How Did We Arrive In A World So Full Of Hate And Division?

[rgray222]

How did the world’s get so divided and how did so much hate enter society? It seemed to have arrived on our doorstep with a resounding thud but that is not how it happened. To paraphrase a great American writer—slowly, then suddenly. Social justice ideology has been taught at universities around the world for decades. When enough social justice ideologues had graduated with straight A's in race, gender, and victimhood they decided that they knew what was best for the world.

They learned well that opposing viewpoints should not be tolerated and they also learned that race and to lesser extent sex are powerful weapons. Bringing race or sex into the discussion immediately stops the dialogue and paralyzes the opposition. It has been and continues to be a masterful stroke because leaving the racist or sexist moniker unchallenged does the intended damage and defending the racist or sexist title makes one look guilty as hell. The beauty of this warfare is that there are plenty of real racists and sexists to go around so no one really knows if the handle fits or if it is being used as a means to crush an enemy. It also allows organized groups to burn cities, destroy businesses, damage property and even commit murder without any reprisal whatsoever. In a word it's genius.

Peter Boghossian does an excellent job explaining how we got here.
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Here is a story about Professor Peter Boghossian, he wrote a resignation letter to Provost Susan Jeffords at Portland State University which accurately describes the state of almost all Universities. It should be a wake-up call.

A Portland State University philosophy professor is resigning from his position after the university “Sacrificed Ideas For Ideology.”

In a scathing letter to the university’s Provost Susan Jeffords disseminated through former NYTimes Editor Bari Weiss’s substack (https://bariweiss.substack.com/), Peter Boghossian explained that the academic institution’s unwillingness to accept free thinking is harming education.

Boghossian first joined PSU more than 10 years ago. During his time teaching, Boghossian explained that he often invited guest speakers to campus “not because I agreed with their worldviews, but primarily because I didn’t.”

“From those messy and difficult conversations, I’ve seen the best of what our students can achieve: questioning beliefs while respecting believers; staying even-tempered in challenging circumstances; and even changing their minds,” he wrote. “I never once believed — nor do I know — that the purpose of instruction was to lead my students to a particular conclusion. Rather, I sought to create the conditions for rigorous thought; to help them gain the tools to hunt and furrow for their own conclusions. This is why I became a teacher and why I love teaching.”

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Over the years, however, Boghossian said that “the university has made this kind of intellectual exploration impossible” and “transformed a bastion of free inquiry into a Social Justice factory whose only inputs were race, gender, and victimhood and whose only outputs were grievance and division.”

“Students at Portland State are not being taught to think. Rather, they are being trained to mimic the moral certainty of ideologues. Faculty and administrators have abdicated the university’s truth-seeking mission and instead drive intolerance of divergent beliefs and opinions. This has created a culture of offense where students are now afraid to speak openly and honestly,” he continued.

Under the guise of fighting off “microaggressions” and “bigotry” on campus, the professor said PSU systemically sacrificed free-thinking and dialogue. When he called attention to the “incidents of illiberalism” and began asking the administration hard questions about their lurch toward homogenous thinking, Boghossian was met with “retaliation” and an investigation into whether he was “beating my wife and children.”

The university’s investigation found nothing to back up the claim, but the professor said there was “no apology for the false accusations.” Instead, Boghossian was told he “was not allowed to render my opinion about ‘protected classes’ or teach in such a way that my opinion about protected classes could be known — a bizarre conclusion to absurd charges.”

“Universities can enforce ideological conformity just through the threat of these investigations,” he warned. “I eventually became convinced that corrupted bodies of scholarship were responsible for justifying radical departures from the traditional role of liberal arts schools and basic civility on campus. There was an urgent need to demonstrate that morally fashionable papers — no matter how absurd — could be published. I believed then that if I exposed the theoretical flaws of this body of literature, I could help the university community avoid building edifices on such shaky ground.”

Boghossian’s attempts to draw attention to this phenomenon through an “intentionally garbled peer-reviewed paper that took aim at the new orthodoxy” were only met with more vandalism and physical pushback from students and the university without any consequences.

“Shortly thereafter, swastikas in the bathroom with my name under them began appearing in two bathrooms near the philosophy department. They also occasionally showed up on my office door, in one instance accompanied by bags of feces. Our university remained silent. When it acted, it was against me, not the perpetrators,” the professor wrote.

Boghossian said this series of events pushed him to realize that “every idea that has advanced human freedom has always, and without fail, been initially condemned.”

“Portland State University has failed in fulfilling this duty. In doing so it has failed not only its students but the public that supports it. While I am grateful for the opportunity to have taught at Portland State for over a decade, it has become clear to me that this institution is no place for people who intend to think freely and explore ideas,” Boghossian concluded. “This is not the outcome I wanted. But I feel morally obligated to make this choice. For ten years, I have taught my students the importance of living by your principles. One of mine is to defend our system of liberal education from those who seek to destroy it. Who would I be if I didn’t?”

Source: https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/08/portland-state-professor-resigns-after-university-sacrificed-ideas-for-ideology/?fbclid=IwAR0zjsedGYneRZam9AcXzaLRKCHNVKamXRdV7gHAUD1vDIiESPJCkhTz7_Y

[GMB1961]

We were all human until: Religion separated us, Politics divided us, Wealth classified us and Race disconnected us.

[onawah]

Clif High has been providing some great insights in his videos, the latest one here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/7h59e5VRG2cA/

[Mike]

Boghossian is a hero. If everyone stood up against this lunacy at once he wouldn't need to sacrifice his job. As it stands now, whoever sticks their head above the parapet first gets walloped. The biggest crisis in this country isn't "systemic racism" or "rape culture" or whatever pseudo grievance is currently being shat out by the woke (or the neurotic tribe of the lost as I prefer to call them). The biggest crisis is systemic cowardice.

In this inverted, post-truth world, weakness is the new strength. Cowardice is the new bravery. Fascism is the new anti-fascism. Lies are the new truth. Exclusivity is the new diversity. ...Hate is the new love

Questioning this lunacy in a sane world would make one a hero. In an insane world it gets you fired, or forces you to resign. Such is the fate of Boghossian.

He'll land on his feet though. He's a brilliant dude that was way underutilized at Portland State anyway. I'm a big fan of his and I can't wait to see what he does next.

