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thepainterdoug
23rd November 2021, 02:04
I hate people. Adults to be specific. I have come to a point of my life where I have observed enough. People are cunning , strategic and dishonest at best, and ruthless and evil at their worst . And it's all getting worse.
Adults are liars and manipulative, in order to get what they want. Anyone surprised?
I love children. And help yourself perverts to what I will say, as you are in the category I mention above.
Children like animals are loving, expecting, forgiving , hopeful and beautifully innocent.
And baby animals, like baby children, are perfect. They are all looking towards us adults to protect , guide and save them. And god damn those who don't!
I resent I cannot admire the beauty of children in public . I resent beauty is now on trial . I resent Im being asked to lie about everything.
I am not racist. If I am , everyone is. Tribes have been around since day one we humans arrived, destroying each other for resources , food, water, fire, women and so on. Pure survival, so pure racism. Its not my plan.
So all people are tribal, meaning "racist" in todays manipulative and dishonest moment we live designed to divide and make money. Money the root of all ****ing evil for sure. .
I haven't had a hug from a women or a love relationship in close to 10 years. Yes, sorry Im a boring and predictable non sensational or newsworthy heterosexual .
I hate how sex identity has been made into such a dividing thing . Its as if its the only identity a person has! IM LGBTQRSTUVW, and I demand etc. F*** you, stop leading with you sex organs. No one ****ing cares!
It's a no win situation because everyone is “ actualized” . All brainwashed, they need to win, be on top, don't yield rather than harmonize or compliment. Anyone happy as they google their answers?
Everyone desperately working out , treadmills, pumping and Pilates , all to loneliness, holding on to what is only fleeting and will eventually pass.
I Have never seen more young women alone in packs at restaurants, 10 at a table. Without an attorney, no man dare approach.
Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.
Im already very ready to die now, to die off and make room for these liars, these thieves of spirit and truth trying to inherit the planet.
Perhaps I know nothing and Im an idiot? I don't know, and it doesn't matter.
Look around friends, 2022, going to be very hard.
ExomatrixTV
23rd November 2021, 02:14
“Love is the absence of fear ... as evil is the absence of love.”
LoveHate-Metaphysics-Explained (http://tinyurl.com/LoveHate-Metaphysics-Explained)
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Strat
23rd November 2021, 02:33
God bless you Doug. You're older and wiser than me but if I may humbly offer my 2 cents it's that you're burned out and need a break of sorts. Life is good my friend, don't let it get you down. There's darkness everywhere but the sun never stopped shining and the flowers never stopped blooming. I think you may have just grown numb to these pleasures or you just stare at the darkness too often. 2021 has been fantastic and I'm damn sure going to make sure 2022 is even better. Much love, everything is ok.
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thepainterdoug
23rd November 2021, 02:38
strat/ thanks, but im in the bellie of the beast, and cant ignore my reality. i dont live in hate, quite the contrary, i just see deciet and division disguised in " love"
rgray222
23rd November 2021, 02:51
Hi Doug
I have always admired and enjoyed reading your post. I believe that you bring an intelligent and artistic flair to your written word and your thinking. I believe much of what you have to say does resonate with people. On more than one occasion your words have given me pause for thought. Out of frustration (or anger), I have painted 'all' people with the same broad brush and have come to realize that it was a huge mistake. It seems that you have done the same in this post. I assure you that most people in this world are honest non-manipulative people and worthy of our trust. Those are the sort of souls you are interacting with here at Avalon.
Harmony
23rd November 2021, 03:32
:grouphug: I understand what you are saying Doug. A sensitive aware person cannot ignore what is happening around the world. rgray222 is right, even though you can't see the good people of this world, we are here, feel your pain, and care. That's important to remember:heart:.
palehorse
23rd November 2021, 04:35
I can feel what you said Doug, do not hate all people, if you do then you are just labeling them all as bad and that is not true, not everybody is hateful, but yeah some category is really a burden on society (aka politicians and their legion of minions), of course not limited to them only.
That's what life takes, I myself have almost no friends, most part of the time I am alone dealing with my own mediocre situation as human, but I am ok with that and many times I end up laughing of my own situation, because otherwise I would be just fighting against it and I know very well I can't change a sh!t, not that I do not believe in changes, I do, but it happens in the right time, earth is undergoing some big changes specifically about human transformation and it will take a little while until things settle down for good, but we may not be incarnated to see that.
The cycle of evil and good, the so called duality is everywhere, we can't break/change/erase it, but sure we can understand and learn from it.
Just to say, right now I see a huge sh!tstorm and we are right in the middle of it, then when you say "belly of the beast", I do say have your knife ready to open up that belly and walk out of it, because you still alive and pretty much conscious of your situation.
Cheer up and keep going, perhaps try new things, I left big cities a good while ago, could not live under that sort of pointless stupidity that just build up pressure with time.
All the best!
Mike
23rd November 2021, 04:46
A little levity re beauty being on trial and kids. Just a few mins long:
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Doug I can go long periods of time without intimacy as well. Yes, even hugs. And when I do even the slightest touch will make me jump 10 feet into the air. Even if someone just brushes against me in a crowd, I'll react. I haven't worked out the psychology. I just prefer my own company most of the time. And then, when I want some company I'll experience a flourish of intimacy before quickly not caring about it anymore and going back into my shell. Go figure. Maybe it's like you said - too much awkwardness out there atm and the effort hardly seems worth it
You know what will change your view in a heartbeat? Just a hug. One warm hug from the right woman. Your faith will be restored in an instant. All that ice will melt. Just wait. And when it happens make sure to come back here and let everyone know how right I was..because I love being right.
onawah
23rd November 2021, 05:00
Doug, I don't mean to proselytize, but when I have feelings like those you describe (and I have ), I take refuge in the teachings of Buddhism.
They are the four noble truths of the reality of suffering, the cause of suffering, the cessation of suffering and the path to the cessation of suffering.
( I am quoting liberally from this webpage: https://www.lionsroar.com/what-is-suffering-10-buddhist-teachers-weigh-in/
...which features teachings from many different present day sources, and there is much more of value at that link.)
According to Buddhism, we living beings are trapped in the cycles of existence known as samsara.
In samsara, we wander aimlessly and experience unbearable suffering—day and night, year after year, life after life—because of the tight grip of our grasping at self.
In order to heal this disease-like condition, first we have to find its cause, and then we apply the medicine-like path of training to restore our original good health, which is enlightenment.
The Buddha said, “All I teach is suffering and the end of suffering.”
Suffering in his teaching does not necessarily mean grave physical pain, but rather the mental suffering we undergo when our tendency to hold onto pleasure encounters the fleeting nature of life, and our experiences become unsatisfying and ungovernable.
Dukkha, or suffering is the psychological experience—sometimes conscious, sometimes not—of the profound fact that everything is impermanent, ungraspable, and not really knowable.
On some level, we all understand this.
All the things we have, we know we don’t really have.
All the things we see, we’re not entirely seeing.
This is the nature of things, yet we think the opposite.
We think that we can know and possess our lives, our loves, our identities, and even our possessions.
We can’t.
The gap between the reality and the basic human approach to life is dukkha, an experience of basic anxiety or frustration.
On some level, we understand this, yet we resist it.
But when we acknowledge that and we realize that all beings are subject to suffering; that it is inescapable, however much it may vary in degree....
It is possible then to have compassion for others caught in the same web.
But that is only one step on the journey to freedom from suffering.
When we understand that our real Self is not the illusory self we identify with in our day to day life, we can also recognize that what we deeply yearn for is a return to the pure, unfettered Consciousness that is our true, original state
Even just a taste of that reminds us that it is what we are at heart, though we must relinquish attachment to all the impediments that bind us to material existence before we can realize it fully.
And once you reach the seemingly perilous threshold when that begins to become possible, it is not a time to mourn, but to rejoice! :flower: :sun:
iota
23rd November 2021, 06:06
Dear Doug
there is a spark of Divinity within us that remains whether we connect to it or not. most of us play a game of "now and then" and fail to notice that the closer we are to it? the closer to bliss that we feel and the further apart we are from it? the father away from bliss that we feel
and who is making the choice in either direction?
i really like you and can feel the sensitivity in your heart. your compassion, your generosity in sharing your gifts with mankind .. .but as an empath (which you are) the one entrusted to guard over yourself? is you
it is up to you to set boundaries to those who would engage you just to run you round in circles for no other purpose than their amusement. i remember stepping in once as i saw the game about to ensue, with your thread as its selected "target" and you said, "no, i'll allow it" ... i immediately withdrew ... it wasn't much later you wrote of feeling not so happy
i doubt you saw the connection i did
but the fact is that if we play in the mud? we are going to get muddy. it isn't a punishment it is a natural consequence of the choices we make. i remember being in my late 20's and people at that time complaining how they were not happy
i was amazed ... you know the whole "White privilege" thing people talk about? i guess i was asleep or absent when they passed it out. because i don't remember a time in my life EVER feeling "entitled" to anything
anyway, people around me were complaining about not being happy. and though you all might find this surprising? sometime after my stabbing? there is a part of me that became a little child like, a little innocent. it is a secret because i don't need it taken advantage of ... but its true, plus it balances me out when not in "serious life stuff" mode (just think Drew Barrymore if you met me on the street)
so .. i looked at them in wonder. like seriously, because i thought maybe they might be special in some way that no one had told me about yet ... i mean there MUST be a reason WHY they thought they SHOULD be happy. so i did what i do when in situations like that. i keep my mouth shut and just observe thinking maybe that way i can figure it out
but nothing ... there was NO reason, no cause, no "special" designation they had that was the reason behind their complaint.
so finally i just asked. "But WHY is it that you expect to be happy?
(this is a true story by the way, not an example or analogy)
you should have seen the looks they gave me ... but seriously! if there was some deal i wasn't in on, i'd really like to know
so i continued "i mean is there a reason? have you done something that made you think this would be the outcome?"
it really was getting worse, but now it was ME that started to get annoyed with them, so i continued
"ok ... just tell me. what have you done the past week, the past month, the past year, that made you think happiness should just fall down from the sky upon you?, cause i haven't lived long ... but i've read plenty ... and i've never heard of such a thing! so what exactly is your expectation and complaint based upon?"
and before MY good mood would drop any further? i left. to go pick up my friend and give her a ride to get for a job interview, which she got and hugged and kissed me! then i went to this lady's house, that was in a wheel chair but loved flowers, so i had promised her i'd stop by to pull some weeds. i wasn't very good at gardening, but i could at least do that and follow other simple instructions.... and i liked praying while i did it
by the way, i have determined that what most people call meditating? is what i call praying ... i'm not like talking or making petitions, its more of a reaching up to connect and just maintaining that connection.
anyway, a good hour of THAT and it was like impossible NOT to be in a great mood! especially when my little friend, i started to call "mama" smiled .. .she had the most beautiful smile and pretty blue eyes that just shone when she smiled ... and i loved her til i lost her about a decade later.
then i just "felt" my way throughout the rest of that day, the rest of the week, the rest of the month, the rest of my life ...
and as i "connected" and acted on the impulses i felt? my life was full of synchronicities .. and from two major choices that i made completely in defiance of THAT? i paid ... man i paid ... heck, i am still recovering from thinking i knew what was best for me and would make me happy in direct contradiction to what i was feeling ... to what i knew but was dead set on ignoring ...
and here is the point in all of this.. .i'm not any special ... not any more than you or anyone else ... the same connection and state of bliss is available for ANYONE. as is the choice to cut ourselves off from the spark .. for the billions of reasons that people do ...
ok ...
