Vaxx Shedding: how would you know you are affected by it?

[thepainterdoug]

How would anyone know if they aquired shedding from a vaxed person?

I am perfectly healthy and go out to a local bar restaurant on a fairly regular basis. I am probably one of the reare people non vaxed, with strong antibodies since i had covid in JAN 2020.

I go around care free, hug people in crowded rooms. i never wear a mask unless have to going into a food store etc.

in the last six months and only at night, I have noticed while sleeping I am itchy, the middle of my back and under arms etc.
I also get these strange sharp pains in my foot, or toe. Like a zinging pain and I need to rub my feet together to get it to stop.
Its all disturbing my sleep.

Could this have anything to do with shedding?

[Dreamer148]

That's a very good question Doug, one that many of us would like to know. But tell me, how do you know that you had covid?

[lake]

in the last six months and only at night, I have noticed while sleeping I am itchy, the middle of my back and under arms etc.
I also get these strange sharp pains in my foot, or toe. Like a zinging pain and I need to rub my feet together to get it to stop.
Its all disturbing my sleep.

Could this have anything to do with shedding?

May I just say Doug .... you are not a spring chicken and with age comes all manner of new experiences!
It does not need to be any new concept called shedding promoted by the alternative media (although research papers would state that the concept is correct .... will thus still fall into the ideas designed by other ....... and our individual considerations should be our own) .... remember, just three score years and ten.

[avid]

Please regularly wash your bedding with non-bio washing products, have a relaxing bath or shower afore going to bed, drink camomile tea etc etc
Todays’ werid psycho environment will disturb your settling to sleep, read or watch something diverting, I do a sudoku, or watch boring tv if I wake in the night. Drink loads of water - good excuse to go to loo then settle down again. Get up early to greet the day, watch sunrise, read here, and plan to clean up or go shopping for your main meal. Divert from the narrative, sleep well :heart:

[thepainterdoug]

These are very good points. And yes I know Im not a youngster, but these are strange. As somewhat wise as I am , im also quite stupid in application. I often have the computer in the bed and fall asleep with it or the phone as well. Perhaps its the wifi? duhh

I know I had what ever the flu was in Jan 2020 that had the symptoms of covid as described by the 5 guys in the hockey room that all had it at the same time.
lost smell taste appetite and so on. some of the guys got tested + , I never got tested, period.

in my mind I got over it and now had antibodies as to the way our bodies work.

besides all, If anyone hears what shedding symptoms are ?, unless all BS please share
d

[pueblo]

Just from personal experience I have a few unvaxxed friends who have reported cold/flu like symptoms after being around vaxxed people. I seem to get heart palpitations/tachycardia type symptoms but I cannot say 100% they are from being around the vaxxed.

If shedding/transfer is real is seems to be most prevalent in the first couple of weeks after the jab.

[thepainterdoug]

One of our many problems is separating issues that are now so conflated. Remember, there used to be things like, colds, allergies, flus , and a number of various sicknessess. Now they would have us all believe its covid covid ****ing covid for everything.
Being overwhelmed with info,distractions, wifi etc people have short focus and memories.

And it was soooo easy to do with the supply of normie,s out there.

I dont know how this will be stopped.

[mojo]

Hi Painter Doug,

This is an important issue to bring up because the cabal that's behind the jab will resort to other less intrusive means for the transmitting their bioweapon to others that did not take the jab. Not just through shedding but by aerosol or through skin or food crops. I have stayed on a protocol, of every 3 days using Ivermectin because it not only kills the virus but truly kills parasites in the body. The Hydra Valgaris thats found in the jab could be eliminated by this regimine. Also the other thread like organisms (Morgellans) found inside people might be killed as well. I was listening to Clay Clark's presentations and a speaker mentioned that the Corporations can not patent things found in nature so their ultimate plan is to change mankind to be apart from natural man through gene editing and therefore be able to PATENT HUMANS. Sounds nuts... but look what their doing already. Anyway Doug, I have used Ivermectin for some time for the precautions mentioned.

[yelik]

Viral Shedding
I’ve been watching the docuseries by covidrevealed which is very professionally made where world renowned scientist, researchers and doctors explain the truth about what is really going and is perhaps worse than we think.


As I understand experiments have taken place in Australia where self dissemination vaccines were tested on mice colonies whereby this gene therapy treatment targeted mice ovaries to sterilise them. This could also be used for population control and indeed has been used by Gates in Africa and Asia through polio and other helpful genocide programs he so kindly funds.

They were testing what percentage was needed to be vaccinated in order wipe out the colony.

People have been reporting that an unvaxxed person that is around the vaxxed are getting sick, tired but mainly women.

