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Bill Ryan
3rd December 2021, 22:48
This is so important, I'm now convinced it deserves its own thread.

There are three levels of introduction. Here's a short (rather flowery, but worthwhile) summary 13 minute piece that was nicely edited from a recent interview with Dr Robert Malone. It's already been posted several times, deservedly so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INHpQL9fgto
The source interview for that, twice as long (25 mins), is here:

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=619daea08153a665791f3fb6
(https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=619daea08153a665791f3fb6)
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But the pièce de résistance is Chris Martenson's new interview with the man himself, Mattias Desmet.

This presentation (69 mins) is a critically important work of what I think might qualify as near-genius. It explains all the human behavior we've been seeing — everywhere. I cannot recommend this too highly.

It's the kind of detailed thesis that (if one had time!) one might want to pause the video frequently and take good notes. It's here on YouTube right now, but is also on Odysee here (https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/mattias-desmet-on-our-grave-situation:6) if YT removes it. Again, I stress: this is really, really good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRo-ieBEw-8

Delight
3rd December 2021, 23:36
This is so important, I'm now convinced it deserves its own thread.

There are three levels of introduction. Here's a short (rather flowery, but worthwhile) summary 13 minute piece that was nicely edited from a recent interview with Dr Robert Malone. It's already been posted several times, deservedly so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INHpQL9fgto
The source interview for that, twice as long (25 mins), is here:

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=619daea08153a665791f3fb6
(https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=619daea08153a665791f3fb6)
619daea08153a665791f3fb6

But the pièce de résistance is Chris Martenson's new interview with the man himself, Mattias Desmet.

This presentation (69 mins) is a critically important work of what I think might qualify as near-genius. It explains all the human behavior we've been seeing — everywhere. I cannot recommend this too highly.

It's the kind of detailed thesis that (if one had time!) one might want to pause the video frequently and take good notes. It's here on YouTube right now, but is also on Odysee here (https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/mattias-desmet-on-our-grave-situation:6) if YT removes it. Again, I stress: this is really, really good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRo-ieBEw-8

"What is at risk? EVERYTHING"

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Delight
4th December 2021, 02:13
I think this goes here.

"They say jump .....and I say how high....are these people?"... Brett Weinstein


Do WHAT to save Christmas?!
Nov 30, 2021
Dan Astin-Gregory

The mad dash to roll out boosters begins under the guise of saving Christmas following the JCVI approval of boosters in all over 18 years and above age groups.

Meanwhile the not-so-Independent SAGE group accuse the JCVI of being 'anti-vax' for stalling on the approval of vaccines amongst children.

Tune in to find out how to prepare yourself for the latest wave of propoganda!


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DNA
4th December 2021, 10:27
This is really good. I cry quite often how I can't help anyone. Friends and relatives, work buddies, all of them get the jab. All of them willingly seek and receive the death shot. People offering their beautiful children, these innocent babies.
I feel so alone
I try, I do, but people just get triggered at any information contrary to their beliefs.

Matthew
4th December 2021, 12:23
This is really good. I cry quite often how I can't help anyone. Friends and relatives, work buddies, all of them get the jab. All of them willingly seek and receive the death shot. People offering their beautiful children, these innocent babies.
I feel so alone
I try, I do, but people just get triggered at any information contrary to their beliefs.

The next time I spoke to anyone they were all double jabbed saying have you had your jabs yet have you had your jabs yet ... It broke my heart but I managed to get through to one or two. A pathetic effort but only by my unrealistic expectations; humble victories to be cherished, this **** is hard. I feel your pain, I look at some of my friends and family and can just chose to enjoy what we have, and the balance of trying our best to sew seeds of doubt :heart: :beer:

Tintin
6th December 2021, 14:46
Library update

Just a heads-up here, for those of you interested.

There's been a devoted directory to Mattias Desmet since the end of September this year.

You'll find the MUST LISTEN Chris Martenson conversation in there along with a similar presentation he made on the Jerm Warfare podcast back in September.

Directory here: Prof_Mattias_Desmet_+_Mass_Psychosis (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Coronavirus_%28Wuhan_2019-nCov%29/Prof_Mattias_Desmet_%2B_Mass_Psychosis)

Due to the enormous volume of near continual updates being made on a routine basis it isn't always possible to provide 'on-the-spot' reports when uploads are made.

It's always worth having a quick search in the library just in case material is already there :)

DNA
6th December 2021, 15:07
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John Carpenter knew what he was doing making this a six minute fight scene, he knew it was an awesome metaphor for how hard it is to get people to see the truth. I dare say it's even harder than this.

Czarek
11th December 2021, 23:28
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Ewan
12th December 2021, 09:51
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Very good. What many might think is a juxtaposition at first glance turns out to be a very direct comparison.

Pam
12th December 2021, 19:37
This is so important, I'm now convinced it deserves its own thread.

There are three levels of introduction. Here's a short (rather flowery, but worthwhile) summary 13 minute piece that was nicely edited from a recent interview with Dr Robert Malone. It's already been posted several times, deservedly so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INHpQL9fgto
The source interview for that, twice as long (25 mins), is here:

https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=619daea08153a665791f3fb6
(https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=619daea08153a665791f3fb6)
619daea08153a665791f3fb6

But the pièce de résistance is Chris Martenson's new interview with the man himself, Mattias Desmet.

This presentation (69 mins) is a critically important work of what I think might qualify as near-genius. It explains all the human behavior we've been seeing — everywhere. I cannot recommend this too highly.

It's the kind of detailed thesis that (if one had time!) one might want to pause the video frequently and take good notes. It's here on YouTube right now, but is also on Odysee here (https://odysee.com/@Chris_Martenson:2/mattias-desmet-on-our-grave-situation:6) if YT removes it. Again, I stress: this is really, really good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRo-ieBEw-8

"What is at risk? EVERYTHING"

1466743567121014792

mGFdWcJU7-0

I have been contemplating this really thought provoking interview Chris Marten has with Mattias Desmet. Mr Desmet states that about 30% are absolutely hypnotized by this propaganda. The hynotic event doesn't have to makes sense or add up logically but it does seem to need ritualistic elements and the concept of self sacrifices, like wearing a mask. This 30 percent are the ones that could be readily manipulated into all sorts of destructive behavior that would previously have been considered totally unacceptable under the guise of righteous indignation. Rationalization for committing atrocities for the greater good, although many genocidal movements could fit the bill here in some ways I see the the Christian Crusades as having some of the same energetic similarities as those that embrace the Dogma of Covidian Extremism which is a weird form of faith based extremism at it's worse. Zealots using CNN editorialized propaganda as support for their stance feeling this has as much validity as any valid scientific study, in fact they wouldn't probably know the difference. As I write this we are getting familiarized with the concepts of "quarantine" camps that are established for the common good and health primarily those that were willing to sacrifice for the common good and can get that dopamine rush that being righteously indignant can provide. I wonder how long it will take for the "quarantine" camps to take on a different purpose. I am guessing they will serve nicely to isolate the "domestic terrorists"(anyone of the 30% that aren't mass hypnotized and eventually most of the others as well. I doubt very many will pass the test of worthiness of survival into the new world order.

Next we have the 40% that see that something isn't adding up but are unwilling to rock the boat or make any waves. These are the folks that would prefer not to engage in any debate because they can see the fallacy of arguments that would support this. They may also have convinced themselves that they just don't get it and if they totally understood the whole thing would make more sense. I feel there are many times in my life where I have defaulted to this position, albeit under conditions not anywhere near as dire as this.

The rest which would seem to be about 30% are just not subject to the mass hypnosis and they are not going to excuse it or accept it.

Mr. Desmet states that one might get a totally hypnotized individual to lighten the stance somewhat, that it is possible with some of them. My take on this is that the the ones that will matter are the 40% who see some fallacy but can't or won't take any action or say anything. To be able to approach these people and get a change in willingness to take a stand could change the numbers of 30% to upwards of 70% that are not going to blindly follow and cooperate these insane would be rulers. I love the idea that Chris has in that approaching those 40% it might be better to do it by not addressing , for instance the mask agenda or the injection agenda but the implications of technocracy. The other implications that we can all agree are not desirable nor something we want in any way. Particularly if we have children or grandchildren.

This is a refreshing understanding and a workable and doable approach that anyone can do.

I have signed up for a neighborhood forum for practical reasons, such as sharing reputable companies and help in finding lost dogs ect. I have been kind of blown away how all roads always seems to lead a few to bringing up vaccination and relating it to political party affiliation and other needless unproductive dissension mongering based on political affiliation Some guy is spouting this ludicrous story line that has Trump supporters refusing to get vaccinated???? I ended having my email address takien off their list because it is a senseless source of mindless , nonsensical hate mongering.

Maybe popping in and approaching topics at a totally different level could assist those 40 % who see the nuttiness but are at a loss to do anything or say anything because they don't want to get attacted by radicalized Covidians or those that see political affiliation as the be all end all. Maybe finding a common ground that most could agree on and working from there is a possibility.

I really did appreciate the interview and the possibility of offering solutions.

Delight
17th December 2021, 02:32
How can lay people talk to family and friends?

Freedom Talks with Dr. Peter and Dr. Mark McDonald
December 16, 2021

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graciousb
18th December 2021, 03:28
This is really good. I cry quite often how I can't help anyone. Friends and relatives, work buddies, all of them get the jab. All of them willingly seek and receive the death shot. People offering their beautiful children, these innocent babies.
I feel so alone
I try, I do, but people just get triggered at any information contrary to their beliefs.

The profoundest upset and grief for me has been awakening to the consciousness (lack of) of my fellow humans. With the censorship and thus lack of a true unfettered ''town square'' where one can take the temperature, it feels like it's the majority who are under the spell, but who knows? Maybe it's not as many as it seems but for sure it's too many..but I guess we shouldn't be so surprised when we look at 20th century history, or the experiments where they easily got participants to seemingly torture their colleagues.

I guess many of us were in a fools' paradise previously, not aware of how weak and quisling so many of us are.

ExomatrixTV
18th December 2021, 17:02
Why People WILLINGLY Give Up Their Freedoms W/ Prof. Mattias Desmet

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What are the conditions in any society that will cause a people to willingly sacrifice their freedoms? Mattias Desmet has studied and lectured extensively on this phenomenon. He is a professor of clinical psychology at Ghent University has and holds a masters degree in statistics. After noticing some anomalies in the statistical analyses conducted during the pandemic, he became concerned by the consensus narrative. He joined me today to discuss his expertise in a phenomenon called ‘mass formation’, a type of collective hypnosis essential for the rise of totalitarian regimes. He provides the step by step formula for this collective psychosis to take hold and how this relates to our current situation. He cautions against the dangers of our current societal landscape and offers solutions both individually and collectively to prevent the willing sacrifice of our freedoms.

Time Stamps:


00:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=0s) Intro
1:22 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=82s)- Statistics not adding up
3:30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=210s)- Psychological Dynamics
9:50 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=590s)- Mass formation
17:45 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=1065s)- Something very specific can happen under these conditions
25:10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=1510s)- 19th century mass formation
31:55 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=1915s)- Mentacide
37:27 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=2247s)- Asch experiment
41:35 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=2495s)- Dangers of our current landscape
47:42 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=2862s)- You need mass media for mass formation
53:53 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=3233s)- A Third Way
58:49 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=3529s)- Mechanism of Totalitarianism
1:05:10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=3910s)- The importance of parallel structures
1:19:13 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A&t=4753s)- Consequences of speaking out?

Bill Ryan
9th January 2022, 21:31
This astonished me. :) I felt sure the mainstream would totally ignore this, or more likely wouldn't even know it was being discussed. (It seems a nerve has been touched...)

https://twitter.com/APFactCheck/status/1479886452641120261
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andyangel1205
9th January 2022, 21:43
There have to be doctors and pharmacists out there who are immune to the mass formation psychosis - and willing to phantom inject people in order to preserve human life. Let's hope enough of them are out there.

Vicus
9th January 2022, 21:45
This astonished me. :) I felt sure the mainstream would totally ignore this, or more likely wouldn't even know it was being discussed. (It seems a nerve has been touched...)

https://twitter.com/APFactCheck/status/1479886452641120261
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the end is nigh... for the Cabal :ninja:

Spiral
9th January 2022, 22:00
There have to be doctors and pharmacists out there who are immune to the mass formation psychosis - and willing to phantom inject people in order to preserve human life. Let's hope enough of them are out there.

There certainly are but they get kicked off social media damn fast.