well within our rights to do so, but not able then to access what WAS possible had we made a different choice nor to escape the natural consequences of the choices we make
the great news is that i've never known anyone to find any degree of AUTHENTIC joy with anything external. no one, for any sustained period of time
the reason, this is good news, is because the key to happiness is NOT "out there", but within. so no extra tools necessary or acquisition of something we don't yet have.
i was pretty lucky in marrying my soulmate, love at first sight long list of good stuff. BUT i paid a price for it as it was my "test" and not the path meant for me.
in case, i doubted that, as though i didn't know darned well the feeling in my tummy warning me? and the absence of the warm peace and calm that is the signature of the Divine? .. THREE Strangers ... years apart ... in different cities ... ALL said to me in almost the exact ... scratch the "almost" .. .it was said to me in the EXACT words:
"the person you are with? is NOT the one you are supposed to be with"
the first time? he was standing right next to me. i promptly ignored and walked away.
but back to people. they will do as they will do. THAT isn't the problem. the issues arise in the "meaning" that we assign their actions. mine used to like ... LOVE to "mess with me"
but it wasn't so much fun when i flipped the script. so when entering and finding me calmly let's say on computer? i'd glance up and smile and continue with what i was doing ... so ... need for attention would change to demand for attention.
at which point (around 2009 so ... about 22 yrs later) i'd say ... "sweetie? looks like you've made the choice to be upset and you would like for me to join you ... but i've had such a great day all day! i really don't feel like changing gears right now .. maybe later, ok?"
oh boy ... jeez!
so then, i'd get up ... cuz there was no getting any quiet now ... and ask
"so this choice your making? is there a timeline on it? like you think an hour? or maybe two? cus i have a few errands to run i can get done in an hour, or if you'll be longer more like two? i promised D. (best friend) we'd go see the new movie that just came out ... and that would even give you a little longer"
by now? it was a point of mastery ... that someone had decided to take me out of my good mood, just because he felt like it and i had ALLOWED it to be done for a couple of decades ... but now, i didn't think i would continue doing that anymore ... and so i didn't.
and he was really great to offer me about eight years more of practice .. he was generously persistent in that way ...
i don't know if you can find any gems in here .. but they're there ... just for some reason, though i would love lessons to be had over a cup of coffee or by reading some book?
the preferred lesson to learn "Swimming" doesn't ever seem to be in a nice clear pool of water with floaties and a nice coach giving directions
Source's way ... is a bit ... um ... effective ...let's call it effective
for me? it would be to be thrown in a pool of mud ... and just figure it out. i'd either start thrashing about as i instinctively would just KNOW if my head went below the mud? i'd probably not survive. so ... my choice would be ... figure it out, learn to swim or die ...
and that is just about the truth of it. but i will say this. once i mastered "Swimming in a pool of mud" .... i had such a mastery in that area that no one with floaties and their nice safety cushion and swimming instructor in clear water seemed to attain.
from that point? i could swim in anything ... so ... not a big fan of the method ... but must concede its effectiveness.
swim my sweet Doug ... swim ... i believe in you! i KNOW you can!!
:heart:
thepainterdoug
23rd November 2021, 07:29
no one out in the world, in my daily life would ever know I would think or say what I have said here. i live a full happy interactive life with everyone, im kind open , loving and very social with a smile for everyone.
i share this with my family here only. this family who understand this is not the totality of me, or of anyone who feels the same for that matter.
all of you who have responded, I thank you, It is appreciated. and I assure you i have visited each and every thought and comment many time before as well as what was stated now.
years of creating paintings as well as writing my musical have given me ample time for thought and reflection, and deep study into the fringe and dark truth of people. no not all people, of course not. but lets just say, things are not what they appear to be.
we are all a bunch of things, its just a matter of degree. some people can live easier with lies and deception, I cannot, but in society we all must do so to some degree.
perhaps my post here will be disturbing to some, and perhaps liberating for others, knowing we are pretty much all the same, Im fine with whatever
mokosh
23rd November 2021, 07:33
Dear Doug,
I hear you, I have no advice just a warm embrace.
iota
23rd November 2021, 07:55
no one out in the world, in my daily life would ever know I would think or say what I have said here. i live a full happy interactive life with everyone, im kind open , loving and very social with a smile for everyone.
i share this with my family here only. this family who understand this is not the totality of me, or of anyone who feels the same for that matter.
all of you who have responded, I thank you, It is appreciated. and I assure you i have visited each and every thought and comment many time before as well as what was stated now.
years of creating paintings as well as writing my musical have given me ample time for thought and reflection, and deep study into the fringe and dark truth of people. no not all people, of course not. but lets just say, things are not what they appear to be.
we are all a bunch of things, its just a matter of degree. some people can live easier with lies and deception, I cannot, but in society we all must do so to some degree.
perhaps my post here will be disturbing to some, and perhaps liberating for others, knowing we are pretty much all the same, Im fine with whatever
dear Doug
i'm sorry, i forgot to thank you for your generosity and trust in sharing with us authentically from your heart. i doubt there are any of us who can't relate. sometimes it helps just to know others have felt it too and a light at the end is possible when we can't see it for a little bit. please know my words are meant to convey "you got this!" cuz i just know you do!
i just went through a really long period of sadness from a loss that occurred every bit as splitting my heart and soul into a million pieces i couldn't see how i could possibly be put back together ...
every day i'm still here still both surprises me, shocks me, amazes me and still other days upsets me
we all have our version and you were very kind to share yours with us! i'm sure it is touching everyone ... thank you again! it takes real courage to speak from one's heart.
:heart:
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thepainterdoug
23rd November 2021, 08:49
Iota/ many thanks. Im sorry to hear that. You have also put your truth out to all of us in your recent post. Many thanks again, and to everyone here, we are all fractals of each other and we can all relate to each others experiences.
An old Werner Erhardt saying, resistance causes persistence. Sometime we just need to let all go and stop lying to ourselves. Theres the person I want to, or wish to be, and then the real me for better or worse.
none of us as children planned on coming to such a conclusion years later . by speaking something, you make it real , it's how you shed a skin and grow. by telling the truth . it's not so bad
thank you all
ediwedi
23rd November 2021, 11:13
I think a good reason why people lie so much is because one of our humans greatest weaknesses is to admit when we are wrong. They will lie and manipulate just to not confront that short bad feeling after admitting or realizing that we/they were wrong.
It is a enormous factor in our lives mixed with fear and especially nowadays the people in charge of the world exploit it to achieve their goals.
We tend to run away from problems or bury them instead of facing them till they catch up on us. We start doing it in childhood, then we eventually learn it only backfires. Some learn but some don't. This is, I believe, why many adults act the way they do. We must remind the people that it is okay to be wrong. And we must not get lost in all this, because there is so many, many of them.
Anyways, don't feel down my friend. Last couple of weeks have been especially hard. It is part of the game plan. There is still some space left in the balloon to push air into before it explodes. There must be good people out there, waiting for the right moment to strike. The world is waking up on a scale like never before in known human history, or at least known history. So we have to be strong and do our part.
Stay positive my friend. For the children!
ExomatrixTV
23rd November 2021, 11:20
Maybe this "P.A. group therapy session" helps, key is living in brutal self-honesty and find others who can mirror that doug:
So let me start:
I (really) do not "hate" people. Adults, that is, but:
01. I do despise most adult people.
02. I look down at most adult people (I wish I didn't).
03. I distance myself from most adult people (which is not "fun" to do).
04. I totally feel disconnected with most adult people.
05. I can not relate to most adult people.
06. I find most adult people repulsive.
07. I see that the stupidity of most adult people seems endless.
08. I chose to avoid most (stupid) adult people.
09. I try not to judge (assumed) stupid adult people, but it is very hard when they are wilful ignorant by choice ... and judge me for not doing what they are doing.
10. I sense super fast misleading/deceptive collectivism (group think) of all kinds in most adult people repeating the status quo narratives which is worse than most horror movies!
11. and I can go on and on and on and on .... up to 100 describing most "adult people".
Because I know I am always more than my physical body (like everybody else is) and am always more than all my thoughts past, present & future combined! ... Am totally aware we all are "spiritually tested" in what we do ... how we do it ... and above all: if I am able to let go of anything that does not belong to my own "spiritual journey".
This awareness is very confrontational to me ... knowing exactly how things work and why ... and even then, I still can do things I rather did not ... So the wiser & more honest you become does not guarantee that it makes you "more happy" ... As real happiness does not require "approval" from anyone even not from yourself ... it is just a state of mind that is genuine appreciation of little things most take for granted!
Am also aware that part of them act dumb, "play along" but are actually on my level not wanting to stand out, or to get noticed! ... Those people could be called "cowards" or being in a (temporary?) state of fear losing jobs to provide for their family!
But this psychological mechanism is exactly why any tyranny can do what they do and (mostly) get away with it if we let them!
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cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
November 23, 2021
Pam
23rd November 2021, 11:31
I hate people. Adults to be specific. I have come to a point of my life where I have observed enough. People are cunning , strategic and dishonest at best, and ruthless and evil at their worst . And it's all getting worse.
Adults are liars and manipulative, in order to get what they want. Anyone surprised?
I love children. And help yourself perverts to what I will say, as you are in the category I mention above.
Children like animals are loving, expecting, forgiving , hopeful and beautifully innocent.
And baby animals, like baby children, are perfect. They are all looking towards us adults to protect , guide and save them. And god damn those who don't!
I resent I cannot admire the beauty of children in public . I resent beauty is now on trial . I resent Im being asked to lie about everything.
I am not racist. If I am , everyone is. Tribes have been around since day one we humans arrived, destroying each other for resources , food, water, fire, women and so on. Pure survival, so pure racism Not my plan.
So all people are tribal, meaning racist in todays manipulative and dishonest moment we live designed to divide and make money. Money the root of all ****ing evil for sure. .
I haven't had a hug from a women or a love relationship in close to 10 years. Yes, sorry Im a boring and predictable non sensational or newsworthy heterosexual .
I hate how sex identity has been made into such a dividing thing .Its as if its the only identity a person has? IM LGBTQRSTUVW, and I demand.... **** you, stop leading with you sex organs. No one ****ing cares!
It's a no win situation because everyone is “ actualized” . All brainwashed they need to win, be on top, don't yield rather than harmonize or compliment. Anyone happy as you google the answers?
Everyone desperately working out , treadmills, pumping and Pilates , all to loneliness, holding on to what is only fleeting and will eventually pass.
Have never seen more young women alone in packs at restaurants. 10 at a table. Without an attorney, no man dare approach.
Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.
Im already very ready to die now, to die off and make room for these liars, these thieves of spirit and truth trying to inherit the planet.
Perhaps I know nothing and Im an idiot? I don't know, and it doesn't matter.
Look around friends, 2022, going to be very hard.
I totally understand this. I chose to not make any attempt to spend time with my few relatives that will have anything to do with me for my own mental health this year. My son was invited to my house, I will enjoy seeing him if he comes although he is a very angry young man. I understand why he is angry. He see's this world from the perspective of a young white male in the US, one that didn't get totally indoctrinated.
I'm not interested in faking anything, in keeping my mouth shut, in listening to the programming. I am not angry, no bitter feelings, just don't want to do it. I am pretty sure they are very relieved so they can go back to the all vaccinated group and it is way less messy without me. This process is seeming to evolve organically for me. If I ran into someone I could have a genuine conversation with that might change, but I will have to run into them when walking the dogs as I am not looking for anyone.
I have no yearning for company, I have people on this forum I understand and maybe a few get me. I have my dogs and a place to sleep. I am very grateful for that. I have a connection with the natural world and the creator.
Merkaba360
23rd November 2021, 11:44
Maybe I can say a few words that are similar to what Doug is feelng here.