Experiments with vaccine backed genetic shedding have advised protecting people from the vaccinated.

At the moment it appears to be presently unknown whether genetic or viral shedding is infection to others. But it looks to me fairly likely, shedding can technically occur and be spread by coughing or even brushing against a persons skin.

Also my son recently felt extremly tired last week when he came home from school one day so I let him rest for a day. This is unlike him since I've never known him be ill and he's 12 now. Some of his friends are vaxxed so its possible he had a mild reaction but it could just be related to the winter months.

Personally I haven't noticed anything having been to numerous parties where the vast majority are vaxxed, I always say that is was nice knowing them, lol

You might catch this summary episode of key points from the whole series if you are quick
https://vrevealed.com/c19/webathon

[guenonsbitch]

I also have had some symptoms after being around vaxxed. I live in Mexico in a village where hardly anyone is vaxxed, so I'm in a pretty controlled environment. When seeing my parents for four days (fully vaxxed) I had the strangest skin rash unlike any I've had before. It was like small white bumps all over my stomach and upper thighs. I also had this tension headache that felt unique. I had the same tension headache around my partners fully vaxxed mother for a week, and then once again this past week with a vaxxed friend while in Mexico City. At first I chalked it up to the city environment, as I didn't know she'd gotten her shots. Then when she confessed she'd been sick for three weeks since her second dose it all made sense. I popped an ivermectin that night and my two day long headache was gone in the morning. is this shedding, some sort of frequency, psychological? Who knows, but something definitely seems to be happening for me.

[Alecs]

Hi Doug. I'll share this...

I experienced a severe headache in February 2021 that came on very quickly; it felt as if I could have a stroke any second. Not only was the headache really unusual for me, but also it was odd that Advils didn't relieve the pain. It came with no fever, no cough, no loss of taste or smell, no change in pulse or oxygen level, and blood pressure is always low...

Only about a day or so later the pain subsided to a very mild level, but it persisted actually for months as it occasionally "moved around" so to speak in that general top head area. I recall one day it felt as if a dart of heat (or mild pain) instantly travelled about 4 inches.

The key is that this mild persistent head pain went away upon injesting ivermectin at recommended dosage over several days.

I've not been jabbed. I was concerned enough to get screened in April 2021 for cartoid artery disease, abdominal mortic aneursym, and pheipheral arterial disease. Results were 'normal'. And, over those months I did occasionally experience sharp toe pain.

I questioned whether this was an affect of shedding; I have no other expanation as it's so unusual for me.

[mizo]

I've regularly get itchy dotted- rashes around my wrist when ever I have been around my jabbed friends, it's a similar rash as being stung by nettles. I use tea-tree oil to soothe the itch.

[wondering]

Doug, Maybe we will run out of Normies!!! 😂😂😂 It could happen. 🤞🤞🤞🤞

[Jad]

I was dating a double Vaxxed woman recently and we went to Mexico for a trip. This was in September and the weather was sunny and warm, but I noticed during my stay with her that week that I was developing weird symptoms like congested nose and feeling tired as if I’m coming down with a cold or something. She was feeling totally normal. I was also discharging a lot of mucus from my nose. When we got back to Michigan, I felt much better cause we weren’t together 24/7 like we were in Mexico. I can’t say for sure that it was from shedding but I definitely noticed something was off with me.

[thepainterdoug]

thanks all, I guess the question is, when is a cigar just a cigar? we all got these things in the past. Headaches and so on. When is it just that , or now this?

All of this is helpful and I felt a conversation worth starting. We should continue to compare notes
thanks!

[Sérénité]

Hi Doug I’ve posted this elsewhere recently as an update from earlier this year, I’ll try keep it short as I do tend to digress.

Since February this year I’ve had 3 ‘episodes’ of illness. Symptoms not usual for me ever. I have a good health connection to know and understand my own body and these things don’t make sense to me.

Every one of these episodes has lasted about a month and has started immediately after being around my mother having had the first, second and now the booster jab.

Each time has been exactly the same. Same effects, same time frame.

I’ve been fine and healthy for over 5 months since the last episode and, un be known known to me, was with my mother again a few weeks ago…in the days directly after her having the booster and it’s happened again. I’m just coming to the end of it now.

My kids and partner aren’t jabbed so apart from my mother I’m really not exposed to anyone for any length of time or close contact. I was hoping it was all just coincidence but I know for sure now it isn’t.

This spike protein, in my honest opinion is 100% shedding to others. I believe it’s maybe at its worse the greater the exposure time to someone and the more recently they have been vaccinated.
It does seem to slowly ease and after a month I’m feeling fit and healthy again so I’m hoping it’s not a permanent issue.