In Germany in the 30's there was one profession that joined the nazi party at a rate beyond seen anywhere else, that profession was "Doctors".

Delight
9th January 2022, 22:21
IMO we are facing our deepest dark basement of culture's creation as hell. People in this covid nightmare make it an organizing principle. The covidiots are in a mind loop of justification of their pain. The inability to see others POV is narcissistic. I have said before that we live in a narcissist culture. Behind "mass formation" is IMO trauma. Prolonged trauma and grief is generational and DESIGNED. It creates what we call narcissism. Narcissist R Us is my slogan but we can get BETTER. BUT do people WANT to get better?

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Michel Leclerc
9th January 2022, 23:30
This astonished me. :) (...)

Dear Bill, it did not astonish me.

There are a few flaws in the “theory”.

Allow me to not go into details, but just reflect on this. We all know that there is a behaviour that is common to the "vaccine”-takers. This common behaviour is that they take the vaccines. They also all tend to think that the State wants their best. And a few other things.

This common behaviour (and/or way of thinking etc.) is then explained by the concept of "mass formation". So the fact that thousands of people seem to behave and think in the same way and that they hence appear to form a "mass" is explained by the act that they "form a mass" ("mass formation"). This is not even circular reasoning, it is a tautology.

Such tautological reasoning is typical of certain social sciences (as per Karl Popper’s critique of them) and "mass formation" is not an exception. Mattias Demet is a clinical psychologist (not a depth psychologist or psychoanalyst), and clinical psychology tends to attach little attention to the definition of its operational concepts (unlike psychoanalysis, be it Freudian, Jungian, Adlerian, Groddeckian, Reichian or Lacanian). (As an aside: he is also a statistician, and admirable for the connection he is making between statistics and psychology. Interestingly, his thinking was triggered by the statistical anomalies he was witnessing being rolled out.)

The very use of the term "mass" is strange. Isn’t the theory predicated on the observation that people, hypnotised by their TV screens, become steadily more isolated and hence lack meaningful social contacts – as Mattias Desmet quite rightly states, quoting research done? How do isolated individuals turn into a "mass"? When we see the demonstrators in the streets of Western society’s capitals, don’t they much more qualify as "forming a mass" – or, as Negri used to put it, a "multitude"? Where are all those "mass-formed" "masses" of "vaccinated" people, claiming the one truth they all seem to believe? There aren’t any such demonstrations, because there are no motivated "masses" of "jabbed persons". It is the "unjabbed" who create "masses", and not unconsciously, but intentionally.

(On an aside, the concept of "mass" was instrumentalised in Marxist theory – and based itself on what happened during the Paris Commune, or on spontaneous strikes of industrial workers in the exploitative stage of brutal capitalism. Those were genuine masses, created by common predicament and common intent – as are the masses demonstrating against the jabbing and its ideology.)

So the concept of "mass formation" – which Mattias Desmet is careful to distinguish from "mass psychosis", and for a reason – does not explain what is happening to the "vaccinees": they are not, and have not been formed into, a mass.

What does happen then? A psychoanalytical approach comes nearer to it – and dovetails well with the observations quoted by Mattias Desmet about isolation, dissatisfaction with work, loss of the sense of living a meaningful life etc.

The term "psychosis", which belongs to the psychoanalytical conceptual toolkit, describes quite well what the vaccinated experience, feel, think and display. To put it very simply, it is linked with the concept of repression.

This term in itself has a psychoanalytical definition, and the phenomenon it encapsulates is also known to many readers of this forum in a quite different context: it is the repression of the evil, the abuse, the torture done to them (not only repression from their consciousness but also from their emotional self) which creates the "MK Ultra" hyper soldiers (based on a weaponising of the traits that Wilhelm Reich described as characterising the "armoured personality").

Repression of "bad" emotions, recollections, thoughts, actions – leads to neurosis: the common lot of all of us. Repression of this repression leads to psychosis. Not only do we hide certain unwelcome facts about ourselves in the drawers of our personality cabinet – which makes us feel guilty for a reason – but additionally we throw the key into the canal. We feel horrible, but we do not know any more what is causing this feeling.

Psychoanalysts or psychoanalytically trained sociologists like Girard would point at (thought of, desire of) homicide as thé experience to be doubly repressed: the fact that occasionally in our lives we have hated another human so deeply that we were on the verge of killing him or her (or even did so). Whenever we are triggered again by another person who "reminds us of" what is in that cabinet drawer, we react viciously, by word or deed. We cannot stand the "repressure" any more and show our ugly side. This is what happens when vaccinated people react violently to the very existence of the non-jabbed person. (Videos abound.)

Why do they do so? Because they are themselves the victim of a triple repression. Not only have they wanted do eliminate the "ones not belonging" to their group, and repressed that desire, and even repressed the fact that they have gone so far as repressing it so as not to be reminded of the fact that they are capable of such desires, but they have also repressed their own feelings of guilt about it and as a result their own condemnation of themselves as potentials perpetrators of evil. What is thus repressed is the ultimate "anti-life" desire to kill: the killing not of the others who "do not belong" – but of themselves as guilty of harbouring such feelings. It is the suicidal desire: the deep, unretrievably deep, feeling of unworthiness.

People who allow themselves to be jabbed and others to jab them enact their subconscious desire to live up to their (in their own eyes) deserved death by dying through slowkill. Psychoanalysis has uncovered such feelings of unworthiness, undeservingness as capable of bringing about major illnesses by "somatising" (expressing through the body) these feelings; showing through the language of bodily decay.

The major processes of creating these millions of jabbed people are not "massive" (only the results could be called "massive"), they are individual and/or related to small groups, typically the family, a group of friends, a group of neighbours – the small groups in which people’s lives have always tended to play out and in which personalities are shaped, processed, changed and maintained. In today’s technological world this type of interaction occurs in its minimal form (a dyad of two actors) in the dyad formed by "me and my mobile", "me and my laptop" (what a strange word, is it not? clearly showing that a metal top (an armour) is supposed to hide and repress the living sexual organs under it) — but are we not gradually being persuaded that the ultimate social interaction will be between "me and my AI robot"? Let us be certain that this AI robot will be our eternal triple-repression coach and monitor.

When asked what we should do about this "mass formation", Mattias Desmet says: to stand firm and never to stop informing the others, diplomatically of course.

This is most certainly needed – to slowly unravel the cognitive dissonances people feel.

But what to do with their emotional dissonances? With the pain they are continuously in and want to repress, which consists in having to deal with people (the non-vaccinated) who implicitly uncover their self-loathing mechanisms, and with authorities who increasingly prove to be completely untrustworthy, unable to keep the promises the "vaccines" were supposed to deliver? With their own threefold inner repression of the truth knocking at the door of their Self?

I would guess that the only key is love. The integrating kind of love which sees the other person (our family member, our neighbour, our friend...) as a whole being and as absolutely deserving of that love, and of being loved by the other person themselves, and thereby inviting them not to harm themselves.

Not only softly, or at times with tough love as a good parent will do, unveiling to them the facts that break the spell of cognitive dissonance, but also breaking the emotional dissonance by making them feel how much we care about their wholeness and want them to join again the track that allows them to thrive.

How much we love them. That it breaks our heart to see them like this.

Vicus
10th January 2022, 00:09
My goodness... what you possible describe is non less that the risen of the zombie Apocalypse...

Gwin Ru
10th January 2022, 00:17
...

Related:


How to Drill-in Propaganda into any Public's Mind (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115557-How-to-Drill-in-Propaganda-into-any-Public-s-Mind)



especially the first video:

Cognitive Dissident
10th January 2022, 00:26
I think mass formation is a very important subject which people can use to understand what is going on. Even the Google search results have been manipulated to show the top results as debunking articles (search on Google and compare with Duck Duck Go search results, you will see for yourself). I often post this video, which features Desmet, Malone and McCullough discussing mass formation. It is a great summary and starting point to educate people on this very important issue https://rumble.com/vrxr3n-tpc-653-dr.-mattias-desmet-dr.-robert-malone-dr.-peter-mccullough-mass-form.html

andyangel1205
10th January 2022, 02:57
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Gwin Ru
10th January 2022, 15:06
....

.... in relation to hypnosis (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117022-Mass-hypnosis-or-Mass-formation-how-large-populations-become-extreme&p=1474384&viewfull=1#post1474384) and digging down in Avalon's own wayback machine, I found something that directly illustrates what actually drives individual and collective behaviour: deeply buried unconscious programming (hooks/triggers):


It seems we are in the middle of a full swing psy-op / social engineering experiment in cognitive dissonance:

Cognitive dissonance:
In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.[1][2]

Leon Festinger’s theory of cognitive dissonance focuses on how humans strive for internal consistency. When inconsistency (dissonance) is experienced, individuals tend to become psychologically uncomfortable and are motivated to attempt to reduce this dissonance, as well as actively avoiding situations and information which are likely to increase it.[1]

More there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Festinguer also co-authored a book titled “When prophecy fails (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails)”:

Festinger and his collaborators, Henry Riecken and Stanley Schachter, examined conditions under which disconfirmation of beliefs leads to increased conviction in such beliefs in the 1956 book When Prophecy Fails. The group studied a small apocalyptic cult led by Dorothy Martin (under the pseudonym Marian Keech in the book), a suburban housewife.[49][50] Martin claimed to have received messages from “the Guardians,” a group of superior beings from another planet. The messages puportedly said that a flood would destroy the world on December 21. The three psychologists and several more assistants joined the group. The team observed the group firsthand for months before and after the predicted apocalypse. Many of the group members quit their jobs and disposed of their possessions in preparation for the apocalypse. When doomsday came and went, Martin claimed that the world had been spared because of the “force of Good and light”[51] that the group members had spread throughout the world. Rather than abandoning their discredited beliefs, group members adhered to them even more strongly and began proselytizing with fervor.

Festinger and his co-authors concluded that the following conditions lead to increased conviction in beliefs following disconfirmation:
1. The belief must be held with deep conviction and be relevant to the believer’s actions or behavior.

2. The belief must have produced actions that are difficult to undo.

3. The belief must be sufficiently specific and concerned with the real world such that it can be clearly disconfirmed.

4. The disconfirmatory evidence must be recognized by the believer.

5. The believer must have social support from other believers.[52]
Festinger also later described the increased conviction and proselytizing by cult members after disconfirmation as a specific instantiation of cognitive dissonance (i.e., increased proselyting reduced dissonance by producing the knowledge that others also accepted their beliefs) and its application to understanding complex mass phenomena.[53]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Festinger]

Any resemblance to any contemporary group is absolutely non-fortuitous…



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The conundrum that everyone a bit more awake than their fellow can't help but run into... and how to avoid boxing with shadows as exemplified with this:


This is the kind of things you are running into:


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Hypnosis gives the key as to how implanters work out their implants and mind-control the future behaviour of their victims:


The only other time I have personally witnessed what I saw in my son was a time years ago when a friend of mine was hypnotized by her brother in front of me and her boyfriend. Her brother asked me what I would like him to have her do after he woke her up. I wanted to see if she would repeat something that she would considered silly under normal circumstances. I said, have her get up and flush the toilet every time you tug at your collar.

So he gave her the command, then woke her up. He tugged his collar, she got up, went into the bathroom and flushed the toilet, came back and sat down. He tugged his collar again, and she did it again. And again. After three or four times, I finally asked her why she kept getting up to flush the toilet.

First, she just said it needed flushing. She did it again. And again, I asked her why she kept flushing the toilet. Each time I asked her, she would make up some lame reason as to why she had to flush the toilet.

She got more and more annoyed at me for asking, but she did it again and again upon command and could never see that there was anything strange about it.

Her brother hypnotized her once more to release her of the command, but what an amazing thing to have witnessed.

This is what I saw in my son. He could not answer a simple question but only parrot the party line.
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When one gets an inkling that this kind of hypnotic implantation of behaviour and marching orders have been going on for eons on this planet (see this thread:MATRIX REVEALED -- Analysis & Solutions (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions)) one can get an idea of the size of the task.

As Simon Parkes (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.) put it in one of his interview, paraphrasing one of his ET friends he was disagreeing with about abductions: "They are not supposed to remember!"

Everyone has experienced it at any level: the coming out of teeth and nails to the defense of blatant cognitive dissonance or the obvious parroting of tenets of this or that religion, belief system or school of thoughts; never mind dis-infos or psyop propaganda.... since the "zapped" individuals have been zapped into believing there is nothing wrong with spurting out their cut out cookie-cutter piece every time someone tugs at his/her collar... see?

