View Full Version : Is this reality getting darker compared to how it looked a few decades ago?
hm337
11th November 2021, 19:42
Not sure what I am about to say will resonate with other people...But this is how I see the spiritual side of our evolution. It seems we are going in wrong direction.
Don't you feel that this reality is becoming darker and darker? Could it be the case that we are slowly step by step initiated in satanic New World Order through events, media, entertainment industry?
Few years ago I bumped on a video that clearly shows it Now when I looked at it I realized that now it is much darker. Take a look at this video.
cfb52ce5-7fe1-4045-bdc7-47a9d6f13434
Decades ago occult was introduced to us via entertainment industry in colorful optimistic and somewhat hidden way. Now it is showing all characteristics of a sect that is out of control.
Perhaps real symbol of this process is the occult logo of Apple (it is occult because it represents forbidden fruit from the tree of knowing good and evil) that has transformed from colorful and fun depiction of 80s and 90s from 20th century into black and white depictions of this century.
https://storage.googleapis.com/webdesignledger.pub.network/WDL/e24337fb-apple.png
Nowadays colorful logo of Apple would look outdated because we are different, the world is different.... we are not optimistic as much as people were in 80s...
ever since 70s music is gradually getting darker and more into occult...
movies are gradually getting darker and more into occult..
it is like we are gradually robed of life joy and turned into more and more robotic beings with tendency to become even more robotic...not to mention that nowadays almost everyone prefers to spend time with screens instead of with people...
mozo33
11th November 2021, 19:48
Not sure what I am about to say will resonate with other people...But this is how I see the spiritual side of our evolution. It seems we are going in wrong direction.
Don't you feel that this reality is becoming darker and darker? Could it be the case that we are slowly step by step initiated in satanic New World Order through events, media, entertainment industry?
Few years ago I bumped on a video that clearly shows it Now when I looked at it I realized that now it is much darker. Take a look at this video.
cfb52ce5-7fe1-4045-bdc7-47a9d6f13434
Decades ago occult was introduced to us via entertainment industry in colorful optimistic and somewhat hidden way. Now it is showing all characteristics of a sect that is out of control.
Perhaps real symbol of this process is the occult logo of Apple (it is occult because it represents forbidden fruit from the tree of knowing good and evil) that has transformed from colorful and fun depiction of 80s and 90s from 20th century into black and white depictions of this century.
https://storage.googleapis.com/webdesignledger.pub.network/WDL/e24337fb-apple.png
Nowadays colorful logo of Apple would look outdated because we are different, the world is different.... we are not optimistic as much as people were in 80s...
ever since 70s music is gradually getting darker and more into occult...
movies are gradually getting darker and more into occult..
it is like we are gradually robed of life joy and turned into more and more robotic beings with tendency to become even more robotic...not to mention that nowadays almost everyone prefers to spend time with screens instead of with people...
before the heavenly Jerusalem is seen, Babylon must first become desolate ... which is to say ... to find ones soul, one first has to lose it ...
Bill Ryan
11th November 2021, 19:49
Yes. Do also see this thread:
A Dystopian Future: Richard Dolan lays it out (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112529-A-Dystopian-Future-Richard-Dolan-lays-it-out)
Johan (Keyholder)
11th November 2021, 20:27
To the OP above. As you mention Apple, and its occult logo, did you know the following?
The FIRST Apple I was sold for $ 666.66. The reason "why" is quite obvious and I don't think we should believe the explanation given below.
From Wikipedia:
The Apple I went on sale in July 1976 at a price of US$666.66,[13] because Wozniak "liked repeating digits" and because of a one-third markup on the $500 wholesale price.[14]
The first unit produced was used in a high school math class, and donated to Liza Loop's public-access computer center.[15] About 200 units were produced, and all but 25 were sold within nine or ten months.[12]
AutumnW
11th November 2021, 20:51
To the OP above. As you mention Apple, and its occult logo, did you know the following?
The FIRST Apple I was sold for $ 666.66. The reason "why" is quite obvious and I don't think we should believe the explanation given below.
From Wikipedia:
The Apple I went on sale in July 1976 at a price of US$666.66,[13] because Wozniak "liked repeating digits" and because of a one-third markup on the $500 wholesale price.[14]
The first unit produced was used in a high school math class, and donated to Liza Loop's public-access computer center.[15] About 200 units were produced, and all but 25 were sold within nine or ten months.[12]
That's really interesting. I didn't know that. And the bite out of the apple a clear reference to the Garden of Eden is another satanic reference.
AriG
11th November 2021, 21:27
HM337-
Yes, yes and yes.
I just spent 45 minutes typing a response to your post that upon a full reading, is total garbage. I will not insult anyone's sensibiities with that post!
Cliff notes version:
Yes, everything is a tool of control. Yes, it is more than likely as simple as a battle between good and evil and more than likely as face value as Scripture tells us. We just need to figure out exactly who the Prince of Darkness actually is. When we as a species used the internet to our advantage, they responded with censorship, canceling and a ratcheting down of human rights. Of course things are getting darker. Look at what we have been through! And worse, what is to come!