The more we expand our awareness here and shine brighter, the degree of darkness, delusion, ignorance selfishness, etc. becomes greatly enhanced. Average people are ignoring A LOT, because its much easier.
I feel the same struggle to not want to be around any of it anymore and im younger than Doug. On bad days, you want to just go around smacking everybody, like the movie Ground hogs Day. lol I think of it as a ferries wheel. Up and downs of life round and round we go, first it is very exciting, then eventually it wears off. By the end we are yelling for the damn guy to stop the wheel and let us off, but no he wont do that. Like that scariest 8 hr haunted house in california, there are no quit words. lol
You must keep going until you work thru the suffering somehow and quit internally instead of the game quitting on you. Everyone will eventually get to this point in this life or the next. You can't talk to others who aren't at the puking stage yet, cuz they will just tell you to be happy, life is great bla bla. It doesn't work like that for people at the end of the road, desperate to get off.
I doubt its even possible to go thru such transition end stages without immense frustration at times. This leads to urges to want to take that out on the others who are acting crappy and doing the most to keep us all in this 'escape room.' I've decided its not a prison, but escape room seems pretty accurate. Free will to enter the game, but good luck getting out of the labyrinth with everyone and their security brothers trying to keep us in. :)
Im stuck too wasting many of my good years living an unexciting life that I want and also alone. Its almost impossible for me to give up all my desires even though i have a lot less than others. To have a romantic partner who is like us on this forum has been like finding a unicorn for me. I dont even want to think of how I will feel if I finally find her when im like 70 and sexual drive is probably pretty much dead.
The only solution is for me to get more serious in my training. Meditation and other health regimans to perfect my energy. This leads to astral travel, so at least then I get a 2nd life to make up for what i cant experience here. I met a young disabled kid once that couldnt do much other than play video games. I now kinda regret telling him that there is another way. This life can be part-time and more bearable if we find a way to become active in the astral realm.
So, I feel Doug's pain and am tired of having only wonderful like minded virtual friends so far away. I just can't understand why the universe won't allow me to have a group of these people that I can call up and meet up on a thursday evening or whatever. Is isolation some kind of test for me now? I just wish i knew if there was some specific thing i need to accomplish in order to change things or have a more interesting life. I certainly can't find any like minds to team up with and make something happen. Or else some psychic who could tell me when some big change will happen. It might make it easier to bear all the unbearable people in this world and the annoying media and political/business worlds.
Sorry, I have no answers :)
Sunny-side-up
23rd November 2021, 11:51
:grouphug: I understand what you are saying Doug. A sensitive aware person cannot ignore what is happening around the world. rgray222 is right, even though you can't see the good people of this world, we are here, feel your pain, and care. That's important to remember:heart:.
Yes thepainterdoug I hear/fell what you are saying but not all are lost in the ways you mentioned.
It really shows up to me while driving around South West LONDON, most drivers are out for themselves and just seem to wan't to get past you at all costs.
I need to get out and away from London, it has been ramping up so much over the last 10 years
But having said that, I still come across some lovely. considerate people out there, they exist :)
Alan
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Sunny-side-up
23rd November 2021, 11:55
Maybe this "P.A. group therapy session" helps, key is living in brutal self-honesty and find others who can mirror that doug:
So let me start:
I (really) do not "hate" people. Adults, that is, but:
01. I do despise most adult people.
02. I look down at most adult people (I wish I didn't).
03. I distance myself from most adult people (which is not "fun" to do).
04. I totally feel disconnected with most adult people.
05. I can not relate to most adult people.
06. I find most adult people repulsive.
07. I see that the stupidity of most adult people seems endless.
08. I chose to avoid most (stupid) adult people.
09. I try not to judge (assumed) stupid adult people, but it is very hard when they are wilful ignorant by choice and judge me for not doing what they are doing.
10. I sense super fast misleading/deceptive collectivism (group think) of all kinds in most adult people repeating the status quo narratives which is worse than most horror movies!
11. and I can go on and on and on and on .... up to 100 describing most "adult people".
Because I know I am always more than my physical body (like everybody else is) and am always more than all my thoughts past, present & future combined! ... Am totally aware we all are "spiritually tested" in what we do ... how we do it ... and above all: if I am able to let go of anything that does not belong to my own "spiritual journey".
This awareness is very confrontational to me ... knowing exactly how things work and why ... and even then, I still can do things I rather did not ... So the wiser & more honest you become does not guarantee that it makes you "more happy" ... As real happiness does not require "approval" from anyone even not from yourself ... it is just a state of mind that is genuine appreciation of little things most take for granted!
Am also aware that part of them act dumb, "play along" but are actually on my level not wanting to stand out, or to get noticed! ... Those people could be called "cowards" or being in a (temporary?) state of fear losing jobs to provide for their family!
But this psychological mechanism is exactly why tyranny can do what they do and (mostly) get away with it if we let them!
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cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
November 23, 2021
Love ya John, here have some :sun:
Pam
23rd November 2021, 11:57
I think a good reason why people lie so much is because one of our humans greatest weaknesses is to admit when we are wrong. They will lie and manipulate just to not confront that short bad feeling after admitting or realizing that we/they were wrong.
It is a enormous factor in our lives mixed with fear and especially nowadays the people in charge of the world exploit it to achieve their goals.
We tend to run away from problems or bury them instead of facing them till they catch up on us. We start doing it in childhood, then we eventually learn it only backfires. Some learn but some don't. This is, I believe, why many adults act the way they do. We must remind the people that it is okay to be wrong. And we must not get lost in all this, because there is so many, many of them.
Anyways, don't feel down my friend. Last couple of weeks have been especially hard. It is part of the game plan. There is still some space left in the balloon to push air into before it explodes. There must be good people out there, waiting for the right moment to strike. The world is waking up on a scale like never before in known human history, or at least known history. So we have to be strong and do our part.
Stay positive my friend. For the children!
Why is that so hard? It is so refreshing to me when I admit I am wrong. It lowers the ridiculous imaginary line that somehow I am going to go through this life and not be wrong... Seeing when we do wrong or fall short and acknowledging it is a huge freedom. I even notice people are very uncomfortable when I have admitted I was wrong to them. Where did we get the idea that we must pretend we are never wrong? That we can't be duped? Why is being wrong so painful?
Sunny-side-up
23rd November 2021, 12:07
“Love is the absence of fear ... as evil is the absence of love.”
LoveHate-Metaphysics-Explained (http://tinyurl.com/LoveHate-Metaphysics-Explained)
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Sorry all, I've made two reply's to this OP but had to bump this one.
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Pam
23rd November 2021, 12:28
Maybe I can say a few words that are similar to what Doug is feelng here.
The more we expand our awareness here and shine brighter, the degree of darkness, delusion, ignorance selfishness, etc. becomes greatly enhanced. Average people are ignoring A LOT, because its much easier.
I feel the same struggle to not want to be around any of it anymore and im younger than Doug. On bad days, you want to just go around smacking everybody, like the movie Ground hogs Day. lol I think of it as a ferries wheel. Up and downs of life round and round we go, first it is very exciting, then eventually it wears off. By the end we are yelling for the damn guy to stop the wheel and let us off, but no he wont do that. Like that scariest 8 hr haunted house in california, there are no quit words. lol
You must keep going until you work thru the suffering somehow and quit internally instead of the game quitting on you. Everyone will eventually get to this point in this life or the next. You can't talk to others who aren't at the puking stage yet, cuz they will just tell you to be happy, life is great bla bla. It doesn't work like that for people at the end of the road, desperate to get off.
I doubt its even possible to go thru such transition end stages without immense frustration at times. This leads to urges to want to take that out on the others who are acting crappy and doing the most to keep us all in this 'escape room.' I've decided its not a prison, but escape room seems pretty accurate. Free will to enter the game, but good luck getting out of the labyrinth with everyone and their security brothers trying to keep us in. :)
Im stuck too wasting many of my good years living an unexciting life that I want and also alone. Its almost impossible for me to give up all my desires even though i have a lot less than others. To have a romantic partner who is like us on this forum has been like finding a unicorn for me. I dont even want to think of how I will feel if I finally find her when im like 70 and sexual drive is probably pretty much dead.
The only solution is for me to get more serious in my training. Meditation and other health regimans to perfect my energy. This leads to astral travel, so at least then I get a 2nd life to make up for what i cant experience here. I met a young disabled kid once that couldnt do much other than play video games. I now kinda regret telling him that there is another way. This life can be part-time and more bearable if we find a way to become active in the astral realm.
So, I feel Doug's pain and am tired of having only wonderful like minded virtual friends so far away. I just can't understand why the universe won't allow me to have a group of these people that I can call up and meet up on a thursday evening or whatever. Is isolation some kind of test for me now? I just wish i knew if there was some specific thing i need to accomplish in order to change things or have a more interesting life. I certainly can't find any like minds to team up with and make something happen. Or else some psychic who could tell me when some big change will happen. It might make it easier to bear all the unbearable people in this world and the annoying media and political/business worlds.
Sorry, I have no answers :)
Thank you so much for your post, dear Merkaba. I really needed to hear what you have to say. I would dearly love to sit around a camp fire with all of you, looking at the stars together. I so wish I could astral travel, just don't seem to be able to make that happen. I have just started entering my dreams on occasion, but they are not great places to be when I do...oh well.
happyuk
23rd November 2021, 13:13
I hate people. Adults to be specific. I have come to a point of my life where I have observed enough. People are cunning , strategic and dishonest at best, and ruthless and evil at their worst . And it's all getting worse.
Adults are liars and manipulative, in order to get what they want. Anyone surprised?
I love children. And help yourself perverts to what I will say, as you are in the category I mention above.
Children like animals are loving, expecting, forgiving , hopeful and beautifully innocent.
And baby animals, like baby children, are perfect. They are all looking towards us adults to protect , guide and save them. And god damn those who don't!
I resent I cannot admire the beauty of children in public . I resent beauty is now on trial . I resent Im being asked to lie about everything.
I am not racist. If I am , everyone is. Tribes have been around since day one we humans arrived, destroying each other for resources , food, water, fire, women and so on. Pure survival, so pure racism Not my plan.
So all people are tribal, meaning racist in todays manipulative and dishonest moment we live designed to divide and make money. Money the root of all ****ing evil for sure. .
I haven't had a hug from a women or a love relationship in close to 10 years. Yes, sorry Im a boring and predictable non sensational or newsworthy heterosexual .
I hate how sex identity has been made into such a dividing thing .Its as if its the only identity a person has? IM LGBTQRSTUVW, and I demand.... **** you, stop leading with you sex organs. No one ****ing cares!
It's a no win situation because everyone is “ actualized” . All brainwashed they need to win, be on top, don't yield rather than harmonize or compliment. Anyone happy as you google the answers?
Everyone desperately working out , treadmills, pumping and Pilates , all to loneliness, holding on to what is only fleeting and will eventually pass.
Have never seen more young women alone in packs at restaurants. 10 at a table. Without an attorney, no man dare approach.
Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.
Im already very ready to die now, to die off and make room for these liars, these thieves of spirit and truth trying to inherit the planet.
Perhaps I know nothing and Im an idiot? I don't know, and it doesn't matter.
Look around friends, 2022, going to be very hard.
Your comments resonate with me as well, albeit thankfully not 100% of the time :).
Kind of reminds me of this Daniel Day-Lewis clip (playing Daniel Plainview) @2:38
"I see the worst in people Henry".
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Stay strong feller.
heretogrow
23rd November 2021, 14:20
Dear Doug,
I thought about your post all night and went to be at 2am praying for you and for my daughter and myself, we share your pain. You and I are older and have some years under our belt so we have more tools in the toolbox to handle the pain, but that doesn’t always help. Sometimes when you have used all of your tools and nothing has helped, the best thing to do is reach into the bottom of the tools box, find that tiny key to the radiator and let off some steam. So glad you could do that with your Avalon family. It is good and needed otherwise you will lose your health.