My partner lives with his father and older daughter who are jabbed. For him it seems to be temporarily affecting his immune system. I now know when one of them has upgraded to the latest loyalty shot without even having to ask now, as within days he comes down with a bad dose of man flu that wipes him out for a good week or two.

So maybe just like the ‘vaccine’ side effects, this is affecting each person in differing ways?

I’ve noticed the difference this last time as I’d run out of pine needles at first. I’ve been drinking loads since I got my new batch and have been making my own quinen juice the last few days as I hear that helps with the spike protein damage.

Follow your gut instinct and listen to your body Doug. We instinctively know when something is not the norm for us and patterns will emerge that will make it become clear what’s the causation.

They have the capabilities to use shedding vaccinations already, to assume they’re not already in use to some extent is probably wishful thinking.
I hope your side effects wane soon and you’re feeling better quickly 💫

[meat suit]

thing is, we are in this now...
we will get exposed to shedding like we will get exposed to anything else when engaging with the world.
it is important to stay positive, keep engaging with people and then detox if we get hit.
I pop an IVM when i think i may have had a big exposure like a full on lots of people and loose personal boundaries party. I take vit d , vit c and zinc every day. also 'clean slat'e a zeolite product.
and I treat myself with kambo every month or so.

I freely engage with all people. it is important to stand strong.

[Brigantia]

This is a very interesting thread; it's made me think about how tired I've been feeling recently. I work on a shop floor around quite a lot of people - the majority jabbed, probably, seeing as there are so many normies round here - and I'm feeling more tired now even though I don't work past 9.30 pm than I did when working into the early hours of the morning. I also had a cold a month ago, the first in 2 years since I had what seems in retrospect to have been Covid in October 2019.

To save my small and precious supply of Ivermectin, I'm going to start the digestive bitters protocol that I mentioned in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116089-Ivermectin&p=1468951&viewfull=1#post1468951) to get rid of anything that I may be picking up from others.

[TravelerJim]

It seems nasal sprays with certain ingredients are good to use before being in a crowd and then coming back from being in a crowd. Xclear comes to mind.

A good friend experienced a rash on his arm after having lunch with a fellow who had just vaxxed, and it was the arm closest to the fellow as they sat for lunch. I am sure shedding is real.

I am sure shedding took place but when I look at the people putting all genocide together, I am sure they changing their formulas as their plans and the data coming back calls for. We will all have to be clever and able to change our protocols quickly.

Peace to you Doug.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I might get the sniffles on occasion. It usually will last a day or two at most. During that period the mucous membranes release an over abundance of mucous to protect the nasal passages. I don't know about others but I do not consider myself sick if I get the sniffles. It just means my immune system has sounded the alert and is temporarily increasing its front line defences. No need to interfere. The body's intelligence is extensive...and knows best.

I like the idea of the nasal spray, though. But by the time it is used the virus is already invading the throat and bronchial lining...the increased natural mucous production prevents that from happening. By the way that mucous is full of very powerful immune system killer cells and other very effective scavengers.

[avid]

Plus a wee squirt or two, and a gargle, then maybe swallow, of my freshly brewed colloidal silver solution. Still praying it works atop of my D3’s, B’s, zinc, C’s, etc etc. plus fresh air. Oh, plus a plethora or Clif High’s recommended stuff if the need arises, and of course our special supplements courtesy of all here. Keep safe everyone :muscle:

[Ernie Nemeth]

I might get the sniffles on occasion. It usually will last a day or two at most. During that period the mucous membranes release an over abundance of mucous to protect the nasal passages. I don't know about others but I do not consider myself sick if I get the sniffles. It just means my immune system has sounded the alert and is temporarily increasing its front line defences. No need to interfere. The body's intelligence is extensive...and knows best.

I like the idea of the nasal spray, though. But by the time it is used the virus is already invading the throat and bronchial lining...the increased natural mucous production prevents that from happening. By the way that mucous is full of very powerful immune system killer cells and other very effective scavengers.

Correction for emphasis: On the interview with Joe Rogan (40 min mark), Dr. McCullough asserts mouth sprays are very effective to reduce nasal load of virus.

[Sue (Ayt)]

I like the idea of the nasal spray, though. But by the time it is used the virus is already invading the throat and bronchial lining...the increased natural mucous production prevents that from happening. By the way that mucous is full of very powerful immune system killer cells and other very effective scavengers.

Correction for emphasis: On the interview with Joe Rogan (40 min mark), Dr. McCullough asserts mouth sprays are very effective to reduce nasal load of virus.