But unfortuately, the one thing we are forgetting is that we have to submit to this darkness. It cannot gain foothold without our acquiesence. And it appears that a good percentage of humanity is submitting. But our power lies in our free will. We cannot give that away. Not for a job, not for anything. We also need to re-introduce humor and light-heartedness into our collective perspective. It would be very difficult for evil to get the upper hand when we are all laughing in its face! If there were a way to make laughter spread as quickly as "Let's go Brandon" (which is fantastic btw), I honestly believe that we would see an instant paradigm shift. We forget that we hold the power. And we can't take it back with our heads down.
Maybe we could do something here at PA. A Laughter initiative of sorts. See if it has a ripple effect. As always, the quantum universe rewards us with that thing that holds our attention. Whether it is something that we want or something that we don't want. The program cannot tell the difference. Positive and negative intent are lost on it. It just interpretes repeated themes. The dark ones know this and they are using it to their advantage. So, is there anything we can do to stop it?
Edit to add:
The first Apple logo/graphic is not the Garden of Eden. It is Sir Isaac Newton waiting for the apple to fall on his head.
Journeyman
11th November 2021, 22:15
it is like we are gradually robed of life joy and turned into more and more robotic beings with tendency to become even more robotic...not to mention that nowadays almost everyone prefers to spend time with screens instead of with people...
I think Rudolph Steiner's prophecies are becoming realised. There's a concerted push to bring about the Age of Ahriman. One of the biggest leaps that I had to make over the past years was not to recognise a global hidden government, but that at its heart was the occult. The cult that rules practices Sorcery, ritual and symbol magic that gives them power, keeps the populace asleep etc. You can see it in the buildings, the flags, the crests, the logos of the companies they own, the sports teams etc. The hidden hand operates through hidden knowledge, likely passed down from Babylon and earlier. I think we are currently at the cusp of a new age and the evil that we can see around us is a result of the ruling controllers seeking to game the system, to ensure that they get to stay in charge and define the next age as they have the last. They live lives of inversion, talk in codes, work via symbol and sigil magic, theurgy and plain old fashioned lying. Everything right now is turned up to ten. If you're not twisted it's horrible to witness.
Michel Leclerc
11th November 2021, 23:26
To the OP above. As you mention Apple, and its occult logo, did you know the following?
The FIRST Apple I was sold for $ 666.66. The reason "why" is quite obvious and I don't think we should believe the explanation given below.
(...)
The first unit produced was used in a high school math class, and donated to Liza Loop's public-access computer center.[15] About 200 units were produced, and all but 25 were sold within nine or ten months.[12][/I]
That's really interesting. I didn't know that. And the bite out of the apple a clear reference to the Garden of Eden is another satanic reference.
Maybe. There is certainly a joke behind the choice of the name itself. In Latin – through which language the Old Testament and the Gospels finally seeped through into the Western part of the Roman Empire, whose heirs the "colonising European nations" (simply put: Western Europe, and hence the United States *) were – the following pun was well-understood. The Latin word for "apple" was malum with a long "a" (pronounced as "maaahloom" (with the "oo" as in "book")); the Latin word for "evil" was malum with a short "a" (pronounced as "malloom" with the "a" sounding more or less like the American pronunciation of the "o" in "dog"). The pun was obvious to Latin speakers’ eyes, if not to Latin-speakers’ ears, as, though having different-sounding a’s, the two words were written with the same "a".
This pun, which proved quite fruitful for the evolution of Christianity, is absent from the Hebrew text of the Old Testament (where just the Hebrew word for "fruit" is used) as well as from the Greek translation. In Islam, the forbidden “fruit of evil" is a fig.
Incidentally, another pun is hidden in the word. It was not lost on the Latin-speaking Christians that evil came, yes from the Serpent, but through Eve, the feminine. “Underpunning” this notion was the fact that the "ma-" of malum (evil) and malum (apple) was also the "ma-" of mamma, nurse, breast, nipple, and, obviously, mater, mother, literally breast-feeder. Augustine, the great streamliner of Western Christianity, knew this, as he knew what the “masculine” corresponding fruit was, the pirum, or pear. Not only its shape looked more like the male organ to be hidden from the eyes as women’s breasts were, but it also began with the p of pater, father, literally bumper, and a lot of other "male" words like "palus" (pole) etc. In Augustine’s Confessions, there is a youth experience he sheds many tears of contrition about, and which was one of those experiences that epitomised evil in his eyes: he and a handful other youngsters of his little home-town indulged one night in stealing the pears growing on a neighbour’s pear-tree. From the words he uses to describe the utter depravity of the experience, it is not difficult to grasp that he and his comrades did quite a different thing with their pears than eating them. (Or maybe they did, eat them, that is.) When in his thirties the moment of his conversion came, in which his Christian mother Monica was instrumental, it happened in Milan, under a fig-tree.
Poor innocent fruit! When one is bent on doing evil, any type of fruit may do.