I have been feeling so down lately, keeping it all in check for the rest of the world, and putting on a brave face. It is excruciating. I find myself looking around at people wondering who will be here in the near future and who will not. I feel like this is all surreal, if what I feel to be true that we are really being genocided, that this just can’t be, and it seems to be happening in slow motion. Last week, I could feel the pressure building but I was busy taking care of others and what I was holding internally came out at the most unexpected time.
I was at the dentist and he asked me about my kids while I was reclined in the chair. I remember having the thought, I cannot possibly tell you the heartbreaking things that have been going on regarding my kids and their lives right now. The next thing I know I was having a full blown anxiety attack. I lost total control of my body. I couldn’t breathe, trembled like I was having a seizure, could not speak a full sentence, and my throat made this gasping sound. All hell broke loose in the office.The dentist jumped back as if he had done something wrong. I looked and acted like a scared animal. I had completely lost it and was trying desperately to regain my composure but my bodily motions were involuntary. They gave me sugar water, and spoonfuls of syrup, and made me eat crackers thinking my glucose had tanked. His wife is a nurse and took my pulse and blood pressure. It was through the roof. My executive function was out to lunch, and I couldn’t answer simple questions. I nearly pulled a Biden meets the Pope but they got me to the bathroom in a nick of time. My body and mind just shut down. I took an ambulance ride to the hospital from hell. After waiting over four hours, things had returned to normal enough for me to realize I was not going to get any care there. When a young girl came in whose mom explained she had appendicitis and needed a surgery but was sent home because she had eaten, in which they stuck her in a corner and made her wait, I signed myself out. I could not stand to see her suffer. All the way home I prayed that she would be ok.
There is so much wrong with the world. My daughter is just now realizing that and she is showing signs of trying to make her way through with a smile on her face, much to her own detriment, like her mother. She is buckling under the pressure and is now medicated. The doc won’t adjust or change the medicine even though it has made her condition much worse. I have sought new care for her and we shall see how this works come December.
Your post has helped me to see that we must come up with ways to take care of ourselves. That starts with being honest with ourselves about what we see and what we are experiencing. This honesty is the only way to survive. We can’t fake it or lie to ourselves just to fit in. I plan on helping my daughter find the tools to live an authentic life, hopefully without medication. I want her to realize her full purpose and thrive. Letting off steam in constructive ways amongst safe, loving family is a start. Thank you for reminding me that we must be true to ourselves and take care of ourselves and support, guide and teach the ones we love the same.
Because of your post and my own self reflection I feel I see more clearly and am better equipped to handle the future.
Much love to you Doug. I wish you wellness and brighter days. It starts with being our authentic self, and not putting on a mask for the rest of the world, in spite of our own mental, spiritual and physical wellbeing. Because you were brave enough to share your frustrations, you have given me new hope and some new direction.
On the subject of children and their honesty and innocence, I once had a radiator blow the petcok while I was trying to bleed it with that little key. Smelly steam was blowing out in full force I guess because the water was stagnant and had been in there for years. A friend and his two year old came to the rescue. When his little one walked into the house he said, “Mells like tow sit, Dulie!” Sometimes we have to call it what it is. We hear at Avalon will help each other shovel the tow sit and my guess is we will learn and grow along the way.
So grateful for all of you,
Dulie
Tyy1907
23rd November 2021, 14:47
The older I get the more apparent the pattern becomes.
When I maintain connection to the divine life is easier. I want to connect with people more, I smile more. I face challenges differently. They're more of a course correction than a dilemma.
When I stop daily prayerful connection it starts to fade. It takes a bit but fade it does. Then something happens in my life that sucks. I reflect on how this could have happened. Then I realize I haven't been consciously asking for that partnership. Why do I do that? It's like a cycle that repeats. I'm playing with not only my own life but my loved ones as well. Complacency is the enemy. Not appreciating the spiritual dimension. Forces that seek to undermine us - both on a personal and global level. I read about these things daily and yet I make this mistake.
This can be an object lesson for everyone that reads this. Leaving things to chance has a cost. It waits for you to let your guard down. When things in your life seem to be taking off in a positive way you think "Ok finally. Now I don't need my training wheels." Well think again. You will be noticed and set upon. I say this through the lens that is my life.
"Maybe now he'll get the message."
There's too much at stake here Avalon. We can't do it on our own. Stop berating yourself, thinking you're unworthy or lesser than. This disempowers you as a creator.
This world needs love, but love intelligently directed. "Evil doesn't exist" mantras won't help. Positive thinking won't help. The answer's been here for us. Watching, waiting and dropping hints. Direct this love force where it needs to go and this world will change. I firmly believe this.
mokosh
23rd November 2021, 15:55
This world needs love, but love intelligently directed. "Evil doesn't exist" mantras won't help. Positive thinking won't help. The answer's been here for us. Watching, waiting and dropping hints. Direct this love force where it needs to go and this world will change. I firmly believe this.
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I have 3 dogs and a park nearby. During the day the park is filled with alcoholics and heroin junkies. Sometimes I sit with them for some little rest and talk to them. They all know me because i"m there every day. They also know I stopped drinking and using a long time ago.
When I sit with them they stop drinking and are just talking and tell their story. I think it is wonderful they stop drinking in that moment and feel very honered they do that.
I think that is love and compassion.
Feeling loved is not in the grand things.
Iloveyou
23rd November 2021, 16:05
It‘s their mind. They gave us their mind. Almost from the beginning. We are thinking their thoughts and think they are our own. Most of the time we are not aware of that, we entertain those thoughts, indulge in them . . . while in truth they are thinking through us. And our emotions will follow, until our heart is a tiny, hard, black knot.
How often have I thought: they want to kill 7 billion, who cares, **** it. Of course I‘ll be among them, anyway I‘m out of here. AI, robots without soul, who cares, what‘s the difference. Who cares about life. I despise humans, have nothing than contempt for them. They have hurt me and destroyed everything that was good. The same moment I knew beyond a doubt: these are not my thoughts! These are their thoughts. It‘s their mind and they try to use me.
The mind viruses, the parasites whatever you call it. They are very real. Every thought that‘s bringing me down, makes me hard and cold, is theirs, it‘s not mine.
Mine may be pain, my share of being human, your share of being human. Pain is hot, moving, burning and always changing. Hate, contempt, negation is icy, frozen, it‘s them. They are obviously not very fortunate in targeting and using you because your awareness and love for innocent beings, for life is strong, but they try. You express and voice and share their mind and so it is exposed, can come out of the dark.
You are not alone.
Tyy1907
23rd November 2021, 18:30
Story about kids
Was in Costco returning something the other day and there was a Mom with a 2 - 3 year old in her cart in line in front of me. I looked at the kid and he looked at me. He studied me, but with not one ounce of judgment. His adorable innocence made me smile under my mask and he knew it. He started playing Peekaboo with me - all on his own. The Mom looked on enjoying her child. It was like he was reminding me of something. In those moments I had no problems. Only joy.
Dennis Leahy
23rd November 2021, 19:43
Doug, you are an observer. Your life's work is taking your observations and distilling your vision of reality onto canvas. If you put yourself into a situation where you were surrounded by loving beings, your work would reflect that. But, recently you were moved to paint portraits of people on the cutting edge of exposing the truth - whistleblowers. The whistleblowers have exposed the hidden evil, and you have helped expose the world to them and their revelations. That viewpoint has to put you into a vortex of negativity, and you probably have to fight not to get dragged into it emotionally. Like a sanitation worker, you need to thoroughly "shower" occasionally, to at least temporarily remove yourself from the negativity. While you're in it, wallow in it, experience it totally - you need that for your inspiration (and probably growth, on your path, too.) But do give yourself needed breaks from experiencing it, to clear yourself, to cover your own canvas with white Gesso.
By the way, I know what you mean about being able to even acknowledge children in public, much less communicate with them. I was in a grocery store yesterday, and there was a dad with 2 kids, a toddler boy and a little girl probably about 5 (the most magical age.) She hilariously raised up her arms to block my pathway in the aisle, kinda the vibe of the Monty Python character saying, "None shall pass!" She looked me right in the eyes and smiled. It was hilarious, but her dad sorta whooshed her away without looking me in the eyes. As I went through the aisles, we'd meet up again and she would engage me with a playful, "What are you doing here? You were just over there!" kind of banter. Then, when I checked out, that family ended up behind me and the little girl kept up the banter, calmly and fearlessly dealing with a stranger. I wanted to return the playful banter, and did a bit, but was left uncomfortable by the father's vibe. It wasn't full-on vibe like he was accusing me of flirting with his child or something, but I did not get the vibe of having permission to really engage with her. Her dad never looked me in the eyes. I wanted to say something to him to compliment her precocious nature, her spontaneity, her fearlessness, her vibrancy, how my encounter with his little girl raised my spirit. But, I just said "Have a great evening!", directed to the whole family, because of the social stigma of adults interacting with children.
Hang in there, brother. You're not alone.
SpookyMulder
23rd November 2021, 21:38
Hey Doug,
I believe here at Avalon we all share the same pain, the same desires to be loved, to give love and live in peace and harmony. I trust Bill built this very place for this exact purpose because I believe that Bill knew, or had inside knowledge a while back (or maybe just the feel) that something was up and people like us needed to be able to gather without feeling ridiculized. We might all agree to disagree but at least we can manage that with respect and equality and we can still care for one another.
We all wanted to spend an afternoon in Utopia at some points in our lives wherever we are, and right now we are all being tested. It's hard, very hard to see what has happened in less than two years. Everything has been turned upside down for a specific purpose; we all know it and we felt it a while back.
I feel like a lot of us here don't have many friends, because honest friendship too seem to have become a rare commodity these days. One thing for sure is that we have to protect children at all costs, when we can but you already know that.
Things are hard for everyone, but as Dennis said you are never alone.
Keep the fire burning inside.
Mark
23rd November 2021, 22:03
I'm sure you know that saying that there is a thin line between love and hate, Doug.
I think that's true. Both are, apparently, the same energy, but twisted by circumstance.
The circumstance, generally, is our perception.
It is really easy for someone who loves deeply and in an empathic manner to have circumstances twist that love into hate, or intense dislike, because we are so easily moved emotionally, the switch-over can be almost sub-conscious and, before we know it, there we are wishing the worst on the human family. Right now, it is really easy to see us as f_cked up and not deserving of anything good, because of the way we have allowed ourselves to be used and twisted and turned in all of these ways. The programming at this point of our co-evolution, the end of not only an Age but a Great Age, is so intensely effective that unless you have a strong mind you are jacked up and thinking the thoughts we've all been subliminally and directly subjected to for most of our lives, i.e. that whole pedophile for loving kids thing, black/white thing, us/them thing.
I'll bet it's different, though, when you meet people in person, isn't it?
Because people are people and, while the programming is mega-intense for most of us, there is always a way to break through and break in to find the real person, if you are real enough with them. Listen to them, hear who they are and then query that as you share yourself, openly, honestly, forthrightly, with direct eye contact and an open heart.
I guess I am a romantic and a lover, at heart. I have met no one on any side of any issue that I can't find common cause with in some way, shape or form. Often, that has meant that I am more free flowing and open in my acceptance of difference, and I've been trained that way in a life on the move, always in new places, always meeting new people.
I hope we are not doomed and I hope we can continue to build bridges and common connection, one on one, or small groups to small groups. That is the only way it will be able to happen, because the system and its mores as they currently are, work overtly against intimate connection between individuals and groups. We have to beat the algorithm by going beneath it and above it to get inside of it and unravel it from the inside, one person at a time.