[Pam]

Boghossian is a hero. If everyone stood up against this lunacy at once he wouldn't need to sacrifice his job. As it stands now, whoever sticks their head above the parapet first gets walloped. The biggest crisis in this country isn't "systemic racism" or "rape culture" or whatever pseudo grievance is currently being shat out by the woke (or the neurotic tribe of the lost as I prefer to call them). The biggest crisis is systemic cowardice.

In this inverted, post-truth world, weakness is the new strength. Cowardice is the new bravery. Fascism is the new anti-fascism. Lies are the new truth. Exclusivity is the new diversity. ...Hate is the new love

Questioning this lunacy in a sane world would make one a hero. In an insane world it gets you fired, or forces you to resign. Such is the fate of Boghossian.

He'll land on his feet though. He's a brilliant dude that was way underutilized at Portland State anyway. I'm a big fan of his and I can't wait to see what he does next.

I do have to say, Mike. That was so right on that it is brilliant. I have now adopted your term "systemic cowardice". The one good thing for me about all this is it has made me determined and stubbornly so, not to put my head in the sand anymore, I don't want to die a friggin coward.

I think Boghossian deserves a bigger audience then the victims at portland state. We need him to bring some sanity back in the world.

[ExomatrixTV]

All depends how big is the "Neo-Marxists (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115763-American-Marxism) like (The Cancel Culture) Woke (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115313-There-s-the-Woke-and-the-In-The-Know) Agenda" / BLM (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111435-Black-Lives-Matter) Agenda", The Obvious Stolen Election connected to countless other Government Corruptions & Abuse, the "New Normal (http://tinyurl.com/TheGreatReset)" & Mass Big Tech Censorship (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80790-Internet-Censorship-So-it-began...) is.

What we now know & understand of all the above ... is a very different deep insight/understanding than lets say 20 years ago when 9/11 just happened.

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
September 9th, 2021

[Sue (Ayt)]

I watched half of this video yesterday, and it very much ties into the long-term agenda and how it quietly crept into the educational system of the US.

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The Scientific Destruction Of Minds & Secret History of Western Education by Charlotte Iserbyt

Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt served as the head of policy at the Department of Education during the first administration of Ronald Reagan. While working there she discovered a long term strategic plan by the tax exempt foundations to transform America from a nation of rugged individualists and problem solvers to a country of servile, brainwashed minions who simply regurgitate whatever they're told.

Exclusive interview with Iserbyt breaks down how conditioning/training under a corporate agenda has replaced traditional education, leading to a deliberate dumbing down of Americans. Iserbyt further explains how Reagan signed agreements merging the U.S. and Soviet systems under the United Nations banner, turning over education and many other areas of public policy to global control.

This is a must see for anyone who wants to truly know why the education system is deliberately crafted to produce human drones with no critical thinking whose only skills are to be subservient, trust authority and follow orders.

Her book,'The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America' is free at
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com

[Karen (Geophyz)]

We were all human until: Religion separated us, Politics divided us, Wealth classified us and Race disconnected us.

I don't think I agree with that statement. We used to be able to have different religious beliefs and different politics and opinions but no more. There have always been wealth and race differences but again, this is different. This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different. Humanity has run it's course and is now imploding.

[Bill Ryan]

This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different.Yep. Here's an example. This kind of poison, targeted at people the guy doesn't even know, is pretty hard to understand.

My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.

https://projectavalon.net/James_Newburrie_tweet.gif

[Mike]

This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different.Yep. Here's an example. This kind of poison, targeted at people the guy doesn't even know, is pretty hard to understand.

My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.

https://projectavalon.net/James_Newburrie_tweet.gif

Wow. Classy!:facepalm:

My opinion: In the case of covid and vaccines: for the average person to accept that they've been lied to and manipulated on such a huge scale would also require them to question pretty much everything they ever regarded as true. Because if the president is lying and manipulating, and the doctors, the politicians, the community leaders, and anyone else who's regarded as a respectable authority...who's left? What's left?

It too traumatic for most, too emotionally challenging, too mind blowing, too everything! Some flat out don't have the capacity for it and the one's that do are too weary and scared to grapple with it. Much easier to remain in denial and return to their cozy lives. The ferocious denial and cruelty are the death throes of an overwhelmed system fighting to keep it's head in the sand. The irrationality is, ironically, a last gasp attempt at preserving their sanity.

I think precious few want true autonomy and sovereignty. The personal responsibility it requires is too much. Too many fall into existential crisis mode

[Ernie Nemeth]

Some of us have been saying this very same thing since we've been old enough to reason...

[Mike]

Some of us have been saying this very same thing since we've been old enough to reason...


How old were you when you had these revelations? Sh!t I couldn't do much coherent reasoning till I was about 30 maybe:) Even now it's a struggle. The propoganda machine, the poisoned air, water, food, and the pressure to conform is ever present and I will unknowingly slip into sleep mode here n there. Sometimes I'll catch myself saying or thinking things that aren't my words or thoughts at all.

I need to listen to things over and over and over for it to really settle in. And I've done that with Boghossian. But even then I'll still sometimes forget why I feel this way or that way, and I have to articulate it back to myself repetitively. The forum is useful for that sort of thing. Writing helps. I got allergy shots weekly as a kid, which are basically vaccines. So I was vaccinated weekly over about a 10 year period. No wonder I can't think straight.

I look at that avatar pic of me as a little boy and I wish I could help him avoid all that. On the bright side, I'm glad I was born in 1977 and not, say, 10 or 15 years later. I was a pretty kid and my Mom was frequently complimented on her "beautiful little daughter". Had I been born in the 90's I might be a dickless eunuch by now, wearing a rainbow patterned skirt to some gender bender parade, bleating out mindless propoganda while scratching my mutilated "vagina". These are the types of freaks Boghossian is up against. Reasonable people have very little chance at university

[Gracy]

I'm glad I was born in 1977 and not, say, 10 or 15 years later. I was a pretty kid and my Mom was frequently complimented on her "beautiful little daughter". Had I been born in the 90's I might be a dickless eunuch by now, wearing a rainbow patterned skirt to some gender bender parade, bleating out mindless propoganda while scratching my mutilated "vagina".

