The Truth - Those Who Accept the Truth & Those Who Reject It

[Free Thinker]

As the storm of the world continues in its chaotic, albeit beautiful transmutative maelstrom of light vs dark, love vs hate, good vs evil and so on, there are those (such as on this forum) who see the Truth for what it is, and fully and wholeheartedly accept it. We know and accept Love and Truth. We know what's coming and we are doing our best to prepare for it.

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up? Will the Truth hit so hard and fast that everyone else will have no choice but to wake up and see the dark matrix that surrounds us? How will they deal with it? Will they deal with it? If so, how? Will they fight to resist it, going down kicking and screaming? Or will they too, choose to embrace the ideals of freedom and happiness as we do and join us in creating this new earthly paradigm of peace and love? Perhaps a little of both?

Obviously a lot of speculative questions here. No definitives wanted nor needed here. Just looking for other people's ideas and suggestions on what they feel and think might happen and how to best handle those that actively (and vehemently) reject the Truth that is all around us. Especially when those rejectees are one's own family members.

In any case, I do what I need to do to focus on and prepare myself. Keep myself calm, be educated/knowledgeable as much as possible, meditate, ground/center, stay mindful, practice awareness and alertness, read, read, read, detox, eat healthier, and do whatever other spiritual practices and make whatever lifestyle changes that I need to in order to overcome anything sent my way. Not always easy to do when one is surrounded by those who choose to remain deceived. But I know where I stand. I just hope the others realize what kind of world we're living in before it's too late. Or is there such a thing as "too late"? Is that the wrong way to think about this kind of thing? Or will we all eventually acknowledge the Truth of it all, some people who just take longer to wake up than others.

Thoughts?

[TomKat]

Reminds me of what James Howard Kunstler said:
"You can't negotiate with reality."

[Patient]

Some people are just not ready for some things...why? Is it their belief structure or how they were raised?

I don't think so. There are clearly different types of people. There are athletes that are not intelligent, there are intelligent people that are not athletes. There is a small amount that get a special mixture of both.

Perhaps there is something to people that we have not found an easy way to measure. Maybe it is the evolution of the soul, the amount of lives the person has lived?

How far along do you have to be? Or do I have it backwards? Maybe some of us have not been here long enough to be dumbed down?

Yeah, I seem to always have more questions that answers. That is why I didn't do well in school, because I had a hard time accepting an answer to a question. It just never seemed to be enough. So I will stop now. :)

[pueblo]

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up? Will the Truth hit so hard and fast that everyone else will have no choice but to wake up and see the dark matrix that surrounds us? How will they deal with it? Will they deal with it? If so, how? Will they fight to resist it, going down kicking and screaming? Or will they too, choose to embrace the ideals of freedom and happiness as we do and join us in creating this new earthly paradigm of peace and love? Perhaps a little of both?


Have you ever considered the possibility that there are perhaps different types of humans/souls? The NPC (Non-Player Character) meme is interesting.

[helium]

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up? Will the Truth hit so hard and fast that everyone else will have no choice but to wake up and see the dark matrix that surrounds us? How will they deal with it? Will they deal with it? If so, how? Will they fight to resist it, going down kicking and screaming? Or will they too, choose to embrace the ideals of freedom and happiness as we do and join us in creating this new earthly paradigm of peace and love? Perhaps a little of both?


Have you ever considered the possibility that there are perhaps different types of humans/souls? The NPC (Non-Player Character) meme is interesting.

Nice questions. I've been working on some writing lately that focuses on responsibility. As the world changes around me on a daily basis, and as those changes could result in the end of life in this body, I've been adjusting my sense of responsibility for those who can't be reached. It's a matter of redefining priorities. But everyone is not the same. Besides NPC's perhaps there are super-player characters. Those who play huge roles often behind the scenes and are especially trained to respond to whatever situation they're 'assigned.' Expand the playing field to the non-physical and perhaps these super-players are working on many levels at the same time, all interconnected with daily physical lives in the overall social systems available at the moment on the planet. These super-players may well be familiarizing themselves with the human condition while preparing to oversee mass transitions, to manage deaths on a massive scale.

Are these super-players recognizable? Can we identify them? If they exist I suspect that they are not public figures. They can't afford the time nor the energy to play exalted social roles. The simple act of accepting embodiment puts limits on the super-player. They're likely far more effective in their roles when not operating as embodied persons.

I wonder if said super-players are in fact human at all. I suspect they are not. I also suspect that they find themselves drawn into this circus of a world and are often asking the same questions you pose here.

[Delight]

As the storm of the world continues in its chaotic, albeit beautiful transmutative maelstrom of light vs dark, love vs hate, good vs evil and so on, there are those (such as on this forum) who see the Truth for what it is, and fully and wholeheartedly accept it. We know and accept Love and Truth. We know what's coming and we are doing our best to prepare for it.


I feel like that is exactly why I am living. Not sure that I see the Truth for what it is. I am trying to clear my mind. However, I am very committed to what I suspect is TRUE as it comes from my heart. I think it is TRUE that I create my reality due to my conditioned mind that makes patterns and I am STUCK in one.

To change my pattern is my intention and all I can do is work with THAT. For instance, I am SO committed to transmuting War. As much as I hate it, I believe it is true. It is not as deep a belief as control. I am speaking here in BROAD ways about these issues at the heart of my heart. This cannot be dealt with through my mind.

So I say, what qualities will I feel that have no war attached? Then I ask the Living God force to help me with the energy of war and transmute it... it feels like a mass in my chest and I imagine it being kneaded like bread. The feeling of the transmutation is MORE REAL than anything outside me. It is definitely applying a greater energy and different information.

I am ready to experience what it would be like to set MIND "truth" aside and focus all on qualities. So in "war", the MIND makes up how qualities are experienced. I feel so many qualities I really LOVE and know war channels many of these same values for the "collective". There is value in passion, loyalty, bravery, good versus evil, goodness, romance and to will them and feel them without the "war structure" is my aim.

AH ROMANCE. I have always yearned to find treasure and meet enlightened beings. Some do achieve a ROMANCE and GREAT LIFE. I believe we could all be in romances. On the WHOLE, I sense a root discouragement of authentic being. It is bound up in CONTROL. Therefore that is the root of my belief.

I support the idea that maybe this is a kind of simulation where when we learn we are FREE in the mind, we change a landscape. I imagine a land without war and control and castes and "function in society".

In the mid-elite of the minion class, people are MIGHTILY controlled. They are set up as managers of the war, as controllers under orders and perfunctionaries that mostly only know a compartment. The roles can be varied widely but are not free. Maybe one can love a family and have a soft life doing what is asked. Be a good citizen in your world. These lives may have a quiet dissatisfaction but mostly the control worked to shape a mindset of being proud to serve.

I have more insight into why the elite think we peons are deplorable. It is because simply, we are NOT of their kind. We have been beat down and the whole system is predicated on up and down separated layers.

