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10over7
21st January 2011, 12:32
I'm fascinated to hear what people feel a large scale, sustainable and progressive culture may look like. Let’s assume that the majority of people within it are 'ordinary people' if there is such a thing. i.e. Not everyone will be a spiritually driven person, many will just want to exist and try to enjoy life.

How would it be organised and maintained?
Would it be distributed or hierarchically controlled?
How would continuity be maintained?
How would it prevent the structure from being corrupted?
What would be important in the culture?
How would the challenges faced by large society be addressed?(Food, Water, Waste)
How would it deal with criminality?
How might its success be measured?
Would there be currency?

I'm interested to see if we can come to a grounded and practical approach that might work. Its a very hard question, as most of us will have only known one or two cultures and ways of living.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Dale
21st January 2011, 14:06
I'm fascinated to hear what people feel a large scale, sustainable and progressive culture may look like. Let’s assume that the majority of people within it are 'ordinary people' if there is such a thing. i.e. Not everyone will be a spiritually driven person, many will just want to exist and try to enjoy life.

To be quite truthful, it wouldn't be very pretty. Unless the majority of individuals here are able to raise their level of consciousness/spirituality to a more all-encompassing state, the creation of a sustainable large-scale culture would be quite dystopian.

A reasonable father would not lend the keys to his Cadillac to his teenage son and five friends, most of which are ordinary kids, looking to simply exist and enjoy the evening.

Fredkc
21st January 2011, 15:09
What might a sustainable large scale culture look like?
Personally, the first thing that comes to mind is "Ant Farm".

Self-governance hasn't really worked for humans, on a scale much larger than a local school board. and even those get bloody now and then. But nothing else is acceptable.

As "consciousness" we can blend into a whole on a grand scale, but as monkeys, we tend to get along better on a smaller scale.

This goes to the heart of the difference between a Democracy, and a Republic.
The idea of a republic is that the larger the governing body, the more it is limited to broader ideas.

Democracy, on a large scale, usually starts out fine. But humans being who they are, sooner or later you wind up with a world-governing body making decisions about whether or not making your children brush their teeth only twice a day constitutes "child endangerment". Or is it 3 times/day?

For me, freedom comes first.
Fred

10over7
21st January 2011, 16:19
Do you think it would be possible to envisage a utopian society that would function without falling into the pitfalls of a dystopia?