Yes! Just get a cheap nasal spray container, pop off the top part, dump it, and refill it with distilled water and a drop or two of iodine, hydrogen peroxide, colloidal silver, or your weapon of preference. I have been doing this for a while, and I keep a spray in each vehicle and one in my purse. I try to remember to spray it before being around groups. Sometimes even squirt some on my hands after, or in my ears. I was happy to hear Dr. McCullough confirm that this was an excellent viral preventative.

[Lilyofthestars]

I didn't realize "Vaccine shedding" was a thing until recent months pouring over other forums on the web. Glad to see its being discussed here. I had become privy to the fact my body was "changing" and having issues I've never had before about five months ago. The odd thing is, I was having a lot of the same symptoms I had read that Vaccinated individuals were having after being vaccinated. To name a few very serious symptoms; Menstrual cycles, for starters. Out of nowhere I began having my cycles once every 2-3 weeks. This has been going on for about five months now. I am not vaccinated. This also seems to be an issue with more Vaccinated women than is being reported. I'm going to assume that a vast majority of women experiencing this who are vaccinated (or unvaccinated), are probably not calling up their doctors right away to report it. And even if they were, how much of this makes it to official national statistics? Doctors will rationalize away just about every symptom and try to say it has nothing to do with the Vaccination, it seems. Most women will just "wait it out" to see if it gets better. Some will get medical attention, but I reckon millions of women would just silently deal with it...

Since I knew I couldn't get any accurate data on how many Vaccinated or Unvaccinated women are experiencing this, for my own sake of seeking out the truth, I put out a "Poll" on Reddit many months ago, which later got removed by Reddit for spreading "disinformation and lies". Luckily, 140+ women voted before it was removed. For women, the question was simple. Were they having irregular cycles? The four answers available were: "Yes, and Vaccinated", "No, and Vaccinated, "Yes, and NOT Vaccinated", and "No, and NOT Vaccinated". Of the 100's who voted, most Vaccinated women voted "YES", and just as many Unvaccinated women voted "YES" as well. There were very few people who said "No" on the Vaccinated or Unvaccinated status. We're talking in the single digits. So 90% of these women, vaccinated and unvaccinated, admitted to having irregular cycles currently. Now, I know this is just a matter of 140 votes or so... But honestly, with that sort of overwhelming response to "YES", I can only imagine what the true figures/statistics are nationwide, or worldwide for that matter. It was shocking to me.

Before I put out this poll, I suspected what was happening to me was because of being around Vaccinated people through some sort of shedding before I read about it anywhere.

Other symptoms I've had to deal with are intense heart problems. I'll note that I'm 37 and very in shape from a lifetime of outdoor adventure and exploration. There is some history of heart issues in my mother's line - but that's widely due to her personal lifestyle choices. I am a person who hikes and cycles often, and whom essentially keeps up with a very healthy diet. 90% vegetarian. I don't even touch sugar and avoid it like the plague.. About one month ago my heart began having irregular heart beats... Not just once or twice, but literally for 8-9 hours out of the day which continued through most of the night. This experience went on for about 4-5 days. Its honestly all a blur to me now as I experienced a lot of damage to my whole bodily system as a result. I collapsed multiple times and refused to go to the hospital. I simply did not trust the hospital and truly believed they would likely cause my death. I refuse to be nothing more than another "Unvaccinated" statistic on the nightly news - just another "Anti vaxxer" moron who died from her stupidity of refusing the Vax. My heart essentially experienced the worst pain of my life and I was near paralyzed for days from these constant irregular heart beats. There were also times where my heart felt like it was about to burst out of my body, as if it wasn't fitting inside of my chest cavity. I now know what genuine heart inflammation feels like. It was very painful.

Being an self-taught herbalist, I whipped up together a specialized recipe from sheer intuition. I believe I healed myself through these recipes and am back to hiking and normal activities. I have multiple herbal recipes I have come up with that have saved my life time and time again.. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'd be more than happy to share.

Other symptoms I believe come from Vaccine shedding are rashes, itching, and in general horrible and debilitating fatigue. Also, I have had persistent lung issues that I successfully keep at bay with my herbal concoctions, but the symptoms always seem to resurface a month later. I have tried to get my hands on Ivermectin but have had no success. My understanding is that Covid-19 has genetic tampering/editing that is similar to HIV. It seems that even Chinese doctors were reporting this as early as January of 2020.

[Bill Ryan]

I have multiple herbal recipes I have come up with that have saved my life time and time again.. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'd be more than happy to share. Please do!