The system is meant to go on forever. BUT it can only work because we think this is the TRUTH. It is buried so deep in our bones that it is our rock. War is death and control is slavery. We are accepting and replicate scenes endlessly over "time". IMO as long as we act out death, we are devolved and as long as we are devolved, we will never experience the true reality of our being. IMO some of us are ready to start evolving again. IMO it has to have a basic LOVE for life. One cannot be at war any longer or desire to control and be in love IMO... so that is true for me.

Lots of information is now available on how to deprogram our POV and so there is a positive force in line with evolution that seems up against a behemoth of death wish for life. I think that seems true but ready to be dissolved.

There is a serious feudalism at play that is hard to ditch. I do not believe in Royalty but do see that deep down I still believe that maybe some ARE better than others. This is a belief I recognize is FALSE but clinging.

I would not be surprised that the TRUTH is just a construct in the mind in any fashion, except for the truth of BEING (which you have to uncover by letting go of the mind): To become unlearned. IMO we have help through betrayal of various kinds. That is because to feel betrayed, you must have trusted?

We peel away the constructs as it disillusions us. We are disappointed into a REAL contact with something we cannot call TRUTH because it is without form and amenable to all mind forms in our experience. The caste system is IMO meant to perpetuate the control that is won by shaping the minds of all beings who OTHERWISE might imagine something wholely foriegn to the system?

[Mypos]

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up? Will the Truth hit so hard and fast that everyone else will have no choice but to wake up and see the dark matrix that surrounds us? How will they deal with it? Will they deal with it? If so, how? Will they fight to resist it, going down kicking and screaming? Or will they too, choose to embrace the ideals of freedom and happiness as we do and join us in creating this new earthly paradigm of peace and love? Perhaps a little of both?


Have you ever considered the possibility that there are perhaps different types of humans/souls? The NPC (Non-Player Character) meme is interesting.

This is very interesting. Just the other day i was driving somewhere and i saw this van with maintenance workers somewhere. And exactly that thought (you write about here) popped into my head. I have read about it somewhere a few years ago. I thought to myself "these maintenance workers allways look exactly the same to me, little dudes with black hair. Do they have like a supply of those people somewhere or something? Like they were not really "normal" people. But more like some sort of robots." This would mean we would live in some sort of a Truman Show kind of world. I would love to read or learn more about this subject. If you have any links you can share you would make me happy!

[Mypos]

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up? Will the Truth hit so hard and fast that everyone else will have no choice but to wake up and see the dark matrix that surrounds us? How will they deal with it? Will they deal with it? If so, how? Will they fight to resist it, going down kicking and screaming? Or will they too, choose to embrace the ideals of freedom and happiness as we do and join us in creating this new earthly paradigm of peace and love? Perhaps a little of both?


Have you ever considered the possibility that there are perhaps different types of humans/souls? The NPC (Non-Player Character) meme is interesting.

Nice questions. I've been working on some writing lately that focuses on responsibility. As the world changes around me on a daily basis, and as those changes could result in the end of life in this body, I've been adjusting my sense of responsibility for those who can't be reached. It's a matter of redefining priorities. But everyone is not the same. Besides NPC's perhaps there are super-player characters. Those who play huge roles often behind the scenes and are especially trained to respond to whatever situation they're 'assigned.' Expand the playing field to the non-physical and perhaps these super-players are working on many levels at the same time, all interconnected with daily physical lives in the overall social systems available at the moment on the planet. These super-players may well be familiarizing themselves with the human condition while preparing to oversee mass transitions, to manage deaths on a massive scale.

Are these super-players recognizable? Can we identify them? If they exist I suspect that they are not public figures. They can't afford the time nor the energy to play exalted social roles. The simple act of accepting embodiment puts limits on the super-player. They're likely far more effective in their roles when not operating as embodied persons.

I wonder if said super-players are in fact human at all. I suspect they are not. I also suspect that they find themselves drawn into this circus of a world and are often asking the same questions you pose here.

Maybe Oracle Girl can be one of these super-players you describe? She says she kinda is so...

[pueblo]

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up? Will the Truth hit so hard and fast that everyone else will have no choice but to wake up and see the dark matrix that surrounds us? How will they deal with it? Will they deal with it? If so, how? Will they fight to resist it, going down kicking and screaming? Or will they too, choose to embrace the ideals of freedom and happiness as we do and join us in creating this new earthly paradigm of peace and love? Perhaps a little of both?


Have you ever considered the possibility that there are perhaps different types of humans/souls? The NPC (Non-Player Character) meme is interesting.

This is very interesting. Just the other day i was driving somewhere and i saw this van with maintenance workers somewhere. And exactly that thought (you write about here) popped into my head. I have read about it somewhere a few years ago. I thought to myself "these maintenance workers allways look exactly the same to me, little dudes with black hair. Do they have like a supply of those people somewhere or something? Like they were not really "normal" people. But more like some sort of robots." This would mean we would live in some sort of a Truman Show kind of world. I would love to read or learn more about this subject. If you have any links you can share you would make me happy!

I can't think of where to link you for more info, search for 'walk-ins', NPCs etc. John Lash may get into this too, search for his book 'Not in his Image', think it's available as a free pdf. * edit: It's available on the Avalon Library!
https://projectavalon.net/John_Lash_Not_In_His_Image.pdf

Although the bible is unfortunately a very unreliable document in many respects it does contain some vestiges of truth... perhaps this parable points towards an essential truth about humanity?

In this parable from Matthew we have the True Father sowing his seed (Spirit/Divine Spark) and then we have an enemy that comes and sows bad seeds.....who exactly are these bad seeds? Might they be the controllers, the "elite", the hidden hands, the murderers, abusers, rapists and warmongers, the true psychopathic lovers of evil? who exactly is the enemy???



- Matthew 13: 24-29
The Parable of the Weeds

24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.

27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’

29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”

For elaboration read this..


Matthew 13:36-43
The Parable of the Weeds Explained

36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”

37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.

40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear.

[Gracy]

there are those (such as on this forum) who see the Truth for what it is, and fully and wholeheartedly accept it. We know and accept Love and Truth. We know what's coming and we are doing our best to prepare for it.

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up?

Well Free Thinker, before we get all full of ourselves that we know "the truth", and to then start tending to matters of how to deal with those who don't know "the truth", can we at least first define what that truth even is?

And like are there many truths, or just one big Truth?

Me? I'm still in the process of trying to figure a lot of things out. :flower:

[pueblo]

there are those (such as on this forum) who see the Truth for what it is, and fully and wholeheartedly accept it. We know and accept Love and Truth. We know what's coming and we are doing our best to prepare for it.

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up?

Well Free Thinker, before we get all full of ourselves that we know "the truth", and to then start tending to matters of how to deal with those who don't know "the truth", can we at least first define what that truth even is?