Bubu
23rd November 2021, 22:53
Some say be "born again" others say "be like a child". children don't care if the world is ****ed up or what. That adults are liars or.... They simply are too immerse in their child's play. So the world is chaotic, who cares , I'm too busy with my adult child's play. so excited in moving to my new home. Well this is after hating my life first, and of course hating the world. and before that loving it. That's life up down up down love hate love hate. Another point that I'd like to point out to everyone is that every life form is basically a balance ball of energy. positive negative; yin yang...If one does not do the act of love in a while (hugging, loving, sharing) he/she becomes an unbalance negative ball of energy.
Thanks for the post Doug. I love extraordinary post there is always something to learn from it. Tomorrow will be another day and could be "I love the adults". No big deal its just life experience. If one is in the negative side the best way to handle it is to be busy. The more you think about life the more you'll be depress. Most importantly do random acts of love. Give tips to the mechanic to the waitress help the old couple next door etc.
amor
24th November 2021, 02:52
Doug: I dearly love you and would send you my photo at five years old holding Puss, my sole companion as a lonely child. Then there is the photo of myself, the best one I have taken as an adult, I think, at one of those photo booths. In that dress, I had my last dance which I thoroughly enjoyed. He was a bit insulting to me, but I saucily dressed him down verbally and he apologized, realizing that I had enough self-respect not to let him get away with it. When it was time to depart, he kissed my right hand goodbye and we departed in separate directions. I remember that because I really enjoyed that dance. I had a great grandmother who was said to have given the most wonderful balls in her city. Her husband, a big bear of a man, would be danced off his feet. Mini was a petite and happy person who has communicated with me from the other side also.
You are a healthy, handsome man, whole of body and soul. It is very strange that I have been concluding also, that I cannot think of people in my life for whom I retain any great affection but a small hand full. I think I am afraid of people after some of my experiences. Therefore, I really do understand your feelings and wonder whether I, unintentionally communicated them to you. For instance, I feel very ashamed at some of my very volatile current political posts. As I was thinking this, a strong but quiet voice in my consciousness said, "Don't stop, we need you." Not long thereafter, I saw groups getting militarily prepared. Having come to the conclusion that there is no one out there politically that we can really trust nor should we, I have to agree that action is our only way out. However, I am a quiet soul but logical thinker. Love and kisses to you Doug. I am sure most of the ladies out there agree with me.
You are perfectly loveable and deserve any partner you wish. It is not easy to find your life mate, even in a huge city. The one and only dear friend who occasionally lets me know she is still around even though she passed away in 2010, once went to MatchMaker in New York City, a service for which she paid. Fortunately, she found her match on her own shortly thereafter. They had a nice home in New Jersey and a nice son.
I found on line a Chinese Astrological Match-making site which is based, not on birth date as in our Astrological Match-making, but actually is determined by year of birth not merely the month and day of birth. I believe this system has some merit to it because it was the Chinese midwives who kept careful family records in their villages and maintained close friendly relationships with the families they brought into the world. These records possibly enabled them to come to some conclusions about what birth dates got on best with other birth dates. The Chinese culture is thousands of years old with continuous history. I don't know the history of Western Astrology. Each month of their Chart is represented by an Animal. Certain Animals only get along romantically with other Animals, etc. The information I found on line showed the percentage of "getting along" for each combination. Now if you find a good Match Maker, he or she, will be given requirements of each partner which, when including Chinese Match Making information has a better chance of getting it right than randomly. While sexual attraction is important, the underlying, less visible aspects of being are what keep couples together. It sure beats "Russian Roulette." Also, people of our age know a thing or two about life and people and can make better choices.
thepainterdoug
24th November 2021, 03:47
Amor, thank you so much. HERETOGROW, " I nearly pulled a Biden meets the Pope" ?? THATS GREAT.
EVERYONE, I CANNOT MENTION YOU ALL. Each and everyone of you taking the time to answer my post, rant, whatever. Im dyslexic a slow reader so thats a problem enough reading all and responding.
DENNIS, there is nothing i love more than locking eyes with a kid as the parents drag them off and Im keeping the game going. they love it, yet our modern adult pervert evil world has ruined it, put barbed wire around a rose and said , no you cannot enjoy this beauty. this is what i mean .
i hate people because I truly love people! And Im damn frustrated and sorrowful for what we all have caved to here. For what we all have allowed to become our adult reality.
the Hollowywood film maker that blows the whistle in my other post, this explains it. How adults could choose to ruin children, no different than cruelty to animals. its sad tragic and angering!
Mark, when I meet people in person, im the most wide eyed, loving smiling friend you could meet.
I have a simple rule, I love everyone until they give me good reason not to.
ill try to read more. love to all
Delight
24th November 2021, 05:29
I do not hate people but I do not feel comfortable with people. For the most part I interact well superficially and do not have conflicts. However, I hate it when people are unfair. In my neighborhood which is semi rural and backs up to a park (not directly to my couple of acres), for all the years I have lived here, it just gets more and more "closed in". A few years ago houses started going up where it had just been woods. Slowly and surely it closes in. I dislike that so much and yet I love my house.
I have one neighbor who is mean and a bully. I walk my dog on what was once a trail and then reverted back to the owners (so the city need not maintain it). He baits deer to his back yard so he can shoot them from his porch. He yells at his grandchildren and wife. When he found out he owns half the strip that was once the trail, he started mowing it (last spring) and put up no trespassing signs a few weeks ago. I saw him and asked if he meant me and he said Yes. he gave some sort of excuse about "If you were to be injured, you could sue me". Mind you he only owns HALF the strip. I said that to him and also shared how frustrating it is that the ability to walk freely has eroded over the years. He finally agreed that I could walk Megan before 4PM (as his deer come after that).
I figured out from another neighbor that he has blamed ME for his blueberries disappearing (NEVER touched them) when actually it is probably his DEER eating the berries. In general he is just irritating, BUT TODAY he got on my last nerve.
He confronted me that his wife had seen us walking at 3:30 on Sunday. He said that since the time change, that is going to scare his deer. Also, he said his grandsons and he are hunting all the coming week and not to walk at all.
I cannot recall how the conversation led to the confrontation but the words " I have talked to many people about you" (implying people think bad things about me WHEN NO, there could NOT be any) was the last straw and I screamed at him. The FORCE of my rage came fully out.
I said "I don't give a !@#$ that your deer might be scared." He said "You can't walk that way anymore then and the (other owner) doesn't want you to walk on his property either." I know that other owner has never even come to the property in years and is holding it to sell to a water developer someday.
I screamed "You make me so angry" and repeated it LOUDER. I said I won't stop walking on the trail. He said "I'll call the sheriff" and I said "Go AHEAD then". "I repeated, "I am SOOO FURIOUS" and he said "Get over it!" (meaning It was on me only). I walked with Megan to the field beyond the trail and the whole way ACTIVELY refused to let myself curse him (which means sending a vibe out that I wish harm). I was so tempted but I know my intention is to NEVER curse anyone so I tried to turn it over to the power that raises me up... I realized I should not have said HE MADE ME mad... because we only make ourselves mad. I did hooponopono on it. I was still mad.
When I returned past his house, he came over to me and apologized. I wasn't having it and got real with him... telling him I don't believe he would suddenly have a change of heart so did not trust his apology. I asked WHY would you suddenly change? I told him I see him as mean and a bully who has been unfair to me for years about walking the dog(s) (as one passed away a few months ago). HE kept apologizing. It was surreal. He actually asked if we could turn over a new page. He was courting my forgiveness. He asked if we could hug. He promised NEVER to speak to me the same way.
I cried. We hugged. I started to melt my anger. I apologized for screaming at him. He asked if we could hug AGAIN. He promised that he wants to be a loving brother in Christ. WOW, this was so bizarre.
We parted in peace. I never lowered my self to unload blame at him for his deer baiting as I was tempted to do. I did NOT curse him as I was tempted to do. Something happened that was different for some reason after I did hooponopono.
This is not exactly on target but I have been really tempted all along to hate him. BUT I would always stop myself and use my skills to control my own low frequency. Hate is a terrible low emotion. I am not sure anger is good but I do get really angry sometimes and today I BLASTED this guy.
I cried for an hour. It let off some deep anger about how I feel constrained by a world that I just do not like. BUT if MY world is just me pushed out as Neville said, I guess I am healing it a little somehow by REFUSING hate and curses shown by this weird interaction?
thepainterdoug
24th November 2021, 08:03
Delight. thats quite a story. Im happy it got resolved like that. It got resolved by you being real and at the moment of your rage, hating him for lack of a better term. Thats what gave the honest re action to his action.
He obviously was needing it.
joe1964
24th November 2021, 10:55
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Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.
.[/QUOTE]
No you are not. I am just a newbie on this forum and I came across your post by chance. I am in a new country with my husband. A country where I do not speak the language, do not understand the culture and where I reached out to other expatriates over and over again, and I got rejected every single time. I have become a virtual prisoner in the place where I am supposed to enjoy my retirement. I started hating people, until I read your post and the replies. There are good and decent people in the world, and after seeing the incredible kindness of the people on this forum, I now have hope again. So you see you are not meaningless, your post was responsible for the change in me today. May Almighty GOD bless you.
Vangelo
24th November 2021, 22:46
Thank you.
I wish to thank all of you for sharing your soul's with the Avalon community and our visitors. This is one of the most beautiful posts I have read hear on Avalon. The truth, courage, and vulnerability you have all demonstrated give insight into what it is to be human. We are more alike than different. I am grateful to be in your company. Please accept this hug:bearhug: from me to all of you who have contributed and/or have been touched by any of these replies (that includes visitors too).
thepainterdoug
24th November 2021, 23:31
JOE 1964, the lord works in mysterious ways! Thank you so much for that. Thats why I just try to remain true to myself, acceptabe or not, with agreement or not.
By just being real, we give others an honest barometer in wich to evaluate themselves. were all in this together anyhow.
Vangelo, thats an amazing summation of this interchange. you spoke for us all I believe.
blessings all
Mari
25th November 2021, 18:54
JOE 1964, the lord works in mysterious ways! Thank you so much for that. Thats why I just try to remain true to myself, acceptabe or not, with agreement or not.
By just being real, we give others an honest barometer in wich to evaluate themselves. were all in this together anyhow.
Vangelo, thats an amazing summation of this interchange. you spoke for us all I believe.
blessings all
Doug, by expressing your true self - fears, vulnerability, 'flaws' as you term them, you are giving a priceless gift to humanity: you are allowing us, in turn, to be our authentic 'flawed' (no such thing, really) selves. We all wear our masks, but by dropping them, our humanity shines through and we can drop the falseness which makes up our daily life, and allow others to do the same. A Humungous Hug from me 😊
Denise/Dizi
25th November 2021, 21:17
I live with the mindset that I will listen to the misery of those who wish to live in that state, but I do not give them real estate in my mind or life, as much as possible... I know who I am, know that I am a happy and loving person, and truly when I encounter those who are miserable and share it as if it is some "Gift", I try to get away from them as quickly as possible.
Many seem to be finding themselves repulsed by others these days, their actions, lack of ability to reason, or even educate themselves before trying to shove down your throat their beliefs, etc... And I find it sad...
But there is one thing we do have control over. The amount of energy we give to these people. We don't lift them up, they LIKE being who they are, believing they know it all, and they are wiser about anything and everything. We can strip them of the positive energy they seem to steal from us. We can stop giving them free real estate in our minds... and pulling us into that same condition. Which can happen quite easily... Especially those who usually cannot get a rise out of you, as they tend to wrench up the shock factor of their negative behaviors in order to get some kind of reaction out of you.