* the Old Testament was in its Septuagint Greek translation (or creation, as some think) known by the bilingual Latin-Greek Roman upperclass at the latest from Cicero’s and Caesar’s times through the first “Principes” (princes, i.e. emperors) up to the second century (Marcus Aurelius wrote his sublime thoughts in Greek), but by the time the Western part was ripe for being gobbled up by the Huns and the Germanic peoples from the North, knowledge of Greek had become a rarity – Augustine positively disliked Greek and his access to Scripture was in essence only to its Latin version.
Michel Leclerc
11th November 2021, 23:35
Conceivable that Jobs and the other Apple pranksters knew Latin, and had even read Augustine.
As for their company, they ended up naming it Apple. Pear was never considered, if I remember rightly.
Michel Leclerc
11th November 2021, 23:49
it is like we are gradually robed of life joy and turned into more and more robotic beings with tendency to become even more robotic...not to mention that nowadays almost everyone prefers to spend time with screens instead of with people...
I think Rudolph Steiner's prophecies are becoming realised. There's a concerted push to bring about the Age of Ahriman. One of the biggest leaps that I had to make over the past years was not to recognise a global hidden government, but that at its heart was the occult. The cult that rules practices Sorcery, ritual and symbol magic that gives them power, keeps the populace asleep etc. You can see it in the buildings, the flags, the crests, the logos of the companies they own, the sports teams etc. The hidden hand operates through hidden knowledge, likely passed down from Babylon and earlier. I think we are currently at the cusp of a new age and the evil that we can see around us is a result of the ruling controllers seeking to game the system, to ensure that they get to stay in charge and define the next age as they have the last. They live lives of inversion, talk in codes, work via symbol and sigil magic, theurgy and plain old fashioned lying. Everything right now is turned up to ten. If you're not twisted it's horrible to witness.
Quite, dear Journeyman. Each one of your sentences. One is not twisted when one continues, amidst it all, to cherish intimacy, which is a thing of just a few humans : the space, or time, in which truth is sensed and shared, in which they are filled with beauty, in which they love to add to the happiness of the other(s). Everything surrounding these sacred spaces and times we cherish, has become the reign of the lie, of ugliness, of hatred. Friendship, love, intimacy have become a matter of life and death.
O Donna
12th November 2021, 04:25
Don't you feel that this reality is becoming darker and darker? Could it be the case that we are slowly step by step initiated in satanic New World Order through events, media, entertainment industry?
I've had a similar feeling from time-to-time but what if its always been dark the difference being (symbolically) red or blue?
https://helios-i.mashable.com/imagery/articles/00udXpWTvQKd6rRX38eK8qw/hero-image.fill.size_1200x1200.v1631062506.png
Mike Gorman
12th November 2021, 05:59
This clash between what we have identified as being 'Good/Evil' has been with us for a very long time: which is an understatement of universal proportion. That which takes place in love is beyond good and evil, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law - love under will. What we are witnessing in the most recent times seems to be the triumph of material secularism - Christianity is no longer the creed of our topmost strata (Constantine made Christianity the religion of power), the folks who possess the most and who populate those Bilderberg/Davos type organizations are pure rationalists, they have no sympathy for the Christian Rubes!
Trump revealed this division very starkly, his rise to brief power (albeit severely restrained and sabotaged) has shown us the true objectives of the most powerful group in our civilization - they detested Trump and what he stands for, they hate those who believe as he does.
Apple, The Beatles of course had their Apple Corp.
mozo33
12th November 2021, 06:12
To the OP above. As you mention Apple, and its occult logo, did you know the following?
The FIRST Apple I was sold for $ 666.66. The reason "why" is quite obvious and I don't think we should believe the explanation given below.
(...)
The first unit produced was used in a high school math class, and donated to Liza Loop's public-access computer center.[15] About 200 units were produced, and all but 25 were sold within nine or ten months.[12][/I]
That's really interesting. I didn't know that. And the bite out of the apple a clear reference to the Garden of Eden is another satanic reference.
Maybe. There is certainly a joke behind the choice of the name itself. In Latin – through which language the Old Testament and the Gospels finally seeped through into the Western part of the Roman Empire, whose heirs the "colonising European nations" (simply put: Western Europe, and hence the United States *) were – the following pun was well-understood. The Latin word for "apple" was malum with a long "a" (pronounced as "maaahloom" (with the "oo" as in "book")); the Latin word for "evil" was malum with a short "a" (pronounced as "malloom" with the "a" sounding more or less like the American pronunciation of the "o" in "dog"). The pun was obvious to Latin speakers’ eyes, if not to Latin-speakers’ ears, as, though having different-sounding a’s, the two words were written with the same "a".
This pun, which proved quite fruitful for the evolution of Christianity, is absent from the Hebrew text of the Old Testament (where just the Hebrew word for "fruit" is used) as well as from the Greek translation. In Islam, the forbidden “fruit of evil" is a fig.