And like are there many truths, or just one big Truth?

Me? I'm still in the process of trying to figure a lot of things out. :flower:


There is only one Truth but many things are true?

[Pam]

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up? Will the Truth hit so hard and fast that everyone else will have no choice but to wake up and see the dark matrix that surrounds us? How will they deal with it? Will they deal with it? If so, how? Will they fight to resist it, going down kicking and screaming? Or will they too, choose to embrace the ideals of freedom and happiness as we do and join us in creating this new earthly paradigm of peace and love? Perhaps a little of both?


Have you ever considered the possibility that there are perhaps different types of humans/souls? The NPC (Non-Player Character) meme is interesting.

What if......this is a simulation that is played independently. For instance, I am the primary player in my simulation of the game but my simulation reality is connected and interactive with a larger group and manifestation of reality is created through a sort of algorithm to create a consensus reality. There is not one consensus reality. The levels of reality are not rigid they split off endlessly. Adept players can knowingly or unknowingly move to different levels by interacting with the metaphysical or energetic aspect of the game. Some 'players' may in fact be running on a total default program which would make them a sort of NPC. I don't know if they could leave that status or if they never ventured out of the original program.

The strange thing is that over the last year and a half I have lead a more reclusive lifestyle I have begun to observe the probability that what I have just stated is likely true, I am sure I don't have this thing accurately figured out. I have been observing either glitches or irregularities that are becoming more apparent or more likely, I am less distracted and more aware so I observe better. I am having way to many synchronicities (for lack of a better word) for these to be random occurrences.

I believe the game offers many clues that it is exactly that. The challenge is that from day one we are encouraged to practice cognitive dissonance and I believe this is very intentional. That makes it really easy to overlook all kinds of things. Part of mastering the game is making a decision not to practice cognitive dissonance to the best of your ability and it is a very painful discipline.

The culmination of the level of the game , which is the culmination of this system of things allows for all sorts of absurdity that is right in our faces. It requires almost a complete shield of cognitive dissonance to play in the believers mode or more accurately the default mode. This game has the ability to be an incredible character builder or destroyer or it can be played as a momentary distraction.

[ExomatrixTV]

Replace all (complex) dualistic labels in to 4 simplifications, is it:


01. "harmonious" vs "disharmonious"?
02. "harmful" vs "not harmful / healing"?
03. "empowering" vs "dis-empowering"?
04. "respecting freedoms & basic human rights" vs "imposing more and more tyranny via technocracy (https://www.technocracy.news/)"

Could or would these 4 simplifications insight help? ... or are people stuck to (invest in) their own agendas too much and refuse to see the bigger picture in an honest & fair way.

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
June, 2nd 2021

[Free Thinker]

there are those (such as on this forum) who see the Truth for what it is, and fully and wholeheartedly accept it. We know and accept Love and Truth. We know what's coming and we are doing our best to prepare for it.

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up?

Well Free Thinker, before we get all full of ourselves that we know "the truth", and to then start tending to matters of how to deal with those who don't know "the truth", can we at least first define what that truth even is?

And like are there many truths, or just one big Truth?

Me? I'm still in the process of trying to figure a lot of things out. :flower:

Going to clarify my earlier words. Perhaps it would have been better to state "being more open to the truth, whatever that is", or "being able to see pointers to the truth better than before", as well as "being more in tune with my own truth or the beginnings thereof."

THAT is what I was initially trying to say. Thank you for pointing out the utter bigotness of how my opening statement first came across. LOL :)

Yes, at some level I always knew that there were infinite truths making up one Big Grand Greater Truth. We in a sense, are each our own libraries or universes of knowledge when it comes to that very thing. The greater Truth of it all might very well be completely and totally unknowable for most, if not all of us, for a very very long time.

Again, thank you for allowing me to restate what I actually meant. :)

[Free Thinker]

As far as different types of souls go, there is this book I have by Doreen Virtue called 'Earth Angels'. Publication Date: September 1, 2002

https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Angels-Doreen-Virtue/dp/1401900488/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622677129&sr=1-4

I have yet to fully read thru all of it (even though I've had it for years), but it's on my to-read list. As are other books. What can I say, I've been rather distracted over the difficult years of my life. Otherwise I would have already read it many times over even.

And then there is the concept and idea of Star Children, Star Adults or rather I should say, Star Souls and other Star Seeds. But one thing at a time for now, I feel. :)

Edit: This was a response to pueblo on their question/speculation about different types of people/beings/souls, apologies for any confusion on that. Just to be clear.

[Merkaba360]

Some people are just not ready for some things...why? Is it their belief structure or how they were raised?

I don't think so. There are clearly different types of people. There are athletes that are not intelligent, there are intelligent people that are not athletes. There is a small amount that get a special mixture of both.

Perhaps there is something to people that we have not found an easy way to measure. Maybe it is the evolution of the soul, the amount of lives the person has lived?

How far along do you have to be? Or do I have it backwards? Maybe some of us have not been here long enough to be dumbed down?

Yeah, I seem to always have more questions that answers. That is why I didn't do well in school, because I had a hard time accepting an answer to a question. It just never seemed to be enough. So I will stop now. :)

Perhaps some entities are moving up from the animal kingdom or something like that. Their first lives are quiet confused and ignorant and are like one of these naive innocent people with no higher mental developement. If beings are coming from higher more aware realms, then it could be a 1 life task and out, if its possible to not get attached somehow. Or their first few lives are highly aware before they descend down into ignorance deeper. So could have both rookies and long term veterans who are the most aware.

The NPC idea is quite funny and I just dont know what to think. For me it comes up when i think about resetting this life and keep doing it over and over in various ways. An infinite possible universe allowing a reset, but aren't no 2 rivers the same? No two 3D printed objects are identical, but we wouldnt notice the difference. IF the game repeated and was essentially exactly the same then that would be some kind of superconscious freewill to replay the game exactly the same. But somehow that seems unlikely or impossible or undesirable with our need for variety.

So , the big question is.....if i wanted to live this life 100 times....same same but different each iteration...then, who are all the other people and animals forced to relive too. If we just think of it as only one being here, then im doing everything, not the little me. Then im the only ego with some free will while my super ego has the rest of the freewill controlling all of you guys which are controlled by me outside of my conscious self. lol That makes the game seem a bit too phony though. Its really hard to sort this out given the answer is gonna be paradoxical. Any thoughts?

As far as accepting the truth. I would say that a big event(s) will be sort of like a last call for those who are evolved enough to face reality. I would guess some who really like the illusion as its been for the past 1000s of years will just have no rationality in face of the obvious. But i dont know if the collective can over power them. Like if aliens move in, clearly they cant ignore it if we are all living amongst aliens. But can a shift in perception of the collective force them to shift into the new perception.

