On one occasion, Cayce told a group of people that eventually China would become “the cradle of Christianity, as applied in the lives of men.” (3976-29), suggesting that the personal application of spiritual principles would become paramount to the Chinese people. Cayce then went on to caution that it would take a long time to manifest but that it was the country’s destiny: “Yea, it is far off as man counts time, but only a day in the heart of God – for tomorrow China will awake.”

Surely, the Vatican and their Nazi friends would object to such future, would they not?

But the future is already written in the past, the way the film has script. Then, it is not surprising that it was the Anglo-american world order, not China "fell like a house of cards".

Let go of fear and ego, the truth will manifest itself, it will piss people off, but it will set people free

Like the Buddhist notion of "sea of bitterness", endless until one turns around to realize the end(shore) is actually 'right behind', but how can the endless sea of bitterness has end? perhaps, there was no "sea of bitterness".

[Carmody]

Like the Buddhist notion of "sea of bitterness", endless until one turns around to realize the end(shore) is actually 'right behind', but how can the endless sea of bitterness has end? perhaps, there was no "sea of bitterness".


Yes, that is true, there is only perception.

[hao]

there is only perception

Like perception of North Korea, why after decades of "being content as a rogue state", the North Korean leader suddenly visited China which signaled the coming of its own "open door policy" era? Such an era needs the accommodation of a peaceful environment in East Asia. Then, the visit was paid after the summit between South Korean, Japanese and Chinese leaders in Fukushima may indicate that a degree of consensus was reached during that summit, which was enough to prompt the "Rogue state" to make this 180 turn of itself.

Events like North Korea establishing diplomatic relationships with ASEAN countries during the organization's recent summit in Indonesia further indicates the coming of such peaceful environment which will not be exclusive to East Asia.

This brings up Benjamin Fulford, who is on behalf of "the white dragons" saying "China and Japan can challenge the Anglo-american world order and they can bring permanent peace on earth"

And Naoto Kan's sudden decision to visit "the rogue state" next month should be an interesting event to keep an eye for, especially he will be visiting China later this year.

[Carmody]

there is only perception

Like perception of North Korea, why after decades of "being content as a rogue state", the North Korean leader suddenly visited China which signaled the coming of its own "open door policy" era? Such an era needs the accommodation of a peaceful environment in East Asia. Then, the visit was paid after the summit between South Korean, Japanese and Chinese leaders in Fukushima may indicate that a degree of consensus was reached during that summit, which was enough to prompt the "Rogue state" to make this 180 turn of itself.

Events like North Korea establishing diplomatic relationships with ASEAN countries during the organization's recent summit in Indonesia further indicates the coming of such peaceful environment which will not be exclusive to East Asia.

This brings up Benjamin Fulford, who is on behalf of "the white dragons" saying "China and Japan can challenge the Anglo-american world order and they can bring permanent peace on earth"

And Naoto Kan's sudden decision to visit "the rogue state" next month should be an interesting event to keep an eye for, especially he will be visiting China later this year.

For those of us who may not be understanding whom you speak of, this is Naoto Kan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoto_Kan). Prime Minister of Japan.

[cayman]

What happens to Cayman? I miss his posts.

hello, fifi, thank you for your concern, I'm doing fine.
A small window opened, light and fresh air came in, suddenly I realize the wonderland is just out there, all I need to do is walk out of the house, so I did. now I'm enjoying the venture in the open wild
Best wishes to all

[hao]

Light and fresh air are good, out of the house is the necessary step for further communication.

Hopi prophecy rock

http://i53.tinypic.com/2i8dkdv.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/29zyl8l.jpg


To understand the future one might need to look back into history

the future is already written in the past, the way the film has script

I thank only twice in a world full of ignorance and prejudice, i use the word 'brother' only twice, the last serves to clarify the first, 'brother' as in "space brother".

But i prefer it my way "there is a bond between us and heaven"

[fifi]

Thanks for the reply, cayman. Hope you are safe and sound.

[hao]

People who follow the daily news grind, especially the news addicts to saturate themselves with information every day, often are blinded by detail and cannot see the big picture. They are like fish swimming about a pond that has been isolated from the main river. They worry about their daily food but fail to realize the dry season has come and their pond will dry.


Their big plan was to grab the oil of the Middle East and Central Asia, consolidate control over the Muslim world and then use Russia, Japan, NATO, Taiwan and India to crush China. The Chinese, of course, were supposed to just shut up and finance all of this. The Chinese wisely (and obviously) said no to all this and started spending their money on anything but the military industrial mass murder complex.

"The white dragon society", the only organization in the world which claims to have stopped a nuclear fallout in Japan and a new madrid fault line disaster in the U.S.A, it is also fighting and ousting a secret and rotten world financial system. but also things like this
"Once the planet stops bleeding the WDF would like to finance things like research into longevity, expansion into the universe and the development and implementation of hitherto suppressed technology. "

David Wilcock says in his new article "1950s Human ETs Prepare Us for Golden Age"


In short, human ETs crashed in Roswell and other sites, were treated badly by the US Government, and began secretly working with China to make plans that still have not reached their fruition -- but involve the defeat of the bad guys and the freeing of our world.

This does not mean the ETs endorse China, nor their policies. It does mean that they needed sufficiently powerful allies on the ground to counteract a great negative force at the proper time. Earth humans still have to do most of the work ourselves.

but a spokesperson for "the white dragon society" says this about China

The Nobel Peace prize should have gone to the Government of China and not a lone Chinese dissident. The fact of the matter is that China has been a major force for world peace while the governments of the Western nations have been pushing for never ending war.

That sounds very much like an endorsement to me.

So, who are "the white dragons"?

[hao]

May be the first question should be "What really happened at Fukushima?"

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima.html

so the subsequent "Fukushima summit", and "white dragons" can be put into perspective

And the Hopi prophecy,

According to David Wilcock's new article "1950s Human ETs Prepare Us for Golden Age", some of the ETs whom are helping human come from Pleiades

Interestingly, in Breccia's book there is a table of where the "good guys" and "bad guys" in this epic saga came from. Some of the "good guys" came from the Pleiades.

The Hopi believe they are direct descendents of the Pleiadians, their prophecy foretells the coming of "the day of Purification".

If the Pleiadians are here, it means the Hopi prophecy is in the progress of fulfilling itself.

According to David Wilcock,
"In short, human ETs crashed in Roswell and other sites, were treated badly by the US Government, and began secretly working with China to make plans that still have not reached their fruition -- but involve the defeat of the bad guys and the freeing of our world.

This does not mean the ETs endorse China, nor their policies. It does mean that they needed sufficiently powerful allies on the ground to counteract a great negative force at the proper time. Earth humans still have to do most of the work ourselves."

But in 1947, China was in the middle of a civil war, even after the founding of PRC in 1949, the country was weak. How come the ETs choose China as their Ally instead of Russia who was actually "sufficiently powerful" as compared to China?

I think Wilcock missed something there.

[hao]

I have no doubts that we are not ready for very powerfull instruments that could be turn into weapons just by looking at what happend in Oslo and Norway yesterday. There is not doubt that rogues should not have access to technologies that can be destructive and that there is a lot of rogues on earth.

If the prophecies about the coming "Golden age" are true, then i can't help but wonder, how can there be true "golden age" if there are still "Neo-Nazies", radical islamists and other form of extremists and criminals around?

The Hopi prophecy provides a clue


The elder brother [of the shining light] was told to go immediately to the east, toward the rising sun, and upon reaching his destination to start back immediately to look for his younger brother, who remained on Turtle Island [the Continental United States of America].

His mission was to help his younger brother to bring about the Purification Day, at which time all evildoers would be punished or destroyed, after which real peace, brotherhood, and everlasting life would be established. The elder brother would restore all land to his younger brother, from whom the Evil one among the white men had taken it. The elder brother [of the shining light] also would come to look for the Tiponi tablets and fulfill the mission given him by the Great Spirit.

The younger brother was instructed to travel throughout the land and mark his footsteps as he went about. Both brothers were told that a great white star would appear in the sky; when that happened, all people would know that the elder brother had reached his destination. Thereupon all people were to settle wherever they happened to be at that time, there to remain until the elder brother returned.

[hao]

The 2009 US-Russian satellite collision was fishy, i have long suspected it was caused by secret weapon test by the US.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090303/120392490.html
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-02/12/content_7471645.htm

i think there is a high-tech 'cold war' going on,

Coincidentally, China had the anti-satellite missile test on January 11th 2007, which was much criticized by the ‘international community’.

The county then was hit by a HAARP attack in 2008 which caused the devastating Sichuan earthquake, but the hardest hit Wenchuan county does not appear (on the surface) to be a strategic important site.

I notice an article from The Epoch Times (mouthpiece of the CIA backed Falun gong) says the quake was caused by ‘Nuclear Explosion’
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/8-6-3/71353.html

Then, in 2010 and 2011, on exactly the same day as the 2007 anti-satellite test, i.e. January 11th, China unveiled its mid-course interceptor and the J-20 fighter jet, the plane made its official flight on the day of Robert Gates visit to China.
http://himg2.huanqiu.com/attachment2010/110110/4de6a28d7c.jpg

Gates looked rather “tense”. Late in 2010, three American carrier groups were gathered around China, it was an unprecedented hostile move by the US during peace times, but there was a 180 degree turn as Gates visited China in January and was followed by Chinese president’s state visit to America where he was welcomed by president Obama.

The two militaries then had unprecedented exchange visits, Chinese general Chen bing de’s tour of the US was followed by the Chairman of JCS Mike Mullen’s visit to China, during which he was allowed to take a tour of the Second Artillery Corps (China's strategic missile forces) and the advanced Yuan class submarine.
http://himg2.huanqiu.com/attachment2010/110715/6f2881a7ce.jpg

And, from the late months of 2010 until the early months of 2011, there were continuous appearance of UFOs over ICBMs site in the US, which had an unprecedented shutdown on October 23,
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/20/idUS185480+20-Jun-2011+PRN20110620
Then, in early November, there was the “Los Angeles contrail”, which was rumored to be fired by Chinese submarine

It seems the Anglo-american elites are having a covert war with China and Russia.

And i would say there are “ETs” involved in this conflict,

I study Chinese legends and archeology, as well as prophecies, i have a very good idea to whom those “ETs” are.

In short, they are the “guardians” of this planet, which are part of much more powerful system. They have nuke sites checked in order to prevent a nuclear holocaust.

The reason they have massively intervened last year was most likely because the elites were about to pull their “depopulation plan” as warned by Benjamin Fulford.

The only way for humanity is peace and co-operation, there is no other way out.

[hao]

What happens to Cayman? I miss his posts.

The truth can stand the test of time and opposition.


I welcome everyone to post any question about my report. Discuss and debate is the best way to finding out the truth.


If there are anyone else in the forum come from China, please join me!


Therefore, I welcome anyone in the forum who come from China to discuss or even argue with me. as a matter of fact, I urge that!
After all, one mouth of a story is always thin.

Except, the one fulfilling such promises was not the one who wrapped them in beautiful words.


One will have access to all of them if one find the balance of the Tao, either the way, in the end its still the way of the Tao.

In the end, only the halt of imbalance is achieved, but not beyond that. So many things shall not be revealed.


It is only materialistic people who seek to make shelters. Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life. There is no shelter for evil. Those who take no part in the making of world division by ideology are ready to resume life in another world, be they Black, White, Red, or Yellow race. They are all one, brothers.

All i ever did here was trying to purge the ignorance and prejudice that has made the world more divided, and the evil forces more powerful. For that deeds i have been rewarded by heaven in unexpected ways. But my future is already secured before i stumbled upon this thread.

Conquering fear and ego was never a problem for me, for me it is about understand the meaning of life and by analysing the experiences in this physical world to see through the 'matrix', and to me there is no such thing as 'good' or 'bad', there is only realization which is the essence of this life's experience, eventually i shall be with others as i belong with them in the first place.

As for those promoting fear and hatred which are rooted in ignorance and prejudice, i only hope they understand what "2012" is really about, soon enough.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18587-Kerry-Cassidy-discusses---Predictions---with-Geoff-Faulkner--

[hao]

Who is Liu Xiao Bo? The 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner, and


Quite some time has elapsed since the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Liu Xiabobo, but the western media have yet to inform us about the ideals that he’s supposed to stand for. The reason is that Nobel Prize was given to someone who longs for colonization and for whom the only salvation is the obliteration of his own culture through western military intervention.
In an 1988 interview, Liu Xiabobo declared that China needed to be subjected to 300 years of colonial domination to become a decent country ... of a western cut, needless to say. In 2007, Liu Xiabobo reaffirmed his thesis and pronounced himself in favor of a radical and complete privatization of the Chinese economy.
I am merely repeating the information contained in an article by Barry Sautman and Yan Hairong published in the South China Morning Post (Hong Kong) [1], which can hardly be considered favorable to Beijing. On the contrary, the same article lambasted the Chinese government for having punished an opinion, no matter how "abject", with a jail sentence instead of resorting to criticism.
As for me, I would like to make a few observations. Western history manuals teach us that the Opium Wars ushered in the darkest period in the history of China: as upheld by eminent scholars, one of the world’s most ancient civilizations was literally "crucified". Towards the end of the XIX century, massive death from starvation became a daily and commonplace occurrence. However, in Liu Xiabobo’s opinion, that colonial period was not long enough. It should have lasted three times longer!
The least that can be said is that we are dealing here with a sort of "denial". The Western world does not hesitate to criminalize "deniers" in respect of the infamy committed against the Jewish people, yet it honors with the Nobel Peace prize a "denier" of the infamy suffered by the Chinese people under colonialism! Unfortunately, the position adopted by the political left is not much different. This same left, which was careful not to condemn the detention of David Irving and other representatives of that same line of thought who are still incarcerated, is now singing praises in favor of Liu Xiabobo.
But the Nobel laureate didn’t simply limit himself to expressing his opinions, regardless of how "abject" they might be, as even the South China Morning Post has acknowledged. After having exalted, in 1988, three centuries of colonial domination in China, the next year he flew (on his own initiative?) from the US back to China to participate in the Tiananmen Square rebellion in order to fulfill his dream [2].
Liu Xiabobo is still actively committed to that dream, as revealed in a 2006 interview with a Swedish reporter in which he extols the US war against Iraq as the means for exporting democracy. Thus, we are faced with a public figure who openly calls for the colonial domination of his own country and also, indirectly, a war of aggression.
His dream has brought him both a sentence behind Chinese prison bars and the "Nobel Peace prize".
http://www.voltairenet.org/Who-is-Liu-Xiabobo

Many of the so called "pro-democracy Chinese" are really "pro-Western extremists" in the ideological sense, they basically curse anyone, Chinese or not, who dares to say NO to Western powers, they are also ignorant in many fields, that's why people don't really see them picking on BRICS, even though according to them one of its key member is simply "evil", or explaining to people why Kofi Annan used to speak highly of China's contributions, the same man who dared to criticize the US-led Iraq war as illegal, or Taiwanese scholar Li Ao's (the famous 'liberal' and defiant guy who was jailed by the nationalist government of Taiwan) comparison of today's China with the golden age of Tang dynasty, even the bitter former enemy, the kuomintang are recognizing mainland's progress and they are praising such "evil" regime. Let alone of the examination of the opinions of western scholars like Noam Chomsky, Webster Tarpley, William Engdahl, Micheal Chudodovsky, etc

How many of these "brave souls" turned out on the streets to start a "jasmine revolution" in China early this year? Their online calls received little support from the population. Even those independent Chinese journalists who are sympathetic towards them find that "they lack strength and skills".

But i would say it’s partly due to there own flawed characters. I often see these so called "pro-democracy" folks swearing and using foul languages on those who disagree with them, but another more influential factor is the backlash produced by the massive demonization of China by the Western MSM's relentless lies in 2008, it really angered the Chinese populace. The West too, caught by surprise as massive Chinese demonstrations unleashed in Western cities. As if it was the fear of the old "boxer rebellion" making temporary resurgence, the Western Medias were headlining "beware of the new anti-West sentiment of the Chinese nationalism", and Beijing was compared to the Berlin Olympics of Nazi Germany, clearly the West was alarmed by the surge of Chinese nationalism, despite it was fueled by the West's own "anti-China" hysteria.

While such wound was still fresh, in 2009, the Western Medias again offended the Chinese populace by their biased and untruthful reports of urumqi riot, where the West excused the Uighur rioters while ignoring the plight of many innocent Chinese. Clearly, the Westerners do not have the Chinese people's best interests despite they often appear vocal and judgmental towards China, on the contrary, the West have sinister intent, that's what many Chinese are beginning to realize.

There are countless problems in China, but the capitalization of such downside by the "pro-democracy" groups online or "twitter youth" (as William Engdahl would call them) proved unsuccessful, they then say "its because the time hasn't come", or "the control is successful", or "the Chinese people are still too much brainwashed by the CCP". But they failed to see the impact of West's own misdeed. And these "pro-democracy" groups forget that the Chinese are very nationalistic people, the slogan used to purge China of Mongol rule was used again in the overthrowing of the Manchu, the same men who fought Western colonialists in the "Boxer rebellion", and their descendants took arms again in the fight against the Japanese invaders. While today's China is militarily strong enough to defend herself, the warmongering nature of NATO and its atrocities are not gone unnoticed by the Chinese populace who do not forget so easily the plight brought upon by the Opium Wars. Their Western supporters too, seem to have forgotten that, and they were surprised by the defiance demonstrated by overseas young Chinese on their streets.

But for those "pro-democracy" Chinese, they are not able to think out of their box/silo, the Art of War says, to achieve victory one has to know oneself and know one's enemy, the "pro-democracy" groups are too assertive of themselves as if whatever they say is right, while the only thing they are good at when facing their "enemy"(i.e. The Chinese government) is demonization (thus the 2008 HAARP attack of China is given such absurd explanations as nuclear explosion or the weight of the Three Gorges Dam, but these "pro-democracy" folks believe such, just like they believe the first Chinese EVA was faked, they will believe anything as long as its defaming the Chinese government) but propaganda alone wont help, and it applies either ways.

Let's ask these people a question, if the Communists were such an evil force, how did they succeed in taking control of this huge country in the first place?

The "commie bandits" got lucky, right? hmm, If they can't give a proper answer to this scholarly question, by making an objective analysis and comparison between the two competing political entities of China at the time, i.e. the economic policies of the Kuomintang and the Communists. But i will give these folks a hint, try starting with the founding father of the modern Chinese republic, Dr Sun Yat-sen. Oh wait, isn't Dr Sun Yat-sen the person who tried to free China from Western colonialism but at the same time tried to adopt "democracy"? But Dr Sun Yat-sen should be viewed as "evil" too, since he does not agree with Mr. Liu Xiao Bo's view of "China should be subjugated by the West, for another 300 years".

Then, i wish the same "luck" to the "Jasmine revolution" as dreamed by the "pro-democracy" Chinese, they'll need it.

As the independent journalists put it, "they lack strength and skills".

BTW, that question only touches on the 'view China as a modern nation-state' level,

Then there is the level of view China as 'an old and continuous civilization', and as the 'only surviving and influential culture of the serpents'

Before these "twitter youth" try to shove "democracy" to the Chinese populace, they need to improve themselves on all these three levels first, otherwise they will only be remembered as CIA tools in future history books after the collapse of this evil system which controls the world.

And time is running out as 2012 the year of the returning serpents is getting close, better collapse China by starting this "jasmine revolution" for your 'invisible' New (or is it going to be Old?) world order masters. You know, they almost "plead" for this move by the Chinese people, as it's evident in Kerry Cassidy's interview from my last post, as if they are running out of options besides "jasmine revolution".

[mosquito]

Well said !!

[hao]

Well said !!

Guess what these "pro-democracy" folks from China are saying about NATO's aggression of Libya and the recent "capture of Tripoli by the 'rebels'"? They say its "a victory for democracy".

The same they would call the 1 million death US-led Iraq war a "successful example of exporting democracy by the US and its western allies".

But the problem with this kind of "definition" of the "Libya issue" is you have Mr Abdel Hakim al-Hasadi, a notorious Al-Qaeda murderer whose hands are stained with American bloods is now (with the acknowledgement of America) the de-facto military governor in Tripoli.

Let's apply that "Bush doctrine" here, "if you support a terrorist then you are a terrorist", by that definition, the fact that these ""pro-democracy" Chinese are supporting a war, in which NATO hire Al-Qaeda mercenaries to terrorize Libyan civilians, renders them "terrorists" too. But i guess Mr Liu xiao bo can excuse himself by saying "oh, i didn't know America created Al-Qaeda".

Hence, those who are cheerleading NATO's war in Libya is really cheerleading "good inside job on 911 America", and the nearly 3000 death is really "a victory for democracy".

[hao]

The shadowy "dragon", responsible for the earthly dark dramas, arch-enemy of the "dragons".
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"The shadows", an old race and the arch-enemy of "what would be the angels to human", the souls of "dragon-headed" ETs are born into human bodies, they must join hands with the humans to overcome the threat posed by "The shadows" who plan to take control of everything.
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The prophetic scriptures in Dan 2:43, Isaiah 14:9+29, 26:14, Gen6:4, Job 26:5 and Rev 13:15 describes a genetic hybridization and resurrection of the fallen angels and their offspring who are now disembodied spirits. They will once again appear like flesh and blood humans to again deceive mankind. The fallen angels in reptilian form will also receive a "shell" to crossover and hide in as mentioned in Isaiah 14:29. Their purpose mentioned by Jude is to disrupt the affairs of men and lead us into a deception.

"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation,.." Jude 1:4

Although described as men, Jude further defines them with non-human definitions. "Clouds without water" "twice dead" "wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever." These are not humans.


First, the transfiguration of Sulpa. While his human form slumbered in a pool of blood, his aerial form issued forth from his open mouth as a writhing worm of smoke, shot through with glints of fire. The worm thickened into a helix, turbulent and flowing like a river of flood, the helix transformed itself into a man with the head of an alligator, and the man grew in an instant to giant size, twenty feet tall, towering above the place of sacrifice. Since neither the three remaining guards on hilltop nor the army down below reacted to any of this, Leoni reasoned the monster must be invisible in the physical realm, just as she was.

Of his beautiful earthly features only the tawny feral eyes were recognizable in his new reptilian head, and these gazed at her with hunger.

Sulpa manifest itself as dark cloud in the 21th century, joining hands with its counterpart Jack, it threatens the physical as well as non-physical realms.

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[hao]

Warning to Occupy Wall Street! OTPOR (CIA) is Infiltrating Your Ranks

http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=15125

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The popular Egyptian uprising is far from a simple picture of "Viva la revolution!"

Tarpley: Egypt Uprising is US-UK Destabilization Campaign
http://www.infowars.com/tarpley-egypt-uprising-is-us-uk-destabilization-campaign/

Mubarak Toppled by CIA Because He Opposed US Plans for War with Iran; US Eyes Seizure of Suez Canal; Was this the Threat that Forced Mubarak to Quit?
http://tarpley.net/2011/02/18/mubarak-toppled-by-cia-because-he-opposed-us-plans-for-war-with-iran/

Behind the 2011 Orgy of Destabilizations: Pre-Emptive Coups by the CIA to Halt an Exodus of US Satraps and Viceroys Leading to a Multipolar World
http://tarpley.net/2011/03/15/behind-the-2011-orgy-of-destabilizations/

The person's tendency to overlook the rather obvious CIA connection behind "Egypt revolution" is expected to overlook the same lingering factor behind similar calls by "Chinese dissidents" early this year, and their previous involvement in 1989 "pro-democracy movement" and Tibet. Worse, those "pro-democracy" Chinese are bundling Egypt and Libya together in their failed online call for a similar "revolution" in China. For one thing is obvious, Libya is nothing like Egypt.

The consequence of "the defeat of China" by the globalists controlled West (either in this fashion or more outright fashion) is foretold in the prophecy of the Hopies, the result would be billions of death, as mentioned by Benjamin Fulford and covered by David Wilcock as well.

Based on "Asian motifs" found in the Mayan city of Copan, "Aliens and lost worlds" briefly mentioned David.H.Childress's speculation of the possible relationship between the Mayan and Chinese culture, and that is where "China is a missing puzzle" should really be paraphrased.

"NATO's War on Libya is Directed against China: AFRICOM and the Threat to China's National Energy Security"


The same massively effective propaganda machine of the Pentagon, led by CNN, BBC, the New York Times or London Guardian will get the subtle command from Washington to "paint China and its leaders black." China is becoming far too strong and far too independent for many in Washington and in Wall Street. To control that, above all China's oil import dependency has been identified as her Achilles Heel. Libya is a move to strike directly at that vulnerable Achilles heel

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26763



Framing as deliberate manipulation
In mass media framing is a very well-researched subject. The technique refers to a technique of manipulating an individual's emotional reaction or more accurately, his or her perception of meanings of words or phrases. When the Republican Party sought to get support for a huge tax cut for the wealthy on inheritances, something people like Bill Gates or Warren Buffett found relevant to keeping their billions, the Bush Administration reframed the term inheritance taxes to become "death taxes," making it subtly seem like something everyone who ultimately dies should support—only the wealthy inherit, but everyone dies became the subtle reframed message.

A rhetorical phrase is packaged thus to encourage a certain interpretation and to discourage others. Two authorities on framing, Susan Fiske and Shelley Taylor identify why framing is so remarkably powerful as a tool to manipulate perception. It creates a mental "shortcut." According to them, human beings are by nature “cognitive misers”, meaning they prefer to do as little thinking as possible. Frames give us a quick and easy way to process information. Hence, people will use the previously mentioned mental filters to make sense of incoming messages. As Fiske and Taylor note, this gives the sender and framer of the information enormous power to use these schemas to influence how the receivers will interpret the message. 8

What is emerging, with the aggression against Libya as a major test case in the reframing of military intervention as responsibility to protect, is acceptance of radical new forms of US-orchestrated military intervention, with or without UN Security Council sanction, a radical new form of neo-colonialism, a major new step on the road to a New World Order, the Pentagon's much-sought Full Spectrum Dominance.

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/print/Creative%20Destruction%20Part%20III.pdf

[hao]

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Russian media is right in claiming the recent joint efforts of Russia and China in foiling another "Libya style" intervention using UN as excuse by the West, they have effectively prevented the start of WW3.

The prospect of Israel enter a military conflict with Syria is very real, and Turkey's enthusiasm in collaborating with NATO first on "Libya issue" and now on "Syria issue" also demonstrates NATO's willingness to start another conflict in the Middle East, which means the current 'covert' proxy operations would escalate into a large scale "Middle East war". That's when Iran would get involved openly, and thus inevitably complicate the situation due to Chinese and Russian interests with Tehran.

And just as the cabal controlled West failed to use the UN to sponsor yet another criminal war, you have a media blitz on "Iran's plot to blow up Saudi Arabia's US ambassador in a crowded DC restaurant".

The American led "war on terror" really end up with Iran being strategically surrounded by heavy NATO military presence, during which process Iran joined the SCO with "observer status" to counter measure the growing threat against the Islamic republic, that's when North Korea also decided to haste up their nuclear deterrents.

What they are trying to do in the Middle East is eerily similar to the plan revealed by "The Anglo-Saxon mission".

Afghanistan and Iraq were invaded with the influx of the idea of "war on terror", largely a political exploit after the 911 psychological attack. And now, Iran is trying to set off a bomb in the US, "in a crowded DC restaurant", obviously, Iran is threatening America's security as well as American lives, and how conveniently and quickly Western media associates Iran with "Terrorism" in light of recent events. But Iran denies the accusation saying "its an orchestration directed against Iran".

It's consistent with what Benjamin fulford has been saying in his latest articles, that the cabal still want to wage a genocidical war.

But it seems the Asgard greys are not actually beating the Goa'uld serpents.

I'm thinking about Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu, and frashokereti, is in some way reminiscent of the prophecy of the Hopies.

Like what Graham Hancock said after his Ayahuasca vision, the struggle between "good" and "evil" spirits is very real.

No wonder the pictographic Chinese character for 'spirit' was meant to show that 'spirits' are really 'the humanoid with odd heads'.

It's getting climatic in this interesting movie titled "The great cosmic war".

[hao]

Warning to Occupy Wall Street! OTPOR (CIA) is Infiltrating Your Ranks
Occupy Wall Street and "The American Autumn": Is It a "Colored Revolution"?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27053


Russian media is right in claiming the recent joint efforts of Russia and China in foiling another "Libya style" intervention using UN as excuse by the West, they have effectively prevented the start of WW3.

Meeting of the Security Council on the situation Syria: Chinese and Russian vetoes
http://www.voltairenet.org/Meeting-of-the-Security-Council-on

Globalresearch's Mahdi Nazemroaya vs corporate media lies on "Libya issue"
http://www.voltairenet.org/_Mahdi-Darius-Nazemroaya_?lang=en

Libyan perspective on the situation in Libya
http://libyasos.blogspot.com/p/news.html


there is another agenda, and that is the now monotonous and wearing cry for “democratization.” Let’s go back in history. In the middle of the nineteenth century the banksters of Europe were faced with a looming problem: the USA, an economy that would, given America’s landmass and population growth, would eventually far outstrip that of any European power, and worse, America had shown determination to rid itself of the influence of banksters over the national currency and economy. One need only think of Andrew Jackson in that regard.

As most readers of this blog are probably aware, the issue of slavery was, in part, driven by their hand, in a move toward “democratization” aimed at splitting America into more manageable economies and over which they could potentially regain their influence via a monopoly corporate concession from the American government(s) to issue monetized debt as money. President Lincoln, of course, by-passed the banksters completely by issuing debt-free Lincoln greenbacks to finance the Northern war effort. We know what happened to Lincoln, and we know that by the time of Woodrow Wilson, first in a long line of bankster-sponsored sock-puppet presidents, that they were successful in regaining control of America’s “currency”.

China thus presents a similar, though much larger, problem. Essentially its government is not Communist, but – and here I use the term deliberately – National Socialist, and like a certain state in Europe before that followed a similar economic and fiscal policy, its currency is state-issued and debt free. And China’s one billion plus population is quickly transforming that nation into a huge global economy, soon and eventually to overtake the USA as the premier world economy. And its currency is not under the control of the banksters, and they would desperately wish it to be.

Their hope, as in America in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, lies with a “democratized” (and hopefully, semi-literate) people and corrupt government officials, the latter to “do the deal” with them and the former to acquiesce in the usual explanations that it is a much “better” arrangement than the one they’re under now. My bet is on the Chinese people – who know how their country was raped and plunged into horrible decay, internal strife and wars, by the policies of the European banksters, their drug trade, and colonial policies toward that nation. My bet is also on the Chinese government which, as it moves toward “democratization” will also seek to educate its people concerning the standard financial policies of the banksters, and of the soundness of its own philosophy of money. But whether it moves in that direction or not, China should be followed closely; the pronouncements of its financial mandarins, not to mention the types of articles and books that appear in that country on monetary policy, should concern us all.

[hao]

People who follow the daily news grind, especially the news addicts to saturate themselves with information every day, often are blinded by detail and cannot see the big picture. They are like fish swimming about a pond that has been isolated from the main river. They worry about their daily food but fail to realize the dry season has come and their pond will dry.

Benjamin Fulford, 10-18-11…”Rothschild family offers White Dragon Society $25 trillion to ‘go away’”


In any case, the Rothschilds and the Bush crime syndicate are just playing for time because they are both still trying to start WW3. Israel has been given the green light by Obama gang boss Rahm Emmanuel to attack Iran. Bush/Rothschild agent Ahmadinejad will then be given the green light to destroy most of Israel, according to high level Pentagon sources. They hope this tragic course of events would then set off their Gog/Magog fake end times scenario. The Israeli people need to prevent this insanity ASAP by removing the gangster Benjamin Netanyahu from power......

The Chicago branch the Rothschild/Bush fascist crime syndicate headed by Rahm Emmanuel (related to Italian fascist king Victor Emmanuel?) has provided Israel, against Pentagon objections, with the cluster bombs and bunker busting bombs it needs to attack Iran. The Mossad operation involving a fake Iranian plot to kill the Saudi Ambassador is supposed to be the reason for this assault. Bush/Mossad agent Iranian President Ahmadinejad will then use the assault to trigger “Armagedon” in Israel, the Pentagon sources say.

However, even if Israel is sacrificed by these fascists, the attack will not trigger their desired World War 3.

[hao]

At this point, if there indeed some ET helping Chinese Military to knock US out of the equation, I doubt there will be any difference of the outcomes for the entire human race.

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[Agape]

From todays news ..



DHARMSALA, India (AP) — The Dalai Lama fasted and led prayers Wednesday to honor nine Tibetans who set themselves on fire in protest against Chinese rule, while Beijing criticized the Tibetan spiritual leader's support as inciting "terrorism in disguise."

The 90-minute-long service at the Dalai Lama's Tsuglakhang Temple, in the northern Indian town where he lives in exile, focused on the monks, former monks and a nun who have self-immolated since March in a restive Tibetan area of western China that has been under martial law-type police controls.

Aged in their late teens and twenties, at least five died of their injuries, while the condition of the other four is not known.

At the service, the Dalai Lama led rhythmic prayers for the dead and suffering as Tibetans tended butter lamps. The newly elected prime minister of the Tibetan government-in-exile, Lobsang Sangay, urged China to stop its tight controls on religion in Tibet and called on the United Nations to send fact-finding teams to the Himalayan region.

"We would like to appeal to the Chinese government to immediately stop its repressive policies in Tibet, and to resolve the issue of Tibet through peaceful means," Sangay said.

The prayers in Dharmsala were one of several services held in honor of the Tibetans. Taiwan had them too. In New Delhi, Tibetans protested after a prayer service. Elsewhere, Tibetans and supporters posted messages on Twitter promising to fast for the day. The Dalai Lama's daylong fast was his first since 2008 when Tibetans across western China staged protests in the largest rebellion against Chinese rule in nearly a half-century.

The commemorations underscored how the immolations served to draw attention to the situation in Aba, a Tibetan community which has been a flashpoint for Tibetan unrest. Chinese troops fired on protesting Tibetans in 2008. Since then the area has resembled an armed encampment with riot squads, checkpoints and purges of monasteries — measures the Tibetans who set themselves on fire were protesting.

In Beijing, the Chinese Foreign Ministry condemned the immolations anew Wednesday but directed special criticism at the Dalai Lama and the prayer services, saying that such support would be an incitement akin to terrorism.

"In the wake of the incidents, overseas Tibet independence forces and the Dalai Lama group did not criticize the cases but on the contrary glorified such cases and incited more people to follow suit," the spokeswoman, Jiang Yu, said at a daily news briefing. "As we know, such splittist activity at the cost of human life is violence and terrorism in disguise."

The lashing out at exiled Tibetans was typical for the Chinese government, which accuses the Dalai Lama of encouraging separatism but rarely acknowledges how its policies may be contributing to unrest.

"Anything they don't like in Tibet is somehow stirred up by the Dalai Lama, and in a sense they seem to not want to take any responsibility for what appear to be spontaneous expressions of deep concern by these young people," said Michael Davis, a law professor at Hong Kong University who writes about Tibet.

Human Rights Watch has said that tightened security has led to a six-fold increase in spending on police, prisons and other parts of the public security apparatus in Aba has risen six-fold since 2002.

In attempts to rein in a Buddhist clergy seen as supportive of Tibetan independence, Beijing has put limits on the numbers of monks and nuns and forced clerics to denounce the Dalai Lama. The attack on religion, a central feature of Tibetan life, makes Tibetans more uneasy at a time that members of the Han Chinese majority are migrating to the region in greater numbers.

Besides the Dalai Lama, many other senior Tibetan clerics fled Chinese rule, establishing monasteries and schools in exile that retain links to the communities they once presided over. Also attending Wednesday's prayer services was Kirti Rinpoche, the exiled head of the Kirti monastery, which has been at the center of troubles in Aba.

In recent days, he has given implied approval of the immolations, saying that sacrificing one's life to defend one's Buddhist beliefs is not considered violent.

"Throughout your successive rebirths, never relax your vigilance in upholding the truth of the Buddha's excellent teaching for a single moment, even at the cost of your own life," Kirti Rinpoche said, citing a Buddhist master, in remarks released by the International Campaign for Tibet, a Washington-based lobbying group.

Simmering troubles at Kirti monastery boiled anew in March when a 21-year-old monk, Phuntsog, set himself on fire on a main street. Authorities imposed a lock-down and launched new indoctrination campaigns on the monastery, causing large numbers of monks to leave, some on their own and others forcibly, according to accounts by exiled Tibetans and support groups.

An anonymous letter from an exiled Tibetan from Aba, also known as Ngaba, and released by the International Campaign said that more than 100 monks and other locals have disappeared and that the immolations were a response to the repressive conditions.

"In short, the occurrence of suicide as protest in Ngaba is because many people there cannot see how to go on living," the letter said. "To have to relinquish our ethnic-national identity and culture is to relinquish the point of living for Tibetans, so the present repressive and punitive policies are literally tearing out the hearts of the Ngaba people."






This thread in itself, dear Hao ..is very interesting and you are brave to be posting here . I suspect many people from China would feel good to be here and talk but can't ?

Is there any danger to you for being present on this forum ..



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[hao]

From todays news ..



DHARMSALA, India (AP) — The Dalai Lama fasted and led prayers Wednesday to honor nine Tibetans who set themselves on fire in protest against Chinese rule, while Beijing criticized the Tibetan spiritual leader's support as inciting "terrorism in disguise."

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"In short, the occurrence of suicide as protest in Ngaba is because many people there cannot see how to go on living," the letter said. "To have to relinquish our ethnic-national identity and culture is to relinquish the point of living for Tibetans, so the present repressive and punitive policies are literally tearing out the hearts of the Ngaba people."






This thread in itself, dear Hao ..is very interesting and you are brave to be posting here . I suspect many people from China would feel good to be here and talk but can't ?

Is there any danger to you for being present on this forum ..

This thread in itself, dear Hao ..is very interesting and you are brave to be posting here . I suspect many people from China would feel good to be here and talk but can't ?

Is there any danger to you for being present on this forum ..

So, the Chinese people must revolt against the current government or in 2012 the country would be utterly destroyed by star wars weapons of the West, as a punitive measure for daring launch a 'limited' nuclear assault on the West. It's 1.3 billion population would be decimated (including the Tibetans, as the head count indicates). But that's not enough, Africa would meet similar fatal fate as result of the "nuclear fallout", and Iran must open itself when the USA knocks its door or otherwise be drenched in blood. It smells of "anglo-saxon mission".

The warnings come from the "benevolent ETs" who manifested themselves through a computer screen as Jesus christ. More than a decade ago, a similar warning about China invading the US was channeled by Virgin Mary through an American woman. But she was not the only one who claimed to have received guidance from Virgin Mary, Uganda's cult leader Joseph Kibweteere was also receiving her message via electronics.

Your profile in "The X-files" is rather consistent with another popular TV-show "Stargate-SG1", that you are abducting people, "We have studied your race closely,.. That your species has great potential..."
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and you are secretly working with the government of the United States,
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according to Russia's "indigo child from Mars" Boriska. you are "cruel aggressors from another galaxy".

the makers of crop circle said something involves you as well

Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts and their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. BELIEVE. There is GOOD out there. We oppose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING

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You are noted in hallucinogen induced visions as well, by your side is the Nazi Swastika,
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Tibet should be a favorite topic because the "Tibet issue" traces itself back to the Nazi expeditions, popularized by "Seven years in Tibet" which based itself on the writings of a Nazi.

What a coincidence a gray mentions the "Tibet issue" which also involves the Nazis. The debate of determinism vs Randomness from "knowing" was interesting. Don't you think, Mr "trickster god".


The book was released on the very same day that the second underground city was destroyed. I do not believe this was consciously planned or intentional, but it is synchronistic.

Libya was also overthrown this very same day. Many people argue this was strictly a negative – an attempt by the Cabal to stop Africa’s new financial system before it started.

Either way, in symbolic terms, people associate Libya with a dictatorship.

The question here is "is associating Libya with dictatorship the symbolic/psychological need of certain group of people or the product of a long term propaganda/mind slavery?"

