The Lost Jesus Scroll!!

[Bassplayer1]

Hi everyone,

I recently learnt about The Lost Jesus Scroll in an interview between Nicholas Veniamin and Maria Bernardis.

I had no idea that this book existed! No wonder the Vatican had it under lock and key! Thankfully, it's been 'allowed' out in the public domain.

People interested in Taoism, Yoga Philosophy, Buddhism etc may love this material.

This reminds me of the discussion about the Cathars some of us had in another thread. I bet this material is exactly the kind of wisdom they followed.

Even the book's lengthy introduction is fascinating explaining the process of getting permission from the Vatican and translation etc - this is a genuine text and not fake.

Jesus shares his thoughts with his disciples on the following: Nutrition, Fasting, Meditation, raising frequency/vibration, re-incarnation, love, peace, non-violence etc.

Friends I've shared this with love it and none of us are Christians! We've got together a little book club where we meet up have a few beers and talk about various topics Jesus discusses.

It's beautifully written. Here's the PDF download.

https://fromthealphatotheomegadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/the-lost-jesus-scroll.pdf

I'll also share the interview - Maria talks about the changes that have been made to the Lord's prayer etc and how there are 23 commandments and not just ten.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/TrwtaIzjSO3C/

Incidentally, mentioning Taoism above, I also recently discovered that at the turn of last century, there were scrolls found in a cave in China showing that there were (and probably still are) Taoists who followed Jesus, and how think Lao Tze and Jesus said the same things. I can't find a copy of the book that isn't super expensive but there is a PDF version is available with Scribd

https://www.scribd.com/document/375376788/Christ-the-Eternal-Tao-pdf

Both of these books are like beautiful 'training manuals' to help us through this weird world.

[Bill Ryan]

Wonderful, many thanks. :sun: Now in the Avalon Library:


The Lost Jesus Scroll
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Elizabeth%20MacDonald%20Burrows%20-%20The%20Lost%20Jesus%20Scroll.pdf
Christ The Eternal Tao
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Hieromonk%20Damascene%20Christensen%2C%20Lou%20Shibai%2C%20You-shan%20Tang%20-%20Christ%20the%20Eternal%20Tao.pdf

[Bassplayer1]

Wonderful, many thanks. :sun: Now in the Avalon Library:


The Lost Jesus Scroll
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Elizabeth%20MacDonald%20Burrows%20-%20The%20Lost%20Jesus%20Scroll.pdf
Christ The Eternal Tao
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Hieromonk%20Damascene%20Christensen%2C%20Lou%20Shibai%2C%20You-shan%20Tang%20-%20Christ%20the%20Eternal%20Tao.pdf


Thank you!

[ExomatrixTV]

TrwtaIzjSO3C

[Tyy1907]

Thank you thank you tthank you!
I've been reading all morning
There it is!

[Bassplayer1]

Thank you thank you tthank you!
I've been reading all morning
There it is!

Oh I'm so happy Tyy1907! This book is like a shining light in all the darkness right now.

If you've happened to watch the link to the interview at the start of this thread, with Maria Benardis, she talks about another Jesus gem of a text called Pistis Sophia. I haven't read it yet, but it has sections in it outlining the 23 commandments as well as affirmations to go with them. I've had a quick peak at them and its great stuff!

Without buying the book, which can be pricey, you can access it here on Scribd to read for free online or subscribe to download.

https://www.scribd.com/document/3016037/Pistis-Sophia-Mead

I'm copying/pasting a translation of what is apparently the real, original Lord's Prayer.
Apparently saying 'Amun' three times is good for raising our frequency - I suppose like chanting 'Om' etc

Lords Prayer

Translation by G.J.R. Ouseley from The Gospel of the Holy Twelve

"Our Father-Mother Who art above and within:

Hallowed be Thy Name in twofold Trinity.
In Wisdom, Love and Equity Thy Kingdom come to all.
Thy will be done, As in Heaven so in Earth.
Give us day by day to partake of Thy holy Bread, and the fruit of the living Vine.
As Thou dost forgive us our trespasses, so may we forgive others who trespass against us.
Shew upon us Thy goodness, that to others we may shew the same.
In the hour of temptation, deliver us from evil.
Amun."