Could we coexist perceiving much different worlds , something like us vs the aborigines or us vs animals? hmm Does anybody know these things? lol I wish the dang gurus would answer some of these questions instead of the usual repetition.

[Merkaba360]

there are those (such as on this forum) who see the Truth for what it is, and fully and wholeheartedly accept it. We know and accept Love and Truth. We know what's coming and we are doing our best to prepare for it.

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up?

Well Free Thinker, before we get all full of ourselves that we know "the truth", and to then start tending to matters of how to deal with those who don't know "the truth", can we at least first define what that truth even is?

And like are there many truths, or just one big Truth?

Me? I'm still in the process of trying to figure a lot of things out. :flower:

I think its more like a shift from unconscious evolution to conscious evolution. From being mostly emotional with weak critical thinking to having big data and actively trying to process it. In spiral dynamics its more like the shift into the yellow stage. THat means integrating the opposites and not thinking in black and white illusions of duality. That stage also has to do with systems thinking and developing the mind with big data like we all do. The 3 stages prior, blue, orange and green all have large significant portions of the population. We are waiting for the yellow stage to go from 3-5% to 10-20%, making a significant change on the planet.

But really I think its about consciously seeking the truth that is the shift from bouncing around like a pinball learning randomly from bumping into things. Another part of that shift point is realizing the system is very wrong and there are lies upon lies to reconsider to completely change your worldview and purpose in this life. So thinking of it as this kind of paradigm shift is probably better and will avoid the duality trick of asleep vs awake. That is more of the non integrated thinking that people fight about before the yellow stage in spiral dynamics.

[iota]

Well Free Thinker, before we get all full of ourselves that we know "the truth", and to then start tending to matters of how to deal with those who don't know "the truth", can we at least first define what that truth even is?



Well Gracy here’s a TRUTH

“before you go get full of yourself” is mocking and ridicule

it is disrespectful and It’s rude

A moderator (good one) would be looking out for rudeness to moderate it

NOT be the one doing it

Here’s another Truth

AS a moderator BASIC politeness and respect is EXPECTED of you

just fyi

sadly, too often, this has not been met ...

It has been "tolerated" under the guise, that FREE SPEECH is a highly valued concept here

and it is, for THAT all of us owe a debt of gratitude to Bill

BUT Free Thinker was exercising just that. She was (very gently, and respectfully) presenting TRUTH AS she understood it to be, and in the end, that is ALL any of us can ever do

when you come in and outright MOCK her expression, just because you can?

that not only DOES NOT promote FREE SPEECH >>> it INHIBITS it

FREE SPEECH is ALLOWANCE of expression of ideas

DERISION, RIDICULE, SARCASM and other derogatory interjections are not JUST disrespectful AND rude

~ they diminish an individual

and spin it any way you want, but it is basic ATTACK

again, NOT promotion of FREE SPEECH

an actual INHIBITOR

IN the pursuit OF Free Speech? this would be something to get rid of

SO that Free Speech MAY flow FREELY

withOUT concern of being made fun ... :facepalm:

i don't know what "rules" there are in BEING a moderator, but certainly treating and communicating with members in a respectful polite manner i would assume to be one

or more specifically, it should be AGAINST the "rules" TO disrespect, ridicule, communicate with derision and DIMINISH members

particularly when they have NOT been "offensive" by ANY stretch of the imagination but merely were attempting to honestly and authentically express this in their communication

you COULD have easily asked a question or expressed your view WITHOUT interjecting derision, and disrespect ..

THAT would be yet another TRUTH

at this point, if you want to "regulate" the expression of another

it might be more appropriate to begin with your own

[iota]

As the storm of the world continues in its chaotic, albeit beautiful transmutative maelstrom of light vs dark, love vs hate, good vs evil and so on, there are those (such as on this forum) who see the Truth for what it is, and fully and wholeheartedly accept it. We know and accept Love and Truth. We know what's coming and we are doing our best to prepare for it.

But what about those who reject the Truth? What becomes of them? Will they ever wake up? Will the Truth hit so hard and fast that everyone else will have no choice but to wake up and see the dark matrix that surrounds us? How will they deal with it? Will they deal with it? If so, how? Will they fight to resist it, going down kicking and screaming? Or will they too, choose to embrace the ideals of freedom and happiness as we do and join us in creating this new earthly paradigm of peace and love? Perhaps a little of both?

Obviously a lot of speculative questions here. No definitives wanted nor needed here. Just looking for other people's ideas and suggestions on what they feel and think might happen and how to best handle those that actively (and vehemently) reject the Truth that is all around us. Especially when those rejectees are one's own family members.

In any case, I do what I need to do to focus on and prepare myself. Keep myself calm, be educated/knowledgeable as much as possible, meditate, ground/center, stay mindful, practice awareness and alertness, read, read, read, detox, eat healthier, and do whatever other spiritual practices and make whatever lifestyle changes that I need to in order to overcome anything sent my way. Not always easy to do when one is surrounded by those who choose to remain deceived. But I know where I stand. I just hope the others realize what kind of world we're living in before it's too late. Or is there such a thing as "too late"? Is that the wrong way to think about this kind of thing? Or will we all eventually acknowledge the Truth of it all, some people who just take longer to wake up than others.

Thoughts?

dear Free Thinker

i completely understood your communication and loved your expression. the fact that you are pondering these things, demonstrates a CLEAR concern and empathy for others that i think, ITSELF acts like a healing balm on the tapestry of Life

i thank you

what i have come to believe is that we HAVE made a transition ALREADY

it seems we moved out of the STO/STS challenge that ALL of us faced and responded to in our own personal manner

and into one of LOVE vs WISDOM

and i'll leave it to you to surmise which is the one to strive for

and, if THAT IS the case, i'm finding that people here "graduated" either having demonstrated a DEFINITE choice and a bit of mastery in their intention to be "of service" or NOT

and that polarity seems to be what we are encountering in a CLEARER and more definitive manner than i ever remember encountering before

for me? it has come as a personal shock and it has resulted in an "adjustment" both in my perspective and response

BEFORE, i operated from my little happy, loving world where i just ASSUMED that everyone was a "good soul" and basically my brother and sister

and that THEY might not "know" this .. BUT I DID

so i accorded them the love and respect loving, magnificent beings i was just certain that they were deserved! even if they might temporarily not be in touch with that part of themselves

and it seemed to work .. by "shinning a light", so to speak into the "darkness"?

