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Water is life
6th September 2021, 22:09
Friends of mine have had a positive PCR test and classic covid symptoms. I'm considering visiting to see if I can catch it. The idea is to get natural immunity - that my body will produce antibodies which protect me from future similar infections. It's the same idea as sending kids round to contract chickenpox so that they are protected from a worse experience of it when they are older.

I am not going to take any so called vaccination and am opposed to any kind of social restrictions based on vaccination/antibody status.

My motivations are twofold:
1) I'd rather have covid in a planned way than coming across it at random in the future, especially because my immune system is in tip top condition right now and I expect it to drop over the long Scottish winter, (the assumptions here are that most people will contract covid, and that the variants are getting more dangerous,) and;
2) with the idea in mind that an antibody passport may be a useful thing in the future. (I'm in the UK, there are restrictions being placed on unvaccinated people's access to public spaces and it's highly likely to get more restricted but there are suggestions that having a positive antibody test could give the same 'privileges' as having had the required level of vaccination.)

It's possible that I already had covid, so my first step is to get an antibody test. I've no idea how reliable they are but I guess with the second motivation that doesn't really matter. If anyone has evidence about their reliability I'd appreciate that.

There is some confusion in me around whether I am supporting the creation of a reality which I disagree with if I take this action. I do believe that we are all powerful creators and that there is currently a manipulated collective manifestation of tyranny and illness. I'm unsure about the relationship between me as an individual and me as part of this collective, and the power of my intentions and actions over the wider reality. Am I manifesting tyrany and illness by deliberately contracting covid as an individual?

I am very healthy, aged 35 and don't feel at risk of anything serious. At the same time, I've a friend who is similarly positioned and had it, and now is struggling to cope with a distorted sense of smell. I know that this is an unpredictable disease. Am I being flippant with my health?

If I have symptoms, I will self isolate as I don't want to worry about passing it on to anyone else.

There is definitely an element of wanting to control here. I don't want to be in a position where I have covid symptoms without natural medications and with important comitments ahead and with a less strong immune system. There are internalised voices telling me that wanting to control is bad but I truly believe that there is a way of healthy control. Surely it's a good thing to understand my sphere of influence and exercise control there while accepting where I cannot influence?

Do I need to consider other factors?

What are people's opinions on taking this action?

Do we think that covid is likely to become a higher risk infection for unvaccinated people in future?

How likely are antibody passports to be something desirable?

Ioneo
6th September 2021, 22:51
I thought it would be better to get it, get over it and have natural immunity. I didn't actively try to get it but as things tend to happen I got it at the end of July. It took 10 days to get over the virus and another few weeks to recover completely. Now I feel free from all the vaccine propaganda.

Mashika
7th September 2021, 01:41
Friends of mine have had a positive PCR test and classic covid symptoms. I'm considering visiting to see if I can catch it. The idea is to get natural immunity - that my body will produce antibodies which protect me from future similar infections. It's the same idea as sending kids round to contract chickenpox so that they are protected from a worse experience of it when they are older.

I am not going to take any so called vaccination and am opposed to any kind of social restrictions based on vaccination/antibody status.

My motivations are twofold:
1) I'd rather have covid in a planned way than coming across it at random in the future, especially because my immune system is in tip top condition right now and I expect it to drop over the long Scottish winter, (the assumptions here are that most people will contract covid, and that the variants are getting more dangerous,) and;
2) with the idea in mind that an antibody passport may be a useful thing in the future. (I'm in the UK, there are restrictions being placed on unvaccinated people's access to public spaces and it's highly likely to get more restricted but there are suggestions that having a positive antibody test could give the same 'privileges' as having had the required level of vaccination.)

It's possible that I already had covid, so my first step is to get an antibody test. I've no idea how reliable they are but I guess with the second motivation that doesn't really matter. If anyone has evidence about their reliability I'd appreciate that.

There is some confusion in me around whether I am supporting the creation of a reality which I disagree with if I take this action. I do believe that we are all powerful creators and that there is currently a manipulated collective manifestation of tyranny and illness. I'm unsure about the relationship between me as an individual and me as part of this collective, and the power of my intentions and actions over the wider reality. Am I manifesting tyrany and illness by deliberately contracting covid as an individual?

