Researcher finds rare footage of 1950s housewife in LSD experiment

[Muzz]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348080/Grandma-acid-Researcher-finds-rare-footage-1950s-housewife-LSD-experiment.html

Watch the video clip.
Some interesting comments about being one with everything. Bill Hicks always talked about LSD expanding the mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5d4wWGK4Ig

[steve_a]

Hi Muzz,

A typical 1950s housewife after taking LSD turns into a typical 2011 housewife or Avalon member. :D

Steve

[Heart-2-Heart]

There is no... ME... she said ...so the Ego only is..when... LSD...is absent...a new one for Greybeard.....LOL...

[bodixa]

That is awesome.

[greybeard]

Thats why people get addicted my friend. Thank U.
The very first high shows what life would be without the egos rules and regulations, one feels liberated free, all inhibition gone, one self in fact.
The first high cant be repeated but the search goes on.
So addiction is born.
They used to give novice monks a drug just once so they would know what they were looking for in meditation.

Truth is not to look for anything in meditation, just let it occur.
Chris

[Muzz]

Hi Steve
I had a chuckle at this too. Maybe its an Avalon members mum . Its uncanny stuff she comes out with.
Cheers
Muzz

[Muzz]

Hi Greybeard
Totally agree, it does show you a different perspective of reality but it can be a slippery slope from there. One of my friends became a herion addict back in the early 90s and you soon learn that taking drugs regularly for recreation is not the way to grow your soul.
Cheers

[Muzz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXmzcroUmdU

Couldn't resist. ;)

[mrmalco]

Just a detail - but important. There is no equivalence between pschotropics and opiates. Heroin's action in the system and psyche is nothing like LSD's. I always found LSD positive however its perceptual effects don't necessarily have much to do with experience in deep meditation. Can do, but the internal qualitative sense seems quite different. When meditation becomes contemplation which it does with practice it goes into a different dispositional gear (sorry hard to verbalise). Most people I know well took LSD at some point in the last 4 decades. Some took lots of it. A couple did come unstuck because they were unstuck before and LSD brought their disbalances right to the surface; or their psyches were not yet full-formed - that's the danger in young people taking the stuff. But these latter were a tiny minority. Someone I knew took smallish quantities of LSD almost daily for many years. She's was fine, brought up a healthy family and ran a successfull international charitable foundation. Still thriving last I heard. None are, or ever became, heroin addicts and almost all are really rather well. Far more people - in a wider circle of acquaintances - have suffered, and caused others to suffer, from alcohol. No blame.
I guess most Avalonians knew all this anyway ....

[000]

At about 4:09 into the video she says "Me? There isn't any Me."

I've used LSD a few times over the years amongst other psychedelics (DMT, Mescaline, Psilocybin, 4-AcO-DMT, etc.) I don't use anymore because they fulfilled their obligations in my life in aiding in my unveiling in this level of the dream. They helped me remember things I'd forgotten...

At 5:49 she says to the man interviewing her "I can't tell you about it. If you can't see it then you'll just never know it. I feel sorry for you."

Some people bag on it because it's not pure like meditation. That's fine, but they must realize there are many roads that lead to unveiling and no one's road is the same. Mine happened through reasearch, the use of psychedelics and many years of lucid dreaming.

Psychs are not addictive. They show you your best and worst aspects up front. Substances like opiates do the opposite, they veil everything, you forget that you're even there. It's a feeling of false heaven and that attracts a lot of people because they'd sooner forget the state that the world is in, or the state their personal lives are in. I'm not against the use of opiates though if they're from their natural plant source and being used shamanically or medicinally.

Psychs allowed me to walk through a doorway to thinking holographically (rather than left brain/right brain) and they also showed me many doorways I could walk through with my work, music and art. It's all a matter of set and setting and having the knowledge to their proper, healing, use. I spent hundreds of hours researching before I ever ingested them.

[Tea]

I really enjoyed that video, it was even inspiring, but I don't plan on taking LSD. I think this one comment from the article sums things up fairly well.



Joking aside, I experienced LSD nearly 30 years ago now and can say it was an extremely spiritual and profound experience. When I closed my eyes, it was like looking at God's art gallery, by far the most beautiful thing by light years I have ever seen. However, the LSD available today is nothing like the stuff back then. It has been altered and I wouldn't recomend anyone touch it with a bargepole. Even back then I knew someone who took it too much and he was never quite the same again. Its like putting rocket fuel into a car engine. It is true that it can propel you to a mystical vision but as with rocket fuel, it can easily blow up the inadequate engine. Psychologists tell us we use less than 10% of our minds. Here is the final frontier, mankind's true birthright, though more wisely strove for through spiritual exercise, meditation and dedication. If we knock, the door will eventually be opened...