Today is Thanksgiving. I am going to my sons, where his wife's family as well as my husbands will all be gathering. Currently I am having issues with one of these negative energy thieves. I will smile, and act like I do not recognize that they're miserable, and allow them to make fools of themselves, and do my very best to not let their negative behaviors affect my wonderful and loving day. Because THAT is within my control.
Violet3
26th November 2021, 01:25
Hi Painter Doug and everyone, and thanks for all the great observations.
I have been feeling really down and alone too, more than ever feeling like a stranger in a strange land. Out camping a few days ago, the camp hosts arranged a get-together at 5pm for a communal fireside chat and drinks. I went over to join in and the conversation quickly turned to condemning people who have not been "doing the right thing" (getting vaxxed) and discussing scenarios such as where a hospital has to decide IF or when to treat someone who is injured but not vaxxed. Ok, these people have previously been interacting with me like a fellow human being, but actually I am not. Yeah I hate adults too sometimes, their stupidity and herd behaviour. Actually I am less angry than profoundly sad. Perhaps this is the price for facing reality.
Mark (Star Mariner)
26th November 2021, 16:08
Ok, these people have previously been interacting with me like a fellow human being, but actually I am not. Yeah I hate adults too sometimes, their stupidity and herd behaviour. Actually I am less angry than profoundly sad. Perhaps this is the price for facing reality.
Try not to judge them too harshly. Often I have to remind myself of this too. I try to remember that these people are not bad people. They do not speak from their heart, only their heads. When their heads are filled with misinformation (or disinformation), they proceed from a place of ignorance. Yes, it is sad that many are beginning to lose touch with the heart-centred self, by making sweeping judgements and dehumanizing others. But I trust that in time they will rediscover it as the awakening process continues to spread.
Gracy
26th November 2021, 22:27
A bit of a gear shift here. But from personal experience, I can vouch for everything this guest has to say in a short 14 minutes. If used properly, psychedelics can truly aid one in experiencing life, the universe, and their proper place in it through a whole new lens.
Not a recommendation, just food for thought:
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thepainterdoug
27th November 2021, 00:59
THANKS GRACIE! Perfect time to interject this. i will watch.
I watched. I was wondering if you posted this because you were suggesting this as a remedy for me?
I did experience the best quality lsd in my early 20ies. about 20 times. then mushrooms and lastly salvia divinorum.
yes, all these reset your thinking and perception of reality. in fact, I feel I could use another visit.
But none of these experiences will change the human traffiking, the pedo, child slave reality, the violence and cruelty and control of our adult humans towards each other.
It will however, alter the way I react to it ,and im not sure the softening and blurring of my feelings on this need altering right now.
Gracy
27th November 2021, 03:25
THANKS GRACIE! Perfect time to interject this. i will watch.
I watched. I was wondering if you posted this because you were suggesting this as a remedy for me?
Like I said Doug, food for thought. Yes the idea was aimed at you my friend, because I feel your pain and desperation so deeply you'll never know.
As the first line of this great tune goes: "This one goes out to the one I love". :heart:
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thepainterdoug
27th November 2021, 03:40
Hey Gracie, well thanks . Thats really very sweet of you.
If you feel my pain its because you feel your pain on the very topic. We all do. All of us here who replied to my post feel what I said.
I feel fine with what I said. I said it and then I move on.
Desperation ? not so much. I dont feel desperation, maybe exhaustion, depletion disgust and disappointment .
Can I be happy and ignore all going on arond me, the times we are living? No dont think so.
I feel like a person rationalizing the situation in Germany 1939
thanks Gracie. I dont at all mean to minimize the message of love you sent me, and I may re visit the lady Salvia
Tyy1907
27th November 2021, 04:24
I went through stage years ago when I read everything I could find by Native American Shamans and one of them ("Rolling Thunder Speaks") mentioned that thoughts are real things. That stuck out to me and rings true still. That same book showed me how prayerful outreach to the Creator can do wonders. The Shamans were the Spiritual leaders of these peoples and one attribute they commonly had was intuitive ability. They lived in two worlds. The spirit and the material. I couldn't get enough of this reading material and now I see why.
So what role does the Spirit world play in today's world? If we could all see in two worlds, what would we be seeing? When we see adults behaving badly, what is the spiritual component of that? The holy men with intuitive reach saw the root of things. Many times they'd see Spirit attachments on people's chakras. Causing all manner of problems for their victims. Pushing them sometimes to madness even. Or rash acts they would never do otherwise.
Until this largely unexplored realm is probed, we'll be chasing our tails and each other.
ExomatrixTV
27th November 2021, 04:50
Maybe there is a good reason most compassionate Souls are made to forget what they have experienced in past lives ... then when being send back here on Earth knowing so much does not feel right about so many things ... as if we are drawn (or made to go) to traumatic events paralyzing us again and again ... or finally do something completely different.
Imagine having to run away from confrontations so many times ... is the reason why we are here over and over ... until we face our true reason why we are here and that is not to be afraid anymore ... this is how I see it ... we all are being tested how we cope and how we face our inner & outer demons.
Am totally fed up with the cowardliness of most sheeple (on all levels) unable to face tyranny but at the same time I truly feel (like any other good empath) WHY people do what they do ... easily forgive and know why people act in a certain way ... But there is also anger we let ourselves down .... The pain runs much deeper ... I also sense betrayal on a large scale on both sides (good guys and bad guys) ... How it eventually plays out depends in how unpredictable and surprising the resistance will be ... Something the Almighty A.I. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-) never see coming.
If I would asses the whole "humanity game template" ... it seems they study us what we really are all about ... it must be: "the battle of consent" ... to manipulate Souls in such a way to give up free will & free choice for "safety" & "security" ... If any of us can go beyond the "human game parameters" it must be letting go of fear and never giving consent ... as most will know it will only lead to more and more automated tyranny! >>> where we all get "micro-managed" and policed by fellow slaves.
There must be a way that is totally overlooked by the "overlords" the elite parasites.
The controllers ... the psychopathic liars feeding upon "victim mentality" ... The human condition is connected to a chain-reactions of events leading up to losing everything unless some of us can break this spell ... break the conditioning ... I feel we have something special they fear the most ... this will come to surface soon enough.
It is super obvious how most perceive reality now is totally hijacked by control freaks hoping we have no clue what is really going on ... And if you do ... they assume you will be called names & get demonized by default >>> where the slaves attack other slaves and visa versa.
To me it is not about seeking the classical way of unity but rather appreciate different autonomous tactics exposing the rising tyranny in all its forms.
This new kind of unity against tyranny will be so much bigger but I think most can not see it yet ... most will not be aware how huge the resistance to tyranny really is ... it is so much bigger than anyone in mainstream will admit.
There will be a day that a new kind of unity against the rising tyranny is known to all.
I can feel that energy right now ... That is why I never ever give up ... There is this connection with my personal destiny like a feedback time-loop. I receive the sorrow & pain of the future but I must guard not to absorb too much of it as there are many other time-lines reserved to go beyond all that ... So why do so many suffer in this time-line? ... What is the real reason we are here?
There are some basic wisdoms & insights how to transform (or break) this victim paradigm loop! ...and the weird part is that most already know what these insights are.
https://images.chesscomfiles.com/uploads/v1/user/27474914.f5b631e7.160x160o.f6c78faaf102.png
cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
November 28th, 2021
New Declaration of Independence (https://pgovsd.agency/new-declaration-of-independence/)
Gemma13
27th November 2021, 05:53
ExomatrixTV: How it eventually will play out depends in how unpredictable we are ... Something the All Mighty A.I. never see coming.
[...]
This new kind of unity against tyranny will be so much bigger but I think most can not see it yet ... most will not be aware how huge the resistance to tyranny really is ... it is so much bigger than anyone in mainstream will admit.
There will be a day that a new kind of unity against the rising tyranny is known to all.I can feel that energy right now ... That is why I never ever give up...
Awesome post John. My thoughts exactly.
Mark (Star Mariner)
27th November 2021, 13:32
I feel I could use another visit.
Look to Spirit Doug, not drugs. These may temporarily lift you, but they'll scramble your energy and make the struggle more difficult in the longer term. Drugs do not alleviate mental disharmony. In this world they are a leading cause of it, and will only make things worse.
lizhekb
27th November 2021, 14:46
love or hate, what is the difference? Did one generate from the other.
thepainterdoug
27th November 2021, 15:23
star mariner. yes thanks. im in spirit all day every day. i have conversations with god, guardian angels, my deceased parents and so on.
hate and love, all these emotions are real and true. there is nothing to fix here with this, only expressed, not resisted.
to pretend i dont hate is similar to saying i do love, when i really dont. we have an entire woke culture that lead with love, but sure feels like hate to me.
being spiritual, doent mean you dont feel these human emotions. its just a matter of if you want to be honest about them
Vangelo
27th November 2021, 16:14
... we have an entire woke culture that lead with love, but sure feels like hate to me. ... being spiritual, doent mean you dont feel these human emotions. its just a matter of if you want to be honest about them
Isn't that the unfortunate truth. The amazing thing is they are so unaware...
I believe you nailed it. This concept is at the heart of the problem. Specifically, the belief that some emotions are 'good' and others are 'bad'. The desire to only live within the 'good' emotions is both naive and self-defeating.
I don't believe some emotions are good and others are bad. I believe a full and meaningful life is one where we are able to embrace all human emotions and live consciously within them.
I see each emotion as existing only when it is paired with its equal and opposite emotion. Happy and sad are the easiest emotions to think of in this way. You can't have happy without sad nor can you have sad without happy. They define each other. I literally visualize happy and sad as existing within a spectrum where pure happiness is at one end of the spectrum and the depths of sadness exist on the other end of the spectrum. At each and every moment of the day I am at a specific spot along that happy/sad spectrum. As the day progresses and I begin to feel happier for some reason, I move along that spectrum closer to the happy extreme. If on the other hand things go poorly I will often feel more sad and move closer toward the sad end of the spectrum.
This idea of emotions existing only when paired with its equal and opposite emotion means I can only define how I feel regarding an emotion when I contrast it against its opposite. I need both to understand and value each.
The other critical concept is that human beings have emotions because they server a very real and valuable purpose. I have just described one purpose in the preceding paragraphs but there is another more important purpose for each emotion. That is our emotions tell us something about our place in the world and motivate us to act. Fear for instance, is thought of as a 'bad' emotion. I totally disagree. It is the emotion that tells me to be more cautious, alert and resolute. This is what keeps me alive. Anger often motivates me to confront and take action against something. Anger gives me the strength to fight back rather than cower.
I believe we need each and every emotion. Learning to embrace them all will give us a more complete and fulfilling life with more meaningful relationships.
ExomatrixTV
27th November 2021, 16:31
love or hate, what is the difference? Did one generate from the other.
“Love is the absence of fear ... as evil is the absence of love.”
LoveHate-Metaphysics-Explained (http://tinyurl.com/LoveHate-Metaphysics-Explained)
Hate consumes own spiritual energy (burns eventually itself out) ... also a sign of total incompetence to go beyond it ... not knowing how to transform it >>> that is self-hate as well ... some forms of hate & anger is/are actually (ignoring) extreme sadness & sorrow!
cheers,
John
Vicus
27th November 2021, 16:37
love or hate, what is the difference? Did one generate from the other.
I never buy that hate is the opposite to love ...
you see, when you hate someone or something it is because you have a relate to someone or something...
you desire/want/need/wish/demand/expect something from it...
you hate your ex, boss, job ,media, government, politicians, people, whatever because don't fulfill your expectations and /or your needs...you have an attach to they/it.