Disturbing visual Mike, but highly entertaining as usual. Nice to have a good chuckle after a long day! :nod:

:focus:

[rgray222]

My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.

Many of these people referred to in the original post are now in the workforce. Some have gone into publishing and they have prevented books from being published. Some have gone into journalism and they have had editors fired for not being radical enough. They have fanned out into every walk of life. Many are on social media wishing harm or even death to those that don't agree with them. Sadly many of these people have gone into teaching and they are indoctrinating our children starting in preschool.

I honestly think many people have had a psychotic break losing contact with reality.

[Mike]

My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.

Many of these people referred to in the original post are now in the workforce. Some have gone into publishing and they have prevented books from being published. Some have gone into journalism and they have had editors fired for not being radical enough. They have fanned out into every walk of life. Many are on social media wishing harm or even death to those that don't agree with them. Sadly many of these people have gone into teaching and they are indoctrinating our children starting in preschool.

I honestly think many people have had a psychotic break losing contact with reality.



It's spreading...sort of like a virus:wink:

[xidaijena]

Hi rgray222

Thank you for your post and sharing these information.

Well, as a Chinese, I will say: Because of my past lives lead to my present life, it is called Karma.

I don't like the society, either. Not only you, in western countries, China is too. Always full of negative news, I seldom see any nice reports which I like.

And especially now, I want to say some truth, but "they" don't agree.


How did the world’s get so divided and how did so much hate enter society?

In my opinion: we are born in the soceity of patriarchal control which is also called as Satan's World.

From the Bible, we can know something:

Matthew 4：8

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

Matthew 4：9

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."




We were all human until: Religion separated us, Politics divided us, Wealth classified us and Race disconnected us.

I agree with GMB1961, religion make us to believe in different "god", and then "fight" with each other's belief. Politics stops us to become one family. Wealth classified pushes us make money and even become the Money or Pressure victims. And Race, or the different color totally separate us. In my beliefs and my eyes and heart, WE ARE TRUE ONE UNDER ONE UNIVERSAL CREATOR.

Hope we can use our mind and our soul and our energy to create a new "universe".:grouphug:

[xidaijena]

My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.

Many of these people referred to in the original post are now in the workforce. Some have gone into publishing and they have prevented books from being published. Some have gone into journalism and they have had editors fired for not being radical enough. They have fanned out into every walk of life. Many are on social media wishing harm or even death to those that don't agree with them. Sadly many of these people have gone into teaching and they are indoctrinating our children starting in preschool.

I honestly think many people have had a psychotic break losing contact with reality.

You're right. I am also diagnosed with schizophrenia by the mental hospital in my hometwon.

[Brigantia]

We were all human until: Religion separated us, Politics divided us, Wealth classified us and Race disconnected us.

I don't think I agree with that statement. We used to be able to have different religious beliefs and different politics and opinions but no more. There have always been wealth and race differences but again, this is different. This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different. Humanity has run it's course and is now imploding.

There's truth there from both of you; look a few centuries back before the Enlightenment at the religious divisions and the hatred and bloodshed that ensued.

It's true that this rabid hatred has arisen very recently. I've learnt in recent years that some of my old school friends were Catholic, some Non-Conformist, one was Muslim - I didn't know that at school. It wasn't something that was discussed as it didn't matter. You formed an impression of your school friends on their personality.

My grandfather was a dyed-in-the-wool Tory, his brother was a Labour councillor. They were good friends throughout their lives.

The rise of social media, IMO, has changed things for the worse. You can be as strident and obnoxious as you like with a degree of anonymity, hardly anyone knows where you live and you don't have to deal with the consequences of dealing with conflict face to face. That's now led to a mass of people who don't know how to rein in their emotions and can't deal with opposing views.

Also, of course, as this thread points out in the first place, there's the woke education system. I did some university study in the early 90s and then again in the mid-2000s and the rot had set in during those years.

[Mashika]

How did the world’s get so divided and how did so much hate enter society?

Who said this was new? It seems as if this has been happening right from way before "we" were here, or able to "understand that we exist", otherwise known as consciousness or whatever is used to define it

Everything after that derives from the idea that "we" are separate somehow from "them", whoever/whatever "them" others are. We are not, we are just using a different system that makes sense to us

We did not arrive to this situation, we were on it all along, right from the beginning of civilization

It just happens that recently 'we' found out that we have been here all along and had not noticed the ways it works, or the ways we developed our reality around us, and started inspect it ourselves. Because i bet a fish or a bear or a lynx could not care less about how much the Oil per barrel will cost tomorrow But we do! That's "artificial meaning" and it means nothing once you fall on the bathroom and break your neck because you stepped on the soap bar

Social constructs and all that. And then, who said that was the final truth? And it had to be what sets the "rules of this world", who said that? I never learned who was the final master of the truth anywhere, school or outside, except for what they want to push into your head, as of how the 'world works'.

School is "We said so", work is "we said so", parenting is "we said so"



I never once believed — nor do I know — that the purpose of instruction was to lead my students to a particular conclusion. Rather, I sought to create the conditions for rigorous thought; to help them gain the tools to hunt and furrow for their own conclusions. This is why I became a teacher and why I love teaching

How do you pick up a spoon? Do you use your left or your right hand? Do you know the order of placing them on the table, is it right or left way? Which hand you do use to pick up the wine and which one to pick up the water cup? Are your cups ordered in front of you so you go from 'the far out to the far in' or "outwards to inwards'?

Are you going to put the knife and fork on the side or in the middle of the plate, or outside the plate? After you are done eating? And if in the middle of the plate, in which direction? Towards the guest or sideways? It's important because one may say "thanks i'm done and enjoyed it" and the other may be "you suck at having people over, this was nasty, i can't take it anymore", which representes what? But all with smiles all over the place. We are like that, right?

"We"

Yes.. "We"

Rules and rules, even when you are teaching to not have some certain rules, you still teach rules, that all i would say to that guy in the OP video

"Rules", just the ones that you understand better and like the most. But in the end.. "Rules"

Even telling someone "Don't follow rules!" is a life rule.. lmfao!

[I am B]

From the moment the most basic of rules gets detached from the basic moral value and is put into words, it becomes open to interpretation and corruption of it's meaning. Which makes it completely useless to it's only purpose.