[MorningLightMountain]

Reality is for people who can't handle their acid...maaan. Better living through Chemistry...winky,wink. Did more than my share in the early 70's andddddddddiiiv bcvcdcxii iiiimmmmm jsiizzz jjssuut fine...cheers...MLM

[pilotsimone]

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[noprophet]

The big issue with acid is people who've done it know they can't talk about it.

People who haven't think they can.

[Teakai]

That's funky.

I remember another housewife who took LSD and remembered her life as a dinosaur.

I'd love to find a way to activate that part of the brain just by thinking about it.

[meeradas]

I'd love to find a way to activate that part of the brain just by thinking about it.
Yup, that'd be, no, IS great.
May you find it. Amen.

[Teakai]

Yup, that'd be, no, IS great.
May you find it. Amen.

Seriously, Meeradas? You can make yourself aware of this stuff without using hallucinogenics? Any tips?

(There goes the housework - oooh such pretty pretty du-u-u-u-u-st.)

[Ammit]

Teakai, I have often wondered about this 10% of our brain that we supposedly do not use. I have thought maybe it is linked to the junk dna that we have. Maybe this dna is responsible in some way to unlock the doors of the other 90%..!

I would like to also find a way to get in there , even if only for a short time to see what we actually have, who knows, that may be the place that all our past records are kept.

Blessings

Ammit

[Fructedor]

Hi Muzz

Thanks for posting that - some wonderful comments from the lady. "Inside? I have no inside." But the one that really got me was - "I wish I could talk in Technicolor." Oh man - don't we all?

Here's an interesting talk

http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html

Hope you enjoy it.

Best wishes

Fructedor

[Teakai]

Teakai, I have often wondered about this 10% of our brain that we supposedly do not use. I have thought maybe it is linked to the junk dna that we have. Maybe this dna is responsible in some way to unlock the doors of the other 90%..!

I would like to also find a way to get in there , even if only for a short time to see what we actually have, who knows, that may be the place that all our past records are kept.

Blessings

Ammit

Hi Ammit - I thought it was only 10% that we did use.
Though I always wondered how they figured that out, because surely, to know what a percentage of something is you have to know its entire measure.

But, going by those reckonings - 80% is a heck of a lot of brain power going to waste.

[meeradas]

I'd love to find a way to activate that part of the brain just by thinking about it.


Seriously, Meeradas? You can make yourself aware of this stuff without using hallucinogenics? Any tips?

Hi Teakai!

No tips [sorry...], hints maybe.
Cannot make myself willingly whenever i want it.
But: Every now and then (still too rare and fleeting, these occasions, for 'my' taste), a moment like this seems to be 'given', and yes, [always] without taking anything.

What is helping though, is tuning yourself to whatever is desired, then resonating with it.
For instance, i had just watched this great docu (http://theavalonfiles.com/secret/secure/metamorphosis/index.html) [thanks again, AlkaMyst], and then the "housewife tapes" mentioned above... only to find myself in a situation that is best described here with the expressions of the "housewife's" face in the video (should have taped my own experience...).

Note: When i watch sth that fascinates me, i seem to somehow merge with the watched material - which is a gift, but needs also caution (that's one of the reasons why i quit having tv about 16 yrs ago). But i guess, everyone knows this to some degree, to "disappear" in a movie or a piece of art, or watching the sky...

Tuned to, resonating with... sounds like we can do something about it, doesn' it?
Can't will it though; all this must somehow be naturally flowing, from the inside; and if there's an actual "result" [=experience], it still always feels like pure grace because one is grateful for it [to whom, hum?!].

This here, dear Teakai, was my wish for you to have that.

May you find it. Amen.

Cheers!

[Teakai]

Hi Teakai!

No tips [sorry...], hints maybe.
Cannot make myself willingly whenever i want it.
But: Every now and then (still too rare and fleeting, these occasions, for 'my' taste), a moment like this seems to be 'given', and yes, [always] without taking anything.

