View Full Version : "Truth Social" - Trump launches social media platform
Mark (Star Mariner)
21st October 2021, 14:16
PRESIDENT TRUMP CREATES TRUMP MEDIA & TECHNOLOGY GROUP 'TO STAND UP TO THE TYRANNY OF BIG TECH'
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1450976324693241857
President Donald J. Trump has revealed dominating plans to compete with the radical left media with the formation of Trump Media & Technology Group.
Trump Media & Technology Group, which is chaired by President Trump, has merged with Digital World Acquisition Corp. to become a publicly listed company with a potential valuation of up to $1.7 billion, a Wednesday press release from TMTG states.
The media company intends to “create a rival to the liberal media consortium and fight back against the ‘Big Tech’ companies of Silicon Valley, which have used their unilateral power to silence opposing voices in America,” the statement explained.
The first order of business for TMTG will be to roll out a new social media platform called “TRUTH Social,” which President Trump said will “stand up to the tyranny of Big Tech.”
“I created TRUTH Social and TMTG to stand up to the tyranny of Big Tech. We live in a world where the Taliban has a huge presence on Twitter, yet your favorite American President has been silenced,” the 45th president added.
“This is unacceptable. I am excited to send out my first TRUTH on TRUTH Social very soon,” said Trump. “TMTG was founded with a mission to give a voice to all. I’m excited to soon begin sharing my thoughts on TRUTH Social and to fight back against Big Tech.”
“Everyone asks me why doesn’t someone stand up to Big Tech? Well, we will be soon!” he teased.
TRUTH Social will be launched in early 2022. Future users can sign up to get on the invite list at www.truthsocial.com.
In addition to a new social media platform, TMTG will also “launch a subscription video on demand service (TMTG+). TMTG+ will feature ‘non-woke’ entertainment programming, news, podcasts, and more.”
President Trump’s latest move sends a powerful message to Big Tech platforms which continue to silence and suppress alternate viewpoints that their days are numbered. Not only is he pursuing legal action against them, but he is also moving to compete with them on their own turf.
When TRUTH Social is officially launched, millions of people worldwide will flock to the platform where they will not be censored for holding an alternative viewpoint to the mainstream narrative.
https://rsbnetwork.com/news/president-trump-creates-trump-media-technology-group-to-stand-up-to-the-tyranny-of-big-tech/
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Interesting. Trump alone perhaps has the business clout to pull this off. It's a potentially dangerous move though. He'd still be a pretty small fish in a large, dangerous pond. It also remains to be seen how popular it would be, given the monopoly of existing platforms.
I do look forward to hearing what 'TRUTHs' President Trump has to share with us...but will this end up as just another echo chamber, this time for Trump supporters, Conservatives, and Libertarians - or will ALL voices and opinions be accepted?
Blacklight43
21st October 2021, 14:26
I just put my name on the list. My twitter acct. was suspended last year and FB keeps taking my posts down...I accuse them of being afraid of the truth!
Gracy
21st October 2021, 14:47
I do look forward to hearing what 'TRUTHs' President Trump has to share with us...but will this end up as just another echo chamber, this time for Trump supporters, Conservatives, and Libertarians - or will ALL voices and opinions be accepted?
That was precisely my first reaction/question Star Mariner, glad you brought it up! Because if it DOES just wind up being a pro Trump, red state echo chamber, especially if because anti Trump sentiments are being weeded out, then the platform proves to be no better than Twitter.
In which case he can just stfu about censorship, eh?
I’m a free speech absolutest, leaning heavily on the side of more speech is the answer to “bad/dangerous speech” not the shutting down of “bad/dangerous speech”. I was totally against his banning from any, and all platforms.
Kryztian
21st October 2021, 15:34
Just another way the social media is being polarized between left and right. The "right" is leaving for Gab and Parler and now "Trumpbook", while the left is remaining on Facebook and Twitter. Soon the left will say "Thank Goodness those unpleasant Trumpers have left us. Thank you corporate media for censorship" and blame the right for all the woes of the world, meanwhile the right can celebrate their free speech where the preach to the choir in their echo chamber and blame the left for everything. In the meantime, the unseen people/entities pulling all the strings can laugh at the two halves of humanity blaming, each blaming the other half while they continue to rob us, jab us, track us and find new technologies to trap us.
Pam
21st October 2021, 15:47
Just another way the social media is being polarized between left and right. The "right" is leaving for Gab and Parler and now "Trumpbook", while the left is remaining on Facebook and Twitter. Soon the left will say "Thank Goodness those unpleasant Trumpers have left us. Thank you corporate media for censorship" and blame the right for all the woes of the world, meanwhile the right can celebrate their free speech where the preach to the choir in their echo chamber and blame the left for everything. In the meantime, the unseen people/entities pulling all the strings can laugh at the two halves of humanity blaming, each blaming the other half while they continue to rob us, jab us, track us and find new technologies to trap us.
The "woke" level of the left needs opposition in order to continue the victimization and cancel culture element of the culture. I guess they could still virtue signal and bring in unsubstantiated examples of the unwoke to criticize in order to continue to prop up their social structure. Without victimization, cancel culture and virtue signaling what is left?
I do agree with Gracy that any form of censorship other than requiring common courtesy would be a hypocrisy and would stifle any debate where people might find some level of common ground even if they don't totally agree.
ExomatrixTV
21st October 2021, 15:50
Some (liberal) mainstream media sources already "counter" this initiative claiming that this new social media platform "got hacked" ... maybe it is true maybe it is not ... but the agenda of attacking any potential alternatives is super obvious.
cheers,
John
Mark (Star Mariner)
21st October 2021, 16:05
That was precisely my first reaction/question Star Mariner, glad you brought it up!
You were the person I had in mind when I added that! I knew it would be your first reaction. And it really was mine, too.