Sorry, I should say that I'm led to believe this above Lord's Prayer is a translation of what is meant to be the original. I'm still learning and discovering this and I don't want to offend any Christians reading this xx

[Bill Ryan]

If you've happened to watch the link to the interview at the start of this thread, with Maria Benardis, she talks about another Jesus gem of a text called Pistis Sophia. I haven't read it yet, but it has sections in it outlining the 23 commandments as well as affirmations to go with them. I've had a quick peak at them and its great stuff!Here it is: :thumbsup:


Pistis Sophia
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/G.R.S.%20Mead%20-%20Pistis%20Sophia.pdf

[7alon]

TrwtaIzjSO3C

I am still watching, but I wanted to note I got massive waves when she said Gospel of Q. I am aware of the Gospel as well, I just couldn't find it. I am 11:30 in and so far what she is saying is what I have discovered in my studies, which I have been doing every single day for over 5 years. This has been my main focus since I started remembering things in 2016. Thanks for this :sun:

Like she said, reading the Nag Hammadi is highly recommended. I think everybody should read that.

[Peace in Oz]

It is worth mentioning here that there is another book titled The Jesus Scroll written by the Australian author / journalist Donovan Joyce in 1972.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jesus_Scroll
Quote from Wikipedia:
Joyce's book made the claim that Jesus of Nazareth may have actually died aged 80 at Masada[4] near the Dead Sea, site of the last stand made by Jewish zealot rebels against the Roman Empire, after the Fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Temple.

Joyce, an Australian journalist, claimed to have seen a scroll stolen from the Masada excavations. He wrote that it was one of fifteen scrolls discovered during the dig there. His book states that the stolen autobiographical scroll was signed Yeshua ben Ya’akob ben Gennesareth, who described himself as eighty years old and added that he was the last of the rightful kings of Israel. The name when translated into English became Jesus of Gennesareth, son of Jacob.[5] Joyce identifies the author as Jesus of Nazareth. Joyce's book further suggests that Jesus may have survived the crucifixion, was present during the Roman siege of Masada during the Jewish Revolt of 66-74 AD, and that he had married Mary Magdalene and fathered a child with her.

Joyce claimed that he attempted to visit Masada in 1964 during the archaeological excavation but was prevented by Yigael Yadin. Joyce further claimed that an anonymous and corrupt archaeologist, "Dr. Grosset", asked him to help smuggle the 'Jesus Scroll' out of Israel that had been discovered during that dig.[6] Joyce says in his book that the scroll was sneaked aboard an airplane by Dr. Grosset, who then most likely took it to Russia to strike a deal with Soviet leaders.[6]

Joyce proposed controversial theories concerning the historicity of Jesus that caused outrage among many Christians, and for which he received numerous death threats.[1]

[Open Minded Dude]

If you are into past life regression literature this one might also be for you. I've read it years ago and found it interesting. It confirms the Jesus-Essenes connection.

https://ozarkmt.com/product/jesus-and-the-essenes-by-dolores-cannon/


Jesus and the Essenes By Dolores Cannon

This extraordinary document represents a new form of historical research, and straightens out many open questions and misinterpretations. It takes the form of direct dialogues between a modern researcher and a member of the Qumran Essene community. Alive around the time of Christ, this community has become the focus of ideas about the connection of Jesus’ teachings to earlier traditions. This book gives a full description of the nature and purpose of the community, and the birth and upbringing of Jesus and John the Baptist. Also, it gives Essene renderings of Key Old Testament stories, concerning Moses, Ezekiel, Daniel and others, plus startling insights into ancient history. This information is candid and for real, even about the Dead Sea Scrolls, and many Biblical images and statements are corrected and added to.

[Billy]

After watching the Bitchute link posted in the OP, I then went to Maria Bernardis YouTube channel and found this video where Mother Mary shares with the disciples her previous lives on earth while on her last day on earth before she was taken up alive.

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[Bill Ryan]

And also: (Yes, Jesus survived the crucifixion: just read the first chapter for more on this)


The Jesus Papers, by Michael Baigent
https://projectavalon.net/The_Jesus_Papers_Michael_Baigent.pdf

https://projectavalon.net/The_Jesus_Papers_Michael_Baigent.pdf

[Merkaba360]

Very nice. I will try to read these when I have time. But, for now, my question is about the myth. Jesus's name and story are all quite mythological (Christos = the light = the son = the sun.....etc.). Given the nature of the black magician jerks confusing myth and reality, as well as hijacking history, why should someone view his story as being more than mythology? Is there anything in the Jesus papers or else that gives strong evidence of a real physical bodied avatar type guy?