What is helping though, is tuning yourself to whatever is desired, then resonating with it.
For instance, i had just watched this great docu (http://theavalonfiles.com/secret/secure/metamorphosis/index.html) [thanks again, AlkaMyst], and then the "housewife tapes" mentioned above... only to find myself in a situation that is best described here with the expressions of the "housewife's" face in the video (should have taped my own experience...).

Note: When i watch sth that fascinates me, i seem to somehow merge with the watched material - which is a gift, but needs also caution (that's one of the reasons why i quit having tv about 16 yrs ago). But i guess, everyone knows this to some degree, to "disappear" in a movie or a piece of art, or watching the sky...

Tuned to, resonating with... sounds like we can do something about it, doesn' it?
Can't will it though; all this must somehow be naturally flowing, from the inside; and if there's an actual "result" [=experience], it still always feels like pure grace because one is grateful for it [to whom, hum?!].

This here, dear Teakai, was my wish for you to have that.


Cheers!

Thanks Meeradas - what you posted about being totally absorbed in something reminded me of when I was a kid and I would be reading an Archie comic (for instance) and then I would just find myself staring at the picture, waiting for it to do the next thing. I guess that was pretty absorbed.
But, I haven't done that since I was a kid - and it wasn't particularly blissful or anything.

I don't know whether what you're talking about is like that or if it is what is called satsang (I think that's the word) where you feel absoutely connected and one with that which is around you.

It's amazing (and frustrating) to know there is this whole other perception of reality that we're missing and the power to see it is in our heads - but not knowing the tools to access it.

I really hope you get your wish :)

[pilotsimone]

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[Teakai]

There's a guy named Stuart Wilde who gives tips on how to do this.

Here are basics:

Look up and focus on where the ceiling and the wall meet. Then focus on a point about ½ way between that joint and yourself. Look for the 'dry rain' and keep focusing.

He used to spend hours staring into this space (he called it 'the morph) and was very successful in getting answers. It's as if it were a crystal ball. :)

Try it!

Hi Pilotsimone - I can see the dry rain - if what I'm thinking of as dry rain is in fact dry rain. Is it all that pixelated sort of stuff that's in the air everywhere?

And, normally when I focus for a while on a particular point on the ceiling for instance - part of it disappears. For instance the light may go, or a beam. Has anyone had this happen? Maybe I need to keep doing it for longer and see what happens next. Heck, maybe it's merging through the barrier or something - COOL!!!

The two above are both different things - just saying in case it's relevant to anything.

I shall look definitely look up Stuart Wilde - Thanks :)

Life as a needle *snore*
Especially if it was only used for mending :)

Salvia's illegal over here. All that stuff is illegal - because 'they' care - about us not finding out the truth. :rolleyes:

[pilotsimone]

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[Ross]

"I cant quite see it ,can you tell me what you see"

That was a funny comment coming from the observer dude.

[Teakai]

Yes, the way you describe the dry rain sounds right. Stuart would stare for up to 18 hours at a time sometimes. So, I think doing it for longer might be the key.

Did he see anything other than that do you know Piltsimone? After staring at the dry rain for 18 hours I mean. I haven't done a decent search on him yet.
Can't imagine being left uninterrupted for that long.

Oh, and another thing I thought of - when meditating I get these swirly pulsating white fog like clouds coming at me. Does anyone know anything about that?

How exciting to think I might be right on the brink of...something :lol:

[Kindling]

"I cant quite see it ,can you tell me what you see"

That was a funny comment coming from the observer dude.

That his me as funny, too, for some reason :-).

[pilotsimone]

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[Teakai]

Thanks very much, Pilotsimone - appreciate it :)

[wegge]

Hello all,

just stumbles about this thread. I´m familiar both with acid and i think also with stuarts experiences. For me it happens when I focus my view (not closing the eyes for a prolonged times) on walls (not only but most of the time) where pictures are hanging (pure walls are also good sometimes). Everything seems underlayed (?) with vibrating waving points( can´t describe) and the pictures are getting a blue or turquoise "frame" that can expand sometimes (it´s also possible that blue or turquoise shapes appear at pure walls) . Also experienced the vanishing of things. Had a "piece of art" made out of single leather bands that catched at least 2x2m of the wall and parts of it just disappeared for moments.. (was fasting at this time also which could enhanced these "abilities"? )

Sorry for my drifting towards convoluted sentences but i´m no native speaker ;)

[anikohu]

Hi Muzz,

A typical 1950s housewife after taking LSD turns into a typical 2011 housewife or Avalon member. :D

Steve

That was so funny Steve,,:bounce: