What happened to Gabby Petito?

[Mashika]

I know that i'm not supposed to be here on online at all, but seriously!

Here's a live stream about what's going on right now about her

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If you don't know what's going on so far here's a link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Gabrielle_Petito

[xidaijena]

Only her fiancé came back? lovers' issue?

I can only pray for her.

She is beautiful.

The video is long, I check the wiki, Masha, what is the video talking about?

The lady has mental problem?

So familar.

[Mashika]

Only her fiancé came back? lovers' issue?

I can only pray for her.

She is beautiful.

The video is long, I check the wiki, Masha, what is the video talking about?

The lady has mental problem?

So familar.


No, he returned in her van, without her, days and days before she was reported missing. He did not say she was missing or called the cops, he went to his home with her van and then hide away. Then her parents reported her missing after like 11 days after. He refuses to talk to police and he hired a lawyer as soon as he got home

Still his family doesn't want to talk to police and now they say he has run away from his home

She was not in mental issues, but the last time the cops see her she was in terrible stress, because they had an argument before

The cops said "two people went to the trip, just one returned"

And the guy returned in her van, so.. where is she?

[Savannah]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

[Mashika]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

Two reasons

It's on the "Current Events", which this is one of them

And second, it points to a sample of human nature and how it can go from right to wrong in a single moment. Or "Total happiness to complete Hell" in a moment

Please look deeper than what a news channel says. There is a message in "every single thing" like this that explains truth about human nature

And i hope, there's some kind of humanity left that cares for stuff like suffering and pain, just as it is happening right now

"It's not happening to me or my family, so who cares" it's a nice way to feel

Also let me remind you of this, in case you did not read it before:



The principal purpose of the Avalon Forum:

To encourage and support positive, constructive, and high quality dialog and networking with the goal of creating the future on Planet Earth for ourselves and our children that we want to experience.


By showing this, and by expecting people to care, you do that... By expecting people to be bored and say "why do i even care?" you do the opposite of the goals of Project Avalon

I hope this explains it all

[Elainie]

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Finding Gabby Petito REMOTE VIEWING

[Mashika]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

What is pertinent to Project Avalon, for you? May i ask?

Truly wondering now

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Finding Gabby Petito REMOTE VIEWING

Great to know people are caring, it must be hell for her parents and family, day by day, hour by hour.

I could not watch the video directly since it's blocked on my country, but i used a vpn and i'm watching it now. Anything is better than doing nothing i think, If she was my sister i would be completely destroyed, i can't even say how that would go, and i think most parents feel the same way. It's destructive

[Ascension]

Watching in awe as this story takes off, feeling strange energy around its rapid spread. I occasionally watch Agenda Free t.v. (which is not agenda-free btw) and noticed Steve Lookner covering this story. He never covers missing people or crime stories. Quickly, all the crime channels on you tube picked it up, as did the tarot card readers. Sean Hannity did an interview with one of the parents. And now it lands on Avalon. Anyway, it took off fast. I did my usual anagrams on words surrounding the story and both names came out with interesting decodes. Normally you get one or two that may parallel current events or hidden agendas but most are usually incongruent strings of words. This seemed over the top to me.

Petito = tiptoe

Gabrielle Petito=

I Elite Globe Trap
Lie Trap Tie Globe
Elite Lie Bog Trap
Lie Be Trap I Let Go
Reptile Obligate
Oblige Elite Trap
Go Be Reptile Tail
Pet Oblige Retail
Got Lie Trap Be Lie

Brian Laundrie=

Be Liar Ruin DNA
Dual Brain Rein
Biaural Dinner
Binaural Diner
Biannual Rider
Air Nailed Burn
Rain Ideal Burn
I Launder Brain
I Linear DNA Rub
In A Burned Lair
Deal Ruin Brain
Air Line DNA Rub
Lunar Brain Die
Ear Inlaid Burn
Be In Radial Urn
Urinal Brained
DNA Ruiner Bail
Let Go Be Reptilia
Rain Neural Bid
Bad Air Line Urn
Ail Under Brain
Dial Urban Rein
Alien Arid Burn
Rain Burned Ail

[Mike]

https://news.yahoo.com/brian-laundries-family-tells-police-034635949.html

The family of the boyfriend tells police and the FBI that he is now missing.

[Bill Ryan]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

(A friendly mod note)

One might say the same thing about the new ABBA thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116282-ABBA----40-years-younger-again). :)

I think Masha is quite right: this is about human nature. A tragic disappearance, and probably a crime. We do dig into many human condition issues here. (And the ABBA thread is also far more about the human condition than music.)

If members want to talk about something in our complex world that catches their attention and (especially) might have some deeper significance behind it, there's usually an opportunity here. Avalon threads constitute an everyone-welcome buffet on a pretty huge help-yourself table!

:focus:

[Pam]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

Two reasons

It's on the "Current Events", which this is one of them

And second, it points to a sample of human nature and how it can go from right to wrong in a single moment. Or "Total happiness to complete Hell" in a moment

Please look deeper than what a news channel says. There is a message in "every single thing" like this that explains truth about human nature

And i hope, there's some kind of humanity left that cares for stuff like suffering and pain, just as it is happening right now

"It's not happening to me or my family, so who cares" it's a nice way to feel

Also let me remind you of this, in case you did not read it before:



The principal purpose of the Avalon Forum:

To encourage and support positive, constructive, and high quality dialog and networking with the goal of creating the future on Planet Earth for ourselves and our children that we want to experience.


By showing this, and by expecting people to care, you do that... By expecting people to be bored and say "why do i even care?" you do the opposite of the goals of Project Avalon

I hope this explains it all

Mashika, I agree , this is a fascinating case about human nature. The boyfriend appeared to adore her and then he behaves in an insane way. I have always been fascinated by situations such as this. The Chris Watts and Scott Peterson cases run along the same lines. The men were labeled as being the "nicest" guys in the world.

I have come to understand over the last few years that being "nice" isn't always as it seems. Sometimes being an "adoring" boyfriend or girlfriend can be about control. So many angles here. She is a lovely young woman.

[Savannah]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

(A friendly mod note)

One might say the same thing about the new ABBA thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116282-ABBA----40-years-younger-again). :)

I think Masha is quite right: this is about human nature. A tragic disappearance, and probably a crime. We do dig into many human condition issues here. (And the ABBA thread is also far more about the human condition than music.)

If members want to talk about something in our complex world that catches their attention and (especially) might have some deeper significance behind it, there's usually an opportunity here. Avalon threads constitute an everyone-welcome buffet on a pretty huge help-yourself table!

:focus:

Well yes Bill as matter of fact I thought the Aba thread was not very interesting, but it’s your forum and has it occurred to you that maybe no one would say that to you for that reason. I have watched a moderator here attack everyone who supported Trump and sometimes brutally and without any justification and you said nothing. Yet you go after me for just questing someone’s motivation. You have hard time with some dissenting voices and not others. I can tell you exactly why I asked about this tread. I don’t look at violence and cruelty unless it has a higher purpose and I can learn something from it. I worked in a prison with murders, they kill for many reasons and there are a lot of them in the world killing people every day. So again I question why I should look at this one, the world is filled with it. I could post many more gruesome crimes, I could tell you more real horrific stories that would give you nightmares, stories that I may be the only one who knows about them; they are fascinating stories, but I wouldn’t do that because you pay a price for that information. Is this really the entertainment you want in your psyche. Remember, everything you see, you don’t have the privilege of using the delete button in your mind to remove it. I look at posts about crimes of the TPTB because I learn from that, there is nothing in this post but tragedy and lowering of my personal frequency, and for what? The Aba thread was uninteresting to some, some loved it, to each their own no harm no foul. The information here in my mind can be detrimental and the MSM is full of it, to tear you apart while entertaining you under the guise it’s a human interest story. I understand I can often be confrontational and don’t always come off as sweetness and light, however as Pam points out, you may be more fooled by those who present themselves that way than by those who tell you what they really think and are willing to take the heat for it!

[Bill Ryan]

Hey there, dear Savanna (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?26987-Savannah)h :heart: — Mine was a friendly note. It really was. I was responding to your comment to Masha (who is highly intelligent but also highly sensitive). Not "going after you" in any way.

All I was pointing out was that Avalon has threads on almost every topic one might possibly think of. Many members only ever read or post on a small proportion of those.
(Including me! There are many threads I don't read and many posts I'm unlikely to notice unless my attention is drawn to them. To read everything is impossible!)
The "buffet" analogy I think is quite a good one. When you visit the forum, just pass over anything you're not interested in. Make sure you're nourished by whatever interests or concerns you.

That's why we always try to make sure the titles reflect the topics quite well, to avoid wasting anyone's time. We're never trying to "clickbait" readers into anything at all.

So just ignore this thread. (I probably will, too.) And I agree 100% that the world is busting out with issues that are critically important. I post on those most of the time.

Every now and then I engage in something arguably more "trivial" (like ABBA, or the current and interesting members' photo thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116309-Then-and-now-how-the-years-have-aged--and-matured--us)) — but that's just to provide valuable balance in a time that's pretty stressful for many people.

I enjoy the Larsen (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110658-Gary-Larson--The-Far-Side--Legend.) and Leunig (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110648-Leunig) cartoon threads too. And sometimes I post photos of my mountain hikes, which I'm fully aware might only be of interest to a few. But that's all okay. Freedom means you can stop and read any thread you like, and simply pass by anything that feels unimportant. Just like anything else on the internet! It's all good.
:happy dog:

:focus:

[thepainterdoug]

Savannah, I feel Bills response above is sincere, and I too understood your question of the post, but then Bill mentioning his ABBA post etc, and I see Mashas reasoning as well. Masha had every right to post this because quite simply she is a member and she is entitled to do so.