Incidentally, another pun is hidden in the word. It was not lost on the Latin-speaking Christians that evil came, yes from the Serpent, but through Eve, the feminine. “Underpunning” this notion was the fact that he "ma-" of malum (evil) and malum (apple) was also the "ma-" of mamma, nurse, breast, nipple, and, obviously, mater, mother, literally breast-feeder. Augustine, the great streamliner of Western Christianity, knew this, as he knew what the “masculine” corresponding fruit was, the pirum, or pear. Not only its shape looked more like the male organ to be hidden from the eyes as women’s breasts were, but it also began with the p of pater, father, literally bumper, and a lot of other "male" words like "palus" (pole) etc. In Augustine’s Confessions, there is a youth experience he sheds many tears of contrition about, and which was one of those experiences that epitomised evil in his eyes: he and a handful other youngsters of his little home-town indulged one night in stealing the pears growing on a neighbour’s pear-tree. From the words he uses to describe the utter depravity of the experience, it is not difficult to grasp that he and his comrades did quite a different thing with their pears than eating them. (Or maybe they did, eat them, that is.) When in his thirties the moment of his conversion came, in which his Christian mother Monica was instrumental, it happened in Milan, under a fig-tree.
Poor innocent fruit! When one is bent on doing evil, any type of fruit may do.
* the Old Testament was in its Septuagint Greek translation (or creation, as some think) known by the bilingual Latin-Greek Roman upperclass at the latest from Cicero’s and Caesar’s times through the first “Principes” (princes, i.e. emperors) up to the second century (Marcus Aurelius wrote his sublime thoughts in Greek), but by the time the Western part was ripe for being gobbled up by the Huns and the Germanic peoples from the North, knowledge of Greek had become a rarity – Augustine positively disliked Greek and his access to Scripture was in essence only to its Latin version.
33 times the phrase that was translated Fig Tree appears in the Bible ... the same amount of time the woman spends in the blood of her separation ...
the fig tree is symbolic of many things ... to eat of the forbidden tree, is the same thing or the process of covering yourself with fig leaves, it's what the eating produces, which equate to thoughts, where the law of our mind puts us under subjection to the image that is our perception of all things around us. It was the first part of the phrase An adding of sin unto sin. The image this eating produces, is likened to the king of Israel, or the image that is the lie, which speaks to the image set up in the holy place, which equates to our soul, just one of many pictures of this same image, that is a lie ...
Agape
12th November 2021, 11:39
Everyone complains of the vows of mortality. Geeks and philosophers, transhumanists and exobiologist , we all heck fail to explain why is this planet causing us sharp downfalls and why are we all up and against it, trying to suspend the motion.
Remember the 23rd Tarot card that only comes with special packs is called the Great Separator ( or something like that ).
My immediate intuitive answer to the question ( we have been probably asking for long enough ) is that it’s getting Lighter and Darker at the same time.
Part of the energy, the energy we partake of by choice or destiny degrades and falls into deep abyss at all times.
But before it ever occurred and after it has separated itself from its original vector - of meaning- its Lighter , mirror like photocopy ascends , advances into the Light merging zone , recharges, returns back in new constellation and order of things.
So I’d say they are both happening almost simultaneous paths of evolution , sometimes it happens over long epochs in history , in our accelerated period of time we may possibly predict both waves of evolution and devolution coinciding ,
even bringing each other back up and down.
When looking to the rays of bright Sun or on high UV days,
brighter the light darkens the vision inside the Eye.
Did Alan Turing inspire Apple Logo? (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/64049/did-alan-turing-inspire-apple-logo)
It maybe when our vision darkens new picture emerges.
That’s why, don’t look to the bright lights , don’t allow their machines destroy your hearing. Don’t let them play Their music for you ,
don’t let them play your drums.
Always ask: Who is the dreamer or the Dream. Who is the drummer ?
Don’t let them replace -you- with a barcode.
They think they are smart but there is one question no one has fully answered yet.
🦢
Pam
12th November 2021, 12:26
it is like we are gradually robed of life joy and turned into more and more robotic beings with tendency to become even more robotic...not to mention that nowadays almost everyone prefers to spend time with screens instead of with people...
I think Rudolph Steiner's prophecies are becoming realised. There's a concerted push to bring about the Age of Ahriman. One of the biggest leaps that I had to make over the past years was not to recognise a global hidden government, but that at its heart was the occult. The cult that rules practices Sorcery, ritual and symbol magic that gives them power, keeps the populace asleep etc. You can see it in the buildings, the flags, the crests, the logos of the companies they own, the sports teams etc. The hidden hand operates through hidden knowledge, likely passed down from Babylon and earlier. I think we are currently at the cusp of a new age and the evil that we can see around us is a result of the ruling controllers seeking to game the system, to ensure that they get to stay in charge and define the next age as they have the last. They live lives of inversion, talk in codes, work via symbol and sigil magic, theurgy and plain old fashioned lying. Everything right now is turned up to ten. If you're not twisted it's horrible to witness.
This is the crux of the whole thing. I so appreciate :
There's a concerted push to bring about the Age of Ahriman. One of the biggest leaps that I had to make over the past years was not to recognise a global hidden government, but that at its heart was the occult. This new control system evolving occultly under the influence of the Ahrimanic impulse is basically a psychic rape of of the human species. For the Ahrimanic force to manifest it requires total submission, they must break the human spirit.
I don't want to go too off course here but according to the writings of Rudolph Steiner ,Ahriman will have taken on a bodily manifestation and be in his early twenties, most likely residing in North America. Another interesting and hopeful note, Rudolph Steiner stated he too would be incarnated at this same time and is approximately the same age.
The impulse is here, what we choose to do with it is what really matters.
At any rate, the age of tyranny is trying to wrap it's tentacles around us. AriG, you are so right about humor. Humor and finding beauty are two wonderful tools to deal with these times.
1212is24
12th November 2021, 12:46
I don't even think Black Mirror had an episode reflecting the current nature of what's going on.
My joy, personally, comes from setting goals I can work towards, and establishing myself as a successful figure so that I can use my position ti expose all of the nonsense we currently see around us. For me, I've never liked the idea of being a victim or feeling sorry for myself about the way things are (although lately I have been extremely tested in this regard). We are all here to create our own experiences, and we are all connected. Not all of us will agree, and none of us are the same. So, it's rather futile to ever try and hope for perfection or harmony in any sense. Problems will always exist.
Edit: I realize I made a few spelling mistakes, but since I complained about spelling, I guess the irony alone means I should keep them there. Lol
As someone who has seen a lot of racism growing up, I can honestly say that is an area in which I believe society has made huge progress. Also, gay people are treated better than ever. Actually, I now believe that it has become trendy for some to identify as being gay, even if they may not be... It's kind of like Ed Norton's character in Fight Club attending all of those meetings for various problems, because it is addictive to identify with subsections of society and feel like you 'belong'...but that's another topic altogether. I'm at peace with myself being a lone wolf and frankly I find humanity quite amusing now. I encounter so many people who are ignorant beyond belief, and I often wonder where they get their confidence from, and how they develop their opinions. Whenever I dissect what they are saying and explain how they may be wrong I am dismissed quickly, and that's fine too. Hell, even if they attack me, I'm totally okay with that as well! I am literally now just entertained by everything I see, even though it makes me sad in a sense.
I am told that most people meet on 'Tinder' these days. Isn't that crazy? When I tried to explain to a few people recently how wrong that whole concept is, they told me they thought it was 'safer' than the way peopled used to meet (either through friends or, God forbid, randomly somewhere in public). Well, I must admit, I am living in a place that is full of idiots, and even the people who I agree with about a lot of issues (conspiracies etc.) often disappoint me. It's little things, like having poor spelling or sharing things from websites that are clearly not useful. This is the weird thing about it all... The 'mainstream' is almost just as bad as the 'non-mainstream lunatics' right now, and for those of us in-between who won't go too far in either direction, it's a difficult time to try and make sense of things. It seems to be in our nature to always have a POLAR view on things. Some people get very emotional about the most trivial things, like, is your phone Apple or Android? Do you like Trump or Biden? Are you pro-vax or anti-vax? Etc............ It's quite insane. I've seen people nearly come to blows arguing about who was better, Lebron James or Michael Jordan. LOL. It's like, they're both great, can't we be grateful for that? Jesus. Hahahah... hence, it's entertaining. And for the record, MJ is the best, and I was the one who nearly came to blows. (JOKING!)
Wind
12th November 2021, 13:30
The hour is darkest just before the dawn. These are the spiritual dark times, this is Kali Yuga after all.
The question is if we want to be slaves in The New World Order or sovereign beings in the New Aquarian Age.
I don't want to go too off course here but according to the writings of Rudolph Steiner ,Ahriman will have taken on a bodily manifestation and be in his early twenties, most likely residing in North America. Another interesting and hopeful note, Rudolph Steiner stated he too would be incarnated at this same time and is approximately the same age.
Interesting and I would not be surprised about that. The dark side has their own pawns too and their tendrils have reached far, but not everything is corrupt. Some beings will not be corrupted and they will be spreading more light to this world. Although I would suggest that people won't look up for outside authorities to give away their own power, I think it should be remembered that currently there have been born and will be born many souls and avatars who are working for the side of the Light and they are here to turn the tide too.
eox5XSIq_tI
Pam
12th November 2021, 14:55
The hour is darkest just before the dawn. These are the spiritual dark times, this is Kali Yuga after all.
The question is if we want to be slaves in The New World Order or sovereign beings in the New Aquarian Age.
I don't want to go too off course here but according to the writings of Rudolph Steiner ,Ahriman will have taken on a bodily manifestation and be in his early twenties, most likely residing in North America. Another interesting and hopeful note, Rudolph Steiner stated he too would be incarnated at this same time and is approximately the same age.
Interesting and I would not be surprised about that. The dark side has their own pawns too and their tendrils have reached far, but not everything is corrupt. Some beings will not be corrupted and they will be spreading more light to this world. Although I would suggest that people won't look up for outside authorities to give away their own power, I think it should be remembered that currently there have been born and will be born many souls and avatars who are working for the side of the Light and they are here to turn the tide too.
eox5XSIq_tI
Those that chose to embrace the gift of free will and choose the natural order given to us in the creation vs the synthetic changes offered by transhumanism are most definitely becoming stronger. The situation almost warrants finding our own inner strength or sticking our heads in the sand. I, personally know I would not have put such a concerted effort to commit to the light and the gifts of free will and being a sovereign being to the same degree I have if we had not been thrown into this intense inversion, witnessed the lies and observed the gas lighting.