"Calligraphed sins are like a coat of arms. Hollow. "

"When the state is most corrupt, then the laws are most multiplied. " - Tacitus

Happened since forever, therefore, it is not possible to make "everyone become one" like that, but to embrace the differences and goodwillingly jump into the chaos pool of humanity. Then, if everyone does it altruistically, we may get to a point where we will actually end up united.

Then we could discuss if it is possible inside human nature. Anyways, the only way to get closer to it, is to sincerely improve oneself instead of trying to change others. There will always be division, but the point is to embrace it, not to fight it.

[Mashika]

From the point the most basic of rules gets detached from the basic moral value and is put into words, it becomes open to interpretation and corruption of it's meaning. Which makes it completely useless to it's only purpose.

Who sets the moral limit? Who says "this is the red line?"

If you describe "The moral value", what would that mean in simple words here?



"When the state is most corrupt, then the laws are most multiplied. " - Tacitus

We live here, at that point, very much



Happened since forever, therefore, it is not possible to make "everyone become one" like that, but to embrace the differences and goodwillingly jump into the chaos pool of humanity. Then, if everyone does it altruistically, we may get to a point where we will actually end up united.

There are so many ways to play this ideology around, it would take more life time that i have available. But in short, you can think someone is not "altruistic" to you because they don't like the same purposes you like. Just the other day in Canada people were willing to burn books, is that something "altruistically" you would support? Then you may be an 'enemy' if you dislike it, for the rest of the world, right? Or... not?



Then we could discuss if it is possible inside human nature. Anyways, the only way to get closer to it, is to sincerely improve oneself instead of trying to change others. There will always be division, but the point is to embrace it, not to fight it.


"Critical relation to the truth regime in which one lives" comes to mind

[xidaijena]

From the moment the most basic of rules gets detached from the basic moral value and is put into words, it becomes open to interpretation and corruption of it's meaning. Which makes it completely useless to it's only purpose.

"Calligraphed sins are like a coat of arms. Hollow. "

"When the state is most corrupt, then the laws are most multiplied. " - Tacitus

Happened since forever, therefore, it is not possible to make "everyone become one" like that, but to embrace the differences and goodwillingly jump into the chaos pool of humanity. Then, if everyone does it altruistically, we may get to a point where we will actually end up united.

Then we could discuss if it is possible inside human nature. Anyways, the only way to get closer to it, is to sincerely improve oneself instead of trying to change others. There will always be division, but the point is to embrace it, not to fight it.

Your words remind me of three Chinese words：

求同存异：Seek common ground while reserving differences

八仙过海，各显神通： The Eight Immortals cross the sea, each showing their magical powers.

各司其职，各负其责：Each perform its own duties

"We are one " doesn't mean "we are the same".:cocktail:

[I am B]

Who sets the moral limit? Who says "this is the red line?"

If you describe "The moral value", what would that mean in simple words here?


What I mean with moral value is the essence of a thing that we may consider to be "right or wrong" regarding a direct or indirect interaction between two people.

For example, you could say "thou shall not kill". Which we all agree is a valid statement. You surely realise how "to kill" shouldn't be the right thing in the deepest level.

But, someone could have to kill as a need because there is someone else threatening him (even in a non voluntary way). It is a bit reductionist, but then we could say: "Thou shall not kill unless your life is being threatened." And suddenly, you'd have a ton of dead people, and another ton of murderers claiming their lives were threatened.

What I come to say with this, is that imho, as much as there may be a god/moral/universal law, it is impossible to put it down to paper, since it'd create interpretation and dilemma issues from the very first moment (besides corruption) , and sooner or later it would end up not working to unite people.



There are so many ways to play this ideology around, it would take more life time that i have available. But in short, you can think someone is not "altruistic" to you because they don't like the same purposes you like. Just the other day in Canada people were willing to burn books, is that something "altruistically" you would support? Then you may be an 'enemy' if you dislike it, for the rest of the world, right? Or... not?


I'm afraid you didn't understand me, probably I didn't explain myself good enough.

What I mean with altruistically is more in a passive way rather than active. It is not the best choice of a word, sorry for that.

I obviously wouldn't help anyone burn a book solely because I don't think thats the right thing to do, but neither would I try to impose my law or creed to them to stop doing it. Unless, someone else, who owns books, was getting his library burned down by these people and asked for help. This person, is essentially closer to my principles in this matter (even if she was a child eating mmurderhobo on the other side). Therefore, I'd consider the right thing to do to help her on this myself (only) , and then, on another instance, deal with her murderous side.

I didn't mean altruism to help my own beliefs for free, but to support each their own and the ones you deem likely. Always respecting if the choice is different and never expecting anything in return.

I believe that if everyone learnt to act independently, perfecting themselves and their morals, and did this instead of trying to unite themselves under a banner, law or creed, the world would actually be a more united place.



"Critical relation to the truth regime in which one lives" comes to mind

The only "truth" I'd hold onto is myself, and yet I can guarantee I question it every single moment xD (specially right now lol)

[Agape]

It’s inevitable consequence of hundreds of thousands of years of human existence scattered around the planet , tribes and continents isolated from each other for long time enough to shape us differently, it takes hundred thousand years to evolve specific genomic pattern we call “race”,
it takes ten thousand years to change a culture
but only short moment of time compared to the previous to establish religion and witness it falling from grace.

What is it that defines and separates people is their “patterns”, their genomic patterns, their paternity, the pattern of their cultures running for thousands of years and most recently, pattern of ideologies.
Not to forget the mandala of wealth in some people’s pockets 😅


All people keep arguing about in core is in favor of one of these patterns:

Example “my language ( add yours..) is the most beautiful, complicated, difficult to learn ..but expresses the teachings of Buddha the best” 😄

“My family pattern dates back to Adam and Eve.., the Sapta Rishi, Lao”tzu and so forth”.

“My country and the place I was born is the most special because ...goes back to people’s ancient origins”.

“The way my hair ( nose, ears, legs and arms) grows shows that I’m advanced kind of human” muhahaha


And so forth ..


People still keep attacking each other on behalf of their patterns. So many of them are almost washed out and disappeared, re-written by new templates,
in some of us these templates were woken or downloaded simultaneously to remind us we all contain piece of each other and all our history we are meant to grow over and surpass rather than to destroy it.

[Mashika]

Templates.. stereotypes...

