Do you think there is a hell dimension....

[mindbend8r]

Where certain people can go when yhey die, if so is it eternal

[Open Minded Dude]

Where certain people can go when yhey die, if so is it eternal

Some go to lower Astral planes to work out their 'issues' and traumas. These are also kind of hells, some earth-like, some different and more dream-like.

No it is not eternal. They are being assisted from the 'other side' and also from 'retrievers' from this side. I did some of this work myself occasionally and know some astral projectors who do it even better than me.

[ExomatrixTV]

Imagine whatever you believe manifests (like a mirror) ... if you believe there is "nothing" after you die ... you are allowed (after you die) to experience nothingness until you are fed up with that ... but if you do not know you are tested you may think it is a hell staying aware in nothingness ;) must be creepy


When you die and you can not forgive yourself ... that energy will manifest one way or the other ... maybe that will become your own hell ... to learn from?

cheers,
John

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Remote Viewing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqQiUAQwNyM) "BASHAR THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL": Time Cross - Farsight

[Mercedes]

It's hard to say from this side of our dimension. And the information we get from the ones that communicate with the ones that have left is also difficult to discern since it comes as their (The ones that are "dead") perception of what they are experiencing in that specific dimension they are in now and the probabilities they are also being made to believe as true by who knows who. I once thought that once we got to being free from this physicality we were in a complete state of knowledge, but now, I am doubtful and so I want to know more. Has anybody read this book? It's kind of interesting-annoying-long-and I need to read it again. It states that the creator of this material universe is a rebellious god that became self sufficient and decided to create his own kind of universe separate from the god-spirit-source. And that the time is coming that this material universe will be destroyed and all the archetypes of life on earth will be returned to god-spirit-source. I can't seem to find the page I downloaded the book from. The book is

CAN YOU STAND THE TRUTH? THE CHRONICLE OF MAN'S IMPRISONMENT By Angeliki Anagnostou-Kalogera

[Satori]

No one knows. There are only beliefs. Don’t worry about. Just be here now and live your life on this plane of existence.

[ExomatrixTV]

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Have you heard of Bashar’s 5 Universal Laws yet?

If you’ve been following my blog or page for awhile you may already be aware that I am a big fan of Bashar (http://www.bashar.org/). Bashar is an entity channelled by a man named Darryl Anka. Regardless of whether or not you believe in channelling or “entities” like this, Bashar has lots of useful insight on the nature of reality!

One of my favourite nuggets I have learned from Bashar is what he calls “The 5 Universal Laws.” So, today, I’d like to pass this nugget along to you.

The 5 Universal Laws are the fundamental laws that create and build our reality. Understanding these laws can provide a great deal of use and comfort during your work as a conscious creator. I hope you enjoy learning about them as much as I have!

Universal Law #1
“You exist…you always have and you always will. You are eternal.”
In other words, your fundamental nature is that of existence (rather than that of non-existence). You are a part of existence, therefore you are eternal, just like everything else. Existence is eternal, and since you exist, you are eternal as well!

Understanding this Universal law, I’ve found, is quite relieving. There is no need to fear your death or the idea of your non-existence, as you are eternal. It never ends, you keep on going and you keep on expanding.

So, if things aren’t going the way you’d “like” for them to, it’s ok! You have an eternity to figure everything out. Enjoy the ride!

Universal Law #2
“Everything is here and now.”
We are experiencing our consciousness through a created filter of time and space. However, this filter is simply a creation of ours that allows us to experience expansion in a linear fashion.

In “reality” everything exists in one place (here) and at one time (now). In addition, you only ever exist in this here and now moment.

Understanding this Universal law has been helpful to me, as it has helped me focus on the only thing that matters: NOW (without getting too caught up in what “was” or what “will be”).

Now is the only place you will ever be, and now is where 100% of your power is. Focus your attention here and now.

Universal Law #3
“The One is the All and the All is the One.”
Many people believe they are separate from the whole of the Universe. The entire Universe, it seems at times, is a bunch of stuff outside of “me.”

Other people, other worlds, god, spirits, etc, under this definition, feel like they are “outside” of us.

However, you ARE the entirety of existence functioning as YOU. I am the entirety of existence functioning as ME.

Understanding this Universal law has helped me in understanding that everyone I meet (here and beyond) is just ME from a different perspective. You are the me having the “you” experience, and I am the you having the “me” experience.
This is useful because it helps you understand that everyone is in this with you. We are all of the same thing, we all work together, we all need each other and rely on each other.

This fundamental law has made a massive improvement on the way I relate to other people, and to the divine.

Universal Law #4
“What you put out is what you get back.”
As a teacher of the Law of Attraction, I suppose you could say my predominant focus on this website is Universal Law #4.

You are creating simply by getting back what you are putting out. If you are sad, reality matches you with “sad” scenarios and phenomenon in your reality. If you are happy, reality matches you with a “happy” reality.

Additionally, if you spend 90% of your time thinking about and focusing on your business, your business will take up approximately 90% of your life. If instead, you spend 90% of your time focused on your family, family will take up the bulk of your reality.

Further, if you judge others, they will judge you back. If you love others, they will love you back.

Call it karma, the Law of Attraction or Universal Law #4, there is no escaping the fact that what you put out is what you get back.

Universal Law #5
“Everything changes except for the first four…”
This final law describes the ever-changing nature of reality. No matter what we do, we are incapable of stopping change.

Different faces, different places, different events, beliefs and ideas. Reality is constantly in flux and it is constantly expanding.

What we knew 50 years ago in many ways is highly irrelevant and inaccurate compared to what we understand today. Old information and technology is continuously revamped, improved and replaced.

