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Mashika
8th August 2021, 02:08
In case you have not learned about it yet, "Captain Kirk" has a new show on RT :P
https://www.rt.com/shows/i-don-t-understand-with-william-shatner/
It's very cool actually, he's awesome :flower:
thepainterdoug
8th August 2021, 02:44
thanks Mashi
i love william shatner. im going to watch. thanks
Mashika
8th August 2021, 03:06
thanks Mashi
i love william shatner. im going to watch. thanks
My mom always says that William Shatner, is the very definition of charisma.. LMAO, i think i understand why she sees him like that :) :heart:
Sunny-side-up
8th August 2021, 09:15
Thanx for the info Mashika
have some sun on me :sun:
Le Chat
8th August 2021, 12:38
Apparently not a very nice man to get on with in the studio.
I loved his Lieutenant Lucerne/Ward Fowler character in the first of his two Columbo appearances...
Bluegreen
8th August 2021, 18:58
Set phasers to PARTY
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"Where's the cake?"
Open Minded Dude
8th August 2021, 19:05
Shatner (Kirk) is still one of the best things that came out of StarTrek. Next to Spock and Quark.
Mashika
9th August 2021, 01:18
Apparently not a very nice man to get on with in the studio.
I loved his Lieutenant Lucerne/Ward Fowler character in the first of his two Columbo appearances...
Lots of people in that industry are like that, they are charming, and funny and all kinds of things, but perfectionists in a way that if something is done wrong, the tension can be felt on the air, you could cut it with a knife lol. I know a couple people like that, i think we all do know someone who acts that way when the expectations they have of other people, fail to deliver
Mashika
9th August 2021, 01:22
Set phasers to PARTY
http://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/37/95/1385470968-tumblr_kygnnu2c4T1qamhsk.jpg
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http://media2.fdncms.com/sacurrent/imager/u/original/2536819/12764369_1410720312277803_1167787104713941885_o.jpg
"Where's the cake?"
I have not watched the original Star Trek series, perhaps should do soon, I have only watched the new movies and the Discovery show on Netflix. But even if not having watched the original show, everyone on this planet pretty much knows who "Captain Kirk" is :D
Strat
9th August 2021, 02:09
I have not watched the original Star Trek series, perhaps should do soon, I have only watched the new movies and the Discovery show on Netflix. But even if not having watched the original show, everyone on this planet pretty much knows who "Captain Kirk" is :D
I'm a big fan of Star Trek in general, specifically The Next Generation. I hate to say it but the original series is..umm...sorta....awful! I force myself to watch it out of my nerdy respect for it but the truth is I don't care for it. However, Wrath of Khan is absolutely amazing! I highly recommend that.
Mark (Star Mariner)
9th August 2021, 14:36
Hardcore Trek nerd here. Captain Kirk is God, that is all.
I have only watched the new movies and the Discovery show on Netflix. But even if not having watched the original show, everyone on this planet pretty much knows who "Captain Kirk" is :D
For the love of God, goodness, and all things bright and beautiful, disregard the diseased, malformed abominations that are the 'new' incarnations of Star Trek, namely, the new movies, Discovery, Lower Decks, and Picard. None of these things are Star Trek. They claim to be Star Trek, following the legacy of Star Trek, and kinda look a bit like Star Trek, but none of them ARE Star Trek. Nowhere near. It's not that they are cheap knock-offs, the production values are very high. Since JJ Abrams got his grubby world-destroying hands on it, and since CBS got involved too, the franchise has been summarily destroyed, piece by piece. Firstly they chose to ignore and totally bastardize 50+ years of canon. Then they decided to insert exceedingly obtrusive woke propaganda and identity politics - at the expense of story-telling.
If you didn't grow up with Kirk and Spock and Bones like I did, TOS (The Original Series) will look pretty dated to you. But if you really want to experience true, real, Star Trek, you can't go wrong with the original movies. I'd start with Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, then Star Trek III, IV, and VI (give V a miss). Then start on The Next Generation, all seven seasons. Probably the best Trek there's ever been. There are four Next Generation movies too, but only two good ones (Generations, and First Contact). Follow up with Deep Space Nine - absolutely magnificent, followed by Voyager and Enterprise. At that point, Star Trek - true Star Trek - ends. There is no more after that.