I am very healthy, aged 35 and don't feel at risk of anything serious. At the same time, I've a friend who is similarly positioned and had it, and now is struggling to cope with a distorted sense of smell. I know that this is an unpredictable disease. Am I being flippant with my health?

If I have symptoms, I will self isolate as I don't want to worry about passing it on to anyone else.

There is definitely an element of wanting to control here. I don't want to be in a position where I have covid symptoms without natural medications and with important comitments ahead and with a less strong immune system. There are internalised voices telling me that wanting to control is bad but I truly believe that there is a way of healthy control. Surely it's a good thing to understand my sphere of influence and exercise control there while accepting where I cannot influence?

Do I need to consider other factors?

What are people's opinions on taking this action?

Do we think that covid is likely to become a higher risk infection for unvaccinated people in future?

How likely are antibody passports to be something desirable?

You can't build "natural immunity" against an artificial virus that is meant to evolve and sidestep all your body's normal prevention features. Like a Terminator "It will never stop until you are dead", how would you deal with that? If your body finds a way around it, it will mutate to step over your defence system and attack from another advantage point

Risking yourself to get immunity for the current one will make you weaker. Then it will mutate and attack again. You will be weaker than before, so this second mutation will hit harder. You may still survive, at the loss of even more health.

Then, next mutation will do better, since as your body learns from it, the virus also learns from your system of defence.

Eventually the virus overcomes, because it can outspend itself through billions and billions of evolving replicas, but you are a single entity, you can't survive so many attacks in sequence, year by year, it will diminish you until you are unable to resist one more attack. You can't replicate yourself, or regenerate in enough time to figure out in advance what the next virus mutation will do, but the virus does know your limits, and it will work around it

So i don't think going head on is a good approach

TomKat
7th September 2021, 01:57
Well, there actually IS a bad flu out there, misnamed covid. If you decide to do it, stock up on 10-1 concentrate oregano oil capsules (swansonvitamins.com). They especially protect the lungs. In fact, just today I noticed some wheezing, and I took 4 of them and it went away.
Also, if you succeed, be sure to get a covid test to make it official.

Mike Gorman
7th September 2021, 03:14
There are some very dark ideas doing the rounds regarding this virus; we all know the imagination of people and their tendencies to amplify both the capacities of the pathogen, and the intentions of those mad bastards who occupy the 'Green Billionaire' strata of our western world: there is a distinctly anti-human tangent to much of their discourse, 'cleansing the world' of the human infestation appears to be their creed, as if we ourselves are a pernicious weed race that seek to destroy the Arcadian splendour of this world, plaster take-away kitchens all over it.
A virus is a package of genetic material which seeks to replicate, it is a singular organism that has no discernible sense of volition, it is singular and efficient with its original purpose. We know that this particular virus has a manufactured pedigree, they have even given us the genetic origins with their title: SARS-CoV2; I don't know if this is absolutely the case, I am like you, trying to discover as much as possible from those I sense to be speakers of truth.
It seems to me that certain types of people have a vulnerability to this virus, they catch it regardless of any attempts to avoid it.We know that the recovery rate is within the 99-99.7% range, but those within the 1%+ group seem to be unable to fight the virus.
We also know that, so far, the mortality rate for this virus, and its so-called variants is not enough to shift the natural attrition numbers-in other words there are no more people dying in the past 2 years than would be expected in any given year, this is cause for great hope.
It is not worthwhile to distress yourself, or anticipate/assume Sci-Fi inspired fear. Remember:

Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain" (Frank Herbert - Dune)

I think this litany is probably one of the more valuable contributions from modern fiction, just my two-bob's worth.
Please do not succumb to the sophisticated propaganda they are attacking us with, they are just people, they have no ultimate power to impose this on humanity, unless we allow it.
I would not seek to become infected with this virus, but I would do everything you possibly can to strengthen, and improve your immune system - a large part of this is your state of mind (I am more convinced of the part our mental state plays in our health than ever).
Human beings are very, very tough - even if this is a manufactured bio-weapon it looks like it is not all that good at killing us off (!)
The FLU kills more people than this CoV2 thingy. Keep this in mind.