Understanding this Universal law has been helpful to me, as it has helped me detach more from the idea of things needing to be constant or stable. It’s helped me move forward when things have changed, where in years past I would cling to what was.
If everything changes, and change is inevitable, you might as well go with the flow and enjoy the journey.

Just know that even though everything will change, the first four laws will remain constant no matter where you leap to next. In this way, you always have a map and you will always know what to do, no matter where the journey may lead you!


Source (https://raiseyourvibrationtoday.com/2018/02/28/understanding-bashars-5-universal-laws/)



Remote Viewing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqQiUAQwNyM) "BASHAR THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL": Time Cross - Farsight

[Rawhide68]

Dear mindbend8r, you have to look(feel) in your heart for the truth, not the brain.
And that hurts!, that's why we have this forum.

:happy dog:

[ExomatrixTV]

Dear mindbend8r, you have to look(feel) in your heart for the truth, not the brain.
And that hurts!, that's why we have this forum.

:happy dog:


Indeed ... having only "mental constructs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder)" of reality and you become a slave to the mind having only "mental constructs in to infinity ... is my definition of a hell dimension

[Bluegreen]

It is not hard at all to look around and see those who have made their own dimensions their own hell. Ask any junkie, or your neighbor who always seems to have a problem with some thing or some one. Assuming there is another side, it is not a stretch to imagine one is capable of the same thing, as one may or may not be wiser for the wear.

[Mashika]

Karma is a bit misunderstood, this is a bit how it actually was supposed to work:

- You live, make choices, some good for you, some bad for you
- Every choice affects someone else in several ways
- Some in good ways, some in bad ways, (some of the choices good for your, affect in a bad way other people, and so on)

Eventually you die

You spend a lot of time reviewing and learning from your choices, it hits you back with all the power of wisdom, how your choices affected the life around you. Including the ones you said "this is good for me" while ignoring how bad it would affect someone else.. Which is what i think most people interpret as "karma", even if it's only a partial way to look at it, a simplified version of it i guess

Even your good choices are karma as well, in the end. Nothing is "good or bad", i think it was said here on this thread, and that's very true. Karma is not associated with "do bad things and they'll come back to you" no. "Do" and karma will follow, on your next iteration, you will know better, maybe..

Karma is a concept that has been misunderstood, there's no black and white view to it, it's a 'state of being', and while you have not escaped it, karma exists, for as long as you remain on that state. I know probably this doesn't make much sense in ways, hard to explain, but is not a "do bad and karma comes to you", even if you are a perfect example of being good and pure, karma will be there for you as well

I think i repeated myself, it's very hard to explain these things properly

[oz93666]

According to the best source we have , dying is not as strait forward as we might hope .. Ideally we see those from the light who are always sent to bring us home to be reunited with soul family members we'd forgotten we even had ...Ideally we return strait to the light to wallow in bliss and love for a while before another incarnation ... But , we are informed one third of all souls do not make it . They become "Earth bound spirits " ... trapped in the lower astral , usually tormented by evil spirits , the same spirits who were attached to them in life , and they continue to suck psychic energy for their sustenance... The difference being the soul is now in their domain and the torment is much more noticeable , where as in physical life their reach is limited ...

This idea of being stuck in limbo is not unique to KM's work , Lobsang Rampa tells us that a great deal of time is spent by Tibetan Monks rescuing these lost souls ... Astral travelers like Pane Andov confirm this concept true ... Ghost busters like Derek Achora and Colin Fry when clearing hauntings have to explain to the soul , they are dead , and should move on to the light ... and in medieval times wealthy people paid monks to pray for their deliverance before they actually died ...

So you do not want to be stuck in limbo! It is the closest thing to hell there is , often tumbling for many years being tormented...

Luckily there are simple measures you can take to ensure a safe transition... This should occur naturally , but if the person is an atheists and believes nothing comes after death , then he will manifest a very close approximation , he will tumble in nothingness (but the dark spirits will be there) .... If the person is a Christian and believes he's sinned and is going to hell then he may become Earth bound .. Also if death is particularly nasty and traumatic , or if it comes after a long debilitating illness the persons vibration will not be high enough to see the callers from the light who always come...

Prayer (from humans alive on Earth) is powerful enough to help a soul into the light , ghost busters and monks have figured this out .. So you can Pray now for your safe deliverance when you die , and Pray for the safe deliverance of loved ones who have already died , or are still alive ...

For more details check out the channelings here .. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg1...YGbkS3Q/videos
The first question always asked in these channelings is "did you make it to the light " , and the subject often goes into details about this .

[Mike Gorman]

The idea of an Underworld persists, but also the idea of the wicked people being punished for their misdeeds and their complete indifference to the plight of others. If we accept that people cannot help the way they are, for example an individual who manifests Psychopathy, can they 'help' being this way, are they judged to the same measure as the person who develops into a 'Saint', a holy person who also cannot 'help' being the way they are? If we accept that Crime is largely history and geography combined with chance and circumstance, then who is our judge?
The concept of 'Free will' underpins all ideas of crime, even if you are psychopathic, someone who cannot feel a connection, who is unable to grasp the value of other people you still have the free will to decide if you will do harm.
Some mental illnesses can have 'Hellish' qualities, where the individual is tortured by incessant thoughts and compulsions that are uncontrollable, for some people living becomes Hell.
You asked for an opinion regarding the 'Afterlife':
God, whatever this original creative Monad actually 'is', would not compel his creation to suffer for being a creation, in terms of universal morality this does not make any sense at all! None of us asked to exist.