I've always figured that it is very possible that the controllers took Yeshua (or whoever), a powerful being and painted over his story with myth. So, it could very well be both real and myth. I guess for me it hasn't really mattered, since whoever wrote the accounts of "Je-Zeus" was no fool. I'm not even convinced the buddha was a real guy born in 543B.C. for similar reasons. The message is what matters. But for this thread, I would appreciate if anyone could point out something that would lead me to beleive Jesus/Iesus/Isis was a flesh and blood baller :)

[Eagle Eye]

Christianity religion we have today is a mix of Scriptures and Roman paganism. Jesus wasn't cruxified, nor was son of God, he was a choosen prophet by God and a great sign for mankind. He was supported by the Holy Spirit, to speak the word of God and to do miracles. God is one and there is no trinity, everything is His creation.

[Open Minded Dude]

About 10 years or so ago I read this book by the now late Ms Murdock (Acharya was her author pseudonym). She makes the point that Jesus' story is a hybrid of many other son/sun of god figures that came before him, even one (forgot his name) in the OT already. It is also one of the main works regarding 'Astro-Theology'.

https://stellarhousepublishing.com/product/the-christ-conspiracy-the-greatest-story-ever-sold-revised-edition/


The 2020 Revised Edition of Christ Conspiracy includes a new Preface by Acharya, an Editorial Preface by Dr. Robert M. Price, an Appendix by Dr. Christian Lindtner and another by Robert Tulip. Plus, Memorial commentary from Ken Humphreys, Kristyn Whitaker Hood of Mythicist Milwaukee, David Bruce MDiv and Robert Tulip. Also includes an Afterword by N.W. Barker. There’s good reason why this book is still popular after 20 years.

Contrary to popular belief, there was no single man at the genesis of Christianity but rather many characters rolled into one. The majority of these characters were personifications of the ubiquitous solar myth as reflected in the stories of such popular deities as Mithra, Hercules, Dionysus, and numerous others borrowed from Roman mythology and beyond. The story of Jesus as portrayed in the Gospels resembles those of the earlier savior-gods Krishna and Horus. These redeemer tales are similar not because they reflect the actual exploits of a variety of men who did and said similar things but because they represent the same ancient core of knowledge that revolved around the celestial bodies and natural forces called Astrotheology.

In this highly controversial and explosive book, archaeologist, linguist, and mythologist Acharya S/D.M. Murdock marshals an enormous amount of startling evidence to demonstrate that Christianity and the story of Jesus Christ were created by members of various secret societies, mystery schools and religions to unify the Roman Empire under one state religion. Through such fabrication, this multinational cabal drew on a multitude of myths and rituals that existed long before Christian era, reworking them over centuries into the story and religion passed down today.

Chapters in The Christ Conspiracy 20th-year anniversary revised edition include:

Editorial Preface by Dr. Robert M. Price
Preface
Introduction
The Quest for Jesus Christ
The Holy Forgery Mill
Biblical Sources
Non-Biblical Sources
Further Evidence of a Fraud
Physical Evidence
The Myth of Hebrew Monotheism
The Characters
Astrology and the Bible
The Son of God is the Sun of God
The Disciples are the Signs of the Zodiac
The Gospel Story
Other Elements and Symbols of the Christian Myth
The Patriarchs and Saints are the Gods of Other Cultures
The Meaning of Revelation
Essenes, Zealots and Zadokites
Alexandria: Crucible of Christianity
Enter Rome
The Making of a Myth
Conclusion
Bibliography
Index
Appendix by Dr. Christian Lindtner
Appendix by Robert Tulip
In Memoriam: Acharya S
Afterword by N.W. Barker

This book contains a table of contents, bibliography and index, and includes over 1,845 citations and 15 illustrations. Primary sources discussed include the Bible, Dead Sea Scrolls, Talmud, Book of Enoch, Gospel of the Hebrews, Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of the Infancy, Epistle of Barnabas and Shepherd of Hermas, as well as Josephus, Pliny, Tacitus, Suetonius, Justin Martyr, Marcion, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Augustine, Eusebius, Porphyry, Celsus, et al.