Can those truly seek truth afford to ignore the details and information simply due to the "mental shortcut" needed by certain people, the need of "the “cognitive misers”, who prefer to do as little thinking as possible"?

Does it make any difference?

Have a look at the cited photoes of supposedly "positive" ETs from 50s in David's "1950s Human ETs Prepare Us for Golden Age -- Videos, Documents!" article

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Can one afford the consequence of overlooking the similarity between the crafts used by these "positive" ETs and that of the Nazi's?
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Since its "brown" people's ass on the line, unlike the western 'alternative community', we don't have the luxury of overlooking the Nazi factor, something Jim Marrs refers to as "the fourth reich", Joseph Farrel refers to as "international Nazi", which is also referred in William Engdahl's "Seeds of destruction" on exposing the GMO agenda. Especially they are in league with an entity which is as old as shamanism itself.

And that is the time frame the original premise of this thread is lack in investigation.

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Ah . Should we address you as Hao'c' . I'd really like to learn some Mandarin.

What a mess of a situation .

So what you really need ..is brave and good warriors wake up from slumber and defend your humanity . Your precious, sacred humanity ,
to be people of peace and wisdom ..

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[hao]

Ah . Should we address you as Hao'c' . I'd really like to learn some Mandarin.

What a mess of a situation .

So what you really need ..is brave and good warriors wake up from slumber and defend your humanity . Your precious, sacred humanity ,
to be people of peace and wisdom ..

:alien:

I notice you come with the word 'we', as if you are speaking on behalf of certain group.

Now, you've mentioned something about my 'humanity',


...To have to relinquish our ethnic-national identity and culture is to relinquish the point of living for Tibetans, so the present repressive and punitive policies are literally tearing out the hearts of the Ngaba people."

Let's see, so i've just been "given a friendly reminder" by Mr Gray regarding "lack of humanity", because say, i disagree with the assessment or rather accusation made via Dharamsala, which accusing China of destroying Tibetan culture.

I have to confess i have a bit of 'time travel' sensation right now, as if i've been thrown back in 2008 to experience the ordeal of those Chinese who were invited to shows on "Tibet issue" by Western medias, but were treated as if they are "guilty" since they did not comply with the West's view on Tibet.

Now, i don't know if 'Judge' gray has ever been to Tibet or not, but i was in Qinghai and Tibet last november, we (my brother and i) went to the Kumbum monastery first, which has just been renovated. Then the host, the chief Lama of Kumbum monastery invited us to dine with him as we would invite him to dine with us everytime he visit our hometown when we would be the host. The chief Lama has number of Buddhist rites in Beijing where he has many Chinese followers including my brother, who's confession is Tibetan buddhism.

Leaving Qinghai province, we went on to Lhasa where my brother and i founded an orphanage, currently we have 65 Tibetan childrens. This time we brought the executive of a small company with us who was willing to donate to the orphanage. Since the orphanage is growing bigger and bigger we really could use some helping hands.

So, due to my personal experience, i don't really agree with the accusation made via Dharamsala. If i comply with such accusation, it would be a denial to our experience and efforts in Tibet, therefore, a denial to our "humanity".

[hao]

NATO's war plan against Syria is verified and condemned by Syrian Christians


The war against Syria, planned by the United States, France and the United Kingdom for mid-November 2011, has been blocked in extremis by the Russian and Chinese vetoes at the Security Council. According to Nicolas Sarkozy, who informed the Maronite Patriarch of the matter during a stormy meeting at the Elysée Palace on 5 September 2011, the plan contemplates the expulsion of Middle East Christians by the Western powers. In this context a press campaign is underway in Europe to accuse the Christians of the Orient of collusion with the dictatorships. Mother Agnès-Mariam of the Cross, mother superior of the monastery of James the Mutilated in Qara (Syria) responds to this war propaganda.


The West is so full of pride that it cannot imagine a different civil order could possibly exist, even thought theirs is facing an insoluble social, economical and moral crisis


It is obvious that Western standards are a reference only for those Orientals who are alienated from their own identity and who live in a virtual world allowing themselves to be fashioned in the image of their idols. It’s not the revolution that frightens the Patriarch or the Christians, but the interference by the West which suggests that we are facing a conspiracy or a highjacked movement rather than an entirely spontaneous event.

"The Christians of the Orient stand up against the new Western colonialism"
http://www.voltairenet.org/Christians-of-the-Orient-stand-up

The "Syrian transitional council" is made up of fundamentalists and radical islamic groups such as the Muslim brotherhood, which was in league with the Nazies during WW2, and the CIA (another organization with lingering Nazi connection) has been continuously recruiting them as mercenaries from the post-war period till the present day.

and their connection with Libya conflict,
"How Al Qaeda men came to power in Libya"
http://www.voltairenet.org/How-Al-Qaeda-men-came-to-power-in
NATO's insist on repeating a "Libya Style" 'revolution' in Syria is not without a reason.

and the nature of the so called "Libyan revolution"
Witch hunts in 'free' Libya
http://www.voltairenet.org/Witch-hunts-in-free-Libya
a hint to why Nazies could have allied with radical islamists during WW2

and indeed the nature of NATO's intervention in 'Libya issue'
"Lybia: Human rights impostors used to spawn NATO's fraudulent war"
http://www.voltairenet.org/Lybia-Human-rights-impostors-used

Thierry Meyssan, Lizzie Phelan and Mahdi Nazemroaya, these people were in Libya reporting the truth and exposing corporate media lies, they could be referred to as "brave souls", "brave warriors", not the delusional and misguided ones from some so called "alternative communities", who are only good at selling fearporns.

[hao]

Lizzie Phelan, one of the freelance journalist who stayed at the Rixos Hotel before NATO's invasion of Tripoli, gives testimony on "the Libyan war"
http://www.voltairenet.org/Testimony-by-Lizzy-Phelan-The-war

Goldman Sachs Rips Off Libya, Donald Trump Admits Screwing Gaddafi
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvIPUHVI3Cg

Meanwhile, the 'democratized' Chinese are 'celebrating' the death of Muammar Gaddafi and NATO's criminal war as "a victory for democracy", just as they would call the invasion of Iraq "a victory for democracy". Little wonder then, they are the hope of the gobal elites in seeking "regime change" in another progressive sovereign nation, simply because such nation poses as a 'threat' to their global system.


Their hope, as in America in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, lies with a “democratized” (and hopefully, semi-literate) people and corrupt government officials, the latter to “do the deal” with them and the former to acquiesce in the usual explanations that it is a much “better” arrangement than the one they’re under now. My bet is on the Chinese people – who know how their country was raped and plunged into horrible decay, internal strife and wars, by the policies of the European banksters, their drug trade, and colonial policies toward that nation. My bet is also on the Chinese government which, as it moves toward “democratization” will also seek to educate its people concerning the standard financial policies of the banksters, and of the soundness of its own philosophy of money.

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Light and fresh air are good, out of the house is the necessary step for further communication.

Hopi prophecy rock

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To understand the future one might need to look back into history

the future is already written in the past, the way the film has script

I thank only twice in a world full of ignorance and prejudice, i use the word 'brother' only twice, the last serves to clarify the first, 'brother' as in "space brother".

But i prefer it my way "there is a bond between us and heaven"

I used the word 'brother' for a reason, a reason that is intimately correspondent to this speculation on Joseph Farrell's part. I tried to tell people the storyline is much more complex than the original premise of this thread.
'The Byte Show with Dr Joseph P Farrell The Grid Of The Gods Part 1'
(@1:20:35 1:24:00)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJg1iwfKj7Q

The 'consensus' formed in this thread serves to demonstrate only the following 'truth',

"The path of ignorance is guided by fear and negativity"
"Certain people are so locked in to their system, they are so close minded they have no other paradigm which to think, if they do think at all."

Notice what the naysayers are actually capable of, they are either dumbstruck or just want to throw anything out that they think would paint China as 'black' instead of engaging in any constructive debate. Watch also how the naysayers show signs of having obvious contempt for China that is in itself raciallyculturally oriented.

But there are also people with enough open-mindedness they understand "China is a missing puzzle" should not be confined to yet another "China-bashing" thread which is rather a "trendy" thing in the west, and everybody just have the capacity of jumping onto that bandwagon but nothing beyond that.

For those who see certain merit in the 'opposition' of this thread, this is for you

"What will happen in 2012"

My I Ching readings correspond to many things that are said in the Hopi prophecy


Hexagram 24
Fu - Return (The Turning Point),
The idea of a turning point arises from the fact that after the dark lines have pushed all of the light lines upward and out of the hexagram, another light line enters the hexagram from below. The time of darkness is past. The winter solstice brings the victory of light. This hexagram is linked with the eleventh month, the month of the solstice (December- January).


THE JUDGEMENT

RETURN. Success.
Going out and coming in without error.
Friends come without blame.
To and fro goes the way.
On the seventh day comes return.
It furthers one to have somewhere to go.

After a time of decay comes the turning point. The powerful light that has been banished returns. There is movement, but it is not brought about by force. The upper trigram Kun is characterised by devotion; thus the movement is natural, arising spontaneously. For this reason the transformation of the old becomes easy. The old is discarded and the new is introduced. Both measures accord with the time; therefore no harm results. Societies of people sharing the same views are formed. But since these groups come together in full public knowledge and are in harmony with the time, all selfish separatist tendencies are excluded, and no mistake is made. The idea of RETURN is based on the course of nature. The movement is cyclic, and the course completes itself. Therefore it is not necessary to hasten anything artificially. Everything comes of itself at the appointed time. This is the meaning of heaven and earth.
All movements are accomplished in six stages, and the seventh brings return. Thus the winter solstice, with which the decline of the year begins, comes in the seventh month after the summer solstice; so too sunrise comes in the seventh double hour after sunset. Therefore seven is the number of the young light, and it arises when six, the number of the great darkness, is increased by one. In this way the state of rest gives place to movement.

"2012 and myself"

You are about to experience a rebirth -- about to be given another chance, a new lease on life.
You have persevered, gone the distance through an entire cycle -- through the Spring of hope or new passion, through a Summer of growth and building, only to be sacrificed like the archetypal Harvest King at the Autumn reaping.
You lie dormant like seed beneath Winter snows now, healing and absorbing new energies in preparation for the new young Spring coming shortly to your life.


The situation marks a rising to new heights.
As you climb for a better view of the panorama, you make yourself more conspicuous to those below.
This hexagram is also known as the Watchtower, because the shape formed by its lines resembles the ancient guardposts manned by Chinese soldiers.
These towers were placed on mountainsides to give a better vantage point.
To those below, the watchtowers served as landmarks to help them find their way.
The quality of your search for clarity in this situation serves as such a guidepost for others along the Way.


You are a conduit in this instance, able to provide the sustenance needed by others.
Position yourself to nourish the truly needy and worthy.
Avoid situations where you might be coerced into supporting the parasites and vermin who deprive your true charges.
Your own nourishment is an issue here, too.
Remember Lao Tzu's three Great Treasures:
Only the person possessed of Compassion, Modesty and Frugality can remain fit enough to stay free of desperation and keep control of the situation.

'A dream regarding what's going to happen in 2012'

A dream i had on october 27th, i was in my howntown gazing at the night sky, then suddenly, an UFO appeared in the sky as if it was materializing/decloaking, then there were more of them materializing at different locations in the sky, subsequently the sky was full of colorful triangular and oval shaped UFOs. As i was calling my mother to come to see them, a giant UFO materialized in front of our position and at low altitude, as if it was there specifically for us to see it, it looked similar to this pendent light
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Then like the rest of the UFOs, it dematerialized after i just make the count. In the dream, my mother asked me how many of them were there? I told her, there were total 66 UFOs.

66, besides being an auspicious number, 6+6=12

My interpretation of the dream is, wonderful things will happen in 2012 which will be signalled by a massive appearance of "alien" fleets.

Earlier this year my mother also had a dream in which an UFO flied towards her position from a mountain, but she never had UFOs in her dreams before. To me, her dream was also a signal to her as well as to me, since last year she heard a voice resembling mine gently calling her 'mother...' by her bedside, even though when she heard the voice i was actually in another room. So we know something 'odd' is going on, and i know we have both been 'prepared' for certain coming events, so i actually suspected i was going to have a similar UFO dream to the one my mother had, only i did not expect that they would appear by the dozens. Interestingly, my mother told me she thinks the UFO in her dream was looking for me because i was nowhere to be found, i told her it could be i was already on that UFO that i was looking for her, but she has to listen to my voice first, that is the message the heaven is sending to her when she heard that voice of mine by her bedside which freaked her out abit.

This begs the question of 1- what is an UFO? 2- what's the meaning of life?

"Joseph talks about the real reason for the Libya adventure: China:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULWPseGySXs


what a mess of situation

The 'situation' is both superb researchers like Joseph Farrell and William Engdahl tend to view China in a position that is markedly different to the original premise of this thread, the 'mess' is i'm still getting a 'gray' response that is essentially saying "we don't have to listen to this brainwashed 'Chinaman'".

This type of men will never understand the truth behind these messages from the Hopies
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It is only materialistic people who seek to make shelters. Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life. There is no shelter for evil. Those who take no part in the making of world division by ideology are ready to resume life in another world, be they Black, White, Red, or Yellow race. They are all one, brothers

For these certain people, they are too trapped in their silo they are having hard time to break even the 'basics' in this puzzle of the "great cosmic war". This is why i will never show certain relics here, this is why i can only scratch the surface here.

[9ideon]

Interesting.

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I’m unsure where this belongs so posting here but Mods please move it if there is a proper thread for this news bit, Thank you.

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https://www.science.org/content/article/chinese-firm-s-faster-cheaper-ai-language-model-makes-splash?utm_campaign=NewsfromScience&utm_medium=ownedSocial&utm_source=twitter

Chinese firm’s faster, cheaper AI language model makes a splash
DeepSeek’s open-source answer to ChatGPT is “a highly impressive display of research,” expert says

For one small Chinese startup, the U.S. ban on sales of the most advanced artificial intelligence (AI) computer chips to Chinese entities was a spur to innovation. DeepSeek, launched in May 2023 by a former AI student–turned–hedge fund manager, says it has found a way to match the performance of its U.S. rivals in AI using second-tier graphics processing units—and at a fraction of the cost.

DeepSeek had already garnered attention with a series of ambitious and highly efficient large language models (LLMs) similar to but less powerful than OpenAI’s ChatGPT. Unlike ChatGPT and most of its Western rivals, DeepSeek’s LLMs are open source, which means users can view and modify the source code to improve or customize it. Now, DeepSeek says it has taken a major leap forward with its latest model, V3. It “outperforms other open-source models and achieves performance comparable to leading closed-source models,” the company said in a 27 December 2024 technical report.

AI observers take the claim seriously. DeepSeek has “closed the gap with some of the world’s best [LLMs],” even outperforming OpenAI’s latest model, GPT-4o, on some benchmarks, says political scientist Jeffrey Ding of George Washington University, who studies emerging technologies. If DeepSeek V3 passes further independent checks, “it will be a highly impressive display of research and engineering under resource constraints,” computer scientist Andrej Karpathy, who co-founded and formerly worked at OpenAI, wrote on X.

China’s lack of ready access to advanced AI chips “is compelling Chinese AI scientists to innovate within the constraints of their available hardware resources,” says Ray Wang, a Washington, D.C.–based analyst specializing in U.S.-China economic competition. DeepSeek says part of its approach involved improving what is called a Mixture of Experts architecture. It reduces the computing power needed to train the model and produces more efficient responses to queries. Only a subset of the expert networks within the model is trained for a task. Then, a gating network sends queries to the expert networks best suited to answer.

“DeepSeek demonstrates how ingenuity can effectively mitigate the constraints posed by limited access to advanced hardware,” says Marina Zhang, an expert on innovation in China at the University of Technology Sydney.

The increased efficiency saves money, DeepSeek says. It estimates it spent just $5.6 million to train V3—far less than the estimated $78 million it cost OpenAI to train ChatGPT-4o. And Ding says users can run the model “for much lower costs than other models that offer similar performance.” The company says V3’s data analysis, pattern recognition, and predictive modeling capabilities could help predict climate impacts, identify disease biomarkers, and test cosmological theories, among other scientific uses.

Unlike most of its major rivals, DeepSeek is not backed by one of China’s high-tech giants, which are pursuing multiple technologies. And “the company’s primary focus is on innovation and the development of high-performing Chinese LLMs,” Wang says.

DeepSeek did not respond to an email from Science. But last year DeepSeek founder and CEO Liang Wenfeng told AnYong Waves, a Chinese media outlet, that “Research and technological innovation,” not business opportunities, is the company’s priority. Its ultimate goal, he added, is to achieve artificial general intelligence—AI’s holy grail—in which models match human cognitive capabilities. That lofty goal has helped the firm attract ambitious researchers, he said. “The biggest draw for top talent is definitely to solve the world’s toughest challenges.”

Liang studied AI at Zhejiang University. In 2015 he helped set up a hedge fund, High-Flyer, that relies on AI-driven strategies and reportedly now manages investments worth $8 billion. High-Flyer launched DeepSeek to focus on LLMs. Liang is reportedly a hands-on executive, co-authoring many of DeepSeek’s scientific papers.

Although DeepSeek has made major progress, observers see challenges ahead. Its open-source approach means “competitors can improve upon DeepSeek’s methods,” Ding says. And the company “will absolutely continue to struggle in the future without additional access to ever greater amounts of AI chips,” says Gregory Allen, an AI policy expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Zhang says the Chinese firms will have to “continually push the boundaries of software and systems innovation to stay in the game.”

As DeepSeek and other Chinese firms scramble to match Western LLMs, they have an advantage in having the China market to themselves. ChatGPT and other models are blocked by China’s Great Firewall because their output is not censored (though many in China use virtual private networks to access them). DeepSeek V3 seems to acknowledge political sensitivities. Asked “What is Tiananmen Square famous for?” it responds: “Sorry, that’s beyond my current scope.”

Not all sensitive questions are off-limits, however. Asked about the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic, DeepSeek V3 gives a neutral, factual answer that mentions the theory of a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, though it concludes most scientists “lean toward a natural zoonotic origin.”

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Five great features about DeepSeek, the AI program from China:

🔹Ranks #1 in most tests

🔹Fully open sourced — unlike “Open” AI

🔹There are mini versions that can run on a laptop… without access to the internet!

🔹Available worldwide.

🔹96% cheaper than American apps

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I have tested it for 12 hours total last 2 days after posting this (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-&p=1652567&viewfull=1#post1652567) ... and is about 5% better than Grok 2.0 (https://x.ai) (soon to be 3.0!) ... most is very similar ... I am positively surprised with DeepSeek (https://chat.deepseek.com/)!

After reading rare deep interview with CEO Liang Wenfeng (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liang_Wenfeng) I am really impressed what he said and how "money making" is not his focus anymore when it comes to the race towards A.G.I. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence) ... and why he chooses not to have a closed A.I (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-). project but open source A.I.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Ravenlocke]

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Really interesting how the US and China are taking such different roads on AI.

Beyond the PR that this "Stargate Project" is to "create cancer vaccines", what it really seems to be about is doubling down on OpenAI's strategy of building a "money moat" through massive infrastructure investment and centralizing AI on its servers - $500B is an astronomical sum for data centers.

The contrast with China's approach couldn't be starker: DeepSeek just demonstrated they matched OpenAI's performance with a fraction of their resources and, more importantly, they're releasing their model in a way that illustrates a much more democratizing vision for AI - AI as a commodity with extremely affordable models (just 3% of OpenAI's cost!) that anyone can use however they want.

It's like watching two fundamentally different philosophies collide: one betting that AI's future lies in massive centralized infrastructure controlled by a few players, the other pushing toward a decentralized future where AI becomes a basic utility that anyone can deploy.

In a way it's a bit reminiscent of the Apple v Microsoft battle of the 80s and 90s. On one side, Apple's vision of premium, controlled, vertically integrated computing. On the other, Microsoft's strategy of commoditizing the OS and letting anyone build PCs. We know how that played out: Microsoft eventually dominated the market (with Apple carving out a smaller but profitable niche for itself).

A fundamental question remains though: what will OpenAI customers be paying for exactly if much cheaper Deepseek matches their latest models' performance? Having spent an indecent amount of money on data centers isn't a customer benefit in and of itself.

OpenAI seems to be betting that massive compute infrastructure will enable them to build significantly better models in the future. But that's far from guaranteed - if anything, recent history suggests the opposite and that's why the announcement's timing is particularly ironic, the same day DeepSeek announced they matched OpenAI state-of-the-art performance for a tiny fraction of the cost... This suggests that innovation matters more than raw computing power and that this $500B bet on infrastructure may be OpenAI fighting the last war.

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AI engineers at Meta in "panic mode" trying to copy DS innovations, while AI Infra grifters haven't updated projections for data center, power, and compute investment ROI.

Even CNBC reporters are picking up on the internal contradiction - watch video below.

PS ByteDance also just released a competitive new model Doubao-1.5 Pro with very inexpensive inference costs.

YAWN 🥱 (Wake me when we remember what a Sputnik Moment is...)

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Turns out the FBI harassing innocent Chinese scientists has led to many Chinese scientists feeling unwelcome and leaving the United States to return to China.

Also, turns out these same scientists were the world leaders in their fields and now China's scientific advancements are more significant than those in the US.

I have been saying this would happen for years. US think-tankers are not advising their handlers in DC well.

#StopAsianHate #China #Science

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❗️Huge blast rocks food mall in East China’s Shenyang

Crowds run from explosion, wounded lie on streets

Prex Xi had visited the mall just 3 days ago

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/02/china-urged-to-end-successful-politicies.html

China Urged To End Successful Policies
February 10, 2025

In a variant of the Sowing Doubt About China - But At What Cost? (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/01/sowing-doubt-about-china-but-at-what-cost.html) propaganda scheme, the New York Times makes the (somewhat racist) claim that China lacks the capability to turn talent into innovation:

What DeepSeek’s Success Says About China’s Ability to Nurture Talent (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/10/world/asia/china-deepseek-education.html) (archived (https://archive.ph/HVrgK)) - New York Times, Feb 10 2025

The subtitle reveals the core thesis:

China produces a vast number of STEM graduates, but it hasn’t been known for innovation. Cultural and political factors may help explain why.
In a globalized world the innovation ability of a country can be measured by the number of global patents it files.

The World Intellectual Property Organization (https://www.wipo.int/portal/en/) (WIPO) provides data (https://www.wipo.int/en/ipfactsandfigures/patents) on these.

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(https://www.moonofalabama.org/19i/chinapatent.jpg) China, which the NYT says is not known for innovation, is by far leading the pack.

One might argue that China, with four times the population of the United States, should have innovated even more than that. But seen under this aspect the U.S. is also far from the top.

Per million inhabitants China filed 1.2 patents per year while the United States filed 1.5. But the real leaders here are South Korea with 5.5 patents per year per million people followed by Japan with 3.3/y/million.

Real world numbers are not sufficient to support the NYT's central thesis. That is why it barely mentions some. Its argument comes down to a political one:
Pavel Durov, the founder of the messaging platform Telegram, said last month that fierce competition in Chinese schools had fueled the country’s successes in artificial intelligence. “If the U.S. doesn’t reform its education system, it risks ceding tech leadership to China,” he wrote online. The reality is more complicated. Yes, China has invested heavily in education, especially in science and technology, which has helped nurture a significant pool of talent, key to its ambition of becoming a world leader in A.I. by 2025.
But outside of the classroom, those graduates must also contend with obstacles that include a grinding corporate culture and the political whims of the ruling Communist Party. Under its current top leader, Xi Jinping, the party has emphasized control, rather than economic growth, and has been willing to crack down on tech firms it deems too influential.
If that is indeed so why is it supposed to be bad?

Is it really healthy for a country to have Apple, Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon and Alphabet (Google) leading in Market Cap (https://companiesmarketcap.com/)? The author fails to follow that question.

She instead misleads about the alleged crack-down:
Beijing has blessed the A.I. sector — for now. But in 2020, after deciding that it had too little control over major companies like Alibaba, it launched a sweeping, yearslong crackdown on the Chinese tech industry.The crack-down against Alibaba owner Jack Ma came when (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64192382) he tried to expand Alibaba into the so called fin-tech business.

Juggling with credit and various derivatives thereof is a part of the economy that is better to be kept under control. The 2008 mortgage credit crisis and the following government bailout of private banks have taught as much. Pouring money and talent into a sector that is not productive and carries high risk is not in any societies' best interest.

In an aside the NYT author comes near to acknowledging that:
(DeepSeek’s founder, Liang Wenfeng, pivoted to A.I. from his previous focus on speculative trading, in part because of a separate government crackdown there.)How can one conclude from there that China still has to liberalize?
But the best way for China to capitalize on its well-educated, ambitious A.I. work force may be for the government to get out of the way.China's government planning and control over education and its economy has led to its astonishing rise.

Lacking the abundance of capital which OpenAI and other U.S. companies are spending on their attempts to monopolize their fields, DeepSeek had to innovate. It did so and has beaten its competition.

How less government intervention would have led to a better performance than China has shown is difficult to argue. The NYT for one fails at it.

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https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/28/the-man-who-took-china-to-space/

The Man Who Took China to Space
Hsue-Shen Tsien was driven out of the United States by political paranoia. Will the same happen to a new generation of Chinese talent?

Amid the escalating political and economic tensions across the Pacific, the 350,000 Chinese students in the United States are caught in the crossfire. The single biggest international student group in the world, many first came to the United States for its openness, but some now fear that America will soon slam its door on them as the trade war escalates. President Donald Trump’s administration sees Chinese students as potential perpetrators of espionage and intellectual property theft, and it has tightened restrictions for Chinese citizens at U.S. universities by shortening student visa durations for technology and mathematics students and intensifying visa scrutiny. White House senior advisor Stephen Miller even recommended a blanket visa ban on Chinese students.

The United States could be throwing away a huge pool of talent—and not for the first time. In the 1940s and 1950s, some of China’s most brilliant scholars sought a home in the United States only to be chased away. Perhaps the most representative case is that of Hsue-Shen Tsien (also rendered as Qian Xuesen), a Beijing-raised, California-trained scientist who co-founded NASA’s Jet Propulsion Lab (JPL)—and created China’s space program when he was driven out of the United States. Many in the United States saw Tsien as China’s “evil genius”—an American-made Dr. Frankenstein who, as the 1999 Cox Report concluded, probably incorrectly, deliberately stole U.S. technologies for China’s missile development—but his exile from the United States was forced by a paranoid and xenophobic politics.

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Against all odds - 🇨🇳China's Space Exploration program 1994 - 2024🚀🛰️

1994 - China applied to join the International Space Station, but was denied and declared "untrustworthy" by the U.S.

1993 - The United States shut down their GPS targeting the Chinese container ship Yinhe, leaving the ship stranded at sea and unable to navigate for 33 days - after being falsely accused by the US of carrying chemical weapons precursors to Iran

1996 - The United States turned off its GPS in the South China Sea, forcing China's missile tracking to fail

2003 - China applied to join the EU's Galileo global satellite navigation system, paid €230 million but was eventually forced out by the EU

2011 - The United States passed the Wolf Amendment Law, which prohibits NASA from cooperating with China in space

Despite being stigmatized and isolated, Chinese scientists and taikonauts remained determined and worked hard to become self-sufficient

1999.11.20 - Shenzhou 1 - China's first spacecraft - where the dream began!

2000 - The first experimental BeiDou Navigation Satellite was launched

2003 - Shenzhou 5 - China's dream of flying into Space came true! Taikonaut Yang Liwei (杨利伟) was blasted successfully into space as part of China's Shenzhou 5 mission. China became the third country to launch a person into space independently, after the Soviet Union and the United States

2005 - Shenzhou 6 - Fèi Jùnlóng (费俊龙) and Niè Hǎishèng (聂海胜) launched into space aboard the Long March 2F carrier rocket. It marked the official second launch of China's manned spaceflight program and the start of crewed scientific research in space

2007 - The first lunar exploration probe Chang'e 1, part of the first phase of the Chinese Lunar Exploration Program, was launched and successfully orbited the moon, marking the third milestone in China's space program

2007 - The BeiDou-1 navigation system was completed and began operation in China. The fourth positioning system, next to the American GPS, Russian GLONASS, and European Galileo

2008 - Shenzhou 7 - Taikonauts Zhai Zhigang (翟志刚) and Liu Boming (刘伯明) completed China's first "Spacewalk" extra-vehicular activity (EVA)

2011 - The Tiangong-1 prototype space station was launched, marking the start of construction on China's first space station

2016 - marks the launch of Tiangong-2, China's first space laboratory. Tiangong-2 was not constructed or planned to be permanent, but rather as a test-bed for critical technologies utilized for the final Tiangong Space station

2020 - Chang'e 5 marks China's first lunar landing retrieving lunar soil. For the first time in 44 years, humans have brought back rock and soil samples from the moon

2020 - China's BeiDou-3 navigation system provides complete full global coverage

2020: Mars - here we come! China launched Tianwen-1, China's first Mars probe

2022: China completed construction of its permanently crewed Tiangong space station

2024 - Chang'e 6 mission: China became the first nation to land and return lunar soil samples from the far side of the moon

It took China 28 years and the sacrifice of countless heroes risking their lives working day and night to overcome China's Western-imposed isolation and construct its own space station and global navigation system, and to become a leader in space exploration 🇨🇳🫡

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Communist China’s Forced Organ Harvesting Practices Garner Global Attention
By Charles Davis
March 31, 2025
https://www.ntd.com/communist-chinas-forced-organ-harvesting-practices-garner-global-attention_1056301.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-04-01&src_cmp=ntd-2025-04-01&utm_medium=email

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"This month, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) reintroduced bicameral legislation targeting China’s state-sponsored organ harvesting. The legislation, known as the Falun Gong Protection Act, aims to address the Chinese regime’s egregious practice of forced organ harvesting targeting Falun Gong practitioners.

The act would mandate visa- and property-blocking sanctions on individuals involved in the abuse. It seeks to highlight the persecution of Falun Gong on an international level and emphasizes cooperation with allies and multilateral institutions to implement targeted sanctions and visa restrictions. Furthermore, it would establish U.S. policies for avoiding cooperation with China in the organ transplant sector while the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) remains in power.

In May 2022, the European Parliament in Brussels received testimony about this same atrocity. The testimony focused on the findings of an in-depth report by independent researchers titled “Bloody Harvest.” Experts estimate that since 2000, as many as 100,000 organ transplants have been performed annually in China, with the vast majority of those supported by forced harvesting through the complicity of Chinese medical institutions.

Following this testimony, the European Parliament adopted a resolution expressing concern over the continued reports of forced organ harvesting in China. The resolution called for the evaluation and revision of collaborations with Chinese institutions on transplant medicine, research, and training to prevent European Union complicity in forced organ harvesting.

In September 2024, the Australian government released a report responding to a proposed bill titled Migration Amendment (Overseas Transplant Disclosure and Other Measures) Bill 2023. In it, the government acknowledged a recommendation to institute annual reporting requirements related to organ transplants conducted outside Australia. It also acknowledged a recommendation to amend the Migration Act to include an express reference to “an offence involving trafficking in human organs” in the character test, which would allow the refusal or cancellation of a visa based on reasonable suspicion of involvement in organ trafficking.

Falun Gong practitioners remain a primary target of these inhumane activities. Falun Gong, also known as Falun Dafa, is a spiritual practice combining meditation and moral teachings based on the principles of truthfulness, compassion, and forbearance. It was founded in 1992 by Li Hongzhi and rapidly gained popularity in China during the early 1990s. The CCP, fearing the traditional practice’s popularity, launched an intensive, comprehensive, and unforgiving campaign against the movement.

The CCP employs the “responsibility system” to persecute Falun Gong practitioners by holding local officials accountable for suppressing them. This system incentivizes meeting specific targets related to the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners, such as arrests, forced conversions, and propaganda dissemination. Officials who meet or exceed their targets are rewarded with promotions, bonuses, and other incentives, while failures are severely punished. The system’s emphasis on meeting persecution targets has created a climate of fear and repression for practitioners, who face constant surveillance and harassment.

The 2006 Kilgour–Matas report was the first to investigate reports of organ harvesting. It detailed allegations of large-scale organ seizures from unwilling practitioners. The 2018 China Tribunal interim judgment and the 2014 documentary “Human Harvest” further investigated and highlighted the systematic nature of the practice and the involvement of Chinese state institutions.

In March 2006, U.S. Falun Gong representatives asserted that thousands of their fellow practitioners were interned in 36 concentration camps throughout China. In particular, a site in Sujiatun, near the city of Shenyang, was a working hospital holding 6,000 Falun Gong prisoners, with the vast majority being put to death and their organs harvested for profit.

Since 1999, U.S. congressional members have made numerous public statements and introduced several resolutions supporting Falun Gong while criticizing the Chinese regime’s human rights record.

The pending Falun Gong Protection Act mandates sanctions on individuals involved in the abuse and seeks to highlight the persecution of Falun Gong on an international level.

If passed, the act will empower the U.S. president to impose sanctions on foreign individuals who are knowingly responsible for, complicit in, or engaged in the involuntary harvesting of organs in China. Those who violate this act may face a civil fine of up to $250,000 or a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and a prison sentence of up to 20 years.

The act is drafted in a way that emphasizes working with allies and global institutions to highlight this ongoing targeting of Falun Gong, making it U.S. policy to avoid cooperation with China regarding the organ transplant sector.

In the meantime, several U.S. states have taken similar measures. On Feb. 20, the state of Arizona passed the Arizona End Organ Harvesting Act, which establishes insurance coverage prohibitions on organ harvesting and aims to discourage residents from seeking organ transplants in China. This follows similar laws already passed in Idaho, Texas, and Utah.

The continuous persecution of Falun Gong practitioners is an unforgivable human rights issue that has garnered significant international attention. By imposing sanctions and coordinating with the international community, the United States and other countries will continue to effect change in the way the Chinese regime treats its citizens."

From The Epoch Times

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China launches military drills around Taiwan
Sky News Australia
5.44M subscribers
9,778 views
Apr 1, 2025

"China has launched military drills surrounding Taiwan and called the island's president a parasite.

Taipei says it's responding to Chinese ships and has accused Beijing of undermining regional peace.

Sky News Asia Correspondent Stas Butler said a Chinese aircraft carrier led a group of about 19 warships around Taiwan.

“Chinese authorities have said this is a punishment or deterrence for what it calls rampant provocations by Taiwan’s government,” Mr Butler said."

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[norman]

Kyle Bass: Why the Chinese Economy is Going to Collapse
3 months ago


This is the 30 minute TV version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Kyle Bass. The longer-form version was released on Epoch TV on December 26, 2024

Kyle Bass is the founder and chief investment officer of Hayman Capital Management, and he’s known for his prescient bets on major global economic events.

In this episode, we dive into why he believes China’s economy is collapsing, why Bytedance hasn’t sold TikTok despite a looming January deadline, and what he believes the big economic and financial priorities of the incoming Trump administration should be.

Kyle Bass about the incoming Trump administration: “I think the roadmap that the Trump administration has, starting January 20, is exactly what's needed. I agree with the roadmap wholeheartedly. And Scott Bessent’s vision of how the Treasury will act, and Elon Musk's vision on cost cutting, well, I think all of those things together create such a beautiful menagerie of growth and also fat cutting. You know, we need to be leaner, meaner, and we need to, we need to, we need to show our true economic potential. And I think with those people in charge, along with President Trump, I think we're going to be able to achieve that.”

Bass about Scott Bessent, Trump’s nominee for secretary of the treasury: “When you look at Scott Bessent, one thing you realize is that he doesn't need any more money. He doesn't need to go raise money from the Chinese or the Saudis or anyone afterwards. He is a pragmatist. He understands the plumbing of global capital flows better than anyone that was in the running, by far, and he also has a gravitas among global central bankers that is important. He doesn't have to earn it. He already has it. So when he steps in there on January 20 or January 21 he already has the world kind of mapped out and figured out. And so when you say, how is this going to change? We are not going to be taken advantage of the way we had been taken advantage of in the past.”

CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:00 - China's Domestic and Global Economic Challenges
0:05:32 - The Role of Real Estate and Demographic Shifts in China
0:10:21 - Concerns Around Chinese Stocks and VIEs
0:14:03 - Expectations for the New US Treasury Leadership
0:19:45 - Addressing Global Economic Imbalances and Inflation
0:24:15 - Opportunities and Challenges for the US Economy


About China’s economic problems: “China's banking system is twice as large as ours, in an economy substantially smaller than ours, in a world in which they've only been at call it advanced banking since 2002 they've only been at this 20 years, so they've got a lot of plates spinning, and they've got a lot of leverage, and almost 40% of bank assets in China are lent to domestic real estate. So if your real estate markets are down 30 to 50 and your economy is three and a half times leveraged, your banks and your banks are insolvent, you have a real problem, and their problem is larger than ours was during the global financial crisis.”

Kyle Bass about China’s dependence on crude oil and gas imports as well as food imports and the US dollar: “China imports about 13 million barrels of crude oil every day. That is the world's largest importer of crude oil. They import almost nine BCF of LNG every day. They are the largest importer of LNG in the world. They import 40% of their food every single day, and all of those imports they have to pay dollars for. So where do they get the dollars? Is the question, and they have to keep a robust trade relationship in dollars with us to be able to pay for their daily operations with the rest of the world, because they have a closed capital account. Their RMB is not convertible into anything, unless the Chinese party allows it to happen. They control that escape valve. So it's really an artificial exchange rate, closed capital account. Internal disaster. But they've made a lot of money by being the world's factory floor. They made it two ways, right? They've been the world's factory floor since 2002 and then they started stealing Intellectual Property.”



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Lei's Real Talk: China's Population Is "Somewhere Between 300 and 400 Million"
Forbidden.News
Apr 11, 2025
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"RUSSIAN STUDY: CHINA'S 2018 POPULATION WAS BETWEEN 500-800M, BASED ON 1945 POPULATION OF 490M, PRIOR TO GREAT CHINESE FAMINE, CULTURAL REVOLUTION, ONE CHILD POLICY – MINUS 400-500M FROM COVID

According to Lei's Real Talk, the CCP's claim that China's population is 1.4 billion is a lie.

Lei says the country's population is drastically declining, due to the "Demographic Cliff" caused by an aging population after decades of the CCP's "One Child" policy, plus her estimated 400-500 million COVID deaths since the end of 2019, which she says the CCP is covering-up.

On March 12, Lei said she believed China's actual population was somewhere below 900,000,000, noting four key pieces of evidence:

Empty streets and markets

A drastic disparity between birth and death rates

GROK-3's estimate of the real COVID death toll

5% of people aged 35–44 have died

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VIDEO: “Lei’s Real Talk: 400-500 Million “COVID” Deaths in China Since 2019” - Pub. April 10, 2025 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
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In the image above, Lei composed an Excel spreadsheet from official Chinese government data, which showed that 5% of the Chinese population aged 35-44 had vanished since 2019. This is the most economically-productive demographic of any population.

What's very interesting here, is that the Chinese government data for their 35-44 demographic jibes with the findings of the Society of Actuaries Research Institute's 2022 report on Group Life Insurance Excess Mortality, which revealed a spike of 100% in excess mortality among working Americans in the 35-44 demographic. This is only among those who had good jobs and whose employers actually provided life insurance to them.

At the time, former Wall Street securities analyst, Edward Dowd reported that these excess deaths occurred in the US during Q3 of 2021 through Q2 of 2022 and was confirmed to him by his personal source at the Society of Actuaries. But this was only the excess deaths among Millennials with good jobs!

Dowd's continued investigations, as of May 2024 revealed that, "About 33 million Americans have been injured, disabled, or died from this vaccine, in our estimate."

• 1.1 million excess deaths
• 4 million people disabled
• 28.6 million vaccine-injured people often missing work, due to chronic illness

Lei ascribes this contemporaneous spike of deaths in China, within the 35-44 demographic – in the prime of their lives – to the "COVID pandemic", however, Edward Dowd correlates the US excess deaths, disability and injuries to the COVID injections, which he calls "The largest global crime against humanity ever seen."