[palehorse]

To answer the OP question, I would say anyone claiming to know God, I personally would stay far away from this person, the answer is: NOBODY knows.
Buddha himself when asked about God said (not with the same words, pardon me) he would not worry trying to find God, there is more important things to do in this life, like learn how to control suffering and I fully agree with that.

At a human level as we all are, how can we expect to know things at a God level? Hold your horses folks we are not there yet! :)

[scotslad]

some would argue that there is a hell dimension we goto when we are alive.

If, according to some, that we and everything on earth is a holographic projection, and if on occasion when fear, guilt etc lowers our resonance and frequency, our thought projections can be quite grim.

Situations, places and even people can affect the way we think, and our thoughts when created do exist - they are created, but on what realm or plane of existance, i am not sure.

I'm more interested in NOT going to hell.

I subscribe to the the Thank, Think, Allow & Accept (T2A2) model to help us lead an eternal positive existance...

THANK - Give thanks and be grateful for the painful lessons we've had - they're just that - lessons & by being grateful we raise our own vibe from a state of love

THINK - Focus on your next positive thought creation - manifest and draw to you the reality you WANT not dwell and stay at the low frequency negativity reality you are in.

ALLOW - We dont know how the UNIVERSE will conjour it up, but have faith & ALLLOW it to do so - raise your vibration and match it with positive manifestations that are coming as a result of us choosing to create them.

ACCEPT - Accept that we are the universe, accept & dont question what happens next for our ego and human projection of our self simply cannot 2nd guess how it works or what it will produce - another problem. Stop Doubting (another negative vibe lowering concept) - do not question what happens next - stay positive and look forward to it :)

..after all, it's in our BEST interest to allow and permit us to grow.

If a "HELL" dimension exists then it is only because we have created and co-created it by thinking, talking and adding deep, low negative emotional attachments to it to solidify our beliefs in it and confirming it with our own limited 5 senses.

I prefer the idea of heaven on earth, jut got to get a few more souls to connect and co-create the positive place we all want to co-exist in. As for dying, we simply return here I think until we learn from the lessons we have agreed to endure, but forget about as soon as we are incarnated ;)

One thing's for sure, it's one hell of a ride ;)

[Gwin Ru]

...

... two threads worth consulting to help with answering that question:


Swedenborg's Quest For Insight (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66264-Swedenborg-s-Quest-For-Insight)



Jerry Marzinsky, Mental Health Counselor: "Voices are Entities" 1/2 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99433-Jerry-Marzinsky-Mental-Health-Counselor-Voices-are-Entities-1-2)

[Sunny-side-up]

Well !
There are those here and now that try to make this great reality a version of hell.
Best thing to concentrate on is, knowing who they are and then trying to keep this reality a heavenly place.

[Merkaba360]

You can see the Cosmic Serpent on Salvia. Everything is a moving fractal that looks much like a snake when it moves. Since it creates and destroys, some represent it as a dragon that burns things down. Since holograms are fractals, holograms can literally create anything. So, of course it can create 'hells', since we already have small hells within our realm.

My friend was astrally travelling once. His guide stripped him of layers of "body" to take him to see a blue fire and brimstone kind of place. One has to shed denser layers of ourself so that we don't get stuck there or sucked in. I've heard of another kind of hell where u are peering out thru a person you can not control. And you have to experience it as that person goes around doing horrible things to other people. Totally helpless kind of experience. So anything that sucks is a kind of hell.

Obviously the cosmic serpent fractal is always moving/shifting/slithering/sliding, so the light show can never stay terrible forever. Extremely harsh experiences just alter our consciousness anyway and could activate blissful energy within. In other words, very strong emotions dislodges the assemblage point and our holographic persception will vastly change. The ego dissolves pretty fast (fast karmic burn off? ) and you can shift to 3rd person or sort of dissolve into the sea. No ego, then nobody to suffer.

[Eagle Eye]

You may speak it in modern terms, but the content will remain the same.

Heaven and Hell has been created by God and will exist forever.

The most famous inhabitant in there, will be Satan (the fallen one), who is already destined to go there after the Day of Judgement. Satan is the greatest enemy of mankind and has manipulated humans since the creation of Adam. He has created a hierarchy of manipulation in this world and has mislead most of creation, he wants to take as many as he can to his final destination.

I like to conclude it with this quote "it's not yet the end of the world, but we can see it from here"

[ExomatrixTV]

Heaven and Hell has been created by God and will exist forever.


Do you know that because you were there ... or did some one else claim to know (assume) that? ... if so ... how are you so sure yourself?

[TomKat]

The only hell I've visited in lucid dreams is a city scape of prostitutes and junkies and various other street life. Some low income neighbourhoods on this side have that feel to them, an oppressive darkness even on a sunny day.

[Eagle Eye]

Heaven and Hell has been created by God and will exist forever.


Do you know that because you were there ... or did some one else claim to know (assume) that? ... if so ... how are you so sure yourself?

Have I seen it? No
Have I experience it? Maybe a glimpse
God does not reveal part of the unseen world, to a person or masses until it's the final day for them. Mostly is based on signs, that's the way to find the truth in scriptures and to find God. That's the test. If things will become obvious for all, then it will be the final day and the test is over.

I know that this truthseeking forum is based on clear proofs and it's the safest thing to create a belief based on evidences, but when we speak about God and what He has revealed in scriptures, things change.

[Mashika]

God does not reveal part of the unseen to a person or masses until it's the final day for them. Mostly is based on signs, that's the way to find the truth in scriptures and to find God.

Do you understand that this is emotional, mental conditioning?

You can't prove the book is right, by quoting or referencing the same book...

[Eagle Eye]

God does not reveal part of the unseen to a person or masses until it's the final day for them. Mostly is based on signs, that's the way to find the truth in scriptures and to find God.

Do you understand that this is emotional, mental conditioning?

You can't prove the book is right, by quoting or referencing the same book...

I am speaking from what I have come to conclusions. It's an individual task to find out the truth about that.

[Mashika]

The best way to learn about it is to step away from it for a year or two, then look at it from your knew perspective, based on what you have learned once you did not had any attachment to that understanding you had before

If your belief was certain, you won't find any difficulty in returning, if you find that life somehow is different, then you may ask "why"

It is your soul that is in play there, you know? So take good care of it, make sure

Go into a hiatus, and don't think or take "the book" with you, it will mess and compromise the experiment. We are eternal souls, if you think taking a year of could lead you the wrong path, then it's not as solid a learning and path as you thought it was






God does not reveal part of the unseen to a person or masses until it's the final day for them. Mostly is based on signs, that's the way to find the truth in scriptures and to find God.

Do you understand that this is emotional, mental conditioning?

You can't prove the book is right, by quoting or referencing the same book...

I am speaking from what I have come to conclusions. It's an individual task to find out the truth about that.

[Eagle Eye]

The best way to learn about it is to step away from it for a year or two, then look at it from your knew perspective, based on what you have learned once you did not had any attachment to that understanding you had before

If your belief was certain, you won't find any difficulty in returning, if you find that life somehow is different, then you may ask "why"

It is your soul that is in play there, you know? So take good care of it, make sure

Go into a hiatus, and don't think or take "the book" with you, it will mess and compromise the experiment. We are eternal souls, if you think taking a year of could lead you the wrong path, then it's not as solid a learning and path as you thought it was

From that advice it means that you have read carefully the scriptures, you know what is in there and you have dismiss it.

[Mashika]

I did read it all, i did not dismiss it, i just learned there was more to it than what any person on this planet can tell you, or force you to follow

You need to step away from *everything* any human could possibly tell you, and then look at things from far away, then you may understand

Even Jesus did that, for a reason as well




The best way to learn about it is to step away from it for a year or two, then look at it from your knew perspective, based on what you have learned once you did not had any attachment to that understanding you had before

If your belief was certain, you won't find any difficulty in returning, if you find that life somehow is different, then you may ask "why"

It is your soul that is in play there, you know? So take good care of it, make sure

Go into a hiatus, and don't think or take "the book" with you, it will mess and compromise the experiment. We are eternal souls, if you think taking a year of could lead you the wrong path, then it's not as solid a learning and path as you thought it was

From that advice it means that you have read carefully the scriptures, you know what is in there and you have dismiss it.

[Mashika]

If you don't understand why really Jesus "went into the desert", then you don't understand

[Eagle Eye]

Guidance will come in different ways and each one of us has a different path in this life. Speaking about revelations (Torah, Gospel, Quran) is a long discussion and still cannot convince anyone about the truth in there, you will have to find it by youself.

[Mashika]

Guidance will come in different ways and each one of us has a different path in this life. Speaking about revelations (Torah, Gospel, Quran) is a long discussion and still cannot convince anyone about the truth in there, you will have to find it by youself.

So that's why i said "don't take the book" :)

If you use the book, to prove the book is correct, then you have nothing...

You referenced the book to prove the word was truth, it's not the way



Speaking about revelations (Torah, Gospel, Quran) is a long discussion and still cannot convince anyone about the truth in there, you will have to find it by youself

You don't have a task to do that, no one does, and in any case, again, it's a personal thing, following the religion is mostly following the interpretation of that religion by someone else, not your personal experience at all, ever.

[Suzi E]

I don't know if heaven or hell exist but I do believe that if you have committed terrible crimes ie child rapists/murderers etc then you will not be going to a good place when you die. I don't know if ' God ' will judge you or the ' Universe. '
I can only say that in my 30's when my Grand-Parents died I was terribly upset and went to see lots of mediums/clairvoyants, really I think to make sure that they were okay wherever they had gone to. Each one knew nothing about me or why I was there but I was amazed that every time I visited they got my Grand-Parents names' correct, the month of their birthdays etc and I was able to ask questions and receive answers. For example my Grand-Mother had left me a solid gold watch in her will and I wore it with pride. It went missing and I turned the house upside down looking for it. I asked the medium to ask where the watch was. The reply was underneath the middle seat cushion on the couch. I swear I had had all those cushions off the couch that very morning and the watch wasn't there. However, when I returned home and lifted up the cushion - there it was !! I was so relieved.
The medium told me that my Grand-Parents were with their families and my Aunt who had all died. That they had gone into a type of convalescent home first to repair the damage to their bodies before they were reunited in a warm place where everyone was happy and there was much love and joy.
She told me that they were always by my side and looking over me and my children. She gave me an example of which she would never have known about. Myself, my Father and my children were involved in a horrific accident driving in snow on a motorway in Scotland. How we all walked away from the accident unscathed although the car was a write off was unbelievable. The medium gave me details about the accident and the fact that I had packed away the children's colouring pencils in a tin and put them in the boot, She told me that it was my Grand-mother who had influenced me to do this as she knew the tin and pencils would have injured us. To be honest it was mindblowing.
I haven't been to see a medium since then as I am at peace knowing that they are all in a good place and I truly believe that when my time comes they will be waiting for me.

[Mashika]

I firmly believe you, please allow me to share a personal experience and you'll see why <3

Some time after my grand father passed, i was very hurt, i wanted to kill myself, i completely lost any meaning in life and did not care for anything

Then one day, i was asleep around noon or so, and i suddenly had a weird feeling of "falling out of my body", like a bump or some sort of getting pushed very strong but not in a hurting way

I opened my eyes and i was on a small street and there was a house with an open door, i went inside and there i saw my grand parents! They were younger than at the time they passed, but still old enough that they looked like i remembered them

I remember saying "grandma you look very young!" and she said "I do?" and started laughing like a little girl, it was crazy emotional and i tried to run and embrace them but they did not allow me

The this happened, i saw there was another room and there were noises like people chatting and laughing, having a great time back there, i tried to walk there to see who they were and my grand father stood on the door and say "you can't go there *yet*" And i was asking "why?" but he said, "you need to go back now", in a very firm but gentle way, he walked me to the street and say "go back, we'll be here when you come back" or something on those lines

I was crying in terrible sadness that i had to leave, but as soon as i walked outside that house, i felt a very pure feeling i can only describe as "iridescent", it was like a tremendous light and pure emotion, i was perfectly happy

Then i felt like i was pushed again and kind of like a very cristaline "water flowing" sense, then i woke up on my bed

I stood up, and i could not feel the floor, it was like i was floating, i could sense my body as if i did not fit on it, it was like my body was very small and i could feel trapped on it, i walked around and i did not feel my weight at all, i was kind of "watching myself from far away". I don't know if that makes any sense, but i felt like i was managing a puppet that looked like me, and i had to think about how to move my legs and arms, as if i wasn't inside me

That happened lots of years ago, i never completely got out of it. I just think that they are living there in an amazing beautiful little town, along with their parents and everyone else they cared and came before us, and that some day i may be able to reach them and be there, on that same party they had.

I believe your grand parents are in a similar place, 100%




I don't know if heaven or hell exist but I do believe that if you have committed terrible crimes ie child rapists/murderers etc then you will not be going to a good place when you die. I don't know if ' God ' will judge you or the ' Universe. '
I can only say that in my 30's when my Grand-Parents died I was terribly upset and went to see lots of mediums/clairvoyants, really I think to make sure that they were okay wherever they had gone to. Each one knew nothing about me or why I was there but I was amazed that every time I visited they got my Grand-Parents names' correct, the month of their birthdays etc and I was able to ask questions and receive answers. For example my Grand-Mother had left me a solid gold watch in her will and I wore it with pride. It went missing and I turned the house upside down looking for it. I asked the medium to ask where the watch was. The reply was underneath the middle seat cushion on the couch. I swear I had had all those cushions off the couch that very morning and the watch wasn't there. However, when I returned home and lifted up the cushion - there it was !! I was so relieved.
The medium told me that my Grand-Parents were with their families and my Aunt who had all died. That they had gone into a type of convalescent home first to repair the damage to their bodies before they were reunited in a warm place where everyone was happy and there was much love and joy.
She told me that they were always by my side and looking over me and my children. She gave me an example of which she would never have known about. Myself, my Father and my children were involved in a horrific accident driving in snow on a motorway in Scotland. How we all walked away from the accident unscathed although the car was a write off was unbelievable. The medium gave me details about the accident and the fact that I had packed away the children's colouring pencils in a tin and put them in the boot, She told me that it was my Grand-mother who had influenced me to do this as she knew the tin and pencils would have injured us. To be honest it was mindblowing.
I haven't been to see a medium since then as I am at peace knowing that they are all in a good place and I truly believe that when my time comes they will be waiting for me.

[Jim_Duyer]

Reincarnation believer raising his hand here. With some going up the ladder, and others down. Nothing from energy is lost or wasted - but sometimes the conversion of it escapes our immediate knowledge or attention.

[ExomatrixTV]

in my view/perspectives:

Prime Creator (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115632-Spirituality-in-its-essence....&p=1439534&viewfull=1#post1439534) is way too big & beyond any human made (or alien made) religions.

... and anyone using a label to describe the indescribable (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115632-Spirituality-in-its-essence....&p=1439534&viewfull=1#post1439534) is limiting it with his or her projected perceptions

All what is written is done by humans ... and guess what happened 325 AD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea) ? ... Who decided what should be in the Bible or not ... what influence was there at play that most have overlooked?

David Icke said once: I saw T-shirt once stating: "Jesus save us from your followers"


very similar to this quote:

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi


cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
July 12th, 2021

[thepainterdoug]

yes. its in washington dc

[Mashika]

yes. its in washington dc


I don't want to get reprimanded, but... LMFAO!

[shaberon]

You can see the Cosmic Serpent on Salvia. Everything is a moving fractal that looks much like a snake when it moves.

If I can see this more or less at will, am I in a position to say it is "more real" than mundane or terrestrial light and form?


I would agree there is a hell realm, although I am not in favor of the term "dimension". If there is an unearthly one made of different kinds of light, this is Hellfire, which, I suppose, is the missing "crux" of Eliphas Levi's Baphomet, or alchemy, or astrology, etc., something amoral which just creates monsters as if a mirror according to what you make in it. Make something better, and, voila, it will do healing or things some people call miracles.

[prc]

No one died and came back to tell us about. No one knows for sure. But I would advise to look for what psich mediuns like Edgar Cacey or Dr. Monroe from Monroe Institute said about this topic. There is a sentence by ALdous Huxley: " - Maybe Earth is the Hell of another planet ". Kind Regards.

[Delight]

something amoral which just creates monsters as if a mirror according to what you make in it. Make something better, and, voila, it will do healing or things some people call miracles.

Yes, It (something that creates) is amoral in that it responds to what is imprinted. It just seems so clear to me that this condition of polarity and duality is a context of an INCOMPASSING Omni present, omni potent, omniscient AND personally relating field. What we offer to the field we turn into our perceived experience by focus, intent, FEELING and a will/allowing open-ness to the working of the principles. It seems so obvious to me that principles can have any number of varied contents manifested from the apriori "truth".

Frederick Dodson talks about the metaphor of bridge building. The context and appearance may be so varied but if the "laws" of how a bridge is made are not known and adhered to, the bridge will fail. These principles are beyond beliefs.

IMO hell is ignorance of the truth. It leads to all kinds of consequences to be ignorant. Frederick Dodson also says that we are working at the unseen level where we imagine some "thing", then we have a sharp focus on this "thing". THEN whatever it is we imagined is manifested. The observation leads to continued imagination and this "thing" just becomes ever more real to us. There could be monsters. There may be Hell> OR there may be angels and a personal slice of heaven AND every mixed up condition in between here in this world where we imagine what is.

Frederick Dodson teaches reality creation. This reality is OUR creation and IMO a fast track of learning is here and now. This is working for me today. I AM in the flow of GOOD and that IS what I experience. If we do create hell, that is never permanent. It is all so much simpler that we dared wish. Just FEEL the Good and be with the good and then you will see it. Hell is long gone.

Sharing this here because IMO Frederick Dodson starts it off well concerning hell.

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[Vicus]

:p
Where certain people can go when yhey die, if so is it eternal

Hell (AKA planet EHRT is very "real", the dimension of the living death

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I suspect that we, as co-creators, are powerful enough to create anything we focus on. Might take a while. We are a reflection of our imaginary selves. We are eternal beings wearing a meat suit, riding a rock, hurtling through space. Thrill seekers. Always learning.

[TomKat]

In my experience, what the living call a "state of mind" the dead call a place. You have to be in hell before you go there. Stuart Wilde said he viewed Hell and saw one of the Rolling Stones there. I'd guess it was Mick because, according to Keith, Mick is is a fitness fanatic, possibly to prolong his life as long as he can.

[delfine]

I'll recommend reading " Multidimensional man" and "Vistas of infinity" by Jürgen Ziewe. He describes his experiences when out-of-body, and his travels in the different planes of the astral, and just like there are celestial planes, there most certainly is hellish planes as well. E. G. he describes the terrible after-death state of suicide bombers, who instead of the promised paradise, find themselves in indescribable pain and despair. I find his books very inspiring and insightful...

[xidaijena]

Well, Hell is exsiting. Where there is heaven, there will be hell.
Let me give you an easy example: I was sent by 110 and my family to the mental hospital for the sixth times. And the mental hospital for me is like a hell.
However, I still met five normal persons in the hospital which I treated them as angels sent from God (the Greatest Creator).
So, now I am at my home and I think my home is like a heaven compared with the mental hospital.:inlove:

[TraineeHuman]

I've always considered that spirituality should be based initially on one's own direct experiences of it. Because they're something you know for sure.
My own experiences suggest that there are at least three varieties of hell. One of these, for me, has been that of living in this physical world, at times. I mean, it's a place where virtually everyone has to do quite a lot of slave labor, right? It's also a place where "**** happens" -- accidents and chaos and conflict happen sometimes, regardless of what you do.

Secondly, there's the earthbound plane in the afterlife. It's in the astral, where I think time seems to take about twenty times as long as it does in the physical. And some (dead) people told me that it took them up to about two hundred years, their time, before they get out. That would be (or seem to them to be) about forty thousand years of our time. That's a lot of waiting. I guess feeling utterly bored is one type of hell, right?

I usually avoid going to any church buildings, including church halls (or mosques, or Jewish temples). That's because there'll usually be big numbers of earthbound (dead) people hanging around there. They think that by going to such a place there'll be someone there who can enable them to leave. The trouble is, most priests, rabbis, ministers, imams, etc unfortunately haven't learnt the relevant skills of how to identify a dead soul and how to heal and release him or her from that bondage. It happens that I can do that, usually in a few minutes flat. So what I experience is dead earthbound people's energies trying to stick onto my body like glue. Makes me feel like I badly need to wash my face with a wet rag. One time I went to a conference at what used to be a huge nunnery in the nineteenth century. There were quite literally thousands of dead earthbound persons hanging about there. I found a way to release them all, over about one day. The trouble was, though, that if any one of them had been made earthbound by some personal burden or addiction or fault I couldn't face, then I'd have a very painful, traumatic time until I'd healed my own ability to handle that particular issue. So, for about a whole day I was in extreme emotional pain like you wouldn't believe. But once that was healed in me too, I'd be so much stronger, and was.

On the other hand, it took me about fifty years to get my father, who'd died an alcoholic, out of the earthbound realm. Somehow he seemed quite adjjusted to it, so maybe to him it wasn't like a hell.

The third type of hell I would list (that I know of) is where an individual is trapped in a kind of "black box" in the astral that they can't find any way to get out of. They're like a hamster stuck on going round and round on the same wheel. In my experience this can take at least, say, half an hour or more of non-stop, expert psychic-energy healing work, plus maybe advising the person telepathically to take a certain point of view, or whatever.

At the end, though, seems to me that hell always leads to getting help eventually, and great emotional growth. So, hell leads to help. And yes, there really are all sorts of hospitals/etc in the sky (in the astral) too.

[xidaijena]

Well, to the hell, plz allow me to share two articles written by Xuefeng with all of you here, just a new thinking, plz don't feel uncomfortable, thx

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天堂地狱在哪里

---雪峰

已经不止一次听他人文章里说“天堂地狱就在心里，”“天堂地狱就在一念之间，”这种回答既迷惑自己，也迷惑他人，若说“天堂地狱就在心里，”哪心又在哪里？若说“天堂地狱就在一念之间，”哪为何我们不来它“一念” 去天堂呢？

这两种说法有一定的道理，“三界唯心，万法为识，”“境由心造，病从心生，”“像由心生，像随心灭，”“一念之差，天悬地殊，”“一念之差，咫尺千里，”“祸福苦乐，一念之差，”“一念清静烈焰城池，一念警觉船登 彼岸，”有道理啊，问题是用“心”和“念”来解说天堂地狱太含糊其辞，太模棱两可。

所谓天堂地狱都是相对而言，“上有天堂，下有苏杭，”说明苏州杭州景色秀美，地灵人杰，比其他地方好，文化大革命时期说“美国是富人的天堂，穷人的地狱，”同是一个空间，对有些人而言，是天堂，对有些人来说，是地 狱，外景随着心情的不同而有感觉上的差异，对人起一个善良的念头，可能会躲过一场争吵打斗，起一个邪恶的念头，可能会遭到杀生之祸，有时候生死就在一念之间，天堂在哪里？心中没有天堂，永远不知道天堂在哪里，要去 天堂，心中首先要有天堂，因一个恶毒的念头，天堂的大门就关闭了，地狱的大门就敞开了。

天堂到底在哪里？严格地讲，天堂不在心里。天堂由千年界、万年界、极乐界构成，千年界在离地球约960光年处的一个星球上，万年界在离地球约3480光年的星球上，而极乐界就是整个地球宇宙，极乐界的仙岛群岛洲在 几亿光年之外。

地狱到底在哪里？地狱由火炼层、冰冻层、阴间构成，都属于反物质世界，火炼层和冰冻层就是一个个特殊结构的黑洞，而阴间到处都是，相对人间而言，植物界和动物界也是地狱。

若不了解生命的反物质结构，若不了解反物质世界，我们很难明白地狱和极乐界，不论是天堂还是地狱，关键的问题不在心里，而是意识里，每一个空间都有特定的结构，与生命的结构是对应同频共振的，有什么样的生命结构， 就会去相应的生命空间，所以大家一定要把能量聚焦到结构上，而结构的核心是我们的意识，要形成好的意识，关键要在思维上下功夫，思维上的功夫主要的要从认识上下手，认识上不去，无法提升思维能力，思维上不去，意识 就无法转换，意识不变化，生命的反物质结构是难以改变的，生命的反物质结构不改变，我们只能是人的特征，人是去不了天堂的，除非你有了仙佛的意识。

多做些梦，然后想象你的梦境在哪里，就会逐渐明白天堂地狱在哪里。

2006-10-10

Google Translation:

Where is heaven and hell

--Xuefeng

I have heard other people’s articles saying “Heaven and hell are in the heart,” “Hell and heaven is just in one thought.” This answer confuses oneself and others. If you say “Hell and heaven is in your heart,” Where? If it is said that "heaven and hell are just between one thought," why don't we come to it and go to heaven with one thought?

There is a certain truth to these two sayings, "the three realms are ideal, all dharmas are consciousness," "the realm is created by the heart, and disease is born from the heart," "like being born by the heart, like being destroyed by the heart," "the difference between one thought, the world is very different. "The difference between one thought is a thousand miles away," "Fortune and happiness, and the difference between one thought," "One thought of the quiet and blazing city, the other thought of alerting the ship to the other shore," It makes sense. The problem is that the use of "heart" and "mind" to explain heaven and hell is too vague. The words are too ambiguous.

The so-called heaven and hell are all relative terms. "There is heaven above, and Suzhou and Hangzhou below." It shows that Suzhou and Hangzhou have beautiful scenery, brilliant ground and outstanding people, and they are better than other places. During the Cultural Revolution, it was said that "the United States is a paradise for the rich and a hell for the poor." "It’s the same space. For some people, it’s heaven. For some people, it’s hell. Depending on the mood, the location has different feelings. If you have a kind thought to people, you may avoid it. In a quarrel and fight, if you have an evil thought, you may be killed. Sometimes life and death are in a single thought. Where is heaven? There is no heaven in my heart, and I never know where heaven is. If we want to go to heaven, we must first have heaven in my heart. Because of a vicious thought, the gate of heaven is closed, and the gate of hell is opened.

Where is heaven? Strictly speaking, heaven is not in the heart. Heaven is composed of the Thousand Years Realm, the Ten Thousand Years Realm, and the Bliss Realm. The Thousand Years Realm is on a planet about 960 light-years away from the Earth, the Ten Thousand Years Realm is on the planet about 3480 light years away from the Earth, and the Bliss Realm is the entire earth universe. The Fairy Island Islands in the Bliss Realm are hundreds of millions of light-years away.

Where is the hell? The hell is composed of the fire-refining layer, the frozen layer, and the underworld. They all belong to the anti-matter world. The fire-refining layer and the frozen layer are black holes with special structures.

If we don’t understand the anti-matter structure of life, if we don’t understand the anti-matter world, it is difficult for us to understand hell and bliss, whether it’s heaven or hell. The structure of life corresponds to the resonance of the same frequency. What kind of life structure will go to the corresponding life space, so everyone must focus energy on the structure, and the core of the structure is our consciousness. We must form a good consciousness. , The key is to work hard on thinking. The main focus on thinking is to start with understanding. If you can’t understand, you can’t improve your thinking ability. What has changed is that the anti-matter structure of life will not change. We can only be human characteristics, and humans cannot go to heaven unless you have the consciousness of an immortal Buddha.

Have more dreams, and then imagine where your dreams are, and you will gradually understand where heaven and hell are.

2006-10-10

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如何去地狱——答周易
雪峰


你好周易先生！

阅读了你的《雪峰 你好 请问是否可以祈祷 自己入地狱》。为先生大乘心愿和慈悲心肠而动容，而敬佩。先生之心愿与地藏王菩萨心愿异曲同工，我可以称先生为地藏王菩萨化身。

去地狱，有三条途径，一是受上天指派去完成某项使命；二是祈祷道给你安排去地狱达成你的心愿；三是要作恶多端极端残忍。先生选择了第二条途径，只要你虔诚祈祷，信念坚定，依据吸引力法则和现实是自己意识的投射原理 ，再根据生命禅院“你给宇宙输送什么样的信息，宇宙就会给你反馈什么样的结果”法则，你去地狱的心愿一定能达成。

不过请允许我表达自己的观点供你参考，首先，说“地狱应该也是上帝身体的一部分”说法欠妥，理论上成立，实际上不是那样，虽说宇宙是一个整体，万物都在上帝的灵中，但上帝的“身体”不像我们常识认为的人体一样，上 帝的“身体”是浑沌体，并没有五脏六腑七窍毛发四肢之区分，“浑沌体”是怎么样的一种“身体”，难以言表。

你一个人下地狱，让地狱所有生命去天堂，这个心愿可以成就你成为菩萨，甚至成佛，为此祝贺你，你有福了。但你的心愿无法达成，原因有三：一、你没有那么大的功德可以实现自己的理想，或者说你没有那个资本和权力达成 自己如此伟大的心愿；二、对称平衡是宇宙法则，正负能量之和必须为零，这就需要地狱里有大量的生命，如果地狱消失，天堂也就不存在了，因为按照太极思维和太极原理，凡事必须对立统一，失去了一方，另一方也就失去了 存在的条件，“万物负阴而抱阳，”阴极消失，阳极将不复存在；三、宇宙法则很公正，地狱生命有他们生活在地狱的因果，每一个生命去天堂，他们自身必须具备足够的功德和完美的生命反物质结构，任何人替代不了，一人得 道鸡犬难以升天，所有人的罪过你承担不起，除非你的能量巨大到与天堂能量相等的地步。

如果你去地狱度化地狱生命，你永远也度化不完，一旦下了地狱，事情根本不是你想象的那样，你不要把地狱的生命想象成人间的生命那样，度化一个人都是很困难的，何况去度化地狱生命，不信你试着把一头猪度化成人看看结 果如何。

我的建议是，顺从道的安排，不要刻意为之，不要执着，上帝之道是自然之道，任何刻意的做法都与道的运行背道而驰。

以上是我的观点，仅供先生参考，对先生的心愿，不支持、不阻挡。

2011/5/23

Google Translation:

How to go to hell——Answer to Zhouyi
Xuefeng


Hello Mr. Zhou Yi!

I read your "Xuefeng Hello, can I pray and go to hell". I was moved and admired by Mr. Mahayana's wish and compassion. The wish of the husband is the same as the wish of the Ksitigarbha. I can call my husband the incarnation of the Ksitigarbha.

There are three ways to go to hell. One is to be assigned by God to complete a certain mission; the other is to pray for you to arrange for you to go to hell to fulfill your wish; and the third is to do evil and extreme cruelty. The husband chose the second way. As long as you pray sincerely, have firm convictions, based on the law of attraction and reality as the projection principle of your own consciousness, and then according to the Life Zen Academy, "what kind of information you send to the universe, the universe will give you feedback. "Such results" rule, your wish to go to hell will surely be fulfilled.

But please allow me to express my views for your reference. First of all, it is not correct to say that "Hell should also be part of God's body". It is theoretically valid, but in fact it is not like that. Although the universe is a whole, everything is in the spirit of God. , But God’s “body” is not like the human body that we think of in common sense. God’s “body” is a chaotic body, and there is no distinction between the internal organs, six organs, seven orifices, hairs and limbs. What kind of “body” is the “chaotic body” , Indescribable.

If you go to hell alone and let all life in hell go to heaven, this wish can make you a bodhisattva or even a Buddha. Congratulations on this, you are blessed. But your wish cannot be fulfilled for three reasons: 1. You don’t have that great merit to realize your ideals, or you don’t have the capital and power to fulfill your great wish; 2. Symmetrical balance is the law of the universe, with positive and negative energy. The sum must be zero, which requires a large number of lives in hell. If hell disappears, heaven will not exist, because according to Tai Chi thinking and Tai Chi principles, everything must be unity of opposites. If one party is lost, the other party will also be lost. The condition of existence is that "everything bears yin and embraces yang," the cathode disappears, and the anode will no longer exist; third, the law of the universe is very fair, hell life has the cause and effect of living in hell, and every life goes to heaven, they must have enough of themselves No one can replace the merits and perfect anti-matter structure of life. It is difficult for one person to ascend to heaven. You can't bear the sins of all people unless your energy is huge enough to be equal to the energy of heaven.

If you go to hell to save life in hell, you will never be able to save life. Once you get to hell, things are not what you imagined. Don’t think of life in hell like life in adults. It's difficult, not to mention saving lives in hell. If you don't believe me, try to convert a pig to an adult to see how it turns out.

My suggestion is to obey the Tao’s arrangements, don’t deliberately do it, don’t cling to it, God’s way is the natural way, and any deliberate practice runs counter to the way of the way.

The above are my views, which are for your reference only. I don’t support or block the wishes of your husband.

2011/5/23

[Angels1981]

Hell is living in fear. I've gone through it to know it. I've been shown heaven which I prefer and hell is an absence of love. If you block out love it does not help you at all. That's my two shillings. Angels.