THAT doesn't seem to work "here", in the current paradigm that we are facing

HERE there is a PREDATORY, PARASITIC contamination in some that seems to actually get EMPOWERED by sweetness and love

almost like "sensing" weakness and "identifying" prey and moving in for the "kill"

to ALLOW continuance of THAT has destructive and negative repercussions

and, i believe, karmic repercussions as well

because ALLOWANCE of that results in ALLOWING them, ENABLING them, EMPOWERING them to "live another day" TO inflict harm on another

that is where WISDOM seems to be called forth from each of us

it is definitely an "adjustment" after practicing JUST Love for so very long

but the thing is:


we are ALWAYS responsible for BOTH what we DO and what we FAIL to do

that, at least is MY understanding of how things work

:flower:

[enfoldedblue]

This is something I wrote on a post somewhere else, but I believe it fits well here.. to me the real difference is that some people are wired/ have become wired in a way that they are capable of seeing enough beyond the illusion/programming to grasp that organized evil is likely in this dense reality, whereas others who don't have the same perspective think that the prospect of organized evil is absurd and that what we see in external reality is just fallible humans trying to do their best.

It seems to me that for most changing perspectives is an inside job that happens in divine timing of their own soul development. Everyday more and more people are grasping the bigger picture .... I believe this will continue unril there are not enough in collective to keep holding the reality dream stable and it will glitch and crack increasingly until it is completely exposed for the distorted storyline that humanity has outgrown. Its happening right now🌈🙏

Edit to add.. So I guess for me if we were to find the essence of what aspect of TRUTH is the key dividing point it would be whether evil is just spread randomly through society, or whether it is organized and persuing an agenda that promotes itself above the rest.

[Free Thinker]

I don't feel anger or irritation toward Gracy May, I already thanked her for making me realize how my initial words might have first come across. But I deeply appreciate the sentiment in how fiercely you are supporting me in my own unique expression of free speech. :) :sun: The "truth" is, the Truth is rather complicated - extremely complex in its beautiful and wondrous infinity of infinities and is constantly changing on many levels, both seen and unseen. We just have to go with the flow of where we feel guided to go as best we can.

As far as the whole Love vs. Wisdom - the two are not separate, they very much do co-exist together. One just has to decide for themselves which one is more appropriate in the matter at any given time. But they certainly do not exist in their own separate circles, they are very much a part of the Great Big Picture of Everything, and do not oppose one another in any way. As I said, it is an immensely complex topic and one that I am doing my utmost best to understand whenever/wherever/however I can.

Shining light on the darkness can be a very difficult thing, but the thoughts that keep being implanted in my head by the elite and/or other entities do make me wonder - things that seem to directly damn or screw themselves over infinite-fold makes me think they exist in a perpetual state of self-loathing and misery which would very much correlate with some of my other experiences in my life that I've had. To which I counter that by thinking and feeling loving thoughts and letting the Universe guide those wherever they need to go. Even if it's to the dark entities themselves. It's not constant, and I sometimes do find myself falling back on that anger and annoyance, or even just nonchalance or simple detachment from thinking/feeling anything, but I do my best to counter the awful thoughtforms which I know without a doubt are not mine, they are not in alignment with the rest of my thinking or what's really in my heart, by thinking loving and peaceful thoughts and carrying on in a harmonious way as much as I can. They seem to be very persistent with this self-loathing track they're on, and it's very revealing I have to say. Or I might simply think 'detach' and move on with what I was doing before. Even if I have to do it a thousand times a day, I do it.

Again, thank you very much for the fierceness of your replies, but I do feel and know that negativity breeds more negativity and is not the answer to anything. I feel she was simply responding back the best way she knew how, as was I. No one's perfect. But we do have the opportunity to continually better ourselves as much as we possibly can, which is what I am striving to do always, no matter what goes down.

In times like these, it is especially important to keep things civil - as to not do so is exactly what the shadow govt wants us to do - to turn on each other. Let's not ever do that, okay? Let's do the exact opposite. Unite and support one another throughout it all.

[iota]

I don't feel anger or irritation toward Gracy May, I already thanked her for making me realize how my initial words might have first come across. But I deeply appreciate the sentiment in how fiercely you are supporting me in my own unique expression of free speech. :) :sun: The "truth" is, the Truth is rather complicated - extremely complex in its beautiful and wondrous infinity of infinities and is constantly changing on many levels, both seen and unseen. We just have to go with the flow of where we feel guided to go as best we can.

As far as the whole Love vs. Wisdom - the two are not separate, they very much do co-exist together. One just has to decide for themselves which one is more appropriate in the matter at any given time. But they certainly do not exist in their own separate circles, they are very much a part of the Great Big Picture of Everything, and do not oppose one another in any way. As I said, it is an immensely complex topic and one that I am doing my utmost best to understand whenever/wherever/however I can.

Shining light on the darkness can be a very difficult thing, but the thoughts that keep being implanted in my head by the elite and/or other entities do make me wonder - things that seem to directly damn or screw themselves over infinite-fold makes me think they exist in a perpetual state of self-loathing and misery which would very much correlate with some of my other experiences in my life that I've had. To which I counter that by thinking and feeling loving thoughts and letting the Universe guide those wherever they need to go. Even if it's to the dark entities themselves. It's not constant, and I sometimes do find myself falling back on that anger and annoyance, or even just nonchalance or simple detachment from thinking/feeling anything, but I do my best to counter the awful thoughtforms which I know without a doubt are not mine, they are not in alignment with the rest of my thinking or what's really in my heart, by thinking loving and peaceful thoughts and carrying on in a harmonious way as much as I can. They seem to be very persistent with this self-loathing track they're on, and it's very revealing I have to say. Or I might simply think 'detach' and move on with what I was doing before. Even if I have to do it a thousand times a day, I do it.


dear Free Thinker

i knew you were not! :sun: i'm not holding any anger towards Gracy either. this is just part of an ongoing conversation with her on this VERY topic and my communications was now CLEAR and DIRECT. but CLEAR and DIRECT communication does NOT equate anger any more than not being sweet and sugary equate negativity

also how WE interpret and respond to another primarily affects US, we evolve or diminish from the exchange.

However, the Universe never "wastes"

as in ALL exchanges ALWAYS serve ALL parties ..

meaning that there are lessons inherent to BOTH Parties AND Observers of ANY given event.

BECAUSE of this NONE of the above are ever absolved of

RESPONSE-ABILITY

in what they are either participants in OR observers

so .. the fact that you processed this in a loving, peaceful, compassionate manner serves YOU ..

that has NOTHING to do with the other participant as far as ABSOLVING HER of ANY responsibility for HER actions OR intentions in the TEEEEENIEST of ways''

this is an important point because all too often people act and do without consideration of the impact their words or actions will have on another

and THAT is having a DIRECT impact on our very planet and the world we ALL inhabit

in fact, THAT is one of the points that has been brought up several times in this thread already and referenced possible NP's or another term for them OP's (Organic Portals) or what mainstream has now labeled Narcissistic personalities, because AS we mentioned, the RISE of "these" types certainly DOES appeared increased

at least to me, or maybe i didn't get out much before? :Angel:

in practical application it could go like this: (and just making up a situation on the fly)

INTENT to HARM from person A to person B

well .. let's say in THAT particular scenario, neither the karma nor lessons of person B called that forth, so seconds PRIOR, they move and are either UNAFFECTED or minimally so

the fact that this occurred?

in NO way absolves person A of the repercussions of the CHOICE made

if there were Observers?

and THEY FAILED to at least TRY to move the person out of the way of say the falling piano?