To me, the most disheartening observation ever made was this one reported by Jon Rappoport:


Jack True, by far the most brilliant hypnotherapist I’ve ever encountered, stopped doing that kind of work [hypnotherapy]. He told me, “I realized new patients walking through my door were already hypnotized, and my job was to wake them up.”The individuals sensitive to cognitive dissonance like a Raf Morgan give up after being submerged with waves after waves of new (and veteran) forum members still under the spell of "Nothing wrong with that!" Same for individuals sensitive to obvious programming whether religious, cultural, demonic or from "friendly" ETs, etc...

As far as solution go, the only one I found was to collect under one thread all the posts I made about a particular subject once I got fed up of repeating the same thing over and over... every time someone tugged their "comet" collar :)

I guess it's time for someone to write a book on "Zen and the Art of Forum Riding and Maintenance."
... and now for the dual keystone to all psyops, collective hypnosis, mass formation psychosis, social engineering, etc.:



It seems to me the "Q" phenomenon compounds a number of other phenomena on top of - or in support of - or providing a fertile ground for - the addiction one.

One, is the matter of "Cognitive Dissonance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance)" phenomenon as described by Leon Festinger in his "When Prophecy Fails (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Festinger#When_Prophecy_Fails)" and which applies to any thwarted hope and expectation.

Then, there is the psy-op mechanisms which are designed to trigger and engage deep unconscious "hooks" common to the collective "unconscious" of most humans of this planet as described by Jon Rappoport (here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81885-Psy-Ops-The-Orchestration-Of.&p=956960&viewfull=1#post956960)):

The disaster of manufactured consent in the Matrix (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81885-Psy-Ops-The-Orchestration-Of.&p=956960&viewfull=1#post956960)
by Jon Rappoport March 15, 2013
www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com/) [now defunct resurrected]

[...]

In the Matrix, there is pressure to have people connect their realities to each other. Why? Because groups can thus be created. Groups are easier to compromise than individuals.

We get the concept of hooked ideas. A hooked idea is one which will entice people to merge their realities into One. The hooked idea can be expressed as a slogan, a so-called meme, a principle. It is introduced by people who work psyops.

A psyop is a campaign to herd people into a place where their individual realities overlap.

For the propagandist, there is the eternal search for the good, better, and best hooking idea, the one that will collect the greatest possible number of people under one roof.

This has nothing to do with true progress or honest intent. It has everything to do with control.

[...]

This same retired propaganda operative, who goes by the pseudonym of Ellis Medavoy (I interview him 28 times in one section of my collection, THE MATRIX REVEALED (http://marketplace.mybigcommerce.com/the-matrix-revealed-vol-1-cd-by-jon-rappoport-mega-info/)), explained this “psyop calculation”:


“The target of a terrific psyop is yearning and longing. That’s what I looked for when I was working: what people long and yearn for. Something unformed and undefined but very powerful. That’s what I wanted to tap into.

“If I could tap into that, people would buy in and surrender a significant part of whatever their personal world looks like. Because they want to believe they’re coming together with like-minded others. They’ll also believe the path laid out for them is correct and proper and wonderful. This is really a fake religion we’re talking about.

“A fake religion. It’s really for children, and most people turn out to be children. Give them a group of high-minded ideas, and they’ll grab on and think everything they’ve done up to that moment is a prelude to THIS.

“We [operatives] are playing a symphony, you see, and once they listen to the prelude, they’re hooked. They stay. They long for the climax, which doesn’t exist; not the way they imagine it. To them it’s all about ‘arrival in the promised land,’ as if that’s some kind of gift that’s wrapped up under the tree, waiting to be opened.

“We give them a fake god, a dead-end god. If they were once burning with authentic faith, we derail that and take them to another place…” [...]

This has less and less to do with personal reality.

Manufactured consent in the Matrix is a bit of a misnomer. Manufactured consent IS the Matrix, at the most profound level.

[...]

A great deal of history of the human race, littered as it is with suffering and pain and war and hunger, was produced by competing psyops.

Each side was utterly convinced that its ideals were superior. What neither side realized was that everybody, on all sides, was accepting a psyop substitute of their own personal reality. That was the big switch.

[...]

You could accurately write, on many gravestones: “I died for a psyop.”

[...]

Freedom? Democracy? The will of the people? A better future for all? Equality? Justice? These are merely concepts in search of ways to run psyops.

Jon Rappoport

[emphases mine]
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Then, somewhere, I wrote this:

Quite a test... someone must have found a way of triggering a real deep, collective unconscious programming to get it so widespread...When put together with how psy-ops are manufactured (above) and one may realize there is no need to "infiltrate" because the recruiting happens right on the spot wherever one gets "hooked" via those deep, deep longings and yearnings finally running into some potentially, materially realizable manifestations.

The two most powerful unconscious emotional juggernauts one can tap into with hooks are fear and hope.... even more powerful when the two are combined: the fear of hell and the promise of paradise... the hope of no more wars but the constantly maintained fear of nuclear conflicts... and Q, either accidentally or intentionally is playing the combination of both: the hope of a better world via the eradication of fear (the deep state/enslavers).

So, no need to send infiltrators on missions as members of alt-media communities... the infiltration is already inherent within the human emotional make up and the emotional grand divide occurs within families, never mind communities or nations.
Then, there is the "Gaming" hook: The resolving of a mystery which, in older times, prevented readers to put down a book before reaching "The End." Conan Doyle and Agatha Christie made fortunes with those...
... If you've read the above, then it should be very clear what the "magicians/hypnotists" behind the curtain are currently doing:


FEAR!... you'll all gonna die! (punishment)
HOPE!... with the great reset: you'll all own nothing and be very happy! (reward)

... the dual keystone for ultimate control...

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Related:


The operation called “engineered consensus” (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81885-Psy-Ops-The-Orchestration-Of.&p=956961&viewfull=1#post956961)

Michel Leclerc
10th January 2022, 21:13
My goodness... what you possible describe is non less that the risen of the zombie Apocalypse...

¡Querido Vicus!

Well, as I try to avoid the cinematic impregnation of my mind and soul (“I know already how to dream, thank you”), I am not so familiar with the "Zombie Apocalypse" theme, or meme. But yes, Google did bombard me with "upheaving" images of oddly disfigured extras climbing the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem...

They are meant to instill fear, aren’t they? Imaginary fear, that is. Imagined fear through fear-inducing images.

But that is not what the thousands of jabbed people we, the recalcitrants, encounter instill the "unjabbed" with. These "zombie" masses are not how the "jabbed" look like. It might be the other way around, the "zombie" metaphor might be what our anthropocidal "leaders" want to "inscribe" us with as defining what the "unjabbed" are. Not wanting to be jabbed would then be a danger far exceeding the danger of the virus, or of the adverse effects of the genetic experiment: "not wanting to", recalcitrance would be a mental virus to be stomped out.

In actual act, neither the jabbed nor the unjabbed act like the “ant-men" climbing the Wailing Wall.

The behaviour of the "parts" in this strange play we are playing (the protagonist, the antagonist, the tritagonist, as in Greek classical tragedy, and to a large extent also in Shakespeare) is not mass-like at all —— [unless, as I noted, when the unjabbed take to the streets, intentionally creating a – peaceful – mass] –– but it is individual, and determined by the characters of each person’s individual drama called his/her life. That is why sudden agression endured by an un-jabbed or recalcitrant person from a jabbed person cannot be explained by the jabbed agressor’s "mass" behaviour. It cannot be differentiated from another sudden act of violence or violent remark one is the victim of, occasionally: "where did that come from?", we think then, not having the faintest idea what moved this person, unknown to us, to pick us for venting her or his ire at. As in good jiu-jitsu – a jiu-jitsu high-dan black belt once told me – it is essential to try and assess the "soul make-up" of one’s adversary, not by generalisation, but by screening his or her individuality down to where their weak points are revealed (cf. Castaneda’s tutors’ "warrior" concept).

This recognition and acknowledgement of how a person is wired and woven into the being he/she is may be the main way in which we can defend ourselves, but also, and maybe more importantly, in which we can win back this person to sanity.

Thinking about the transformation of the polity into a tyranny and how we can "sabotage" it, bend it around, overcome it, is therefore even more important than finding the loopholes in the jabbing extravaganza. The drive for total power the murderers who lead us want to obtain will be pursued whatever their means — medical, military, by manipulation of nature etc. — unless we stop it when we intentionally shape ourselves into "masses" that can overcome their onslaught. That calls for conversion, of ourselves, and through our example, of the others. At whatever stage of "jabbedness", a jabbed person can be converted to the adoration of Life. He or she may pass through great suffering or die on this lonely track of returning to Life, but she or he should never give up and we should never stop helping them on towards It.

To Avalon’s readers I recommend three autobiographical documents of great value and appropriateness to our theme. The first is the autobiography of Nadezhda Mandelstam (book1 (https://www.amazon.com/Hope-Against-Memoir-Nadezhda-Mandelstam/dp/0375753168/ref=sr_1_2?crid=14WJMPTJUTSXM&keywords=nadezhda+mandelstam&qid=1641847553&s=books&sprefix=nadyezhda+mandelstam%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C278&sr=1-2) and book 2 (https://www.amazon.com/Hope-Abandoned-Nadezhda-Mandelstam/dp/0689105495/ref=sr_1_1?crid=14WJMPTJUTSXM&keywords=nadezhda+mandelstam&qid=1641847553&s=books&sprefix=nadyezhda+mandelstam%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C278&sr=1-1)), the wife of the great Russian poet Osip Mandelstam – in which she describes with a gripping insight into our souls the day-to-day unfolding of Stalin’s tyranny in the Soviet Union, up to and beyond her husband’s death in a Gulag, and how she rescued a major part of his extraordinary poetry by learning it by heart, painstakingly. What struck me strongly at the time was how she delved into the why of "ordinary" betrayal: why members of one family, why friends, why neighbours on one floor in the apartment block, betrayed each other to Stalin’s police.

The second are the diaries of Victor Klemperer (book1 (https://www.amazon.com/Will-Bear-Witness-Diary-1933-1941/dp/0375753788/ref=sr_1_3?crid=37551SD1OALAZ&keywords=victor+klemperer&qid=1641847900&s=books&sprefix=victor+klemperer%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C219&sr=1-3) and book2 (https://www.amazon.com/Will-Bear-Witness-1942-1945-Diary/dp/0375756973/ref=sr_1_1?crid=37551SD1OALAZ&keywords=victor+klemperer&qid=1641847900&s=books&sprefix=victor+klemperer%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C219&sr=1-1)), who, living through Nazi terror, finds himself in a Jewish "ghetto"-type concentration camp where he sees his fellow forced-labour inmates “disappear” and documents how the Nazis distort the meaning of words (!) and invent new ones in order to express the reality they are busy creating (as Cheney (was it him?) used to say: "we change reality, so you can interpret it").

And the third document is "Berlin Diary (https://www.amazon.com/Berlin-Diary-William-L-Shirer-ebook/dp/B07NMFRXLG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1C607GNIDAQ3B&keywords=William+shirer+berlin+diaries&qid=1641848071&s=books&sprefix=william+shirer+berlin+diaries%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C204&sr=1-1)" written by William Shirer (the author of Rise and Fall of the Third Reich) while he was a correspondent in Germany from the early 30s up to 41 (just a few months before Pearl Harbour), which clearly show that there was not such a thing as the "German masses" (who would then be construed as collectively responsible for the crimes the Nazis committed), but that each German more or less embodied a unique, because own, way of "surviving" the tyranny while keeping some form of dignity and integrity — or conversely profited from the tyranny allowing themselves to indulge in all kinds of crimes the responsibility of which they bestowed on the Nazi Party (as in "Befehl its Befehl").

As the "consensus of the jabbed" (chiming in with the Inspired Words of our anthropocidal leaders) is gradually crumbling it is essential, I guess, to try and use the "divide and rule" rule against our tyrants. As the potential hazard of being inoculated just once is definitely not the same as the one of having two shots, and this again not of the one incurred after a first booster etc., the group of the inoculated persons is not a monolithic block. That means that vis-a-vis the relatively small group of people whom we may be able to influence there is room for an indivual tailor-made effort to win them back.

Michel Leclerc
10th January 2022, 21:56
....

(...) in relation to hypnosis[/URL] and digging down in Avalon's own wayback machine, I found something that directly illustrates what actually drives individual and collective behaviour: deeply buried unconscious programming (hooks/triggers):

Dear Gwin Ru.