I applaud the idea of a non-woke, common sense, or just 'free speech' platform, but if it's to be a purely pro-Trump clubhouse, attracting conservatives only, what is the point?
They have their truths to share, fine. But non-conservatives who believe in another truth will never get to see them. The fact the Trump owns it and will be running it is not exactly an incentive for democrats to join the discussion!
I can imagine the trolls are licking their lips though. When they arrive, and they will, it will turn into a slugfest. Then the bitching will start, and then the banning, and we're back to square one.
It could sell a good few bags of :popcorn: though.
palehorse
21st October 2021, 16:20
The entire communist community will join, I can see that coming. lol
Gracy
21st October 2021, 16:49
So here's an interesting "Company Overview", done with a slide show format.
They're making an effort to say all the right (pardon the pun) things, and for that I commend them as an olive branch starting point, but it doesn't take a weatherman to clearly see which way the wind's gonna blow.
Here's an example:
Frame 13 -
All Are Welcome.
Liberal Independent Conservative
Frame 15 -
Galvanizing A Conservative Media Universe
But that's okay, having any given ideology is legit, so long as they don't censor other viewpoints is fine by me.
https://tmtgcorp.com/company-overview/
iota
21st October 2021, 18:52
In which case he can just stfu about censorship, eh?
NO he cannot and does NOT "NEED TO STFU about anything
you see, he ALREADY HAS been shut up AS SOON as he got lawfully elected
Sueka7aZLsg
which at very best was subversive but in frank reality was treasonous and ONLY either a complete delusional moron or saboteur (paid or not) would classify it as anything but DIRECT obstruction of the office of the President of the United States
his greatest failure was in not DIRECTLY addressing it and applying the HIGHEST penalty which treason provides for ~ death
because of the few that CONSPIRED to obstruct his presidency unimpeded THEN ENABLED them to PAY millions to common petty saboteurs across this great nation to promulgate subversiveness that was NOT/ IS NOT in the "best interest of the United States"
and THAT has ALREADY resulted in the death of multitudes WHO WERE INNOCENT
they were NOT subversive, lying evil dooers but rather ordinary good people whose mistake was to trust in the HONESTY of information received. They did NOT deserve to be caught up in the maleficent intent with reckless disregard to the lives OF innocent Americans
and history will bear out HOW MANY MORE will die in the current program that many believe is one of genocide.
so yea .. extermination of those whose crimes against humanity IS the penalty for the choices they have made ~ it WAS the appropriate and LEGAL remedy for treason
AND should now be extended to ALL who are pulling these strings behind the scenes cloaked in anonymity who conspire TO commit further treason as well as the HIGHEST legal repercussions possible for ALL who are INTENTIONALLY infiltrating groups such as here and will WITHOUT a doubt be infiltrating his platform
there is a difference you see between:
" I HONESTLY BELIEVE such and such and therefore have a GOD GIVEN right to express it"
AND
"i am hired and conspiring to defraud innocent Americans through intentional deception, writing and expressing NOT my OWN THOUGHTS and opinions but rather operating through a script handed to me by the enemies of this country and i dare say the planet"
UNTIL legislation is enacted AND acted upon to make it illegal for people to operate or intentionally DECEIVE and be granted free access to DESTROY and WEAKEN morale THROUGH DECEPTIVE INFILTRATION in an attempt to DESTROY a VERY REAL and POPULAR movement?
this country (and the planet at large) is doomed
secrecy and lies are ALWAYS the standard operational MO of cowards that KNOW very well:
NONE of their machinations would EVER stand a chance if presented openly in truth
so if you are suggesting, that either he is stupid to NOT realize the attack he will be submitted to? and with much more venom now that he no longer holds the power of the highest office in this land? and that he should just meekly endure it or as you so CRUDELY put it > STFU?
then i can only surmise you have an affiliation with those i just named because it takes NO "surmising" to ASCERTAIN your affinity
as i can go back to numerous of your posts where you have not lost ANY opportunity to put down and criticize this great country of ours
where EVERY single one of your posts has ALWAYS, CONSISTENTLY been 100% aligned with the promulgated social narrative AS well as ALWAYS heralding THEIR motto:
"remember people, you are powerless, there is NOTHING you can do"
and to EVERY theory we choose here at PA to explore?
" i disagree .. AND ..... oh, i don't think that is going to happen"
usually punctuated by marked sarcasm in a derogatory manner to members of this forum
so in the end it doesn't even matter whether or not you are in fact a paid provocateur because the FACT IS ... you promote their agenda and message as well if not better than the best of them.
many noticed i was absent for a bit, it was because ON the 4th of July TO AN AUDIENCE filled with members whose passion and support of this great country (even though i CAN pull up multiple posts of your assertions to the contrary)
you AGAIN, did NOT miss a beat and jumped right in to post something "interesting" that undermined the intent of the thread or ANY possibility that we, those of us who actually LOVE this country, might take a moment to celebrate WITH pride its origins
i WAS going to respond to THAT thread with "you just can't help yourself can you?"
but you had ALREADY dealt your little "blow below the belt" and what was NEEDED was a return TO THE INTENT of thread which was CELEBRATION, PRIDE in its ORIGINS
so instead i composed a post trying to inspire as best i could though i was seething and constrained by restraining my communication out of love and consideration for my fellow Americans who DO love this country
just as one would think that a moderator of a forum, never mind that it is a conspiracy forum, just ANY forum, would be inclined to do since THAT position ENTAILS SUPPORT of its members, unity, uplifting, forward movement of conversation
NOT to weaken the morale, divisiveness, as conversations are flowing smoothly for you to INTERJECT over and over and over again with derailing the common agreement of the discussion
even just a "nice" or decent person with any modicum of respect NOT even one holding the position of AUTHORITY and TRUST that a moderator holds? would be considerate and polite enough to say
"this conversation is not for me ... i'm going to leave them be .. after all i've ALREADY expressed in EVERY Single one of my posts the official narrative that is in direct opposition to the beliefs held by members of a conspiracy forum
so its not like they don't know, .... i don't HAVE to massacre them EACH and EVERY time."