How hard i had worked around that for the last 7 years. Yet never suceded, every month it was like, who are you again,? Spangliruskynipon?

Yeah

[Bubu]

I thought it was obvious to everyone that we have been manipulated?

I wonder what world could we have had now if we aren't manipulated.

Imagine a world back before the scamdemic and its barely two years of hundreds if not thousand of years of manipulation. How much hatred been added to the last two years of manipulation alone.

[Ratszinger]

Just like this here explains.The "Universe 25" experiment is one of the most terrifying experiments in the history of science, which, through the behavior of a colony of mice, is an attempt by scientists to explain human societies. The idea of ​​"Universe 25" Came from the American scientist John Calhoun, who created an "ideal world" in which hundreds of mice would live and reproduce. More specifically, Calhoun built the so-called "Paradise of Mice", a specially designed space where rodents had Abundance of food and water, as well as a large living space. In the beginning, he placed four pairs of mice that in a short time began to reproduce, resulting in their population growing rapidly. However, after 315 days their reproduction began to decrease significantly. When the number of rodents reached 600, a hierarchy was formed between them and then the so-called "wretches" appeared. The larger rodents began to attack the group, with the result that many males begin to "collapse" psychologically. As a result, the females did not protect themselves and in turn became aggressive towards their young. As time went on, the females showed more and more aggressive behavior, isolation elements and lack of reproductive mood. There was a low birth rate and, at the same time, an increase in mortality in younger rodents. Then, a new class of male rodents appeared, the so-called "beautiful mice". They refused to mate with the females or to "fight" for their space. All they cared about was food and sleep. At one point, "beautiful males" and "isolated females" made up the majority of the population. According to Calhoun, the death phase consisted of two stages: the "first death" and "second death." The former was characterized by the loss of purpose in life beyond mere existence — no desire to mate, raise young or establish a role within society. As time went on, juvenile mortality reached 100% and reproduction reached zero. Among the endangered mice, homosexuality was observed and, at the same time, cannibalism increased, despite the fact that there was plenty of food. Two years after the start of the experiment, the last baby of the colony was born. By 1973, he had killed the last mouse in the Universe 25. John Calhoun repeated the same experiment 25 more times, and each time the result was the same.
Calhoun's scientific work has been used as a model for interpreting social collapse, and his research serves as a focal point for the study of urban sociology.
We are currently witnessing direct parallels in today’s society..weak, feminized men with little to no skills and no protection instincts, and overly agitated and aggressive females with no maternal instincts.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Mike:
Default Re: How Did We Arrive In A World So Full Of Hate And Division?

Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Some of us have been saying this very same thing since we've been old enough to reason...

How old were you when you had these revelations? Sh!t I couldn't do much coherent reasoning till I was about 30 maybe Even now it's a struggle. The propoganda machine, the poisoned air, water, food, and the pressure to conform is ever present and I will unknowingly slip into sleep mode here n there. Sometimes I'll catch myself saying or thinking things that aren't my words or thoughts at all.


I had written a longish post in reply but it disappeared into the void.

When I was four I had occasion to stand up for my father who was being made fun of by the family for not being able to climb a tree. I remember distinctly how I stood defiantly in front of my father and summoned my power. I spoke in my power and the family laughed at how cute I was defending my father. In that instant I realized I was no longer that being who, just for a moment, I thought I still was. I would never again make the mistake that I was still a powerful being who commands respect and deference.

At ten I had my first awareness of the corruption in the world when I heard a news cast my father was listening to. In it the commentator was gushing at how marvellous a solution had been found for the polluted Rideau Canal in Ottawa, Canada. The solution was to divert the waste treatment effluent into the Ottawa River instead. I would dwell on that one a long time trying to make sense of such a non-solution.

Many more such insulting revelations would come my way and soon I got a rep for asking to many annoying questions. I never ever got satisfactory answers either, which truly bothered me and confused me greatly.

I would get ideas and my curiosity often got the best of me. I would be obsessed with my ideas to the exclusion of everything else. School often got in the way of my spurts of creativity, and I soon became disaffected with official learning. But my spurts were always short lived, as my attention would wander away to some other idea. I soon got a rep for never finishing anything (That was so hard on my psyche that I would devote a year later in life just to finish some of my more important projects).

Then came my 'how does that work phase' when I would take things apart to see how they work. But I could never figure out how to put them back together again. So I also got a rep of always breaking things.

And that sums up my life. Always atuned to corruption, always being carried away by my latest obsession, always researching how things work and sometimes breaking things in the process, and leaving behind a string of unfinished projects.

I now wake up and from that moment on my waking hours are spent exclusively on the corruption around me to the exclusion of my own little life.

In my philosophy, I cannot have a life until the corruption is addressed. I cannot live with it and be alright with it. I reject my own ambitions and resist everywhere I can a system that is unjust and must be fixed!

[gord]

Recognizing the depth of evil and corruption is a threat to people's egos, and often results in what psychologists call displacement - "Hate and Divison" - because that's emotionally easier and safer to deal with.

[rgray222]

Recognizing the depth of evil and corruption is a threat to people's egos, and often results in what psychologists call displacement - "Hate and Divison" - because that's emotionally easier and safer to deal with.

I agree, I came to the conclusion long ago that some people can never be convinced no matter how much empirical evidence and proof they are confronted with, they will not allow their reality to be shattered.

[Wind]

TYf2iM79qFo

[Bubu]

Just like this here explains.The "Universe 25" experiment is one of the most terrifying experiments in the history of science, which, through the behavior of a colony of mice, is an attempt by scientists to explain human societies. The idea of ​​"Universe 25" Came from the American scientist John Calhoun, who created an "ideal world" in which hundreds of mice would live and reproduce. More specifically, Calhoun built the so-called "Paradise of Mice", a specially designed space where rodents had Abundance of food and water, as well as a large living space. In the beginning, he placed four pairs of mice that in a short time began to reproduce, resulting in their population growing rapidly. However, after 315 days their reproduction began to decrease significantly. When the number of rodents reached 600, a hierarchy was formed between them and then the so-called "wretches" appeared. The larger rodents began to attack the group, with the result that many males begin to "collapse" psychologically. As a result, the females did not protect themselves and in turn became aggressive towards their young. As time went on, the females showed more and more aggressive behavior, isolation elements and lack of reproductive mood. There was a low birth rate and, at the same time, an increase in mortality in younger rodents. Then, a new class of male rodents appeared, the so-called "beautiful mice". They refused to mate with the females or to "fight" for their space. All they cared about was food and sleep. At one point, "beautiful males" and "isolated females" made up the majority of the population. According to Calhoun, the death phase consisted of two stages: the "first death" and "second death." The former was characterized by the loss of purpose in life beyond mere existence — no desire to mate, raise young or establish a role within society. As time went on, juvenile mortality reached 100% and reproduction reached zero. Among the endangered mice, homosexuality was observed and, at the same time, cannibalism increased, despite the fact that there was plenty of food. Two years after the start of the experiment, the last baby of the colony was born. By 1973, he had killed the last mouse in the Universe 25. John Calhoun repeated the same experiment 25 more times, and each time the result was the same.
Calhoun's scientific work has been used as a model for interpreting social collapse, and his research serves as a focal point for the study of urban sociology.
We are currently witnessing direct parallels in today’s society..weak, feminized men with little to no skills and no protection instincts, and overly agitated and aggressive females with no maternal instincts.

Since scientists and supposed experiments are notoriously liars, I will put this in the category of bedtime stories. Could be true but I do not use info that I have no way of verifying beyond doubt as cornerstone for my understanding especially of human nature.

26 same experiments is impressive and doubtful. I think 10 or less is more believable.

[rgray222]

TYf2iM79qFo

The question of war is one that I have grappled with for many years. I honestly feel no closer to an answer than when I started down that road. I have seen and read a lot of his stuff but had not seen that question asked of him. Short video with lots to think about.
Thanks for posting.

[jimbobule]

I agree with much in this thread ... many people trained and fanned out to organise a coup d'état on Western culture.
One of the most disturbing in your face things that very few have figured out is the weaponsiation of human instinct, something which I keenly observe but leaves the most intelligent bamboozled and complying.

Huxley mentioned how the human instinct or state was already well undertstood by the 1930s.
Think about it...if you undertstand it, all you have to do is invert it and implement strategies around it to confuse the living daylights out of everyone.

Here's my hypotheses....

We are not very much evolved past living in small family groups in forest enclaves. By NATURE, that makes us;

- Racist : we are wary of the traveller, especially someone of different creed. Will they bring disease or a small army to wipe us out?
- Sexist : the males hunted, the females reproduced and worked domestically. No female would be asked to protect a tribe a village.
- Ageist : Aged people can provide wisdom but don't reduce the workload burden
- Eugenicists : weak people can hold back a family, tribe or village or lead to weak offspring.

So, the bait and switch - weaponise our instincts against us to keep us passive and get everyone believing the lie of woke society.

A good example is 'taking the knee' in soccer/football i.e. aiming to stop racism. The reality, in the UK at least, is that there has not really been any racisim in professional football for decades. Why? Because many of a team's best payers have been black. So for a very practical reason it is a non-issue. And if you boo 'taking the knee' at football game...you are a racist..no you are booing against cultural marxism and the phoney problems it creates.

The PTB mock human kind by implementing this and using it as evidence of how the people are stupid. Very clever, insidious and a sheister trick.

What other basic instincts are weaponised? Think about it, they ALL are.

[Tommy Roxx]

I have to say that to me it seems the Biden administration has had a hand in fueling the hate in the US. He spent the first few months of his presidency almost continuously talking about systematic racism, all the rampant white supremacist everywhere republicans gathered in groups, and of course the racist police ( never mind the fact his own VP called him a racist during the primaries). Try as he might though it wasn't enough to get us all killing each other in the streets, not all of us.
So last night he dropped the not very effective racism narrative and went on a tirade against the unvaccinated. "We've run out of patience" , "you've cost us dearly", and my favorite, "protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated"( nevermind in Dec 2020 he's on the record saying he wouldn't trust the vaccine or the FDA).

I'm not going to write a long post pointing out all of Biden's numerous contradictions, illogical statements, and lies as far as the vaccine and the racism issues go as I'm sure most here know all about those just as well if not more than I, I'm just saying in my 51 years I have never seen a president try so hard to get people to be angry with each other. It's really beyond insane at this point.

[Mashika]

Many more such insulting revelations would come my way and soon I got a rep for asking to many annoying questions. I never ever got satisfactory answers either, which truly bothered me and confused me greatly.

Can totally relate to that, it does seem that most people here do as well :) People who look for answers, and people who "don't want to know", seem to gather together in some places of their own :)



I would get ideas and my curiosity often got the best of me. I would be obsessed with my ideas to the exclusion of everything else. School often got in the way of my spurts of creativity, and I soon became disaffected with official learning.

Same here lol, and even got me expelled from the church my family had been attending for 100+ years or so :) I'm still proud of that by the way :P



But my spurts were always short lived, as my attention would wander away to some other idea. I soon got a rep for never finishing anything (That was so hard on my psyche that I would devote a year later in life just to finish some of my more important projects).

Maybe you have not found yet something so interesting that it would capture you entirely? I'm kind of the other way, i'm focused so much on some things that people try to say "this is good enough" and i say "no, let's do another pass at it and make it better" and they get tired and bored and want to quit it, and i force them to do it and sometimes it works well and we get better things, but sometimes it doesn't and it's like "see we told you!". I tend to believe that it doesn't matter in the end if it didn't succeed the way one expected, as long as the effort was put on it



Then came my 'how does that work phase' when I would take things apart to see how they work. But I could never figure out how to put them back together again. So I also got a rep of always breaking things.

Something important to never lose is being able to break things apart. Said my grandfather :ROFL:



In my philosophy, I cannot have a life until the corruption is addressed. I cannot live with it and be alright with it. I reject my own ambitions and resist everywhere I can a system that is unjust and must be fixed!

Da

[Mashika]

I have to say that to me it seems the Biden administration has had a hand in fueling the hate in the US. He spent the first few months of his presidency almost continuously talking about systematic racism, all the rampant white supremacist everywhere republicans gathered in groups, and of course the racist police ( never mind the fact his own VP called him a racist during the primaries). Try as he might though it wasn't enough to get us all killing each other in the streets, not all of us.
So last night he dropped the not very effective racism narrative and went on a tirade against the unvaccinated. "We've run out of patience" , "you've cost us dearly", and my favorite, "protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated"( nevermind in Dec 2020 he's on the record saying he wouldn't trust the vaccine or the FDA).