Yes. But: "to think" is – very roughly paraphrasing Heidegger and so many others – "to think about thinking". This means that we can never escape the critique of the concepts that we use. Meme, psyop, Matrix.

"Meme" is a meme.
"Psyop" is a psyop.
"Matrix" is a matrix.

What has the "concept" "meme" brought to thinking, the day that it was deep-throated into us? Is "meme" a concept? An idea? Or is it just a "meme"? Why should I meme memes instead of thinking with concepts, hunches, guesses, ideas? What has it been other than an attempt to derail thinking by substituting for at least 2,500 years old thinking tools?

"It is a psyop". Not "psychological operation", mind you. Sigh-op. “It’s a psyop.” The loose remark uttered by people belonging to the secret agencies that they have all journalists in their pockets etc. — isn’t this remark itself a "psyop" (sigh: OP!)?

The most dreadful is the post-New-Age and already ageing but gradually moving over into its adjustment to AI shape..."concept" of "Matrix". To use "matrix" as a useful concept, it should at least be the metaphorical use of its mathematical concept and definition. That would be quite a stretch because less than 1 person in 1,000 knows what "matrix" means in mathematics. But everybody thinks that they know what "matrix" means because "them saw the movies". If such is the case, then the concept of "matrix", being an invention of Hollywood, is by virtue of the psyop (sigh: OP!) concept being applicable to Hollywood, itself the result of a psyop. To think that reality resembles a "Matrix" is the result of being programmed, by use of a Hollywood "psyop", of the reality of the "meme" "Matrix".

The concept of "hypnosis" is a useful concept. Everybody who slushes the toilet when another person touches his collar has been hypnotised. That is crystal-clear. (Especially after flushing six times.) Working from this example and by carefully applying inductive reasoning, we may ultimately find the concept of "hypnosis" helpful. (But: "Everybody who picks up the phone when another person calls him has been hypnotised". Why is this not true?)

"Matrix", "meme", "psyop" – for different reasons – are part of the/a smokescreen.

Shouldn’t we wake up from our collective hypnosis (our mass formation hypnosis!) and stop using such concepts?

BoR
10th January 2022, 22:45
This astonished me. :) (...)

Dear Bill, it did not astonish me.

There are a few flaws in the “theory”.

Allow me to not go into details, but just reflect on this. We all know that there is a behaviour that is common to the "vaccine”-takers. This common behaviour is that they take the vaccines. They also all tend to think that the State wants their best. And a few other things.

This common behaviour (and/or way of thinking etc.) is then explained by the concept of "mass formation". So the fact that thousands of people seem to behave and think in the same way and that they hence appear to form a "mass" is explained by the act that they "form a mass" ("mass formation"). This is not even circular reasoning, it is a tautology.

Such tautological reasoning is typical of certain social sciences (as per Karl Popper’s critique of them) and "mass formation" is not an exception. Mattias Demet is a clinical psychologist (not a depth psychologist or psychoanalyst), and clinical psychology tends to attach little attention to the definition of its operational concepts (unlike psychoanalysis, be it Freudian, Jungian, Adlerian, Groddeckian, Reichian or Lacanian). (As an aside: he is also a statistician, and admirable for the connection he is making between statistics and psychology. Interestingly, his thinking was triggered by the statistical anomalies he was witnessing being rolled out.)

The very use of the term "mass" is strange. Isn’t the theory predicated on the observation that people, hypnotised by their TV screens, become steadily more isolated and hence lack meaningful social contacts – as Mattias Desmet quite rightly states, quoting research done? How do isolated individuals turn into a "mass"? When we see the demonstrators in the streets of Western society’s capitals, don’t they much more qualify as "forming a mass" – or, as Negri used to put it, a "multitude"? Where are all those "mass-formed" "masses" of "vaccinated" people, claiming the one truth they all seem to believe? There aren’t any such demonstrations, because there are no motivated "masses" of "jabbed persons". It is the "unjabbed" who create "masses", and not unconsciously, but intentionally.

(On an aside, the concept of "mass" was instrumentalised in Marxist theory – and based itself on what happened during the Paris Commune, or on spontaneous strikes of industrial workers in the exploitative stage of brutal capitalism. Those were genuine masses, created by common predicament and common intent – as are the masses demonstrating against the jabbing and its ideology.)

So the concept of "mass formation" – which Mattias Desmet is careful to distinguish from "mass psychosis", and for a reason – does not explain what is happening to the "vaccinees": they are not, and have not been formed into, a mass.

What does happen then? A psychoanalytical approach comes nearer to it – and dovetails well with the observations quoted by Mattias Desmet about isolation, dissatisfaction with work, loss of the sense of living a meaningful life etc.

The term "psychosis", which belongs to the psychoanalytical conceptual toolkit, describes quite well what the vaccinated experience, feel, think and display. To put it very simply, it is linked with the concept of repression.

This term in itself has a psychoanalytical definition, and the phenomenon it encapsulates is also known to many readers of this forum in a quite different context: it is the repression of the evil, the abuse, the torture done to them (not only repression from their consciousness but also from their emotional self) which creates the "MK Ultra" hyper soldiers (based on a weaponising of the traits that Wilhelm Reich described as characterising the "armoured personality").

Repression of "bad" emotions, recollections, thoughts, actions – leads to neurosis: the common lot of all of us. Repression of this repression leads to psychosis. Not only do we hide certain unwelcome facts about ourselves in the drawers of our personality cabinet – which makes us feel guilty for a reason – but additionally we throw the key into the canal. We feel horrible, but we do not know any more what is causing this feeling.

Psychoanalysts or psychoanalytically trained sociologists like Girard would point at (thought of, desire of) homicide as thé experience to be doubly repressed: the fact that occasionally in our lives we have hated another human so deeply that we were on the verge of killing him or her (or even did so). Whenever we are triggered again by another person who "reminds us of" what is in that cabinet drawer, we react viciously, by word or deed. We cannot stand the "repressure" any more and show our ugly side. This is what happens when vaccinated people react violently to the very existence of the non-jabbed person. (Videos abound.)

Why do they do so? Because they are themselves the victim of a triple repression. Not only have they wanted do eliminate the "ones not belonging" to their group, and repressed that desire, and even repressed the fact that they have gone so far as repressing it so as not to be reminded of the fact that they are capable of such desires, but they have also repressed their own feelings of guilt about it and as a result their own condemnation of themselves as potentials perpetrators of evil. What is thus repressed is the ultimate "anti-life" desire to kill: the killing not of the others who "do not belong" – but of themselves as guilty of harbouring such feelings. It is the suicidal desire: the deep, unretrievably deep, feeling of unworthiness.

People who allow themselves to be jabbed and others to jab them enact their subconscious desire to live up to their (in their own eyes) deserved death by dying through slowkill. Psychoanalysis has uncovered such feelings of unworthiness, undeservingness as capable of bringing about major illnesses by "somatising" (expressing through the body) these feelings; showing through the language of bodily decay.

The major processes of creating these millions of jabbed people are not "massive" (only the results could be called "massive"), they are individual and/or related to small groups, typically the family, a group of friends, a group of neighbours – the small groups in which people’s lives have always tended to play out and in which personalities are shaped, processed, changed and maintained. In today’s technological world this type of interaction occurs in its minimal form (a dyad of two actors) in the dyad formed by "me and my mobile", "me and my laptop" (what a strange word, is it not? clearly showing that a metal top (an armour) is supposed to hide and repress the living sexual organs under it) — but are we not gradually being persuaded that the ultimate social interaction will be between "me and my AI robot"? Let us be certain that this AI robot will be our eternal triple-repression coach and monitor.

When asked what we should do about this "mass formation", Mattias Desmet says: to stand firm and never to stop informing the others, diplomatically of course.

This is most certainly needed – to slowly unravel the cognitive dissonances people feel.

But what to do with their emotional dissonances? With the pain they are continuously in and want to repress, which consists in having to deal with people (the non-vaccinated) who implicitly uncover their self-loathing mechanisms, and with authorities who increasingly prove to be completely untrustworthy, unable to keep the promises the "vaccines" were supposed to deliver? With their own threefold inner repression of the truth knocking at the door of their Self?

I would guess that the only key is love. The integrating kind of love which sees the other person (our family member, our neighbour, our friend...) as a whole being and as absolutely deserving of that love, and of being loved by the other person themselves, and thereby inviting them not to harm themselves.

Not only softly, or at times with tough love as a good parent will do, unveiling to them the facts that break the spell of cognitive dissonance, but also breaking the emotional dissonance by making them feel how much we care about their wholeness and want them to join again the track that allows them to thrive.

How much we love them. That it breaks our heart to see them like this.

That is another way to look at it. But a mass doesn’t need to be a physical mass of people coming together at once, in one place.

For example: person A meets person B, C and D. Person B is very persuasive and dominant in her communication and she speaks favorably and admirably about covid restrictions and vaccines. And she is loud about it. She also is very outspoken about these despicable ‘conspiracy nutcases’ who are being a danger to her and her children. She has the state propaganda, the police and (most, if not all of the) judges behind her. Person C is not so extreme in his views, but he hates conflict and really does not want to fall out of grace with person B. Let alone the state, police and judges! He is also not very convinced that she is completely wrong about the covid measures. She might be, maybe, but maybe not. He would never spontaneously call anyone with opposing views a dangerous conspiracy nutcase. That idea would simply not come up in his mind. When B asks C: “Am I right, C?”. C responds, trying keep the peace: “Yeah…absolutely!”. Person A now believes C shares the exact same opinion and also despises ‘conspiracy nutcases’.
Person D is someone who really wants to fit in. She really admires person B for her outspokenness, her dominance. Person D has no opinion about covid measures. She only cares for surviving and remaining part of a group (society) that ensures her survival. She wants to impress B by adding: “I think these nutcases should be locked up for their and our own safety!”. Now person A believes person D is even more convinced of her ideas, which are in fact only from person B and the state.

Person A is against covid tyranny, against mRNA experiments. But person A knows there is nothing to gain by giving his opinions in this conversation, because these people are already so extreme and outspoken about their positions. While in fact, it is only person B who is really having this opinion anchored in herself. But person C and D later in the week meet persons E-Z. They hear more of the same arguments, and when they turn on the television or pick up their newspaper, they read the same thing. It only takes some time before person C and D are internally just as convinced of the narrative as person B already was.

These people don’t meet all at once, but all 26 people have exchanged conversations during this week and for a large part their opinions/worldview synchronized. I say you can definitely call this a mass. They also read other people parroting the narrative on social media. And although they all seem to act as individuals, they start to act as one group, one religion. A mass is formed.

Michel Leclerc
14th January 2022, 22:23
That is another way to look at it. But a mass doesn’t need to be a physical mass of people coming together at once, in one place.

(...)

These people don’t meet all at once, but all 26 people have exchanged conversations during this week and for a large part their opinions/worldview synchronized. I say you can definitely call this a mass. They also read other people parroting the narrative on social media. And although they all seem to act as individuals, they start to act as one group, one religion. A mass is formed.

Thank you BoR, for engaging the point I am trying to make. I understand your reasoning, but why wouldn’t one call such a group of 26 people just a "group"?

I use the term "mass" in the sense given to it by Elias Canetti in Masse und Macht (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masse_und_Macht), his philosophical magnum opus, which ultimately goes back to his experience of "masses" as large groups of people assembled at the same spot and time and engaging in common action by common intent garnered during the Weimar Republic and confirmed by the Nazi mass gatherings as well as those in the Soviet Union etc.

I think that this is a useful concept with a clear definition. In the present context it is the demonstrations against the Covid tyranny which qualify as masses according to Canetti’s concept, as does the large mass gathering in Washington during the Trump-Biden interregnum. Conversely the group looting actions by BLM and Antifa do not seem to qualify as performed by masses, but rather as performed by gangs and mobs. Note that precisely this distinction in this case is linked with the distinction of respectability vs. objectionability of a mass demonstration vs. gang actions.

By introducing the concept of "mass formation" ("massavorming") as an in part automatic, "intent-less" phenomenon Canetti’s concept is being undermined. That is in my opinion unwarranted and dangerous. (The point of the intentional, hidden and hence misleading, changing of the meaning of ideas has been made elsewhere on this forum.)

As the "jabbed" have not yet given proof of making their presence known during real mass actions such as demonstrations with common intent etc., using the term "mass" hides from plain sight the reality of highly individual reasons people have to have themselves jabbed or allow themselves to be jabbed. (Conversely, the interventions of police and military against the demonstrators is an activity performed by – armed – masses.)