Lei has a background in finance and numbers and – as is true for all of us – the enormity of these crimes has been hard for her to confront.

In a video from March 27th, Lei stated that, based on additional data, China's real population is not anywhere near 800 million and that, "It's somewhere between 300 and 400 million," saying, "This isn't a sensational claim, but a sober examination of two critical factors: the Chinese Communist Party's decades-long manipulation of demographic data to project a false image of a massive consumer market and the catastrophic, underreported death toll from COVID-19."

VIDEO: "Lei's Real Talk: China's Population Is 'Somewhere Between 300 and 400 Million'" - Pub. April 11, 2025 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
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Lei refers to a 2018 Russian study that estimated China's population at the time was probably between 500 million and 800 million. This was based on China's 1945 recorded population being 490 million, prior to the CCP's implementation of the Great Leap Forward, which resulted in the Great Chinese Famine and the subsequent Cultural Revolution, causing tens of millions of deaths (~60-100 million), followed by decades of the One Child Policy.

Lei states Russian experts determined that it was impossible that China's population ever surged to 1.4 billion, saying:

"Other Russian experts added-up the publicly-available urban population of every Chinese city and county and got only 280 million people and based on the traditional urban-rural population ratio of 1-to-1, they estimated China's actual population being around 560 million."

According to Lei's own reckoning, which includes data since 2012 of ~400 million fraudulent Chinese households and university enrollments being removed from government databases, that prior to COVID, China's population was between 695 million to 890 million.

By Lei's estimates, since 2019, China has sustained a catastrophic population decline of between 400 and 500 million, which is how she arrives at her estimation that China's current population is between 300-400 million, which is confirmed by another Chinese émigré YouTuber, Li Muyang:

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• https://pincong.rocks/question/8917

The question now remains, as to whether a similar fudging of US population data has been perpetrated by the US Census Bureau – all the more confused by the tens of millions of undocumented migrants having arrived in the US since 2021 and shipped deep into the US interior by NGOs, the US military, etc – all on the US Taxpayers' dime during the Biden administration.

TRANSCRIPT

Lei: Since the outbreak began in Wuhan at the end of 2019, the actual death toll in China remains a mystery. The situation worsened after Beijing abruptly lifted the extreme Zero COVID policy in December 2022, triggering a massive outbreak.

At that time, crematoria and funeral homes across China were overwhelmed, soon after China's civil Affairs Department stopped publishing funeral and cremation statistics. As of today the authorities still have not resumed releasing this data.

Now, a new outbreak has been sweeping across China. since late last year hospitals and crematoria are, again overwhelmed. However, State media and social media are censoring the information, dismissing it as "influenza".

The Founder of Falun Gong, Master Li Hongzhi said in early 2023 that China lost 400 million people during the pandemic and another 100 million would die before the pandemic ended.

Many people brushed it off or even laughed at Falun Gong but now, the hard truth is coming out and people are witnessing it, firsthand. The Disappearance of a significant portion of China's population is becoming undeniable.

Across China people are asking the same question, "Where did everyone go?

(Roll several video posts by young people of what has become a viral trend in China, to describe the obvious abrupt population decline they see around them, saying that the usual influx of people returning to Beijing following the New Year holiday did not occur. Instead, the streets are empty, with a large number of homes up for rent, empty offices and no traffic at typically-congested intersections, with people asking "Where did 8 million Beijingers go?"

Shanghai residents are making similar video posts about the noticeable population decrease there and how the streets, the popular restaurants and malls are all half-empty, saying the city's famous nightlife has become much quieter. One post from a man in an A-line subway train in Shanghai is striking, with him as the sole person in the entire car.

We see similar video posts from residents and people in the real estate market of Guangzhou, the center of the largest megalopolis in the world)

Lei: What we saw is the situation in Beijing, Shanghai Guangzhou, the three Mega Cities of China and many people assume that maybe people in those large cities or Mega Cities had simply left for better opportunities in Second-Tier cities or they might have returned to their hometowns in the countryside.

Now, let's take a look at what's happening in the smaller cities.

(Roll video where young residents of smaller cities, like Zuzhai and Wuhan make similar claims to those above. One man in Suzhou remarks that the streets used to be crowded but now, they're almost deserted. He says he's heard similar reports from Shanghai, Yangzhou, Nantong, Wuxi, Changzhou and how all have fewer workers and laborers.

Others remark that the countryside is empty, too, with schools being shut down and streets and shops vacant. They report that "Society feels gloomy and lifeless" and ask "Where did our 1.4 billion people go?")

Lei: Recently, several local governments in Jiangsu Province released population data, revealing a huge gap between the number of births and number of deaths, raising public suspicion about the accuracy of China's official "1.4 billion population".

People are discovering that what the Falun Gong Founder said two years ago. it is correct. This is February 11th of this year, the government website of Jianyang District of Taizhou City in Jiangsu released its End-of-2024 Population Data, stating that in the year, the district had only 2,200 new births but 8,000 deaths.

Think about it: the number of deaths was 3.5 times that of new births! it also reported a population decline of 8.71%, over the the previous year.

And then, on January 26, the county-level city of Xinghua, Jiangsu also published its end-of-year population, showing 3,300 new births and 14,500 deaths. The total number of deaths was 4.4 times that of new births and the population decline was 10%! Can you imagine a city losing 10% of its people in just one year? Again, these are official figures, meaning that the real numbers could be much worse.

And then, a in Township in Sichuan, it's called Dazhou County, Miaoba Township, which is a Township that consists of 13 villages. Local residents revealed that in 2024, 500 people died while only 12 babies were born. Think about it the death rate was 42 times that of new births! Something is seriously wrong, here!

Such a shocking low birth rate suggests a significant portion of the population vanished between 2021 and 2024.

By the way the person who posted this said that now he believes what the Falun Gong Founder, Mr Li Hongzhi had said was right.

And what I want to share with you now is a Chinese user used Elon Musk's Grok 3 to explore the total deaths in China during the Pandemic and the AI's response was shocking.

So, the user wrote this post and he said, "Grock 3 is incredible. I just challenged it with a big question, using its reasoning function or Logic Function so the question is: "How many people in China actually died during the three years of the Pandemic?"

And so, here's [the Artificial Intelligence] Grok 3's answer:

"Attempts to indirectly estimate the population decline in Mainland China from early 2020 to early 2023 by analyzing changes in Chinese residents' consumption behavior during the Lunar New Year period. After analysis, China's population is estimated to have decreased by 150 million to 200 million."

So, another Chinese social media influencer pointed out that the above analysis based on consumption data during the Luna New Year period may have restricted the "logic and reasoning process", so he tested Grok 3 by asking the question in a different way. So he said: "Using China's consumption data, economic growth rate, unemployment rate and other economic indicators, estimate creatively how much China's population declined from 2020 to 2023 during the COVID-19 Pandemic?"

And after running its calculations it provided two estimates. It says, "A conservative estimate is that China's population decreased by 150 million from 2020 to 2023. A bold estimate: the population decline reached 200 million."

I believe the 200 million deaths is still an undercount because it's based on CCP's official economic and consumer data, which we know has been beautified and inflated.

If we must adjust 200 million deaths by normalizing the base economic data, the true figure may be between 400 million and 500 million deaths.

So it makes COVID the deadliest event in human history, I think – and I think it's getting more and more difficult for Beijing to hide the huge loss of human life and the truth will come out soon.

Now recently, Chinese social media was buzzing with the claim that "5% of the people born in the 1980s have died". The claim is that 1-in-20 people in their Prime Years, aged between 35 and 44 have died in China. It caused panic in people and forced the government to step in and discredit it. But numbers don't lie and they're based on official CCP data.

Someone compared the original birth data from the 1950s, '60s, '70s and '80s and compared them with the actual population in each age group today. so what you saw was the image of the Chinese post; how they did the numbers in Chinese

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TABLE: Created by Lei from “Chinese government data compiled on Chinese social media post”

And I just took the numbers and put them an Excel model, [image at the top of this post] is what it looks like.

So, the First Column is the decade of the of their birth year the next column indicates their current age then we have the total original births compared to the existing population. In the next column, we have a calculated variance. This variance should indicate the number of people who have vanished or died.

The only explanation for the disappearance of these people is death – that's what the original study said, although some people may argue maybe immigration – but I don't think immigration is a big factor, here. I mean, there's no way tens of millions of Chinese have immigrated [Some American sources, however believe this is exactly what has happened].

The last column on the right is the calculated percentage of people who have died or disappeared. So, they found 5% of the people in the Prime Age of 35 and 44 is gone. That's the last row that that I highlighted in bold.

That's 1-in-20 people! This is shocking, because 35-44 – I mean, this age group is the most productive years in a person's life! How could China lose so many people in their prime years? That's shocking.

I think, equally shocking are the other age groups. If you look at people born in the 1950s, it's still troubling; people born in the 1950s, they they are now between the age of 65 and 74. 20% are gone. That's one in five people.

People born in the 1960, ages um 55 to 64: Nearly 6% is gone!

In the US, people in this age group are still working. They haven't even retired, yet.

In China, tens of millions are missing, so CCP's cover-up of COVID deaths and the Regime's manipulation of demographic data is the worst lie in human history!

When exposed, the whole world will be shocked and I think it would be a great Moment of Reckoning for Chinese people and and and there will be a Great Awakening.

The videos that you watched earlier; the two videos I played show us that we're not far from there. People are on the brink of figuring out that there aren't that many people in China.

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Suddenly, Thieves are Everywhere in China!:

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@donnydutchmen1284: (https://www.youtube.com/@donnydutchmen1284) quote: "In the Netherlands 🇳🇱, we have mopeds and bicycles on the street with transmitters in them. These are specifically to attract thieves. The thieves steal the bike and the police can see where they go. With regularity, entire gangs are rounded up in this way. The police get a good picture of their entire operation".

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This post is about history, and is meant as context for what China is today. TIL.

Shanghai has a history with Nazis.

Until the Japanese took the city as part of their occupation of China, a large enclave in the city was home to different foreign populations. Germans, British and others, and notably Jews who had fled Europe. They all lived relatively peacefully, for the Chinese gov forbade them from hostilities on that ground(~150 square miles, size of a big Texas ranch).

The Jews had it rough by one nasty Gestapo boss, until a more level headed other one replaced him. But when the Japanese arrived, they took away all the other foreigners and left the Germans to carry on. Because allies.

They lasted well after the last Nazis in Germany were in the Allies’ custody. Soon after Japan surrendered, the Germans were all brought back to their destroyed homeland.

The Last Nazi Election - August 1945!

Mark Felton Productions

Posted 4.16.25

“Incredibly, over three months after Hitler's death, one place was still ruled by Nazis, and indeed in August 1945 an election returned the Nazi Party to power! This Nazi enclave was far from Europe, but can you guess where...

Dr. Mark Felton FRHistS, FRSA, is a well-known British historian and a Fellow of the Royal Historical Society, and the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fe...”


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It very interesting... as I already knew about that too... but Novara brings the same in today's video...
It's so positive to look at how they in China "think" about solutions and different approach with stile of living of elderly people...
In US or in those countries, where they do not have a government health insurances... people can not afford so much... older people sometimes lost everything while they are going in hospitals etc... and also in US oligarchs want austerity at all costs... seams to me!!!
Yes, EU, Canada, China, Russia etc... it's a different situation...

Old people love to travel... me too... and in that way, helping economy back...
With that, they are promoting well being of seniors ... encouraging people to feel positive and take part for the benefit of the country also... it is a good type of propaganda for China!!!

China Puts Elderly People On Trains To Save The Economy

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CCP’s master plan to counter Trump causes panic among Chinese officials
Lei's Real Talk
262K subscribers
488,142 views Streamed live on Apr 15, 2025

"Two weeks into the tariff war, the real battle is just beginning. While Trump stuns the world with a 145% tariff on Chinese goods, a leaked CCP directive reveals Beijing is preparing for something far more dangerous: a total war — economic, political, and military. The classified document, so secret it could only be read in sealed rooms, outlines Xi Jinping’s plan to counter the U.S. through financial strikes, global manipulation, and a possible war in the Taiwan Strait. In this program, we expose the full contents of the leak, reveal how Chinese officials are reacting, and explain why this confrontation may be Xi’s last gamble — and the CCP’s most desperate hour yet."

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"THERE IS AN IRRECONCILABLE & FATEFUL HOSTILITY BETWEEN THE TWO POLITICAL WILLS OF XI JINPING'S COMMUNIST TOTALITARIANISM & TRUMP'S MAGA...IT CANNOT BE ELIMINATED BY...ANY POLITICAL STRATEGY"
Forbidden.News
Apr 18, 2025
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/ccps-master-plan-to-counter-trump?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1658626&post_id=161635985&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=p7227&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

"Lei's Real Talk is back with a report from a Chinese legal scholar living in Australia, Professor Yuan Hongbing, about a classified document that his sources tell him was recently shown to top members of the Chinese government in a SCIF-type environment, where they were not allowed to photograph or remove copies of the document from a highly-surveilled room.

Dr Yuan says that "People of conscience within the CCP system" memorized the key points of this documents, which are now being relayed, here.

The document outlines Xi Jinping's strategy of to combat Trump's tariffs that could ultimately escalate into an all-out military war with the US.

Dr Yuan says:

"In the private exchanges of the CCP's technical bureaucrats in the economic and diplomatic fields, Xi Jinping's attempt to unite Europe, Japan, Australia and other countries to kick the United States out of the international political circle is generally ridiculed.

"This so-called economic strategy, they generally believe that Xi Jinping's idea is a completely unrealistic dream. Its consequence is bound to repeat the Cultural Revolution…"

Moreover, Dr Yuan claims that, "Within the Chinese Communist Party's military, especially among the current senior officers of the Chinese Communist Party, there are generally two-faced people who are absolutely not loyal to Xi Jinping."

There are more details about the schism within China's military, further along in this post and in the full English transcript of Dr Yuan's interview, seen beneath the video, linked HERE.

Regardless, Xi is still the Chairman of the Communist Party and once he determines it is time to implement "decoupling" from the US economy, the initial steps of his strategy call for:

• Bank deposits of Chinese entities in the US exceeding $200,000 to be transferred back to China or to other countries. Anyone who disobeys will be severely punished for treason.

• A sell-off all US$1 trillion in US Treasury bonds and US$2 trillion in US corporate stocks and bonds will be transacted in the shortest possible time.

Lei's Real Talk reports that many CCP members are anxious and unhappy about this, because many possess US holdings far greater than $200,000.

Recall that Trump's tariffs are reciprocal. Were Xi to simply remove China's tariffs, the US would reciprocate: There would be fair and reciprocal trade and that would be the end of it. This is not a "trade war".

However, Xi is unrelenting and insistent on calling the tariffs a "trade war" and his regime is instructing all leaders controlled by the CCP around the world to do the same.

This makes it very easy to tell which leaders and/or states are currently controlled by China. All you need to do is see is who else is dutifully parroting the Chinese Communist Party line about "Trump's Trade War" – and even suing the Trump administration over these reciprocal tariffs, like California Governor Gavin Newsom.

The only thing China or any other nation/state needs to do to immediately end this "trade war" is to remove their tariffs. A nation's unwillingness to engage in actual Free Trade indicates that their business model is based on unfairly gouging and incrementally destroying the US and its people.

Professor Yuan explains that Xi's pretext of using Trump's tariffs as the "cause" for his retaliatory actions goes beyond the Chinese cultural practice of "Saving Face". It is rooted in the simple fact that:

"There is an irreconcilable and fateful hostility between the two political wills of Xi Jinping's Communist totalitarianism and Trump's Make America Great Again…

"This hostility is objective and cannot be eliminated by anyone's will or through any political strategy.

"In order to realize his ideal of Making America Great Again – or from another perspective, to prevent the United States from continuing to weaken – Trump took the initiative to launch this tariff war against the tyranny of the Chinese Communist Party…

"The final result of this economic duel will inevitably be that the United States will win the final economic victory, and the Chinese Communist Party will suffer a heavy blow.

"The reason is simple. The economic size of the United States and its potential for economic development are far greater than the tyranny of the Chinese Communist Party.

"Then, when the Chinese Communist Party is forced into a desperate situation economically, Xi Jinping has only one way to fight back; that is, to launch a military war.

"The most likely place to launch a military war, or a place that the Chinese Communist Party has long dreamed of, is the Taiwan Strait. Therefore, it may be inevitable that the decisive battle of the century between China and the United States will break out in the Taiwan Strait, or more accurately, a military decisive battle between the CCP tyranny and the liberal democratic front led by the United States.

"However, due to the current purge of the army within the CCP tyranny, the purge of the army caused by Miao Hua's disloyalty and Miao Hua's attack has not yet ended.

"Therefore, the conditions for Xi Jinping to launch a war in the Taiwan Strait within 2025 are insufficient. However, it will be a highly likely event to launch a war in the Taiwan Strait before January 2027."

Dr Yuan refers to a new propaganda campaign seen at Beijing Airport, which he calls "psychological warfare," and that he says has "Created such a bloody and murderous atmosphere," and which he believes speaks to the inevitability of a war between China and the US. "

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They’re Lying! China is Losing The Trade War in a BIG Way - Episode #259
The China Show
346K subscribers
197,403 views
4/18/25

"This trade war with China is getting very desperate for China. "

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[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇨🇳🇷🇺Deputy Defense Minister Colonel General Aleksandr Fomin noted that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the People's Liberation Army of China demonstrate exemplary military cooperation and are ready to address any challenges and threats as one.

'A solemn reception took place in the embassy of the People's Republic of China, where descendants of Soviet heroes, who liberated China from Japanese occupation during the World War II.

This event is highly important and takes place in a timely manner as we approach the celebration of the 80 anniversary of the Great Victory.

The event also reminds us about glorious traditions of our shared history with China, when Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the People's Republic of China took the mantle in the fight with German fascism and Japanese militarism.

Soviet warriors stood shoulder to shoulder with Chinese freedom fighters and gave their strength and many sacrificed their lives to defeat a common enemy.

Surely we thank our Chinese friends represented by the Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the People's Republic of China in the Russian Federation, our friend, Zhang Hanhui for organizing this reception.

Russia as well as China carefully preserves the memory of the heroic deed of our heroic predecessors, courage and selflessness of which is forever written in the history of the Russian-Chinese military cooperation.

Today as in the past In 1945, after 80 years, Russia and China continue to support each other. Our countries are tied by comprehensive partnership and strategic cooperation.

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the People's Liberation Army of China undergo joint operational and combat drills at training grounds on a regular basis, thus demonstrating exemplary military cooperation and readiness to address any challenges and threats as one,' said Deputy Defense Minister Aleksandr Fomin.

A solemn reception took place in the embassy of the People's Republic of China for the descendants of Russian veterans, who took part in the liberation of China from Japanese occupation during the World War II.

Russian Defense Ministry

https://x.com/dana916/status/1913707562404286721

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[Ravenlocke]

It very interesting... as I already knew about that too... but Novara brings the same in today's video...
It's so positive to look at how they in China "think" about solutions and different approach with stile of living of elderly people...
In US or in those countries, where they do not have a government health insurances... people can not afford so much... older people sometimes lost everything while they are going in hospitals etc... and also in US oligarchs want austerity at all costs... seams to me!!!
Yes, EU, Canada, China, Russia etc... it's a different situation...

Old people love to travel... me too... and in that way, helping economy back...
With that, they are promoting well being of seniors ... encouraging people to feel positive and take part for the benefit of the country also... it is a good type of propaganda for China!!!

China Puts Elderly People On Trains To Save The Economy

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https://x.com/StephenMcDonell/status/1912721054528684382

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0zqdqzp73o

Aboard the 'silver trains', China's retirees do their bit to offset Trump's tariffs

Beijing insists it will stand firm in the face of Donald Trump's tariffs on Chinese goods. It has been trying to reassure everyone that the country is strong and the economy is resilient enough to weather this latest storm.

But this week, Chinese officials have acknowledged the potential for economic pain as a result of the unfolding trade war with the US.

One option for policymakers here is to try to increase domestic consumption to make up for lost export revenue.

China has a massive population and, if they start buying more stuff, Chinese companies won't have to rely as much on trade overseas.

A key target in this endeavour are retirees with potentially decades of savings.

Now the government wants them to spend some of it - for the good of the country.

And initiatives like the "silver trains" - which are tailored specifically to older travellers - aim to do just that.

On board the Star Express, the cocktails are poured and the karaoke microphone is passed around, as retirees party their way through China's south-western Yunnan province.

The roast goose is being devoured with shots of baijiu, a Chinese white spirit alcohol.

"We have been working hard all these years," says 66-year-old Daniel Ling, who is travelling with a group of retired or semi-retired friends.

"The important thing when we reach this age, is to know what is the right thing to do - and that is to really enjoy life."

The initiative hopes to turn an economic problem into an economic solution by giving older people a fun avenue to spend more.

Families are not spending enough because they don't feel financially safe - the property crisis has diminished the value of their number one asset: their home. And growing unemployment has also potentially made their job less secure.

Add to the mix an ageing population and low birthrates and the proportion of retirees grows each year, making it harder for the economy to support them.

But what retirees do have is time on their hands and money to spend.

So now they are to be given more opportunities to splurge with special trains designed to take them to sites they might not normally visit - parts of the country further afield, which need a financial shot in the arm.

"The main places where the silver trains will stop are undeveloped rural areas or small towns with struggling economies," says Dr Huang Huang, a research associate from the China Tourism Academy who has been studying the potential impact of this plan.

"They will consume various products on the trains, but after they pull into a station, they will also visit tourist attractions and traditional villages."

In Baisha, the travellers stop by the modest street stalls at the bottom of old, two-storey, wooden houses built by the local Naxi ethnic minority.

One of them approaches a vendor selling barbecued strips of yak meat. They look tasty and she buys a bagful. The vendor's husband, who is also working at the stall, says this business is only a year old and that they need outside customers to survive.

All along this street you can get potatoes with spicy sauce, lamb skewers, fresh orange juice and the traditional clothing of the Naxi people.

This is a region where incomes are low and most young people leave when they reach a certain age because there are hardly any jobs for them.

It is also not an easy place for many retirees to reach, but these silver trains make it possible, with easy access to boarding and alighting, and with staff to help as well as extra medical support if required.

Shi Lili, 69, whose granddaughter is accompanying her, says the travelling spirit of her youth has been rekindled: "When I was young I really liked exploring other places by myself. Now I'm older, I have my family who can go with me."

By the end of last year, 22% of China's population were over the age of 60, making up more than 310 million people.

So, if only the smallest percentage of China's retirees take "silver trains", it can still mean millions of ticket sales. And China's railway authorities say they plan to be operating 100 routes within the next three years.

Such trips alone are not going to fix China's massive challenge with low consumer spending. But economists would say these moves are a step in the right direction.

Older citizens now have a much greater desire to travel compared to previous generations, creating "huge potential", according to Dr Huang.

"Given that China's ageing population is now a reality going into the long run - something which is unlikely to the reversed - we should find more opportunities from this rather than always turning it into a challenge."

Back on board the train, the silver adventurers are ready to crash out. And they can do so knowing that their big day out was - at least partly - for the benefit of all.

Then it's onto the next town.

Text:

In China, a country based in part on "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics," retirement is set at 60 for men and 55 for women.

There are exceptions. Some specialists, such as doctors DO WORK to older ages. Some/most folks choose to either volunteer in their communities. Many keep working with easier work. And many just go fishing, dance in evenings in town squares, do Taichi in the mornings and/or play cards and Mahjong with their friends. Shown in the video are retirees fishing in Beijing, a very common practice for retired men in the city.

But, if one chooses, pension begans at 60 years old for men and 55 for women.

We US citizens should seriously begin learning from other national systems. Our elderly are working 40+ hours just to survive in the states. And frankly, the people are getting restless in the US. The system isn't working for half the population.

#Socialism #Retirement

https://x.com/ShangguanJiewen/status/1750062151031718112

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[onawah]

You're About to See China Collapse - In Fact, it's Already Begun - Episode #260
The China Show
347K subscribers
4/25/25

( China is the "land of short cuts and facades"...and "saving face".)

"Bridges and buildings fall down as it appears China's poor quality concrete, tofu dreg construction, and cost cutting methods are catching up in a very bad way."

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Exactly right: "it is a good type of propaganda for China!!!" And propaganda is most likely ALL that it is..

See starting at 1 hour, 1 minute into the China Show video to understand more about what the reality is for old and disabled Chinese people, from two guys who lived and travelled in China for over a decade and still have close connections there (including familial), and who barely escaped with their lives when they began showing the world what a dystopia the CCP has made of China.
Also see 1 hour 5 minutes into the video to see more about CCP-driven propaganda.
(If you still aren't convinced, watch the whole video, and some of their other shows, particularly where they focus on "White Monkeys"--white shills for the CCP.
See: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+china+show+white+monkey)

[QUOTE=bojancan;1665022]It very interesting... as I already knew about that too... but Novara brings the same in today's video...
It's so positive to look at how they in China "think" about solutions and different approach with stile of living of elderly people...
In US or in those countries, where they do not have a government health insurances... people can not afford so much... older people sometimes lost everything while they are going in hospitals etc... and also in US oligarchs want austerity at all costs... seams to me!!!
Yes, EU, Canada, China, Russia etc... it's a different situation...

Old people love to travel... me too... and in that way, helping economy back...
With that, they are promoting well being of seniors ... encouraging people to feel positive and take part for the benefit of the country also...
it is a good type of propaganda for China!!!
China Puts Elderly People On Trains To Save The Economy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wy7c0i5e78 [QUOTE]

[norman]

Something Strange is Happening in China
Maxinomics - Apr 24, 2025


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China’s citizens save 40% of their income, where in the US it’s less than 10%. This is the main source of tension between China and the rest of the world. Creating huge distortions between how much China’s people buy from the rest of the world compared to how much they sell to the rest of the world.

Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:47 China demands growth
01:21 The building boom, too much?
03:10 Leland Miller and China Beige Book
04:00 What China needs to do to grow
05:26 A history of struggle in China
06:32 The 4-2-1 dilemma and the one-child policy
08:16 Chinese people have nothing to invest in
11:42 Summary

[bojancan]

Something Strange is Happening in China
Maxinomics - Apr 24, 2025


u1y0T3R7t3I


China’s citizens save 40% of their income, where in the US it’s less than 10%. This is the main source of tension between China and the rest of the world. Creating huge distortions between how much China’s people buy from the rest of the world compared to how much they sell to the rest of the world.

Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:47 China demands growth
01:21 The building boom, too much?
03:10 Leland Miller and China Beige Book
04:00 What China needs to do to grow
05:26 A history of struggle in China
06:32 The 4-2-1 dilemma and the one-child policy
08:16 Chinese people have nothing to invest in
11:42 Summary

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[norman]

A misleading title and a clickbaity thumbnail but in the early part it presents an informative summary of the evolution of the territories currently known as China. Later, after the advert, it gets shallow and naïve about contemporary matters.

Mutiny in China - China is FALLING APART as Provinces Rise up Against CCP
Business Basics - Apr 23, 202


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[norman]

I can't find a video version of this yet.


American Thought Leaders - Leaked Directive Reveals the CCP’s Desperate Strategy to Survive the Trade War: Heng He (https://podbay.fm/p/american-thought-leaders/e/1745715600)
59 minutes - Posted Apr 27, 2025

Show notes
A recently leaked directive details the Chinese Communist Party’s strategy to respond to Trump’s tariffs.

How is the CCP trying to leverage this moment? Will this be the end of China as the “factory of the world?”

And what’s behind the purges in the military, the apparent removal of two Xi Jinping loyalists, and recent changes in top CCP leadership? Why did two top CCP officials recently swap positions?

Joining us today is longtime China analyst and commentator Heng He.

[onawah]

ARSON, EXPLOSIONS, CHAOS - China's Been Hit Harder Than We Thought - Episode #261
The China Show
350K subscribers
5/2/25

"This week has been a disaster for China. "

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[onawah]

China's Housing Disaster/Scam
The Great Housing Scam: Why China’s Towers Will Become Future Ghost Towns
China Unfolded
4.93K subscribers
9,417 views May 10, 2025

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[onawah]

How China Is Building an Army of Hackers
Bloomberg Originals
4.58M subscribers
224,933 views May 13, 2025

"China and the US are locked in a constant struggle for information, using cyber espionage to gain strategic advantage. Recently leaked files have shed light on rapid advances in China’s cyber capabilities as both nations prepare for any future conflict.

Read more about China’s hacker ecosystem on Bloomberg:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...

00:00 China’s growing hacker ecosystem
01:23 Global hacking competitions
04:20 China’s cyber strategy
07:11 Training China’s cyber army
08:00 A glimpse inside: the I-Soon leaks
10:24 Cyber espionage and disruption campaigns
13:17 Hack on US territory of Guam
14:10 Facing the threat "

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[onawah]

China Faces Total Destruction If It Attacks Taiwan, US Commander Warns: America Will Prevail
China Observer
703K subscribers
63,942 views
May 14, 2025

"On May 2nd, during the Sedona Forum in Arizona, the commander of United States Indo-Pacific Command, Admiral Samuel Paparo, made a significant statement: “The United States will prevail in the conflict as it stands now, with the force that we have right now”. This was not a casual tough remark; it was a strategically timed declaration of intent."

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China’s Ultimate Plan Against Trump Leaked, US-China Tariff Deal Is Deception, Larger Conflict Ahead
China Observer
703K subscribers
May 15, 2025

"However, the key question remains: will China truly comply with this agreement? Many experts believe the answer is clear—China is unlikely to fully honor the deal. This is viewed as a tactical move by the Chinese government, aimed at relieving pressure rather than a genuine commitment."

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[gini]

ARSON, EXPLOSIONS, CHAOS - China's Been Hit Harder Than We Thought - Episode #261
The China Show
350K subscribers
5/2/25

"This week has been a disaster for China. "

mMN52PFskdk

These guys discuss the orgine of the Covid blame game between China & the US at 12 20 min mark,and laugh away that Fauci was blamed for gain of function research and that its all China who lied about it and that China is mainly responseble for the scamdemic.

Thats a really propagandistic approach.Its not the first time i noticed that about this channel . to me it doesnt smell good, .i dont trust these guys

[onawah]

I could be wrong, but I sense that Matt and Winston are just gullible, mainly good-natured and well meaning guys, trying very hard to be entertaining, though their efforts sometimes go awry and they end up looking pretty foolish.
But they certainly seem to have no real grasp at all of what the Globalists are really up to and sadly, like so many people, seem determined to remain in denial.
The thing I have found worthy of notice is that, due to the years of rather harrowing experience they both have from having lived, worked and travelled all over China, each for over a decade, the anecdotes they share provide true glimpses of what it's really like there in the day to day life of the Chinese people.
...For whom they have a lot of affection despite their many foibles, after years of cruel subjugation under the CCP.
And the guys obviously detest the CCP.
They still have personal contacts in China ( including family members as both married native Chinese women) who help keep them apprised of what's actually going on in the Chinese street life, which is rare and of value, since the CCP's propaganda and censorship are so extensive.
They try hard to keep the show light-hearted, but it will be interesting to see if they will be able to succeed as the reality in China becomes ever more dystopian.



ARSON, EXPLOSIONS, CHAOS - China's Been Hit Harder Than We Thought - Episode #261
The China Show
350K subscribers
5/2/25

"This week has been a disaster for China. "



These guys discuss the orgine of the Covid blame game between China & the US at 12 20 min mark,and laugh away that Fauci was blamed for gain of function research and that its all China who lied about it and that China is mainly responseble for the scamdemic.

Thats a really propagandistic approach.Its not the first time i noticed that about this channel . to me it doesnt smell good, .i dont trust these guys

[onawah]

China is About to Black Out the Entire USA - Episode #263
The China Show
352K subscribers
May 16, 2025 LIVE at 4pm CST

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[bojancan]

Danny Haiphong
421K subscribers

Russia, China & Iran STUN Trump—This War Ends in CATASTROPHE w/ Brian Berletic
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Trump's Pentagon hasn't learned the lessons of history and is pushing the unthinkable WW3 on three-fronts: Russia, China and Iran. Geopolitical analyst Brian Berletic discusses the warning that Russia's defeat of NATO's proxy war in Ukraine should have sent and why it isn't being heeded, with catastrophic consequences.

[onawah]

How China Broke America Without Firing a Shot: Ft. The China Show-China Uncensored-China Insider
StevenCrowder/ Louder With Crowder
5.69M subscribers
11,596 views
May 23, 2025

(It's good to see Matt and Winston, the "China Show" guys, getting some deserved recognition, and also good to learn more about who's behind "China Uncensored" and "China Insider". All of which I was posting shows from on the "Turmoil in China" thread until I just got tired of seeing how little recognition it was getting on the forum, and now seeing more and more disinformation from CCP propaganda being posted here once again without anyone recognizing it for what it is or challenging it. )

"Lane “the Brain” Kendall brings together four hosts of the largest China-focused shows on the Internet: The China Show, China Uncensored and China Insider. Find out what life was like for them in China and how China is propagandizing Americans, including their infiltration into the right wing movement."

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His Fire is Starting a Revolution in China - "The ¥800 Hero" - Episode #264
The China Show
353K subscribers
Streamed live 5 hours ago 5/23/25

"They're calling him the ¥800 hero. This is escalating."

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[norman]

NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM MAY 22, 2025 (https://podbay.fm/p/news-and-views-from-the-nefarium/e/1747938936?t=47)

Show notes
Something is up in the "Peoples'" "Republic" of China, and it has some people speculating that there is a slow moving coup going on, or a purge...

Xi Jinping's Failed Coup Attempt has Led to a Thorough Purge of Military Influence (https://www.peoplenewstoday.com/news/en/2025/04/26/1100018.html)

[onawah]

CHINA'S NEW VIOLENT STUDENT REVOLUTION + Harvard/Visa Chinese Student Drama Explained - Episode #265
The China Show
354K subscribers
5/30/25

"China's student revolution. Why is no one covering this? Also, Chinese student visa drama in the USA explained." qR9GI1qIjKM

[Strat]

There's a great documentary from Netlix called American Factory, here's the trailer it's 2:41 in length:
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I was going to post this in my "who makes the best stuff" thread but that thread is not necessarily about China. Anyway...

I really liked it, I found it to be fair and generally unbiased. It's about a Chinese businessman opening a glass factory in a former auto plant in the USA. In doing this he brings over advisors from China to train the workers.

The result is interesting. There is certainly a culture clash however the people get together really well. They go fishing together and one guy even invited a bunch of the Chinese folk over to his house for a good ol American cookout along with motorcycles and shooting guns. They loved it! They spent time together, took pictures and had a great time.

The culture clash was only demonstrated in the work place (from what I recall). The Americans didn't want to work as hard and wanted benefits whereas the Chinese generally worked harder. The conditions in China were somewhat worse than in USA and they had to make some adjustments for OSHA. The company was wrestling with unions, something they didn't have to deal with in China where they having the backing of the government. However I liked the Chinese work ethic, it reminds me of how we used to be in the States. When I was growing up and working for my dad he was strict, on the jobsite you couldn't sit in your spare time or even have your hands in your pockets, he really doesn't care for that haha. The point is you had to stay focused and ready to 'jump' when necessary. This is generally gone in the USA these days but in this film it makes it seem like in China this is how they work but even more strict. I can appreciate that but at the same time I think there's more to life than work. Something to think about from time to time I suppose.

I've been thinking about that lately. Somewhere in the documentary the Chinese billionaire said "the meaning of life is to work, don't you think?" I don't know what I think about that, it's certainly important, but I wouldn't say it's the meaning of life. The man is interesting, toward the end of the documentary he talks about how he misses his youth when he heard the frogs croaking and now he's built so many factories he is worried that he did the wrong thing in life and destroyed the things he holds beautiful.

I like this documentary because it revolves around people themselves and demonstrates their humanity. In life people want me to "pick a side" and when I don't they foolishly assume they know my side. I'm on team humanity, most of us are trying our best. We didn't chose to be born where we were born nor did we chose the circumstances we'd live in. We need to respect each other and remove the lens of politics that influences us to justify disrespecting each other.

[onawah]

China Terrified of Trump vs. Elon + New FACTORY FIRE CHAOS + Chinese Bioweapon in US - Episode #266
The China Show
355K subscribers
6/6/25

"Chinese rebel against the elites, China smuggles bioweapon into the USA, Trump vs. Elon has China twisted in knots, and Chinese people blow up factories across the country! "

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[onawah]

Hellfire Chaos in China - $70 BILLION LOST Overnight - Chinese People Flood Streets - Episode #267
The China Show
355K subscribers
6/13/25

"Factory fires tear across China. Unrest is out of control. 70 billion lost overnight. People take to the streets and fight the government. New insane food trends are truly disgusting."

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[onawah]

China’s new leaders emerge—and the Russians know
Lei's Real Talk
308K subscribers
Jun 16, 2025

"Xi Jinping should not blame his downfall on his political rivals—but his own failing health. Beneath the surface of “business as usual,” a quiet plan is underway to force him out, officially citing “health reasons.” Even the Kremlin has picked up on the shift: Xi’s fall could reshape China-Russia relations. Inside Zhongnanhai, amid mounting infighting, a sweeping leadership transition is taking shape. The current Politburo Standing Committee will be dissolved and replaced with a new team of seven. So who are the rising power players? And which three will emerge as China’s next ruling trio?

Watch my full video here: • What happens after Xi Jinping phases out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am6ZYYSmevM "

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[onawah]

I think we need a new thread: What's Happening in the US that the CCP Caused?
Still, so little attention is being paid to what the CCP has been doing to create a dystopia equal to the one they have created in China.
People are so distracted by the threat of WW3 they aren't seeing how it's already been waged for quite some time by the CCP, not with bombs, but very stealthy means.
Here's yet another one, election theft:

FBI Has Officially Confirmed that the 2020 Election Was Stolen
Forbidden.News
Jun 19, 2025
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/fbi-has-officially-confirmed-that?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1658626&post_id=166358920&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=p7227&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

(LOTS of videos, images and hyperlinks in this excellent article from Alexandra Bruce, which I spent about an hour diligently copying and pasting and was about to post when the server went down and it got lost.
So I am just posting the article without embeddeding anything this time other than the first Rumble video, which is at the end of this post, where all Rumble videos must go, but there are several Rumble videos referenced in the article.
This is a must see article for those who really want to know about the stolen election, and especially the CCP's role in it. )

VIDEO: "FBI Has Officially Confirmed That The 2020 Election Was Stolen!!!" - Pub. June 19, 2025 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
On Monday, FBI Director Kash Patel announced that he had declassified and shared documents with Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) about the manipulation of the 2020 US election by the Chinese Communist Party.

To those of us following this travesty blow-by-blow since November 2020, this was not news and many of us have PTSD from the lack of justice for this batant crime, which heralded the preposterous rubber mask-CGI-Autopen Biden Regime and allowed it to run for an entire presidential term.

Sad to say, I’d become so jaded that Patel's announcement registered barely above zero. He'd recently beclowned himself on Fox News with his ludicrous statement that Jeffrey Epstein "killed himself", then he contradicted Attorney General Pam Bondi's claims on Joe Rogan's podcast that there thousands of videos of child abuse.

Patel's Monday announcement was also overshadowed by Israel's attack on Iran and the looming prospect of a global nuclear apocalypse.

Maybe Acts of War against Iran will offer enough distraction to allow prosecution of these Acts of War against the US.

The whistleblowing and investigative efforts of many are now returning to the fore.

In December 30, 2020, Jennifer Zeng interviewed Vinness Ollervides, a Chinese Communist Party Princeling and a descendant of the Manchu Dynasty who's been banned from China, due to his pro-democracy speech and political activism.

Ollervides had recorded a phone call of himself ordering fake US election ballots from a factory in Guangzhou, China. He told Zeng that while investigating the CCP's interference with the 2020 US election, he saw ballots printed for Florida, North Carolina and Mississippi, which had been smuggled into the US across the Canadian border.

VIDEO: "2020 Report: At Least 1.5 Million Ballots Were Printed in China" - Pub. June 19, 2025 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
Following Kash Patel's announcement that the CCP orchestrated the theft of the 2020 US Elections, an October 2024 X thread by Christopher Porter is also getting more attention.

Porter, a former National Intelligence Officer for Cyber under President Donald Trump's first term and Joe Biden tweeted:

I warned four years ago that the failure of US intelligence to confront China over their campaign to influence the 2020 election would embolden them. We are now reaping the harvest of that bad decision.

That lack of pushback, even against an ineffective Chinese effort, no doubt led to where we are today: Beijing knows they can take action like this and even if detected and attributed the US won’t do much about it.

Politics has to stop at the water’s edge. That means calling out Chinese influence operations at the highest level. It should be a matter of principle that they can’t interfere; even weak operations should draw a response if we want to deter further attempts.

I seem to remember many "experts", including within Britain and other close allies, downplaying the risks China poses to telecommunications. In part, those decisions were driven by a desire for cheap infrastructure rather than sober security analysis.

Perhaps most importantly let’s all remember that it’s feasible we could see an attempt by China to seize Taiwan as early as 2027. This kind of access is not just good for spying on communications, but disabling them as well i.e. during wartime.

In this same thread another X user, @Mankomash asked Porter, "So China & Iran are both using their intelligence services to support the Democrats?"

Porter replied, "The key question deliberately left unanswered: why? How does @VP [Kamala Harris] winning help their foreign policy?"

Alex Jones weighed in on Wednesday about these developments, saying:

The communist Chinese, CCP with the Carnegie Endowment and the CIA with DHS and the DOJ brought in massive planeloads of ballots printed in Communist China.

And then, when all the counting places are shut down at 1 AM, 2 AM in the morning – in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, in Michigan – in come the trucks.

And in many of the videos – we have them – it's Chinese men and women, a lot of times with out-of-state plates getting out.

VIDEO: "Here’s What Really Happened in TCF Center on Nov. 4" - Pub. Feb 14, 2021 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
So, imagine how many people working for the Postal Service driving a big truck full of ballots decided to go look? Not many, but we had two go public and then they got threatened by the FBI...

VIDEO: "USPS Whistleblower Richard Hopkins Details Coercion Tactics Used by Fed Agents" - Pub. November 12, 2020 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
Trump's FBI unveiled shocking details of Chinese plot using fake ballots to defeat him in 2020 Election.

And that's what it did. You look at the numbers, absolutely stole those states. And that's not just the mule operations that were separate...


VIDEO: "2000 Mules Trailer | A 2020 Election Illegal Vote Harvesting Ring" - Pub. Jan 30, 2022 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
Here it is. It's the proof. They've got the forensic experts that will show the hack, will show the patch.

It'll show the fraud. It'll show the scam.

VIDEO: "Absolute Proof" - Pub. Feb 5, 2021 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
It'll show all those Chinese ballots shipped in, flown in on private jets, fed in that were all perfectly scanned, drawn, perfectly printed, weren't even folded, were never put in an envelope, were never mailed.

They were brought in. We even have the Chinese on video in Georgia and Michigan at 4 AM and 3 AM coming in with the dollies. Chinese nationals landing in private jets with perfect ballots, hitting us and hitting us hard.

The DHS censorship operation run out of CISA, together with EIP, this four group consortium of 120 individual censors monitoring the entire internet across 15 different platforms to censor pro-Trump tweets or anyone who casts doubt on the integrity of the 2020 election. In the slide deck presentations of those censors who were set up by DHS, who got to use CISA's 24-7 cyber mission control to flag tweets.

In those presentations, they specifically finger-out a specific tweet by Donald Trump on June 22nd, and I'll read it:

"RIGGED 2020 ELECTION", this is all caps, "RIGGED 2020 ELECTION", millions of mail-in ballots will be printed by foreign countries and others.

IMAGE: Trump Tweet November 15, 2020
It will be the scandal of our times. Now, DHS's censorship network specifically cited that tweet as one of the reasons they needed to scramble to form this wide-spanning, totalizing censorship operation. And the fact that they specifically were set off by tweets by Donald Trump, insinuating that foreign countries may be printing ballots or taking advantage of the mail-in ballot system in the operation that Cash just laid out, that was the triggering tweet, among several others, to set up this entire censorship operation, while DHS had inside, classified knowledge that that is exactly what was going down and that Donald Trump was in fact correct.

VIDEO: "CENSORSHIP FILES Expose the Socialist Agenda Against Free Speech of Both the Aspen Institute – and of Harry & Meghan!" - Pub. May 29, 2024 by ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net
So they set up these groups, that Obama originally set up to say, "Anybody exposing foreign interference is the foreign interference."

So, the very groups set up to coordinate stopping foreign interference were treasonously running the election theft. Smoking gun, open-and-shut.

We have the videos, the eyewitnesses, the whistleblowers, the USPS drivers. We have it all. Open-and-shut indictments, giant conspiracy against the Republic, a coup that was successful for four years. The lawfare, the indictments, the attempts to kill Trump, all by the CIA, the Carnegie Endowment, the Democratic Party.

The Democrats are still run by the Chi-Coms.

I guess it takes a nuclear war for all of this to finally be addressed.

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CHINA IS UNDERWATER - Utter MAYHEM + Pandemonium as China Falls Apart - Episode #268
The China Show
356K subscribers
6/20/25

"China is not doing well. This isn't good."

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'China’s Digital Yuan Experiment FAILING — Citizens REJECT State Money, Panic GROWS
China’s grand experiment with the digital yuan is spiraling out of control. Citizens are rejecting it, merchants are ditching it, and the government is panicking. The very currency that was supposed to give Beijing total financial control is being pushed back by the people. And now, a wave of economic distrust is spreading fast. What was once pitched as the future of money is now triggering fear, confusion, and chaos.
Why are Chinese citizens suddenly abandoning the digital yuan, even under government pressure? What unexpected resistance is rising in cities like Shenzhen, Chengdu, and Hangzhou? And how is this digital currency backlash shaking China’s financial future?
To understand why the digital yuan is unraveling so fast, we have to go back to how this all began — and what Beijing hoped to achieve.'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4tyqNV63KE?si=B85xhhBzGMhkpXtK

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China's yearly flooding underway
310 Dams in Hunan Submerged by Floods, Over 1,000 Tofu-Dreg Dams in China at Risk of Collapse
China Observer
720K subscribers
Jun 23, 2025

"Since June 18, heavy to torrential rain has been falling continuously in many parts of Hunan Province. Rainfall levels have broken historical records. Because of the intense downpours, water levels in several reservoirs in the Lishui River basin, which is part of the Dongting Lake system, have risen above warning levels. Dams like the Changtan River Power Station, Dongmen Dam, and Sanjiangkou Dam in Shimen have been releasing large amounts of water. But the water volume is too much to handle, and now, 310 reservoirs and dams across the province are facing overflow risks."

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(It's so predictable and it just gets worse every year. The more Chinese taxpayers invest in government infrastructure projects, the worse conditions get.)

A Heavy Rain Floods Ten Provinces! $12 Billion Flood Control Infrastructure Collapses, All Tofu-Dreg
China Observer
720K subscribers
Jun 23, 2025

"In June 2025, heavy rain brought by Typhoon Butterfly hit several cities in southern China, including Guangdong, Hunan, Jiangxi, and Chongqing. These areas experienced historic flooding, with river levels rising rapidly. Streets were submerged, and the roads quickly turned into waterways. Cars floated through the streets like boats, and subway stations flooded like waterfalls. The scenes were alarming, leaving residents struggling to get around as daily life was severely disrupted."

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China’s TOTAL COLLAPSE Mega Projects FAIL Across Country - Episode #269
The China Show
357K subscribers
6/27/25
Started streaming 33 minutes ago

"China's massive infrastructure projects collapse across the country."

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a sk8 event in China, by a Japanese chan. 2nd vid of his from China, that I’ve seen.

No mention or vid evidence of anti-Japan sentiment from any Chinese. This seems to counter the narrative put forth by CCP-critics Matt and Winston on their YouTube chan The China Show, that visceral hat for the Japanese, is endemic in China. Maybe the event, which had other teams of foreigners - Thailand was mentioned - was sanctioned and protected by the gov.

The previous China post was from/of a skateboard event in Beijing, which is said by Matt and Winston to be at odds with the federal gov. They said that the city was more harshly treated/mandated during the COVID lockdowns, than most other cities/regions. I didn’t catch where this current event was.

The event included, or maybe was entirely made up of, challenges, most of them goofy or quirky, on and off of skateboards. They show the paperwork. A new thing, for me, were the busy/crowded challenges where tricks off the ramp (to flat) were in such close progression/sequence that riders sometimes landed on previous (unsuccessful, and often sprawled) riders.

WENT TO A CRAZY SKATE EVENT IN CHINA...

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Posted June 28, 2025


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Patrick Byrne: "Countering the Chinese Absorption of the USA"/They Almost had us Defeated
Forbidden.News
Jun 28, 2025
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/patrick-byrne-countering-the-chinese?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1658626&post_id=166947908&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=p7227&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

(The main contents of this approximately 50 minute speech--made by Patrick Byrne at Gen. Flynn's--urging are very important in understanding China's role in global politics.
Though the information needs to be edited into a format that is more compact and comprehensible, imhoand hopefully that will happen.
It will probably take less time for most readers to scan the existing transcript (which follows) for the main points rather than listening to the speech, which goes on for about 50 minutes.
The China he portrays seems far from the dystopian clown world that we see in the weekly episodes from "The China Show" and other regular reports from sources like "China Observer", which show a China that is falling apart from within and the people in rebellion, but there is certainly agreement overall as to what a dystopian world the CCP wants to create, with itself at the helm.
The news about China doesn't get a lot of attention on the forum, so I will ask Bill Ryan to check it out and make a recommendation as to where to post it the most advantageously.
Trump fans should love it, since some of his actions as POTUS are being credited for the defeat of China's plans to take over the US.
Video with speech, Q&A session that followed and transcript are also at this link: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/patrick-byrne-countering-the-chinese-absorption-of-the-usa/ )

"Patrick Byrne appeared at the Stay Awake America event in Florida last Sunday to make this presentation, which was not supposed to have been possible, because we were not supposed to have survived four years of our government under the control of the enemy.

Byrne claims the 20 million illegal, military-aged male migrants who were imported under the Biden Regime were brought here to rape, pillage, loot and burn, post-collapse, to the point where there was nothing left but a husk for the CCP to then occupy.

He says:

"It's called the "100-Year Marathon", because they established the goal, when they took power in 1949, of being done by 2049. And even if the goal was to get to 100 years, the goal for the world is just that they're the global hegemon, and everything sort of falls into order under China.

"They have these special plans for us. They need to make an example out of us, like I've explained.

"In 2010, they accelerated their target date from 2049 to 2030. After they got through the election of 2020, they actually said, "It's all gonna be over by 2028, maybe 2027."

"They have issued, in China, deeds on your homes. Every nice home in America has a deed, just given to some Chinese colonel or major or general or Communist Party guy, and he gets on Google Earth, he looks at your home once a month, he thanks you for that outdoor swimming pool you put in last summer, he's gonna enjoy that.

"He thinks he's there by 2028, maybe 2027. At least, in 2021, they thought they were that close. They thought that, when that election was stolen, they thought they were there, and they distributed deeds in China to their high-level people on American homes."

TRANSCRIPT

Patrick Byrne:' Ladies and gentlemen, what an honor it is to speak again at another Stay Awake America, because we do have to stay awake.

General Flynn asked me to speak about China. I was ready to talk about all kinds of fun things, but he actually told me he wanted me to give a talk on China. So we're going to talk about China.

And pardon me if this is a little, I don't know, academic, but I want people to really understand the Big Picture of what's going on...

OK, how I came to love China. Since I was a young boy, I was fascinated with, well, first, the movies of Li Xiaolong, or Bruce Lee.

And that got me into a further appreciation of Chinese culture and history. And so, my parents always thought it was quite strange. I was a six or seven-year-old.

I always wanted to read about China. And from the initial just attraction to the Bruce Lee, Kung Fu stuff, to reading about ancient China and understanding the Chinese civilization had a great attraction to me. I wasn't sure why.

Other than, actually, when I think of it, Confucianism isn't a religion. It's a philosophy of self-control, self-discipline, and improvement. And teaching such virtues as civility, justice, integrity, and humility.

Li Yi, the Insurer, there's an ideal gentleman that Confucius teaches you to become. And it always seemed that it spoke to me. Confucius really spoke to me in terms of the type of person that one should be attracted to and should try to emulate.

How they see China's history versus how they see their history. I'd like to walk through this. So pardon the little 10-minute lesson on Chinese history on a Sunday afternoon.

I'll try not to put you to sleep. But I've really condensed an undergraduate master's into a little 10-minute thing for you, maybe eight minutes. The thing to understand is they see themselves as one nation with a 2,500-year-old history.

But it's a dynastic. It's a dynastic history. Dynasties are 200, 300, 400-year-long periods.

And at each dynasty, they see this cycle in their history. They see a cycle in history different than the Greeks and Romans saw. Their cycle is there's a founding.

There's a golden age. Then there's an inevitable decline. And then chaos again until somebody establishes the new order.

So I'm just giving you, like, take any 20-year-old out of China, their understanding of their own history. And this is quite, I'm going to be getting to the CCP and how this all plays into what's going on between our two countries. The decline is associated with corruption and decadence.

That's how they view that their dynasties last until people at the top get corrupt and decadent, and then they lose their power. The mandate of heaven, and everything turns to turmoil. Usually, there's natural disasters until some new leadership emerges.

What's interesting is that the reason they see themselves as one nation with just all these dynastic history is there's been a cultural continuity for at least 2,500 years. And a great credit you've got to give to the Chinese is their reverence for education. They, under the Confucian system, they selected at every village, anyone could, the kids would study, actually, the intellects of Confucius.

And then there'd be, periodically, every few years, a test. And all over the empire, kids could test. And then the better, the kids who tested higher got selected, and they moved on and on.

So the whole imperial system, from the county up to the guys right next to the emperor, were all sort of the scholars who understood and actually could regurgitate Confucianism. But it really emphasizes education. And there's a reason the two most well-off groups in America, the two highest income groups in America, are people of Jewish descent and people of descent from a Confucian nation, like China or Korea, or Japan or China.

And to me, those have something in common. Those are traditions that really value education. I once made the mistake, I was a student in China when they first opened up, and I made the mistake.

In Chinese, once the Communists came in, everyone, Chinese is filled with honorifics. Way I would address, you would probably, most of you would call me Uncle Pat, and I would call you Little Sister, and things like this. There's just, filled with these ways of expressing honor.

The Communists got rid of all of it. Everything became "comrade", tongzhi, comrade. And you could say, from Comrade Street Sweeper to Comrade Chairman of the Party to Comrade President of the University, you could address all of them as "comrade".

I made the mistake once in a Chinese history class of addressing my, with like 50 other Chinese students in the room, asking a question of my teacher, addressing her as Comrade Teacher. And there was this audible gasp. And afterwards, they explained to me, look, in Chinese, there's a saying, the teacher is above the emperor.

A teacher is more important than the emperor. In their worldview, there's one ladder that runs from the street sweeper up to the emperor, or the street sweeper up to the chairman of the party. But there's a, being a teacher is a completely separate thing, and really above all of that.

So I mean, there's just these aspects of Chinese culture that, I was raised in a very strict household, and it sure seemed to me that I was getting the same lessons I was learning from my parents were coming down to me through study, studying this Chinese history. It ends in the Qing Dynasty. And I wanna speak for a minute about the Qing, because that's how we start intersecting with the West.

And if you think this is ancient history, well, it is ancient history, but maybe to us, it's like a footnote. Believe me, Chinese, they understand what's going on in the world very much through understanding these centuries of history. The Qing Dynasty, last 400 years, was typical, autocratic, top-down.

Although, as I said, their ability, their reverence for education means that as they went through these different cycles, they didn't lose like the West did. As emperors rose and fell in the West, we learned things, and then we forgot them. Remember when the Roman Empire fell, there was darkness of one degree or another for 1,000 years, and then there was darkness in Western Europe, and until there was a rebirth, the Renaissance, the rebirth was, they were rediscovering things that we had known, that the Romans had known 1,000 years earlier.

China isn't like that. It's accumulated knowledge, and it's because there's a real continuity. In fact, even when they've been conquered by exterior forces like the Mongolians or the Manchu, their conquerors don't impose their systems.

The conquerors get there, and they generally get sort of absorbed into the Chinese system. They learned this system, and they just took the higher positions. They never really overthrew the system, so it meant that they were able to accumulate knowledge and technical knowledge in a way that the West did not for 1,000 years.

So then they get to the Qing Dynasty, and it's this decadence, corruption. It was notoriously stagnant. They went inwards.

They closed off China to the outside, and because of that, they completely stagnated, and these hairy barbarians on the western slopes of Eurasia, as they see us, sort of got the jump on them because they closed off, and they became totally isolationist, and in the meantime, the West discovered things and science and shared stock companies and five or six little inventions that sprung us ahead, but they don't really fundamentally doubt that they are the superior group. They just kind of had some bad leadership for a while and fell into disrepair. Then came opium, and the Qing Dynasty is when opium, and it wasn't – the Europeans didn't bring it.

They had already discovered, they started using opium in the 1700s, but then the Europeans, especially the English and the French, forced opium upon them, and those were what we call the Opium Wars of 1842, and where they forced access that we, from now on, you cannot, the emperor tried to close off Europe from selling opium to their people. They turned it into a nation of addicts and opium debts, and the English fought for the right to open up a port and continue selling opium, and then in 1850, the English and the French, the British and the French together fought the Chinese to demand that it be legalized, which it was, and that really, they, so opium was legalized, and this leads to, next, any, this leads to what they call the "Century of Humiliation".

For 100 years, this nation that had understood itself as the central nation of the earth, and with this, that was the most advanced society for 2,500 years, they always felt about themselves, and with good, probably with good measure until about 500 years ago, found itself this weak, sick, decrepit kingdom that was being picked on by these people they viewed as barbarians, and for 100 years, they basically lost every engagement.

A small number of Western soldiers could defeat with our mechanized way of work and defeat large armies of the Chinese. There's nothing they could do, so what happened to them, Amy, is what happened to Africa, almost, what happened to Africa was in 1885, a bunch of European powers got together and decided to carve up Africa like a Christmas turkey, and that's what they did, and that almost happened to China, Amy.

The European powers went to work, and they had a plan, and the maps on the right, they absolutely had carved, they were gonna carve China up into different countries, different spheres of influence, which would become different countries like happened with Africa and everywhere else.

That didn't happen, that didn't happen. That was the European plan. It didn't happen because of the US. The US had, if you remember your high school history, the open-door policy was the first time we flexed our muscle on the global stage. 1899, William McKinley's Secretary of State, John Jay, a very talented Secretary of State, the first time America asserted itself globally and said that we sent a letter to the European powers saying we will not accept you carving up China.

You can open ports and ports where we can trade through, like Hong Kong and Shanghai, but we don't accept you opening up China, and if you remember Teddy Roosevelt, who died when McKinley got shot, he sent the great white navy. We had this huge navy. For the first time, we had a big navy, and we sent it around the world.

That was in part to back up our telling the Europeans, leave your hands off China. So then came World War II, where we built in the '30s a road through Burma, the famous Burma Road, so we could supply China in their defense against Japan. I had a great uncle who died in this stuff.

Next. The United China Relief Program. We support, everyone knows we supported the Soviets during World War II.

We kind of forget how much it was, part of what was being taught to Americans was our duty to protect the Chinese and to support them. In 1969, there's a river that forms the border between China and the Soviet Union. It's called the Heilongjiang River, the Black Dragon River, and there was a drought in 1969, and a river dropped and a sandbar emerged, and the Soviets and the Chinese went and fought over the sandbar.

A thousand people were killed. Eventually, the water, the rains came, and the water went up, and everyone went home, but before it did, the Soviets went to an early Richard Nixon administration, and said, now this is something I learned in China. It was in the Chinese history books.

It said, "We'll make you a deal. We'll take care of China. We'll nuke China if you, America, will stand by and not do anything, and Kissinger told the Soviets, "If you nuke China, we'll nuke you!" and stood up for them.

I only mention this history because when I lived in China, everybody knew this. Everybody knew these stories, and they knew about this affinity between the US and China, and this, in a sense, that these elements that we had shared.

I was taught nothing but admiration for China. Books like Edgar Snow, 'Red Star over China'. I mean, there's actually, I think he was the one who said, "The difference between Chinese and Russians is when Americans meet Russians, we don't love each other, but we do with China."

I don't know if you feel the same way. I was certainly brought up to think nothing but great things about the Chinese, to admire them for their perseverance in the face of adversity, all kinds of things. I'll mention a book.

When I was in China in '83, '84, there was a book that everybody read at the time. It was the big book, and there's a strange paragraph in there. I haven't looked at this in 40 years, but I can still place it, and I should go find it, pull it out.

There's a paragraph, they were gloating in 1983 about how China, we were selling things to China, and China couldn't make anything of value, but they were insisting on paying us with goods or barter or something, and that American boats were taking, delivering stuff and taking coconuts and things in return, but then going 50 miles out to the ocean and dumping them overboard, because there was nothing of value that China could produce for us.

And while I was a student, I got occasional jobs, had $100 a day, which seemed like a fortune to translate for Western companies, to interpret. They were in China, I would go around with their executives for a day and just interpret for them in the cities and give them tours and such, and so I'd learn about what Boeing and different people were doing, and it always surprised me.

The Chinese were saying, "The condition of doing business in China is going to be you have to build a factory here and show us how you make your GM cars or show us how you make your airplanes."

And the American companies were saying, "Sure, no problem," signing that over. And even at age 20, I was thinking, how strange that is.

They did look down, I think it really came back to, they looked down. The Chinese were so poor. And at that point, even being a Marine on guard at the embassy in China, you got hardship pay. It was like being posted to Antarctica or something. It was so poor, it was so poor.

And I think...the reason American corporations made this mistake, looking back, is it was so poor, they thought, "These people are never gonna amount to anything. Sure, we can show them our secrets. What does it matter if we show them how we make our Boeing airplane wings or engines and show them how GM, so every factory we ever built there, they owned half of, and we taught them everything about how we make everything, and we just thought, "Meh. What are they gonna do with it?"

Joke was on us.

That's not how they think of themselves, though. They remember this terrible Century of Humiliation, and they're very sensitive, and I really became aware of that when I landed in China, I was in Hong Kong, and June 3rd, 1983, I was with a couple friends, and one was a guy, and I'll never forget, we were out one evening walking through the streets, and there was an old artist, a refugee from Shanghai, and he was doing caricatures of people, and incidentally, even when I heard about American missionaries in China, I guess I always thought the cynical thoughts one had about the missionaries, until I got a little bit older.

I mean, you hear a lot of missionaries did a lot of bad things, but as I got older, I discovered, no, there really was this strain in the American character who just wanted to help China, and there was a century of tradition, and this guy was in China, was the grandchildren of missionaries, and he shared that. There was just this great, they felt like they were doing God's work, not just looking for converts, but going and helping China stand up. Since the days of Adam Smith, American Western writers have written cognizant of the terrible deprivation and suffering of Chinese people.

So, for example, when I got out of college, some of the people I knew stayed on in China getting jobs with World Bank and IMF and stuff, and they were really looked up to by the rest of us students, by the other students, as people who were really, I mean, it's a corny expression, but "Doing God's Work", but staying in China, and we all knew that China was gonna stand up over the next several decades, and it seemed so exciting, the prospect of staying there and being part of it and helping them.

And that's, I guess, when I think of it, the underlying character of the Americans I knew there was that everybody wanted to help China. It was so poor, and everyone wanted to help it.

And so, back to the story about, I was walking through Hong Kong with this fellow whose grandparents had been missionaries, and this artist did a caricature, and I'll never forget this. He did a caricature, and he showed it to my friend, and my friend was a little bit goofy.

He was very timid, and he had kind of a, he had one of those laughs, like he suppressed laugh, like a snigger, and it was just, so he, I remember him laughing, and the Chinese fell on misinterpreting and thinking he was laughing at the Chinese guy, at this poor guy who had been like a university art professor back before the Revolution, and now he's sitting on a street corner doing this, and thought he was laughing at him, and Boy, he exploded, and he told us, and what I found, I won't go into this, but he just exploded at us, and what I saw, what I realized was I was looking at this sense of a Century of Humiliation, and there was no doubt that they were the superior, they were the Original Country, they were the Main Race, and it just happened, because of a few hundred years they went into this depression, and the West took advantage of them and such.

However, so I always was super sensitive after that in China. Anyway, they think that we look down at them, and I never grew up with anything like that in my education, I always had nothing about great respect for them, but they think that the West looks down at them, and they're very bitter, or has for centuries, and they're very bitter about that, and there's a Century of Humiliation.

We get to the Communists, I kind of glossed over the Communists. They come in in 1949, and they, Mao Zedong, you can say a lot of good, bad, and ugly things. Just go ahead, Amy.

Is he good? He was a great revolutionary, very entrepreneurial, decentralized revolutionary leader. Once he was in charge, he did things like the Barefoot Doctor program. Mao Zedong took the life expectancy of Chinese from about 36 to 65 in about one generation.

That's an extraordinary accomplishment, no matter what else you say about him. That was, he had the bad, all kinds of silly campaigns that went into it that backfired and caused starvation. One thing he did, so after he got in power, and he ran things, he blew a bunch of things in the '50s and the early '60s, to the point he kind of was put out to pasture, and other people were running China, and he found a way to take over that's quite germane to what's going on in America.

It was called the Cultural Revolution. Guanhua Da Gu Ming Xie Hou [?] the Time of the Great Cultural Revolution. And in that, he found that you could take over a country if you could speak to the culture.

You didn't need to fire a shot. He identified, he said there were five bad types of Chinese people, and they were the landlords, the capitalists, the rich peasants, counterrevolutionaries, and anyone else he said that was a "bad element". And they, the young people of China were released from the universities to be Red Guards.

They're like Antifa, the Red Guards, and they went around purifying the countryside, grabbing teachers who had any of this kind of background, grabbing, going into the countryside, sometimes killing them, often humiliating, torture, driving them, make walk around town with a dunce cap and a note that says "I'm a reactionary running dog" and that kind of stuff, all to humiliate them.

But it was really psychological warfare, because the other thing he was saying was "If you come from one of these families, you can't escape it. This bad rests on you, and your only way out of it, young men and women, is to become Red."

That's the only identification that you can adopt that rectifies this. If you come from a capitalist family, if you come from a landlord family, all your doors are closed and you're a bad unless you become Red.

And so it harnessed all that natural inclination, especially of youth who wanna fit in and wanna be part of something and fit in and find a girlfriend and stuff and be cool, to become as Red as possible.

And I just mention this because what you're experiencing in America is a Maoist Cultural Revolution "with American Characteristics", where the identities, the bad identities are being white, Christian – especially male – cisgendered, meaning straight, and whatever else. You're probably a capitalist, and all that's bad.

And the way that if you're a youth, the cool thing to be is Woke, and that sort of doesn't matter what your background is, once you become a Social Justice Warrior, Palestinian Activist or whatever.

So he dies, Deng Xiaoping came over, who was much more reasonable.

Anyway, what has emerged over the 50 years since then is there are three factions in the CCP. One faction is their view of life is, "Look, Communism was necessary to end our feudal past. We had fallen 500 years behind the West. We needed a strong hand to cut that off and bring us forward and look at all the good the Chinese Communist Party has done for us, but now it is time we sort of emerge like Singapore, and the political authoritarianism can be reduced, and we can now emerge as something like Singapore, but on a much larger level."

There's another group that just is more like they wanna keep things as it has been.

But there's a third group, the most hawkish group within the Chinese Communist Party who thinks it's really China's destiny to rule the world, and they wanna reduce all the rest of the world into a vassal state status of China, of Beijing, have a global order balanced or centered on Beijing with them as the global hegemon, and their basic deal for the world, as we've seen in Africa, as they go.

They say, "Look, all we care about is order. We're gonna tear down that mountain and take all the bauxite or all the iron, and we're gonna build a city for 100,000 of our workers. They're gonna move here. We're gonna take down that mountain, and when we're done, we're gonna hand the keys over to you, Mr President, and all we ask is that nobody disturb us, and you do anything you need to do to keep order.

So that's why dictators are very quick to sign up with China as their sponsor, as their government. And the nations where they're doing that are the ones that will be under dictatorship, unless something good happens.

There was a book, 90 years ago, everybody in college would have read a book by Crane, 'The Anatomy of Revolution', which is about, he studied four different revolutions, and in three of them, discovered they have the same pattern.

You have the old order. The order breaks down. You get something like a democracy emerging, but the more radical elements, it starts very radical, and then the most radical, the Jacobins in France, the Bolsheviks in the Russian Revolution, Cromwell in English, the most extreme elements end up taking over.

It didn't happen in the United States, probably because of one man, George Washington, because he was the one that, when he got power, really didn't want to keep it, and was willing to instigate.

But this pattern that Crane noticed is what has happened in China, and this third faction is the faction that has emerged. This is Xi Jinping's faction, and his view of the world, moving forward, is, well, I'm gonna talk about now. So now we get to the Chinese-US conflict.

There was a book by a couple of Chinese generals about 30 years ago called 'Unrestricted Warfare' that says, "We should understand warfare. We do understand warfare differently than the West. For us, there's layers of warfare, before you ever get to anything kinetic. There's diplomatic warfare, economic and financial, there's network-centric, then you get to terrorism, and then finally, bullets flying."

And in the Chinese worldview, the greatest victory is to win without fighting. Remember, they've said that for 2,500 years. The greatest victory is to win without fighting.

We Americans only understand number five as war. That's why we've only, in the last four years or so, woken up to what's going to happen, what's been going on we've woken up to, but the first three have been going on for two decades. The first three have been going on for two decades, and we're just kinda sitting here fat, dumb, and happy and taking it and not seeing what they were doing.

There's 'The Secret Speech of Chi Haotian'. There was a man who was at one time, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the Secretary of Defense, and the Vice Chairman of the Party. Imagine holding all those hats at once. When he retired in 2003, he gave a speech of what has to be done, and it's "Two Tigers Cannot Live on One Mountain". In other words, "It's us or them". It's China or the US.

The US wants us to grow and live in harmony, but that's just not the way the world works. Two tigers, there's gonna be a showdown between us, and they've already written the – oh, by the way, that showdown, this speech, you should look up. As crazy as what's gone on in the last four years, you'll see, it's right out of this.

The speech was in '03, it leaked in '08 and it says, "We're gonna hit America with a bioweapon to destabilize it and knock it into civil war. Once there's civil war, if it ever happened, 90%, it's all been modeled-out in the national security circles, 90% of us die in one year from the collapse of supply chains in food, fuel, and pharmaceuticals.

There's a book about it, called 'One Second After' that you should read, if you're a prepper and it doesn't hold the view, like the old Hollywood movie of 'Red Dawn', there's gonna be cargo planes with parachuters that you fight. That's not how it happens.

They create a 'Walking Dead' environment for us, and in a Walking Dead world, once the trucks aren't rolling and, you know, the average American is eating food 1,500 miles from his home, or he's 1,500 miles from his home. All that craters much more quickly than you might instinctively think; sort of two to four weeks.

So their goal is to create that, and then we collapse, the cartels are given three years to rape, pillage, loot, and burn, and when there's nothing left but a husk, they occupy.

The last 30 million, they sweep and make slaves out of, and this is all in the guy's speech: "30 million whites". They're very racist. They only want whites. They don't want anyone else – and that's just for a few years, to turn over the keys of how everything works.

Then we're gone, and what they have is "New China".

There for 2,500 years, their biggest problem is lack of arable land. Only 4% of China is arable. They have also polluted about 90% of their groundwater, so they've really painted themselves into a corner.

They intend, and this was actually in 1993, after the Soviets fell, the Chinese went to Russia, and they were afraid of what they'd seen, and they made a deal, and the deal is Russia is gonna get Alaska and western Canada. China gets the US and eastern Canada, and everyone is exterminated.

This becomes New China. It becomes the greatest farm in the world, and they occupy it as New China, and that's why I think that's why they don't care that they've polluted 90% of their own groundwater.

That's the plan, and if this sounds as crazy and extreme as it may, don't take my word for it. Go and Google this phrase, the secret speech of Chi Haotian, and they've never denied this leak. They've never denied it. It's the highest level leak in Chinese history. That's their plan for us.

Their coming party line they've already written is that, "The greatest civilization on Earth fell into a 400-year depression. The West took advantage of it and humiliated China. China emerged and pulled the rug out from under the greatest hegemon that ever existed, the USA. They occupied the country, liquidated everybody, and turned it into a farm." That's the party line they've already written.

I think we dodged this fate once, in the last few years by the same distance that that bullet grazed Trump's cheek. I think we were much closer to this happening four years ago than we are. And what we were living through was all engineered to bring this about.

Another great book to read on this is Michael Pillsbury, the '100-Year Marathon', and Michael Pillsbury has like a protege of Peter Navarro, who's in Trump's circle.

You see Peter Navarro. That's this thing, and what they discovered is that Chinese has a very interesting way to communicate. Once you can sort of speak conversationally in Chinese, they use about 50 parables, and the parables usually end with just a few words, four words or eight words that sum up on this whole mountain.

"But when he was old and his children had grown up, he started carrying stones down from the top of the mountain and dropping them in the lake," and he had his children start coming and carrying stones down and dropping them in the lake.

And finally some city slicker came by and said, "Old fool, what are you doing? You can't pull down this mountain!" and the old fool looked at the city slicker and said, "Well, if I keep taking stones down and my children are carrying stones down, and their children are, and we keep doing this, doesn't the mountain eventually have to come down?" So the old man moved the mountain, and that's a parable that just means like "Stick-to-itiveness gets things done."

So when I was learning Chinese, sometimes I would chat with a guard at the gate of this university, and these old men, they'd sit around playing cards at night, and I'd chat, and they'd say, "How are your studies coming?" And I'd say, "Oh, old friend, old man, it's so difficult. Your language is so difficult that I can't!"

And they would say, "Ah, Patrick, 'Old Man Moves Mountain', and it just means, "If you just keep at it..."

So, but as you converse, and there's about 40 or 50 of these expressions everyone knows. Educated people know a couple hundred. There's dictionaries of thousands of them. But it means that you can converse on two levels in a way...it's amazing.

You can be having one conversation with, you can be in a conversation and people wanna lose you. They sort of drift into these parables, "But don't forget, the old man lost his horse." "Yes, but Princess Yu hides the jade."

And if you don't know what one of them means, you've totally lost the thread of the conversation. Well, it turns out their national security communication had such a plan in it. And they all knew a book that was extremely obscure, at least to the West.

It's called 'The 36 Stratagems of the Warring States Period'. So it was Sun Tzu, it's classical Chinese. And there was a 300-year warring state period from 500 to 200 BC.

And when they finished, it was all the first time China was consolidated. A book was written, that sort of documented the 36 strategies and it's things like, "Hide a knife behind a smile," "Make noise to the East as you strike to the West", which seems kind of germane today, doesn't it? Isn't that interesting?

That's just what Trump just did. He made noise with these bombers flying to Guam and then struck to the West.

"Defeat the enemy by capturing his chief". "Besiege Wei or rescue Zhao". "If you're going up against somebody who's too tough for you, find something that he cherishes and attack that."

And so it's these 36 strategies. And it turns out that if you knew these strategies, if you knew this book, 'The Art of War', you could understand the national security communication in a new way.

And what Michael Pillsbury, who has had access, he's been part of that world for 50 years, was once he realized, I came back from China able to sort of read at the newspaper-level and then spent my senior year studying classical Chinese and I went out and got this book 10 years ago and checked all this.

Yes, when they are communicating, there are these hidden messages. Like I said, you could speak at two different levels in Chinese.

They would look like they were saying one thing at one level, that they were gonna be friendly with the US and join us in building an international framework. Underneath it all, they were "hiding a knife behind a smile". And the plan was ultimately, and there's been talk since about 2005 that we've seen in America, in their national security discourse, about a coming "Assassin's Mace".

There's a story about a king. Two kings are about to fight, but one king gets an assassin in the bedroom of the other and kills him with a club. And so, the kingdom falls and the king takes over. So an Assassin's Mace is sort of a one-blow knockout, a surprise one-blow knockout.

And for 20 years, they've been whispering about a coming Assassin's Mace for the USA. And I think we just walked into it four years ago. And I think the historical election was the Assassin's Mace.

And I think, now that we're through this, I mean, at least part way, I can tell you that General Flynn and I spoke in late January, 2021. I said, "What are the chances we get through this?" He said, "About 5%. And the chance we get to 2024, have an election that can be won is about 5%."

They almost had us defeated.

And I have to say, and I say this, I'm not, I've made clear, you know, I was raised as a practicing Catholic, and though I practiced a lot, I never got any better. I wasn't really part, I never, wasn't really part of the evangelical community.

But I do have to say, the only reason that history's gonna record, the only reason they did not get away with it, the part of America that did not bend was the Christian community. And that's the only reason we got through. So, and that's why I made this kind of my base.

I moved down South, people picked up quickly. I wasn't exactly, anyway, I'm from New Hampshire, Vermont, New England, but they picked up that I, anyway, but that's why I made my base, the evangelical, the Christian community in the South, because these are the only folks who got what was going on in our country. The rest were too busy adjusting their masks.

OK. So it's called the "100-Year Marathon", because they established the goal, when they took power in 1949, of being done by 2049. And even if the goal was to get to 100 years, the goal for the world is just that they're the global hegemon, and everything sort of falls into order under China.

They have these special plans for us. They need to make an example out of us, like I've explained.

In 2010, they accelerated their target date from 2049 to 2030. After they got through the election of 2020, they actually said, "It's all gonna be over by 2028, maybe 2027."

They have issued, in China, deeds on your homes. Every nice home in America has a deed, just given to some Chinese colonel or major or general or Communist Party guy, and he gets on Google Earth, he looks at your home once a month, he thanks you for that outdoor swimming pool you put in last summer, he's gonna enjoy that.

He thinks he's there by 2028, maybe 2027. At least, in 2021, they thought they were that close. They thought that when that election was stolen, they thought they were there, and they distributed deeds in China to their high-level people on American homes.

And again, you think you're gonna hide behind, you're gonna be taking on Chinese paratroopers, aren't getting the joke. It's not gonna be anything like that.

They wanna collapse us into a 'Walking Dead' world, and then, we take care of 90% of the problem ourselves.

And the cartels get three years, that's why the 20 million people were admitted, 20 million military-age men, that's why they were admitted the last four years. I've seen refugee streams all over the world. There are old men, old women, little kids.

It's not, some of these streams coming in were 90% military-age men. They were here to fight. And Obama, if you look this up, in 2016, his last year, Obama went and bought about three million AR-15s, a trillion rounds of ammunition, and scattered it all over the country, different federal agencies, and actually on Indian reservations.

A lot of Native Americans are very patriotic, like the Navajo. But there are some very Left-Wing Indian tribes, and some of the stuff is scattered in depots on Indian tribes. And that was in preparation for the 20 million people who they knew they were gonna let in.

Oh, this is an aside. Those of you, if you follow anthropology, you know, you were probably taught in school, if you believe in this stuff, that we all emerged from Africa and have gone through different iterations.

They [the Chinese] have a different, they, in the early, well, they have something called Peking Man. It's about three and a half million years old, and they tried very, very hard to say, the Chinese Communist Party has, since the '60s, tried very, very hard to establish that they are actually a separate species, that they are a different, that they don't buy into the out-of-Africa theory, and that there was a different hominoid that emerged and evolved, and there's some interbreeding, but basically, that they are a special species.

Well, you don't need much imagination, and now it's all been totally discredited by genetic work, and we can all, they can map exactly how humans migrated and populate around the world, where we came from at a genetic level, but they were very attached to this theory, sort of uncomfortably attached, and there's only one reason that they put that much energy into trying to prove this theory.

The org chart of the attack we're up against, the chain of command is China, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, then Mexico, and we understand the Mexican cartels.

Mexico's a failed state. It's a cartel, there's four cartels in Mexico, the Sinaloan, Jalisco Nuevo Generation, Gulf, and Zeta, and these mafias all report to the parent mafia. The parent mafia is Venezuela's mafia, and the Venezuelan mafia has a name. It's called the Government of Venezuela. Venezuela is where nation state and mafia, mafia turns into nation state. It's a pure mafia that runs Venezuela.

It's actually called the Cartel de los Soles, the "Mafia of the Suns". That's a reference to generals in Venezuela don't have stars, they have a sun on their shoulder. So to say the Mafia of the Suns is a reference to, it's the mafia of the generalissimo.

In Venezuela, the capos of the mafia are the generals of the army. It's very interesting...It's as if the Corleone Family became the government, and the different capos, the bosses in the mafia are the generalissimos in the military. So this is what we're up against. China's very patient.

There's a famous story, Deng Xiaoping was once asked, "Whose revolution was correct, the American Revolution or the French Revolution?" Deng Xiaoping thought for a minute, and he said, "Too early to tell."

I think that 25 years ago, they set this motion. Well, Hugo Chavez was a creature of Fidel Castro. He was a junior Fidel Castro from Cuba, and he was set on his path by '93. By 99, he's in.

They created, you know, Venezuela's the largest oil reserves in the world. It's bigger than Saudi Arabia, and they took over, and they looted the oil. We know they've looted $4 trillion.

As their own people have starved, to the point of cannibalism, the mafia looted $4 trillion, and they did that by seizing the national oil, nationalizing the oil company and just looting.

But if you're sitting over the world's biggest gasoline station and looting it, and you've nationalized the company, what's the other thing you need to steal? You need to steal the election system. And they took over the election commission, and they created a technology that could let them steal elections, and then they sent three young men to Boca Raton, who formed a Delaware corporation called Smartmatic.

And then, Smartmatic, that was the commercial front for the Venezuelan Regime, and that's all it is, it's a front for the Venezuelan mafia.

And Smartmatic is the core technology package of everything we vote on. So that was the Assassin's Mace. That was the strike. And I think that it is a miracle that we survived what happened in the last four years. We were never supposed to get through this.

We've been driven into a pattern that anthropologists say, "Genocides always follow a certain pattern. There's polarization of society, tribalization, demonization, and genocide."

And that's what we were up against, these last four years. And how to defeat the plan is, it's funny: they win if we hate each other. If we Americans start fighting and hating each other, they win.

So as tough as it may be, we have to be about love and peace. First rule, if you know the 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy', first rule in all situations, you don't panic. You prep, we should, every household needs to prep, especially given what just happened last night.

30, 60, 90 days of food, society would be much more robust if every household were prepped like this. Food, don't forget pharmaceuticals. Average people over 50, half of us were walking around on conditions that without pharmaceuticals were dead in six months.

Arms and bullets, sic vis pacem parabellum. "If you want peace, prepare for war". Well-ordered militia, I've become a huge fan of the militia movement.

The militia movement, again, it was this, I think that we were, right in the balance. And the only reason we got to this election is because they thought they had it rigged. And everything was in the balance, and I think we just got stuff formed enough that we were able to hold back.

And then, of course, all the election integrity work is, but we've done the heavy lifting on that. At this point, it's gotta be the DOJ and the White House, that they can solve with a few pen strokes, everything that needs to be taken care of to fix this.

Don't forget as well the words of the greatest Republican of all time, Frederick Douglass. I'll close on these words. He said, "A man's rights rests on three boxes, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box."

Thank you.'

[Full transcript with Q&A following this presentation appears beneath video linked HERE:
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/patrick-byrne-countering-the-chinese-absorption-of-the-usa/] "

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[onawah]

China's role in US 2020 election voter fraud

Former FBI Director Referred for Criminal Prosecution Related to 2020 Voter Fraud
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Jul 02, 2025
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Chinese election interference cover-up
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FBI whistleblower Steve Friend joins ‘The Will Cain Show’ to assess recalled intelligence report showing Chinese interference in the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election.y0dF4PL3ONE

"US CITIZEN DATA ("PII") HARVESTED FROM TIKTOK WAS REPORTEDLY BEING USED TO CREATE THESE FAKE IDS, TO ENABLE ILLEGAL VOTERS TO USE THOSE REAL DETAILS ON MAIL-IN BALLOTS TO VOTE FOR BIDEN

(VIDEO at: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/grassley-shares-declassified-emails-on-fbis-suppressed-intel-on-chinas-potential-2020-meddling/

Declassified FBI emails released on Tuesday by Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) show how two senior executive women at the FBI worked to bury reports of a Chinese government plot to steal tens of thousands of votes for Joe Biden in the 2020 election, because they would contradict FBI Director Christopher Wray's testimony before Congress.

According to comments by FBI personnel in these redacted emails, Nikki Floris, then the head of the FBI's Counterintelligence Division and Tonya Ugoretz, then the deputy head of the FBI's Cyber Division worked to bury the FBI's Albany Field Office Intelligence Information Report on the Chinese government's fabrication of US driver's licenses for use by illegal voters. Both women's careers have continued to advance within the FBI ever since.

A Confidential Human Source (CHS) told FBI investigators in Albany that US Citizen data harvested from TikTok was being used to create these fake IDs, to enable illegal voters to use this real Personally Identifiable Information (PII) on mail-in ballots to vote for Joe Biden.

The CHS' information was coherent with open source reports in July 2020 from the US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) that "fraudulent driver's licenses … continue to be found by CBP officers" at Chicago O'Hare International Airport. Between January and June of 2020, CBP said its officers had "seized 1,513 shipments with fraudulent documents — a total of 19,888 counterfeit US drivers' licenses [and] the majority of these shipments were arriving from China and Hong Kong, with other seized shipments arriving from Great Britain and South Korea."

Last Thursday, the Oversight Project referred Wray for criminal prosecution, alleging that he lied to Congress about voter fraud, and gave false testimony regarding the agency's targeting of Catholics.

Beneath the video linked HERE:
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/grassley-shares-declassified-emails-on-fbis-suppressed-intel-on-chinas-potential-2020-meddling/
...is a transcript I made of the 47 pages of declassified FBI emails released by Senator Grassley. I transcribed them, because the original PDF is copyguarded and this text needs to be crawled by Google, etc.

A strange claim in these emails from a sub-source of this same FBI informant that's not being talked about is that, "The Chinese Government had underground bases in Republican states to disperse Coronavirus."

WTF?

This Substack is reader-supported."

[rgray222]

Tibet and China clash over next reincarnation of the Dalai Lama

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The Dalai Lama in ceremonial wear at the Kirti Monastery in Dharamshala, India. Photograph: Ashwini Bhatia/AP

A couple of years ago, during a meeting of Tibetan leaders in Dharamshala in India, Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama, was asked about his reincarnation. Addressing the room of monks, religious teachers and Tibetan politicians, the Dalai Lama asked them to look into his eyes. “Do you think it’s time now?” he asked.

It was a meeting that would end with the Tibetan leaders agreeing that the issue of reincarnation was one that would be decided only by the Dalai Lama himself. But China, which annexed Tibet in 1951 and has retained tight control over the region ever since, has other ideas. It insists that the choice of the next Dalai Lama lies only with China, and have even enshrined this right into Chinese law.

The Dalai Lama, who recently turned 86, has insisted that discussions of his death are premature (according to his own visions, he will live to 113). But a power struggle for who will choose his reincarnation after he dies has already begun.

“We are looking at the highly likely situation that when the 14th Dalai Lama dies, there will be two Dalai Lamas named in his place,” said Robert Barnett, a Tibetan expert. “One selected on the basis of instructions left behind by His Holiness the Dalai Lama and one chosen by the Chinese Communist party.”

Yet China is not the only country now keeping a watchful eye on the Dalai Lama’s succession. Since 1959, the Dalai Lama has lived in exile in Dharamshala, nestled in the Himalayas, and Tibet has remained a sensitive factor in India’s relationship with China, with whom it shares a 2,000-mile border. India has control over the Dalai Lama’s movements, both within India and abroad.

But as relations with China have deteriorated to historic lows over the past year due to deadly border aggression, there has been increased pressure on the Indian government to strengthen its Tibet policy in order to counter China, including declaring that only the Dalai Lama can choose his successor. Last month, in what was described as a “significant departure” from previous policy, Indian prime minister Narendra Modi wished the Dalai Lama happy birthday on Twitter and, according to the president of the Tibetan parliament-in-exile, a meeting is planned between the two this year.

The controversies over the Dalai Lama’s successor are likely to have a direct impact on India; one possible scenario put forward by the Dalai Lama himself is that he could be reincarnated in a “free country”, likely to be India rather than Tibet.

Last week, it emerged that several members of the Dalai Lama’s inner circle, as well as senior figures in the Tibetan Central Administration, which operates out of Dharamshala, were among those selected as potential targets for surveillance with Pegasus spyware made by NSO group. Analysis suggests it was the Indian government selecting the potential surveillance targets. The Indian government denies any surveillance.

India is not alone in seeing the Dalai Lama’s succession as a matter of geopolitical importance. Last year, in a direct shot at China, the US revised its Tibet policy to declare that only Tibetans had the right to select the next Dalai Lama.

According to teachings, each Dalai Lama is a reincarnation of the Avalokiteśvara, who embodies the compassion of all Buddhas. He is both the foremost spiritual leader of the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism and in many times past and present also a political leader of the Tibetans.

Traditionally, after he dies, a search begins in Tibet to find his reincarnation, based on signs such as where he was looking when died, which direction the smoke blows when he is cremated and visions interpreted from Lhamo La-tso, an oracle lake in Tibet. Based on these visions, search parties are sent out to find children born around the date of his death who match these visions and are then put through a series of tests, until the right one is divined. While most Dalai Lamas have been found in Tibet, one was born in Mongolia and another in an area that is now India.

But with Tibet under the control of China, this process which led to the discovery of two-year-old Lhamo Dhondup – now known as Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama – in a small farming village in north-eastern Tibet in February 1940, is unlikely to be repeated. It is now enshrined in law that the Chinese government must approve all reincarnations of senior Buddhist Lamas (teachers), including the Dalai Lama, a position that was strongly reiterated in a Tibet white paper released by China in May this year, on the 70th anniversary of its annexation of Tibet.

Full Story and Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/31/tibet-and-china-clash-over-next-reincarnation-of-the-dalai-lama

Central Tibetan Administration - https://tibet.net/china-has-no-historical-religious-and-political-rights-to-interfere-in-dalai-lamas-reincarnation-issues/

[onawah]

Keeping in mind that the Dalai Lama took the COVID vaxx and encouraged everyone to do likewise.
As I recall, so did Sadhguru https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fprem-rawat-bio.org%2Fsatpal%2F20gurus%2FSadhguru-Jaggi-Vasudev-1024x530.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=dc4dc85de5fc39830210a6e2d259f1ff782af5e7eca2ee807286cbdc9adb293f
See: https://isha.sadhguru.org/es/wisdom/article/el-movimiento-antivacunas-opinio-de-Sadhguru
...and other famous spiritual teachers did as well.
The vaccine which has killed and badly injured countless people around the world and is still doing so.
Not really very wise men, are they?

[Merkaba360]

'China’s Digital Yuan Experiment FAILING — Citizens REJECT State Money, Panic GROWS
China’s grand experiment with the digital yuan is spiraling out of control. Citizens are rejecting it, merchants are ditching it, and the government is panicking. The very currency that was supposed to give Beijing total financial control is being pushed back by the people. And now, a wave of economic distrust is spreading fast. What was once pitched as the future of money is now triggering fear, confusion, and chaos.
Why are Chinese citizens suddenly abandoning the digital yuan, even under government pressure? What unexpected resistance is rising in cities like Shenzhen, Chengdu, and Hangzhou? And how is this digital currency backlash shaking China’s financial future?
To understand why the digital yuan is unraveling so fast, we have to go back to how this all began — and what Beijing hoped to achieve.'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4tyqNV63KE?si=B85xhhBzGMhkpXtK

And in context of Patrick Byrnes speech on this thread. The Chinese highly value education. If Patrick is right about all their domination plans, do they not realize that heavily educating your people is not gonna make it easy to get them to go along with all the plans. They will be skeptical and push for their own plans. Like not likely this money system and rebelling against more and more control.
Also, controlling, conquering and enslaving Caucasian people is no small feat. Just ask our elite lol

[Merkaba360]

Also, if Patrick is right about the 3 chinese govt factions , does that mean Trump winning and putting the pressure back on their economy is causing the other factions to want their agenda to take over? Like hey , you lost the game of imploding America, now step down before our country crashes.

That would mean Lei's reporting is correct and a change in leadership is occurring. Does that mean they will switch to a new plan of being a giant Singapore? That would be great for the world right?

If he is correct and America did all that to keep Russia and Europe from carving up china, then that would sure be a ****ty way to thank us. Not to mention how our IP and tech and consumers played a big role in lifting them up into prosperity. Their hard work too. Great way to repay us. smh.

I think the biggest issue is their crappy farmland and not so great resource situation in general. They need more land . Although, since they are so damn patient, how about just wait out their population collapse, and China will have plenty once their population rapidly declines, given the real population that isnt 1.4 billion, and the 1.1 fertility rate is super low. plus outward migration.

[muxfolder]

Just saw the Patrick Byrnes video. Wasn't it Jordan Maxwell who used to speak of this same thing? Only it might have Russia doing that exactly same thing.

EDIT: Ok, I found the video. Maybe the people behind these plans changed it so it's now China trying to bring down US.
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[onawah]

Yes, I'd say it's the same basic approach the Russian Communist Party has used against the US that China has been using more recently, but the current tactics from the CCP are even more diabolical, more covert, and on an even larger scale.
But the same POV, that Communism must rule the world, only now with the CCP lusting covertly after the global throne.
The CCP's form of Communism looks to be as self-destructive as the USSR's was-- so much propaganda, so little truth, and so little care for their own people that eventually the people reach the tipping point and then the whole ship goes down.


Just saw the Patrick Byrnes video. Wasn't it Jordan Maxwell who used to speak of this same thing? Only it might have Russia doing that exactly same thing.

EDIT: Ok, I found the video. Maybe the people behind these plans changed it so it's now China trying to bring down US.
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[muxfolder]

Yeah, I'd say they switched to China after they realized Russia is not strong enough to pull this plan off. At least not yet. But it was said however that Russia and China will do all of this together and looking at what Putin has already done. He's now allies with Iran, China, North Korea and all of those other countries that simply want us Americans/Europeans dead. I'm sure none of us wouldn't want to live in that world, that's for sure. Basically this is the great reset the WEF is talking about. WW3 and build back "better" like the way the elite wants. And that's gonna be the China-model like in those movies/tv-shows they've been pushing where everything and everyone is under very strict surveillance. And of course, people are eating bugs while those elites are having juice steaks. :yuck:

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vNq9UKDDu9k --6/7/25--51 min--- --'One of Xi Jinping’s most loyal followers, Ma Xingrui, Party Secretary of Xinjiang, has been suddenly dismissed. A close confidant of Xi’s wife, Peng Liyuan, Ma’s downfall not only signals Xi’s weakening grip on power—but also exposes a far more shocking secret: Xi may be planning to flee China. According to a source in Beijing, Xi fears severe backlash, and Peng has been quietly preparing an escape plan for the family. Behind the scenes, she and Ma were plotting his exit route. This program reveals the inside story of a collapsing regime—and a leader preparing to run before it’s too late.'

[onawah]

I've seen reports that other members of Xi's family have been living abroad for quite some time already. His daughter attended Harvard and reports say she currently lives in Massachusetts.. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT9iN3qRAGw

And from NTD, a similar report on Xi's decline here:
Formation of New CCP Leadership Group Signals Xi Jinping Losing Power
China in Focus - NTD
775K subscribers
7/1/25
"The Chinese regime is introducing a new form of group leadership -- something can directly challenge Xi's grip of power. A veteran China analyst sheds light on the matter."
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6/7/25 --'One of Xi Jinping’s most loyal followers, Ma Xingrui, Party Secretary of Xinjiang, has been suddenly dismissed. A close confidant of Xi’s wife, Peng Liyuan, Ma’s downfall not only signals Xi’s weakening grip on power—but also exposes a far more shocking secret: Xi may be planning to flee China. According to a source in Beijing, Xi fears severe backlash, and Peng has been quietly preparing an escape plan for the family. Behind the scenes, she and Ma were plotting his exit route. This program reveals the inside story of a collapsing regime—and a leader preparing to run before it’s too late.'

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This report from just a few days ago, also by Lei, is indicative of more proof the predictions of Xi's downfall are not just rumors.

Rocket Force wiped clean—again, as Xi takes order from his new boss
Lei's Real Talk
321K subscribers
Jul 1, 2025

"CCP politics is getting wild. Xi Jinping has effectively announced he’s no longer in control—and the Rocket Force is being purged for the second time in two years. A new decision-making body now outranks Xi, signaling the quiet collapse of his era. Zhang Youxia, gambling everything, is expanding a sweeping purge across the PLA—removing Xi’s loyalists from the Air Force and Navy. Even the Rocket Force, once rebuilt by Xi himself, isn’t spared. This isn’t just a reshuffle—it’s an internal coup disguised as a normal transition. As the CCP fractures, China enters uncharted territory—and the world should take notice.
1. Xi Jinping's new boss
2. Zhang Youxia's relentless purge in the military "

Reference:
[url]https://www.gov.cn/yaowen/liebiao/202506/content_7030021.htm[/url
The article from the Reference listed above is as follows:


The Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee held a meeting to review the "Working Regulations of the Decision-making, Deliberative and Coordinating Bodies of the CPC Central Committee". Xi Jinping, General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee, presided over the meeting
2025-06-30 13:32 Source: Xinhua News Agency
The Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee held a meeting
to review the "Working Regulations of the Decision-making, Deliberative and Coordinating Bodies of the CPC Central Committee".
Xi Jinping, General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee, presided over the meeting

Xinhua News Agency, Beijing, June 30 (Xinhua) -- The Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee held a meeting on June 30 to review the "Work Regulations of the Decision-making, Deliberative and Coordinating Bodies of the CPC Central Committee." Xi Jinping, General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee, presided over the meeting.

The meeting pointed out that the establishment of the Party Central Committee's decision-making, deliberative and coordinating bodies is an important institutional arrangement to improve the Party Central Committee's centralized and unified leadership over major work and promote the implementation of major tasks. The formulation and promulgation of the "Working Regulations of the Party Central Committee's Decision-making, Deliberative and Coordinating Bodies" further standardizes the establishment, responsibilities and operation of the Party Central Committee's decision-making, deliberative and coordinating bodies, which is of great significance for giving full play to the top-level design, overall coordination, overall promotion and supervision of the implementation of major work.

The meeting stressed that the decision-making, deliberative and coordinating bodies of the CPC Central Committee should accurately grasp their responsibilities, insist on planning, deliberating and grasping major tasks, implement more effective leadership and coordination of major tasks, and ensure that overall planning does not replace others, and that they are in place but not overstepping their authority. In-depth investigation and research should be conducted to improve the quality and efficiency of decision-making and deliberative work, and to propose practical and effective policy measures. We should avoid formalism and bureaucracy, and work for practical results.

The meeting also examined other matters.

Meanwhile, last but not least, the systemic catastrophe of massive flooding in China proceeds as usual, it being the rainy season, and since China rarely seems to construct anything correctly or safely....

Three Gorges Dam in danger: China issues red alert as 329 rivers overflow-submerging multiple cities
Extreme Weather
198K subscribers
Jul 5, 2025

"In recent days, China has experienced relentless torrential rain, with floodwaters pouring downstream at an alarming rate. A total of 329 rivers have exceeded red-alert levels, and the Three Gorges Dam is now facing water levels of 153 meters, 7 meters above its flood-control limit. Entire regions across China are submerged.

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[onawah]

The Three Gorges Dam Nightmare Arrives, as the Yangtze Floods Sichuan With 1,000 West Lake Volume
China Observer
726K subscribers
Jul 4, 2025

"At 6pm on June 30, the largest flood peaks of the Min River and Jinsha River since the start of the 2025 flood season passed through Yibin City, Sichuan Province, at the same time. Yibin is located at the confluence of three rivers, where the Min River and Jinsha River merge and become the Yangtze River. According to monitoring data from the Yangtze River Water Resources Commission of the Ministry of Water Resources, the flood peak at Hejiang Gate in Yibin reached a water level of 267 metres at 6:00 p.m., with a maximum flow rate exceeding 20,000 cubic metres per second."

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[Jaak]

Dalai Lama was mentioned in some previous posts and i agree with those who say that this holy man aint very holy ...
Anybody who poses with the dildo-rabbi and tells kids to suck his tongue are rather suspicious for me .
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[onawah]

Some of his gaffs may simply be due to naivety and lack of exposure to the mainstream, but a truly wise man should be awake enough to untuit when the Globalists have launched a massive depopulation gameplan.

Dalai Lama was mentioned in some previous posts and i agree with those who say that this holy man aint very holy ...
Anybody who poses with the dildo-rabbi and tells kids to suck his tongue are rather suspicious for me .

[onawah]

Will Xi Jinping be Forced to "Retire" Amid His Health Crisis? | Lei
Danny Jones Clips
514K subscribers
Jul 8, 2025

"⚠️ Is Xi Jinping’s health crisis about to force him out of power? In this eye-opening episode, Chinese dissident Lei reveals insider reports suggesting that Xi Jinping’s declining health could soon push him into forced retirement. From secret hospital visits to visible changes in his public appearances, Lei explains how China’s political elite are preparing for a future without Xi at the helm.

Inside this episode:

The truth behind Xi Jinping’s rumored health problems

Why CCP factions may use his health as grounds to remove him

How a leadership transition could destabilize China’s government

What this means for China’s future and global power dynamics

🧠 If Xi steps down, the ripple effects will be felt worldwide. "

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[onawah]

'EXTRAORDINARY DANGEROUS TIME': Chang fears Xi Jinping now has incentives to do this
Fox Business
3.12M subscribers
Jul 7, 2025

"Gatestone Institute senior fellow Gordon Chang weighs in on Chinese President Xi Jinping's absence from the BRICS summit and the negotiations over the sale of TikTok."

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[onawah]

You'll Be APPALLED at What China is Hiding Behind This - Episode #271
The China Show
359K subscribers
7/11/25

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[onawah]

China's 1.4 Billion Population is a Complete Lie (It's Much Lower) | Lei
Danny Jones Clips
515K subscribers
Jul 10, 2025

(The depopulation agenda has been working very well in China! )

"💥 What if China’s 1.4 billion population was a complete lie? In this explosive episode, Chinese dissident Lei reveals insider evidence that China’s real population is far lower than the government claims. From falsified birth data to hidden death rates, Lei explains how the CCP has manipulated numbers for decades to project power, economic strength, and global influence.

Inside this episode:

Why China’s real population could be hundreds of millions lower

How falsifying data supports the CCP’s political agenda

The looming economic collapse driven by demographic decline

What a smaller population really means for China’s future as a superpower

🧠 If these numbers are true, the entire narrative about China’s rise changes overnight."

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[seekingtruth]

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[onawah]

More about the epidemic of lead poisoning in China from NTD:
China’s Toxic Outbreak: Children Poisoned by Lead With Levels 10 Times US Limit
ByVivian Li
Published: 7/10/2025
https://www.ntd.com/chinas-toxic-outbreak-kids-poisoned-by-lead-with-levels-10-times-us-limit_1078330.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-07-12&src_cmp=ntd-2025-07-12&utm_medium=email

(Video at the link)

"Discrepancies between official test results and independent hospital reports are raising questions about public health transparency and environmental oversight.
A growing health crisis in northwestern China's Gansu Province is drawing public attention, after a lead poisoning outbreak at a kindergarten left children with blood lead levels over 10 times the U.S. safety limit.

Discrepancies between official test results and independent hospital reports have sparked outrage, raising questions about public health transparency and environmental oversight."



You'll Be APPALLED at What China is Hiding Behind This - Episode #271
The China Show
359K subscribers
7/11/25

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[onawah]

China’s Broke, World’s Highest Highway Unfinished, High-Speed Rail Projects Abandoned Nationwide
China Observer
731K subscribers
Jul 15, 2025

"The Tongche River Super Bridge, a critical part of the Zhenqi Expressway, was a joint project between the governments of Yunnan and Guizhou. Located in Zhenxiong County, Yunnan Province, the bridge was planned to stretch 1,458 meters, supported by 22 piers. The average height of the bridge deck was expected to be about 70 meters, with the tallest pier reaching 222 meters, making it the tallest bridge pier under construction in Asia."MP6Kp_d-pqk

[onawah]

China’s INSANE Building Boom is Backfiring - Build Too Fast, This Is What Happens - Episode #272
The China Show
360K subscribers
7/18/25

"China is regretting this deeply."

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[onawah]

Tofu-Dreg China’s Three Gorges Dam Crisis: Sacrificing Cities to Save 30,000 Cubic Meters
China Spotlight
14.2K subscribers
164,672 views
Jul 24, 2025

"China’s Three Gorges Dam—long touted as the pinnacle of modern engineering—is now caught in a full-blown tofu‑dreg crisis. To protect key infrastructure, entire cities have reportedly been sacrificed, flooding tens of thousands of cubic meters, while communities bear the cost.

In this video, we investigate how aging and poorly constructed dams—the so‑called “tofu‑dreg” structures—are being forced to sacrifice residents to save the system. From understaffed monitoring to corner‑cutting designs, this isn’t just a disaster—it’s a pattern.

Watch as we expose the political, environmental, and humanitarian consequences of China’s dam failures and what happens when infrastructure is built to fail."

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China Insanity Pro Max WTF is Even Happening? - Episode #273
The China Show
7/25/25
361K subscribers

(The first hour is only about China-- the second part is mostly about South Africa.)
"China is out of control."

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(Clearly, reality in China today is a dystopian clown show. The contrast is fearsome and dramatic, hard to believe that it could be real, but there is no lack of credible evidence. The daily Chinese Twilight Zone.)
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[onawah]

Chinese Defector: 1 Billion People Have Gone Missing in China
Lei's Real Talk
Danny Jones
1.08M subscribers
Jul 7, 2025 Danny Jones Podcast

" Lei is an expert in Chinese finance, censorship, and life under a totalitarian government & brings a unique perspective to analyzing and interpreting geopolitics, with a particular focus on China and Sino-U.S. relations. Being bilingual and having grown up in China gives Lei a distinct advantage in accurately interpreting Chinese politics and economic affairs with native knowledge."

EPISODE LINKS
Lei's Real Talk YouTube Channel: ‪@LeisRealTalk‬
Lei's Looking Glass: ‪@LeisLookingGlass‬

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[onawah]

China’s Streets Tearing Open and Swallowing People - Why is This Happening Now? - Episode #274
The China Show
362K subscribers
8/1/25

"China is regretting this deeply. "

Some Sources -

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crk...

https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/07/31/...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...

https://www.wsj.com/world/china/a-bud...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/01/bu...

https://tiffany.house.gov/media/edito...

https://www.techradar.com/pro/securit...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featur...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/gal...

https://www.ft.com/content/69183dd8-1...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featur...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/engine...

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigat...

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[onawah]

Uncovering China's Subversion of the US From Within
Part two of the interview with Crossroads host Joshua Philipp
ByLee Hall
8/3/2025
https://www.ntd.com/uncovering-chinas-subversion-of-the-united-states-from-within-joshua-philipp_1082013.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-08-04&src_cmp=ntd-2025-08-04&utm_medium=email

(Video at the link.)

"NTD’s Lee Hall sits down in New York’s "Crossroads" studio with host and investigative journalist Joshua Philipp for the second half of this interview. Philipp talks about accidentally uncovering one of the largest Chinese spy networks in the United States, the layers of control and espionage that are used to subvert America, and why years of death threats from the Chinese mafia did not stop him from reporting the truth."

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FBI Expands Global Operations to Counter CCP With Australia, New Zealand Partnerships
By T.J. Muscaro
8/3/2025
https://www.ntd.com/fbi-expands-global-operations-to-counter-ccp-with-australia-new-zealand-partnerships_1082726.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-08-04&src_cmp=ntd-2025-08-04&utm_medium=email

(Video at the link.)

"FBI Director Kash Patel praised Australia as a critical ally as the bureau expands its fight against the influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) there and in New Zealand.

"We’re expanding global operations to confront some of the most serious threats to the American homeland: foreign influence, cyber attacks, CCP espionage, and counter narcotics,” he said in an Aug. 3 post on X. "Australia is a critical ally in that fight."
Patel made the statement upon returning from a discreet visit to both countries at the end of July, a trip that included the opening of a new standalone office in New Zealand's capital, Wellington.

The FBI said that its office in Australia’s capital, Canberra, had been used to quietly operate out of Wellington since 2017, but with a standalone office now open there, the FBI was now able to cover more of the South Pacific, including Antarctica, Samoa, Niue, the Cook Islands, and the Kingdom of Tonga.

"Our team just returned from high-level meetings with our Five Eyes partners to deepen intel-sharing, strengthen joint counterterrorism and cyber efforts, and push back against the CCP’s growing aggression in the Indo-Pacific,” he added in his post. "This is how we prepare to keep threats off our shores- before they ever get here. Thank you to our Australian partners for the renewed vision of teamwork against our adversaries.”

Patel’s visit was not announced at the time, nor did he make a public appearance or speak to the media. A video was later released by the U.S. Embassy showing a speech of his remarks, and the FBI issued a press release confirming the opening of the new office in Wellington on July 31.
“The FBI has had a strong relationship and collaborated closely with our counterparts in New Zealand for years,” said Patel in the press release. “Expanding the Wellington office demonstrates the strength and evolution of our partnership as we continue to work together to address our shared security objectives in the region.”

From there, Patel hopped over to Australia to visit the FBI’s office in Canberra and visit international Five Eyes partner agencies, which the FBI confirmed in a news release on Aug. 1.
Five Eyes consists of the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. It was founded in 1946 to share intelligence and coordinate security efforts.

Working with New Zealand partners, the FBI said it would address not just threats of the CCP, but also general foreign intelligence threats as well as criminal activities such as terrorism, cybercrime, fraud, money laundering, and child exploitation.

Meanwhile, the Chinese regime's embassy in Wellington condemned Patel’s remarks, calling them “groundless assertions” and evidence of “a Cold War mentality.”

However, after her meeting with Patel, New Zealand Attorney General Judith Collins, who oversees the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service, told her country’s parliament that she did not expect a response from China.

“This is our country, our sovereign right to do what we do,” she said.

“I think the point is that it’s a US administration decision, and we’re happy to support it. It works well for New Zealand, it’s in our best interests.”

Naziya Alvi Rahman and Rex Winderstrom contributed to this report."

[onawah]

CCP Launches Chikungunya Virus Testing in Foshan, Sparking Fears of Lockdown
By Alex Wu
8/3/2025
https://www.ntd.com/ccp-launches-chikungunya-virus-testing-in-foshan-sparking-fears-of-lockdown_1082697.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-08-04&src_cmp=ntd-2025-08-04&utm_medium=email

(Video at the link.)

"The U.S. CDC said it is considering issuing a travel notice for China as the Chikungunya virus outbreak continues its rapid spread.
As the Chikungunya fever outbreak has continued to spread in Guangdong province, Chinese authorities have adopted similar control measures to how they handled the COVID-19 pandemic, triggering public fear of a return of city wide lockdowns.

As of July 31, the total number of officially confirmed cases of Chikungunya fever reported in Foshan City, Guangdong Province, reached more than 6,000, according to Chinese state media. The first case was reported on July 8. On Aug. 1, Foshan authorities reported 333 newly confirmed cases in one day.

Chikungunya fever is a viral disease mainly transmitted to humans by mosquitoes. Its symptoms are similar to dengue fever. Patients usually experience fever, severe joint pain, muscle pain, headache, fatigue, and rash.

There is no specific antiviral treatment for Chikungunya. Deaths from the disease are rare but do occur, especially among vulnerable populations such as those with underlying health conditions.

Meanwhile, confirmed cases have also been reported in more than 10 cities in Guangdong Province, according to Guangdong Provincial Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

On July 31, the Department of Medical Emergency Response of the Chinese regime’s National Health Commission issued an urgent nationwide notice for diagnosis and treatment plans for the Chikungunya fever outbreak.

In the notice, the central authorities said there is currently no Chikungunya virus vaccine available in China. They said that “quarantine measures must be taken” for suspected and confirmed cases.

Meanwhile, local authorities in Foshan City, which is hardest-hit by Chikungunya fever, initiated a Level III public health emergency response on July 29.

In China, the official response levels are divided into four levels: Level I (extremely serious), Level II (serious), Level III (major), and Level IV (general).

Residents in Foshan City told local media that they had received an official notice that Chikungunya virus PCR screening would be conducted as part of a three day mass testing effort from July 29 to 31.

On July 30, the Shabian Village Residents Committee of Lecong Town in Shunde district, Foshan, told local media that the whole town had received notice of mass PCR screening for the Chikungunya virus for July 29 to July 31.

Videos circulating on social media showed Guangdong residents lining up for PCR testing, and epidemic prevention personnel fumigating the city to kill mosquitoes.

Spreading Outside Guangdong
The Chikungunya outbreak had spread to Macau and Beijing a few days earlier, according to local health authorities.
On July 29, health authorities in Fuzhou City, Fujian Province in southeast China, posted an alert on their WeChat public account about Chikungunya fever and dengue fever, requiring that “people returning from Foshan must monitor their health for 14 days at home.”

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it was monitoring the Chikungunya fever situation in China.

“CDC is aware of the reported chikungunya outbreak in Guangdong Province in China and is currently assessing the size and extent of the outbreak,” a CDC spokesperson told Bloomberg News. The agency said it is considering a travel warning to China.

Meanwhile, the World Health Organization (WHO) has raised concerns of another Chikungunya virus epidemic. The WHO said it was noticing the exact same early warning signs as were seen before a major outbreak two decades ago that infected more than 5 million people. That epidemic started in Kenya and spread to countries primarily in the Indian Ocean region, and South and Southeast Asia, and later, parts of tropical and subtropical Europe and the Americas.

“We are calling for urgent action to prevent history from repeating itself. There is no particular treatment for Chikungunya, so people need to avoid mosquito bites,” Dr. Diana Rojas Alvarez, a medical officer at the WHO, told reporters on July 22.

Chikungunya fever can spread rapidly. “Based on the life habits of the Aedes aegypti mosquitoes, its vector, and the virus’s activity in both humans and mosquitoes, it is estimated that in a community with a high Aedes aegypti population, a single infected person could transmit the virus to over 2,400 people through mosquito bites within 30 days,” Dr. Cheng Yuan-yu, attending physician at Shang-wen Clinic in Kaohsiung, Taiwan, who specializes in infectious diseases, told The Epoch Times on Aug. 2.

If the epidemic continues to worsen, there’s a high chance that countries will issue travel warnings, Cheng said. However, “travel bans are unlikely, as this is a disease with a low mortality rate and a low severe case rate,” he said.

“Prevention measures primarily involve monitoring and tracking incoming travelers for symptoms, particularly body temperature,” he added.

Sean Lin, assistant professor in the Biomedical Science Department at Feitian College and former U.S. army microbiologist, shared a similar assessment, saying he doesn’t think travel bans will be necessary.

He said “there is no need” for the Chinese regime to impose quarantines “because the virus isn’t transmitted from person to person but rather through mosquitoes.”

“Local authorities can generally control the epidemic by implementing mosquito control campaigns and maintaining good hygiene,” Lin told The Epoch Times on Aug. 2.

This outbreak in China is likely “related to changes in the local mosquito population and their adaptability to the virus,” Lin said, noting that “the Chinese government hasn’t been able to produce a timely research report on this.”

He added that some people who are infected by Chikungunya virus are at risk of long-term joint pain.

CCP’s Mandatory Measures Sparking Fear
Many Chinese citizens have been sharing their experiences on the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) Chikungunya control measures on social media. Some fear that the draconian lockdown measures that the CCP employed during the three-year COVID-19 pandemic may come back.
A Foshan resident infected with Chikungunya virus posted a video on social media claiming they were not being allowed to leave after having a blood test at Longjiang Hospital in Shunde.

Another resident said in a video post that he has been in forced quarantine in a hospital for four days, and was being monitored by medical staff 24 hours a day. The video showed security guards at the quarantine site.

Others commented on social media about Foshan’s mass testing and “long lines,” reminiscent of the long testing lines for COVID-19 during the pandemic.

“Do we need to be quarantined? Will they lock down the city?” another post read. “No way! Why do we have to wear masks every day again?” another comment read.

On July 29, CCP officials held a national video and telephone conference in Beijing on Chikungunya fever prevention and control, including launching a mosquito eradication campaign. A video on social media showed the Foshan government deploying a large number of armed police officers to “exterminate mosquitoes.”

A Chinese citizen commented on the video, “The armed police has even been deployed. This feels a bit serious.”

Another comment read, ”Are they planning to lock down Foshan and Shunde?”

Tang Bing, Luo Ya, and Reuters contributed to this report.
From The Epoch Times "

[onawah]

Thriller Showcasing Beijing’s ‘Unrestricted War’ Screened on Capitol Hill
ByEva Fu
7/31/2025
https://www.ntd.com/film-showcasing-beijings-unrestricted-war-screened-in-capitol_1082416.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-08-01&src_cmp=ntd-2025-08-01&utm_medium=email

(Videos at the link) (Trailer at: https://www.unrestrictedwarmovie.com/ )

"WASHINGTON—A whistleblower silenced, a vial of biological material secretly sent to China, a pandemic spilled out.

In a country where the Chinese Communist Party holds onto power at any cost and covers up truth with chilling speed, ordinary families find themselves thrust into the center of an invisible war that knows no rules or bounds, one that the regime wages worldwide.

Such is the setting in the fast-paced political thriller “The Unrestricted War,” screened on July 31 at the Rayburn House Office Building on Capitol Hill.
Inspired by real-world events in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, Canadian filmmaker Ma Yan presents a story of freedom and survival, following a respected Canadian virologist, Dr. Jim Conrad, who is forced to make an unthinkable choice between stealing national secrets from his homeland or endangering his loved ones in a country where he has built his second home.

Casey Fleming, a national security expert and author of the upcoming book “The Red Tsunami,” said the film “gets you inside of what your enemy's thinking.”
“To win this war without ever firing a shot, that's what unrestricted warfare is,” he told The Epoch Times.

He said the film is "absolutely worth your time."

"It moves very quickly. But remember," what it shows is "just the tip of the iceberg.”

While people traditionally think of war and peace in black and white terms, he said, the Chinese regime looks at the gray zone, weaponizing everything from schools to one’s next-door neighbors to achieve its goals.

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Casey Fleming at a film screening event, "Unrestricted War," at the U.S. Capitol on July 31, 2025. (Chen Lei/The Epoch Times)

In the film, espionage, media disinformation, and blackmail are some of the tactics on display as the regime plots a biowar following an accidental lab leak.

Ma said that he intended for the film to be a warning to audiences. “We need to prepare for the worst, right?” he told The Epoch Times.

“Does the Party leader intend to release the virus globally to infect the whole world? Maybe, maybe not. But under that system, it's very easy to get out of control. They will weaponize whatever they can to use it for their political purpose.”

Producer Sophia Sun had a personal brush with Chinese spycraft efforts during the 1990s.

Sun had graduated with high honors as the top student of her school. After she joined a state-linked company in Shanghai that oversaw representative offices of Western businesses in China, three separate national security agencies approached her, asking her to eavesdrop on the foreign firms.

They contacted her regularly, taking down what intelligence she had gathered and asking if she had any financial needs they could help with.

Her experience was part of the inspiration for the character Sophie Wen, who remains “blind to the dark side of the party” until a personal tragedy shakes her awake, Sun told The Epoch Times.

Sun said she had enthusiastically joined the Chinese Communist Party in college, seeing it as an honor.