How about this: the opposite from love is...wait for it..............INDIFFERENCE !!!
not matter what they /it do, say, proclaim, declare, actions, forbid or approve matter to you !
they/it are invisible to you, they/ it can drop death in front of you , and you are like ...uh? so what!
I wear a trench coat where all bullsh!t don't permeate...
I draw my red line and that's it!
I know, it is a hard training to it ! but than you are Buda like...
I never buy "turn the other chick"," embrace your enemy ", "all is love and flower power plus syrup, honey and milk..."
not in this world, maybe somewhere else...
I learned the hard way, like everyone else...
ExomatrixTV
27th November 2021, 17:14
I wonder how many Project Avalon Forum threads focuses on the subject "hate & hating" without sliding in to predictable clichés & platitudes ... so it is about time we finally did this :dog: thanks to @thepainterdoug (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?21016-thepainterdoug) :bowing:
... as most may shy away of this topic for so many reasons ...
cheers,
John
thepainterdoug
27th November 2021, 17:30
Again I thank you all for your varying input and take on all this.so many great comments and observations i understand my post may be touchy to some, but we are always being beaten over the head with Namaste, peace, love and be like this or that.
But truth is something else , and what I am interested in. what I said in my post doesnt mean I walk around actualizing my hate towards others. its quite the opposite, Im known by most as the nicest kindest guy in the world, no joke and no bravado here.
I drive around with a battery charger and give people jump starts, change tires and help people out in every situation I can. I offer, dont need to be asked.
Meanwhile the yoga mat crowd wont even give eye contact or a hello as they admire their own selves armed with the mat. Its all posturing and virtue signaling in my book. they are rude and believe they are above others. They are also scared. Grow up a holes.
My hockey friends are more my speed becuase they are consistently real, even though they make constant fun of me.
John K, thanks for the comment and your posts as well.
I hope my hate speech is seen as the most loving speech i have made here
VICUS/ indefference, so true!
pd
Tyy1907
27th November 2021, 19:11
I hate people. Adults to be specific. I have come to a point of my life where I have observed enough. People are cunning , strategic and dishonest at best, and ruthless and evil at their worst . And it's all getting worse.
Adults are liars and manipulative, in order to get what they want. Anyone surprised?
I love children. And help yourself perverts to what I will say, as you are in the category I mention above.
Children like animals are loving, expecting, forgiving , hopeful and beautifully innocent.
And baby animals, like baby children, are perfect. They are all looking towards us adults to protect , guide and save them. And god damn those who don't!
I resent I cannot admire the beauty of children in public . I resent beauty is now on trial . I resent Im being asked to lie about everything.
I am not racist. If I am , everyone is. Tribes have been around since day one we humans arrived, destroying each other for resources , food, water, fire, women and so on. Pure survival, so pure racism. Its not my plan.
So all people are tribal, meaning "racist" in todays manipulative and dishonest moment we live designed to divide and make money. Money the root of all ****ing evil for sure. .
I haven't had a hug from a women or a love relationship in close to 10 years. Yes, sorry Im a boring and predictable non sensational or newsworthy heterosexual .
I hate how sex identity has been made into such a dividing thing . Its as if its the only identity a person has! IM LGBTQRSTUVW, and I demand etc. F*** you, stop leading with you sex organs. No one ****ing cares!
It's a no win situation because everyone is “ actualized” . All brainwashed, they need to win, be on top, don't yield rather than harmonize or compliment. Anyone happy as they google their answers?
Everyone desperately working out , treadmills, pumping and Pilates , all to loneliness, holding on to what is only fleeting and will eventually pass.
I Have never seen more young women alone in packs at restaurants, 10 at a table. Without an attorney, no man dare approach.
Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.
Im already very ready to die now, to die off and make room for these liars, these thieves of spirit and truth trying to inherit the planet.
Perhaps I know nothing and Im an idiot? I don't know, and it doesn't matter.
Look around friends, 2022, going to be very hard.
There are good people out there Doug, they need to be shown the way. Your post speaks to the level of corruption rampant in our world when left largely unchecked.
I heard something the other day that compared our world to a vacuum. How a bit of love in a vacuum is not enough. It'll get overrun quickly. This is exactly why we need higher realm help and we need it soon. They can leverage our outreach greatly if we but ask. Secularism only contributes to this vacuum we're in. This isn't religious doctrine I'm getting into, but reality.
The divine is our life line and with their help - requested by us - we can win. Call me naive if you want.
Your "reality sandwich" post here speaks to this urgency, for some. For others it speaks to those who have given up already.
All we can do is the best we know how. There's no judgment in the light.
I see 11:11 and 1:11 daily, all the time. I don't look for it ever. Someone has to be relaying this information and in this setting it's falling to me. Course we're all puzzle pieces here just like Dougs post attempting to shake the complacency out of us. And the many other TRULY awake members' posts in this thread.
Merkaba360
27th November 2021, 19:35
From reading this last page, I thought of some Castaneda/Don Juan. There are stalkers and talkers. The stalkers prefer quick action and have a kind of detachment to not give a damn what others think, which gives them freedom to act freely (Actors and athletes may tend to fit this doing style). I've noticed that those leaning toward the psychopathic spectrum have this trait.
Its the talkers who are more patient and empathic ( Like Don Juan, patiently explaining to Carlos with much dialogue). Those leaning toward that side of the spectrum are the ones who struggle most with feeling disgust toward others or what not. I guess they are struggling to deal with others energies since its those corrupt annoying energies we have to feel. Even if its impersonal, we can empathically feel the vibe thru the news and be affected greatly.
I recall Don Juan even admitting to Carlos that he Carlos's behavior made him sick to his stomach. As if, that was part of his karma, to train the annoying carlos to help him get over his repulsion for such behaviors of ignorant people.
So, I suspect Doug leans toward the empathic pole :)
thepainterdoug
28th November 2021, 08:28
Tyy 1907 / for me its 222 and 22. I see 222 so often, I dont look for it, its crazy. And you 11.11 and 111 and multiples of this. And we are heading into 2022.
in fact I was writing a new song and while reviewing the first verse of it, looked at the note counter and there were 222 notes in it. can't plan that.
Merkaba, yes this speaks to me. And tonight i just returned from a dinner where a friend of mine , Paul, argued this point as to why i remain friends with a person Jon, he hates from sorted events in the past.
I reasoned the same, Jon is my karma, a job or chore I need to do.
truthseek
28th November 2021, 13:49
I hate people. Adults to be specific. I have come to a point of my life where I have observed enough. People are cunning , strategic and dishonest at best, and ruthless and evil at their worst . And it's all getting worse.
Adults are liars and manipulative, in order to get what they want. Anyone surprised?
I love children. And help yourself perverts to what I will say, as you are in the category I mention above.
Children like animals are loving, expecting, forgiving , hopeful and beautifully innocent.
And baby animals, like baby children, are perfect. They are all looking towards us adults to protect , guide and save them. And god damn those who don't!
I resent I cannot admire the beauty of children in public . I resent beauty is now on trial . I resent Im being asked to lie about everything.
I am not racist. If I am , everyone is. Tribes have been around since day one we humans arrived, destroying each other for resources , food, water, fire, women and so on. Pure survival, so pure racism. Its not my plan.
So all people are tribal, meaning "racist" in todays manipulative and dishonest moment we live designed to divide and make money. Money the root of all ****ing evil for sure. .
I haven't had a hug from a women or a love relationship in close to 10 years. Yes, sorry Im a boring and predictable non sensational or newsworthy heterosexual .
I hate how sex identity has been made into such a dividing thing . Its as if its the only identity a person has! IM LGBTQRSTUVW, and I demand etc. F*** you, stop leading with you sex organs. No one ****ing cares!
It's a no win situation because everyone is “ actualized” . All brainwashed, they need to win, be on top, don't yield rather than harmonize or compliment. Anyone happy as they google their answers?
Everyone desperately working out , treadmills, pumping and Pilates , all to loneliness, holding on to what is only fleeting and will eventually pass.
I Have never seen more young women alone in packs at restaurants, 10 at a table. Without an attorney, no man dare approach.
Im just a little person, A meaningless person, yet I know my words resonate with many.
Im already very ready to die now, to die off and make room for these liars, these thieves of spirit and truth trying to inherit the planet.
Perhaps I know nothing and Im an idiot? I don't know, and it doesn't matter.
Look around friends, 2022, going to be very hard.
There are good people out there Doug, they need to be shown the way. Your post speaks to the level of corruption rampant in our world when left largely unchecked.
I heard something the other day that compared our world to a vacuum. How a bit of love in a vacuum is not enough. It'll get overrun quickly. This is exactly why we need higher realm help and we need it soon. They can leverage our outreach greatly if we but ask. Secularism only contributes to this vacuum we're in. This isn't religious doctrine I'm getting into, but reality.
The divine is our life line and with their help - requested by us - we can win. Call me naive if you want.
Your "reality sandwich" post here speaks to this urgency, for some. For others it speaks to those who have given up already.
All we can do is the best we know how. There's no judgment in the light.
I see 11:11 and 1:11 daily, all the time. I don't look for it ever. Someone has to be relaying this information and in this setting it's falling to me. Course we're all puzzle pieces here just like Dougs post attempting to shake the complacency out of us. And the many other TRULY awake members' posts in this thread.
I'm right there with you Tyy1907. There is that higher realm and it's energizing us. We are part of it. We chose to be here at this time. (and for those who are open to it, we are starting to connect) It's true, the majority is fast asleep and looking to be led, but it is up to us who are wide awake to help spread the light energy and manifest a better world.
Btw, I also get reminded of the numbers 11 on a daily basis.:sun:
Vicus
29th November 2021, 12:58
For me is : 55 or 555 from long time ago until today...
Some weird moments ( maybe for me only ...)
A) In the first Matrix movie... at the beginning... numbers run wild on the screen and stop by 555...
And I... what? WTF ?
B)First movie from "Lord of the rings" Frodo wake up in Rivendale and Gandalf say out of nowhere : it is 10 hours
AM on October 24... (my Birthday), I was born at 20 Hs PM, but somewhere I rod the soul come to the body few hours before birth ...
this one can I checked with all of you... if you heard the same date or not, if positive for you than it is just coincidence, or maybe you heard your own birthday...
What Gandalf say has no meaning in context with all 3 movies, where there are no dates at all, just : it is the 3th Era
of Middle earth...
check yourself , maybe I must just adjust my day dreaming... :confused:
Mark (Star Mariner)
29th November 2021, 13:15
What Gandalf say has no meaning in context with all 3 movies, where there are no dates at all, just : it is the 3th Era
of Middle earth...
check yourself , maybe I must just adjust my day dreaming... :confused:
The Lord of the Rings are a series of books first, and in the books dates for certain events are provided, so this date has meaning. Frodo left the Shire on September 23rd, and he was assailed by Black Riders at the Ford of Bruinen on October 20th. So Gandalf's line, that "it is October 24th", is meant to illustrate that Frodo has been bedridden for 4 days. I suspect they used the line in the movie as a tip of the cap to the fans (like me) who would know these details.
Frankie Pancakes
29th November 2021, 13:54
..........
Merkaba360
29th November 2021, 17:43
..........
That is the thing though. It has evaded me to find that many people in my surroundings who gets it. It seems that I need the "petty tyrants" to beat the ego out of me and overcome self-importance.
I prefer to find a handful of people who get it and keep them close. I feel this would make it easier to accept those who don't. I remember a long time ago when i was madly in love. My god, i was beaming. At that time I only needed to be surrounded by her and I every time some crap happened, I would think......not a big deal, I get to go home to her in a few hours.
The real challenge is to achieve that with nobody outside yourself. So, how much of these insane people all around are our tests and keys to pounding down our own egos. lol
I guess its balance. Completely surrounded by ignoramuses will likely drag you down?
bobme
29th November 2021, 20:35
I am lucky enough to have people around me who so called get the crap that is going down now.