The fact that "the narrative’s crumbling" also seems to lead to a "crumbling" of the motives "jabbed" people may have (had) for their jabs, is an indication of the individual, personal nature of the set of motivations people have. Typically in conversations one hears statements such as "I have not taken the injection for A, B or C, but for D" – with people insisting on their personal reasons.

I consider the presence of such individualised sets of motivations as an opportunity for the people with brave hearts and clear minds to turn the tide. If they were confronted with real "masses", they would not stand a chance. In Nazi Germany and in the Soviet Union (to only refer to these obvious examples) people were unable to really resist because "masses" were only the – armed – "masses" who supported Nazi or Soviet policy.

We are not (yet) there.

jaybee
15th January 2022, 00:56
This astonished me. :) I felt sure the mainstream would totally ignore this, or more likely wouldn't even know it was being discussed. (It seems a nerve has been touched...)

https://twitter.com/APFactCheck/status/1479886452641120261
1479886452641120261


Indeed I agree that a nerve has been touched....

And what I think's happening is that the deliberate strategy is to not back down on anything and in fact to go a step further and to double down on what ever it is - and on this occasion it's the revelations about Mass Formation Psychosis....

I've noticed this deliberate strategy in play on the internet with those who appear to be working for intelligence agencies - and one of the training points is I observe .... to not back off - to confront everything head on - and to double down - - - backing off (ie ignoring) would be considered weakness and conceding so they will not do that - and doubling down is a show of calculated aggression and power...


That's what's happening as well with Top Politicians at the moment and I think they have been trained - groomed to do this - by the likes of the ghastly Klaus Schwab and others who are scheming and fronting the moves into Totalitarianism... they must, I think, have had training in high level workshops during their planned rise to power (and I also wonder if they actually have their own internet - another one where they freely speak and associate and build ideas and strategies...)


This thing about not backing off and doubling down can be seen at this stage of affairs with Macron talking about pissing off the unvaccinated - + Trudeau recently ...

https://westernstandardonline.com/2021/12/trudeau-calls-the-unvaccinated-racist-and-misogynistic-extremists/


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told a Quebec television station people who do not get vaccinated against COVID-19 are often racist and misogynistic extremists.

But he said the people of Quebec are not the problem and questioned whether the rest of Canada needs to “tolerate” the unvaccinated.


and not long ago Jacinda Ardern cheerfully agreeing that she was creating a two tier society and second class citizens... with her Covid policies...

Biden is one of the old brigade, not one of the groomed Young Global Leaders... but he is instructed to do the same - for example ignoring the Supreme Court and telling employers to mandate vaccination anyway... not backing off and doubling down... it's very dangerous what they're doing and could easily lead to actual genocide of those who refuse the jab..... further down the line :( the diabolical twist is that they are probably leading nations into genocide of the vaccinated as well - ie the depopulation thing...

Boris Johnson is in a bit of a different position, luckily for us in the UK...(at the moment)... I think he's held in check a bit by others in the Conservative Party so he can't go full on fascist... and to be fair it probably isn't in his nature (?).... the wanna~be Authoritarian Dictators want Sir Keir Starmer, or another Labour leader in the PM job but they have a bit of a job on their hands to do that -

Anyway I'm going on a bit now :) but to wrap this post up....... that's why I think they are confronting the Mass Formation Psychosis thing head on and also doubling down with their dismissal and downgrading of Dr Robert Malone at the same time...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

next morning edit.... it was late when I made the above post and I was tired and I somehow forgot to include Australia in the examples above - of politicians (in the English speaking '5 Eyes' group of western nations), that have been groomed and purposefully installed into influential positions... I don't know what the deal is with Scott Morrison, whether they have 'something' on him or whether his hands are tied because of the way the separate states are run... but 'they' clearly have the individual states covered and that's why individuals like Dan Andrews and that one from the Northern Territory (who spookily to me looks like Andrews) and the others are backing up the transformation of Australia into an Authoritarian hell hole... to be run along the lines of the Chinese Social Credit Score system - using digital currency, 5G and AI...

Michel Leclerc
16th January 2022, 22:46
(...)

And what I think's happening is that the deliberate strategy is to not back down on anything and in fact to go a step further and to double down on what ever it is - and on this occasion it's the revelations about Mass Formation Psychosis....

I've noticed this deliberate strategy in play on the internet with those who appear to be working for intelligence agencies - and one of the training points is I observe .... to not back off - to confront everything head on - and to double down - - - backing off (ie ignoring) would be considered weakness and conceding so they will not do that - and doubling down is a show of calculated aggression and power...

That's what's happening as well with Top Politicians at the moment and I think they have been trained - groomed to do this - by the likes of the ghastly Klaus Schwab and others who are scheming and fronting the moves into Totalitarianism... they must, I think, have had training in high level workshops during their planned rise to power (and I also wonder if they actually have their own internet - another one where they freely speak and associate and build ideas and strategies...)

This thing about not backing off and doubling down can be seen at this stage of affairs with Macron talking about pissing off the unvaccinated - + Trudeau recently ...

https://westernstandardonline.com/2021/12/trudeau-calls-the-unvaccinated-racist-and-misogynistic-extremists/


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told a Quebec television station people who do not get vaccinated against COVID-19 are often racist and misogynistic extremists.

But he said the people of Quebec are not the problem and questioned whether the rest of Canada needs to “tolerate” the unvaccinated.

(...)



Dear Jaybee, thanks for your point about their "own" internet. Not to emphasise my being "right" in criticising the "mass formation" concept (and a little less the applicability of the "mass psychosis" hypothesis), but I would like to point out that, as tentative an interpretation as it may be, it is maybe not a very good basis for a strategy and/or tactics in the "war" that is going on.

Note that it is the political leaders of our countries who consider the "unvaccinated" or the "vaccine hesitant" as a determined, fanatical, etc. "mass" (as if the demonstrating masses would somehow represent all vaccine-dodgers – in which they are right), and that in order to fight them (us) they are prone to using a "divide and rule" strategy (of jabbed against "unvaccinated", but also of "hesitant" against "non-vaxxers" etc.).

I think that it is a wiser strategy for us to start from the hypothesis that the "vaccinated" are to a very large degree "vaccinated" for varying reasons and have individual motivations (a neighbouring family of 6 are – a 13-year old excepted – all "vaccinated" but for different reasons (e.g.: old age and hence supposed vulnerability for the grand-parents, professional coercion of the mother, solidarity of her husband with her (also called love!), desire to live a "full" life of the son who has just joined university — and these five people not necessarily endorsing each other’s motivations) and to try and persuade them to at least and for a start abandon the booster track for the future.

On the other hand we should apply "divide and rule" tactics to the probably equally diverse group of our rulers who may be supportive of the "jabbing" agenda for individual reasons also. In my part of France I can see how at the mayor’s level hesitancy and questioning is growing. A critical "mass" (in the physical sense) of them might inflect the stance taken by the leaders of departments and regions on one hand, as well as the lawmakers on the other hand.

A quite successful campaign is unfolding now with as title (my paraphrase): "I will wait for the results of the vaccine experiment to be published before I allow my children to be vaccinated". The wisdom of the formulation (let alone the decision) is so obvious to everybody that the logical inference "as well as myself" does not escape anyone’s attention. Great strategy and tactics, I feel.

avid
16th January 2022, 22:59
This is soooo important, and regularly worth watching, the mass warfare psychiatrix employed now, and globally
https://www.ukcolumn.org

Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday this is honest journalism with references, the ‘trip themselves up’ of the fascist behaviours of folks’ ‘governments’ now..
Real eyeopening vindications of those who are persecuted, cancelled, and edited out.

Deserves its own thread here.

gord
17th January 2022, 02:10
Relentless, pervasive 'perception management' extensively produces consensus tranced golems, so to speak. Having seen it in action, not just with covid, but in many, many other ways for a long time before covid, I doubt I'll ever be able to un-see it. It's hideous.

Eva2
19th January 2022, 06:21
'VIVIANNE FISHER & REINER FUELLMICH OF CIC INTERVIEW PROF. MATTIAS DESMET'
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Kh7eX1feriJB/?list=notifications&randomize=false

Does it sometimes feel like you’re surrounded by people who’ve been hypnotised in some way? Well, maybe you are.
Todays interview guest is Mattias Desmet, Professor of Clinical Psychology at Ghent University in Belgium, and his observations over the past 22 months have led him to conclude that the overwhelming majority have indeed fallen under a kind of spell, which has come by the name " Mass Formation [Psychosis ? ]". This mass formation has during these 22 months been greatly aided by a massive proffessional, military style psyop consisting of MSM media, big tech, big pharma, WHO, world governments etc...etc...

Prof. Mattias Desmet resumé: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TUnZYIrAyCrGsFM0pdRBUn53BehWDf2Q/view?usp=sharing

Ghent University: https://biblio.ugent.be/person/801001743835

The Corona Committee was formed by four lawyers. It is conducting an evidence review of the Corona crisis and actions.'

jaybee
19th January 2022, 08:18
Dear Jaybee, thanks for your point about their "own" internet. Not to emphasise my being "right" in criticising the "mass formation" concept (and a little less the applicability of the "mass psychosis" hypothesis), but I would like to point out that, as tentative an interpretation as it may be, it is maybe not a very good basis for a strategy and/or tactics in the "war" that is going on.

Note that it is the political leaders of our countries who consider the "unvaccinated" or the "vaccine hesitant" as a determined, fanatical, etc. "mass" (as if the demonstrating masses would somehow represent all vaccine-dodgers – in which they are right), and that in order to fight them (us) they are prone to using a "divide and rule" strategy (of jabbed against "unvaccinated", but also of "hesitant" against "non-vaxxers" etc.).

I think that it is a wiser strategy for us to start from the hypothesis that the "vaccinated" are to a very large degree "vaccinated" for varying reasons and have individual motivations (a neighbouring family of 6 are – a 13-year old excepted – all "vaccinated" but for different reasons (e.g.: old age and hence supposed vulnerability for the grand-parents, professional coercion of the mother, solidarity of her husband with her (also called love!), desire to live a "full" life of the son who has just joined university — and these five people not necessarily endorsing each other’s motivations) and to try and persuade them to at least and for a start abandon the booster track for the future.

On the other hand we should apply "divide and rule" tactics to the probably equally diverse group of our rulers who may be supportive of the "jabbing" agenda for individual reasons also. In my part of France I can see how at the mayor’s level hesitancy and questioning is growing. A critical "mass" (in the physical sense) of them might inflect the stance taken by the leaders of departments and regions on one hand, as well as the lawmakers on the other hand.

A quite successful campaign is unfolding now with as title (my paraphrase): "I will wait for the results of the vaccine experiment to be published before I allow my children to be vaccinated". The wisdom of the formulation (let alone the decision) is so obvious to everybody that the logical inference "as well as myself" does not escape anyone’s attention. Great strategy and tactics, I feel.

thanks for your reply - just picking out the two points above that are bolded and could be related to each other...

I was thinking of them maybe having their own internet because this is such a huge endeavor... what they are trying to pull off... in a nutshell bringing down and destroying the West (and, in stages, all the countries of the world)... so they can (in their view)..... build back better..... although of course their idea of 'better' will not be what The People consider better and that's why they are sneaky and secretive about it all... especially the 'depopulation' part...

Perhaps they can use really secure encryption... perhaps that's how they communicate with each other - but I would think the normal channels of emails - and even conversation in person that would be recorded through various means.... leaves them vulnerable to discovery and exposure providing evidence of their sneakiness and secret collusion -

What you said about the 'Rulers' being divided .... I think that when things get tough they need to give each other a lot of support and feedback so they stay on track and don't weaken..... if they had their own internet they could use it as much as they wanted, when they wanted... although perhaps they all have mentors that can be contacted 24/7...?

But anyway... on that subject of things getting tough at the top as all these secretive plans are put into action... I saw Jacinda Ardern talking about the Tonga eruption and she looked very rough - and I thought that what she is doing to the people of New Zealand craftily without their consent could be taking it's toll and these political leaders probably need a lot of mentoring and support to keep the secret agenda afloat...

but even so.....behind closed doors their commitment + resolve could be weakening...

DNA
19th January 2022, 09:18
I want to put this out there even though I know many of us are wary of "channeled messages." But these thoughts are only partially channeled.

The other day I was thinking -- "Could negative subliminals be coming over the internet like they did (do?) with Television?
Several years ago, I stopped watching videos that advertise how to raise your vibration, your frequency and all the new age/philosophy propaganda vids/sites.