Michel Leclerc
13th November 2021, 00:39
To the OP above. As you mention Apple, and its occult logo, did you know the following?
(...)
[12][/I]
That's really interesting. I didn't know that. And the bite out of the apple a clear reference to the Garden of Eden is another satanic reference.
Maybe. There is certainly a joke behind the choice of the name itself. (...)
(...)
33 times the phrase that was translated Fig Tree appears in the Bible ... the same amount of time the woman spends in the blood of her separation ...
the fig tree is symbolic of many things ... to eat of the forbidden tree, is the same thing or the process of covering yourself with fig leaves, it's what the eating produces, which equate to thoughts, where the law of our mind puts us under subjection to the image that is our perception of all things around us. It was the first part of the phrase An adding of sin unto sin. The image this eating produces, is likened to the king of Israel, or the image that is the lie, which speaks to the image set up in the holy place, which equates to our soul, just one of many pictures of this same image, that is a lie ...
Thank you Mozo. May I ask you for a little more explicit development of your thoughts starting with your sentence "The image this eating produces, is likened to the king of Israel"? And also: to what extent are your thoughts in this paragraph suggested by passages in the Zohar? If that is the case, I would love to look them up.
Michel Leclerc
13th November 2021, 01:11
Everyone complains of the vows of mortality. (...).
My immediate intuitive answer to the question ( we have been probably asking for long enough ) is that it’s getting Lighter and Darker at the same time.
(...)
So I’d say they are both happening almost simultaneous paths of evolution , sometimes it happens over long epochs in history , in our accelerated period of time we may possibly predict both waves of evolution and devolution coinciding ,
even bringing each other back up and down.
(...)
It maybe when our vision darkens new picture emerges.
That’s why, don’t look to the bright lights , don’t allow their machines destroy your hearing. Don’t let them play Their music for you ,
don’t let them play your drums.
Always ask: Who is the dreamer or the Dream. Who is the drummer ?
Don’t let them replace -you- with a barcode.
They think they are smart but there is one question no one has fully answered yet.
🦢
Thank you Agape. I resonate with the width of your inspired writing; definitely agree with "both at the same time". And more than that: it is not just "dark" and "light", it is also 'purple" and green" and... and... and also the colours butterflies can see and we can’t.
To get back to the apple stories in and around the Bible, and to Turing. That it was an apple (the feminine "malum" – evil apple – Eve’s apple) he was led to bite in was obviously a hint at his preferred love for men – which, characteristically, the people of the British secret services, themselves occasionally prone to "buggering", were unable to conceive of as anything else but church&state-persecuted "sodomy" in which Turing, again according to their thinking, would have taken on the "passive", and hence the "feminine" role.
As Mozo points out, even Adam had to wear fig leaves. There was no serpent inviting him to bite in a pear, as there was no pear laced with semen for Turing (if I may be allowed to borrow a sweet turn of events in "Call me by your name" involving a peach).
The denial with which the creator of the Apple logo meets all those "interpretations of hidden meanings" completely misses the point: not what was consciously intended is interesting (as that is always the result of a form of self-censorship) but what may have played in the background as possible, even possibly unconscious, associations. The fact that readers/interpreters think of the apple of Turing or Eve when considering Apple’s logo demonstrates that such associations are possible; and that they are possible with the interpreters proves that they could have played in the conscious or subconscious, or superconscious "consciousness" of the creator as well.
As St. Paul says: “to gramma apokteinei, alla to pneuma zoopoiei” (το γραμμα αποκτεινει αλλα το πνευμα ζωοποιει): literally, "the written kills, but the spirit makes living".
Patient
13th November 2021, 01:28
I realize that we are talking about "dark" as evil, but I came into this thread based upon the title alone because...
it was so dark outside last night, it was unnerving. Similar to how a night feels when there is a heavy fog, yet there was no visible fog.
Tonight is similar. Weird.
I have a 12ft blow-up Santa Claus at the front of the house. (With a light inside it.) On other nights I would come out the side door and I could see some light casted by it - so I knew that it was still standing upright before actually laying my eyes on it. Tonight, I could not tell if it was on and standing up until I walked out to where I was able to actually see it. It is like the light is not travelling far - but of course it is because if it wasn't, I would not see it at all.
So I am going to say "Yes, it is getting darker compared to times past."
I guess that it is time for us all to make sure that we are shining our light bright enough for others' to see!
mozo33
13th November 2021, 06:54
To the OP above. As you mention Apple, and its occult logo, did you know the following?
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That's really interesting. I didn't know that. And the bite out of the apple a clear reference to the Garden of Eden is another satanic reference.
Maybe. There is certainly a joke behind the choice of the name itself. (...)