So here we are, an amazing group of free thinkers and individuals, all going thru our own stresses and traumas . It is beyond amazing that I have never really had friction with anyone, well, just a little, but considering that we don't really know each other and come from far and wide, thats quite amazing.

Masha is a friend and a pretty sharp cookie at an age when i was pretty much a dunce. Savannah, we are close in age. Not that it matters but we have reference to a world different, yet the same

love and happiness all
pd

[Tommy Roxx]

As the father of 4, 2 of them young women this story pulled me in emotionally when I first saw it on YouTube, which was what, a week ago? I've been worried about Gabby's welfare ever since I heard all the details: the amount of time passed, and the boyfriend's behavior, mainly.
I was also very frustrated when I heard that he ran....sigh. I don't have much to add, I've been talking about it a lot with those around me and I guess I'm a bit drained at this point.

I can't imagine what her parents are going through. And his parents, too. Although, it's a bit of an ironic karmic slap for them that they refused to get their kid to help by sharing what he knew about Gabby and then only spoke to the authorities when they wanted help looking for their son but actually, that all could just be them sending the authorities on a wild goose chase while their boy exits the country, and not an ironic karmic slap at all. Who knows? But I really, really wish for the best.

I'm glad that this thread was posted although I understand what Savannah was saying about things bringing down one's energy so to speak but really, that's what 90% of the threads here could do to me if I let them..lol I'm sure most of you have noticed there's a lot of extremely messed up and negative things going on 'behind the scenes' and a lot of the Avalon threads deal with things ' behind the scenes '.

[xidaijena]

Only her fiancé came back? lovers' issue?

I can only pray for her.

She is beautiful.

The video is long, I check the wiki, Masha, what is the video talking about?

The lady has mental problem?

So familar.


No, he returned in her van, without her, days and days before she was reported missing. He did not say she was missing or called the cops, he went to his home with her van and then hide away. Then her parents reported her missing after like 11 days after. He refuses to talk to police and he hired a lawyer as soon as he got home

Still his family doesn't want to talk to police and now they say he has run away from his home

She was not in mental issues, but the last time the cops see her she was in terrible stress, because they had an argument before

The cops said "two people went to the trip, just one returned"

And the guy returned in her van, so.. where is she?

I don't know where she is.

Pray for her.

May God protect her.

[Mercedes]

I think they found her body, no details yet.


P01y49VPaFk

[Ascension]

Come on now...how can all this be coincidental? Their you tube page is called nomadic statik which anagrams to mask dictation, van life=evil fan. The site has 2.3 million views. Millions of people have been investing emotion into this sad story and yet, something about it screams set up to me.

The couple just happened to be stopped by police and filmed for over an hour before her disappearance. Somebody happened to capture footage of the van parked along the road in the Grand Tetons, so many little things giving "life" to this story.

Oh, and the one video they posted has incredible production quality with drone shots and music and editing, while at the same time the boyfriend told the police it was her little project like he wasn't even involved at all. He had to have been involved in a major way with camera operations at the very least.

How could circumstance conspire to bring about a story which would garner such attention and emotion and yet have so many hidden aspects of embedded evil. How many millions have repeated the name Gabby Petito? (bag by tiptoe)

On the other hand, how could this possibly be a conspiracy?

[Mashika]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

(A friendly mod note)

One might say the same thing about the new ABBA thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116282-ABBA----40-years-younger-again). :)

I think Masha is quite right: this is about human nature. A tragic disappearance, and probably a crime. We do dig into many human condition issues here. (And the ABBA thread is also far more about the human condition than music.)

If members want to talk about something in our complex world that catches their attention and (especially) might have some deeper significance behind it, there's usually an opportunity here. Avalon threads constitute an everyone-welcome buffet on a pretty huge help-yourself table!

:focus:

Well yes Bill as matter of fact I thought the Aba thread was not very interesting, but it’s your forum and has it occurred to you that maybe no one would say that to you for that reason. I have watched a moderator here attack everyone who supported Trump and sometimes brutally and without any justification and you said nothing. Yet you go after me for just questing someone’s motivation. You have hard time with some dissenting voices and not others. I can tell you exactly why I asked about this tread. I don’t look at violence and cruelty unless it has a higher purpose and I can learn something from it. I worked in a prison with murders, they kill for many reasons and there are a lot of them in the world killing people every day. So again I question why I should look at this one, the world is filled with it. I could post many more gruesome crimes, I could tell you more real horrific stories that would give you nightmares, stories that I may be the only one who knows about them; they are fascinating stories, but I wouldn’t do that because you pay a price for that information. Is this really the entertainment you want in your psyche. Remember, everything you see, you don’t have the privilege of using the delete button in your mind to remove it. I look at posts about crimes of the TPTB because I learn from that, there is nothing in this post but tragedy and lowering of my personal frequency, and for what? The Aba thread was uninteresting to some, some loved it, to each their own no harm no foul. The information here in my mind can be detrimental and the MSM is full of it, to tear you apart while entertaining you under the guise it’s a human interest story. I understand I can often be confrontational and don’t always come off as sweetness and light, however as Pam points out, you may be more fooled by those who present themselves that way than by those who tell you what they really think and are willing to take the heat for it!

Your reference to "high frequencies" and the way you have acted here, are very conflicting. But i don't expect you to reply to me, as i have learned from other people in the past, once you think someone is 'below' you, you don't find the time or care for it

And that's the ironic part of it all, the idea that you somehow have 'high frequencies",whatever that means to you, while also being so "low on frequencies" that you consider other people's suffering as 'lesser than me' and 'not worth my time'. The joke tells itself, honestly

You sound like: "I"m so high above this mere human matters that i can't be bothered with it, show me something interesting, i could not care less about the suffering of these peasants!"

That's not very "high frequency", honestly.

What's your take on that?

I think a bit of humbleness would not hurt, or even, may i dare say, true understanding of what suffering is. (And this coming from me, possibly one of the most arrogant persons who have ever stepped on Avalon)

The world doesn't revolve around what you have experienced. And the world doesn't need to follow and cut into your current perspective of life. It.Does.Not.Matter. Someone else always has more experience, and there's always a bigger fish...

Just because you experienced some things here and there, doesn't mean no one else has the right to learn and go at their own time, or pace, learning the same things.

I'm sorry if you had a bad life experience, your not the only one! I did too, and i did not lose my soul through it, i care about people mostly more than i care about me, in the end, and it has costly bad in some ways.

By your own words, we seem to not be at your high level of understanding of these things. I guess you should post a list of things you consider worthy of your interest, so that we all in Avalon skip and avoid offending your taste of news and research, and focus just on your own needs. As clearly this world revolves around what you consider interesting and nothing else. Yes i'm being difficult there, i mean to :P

But let me be serious now:

I truly find it funny, but even more, very interesting, at least for today, that you consider you have "high frequencies that can be lowered by learning about someone else's suffering". While doing the total opposite of it. And you are actually showing a lack of care of anything but your own happiness. Which is ego and selfishness, which completely goes and destroys anything you think "high frequencies" mean :)

This Ego and "me me me" attitude? That's considered at least, the lowest of "frequencies" as far as i understand your misunderstanding of what "frequencies" mean

Oh also, please, if, and that's a big IF, you ever reply, consider this: Age and experience are not related, so if you are considering saying something about my age and what i have said or may possibly say later on. Please don't. Talk about what is being said, leave age as far as you can possibly leave it, from your mind. It's not at all meaningful, in the context of this conversation. Hope you understand that




So again I question why I should look at this one, the world is filled with it. I could post many more gruesome crimes, I could tell you more real horrific stories that would give you nightmares, stories that I may be the only one who knows about them; they are fascinating stories, but I wouldn’t do that because you pay a price for that information. Is this really the entertainment you want in your psyche.

I have seen more than that, i have seen things that would make you cry

Like what? Kids blown up to pieces in the floor of their living room? Older people sitting on their couches, barely breathing and crying like little kids when the soldiers come running to help them?

Or maybe 60+ year olds crying and some of them in their last minutes of life grasping for air and crying in their last breath "mommy!" while they hold into a random leaf or stone they found while trying to escape the murderous and terrible fall of rockets and shells into their homes?

Or maybe young girls undressed on the streets and raped who tried to run away by dragging their bodies across the road leaving a trace of blood all over only to die on the other side of that road because they completely bleed out, and grasping in their little hands a leaf or whatever they could find to grasp in a last attempt to find strenth?

Give me a f*king break.

Whatever you experienced, it's yours only, this ridiculous attempt to claim so high level of entitlement means nothing to me. I have seen things too, possibly even worse

I was a soldier, have you ever cleared a village and go house to house and then you, before reaching the house, notice the silence around, not even the birds are around, but you see them on top of trees, all silent there, watching from afar, and the air is dense, very dense. There's something in the air and then you know someone just recently died there, and you have to clear the house and move on, and on that house, inside, you find death, kids and parents and pets and so on.

*Take pictures because once you move and the recovery team arrives, the scene may have changed, pick up whatever you can to keep moving and let's move on, pretend you did not see a young girl blown up to pieces and her dad rotting away on the next corner because they probably happened 15/20 days ago and now they are blue and bloated*

Go house by house finding similar, pretend is not important, keep going, you have a mission, you are a soldier! Remember your goals, don't stop or other will suffer the same, you are here to save the most you can, see this as a way to let you know that other's are about to suffer the same, hurry soldier! Any moment wasted, may be another life!

Village is clear! And there are 100 dead people, mostly children and woman, but no soldier got hurt, so it's a "white day"! Hurra!

So spare me this crap about how much you have seen with prisoners and blah blah blah. You would not last a day with that attitude out there, With this "i need special treatment" attitude

Just now see? Now you made me angry. I can't be angry, i may die out of stupidity, and this is why i requested not to be allowed to post

Stupid selfishness and "i don't care about other's suffering. I'm above that"

Sure you are

Enough!

ETA:

And just so you know

Any soldier out there who has not lost it, will tell you this, once you lose your care for human life and stop caring about their suffering, you are not a soldier anymore, you are a murderer. Never stop caring about human life, or you become the enemy

And i bet all army veterans here on Avalon can confirm this, if they wish so

ETA 2:

Once you find a kid or a grown up with their inner stomach all blown out and you know they have 5/10 minutes to live and they are desperately trying to find hope, what do you say to them? other than the BS you think you would say right now? What do you actually said? When the air is full of blood and other things and you can barely breath next to them and you know their suffering is immense and they will pass soon and you have to be there for them, say it. Don't let the smell of their inner organs allow you to throw up, it's a disgrace, they expect you to be strong for them, keep yourself alert and strong, grab their hands and lie to them while they go to sleep the endless night

But are you going to say the BS you were told to say? Are you human?

Note to MODs:

Please leave this here, i was not supposed to talk about this, and i did not intended to, but seeing as what has happened i can see here a chance to show how things happen out there, and it's just not about me, but about what thousands others live out there day by day. I'm willing, even if i was told not to, i'm willing to express this now.

But i won't move much more forward than this. I just need and want to let people know that there are things happening that are way beyond, and that just because someone thinks all they have experienced is the top most of it, that's not true, "There's always a bigger fish"

It doesn't matter if people believe or not, is not meant for that, i'm not trying to claim entitlement or any kind of show off or street credit. Whatever happens, happens next

[Mashika]

Come on now...how can all this be coincidental? Their you tube page is called nomadic statik which anagrams to mask dictation, van life=evil fan. The site has 2.3 million views. Millions of people have been investing emotion into this sad story and yet, something about it screams set up to me.

The couple just happened to be stopped by police and filmed for over an hour before her disappearance. Somebody happened to capture footage of the van parked along the road in the Grand Tetons, so many little things giving "life" to this story.

Oh, and the one video they posted has incredible production quality with drone shots and music and editing, while at the same time the boyfriend told the police it was her little project like he wasn't even involved at all. He had to have been involved in a major way with camera operations at the very least.

How could circumstance conspire to bring about a story which would garner such attention and emotion and yet have so many hidden aspects of embedded evil. How many millions have repeated the name Gabby Petito? (bag by tiptoe)

On the other hand, how could this possibly be a conspiracy?

I don't understand what this means "bag by tiptoe", please explain. Please remember i don't have your language as my own, so if this is a reference to something else in your culture, let me know by a reference to it. As it is, it's not meaning anything at all to me

If you mean something related to the US, then let me remind you that there's like 7+ billion people out there, and a very small fraction of that is US citizens. So unless you are claiming everything that happens and it takes a global effect happens in the US, which a lot of people do. Then please be more clear.

Actually be more clear in both ways, please

[Mashika]

I think they found her body, no details yet.


P01y49VPaFk

Yes, i'm so sad about this, i don't think there's any chance they will say "it's not her" at this point, and that's truly lamentable, as i have experienced just the same with close family and other friends

There's something very dark in all of this, and that's why i posted it, i did not want to go with the "morbid" cheap news or entertainment aspect of it, but rather to the human side

[Ascension]

Come on now...how can all this be coincidental? Their you tube page is called nomadic statik which anagrams to mask dictation, van life=evil fan. The site has 2.3 million views. Millions of people have been investing emotion into this sad story and yet, something about it screams set up to me.

The couple just happened to be stopped by police and filmed for over an hour before her disappearance. Somebody happened to capture footage of the van parked along the road in the Grand Tetons, so many little things giving "life" to this story.

Oh, and the one video they posted has incredible production quality with drone shots and music and editing, while at the same time the boyfriend told the police it was her little project like he wasn't even involved at all. He had to have been involved in a major way with camera operations at the very least.

How could circumstance conspire to bring about a story which would garner such attention and emotion and yet have so many hidden aspects of embedded evil. How many millions have repeated the name Gabby Petito? (bag by tiptoe)

On the other hand, how could this possibly be a conspiracy?

I don't understand what this means "bag by tiptoe", please explain. Please remember i don't have your language as my own, so if this is a reference to something else in your culture, let me know by a reference to it. As it is, it's not meaning anything at all to me

If you mean something related to the US, then let me remind you that there's like 7+ billion people out there, and a very small fraction of that is US citizens. So unless you are claiming everything that happens and it takes a global effect happens in the US, which a lot of people do. Then please be more clear.

Actually be more clear in both ways, please

No, I am referring to spell casting - hidden meaning in rearranged letters. The agenda is being carried out globally but with many eyes on what happens in the US. "Bag" means to capture or to place in a body bag. "By Tiptoe", means making progress stealthily...as in totalitarian tiptoe. Gabby's name literally translates to capture by tiptoe.

My point was that many things about this story contain rearranged words that millions of people are viewing/speaking out loud which are attached to a global agenda. I suspect this is a planted story, but have difficulty wrapping my head around how that could be achieved.

[Mashika]

spell casting


But under what magic system?

I think i understand your meaning but it's important to be more specific since it applies different to cultures and "worlds" all existing around us at the same time, as it happens right now

[Mashika]

Maybe this thread should be closed now, i don't see the point of keeping it going on.

It has been made clear now that Gabby is gone, and there's nothing else to do about it

There's a lot of suffering going on and i don't think this thread can go anywhere else but to derail into other topics

If there's something someone thinks may be related to her, then it may be possible to open a new thread for that. This one wasn't about it, as far as i feel or felt when i opened it

Thanks

[Ascension]

spell casting


But under what magic system?

I think i understand your meaning but it's important to be more specific since it applies different to cultures and "worlds" all existing around us at the same time, as it happens right now

To be honest, I have no idea which magic system. I'm not well-versed in conception or application of magic. I was simply pointing out the anomalies surrounding this event. I noticed the speed and veracity of its rise in public consciousness and the large number of anagrams associated with it. I wish I understood more about the "reality" surrounding us.

[Tintin]

A related piece of news here which on the face of it may have some weight :noidea:

Link: https://twitter.com/i/events/1439725235217993729

Body found in Bridger-Teton National Forest in Wyoming ‘consistent with the description’ of Gabby Petito, according to FBI

A body discovered Sunday in Wyoming is believed to be 22-year-old Gabrielle “Gabby” Petito, according to authorities. FBI Supervisory Special Agent Charles Jones said in a press conference the body was found by law enforcement agents who had been searching the vicinity of Spread Creek Dispersed Camping Area in the Bridger-Teton National Forest for two days.
Photo via @CTVNews

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[Brenya]

Maybe this thread should be closed now, i don't see the point of keeping it going on.

It has been made clear now that Gabby is gone, and there's nothing else to do about it

There's a lot of suffering going on and i don't think this thread can go anywhere else but to derail into other topics

If there's something someone thinks may be related to her, then it may be possible to open a new thread for that. This one wasn't about it, as far as i feel or felt when i opened it

Thanks



Yes, perhaps it should be closed now, but it was a valuable thread, not only to ponder the what happened to the beautiful young woman, but also to consider how and why some issues cut deeply into our psyche.

When a story gains so much traction as this one did, it says something about us as a society. The story of Gabby affected millions and that's because they potentially saw themselves/families/friends in the situation. It was a fatal combination of youth, beauty, and innocence, combined with an inability to make sound judgments, and the deeper threat of obsessive love?

At any rate, it drove thousands of would-be psychics to meditate on Gabby's whereabouts, read tarot cards, and use other methods of divination in an attempt to find her.

And then we learn that a couple who quite by chance, happened to catch a quick glimpse of the van on their dashcam. Their video led law enforcement to the body. The fascinating thing is that the couple were on an annual trip they take in memory of their child who died in a vehicle accident a few years prior when they were taking him to Disney. While the outcome isn't what anyone wanted--it's worth considering whether it was a coincidence that the parents who lost a child were able to offer answers to another set of parents who lost Gabby.

And, why were you drawn to this young woman's saga? I propose that, like others, you're somewhat of an empath. Energy moves along unseen in this world, but we can witness its results. I would not listen to those who feel that caring and pondering the safety of others is a low-level energy. It's actually one of the highest forms of energy--it's just that they do not yet know how to balance that energy so it throws them off. You're not an ambulance-chaser--you're part of a larger answer that works in invisible coordination with other energies to find the solutions to conflicts.

[I am B]

A guy kills a girl in a super obvious way, and some incompetent cops mess it up.

Question why is this EVERYWHERE around the news. I mentioned it on another thread, we're having "weird" mediatic topics suddenly flood the news in spain too.

We should be asking why. What is being hidden? what are they building up? Why did this happen?

I don't think this is just some regular casual news.

[Tommy Roxx]

Poor Gabby. Rest in peace. Despite the fact that the police video caught her on a bad day she still seemed like a sweet kid to me. She was polite and informative to the officers through her upset. Of course I didn't know her this was just the impression I got from that vid and all the pictures they've been showing. My heart breaks for her family.

[Savannah]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

(A friendly mod note)

One might say the same thing about the new ABBA thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116282-ABBA----40-years-younger-again). :)

I think Masha is quite right: this is about human nature. A tragic disappearance, and probably a crime. We do dig into many human condition issues here. (And the ABBA thread is also far more about the human condition than music.)

If members want to talk about something in our complex world that catches their attention and (especially) might have some deeper significance behind it, there's usually an opportunity here. Avalon threads constitute an everyone-welcome buffet on a pretty huge help-yourself table!

:focus:

Well yes Bill as matter of fact I thought the Aba thread was not very interesting, but it’s your forum and has it occurred to you that maybe no one would say that to you for that reason. I have watched a moderator here attack everyone who supported Trump and sometimes brutally and without any justification and you said nothing. Yet you go after me for just questing someone’s motivation. You have hard time with some dissenting voices and not others. I can tell you exactly why I asked about this tread. I don’t look at violence and cruelty unless it has a higher purpose and I can learn something from it. I worked in a prison with murders, they kill for many reasons and there are a lot of them in the world killing people every day. So again I question why I should look at this one, the world is filled with it. I could post many more gruesome crimes, I could tell you more real horrific stories that would give you nightmares, stories that I may be the only one who knows about them; they are fascinating stories, but I wouldn’t do that because you pay a price for that information. Is this really the entertainment you want in your psyche. Remember, everything you see, you don’t have the privilege of using the delete button in your mind to remove it. I look at posts about crimes of the TPTB because I learn from that, there is nothing in this post but tragedy and lowering of my personal frequency, and for what? The Aba thread was uninteresting to some, some loved it, to each their own no harm no foul. The information here in my mind can be detrimental and the MSM is full of it, to tear you apart while entertaining you under the guise it’s a human interest story. I understand I can often be confrontational and don’t always come off as sweetness and light, however as Pam points out, you may be more fooled by those who present themselves that way than by those who tell you what they really think and are willing to take the heat for it!

Your reference to "high frequencies" and the way you have acted here, are very conflicting. But i don't expect you to reply to me, as i have learned from other people in the past, once you think someone is 'below' you, you don't find the time or care for it

And that's the ironic part of it all, the idea that you somehow have 'high frequencies",whatever that means to you, while also being so "low on frequencies" that you consider other people's suffering as 'lesser than me' and 'not worth my time'. The joke tells itself, honestly

You sound like: "I"m so high above this mere human matters that i can't be bothered with it, show me something interesting, i could not care less about the suffering of these peasants!"

That's not very "high frequency", honestly.

What's your take on that?

I think a bit of humbleness would not hurt, or even, may i dare say, true understanding of what suffering is. (And this coming from me, possibly one of the most arrogant persons who have ever stepped on Avalon)

The world doesn't revolve around what you have experienced. And the world doesn't need to follow and cut into your current perspective of life. It.Does.Not.Matter. Someone else always has more experience, and there's always a bigger fish...

Just because you experienced some things here and there, doesn't mean no one else has the right to learn and go at their own time, or pace, learning the same things.

I'm sorry if you had a bad life experience, your not the only one! I did too, and i did not lose my soul through it, i care about people mostly more than i care about me, in the end, and it has costly bad in some ways.

By your own words, we seem to not be at your high level of understanding of these things. I guess you should post a list of things you consider worthy of your interest, so that we all in Avalon skip and avoid offending your taste of news and research, and focus just on your own needs. As clearly this world revolves around what you consider interesting and nothing else. Yes i'm being difficult there, i mean to :P

But let me be serious now:

I truly find it funny, but even more, very interesting, at least for today, that you consider you have "high frequencies that can be lowered by learning about someone else's suffering". While doing the total opposite of it. And you are actually showing a lack of care of anything but your own happiness. Which is ego and selfishness, which completely goes and destroys anything you think "high frequencies" mean :)

This Ego and "me me me" attitude? That's considered at least, the lowest of "frequencies" as far as i understand your misunderstanding of what "frequencies" mean

Oh also, please, if, and that's a big IF, you ever reply, consider this: Age and experience are not related, so if you are considering saying something about my age and what i have said or may possibly say later on. Please don't. Talk about what is being said, leave age as far as you can possibly leave it, from your mind. It's not at all meaningful, in the context of this conversation. Hope you understand that




So again I question why I should look at this one, the world is filled with it. I could post many more gruesome crimes, I could tell you more real horrific stories that would give you nightmares, stories that I may be the only one who knows about them; they are fascinating stories, but I wouldn’t do that because you pay a price for that information. Is this really the entertainment you want in your psyche.

I have seen more than that, i have seen things that would make you cry

Like what? Kids blown up to pieces in the floor of their living room? Older people sitting on their couches, barely breathing and crying like little kids when the soldiers come running to help them?

Or maybe 60+ year olds crying and some of them in their last minutes of life grasping for air and crying in their last breath "mommy!" while they hold into a random leaf or stone they found while trying to escape the murderous and terrible fall of rockets and shells into their homes?

Or maybe young girls undressed on the streets and raped who tried to run away by dragging their bodies across the road leaving a trace of blood all over only to die on the other side of that road because they completely bleed out, and grasping in their little hands a leaf or whatever they could find to grasp in a last attempt to find strenth?

Give me a f*king break.

Whatever you experienced, it's yours only, this ridiculous attempt to claim so high level of entitlement means nothing to me. I have seen things too, possibly even worse

I was a soldier, have you ever cleared a village and go house to house and then you, before reaching the house, notice the silence around, not even the birds are around, but you see them on top of trees, all silent there, watching from afar, and the air is dense, very dense. There's something in the air and then you know someone just recently died there, and you have to clear the house and move on, and on that house, inside, you find death, kids and parents and pets and so on.

*Take pictures because once you move and the recovery team arrives, the scene may have changed, pick up whatever you can to keep moving and let's move on, pretend you did not see a young girl blown up to pieces and her dad rotting away on the next corner because they probably happened 15/20 days ago and now they are blue and bloated*

Go house by house finding similar, pretend is not important, keep going, you have a mission, you are a soldier! Remember your goals, don't stop or other will suffer the same, you are here to save the most you can, see this as a way to let you know that other's are about to suffer the same, hurry soldier! Any moment wasted, may be another life!

Village is clear! And there are 100 dead people, mostly children and woman, but no soldier got hurt, so it's a "white day"! Hurra!

So spare me this crap about how much you have seen with prisoners and blah blah blah. You would not last a day with that attitude out there, With this "i need special treatment" attitude

Just now see? Now you made me angry. I can't be angry, i may die out of stupidity, and this is why i requested not to be allowed to post

Stupid selfishness and "i don't care about other's suffering. I'm above that"

Sure you are

Enough!

ETA:

And just so you know

Any soldier out there who has not lost it, will tell you this, once you lose your care for human life and stop caring about their suffering, you are not a soldier anymore, you are a murderer. Never stop caring about human life, or you become the enemy

And i bet all army veterans here on Avalon can confirm this, if they wish so

ETA 2:

Once you find a kid or a grown up with their inner stomach all blown out and you know they have 5/10 minutes to live and they are desperately trying to find hope, what do you say to them? other than the BS you think you would say right now? What do you actually said? When the air is full of blood and other things and you can barely breath next to them and you know their suffering is immense and they will pass soon and you have to be there for them, say it. Don't let the smell of their inner organs allow you to throw up, it's a disgrace, they expect you to be strong for them, keep yourself alert and strong, grab their hands and lie to them while they go to sleep the endless night

But are you going to say the BS you were told to say? Are you human?

Note to MODs:

Please leave this here, i was not supposed to talk about this, and i did not intended to, but seeing as what has happened i can see here a chance to show how things happen out there, and it's just not about me, but about what thousands others live out there day by day. I'm willing, even if i was told not to, i'm willing to express this now.

But i won't move much more forward than this. I just need and want to let people know that there are things happening that are way beyond, and that just because someone thinks all they have experienced is the top most of it, that's not true, "There's always a bigger fish"

It doesn't matter if people believe or not, is not meant for that, i'm not trying to claim entitlement or any kind of show off or street credit. Whatever happens, happens next


I will not get into a childish back an forth argument of baseless accusations with you. I can just say once and leave at this: I have spent my entire life as a therapist and the last 15 years treating 911 fire fighters, soldiers and people exposed to satanic abuse and gang violence. You know nothing about me or my motivations and your accusations say more about you than me. I will ignore this thread going forward.

[Mashika]

Lots of drama in the world, can I ask why you feel this is pertinent to Avalon?

(A friendly mod note)

One might say the same thing about the new ABBA thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116282-ABBA----40-years-younger-again). :)

I think Masha is quite right: this is about human nature. A tragic disappearance, and probably a crime. We do dig into many human condition issues here. (And the ABBA thread is also far more about the human condition than music.)

If members want to talk about something in our complex world that catches their attention and (especially) might have some deeper significance behind it, there's usually an opportunity here. Avalon threads constitute an everyone-welcome buffet on a pretty huge help-yourself table!

:focus:

Well yes Bill as matter of fact I thought the Aba thread was not very interesting, but it’s your forum and has it occurred to you that maybe no one would say that to you for that reason. I have watched a moderator here attack everyone who supported Trump and sometimes brutally and without any justification and you said nothing. Yet you go after me for just questing someone’s motivation. You have hard time with some dissenting voices and not others. I can tell you exactly why I asked about this tread. I don’t look at violence and cruelty unless it has a higher purpose and I can learn something from it. I worked in a prison with murders, they kill for many reasons and there are a lot of them in the world killing people every day. So again I question why I should look at this one, the world is filled with it. I could post many more gruesome crimes, I could tell you more real horrific stories that would give you nightmares, stories that I may be the only one who knows about them; they are fascinating stories, but I wouldn’t do that because you pay a price for that information. Is this really the entertainment you want in your psyche. Remember, everything you see, you don’t have the privilege of using the delete button in your mind to remove it. I look at posts about crimes of the TPTB because I learn from that, there is nothing in this post but tragedy and lowering of my personal frequency, and for what? The Aba thread was uninteresting to some, some loved it, to each their own no harm no foul. The information here in my mind can be detrimental and the MSM is full of it, to tear you apart while entertaining you under the guise it’s a human interest story. I understand I can often be confrontational and don’t always come off as sweetness and light, however as Pam points out, you may be more fooled by those who present themselves that way than by those who tell you what they really think and are willing to take the heat for it!

Your reference to "high frequencies" and the way you have acted here, are very conflicting. But i don't expect you to reply to me, as i have learned from other people in the past, once you think someone is 'below' you, you don't find the time or care for it

And that's the ironic part of it all, the idea that you somehow have 'high frequencies",whatever that means to you, while also being so "low on frequencies" that you consider other people's suffering as 'lesser than me' and 'not worth my time'. The joke tells itself, honestly

You sound like: "I"m so high above this mere human matters that i can't be bothered with it, show me something interesting, i could not care less about the suffering of these peasants!"

That's not very "high frequency", honestly.

What's your take on that?

I think a bit of humbleness would not hurt, or even, may i dare say, true understanding of what suffering is. (And this coming from me, possibly one of the most arrogant persons who have ever stepped on Avalon)

The world doesn't revolve around what you have experienced. And the world doesn't need to follow and cut into your current perspective of life. It.Does.Not.Matter. Someone else always has more experience, and there's always a bigger fish...

Just because you experienced some things here and there, doesn't mean no one else has the right to learn and go at their own time, or pace, learning the same things.

I'm sorry if you had a bad life experience, your not the only one! I did too, and i did not lose my soul through it, i care about people mostly more than i care about me, in the end, and it has costly bad in some ways.

By your own words, we seem to not be at your high level of understanding of these things. I guess you should post a list of things you consider worthy of your interest, so that we all in Avalon skip and avoid offending your taste of news and research, and focus just on your own needs. As clearly this world revolves around what you consider interesting and nothing else. Yes i'm being difficult there, i mean to :P

But let me be serious now:

I truly find it funny, but even more, very interesting, at least for today, that you consider you have "high frequencies that can be lowered by learning about someone else's suffering". While doing the total opposite of it. And you are actually showing a lack of care of anything but your own happiness. Which is ego and selfishness, which completely goes and destroys anything you think "high frequencies" mean :)

This Ego and "me me me" attitude? That's considered at least, the lowest of "frequencies" as far as i understand your misunderstanding of what "frequencies" mean

Oh also, please, if, and that's a big IF, you ever reply, consider this: Age and experience are not related, so if you are considering saying something about my age and what i have said or may possibly say later on. Please don't. Talk about what is being said, leave age as far as you can possibly leave it, from your mind. It's not at all meaningful, in the context of this conversation. Hope you understand that




So again I question why I should look at this one, the world is filled with it. I could post many more gruesome crimes, I could tell you more real horrific stories that would give you nightmares, stories that I may be the only one who knows about them; they are fascinating stories, but I wouldn’t do that because you pay a price for that information. Is this really the entertainment you want in your psyche.

I have seen more than that, i have seen things that would make you cry

Like what? Kids blown up to pieces in the floor of their living room? Older people sitting on their couches, barely breathing and crying like little kids when the soldiers come running to help them?

Or maybe 60+ year olds crying and some of them in their last minutes of life grasping for air and crying in their last breath "mommy!" while they hold into a random leaf or stone they found while trying to escape the murderous and terrible fall of rockets and shells into their homes?

Or maybe young girls undressed on the streets and raped who tried to run away by dragging their bodies across the road leaving a trace of blood all over only to die on the other side of that road because they completely bleed out, and grasping in their little hands a leaf or whatever they could find to grasp in a last attempt to find strenth?

Give me a f*king break.

Whatever you experienced, it's yours only, this ridiculous attempt to claim so high level of entitlement means nothing to me. I have seen things too, possibly even worse

I was a soldier, have you ever cleared a village and go house to house and then you, before reaching the house, notice the silence around, not even the birds are around, but you see them on top of trees, all silent there, watching from afar, and the air is dense, very dense. There's something in the air and then you know someone just recently died there, and you have to clear the house and move on, and on that house, inside, you find death, kids and parents and pets and so on.

*Take pictures because once you move and the recovery team arrives, the scene may have changed, pick up whatever you can to keep moving and let's move on, pretend you did not see a young girl blown up to pieces and her dad rotting away on the next corner because they probably happened 15/20 days ago and now they are blue and bloated*

Go house by house finding similar, pretend is not important, keep going, you have a mission, you are a soldier! Remember your goals, don't stop or other will suffer the same, you are here to save the most you can, see this as a way to let you know that other's are about to suffer the same, hurry soldier! Any moment wasted, may be another life!

Village is clear! And there are 100 dead people, mostly children and woman, but no soldier got hurt, so it's a "white day"! Hurra!

So spare me this crap about how much you have seen with prisoners and blah blah blah. You would not last a day with that attitude out there, With this "i need special treatment" attitude

Just now see? Now you made me angry. I can't be angry, i may die out of stupidity, and this is why i requested not to be allowed to post

Stupid selfishness and "i don't care about other's suffering. I'm above that"

Sure you are

Enough!

ETA:

And just so you know

Any soldier out there who has not lost it, will tell you this, once you lose your care for human life and stop caring about their suffering, you are not a soldier anymore, you are a murderer. Never stop caring about human life, or you become the enemy

And i bet all army veterans here on Avalon can confirm this, if they wish so

ETA 2:

Once you find a kid or a grown up with their inner stomach all blown out and you know they have 5/10 minutes to live and they are desperately trying to find hope, what do you say to them? other than the BS you think you would say right now? What do you actually said? When the air is full of blood and other things and you can barely breath next to them and you know their suffering is immense and they will pass soon and you have to be there for them, say it. Don't let the smell of their inner organs allow you to throw up, it's a disgrace, they expect you to be strong for them, keep yourself alert and strong, grab their hands and lie to them while they go to sleep the endless night

But are you going to say the BS you were told to say? Are you human?

Note to MODs:

Please leave this here, i was not supposed to talk about this, and i did not intended to, but seeing as what has happened i can see here a chance to show how things happen out there, and it's just not about me, but about what thousands others live out there day by day. I'm willing, even if i was told not to, i'm willing to express this now.

But i won't move much more forward than this. I just need and want to let people know that there are things happening that are way beyond, and that just because someone thinks all they have experienced is the top most of it, that's not true, "There's always a bigger fish"

It doesn't matter if people believe or not, is not meant for that, i'm not trying to claim entitlement or any kind of show off or street credit. Whatever happens, happens next


I will not get into a childish back an forth argument

None was expected, and you did act immature to begin with, complaining that a thread about something you were not interested was posted. That's very childish, but ok



I will ignore this thread going forward.

Thank you, that should have been your reaction right from the beginning. Like an adult that goes by the street, sees a bar or people they don't like and they just keep walking paying no attention

*Life is not a competition about who has had the most gruesome experiences* Mentioning that as if "mine are better than yours" is also childish and immature, the only reason i mentioned my experiences is because i wanted to show that everyone goes through things and that doesn't earn you any privilege or entitlements, not to start a competition that sounds ridiculously like a "my dad is better than your dad" kid argument

Thanks for your reply

[xidaijena]

Maybe this thread should be closed now, i don't see the point of keeping it going on.

It has been made clear now that Gabby is gone, and there's nothing else to do about it

There's a lot of suffering going on and i don't think this thread can go anywhere else but to derail into other topics

If there's something someone thinks may be related to her, then it may be possible to open a new thread for that. This one wasn't about it, as far as i feel or felt when i opened it

Thanks

I believe Gabby will reborn as a cute girl and brave in her next life.

Let's pray for her and dream for a better and peaceful world.:muscle:

[Bill Ryan]

Just a note here, watching it all from quite a considerable distance. (Or height! the 30,000 foot view is helpful.)


It's a tragedy, of course.
The media are pumping the story as entertainment. There are all kinds of human 'hooks' embedded in this, and the news editors know it. And Gabby has become a kind of 'celebrity'.
One might consider the tens of thousands of other tragedies (maybe more!) that happen every day. Some of them have only just dropped out of the current news cycle.
Knowing how the media operate (and the instructions they receive), there's every reason to believe that this kind of coverage is deliberately being pumped as a curtain over the MANY MANY MANY critically serious issues out there that affect millions of people. Not just one person, or one family.
And to close, there's a human stress thing that's operating. Many reading this may know that when one is highly stressed, as a kind of compensation one can kind of get focused in on something that's very small. (Like: one's relationship is falling apart, and one's job is at risk, so one spends a couple of days cleaning the house from top to bottom.) That then becomes something that's much easier to control, and/or understand. So we escape from the macro by retreating to the micro. This is also in play here.

:flower:

[Pam]

he adored her. I am not saying he is not controlling.... sometimes moments slip. I had relationships like this.empath and controlling wanting to possess.. I learned a lot from those relationships. they didn't kill me, but I spent many nights with a knife locked in a bathroom. I still love them both.one guy stalked me for years and yet he taught me so much. One was a special ops guy which meant nothing to me. He was very beautiful,,very athletic and graceful, he was sooooo broken, I never left him. We had 2 kids. He was beautiful and graceful and I was a clutz..... In the end he would have killed me rather than I leave. I still see his beauty.... he was a beautiful masculine guy. When he put his arm around me I felt safe. He was older than me..... a sort of dad figure. He killed innocent people and was seduced by his mom. Maybe this is the reality of the world


No more sanitized self....real in the moment.

[Sue (Ayt)]

Just a note here, watching it all from quite a considerable distance. (Or height! the 30,000 foot view is helpful.)


It's a tragedy, of course.
The media are pumping the story as entertainment. There are all kinds of human 'hooks' embedded in this, and the news editors know it. And Gabby has become a kind of 'celebrity'.
One might consider the tens of thousands of other tragedies (maybe more!) that happen every day. Some of them have only just dropped out of the current news cycle.
Knowing how the media operate (and the instructions they receive), there's every reason to believe that this kind of coverage is deliberately being pumped as a curtain over the MANY MANY MANY critically serious issues out there that affect millions of people. Not just one person, or one family.
And to close, there's a human stress thing that's operating. Many reading this may know that when one is highly stressed, as a kind of compensation one can kind of get focused in on something that's very small. (Like: one's relationship is falling apart, and one's job is at risk, so one spends a couple of days cleaning the house from top to bottom.) That then becomes something that's much easier to control, and/or understand. So we escape from the macro by retreating to the micro. This is also in play here.

:flower:

Yes. All that.

Must say, that I have witnessed "The Soap Opera" news reports happening repeatedly over the years. (that is how I have come to think of it when they start in with a tragic story like this.) And then I have watched the people everywhere discussing the drama in real life, on talk shows, on the phone, social media, etc. etc. and it really seems to me to be quite a psychologically studied tactic (ala Bernays, et. al.) Like a magician, almost - look over here, watch this! A diversionary tactic.

Over the years I can remember Jon Benet, Terry Schiavo, Laci Peterson, Anna Nicole... So many others, likely starting long before I was born. But I imagine there are many other families, facing similarly tragic situations every single day, who receive little if any orchestrated aid efforts at all. It even makes me suspicious that these publicized dramas may be only a script, a play of our emotions, and possibly not real at all. (Sometimes, when I have probed deeper, I have even found evidence of that kind of thing.)

With the mainstream, I have realized that it is not heartless to be suspicious of such things. This is what I have observed as I have grown older, and when these types of stories are highly publicized is exactly when I try to look deeper into the other things that I am not supposed to be noticing.

[Journeyman]

Just a note here, watching it all from quite a considerable distance. (Or height! the 30,000 foot view is helpful.)


It's a tragedy, of course.
The media are pumping the story as entertainment. There are all kinds of human 'hooks' embedded in this, and the news editors know it. And Gabby has become a kind of 'celebrity'.
One might consider the tens of thousands of other tragedies (maybe more!) that happen every day. Some of them have only just dropped out of the current news cycle.
Knowing how the media operate (and the instructions they receive), there's every reason to believe that this kind of coverage is deliberately being pumped as a curtain over the MANY MANY MANY critically serious issues out there that affect millions of people. Not just one person, or one family.
And to close, there's a human stress thing that's operating. Many reading this may know that when one is highly stressed, as a kind of compensation one can kind of get focused in on something that's very small. (Like: one's relationship is falling apart, and one's job is at risk, so one spends a couple of days cleaning the house from top to bottom.) That then becomes something that's much easier to control, and/or understand. So we escape from the macro by retreating to the micro. This is also in play here.

:flower:

Yes. All that.

Must say, that I have witnessed "The Soap Opera" news reports happening repeatedly over the years. (that is how I have come to think of it when they start in with a tragic story like this.) And then I have watched the people everywhere discussing the drama in real life, on talk shows, on the phone, social media, etc. etc. and it really seems to me to be quite a psychologically studied tactic (ala Bernays, et. al.) Like a magician, almost - look over here, watch this! A diversionary tactic.

Over the years I can remember Jon Benet, Terry Schiavo, Laci Peterson, Anna Nicole... So many others, likely starting long before I was born. But I imagine there are many other families, facing similarly tragic situations every single day, who receive little if any orchestrated aid efforts at all. It even makes me suspicious that these publicized dramas may be only a script, a play of our emotions, and possibly not real at all. (Sometimes, when I have probed deeper, I have even found evidence of that kind of thing.)

With the mainstream, I have realized that it is not heartless to be suspicious of such things. This is what I have observed as I have grown older, and when these types of stories are highly publicized is exactly when I try to look deeper into the other things that I am not supposed to be noticing.

:clapping:

and for @Ascension too as those posts were very perceptive in my view.

Difficult to discuss these stories, because if they're true, then there's real people in tremendous pain and no-one would wish to add to that. However, we have to acknowledge that to some extent or another we live in a confected reality, some of the things we are shown are either not real, or have been exaggerated or distorted in order to serve another purpose.

Over time I believe you can get a feeling for them. One big clue is how the media seize upon it and seek to perpetuate the story ad infinitum, when typically they move on quickly to the next one. The Sarah Everard case in the UK recently was one in my view and this is another. Further back there was Madelaine Mcann. If you want to get an inkling of just how these things are put together, try https://web.archive.org/web/20200930101809/https://www.deconstructingmadeleine.com/death-theory-propaganda/
the original site appears to be down, but the wayback machine version may be usable. There's a lot of very solid work in there with massive implications.

There's a lot of stuff that's very weird about this story, not least the massive attention that it drew and now the follow-up faux controversy over it plugging in the racial angle. If you look at the published videos there's more of the little markers that suggest this isn't as it's being presented. 666 on the cops hand, the sun and moon symbolism at the store they visit prior to the police stop, the stop itself and the drama around it. It feels fake to be honest. I'm not definite on it, but that's my intuition.

That of course begs the question 'why' and this is something I think we all should explore, because the answer would tell us much about this world and its narrative controllers. However, my suggestion would be to do that in a different thread, without it being the subject of a 'current' case. Partly because it may be genuine, in which case it's in poor taste, but mainly because these stories are artfully constructed to harness the emotions of the observers and it's better to get away from that as much as possible.

[pabranno]

I want to acknowledge the pain and very deep wounds that Mashika and Savannah both carry. I also respect and am so grateful for the trust in this community shown by them in their willing vulnerability to share a small part of it with us.
I heard both your hearts crying. My heart does go out to you both
There’s a painful beauty in sharing and true empathy.
That may be a part of what our country is subconsciously trying to do with Gabby Petito and her family.
I would like to believe that, anyway.
May God bless us all.

Sincerely,
Pamela

[Donald Ryan]

An insight from one of the bozos. First, this story makes me sick at heart. The police that let the two of them eventually continue on their way should be ashamed--they are supposed to be the experts at reading people and any feeling person can tell by the police bodycam footage that there was more than meets the eye here. Yes, yes, yes, I understand they can't step in without ample evidence to intervene, but they just didn't take the time or effort to delve deeper into what was going on. If they had, this tragedy may have been averted. That said, to the media circus. . .I was a member of a large international media concern that dealt with these stories all the time. It always sickens me that most media cannot look past the end of their noses and then jump on the bandwagon with both feet. In the olden days (I'm dating myself, here) there was a firm firewall betweeen major media concern News and Entertainment. But that firewal has burned to the ground. I have to point out that if the demand and desire for the product wasn't so driven by the sheeple, the product might die on the vine (from my lips to Buddha's ears). In the Biz, when a story like this "get's legs", it is like a small boulder rolling down the mountain growing to a major avalance with no stop in sight. It is mob mentality, which I have witnessed firsthand photographing large, violent protests--it is a scary, scary thing that takes on a life of its' own.
Unfortunately, The Fourth Estate is a necessary stopgap to much that goes on in this world. Far from perfect, but necessary. There are a handful of world journalists, some I have worked with, that do God's work in sticking to journalistic standards and unbiased principles. But they are few and far between. And many either burn out from the ugliness they cover, fighting their own bossses or get killed. But my hat is off to these few standard-bearers.

As sad as it is, if the demand wasn't there for the product, the product would die.
Best to all.

Cheers,
Don Ryan
ps--And don't even get me started on social media, although it was a couple with a Facebook video that led the police to where Gabby Petito's body was found. Another dicsussion for another day.

[Donald Ryan]

Bill:

Good points. The media "news cycle" has changed in our lifetimes from weeks to days to hours to minutes to seconds. All driven by technology and the voracious, insatiable appetite of the sheeple. No real news, just entertainment. The question that troubles me with this technogical speedup is. . .What kind of children are we producing that have to live in this kind of world. And what about their children (if the world lasts that long). How can we produce children with any kind of empathy, compassion and critical thinking when information moves at the speed of light. Year's ago, sitting on a bus in NY, I watched four teenage girls across the aisle all texting. As it was new to me, I asked them what they were doing. After a funny look at the old(er) man, one told me they were texting each other. Taken aback, I suddenly realized. . .we are doomed.
Best,
Don

[Pam]

No one is a total victim //// no one without flaws. She is pretty and vulnerable and ready to accept blame. I don't doubt this guys love for her. Even if it was a fake love, modeled by our sick society . A possessive love. No one deserves to be hit or beaten or kllled, if that is what happened, why did it happen? When one seeks to make a living off of being the perfect, loving couple by filming perfect moments .....it is destined for trouble. Why do we watch? What the hell is wrong with us? I admittedly followed the Chris Watts case. Why? So I could rationalize my own pathetic existence? So I could finally understand that "nice" isn't always nice.

When I was a kid, before the woke phase, we gave valentines in school to those we wanted to. Who got the most? Those with the fakest personality. Those we were programmed to think should get the most. Watch out for the programming. Die authentic, even if flawed and broken.

[xidaijena]

No one is a total victim //// no one without flaws. She is pretty and vulnerable and ready to accept blame. I don't doubt this guys love for her. Even if it was a fake love, modeled by our sick society . A possessive love. No one deserves to be hit or beaten or kllled, if that is what happened, why did it happen? When one seeks to make a living off of being the perfect, loving couple by filming perfect moments .....it is destined for trouble. Why do we watch? What the hell is wrong with us? I admittedly followed the Chris Watts case. Why? So I could rationalize my own pathetic existence? So I could finally understand that "nice" isn't always nice.

When I was a kid, before the woke phase, we gave valentines in school to those we wanted to. Who got the most? Those with the fakest personality. Those we were programmed to think should get the most. Watch out for the programming. Die authentic, even if flawed and broken.

Agree with you , Pam.

There 's no accident in the universe.

She has her own "problem" or Karma to make so.

But we also need to be careful that female are weak sometimes. We shall protect ourselves and use God's power to stand up.

[DeDukshyn]

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[cursichella1]

Ok, this is, uh, interesting, weird and sad on many levels:

Gabby Petito was in 2013 ‘Irreplaceable’ music video for Sandy Hook

When she was 14 years old, Gabby Petito starred in a music video titled “Irreplaceable” to help spread awareness about violence against children after the Sandy Hook massacre.

She and her two younger brothers appeared in the 2013 video, whose song was produced and sung by fellow Long Island native Deb Henson, who told the Sun that its inspiration was the school shooting that left 26 people dead, including 20 kids, in Newtown, Conn.

In the video, Petito — whose death has been ruled a homicide after her body was found near a Wyoming campsite – is seen holding a sign that reads: “I’m irreplaceable.”
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New York Post full article (https://nypost.com/2021/09/27/gabby-petito-starred-in-2013-music-video-irreplaceable/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)

[iota]

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/10/brian-laundrie-identified-39.jpg?quality=90&strip=all


]Human remains found in Florida reserve confirmed to be Brian Laundrie

NBC reports:

"FBI says The remains, which were described as skeletal, were confirmed using dental record

Partial remains found by authorities searching for Brian Laundrie, Gabby Petito’s fiancé, were confirmed to be his after a review of dental records.

The remains were found in Florida's Carlton Reserve on Wednesday after more than a month of searching for Laundrie, who was declared a person of interest in Petito's disappearance before her body was found in Wyoming. The FBI field office in Denver announced that the remains were positively identified Thursday.

A spokesperson for the North Port Police told NBC News earlier Thursday that the remains were "skeletal."


https://1079614922.rsc.cdn77.org/data/images/full/205288/brian-laundrie.jpg

"According to the FBI, the remains were found alongside personal items, such as a backpack and a notebook, belonging to Laundrie.

"These items were found in an area that up until recently had been under water," Michael McPherson, special agent in charge of the FBI's Tampa office, said Wednesday.

Laundrie’s parents helped lead the FBI and North Port police to the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park, according to Steven Bertolino, an attorney for the Laundrie family.

Bertolino spoke to NBC News Now's "Top Story with Tom Llamas” following the identification of the remains, saying the family wanted to search for their son on their own after the reserve reopened to the public.

"My understanding was it either open to the public on Tuesday or Wednesday, and Chris and Roberta decided that since it was open ... they wanted to go and look for Brian by themselves," Bertolino said. "After speaking with me, I told him that I wanted to notify law enforcement so that we would have no issue."

The Carlton Reserve and neighboring Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park are short drives north of the Laundrie family home."

[COLOR="navy"]source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/human-remains-found-brian-laundrie-search-are-skeletal-police-say-n1282103


another article from NY Post here:
https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/brian-laundries-remains-found-in-florida-park-fbi-says/



many questions were raised as Brian's parents went there and film camera and crew were ready and the body was found



an article here outlays the speculation and its basis:
https://www.enstarz.com/articles/222523/20211020/brian-laundrie-location-discovered-fugitives-parents-accidentally-drop-clue-theyre.htm

however, to those interested, i suggest going on the NBC page here (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/human-remains-found-brian-laundrie-search-are-skeletal-police-say-n1282103)and seeing the video. the attorney is interviewed as he has been a close member of the family for over 25 yrs. and i have to say in the interview there are NONE of the weird and inconsistencies in his responses. no weird or hidden amusement that betrayed sincerity such as was seen in the interviews for Sandy Hook

he genuinely seemed upset

AND if that is so? my question is so does THAT "wrap it up"? i thought he was a "person of interest" NOT the convicted murderer

it could ALL be a farce .. but these two look in gentle and non homicidallly bent

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/ba/4by3/2021/09/21/ba57b475b67d4175aa1bfc7dbc02986e_md.png

now it COULD be because they are actors and NOT in fact involved in a murder plot

or it could be because he did not do it

if people are really interested in getting to the bottom of this, WHY is there NOT an investigation launched into the police officer even if just to remove all shadow of doubt

it is possible of course, that he was a gentle soul momentarily possessed in a rage and completely overcome for a moment

but then EVERYTHING else doesn't make sense

if THAT happened? you either confess or you run

you do not return to the location you lived with your gf IN HER van because somehow you "think" ... "well, if i just avoid answering their questions, maybe the whole thing will blow over and it will all go away"

there WAS SOME component that remains hidden that would explain his bizarre actions and that of his parents

assuming, of course, these were real people

:(

[Brigantia]

assuming, of course, these were real people

:(

Indeed, if it's a psyop it wouldn't be the first. From Cluesforum (http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2164&sid=9e64f0393edaf498b024f91c6c554e88):


The names scream pay-op to me:

Gabby Petito = Small Talk

Brian Laundrie = Brain Washing

Is murder mystery "small talk" being used for "brain washing" the general public? What could be the point of this nonsense?

Add the Sandy Hook video to that...

[iota]

assuming, of course, these were real people

:(

Indeed, if it's a psyop it wouldn't be the first. From Cluesforum (http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2164&sid=9e64f0393edaf498b024f91c6c554e88):


The names scream pay-op to me:

Gabby Petito = Small Talk

Brian Laundrie = Brain Washing

Is murder mystery "small talk" being used for "brain washing" the general public? What could be the point of this nonsense?

Add the Sandy Hook video to that...

yes! and you know? i so very much hope this to be the case!! to have that beautiful girl's light snuffed out so tragically would be very sad for me! :(

another clue that it is a psyops are the videos

there were professional aerials of these two traveling! how were they made when supposedly they were struggling financially?

[iota]

possible motive for psyop?



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particularly if they make a BIG production of it

for the people that have succumbed to fear through a LIFETIME of programming?

seeing a couple of productions of "manhunts" will be enough not just send chills through them?

but FULL concessions of power

akin to battles won without need to even fire a single shot

like the vax, that multitudes took willingly

[AutumnW]

A guy kills a girl in a super obvious way, and some incompetent cops mess it up.

Question why is this EVERYWHERE around the news. I mentioned it on another thread, we're having "weird" mediatic topics suddenly flood the news in spain too.

We should be asking why. What is being hidden? what are they building up? Why did this happen?

I don't think this is just some regular casual news.

Media fixated on it because they had so much video footage, of the couple pulled over by the cops and youtube coverage of their 'van life.'

I think what everyone should take away from this is, not even animals who live in small dens, occupy those dens with a mate. Add unmedicated mental health problems, (and they threw away their meds before the trip because....nature, blue skies and they felt great just after they left)

From what I could glean from my limited time pondering the situation, they bit off way more than they could chew. They were both slap happy and physical with each other, from what the reports say. They were too young to take this on, or immature.

When they hit Wyoming, they were both probably fit to kill, it got physical and that never turns out well for any female partner.

Super tragic for sure. However, no matter how much choice video media had on them if they had been over weight and acne scarred, the story wouldn't have recieved much coverage at all.

Someone commented here that Gabby was a 'lovely girl,' when there is only evidence that she was lovely looking. She could have been a raving bat**** crazy monster, for all we know. Not meaning to be critical. When I first read about it, I thought the same, "Oh damn and she is such a 'lovely' girl!"

Had I been forced to live like a rat trapped in a coffee tin with a crazy person, (either one of them) God knows what I would have done, as a 19 year old.

Anyway, interesting but very sad story

[Pam]

A guy kills a girl in a super obvious way, and some incompetent cops mess it up.

Question why is this EVERYWHERE around the news. I mentioned it on another thread, we're having "weird" mediatic topics suddenly flood the news in spain too.

We should be asking why. What is being hidden? what are they building up? Why did this happen?

I don't think this is just some regular casual news.

Media fixated on it because they had so much video footage, of the couple pulled over by the cops and youtube coverage of their 'van life.'

I think what everyone should take away from this is, not even animals who live in small dens, occupy those dens with a mate. Add unmedicated mental health problems, (and they threw away their meds before the trip because....nature, blue skies and they felt great just after they left)

From what I could glean from my limited time pondering the situation, they bit off way more than they could chew. They were both slap happy and physical with each other, from what the reports say. They were too young to take this on, or immature.

When they hit Wyoming, they were both probably fit to kill, it got physical and that never turns out well for any female partner.

Super tragic for sure. However, no matter how much choice video media had on them if they had been over weight and acne scarred, the story wouldn't have recieved much coverage at all.

Someone commented here that Gabby was a 'lovely girl,' when there is only evidence that she was lovely looking. She could have been a raving bat**** crazy monster, for all we know. Not meaning to be critical. When I first read about it, I thought the same, "Oh damn and she is such a 'lovely' girl!"

Had I been forced to live like a rat trapped in a coffee tin with a crazy person, (either one of them) God knows what I would have done, as a 19 year old.

Anyway, interesting but very sad story

I really appreciate this comment. So much gooood insight. Let's also add the element that she is trying to become a social media celebrity. I could really understand why that could create an instability in a partner and a relationship. All of the performing to create a certain atmosphere for their videos. Cartwheels on the beach and such. Instead of being in the moment, so much of it comes down making yourself look perfect in the moment. I see so many people looking at awesome beautiful nature locations that don't seem to be directly appreciating their experience, they are too busy recording it. Too busy being able to show others that they had this experience.

Then their is the whole empath completely good, narcissist completely bad programming, with nothing in between. When the cops pulled them over he was the one with scratches on his face. Would they have been treated the same way, like you said, if they were overweight or unattractive? Technically in most instances she would be charged with domestic violence for assaulting him. Particularly Gabby, with the classic pretty girl next door appeal, it's so easy to want to make this a good vs evil scenario and I don't think it was that way at all. I don't think there was any premeditation at all in this event.But that doesn't get you a lot of acknowledgment on social media doe it?

Another thing, eye witness accounts are notorious for being wrong.

[Tintin]

Maybe this thread should be closed now, i don't see the point of keeping it going on.