In his usual whiskey-soaked scottish whimsicality, the Critical Drinker - probably, no certainly, the best, most accurate movie critic on the internet - explains the situation:
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The only other thing that comes close to Star Trek, and does a really good job at it, is The Orville. Ironically, The Orville is infinitely more Star Trek than Star Trek Trek these days (comparing it to Discover et al).
Open Minded Dude
9th August 2021, 18:30
In his usual whiskey-soaked scottish whimsicality, the Critical Drinker - probably, no certainly, the best, most accurate movie critic on the internet - explains the situation:
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The only other thing that comes close to Star Trek, and does a really good job at it, is The Orville. Ironically, The Orville is infinitely more Star Trek than Star Trek Trek these days (comparing it to Discover et al).
Could not agree more, like the Critical Drinker's reviews a lot and also the Orville.
Discovery is an abomination, the dumbest show on television (did not watch Batwoman and the new Doctor Who though, both of which might be worthy competitors). ST has been hijacked for political purposes.
Just like Strat I am kind of 'forced' to watch ST as a ST nerd but it was painful.
I loved DS9 which for me was the best ST show.
Mashika
10th August 2021, 01:40
Hardcore Trek nerd here. Captain Kirk is God, that is all.
I have only watched the new movies and the Discovery show on Netflix. But even if not having watched the original show, everyone on this planet pretty much knows who "Captain Kirk" is :D
For the love of God, goodness, and all things bright and beautiful, disregard the diseased, malformed abominations that are the 'new' incarnations of Star Trek, namely, the new movies, Discovery, Lower Decks, and Picard. None of these things are Star Trek. They claim to be Star Trek, following the legacy of Star Trek, and kinda look a bit like Star Trek, but none of them ARE Star Trek. Nowhere near. It's not that they are cheap knock-offs, the production values are very high. Since JJ Abrams got his grubby world-destroying hands on it, and since CBS got involved too, the franchise has been summarily destroyed, piece by piece. Firstly they chose to ignore and totally bastardize 50+ years of canon. Then they decided to insert exceedingly obtrusive woke propaganda and identity politics - at the expense of story-telling.
If you didn't grow up with Kirk and Spock and Bones like I did, TOS (The Original Series) will look pretty dated to you. But if you really want to experience true, real, Star Trek, you can't go wrong with the original movies. I'd start with Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, then Star Trek III, IV, and VI (give V a miss). Then start on The Next Generation, all seven seasons. Probably the best Trek there's ever been. There are four Next Generation movies too, but only two good ones (Generations, and First Contact). Follow up with Deep Space Nine - absolutely magnificent, followed by Voyager and Enterprise. At that point, Star Trek - true Star Trek - ends. There is no more after that.
In his usual whiskey-soaked scottish whimsicality, the Critical Drinker - probably, no certainly, the best, most accurate movie critic on the internet - explains the situation:
3BiyH8lENRs
The only other thing that comes close to Star Trek, and does a really good job at it, is The Orville. Ironically, The Orville is infinitely more Star Trek than Star Trek Trek these days (comparing it to Discover et al).
"Lower Decks", that almost sounds bad, as in "Star Trek: Cleaning Crew" lmao...
I have not watched all the movies or older series of Star Trek, only some of them that were available on Netflix. I also have not watched the Orville, i know about the show but unfortunately, it was blocked on my region and i could never find a good copy on other places online, or something i could download. So i just kind of gave up on watching it. As with many many other shows, like Mr Robot, which i missed almost entirely when it was on, and later on found a downloadable version, still have to finish watching that :) :/
Agree that Discovery is a bad show, but that's how i learned Star Trek exists, and it made me go try to find and watch other movies and series. So i guess at least it was good for that? :P
I think i'm lacking a bit of context so that i can know which ones are the good/bad series/movies. When i watched them i mostly always liked all the ones i was able to watch, maybe need to go rewatch and compare against each other, because just basically watched them as if there was no relationship between the different series and movies :/
Strat
10th August 2021, 02:39
If you didn't grow up with Kirk and Spock and Bones like I did, TOS (The Original Series) will look pretty dated to you. But if you really want to experience true, real, Star Trek, you can't go wrong with the original movies. I'd start with Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, then Star Trek III, IV, and VI (give V a miss). Then start on The Next Generation, all seven seasons. Probably the best Trek there's ever been. There are four Next Generation movies too, but only two good ones (Generations, and First Contact). Follow up with Deep Space Nine - absolutely magnificent, followed by Voyager and Enterprise. At that point, Star Trek - true Star Trek - ends. There is no more after that.
Perfectly said my friend.
Drinks on me at Ten Forward, I'll be at the bar chatting with Guinan. Anyone else is welcome to come, the more the merrier. Unless Councilor Troi is around...I want some alone time with her.
Orph
10th August 2021, 03:00
The original series, "Elaan of Troyius". ... Elaan was a hottie.
Us guys are such sexist pigs
Mark (Star Mariner)
10th August 2021, 12:44
Perfectly said my friend.
Drinks on me at Ten Forward, I'll be at the bar chatting with Guinan. Anyone else is welcome to come, the more the merrier. Unless Councilor Troi is around...I want some alone time with her.
I'll see your Counsellor Troi, and raise you Jadzia Dax. :)
mountain_jim
10th August 2021, 14:11
Agree totally Star Mariner, as a Star Trek enthusiast from the original seen on tv in the 60's onward, the franchise is now (emotionally) dead and buried for me. (Though just finished Discovery season 2, so can't resist SF no matter how much I hate certain aspects.)
Sadly, the same wokeness killed off Doctor Who as well, with the last great doctor Capaldi and that period the end of value in that show, in my view.
Open Minded Dude
10th August 2021, 19:23
We should have a thread discussing all the shows on Netflix or streaming tele in general, there are still some good ones out there although most has been contaminated now by the 'woke virus'. ;)
Suzi E
10th August 2021, 19:48
I thought the best series was Voyager ...... Seven Of Nine being my favourite character. I thought she played a fantastic part and the Borg were always something that I thought could really happen.
Will Shatner was a handsome chap in his younger years and a fine actor, but Spok always had the edge .......
Strat
11th August 2021, 05:11
Perfectly said my friend.
Drinks on me at Ten Forward, I'll be at the bar chatting with Guinan. Anyone else is welcome to come, the more the merrier. Unless Councilor Troi is around...I want some alone time with her.
I'll see your Counsellor Troi, and raise you Jadzia Dax. :)
You may know this already but fun fact about Dax: Prior to her getting the role she was a model. They were initially going to give her a role where her face would be completely covered, just like many actors are in typical ST fashion. But then they figured how dumb would that be to have a beautiful lady and cover her face? lol
Mark (Star Mariner)
19th September 2021, 15:15
Star Trek: Discovery. The writing on this show is G.A.R.B.A.G.E. Nothing about it is Star Trek any more. I cannot believe what my beloved Trek has become.
Behold, the latest wokeness:
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mountain_jim
19th September 2021, 16:15
Agree totally Star Mariner, as a Star Trek enthusiast from the original seen on tv in the 60's onward, the franchise is now (emotionally) dead and buried for me. (Though just finished Discovery season 2, so can't resist SF no matter how much I hate certain aspects.)
Sadly, the same wokeness killed off Doctor Who as well, with the last great doctor Capaldi and that period the end of value in that show, in my view.
I must update this post now and see I am enjoying Discovery season 3 so far, in spite of wokeness quotient, and really enjoying Picard season 1 so far.
Guess I am just a sucker for Sci_Fi shows. :)
and the post above, I am guessing that is past where I am so far - don't recoginize the characters from screenshot.
mizo
19th September 2021, 17:10
As a newbie thought I'd use this post to see that I can easily add a animated gif...
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Both Bones and Kirk agree that I can :sun:
Yep I agree Shatner rocks
BoR
19th September 2021, 20:22
Apparently not a very nice man to get on with in the studio.
I loved his Lieutenant Lucerne/Ward Fowler character in the first of his two Columbo appearances...
Maybe you are referring to this video below? It is a very funny clip to listen to. And in this case he was totally right! And he made the director admit that he didn’t have a clue what he wanted the end result to be. You see, with voice actors, you do not want to interfere too much in their interpretation, unless they deliver an obviously bad take. Because if you interfere too much, you may not get the authenticity you want in your final product. The first take was perfect. The only thing the director could have said is: great! Now let’s do two or three more and you can improvise all you want and maybe bring in different nuances and we’ll choose the take that is the best one. And there would have been no problem.
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I like William Shatner a lot and I can totally believe he can be the worst nightmare for directors with not much experience.
Bluegreen
19th September 2021, 22:58
What do I think of the current Star Trek series?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cAHmMl8BDQ0/TgInMwAYgmI/AAAAAAAAKF4/zQYf6kVJXUI/s1600/Need-more-Shatner-james-t-kirk-7761756-510-585.jpg
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=47492&d=1632071083
Mashika
20th September 2021, 01:56
What do I think of the current Star Trek series?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cAHmMl8BDQ0/TgInMwAYgmI/AAAAAAAAKF4/zQYf6kVJXUI/s1600/Need-more-Shatner-james-t-kirk-7761756-510-585.jpg
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=47492&d=1632071083
Would be very very very very interesting if he would come back, in true form, somehow, in a new series. But i don't think that will happen anytime soon :(
I don't even think he would find the right way to do it, or even care anymore at this point, but who knows.. :)
Mike Gorman
20th September 2021, 03:48
I know this is a Shatner thread, but has anyone taken in the new 'Picard' season on Prime? I was very impressed with Patrick Stewart all over again, and Riker & Troi also appear - imaginative, sophisticated and actually quite enthralling
Mark (Star Mariner)
20th September 2021, 14:26
Here's a recent video of Shatner reacting to the many comedians who have impersonated him over the years. Good stuff!
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mountain_jim
20th September 2021, 15:13
I know this is a Shatner thread, but has anyone taken in the new 'Picard' season on Prime? I was very impressed with Patrick Stewart all over again, and Riker & Troi also appear - imaginative, sophisticated and actually quite enthralling
I just watched the first episode where they appear, and agree with your take, as I posted above:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115910-Ground-Control-to-Captain-Kirk&p=1452955&viewfull=1#post1452955
I just did not mention these appearances to avoid spoilers.
It was a great and heart-warming episode with great acting and strong bonds between the characters and actors and was quite emotionally satisfying to this fan of Next Gen for so long.
The writing has been superior to Discovery also in my view, with the leveraging of the Borg story and new back-story for the Romulans quite interesting.
ExomatrixTV
27th September 2021, 10:53
William Shatner discusses Ancient Aliens and UFOs - Audio Interview:
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Mark (Star Mariner)
5th October 2021, 08:13
William Shatner to go into Space!
Normally I wouldn't give a hoot about ultra rich celebs and what they get up to, but as a life-long Trek nerd this warmed my heart. His flight on Blue Origin is I believe scheduled for October 12th.
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Did You See Them
5th October 2021, 09:34
Yes looking forward to seeing his launch - hope all goes well.
The oldest astronaut if he returns ok !
I believe he was offered a place on Virgin Galactic but had to pay - said he'd need paying to go, so someone did (Netflix?), and paid for the Blue Origin flight for him.
Legend!
To the Stars !
Love it !
ByTheNorthernSea
5th October 2021, 11:00
William Shatner to go into Space!
Normally I wouldn't give a hoot about ultra rich celebs and what they get up to, but as a life-long Trek nerd this warmed my heart. His flight on Blue Origin is I believe scheduled for October 12th.
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If anyone deserves to go, it's him...what a legend!
Did You See Them
13th October 2021, 12:45
To Boldly Go .. Live.
T - minus 0:06 mins
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Did You See Them
13th October 2021, 14:50
Go..Go..Go !!
God Speed Kirk !
Did You See Them
13th October 2021, 15:04
Welcome back to Earth Kirk !
mountain_jim
13th October 2021, 15:13
That touchdown looked mighty hard to me.
Mark (Star Mariner)
13th October 2021, 15:37
Remarkable and captivating.
A moment of extraordinary contrast at the end... Kirk himself emerges from the capsule, tentatively at first, as if landing on a strange new world. He looks around him, takes it all in: tears swell in his eyes. The camera lingers on him as he weighs careful words, attempting, stumbling at first, to give expression to what was a profound, transformational experience. At last the words come...we lean in to hear what may go down in the Ages...but we can barely hear him, drowned out by the screaming, whooping, chattering hens in the background as if on a saturday night out at Carlos & Charlie's.
Did You See Them
13th October 2021, 15:50
That touchdown looked mighty hard to me.
I thought so too - would like to hear that all went well in the landing.
15-17 mph was speed under chute for approach.
I believe that the capsule fires 6 or 8 small rockets just a foot or so above the ground to slow it down further the last few inches. Maybe the dust cloud they created immediately obscured that. Maybe they didnt fire ! I didnt see them like on last flight.
Edit - not so sure it has any landing rockets now - might be confused with spacex.
Perhaps good old fashioned shock absorbers !
Edit 2 - just to clear things up I checked it out.
"to help the vehicle land. Just before touchdown the capsule’s retro rocket — a tiny engine on the bottom of the spacecraft — fires against the ground to slow the vehicle even more. And for further cushioning, the bottom of the capsule has a "crushable structure" — a ring of eight segments made of aluminum honeycomb material. This helps to absorb some of the capsule’s impact with the ground."
https://www.theverge.com/2016/7/20/12239076/blue-origin-new-shepard-rocket-intentional-crash-landing
Did You See Them
13th October 2021, 15:54
Remarkable and captivating.
A moment of extraordinary contrast at the end... Kirk himself emerges from the capsule, tentatively at first, as if landing on a strange new world. He looks around him, takes it all in: tears swell in his eyes. The camera lingers on him as he weighs careful words, attempting, stumbling at first, to give expression to what was a profound, transformational experience. At last the words come...we lean in to hear what may go down in the Ages...but we can barely hear him, drowned out by the screaming, whooping, chattering hens in the background as if on a saturday night out at Carlos & Charlie's.
True - but he composed himself after Bezos interrupted his first words with a bottle of bubbly and still showed enough emotion in his experience to bring a tear to the eye.
Mashika
13th October 2021, 16:59
Remarkable and captivating.
A moment of extraordinary contrast at the end... Kirk himself emerges from the capsule, tentatively at first, as if landing on a strange new world. He looks around him, takes it all in: tears swell in his eyes. The camera lingers on him as he weighs careful words, attempting, stumbling at first, to give expression to what was a profound, transformational experience. At last the words come...we lean in to hear what may go down in the Ages...but we can barely hear him, drowned out by the screaming, whooping, chattering hens in the background as if on a saturday night out at Carlos & Charlie's.
True - but he composed himself after Bezos interrupted his first words with a bottle of bubbly and still showed enough emotion in his experience to bring a tear to the eye.
It bothered me badly that he got interrupted and had to just stand there waiting to see what was next. A bit disrespectful, honestly, and it ruined the moment completely i think, should have been more memorable than a "yeah i hear you but let me go get a bottle first! Ok so yeah, what were you saying?"
There was a missed opportunity there, could have been more 'historical' and memorable, and i don't think they planned anything after the landing, that was a lost chance to make a very cool and unique event in history :confused:
But it's very nice still, that he's still around and be able to experience this, something that could not have happened some years ago, he got to see and live it on his own, and that's truly very cool :)
Hopefully we'll hear more about this later on in his show, or somewhere else
Donald Ryan
13th October 2021, 17:52
May he live long and prosper!
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