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33 times the phrase that was translated Fig Tree appears in the Bible ... the same amount of time the woman spends in the blood of her separation ...
the fig tree is symbolic of many things ... to eat of the forbidden tree, is the same thing or the process of covering yourself with fig leaves, it's what the eating produces, which equate to thoughts, where the law of our mind puts us under subjection to the image that is our perception of all things around us. It was the first part of the phrase An adding of sin unto sin. The image this eating produces, is likened to the king of Israel, or the image that is the lie, which speaks to the image set up in the holy place, which equates to our soul, just one of many pictures of this same image, that is a lie ...
Thank you Mozo. May I ask you for a little more explicit development of your thoughts starting with your sentence "The image this eating produces, is likened to the king of Israel"? And also: to what extent are your thoughts in this paragraph suggested by passages in the Zohar? If that is the case, I would love to look them up.
Hi Michel
"The image this eating produces, is likened to the king of Israel"
the image is the lie we have of self seeded by the creation, which speaks to our natural mind of flesh, this perception as in our identity is spoken of as being Gods first born (Israel ) ... which as you know this first born is not accepted etc
the eating speaks to our reasoning between two fruits of a tree (which in picture is is the two sons/perceptions of Adam/man) as in a duality of mind which is a mixture of both, which again speaks to the image/king of Israel/first born ...
the women in scripture (pictured both as a virgin and harlot) is our soul dependent on who her husband is ... her husband relates to her identity which is seen in her son or what the seed in her produces ...
what i write you will not find explained in any book other than the scriptures , but when you begin to see these patterns you will find them in everything ....
hm337
14th November 2021, 11:17
With the apple offered to Eve came the promise of becoming like Gods. Same is the promise of new technologies represented with Apple and its logo. New technologies are literary the new forbidden fruit offered to the mankind.
Transhumanism speaks of immortality, obtaining superpowers and similar things. As we see nothing is changed in a promise that Satan gives to humanity in order to seduce it. He just does not reveal that this God like creatures will be separated from God and love, that they will perhaps have super intelligence augmented by biotech hacks but will lose soul.
More we are in new technologies less we are humans and that can be seen if we compare humans now and humans prior to being imprisoned in the colorful screens world of today staring into screens like we are enchanted by an evil witch. Magic is ultimately just a technology. But this magic is somehow making all the colors of life move from life itself into screens. We are becoming addicted to technology.
Question is how to be human in modern world. Perhaps a solution is in reading books instead of browsing net, having real life friendships instead of social networks, spending time with humans and not with screens, saying no to transhumanistic agenda by not allowing them to fill us with graphene (or whatever nanotechnology is based upon) and connect to AI.
Pam
14th November 2021, 12:29
With the apple offered to Eve came the promise of becoming like Gods. Same is the promise of new technologies represented with Apple and its logo. New technologies are literary the new forbidden fruit offered to the mankind.
Transhumanism speaks of immortality, obtaining superpowers and similar things. As we see nothing is changed in a promise that Satan gives to humanity in order to seduce it. He just does not reveal that this God like creatures will be separated from God and love, that they will perhaps have super intelligence augmented by biotech hacks but will lose soul.
More we are in new technologies less we are humans and that can be seen if we compare humans now and humans prior to being imprisoned in the colorful screens world of today staring into screens like we are enchanted by an evil witch. Magic is ultimately just a technology. But this magic is somehow making all the colors of life move from life itself into screens. We are becoming addicted to technology.
Question is how to be human in modern world. Perhaps a solution is in reading books instead of browsing net, having real life friendships instead of social networks, spending time with humans and not with screens, saying no to transhumanistic agenda by not allowing them to fill us with graphene (or whatever nanotechnology is based upon) and connect to AI.
First of all a big welcome to the forum, hm337!!! Your post is very thought provoking, the kind I love.
I have been coming to a understanding of the work of Rudolph Steiner, a most remarkable visionary. What you are saying fits in so beautifully to his work. He tells us we are under a triad of impulses. Christ consciousness, Luciferian consciousness which was in full influence in the garden of eden. Luciferian influence promotes using your free will any way you want to without restraint. Now as we come into the full influence of the Ahrimanic influence as you so beautifully stated mankind has been presented the apple of technology. With that magic the price is you give up your free will and you join the hive mind. You exchange your freewill for the technology. So with the first apple we experienced free will on steroids, not balanced by wisdom, the second apple will be willfully forfeiting free will for the immortality technology that Ahriman will offer. Christ consciousness is the balance between this free will in harmony with nature and balanced with wisdom.
I absolutely love the fractal nature of the bible.
Manasaki
14th November 2021, 12:37
The more light we shine on a subject, the more Truth is revealed and since the increasing collective is discovering a level of cognitive dissonance as the world they thought they understood unravels, there is bound to be a sense of things being worse than ever. In many cases it is a state of mind thing -- up until recently.
We have headed into a time where the boundaries between dark and light, between what we choose to tolerate and what we choose to discard, are being sorely tested. Less of an IQ test and more of a Spiritual Quotient test - your intuition, knowing, whatever you call it - it is incredibly important at the moment because it steers the direction of your trajectory, and your energy if you reiki or similar... it is no wonder you were convinced you were cuckoo for cocopops -- intuition stands between Humanity and complete enslavement.