Few Examples
https://i.imgur.com/kW7aJ3H.jpg


Around that time I discovered the video below of how easy it is to manipulate another. Since then we’ve learned how much technology is used to alter us in a sundry of ways. Personal responsibility in behavioral changes helps me to fine tune cognition and consciousness. If I’m not aware enough to see the ways in which I hold myself hostage in mind games then how can I ward-off out side influences?

As my good friend use to say: Knowin’ ain’t doin’.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/images/space-bar-grey.jpg
Repost:

There are videos and website designed to entrain or worse. Below is a an eye opening confirmation about embedded subliminal messages. As soon as I watch/listen to some YouTube vid, I get a headache or a distinct sensation in the third eye. They're mostly but not limited to the New Age and the relaxation videos. Some make it onto the forum.

@ 56 (https://youtu.be/YG2cY7WGvHs?t=56s) - This husband made a subliminal message to program his wife.




“My wife doesn’t like to cook. We eat out a lot and I’m sick of it. Boy, wouldn’t this be great if I could get her to cook dinner and stay at home.” “…I put my final mp3 into her background screensaver so every day she’s hearing that play a few times a day…”




Subliminal Message - How to make a Subliminal Message - 7 minutes
YG2cY7WGvHs

Uploaded on Jan 23, 2009

Learn how to make a subliminal message cd or mp3. Fast easy way to create a subliminal message using subliminal message software. Subliminal messages are hidden messages in background music.



Hi.
I don't know how Kosher it is to quote someone from one thread and copy and paste it on to another.
So if not please write me the appropriate ticket.
If not lets continue. :)

I'm of the opinion that a lot of this Mass-Hypnosis is more than consciously placed tripe and information.
I'm of the opinion that there is a lot of subliminal stuff going on and low and behold I find this wonderful post by Paula which while on another thread I feel absolutely that this information should be here as well.
This short little tutorial on operating and making subliminal messages is just mind blowing.
I'm of the opinion that this kind of thing is in far more entertainment industry related stuff than we would like to think.
Video games really comes to mind.
Gamers are some of the most programmed when it comes to accepting the status quo and not questioning the propaganda.
They could even have a rare moment of clarity, question the propaganda, and then when you agree with them and express your admiration for their opinion they get triggered.
I'm not kidding.
It's this freaking bad. I've seen these young men do this.
SO yes, please check out the information Paula posted. It's absolutely amazing stuff.

RunningDeer
19th January 2022, 14:17
DNA, talk about timing... Yesterday, I copied my post and downloaded the video for safe keeping. The channel has less than 500 subscribers and 109,132 views for the video.

DNA
27th January 2022, 03:04
https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/eric-clapton-subliminal-messages-covid-interview-1235022031/?fbclid=IwAR2PKbGdYNjMuKJXkZwRWHDjT7zv6FpiGjBrMivBEz3LL6bZn1PpBQip5j0

Eric Clapton kicking the knowledge!!!!

RunningDeer
27th January 2022, 14:13
https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/eric-clapton-subliminal-messages-covid-interview-1235022031/?fbclid=IwAR2PKbGdYNjMuKJXkZwRWHDjT7zv6FpiGjBrMivBEz3LL6bZn1PpBQip5j0

Eric Clapton kicking the knowledge!!!!


Vaccine Skeptic Eric Clapton Claims ‘Subliminal’ Messages
Are Convincing People to Fall In Line





Clapton, who has railed against COVID-19 measures, discussed a discredited theory that people are receiving pro-vaccination messages subliminally in videos.

Gil Kaufman01/24/2022


https://i.imgur.com/7rDqT0f.jpg

Eric Clapton on stage during The Fashion Awards 2019
held at Royal Albert Hall on Dec. 2, 2019 in London. Lia Toby/BFC/GI




After months of railing against COVID-19 lockdowns and vaccines, and refusing to play shows that require vaccination proof, Eric Clapton has seemingly embraced a controversial theory claiming that secret messages are allegedly being hidden inside YouTube videos with the goal of driving mass compliance with COVID precautions. The 76-year-old rock icon pointed to the theory as an explanation for his divisive views on the global pandemic that has killed more than 5.6 million people worldwide.

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“[I thought], ‘What’s going on here?’ I didn’t get the memo. Whatever the memo was, it hadn’t reached me,” Clapton told YouTube channel the Real Music Observer about why he decided to team up with his old friend — and fellow lockdown opponent Van Morrison —  for the anti-lockdown screed “Stand and Deliver,” as well as releasing his own similar take, “This Has Gotta Stop.”

Clapton told the YouTube channel’s host that he then realized that he had, in fact, gotten the memo in the form of a controversial theory espoused by clinical psychology professor Mattias Desmet, who has been promoting the idea that we are all suffering from a “mass psychosis” when it comes to COVID-19. The theory proposes that messages encouraging people to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and to take other precautions are part of a shadowy attempt to hypnotize the masses to fall in line.

The theory, which has been widely debunked, gained steam in December 2021 on the popular Joe Rogan Experience podcast, which has frequently been the source of incorrect and medically dubious information about the pandemic. Clapton has claimed that he suffered from severe nerve damage to his fingers as a result of taking the AstraZeneca vaccine, and was so sick he could not play his guitar for months.

“My career had almost gone anyway. At the point where I spoke up, it had been almost 18 months since I had kind of been forcibly retired,” he told Real Music Observer. “And I joined forces with Van. I got the tip that Van was standing up to the measures. And I thought, ‘Why isn’t anybody else doing this?’ And we go back; I’ve known him since we were kids. And I contacted him. I said, ‘What do you think? What’s going on?’ And he said, ‘I’m just objecting, really. But it seems like we’re not even allowed to do that. And nobody else is doing it.’ And I said, ‘You’re kidding. Nobody else?’”

Clapton said he was surprised and mystified when “nobody” wanted to hear his anti-lockdown songs, which just challenged him even more. “I’m cut from the cloth where if you tell me I can’t do something, I really wanna know why I can’t do it. And it seemed like I’d had a wall built around me. But I thought, ‘I’m gonna do this,'” he said, adding that he did cut some of Morrison’s lyrics “just to pacify those that I really didn’t wanna hurt … or scare.” Regardless, he said, some of his family and friends were scared.

And then he said he happened upon this theory about the alleged subliminal messages in pro-vaccination videos, and “I could see it then – once I kind of started to look for it, I saw it everywhere … Then I remembered seeing little things on YouTube which were like subliminal advertising; it had been going on for a long time – that thing about ‘you will own nothing and you will be happy.’ And I thought, ‘What’s that mean?’” said Clapton in the interview about the alleged mind-manipulation going on on YouTube.

Real Music Observer has frequently referred to people who support vaccines as “complete morons” and “hivemind,” and recent videos contain titles such as “Meat Loaf Possible Cause of Death Being Used Against People Who Love Freedom” and “Pink Floyd Legend Nick Mason Cancels All His 2022 Shows Due to the Thingdemic.”

“And bit by bit, I put a rough kind of jigsaw puzzle together, and that made me even more resolute. And so I went from that to looking at the news stuff that was coming out in England and the U.K. We have BBC, and it used to be an impartial commentary on world affairs and state affairs. And suddenly it was completely one-way traffic about following orders and obedience,” Clapton continued in the interview titled “Eric Clapton Versus the Hivemind.”

Those fears about hidden messages, he said, are part of what motivated him to work on the songs. “Then these guys that were in power really started to piss me … and everybody,” he said. “I have a tool, I have a calling, and I can make use of that. So I set about it and started writing.”

Mark (Star Mariner)
27th January 2022, 16:40
This is a real email:

48345

The core issue here is not necessarily the person suffering the derangement, but those around him/her that would readily pander to the derangement.

This is the next level folks, and it must be watched very carefully.

Me, I would absolutely ignore this memo and refuse to wear a mask. At a certain point you draw a line in the sand. Consequences be damned.

RunningDeer
27th January 2022, 18:08
DNA, talk about timing... Yesterday, I copied my post and downloaded the video for safe keeping (January 19, 2022). The channel has less than 500 subscribers and 109,132 views for the video.

Timing again. The video on ”how to create a subliminal message” is now set to private. The main point is that it’s possible and simple to do.

Several years ago, I stopped watching videos that advertise how to raise your vibration, your frequency and all the new age/philosophy propaganda vids/sites.


Few Examples
https://i.imgur.com/kW7aJ3H.jpg


Around that time I discovered the video below of how easy it is to manipulate another. Since then we’ve learned how much technology is used to alter our thinking processes.

There are videos and website designed to entrain. Below is confirmation about embedded subliminal messages. As soon as I watch/listen to some YouTube vid, I get a headache or a distinct sensation in the third eye. They're mostly but not limited to the New Age and the relaxation videos. Some make it onto the forum.


http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/red-line.gif


@ 56 (https://youtu.be/YG2cY7WGvHs?t=56s) - This husband made a subliminal message to program his wife.




“My wife doesn’t like to cook. We eat out a lot and I’m sick of it. Boy, wouldn’t this be great if I could get her to cook dinner and stay at home.” “…I put my final mp3 into her background screensaver so every day she’s hearing that play a few times a day…”


Subliminal Message - How to make a Subliminal Message - 7 minutes



Learn how to make a subliminal message cd or mp3. Fast easy way to create a subliminal message using subliminal message software. Subliminal messages are hidden messages in background music.

Uploaded on Jan 23, 2009

YG2cY7WGvHs

gord
29th January 2022, 07:18
If you're short on time I'll suggest watching the end of the video starting at 28:35. You'll see that he's horrified with what he recognizes is going on, and then you might want to watch the main part of the video starting around 11:16. The beginning of the video shows some clips of his professional stage hypnosis shows.

LA School District Uses Psychologically Manipulative Cartoon Using NLP / Hypnosis!!! (Aug 10, 2021)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QND31bJ78qI

Imagine your school using sneaky hypnotic mind control techniques on your kids.

https://achieve.lausd.net/dailypass

The Los Angeles Unified School District put out a highly manipulative cartoon.

As a professional stage hypnotist, clinical hypnotherapist, master and neuro linguistic programmer and conversational hypnosis practitioner I am absolutely mortified with what I'm seeing.

I break down most of the concepts being used in this video, can you spot the ones I didn't mention?

Let us know in the comments 👇

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Delight
29th April 2022, 00:15
TPC #792: Dr. Mattias Desmet & Dr. Robert Malone (Do People Want To Be Free?)
Tommy's Podcast Published April 27, 2022

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Gwin Ru
9th June 2022, 13:32
Breaking free from Mass Formation Psychosis, with Mattias Desmet (https://www.corbettreport.com/desmet-massformation/)

James Corbett
The Corbett Report (https://www.corbettreport.com/desmet-massformation/)
Mon, 30 May 2022 00:00 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s32/648474/large/proxy_image_1.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s32/648474/full/proxy_image_1.jpg)

Mattias Desmet is a Professor of Clinical Psychology at Ghent University in Belgium. His theory of mass formation during the coronavirus crisis has become widely known and widely misunderstood since gaining mainstream attention. His new book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism (https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism/), lays out what mass formation is, how it develops, how it leads to totalitarianism, and what we must do to change the conditions that makes these mass formation events possible.


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https://www.corbettreport.com/mp4/desmet-massformation.mp4


SHOW NOTES:

The Psychology of Totalitarianism (https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism/) by Mattias Desmet

PM launches Government's first loneliness strategy (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-launches-governments-first-loneliness-strategy)

Surgeon general: Americans must address loneliness epidemic (https://www.ksnblocal4.com/2021/06/01/us-surgeon-general-americans-must-address-loneliness-epidemic/)

How Long Is the Coast of Britain? (https://venturi.soe.ucsc.edu/sites/default/files/Mandelbrot1967.pdf) (Mandelbrot)

The Origins of Totalitarianism (https://archive.org/details/the-origins-of-totalitarianism-hannah-arendt) by Hannah Arendt

The Crowd: A Study Of The Popular Mind (https://archive.org/details/gustavlebonthecrowdastudyofthepopularmindbatochebookskitchener2001/page/n1/mode/2up) by Gustav Le Bon


https://www.sott.net/image/s32/648476/medium/proxy_image_2.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s32/648476/full/proxy_image_2.jpg)



Related (to Post # 40 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115574-Did-your-spiritual-practice-ever-attract-black-helicopters&p=1438716&viewfull=1#post1438716)):


Orgone in a Can (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99857-Targeted-Individuals-experiences-problems-and-solutions&p=1233750&viewfull=1#post1233750)



Wild, Untamed Meditations (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115574-Did-your-spiritual-practice-ever-attract-black-helicopters&p=1438716&viewfull=1#post1438716) (frequencies)

gnostic9
13th June 2022, 20:39
A very interesting conversation about "mass formation" scientism, rationalism etc. Worth a listen.



https://vimeo.com/719582018?