but THAT would be the thoughts of a decent, respectful, considerate person NOT a liar whose drive to be subversive truly cannot or will not "help herself"
liar because you claim to be an "empath"
i don't know if empath, is the new "it" thing to claim but i DO know THAT is a lie
again, in specific reference to your "inopportune" post of the 4th and EVERY single one of your posts prior to that one? as a REAL authentic empath
i can tell you that NO empath that has EVER incarnated on this earthly plane would be so callous
you do NOT lack intelligence
you KNEW we were ALREADY not just "hurt" but DEVASTATED as MANY here FIRMLY believe the election WAS STOLEN and are more than just a bit traumatized as we watch with incredulity and horror EVERY right and freedom being stripped from us
you KNOW this and KNEW it
and so again, there is NO "empath" who has EVER incarnated on this earthly plane that would be SO insensitive and callous as to NOT have the decency, consideration, respect to give us just a moment to celebrate in peace
WITHOUT interjection such as you did that felt like a blow below the belt
ANY empath would have intuited the impact of her posts
and so again, i assert LIAR as the same intuition WOULD have come up with the previous hundred posts as well
and JUST in case, your "empathic" intuition was somehow not functioning quite right?
you didn't have to
you did NOT have to intuit
you were told. people outright expressed their desire to leave this forum BECAUSE of your LACK of sensitivity TO THEIR feelings, lack of consideration, lack of respect, lack of restraint and often outright aggressiveness just as a conversation was flowing smoothly in a forward movement
which your FUNCTION AS A MODERATOR would be one to support
NOT disrupt
and so many HAVE left BECAUSE of you
as i did ...
one would not imagine the desired objective of a moderator would be to get rid of members ...
now i'll put money behind my assertions of you ALWAYS following the official narrative promulgated by our enemies
so ... as i said? i left ... wasn't here
let's just take two basic topics OF the "official narrative" promulgated ad naseum by our enemies
Vaccines,
(which have caused SERIOUS injury and death ... even the very life of even the brother of one of our beloved moderators, Karen)
AND
Taliban
without going in search, i say you FULLY supported both
if i am wrong?
i will donate $500 to PA today
without even going in search ... i am willing to bet money .. .
FIVE HUNDRED dollars in fact?
that i AM right
iota
21st October 2021, 19:16
Some (liberal) mainstream media sources already "counter" this initiative claiming that this new platform "got hacked" ... maybe it is true maybe it is not ... but the agenda of attacking any potential alternatives is super obvious.
cheers,
John
agreed
so the issue that WILL be promulgated of his legitimate actions to counter this WILL be MARKETED/SOLD as CENSORSHIP
but it is not
the issue is that there ARE deceptive, controlled opposition, paid sabateurs infiltrating and intentionally "Steering" and directing the Social Narrative
AND there MUST be something put in place to REQUIRE DISCLOSURE
Censorship would apply to honest opinions
CONTROLLED opposition, paid subversiveness, those whose SPECIFIC purpose is to undermine and disrupt ANY organic movement as an agenda?
DOES NOT fall under that
nor is it in ANY way appropriate to afford them ANY ability or RIGHT to manipulate, deceive and sabotage basically defraud Americans
i would further assert it to be a RESPONSIBLITY to STOP them
and gross negligence to allow their unimpeded continuance
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for reference:
HOW COVERT AGENTS INFILTRATE THE INTERNET TO MANIPULATE/DECEIVE
"One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction.
Glenn Greenwald
February 24 2014, 5:25 p.m.
(please note that in the 7 yrs that have passed? these activities have not only escalated in size, but in sophistication)
"One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction. It’s time to tell a chunk of that story, complete with the relevant documents.
Over the last several weeks, I worked with NBC News to publish a series of articles about “dirty trick” tactics used by GCHQ’s previously secret unit, JTRIG (Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group). These were based on four classified GCHQ documents presented to the NSA and the other three partners in the English-speaking “Five Eyes” alliance. Today, we at the Intercept are publishing another new JTRIG document, in full, entitled “The Art of Deception: Training for Online Covert Operations.”
By publishing these stories one by one, our NBC reporting highlighted some of the key, discrete revelations: the monitoring of YouTube and Blogger, the targeting of Anonymous with the very same DDoS attacks they accuse “hacktivists” of using, the use of “honey traps” (luring people into compromising situations using sex) and destructive viruses. But, here, I want to focus and elaborate on the overarching point revealed by all of these documents: namely, that these agencies are attempting to control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse, and in doing so, are compromising the integrity of the internet itself.
Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.
To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: “false flag operations” (posting material to the internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting “negative information” on various forums. Here is one illustrative list of tactics from the latest GCHQ document we’re publishing today:
https://theintercept.imgix.net/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/deception_p47.png
Other tactics aimed at individuals are listed here, under the revealing title “discredit a target”:
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/Screenshot3.png
Then there are the tactics used to destroy companies the agency targets:
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/screenshot4.png
GCHQ describes the purpose of JTRIG in starkly clear terms:
“using online techniques to make something happen in the real or cyber world,”
including “information ops (influence or disruption).”
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/Screenshot2.png
Critically, the “targets” for this deceit and reputation-destruction extend far beyond the customary roster of normal spycraft: hostile nations and their leaders, military agencies, and intelligence services. In fact, the discussion of many of these techniques occurs in the context of using them in lieu of “traditional law enforcement” against people suspected (but not charged or convicted) of ordinary crimes or, more broadly still, “hacktivism”, meaning those who use online protest activity for political ends.
The title page of one of these documents reflects the agency’s own awareness that
it is “pushing the boundaries” by using “cyber offensive” techniques against people
who have nothing to do with terrorism or national security threats, and indeed, centrally involves law enforcement agents who investigate ordinary crimes:
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/deception_hacktivism.png
No matter your views on Anonymous, “hacktivists” or garden-variety criminals, it is not difficult to see how dangerous it is to have secret government agencies being able to target any individuals they want
– who have never been charged with, let alone convicted of, any crimes – with these sorts of online, deception-based tactics of reputation destruction and disruption.
There is a strong argument to make, as Jay Leiderman demonstrated in the Guardian in the context of the Paypal 14 hacktivist persecution, that the “denial of service” tactics used by hacktivists result in (at most) trivial damage (far less than the cyber-warfare tactics favored by the US and UK) and are far more akin to the type of political protest protected by the First Amendment.
The broader point is that, far beyond hacktivists, these surveillance agencies have vested themselves with the power to deliberately ruin people’s reputations and disrupt their online political activity even though they’ve been charged with no crimes, and even though their actions have no conceivable connection to terrorism or even national security threats.
As Anonymous expert Gabriella Coleman of McGill University told me, “targeting Anonymous and hacktivists amounts to targeting citizens for expressing their political beliefs, resulting in the stifling of legitimate dissent.” Pointing to this study she published, Professor Coleman vehemently contested the assertion that “there is anything terrorist/violent in their actions.”
Government plans to monitor and influence internet communications, and covertly infiltrate online communities
in order to sow dissension and disseminate false information,
have long been the source of speculation. Harvard Law Professor Cass Sunstein, a close Obama adviser and the White House’s former head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, wrote a controversial paper in 2008
proposing that the US government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-”independent” advocates to “cognitively infiltrate” online groups and websites, as well as other activist groups.
Sunstein also proposed sending covert agents into “chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups” which spread what he views as false and damaging “conspiracy theories” about the government.
Ironically, the very same Sunstein was recently named by Obama to serve as a member of the NSA review panel created by the White House, one that – while disputing key NSA claims – proceeded to propose many cosmetic reforms to the agency’s powers (most of which were ignored by the President who appointed them).
But these GCHQ documents are the first to prove that a major western government is using some of the most controversial techniques to disseminate deception online and harm the reputations of targets. Under the tactics they use, the state is deliberately spreading lies on the internet about whichever individuals it targets, including the use of what GCHQ itself calls “false flag operations” and emails to people’s families and friends. Who would possibly trust a government to exercise these powers at all, let alone do so in secret, with virtually no oversight, and outside of any cognizable legal framework?
Then there is the use of psychology and other social sciences to not only understand, but shape and control, how online activism and discourse unfolds. Today’s newly published document touts the work of GCHQ’s “Human Science Operations Cell,” devoted to “online human intelligence” and “strategic influence and disruption”:
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/screenshot6.png
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/deception_p07.png
Under the title “Online Covert Action”, the document details a variety of means to engage in “influence and info ops” as well as “disruption and computer net attack,” while dissecting how human beings can be manipulated using “leaders,” “trust,” “obedience” and “compliance”:
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/screenshot13.png
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/deception_p11.png
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/deception_p12.png
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/screenshot14.png
The documents lay out theories of how humans interact with one another, particularly online, and then attempt to identify ways to influence the outcomes – or “game” it:
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/deception_p24.png
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/deception_p48.png
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/02/deception_p42.png
We submitted numerous questions to GCHQ, including: (1) Does GCHQ in fact engage in “false flag operations” where material is posted to the Internet and falsely attributed to someone else?; (2) Does GCHQ engage in efforts to influence or manipulate political discourse online?; and (3) Does GCHQ’s mandate include targeting common criminals (such as boiler room operators), or only foreign threats?
As usual, they ignored those questions and opted instead to send their vague and nonresponsive boilerplate: “It is a longstanding policy that we do not comment on intelligence matters. Furthermore, all of GCHQ’s work is carried out in accordance with a strict legal and policy framework which ensures that our activities are authorised, necessary and proportionate, and that there is rigorous oversight, including from the Secretary of State, the Interception and Intelligence Services Commissioners and the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee. All our operational processes rigorously support this position.”
These agencies’ refusal to “comment on intelligence matters” – meaning: talk at all about anything and everything they do – is precisely why whistleblowing is so urgent, the journalism that supports it so clearly in the public interest, and the increasingly unhinged attacks by these agencies so easy to understand. Claims that government agencies are infiltrating online communities and engaging in “false flag operations” to discredit targets are often dismissed as conspiracy theories, but these documents leave no doubt they are doing precisely that.
Whatever else is true, no government should be able to engage in these tactics: what justification is there for having government agencies target people – who have been charged with no crime – for reputation-destruction, infiltrate online political communities, and develop techniques for manipulating online discourse? But to allow those actions with no public knowledge or accountability is particularly unjustifiable.
Documents referenced in this article:
The Art of Deception: Training for a New Generation of Online Covert Operations
CONTACT THE AUTHOR:Glenn Greenwald
Glenn Greenwald
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its ok ... doesn't have to be so serious
we just have to get REAL, operate in Truth and REFUSE to be subjected to any of the things listed above ..
i have signed up for Trump's platform
so .... :Angel:
ExomatrixTV
21st October 2021, 19:19
whois.domaintools.com/truthsocial.com (https://whois.domaintools.com/truthsocial.com)
reads:
Created on 2011-11-18
Expires on 2023-11-18
Updated on 2021-10-19
IP Address 212.102.46.9 - 620 other sites hosted on this server
IP Location United States - Washington - Seattle
ASN United States AS60068 CDN77 ^_^, GB (registered Jun 04, 2014)
Domain Status Registered And Active Website
IP History 75 changes on 75 unique IP addresses over 11 years
Registrar History 4 registrars with 1 drop
Hosting History 6 changes on 6 unique name servers over 11 years
--o-O-o--
I share this not because I think it is good or bad .. but to wonder who really owns that site!
The "truthsocial.com" is most likely connected/helped via cdn77.com (http://cdn77.com)
if true ... study this (https://www.saashub.com/compare-acunetix-vs-cdn77) :dog: and:
facebook.com/cdn77com (https://www.facebook.com/cdn77com/)
cdnplanet.com/compare/cdn77/cloudflare/ (https://www.cdnplanet.com/compare/cdn77/cloudflare/)
cheers,
John
ps: cdn77.com & truthsocial.com have the same IP-address ... weird.
Zdeněk Cendra Founder of CDN77.com (https://t.co/MxqloKfVxp?amp=1) says:
1422119921224388609
source (https://twitter.com/zdendac/status/1422119921224388609)
Zdeněk Cendra on wikipedia (https://cs-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Zden%C4%9Bk_Cendra?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui) & quora (https://www.quora.com/profile/Zdenek-Cendra) and here (https://www.quora.com/What-is-Page-on-cdn77-org)
ExomatrixTV
21st October 2021, 20:41
https://allinfo.space/wp-content/uploads/657dce3923fc8ccb2ef2a981f2ce9c87.jpg (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/truth-social/id1586018825)
source (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/truth-social/id1586018825)
Trump Announces New Social Media Company (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/oct/20/donald-trump-announces-social-media-company-mobile/), Mobile app, Merger Deal ... but not to be found on Google Play Apps Store (https://play.google.com/store/search?q=TruthSocial)? >>> only via Apple Apps Store (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/truth-social/id1586018825)?
Mashika
22nd October 2021, 01:50
It seems original site was created by someone who is no longer running their business, a software consultant that created their account in 2010 on Twitter. The domain most likely expired and then was bought by Trump, because the Twitter account has not been updated since it was created or they deleted all their tweets, and also it still links to the "truthsocial" domain on their profile
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=47680&d=1634867220
https://twitter.com/TruthSocial
Mark (Star Mariner)
22nd October 2021, 14:10
Preview of Truth Social. Looks very much like twitter.
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/T/z/X/z/TzXzc.caa.mp4
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JackMcThorn
22nd October 2021, 14:45
Social media sort of goes against the grain with me for several reasons. I looked at myspace at some point before 2oo4 when Facebook came out and was not interested. I was pushed by a girlfriend to try Facebook and that didn't happen until 2oo8. There was a point in time after that she wanted to 'exchange passwords' to each other's accounts and I thought she was loony. I logged in and told her to have a look. Not to mention the time she searched my entire hard drive looking for improprieties. She found a photo of an ex-girlfriend and nearly lost her mind.
Twitter? I thought this was absolutely useless for daily consumption. The one thing Twitter does great is inform of a major event globally with brevity and speed. But that is really all I can see. I am learning a little lately about data science and Twitter has value in this arena as well but I am not sure how people are really making money off the data.
Gab? I tried it. Basically a twitter knock off. I barely use it because the information is predictable and consistent and I do not seem to want to be inundated with the hard right, or the anti-semitics, or the trump lovers. I tried parler for a month and I thought that was garbage also, before it went down and after it came back.
I am grateful for Avalon. It seems like here, there is something for everyone. The demeanour of the participants is very relaxed and polite. It is almost uncanny how there are few problems and the people that cause problems are bounced pretty quickly. I think there is more truth here than anywhere, even though some topics are problematic for me to wrap my head around, like ufo's and aliens.
Truth social? I think it will be another cheap twit knock off and basically garbage computing. I think I will not sign on when it is open to the public. There are just some things one cannot unsee; and the truth is, it will be chock full of opinions. Which everyone has one.
Nothing beats talking to people face to face, even in this modern era.
abc
22nd October 2021, 18:53
social media is a cesspool of echo chambers and misinformation campaigns, i'd just stay away from it in general to be honest
iota
23rd October 2021, 01:56
just hilarious!!!
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1451552095287513095
and darn it!
should've gotten in!!
was SO predictable!
Mashika
23rd October 2021, 03:28
It already got into legal issues
https://algulf.net/2021/10/22/social-network-trump-gets-30-days-to-stop-breaking-software-license/
The Software Freedom Conservancy, a nonprofit organization that provides support and legal services for open source software, said Friday that while anyone can use Mastodon’s code for free to build online platforms, they must comply with the license that requires the user to create their own source code. offers, which TRUTH Social has not.
TRUTH Social refers to its platform and software code as “property.” Unless it changes its approach and opens its code for users to view within 30 days, the platform will no longer be able to use the Mastodon software it is built on.
“The license purposefully treats everyone equally (even people we don’t like or disagree with), but they must operate under the same copyright licensing rules that apply to everyone,” Bradley Kuhn, policy officer and hacker-in-residence at Software Freedom Conservancy, wrote in a blog post. “Today we saw that the Trump Media and Technology Group ignored those important rules — which were designed for the social good.”
Rebuilding that site from scratch with the features they want could take years, and possibly fail since it's not easy job. Most clones like that fail on the first to second year, and require lots and lots of money and a full team, working full time. That's why it's easier to just reuse something someone else wrote and rebrand
But they did not follow the license agreement, they picked it up for free, rebranded it, then claimed it belonged to the Trump organization and was proprietary, which is not at all
If they don't comply with license agreements, they will be sued, and it's a lost battle basically, because there's no way they can hide the fact this is the 'Mastodon' platform, but rebranded and slightly modified
:raining::raining::raining::coffee:
:behindsofa:
iota
23rd October 2021, 04:54
It already got into legal issues
https://algulf.net/2021/10/22/social-network-trump-gets-30-days-to-stop-breaking-software-license/
The Software Freedom Conservancy, a nonprofit organization that provides support and legal services for open source software, said Friday that while anyone can use Mastodon’s code for free to build online platforms, they must comply with the license that requires the user to create their own source code. offers, which TRUTH Social has not.
TRUTH Social refers to its platform and software code as “property.” Unless it changes its approach and opens its code for users to view within 30 days, the platform will no longer be able to use the Mastodon software it is built on.
“The license purposefully treats everyone equally (even people we don’t like or disagree with), but they must operate under the same copyright licensing rules that apply to everyone,” Bradley Kuhn, policy officer and hacker-in-residence at Software Freedom Conservancy, wrote in a blog post. “Today we saw that the Trump Media and Technology Group ignored those important rules — which were designed for the social good.”
Rebuilding that site from scratch with the features they want could take years, and possibly fail since it's not easy job. Most clones like that fail on the first to second year, and require lots and lots of money and a full team, working full time. That's why it's easier to just reuse something someone else wrote and rebrand
But they did not follow the license agreement, they picked it up for free, rebranded it, then claimed it belonged to the Trump organization and was proprietary, which is not at all
If they don't comply with license agreements, they will be sued, and it's a lost battle basically, because there's no way they can hide the fact this is the 'Mastodon' platform, but rebranded and slightly modified
:raining::raining::raining::coffee:
:behindsofa:
darn it!!
and i was JUST gearing up to identify EVERY single infiltrator and launch a large scale campaign of exposure
cuz until we do? we will never be able to trust what we are told, what is presented to us, what is reported
Crisis Actors, paid rioters, paid infiltrators, MSM reporters intentionally lying, perpetuating fraud?
THESE ARE THE REAL "Domestic Terrorists"
and they are indeed "terrorizing" the people ~ ALL people in fact
committing FRAUD but with far reaching consequences
that are altering (destroying) the very fabric of society
and there is NO way it should be legal
tolerated or allowed to continue
:shielddeflect:
but, as you were saying ....
so you think i should opt for shorting the stock instead of bujllish investment then?
:sun:
Mashika
23rd October 2021, 05:07
It already got into legal issues
https://algulf.net/2021/10/22/social-network-trump-gets-30-days-to-stop-breaking-software-license/
The Software Freedom Conservancy, a nonprofit organization that provides support and legal services for open source software, said Friday that while anyone can use Mastodon’s code for free to build online platforms, they must comply with the license that requires the user to create their own source code. offers, which TRUTH Social has not.
TRUTH Social refers to its platform and software code as “property.” Unless it changes its approach and opens its code for users to view within 30 days, the platform will no longer be able to use the Mastodon software it is built on.
“The license purposefully treats everyone equally (even people we don’t like or disagree with), but they must operate under the same copyright licensing rules that apply to everyone,” Bradley Kuhn, policy officer and hacker-in-residence at Software Freedom Conservancy, wrote in a blog post. “Today we saw that the Trump Media and Technology Group ignored those important rules — which were designed for the social good.”
Rebuilding that site from scratch with the features they want could take years, and possibly fail since it's not easy job. Most clones like that fail on the first to second year, and require lots and lots of money and a full team, working full time. That's why it's easier to just reuse something someone else wrote and rebrand
But they did not follow the license agreement, they picked it up for free, rebranded it, then claimed it belonged to the Trump organization and was proprietary, which is not at all
If they don't comply with license agreements, they will be sued, and it's a lost battle basically, because there's no way they can hide the fact this is the 'Mastodon' platform, but rebranded and slightly modified
:raining::raining::raining::coffee:
:behindsofa:
darn it!!
and i was JUST gearing up to identify EVERY single infiltrator and launch a large scale campaign of exposure
with the stringiest of consequences possible, maybe even MANDATORY jail time the very first time
because until we do? we will never be able to trust what we are told, what is presented to us, what is reported
THESE ARE THE REAL "Domestic Terrorists"
and they are indeed "terrorizing" the people ~ ALL people in fact
committing FRAUD but with far reaching consequences
that are altering (destroying) the very fabric of society
and there is NO way it should be legal
tolerated or allowed to continue
:shielddeflect:
but, as you were saying ....
so you think i should opt for shorting the shares instead of outright investment then?
:sun:
Problem is, the guys who own the software that is being used, may sue and they have all the reasons to win. If the software is taken down, then there simply is no site at all, and then they (the Trump organization) will have to find an alternative, or hire someone to build one. And this will definitely slow things down for a year or more. All the stock will be worthless in that case
But if they release the modified software for anyone to see, there is also downside, any modifications they made, may have security issues, and this may allowed them to be hacked soon enough once people can read the changes made :)
Hard situation to be in. If i was Trump, i would have hired the owners of the Mastodon software to make a modified version for myself, so they would keep a separate license since i paid for this modification, while also making sure there are no obvious security issues. Someone needs to tell Trump to hire a better adviser about these things, because whoever came up with this idea, didn't chose the legal path at all :(
The way this may go is, the 'Mastodon' software owners will say "pay us for a license so you can use this software without releasing the sources to the public, OR take the site down". Whoever working for Trump made the choice to basically steal the software, is going to get their head cut :P and the owners of the software are going to get a very nice pay day. At this point i think that's what's going to happen
Trump will get the license to make site public, without releasing the sources, but he will have to pay a lot now, and i guess a lot more than if he had hired the original owners in the first place :rolleyes::eek:
apokalypse
23rd October 2021, 05:33
just hilarious!!!
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1451552095287513095
and darn it!
should've gotten in!!
was SO predictable!
that was interesting...people got in and today when open market it went up 160 and they halt it causing lost of momentum...so freaking rigged.
im aware PHUN is associated with trump, i heard cdrt aswell but not sure..
iota
23rd October 2021, 05:53
that was interesting...people got in and today when open market it went up 160 and they halt it causing lost of momentum...so freaking rigged.
im aware PHUN is associated with trump, i heard cdrt aswell but not sure..
you are right and it is impossible to ignore for those who pay attention
our T. (here at PA) got me interested in GME so i was watching that and others for weeks as in ALL day so as to not miss the precise second to buy or sell
and in the conversation i remarked about the way EVERY morning AS the stock market opened they climbed and then immediately fell
EVERY morning
he hadn't noticed and remarked that he was surprised no one else had mentioned it
and one day ALL the ones i was investing in fell
but they didn't just ALL fall on the SAME day
they ALL fell at precisely 11:14 am
in unison
now what are the probability stats on THAT do you think?
and how does no one else notice? or pretend that they don't by not talking about it?
now, i pretty much relax, when they start to drop, drop drop?
i'm like "Cool! today is the day they go on sale!"
and buy, which sure enough the next day? they go back to normal price and i make a profit
:cash::cash::cash:
oh .. and PS
whenever the movements are too large like that it is a common practice to halt all trading for about 5 mins and let things settle before they restart again.
i did not understand WHAT was going on the first time i saw that! :(
i'm going to look at ALL the companies associated with this
AND i'm going to see how to go about getting word to president Trump about what Masha just posted
AND i'm going to tell my attorney he will owe me a very nice Christmas present as do i have a HOT tip for him! hahaha!
:sun:
ExomatrixTV
23rd October 2021, 14:11
Trump Launches MASSIVE MEDIA VENTURE to CRUSH Big Tech!!!
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ExomatrixTV
23rd October 2021, 18:13
A Huge Announcement:
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ExomatrixTV
24th October 2021, 17:33
Former Trump Press Secretary Says Trump IS RUNNING For President In 2024:
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Mark (Star Mariner)
26th October 2021, 14:00
Maybe something more in the pipeline?
Trump Jr retweeted:
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Don't know what this is yet, just speculation, but could Trump be planning to expand his platform by merging with Rumble?
Zamolxe
26th October 2021, 17:34
Well, so much for free speech...
https://truthsocial.com/terms-of-service/
PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES
As a user of the Site, you agree not to:
...............
23. disparage, tarnish, or otherwise harm, in our opinion, us and/or the Site.
Not even FB or Twitter don't ban you if you criticize them.
ExomatrixTV
26th October 2021, 17:59
Jon Stewart DESTROYS CNN on Their Trump Obsession:
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Gracy
26th October 2021, 18:19
Well, so much for free speech...
https://truthsocial.com/terms-of-service/
PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES
As a user of the Site, you agree not to:
...............
23. disparage, tarnish, or otherwise harm, in our opinion, us and/or the Site.
Not even FB or Twitter don't ban you if you criticize them.
I withheld comment on that one, in lieu of it’s not exactly clear, to me anyway, what that really means and how it might be enforced.
It’s vague. On the one hand it could be used as a catch all like how the police can and do use “resisting arrest” and “obstruction of justice” willy nilly, just to get at someone they don’t like with a wide net.
On the other hand, it could simply mean they don’t want assholes in there every day just screaming hair on fire “Nazi! Nazi! Nazi!” all the time.
So I figured to just wait and see like a lot of other things. If Trump’s looking to do this just to make sure his and conservative voices drown out more liberal leaning social media, while stamping out the opposition in his own venue, we’ll know soon enough.
And in turn if he does indeed just want a huge fair and open platform to truly facilitate a full marketplace of ideas, we’ll know that soon enough.
I have my suspicions which one of those it may be closer too, but again, we shall see.
Mark (Star Mariner)
26th October 2021, 21:19
If Trump’s looking to do this just to make sure his and conservative voices drown out more liberal leaning social media, while stamping out the opposition in his own venue, we’ll know soon enough.
Everyone's invited apparently. Here's Trump's statement about the new platform, released today:
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https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1452980259389902852
Gracy
26th October 2021, 22:17
If Trump’s looking to do this just to make sure his and conservative voices drown out more liberal leaning social media, while stamping out the opposition in his own venue, we’ll know soon enough.
Everyone's invited apparently. Here's Trump's statement about the new platform, released today:
https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1452980259389902852
Thanks Star Mariner. Well of course that wasn't actually written by the big guy, he doesn't even talk like that, but it's understood he signed off on it.
Remember they also said as much in that company overview I posted? But it was also a mixed message:
Frame 13 -
All Are Welcome.
Liberal Independent Conservative
Frame 15 -
Galvanizing A Conservative Media Universe
I want this to be as advertised, I really do! But for all the complaining about cancel culture in that statement (and rightfully so!), I also haven't forgotten that this is still the man who ruthlessly cancelled Julian Assange, and a peaceful D.C. protest.
So once again I'm hoping for the best, and we'll all find out together, but I need more than proclamations to be convinced, the proof will be in the pudding.
And that goes for proclamations from any powerful public figure, not just DJT. :nod:
iota
27th October 2021, 00:20
Well of course that wasn't actually written by the big guy, he doesn't even talk like that, but it's understood he signed off on it.
i wasn't aware that anyone actually does.
take Biden, it doesn't look like he's ever even seen the words he is having a hard time reading half the time
since THAT is a WELL established and KNOWN fact?
WHY would you bring that up?
can you please be CLEAR as to what you are implying or attempting to insinuate?
two other points:
1.)
the man is one of the most intelligent human beings that ever served in politics, OR held office of POTUS
PARTICULARLY, in comparison to the man currently occupying that seat?
the contrast is QUITE remarkable
this, as matter of fact, NOT "spin"
i don't think even members of Biden's party would attempt to dispute this
here, he is heard to proclaim, he doesn't evern know what he is signing
now at THIS point? the ramifications and possible repercussions are frightening
4oXzoHDMJus
i think we can safely assume that. unlike Biden? Trump knew what he signed
:facepalm:
but let's continue with the assumption you asserted AS FACT and CERTAINTY:
2.)
FACT:
Trumps's LIFELONG attention and focus to detail has been SO well established that to presume that EVEN a SINGLE word would be ALLOWED to represent him that in fact does not?
is really pretty preposterous and at the very least HIGHLY unlikely
this is just SO well established, recognized, recorded fact i have to wonder WHY would you make such assertions in that manner,? Can you please clarify?
and more to the point, for the sake of CLARITY?
can you please explainwhat it is you are insinuating or implying?
what is the purpose of that exactly? WHY?
but on one point you are right about the WAY he speaks!
he is ABSOLUTELY much more elquent than that
hear him now... NO script .... straight from the heart, see how they just roll out with the ease of personal conviction of beliefs held in the heart
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I want this to be as advertised, I really do!
since when? and in COMPLETE negation of the hundreds of post for an ENTIRE year ALL CLEARLY pointing to the contrary
i'm sorry but you have NEVER given any indication to substantiate that statement, and quite a bit to the contrary
But for all the complaining about cancel culture in that statement (and rightfully so!)
ALL the "complaining" about cancel culture? you make it sound as though it were a minor inconvenience or silly to complain about
for the record? it is in NO Way limited to his statement
it is a FOUL point of indignatiy in the hearts of EVERY red blooded American who authentically BELIEVES and espouses the principle of FREEDOM. of liberty and justice for all.
it is not just a point of disappointment with us, it is an outright INDIGNATION that we ABSOLUTELY opposed AS we observed DAILY it being done to our president
and by default to us
So once again I'm hoping for the best, and we'll all find out together,
there's that insinuation at the end, stated TWICE in case too subtle the first time, followed by RE-direction of focus in its implication
i've ALREADY CLEARLY stated WHAT we KNOW WILL happen here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116594-Truth-Social-Trump-launches-social-media-platform&p=1458738&viewfull=1#post1458738)
i'm not clear why you profess to NOT know EXACTLY what will happen when it is no secret?
they actually TOLD us what they will do, it is impossible you missed it
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ANd i evern told you:
if you are suggesting, that either he is stupid to NOT realize the attack he will be submitted to? and with much more venom now that he no longer holds the power of the highest office in this land? and that he should just meekly endure it or as you so CRUDELY put it > STFU?
then i can only surmise you have an affiliation with those i just named because it takes NO "surmising" to ASCERTAIN your affinity
was something UNCLEAR in my communication?
there is NOT a single person in this forum, and i dare say in America, on EITHER party side that has ANY DOUBT that the onslaught of attack WILL not just be present
but that it WILL be WELL organized for maximum effacy with MULTITUDE of infiltrators present in attempt to sabotage it
EXACTLY AS has been done to EVERYTHING else he has attempted
please see here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116594-Truth-Social-Trump-launches-social-media-platform&p=1458743&viewfull=1#post1458743)for a CLEAR outline of plan by gov to place Infiltrators in ALL forums ~
can you please clarify why you would suggest his to be the excpetion?
have you NOT seen the video?
it really DOES ~ CLEARLY lay this all out
iota
27th October 2021, 01:50
Problem is, the guys who own the software that is being used, may sue and they have all the reasons to win. If the software is taken down, then there simply is no site at all, and then they (the Trump organization) will have to find an alternative, or hire someone to build one. And this will definitely slow things down for a year or more. All the stock will be worthless in that case
But if they release the modified software for anyone to see, there is also downside, any modifications they made, may have security issues, and this may allowed them to be hacked soon enough once people can read the changes made :)
Hard situation to be in. If i was Trump, i would have hired the owners of the Mastodon software to make a modified version for myself, so they would keep a separate license since i paid for this modification, while also making sure there are no obvious security issues. Someone needs to tell Trump to hire a better adviser about these things, because whoever came up with this idea, didn't chose the legal path at all :(
The way this may go is, the 'Mastodon' software owners will say "pay us for a license so you can use this software without releasing the sources to the public, OR take the site down". Whoever working for Trump made the choice to basically steal the software, is going to get their head cut :P and the owners of the software are going to get a very nice pay day. At this point i think that's what's going to happen
Trump will get the license to make site public, without releasing the sources, but he will have to pay a lot now, and i guess a lot more than if he had hired the original owners in the first place :rolleyes::eek:
so ..... president Trump is now aware .........
https://sm.mashable.com/t/mashable_pk/article/t/trump-anno/trump-announces-ironically-named-social-media-platform-truth_84nh.1200.jpg
ZDNET reports:
"Mastodon is free and open source software for running self-hosted social networking services. Anyone can use it, as Kuhn observes: "The license purposefully treats everyone equally (even people we don't like or agree with), but they must operate under the same rules of the copyleft licenses that apply to everyone else." But, if you use it, you must release the source code or make it possible for users to get the code; Trump and his cronies didn't. It's that simple.
The AGPLv3 is one of the less commonly used open source licenses. It's explicitly designed to ensure that the operator of a network server that provides a service, such as a social network, must provide the source code of the modified version running there to its users.
It's pretty simple really, but mistakes were made. Once made aware of the issue; however, the site was taken down"
source here (https://www.zdnet.com/article/trumps-truth-social-beta-site-violates-open-source-license/#ftag=RSSbaffb68)
OMG! Masha!!
i know you won't see this til you come back from your trip!
BUT you were right on point!!! what a disaster! ...
i was SO elated at the possibility of Trump being the one to send FB the way of MySpace ...
well .... at least there's this
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1453119102826975238
Truth Social CEO responds to suggestions of Musk-Trump Twitter talks.-Devin Nunes tells 'The Story' there were no secret talks, just public statements. ----7/5/22---5.35 min--L2hDqbAkQDE
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