THEY are NOT absolved EITHER

when a situation is presented in OUR presence? is brought to OUR awareness? this occurs for ONLY one reason:

OUR response is called forth BY the Universe AND that or "lack of"noted"

irrespective of YOUR response? i AM response-able for mine

and when it happens in my presence? the only purpose of that? WAS for my response .. (silence btw is tantamount to silent consent, an implied agreement which would be completely inauthentic AND Untrue for me)

to the individual directed? it is possible that one in NO way calls that forth .. initiating inquiry as to any possible unhealed aspects, wounds, unresolved patterns presently or in the past? are great lines of inquiry to explore to make sure of that

:sun:

PS one last thing ...

we do not get stars :star: stars for HOW much abuse we are able to endure (and i want to communicate carefully and state AGAIN, i am speaking in general and NOT referring to anyone specifically right now)

but the purpose of life is NOT to "suffer" or get a PHD in that ...

and though that statement MIGHT seem so OBVIOUS, it really isn't

too many people ~ heck EVERYONE at
one time or another,
in one relationship or
in at least one situation or another

HAS put up with LACK of LOVE and/or DISRESPECT
CONTROL/DOMINATION paradigms

so it REALLY is NOT as 'obvious' as when read in black and white to NOT ALLOW that ..

it is ACTUALLY, not just quite a PREVALENT situation but the NORM

the exception WOULD be relationships and lives where people ARE FULLY empowered and have CLEAR boundaries that DISALLOW these expressions

if THAT were not so?

our very world would NOT be in the subjugated, disempowered, CONTROLLED state that it is

it would be actually IMPOSSIBLE to subjugate such people

our power can NEVER be taken FROM us

though we DO habitually and quite regularly relinquish it ..

THIS would be the reason to have these situations show up in our personal reality

we CANNOT be free and empowered in the world

while remaining ACCEPTING of oppressive actions and ALLOW
ING them to continue on a personal basis

THAT action and choice is actually, in fact, a VERY negative one

even if it seems nice

and we are currently experiencing the repercussion of such ALLOWANCE in a very CLEAR and DIRECT way in bewilderment of how this came to be?

HOW? indeed?

NEVER making a connection between INDIVIDUAL and COLLECTIVE experience

when the two, are in fact, INTIMATELY connected
and one DIRECTLY impacts the other

you seem to be a very beautiful soul .. i'm glad to know your loving vibrations are emanating on our planet

and, again, for that?

i thank you
:flower:

[iota]

As far as the whole Love vs. Wisdom - the two are not separate, they very much do co-exist together. One just has to decide for themselves which one is more appropriate in the matter at any given time. But they certainly do not exist in their own separate circles, they are very much a part of the Great Big Picture of Everything, and do not oppose one another in any way. As I said, it is an immensely complex topic and one that I am doing my utmost best to understand whenever/wherever/however I can.




as far as WISDOM and its current relationship TO Love?

i understand what you mean and how you would place it in the "circle of", i believe you stated. much like for ME?

TRUTH > LOVE > FREEDOM
(and of course, LIGHT)

ALL fall within the SAME parameter

that is actually not a concept i came up on my own, but something i espoused from A Course in Miracles which states that this is so.

in THIS instance, i was referring to something specifically

The the Hidden Hand TWO on which Wes Penre did a few articles on. it can be read in full here (https://wespenrevideos.com/2019/11/30/article-6-the-new-hidden-hand-thread-2018/)

QUOTE:

"EMT: We did just recently begin to experience the Great Harvest. However, comparatively minor Harvests occur more frequently.

It is not necessarily “evil” with which we will be dealing. There exists a positive polarization and a negative polarization for each density. In Third Density, the positive and negative polarizations were Love and Fear, respectively (service to others, service to self). In our current Fourth Density, the positive and negative polarizations are Wisdom (Light) and Love (service to the Creator / the All, service to others). I can expand on what this means if you ask me to.

EMT, which when questioned what that stood for? answered: Eracidni Murev Te means “To share in truth”) goes on to say:

"EMT: These are great questions, thank you.

In any density of experience, all polarities are present – “As Above, So Below.” The dominant polarities we are discussing here are the primary polarities through which spiritual work is done on a given density. In other words, many individuated souls have chosen to experience and learn within the illusion of duality comprised by Wisdom (Light) and Love. The current density of Earth is a creative medium through which they may do so. We still have the Free Will to work in and harmonize any polarity in any density, even though that may not be the primary archetype or intention of the specific density manifestation itself.

QUESTIONER: So if we choose service to the Creator/All, the positive polarization, we keep moving closer to the Creator up in the densities.


EMT: Precisely. "


https://wespenrevideos.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/the-new-hidden-hand-thread-2018.pdf

THAT was what i was referring to. Sorry for not being clearer or more specific and i apologize for taking it for granted that you would know

This information, may or may NOT be "true" but i personally, consider to be very possible BECAUSE of the continual encounter of these NP/Narcissist types that seem to have multiplied exponentially just "suddenly" to me

as ALWAYS, in considering ANY information? it is ESSENTIAL to only accept or adopt that which resonates personally and discard ALL that does not

:flower:

[iota]

This is something I wrote on a post somewhere else, but I believe it fits well here.. to me the real difference is that some people are wired/ have become wired in a way that they are capable of seeing enough beyond the illusion/programming to grasp that organized evil is likely in this dense reality, whereas others who don't have the same perspective think that the prospect of organized evil is absurd and that what we see in external reality is just fallible humans trying to do their best.

It seems to me that for most changing perspectives is an inside job that happens in divine timing of their own soul development. Everyday more and more people are grasping the bigger picture .... I believe this will continue unril there are not enough in collective to keep holding the reality dream stable and it will glitch and crack increasingly until it is completely exposed for the distorted storyline that humanity has outgrown. Its happening right now🌈🙏

Edit to add.. So I guess for me if we were to find the essence of what aspect of TRUTH is the key dividing point it would be whether evil is just spread randomly through society, or whether it is organized and persuing an agenda that promotes itself above the rest.

i too came to similar conclusion and wrote about it here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114561-There-may-be-three-different-kinds-of-people-on-Planet-Earth&p=1420739&viewfull=1#post1420739)

it seemed to resonate with many others as well

:flower:

PS i would have posted it here, but i feel i have reached the extent of what is appropriate for me to contribute at this point and i leave further discussion to everyone else now

please know i hold no attachment to agreement but merely share what i have learned on my own personal path and offer that for consideration to others

everyone has their own path and must be free to arrive at their own conclusions

[Free Thinker]

Thank you Iota for your kind and wise words. I deeply appreciate them. I already sent you a PM about this very recently. In any case, feel free to continue posting here as much as you like. I highly encourage you to do so. :)

If you want to. :heart:

[Delight]

What is the TRUTH?

This is the point of experience IMO... to uncover what is true in our tiny fractal of life. That is really all we own. Lots of us here KNOW there is something we are seeking that is literally the opposite of what we are observing. In my own little corner, my very favorite cat Tabby Tail is very ill. I have always tried to act on my belief that we are enmeshed in a Force that is life. My own body seems to heal and withstand stress quite well with a conection I make to "the Living God". But here is my sweet cat who is ill. What am I supposed (based on my understanding) to do. I send her healing energy and my faith but she is apparently dying.

I feel really crushed between seeing her body dwindling and yet wanting to have direct intervention that I do not need to control. Because I have operating beliefs, this is all happening around me. It means a lot to stay focused on what one FEELS is cherished and thinks is important despite what one sees. IMO we are learning how to take responsibility and stand firm as creators.

I pray constantly that I experience my connection to the FIELD and that this is the source of my education here. It is unfolding and I will change my mind perhaps about my choices. I will NOT put her to sleep because I do not think this is my right. I have given her medicine and special food and I am struggling personally to KNOW what this is supposed to reveal.

I take as true... that all I see is a reflection from me about what is IN ME but I am still in a muddle about how to change me or states or timelines and manifestations in my world. That is the work IMO of TRUTH. WE are responsible for our wrestling with TRUTH.

[Free Thinker]

I feel I've already covered what I needed/wanted to about the nature of Truth, however vast, elusive and infinite-fold it is on any level of existence, so I will not repeat that here, anymore than I already have that is.

I do want to say I pray and wish that your beloved cat gets better and that she fully recovers. Keep doing what you're doing and don't give up hope. I'm sure she is aware of your great love and support for her, and that is something I immensely respect and appreciate as well, being a huge animal lover myself. It may be hard, but there is meaning to it, and is something that pushes us to look beyond ourselves at the bigger picture that is unfolding all around us each and every single day.

At any rate, you are there for her and that is what truly matters in the end. Kudos to you on that. :thumbsup::heart:

[Delight]

I feel I've already covered what I needed/wanted to about the nature of Truth, however vast, elusive and infinite-fold it is on any level of existence, so I will not repeat that here, anymore than I already have that is.

I do want to say I pray and wish that your beloved cat gets better and that she fully recovers. Keep doing what you're doing and don't give up hope. I'm sure she is aware of your great love and support for her, and that is something I immensely respect and appreciate as well, being a huge animal lover myself. It may be hard, but there is meaning to it, and is something that pushes us to look beyond ourselves at the bigger picture that is unfolding all around us each and every single day.

At any rate, you are there for her and that is what truly matters in the end. Kudos to you on that. :thumbsup::heart:

Iota thanks again....

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/82/5f/e7/825fe7f79e0bb46eb9ebd15ee7a91dc6.jpg


From Iota: dear Delight .. i'm very sorry about Tabby Tail ... my thoughts and prayers for both of you! i'm sure she feels your love deeply and it comforts her tremendously. i saw this and thought of you ..


Thank you very much for the connection with me here. I feel so forlorn. But it makes me turn even more to my faith that the Living God is all around me. I am actually not worried about death but I just wanted her here with me. Tabby Tail left the planet over night. Last night I recognized that I do NOT understand anything at all really. So, I have been holding on for dear life to the insistance that there IS a Higher Source that holds everything.

I am turning over my Ignorance. It would have made me so happy if Tabby had healed. It was my wish that MAYBE I could share enough healing energy to vitalize her body. But despite the fact that it is really easy for me to heal each thing that shows up for me, I cannot communicate that ability on demand. I let go of wanting to be a healer.

I knew she would leave but she let me snuggle her and she purred. Her body was cooling and then she had enough and wanted to be alone. Then she left.

I am adding a story here...

Tabby Tail was born a feral kitty. her brother Stevie was puny and easy to catch and we did. But Tabby was tough. FOR 5 YEARS she never let me near her. She interacted with Stevie outside and let me feed her. Right now I just cannot remember much interaction.

Then once when it was getting cold, she hurt herself. She had a bum leg. I grabbed her and took her inside and for weeks she hid. Once in awhile she would get on the bed at night, once even under the covers.

THEN one evening I was at my laptop typing and she jumped onto the table and WANTED me to pet her. WHAAAAT that did was blow my mind. HOW did that happen?

She was the MOST snuggly cat with me ever after. If another person came around she hid. She never did like other people, she would cry and act as if she was being pursued by beasts just because others were in the house.

She climbed trees and I have a picture of her. Tabby Tail reaching for the stars. I imagined tonight that she is HUGE and is leaping among stars exploring.

[iota]

Iota thanks again....


From Iota: dear Delight .. i'm very sorry about Tabby Tail ... my thoughts and prayers for both of you! i'm sure she feels your love deeply and it comforts her tremendously. i saw this and thought of you ..


Thank you very much for the connection with me here. I feel so forlorn. But it makes me turn even more to my faith that the Living God is all around me. I am actually not worried about death but I just wanted her here with me. Tabby Tail left the planet over night. Last night I recognized that I do NOT understand anything at all really. So, I have been holding on for dear life to the insistance that there IS a Higher Source that holds everything.

I am turning over my Ignorance. It would have made me so happy if Tabby had healed. It was my wish that MAYBE I could share enough healing energy to vitalize her body. But despite the fact that it is really easy for me to heal each thing that shows up for me, I cannot communicate that ability on demand. I let go of wanting to be a healer.

I knew she would leave but she let me snuggle her and she purred. Her body was cooling and then she had enough and wanted to be alone. Then she left.

I am adding a story here...

Tabby Tail was born a feral kitty. her brother Stevie was puny and easy to catch and we did. But Tabby was tough. FOR 5 YEARS she never let me near her. She interacted with Stevie outside and let me feed her. Right now I just cannot remember much interaction.

Then once when it was getting cold, she hurt herself. She had a bum leg. I grabbed her and took her inside and for weeks she hid. Once in awhile she would get on the bed at night, once even under the covers.

THEN one evening I was at my laptop typing and she jumped onto the table and WANTED me to pet her. WHAAAAT that di was blow my mind. She was the MOST snuggly cat with me ever after. If another person came around she hid. She never did like other people, she would cry and act as if she was being pursued by beasts just because others were in the house.

She climbed trees and I have a picture of her. Tabby Tail reaching for the stars. I imagined tonight that she is HUGE and is leaping among stars exploring.

dear Delight!!

i am SOO very sorry!! no wonder you and Tabby Tail were in my heart ALL day ... and i kept finding memes with kitty GONE and i was like NO! her kitty is STILL here! but i guess i knew and didn't want to ...