It has been made clear now that Gabby is gone, and there's nothing else to do about it

There's a lot of suffering going on and i don't think this thread can go anywhere else but to derail into other topics

If there's something someone thinks may be related to her, then it may be possible to open a new thread for that. This one wasn't about it, as far as i feel or felt when i opened it

Thanks

Just saving these here as they relate to this very tragic tale.

The full Moab police department bodycam footage from the incident at the entrance to Arches National Park (Utah) on August 12, 2021:

https://avalonlibrary.net/Gabby_Petito/2021-08-12_Utah_Moab_City_Police_Department_%28MCPD%29_bodycam_footage_%28FULL%29_Arches_National_Park_Gabby _Petito_%2B_Brian_Laundrie_%28published_2021-09-16%29.mp4

The Bethune family dashcam footage from their trip through Spread Creek Dispersed Camping land (Wyoming) on August 27, 2021 showing Gabby Petito's van - stop the footage at 01:34 and play through to 01:36, and focus on the van. The film also skips a couple frames at or around the 01:40 mark:

https://avalonlibrary.net/Gabby_Petito/2021-08-27_Bethune_Go_Pro_footage_of_Gabby_Petito%92s_van_in_Spread_Creek.mp4

The Brent Shavnore RAW 2.5k footage that he was provided with by the Bethunes: you can clearly see the van door being pulled shut, by someone. More eerily still it may well have been only Brian in the van then (https://x.com/brent_shavnore/status/1439744089524772866?lang=en):

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1439743513126744064/pu/vid/1440x720/sXXcp_1MbpO0iIzr.mp4?tag=12

[Tintin]

And a Wiki source here which gives a fair bit of background of the whole story, as much as is available now some nearly 4 years later:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Gabby_Petito

[Tintin]

So we've got a little more completion, of sorts here, at least as a historical resource, some more additional footage here:

The last film we have of Gabby Petito. The Merry Piglets Mexican restaurant CCTV - they'd visited there we think earlier that day before being captured here - was apparently deleted, as the owners, back on August 27th 2021 perhaps needed to free up space on the tape, but certainly didn't think footage from that day was particularly important to hold on to. It wasn't known until September 11th that Gabby was missing.

CCTV footage retrieved from Whole Foods supermarket - August 27th, 2021

https://avalonlibrary.net/Gabby_Petito/2021-08-27_Gabby_Petito_last_known_footage_with_Brian_Laundrie_at_Whole_Foods_Jackson_WY_0212PM-0231PM_%287_min_segment%29.mp4

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[Tintin]

As we all of course have known for 3-plus years now both cases have satisfactorily been concluded by respective law enforcement agencies. The evidence long ago gathered, parsed, and much of the material now in the public domain. Recently some of you will have noticed that, although this thread had been dormant for quite some time, that I have opted to include some resources here that simply help, I hope, to complete, in some way, the record. This is of course what archivists do.

But what of the very human element to this story? This is in many ways a post-modern para-social psychological and spiritual Shakespearean tragedy that is so very emblematic of the zeitgeist. Two twenty-something people in love seeking an escape from the Covid-ian claustrophobia that preceded it, yet choosing for prolonged periods of time to be in a confined space of their own making (in their case, a small camper van), at the same time paradoxically exploring the wider open terrain and using that to explore further within themselves; the great adventure of life. Where natural landscapes collude with virtual landscapes, to inspire. To stir the pioneering spirit. To tell a story.

It has to be remembered that much of the attention that Gabby and Brian's story garnered was very much driven by the information space that we now inhabit. Not some dark conspiratorial agenda, or a deliberately scripted distraction from anything else, just the sharing of a genuine tragedy that touched the wider demograph - the digital natives if you like: other twenty-somethings in the main, who could immediately empathise; they saw a reflection of themselves in Gabby and Brian. They could identify with them. In psychological terms they'd formed a parasocial relationship with them. That the legacy media amplified this tragedy reflects how information is disseminated now, now more widely outside their (legacy media) control, and is good for ratings of course. Ratings dahling! Legacy media hasn't really changed much save for the technological means available that now accelerates the 'news'. It gathers its own momentum.

This is no more evident than what followed the arrival of Brian Laundrie to his parents' home in Florida in Gabby's van, absent Gabby, on September the 1st. Speculation naturally ran rife, and was the genesis of what became the 'Murder mystery'. Gabby had by that time posted her first video on her vlog (Nomadic Statik on YouTube) on August 19th, and beginning her ambition to become a travel influencer (or perhaps better stated, inspiration) little doubt inspired by other 'Van lifers' who had shown that with a little imagination, and planning, one could escape the confines, the suffocation of the months in 'lockdown', the soporific milleu of the regular day-to-day. Social media users smaller in number at the outset who had been following Gabby and Brian on Instagram would have eagerly awaited her first video, and they had now gained a wider audience.

(My perspective, for what it may be worth, sincerely thinks that the term 'social media' is an oxymoron and should be renamed 'para-social media'. Any one or more of us who communicate using this conduit instinctively develops this type of relationship, but it isn't social in any truly meaningful sense.)

From viewing the footage available one gets the sense of a person (Brian) exhibiting behaviours synonymous with a toxic combination of aggressive and vulnerable narcissism; the casual almost psychopathological distancing during the Moab police interrogation; the slamming of the door in the parking lot of the Whole Foods supermarket; impersonation of Gabby in texts that suggest that he'd taken possession of her phone, likely forcibly perhaps for two whole days, and further suggesting coercive control behaviour. (Conjecture: had he done this to force her from focusing attention away from content creation, and engagement, to manipulate focus back onto only him?)

But what made him this way? Upbringing? A culture that demoralises the masculine and emphasises the anima? The resultant disempowerment? The free-floating rage that may ensue? The injunct to lash out and identify as the victim? The creation of a Frankenstein?

It seems to me at least that Gabby was a victim of someone who was, or who certainly became, a malignant narcissist, who was gaslighted, and the tragic denouement that ensued was maybe heartbreakingly all too inevitable. From his notebook entry where he'd manufactured a "mercy killing" narrative, clearly exposed following the coroner's findings from Gabby's autopsy, the following would be axiomatic: narcissists rewrite history to avoid accountability.

The corollary is the Gabby Petito Foundation and its sincere good intentions, but I don't think that the fatal outcomes from domestic violence incidents is the predominant issue here, although it is of course critically important that this is addressed. Perhaps greater focus should be placed on how parasocial media is used - or rather misused/abused - and just how often this is at least a technological catalyst that produces these latent destructive behaviours.

This is really a cautionary tale that flirts ever so slightly with Aesop; a post-modern fable. Has the overuse of, engagement with, and exposure to parasocial media, replete with its highly addictive properties and amplification of those dormant aspects that lay within us all, of narcissism in particular, been the real catalyst behind what has happened here?

At the heart of this story there were two victims here, if one doesn't include the families.

One a murder victim; one a suicide victim.

I do hope to God that they have found peace now :flower:

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Gabby's VAN LIFE video on YouTube attained over 6 million views posthumously, and, so, ironically in death she achieved what she'd aspired to do in life: to inspire people through her travel adventures. How heartbreakingly sad that she died how, and where, she did.

[Tintin]

Here's a terrific paper which I have just found which expands very well on my personal perspectives shared (above) and some of the themes I've touched upon there.

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Source: Academia.edu (https://www.academia.edu/124259026/Digitalizing_Femicide_The_Gabby_Petito_Case_as_a_Technocentric_Crime_Narrative)
Author: Olga Thierbach-McLean
Published: 2024, Bamberger Studien zu Literatur, Kultur und Medien

Digitalizing Femicide : The Gabby Petito Case as a Technocentric Crime Narrative

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https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/Digitalizing_Femicide_-_The_Gabby_Petito_Case_as_a_Technocentric_Crime_Narrative_by_Olga_Thierbach-McLean_%282024%29.pdf

[Tintin]

This is quite extraordinary, from a psychic, Lynne Sutherland:


Normally when I read a situation I DO NOT follow media coverage or research the situation prior. I go into readings as cold as possible so the information I get is not tainted by news coverage. This time I was just following the case with everyone else, so the psychic hits came in interspersed with media coverage. It is not a best practice, but I had no idea I was going to write about this and no client asking me to look into it.

I have known for weeks Brian was dead. Not much a stretch, a lot of others had come to the same conclusion. A couple days ago on October 19th I had just gotten up for the day. Like many people the first thing I did was head to the restroom. That is when Brian’s shade showed up.

Brian was in an emotional state. Crying he told me Gabby’s death via throttling at his hands was an accident. He didn’t mean to do it. Things went too far. Then he collapsed into a sobbing heap on my bathroom floor. I didn’t want him to remain there so I called in the guidance I frequently use in sorting out dark entities or unsettled graves. That appropriate archangel arrived and I asked what could be done?

A young, four or five year old Brian came out of the sobbing heap of wretchedness on my bathroom floor. He was still innocent and quite confused about being there. Toddler Brian asked the angel, “What is happening? Where are we going?” The angel replied Brian was going to see his grandmother shortly.

Sure enough an elderly lady showed up with her husband standing a short distance away from her keeping an eye on things. Toddler Brian recognized her immediately, called out “Bubbie!” and ran into her arms. I realize Laundrie is an English name and
Brian’s mother’s maiden name is an Italian one, so not sure why he used that particular endearment, but that is what I heard. She scooped him up and cuddled him, clearly delighted to see him. Brian’s grandfather joined them and they headed in the direction of a gathering group of late relatives who were there to welcome him home.

That left the sobbing wreck of adult Brian on my floor. I asked that wretched, ill, distraught shell be dealt with as I wasn’t about to live with it hanging about. The same angel collected the mess, brought it up to the face of God and it was dissolved. Thus the part of Brian that could be salvaged was. The ill, murdering, wretched part that could not was no longer in existence. I had never seen that happen with a human soul before. Dark entities yes, humans, no.


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