View Full Version : Practical actions if the vaccine team comes to your door (Discussion)
thepainterdoug
2nd August 2021, 18:18
Friends
It seems I know so much that some days I feel I know so little.
Can we all contribute to this post with real critical facts and actionable things so we can all know and use the best of what we know in the coming days.
They are ramping it all up and I beleive August onwards,things are going to get very real for people wanting to return to work. They are pulling out all the stops all over the world.
Try to keep things short and concise when possible. Sources as well
* pcr test? not reliable, doesnt work. how do we know?
* its not a vaccine, not approved, its a dna altering operating system. why?
* reliable stats, covid, jabb stats to vaers etc.
* grapheneoxide in jabs. we know this. why does it matter?
* our legal rights. hippa laws, constitution, bill of rights.
* with what and how should we respond at our door to knock and talks ? best form and responses.
* what can an employee respond with
to their employer being told they will loose their job? legal issues, nueremburg laws
and so on.
it would be so helpful if the best and most reliable info from many posts were collected on to this thread?
I will start to contribute to this as well.
thanks everyone
the painterdoug
Bill Ryan
2nd August 2021, 18:45
This may not be quite what you're looking for here, but in terms of actionable (personal) steps, I've prepared this printed statement — in Spanish, printed because my Spanish is poor — to present to anyone who comes to my door here in Ecuador trying to recommend a 'vaccination'.
(First, they'd have to negotiate a locked gate and an excitable dog. :) And it's politically unlikely here anyway, but a visit about this may be theoretically possible.)
~~~
Thank you for your concern. I have studied the medical research, and it is a fact that the vaccine can be dangerous for some people. There have been tens of thousands of injuries and deaths caused by the vaccine that have been reported in the VAERS database. Therefore, I choose not to get vaccinated. I am extremely healthy, I climb mountains regularly, and I live alone in the equivalent of a permanent quarantine. In addition, I believe I had a mild case of covid-19 last year. Therefore if so, I have natural immunity.
The Constitution of Ecuador states:
Article 362. Healthcare as a public service shall be provided through state, private, autonomous, and community institutions, as well as those that practice alternative and complementary ancestral medicine. Healthcare services shall be safe, of a high quality, and humane and they shall guarantee informed consent, access to information, and confidentiality of the information of patients.
Matthew
2nd August 2021, 18:52
In the UK I was given (conversational) advice to say "I'm still making up my mind", rather than "I do not consent". Trials ending in 2023 for most of them goes in my favour.
thepainterdoug
2nd August 2021, 18:58
Bill yes and Thank you. This can be printed and offered to people. now just have to be sure of the U S constitution which should be close to the same, based on what I read of yours.
thanks Matthew as well. Kick the can down the road
Open Minded Dude
2nd August 2021, 19:04
If they knock on your door remain polite and just say sth like:
'I do not have to talk to you about this or anything else. (Optional: And moreover I do not have to justify myself what I do with my body.) Please leave now and don't come back. Thank you and have a good day'.
Then close the door. Takes you 1 minute of your life and case settled.
Matthew
2nd August 2021, 19:35
Bill yes and Thank you. This can be printed and offered to people. now just have to be sure of the U S constitution which should be close to the same, based on what I read of yours.
thanks Matthew as well. Kick the can down the road
Sure it's kicking it down the road. But avoidance is not denial. I can respond with "I do not consent" anytime, why say it first? The people at the door, with their script, are impervious to good sense, logic or any kind of counter-argument. In the end "I do not consent" is still avoidance, I'd rather keep all the cards I can while I can ';)
This psychological warfare they're waging on us, I'm convinced that the rate of tyranny, and threat of intrusion, is designed to cause a reaction, to make us do something stupid. It sure feels like I could do something stupid, being more angry than a human can cope with. But that's when I smelt a troll, because that's a classic, and rather basic objective of your common troll; to farm your reaction, to infuriate you until incensed... the more subtle usually the better. What tptb are doing is a hatchet job but no doubt a carefully constructed barrage imo
happyuk
2nd August 2021, 19:54
So would a crisp "Bugger off!" work just as well?
It reminds me of anecdote of a lone fisherman who on receiving a visit from the Inland Revenue at his remote cottage shouted "I'm not a member!" and slammed his door shut.
I would like to see much more slamming of doors in faces.
bobme
2nd August 2021, 20:07
In my reality, the ones who push the vaccene are simply retarded. they truly are ignorant of the fact that the vaccine has no effect what so obviously is a ruse from idiots that havent the slightest idea of what they speak of.
the ones who mandate the shot for employment are the most retarded of the people alive. they are arrogant . witch is a form of total retardation .
sorry for being so blunt. but not so in reality.
ExomatrixTV
2nd August 2021, 20:18
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Dr-Vladimir-Zelenko (http://tinyurl.com/Dr-Vladimir-Zelenko)
Geert-Vanden-Bossche-2021 (http://tinyurl.com/Geert-Vanden-Bossche-2021)
Dr-Vernon-Coleman-2021 (http://tinyurl.com/Dr-Vernon-Coleman-2021)
Normalizing-Insanity (http://tinyurl.com/Normalizing-Insanity)
Violating-Bioethics-Laws-2021 (http://tinyurl.com/Violating-Bioethics-Laws-2021)
Have you seen this "COVID19 Patent" from 2015? Study this .gov link: nih.gov/patent/US-2020279585-A1 (https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/patent/US-2020279585-A1)
janette
2nd August 2021, 20:27
If it becomes a reality that they do come knocking I don't think I'd answer as I wouldn't be able too control the bubbling anger that would rise inside me. I have to work on controlling my anger but tis not easy in these times. Plus the wrong thing always comes out of my mouth when I'm annoyed and I look like a blithering idiot 🤐
thepainterdoug
2nd August 2021, 20:53
THANKS EXOMATRIX, I will look at all your links. I believe they will use fear which will work with many, and the informed and troublesome ones they will walk away from.
hold the fort
ExomatrixTV
2nd August 2021, 20:58
Imagine This Going Global:
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AutumnW
2nd August 2021, 21:05
A simple, "thanks but no thanks?" I think that would work. Unless they are jack booted practical nurses busting your door down. Then you might have to get tough. I recommend crying and begging for mercy.
Vicus
2nd August 2021, 21:19
Well, i m very interesting too, because outdoor peaceful Demonstration don't work anymore...
https://www.rt.com/news/530892-nils-melzer-berlin-police-violence/
jaybee
2nd August 2021, 21:24
In the UK I was given (conversational) advice to say "I'm still making up my mind", rather than "I do not consent". Trials ending in 2023 for most of them goes in my favour.
Yes.... maybe we could jolly that up a bit as well....
Like.... "I'm still making up my mind whether to have 50 billion lipid nano particles squirted into my bloodstream or have the Chimp virus infection injection (AstraZeneca)...."
:p
or maybe just have a recording of John McEnroe's famous 'You cannot be serious' handy and play it through the letter box...
sorry - I'm getting into a silly mood - :)
Vicus
2nd August 2021, 21:29
Bill, if you need any help in Spanish , i m very good at, whatever level documents, of curse for free.
haroldsails
2nd August 2021, 21:32
Matthew nailed it - be smart, be discrete, watch what you say.
Vicus
2nd August 2021, 22:39
police hate you at most, when you are smarter als them.
Henry Kissinger Quote about police : they are our dogs.
OmeyocaN777
2nd August 2021, 23:06
When we lost the election with Trump, I immediately understood that there is no one against their plans now and that it was a matter of time for everybody to take the vaccine by force...(and not only that)
I took it before 3 weeks because I realize I couldn't escape it and that I would have a problem with my work. I took that decision when I saw that they vaccinated their kids without any resistance...
If you could live out of the system then don't do it.
So, let's be realistic here.
The majority of humanity is still sleeping...
If you want to wait for some miracle...is your choice, I really hope so...
But when the time comes for the vaccine, when you couldn't avoid it anymore then...
Do your magic....as best you can, you already know that you are a creator, at least in your life.
Say everyday loud in you "I do not consent...they force it that upon me"
Clean your aura every day, bringing your inner light from the source...outside.
Try to clean your system as Kerry said here.
HOW TO REMOVE NANO FROM CHEMTRAILS AND COVID FROM YOUR BODY
https://projectcamelotportal.com/2021/08/01/how-to-remove-nano-from-chemtrails-and-covid-from-your-body/
And the last piece of advice...
I did the johnson...some doctor told me that is the only one that they made it with the old fashion way (who really knows about that?)
They have to try harder to take my soul...one-shot is not enough...
After 22 days now....I can say that I'm in 90% normal...but of course when 5g gonna hit the road....then who really knows? (300ghz??!!)
"The three ‘flavors’ of 5G are:
Low-band 5G spectrum, which operates at frequencies under 1 GHz, which are the oldest frequencies used for wireless communication.
Mid-band 5G spectrum, which uses frequencies from 1 GHz up to 10 GHz.
And high-band 5G spectrum, which uses between 24 and 300 GHz. These are called millimeter waves, and they’re ultra-high frequency radio signals which have never before been used for consumer applications."
https://www.shieldyourbody.com/5g-cell-towers/?fbclid=IwAR0pYfdhtLew-Oz9wqft_Tp_QvjjeAozFIh7Q9cH5mq8KTztNDdGQBsBD6w
Maybe their plan is as Kerry said to prepare us for AI.
Take a look after 24min
https://projectcamelotportal.com/2021/07/30/ghost-cyber-security-expert-guest-today/
I don't want to leave you with a sad note....so, maybe it's irrelevant to this thread...but from my research over the years is straight to the point for truth seekers and hopeful...to understand your inner power!!!
KAW5FOXmZjc
Be strong
Take care
Arcturian108
2nd August 2021, 23:22
If you know that people are coming to your neighborhood in advance, have a professional looking sign saying "Covid Quarantine". That should keep them at bay.
amor
3rd August 2021, 00:12
It is shocking to hear about the Nazi Australian Government edicts against the people. I believe the Alien Powers that Be are using it as an Experiment. The results will prompt them to try it on us next. Disarmed, christian and ethical people have no chance against Armed Nazi Boots breaking down your door intent on murdering you, which is what this roll out of poisons will do. They intend to murder the entire human race from young infants, pregnant women, elderly well and infirm and everyone in between. They have been mind-controlled to believe that their turn will not be NEXT. Time to grab these by the balls and twist.
Satori
3rd August 2021, 00:12
Don’t answer the door. They will eventually go away.
If you must answer the door, be polite.
Have them stay at the door or porch and keep your screen or glass door closed. If you don’t have such a door, either stand at the door with it ajar or step out of the house onto the porch or your apartment into the hallway. Put your foot at the base of the door if it is ajar so that it cannot be pushed opened.
Do not let them into your home. Period. DO NOT LET THEM IN. That opens a whole new can of worms you don’t want to deal with.
If you say anything, it should be something to the effect that you are in compliance with all lawful directives and other laws. Say “no thank you” as needed.
Your goal is to get them to leave, but, ideally, also check you off the list and not come back—Either them, or someone like them, and certainly not the next level of goons who may believe they can use more intimidation or even force.
Also, whoever comes to your door is very likely to be underpaid, frightened, and ignorant of what their mission is and how to go about doing what they’ve been told to set out to do. They will lack experience and will be groping for what to say and do.
Again, be polite. They can be disarmed by being pleasant to them. They will be more inclined to yield and leave.
If need be lie to them like we are being lied to. Tell the person(s) that regardless of what their records show, there is a mistake. The records are outdated. You have received the vaccine.
Or, better yet perhaps, say you are exempt due to medical conditions that make the vaccine contraindicated for you and possibly lethal. That is true for everyone, by the way. If their records don’t show that, there is a mistake.
Say you have been advised by your doctor that you cannot take the shot. Assure them that you believe that they would not want to be responsible for you becoming seriously ill or worse.
By being polite and saying there is a mistake and/or you are exempt they will question their mission and just how far they can or should go to try to get you to take the jab.
Again, your goal is to get them to check you off the list such that no one comes back.
Denise/Dizi
3rd August 2021, 00:30
For the first time ever, I am getting pressure from both my Dr. AND the extended family to get the vaccine. Why? Because the hubby got Covid. I am sitting home now, my day off, knowing I will not be returning to work for another week, as that was around the time that he was exposed. We have had three weeks of town events in which people gathered in mass, in celebration of their freedom from lockdowns.
I refuse to get tested. Would rather go through getting the virus. At least then I wouldn't be taking a "Non Vaccine vaccination jab"... I have been playing nurse for the past week, in between working myself... and quite frankly, I am tired of the rouse.
The "Annual Flu" has all but disappeared.. (Just been given a new name with hints of financial gain for anyone who labels it "CoVid".. The PCR test given my husband wasn't for CoVid19, but rather SARS Cov 2. With (Covid 19) listed after that true title.
If that isn't a sham I do not know what is. Testing for Co V 2 or SARS, which has already run amuck, and telling people they're being testing for COVID, is a deriliction of duty in my opinion, a play on words.... semantics.
I haven't found the answers yet, but I do know if my Dr. tries to force a fake vaccine on me, I will find a new Dr. And if someone tries to force me into it, they will come up on me fighting it all the way..
This has gone on long enough.
oz93666
3rd August 2021, 00:50
People on this forum really should not have a front door for the authorities to knock on ! ..This has not happened overnight , truthers have known this was coming for decades , so if you are living in a populated area , where there are streets and front doors you have chosen to put yourselves on the front line ...
It's still not too late ! whichever country you live in there are remote areas .... THERE IS STILL FOOD IN THE SUPERMARKETS !!! So these are the good times , when you have a full stomach !! and you have electricity ...! So you don't want to look back on these times and say " if only I'd got out when I could , if only I'd bought food and solar panels!"
I do not see the vaccine as the main threat , nor is catching covid a danger , the collapse of society is.
pyrangello
3rd August 2021, 00:56
Oz93 yeah remember what Kissinger said,control the money and control a country, control the food and control the people.your spot on .
Yeah dizi I, if your taking care of your husband and you end up not catching this virus chances are you have had it already and have the antibodies. Myself and my wife had this crap 3 to 4 years ago, I kept saying what is this shxt for a week. My wife couldn't breathe for 3 days and I wasn't much better. We both rode it out for a week. .........not worried at all now, even that Scott gobblied said he believes over 30% of Americans have the antibodies without the jab, but then again who believes any of the numbers coming out.
As for answering the door, get some pepper and take a snort, start sneezing before you answer the door, rub your eyes with some hot peppers , just a dab , put a wet towel above your head and answer the door sneezing, tell them you have the covid , you can't get a shot for 6 months once you have Been infected. And I highly doubt anybody at the door will want to get close to you either. You may want to do a test run prior. And that will be that.
If you really want to bold walk onto the front porch with more pepper in your hand so you can take another snort and start really sneezing right on them. Or just hang a sign on your front door currently sick with covid, stay away.
thepainterdoug
3rd August 2021, 04:11
the vaccine and its potential health threat is one thing, the forcing this on a person who doesnt want it, whatever the reason, is the crime in my mind
Patient
3rd August 2021, 04:29
For the first time ever, I am getting pressure from both my Dr. AND the extended family to get the vaccine. Why? Because the hubby got Covid. I am sitting home now, my day off, knowing I will not be returning to work for another week, as that was around the time that he was exposed. We have had three weeks of town events in which people gathered in mass, in celebration of their freedom from lockdowns.
I refuse to get tested. Would rather go through getting the virus. At least then I wouldn't be taking a "Non Vaccine vaccination jab"... I have been playing nurse for the past week, in between working myself... and quite frankly, I am tired of the rouse.
The "Annual Flu" has all but disappeared.. (Just been given a new name with hints of financial gain for anyone who labels it "CoVid".. The PCR test given my husband wasn't for CoVid19, but rather SARS Cov 2. With (Covid 19) listed after that true title.
If that isn't a sham I do not know what is. Testing for Co V 2 or SARS, which has already run amuck, and telling people they're being testing for COVID, is a deriliction of duty in my opinion, a play on words.... semantics.
I haven't found the answers yet, but I do know if my Dr. tries to force a fake vaccine on me, I will find a new Dr. And if someone tries to force me into it, they will come up on me fighting it all the way..
This has gone on long enough.
Long enough indeed!
One thing that many people seem to have forgotten is how fast a flu/cold bug spreads when the season hits.
I remember - year after year - you would hear about a bad flu going through the other side of the world and 5-10 days later it is in your neighbourhood! People are flying around the world constantly and spreading cold and flu bugs. Then maybe you get sic and go through it for a week and done.
Makes me wonder how covid-19 could continue going and going....of course not!
Imagine if we had true data - how many different cold and flu variants have we dealt with already? A good number I would bet.
Antagenet
3rd August 2021, 05:45
And if someone tries to force me into it, they will come up on me fighting it all the way..
This has gone on long enough.
I plan to answer the door with a machete in hand.
Tyy1907
3rd August 2021, 07:38
It's at our door in other ways as well already, this forum is being messed with as we speak. I just tried posting a thread with excerpts from the Lost Jesus scroll, took me 15 minutes to tap type, then it "took forum too long to respond" and it was all gone. We're in the quick sand already it's just done so cleverly not many even stop to notice or think. Keep inviting and asking for help from the higher realms!
Mod note from Bill:
No, the forum isn't being messed with. Don't worry! Please see this post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95686-FIXED-Browser-warnings-that-Avalon-is-insecure&p=1440024&viewfull=1#post1440024
Tommy (our senior admin) is aware of the problem, and it may need a 12 hour shut-down for him to fix it totally. After fixing an issue with the security certificate, he reported:
"When I updated the SSL tools and management software it also forced some other system updates to a good chunk of components. From what it appears so far it’s related to how our PHP interpreter bridge (old php to new php) is handling its workload. I am investigating the version changes and looking for the culprit. I also have an idea brewing for an automated yet temporary fix. I’ll keep you posted"
Mike Gorman
3rd August 2021, 08:47
In my reality, the ones who push the vaccene are simply retarded. they truly are ignorant of the fact that the vaccine has no effect what so obviously is a ruse from idiots that havent the slightest idea of what they speak of.
the ones who mandate the shot for employment are the most retarded of the people alive. they are arrogant . witch is a form of total retardation .
sorry for being so blunt. but not so in reality.
Quite so, I agree with you. The people they conscript for this kind of door-to-door work are the 'useful idiots' we hear so much about, they are willing missionaries who believe absolutely in the merit of what they are doing, to them you represent either an apathetic urban dweller, or a benighted malicious actor who is unaware of science, and medical matters: this is how they are scripted also, the level of language the bureaucrats employ to 'inform' the public is incredibly patronising and insulting.
I advocate just being appropriately assertive: "Thank you for your interest, I have made my own arrangements for this, I do not require official intervention, I wish you a good day'.
Something like this, we don't need to be rude or aggressive, nor do we have to reveal our philosophy, they are servants of another master, send them on their way.
Merkaba360
3rd August 2021, 08:59
yea, I guess they do have the burden of the offensive. Need to change us, socially engineer us, get us to comply and get enough people to push their agenda for them.
Demonstrations are us on the offense, and their defense is to ignore us. So, i guess in many ways that is what we do as well. I think its the movie Tron, where the best solution is to do nothing. Boycott is more powerful, its more like this ignore them and go avoid buying their stuff and doing what they want. Ultimately, we win if evryone, including the police, military, masses looks at them like lunatics and doesnt acknowledge their authority as a Banana Republic.
Of course as Bucky Fuller said something like "Don't fight against the system, create a new one, making the old obsolete." So, as we ignore their offense, by doing nothing.....Our offense is to be creative and build new things/systems that are more to our advantage than theirs.
Bubu
3rd August 2021, 09:22
the zombies and dogs dont recognize reason. They think they are doing something righteous and legal. So counter it with legality. Say something like "my lawyer said its unlawful to force people.." because it really is in almost all democratic country. Especial / emergency powers cannot supersede constitution. If they persist maybe call a friend lawyer and let him talk to them. Of course you have to tell the friend in advance
Tyy1907
3rd August 2021, 11:59
Even our elected officials where I live try and shame the unvaccinated, saying they're the problem. Completely sidestepping their rights of choice. The manipulation is so blatant now.
tendril
3rd August 2021, 15:19
Gosh 'wrarrr' this topic is so itchy!
When first learning about the idea of this happening, ohhh I was furious, as in, loaded gun in the face of one who would even dare!!
After thinking it through a little. Now I am with the more low key and contained folks. While it's still furious within, that does not need to be registered with what will certainly be a recorded event by the parties invading. I'm with the person who spoke about front doors in the city, it bugs me to the core and I do think on the matter frequently, get the hell out of the city and make a door that is only known to those who need to know. I mean I have had dreams on how to creatively change this with the front door.
@Dizi I am sad for your husband, and you. Pressure from others is utterly unforgivable when in the middle of a crisis. I would change up the Dr. personally, no matter. As it's clear where the judgement lies and at what point will that end?
It's an awful flu. I am sure my family had it in the winter of 2019. I am far more concerned about the long term psychology on everyone around all the horrible fallout from the division of thought. (which emerged with Bernie Sanders in the previous 2012 election, what a destructive time that was) I have all my family which took the shot. I don't think anyone of them are a bad or stupid person. I am more fearful of the long term consequences. I have family that I've told I have not had nor ever will have a shot. There are young children which I am so concerned about the long term ramifcations of all this on their lives. Mostly, it's deeply concerning as I watch my adult child, who lives with me, swirl in a pit and pendulum mindset, on things from dating to getting a job. That's my ultimate concern, the entire thing is about division and what does that mean for us all?
rgray222
3rd August 2021, 15:29
Even our elected officials where I live try and shame the unvaccinated, saying they're the problem. Completely sidestepping their rights of choice. The manipulation is so blatant now.
Attempting to shame people into getting vaccinated is wrong on so many levels. First off it doesn't work, anyone who has children knows this. Secondly, no one should be coerced into taking an experimental drug. Third, this is a dividing mechanism, not a unifying strategy. Fourth, this is a control issue which is a pretty serious character flaw. Fifth, this behaviour makes the shammer look childish and petulant.
The way I have been dealing with it is to ask the people (on social media or in person) if they have been shaming people for not taking the flu shot. The anwer is alway NO. So my response has been............so you have found a level of suffering and death that is acceptable to you. This seems to anger people but it also seems to stop them from shaming in regards to the vaccine.
Mark (Star Mariner)
3rd August 2021, 16:05
Ah, the coming of the "Jeh-covid Witnesses."
(opens door)
"Hello. Oh, I see. Hmm. No I'm not interested. Thank-you. Goodbye."
(closes door)
Denise/Dizi
3rd August 2021, 19:42
In America we have laws that are supposed to keep patient confidentiality first and foremost, however this is being sidestepped on a grand scale. When my husband was tested, they gave him a "Test Number". Before he even got the results back, he began to get unsolicited text alerts on his phone from many different places.
Those getting the vaccines are being given documents, as they give to children when their parents have them vaccinated prior to entering schools. First they should never be asked to provide these, as the patients have rights under the HIPPA laws, that should protect their medical information from being accessed. I have been working in the public the entire time this was going on, and I actually have customers asking if they can come into the shop without a mask, claiming, "I GOT MY VACCINES"
People willingly sharing their own information that was rightfully protected under personal privacy laws prior. It boggles my mind. These people believe that they are somehow now unable to get CoVid, when the truth is they were still required to wear masks after getting the shots, as it didn't prevent it at all, but supposedly dampened the symptoms should they get the virus.
I am not "Anti-Vax" in any way. I believe proper vaccines do have a place in society, I have met people that had Polio, and they're severely crippled. I have had the Chicken Pox, and I am aware that Shingles may appear later in life as a result of having gotten the Chicken Pox as a child, but everyone had them when I was young.
We now have ads on television suggesting parents should immunize their young daughters against HPV, and many other things. To prevent this and that, and I firmly believe the pharmaceutical industry has gotten out of hand.
The Dr.s never once told my husband how to better treat his symptoms, nutrients, vitamins, minerals, or anything else, just told him to go to the hospital should he feel worse. What a sham. When I felt icky last year, I went through my medicine cabinet and hit all the regular minerals and vitamins I miss most of the time, and made sure they were topped off. And I ended up just fine. I think what we're seeing is massive malnutrition on a large scale, as people eat fast foods, do not get the vitamins and minerals their bodies need, and as a result a common illness turns into an epidemic.
Add to that the financial rewards for labeling anything co-v and the numbers are far from accurate, especially when they're testing for a different rna strand and calling it CoVid 19! People need to wake up..
As far as someone coming to the door to force shots onto people? I doubt it will happen, as most are willingly complying, and the majority is what they wanted to hit. They must have known not everyone would take the jab or get sick. I prefer herd immunity. The old way, not some RNA modifying agent with lord knows what inside of it. This is a start, of something to come. Get all the newborns at birth, and add to that the older people that they missed along the way as technology advances.
I am waiting to see what new class action lawsuits will appear after the dust settles. And while most are willingly taking the job, few realize that they have immunity from any kind of responsibility for what they were introducing into our populations. It should get interesting real soon.
In America? Many still believe in their right to bear arms.
Victoria
3rd August 2021, 20:00
"And if someone tries to force me into it, they will come up on me fighting it all the way..."
I'm with you, Denise.
"People on this forum really should not have a front door for the authorities to knock on ! ..This has not happened overnight , truthers have known this was coming for decades , so if you are living in a populated area , where there are streets and front doors you have chosen to put yourselves on the front line ..." Exactly, Oz.
I have Jehovah's Witness friends who never fail to remind us that we are not doing the "right thing" by keeping our property gates locked at all times. Apparently, the "right thing" according to them, is to invite people openly and always be welcoming to whatever comes. My retort is that while I love them to pieces, we literally have dangerous dogs and it is our responsibility to protect the public from being harmed via locked gates and ample signage warning of such. Their response to this has been that we do a disservice by keeping dangerous dogs and blocking the flow of God's message to and from us.
Oh well.
Constitutional infringement makes my thoughts and entire energetic being mirror portions of this song... https://youtu.be/No6WjgxpDxw
If it gets so far that authorities find their way to our house (and since there is only one road up providing ample warning and time before anyone arrives), then a group of dogs, neighbors and heavily armed friends (who have networked for just this kind of eventuality) would await, all of us willing to die defending every man's right to say "NO" to unconstitutional authority and enforcement.
I don't know how far all of this will go, but I know how far it could go...and I would say right now is the time to make connections with people who share your concerns, secure your perimeter walls or fencing, reinforce your doors and windows, test your cameras and recording devices, or strategically install some if you don't have any. Cameras can be the best alibi in any situation. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best, be patient and polite along the way and plan to stand your ground if it comes down to that.
Tyy1907
4th August 2021, 04:02
Another approach, the Ghandi method. Nonviolent resistance and stating ones wishes to choose freely whether they want the shot or not.
That being said, the Covid campaign did not have the desired outcome that was hoped for by tptb. So the passport nonsense could fizzle out. We can thank our greater selves up in the divine realm for this outcome as it was the prayers of the many that mitigated this. Ask and you shall receive.
ExomatrixTV
4th August 2021, 18:33
Another approach, the Gandhi method. Nonviolent resistance and stating ones wishes to choose freely whether they want the shot or not.
That being said, the Covid campaign did not have the desired outcome that was hoped for by tptb. So the passport nonsense could fizzle out. We can thank our greater selves up in the divine realm for this outcome as it was the prayers of the many that mitigated this. Ask and you shall receive.
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thepainterdoug
4th August 2021, 19:06
so perhaps it was my fault for being late to my own dance here, but I was hoping for some more info that was more directly usable
here is one form, not sure where I got it. what do you think?
I will begin to add more.
LEGAL NOTICE
TO: ____________________________ Date: _____________________
By authority of the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation, I do hereby exercise my right to refuse to submit to or to administer the Covid 19 experimental gene therapy injection heretofore known as the “Covid 19 Vaccine.”
The United States Government has extraterritorially prosecuted, convicted and executed Medical Doctors who have violated the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation. Aiders and abettors of Nuremberg Crimes are equally guilty and have also been prosecuted, convicted and executed.
Every court of law in any location has original jurisdiction (Universal) to hear and try Crimes Against Humanity; and violations of the Nuremberg Code are classified as Crimes Against Humanity, which carry a maximum penalty of Death.
You are hereby put on NOTICE that any further effort to coerce, intimidate, persuade, trick or compel me to receive any experimental gene therapy injection (“Covid Vaccine”) or any other medical device, drug or procedure against my will, implicates you as aiding and abetting in the Capital Offense of a Crime Against Humanity. I hereby reserve my rights to swear to a criminal complaint against you in the nearest available law enforcement agency or court of law. I do not contract with you in any way and expressly deny any contractual relationship with you.
I hereby reserve my rights and put you on NOTICE that you may also be liable for civil damages under various Tort claims including but not limited to: negligence, fraud (in the Inducement), Assault, Battery, Intentional Inflication of Emotional Distress, Loss of Consortium, Trespass and Products Liability. You are hereby notified of potential liability and this NOTICE shall serve as actual NOTICE in support of these claims.
Delivered to: _____________________________ (name of person on notice) BY HAND DELIVERY
Badge Number (other ID) ______________________ (medical or law enforcementm if applicable) from _________________________________ (agency, facility or hospital)
on this _______ day of 20___ at: _______________________________ (place) at ____:______ AM/PM By: __________________________________ (Complainant/You)
***Please complete the empty sections and hand deliver this NOTICE to the individual seeking to cause the injection (or other coercive act) and take a picture of both this completed NOTICE and the person you delivered it to and file a copy of this completed notice with your nearest Law Enforcement office, County Registrar, County Court, District Attoreny, Attorney General and your legal counsel. Please be aware that some states require all parties to a conversation be aware that your interactions are being recorded and as such, you should inform all people present that you are recoding pictures, audio and/or video of your interaction. Please keep all such recordings/pictures for evidence and take notes about the circumstances while it is fresh in your memory. All of this may be used as evidence or support for you claim.
thepainterdoug
4th August 2021, 19:22
REGARDING HIPPA LAWS/ read and see the exemptions!
Who Must Follow These Laws
We call the entities that must follow the HIPAA regulations "covered entities."
Covered entities include:
Health Plans, including health insurance companies, HMOs, company health plans, and certain government programs that pay for health care, such as Medicare and Medicaid.
Most Health Care Providers—those that conduct certain business electronically, such as electronically billing your health insurance—including most doctors, clinics, hospitals, psychologists, chiropractors, nursing homes, pharmacies, and dentists.
Health Care Clearinghouses—entities that process nonstandard health information they receive from another entity into a standard (i.e., standard electronic format or data content), or vice versa.
In addition, business associates of covered entities must follow parts of the HIPAA regulations.
Often, contractors, subcontractors, and other outside persons and companies that are not employees of a covered entity will need to have access to your health information when providing services to the covered entity. We call these entities “business associates.” Examples of business associates include:
Companies that help your doctors get paid for providing health care, including billing companies and companies that process your health care claims
Companies that help administer health plans
People like outside lawyers, accountants, and IT specialists
Companies that store or destroy medical records
Covered entities must have contracts in place with their business associates, ensuring that they use and disclose your health information properly and safeguard it appropriately. Business associates must also have similar contracts with subcontractors. Business associates (including subcontractors) must follow the use and disclosure provisions of their contracts and the Privacy Rule, and the safeguard requirements of the Security Rule.
Who Is Not Required to Follow These Laws
Many organizations that have health information about you do not have to follow these laws.
Examples of organizations that do not have to follow the Privacy and Security Rules include:
Life insurers
Employers
Workers compensation carriers
Most schools and school districts
Many state agencies like child protective service agencies
Most law enforcement agencies
Many municipal offices
What Information Is Protected
Information your doctors, nurses, and other health care providers put in your medical record
Conversations your doctor has about your care or treatment with nurses and others
Information about you in your health insurer’s computer system
Billing information about you at your clinic
Most other health information about you held by those who must follow these laws
How This Information Is Protected
Covered entities must put in place safeguards to protect your health information and ensure they do not use or disclose your health information improperly.
Covered entities must reasonably limit uses and disclosures to the minimum necessary to accomplish their intended purpose.
Covered entities must have procedures in place to limit who can view and access your health information as well as implement training programs for employees about how to protect your health information.
Business associates also must put in place safeguards to protect your health information and ensure they do not use or disclose your health information improperly.
What Rights Does the Privacy Rule Give Me over My Health Information?
Health insurers and providers who are covered entities must comply with your right to:
Ask to see and get a copy of your health records
Have corrections added to your health information
Receive a notice that tells you how your health information may be used and shared
Decide if you want to give your permission before your health information can be used or shared for certain purposes, such as for marketing
Get a report on when and why your health information was shared for certain purposes
If you believe your rights are being denied or your health information isn’t being protected, you can
File a complaint with your provider or health insurer
File a complaint with HHS
You should get to know these important rights, which help you protect your health information.
You can ask your provider or health insurer questions about your rights.
Learn more about your health information privacy rights - PDF.
Who Can Look at and Receive Your Health Information
The Privacy Rule sets rules and limits on who can look at and receive your health information
To make sure that your health information is protected in a way that does not interfere with your health care, your information can be used and shared:
For your treatment and care coordination
To pay doctors and hospitals for your health care and to help run their businesses
With your family, relatives, friends, or others you identify who are involved with your health care or your health care bills, unless you object
To make sure doctors give good care and nursing homes are clean and safe
To protect the public's health, such as by reporting when the flu is in your area
To make required reports to the police, such as reporting gunshot wounds
Your health information cannot be used or shared without your written permission unless this law allows it. For example, without your authorization, your provider generally cannot:
Give your information to your employer
Use or share your information for marketing or advertising purposes or sell your information
Satori
4th August 2021, 19:49
so perhaps it was my fault for being late to my own dance here, but I was hoping for some more info that was more directly usable
here is one form, not sure where I got it. what do you think?
I will begin to add more.
LEGAL NOTICE
TO: ____________________________ Date: _____________________
By authority of the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation, I do hereby exercise my right to refuse to submit to or to administer the Covid 19 experimental gene therapy injection heretofore known as the “Covid 19 Vaccine.”
The United States Government has extraterritorially prosecuted, convicted and executed Medical Doctors who have violated the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation. Aiders and abettors of Nuremberg Crimes are equally guilty and have also been prosecuted, convicted and executed.
Every court of law in any location has original jurisdiction (Universal) to hear and try Crimes Against Humanity; and violations of the Nuremberg Code are classified as Crimes Against Humanity, which carry a maximum penalty of Death.
You are hereby put on NOTICE that any further effort to coerce, intimidate, persuade, trick or compel me to receive any experimental gene therapy injection (“Covid Vaccine”) or any other medical device, drug or procedure against my will, implicates you as aiding and abetting in the Capital Offense of a Crime Against Humanity. I hereby reserve my rights to swear to a criminal complaint against you in the nearest available law enforcement agency or court of law. I do not contract with you in any way and expressly deny any contractual relationship with you.
I hereby reserve my rights and put you on NOTICE that you may also be liable for civil damages under various Tort claims including but not limited to: negligence, fraud (in the Inducement), Assault, Battery, Intentional Inflication of Emotional Distress, Loss of Consortium, Trespass and Products Liability. You are hereby notified of potential liability and this NOTICE shall serve as actual NOTICE in support of these claims.
Delivered to: _____________________________ (name of person on notice) BY HAND DELIVERY
Badge Number (other ID) ______________________ (medical or law enforcementm if applicable) from _________________________________ (agency, facility or hospital)
on this _______ day of 20___ at: _______________________________ (place) at ____:______ AM/PM By: __________________________________ (Complainant/You)
***Please complete the empty sections and hand deliver this NOTICE to the individual seeking to cause the injection (or other coercive act) and take a picture of both this completed NOTICE and the person you delivered it to and file a copy of this completed notice with your nearest Law Enforcement office, County Registrar, County Court, District Attoreny, Attorney General and your legal counsel. Please be aware that some states require all parties to a conversation be aware that your interactions are being recorded and as such, you should inform all people present that you are recoding pictures, audio and/or video of your interaction. Please keep all such recordings/pictures for evidence and take notes about the circumstances while it is fresh in your memory. All of this may be used as evidence or support for you claim.
I'm not trying to be a naysayer or negative, but you might as well put a target on your back, or rather, your arm. The people who want you to take the poison do not care about what is in this notice and will not read it.
Look into the religious exemption approach to avoiding the jab.
I intend to avoid the jab if they try to force it on me by telling them to go do you know what.... And its coming. The University of New Mexico just announced it requires all faculty, staff, employees and students to take the poison. The full NM government, including courts, may soon require the jab for all employees as well as the public who seek access to a government building.
There is no lawful authority for any of this, but they do not care. It's time to take a stand and say "NO!".
pyrangello
4th August 2021, 20:47
So the Hippa laws here in the states forbid you to find out a persons medical condition in disclosure to anyone. My buddy who is a surgeon did surgery on a little girl for 5 hours to get her stable once so she could be shipped to another hospital for specialized surgery. After he shipped her he called to find out how she was doing at the other hospital and they would not tell him due to the hippa laws , its a federal law. Nobody should be able to ask you anything medically as its against the law. Evidentially this law means nothing anymore .
Had another buddy come visit me today , he's not getting the jab , his daughter works for a very big hospital in Detroit, well guess what is happening now, the government told the hospital that everyone that works there has to get vaccinated or they loose all funding from the feds, so this is how they are going to do this , any entity getting funding will be leveraged now. Lets face it the voluntary phase is over of all who wanted the shots. This past Saturday I forced myself to watch the major morning news, first 25 minutes were dedicated to fear of the virus, ICU patients, the news uses % when the people total doesn't justify the story. In the next 1/2 hour segment they dedicated a 12 minute story to pandemic anxiety , Really????
The push is now before this fall flu season, I remember 10 years ago when I was helping campaign for an independent. We came to a door of a gentlemen who answered the door with a sidearm gun in its holster, he said " If your a republican or democrat get off my porch". We said independent and he then invited us in.
This Hagmann report details this all out where were headed, its long but worth the watch/listen and deals directly with this thread.
The Pandemic Was Always the Cover For What’s Coming | The Hagmann Report (FULL SHOW) 8/3/2021
https://www.hagmannreport.com/the-pandemic-was-always-the-cover-for-whats-coming-the-hagmann-report-full-show-8-3-2021/
Even Doug Hagmann said in his show, there are way more people who have not taken this experimental shot than have and the numbers being supplied to us via the news are bogus. This really will be a time when a stand is made, during the time of calm is time for you to determine " What are you prepared to do? ".
EarthGirl
4th August 2021, 21:00
Oh Wow... I missed this thread, I haven't read all the posts but in my world it's unlikely to get to my door... Yet... Not for years, they will be far to busy 'bullying and coercing' folk that live in 'their smart cities' to be bothered with the likes of me... way out in the sticks at the end of the road... so to speak... Even though houses that come on the market are selling like "hot cakes" due to our rural location and many at our 'stand in the park' are folk that had a 'sixth sense' and got out of 'dodge' quick...
FEAR is all they are interested in... That's it!...
They will push out all sorts of figures, numbers, death rates, etc, etc... They literally have nothing left! x
Dorjezigzag
4th August 2021, 22:31
You have to have faith and let god work through you.
There is no one size fits all there are many factors, your personality and physicality and likewise the callers. If you can keep it short and sweet, this is the best option the less you give them the better but if this is unavoidable deflection, randomness and being painfully boring can be effective tools to get them to leave sharpish. always try to keep it light and make them like you. This is not the time for evangelising. we are entering the territory of espionage.
I tried to find a derren Brown clip where he explains the best way that you can deal with a verbal attack is to reply with something really surreal and random. Dont be afraid to take the talking matter into something really light and off topic.
Here's another Derren Brown clip showing just what is possible with the mind.
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Jedi mind tricks even better!
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thepainterdoug
4th August 2021, 23:34
Thanks Everyone
Im not concerned for myself , Im just trying to help my son and his friends who need answers, who dont follow all that we do follow here at Avalon.
As for myself. will button my lip and not answer the door or say a word.
Victoria
5th August 2021, 02:50
Doug,
This was and is a wonderfully helpful idea for a thread. It kind of took off in several directions. I'm sorry that I, too, did not read your OP fully before responding.
Maybe we can divide it into two threads (?) since so many people have weighted thoughts, opinions and emotions tied in with the subject matter?
A discussion thread could even funnel into a methods thread with anything being proposed of good value?
For example, they could be:
Being ready when it gets to our door: Ongoing Discussion
Being ready when it gets to our door: Legal Forms, Practical Tips and Specific Methods to Protect Oneself
??
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thepainterdoug
5th August 2021, 04:16
VICTORIA
THAT WOULD BE GREAT PLEASE DO SO. HERE IS A GREAT FORM FROM AMERICAS FRONTLINE DOCTORS
To: Mr./Mrs. Pharmacist/Nurse/Doctor/Vaccine Administer From: ConcernedCitizen
Date: June 28, 2021
Re: Informed Consent
NOTICE OF POTENTIAL LIABILITY FOR LACK OF INFORMED CONSENT WHEN ADMINISTERING COVID-19 VACCINES (“GENE THERAPY”)
I. THE TEN POINTS OF THE NUREMBERG PRINCIPLES
1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.
2. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
3. The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results will justify the performance of the experiment.
4. The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
5. No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.
6. The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
7. Proper preparations should be made, and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
8. The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
9. During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.
10. During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
Any compulsory Covid-19 vaccination requirement is a violation of federal law. I urge you to advise all vaccine recipients that they have the right to refuse or to take any COVID-19 vaccine. Any other action is contrary to federal law.
II. Covid-19 Vaccines are Experimental and Require Informed Consent
Covid-19 vaccines are not approved by the FDA. The Covid-19 vaccines are only approved under an Emergency Use Authorization, for investigational use only.1 Covid-19 vaccines lack requisite studies and are not approved medical treatment. The FDA’s guidance on emergency use authorization of medical products requires the FDA to “ensure that recipients are informed to the extent practicable given the applicable circumstances ... That they have the option to accept or refuse the EUA product ...”2
Title 21, Section 360bbb-3 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the “FD&C Act”) vests the Secretary of Health and Human Services with the permissive authority to grant Emergency Use Authorizations (“EUAs”) providing that appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed:
1. that the Secretary has authorized the emergency use of the product;
2. of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and
3. of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks. 1
The right to avoid the imposition of human experimentation is fundamental, rooted in the Nuremberg Code of 1947, has been ratified by the 1964 Declaration of Helsinki, and further codified in the United States Code of Federal Regulations. In addition to the United States regarding itself as bound by these provisions, these principles were adopted by the FDA in its regulations requiring the informed consent of human subjects for medical research. It is unlawful to conduct medical research, even in the case of an emergency, unless steps are taken to secure informed consent of all participants.3
Vaccine administers, such as yourself, Mr./Mrs. (doctor, nurse, pharmacist, misc. health care worker) have an obligation to inform participants of the adverse events and death which has occurred from these Covid-19 vaccines.
• “potential benefits and risks” of the Covid vaccines, AND
• Of “the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown;” AND
• “of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product,” AND
• “of the alternatives to the vaccine that are available and of their benefits and risks.” 1
III. Vaccine Administers have Duty to Inform Recipients of Known and Unknown Risks of the Covid-19 Vacines
• Based on VAERS as of June 16, 2021, there have been 5,993 deaths reported,4 and 358,379 adverse events related to the Covid-19 vaccines.5
• By comparison, from July 1, 1997, until December 31, 2013, VAERS received 666 adult death reports for all vaccines.6
• In 1976, the US government halted the rollout of the experimental swine flu vaccine for 25 deaths after 55 million people were inoculated.
• The FDA and these pharmaceutical companies allow children 12 years and older to receive this vaccine, however children were never studied in this trial. Never before in history have we given medications that were not FDA approved to people who were not initially studied in the trial. There were no trial patients under the age of 18! They’re extrapolating the data from adults down to children and adolescents. This is not acceptable. Children are not little adults. Children have 99.997% survivability from the covid.
• The CDC’s Advisory Committee is meeting in June to address the higher number of observed than expected myocarditis/pericarditis cases in 16–24-year-olds.”7 This is inflammation of the heart. There is no such thing as a “mild case” of heart inflammation.
• Brain injuries after the COVID-19 vaccines are increasingly being reported. Search the federal government VAERS Database for any diagnostic term such as “dementia” or “Bell’s Palsy” or “brain bleeding,” sadly the numbers are rising daily.8
• A study published by the renowned Cleveland Clinic in Ohio indicates that natural immunity acquired through prior infection with COVID-19 is stronger than any benefit conferred by a Vaccine. People that have had Covid in the past and are now recovered, have a much stronger (10-20x) 6 antibody response to the vaccine. The response is much too strong and overwhelms the person's health system. Medical studies show severe side effects post vaccination in those persons with prior infection of Covid, including life- threatening harm to plaintiffs.9 10 Health professionals have never blanket administered vaccines without checking for titers first (Hep B, MMR, Varicella, etc.). You must exclude vaccinating persons who already had the infection for which the inoculation is being considered.11
• Pregnant persons were not studied in the initial Covid-19 vaccine trials. As such, the risks/benefits are unknown. The mere fact that there are unknown risks needs to be communicated to each vaccine recipient.
Please consider this an official notice that you may be personally liable for injuries sustained by individuals from these vaccines should you refuse to inform your vaccine recipients of these risks. Any pressure, coercion, or threat of reprisal constitutes reckless endangerment and has a reasonable expectation of causing personal injury resulting in damages. Throughout world history, “I just did my job” has never been a defense to forced medical experimentation (or medicine intentionally lacking informed consent).
1 Title 21, Section 360bbb-3 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the “FD&C Act”) 2 https://www.fda.gov/media/97321/download
3 21 CFR § 50.24
4 https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
5 https://www.openvaers.com/covid- data?fbclid=IwAR1LBbvL_banBKlvSBDZh7VJsvTYvKyZzzdcJFq5bqc_xAu0LOlOvVXNyZQ
6 Exhibit 5. Pedro L. Moro, Jorge Arana, Mria Cano, Paige Lewis, and Tom T. Shimabukuro, Deaths Reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, United States, 1997-2013, VACCINES, CID 2015:61 (September 2015).
7 https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-teens-vaccinated-pfizer-moderna-higher-risk-heart- inflammation/
8 https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html June 2, 2021
9 https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210511/Severe-COVID-19-linked-to-genetic-clotting-predisposition.aspx 10 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.04.21256617v1.full.pdf
11 https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/hcp/answering-questions.html
Blastolabs
5th August 2021, 08:13
I will simply not open my door?
What good comes from engagement at all?
betoobig
5th August 2021, 19:04
FOr spanish people i can provide legal papers and how to decline the vaccine as well as protection for the kids. We have created an association to do so, specialy protecting the kids. It is called ALAS Asociación por la Libertad, el Amor y la SOberanía. We are in telegram @alas.
I also have the goverment information admiting that the vaccine is a GMO. whoever likes to be inform there´s no problem.... in the age of acuarius ignorance is but a choice.
Much love
Bill Ryan
5th August 2021, 19:45
VICTORIA
THAT WOULD BE GREAT PLEASE DO SO. I took the liberty of changing the thread title to Practical actions if the vaccine team comes to your door. (It's always easy for mods to change thread titles, even in a tiny way.) If this isn't the best title, just let us know! :)
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wondering
5th August 2021, 20:02
To my way of thinking, keeping the lowest possible profile would be the best idea. I don't think I would want them to remember me because I took a very defensive stance right out of the box. If I could keep my wits about me, depending upon when they came and whether I was expecting them, smiling a lot and appearing stupid might work better. On some days, this would be a no brainer for me!! 😂😂 I don't think I would want to hand them something written right away. I could be wrong - one has to read the situation. I like the idea of not unlocking the storm door (glass) and keeping it as brief as possible 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
Dorjezigzag
5th August 2021, 20:29
Im not concerned for myself , Im just trying to help my son and his friends who need answers,
I get you Doug, I've totally resigned myself to whatever the situation brings to myself, 100% I will never be vaccinated, but I do worry about my 17 year old son. In the UK they have just announced that 16-17 years are in line to be vaccinated. He was very much in agreement that he did not want to get vaccinated and didn't believe that a vaccine passport would come into fruition. Now he realises it is coming and also he sees that universities that he wants to attend need students to be vaccinated. Also he is coming to an age when things like nightclubs are very important and it has been made clear a vaccine passport will be needed. Ive told him to wait until the winter, things will seem very different then and I hope he will do that but I can totally understand the fact he is unsure.
If he does resist I would recomend for now that he doesn't be too aggressive about his decision and tries to fly under the rador as much as possible.
I do agree with all these legal challenges that are happening and they should be supported as much as possible but people also need to be aware of becoming a target.
Its a really challenging time to be a parent.
thepainterdoug
5th August 2021, 22:37
i agree with many comments, i will not try to be in your face aggressive. i will say nothing. then no thank you, than, really no thanks not interested etc, and only if pushed, start to ramp up with legal papers and asking for signatures
Patient
6th August 2021, 01:39
Im not concerned for myself , Im just trying to help my son and his friends who need answers,
I get you Doug, I've totally resigned myself to whatever the situation brings to myself, 100% I will never be vaccinated, but I do worry about my 17 year old son. In the UK they have just announced that 16-17 years are in line to be vaccinated. He was very much in agreement that he did not want to get vaccinated and didn't believe that a vaccine passport would come into fruition. Now he realises it is coming and also he sees that universities that he wants to attend need students to be vaccinated. Also he is coming to an age when things like nightclubs are very important and it has been made clear a vaccine passport will be needed. Ive told him to wait until the winter, things will seem very different then and I hope he will do that but I can totally understand the fact he is unsure.
If he does resist I would recomend for now that he doesn't be too aggressive about his decision and tries to fly under the rador as much as possible.
I do agree with all these legal challenges that are happening and they should be supported as much as possible but people also need to be aware of becoming a target.
Its a really challenging time to be a parent.
Yes, I have kids too. I have 2 boys that are vaccine injured already - We have been in the vaccine war for about 17 years now. I can relate other instances fighting with medical people in hospitals as well. Once myself and once my wife - we both had to fight to keep from getting unnecessary surgery on ourselves. You would be surprised at the threats you receive when you don't want them to take a piece out of you. It is surprising and awakening! And then you recover and see that you for sure didn't need the surgery - wow.
Now if I see people approaching my house, I get good warning usually. The driveway is long and someone usually spots anyone coming by. I think they are always watching for a delivery of something they ordered.
Depending on how I feel I can ignore them completely, or great them from a second floor small balcony - or I could be creepy and just open the upstairs balcony door and speak to them without them being able to see me. :)
You could always learn a bit of sign language and give them a card saying you are deaf and you can't read lips. Then just keep give them a puzzling look until they leave. I think everyone knows a bit of sign language already. :)
It is good to discuss this though because I would want to confront them, but I know that is not the best thing to do.
The Lawnman
22nd August 2021, 21:34
so perhaps it was my fault for being late to my own dance here, but I was hoping for some more info that was more directly usable
here is one form, not sure where I got it. what do you think?
I will begin to add more.
LEGAL NOTICE
TO: ____________________________ Date: _____________________
By authority of the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation, I do hereby exercise my right to refuse to submit to or to administer the Covid 19 experimental gene therapy injection heretofore known as the “Covid 19 Vaccine.”
The United States Government has extraterritorially prosecuted, convicted and executed Medical Doctors who have violated the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation. Aiders and abettors of Nuremberg Crimes are equally guilty and have also been prosecuted, convicted and executed.
Every court of law in any location has original jurisdiction (Universal) to hear and try Crimes Against Humanity; and violations of the Nuremberg Code are classified as Crimes Against Humanity, which carry a maximum penalty of Death.
You are hereby put on NOTICE that any further effort to coerce, intimidate, persuade, trick or compel me to receive any experimental gene therapy injection (“Covid Vaccine”) or any other medical device, drug or procedure against my will, implicates you as aiding and abetting in the Capital Offense of a Crime Against Humanity. I hereby reserve my rights to swear to a criminal complaint against you in the nearest available law enforcement agency or court of law. I do not contract with you in any way and expressly deny any contractual relationship with you.
I hereby reserve my rights and put you on NOTICE that you may also be liable for civil damages under various Tort claims including but not limited to: negligence, fraud (in the Inducement), Assault, Battery, Intentional Inflication of Emotional Distress, Loss of Consortium, Trespass and Products Liability. You are hereby notified of potential liability and this NOTICE shall serve as actual NOTICE in support of these claims.
Delivered to: _____________________________ (name of person on notice) BY HAND DELIVERY
Badge Number (other ID) ______________________ (medical or law enforcementm if applicable) from _________________________________ (agency, facility or hospital)
on this _______ day of 20___ at: _______________________________ (place) at ____:______ AM/PM By: __________________________________ (Complainant/You)
***Please complete the empty sections and hand deliver this NOTICE to the individual seeking to cause the injection (or other coercive act) and take a picture of both this completed NOTICE and the person you delivered it to and file a copy of this completed notice with your nearest Law Enforcement office, County Registrar, County Court, District Attoreny, Attorney General and your legal counsel. Please be aware that some states require all parties to a conversation be aware that your interactions are being recorded and as such, you should inform all people present that you are recoding pictures, audio and/or video of your interaction. Please keep all such recordings/pictures for evidence and take notes about the circumstances while it is fresh in your memory. All of this may be used as evidence or support for you claim.
I'm not trying to be a naysayer or negative, but you might as well put a target on your back, or rather, your arm. The people who want you to take the poison do not care about what is in this notice and will not read it.
Look into the religious exemption approach to avoiding the jab.
I intend to avoid the jab if they try to force it on me by telling them to go do you know what.... And its coming. The University of New Mexico just announced it requires all faculty, staff, employees and students to take the poison. The full NM government, including courts, may soon require the jab for all employees as well as the public who seek access to a government building.
There is no lawful authority for any of this, but they do not care. It's time to take a stand and say "NO!".
Have you tried it?
This notice was put together by Dr. Francis A. Boyle A.M., J.D., Ph.D.
Harvard UniversityA.B. University of Chicago
fboyle@illinois.edu
https://home.solari.com/the-nuremberg-code-exemption-statement/
Here is what happened at Loyola University when they tried to mandate vaccines.
https://catholiccitizens.org/issues/catholic-universities/96498/more-victories-against-loyola-universitys-unlawful-shot-mandate/
One needs to try...put it in writing, create the record. Notice of Liability can be a powerful tool if one knows how to use it.
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