“I find it undeniable that many of the epic heroes and ancient patriarchs and matriarchs of the Old Testament were personified stars, planets, and constellations.”
– Dr. Robert Price, Biblical Scholar with two Ph.D’s

“Your scholarship is relentless! …the research conducted by D.M. Murdock concerning the myth of Jesus Christ is certainly both valuable and worthy of consideration.”
– Dr. Ken Feder, Professor of Archaeology

[betoobig]

TrwtaIzjSO3C

I am still watching, but I wanted to note I got massive waves when she said Gospel of Q. I am aware of the Gospel as well, I just couldn't find it. I am 11:30 in and so far what she is saying is what I have discovered in my studies, which I have been doing every single day for over 5 years. This has been my main focus since I started remembering things in 2016. Thanks for this :sun:

Like she said, reading the Nag Hammadi is highly recommended. I think everybody should read that.
https://www.academia.edu/RegisterToDownload/BulkDownload
The Gospel of Q: A Public Domain Translation
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This public domain translation is based on the reconstruction of James M. Robinson, Paul Hoffman, and John S., Kloppenborg, eds., "The Critical Edition of Q: Synopsis including the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, Mark and Thomas with English, German, and French Translations of Q and Thomas" (Peeters), 2000.

Much love
oh... and thank you so much for this Bassplayer1

[Tyy1907]

Trying to figure out how to share this with people given it's "not the bible". Jesus' words in this book are like poetry for the soul. Amazing

[xidaijena]

Christianity religion we have today is a mix of Scriptures and Roman paganism. Jesus wasn't cruxified, nor was son of God, he was a choosen prophet by God and a great sign for mankind. He was supported by the Holy Spirit, to speak the word of God and to do miracles. God is one and there is no trinity, everything is His creation.

I totally agree with you. Amen~YES!:clapping:

[Tyy1907]

So true:

One of Jesus' disciples spoke up asking, "Master, how is possible for those who cannot read or
write to learn, other than to attend those who are versed in the Law? It is only in such a manner that
all people can learn the teachings of Moses."
And Jesus looked upon the disciple, nodding his head. "What you say is true. Yet, those who
interpret the law for the people are oft times blinded by their own concepts. Those who follow can
rise no further than he who leads.
"Truly, those who seek only the Law in books oft times becomes like an unmoving pool of
water, for they allow nothing new into their bodies, their minds, or their souls. In time they become
rigid and fixed, dissatisfied with life and intolerant of those who are different than they. Know you
not, that they become unhappy with their lot, for they have truly died even before the earth claims
their bodies.

[Savannah]

It is worth mentioning here that there is another book titled The Jesus Scroll written by the Australian author / journalist Donovan Joyce in 1972.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jesus_Scroll
Quote from Wikipedia:
Joyce's book made the claim that Jesus of Nazareth may have actually died aged 80 at Masada[4] near the Dead Sea, site of the last stand made by Jewish zealot rebels against the Roman Empire, after the Fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Temple.

Joyce, an Australian journalist, claimed to have seen a scroll stolen from the Masada excavations. He wrote that it was one of fifteen scrolls discovered during the dig there. His book states that the stolen autobiographical scroll was signed Yeshua ben Ya’akob ben Gennesareth, who described himself as eighty years old and added that he was the last of the rightful kings of Israel. The name when translated into English became Jesus of Gennesareth, son of Jacob.[5] Joyce identifies the author as Jesus of Nazareth. Joyce's book further suggests that Jesus may have survived the crucifixion, was present during the Roman siege of Masada during the Jewish Revolt of 66-74 AD, and that he had married Mary Magdalene and fathered a child with her.

Joyce claimed that he attempted to visit Masada in 1964 during the archaeological excavation but was prevented by Yigael Yadin. Joyce further claimed that an anonymous and corrupt archaeologist, "Dr. Grosset", asked him to help smuggle the 'Jesus Scroll' out of Israel that had been discovered during that dig.[6] Joyce says in his book that the scroll was sneaked aboard an airplane by Dr. Grosset, who then most likely took it to Russia to strike a deal with Soviet leaders.[6]

Joyce proposed controversial theories concerning the historicity of Jesus that caused outrage among many Christians, and for which he received numerous death threats.[1]



Ralph Ellis

Who was the Biblical King Jesus, in the historical record? Having researched this for 30 years, Ralph Ellis has conclusively proven that he was King Izas of Edessa. The first eight of these lectures has provided the background, and now we can see exactly who the ephemeral Jesus really was - he was a real king, with a real capital city and a real principality.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwVz7GVtnyM