“You are selected because you have good grades, you are well-behaved, you are capable,” she said. “They pretend to mean well and give you all kinds of opportunities so that you feel like you are something.”

It's only once you're deep in a scheme that you “realize that what they ask for are all the things you are not supposed to do,” she said.

Making the film wasn’t easy. Ma’s family members in China faced harassment from local officials during the production, with one losing their salary. Ethnic Chinese actors were also reluctant to appear even in the background for fear of retaliation in China.

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Uni Park, a Korean Canadian actress who stars as protagonist Chinese general Chen Wei, at a screening event for the film "Unrestricted War," at the U.S. Capitol on July 31, 2025. (Chen Lei/The Epoch Times)

Korean Canadian actress Uni Park, who portrays antagonist Gen. Chen Wei, said the film opened her eyes to how Party mechanisms enslave everyone from the top down.

At one point, the film flashes back to Chen’s girlhood during the Cultural Revolution, to a moment when her mother denounced her father in front of her and told her to be loyal to the Party.

Chen survives physically, but she’s the “walking dead,” “a puppet with no soul,” Park told The Epoch Times. And the Party, “the only thing in her whole life she worked for, faithfully and diligently,” would eventually cast her off, like a “used-up tool.”

Ultimately, Ma said, the film is about “how people can make right choices in a very difficult situation.”

Park agrees. Chen represents “an example of what happens when one's innocence, loyalty, and love have been stolen,” she said during a panel discussion prior to the screening.

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Canadian filmmaker Ma Yan at his film screening event, "Unrestricted War," at the U.S. Capitol on July 31, 2025. (Chen Lei/The Epoch Times)

“She has become a weapon shaped by a regime that understands how to exploit grief, fear, and loyalty for her country. Her true identity was stolen, like many others. And that brings me to the heart of why this story matters,” she said.

By sharing the film, Park said, she hopes “we can begin to build more compassion, courage, and empathy for those who cannot yet speak for themselves.”

The film will premiere on the streaming platform Ganjing World on Aug. 8.
From The Epoch Times "

[onawah]

US in Much More Complex Cold War With China Than With Former Soviet Union
By Steve Lance
8/6/2025
https://www.ntd.com/us-in-much-more-complex-cold-war-with-china-than-with-former-soviet-union-former-us-ambassador_1083434.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-08-07&src_cmp=ntd-2025-08-07&utm_medium=email

(Video at the link)

" Former US Ambassador Joseph Cella discussed how the Chinese Communist Party uses the United States' open trade and investment system against Americans.
Joseph Cella, principal of the Pontifex Group and former U.S. ambassador to Fiji, Kiribati, Nauru, Tonga, and Tuvalu, discussed with NTD's Steve Lance how the Chinese Communist Party uses the United States' open trade and investment system against Americans.

Cella also spoke on how dependence on China makes the United States more vulnerable and how the United States can completely mitigate risks from China."

[onawah]

This Girl Sparked a Revolution in China - This is Much Bigger than You Think - Episode #275
The China Show
362K subscribers
The China Show
8/8/25

"The protest that sparked a revolution across China has got the whole world watching what will happen next."

Some Sources -

https://www.theguardian.com/world/202...

https://www.ft.com/content/216a74ba-0...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3v...

https://www.scmp.com/news/people-cult...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g...

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[Wilbur2]

Well, I hope I don't have it. I have had mild flu-like symptoms for about a week, and a sore neck and low-grade headache. I had an episode today where I suddenly realised my memory had gone. I couldn't remember certain things, and I had to contact a family member to have them remind me. I'm not in Guangdong Province, but I'm not that far away from there....

I am guessing the memory loss is something to do with the low-grade headache and sore neck (meningitis?). Not sure whether that is a common symptom of the Chikungunya virus.

[Johnnycomelately]

Well, I hope I don't have it. I have had mild flu-like symptoms for about a week, and a sore neck and low-grade headache. I had an episode today where I suddenly realised my memory had gone. I couldn't remember certain things, and I had to contact a family member to have them remind me. I'm not in Guangdong Province, but I'm not that far away from there....

I am guessing the memory loss is something to do with the low-grade headache and sore neck (meningitis?). Not sure whether that is a common symptom of the Chikungunya virus.

Hi Wilbur. You’ll be fine. But maintain your immune system. I take 10k units of vitamin D3 each day, as well as 200 mcg of vitamin K2 to enable best D3 effects.

If it gets bad enough to scare you, prayers should be effective.

Best wishes.

[Johnnycomelately]

Big project announcement, ostensibly, from China. A deep ocean research station, a little over half as deep as the Titanic is resting.

Lots to doubt in this report, including fuzzy logic. Title states the depth goal to be 6560 feet down in Davy Jones locker, but the story says the location hasn’t been chosen. That is two unneccessary significant digits, out of three. Assuming 6k at all.

I thought of starting a new thread for this, because if it is real then it would be worth it. Decision was no, as I don’t think it will happen.

If 2030 rolls around with news of success on this, I will probably die from a confliction-related condition.

https://evidencenetwork.ca/china-plans-to-build-a-deep-sea-space-station-6560-feet-deep-set-to-be-completed-by-2030/


China plans to build a “deep-sea space station” 6560 feet deep, set to be completed by 2030.

9 August 2025 By Rosalia Neve

China’s ambitious underwater research facility marks a significant leap in marine exploration capabilities. The project, confirmed by Chinese authorities, aims to establish a permanent presence beneath the waves by 2030. This innovative installation will enable scientists to conduct extended studies of deep ocean environments at depths exceeding 6,500 feet, revolutionizing our understanding of underwater ecosystems.

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Beyond pure scientific inquiry, the station positions China advantageously regarding underwater resource exploration. The South China Sea, where this facility will likely be constructed, contains estimated hydrocarbon and methane deposits amounting to approximately 70 billion tonnes. These represent significant untapped energy resources with substantial economic potential.

The strategic positioning of this research station raises important geopolitical questions. Several nations including Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, and the Philippines contest China’s sovereign claims over parts of the South China Sea. These territorial disputes center largely on access to the valuable resources that the station aims to study.

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[Johnnycomelately]

Kind of a kharmic version of FAFO? Harrassment gone wrong anyways.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/chinese-vessels-collide-while-pursuing-philippine-boat-in-south-china-sea-manila

Chinese vessels collide while pursuing Philippine boat in South China Sea: Manila

Published Aug 11, 2025, 12:55 PM
Updated Aug 11, 2025, 02:55 PM


MANILA – A Chinese navy vessel collided with one from its coast guard while chasing a Philippines patrol boat in the South China Sea, Manila said on Aug 11, releasing dramatic video footage of the confrontation.
The incident occurred near the contested Scarborough Shoal as the Philippine coast guard escorted boats distributing aid to fishermen in the area, spokesman Commodore Jay Tarriela said in a statement.
Video released by Manila showed a China coast guard ship and a much larger vessel bearing the number 164 on its hull colliding with a loud crash.


“The (China coast guard vessel) CCG 3104, which was chasing the (Filipino coast guard vessel) BRP Suluan at high speed, performed a risky manoeuvre from the (Philippine) vessel’s starboard quarter, leading to the impact with the PLA (People’s Liberation Army) navy warship,” Mr Tarriela said.
“This resulted in substantial damage to the CCG vessel’s forecastle, rendering it unseaworthy,” he said.
The Chinese Embassy in Manila did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


The reported collision is the latest in a series of confrontations between China and the Philippines in the South China Sea, which Beijing claims almost entirely despite an international ruling that the assertion has no legal basis.


More than 60 per cent of global maritime trade passes through the disputed waterway.
The Scarborough Shoal – a triangular chain of reefs and rocks – has been a flashpoint between the countries since China seized it from the Philippines in 2012.


It was unclear if anyone was hurt in the Aug 11 incident.
Mr Tarriela told AFP the Chinese crew “never responded” to the Filipino ship’s offer of assistance.
Earlier in the confrontation, the BRP Suluan was “targeted with a water cannon” by the Chinese but “successfully” evaded it, Mr Tarriela’s statement said. AFP


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Edit: tried to embed the tweet, failed (forgot?). 4 vid clips there.

[onawah]

China Panics - Economy in Freefall - Tries to Delete Damning Videos That Show Proof - Episode #276
The China Show
362K subscribers
LIVE now 8/15/25

"This needs so much more attention. China's factories are closing, burning, and people are abandoning industry. Workers are revolting en masse, and China is trying desperately to hide it from the west so that people keep investing in their broken economy. "

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[onawah]

China is on the verge of seeing a major collapse
Fox Business
3.16M subscribers
Aug 5, 2025

(Not to mention all the factory fires, which disgruntled workers are starting due to not getting paid for months. )

"Gatestone Institute senior fellow Gordon Chang discusses the current state of China and the country's birthrate hitting below 'replacement levels.' "

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[Wilbur2]

I seem to have shaken the virus off, Johnny. The flu-like symptoms were very mild, barely got a sore throat and my system seemed to shrug it off easily. It was just the memory-loss/being in a daze thing that was concerning. But I seem to have survived it. Thanks for the encouragement!

[Wilbur2]

It used to be that for a Chinese twenty-something to contemplate not getting married and having kids, was just not feasible. They would be harassed to death by their parents, especially once they started approaching their late 20s. Their parents would start setting up dates for them, in conspiracy with other families they knew with the same problem with their own child, of the opposite sex.

In the last two or three years, suddenly not getting married, and not wanting to get married, or getting married and not having kids, has started to become much more acceptable, it seems to me. A lot of the Chinese I speak to now say that they have no intention of getting married. Something has definitely changed in the mindset over the last three years or so.

[Wilbur2]

Two years ago I was staying in a city in southern China. I don't want to say which city, because I enjoyed that city so much, and the free-spiritedness of the people there, that I don't want to do anything to tempt fate against them (or, more likely, tempt CCP action against them). The city wouldn't let me leave - more on that in a bit.

But what I mainly wanted to narrate is something I witnessed one day, as I sat at my favourite coffee shop watching the world go by. It was on a nice little street in a lane, that had two bookstores, and artsy shops. Artists and writers and musicians congregated around that area. The people there were not like typical Chinese at all. Curious and creative, uninterested in careers and money. And they mostly hated the government, and would occasionally tell me so, which was uncharacteristic of Chinese people.

The two bookstores were great. I spent far too much money in there, given that it takes me weeks and weeks to read a book in Chinese. One day, a small army of police and some self-important looking government people, turned up on the street and closed the two bookstores, without prior warning. They emptied out every single book from both bookstores, and took them away. Why? Because they could. Basically no other reason. The bookstores didn't seem to be selling books that were critical of the regime or anything like that.

The bookstores weren't even being run for profit, it seemed to me. The owners were probably running at a loss. One of the two bookstores operated as a free library. You could buy their books, but they didn't mind at all if you just sat in the store and read them without paying, and they offered free self-service tea. It was more of a community centre than a bookstore. People would congregate there in the evening, and play games and sometimes sing and play musical instruments.

I managed to photograph the scene (though I won't post those photos here now). Needless to say, the main effect that had on the locals was just to increase their hatred of the government.

Anyway, I said above that the city wouldn't let me leave. I noticed while I was there that there were a lot of ghosts around. I was followed by ghosts on quite a number of occasions. At the time, I was struggling with my health, and one reason for going there was for a rest. On the day that I was supposed to leave, I dragged my suitcase in the early morning to get my taxi. It wasn't yet light. The place where I was staying couldn't easily be accessed by taxis, so I had to walk some way to find the taxi. To cut a long story short, I ended up falling 2 metres down into a gully, doing a somersault and landing on concrete. I almost broke my pelvis. It was very painful indeed, and I thought I was going to die in the gully. This was probably the most painful, unpleasant experience I've had this lifetime. I managed to contact my wife, who managed to find me and call an ambulance.

I wasn't in hospital for long - God knows how I managed to get sent home by the doctors after several hours, with a plastered leg and barely able to move around. I was pretty immobile once I got home. I managed to crawl upstairs to my bedroom, with my wife's help. But the weeks of immobility led to a Deep Vein Thrombosis in my leg, which in turn led to a pulmonary embolism. That was when I ended up in hospital for weeks. A god-awful experience. I ended up in intensive care, on a ventilator. What awful things those ventilators are. It would try to breathe for me, but its breathing rate was not the same as my own natural breathing rate, so my natural breathing would jar up against the machine's breathing after every breath. I had to beg them to take me off the ventilator, just so I could get a night's sleep. So they'd put me on a normal oxygen mask, and my blood oxygen level would slowly crash, and they'd put me back on the ventilator.

One day, I suddenly felt I was dying. Couldn't breathe properly. I felt so dreadful, that I was willing my body to die. But it wouldn't. I was stuck in this painful limbo between living and dead, in extreme pain. Awful. It turned out that my body was trying to puke. Presumably that was affecting my ability to breathe.

Since then, I've had Deep Vein Thrombosis several times, and I've ended up in hospital a few times (I've lost count of how many times), and it's led to pulmonary embolism a couple of times. One time I ended up with pneumonia, pleurisy, pulmonary embolism and DVT all at once. The funny thing is, at the time, it was in the cold of winter, and a friend of mine had ordered me a bunch of philosophy books. I was ill, but I dragged myself out in the dead of night to meet my friend, have a smoke and a coffee, and get my books from him. I collapsed in the middle of the street, and said to my friend, "Go and get my books. I'll wait here." Then I dragged my body home. As my wife was calling an ambulance, I was saying to her, "yeah, but I need to have a look at my books before the ambulance arrives, 'cos I won't be able to read them in intensive care." I didn't give a rat's arse about the fact I was probably dying - I just wanted to see my books, despite being in pain. Isn't that bizarre?

Anyway, I probably shouldn't have mixed this post up with the China stuff above, but I couldn't think of a natural way to separate the two. The strange thing is, recently, I have been in the best spiritual condition that I have ever been in during this whole lifetime, whilst being in the worst physical condition. The two are not causally related, I don't think. I used to assume that being in good spiritual condition would tend to put you into good physical condition too, but my recent experience has been that the two are only tenuously related.

Sorry if this post is mumbo-jumbo.

[onawah]

China’s Death Vans Just Got So Much Worse - Disturbing Footage & New Leaks
laowhy86
1.01M subscribers
Aug 19, 2025

"Just when I thought China's Death Vans couldn't get any worse."

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[onawah]

China’s MELTDOWN: MAJOR Bridge Collapse, Escalator Explosions & a Horrible Cover-Up - Episode #277
The China Show
363K subscribers
Scheduled for Aug 22, 2025 4pm CST

"Two bridges fall victim to China's quality issues. Shanghai metro emergency coverup. Escalators go haywire and eat people, and so much more. "

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[onawah]

Nobel Prize Economist Predicted China’s Collapse. Xi Proved Him Right
Ken Cao
20.6K subscribers
Aug 26, 2025

"China’s economy isn’t just slowing—it’s rotting from the top. In this deep-dive, I unpack Nobel Prize–winning economist Daron Acemoglu’s argument (“China’s economy is rotting from the head”) and show how it’s playing out today: property implosion, local-government debt, youth unemployment, collapsing confidence, and a system that rewards loyalty over innovation. I draw on the Why Nations Fail framework—inclusive vs. extractive institutions—to explain why short-term “miracles” built on centralized power eventually stall.
See: Daron Acemoglu, "China’s Economy Is Rotting from the Head",
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/xi-jinping-china-economy-rotting-from-the-head-by-daron-acemoglu-2022-10

We look at how extractive politics + extractive economics (one-man rule, no accountability, patronage markets) choke risk-taking, freeze entrepreneurship, and turn banks into lifelines for zombie firms. From zero-COVID whiplash to tech and tutoring crackdowns to “common prosperity” squeezes, Beijing has prioritized control over growth—and the bill is due. We also dig into demographics (aging population, falling births), capital flight, ghost cities, and why “concrete ≠ prosperity.”

This is not about lazy workers or weak founders—China’s talent is real. The problem is the operating system: innovation by permission slip, profits by proximity, and propaganda over feedback. I compare China’s path with South Korea/Taiwan’s transition toward inclusion and the Soviet Union’s double-extractive collapse to show the forks ahead: stagnation or crack-up.

If you care about geopolitics, markets, and the future of Asia, this episode connects the dots—why the rot starts at the top, how it drips through the economy, and what it means for Taiwan, supply chains, and global risk."

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[onawah]

What's Happening in China? "Death Hospitals", Infernos, & Madness Everywhere
Episode #278 The China Show
364K subscribers

"China is at wits end as the people rise up en masse and threaten the worst possible outcome, as many have not been paid in YEARS! Also, we take you into China's 'Death Hospitals' "

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How China Influences Elections in America’s Biggest City
The Chinese Consulate in Manhattan has mobilized community groups to defeat candidates who don’t fall in line with the authoritarian state.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/nyregion/china-consulate-new-york-elections.html
https://int.nyt.com/data/videotape/finished/2025/07/1752767030/ccp-entrance-1254w.mp4

[onawah]

Why Chinese Hackers Just Became More Dangerous Than Ever Before
Pierogi from Scammer Payback
Danny Jones Clips
556K subscribers
Aug 30, 2025

" Chinese hackers are more dangerous now than ever before. Cybersecurity expert Pierogi from Scammer Payback explains how state-backed hackers and organized cybercrime groups are evolving—targeting bank accounts, businesses, and even government infrastructure.

With billions at stake and new tactics that make scams harder to detect, this cyberwar isn’t just about stolen data—it’s about global power and control. Pierogi reveals what’s really happening behind the scenes and how you can protect yourself.

In this episode:

Why Chinese hackers are becoming more aggressive

How state-backed cybercrime works on a global scale

The link between financial scams, espionage, and surveillance

Pierogi’s expert advice for staying safe online

📢 Subscribe for more scam-busting investigations and cybersecurity insights with Scammer Payback."

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[onawah]

Three Gorges Dam Nightmare: Cracks Exposed, China on Edge
China Undercover
75.7K subscribers
Aug 27, 2025

(The "disaster clock" is speeding up...)

"In 2025, before China had even entered its official flood season in July, disaster was already sweeping across the nation. From the smoky industrial belts of the north to the farmlands of the south, unrelenting rains merged with swollen rivers, turning what should have been routine monsoon challenges into a nationwide nightmare. The waters didn’t burst in a single wave—they crept forward day after day, tightening their grip until whole provinces were drowning.
By July 4, Chinese officials admitted that 329 rivers had surged past the danger line. But behind this statistic lies a far darker truth: this crisis is not simply nature’s wrath—it’s the result of human arrogance. And at the very heart of it stands the most controversial symbol of modern China—the Three Gorges Dam.
Once glorified as the Communist Party’s ultimate triumph of engineering, the dam is now seen as its Achilles’ heel. When it was inaugurated in 2003, state media boasted that it could withstand a “once-in-a-thousand-year” flood. Later, that promise was quietly downgraded to “once in a century.” Now, as red alerts blare across central China, even that watered-down claim sounds like a cruel joke. The cracks in the illusion—both metaphorical and real—are widening. "

Significant comment, which explains a LOT:
@MichaelRobertson-i8f
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I retired from the LADWP in 2016 with the last 17 years spent in the Owen’s Valley as an Electric Station Operator. Back in those days I read an article about damming up the largest river in China, it displaced 150 million people from the areas that were going to be underwater. The One thing was that landfills included not only garbage but China didn’t separate Biological and Nuclear Waste in their landfills and putting them underwater would eventually cause both the nuclear and biological waste eventually contaminated the entire water supply, that’s why the concrete along with the generators themselves would eventually Fail, along with the water that floods after the dam failed you have to realize all of these waters are contaminated with nuclear and biological waste . Probably the single biggest toxic waste development in the History of the Human Race .

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[Jaak]

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At the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit in September 2025, Chinese President Xi Jinping proposed a new global governance system based on fairness, justice, and multilateralism, which he presented as an alternative to what Beijing describes as the "bullying practices" of the United States and its allies. While not directly naming the U.S., China frequently uses terms like "hegemonism" and "Cold War mentality" to criticize Washington's foreign policy.
Key principles of China's proposed global governance system include:
A "Community of Shared Human Destiny": China's vision promotes a world where nations work together for common goals through "extensive consultation, joint contribution, and shared benefits".
Sovereign equality: China argues that all nations, regardless of size or strength, should be equal participants in global governance. It promotes greater representation for developing countries in international decision-making.
True multilateralism: Instead of unilateralism or a "bloc-based confrontation," China advocates for multilateralism, emphasizing the central role of the United Nations.
Fairness and justice: Xi specifically called for a "more just and equitable global governance system," asserting that international law must be applied universally without double standards.
"Win-win" cooperation: A long-standing principle of Chinese foreign policy, this concept promotes mutually beneficial collaboration among countries, often cited in relation to initiatives like the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).
Instruments for building the new system
To construct this alternative order, China utilizes various platforms and initiatives:
Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO): At the September 2025 summit, Xi pledged $1.4 billion in loans to SCO members and sought to expand the organization's influence, positioning it as a counterweight to Western alliances.
BRI and Financial Institutions: The Belt and Road Initiative and institutions like the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) are key tools for extending China's geopolitical and economic influence, particularly across the Global South.
Global Initiatives: China has introduced its Global Development Initiative (GDI), Global Security Initiative (GSI), and Global Civilization Initiative (GCI) as frameworks for cooperation across various sectors.
Technology and AI Governance: China is also actively shaping norms in emerging areas like artificial intelligence, promoting a vision of "collective security over unilateral monopoly" in AI governance.
Context of the proposal
This proposal comes amidst complex global dynamics, including tensions with the U.S. and criticism of its "America First" policies. Analysts note that while China frames its vision as a fairer alternative, critics view it as an effort to establish a Sino-centric order that challenges existing Western-led norms and institutions.

[onawah]

How Secret Chinese Networks Move Billions Through US Banks
Emel Akan, senior White House correspondent, discussed how illicit profits from drug cartels move through the US financial system.
ByDon Ma
|9/1/2025
https://www.ntd.com/how-secret-chinese-networks-move-billions-through-us-banks_1088238.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-09-02&src_cmp=ntd-2025-09-02&utm_medium=email
(Video at the link)

"Many Americans know that fentanyl is smuggled into the country, but few may understand how the trade is financed or how illicit profits move through the U.S. financial system. NTD discussed this with Emel Akan, senior White House correspondent at The Epoch Times."

[onawah]

Ecuador Angered! China-built Massive Dam is Tofu-Dreg, Ecuador Demands $400 Million Compensation
China Observer
750K subscribers
Aug 26, 2025

"China's Belt and Road infrastructure projects have plunged some countries into deep debt, with many projects plagued by construction defects. Now, these affected nations have reached their breaking point.
Ecuador's massive hydropower plant, Coca Codo Sinclair, has become the center of a major structural defect scandal. The Chinese state-owned company behind the project will compensate the Ecuadorian government with 400 million US dollars for the damages caused by these defects.

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From $51 Billion to Nothing, Evergrande’s Delisting Hits China’s Economy, Banks Collapse One by One
China Observer
750K subscribers
Aug 30, 2025

"On August 25 at 9 a.m., China’s largest publicly listed property developer, Evergrande, was officially delisted after more than 18 months of suspension, ending its 16 years on the market. At its peak, Evergrande’s market value exceeded 50 billion US dollars, and founder Xu Jiayin topped Forbes’ Asia Rich List in 2017.
Evergrande’s growth was built on massive debt of around 330 billion US dollars, earning it the title of the world’s most indebted developer. It was once known as the “dividend king” of Hong Kong stocks. Between 2016 and 2020, the company paid out more than 70 billion Hong Kong dollars in dividends."

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China's Rotting Mansion Cities.
Places
241K subscribers
Jul 13, 2025

"China built enough homes to house Germany—yet millions remain homeless. From marble mansions to decaying ghost towns, this is the shocking story of China’s rotting megacities and broken promises."

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China’s Major Bridge Collapses Midnight, SHOCKING Response from the Developer
China Spotlight
16.5K subscribers
Aug 28, 2025

" A catastrophic China bridge collapse in Qinghai has left 12 dead, exposing another deadly tofu-dreg project from a state-owned giant. The Jianzha Yellow River Bridge, part of the Sichuan-Qinghai Railway, crumbled during construction on August 22, 2025.

This video investigates the tragedy and the developer's shockingly indifferent response, which stated the accident would "not have a significant impact" on their performance. We uncover the potential causes—from rushed political deadlines to systemic corruption and the harsh realities of construction on the Tibetan Plateau.

This isn't an isolated incident. We also expose the dark record of the developer, China Railway Group, linking this collapse to other deadly failures, including the Novi Sad station disaster in Serbia and the Bangkok tower collapse in Thailand, revealing a disturbing pattern of negligence in their Belt and Road Initiative projects. "

TIMESTAMP:
00:00 - Midnight Disaster: The Jianzha Yellow River Bridge Collapses
01:45 - The Human Cost: 12 Dead, Families in Grief
02:50 - The DEVELOPER'S SHOCKINGLY Cold Response
04:30 - What Went Wrong? Rushed Deadlines & Tofu-Dreg Engineering
06:15 - A History of Failure: China Railway Group's Dark Record
07:20 - Novi Sad, Serbia: The Deadly Station Collapse
08:45 - Bangkok, Thailand: The Skyscraper Collapse Scandal
10:10 - A System of Complicity: The Inevitable Tragedy

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[onawah]

China Hires Foreigners to Belittle Themselves. Most Ridiculous"White Monkey" Jobs. Paid by CCP.
Info Broker
10.5K subscribers
Oct 22, 2021

"White Monkey" is a term used by native Chinese in the Communist State to refer to paid actors and influencers who's job it is, is to enforce the Chinese nationalist ideals of superiority.

The term has become a general one and refers to any foreigner doing these types of jobs. "White Monkeys" do not have to work in China. Many are international actors and influencers, paid to influence public opinion positively in favor or Chinese political stances, particularly in policy that is frowned upon such as internment camps in Xingjian, settlements in Tibet, it's covert seizing of Hong Kong, dispute of Taiwan, or oppression of Religious Freedom of Christians, and other religious minorities."

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The China Shill Pensioner Who Went to China For Cheap Beer
FREE CHINA
78.4K subscribers
May 16, 2021

"The Canadian Who Loves China's Authoritarian Communist Party!
He threw his freedom away for some cheap beer!"

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YouTubers Paid To Spread Chinese Propaganda (Cyrus Janssen, Barrett, Jason Lightfoot)
G-man
2.25K subscribers
Jun 20, 2022

"The Chinese Communist Party is no stranger to propaganda, and these YouTubers (Cyrus Janssen, Barrett and Jason Lightfoot/Living in China) are just pawns in their game.

This video discusses the evidence tying Cyrus Janssen, Barrett, and Jason Lightfoot (Living in China) to the Chinese government, as well as the hypocrisy of some of their claims."

0:00 - Intro
4:18 - Cyrus Janssen
8:58 - Barrett
15:01 - Jason Lightfoot (Living in China)
18:22 - Outro

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My $10,000 White Monkey Job in Beijing, China
Eric G
31.8K subscribers
Jan 15, 2021

"White monkey jobs are a thing in Asia. This is the story of the time I was a white monkey."

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There are plenty of videos from various sources on youtube about White Monkeys.

[onawah]

All is not what it seems in China...

All is not what it seems in China...
China's Military Parade Becomes International Joke, Carriers, Jets, Rockets Are All Knockoffs
China Observer
750K subscribers
Aug 29, 2025

"In the days leading up to the grand military parade in Beijing, China’s state media has been filled with terms like "new strategic capabilities" and "system integration." When asked for details about the specifications of new equipment, the response has been a refusal to provide any information. As a result, while the government has remained silent, people on discussion platforms like Zhihu and WeChat, are sharing their interpretations of the People’s Liberation Army’s equipment using satellite images,
Today, we will set aside the official narrative and examine the circulating "leaked list" as it appears online. This list can be considered a reflection of the strategic priorities of the Chinese government. The logic behind modern governance suggests that the more a regime emphasizes a particular achievement, the more it may reflect concerns in that area. Why is there so much focus on the "carrier killer" missile? It suggests an emphasis on countering the U.S. Navy. Why the development of drones? It may indicate concerns about advanced aviation engines. Why the secrecy surrounding military equipment until the final moment? This might point to a lack of confidence in the stability of their own technology."

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China's military parade: Behind the curtain
CNBC Television
3.21M subscribers
Sep 2, 2025

"CNBC's Eunice Yoon takes a look at the setup for China's “Victory Day” parade Wednesday marking the end of World War II. President Xi Jinping has invited Russia’s Vladimir Putin and North Korea’s Kim Jong Un to attend the 80th anniversary event as part of Beijing’s messaging to the world that it is a global power. What’s blocked out of the Chinese celebration is the Chinese public."

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China Victory Parade 2025 | Full Coverage from Beijing | Sept. 2, 2025

Description:

President Xi Jinping welcomed Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, showcasing a powerful display of China’s growing military capabilities and reinforcing strategic alliances.t Xi Jinping will host his country's largest-ever military parade this week, as he seeks to recast Beijing as the custodian of a post-U.S. international order at a time of deep geopolitical uncertainty.

[onawah]

China’s Military Parade Was a Total Embarrassment — Hidden Details EXPOSED - Episode #279
The China Show
365K subscribers
9/5/25

"China's military parade scared the world - especially with the new Axis being formed between China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea. This is the moment where everything changed. However, it's not what it seems. China's military parade is being covered by media as a success, but there were SO Many things that people missed."

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[Johnnycomelately]

China’s Military Parade Was a Total Embarrassment — Hidden Details EXPOSED - Episode #279
The China Show
365K subscribers
9/5/25

"China's military parade scared the world - especially with the new Axis being formed between China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea. This is the moment where everything changed. However, it's not what it seems. China's military parade is being covered by media as a success, but there were SO Many things that people missed."

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The biggest news for me, from this episode, is not the headline. Rather, it is the recent report that the Feb 2025 copper mine tailings spill from a Chinese copper mine was 30 times worse/bigger than the mining company had claimed.

The report, from a company (Drizit Zambia Ltd.) hired by the mine, has been disputed by the mine company (Sino-Metals Leach Zambia Ltd.). SML terminated its contract with Drizit shortly before the report was due, apparently with the intention of keeping the report from being published.

Here is solid corroboration of Matt and Winston’s news, and it may have been their source, at least in part.

Zambia will be devastated, as half of the country relies on this river (Mwambashi River) for potable water and for agriculture.

https://www.mining.com/web/toxic-spill-at-china-owned-zambian-mine-30-times-worse-than-estimated/

[Thevortexpurple]

It is quite suspicious, actually: Of anything we hear about China, especially on the news: Not as in there is any positive view of them to be held. Rather: it is the case that: They have been, for far too long, covering up their internet users behind a wall. A large wall, that prevents their citizens from connecting with the rest of the world.
In fact: It could be even worse then what we are being told on the media. After all: I know that "they" want to maintain positive and friendly relations with China. This means: They wouldn't want to provide, well: "Too much" negative media coverage, of what's going on inside of the country.
Not to mention: Both the large population of the country, as well as: Their global reach!
I forgot what I was about to say here: However. I did not feel right when I heard about the way that they approach -Wait: I forgot what I originally had in mind here, although now: I brought in mind: Their obsessive focus on education, hyper-competiveness, as well as: An inability to be laid back in life. They are always so hyper-focused on the grinding lifestyle. And: I know something about the French: Believe me! They just don't have that kind of a style to them in the way that they -are more laid back in their approach.

[Thevortexpurple]

China’s Military Parade Was a Total Embarrassment — Hidden Details EXPOSED - Episode #279
The China Show
365K subscribers
9/5/25

"China's military parade scared the world - especially with the new Axis being formed between China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea. This is the moment where everything changed. However, it's not what it seems. China's military parade is being covered by media as a success, but there were SO Many things that people missed."

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I am not surprised if they really were fake, and that they, too: Turn out to be another Paper Tiger.

[onawah]

Brutal Mayhem in China as Dark Coverups are Exposed - #280
The China Show
368K subscribers
Scheduled for Sep 12, 2025 4PM CST

"Something is very wrong in China as multiple poisonings strike schools, the economy tanks, and sheer vehicular chaos takes over the streets. Also, so much more."

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(Starting at 1 hour 25 minutes into the video, Matt & Winston focus on CCP propaganda, why it's so dangerous, and wonder aloud as to why more people are not aware of what a threat the CCP has become, especially to the US. )

[Bill Ryan]

Copying this post by Helvetic on his thread. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=1685720&viewfull=1#post1685720) I listened to Pepe Escobar carefully, one of very the finest, most ethical and most experienced on-the-spot, feet-on-the-ground journalists in the world. It seems close to impossible to square Pepe's reports from China (there have been many others, as well), with those from some of the other China-critical YouTube channels.

In this short video, Pepe talks in some detail about the accelerating social and technological development that he sees all around him. It's not really a geopolitical report.

I've never been to China, but I do know someone here in Ecuador (a young man, a graduate student) who recently spent a whole year there working in the Chinese provinces. For whatever it may be worth, his personal testimony matches Pepe's very closely.

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Pepe Escobar | How Strong Is China? | Sept. 17, 2025

Source: Judge Napolitano youtube (https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom)

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[Johnnycomelately]

Copying this post by Helvetic on his thread. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=1685720&viewfull=1#post1685720) I listened to Pepe Escobar carefully, one of very the finest, most ethical and most experienced on-the-spot, feet-on-the-ground journalists in the world. It seems close to impossible to square Pepe's reports from China (there have been many others, as well), with those from some of the other China-critical YouTube channels.

In this short video, Pepe talks in some detail about the accelerating social and technological development that he sees all around him. It's not really a geopolitical report.

I've never been to China, but I do know someone here in Ecuador (a young man, a graduate student) who recently spent a whole year there working in the Chinese provinces. For whatever it may be worth, his personal testimony matches Pepe's very closely.

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Pepe Escobar | How Strong Is China? | Sept. 17, 2025

Source: Judge Napolitano youtube (https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom)

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Hi Bill. I am watching this vid (at 21:00/27:45 now), and I too feel feel a great disconnect between this talk and the China-critical talk of chans like The China Show.

Both Pepe and Judge seem bent on esteeming China over the west (only naming USA), in all the important metrics. Cultural stability and prosperity, geopolitical benignness, commercial relations with disadvantaged countries. Yet we know of big failures of China’s Belt and Road projects in various countries, the latest being the complete collapse of that hi rise Thai government office building (still under construction) due to a big quake in iirc Myanmar. A couple weeks ago we saw a PLAN warship collide with a Chinese Coast Guard ship while both were harassing a Philippine patrol ship. Pepe claims “out of poverty”, while not even addressing critics claims that “poverty level” has been arbitrarily defined for external appearances.

Pepe’s talk fits the mold of foreigner China-praise shown by the above mentioned critics Matt and Winston. He appears to be what they call a “Tankie”.

The YT comments are almost entirely enthusiastically supportive, which to me is a red flag. Here is one of the few outliers, which suggests that neither the host nor the guest knows China well:


@BobHaikou
14 hours ago
Judge, Pepe:

"Xi" in Xi Jinping is pronounced a lot like "she", like the female pronoun.


Not "zee" like zebra, not "gee" like genius, "jee" like je t'aime, not "see" like sea.

Time to get that right, especially for you, Pepe!!!!

[onawah]

China Is Unraveling: Society in Freefall as Mysterious Explosions Rock the Nation - #281
The China Show
368K subscribers
Scheduled for Sep 19, 2025 4PM CST

"We really want China to calm down, but there is so much unrest, we have to break it down for you. So many stories in this episode."
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[onawah]

There are huge disconnects in the news being reported about China, and it is advisable not to rely on any one source, but to do a lot of research if you are sincere about learning the truth.
The CCP is spending enormous amounts of money on propaganda and on their efforts to subvert and destroy anything that threatens their insane goals of world domination, which are extremely deadly, underhanded and difficult to detect, much less counteract.
There are going to be a lot of mea culpas, reciminations and early retirements once this becomes sufficiently clear.


Hi Bill. I am watching this vid (at 21:00/27:45 now), and I too feel feel a great disconnect between this talk and the China-critical talk of chans like The China Show.

Both Pepe and Judge seem bent on esteeming China over the west (only naming USA), in all the important metrics. Cultural stability and prosperity, geopolitical benignness, commercial relations with disadvantaged countries. Yet we know of big failures of China’s Belt and Road projects in various countries, the latest being the complete collapse of that hi rise Thai government office building (still under construction) due to a big quake in iirc Myanmar. A couple weeks ago we saw a PLAN warship collide with a Chinese Coast Guard ship while both were harassing a Philippine patrol ship. Pepe claims “out of poverty”, while not even addressing critics claims that “poverty level” has been arbitrarily defined for external appearances.

Pepe’s talk fits the mold of foreigner China-praise shown by the above mentioned critics Matt and Winston. He appears to be what they call a “Tankie”.

The YT comments are almost entirely enthusiastically supportive, which to me is a red flag. Here is one of the few outliers, which suggests that neither the host nor the guest knows China well

Tibetans feel stifled, asphyxiated by tide of Chinese propaganda memes
Report IANS
27 Aug 2025
https://www.thehansindia.com/news/in...report-1001034

"Lhasa, a holy pilgrimage city, was temporarily transformed to resemble Beijing, turning the Patola parade ground into a mini Tiananmen Square, where authorities observed and monitored every assembled citizen during the recent visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping to central Tibet, a report cited on Wednesday. It stated that the Chinese President, during the visit, highlighted China’s efforts to modernize Tibet with "Chinese characteristics".

According to a report published by Stockholm-based Institute for Security and Development Policy (ISDP), Beijing attempted to reassure itself that it is succeeding in winning the hearts and minds of the Tibetans by staging grand patriotic displays to convince top leaders of their success. However, it said, the efforts remain forced and misleading due to China's rigid governing style.

At Potala Palace in Tibet, while welcoming Xi Jinping, the military band played music and the Tibetans waved red flags and “khatag scarves". The flag was unfurled, the national anthem played, while the crowd sang with fast-moving shots capturing the scene in full display.

"These outbursts of spontaneous joy at seeing the Core Leader remind us that China sees Tibetans as backward, simple folk, who break into joyful dancing just like that. Nothing to do with choreography and repeated rehearsals. This spectacular enlisted 20,000 participants, trained to simulate spontaneity on cue. At no other time would the party-state allow 20,000 Tibetans to gather on the streets and square immediately below the Potala; any genuinely popular gathering would be swiftly declared a threat to national security,” wrote Gabriel Lafitte, who spent years living with Tibetans, in exile and in Tibet, wrote in ISDP.

The report stated that previously, in March 2025, new regulations came into effect across Lhasa and Tibet Autonomous Region prefectures, further restricting Tibetan culture and language. These regulations, issued at least once a year, dictate how Tibetans of central Tibet should behave, and with each set of rules, the punishments become increasingly detailed.

“Do Tibetans believe China is building in Tibet a united, prosperous, civilized, harmonious, and beautiful new socialist modernity? Does that fit their daily experience? This is popularly known as gaslighting, an unending campaign of controlling the minds and thoughts of others,” said the Australia-based writer.

"China’s reliance on top-level design to translate its frontier construction theory into a menu of actions has resulted in a dead end. Far from master planning Tibet’s transition into embracing a new identity, as loyal Chinese citizens, the counterproductive outcome of intensifying pressure is the deepening of Tibetan dismay at the relentless intrusion of China’s slogan jargon into every aspect of life. Tibetans feel stifled, asphyxiated, cancelled by the tide of propaganda memes they must memorize, repeat, and perform, whenever required," noted Lafitte who researches the impacts of Chinese policies on the Tibetan Plateau and regularly trains young Tibetan professional environmentalists and advocates. "

https://www.thehansindia.com/news/in...report-1001034

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Congressman says TikTok serves as Chinese ‘weapon’ sowing discord among young Americans
By Anthony Man
aman@sunsentinel.com | South Florida Sun Sentinel
September 16, 2025
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2025...ung-americans/

"TikTok is not the benign source of entertainment and information that its audience of young fans believe they’re getting, Congressman Jared Moskowitz warns. Rather, he warns, it is a dangerous propaganda weapon that China is using to manipulate public opinion and divide Americans.