And with the Dark fighting for survival, also feels like they've Levelled up to fighting for Supremacy - and if you are aware of what has happened over the past few years (I look forward to discovering what was uncovered - fill in any gaps of understanding) - behind the curtain is a power struggle at the end of many thousands of years marching toward this conclusion.
In response to the question of your post. Yes, in essence I'd say that things are darker than they have ever been for the majority of humankind. Can't be dark forever though. Day will break. Consciousness is a lighthouse in the storm.
Pam
14th November 2021, 13:04
The more light we shine on a subject, the more Truth is revealed and since the increasing collective is discovering a level of cognitive dissonance as the world they thought they understood unravels, there is bound to be a sense of things being worse than ever. In many cases it is a state of mind thing -- up until recently.
We have headed into a time where the boundaries between dark and light, between what we choose to tolerate and what we choose to discard, are being sorely tested. Less of an IQ test and more of a Spiritual Quotient test - your intuition, knowing, whatever you call it - it is incredibly important at the moment because it steers the direction of your trajectory, and your energy if you reiki or similar... it is no wonder you were convinced you were cuckoo for cocopops -- intuition stands between Humanity and complete enslavement.
And with the Dark fighting for survival, also feels like they've Levelled up to fighting for Supremacy - and if you are aware of what has happened over the past few years (I look forward to discovering what was uncovered - fill in any gaps of understanding) - behind the curtain is a power struggle at the end of many thousands of years marching toward this conclusion.
In response to the question of your post. Yes, in essence I'd say that things are darker than they have ever been for the majority of humankind. Can't be dark forever though. Day will break. Consciousness is a lighthouse in the storm.
Welcome to the forum Manasaki!!! We are gaining some very interesting new members!! I find that exciting.
We are most definitely living in epic times. Sometimes I can see it for the honor that it is. Having said that, it doesn't make it any easier.
intuition stands between Humanity and complete enslavement
So true regarding intuition. We have been programmed for ages to ignore or discount our intuition and go with what we are told by the "experts"or "authorities". At best we will use logic to guide us. Most of us have let our intuition wither. It's a use it or lose it kind of thing. The good thing is that it's never to late to start using it again. Like lifting weights will build muscle, we can build on our intuitive skills. When I finally began to honor my intuition my life changed dramatically, for the good I might add. We are all being asked by the universe how do we want to use our gift of free will?
You are so right, it won't stay dark forever, it is always changing. Everything is in the process of transmuting into something new.
palehorse
14th November 2021, 15:12
With the apple offered to Eve came the promise of becoming like Gods. Same is the promise of new technologies represented with Apple and its logo. New technologies are literary the new forbidden fruit offered to the mankind.
Transhumanism speaks of immortality, obtaining superpowers and similar things. As we see nothing is changed in a promise that Satan gives to humanity in order to seduce it. He just does not reveal that this God like creatures will be separated from God and love, that they will perhaps have super intelligence augmented by biotech hacks but will lose soul.
More we are in new technologies less we are humans and that can be seen if we compare humans now and humans prior to being imprisoned in the colorful screens world of today staring into screens like we are enchanted by an evil witch. Magic is ultimately just a technology. But this magic is somehow making all the colors of life move from life itself into screens. We are becoming addicted to technology.
Question is how to be human in modern world. Perhaps a solution is in reading books instead of browsing net, having real life friendships instead of social networks, spending time with humans and not with screens, saying no to transhumanistic agenda by not allowing them to fill us with graphene (or whatever nanotechnology is based upon) and connect to AI.
Superb!!! :handshake:
hm337
16th November 2021, 13:12
What if all this darkening of our reality culminating with covid19 plandemic is there just to prevent people from ascension? What if covid19 jabs have the same purpose?
Pam
16th November 2021, 14:40
What if all this darkening of our reality culminating with covid19 plandemic is there just to prevent people from ascension? What if covid19 jabs have the same purpose? I tend to look at injections as a really strong stimulus to choose whether you prefer to put your head in the sand and relinquish your free will to the "authorities" or do you choose to utilize your free will by making a choice that you will assert your own sovereign nature to make a decision that is best for you and possibly your family.
Many will choose to stay in the realm of living under gas lighting, dishonest authority of men and women that are abusing their power, that are willing to kill and torture children rather than assert their own authority and free will. So in a sense at least for current times, or this life they will prevent themselves from any sort of ascension, (that word means different things to different people)while others will find their courage and embrace the gift of having free will and give it value over maintaining their position or status in this current system.
The Jabs have certainly created discomfort for most of us, but they are also an incentive. A pivotal point. Do we continue to support a system that has devolved to such a degree that the lies and gas lighting are right out in our faces. A system that doesn't even attempt to explain away their inconsistencies and constant gaslighting. A system that disregards our well being and mocks us? A system that is 2 tiers for the so called elite and then for the rest of us.
They have committed so heavily to the whole covid narrative, they cannot back down at this point. it makes it hard to just keep your head in the sand. So in a sense this is the perfect incentive or opportunity if looked at as that. It has certainly given me a new appreciation of the gift of free will and with that a sense of responsibility to use it wisely.
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