Painter, the majority of people, adults, anyway, are very parinoid about all they see from the Main streem media, and the belief of that info they get from that info, they cannot fathom anything otherwise. It is not their fault in as much as some may believe.
I have found that the majority of people are driven by that which is presumed true, by the popular opinion,rather than facts, that ultimately form their direction of thought, and decision. Hope I am somehow making sense to you.
So, for me anyway, I cannot hate them, when I know thry are being fed a spoonful of crap, every second of their minutes of wakening in the a.m. of their everyday life.
thepainterdoug
29th November 2021, 21:07
I can choose to hate or dislike or even like different people. However I do not judge them. Thats a different animal all together
Tyy1907
30th November 2021, 04:32
Tyy 1907 / for me its 222 and 22. I see 222 so often, I dont look for it, its crazy. And you 11.11 and 111 and multiples of this. And we are heading into 2022.
in fact I was writing a new song and while reviewing the first verse of it, looked at the note counter and there were 222 notes in it. can't plan that.
Merkaba, yes this speaks to me. And tonight i just returned from a dinner where a friend of mine , Paul, argued this point as to why i remain friends with a person Jon, he hates from sorted events in the past.
I reasoned the same, Jon is my karma, a job or chore I need to do.
Looks like 2022 is being emphasized to you greatly. You're being included in my prayers.
lizhekb
6th December 2021, 04:59
love or hate, what is the difference? Did one generate from the other.
I never buy that hate is the opposite to love ...
you see, when you hate someone or something it is because you have a relate to someone or something...
you desire/want/need/wish/demand/expect something from it...
you hate your ex, boss, job ,media, government, politicians, people, whatever because don't fulfill your expectations and /or your needs...you have an attach to they/it.
How about this: the opposite from love is...wait for it..............INDIFFERENCE !!!
not matter what they /it do, say, proclaim, declare, actions, forbid or approve matter to you !
they/it are invisible to you, they/ it can drop death in front of you , and you are like ...uh? so what!
I wear a trench coat where all bullsh!t don't permeate...
I draw my red line and that's it!
I know, it is a hard training to it ! but than you are Buda like...
I never buy "turn the other chick"," embrace your enemy ", "all is love and flower power plus syrup, honey and milk..."
not in this world, maybe somewhere else...
I learned the hard way, like everyone else...
are we still learning? If yes, let’s keep it that way.
lizhekb
6th December 2021, 05:19
love or hate, what is the difference? Did one generate from the other.
“Love is the absence of fear ... as evil is the absence of love.”
LoveHate-Metaphysics-Explained (http://tinyurl.com/LoveHate-Metaphysics-Explained)
Hate consumes own spiritual energy (burns eventually itself out) ... also a sign of total incompetence to go beyond it ... not knowing how to transform it >>> that is self-hate as well ... some forms of hate & anger is/are actually (ignoring) extreme sadness & sorrow!
cheers,
John
It seems to me that fear and evil are still having a party here. So is Love.
If one day they are really gone, love is gone too.
Vangelo
6th December 2021, 12:00
...
It seems to me that fear and evil are still having a party here. So is Love.
If one day they are really gone, love is gone too.
This is something I have thought alot about within the context of the emotional spectrum I described here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116917-I-hate-people.-Adults-that-is.&p=1465682&viewfull=1#post1465682)and would like to share my thoughts within that context.
I agree for instance, that the emotions love and fear exist as opposites on the same emotional spectrum. From the previous post... "I see each emotion as existing only when it is paired with its equal and opposite emotion. Happy and sad are the easiest emotions to think of in this way. You can't have happy without sad nor can you have sad without happy. They define each other. I literally visualize happy and sad as existing within a spectrum where pure happiness is at one end of the spectrum and the depths of sadness exist on the other end of the spectrum. At each and every moment of the day I am at a specific spot along that happy/sad spectrum. ..."
If one of the emotions are gone, that means I am at the extreme of the other. And when I am at the extreme I have no means to measure the depth and degree of it. In other words, when I am in pure blissful happiness and am at the ultimate extreme, I am in ecstasy, only because I remember sadness. As time passes, and I stay at the extreme of happiness, I forget about sadness and eventually it truly disappears from my life experience. At that point, all that exists is happiness. Since all that exists is happiness, it is my norm. As my 'normal' there is nothing to tell me its impact on my life experience because it no longer exists at the extreme of an emotional spectrum. Instead, it is in the exact center with nothing at either ends of a spectrum of nothing. At this point it is no longer happiness as previously defined because it no longer has sadness from which to measure its impact.
All of this is simply to say that I believe we either embrace all of our emotions or we have none. The desire to only live life with the 'good ones' will eventually lead to a hollow life of discontent.
Tyy1907
6th December 2021, 13:31
Tyy 1907 / for me its 222 and 22. I see 222 so often, I dont look for it, its crazy. And you 11.11 and 111 and multiples of this. And we are heading into 2022.
in fact I was writing a new song and while reviewing the first verse of it, looked at the note counter and there were 222 notes in it. can't plan that.
Merkaba, yes this speaks to me. And tonight i just returned from a dinner where a friend of mine , Paul, argued this point as to why i remain friends with a person Jon, he hates from sorted events in the past.
I reasoned the same, Jon is my karma, a job or chore I need to do.
Looks like 2022 is being emphasized to you greatly. You're being included in my prayers.
I should clarify this wasn't meant to cause fear at all, but encouragement! You do a real service for everyone around you Doug :)
ExomatrixTV
6th December 2021, 15:03
Time for a: "Constructive Anger Management Media Network" ;)
iota
9th December 2021, 05:20
Iota/ many thanks. Im sorry to hear that. You have also put your truth out to all of us in your recent post. Many thanks again, and to everyone here, we are all fractals of each other and we can all relate to each others experiences.
An old Werner Erhardt saying, resistance causes persistence. Sometime we just need to let all go and stop lying to ourselves. Theres the person I want to, or wish to be, and then the real me for better or worse.
none of us as children planned on coming to such a conclusion years later . by speaking something, you make it real , it's how you shed a skin and grow. by telling the truth . it's not so bad
thank you all
Erhardt, huh? are you a graduate? if so? then you might be familiar with another premise of his i have personally found to be true:
there are 3 major causes of upsets:
undelivered communication
unfulfilled expectations
thwarted intentions
Doug, thank you for always caring .. don't worry ... i'm ok ... except when i'm not ...
i pretty much accept my feelings just as feelings to be acknowleged
also, i understand (even if it is much later AFTER the fact) my responses to the events i'm experiencing are only indicators of where i am at in THAT moment .. and then i let them go .... sigh ...
like you said .. "it's how we grow"
:flower:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsXcPF2WoAAdyQG.jpg
i wasn't going to share anymore, but the holidays are still upon us and maybe someone might find something useful in some of the conclusions i've drawn from life ... here are some of them:
feelings ARE NOT an accurate measure of reality
i don't hold the perspective of victim for myself
i've been through tremendous tragedy and challenges and each scar is my badge that says:
"i went on that journey, that quest ... and came out on the other side "
mostly, thankfully ... in one piece and better for the experience
it has connected me both to great compassion and inner strength i never imagined nor could have connected to otherwise
mine began at birth .. and gave me LOTS of practice in the "Swim in the mud" pools, throughout my life ... and my response? i have raised a glass and toasted more times that i can actually remember to say:
"Thank you! you contributed tremendously to who i AM today!"
(btw .. this is actually true .. and there are plenty i bought the shots for that can corraborate)
and about my ex? ... i wasn't suffering ... in the 30 yrs? it wasn't me begging for attention, and consider that another holding a different perspective? might have been flattered if in need of that experience or something
he loved me ... he adored me ... i did him as well ...we were soulmates ... i was just complete with or without him ... and to this day? i don't think he achieved that. ... but how can i hate or despise him or be angry for that?
he wanted what he wanted and went about trying to get it the best way he knew how ... don't we ALL do that?
it was just his very bad luck that at some point i evolved beyond those methods and went on to be interested in other things and other challenges .. it didn't make him bad, it didn't make me bad
it did make me pretty hard to manipulate and that i owe in part to all the practice he so generously provided me (grin) ... that is all ..
so i don't hate or despise nor look down on the people that journey besides me just because they have their own roads to travel or at different speeds ...
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eqEbwfBpcVY/ULsH-5TtajI/AAAAAAAAPec/bh3opMUj_fQ/s640/Do+not+get+upset+about+someone+else's+path+everyone+has+their+own+path+many+crawling+others+are+walk ing+while+some+are+flying.jpg
i understand that:
ALL of us have different objectives for our incarnations
NONE of us escapes heartache, or suffering or pain
ALL of us are CONTINUOUSLY tested and that the number one person watching? observing? grading?
is the one that stares back in the mirror daily.
how the heck can i gauge or judge what another is going through? or determine for THEM what is best for them?
i'm NOT them! they are NOT me.
they came here to be THEM ... i came here to be ME ...
48061
so far? so good on both points!! and ALL of it? was to measure OUR response to what we encountered.
it was never about THEM in the first place
what we learned? was about ourselves ...
yes .. ALL the observations about another? didn't "teach" us a darned thing about THEM
but it sure did teach us who WE are ... as opposed to who we THOUGHT we were or who we would like to actually BE ...
i'm pretty sure THAT was the point of the whole experience ...
one last conclusion i've drawn? people resist not the ideas we share BUT that WE do NOT accept others for being as they are ... that through words or vibes or expressions on our face or tone of voice or something
we are communicating .. > "you are SO wrong!" ... and maybe that we think they are idiots ...
the other version is a HUGE attachment to convince ... which again communicates"
"MY WAY is better than yours"
in either case the reason they don't listen and actually NEVER even hear the point we made?
the MAKE WRONG about THEM was way too loud so they couldn't hear anything else beyond that
and there IS a catch ... we CANNOT accept ourselves AS we are
when we CANNOT accept others AS they are
for some reason? i find the two are intertwined ... or that Source just has a warped sense of humor ... which i have always maintained to be a DISTINCT possibility ...
in the end? here's what i think ...
https://gnosticwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Quote-on-saviors.jpg
lizhekb
30th December 2021, 16:52
Thanks for sharing this.
I really believe the true “happiness / peace” is from “within / heart. “
When we truly embrace all the emotions, then there may not be any difference.
It is interesting to think about what we really have.
SoulValor
30th December 2021, 20:14
I so wish I could astral travel, just don't seem to be able to make that happen. I have just started entering my dreams on occasion, but they are not great places to be when I do...oh well.
What has helped me with achieving OBEs/astral travel regularly is ORMUS and Orgonite. Ever looked into these, Pam?
Btw, it's always a good idea to (energetically) protect yourself before going off on such rides (or attempting to). Projecting symbols of protection for instance, surrounding you. :) That will make one more relaxed and less apphrehensive too. :sun: Of course one could also say prayers, use protective incense,gemstones,pendants etc... there's plenty of options. :)
Bubu
31st December 2021, 12:26
we CANNOT accept ourselves AS we are
[B]when we CANNOT accept others AS they are
Just another version of "live and let live" both so very accurate. People who's hard / unforgiving to others also are hard and unforgiving to self. I also observe this to myself. We all move in a spectrum, bad and good spectrum included. No person is good or bad all the time. each is striving to be good to be loving because loving bring about a desirable experience. Despite being aware none seems to be constantly on the loving side of the spectrum all the time. That's one gem of coming to Avalon. Lots of people who have a good level of awareness and the ability to express them beautifully such that their words serves as a reminder to others. And for this beautiful reminder I thank you. " live and let live" love yourself love others.
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