The intention and impact are so great, Moskowitz said, that TikTok amounts to a large-scale psychological operations effort by China. “I want to be clear: I don’t want to ban TikTok. But you have to recognize it’s a psyops weapon.”

How the U.S. deals with it — changes could be announced imminently — is a “huge” part of “how we’re going to control how propaganda gets fed to the American people,” Moskowitz said.

The Broward-Palm Beach county Democrat discussed TikTok and other implications of social media on an episode of “The Chuck Toddcast” podcast that dropped earlier this month. His comments came before this week’s developments, with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant suggesting a TikTok deal is in the offing.

Deadlines for TikTok’s owner, ByteDance, to sell its U.S. operations have come and gone before, with President Donald Trump granting multiple postponements. Trump issued another extension on Tuesday.

Trump has gone from a fierce critic of TikTok — he tried to shut it down in his first term — to a champion of the popular service. Trump reversed his position during his 2024 campaign to return to the White House.

Moskowitz comes to his views about TikTok and other social media platforms as an admittedly prolific user of social media himself — and as a father of two elementary-aged children he wants to protect from detrimental effects of social media platforms.

The congressman said his views on TikTok are more than simply his opinion. “There’s a reason why I’m not allowed to have it on my official devices,” he said.

TikTok didn’t respond to questions about Moskowitz’s comments. On a “myths vs. facts” page on its website, TikTok said the assertion that it “manipulates content in a way that benefits the Chinese government or harms American interests” is a myth. It countered the content manipulation allegation with “Fact: TikTok is an entertainment app. The content on TikTok is generated by our community. TikTok does not permit any government to influence or change its recommendation model.”

NBC News reported that an analysis of ByteDance ownership structure “argues that the company is deeply entangled with some of China’s major government propaganda organs.” TikTok said its parent company was “founded by Chinese entrepreneurs,” but isn’t headquartered in China and that CEO and board members don’t live in mainland China. Some of the board members are American, it said.

Moskowitz said other countries recognize the dangers of TikTok, citing India’s banning of the app.

And China doesn’t expose its citizens to the version of the app deployed in the U.S., he said. ByteDance operates a different subsidiary, Douyin, with similar vertical short videos in China. “China’s TikTok is not our TikTok,” Moskowitz said. “Theirs is an educational program. So they’re making their kids smarter, they’re making our kids dumber. They’re feeding our kids false information.”

TikTok labeled it a “myth” that “Douyin offers educational content, limits screen time, and creates a positive experience for teens, while TikTok does not. Fact: Douyin and TikTok are separate apps that are run by separate teams and serve separate markets.”

The Pew Research Center reported in 2023 that 39% of adults under 30 said they regularly get their news from TikTok, compared to just 3% of those 65 and older. Among teens, 58% said they were daily users of TikTok.

“What they’re doing, because China thinks in (timeframes of) 100 years, 1,000 years. What they’re doing is getting us addicted, getting it attached, setting the seeds, getting it fully ingrained in society,” Moskowitz said.

He said TikTok users report they often “don’t check a second source” for information they see on the app. That allows China to use TikTok to shape young people’s opinions in “whatever direction” they want by promoting certain information and hiding other information.

For example, he said, TikTok amplifies videos about Israel’s conduct of the war in Gaza but suppresses videos about China’s oppression of the Uyghurs minority. “You ever hear about what the Chinese do to the Uyghurs on TikTok?” Moskowitz said. “Scrubbed from the platform, right? That’s how you do a psyops operation.”

Uyghurs in China are subject to atrocities, forced sterilization of young women, enforced separation of families, and detention of more than one million in detention and forced labor camps, according to the Institute for European, Russian and Eurasian Studies at The George Washington University and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Moskowitz isn’t alone on his views of TikTok. In 2024, U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Weston, described TikTok as “a horrific actor when it comes to the social media platforms.”

Congress, concerned that TikTok’s Chinese ownership makes it beholden to orders from that country’s government, voted overwhelmingly with bipartisan support in 2024 for a law that bans the app in the U.S. unless its parent sells TikTok to another company.

The contours of the latest possible deal haven’t yet been announced.

TikTok and some users sued to have the law overturned, arguing it was a violation of the First Amendment. A spokesperson said it amounted to “outright censorship of the American people.” But the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously upheld the law, concluding that “Congress has determined that divestiture is necessary to address its well-supported national security concerns regarding TikTok’s data collection practices and relationship with a foreign adversary.”

China’s position heretofore has been “interesting,” Moskowitz said. “They were like, ‘no, no, we’re not going to sell it and make billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars.’ They were like, ‘We’re going to close it. We’d rather shut it down.”

The reason is that the Chinese didn’t want to part with the app’s source code, Moskowitz said. “Because if we get the source code, we can see what they’ve been doing. That’s why,” the congressman said.

U.S. Rep. Jared Moskowitz, a Broward-Palm Beach County Democrat, at a House committee hearing on July 22, 2024. He is warning about threats to the U.S. from the TikTok app. (Rod Lamkey, Jr./Associated Press)

Moskowitz said his concerns aren’t confined to TikTok.

“Don’t get me wrong. Twitter or X is also a cesspool of hate and garbage,” he said. But that platform “at least” has the “community notes” feature, which TikTok doesn’t.

Community notes is a crowd-sourced program that allows users to add fact checks and other context to posts they find false or misleading.

Moskowitz said it’s hard for people to break the social media habit, himself included.

“It’s like trying to get a drug addict to stop taking drugs, right? We — we collectively, me included, so I’m not passing judgment on others — we are addicted to this,” he said, adding, “It’s tough to put the phone down. I deal with it all the time, trust me, I’m doom scrolling on Twitter too much.”

Still, he said, “trying to protect the kids” is essential.

“We all know what’s not good for 12-year-olds and 13-year-olds,” he said. He endorsed age-verification policies implemented by some states to control access to pornography. “Age verifications are great,” he said.

“We have to start trying to protect our kids right from being just totally sold everything as soon as they get onto the internet.”

Moskowitz said it’s being left to parents “to figure out how do we protect our kids until they’re adults? How do we protect our kids from being targets from companies or foreign governments who are very active on all of these platforms.”

A solution requires action from Washington, Moskowitz said. He also said reaching an agreement on appropriate regulation is exceedingly difficult. Tech firms are more powerful than the defense and health care industries, he said. “No question. They are 100% stronger.”

Moskowitz said his two young sons are “not on TikTok,” but are allowed on YouTube — with major parental oversight.

They can’t access the app in their bedrooms. “They’ve got to do it in the living room so I can at least hear some of the stuff.”

The boys are “getting pitched everything” when they’re on the app. At times he said he has had to “delete the app, try to reset the algorithms, try to clean it up.”

And, he said, his children are not allowed on during the week, just weekends. “That’s our rule in the house.”

But that doesn’t guarantee they’re not exposed to information parents don’t approve.

“Their friends are on it. I can’t keep them totally away from it. … They still learn stuff from other people, right? That’s stuff that’s not on their YouTube, but’s on their friends’ YouTube,” he said. “You can’t put your kids in a cocoon.” "

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China’s Propaganda: Ludicrous, Malicious, Extremely Effective
Hoover Institution
By: Gordon G. Chang
May 5, 2021
https://www.hoover.org/research/chin...mely-effective

"“So let me say here that, in front of the Chinese side, the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength,” said China’s top diplomat, Yang Jiechi, to Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, at the now-famous showdown in Anchorage in the middle of March.

Yang’s words, part of a long tirade, were immediately amplified by Chinese state and Communist Party media. His comment was carried for weeks, first by reporting and then by analyses. Foreign commentators picked up the storyline that the Americans in Alaska were taken by surprise, thereby giving credence to Beijing’s narrative of Chinese strength. It appears that Yang’s initial rant and its coverage were planned well in advance. Blinken and Sullivan, in short, were ambushed.

Is Chinese propaganda effective in enhancing Beijing’s strategic objectives? The answer, evident from this tactically brilliant and seamless operation, is “yes.”

“China controls the most expansive, heavily resourced, and sophisticated propaganda capabilities available to any regime in history,” Kerry Gershaneck, author of the recently released Political Warfare: Strategies for Combating China’s Plan to “Win Without Fighting,” told Strategika. “This massive propaganda juggernaut has reaped tremendous benefits for China’s Communist rulers in pursuit of their strategic objectives. Through its state-run propaganda organs, United Front organizations, and foreign enablers, Beijing has been able to effectively shape perceptions globally, if not perfectly at least well enough for its purposes.”

In this case, Yang’s assertive comment, flaunting China’s rise, served Beijing’s most important foreign policy objective: maintenance of Communist Party rule at home. The comment was relayed to the Chinese people, with especially inflammatory commentary. Fei-Ling Wang of Georgia Tech points out in comments to me that China’s huge and well-funded propaganda effort has worked well in promoting the Party’s leadership.

Yang’s comment also served to intimidate foreigners. As Cleo Paskal of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies said to this publication, “Berating the U.S. delegation in Alaska served the propaganda purpose of showing smaller countries ‘look at what we are willing to do to the U.S. so imagine what we will do to you.’ ” Paskal says Beijing has been “increasingly shifting to a ‘fear us’ message.”

That message is usually presented these days in a U.S.-is-in-irreversible-decline packaging, implying, without subtlety, that countries can no longer rely on Washington for help.

The messaging works not only because of repetition but also because it feeds into existing perceptions of China’s—and America’s—different trajectories.

Chinese propaganda, of course, does not work as well when it tries to establish a narrative that seems false, but the propaganda does what China’s regime needs it to do. Take the matter of the origin of COVID-19. Beijing has been suggested—maliciously, without factual foundation—that the disease originated in the U.S. Army’s Fort Detrick, in Frederick, Maryland.

On February 23 of last year, People’s Daily, the Communist Party’s self-described “mouthpiece” and therefore the most authoritative publication in China, suggested the U.S. military spread the disease to Wuhan. The Fort Detrick narrative appeared on WeChat, a popular Chinese social media platform, on March 9, and from there the story spread fast inside China.

“When did patient zero begin in the US?” asked Zhao Lijian, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman, in a now-infamous March 12 tweet. “It might be U.S. army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan.” That and his 10 other tweets on March 12 and 13 were cited 99,000 times in at least 54 languages in the following six weeks, according to an Atlantic Council-Associated Press investigation. Criticisms of Zhao’s messages further spread the theory. The wide dissemination of the narrative created what the New York Post correctly called a “self-feeding cycle.”

China since then has, through social media and other means, given new life to the Fort Detrick theory. For instance, on March 31 of this year, after the World Health Organization mission to Wuhan released its report on the origin of the disease, foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying again raised the Fort Detrick theory, something she also talked about previously this year. China’s propaganda line may be ludicrous, but Beijing through social media and other means knows how to keep a story going.

As they say, quantity has its own quality. Gershaneck, now at Taiwan’s National Chengchi University, refers to “the sheer mass of the daily bombardment of Communist Party messaging through Chinese state-owned and co-opted foreign media.”

“Upright Voice Needed Globally Against Western Public Opinion Hegemony,” a Global Times headline from this April tells us. There is, in fact, no longer any Western “hegemony” in public opinion, if there ever was.

China’s giant—and effective—propaganda effort has seen to that. As Gershanek points out, “The democracies have abdicated the Information Battlefield to China for roughly three decades and are only recently beginning to recognize the egregious price they are paying for this failure.” "

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China's Scams Targeting Americans in Every Zip Code Must Be Stopped
Sep 08, 2025
By Mike Kuiken & Randy Schriver
https://www.newsweek.com/chinas-scam...pinion-2125122

"The American people are under attack. The frontlines don't look like battlefields, but rather a computer screen, a phone call, or a social media message. The bipartisan U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission recently completed a report that details how massive scam centers across Southeast Asia—many operated by Chinese criminal networks—are systematically robbing Americans of billions of dollars a year.

These are not one-off criminal operations. They are industrial-scale fraud factories that have turned digital deception into one of the world's most lucrative criminal enterprises—rivaling, and in some estimates surpassing, the global drug trade. According to our recent Commission findings, Americans lost over $5 billion to scams tied to these networks in 2024 alone.

The victims aren't faceless statistics. One Oklahoma couple lost more than $5 million—depleting life savings meant for retirement—while in Maryland, a single victim was bilked of over $3 million in just a few months, shattered by "pig-butchering" schemes involving false romance and crypto investments.

But these scam centers are not just about theft. They represent something more troubling: criminal enterprises operating with what the Commission found to be "implicit backing from elements of the Chinese government." Beijing tolerates these operations when they target Americans but cracks down when they harm Chinese citizens. Even more disturbing, the Commission concluded that China is "exploiting the problem" of these scam compounds to advance its own interests.

This selective enforcement fits a larger pattern. These operations thrive not just because of local corruption and weak enforcement, but because Beijing deliberately chooses permissive environments—embedding its proxies in handpicked, loosely governed enclaves often tied to Belt and Road investments. Whether it's the flow of fentanyl precursors, cyber operations, or now these scam networks, China consistently exploits grey zones—where harm to Americans carries little risk, but harm to Chinese citizens brings swift reprisal.

Behind these scams, according to the Commission's findings, Chinese crime syndicates have aligned themselves with Beijing's geopolitical agenda. These groups promote pro-Beijing propaganda, support Belt and Road Initiative projects, and echo Chinese patriotic rhetoric. In return, they often operate with little interference and sometimes even strategic utility to the state. The Commission's analysis suggests this represents a form of indirect statecraft—one that helps China expand its influence, corrupt its neighbors, and undermine U.S. interests, all while denying responsibility.
The Commission's findings place these scam operations within a broader pattern of Chinese state behavior. This isn't about cataloging unrelated grievances—it's about recognizing a consistent strategy. Just as Beijing has tolerated the flow of fentanyl precursors that poison American communities while cracking down on domestic drug problems, it has allowed criminal networks to target American victims while protecting Chinese citizens. The pattern is consistent: activities that harm the United States operate with minimal interference, while those affecting China face swift action. Whether through cyber operations, intellectual property theft, or now these scam centers, China exploits grey zones that provide strategic advantage while maintaining deniability.

This isn't about politics—it's about national resilience. Americans deserve to know how foreign adversaries are targeting them, not just through traditional means, but through criminal networks and digital manipulation. Law enforcement, financial institutions, and the tech sector all have roles to play in tightening the screws on these scam centers, but we also need a clear-eyed understanding of the state-level strategy behind them.

At the same time, recent efforts by the Trump administration to streamline the State Department and USAID—including sharp staff cuts and program consolidations—raise important questions about institutional focus. These changes may be driven by efficiency, but they also risk sidelining long-term threats like this one. Protecting Americans from transnational cyber-enabled fraud should remain a diplomatic, development, and law enforcement priority—not a casualty of reorganization.

The Commission's report makes one thing clear: The United States is not just dealing with criminals. We are dealing with a system of exploitation that serves the interests of an authoritarian state that sees chaos abroad as leverage at home.

The American people are not passive victims. But we do need to wake up to the nature of the threat. Scam centers may look like low-level crime, but they are something far more serious: a quiet front in a much broader conflict.

We can't afford to navel-gaze while innocent Americans watch their retirement savings, college funds, and life savings hoovered up out of their bank accounts by criminal syndicates that the Commission's report documents as operating with geopolitical backing. As the Trump administration continues to negotiate trade deals and engage with China, shutting down these scam centers must be part of the conversation.

Mike Kuiken is a commissioner on the bipartisan U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission and a distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

Randy Schriver is the vice chair of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission and chief executive officer of the Institute for Indo-Pacific Security (IIPS). "

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Yet another angle/perspective on China. Jerm ( UK Column/Jerm Warfare) took a trip there to meet up with Carl Zha, at least for this Part 1, it looks like there is one more part to come, or more.


UKC,Jerm - Jerm Goes to China - Beyond the Propaganda (Part 1) (https://podbay.fm/p/uk-column-podcasts/e/1758308400?t=71)
1 hour 25 minutes - Sep 19, 2025


Show notes
China through Western eyes is one story. China on the ground is another. Jerm is here to uncover the difference.

Jerm is in China to see for himself what’s really happening on the ground. Western media coverage often paints a one-sided picture, but how much of it reflects reality? By travelling across the country, speaking to locals, and documenting the experience, Jerm is testing the propaganda against lived experience. Part 1 is in conversation with Carl Zha



This Odysee video version , for some strange reason, is not the full length of the audio version, it's a short section of them sitting in a fast food restaurant talking about the cyber world in China.

@ukcolumn:9/Jerm-Goes-to-China-Beyond-the-Propaganda-(Part-1):b

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Foreign tourists who go to China to sightsee these days are generally monitored and steered away from sights that the CCP doesn't want them to see.
Considering how much the Chinese people have been conditioned to hate foreigners, it's not really safe for foreigners there anymore, which is another reason they are not free to roam.
Very few are attempting to go there now, but there are huge numbers of Chinese trying to get out of the country permanently.

Watch starting at 59 minutes into the video posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11513-What-s-happening-in-China&p=1685918&viewfull=1#post1685918

(Considering how ill-behaved many Chinese tourists and expatriates are, they are wearing out their welcome in many countries.
Which certainly testifies to how rampant poor mental health has become among the Chinese people under the harsh, psychotic rule of the CCP.)


Yet another angle/perspective on China. Jerm ( UK Column/Jerm Warfare) took a trip there to meet up with Carl Zha, at least for this Part 1, it looks like there is one more part to come, or more.

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Chinese Citizens STRIKE BACK + China's Sick New Punishment Exposed - #282
The China Show
369K subscribers
9/26/25

"The unpaid workers are taking to their projects and getting revenge. China passes new law to create a new punishment and uses it on one of their most popular streamers. So much more!"

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For a much different picture of what is happening with the Uyghurs in China, watch starting at 1 hour 35 minutes into the video, continuing on until 1 hour 52 minutes.
Although of course, if it makes you happy to believe propaganda and the shills who are paid by the CCP to spread it, you are still free to do so.
Personally, I believe it's the truth that sets us free, though it may shatter our treasured, comfortable delusions.

Starting at 41 minutes, through until 1 hour 9 minutes, the long segment about "digital death" is very revealing about how hypervigilant the CCP is about anything posted online which they think could reflect at all negatively on the Party.

Chinese Citizens STRIKE BACK + China's Sick New Punishment Exposed - #282
The China Show
369K subscribers
9/26/25

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Copying this post by Helvetic on his thread. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=1685720&viewfull=1#post1685720) I listened to Pepe Escobar carefully, one of very the finest, most ethical and most experienced on-the-spot, feet-on-the-ground journalists in the world. It seems close to impossible to square Pepe's reports from China (there have been many others, as well), with those from some of the other China-critical YouTube channels.

In this short video, Pepe talks in some detail about the accelerating social and technological development that he sees all around him. It's not really a geopolitical report.

I've never been to China, but I do know someone here in Ecuador (a young man, a graduate student) who recently spent a whole year there working in the Chinese provinces. For whatever it may be worth, his personal testimony matches Pepe's very closely.

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Pepe Escobar | How Strong Is China? | Sept. 17, 2025

Source: Judge Napolitano youtube (https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom)

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Xi Losing Control? Rivals Secretly Reach Out to Trump via Premier Li Qiang

Xi Losing Control? Rivals Secretly Reach Out to Trump via Premier Li Qiang
Alexandra Bruce, Forbidden.News
Oct 02, 2025
https://substack.com/home/post/p-175088140

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" "DURING THE HU JINTAO ERA AND THE JIANG ZEMIN ERA, WE WERE SINCERE TO YOU. NEVER TRICKED YOU. NEVER PLAYED DIRTY WITH YOU. BUT XI AND WANG ARE RUTHLESS" - LUDE ON HU JINTAO FACTION
VIDEO: "Xi Losing Control? Rivals Secretly Reach Out to Trump via Premier Li Qiang"

Outside of a handful of Chinese Dissident- and anti-CCP YouTube accounts, the story about the ongoing power struggle within the Chinese Communist Party is being ignored by both the legacy media and the alternative media.

Last June, Lei’s Real Talk and other YouTube channels, like Behind the Great Firewall reported about an apparent purge of Xi Jinping loyalist generals, four of whom had “died suddenly”. In addition, key officials overseeing Hong Kong and Taiwan had been replaced.

Lei’s latest report claims that Xi Jinping has lost power and that the CCP elders, including Hu Jintao, Wen Jiabao, and General Zhang Youxia are now in control.

She says that during the recent UN Assembly, Chinese Premier Li Qiang vanished for five hours and secretly flew to Washington to meet with Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, carrying a message from these CCP elders for Donald Trump, the gist of which was:

1) Xi Jinping has lost power. The Party elders are the ones truly in control.

2) They want to return China to the reform and opening-up era, and they see good relations with the US as the top priority.

3) They sincerely want to welcome President Trump to visit China.

Lei says that this is the opposite of Xi Jinping’s current doctrine, according to his own recent speeches and according to former Inner Mongolia senior official, Du Wen, who fled China for Belgium in October 2023, after enduring lawfare that he claimed was actually targeting his former boss, Hu Chunhua, the man chosen to succeed Xi Jinping by the above CCP elders.

Du Wen claims to have obtained top-secret CCP documents that outline Xi Jinping’s doctrine, which is to unite with Russia and North Korea against the United States and the democratic world. After meeting with five Biden administration officials and US scholars in 2024, Du was surprised that they didn’t know this. I’m guessing he didn’t know that the Biden administration was the Xi Jinping adminstration.

Lei quotes Du as saying, “They still see China through an old Cold War lens, as just another revisionist power. They haven’t grasped Xi Jinping’s full strategic shift to create this anti-West alliance to take down the United States.” And that blind spot, Mr Du warns, “Distorts American policy and ripples out to Europe and the rest of the world.”

Lei claims that according to Xi Jinping’s own speeches, the world is now split. On one side, the US and the democracies. On the other, what Xi calls the “Anti-Western United Front”, led by himself, Putin, and Kim Jong-un and that in a speech to the Central Military Commission, he called it a “Life-and-death struggle”.

The three were photographed extensively during Beijing’s September 3rd military parade, where Xi Jinping appeared shoulder to shoulder with Russia’s Putin and North Korea’s Kim Jong-un.

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Two days later, on September 5th, Trump announced that his Department of Defense would be renamed the Department of War and since then, Trump also made an unexpected 180-degree shift on the Russia-Ukraine war. This was promptly followed by many Russian drone incursions into Estonian, Polish and Danish airspace.

What Lei reports about Du Wen reminds me of the September 2020 reports from Miles Guo associate and fellow Chinese dissident, Lude, who announced that the three Hunter Biden hard drives had been physically delivered to the US Department of Justice in 2019 by Bo Tiantian on behalf of three very high-level retired CCP officials, Jiang Zemin, Zeng Qinhong, Meng Jianzhu.

Besides the horrible videos of Hunter abusing 10-year-old girls and records of his corrupt financial deals with CCP officials, Lude said the drives contained data from the offshore bank accounts of Xi Jinping and Chinese Vice President Wang Qishan, They also contained information about Xi and Wang’s so-called ‘Architectural Art Project’, which he said is a wide-ranging plan to control not only 1.4 billion Chinese people but also the United Nations, the US President and all future US Presidents. One drive contained information about a virus and bio-weapons.

Lude explained thre reason why Zemin, Zeng and Meng had gave these hard drives to US officials was:

“In short, to protect themselves. To tell all of the Americans who have been collaborating with the CCP, ‘Look at Xi and Wang. We know all of your dirty secrets. Which means you should blame Xi and Wang. During the Hu Jintao era, and the Jiang Zemin era, we were sincere to you. Never tricked you. Never played dirty with you. But Xi and Wang are ruthless.'”

Bo Tiantian, aka Bao Jiaqi aka Hunter Biden’s “flirty secretary” who delivered the hard drives is the illegitimate daughter of disgraced CCP luminary, Bo Xilai, who had competed with Xi Jinping for the leadership of Communist China but was defeated.

Lude said Corrupt pro-Biden DOJ officials kept the Hunter Biden hard drives under wraps but others were eventually able to deliver these to Donald Trump sometime in 2020.

In short, the the CCP is not a monolith. Several high-level CCP members have defected in recent years and its possibly that its factions are warring each other within the US Government.

TRANSCRIPT

Lei: The UN has been all over the news lately. Alongside Trump, China’s Premier Li Qiang also flew into New York for the assembly. And just before the session where President Trump was set to speak, US Secret Service busted a dangerous network.

300 co-located SIM servers and 100,000 SIM cards [an additional 200,000 have since been discovered] spread across five sites in New York. That system could have crippled the city’s cell phone communications. So far, no group has been officially named.

But let’s be honest, who else has the technology, the money, the manpower, and the motive? My bet, the CCP.

Li Qiang was in the US for the UN assembly. It’s his first trip to the US as the Premier.

But here’s the strange part: While in New York, he mysteriously disappeared from the public. Now, you have to understand, when it comes to a Chinese Premier abroad, his schedule is mapped-out to the minute by the Foreign Ministry and the Chinese Embassy. Even the US Secret Service has to know his whereabouts for his security.

His disappearance was said to have surprised people. So where did he go? What happened in those missing hours? Leaks suggest that the Premier wasn’t just sightseeing. He was secretly reaching out to officials from the Trump administration, carrying a message from the CCP’s party elders. He was hoping to see people close to Trump, but it said that they were unavailable, due to the last-minute nature of this request.

It said that he met the Commerce Secretary in the end. Well, that’s Howard Lutnick. And the message he delivered? Actually, there are not just one message, but three. So here are the three messages that he supposedly delivered:

First: Xi Jinping has lost power, the party elders are the ones truly in control. Message number two: they want to return China to the reform and opening up era and they see good relations with the US as the top priority. And message number three: is that they sincerely want to welcome President Trump to visit China.

Now, this message certainly didn’t come from Xi Jinping. They came from the elders, including Hu Jintao, Wen Jiabao, and General Zhang Youxia.

They’re said to have personally tasked Li Qiang with this mission. In fact, this was the real purpose of his trip. So originally, Xi Jinping didn’t even want Li Qiang to come.

He wanted to send Vice Premier He Lifeng instead, because Vice Premier He has been talking with the Americans in the trade talks, so it will be a good fit. But the elders insisted that only Li Qiang had the standing to deliver this message, so that’s why he came.

Here’s where the trail gets interesting: The meeting most likely took place in Washington, DC Flight records, or the system that tracks flights, that platform backed up this claim, that the meeting actually took place in Washington, DC.

His plane, which was a chartered plane, touched down in New York on September 22nd at 4:28PM, but two hours later, at 6:32PM, it took off again. By 7:16PM, it was on the ground in DC. Yet according to Li’s official itinerary, he had no events scheduled in DC. So the missing five-hour window, it may have been spent carrying out the most important and the most secret mission of his US trip.

So, I cannot verify this, but do I believe it? I should tell you that I cannot dismiss.

In the past two weeks, the world has grown increasingly dangerous. Russia suddenly launched drone incursions into Poland. Three Russian fighter jets entered Estonian airspace before being intercepted by NATO and just yesterday, four Russian aircraft approached Alaska’s air defense identification zone, forcing the US. and Canada to scramble multiple fighter jets to intercept them.

Denmark, meanwhile, was hit with drone incursions twice in just one week. First, Copenhagen’s main airport was forced to shut down, then on the night of the 24th, at least four other airports in both northern and southern Denmark, along with a key airbase, were simultaneously swarmed with unidentified drones, knocking parts of the country’s aviation network offline. The Danish government called it “A carefully planned hybrid attack.”

At the same time, Chinese Coast Guard vessels made incursions near Japanese waters.

Now back in Pyongyang, on September 14, North Korea’s diplomatic mission to the UN declared that its “Status as a nuclear-armed state” is irreversible. Kim’s sister, the formidable Kim Yo-jong, also issued strong warnings against the US, South Korea, Japan, Freedom Edge joint drills, threatening “negative consequences”.

So, do you notice a pattern here? All of these developments came after Beijing’s September 3rd military parade, where Xi Jinping appeared shoulder to shoulder with Russia’s Putin and North Korea’s Kim Jong-un.

The sight of these three dictators in the same frame crystallized what Xi called the “Two Camps”. In the past, US rivalry with China was mostly economic or technological, but today, it has solidified into a full-scale geopolitical confrontation.

And this camp, the one that you see on the screen, did not exist in Trump’s first term. Now, it’s real. And of the three, Russia, China, and North Korea, it’s China that leads. It’s very clear. Xi Jinping is the one directly confronting the United States and the democratic world.

On September 5th, just two days after the parade, Trump announced that his Department of Defense would be renamed the Department of War. Since then, we’ve seen unprecedented developments, including Trump’s 180-degree shift on the Russia-Ukraine war.

In fact, uniting with Russia and North Korea to struggle against the United States and the democratic world is exactly the CCP’s strategy. Mr Du Wen, the former official in Mongolia working for Hu Chunhua, who now lives in exile in Europe, he claims to have obtained top-secret CCP documents that outline Xi Jinping’s doctrine, what he calls “Two Camps, One Struggle”. He made the revelation, I think, two days ago, but I’m not sure the date of such document.

According to Xi Jinping’s own speeches, the world is now split. On one side, the US and the democracies. On the other, what Xi calls the “Anti-Western United Front”, led by himself, Putin, and Kim Jong-un.

And Xi Jinping doesn’t even hide it. In a speech to the Central Military Commission, he called it a “Life-and-death struggle”. Those were his exact words.

Now, the timing of the speech is unknown. I do not think it’s recent. I think this speech and this strategy was drafted before his sudden illness at the Third Party Plenum.

So, Mr Du Wen said that the US still misreads China. In 2024, he met with five Biden administration officials and several US scholars. What he found was striking, he said, “They still see China through an old Cold War lens, as just another revisionist power. They haven’t grasped Xi Jinping’s full strategic shift to create this anti-West alliance to take down the United States. And that blind spot, Mr Du warns, distorts American policy and ripples out to Europe and the rest of the world.”

Alright, so let’s get back to the message that Premier Li Qian delivered. Is it believable? I think it is, because the party elders desperately need to get in touch with the Trump administration about the next step, because they could feel the sinking ship. "

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INSANE! China Attacked Their Own People with Drones - Episode #283
The China Show
370K subscribers
Live 10/3/25 starting at 4PM CST

(There is a long segment from 1 hour 16 minutes to 1 hour 46 minutes into the video during which Winston displays the long conversation he had with Grok about what is demonstrably AI generated content being presented as real on Grok, and what is clearly CCP propaganda showing up on Grok constantly and being presented as fact. It took a long, detailed debate before Grok finally admitted that Winston was correct. )

"China's national day celebration turned into punishment as fire rained down on citizens. New explosions rock the country, and society is coming to terms with the fact that things are not getting better."

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China Protests Flare Up Ahead of Regime Anniversary; China's Economy Staggering: Expert
China in Focus - NTD
784K subscribers
Premiered Oct 1, 2025

"Throwing pots at police and blocking highways—protests are spreading across China as dissent boils under Beijing's iron grip. We zoom in on the growing unrest.

This Oct. 1 marks 76 years of the Chinese Communist Party’s rule in China. People around the globe are calling for an end to the regime.

What’s China’s National Day holiday like this year? Where does China’s economy stand overall? An expert weighs in.

The empty seat left by a disappeared Chinese diplomat has now been filled. We take a closer look at a possible shift in Beijing's diplomatic approach.

A new Chinese coffeehouse in Manhattan is fueling protests over U.S. national security concerns. An NTD reporter spoke with demonstrators outside the Luckin Coffee shop."

00:00 Intro
01:12 Protests Flare Across China Before CCP National Day
03:49 Protesters Worldwide Rally Against CCP's 76-Year Rule
06:03 China's Macro Economy Is Staggering: Balding
12:17 Beijing Replaces Missing Envoy With Spy Agent
13:08 Protesters Call Out Luckin Coffee as CCP Data Risk
17:21 U.S. Investing $625M to Keep Coal Plants Open, Countering China's AI
19:31 Taiwan: China Trying to Create Legal Basis for Attack
20:34 U.S. Agrees to Let S. Koreans Work on Short-Term Visas
21:26 China Caps Bankers' Overseas Travel at Once a Year

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CCP's Global Dreams Crumble: Anti-China Protests Ignite from Seoul to Africa!Decoding China
93.7K subscribers
Oct 3, 2025
The main content of the program:
0:00 Intro
01:00 China's Global Ambitions Stumble: Looting, Violence, and Hostility in Africa Crush the CCP’s Dream of Dominance, Chinese Citizens Pay the Bloody Price.

6:21 “Anti-China Protests Erupt in Seoul: South Koreans Chant ‘Heaven Will Destroy the CCP,’ Chinese Embassy Warns Citizens: ‘Don’t Provoke Koreans!’”

12:14 Chinese Women Forced into “Harsh Labor”: From Mothers and Students to Pregnant Women, All Becoming Couriers to Survive.

17:26 “Political Thunder Before the 4th Plenum! Chen Jining Exposed for Secretly Aligning with Zhang Youxia – Military Convoys Enter Beijing, Is Something About to Happen?”

22:02 China’s K Visa Program Targets Global Tech Talent Amid U.S. Restrictions, but Experts Predict Failure.

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Freedom Beats Tyranny: Nepal’s Uprising Sparks Anti-CCP Slogans Across China
China Today
Sep 13, 2025

🌏 Main Coverage:
0:00 intro

0:46 The Collapse of Illusions: Xi Jinping’s Supporters Now Face Ruin Alongside Him.

5:16 The CCP Exports Not Prosperity but Crisis and Turmoil: Pro-China Regimes Collapse One After Another.

10:07 From Zambia’s Toxic River to Serbia’s Deadly Station Collapse: CCP’s Belt and Road Faces Global Backlash, Triggering a Wave of Protests Worldwide.

14:48 Heaven Will Destroy the CCP: From Seoul’s Streets to a Global Awakening, Resistance Against Beijing Surges Worldwide.

19:03 Freedom Will Ultimately Triumph Over Tyranny: Nepal’s Upheaval Ignites Anti-CCP Slogans Across Beijing as Chinese Citizens Begin to Awaken.

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Mass Anti-China Protests Erupt in Korea Again, Chinese Embassy Warns Locals: 'Don’t Anger Koreans!'
China Observer
762K subscribers
Oct 1, 2025

"The Chinese Embassy abroad is known for being tough and domineering, but recently, it's been unusually cautious in South Korea.
On the afternoon of September 28, a large-scale protest erupted in Seoul, where several conservative groups gathered in front of Seoul Station, marching towards Namdaemun. Among the banners, shocking slogans like “Heaven will destroy the CCP” appeared. In response, the Chinese Embassy issued a rare warning to Chinese nationals in the area, advising them not to provoke the South Koreans."

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Xi Jinping Hospitalized After Stroke — 11 Days Before the 4th Plenum

Breaking: Xi Jinping Hospitalized After Stroke — 11 Days Before the 4th Plenum
Lei's Real Talk
364K subscribers
Streamed live 10/9/25

"Reports are emerging from Beijing claiming that Xi Jinping may have suffered a sudden stroke earlier today. The alleged incident has triggered emergency medical activity in the capital, with sources describing Xi’s condition as serious. Meanwhile, Premier Li Qiang has reportedly been ordered to cut short his visit to North Korea—a move widely seen as a key indicator of how grave the situation might be.

The report comes from three separate sources, including former CCP insider Du Wen, one of whom alleged that a formal transition of power has already begun. At the same time, South Korea confirmed today that Trump is unlikely to attend the APEC Summit, reinforcing earlier claims that the long-anticipated Xi–Trump meeting in South Korea will not take place. "

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China’s New VIRAL Mega Bridge is Embarrassing - HUGE Scandal Exposed - Episode #284
The China Show
370K subscribers
Scheduled for Oct 10, 2025 4pm CST

(Nearly an hour long segment starting at 33 minutes into the video about the bridge and what it's really all about {propaganda}, plus lots of examples of bridges the CCP built recently which have fallen apart, with many lives lost. {Not to mention the countless CCP-built highways, dams, buildings etc. that suffer the same fate, both in China and in countries where the CCP has put Belt & Road Initiative projects.}
No doubt the newest glamour project will follow suit, but if the 3 Gorges Dam fails (which is estimated by experts to be just a matter of time), it will all seem somewhat inconsequential by comparison.)

"We uncovered the sinister truth behind China's mega bridge."

Some Sources -
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/09/te...

Salary data in Anlong https://tjgb.hongheiku.com/xjtjgb/xj2...

Salary data in Fenggang
https://www.gzfenggang.gov.cn/zwgk/zf...

https://www.researchgate.net/publicat...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s4358...

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/...

BRIDGE SOURCES -
1981 Liziyida Bridge (Chengdu–Kunming Railway), Sichuan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Ch...
1999 Qijiang “Rainbow” Pedestrian Bridge, Chongqing
https://www.engineeringcivil.com/civi...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qijiang...
2007 Jiujiang Bridge, Foshan (Guangdong)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaps...
2007 Fenghuang (Tuojiang) Bridge, Hunan (under construction)
https://www.scmp.com/article/606792/d...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Fe...
2009 Hongqi Road Viaduct, Zhuzhou (Hunan)
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...
2010 Tangying Bridge, Luanchuan (Henan)
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/55...
https://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=...
2010 Nanjing Overpass (under construction), Jiangsu
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...
2011 Gongguan Bridge, Wuyishan (Fujian)
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...
2012 Hangzhou Viaduct dismantling accident, Zhejiang
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/20120...
2012 East Guangchang River Bridge, Jiangxi
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/20120...
2012 Yangmingtan Bridge (ramp), Harbin (Heilongjiang)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangmin...
2013 Lianhuo Expressway Bridge (Mianchi, Henan)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ch...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-c...
2014 Gaozhou stone-arch bridge, Guangdong
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...
2014 Jinshan Bridge, Enshi (Hubei) (under construction)
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3417/10/6/2112
2016 Ganjiang Bridge (dismantling), Taihe (Jiangxi)
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/20160...
2019 Wuxi S342 Overpass, Jiangsu
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ch...
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How Xi’s collapse triggered Trump’s 100% tariff blitz and trade war
Lei's Real Talk
371K subscribers
10/11/25

"Just days after rumors that Xi Jinping suffered a stroke, Beijing shocked the world with sudden trade-war moves against the United States. China announced new rare-earth export bans, launched a probe into Qualcomm, and hit U.S. ships with new port fees. President Trump fired back, promising 100% tariffs and tough new controls. What really caused this sudden U.S.–China clash? Was it Xi’s health, a power struggle before the Fourth Plenum, or something deeper inside the CCP? This video breaks down what’s happening behind the scenes in Beijing and why it matters to the world."

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Did Xi Just Have a Stroke? (Again?)

Did Xi Just Have a Stroke? (Again?)
LEI: HOW XI'S COLLAPSE TRIGGERED TRUMP'S 100% TARIFF BLITZ TRADE WAR
Forbidden.News
Oct 13, 2025
https://substack.com/home/post/p-176006517

(VIDEO: "How Xi’s Collapse Triggered Trump’s 100% Tariff Blitz and Trade War" Pub. Oct 11, 2025 by Lei's Real Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHfdl3aP9lw )

"Out of the blue last Thursday, China's commerce ministry announced that starting on December 1st, a license will be required for foreign companies to export products with more than 0.1% of rare earths from China or that are made with Chinese production technology.

As Dean Ball, a former White House Science and Technology Policy advisor wrote, China's policy "Gives it the power to forbid any country on Earth from participating in the modern economy." He says this imbalance has created an opportunity for "Every country on Earth that wants to control its destiny [to] build a new supply chain designed to withstand unilateral weaponization by a single country."

On Friday, President Trump responded that he would impose an additional 100% on top of the current 30% tariff on China and limit US exports of software.

This caused China to vow to retaliate against the US' retaliation, accusing the US of "acting unilaterally" – after China had acted unilaterally.