Love peace and joy to all!

Ewan
13th June 2022, 20:51
Excellent, thanks gnostic9

onawah
1st July 2022, 19:56
MASS FORMATION IS HERDING US INTO SELF-ANNIHILATION
June 29, 2022
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/mass-formation-is-herding-us-into-fascism/

(Some hyperlinks in the article not embedded here)

"To those of us not swept up in the mass formation psychosis, it has become almost impossible to distinguish between parody and what passes for reality, such as gender dysphoric men competing in sports against women and feeling “accomplished” when they win gold. See:
https://www.outsports.com/2019/6/3/18649927/ncaa-track-champion-cece-telfer-transgender-athlete-fpu-trans-testosterone

America has had a penchant for mass hysteria since the early days of the Salem witch trials but the large-scale subversion campaigns and propaganda warfare being waged against us today are designed to induce a specific form of mass hysteria that Belgian psychologist, Mattias Desmet calls “mass formation psychosis”, which he defines as a destructive groupthink that forbids dissident views. See: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/plandemic-3-mass-formation/

Desmet has identified mass formation psychosis as a method to impose totalitarianism on a free society by exploiting large groups of people’s loneliness or their lack of connection or sense of meaning, in order to persuade them to act against their own interests, as was achieved in the societies of Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia and Communist China.

Over the past six years, the criminal establishment has programmed Americans and the world with Trump Derangement Syndrome and the closely-related Branch Covidian Cult. People succumb to these psychoses because they have been successfully conditioned by the world’s best social engineers to derive order and meaning from these belief systems. See: https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2022/01/17/questions-our-branch-covidian-overlords-refuse-to-answer-n2601932

To be free of mass formation, Desmet writes, “There is a point where we must stop losing ourselves in the crowd to experience meaning and connection. That is the point where the winter of totalitarianism gives way to a spring of life.”

Harrison Smith has an excellent grasp of what’s going on politically and geopolitically, which he expounds upon daily on his show, American Journal on InfoWars. To illustrate what’s driving the deployment of endless distractions, like the Communist J6 Kangaroo Court Show Trial, trans pedophile kindergarten teachers and everything to do with AOC, he recently ran a clip of another very smart guy, author and former Muslim extremist who spent 5 years in an Egyptian prison, Maajid Nawaz , who knows all about mass formation of the Islamist stripe. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz

Maajid explains what he sees going on today:

“I think we’re in the middle of an attempted global palace coup and to achieve that global palace coup, which is, quite literally a takeover of global governance under one centralized authority on the planet, after having seeded agents in various national governments and being admitted to openly by Klaus Schwab, on the record at Harvard University.

“To succeed in that plan, you need to be able to destroy everybody’s connection to reality, because you’re changing reality for the purposes of an ideological agenda. You’re trying, almost like a struggle session under the Chinese Communist Party to change what people view as real, so that you can take them along with your ideological indoctrination.

“To do that, everything needs to be relative. There needs to be no such thing as truth – or, because truth is obviously a search, we can’t be so arrogant as to claim we have it – so more accurately, there can be no such a thing as the quest for truth.

“What matters is relativity, because if everything is subjective, then nothing is correct and if I have power, I can manipulate propaganda and all of the process and all of the institutions of society to push people towards a new reality, which is my dogmatic vision.

“And unfortunately, the last two years, through COVID demonstrated more than we needed, in terms of proofs and evidences around the world that this agenda has been afoot.

“And I’ll end on this note, because I like to think I’m not a stupid man and when I see every single Western national government across Europe, in the Five Eyes nations, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States of America, those English-speaking Five Eyes nations – but also, across Europe – all of these governments making the very same mistakes on the very same issue at the very same time, you can’t convince me that there isn’t some kind of nefarious agenda going on there.”

America is being mass-murdered by our own Federal Government. Steve Kirsch, California tech entrepreneur and founder of the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation estimates that as of June 24, 2022, the shots have left as many as five million Americans unable to work, 30 million injured, and more than 750,000 dead. See: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/embalmer-richard-hirschman-reveals-novel-clotting-in-65-of-cases/ https://www.technocracy.news/survey-more-than-750000-dead-30-million-injured-because-of-covid-vax/

In a June 28th interview with Greg Hunter, Dr David Martin estimates that worldwide, 700 million will die from the vaxx by 2028. See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114253-Vaccine-Crimes&p=1505155&viewfull=1#post1505155

Yet, the US Government on Wednesday agreed to buy 105 million more doses from Pfizer, to be delivered as early as late summer 2022 through the 4th quarter of this year for $3.2 billion upon receipt. There’s also an option to purchase up to 195 million additional doses, bringing the total number of potential doses to 300 million.

Utter madness. This is what 21st century warfare looks like. This is what 21st century genocide looks like.

The way they’ve been able to get away with this so far is by stealth, by gaslighting and by the financial coercion of corporate mandates. So what happens when these stop working? Is that when they trot out the nukes?

I had the opportunity to ask Katherine Watt during my weekly Thursday segment on AMP’s Making Sense of the Madness. See: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/legal-framework-for-tyranny-with-katherine-watt-alexandra-bruce/
Katherine is a legal analyst and super sleuth, who discovered the systematic, incremental slow kill of Constitutional laws that has legalized the Globalist takeover of America under the guise of public health.
See: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/us-laws-all-secretly-changed-to-enable-mass-genocide/

She thinks that when the narrative finally breaks down for the majority of the populace, that’s when the long-predicted mass power outages will occur, in addition to accelerated supply chain breakdowns, due to lack of Diesel and Diesel additives that further destroy the shipping industry.

It appears the post-World War II Pax Americana financial order is collapsing by design, to be replaced by a “Multipolar World Order”, also known as the BRICS alliance – the fund for which is comprised of people from the IMF and the World Bank. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The House always wins.

The war in Ukraine and the Russian sanctions have done nothing but accelerate the process of collapsing the West and ushering in this Multipolar World Order.

Longtime subscriber and journalist, Ann Delap left this comment on one of my recent posts:

“The tables have turned. The nations of the world are doing to America what we have been doing to them for decades. The misery this creates will cause the upending of the US government by its own people. Penny Kelly has predicted a coup by early next year. Secession of several states will follow. The United States will be broken up like the Soviet Union. The bigger picture, however, is that the two factions vying for control of planet Earth actually answer to the same controllers. The break-up of America and Europe will benefit the banksters who desperately need an excuse to not pay their unfunded liabilities, i.e. Social Security, Medicare, gov’t. pensions, bonds, etc. If they get their way, the people will be screwed, as usual.”\

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Bill Ryan
29th July 2022, 08:34
An excellent new 40 minute interview by Chris Martenson with Mattias Desmet.

Mattias Desmet: It's Time to Take a Stand :muscle:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6hFHr6-uJo

Violet3
30th July 2022, 07:49
An excellent new 40 minute interview by Chris Martenson with Mattias Desmet.

Mattias Desmet: It's Time to Take a Stand :muscle:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6hFHr6-uJo

Wow, that guy blew my mind. Highly highly recommended. Gave me hope, a precious feeling.

Delight
15th August 2022, 01:20
This was really a good interview IMO. The questions were good.

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Delight
6th September 2022, 02:13
Many of you know that Peter and Ginger Breggin have come down on Mattias Desmet. Many have followed as they suggest it sems like "victim" blaming towards us? I disagree because this situation MUST be supported by how groups perceive what is happening?

IMO this is a must watch....

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“Mattias Desmet joins The Alex Jones Show to break down the psychology of totalitarianism and mass formation hypnosis.” – The Alex Jones Show

(https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/09/mass-formation-hypnosis-the-psychology-of-totalitarianism-exposed-professor-mattias-desmet-in-studio-video/ref/6/)

The comments on banned.video are informative. I agree with this one....


Breggin has completely missed the boat on this. Desmet IS NOT CLAIMING there is not a conspiracy and he IS NOT blaming ANYONE. You cannot talk to people that have bought into C@v!d and v@xx. You cannot talk to them. I have friends that have turned hostile. Some I have known for 20 years. Their behavior is not normal.

I have Breggin’s book we are the prey, I get his newsletter, listened to his interview s but I am beginning to wonder.

Recently watched a documentary on a teenage girl that over a long period of time convinced and heavily encouraged her boyfriend to commit suicide. She was on the phone with him as he was in the act and voicing doubts. But she said get back to it and finish the job. Breggin testified it was not her fault. She was on antidepressants. When does someone become responsible for the actions?

The c@v!d situation does not have to be either, or. Part of the c@nspir@cy is mocking bird media that causes the beliefs, rage, of the people that cannot be reasoned with.

Johan (Keyholder)
6th September 2022, 05:06
How many of us have read Mattias Desmet's book? (Or Gustave Le Bon, Primo Levi and Viktor Frankl?( He gives one of the clearest explanations on what is happening today. I am sure not that many people know and understand the difference between a dictatorial regime and a totalitarian one.

Or which one is "the worst" of the two.

He also clarifies that the only way to counter-act totalitarianism is not to become violent, because that only "feeds" the totalitarian system. It's what it wants. So, what can we do?

Personally, I encountered "the solution" yesterday. I went to what is called a biological fair in Namur, in the French-speaking part of Belgium. While it was all about self-sustainability in every way, it became soon apparent that the pricing of what was there was exorbitant. It looked and felt like a self-defying purpose.

But I took one interesting thing from the visit. A man that had started a micro farm (in the town of Spa) gave a talk. It was aligned with what Mattias Desmet describes, but applied to permaculture. And he also pointed out that going against the grain (of those 'in control') is incredibly difficult.

However, he reminded the public of the following tale. It's worthwhile bringing it up here I think. We can learn from it.

The Story of the Hummingbird

One day a terrible fire broke out in a forest - a huge woodlands was suddenly engulfed by a raging wild fire. Frightened, all the animals fled their homes and ran out of the forest. As they came to the edge of a stream they stopped to watch the fire and they were feeling very discouraged and powerless. They were all bemoaning the destruction of their homes. Every one of them thought there was nothing they could do about the fire, except for one little hummingbird.

This particular hummingbird decided it would do something. It swooped into the stream and picked up a few drops of water and went into the forest and put them on the fire. Then it went back to the stream and did it again, and it kept going back, again and again and again. All the other animals watched in disbelief; some tried to discourage the hummingbird with comments like, "Don't bother, it is too much, you are too little, your wings will burn, your beak is too tiny, it’s only a drop, you can't put out this fire."

And as the animals stood around disparaging the little bird’s efforts, the bird noticed how hopeless and forlorn they looked. Then one of the animals shouted out and challenged the hummingbird in a mocking voice, "What do you think you are doing?" And the hummingbird, without wasting time or losing a beat, looked back and said, "I am doing what I can."

Johan (Keyholder)
7th September 2022, 08:44
It is a good exercice for us to know and distinguish these two different points of view, ideas.

The two best links (I think) to follow their arguments:

Mattias Desmet: https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/am-i-an-expert-in-mass-formation

The Breggin's: https://breggin.com/article-detail/post_detail/Mattias-Desmet-Mass-Hypnosis-Expert-or-Trojan-Horse-The-Full-Story

What do you think?

ExomatrixTV
7th January 2023, 15:27
The Psychology of Totalitarianism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119992-The-Psychology-of-Totalitarianism) :dog:

What if beLIEved lies is the only real "currency" of psychopathic control freaks!

I call it "Perception Wars" ...

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

gini
4th February 2023, 16:54
Conversation with Robert F. Kennedy JR. | How The Powerful Captured The Public During The Pandemic---Kim Iverson- Feb 4, 2023--12 min--izklfQVWYMA
Robert F. Kennedy JR joins the show...catch the full interview here:
https://rumble.com/v288tw7-conversati...

Johnnycomelately
19th April 2024, 09:47
Came across this Wiki page while reading about one of Erin Brockovich’s failed lawsuits, which followed a story about California’s new regs on hexavalent Chromium that used the movie title in the headline. Thought it sounded like what this thread is about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness


Mass psychogenic illness

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Mass hysteria" redirects here. For the band, see Mass Hysteria (band).