Delight .. losing our furry babies is so hard because they are our babies in every sense of the word!! but you know that love? i believe LOVE to be eternal

and that neither height nor depth
nor space nor time
nor physicality

has the power to separate us from those that have taken up residence in our hearts! they LIVE there eternally


https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d6/07/c1/d607c1ae895350c1ae9b756b243658ec--sorry-for-your-loss-sympathy-quotes.jpg

and one day? she will meet you once again on a beautiful rainbow bridge! i just KNOW that it will be beautiful and filled with joy and love!!

right now i just want to say take care of your heart and allow it to express what it needs AS it needs .. my thoughts and prayers are with you even stronger now!! my heart hurts for you! and i send you love and gentle peace to surround you in a little bubble of grace!! .. :heart:

:bearhug::bearhug::bearhug:




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[Sue (Ayt)]

I feel I've already covered what I needed/wanted to about the nature of Truth, however vast, elusive and infinite-fold it is on any level of existence, so I will not repeat that here, anymore than I already have that is.

I do want to say I pray and wish that your beloved cat gets better and that she fully recovers. Keep doing what you're doing and don't give up hope. I'm sure she is aware of your great love and support for her, and that is something I immensely respect and appreciate as well, being a huge animal lover myself. It may be hard, but there is meaning to it, and is something that pushes us to look beyond ourselves at the bigger picture that is unfolding all around us each and every single day.

At any rate, you are there for her and that is what truly matters in the end. Kudos to you on that. :thumbsup::heart:

Iota thanks again....

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/82/5f/e7/825fe7f79e0bb46eb9ebd15ee7a91dc6.jpg


From Iota: dear Delight .. i'm very sorry about Tabby Tail ... my thoughts and prayers for both of you! i'm sure she feels your love deeply and it comforts her tremendously. i saw this and thought of you ..


Thank you very much for the connection with me here. I feel so forlorn. But it makes me turn even more to my faith that the Living God is all around me. I am actually not worried about death but I just wanted her here with me. Tabby Tail left the planet over night. Last night I recognized that I do NOT understand anything at all really. So, I have been holding on for dear life to the insistance that there IS a Higher Source that holds everything.

I am turning over my Ignorance. It would have made me so happy if Tabby had healed. It was my wish that MAYBE I could share enough healing energy to vitalize her body. But despite the fact that it is really easy for me to heal each thing that shows up for me, I cannot communicate that ability on demand. I let go of wanting to be a healer.

I knew she would leave but she let me snuggle her and she purred. Her body was cooling and then she had enough and wanted to be alone. Then she left.

I am adding a story here...

Tabby Tail was born a feral kitty. her brother Stevie was puny and easy to catch and we did. But Tabby was tough. FOR 5 YEARS she never let me near her. She interacted with Stevie outside and let me feed her. Right now I just cannot remember much interaction.

Then once when it was getting cold, she hurt herself. She had a bum leg. I grabbed her and took her inside and for weeks she hid. Once in awhile she would get on the bed at night, once even under the covers.

THEN one evening I was at my laptop typing and she jumped onto the table and WANTED me to pet her. WHAAAAT that did was blow my mind. HOW did that happen?

She was the MOST snuggly cat with me ever after. If another person came around she hid. She never did like other people, she would cry and act as if she was being pursued by beasts just because others were in the house.

She climbed trees and I have a picture of her. Tabby Tail reaching for the stars. I imagined tonight that she is HUGE and is leaping among stars exploring.

Just some {{HUG-THOUGHTS}} sent your way, Delight.
:bearhug:

[Delight]

Thanks Sue and Iota and all who might read this... I LOVE the idea of the Rainbow Bridge. Actually I imagine it quite a bit connecting us to heaven. I have NO CLUE about the TRUTH of life and death but I just cannot believe that those whom we love are forever separated. That MUST be true IMO.

http://marilynswayhomegarden.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/rainbow-bridge-1.jpg

[Ratszinger]

The truth is we are dealing with the most sinister monsters of human beings that ever walked the earth! They see everyone as beneath them and simply as tools! They use them, us as tools until we are no longer of any use for their purposes, or until we are no longer politically or diplomatically controllable, or when we simply know too much, are no longer useful and then are disposed of! I mean after all we're just tools and when a tool no longer works or fits the job because better more capable tools are available well, the old tool is let go. Granted if you have a wrench that no longer can turn a nut it has to go but people are not tools no matter how the elite masters see us and use us. I say this in all seriousness because they project a lot and for some odd reason they have to be honest and tell what they are about to do! So will it surprise anyone at all if Jeff Bezos gets on that rocket for the ride of his life and it goes boom? Just a tool right? Then we'll know right?

[iota]

i found a visitor message on TRUTH i found well worth the read .. since it was up for public view? i share it now with you:


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by K626"


"It is said that truth is a City that exists somewhere within the vast desert, others have remarked that it was once found by Tibetan monks beyond the great mountains of the Himalaya shrouded in the mysteries of time and beyond any known language, that it was desolate and its faded marble facades was inhabited by apes. Only a few thousand years ago it was said that a great city of wonder and revelation fell into the sea and took with it the many fundamental truths of man and his history, stories from before the beginning when paintings in caves were stunning in their prophetic accuracy.

Later others laid claim to the secret knowledge that truth was a journey, the journey of the soul, that truth could only be experienced in one moment such was its fiery power, such was its incandescence. Its shinning.

Philosophers in more recent times have commented on the ability of truth to transcend the dualities of language and in fact be erased by the prison of such a common currency as the grunts and gurgles of the former apes spat forth a trail of confusion. That truth and language were not friends but infact enemies and that language itself was a man made prison one that was built to capture truth, but we know that too was unsucessful and led to great misconceptions and disasters. Speaking is a way of knowing something of the self...The voice, but we know this too is not the self and there is something of the magic within the voice, it is of the other place. It is not wholly us.

It is said that the spirit of the Nordics and the Germanics came as a whisper from the forest, that the spirit of the semites came from the vast and dry desert, that the spirit of the Indus people came from the big river and the mountain water, that the spirit of the Chinese and Asiatic tribes came form the silence of the big land, that the spirit of the South American tribes came from the great snake and many other shifting truths were laid down, for in the absence of truth another beauty comes into view and we are the makers of such a beauty.

There need not be fear in such a beauty for the search for truth is often marked with moments of great beauty and also dark legend and if that is legend and legend is a part truth, we understand that we are the creators of it.

Then it is said that the spirit found a man in the desert who was searching for the truth and laid upon him a great mercy :a great and forgiving heart and said unto him that truth resides not in a great city but waits for us to make a place within....


love

K

[Satori]

Your post reminded me of this:

“Not knowing what truth is, people seek it far away. They are like he who in the midst of water, cries out in thirst so imploringly.”

I don’t recall who to attribute that quote to.