I'm not going to write a long post pointing out all of Biden's numerous contradictions, illogical statements, and lies as far as the vaccine and the racism issues go as I'm sure most here know all about those just as well if not more than I, I'm just saying in my 51 years I have never seen a president try so hard to get people to be angry with each other. It's really beyond insane at this point.

Causing division is an art, and people get trained/educated for it, it was abstracted so much that they can't see it for what it is, instead they see "educated choices were made". Most governments work under that framework, not just the US one

[rgray222]

You're right. I am also diagnosed with schizophrenia by the mental hospital in my hometown.

I have spent the day thinking about your comment. I am not really sure what to say except I have someone very close to me that has been diagnosed with the same. I admire this person's struggle and I also value her different thinking on subjects. I get very irritated with the lack of effort and concern most people and the world at large have for those diagnosed with similar disorders.

Because I care about this person a lot I have made it my mission to read Jung, Erickson, Freud, Krauthammer and most recently Jordan Peterson. Getting through some of this material has taken time and it has been a real struggle but it has absolutely been worth the effort.

xidaijena, I wish you the best

[Apulu]

:bump:


This is pure hate. Deep hate. Hate so deep that people think you should die for thinking different.Yep. Here's an example. This kind of poison, targeted at people the guy doesn't even know, is pretty hard to understand.

My best guess is that something has happened to some people that they're quite unaware of, and in some sense — metaphorical or literal — they are no longer themselves.

https://projectavalon.net/James_Newburrie_tweet.gif

Wow. Classy!:facepalm:

My opinion: In the case of covid and vaccines: for the average person to accept that they've been lied to and manipulated on such a huge scale would also require them to question pretty much everything they ever regarded as true. Because if the president is lying and manipulating, and the doctors, the politicians, the community leaders, and anyone else who's regarded as a respectable authority...who's left? What's left?

It too traumatic for most, too emotionally challenging, too mind blowing, too everything! Some flat out don't have the capacity for it and the one's that do are too weary and scared to grapple with it. Much easier to remain in denial and return to their cozy lives. The ferocious denial and cruelty are the death throes of an overwhelmed system fighting to keep it's head in the sand. The irrationality is, ironically, a last gasp attempt at preserving their sanity.

I think precious few want true autonomy and sovereignty. The personal responsibility it requires is too much. Too many fall into existential crisis mode

This is it for me: Mike your extremely well put treatise I think holds exactly the right type of thinking regarding this. How easy it is to forget that the cognitive dissonance required to hold onto any kind of mainstream narrative, or otherwise, is almost without exception based on a fear that we can all appreciate. It's a fear that we all have, and it takes an exceptional, exceptional person indeed to be free from any kind of fear that holds the beliefs in place.

To properly challenge one's core and cherished beliefs is an extreme endeavour, no matter what we believe.

[Bo Atkinson]

"How Did We Arrive In A World So Full Of Hate And Division?"

Either we are one of the stubborn souls refusing to evolve and are gathered to this recycling center called earth, or we have a chance to share a shard of evolution with fellow humans, to prepare a way forward on the cosmic path, if we can endure it.

[DaveToo]

TYf2iM79qFo

Tolle's explanation could have been accepted up until the military industrial complex (MIC) came into being last century.
Once the MIC was formed, a switch was flipped.

Now wars are fought principally to keep the MIC machine well-oiled, funded and satiated, with no regard whatsoever for the sanctity of human life.

[onawah]

:bump:I'm only halfway through this myself, but it's absolutely brilliant.
Thanks for sharing!

I watched half of this video yesterday, and it very much ties into the long-term agenda and how it quietly crept into the educational system of the US.

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The Scientific Destruction Of Minds & Secret History of Western Education by Charlotte Iserbyt

Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt served as the head of policy at the Department of Education during the first administration of Ronald Reagan. While working there she discovered a long term strategic plan by the tax exempt foundations to transform America from a nation of rugged individualists and problem solvers to a country of servile, brainwashed minions who simply regurgitate whatever they're told.

Exclusive interview with Iserbyt breaks down how conditioning/training under a corporate agenda has replaced traditional education, leading to a deliberate dumbing down of Americans. Iserbyt further explains how Reagan signed agreements merging the U.S. and Soviet systems under the United Nations banner, turning over education and many other areas of public policy to global control.

This is a must see for anyone who wants to truly know why the education system is deliberately crafted to produce human drones with no critical thinking whose only skills are to be subservient, trust authority and follow orders.

Her book,'The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America' is free at
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com

[ThePythonicCow]

A Portland State University philosophy professor is resigning from his position after the university “Sacrificed Ideas For Ideology.”

In a scathing letter to the university’s Provost Susan Jeffords disseminated through former NYTimes Editor Bari Weiss’s substack, Peter Boghossian explained that the academic institution’s unwillingness to accept free thinking is harming education.

Back when I went to college, at Reed College, Portland, Oregon, in the 1960's, I knew of Portland State University. It is 3 miles (as the Doyle Owl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doyle_Owl) flies) northwest of Reed, across the Willamette River.

Reed, at that time was sometimes called "Berkeley North", as its humanities departments were becoming increasingly dominated by the leftist ideologues such as would go on to become the professors who would teach those who now teach our children.

One day in particular I recall.

While those in the hard sciences and math departments of Reed continued their studies and classes in the traditional manner, most of the humanities departments, professors and students, suspended their classes and went down to Portland State (PSU) to protest the Vietnam War. Perhaps a couple hundred Reedies joined perhaps a couple thousand PSU students in a protest.

The Portland police would end up arresting seven (if I recall correctly) of the protestors, out of that couple thousand protestors.

All seven of those arrested were Reedies. I was witness to one day in the rebirth of Marxism in America.

[Mike]

A Portland State University philosophy professor is resigning from his position after the university “Sacrificed Ideas For Ideology.”

In a scathing letter to the university’s Provost Susan Jeffords disseminated through former NYTimes Editor Bari Weiss’s substack, Peter Boghossian explained that the academic institution’s unwillingness to accept free thinking is harming education.

Back when I went to college, at Reed College, Portland, Oregon, in the 1960's, I knew of Portland State University. It is 3 miles (as the Doyle Owl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doyle_Owl) flies) northwest of Reed, across the Willamette River.

Reed, at that time was sometimes called "Berkeley North", as its humanities departments were becoming increasingly dominated by the leftist ideologues such as would go on to become the professors who would teach those who now teach our children.

One day in particular I recall.

While those in the hard sciences and math departments of Reed continued their studies and classes in the traditional manner, most of the humanities departments, professors and students, suspended their classes and went down to Portland State (PSU) to protest the Vietnam War. Perhaps a couple hundred Reedies joined perhaps a couple thousand PSU students in a protest.

The Portland police would end up arresting seven (if I recall correctly) of the protestors, out of that couple thousand protestors.

All seven of those arrested were Reedies. I was witness to one day in the rebirth of Marxism in America.



Very interesting. Far as I can tell the Marxist movement went sort of underground in the 70's and 80's and reemerged with a vengeance in the 90's...and having wed itself to postmodernism and critical theory is now representing itself as "wokeness" or "social justice". No longer confined to our universities, it's spread it's poison into nearly all American institutions from religion to sport to big tech to government to..well, you name it.

It's like a solvent in the sense that it destroys everything it comes into contact with. Marxism has been cloaked in "equity, diversity, and inclusion"; postmodernism has eroded rationality and our sense of objective reality; and Critical Theory has separated us all into nearly endless categories which has resulted in nothing but tribalism. As a 3 headed monster it's given us "wokeness" which I will say with little exaggeration is downright Satanic.

Eerily, Yuri Benzomov predicted all this with frightening accuracy back in the 80's. About 15 mins long:
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Here is an excellent Boghossian interview which I think is pretty relevant to everything being discussed in the thread. I think everyone needs to hear this. Little over an hour long for those that have the time:
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[xidaijena]

You're right. I am also diagnosed with schizophrenia by the mental hospital in my hometown.

I have spent the day thinking about your comment. I am not really sure what to say except I have someone very close to me that has been diagnosed with the same. I admire this person's struggle and I also value her different thinking on subjects. I get very irritated with the lack of effort and concern most people and the world at large have for those diagnosed with similar disorders.

Because I care about this person a lot I have made it my mission to read Jung, Erickson, Freud, Krauthammer and most recently Jordan Peterson. Getting through some of this material has taken time and it has been a real struggle but it has absolutely been worth the effort.

xidaijena, I wish you the best

Sorry, really? My comment cost you think such long time? I'm sorry.

My schizophrenia is already cured.

I find the reason: my family, my job and my faith.

They all make me crazy and need to me to pay my life to live them out.

Thank God( the Greatest Creator).

I agree with Agape saying. She is wise and full of female energy wisdom which I value a lot. like FEMALE XUEFENG TO ME.

I am now very peaceful. never such peaceful in my life. no battling in my heart. just peace.

Thank you ,dear .

May the Greatest Creator bless you and all friends here too.

[rgray222]

A Portland State University philosophy professor is resigning from his position after the university “Sacrificed Ideas For Ideology.”

In a scathing letter to the university’s Provost Susan Jeffords disseminated through former NYTimes Editor Bari Weiss’s substack, Peter Boghossian explained that the academic institution’s unwillingness to accept free thinking is harming education.

Back when I went to college, at Reed College, Portland, Oregon, in the 1960's, I knew of Portland State University. It is 3 miles (as the Doyle Owl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doyle_Owl) flies) northwest of Reed, across the Willamette River.

Reed, at that time was sometimes called "Berkeley North", as its humanities departments were becoming increasingly dominated by the leftist ideologues such as would go on to become the professors who would teach those who now teach our children.

One day in particular I recall.

While those in the hard sciences and math departments of Reed continued their studies and classes in the traditional manner, most of the humanities departments, professors and students, suspended their classes and went down to Portland State (PSU) to protest the Vietnam War. Perhaps a couple hundred Reedies joined perhaps a couple thousand PSU students in a protest.

The Portland police would end up arresting seven (if I recall correctly) of the protestors, out of that couple thousand protestors.

All seven of those arrested were Reedies. I was witness to one day in the rebirth of Marxism in America.

That really was the point of the post, back in the 60's there was a not so subtle shift away from capitalism and towards Marxism. There have been a few polls and a few articles that state that approximately 18% of college professors in the USA identify as Marxist. The true number must be substantially higher because those without tenure and those that simply don't want to be publicly identified as Marxist don't speak up. I suppose if the question was posed as who identifies as socialist the number would be around 60-70%.

Now that so many of these young minds have had time to leech into government and the workforce they are eroding the country from the inside out. Institutions and norms serve as shorthand for the guardrails and guideposts that shape the behaviour of actors within the American political system. The intentional destruction of the institutions is underway. The purpose of destroying these institutions is so they can be "reimagined" (lol) to fit the image of a different America.

The weapon of choice in the USA to accomplish this reimaging is race. Stalin and Mao did it with class and Hitler did it with Jews. The end results have always been catastrophic.

We are currently experiencing a rebellion by the elites directed at the working class. These elites couldn't care less about Democrats and Republicans, to them, it is all about power, money and control. They want us to be divided along political lines because it plants them firmly on the sidelines away from the anger, hate and division. I don't think that the elites factored in someone like Trump getting elected. That is precisely why there was such a radical and extreme reaction by the media. That's why there was election fraud on a scale never seen before. Trump was a wake-up call for the country. Was it enough? We will see.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

These elites could care less about Democrats and Republicans, to them, it is all about power, money and control.

I think you mean, "couldn't care less." I hate to nitpick, and usually I take no issue with the vagaries of UK/US English, but this one slightly maddens me, lol! Because when you say they "could care less", your meaning becomes: their degree of care is not all that low - and could be a lot lower.

Why do Americans say that! It's a contraction of "could not care less." That is the implication, and very purpose of this phrase. By omitting the negation "not", the phrase is rendered meaningless.

Sorry to be the grammar nazi here, but the butchery of this phrase has been used one too many times for my liking, and so now I must correct it, so there! :wink:


Their level of care is nil, it is absent, it is non-existent -- therefore they couldn't care less.