Mass psychogenic illness (MPI), also called mass sociogenic illness, mass psychogenic disorder, epidemic hysteria or mass hysteria, involves the spread of illness symptoms through a population where there is no infectious agent responsible for contagion.[1] It is the rapid spread of illness signs and symptoms affecting members of a cohesive group, originating from a nervous system disturbance involving excitation, loss, or alteration of function, whereby physical complaints that are exhibited unconsciously have no corresponding organic causes that are known.[2]

Causes

MPI is distinct from other types of collective delusions by involving physical symptoms.[3] It is not well understood and its causes are uncertain.[4] Qualities of MPI outbreaks often include:[3]

symptoms that have no plausible organic basis;
symptoms that are transient and benign;
symptoms with rapid onset and recovery;
occurrence in a segregated group;
the presence of extraordinary anxiety;
symptoms that are spread via sight, sound or oral communication;
a spread that moves down the age scale, beginning with older or higher-status people;

British psychiatrist Simon Wessely distinguishes between two forms of MPI:[2]

Mass anxiety hysteria "consists of episodes of acute anxiety, occurring mainly in schoolchildren. Prior tension is absent and the rapid spread is by visual contact."[5]
Mass motor hysteria "consists of abnormalities in motor behaviour. It occurs in any age group and prior tension is present. Initial cases can be identified and the spread is gradual. ... [T]he outbreak may be prolonged."[5]
While his definition is sometimes adhered to,[2][6] others contest Wessely's definition and describe outbreaks with qualities of both mass motor hysteria and mass anxiety hysteria.[7]

The DSM-IV-TR does not define a diagnosis for this condition but the text describing conversion disorder states that "In 'epidemic hysteria', shared symptoms develop in a circumscribed group of people following 'exposure' to a common precipitant."

Common symptoms

Timothy F. Jones of the Tennessee Department of Health compiles the following symptoms based on their commonality in outbreaks occurring in 1980–1990:[8]

Symptom Percent reporting

Headache 67
Dizziness or light-headedness 46
Nausea 41
Abdominal cramps or pain 39
Cough 31
Fatigue, drowsiness or weakness 31
Sore or burning throat 30
Hyperventilation or difficulty breathing 19
Watery or irritated eyes 13
Chest tightness/chest pain 12
Inability to concentrate/trouble thinking 11
Vomiting 10
Tingling, numbness or paralysis 10
Anxiety or nervousness 8
Diarrhea 7
Trouble with vision 7
Rash 4
Loss of consciousness/syncope 4
Itching 3

Prevalence and intensity

Adolescents and children are frequently affected in cases of MPI.[8] The hypothesis that those prone to extraversion or neuroticism, or those with low IQ scores, are more likely to be affected in an outbreak of hysterical epidemic has not been consistently supported by research. Bartholomew and Wessely state that it "seems clear that there is no particular predisposition to mass sociogenic illness and it is a behavioural reaction that anyone can show in the right circumstances."[2]

Intense media coverage seems to exacerbate outbreaks.[4][6][8] The illness may also recur after the initial outbreak.[8] John Waller advises that once it is determined that the illness is psychogenic, it should not be given credence by authorities.[6] For example, in the Singapore factory case study, calling in a medicine man to perform an exorcism seemed to perpetuate the outbreak.[9]

Research

Besides the difficulties common to all research involving the social sciences, including a lack of opportunity for controlled experiments, mass sociogenic illness presents special difficulties to researchers in this field. Balaratnasingam and Janca report that the methods for "diagnosis of mass hysteria remain contentious."[4] According to Jones, the effects resulting from MPI "can be difficult to differentiate from [those of] bioterrorism, rapidly spreading infection or acute toxic exposure."[8]

These troubles result from the residual diagnosis of MPI. There is a lack of logic in an argument that proceeds: "There isn't anything, so it must be MPI." It is an example of an argument from ignorance, with ignorance here intended to mean "an absence of contrary evidence". It precludes the notion that an organic factor could have been overlooked (i.e. that there may have been insufficient investigation), or the possibility that the answer may currently be unknown but known at a future point in time. Nevertheless, running an extensive number of tests extends the probability of false positives. Singer, of the Uniformed Schools of Medicine, has summarized the problems with such a diagnosis:[10]

[Y]ou find a group of people getting sick, you investigate, you measure everything you can measure ... and when you still can't find any physical reason, you say "well, there's nothing else here, so let's call it a case of MPI."[10]

Relationship to autism and mirror neurons

Due to the role of the visual and auditory systems in MPI, a link between MPI and mirror neurons has been suggested.[11] In this context, MPI appears as the neurological opposite of autism, caused by an overactive, not underactive, mirror neuron system.[12] This could in turn explain the gender difference bias observed in these two conditions, with autism predominantly affecting males (persons with autism show diminished activity in the mirror neuron system),[13] and MPI predominantly affecting young girls,[14] [15] [16] [17] who appear to have a more sensitive mirror system.[18]

In history

See also: List of mass hysteria cases

Middle Ages

The earliest studied cases linked with epidemic hysteria are the dancing manias of the Middle Ages, including St. John's dance and tarantism. These were supposed to be associated with spirit possession or the bite of the tarantula. Those with dancing mania would dance in large groups, sometimes for weeks at a time. The dancing was sometimes accompanied by stripping, howling, the making of obscene gestures, or even (reportedly) laughing or crying to the point of death. Dancing mania was widespread over Europe.[19]

Between the 15th and 19th centuries, instances of motor hysteria were common in nunneries. The young ladies that made up these convents were sometimes forced there by family. Once accepted, they took vows of chastity and poverty. Their lives were highly regimented and often marked by strict disciplinary action. The nuns would exhibit a variety of behaviors, usually attributed to demonic possession. They would often use crude language and exhibit suggestive behaviors. One convent's nuns would regularly meow like cats.[20] Priests were often called in to exorcise demons.[2]

18th to 21st centuries

In factories

MPI outbreaks occurred in factories following the industrial revolution in England, France, Germany, Italy and Russia[2] as well as the United States and Singapore.

W. H. Phoon, Ministry of Labour in Singapore, gives a case study of six outbreaks of MPI in Singapore factories between 1973 and 1978.[9] They were characterized by (1) hysterical seizures of screaming and general violence, wherein tranquilizers were ineffective (2) trance states, where a worker would claim to be speaking under the influence of a spirit or jinn and (3) frightened spells: some workers complained of unprecedented fear, or of being cold, numb, or dizzy. Outbreaks would subside in about a week. Often a bomoh (medicine man) would be called in to do a ritual exorcism. This technique was not effective and sometimes seemed to exacerbate the MPI outbreak. Females and Malay people were affected disproportionately.[citation needed]

Especially notable is the "June Bug" outbreak:[21] In June 1962, a peak month in factory production, 62 workers at a dressmaking factory in a textile town in the Southern United States[a] experienced symptoms including severe nausea and breaking out on the skin. Most outbreaks occurred during the first shift, where four fifths of the workers were female. Of 62 total outbreaks, 59 were women, some of whom believed they were bitten by bugs from a fabric shipment,[24] so entomologists and others were called in to discover the pathogen, but none was found. Kerchoff coordinated the interview of affected and unaffected workers at the factory and summarizes his findings:

Strain – those affected were more likely to work overtime frequently and provide the majority of the family income. Many were married with children.
Affected persons tended to deny their difficulties. Kerchoff postulates that such were "less likely to cope successfully under conditions of strain."
Results seemed consistent with a model of social contagion. Groups of affected persons tended to have strong social ties.
Kerchoff also links the rapid rate of contagion with the apparent reasonableness of the bug infestation theory and the credence given to it in accompanying news stories.

Stahl and Lebedun[25] describe an outbreak of mass sociogenic illness in the data center of a university town in the United States Midwest in 1974. Ten of 39 workers smelling an unconfirmed "mystery gas" were rushed to a hospital with symptoms of dizziness, fainting, nausea and vomiting. They report that most workers were young women either putting their husbands through school or supplementing the family income. Those affected were found to have high levels of job dissatisfaction. Those with strong social ties tended to have similar reactions to the supposed gas, which only one unaffected woman reported smelling. No gas was detected in subsequent tests of the data center.

In schools

Mass hysteria affected schools in Berry, Alabama, and Miami Beach in 1974, with the former episode taking the form of recurring itches, and the latter initially triggering fears of poison gas (it was traced back to a popular student who happened to be sick with a virus).[26]

Thousands were affected by the spread of a supposed illness in a province of Kosovo in March to June 1990, exclusively affecting ethnic Albanians, most of whom were young adolescents.[27] A wide variety of symptoms were manifested, including headache, dizziness, impeded respiration, weakness/adynamia, burning sensations, cramps, retrosternal/chest pain, dry mouth and nausea. After the illness had subsided, a bipartisan Federal Commission released a document, offering the explanation of psychogenic illness. Radovanovic of the Department of Community Medicine and Behavioural Sciences Faculty of Medicine in Safat, Kuwait, reports:

This document did not satisfy either of the two ethnic groups. Many Albanian doctors believed that what they had witnessed was an unusual epidemic of poisoning. The majority of their Serbian colleagues also ignored any explanation in terms of psychopathology. They suggested that the incident was faked with the intention of showing Serbs in a bad light but that it failed due to poor organization.

Rodovanovic expects that this reported instance of mass sociogenic illness was precipitated by the demonstrated volatile and culturally tense situation in the province.[27]

The Tanganyika laughter epidemic of 1962 was an outbreak of laughing attacks rumored to have occurred in or near the village of Kanshasa on the western coast of Lake Victoria in the modern nation of Tanzania, eventually affecting 14 different schools and over 1,000 people.

On the morning of Thursday 7 October 1965, at a girls' school in Blackburn in England, several girls complained of dizziness.[28][29] Some fainted. Within a couple of hours, 85 girls from the school were rushed by ambulance to a nearby hospital after fainting. Symptoms included swooning, moaning, chattering of teeth, hyperpnea, and tetany. Moss and McEvedy published their analysis of the event about one year later. Their conclusions follow.[28] Their conclusion about the above-average extraversion and neuroticism of those affected is not necessarily typical of MPI:[2]

Clinical and laboratory findings were essentially negative.
Investigations by the public health authorities did not uncover any evidence of pollution of food or air.
The epidemiology of the outbreak was investigated by means of questionnaires administered to the whole school population. It was established that the outbreaks began among the 14-year-olds, but that the heaviest incidence moved to the youngest age groups.
By using the Eysenck Personality Inventory, it was established that, in all age groups, the mean E [extraversion] and N [neuroticism] scores of the affected were higher than those of the unaffected.
The younger girls proved more susceptible, but disturbance was more severe and lasted longer in the older girls.
It was considered that the epidemic was hysterical, that a previous polio epidemic had rendered the population emotionally vulnerable, and that a three-hour parade, producing 20 faints on the day before the first outbreak, had been the specific trigger.
The data collected were thought to be incompatible with organic theories and with the compromise theory of an organic nucleus.
Another possible case occurred in Belgium in June 1999 when people, mainly schoolchildren, became ill after drinking Coca-Cola.[30] In the end, scientists were divided over the scale of the outbreak, whether it fully explains the many different symptoms and the scale to which sociogenic illness affected those involved.[31][32]

A possible outbreak of mass psychogenic illness occurred at Le Roy Junior-Senior High School in 2011, in upstate New York, US, in which multiple students began having symptoms similar to Tourette syndrome. Various health professionals ruled out such factors as Gardasil, drinking water contamination, illegal drugs, carbon monoxide poisoning and various other potential environmental or infectious causes, before diagnosing the students with a conversion disorder and mass psychogenic illness.[33]
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Bill Ryan
16th November 2025, 11:00
Bumping this important thread with a new video from Chris Martenson:

We've Failed Our Youth, and They Have Every Right to Be Angry

https://rumble.com/v71qbr4-weve-failed-our-youth-and-they-have-every-right-to-be-angry.html
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Arcturian108
16th November 2025, 13:49
Bumping this important thread with a new video from Chris Martenson:

We've Failed Our Youth, and They Have Every Right to Be Angry

https://rumble.com/v71qbr4-weve-failed-our-youth-and-they-have-every-right-to-be-angry.html
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I lived in Berkeley, California for 7 years, from 1994 to 2001. The opening images of the Berkeley crowd says to me these are not students, but professional Bezerkleyites, who hate any form of authority, and are powered by Trump Derangement Syndrome. They might be former students, who hang on to their favorite Communist style of living near the university. Many of my friends who are still there are getting a Covid shot every time they travel, and still believe all that garbage.