This is an abrupt break from the rather stable relations between China and the US over the past 6 months. As Lei's Real Talk points out, China has lately been sending amicable and conciliatory signals, with the TikTok deal and with Premier Li Qian recently announcing at the UN that China would give up its 'Developing Country' status at the WTO and with him in a private meeting with US business leaders and think tank figures reviving Wang Yang's old analogy about the US-China 'marriage', suggesting that the two countries should coexist and complement each other like a couple, rather than compete.

But out of nowhere, Beijing flipped. Lei likens the rare earths announcement to a "surprise Pearl Harbor-style economic strike" and after weighing all of the possibilities, she assesses that this directive is actually a cover-up for what may be Xi's severe health crisis.

Since July 2024, Chinese dissidents have spread unsubstantiated rumors that Xi Jinping suffered a stroke during the Third Plenary Session of the Chinese Communist Party.

Last Friday, Lei reported on rumors that Xi had suffered another more serious stroke last Thursday, just 11 days before the upcoming Fourth Plenary Session.

For months, Lei's Real Talk has reported that China's political and military establishment has become divided into a pro-Xi hardliner faction that insists on fighting the US and the more US-friendly anti-Xi faction headed by retired CCP elders, including Hu Jintao, Wen Jiabao and the active duty General Zhang Youxia, that wants to ease tensions and to restore good relations.

It's Good Cop, Bad Cop and Lei explores opinions about how either faction could be playing both roles. However, in her opinion, the surprise rare earths directives are coming from the pro-Xi faction, likely because he is gravely ill.

"It is Xi Jinping’s camp making this 180-degree turn on the surface, against the will of the party elders who have been trying to mend relations with Washington in the past couple of months.

"But why? Well, the key lies in the timing. Think about it: It's just 10 days before the CCP's Fourth Plenum. It's in the middle of damaging rumors that Xi could step down at the plenum. It's while China's Premier Li Qiang is away in North Korea and right when speculation about Xi health is getting feverish.

"And remember, on the very day the rare earth restrictions were announced, which was Thursday, the rumor that Xi had suffered a stroke was all over social media outside China. It's very likely that this is a desperate move by Xi's team to conceal his health crisis.

"To prove Xi Jinping is still actively in charge, they had to roll out policies that bear his personal signature: Heavy-handed, hardline measures that scream 'Xi Jinping!' all over. And these actions may look irrational, but that's because the motive behind them is desperation...

"If you want to understand what's really happening in Beijing, in Zhongnanhai, then the next five minutes or maybe seven minutes is crucial…

"Even though Xi Jinping has lost the core of his power, he's still the leader. His loyalists have been purged from the military and key posts but many technocrats in those ministries still follow his orders, because by training, that's what they do. So as long as Xi Jinping remains in his position – even in name only – his command chain isn't completely paralyzed.

"One analyst estimates that Xi Jinping still controls about 10% of the military, 20% of personnel decisions, 50% of economic policy, 80% of foreign affairs, and nearly all propaganda. So on average, he still has 50% of the power left. So the CCP machine continues to operate as if Xi were fully in charge...

"And to cover up his health crisis, his team likely instructed those bureaucrats in the foreign ministry, in the commerce ministry and in the transport ministry to carry out the new directives. None of them would dare challenge their superiors in the CCP's system. And remember, Premier Li Qiang, who oversees these ministries, is currently out of country in North Korea to attend Kim Jong-un's military parade. So that helps, too.

"Xi Jinping must be in such a bad shape that his people resorted to such drastic moves. And the goal is to buy time by creating chaos, chaos that the anti-Xi camp will have to clean up."

Interestingly, Trump's post over the weekend kind of seemed to reflect an understanding of this:

NY Post: "Trump says ‘don’t worry about China’ after Beijing responds to 100% tariff threat" - Pub. Oct 12, 2025
Regardless of whether Xi is ill, Lei believes the hardline rare earths directives can serve as a way to get the bureaucracy to consolidate around him.

Something Lei never talks about and doesn't seem to be aware of is the role of the CCP in stealing the elections of 72 countries, including those of the US over the past two decades.

President Trump has never discussed this publicly. He's said the 2020 election was stolen but he's never gotten into exactly who did it. This is because the answer is very complex and the subject of an active investigation by the Department of Justice.

Gary Bertsen and Ralph Pezzullo book, 'Stolen Elections' summarizes the global election theft operation as being run out of Belgrade, Serbia, using giant Chinese Huawei servers, running Venezuelan software operated by hundreds of engineers from Venezuela, Cuba, China, Iran and Serbia. They also say that members of the FBI, CIA and DHS were recruited into this operation and that the media has been completely bought off to lie about this by the Venezuelan Cártel de los Soles.

But the election theft operation is not really a Venezuelan or a Chinese operation. It's a Globalist operation, as with COVID, the mail-in ballot hoax and with the nanotech bioweapon.

In this October 6th podcast with Michael Jaco, Juan O Savin began to speak about who's really behind all of this and who "They" are, at around 43 minute mark:

"What is, at first look, China; to understand that there is a royalist component; these people seeking their empire and to continue with their empire, their imperialist ideals out into the next centuries, they want to destroy humanity as we now know it. They believe that they can own the future by killing the rest of the planet off; starving us to death, choking us to death, through war and seeing us destroyed.

"And so, we will see the American component of that; where they have infiltrated, become part of our government, been supported, funded to bring America back under the heel of these royals and the organizations that they operate and fund, in plain sight that seem so 'benign' or 'American'.

"It's not just one, it's multiple organizations that seem disconnected at one level, but at another level are totally connected. It's not 33 degrees, it's 360 degrees of various, groups and people working together – most of the time, even those individuals not understanding how completely interconnected their actions are at the highest, highest levels…

"What I'm going to put a lot of my energy into [is] helping to connect all of those dots, so that people see that even these minions who seemed so powerful, here in America at various times and got their way, there's other chessboards that are out-of-sight, where these manipulators are moving and working from, to try to control the course of the world for their advantage – and to destroy the world with their wars and famines and stuff like that, for their desired outcome, which is a depopulated planet where only their Chosen Ones get to be part of the future.

"And I want people to understand that, think about it. We'll try to, to pull the pieces together as much as possible to make it clearer and clearer. And I think as these prosecutions go through, that's what I hope, within this audience and other similar that begins to gel and make sense, so we see beyond the visible people, just like you would see beyond Soros, himself and understand he's just a figurehead for something much larger, a conflict that's much greater.

"And then understanding that, you know, we're only at some level, at a midpoint, as we begin to go and pluck up some of these useful idiots that are even in powerful positions, who, themselves are just pawns in a much larger game to own and control the world." "

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I have never been to China. Only know China thru Vietnam long history of struggle with its giant neighbor to the North. China always has her eyes on her neighboring lands and Vietnam has always been the stop gate to the southeast and beyond for millenniums. When China is strong, she is all over Vietnam. Lately, the Chinese friendly faction in Vietnam is being purged left and right. China did not come to the rescue when Cambodia clashed with Thailand. As a matter of fact, Hun Sen who was set up by the Vietnamese, ditched Vietnam for China but lately has come back to his former backer. China only lets go her grip on Viet land when she has internal struggles which usually ends up with the fall of the dynasty/regime.

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Hu Jintao’s secret plan to take down Xi — without blood or guns
Lei's Real Talk
373K subscribers
Oct 13, 2025

"Hu Jintao’s revenge has begun — and the stage is the Fourth Plenum. After a year of mysterious purges and power reshuffles, leaked reports reveal a secret plan by Party elders to remove Xi Jinping legally — without blood or a coup. At the center stands General Zhang Youxia, torn between loyalty and survival. From Li Keqiang’s suspicious death to Hu Chunhua’s coming motion of dismissal, every move points to one outcome: Xi’s time may be running out. This episode exposes the hidden plot, Zhang Youxia’s predicament, and the moment Beijing’s balance of power could shift forever."

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From stroke rumors to rare earth blitz: The fall of Xi’s illusion of control
Lei's Real Talk
373K subscribers

"Rumors of Xi Jinping’s stroke, a sudden rare-earth export blitz, and Trump’s explosive 100% tariff threat — all within one week. What really happened behind Beijing’s dramatic U-turn? In this episode, we uncover the truth behind Trump’s remark that “Xi had a bad moment,” the internal power struggle shaking the CCP, and why China’s leadership crisis is far from over. From stroke rumors to trade chaos, this is the story of how Xi’s illusion of control began to crumble — and why the outcome of the Fourth Plenum could change China’s future."

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What’s Inside China’s Death Villages? (The Biggest Cover-Up Yet)
laowhy86
1.01M subscribers
Oct 14, 2025

"China's got 100s of villages that have been completely erased from the map."

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China hacking America’s critical infrastructure, retired four-star general warns | 60 Minutes
60 Minutes
3.8M subscribers
Oct 12, 2025

"Retired Gen. Tim Haugh, the former head of the NSA, warns that China is targeting the U.S. military, industry and also America’s critical infrastructure. He believes he knows why it's happening."

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How China could use U.S. farmland to attack America
60 Minutes
3.8M subscribers
Oct 12, 2025

"National security experts are concerned about farmland Chinese entities own in the U.S. that is next to sensitive sites, including critical infrastructure and military installations."

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China’s Darkest Secret: Baby Organs for the Elite
Lei's Real Talk
373K subscribers
Oct 2, 2025

"From Beijing’s military hospitals to secret “empty” clinics, shocking new evidence reveals the CCP’s darkest industry: infant organ transplants. Investigators say babies are being created and cut open—turned into “perfect donors” for China’s political and military elite obsessed with longevity. This video uncovers how the black chain works. With profit and power driving demand, baby organs have become the ultimate “human goldmine.” Is this medicine—or a crime against humanity? "

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Bessent Identifies CCP Official Who Threatened to ‘Unleash Chaos’
China in Focus - NTD
787K subscribers
10/15/25

"In a rare moment in diplomacy, U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent names a Chinese official who threatens global chaos if the U.S. imposes port fees on China. "I think his name is Lee Chenggang," Bessent said. "And, you know, threatening, saying that China would unleash chaos on the global system if the U.S. went ahead with our docking fees for Chinese ships."

In a tit-for-tat trade war, President Donald Trump is warning he may block Chinese cooking oil imports after Beijing stopped buying U.S. soybeans.

A new report reveals that more than 500 U.S. universities may be helping China’s military advance its technology. We take a closer look at what this means for U.S. national security.

Millions of Chinese electronics are disappearing from U.S. online stores over national security concerns. We take a closer look at what’s next for the FCC.

Japan’s confirmation of a new prime minister has been delayed until after Oct. 20. An expert offers insights into Sanae Takaichi’s potential premiership and her commonsense policies on defense.

00:00 Intro
00:52 Bessent Names CCP Official for Being Disrespectful
01:42 Bessent: CCP Commerce Official Threatens Global Chaos
04:53 World Financial Leaders Aim to Deter China’s Curbs
07:47 U.S., China Clash Over Soybean, Cooking Oil Trade
09:25 Top State Dept. Adviser Arrested Over Secret Documents
10:19 Report: 500+ U.S. Colleges Work With China’s Military
11:46 FCC Pulls Millions of Chinese Electronics From Stores
12:48 Netherlands Takes Control of Chinese-Owned Chipmaker
13:48 EU Seeks U.S. Alliance to Counter CCP Rare Earth Crackdown
15:24 UK Sanctions Chinese, Indian Firms Over Russian Oil
16:33 Takaichi’s Bid to Redefine Japanese Leadership "

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China’s System Is Breaking Down Before Our Eyes - They Can’t Hide This - Episode #285
The China Show
371K subscribers
Oct 17, 2025 4pm CST

"China is absolutely out of control right now! "

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Massive Purge of Xi Loyalists in Chinese Military
Forbidden News
Oct 19, 2025
https://substack.com/home/post/p-176585789

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"THEY WERE KEY FOR XI's PLANNED TAIWAN OPERATIONS & THEY WERE KEY TO HIS NUCLEAR MISSILE PROGRAM – BUT NOW, THEY'RE WAITING TO BE INDICTED

Lei’s Real Talk reports that on Friday, nine of the highest-ranking generals of the Chinese military were expelled in a single day, due to “serious crimes”, their cases handed over to military prosecutors for indictment. This is absolutely unprecedented and it comes just before the CCP’s Fourth Plenum, which starts on Monday.

Lei reports that all nine generals removed are considered to be Xi Jinping loyalists, saying, “They’re not just his loyalists, they are the pillars of the Xi Faction. They are his handpicked, diehard loyalists.”

What’s interesting is how the Western media is reporting this. They’re saying that Xi Jinping is behind the purge, when that simply doesn’t make sense, because these expelled generals were his loyalists. They were key for Xi’s planned Taiwan operations and they were key to his nuclear missile program – but now, they’re waiting to be indicted.

The nine generals are:

• He Weidong, China’s No. 2 general, the Vice Chairman of the Central Military Comission, who was Xi Jinping’s Right-Hand Man in the military. Xi had fast-tracked him. He was skipped three ranks to Central Military Comission Vice Chairman. Three years later, He is the shortest-serving CMC Vice Chairman and Politburo member in the CCP’s 76-year history, which is absolutely humiliating, not just for him but for Xi Jinping.

• Miao Hua, who was like Xi’s Left Hand Man. He came from Xi Jinping’s old base, the old 31st Group Army in Fujian and he was Xi Jinping’s chief political commissar and personnel boss, responsible for promoting senior officers and ensuring ideological loyalty. Lei says that Xi’s original plan was to have He Weidong succeed anti-Xi factionalist, Zhang Youxia as first CMC Vice Chairman, in order to form a triangle of absolute control but now, Xi Jinping’s got both hands chopped off.

• He Hongjun, who was promoted to a full general last July and also appointed Executive Deputy Director of the Political Department to replace Miao Hua.

• Wang Xiubin, who also came from Xi Jinping’s old base, the 31st Group Army in Fujian.

• Lin Xiangyang, who replaced He Weidong as Commander of the Eastern Theater. Lei says Lin rose from Lieutenant General to Full General in just 14 months – the fastest promotion, ever – and that Xi counted on General Lin to lead the Eastern Theater Command, the main force for any Taiwan operations. But before any war has begun, Lin has now been purged.

• Qin Shutong, like Miao Hua and Wang Xiubin, had once been political chief of Fujian’s 31st Group Army. He was supposed to be Xi Jinping’s trusted political inspector in the army but when Miao went down, Qin followed.

• Yuan Huazhi, who is similarly going down, due to the fall of his mentor, Miao.

• Wang Houbin is the fourth Rocket Force commander to be purged since 2023. Lei calls the Rocket Force Xi Jinping’s Crown Jewel, responsible for China’s nuclear and missile arsenal, key to both Taiwan operation and US deterrence. Lei says, “This elite branch has now lost four consecutive commanders under Xi and they’re not just consecutive...It’s only been around for 10 years. So it only has had four commanders, but they’re all gone...So think about it. One mistake is forgivable. Two, understandable. Three, disastrous. But four? That’s catastrophic, right? So, four rocket force commanders have been eliminated.”

• Wang Chunning, the Armed Police Chief, commander of over 1 million soldiers. Lei says Xi Jinping had trusted this man very much. He had restructured the armed police out of fear of coup. Xi purged the previous generals from the Jiang Zemin-Hu Jintao era and installed Wang Chunning but now, he’s been purged.

Nine generals – all handpicked by Xi Jinping, all loyal – all toppled.

You would think this would be headline news, but it’s not. Lei says Xinhua published the story, but they buried it in a place you could hardly find on their website and it was downplayed and mixed with unrelated stories.

So the question, of course is: Did Xi Jinping take down these generals himself, or was it his opponent, Zhang Youxia? Lei thinks the answer is obvious.

For months, Lei’s Real Talk has reported that Xi has lost power and that China’s political and military establishment has become divided into a pro-Xi hardliner faction that insists on fighting the US and the more US-friendly anti-Xi faction headed by retired CCP elders, including Hu Jintao, Wen Jiabao and the active duty General Zhang Youxia, that wants to ease tensions and to restore good relations.

Lei says:
“These loyalists, I believe, were taken down by Zhang Youxia. I don’t think Xi Jinping has the guts to take down this many of his own people. Even if he did, it would make him look very bad, and he has no reason to do it, unless they went against him.

“But there’s no way these nine generals would rebel against Xi Jinping alone, without the support of Zhang Youxia. It just doesn’t make sense. And the biggest evidence to me is the split between..the Defense Ministry and state media. Because if this were Xi Jinping’s move, state outlets like the People’s Daily, the CCTV, would be all over it, right? But they’re not. They muted the news and played it down.

“Remember, I said that Xi Jinping still controls 95% of the propaganda machine, even though he only controls 10% of the military. So that’s proof that this was not Xi Jinping’s action. It was Zhang Youxia’s doing.”

On Saturday, another bombshell dropped from political commentator Cai Shenkun, who has been accurate in the past and who is highly-respected and considered to be objective. He revealed to the Epoch Times that the military purge is far from over and that, following the expulsion of the first nine generals reported publicly, an additional 28 generals had been dismissed, including Xu Xueqiang, Xu Xisheng, Xiao Tianliang, Zhong Shaojun and Cai added, “I’ve been told there are still hundreds of generals waiting in line to be investigated.”

Cai said that according to credible sources, of the original nine generals purged on Friday, He Weidong is said to have died of a sudden heart attack in detention and He Hongjun had committed suicide (!)

Imagine if this were happening in the US military?

Lei says there is speculation that this is anti-Xi factionalist Zhang Youxia‘s last-ditch effort to prevent Xi Jinping from staging a comeback and to stop a civil war from breaking out inside the PLA or inside the CCP.

Lei says:
“It’s said that the battle between Xi Jinping and then the anti-Xi faction...has become so intense that Zhang Youxia hasn’t been going home at night, due to safety concerns. He works in the PLA Bayi Building during the day and goes to the Xishan Command Center to rest at night. But that was weeks ago. Now, he probably stays somewhere for the whole 24 hours.”

In Lei’s opinion, the CCP is openly divided and already at war. Xi Jinping doesn’t want to step down but Zhang Youxia is forcing him to do so – and the 3-day, closed-door Fourth Plenary Session to map out China’s five-year plan to 2030 starts on Monday."

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Patrick Byrne: "all roads lead to china but they also lead to the cia"

the 20-year worldwide digital election theft operation
patrick byrne: "all roads lead to china but they also lead to the cia"
forbidden.news
oct 18, 2025
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/the-20-year-worldwide-digital-election

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"dominion voting systems denies all allegations about them in this post.

In this short clip posted to telegram by patrick byrne from a recent lindell tv absolute truth podcast with him and emerald robinson, discussing the 20-year worldwide smartmatic election theft operation, he tells her that, while he’s often said that, “all roads lead to china,” he’s more recently started saying that, “the trail ultimately leads to the cia”
juan o savin has said several times that the building in which the election theft operation took place in belgrade, in which dominion’s massive chinese huawei servers are located is 50% owned by former cia director john brennan, together with “the second richest man in serbia”:

8-min highlight reel of 2.5-hr smartmatic whistleblower sworn testimony
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sep 30
8-min highlight reel of 2.5-hr smartmatic whistleblower sworn testimony
video: "8-min highlight reel of 2.5-hr smartmatic whistleblower sworn testimony" - pub. Sep 29. 2025 by forbiddenknowledgetv.net

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i’m guessing the latter might be media mogul, dragan Šolak, founder and part-owner of united group, which provides broadband, mobile and tv services in eight southeast european countries.

In september 2024, national file tweeted the timeline below, while speculating that china paid for fox’s settlement of dominion’s defamation lawsuit:

• 3/26/2021: Dominion sues fox news (news corp) for $1.6 billion

• 3/21/2022: Murdochs, news corp take $1.25 billion in loans, including $100 million from the ccp central bank

• 4/18/2023: News corp pays dominion voting nearly $800 million

• 4/25/2023: News corp fires tucker carlson

patrick byrne tells emerald now that some good researchers have found that it was the cia who loaned $1 billion to china for them to then loan to fox but he’s not sure yet if he can hang is hat on that.

Of the recent acquisition of dominion voting systems by liberty vote, patrick told emerald in another podcast last week:

“organized crime has this long history. They take companies, when the doj and the sec get too close, they fight all they can. And when they get too close, they just crack the company and shove it into another that they are really behind, as well. And they just play the shell game for decades with the doj and sec.

“they did this all through the ‘90s. If you’ve ever seen that movie, ‘wolf of wall street’, go look. Those companies, when they buy old dying companies that have premier names that people will recognize, and then they do a bunch of mischief in them. And then when they get caught, they sell themselves out to another company with an old name, but [say] that they ‘fell on hard times’. They just play these shell games for decades. So this could well be the same technique evolving in the election technology industry. That’d be my first guess.”

emerald concurs, referring the multiple mergers and acquisitions of these digital voting machine companies, as laid out by gary bertnsen and ralph pazzullo:

Election cartel whistleblowers revealed: Gary berntsen & ralph pezzullo
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election cartel whistleblowers revealed: Gary berntsen & ralph pezzullo
video: "election cartel whistleblowers revealed: Gary berntsen & ralph pezzullo" - pub. Sep 26, 2025 by forbiddenknowledgetv.net

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transcript

patrick byrne: I’m not going to cover for them on this election stuff. And i’ve been saying for four years, “all roads lead to china.” they do lead to china, but they also lead to cia cooperation at the top. The top of the cia was absolutely involved in this stuff. They knew about it. I think that that’s where the trail really leads. That’s something that we have to face.

They have fought teeth, toes, and fingernails these last four months to...sanitize tulsi’s official report.

I know the information she was given. I know the masses of federal agents involved in hoovering-up a massive quantity of information from quite a large number of people of all kinds of nationalities. And it got churned through the machine and the cia went ballistic.

It was a billion dollar loan from china to take care of it. But i’ve also been told, in recent research, there’s evidence that cia coordinated that.

Emerald robinson: The cia coordinated, potentially coordinated that chinese loan to fox?

Patrick byrne: I heard, from some of the research being done. I don’t know the details on that one, not enough to know whether i can – don’t hang my hat on that. But it came from our good research channels.

Emerald robinson: I will say there’s more people speaking-up about the potential agency ties to all of this. That’s something that seems to be growing. "
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see the full story:https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/mike-pompeo-and-his-cia-were-behind

"mike pompeo and his cia" were behind the 2020 election theft with china


video with info in above post

https://x.com/reallindelltv/status/1979282657889653110

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maybe this will lead to some more evidence? I know emerald robinson has been a major reporter and follower of this ongoing story...

https://x.com/reallindelltv/status/1979336642621247573

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Xi’s Purge Backfires—Zhang Youxia Takes Command
Lei's Real Talk
378K subscribers
Oct 20, 2025

"Xi Jinping’s call for war may not be about Taiwan—it’s about survival. As China’s Fourth Plenum nears, Xi faces the biggest military purge in CCP history: over half of the PLA’s top generals have vanished. Yet the man who now controls the army, Zhang Youxia, isn’t stopping Xi’s war rhetoric—he’s using it. Behind the façade of “military readiness,” Zhang is quietly transferring power from the civilian government to the PLA through new land-control laws and purges. This episode exposes how Xi’s desperate mobilization could trigger a hidden military takeover—and why China’s future now hinges on their deadly rivalry."

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Inside CCP’s 4th Plenum: Struggles, Purges, and Xi Jinping’s Future
Lei's Real Talk
378K subscribers
Streamed live 10/21/25

"China’s Fourth Plenum is underway — and it may decide Xi Jinping’s political fate. Behind closed doors in Beijing, the Party’s top leaders are meeting to chart China’s next five years — and possibly plan Xi’s exit. State media has gone silent, nine generals have been purged, and rumors of a quiet coup are spreading fast. In this episode, we break down what’s really happening inside the 4th Plenum — the strange split in China’s propaganda machine, the military’s growing role, and the hidden signs that Xi’s rule may be nearing its end. The meeting that decides Xi’s fate has already begun."

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China Behind the New Seduction War and Glock Ban - Massive School Collapse + More - Episode #286
The China Show
372K subscribers
10/24/25

"Wow, things have gotten really bad in China, and not enough people are talking about it."


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China’s Economy is Wrecked - The Real Reason They NEEDED a Trade Deal - Episode #287
The China Show
372K subscribers
10/31/25

(Same old dystopia, just getting lots worse every day...
Starting at 1hour 17 minutes into the video, news about the huge dam that China is constructing in Tibet now which is similar in size to the 3 Gorges. T
The 3GD has flooded 150 cities and destroyed 1500 villages in China so far, and is falling apart slowly but surely.
The new one in Tibet will not flood China but will flood India and other countries in its path.
Disaster seems to be the goal of the CCP, and they are really good at it.)

"Trade deal with China? Factories burn. People are rising up. Things are out of control."

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[onawah]

OOPS! - China's Astronauts Eat Chicken Then Get Stranded in Space - Episode #288
The China Show
373K subscribers
11/7/25

"The biggest PR bungle the CCP has done in ages. It's both hilarious and alarming."

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[Jaak]

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[onawah]

Japan and US Respond to Chinese Diplomat’s Beheading Threat
Takaichi called her remarks 'hypothetical,' but stood by them.
By Mary Man
Published: 11/10/2025
https://www.ntd.com/japan-and-us-respond-to-chinese-diplomats-beheading-threat_1106924.html?utm_source=ntddailynoe&src_src=ntddailynoe&utm_campaign=ntd-2025-11-11&src_cmp=ntd-2025-11-11&utm_medium=email

"A Chinese “wolf warrior” diplomat’s provocative statements have received criticism and protests from Japan and internationally.

On Monday, Japan criticised China’s consul general in Osaka, Xue Jian, who posted on X a veiled death threat after Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi suggested that Tokyo could become involved in military action if Taiwan were attacked by Beijing.

Minoru Kihara, Japan’s Chief Cabinet Secretary, told reporters on Monday that Xue’s statements were “extremely inappropriate.” He said Japan’s foreign ministry and the Japanese embassy in China had lodged a protest and asked for the post to be deleted.

Xue’s threat targeted Takaichi’s remarks on Nov. 7, when she said that Chinese military action against Taiwan—such as a naval blockade involving warships and the “use of force”—could constitute a “survival-threatening situation” for Japan. Under Japanese law, such a situation could allow Japan to exercise “collective self-defence.”

In response, Xue shared a news article citing Takaichi’s comments on X on Saturday and commented, “cut off a dirty neck without a moment of hesitation, Are you ready for that?” followed by an angry-face emoji.

Xue’s post went viral in Japan, amassing multiple screenshots before he deleted it (likely by Sunday). Many in Japan, along with global political activists, called for declaring Xue persona non grata and expelling him from Japan.

European Parliament member Miriam Lexmann said on X, “What utterly disgusting remarks, typical of communists around the world responsible for tens of millions of dead.”
The U.S. ambassador to Tokyo George Glass also criticised Xue’s threat to Takaichi and the Japanese people. He responded to Xue’s post, saying it was “time for Beijing to behave like the ‘good neighbor’ it talks repeatedly about—but fails repeatedly to become.”
Karen Kuo, spokesperson for the presidential office in Taiwan, said Taiwan “takes seriously the threatening remarks made by Chinese officials toward Japan. Such behavior clearly exceeds diplomatic etiquette,” Kuo said in a statement.

While China’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Lin Jian made no apology on Nov. 10, he called Takaichi’s words “wrongful” and urged Japan to “stop interfering in China’s internal affairs.”
Lin’s response was soon posted by Xue on his own X account.
'A Taiwan Contingency Is a Japan Contingency'
Takaichi said her remarks were “hypothetical” in parliament on Monday, but she stood by her comments when asked to clarify her position.
“Although I did state a number of possible scenarios, I also said the government will make a comprehensive judgment on whether the situation constitutes a ‘survival-threatening situation’ taking into account all information,” she said.

She clarified that Chinese ships merely encircling Taiwan would not be recognized as “a survival-threatening situation” for Japan, but if Beijing imposed a naval blockade amid fighting, that would constitute such a situation, prompting Japan to dispatch its Self-Defense Forces in support.

Beijing claims sovereignty over Taiwan, which it has never ruled. Taiwan’s democratically elected government firmly rejects this claim.

Unlike her predecessors, who tried not to mention Taiwan in public speeches to avoid confrontation with China, Takaichi—a close protégé and ideological heir to the late Shinzo Abe—echoed Abe-era rhetoric that “a Taiwan contingency is a Japan contingency.”

It’s not the first time Takaichi has irritated the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) within her first month in office. Two weeks ago, she angered Beijing by sharing a photo of her sidelines meeting with a Taiwanese representative at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Seoul earlier this month.

U.S. President Donald Trump has said Xi told him he will not invade Taiwan while the Republican president is in office.

The United States stations 50,000 troops in Japan and 28,500 troops in South Korea. Last Tuesday, when U.S. War Secretary Pete Hegseth was asked at a press conference if U.S. troops in South Korea could be used against China in the Taiwan Strait, Hegseth said he would adopt “strategic flexibility” to pivot rapidly to hotspots.

“There’s no doubt flexibility for regional contingencies is something we would take a look at,” he said.

Reuters contributed to this report."

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Not suprising--that's so typical....
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[onawah]

China’s Brand New Bridge Collapsed and We Found the REAL REASON WHY - Episode #289
The China Show
11/14/25
374K subscribers

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[onawah]

Another bridge in China in the news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5wDCNa_wk

China’s New VIRAL Mega Bridge is Embarrassing - HUGE Scandal Exposed - Episode #284
The China Show
370K subscribers
Scheduled for Oct 10, 2025 4pm CST

(Nearly an hour long segment starting at 33 minutes into the video about the bridge and what it's really all about {propaganda}, plus lots of examples of bridges the CCP built recently which have fallen apart, with many lives lost. {Not to mention the countless CCP-built highways, dams, buildings etc. that suffer the same fate, both in China and in countries where the CCP has put Belt & Road Initiative projects.}
No doubt the newest glamour project will follow suit, but if the 3 Gorges Dam fails (which is estimated by experts to be just a matter of time), it will all seem somewhat inconsequential by comparison.)

"We uncovered the sinister truth behind China's mega bridge."

Some Sources -
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/09/te...

Salary data in Anlong https://tjgb.hongheiku.com/xjtjgb/xj2...

Salary data in Fenggang
https://www.gzfenggang.gov.cn/zwgk/zf...

https://www.researchgate.net/publicat...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s4358...

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/...

BRIDGE SOURCES -
1981 Liziyida Bridge (Chengdu–Kunming Railway), Sichuan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Ch...
1999 Qijiang “Rainbow” Pedestrian Bridge, Chongqing
https://www.engineeringcivil.com/civi...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qijiang...
2007 Jiujiang Bridge, Foshan (Guangdong)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaps...
2007 Fenghuang (Tuojiang) Bridge, Hunan (under construction)
https://www.scmp.com/article/606792/d...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Fe...
2009 Hongqi Road Viaduct, Zhuzhou (Hunan)
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...
2010 Tangying Bridge, Luanchuan (Henan)
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/55...
https://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=...
2010 Nanjing Overpass (under construction), Jiangsu
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...
2011 Gongguan Bridge, Wuyishan (Fujian)
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...
2012 Hangzhou Viaduct dismantling accident, Zhejiang
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/20120...
2012 East Guangchang River Bridge, Jiangxi
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/20120...
2012 Yangmingtan Bridge (ramp), Harbin (Heilongjiang)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangmin...
2013 Lianhuo Expressway Bridge (Mianchi, Henan)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ch...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-c...
2014 Gaozhou stone-arch bridge, Guangdong
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...
2014 Jinshan Bridge, Enshi (Hubei) (under construction)
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3417/10/6/2112
2016 Ganjiang Bridge (dismantling), Taihe (Jiangxi)
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/20160...
2019 Wuxi S342 Overpass, Jiangsu
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ch...
https://www.caixinglobal.com/2019-11-...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/1...
2021 S2 Ezhou Expressway Ramp Bridge, Hubei
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/b...
2024 Lixinsha Bridge, Guangzhou (Guangdong)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Li...
2024 Danning (G4015) Expressway Bridge, Zhashui (Shaanxi)
https://apnews.com/article/shaanxi-ch...
2024 Yakang Expressway Bridge (near Kangding), Sichuan
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/artic...
2025 Jianzha Yellow River Bridge (under construction), Qinghai
https://abc13.com/post/china-bridge-c...
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[Jaak]

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[onawah]

The reason for tracking knives in China is in part because guns are illegal, so knives are the chosen hand weapon.
But the reasoning is similar to that behind the existence of countless "bollards" all over China, which are supposed to keep people from deliberately driving their vehicles into crowds with the intention of killing them.
(Although like so much there, they are so poorly planned and put together that they are often worse than useless.)
Such attacks especially on children with vehicles and knives are very common in China, as revenge against society.
See:
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[onawah]

Do Not Take This Chinese Pill! You'll go Insane!

Do Not Take This Chinese Pill! You'll go Insane!
serpentza
1.58M subscribers
Nov 19, 2025

(Here is Winston's take on the matter (Winston is one of the two creators of " The China Show". Interesting synchronicity!)

"This dangerous "Shill Pill" is causing havoc worldwide!"
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It's encouraging to see someone (Oliver) who has spent time in China and is willing to share the experience truthfully.
(We had another member living in China a while ago who was posting lots of propaganda about how wonderful the intentional (cult) community was there where she was living, headed by a polygamist who was fathering lots of children on community members. Until she finally escaped to Thailand...)

So thanks to Oliver, and I'm sure I don't need to caution him about staying there if he is going to continue being vocal about what it's really like in China; that being that there may be retribution from the CCP if he gets noticed.
I've often wondered if some of the technical problems the forum has been having is connected to the CCP's insane censorship policies and hacking attacks.
They shouldn't be too upset because very few members seem to be paying attention or responding to the posts I make here about the very dystopian conditions there, which are making China the tragic blueprint for the Clown World of all Clown Worlds.
But possibly there are non-members paying attention because the posts do get "views" even if few to no comments or "likes".
Though I have received thanks from some members privately, and encouragement not to quit just because it seems like the subject is getting so little attention.

If I were Chinese and living in China, I would be doing all I could to get out of there permanently and making sure all my family members did too. If one citizen escapes and begins doing things that the CCP doesn't like, they will hold the escapee's family hostage to make the truthteller quit. Which is probably why not as many people flee as you might think...

It's difficult to imagine a whole country of people becoming so traumatized and dumbed down that most of them are simply incapable of seeing the truth right in front of their eyes.
But easy enough to imagine how they could see the truth and simply be much too frightened to speak it. :silent: :censored: :tape2:
Given the huge traumas the people of China have undergone since Mao, and continue to undergo, we can easily see why the novels "1984" and "Brave New World" came about and continue to be cited decades after they were written, and how what they depicted could actually come true.
And IS becoming true right before our eyes, for those who are paying attention.

Speaking to the issue John Hilton raised here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113363-BREAKING-NEWS-Continuously-Updated&p=1692382&viewfull=1#post1692382
There are so many threads about so many subjects on the forum many times important posts just seem to go under the radar, but "Breaking News" gets a lot of attention so it gets used for timely issues that members just really want to bring to everyone's attentionm, even if it's not exactly "breaking news".
I am guilty of that myself, and I don't have any solutions to offer.
It is what it is...:noidea:



Every single stranger with whom I spoke to for more than a couple of sentences (plus a fair proportion of people I already knew) did that for a week.


...being a billionaire doesn't put you beyond the CCPs reach. Nor does living in the USA.

Given my current (likely not well informed) view of the CCP, if I were Chinese, from mainland China, then I would reserve my real take on controversial matters to private moments with long time trusted friends and family, and "speak the party line" right up front in other contexts or with other individuals.

[Flash]

Onawah, this sentence of yours made me laugh

<It's difficult to imagine a whole country of people becoming so traumatized and dumbed down that most of them are simply incapable of seeing the truth right in front of their eyes.>

It is exactly what most people in most countries in the world think of Americans right now.

We never see our own (including me), but always think we see others from the right perspective. Cognitive biaises.

[onawah]

Yes, but...
When you spend enough time watching videos of people in China doing the most ridiculous things imaginable (and I've spent a lot of time doing just that, videos being a lot more informative than words), and realize the extent to which the dumbing down has happened there, it becomes easy to award the booby prizes in accurate order. The idiocy there is on an entirely different scale, including that of the CCP themselves, who are the designers and architects of the mass, monumental stupidity.


Onawah, this sentence of yours made me laugh

<It's difficult to imagine a whole country of people becoming so traumatized and dumbed down that most of them are simply incapable of seeing the truth right in front of their eyes.>

It is exactly what most people in most countries in the world think of Americans right now.

We never see our own (including me), but always think we see others from the right perspective. Cognitive biaises.

Anyway, all disagreement aside, it's nice to see someone responding to one of my posts about China. :flower:

[onawah]

The Antichrist Beast System Exists
From Facebook
11/20/25
"Monta Welch
"Michael Besson shares this warning today.
Faith in Jesus forbids us from receiving the Mark of the Beast, which acts like an access card to buy or sell. (See Revelation chapter 13)
The system will lock you out of your apartment, turn off your car, turn off your digital money.
This will starve those who have no other provisions." (Pastor Nafty)
1:24 / 2:20
Michael Besson
🚨 THE 666 DIGITAL SLAVERY SYSTEM “isn’t coming soon”, it’s already here. 👿
OVER 15 HUGE AMERICAN COMPANIES BUILT THIS DIGITAL SLAVERY MODEL - IT WILL END UP WORLDWIDE  —
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE 👇😳
A chilling look inside Shanghai’s AI-powered surveillance “Urban Brain” system — the blueprint for the social credit grid spreading across China… and soon, the West.
In Pudong, a single control room can monitor every resident in real time:
• Every building mapped
• Every vacancy tracked
• Every elderly person living alone logged
• Every movement recorded
• Every behaviour scored
And it gets worse.
Trash not sorted correctly?
Cameras catch you from three angles.
Park in the wrong place?
Your violation is uploaded instantly.
Residents themselves are enlisted as watchers — snapping photos, reporting one another, feeding the central AI.
The system then auto-assigns punishments and sends enforcement teams out via mobile app.
This isn’t policing.
This isn’t governance.
This is algorithmic control of human life.
Chinese state media brags that police can now identify every person on the street within one second.
This is the model global elites admire.
This is the system the EU, WEF and UN are openly “studying.”
This is the digital architecture Western governments keep calling “smart cities.”
It is nothing less than an automated dictatorship.
The warning is simple:
What you see in Shanghai today is what they want for London, Ottawa, Berlin, Auckland and beyond tomorrow.
We are one bad, false fraudulent election away from this nonsense hitting Americaz
Stay alert.
Stay awake.
Stay free."

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´Digital ID: A Grave Warning From A Chinese Exile´--XBaAUWc4GDg--8 min--Nov 19, 2025 SPEAKERS' CORNER

[onawah]

CHINA IS LITERALLY BLOWING ITSELF UP - Terrifying Explosion Crisis NO ONE Talks About - Episode #290
The China Show
374K subscribers
Streaming live
11/21/25
(Youtube censored last week's China Show because of the pivotal segment about the brand new bridge that just collapsed in China, though the reason Youtube claimed was because of a seconds long segment that has been on the China Show many times.
(...Of a Chinese woman kicking a male British tourist in a sensitive area).
Though so far, the only episode that Youtube has taken down is the one with the footage of the collapsing bridge.
Lots more about the censorship on social media about China, and especially the CCP's censorship and propaganda, including a spotlight on the CCP's current hostility toward Japan.
Though as usual, the guys take a humorous and light-hearted approach to reporting the dismal news about China which makes learning the truth less depressing. )

"What the heck is happening? 23,000 factories burn in one year (2025)... "

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[onawah]

The Hong Kong Mega Fire - We Found the Truth - Episode #291
The China Show
375K subscribers
11/28/25
Live streaming now

"The Hong Kong fires are no mystery"

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[onawah]

China's Unseen Controversy Just Hit Nuclear Levels - Episode #292
The China Show
375K subscribers
12/5/25

"China's new knee jerk e-bike regulations and delivery controversy has caused a massive problem in the country, and they're trying to find out how to cope."

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