:sun: :flower::flower::flower::sun:

On a Members Only thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?114-Members-Only) if you feel you need any privacy. And/or you'll find there are quite a number of threads (in different places, but often in Health and Wellness (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?127-Health-and-Wellness) or Alternative Medicine (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?19-Alternative-Medicine)) that discuss all kinds of 'home remedies', and we do have some very skilled and experienced members here.

[Lilyofthestars]

I have to remember this is not a place where one will get "Banned" for sharing herbal advice which is therapeutic to Covid or Vaccines! I still feel nervous even discussing these things. I worry that eventually our internet histories will be used against us in five years time when they're dealing with the last of the population who refused Vaccination. I'll head over to one of those threads later and add the recipes to the list. I've reviewed a lot of "home remedy" advice over the months. As it turns out, my concoctions are the most effective remedy I have found thus far.

[happyuk]

I have to remember this is not a place where one will get "Banned" for sharing herbal advice which is therapeutic to Covid or Vaccines! I still feel nervous even discussing these things. I worry that eventually our internet histories will be used against us in five years time when they're dealing with the last of the population who refused Vaccination. I'll head over to one of those threads later and add the recipes to the list. I've reviewed a lot of "home remedy" advice over the months. As it turns out, my concoctions are the most effective remedy I have found thus far.

Go for it Lily. I know exactly how you feel about getting banned from mainstream places. It's like having a door slammed in your face.
Do you also grow your own herbs? As a keen gardener who is planning to increase my yield of herbs this year I would be happy to hear about any insights, tips, techniques etc you have.

[mojo]

This is such an important area of discussion. It seems the globalist cabal is determined that people get nano particles & graphene oxide and possibly engineered bio-organisms into their bodies. Fauci & Collins were really focusing on Ivermectin and I think its more about Ivermectins ability to kill parasites. Remember all the sarcasm of it being a horse dewormer and now to think they are giving parasites to people in the shot. There was also rumors that graphene oxide was found in a certain vitamin D3 supplement. We likely have many of these particles ingested already and shedding is just another way. And we know they will not stop with a vax because all people have to get the bioweapon. I really hope that the white hats have a remedy already to go. We havent even mentioned adding these to the food & water supply. These people will stop at nothing so the more people working on getting rid of the poison in our systems the better we will be at fighting back.

[mojo]

So important to hear, at 37:45 minutes the Doctor explains that Ivermectin kills the living organisms in the vax.
vps0cc

[Pam]

I didn't realize "Vaccine shedding" was a thing until recent months pouring over other forums on the web. Glad to see its being discussed here. I had become privy to the fact my body was "changing" and having issues I've never had before about five months ago. The odd thing is, I was having a lot of the same symptoms I had read that Vaccinated individuals were having after being vaccinated. To name a few very serious symptoms; Menstrual cycles, for starters. Out of nowhere I began having my cycles once every 2-3 weeks. This has been going on for about five months now. I am not vaccinated. This also seems to be an issue with more Vaccinated women than is being reported. I'm going to assume that a vast majority of women experiencing this who are vaccinated (or unvaccinated), are probably not calling up their doctors right away to report it. And even if they were, how much of this makes it to official national statistics? Doctors will rationalize away just about every symptom and try to say it has nothing to do with the Vaccination, it seems. Most women will just "wait it out" to see if it gets better. Some will get medical attention, but I reckon millions of women would just silently deal with it...

Since I knew I couldn't get any accurate data on how many Vaccinated or Unvaccinated women are experiencing this, for my own sake of seeking out the truth, I put out a "Poll" on Reddit many months ago, which later got removed by Reddit for spreading "disinformation and lies". Luckily, 140+ women voted before it was removed. For women, the question was simple. Were they having irregular cycles? The four answers available were: "Yes, and Vaccinated", "No, and Vaccinated, "Yes, and NOT Vaccinated", and "No, and NOT Vaccinated". Of the 100's who voted, most Vaccinated women voted "YES", and just as many Unvaccinated women voted "YES" as well. There were very few people who said "No" on the Vaccinated or Unvaccinated status. We're talking in the single digits. So 90% of these women, vaccinated and unvaccinated, admitted to having irregular cycles currently. Now, I know this is just a matter of 140 votes or so... But honestly, with that sort of overwhelming response to "YES", I can only imagine what the true figures/statistics are nationwide, or worldwide for that matter. It was shocking to me.

Before I put out this poll, I suspected what was happening to me was because of being around Vaccinated people through some sort of shedding before I read about it anywhere.

Other symptoms I've had to deal with are intense heart problems. I'll note that I'm 37 and very in shape from a lifetime of outdoor adventure and exploration. There is some history of heart issues in my mother's line - but that's widely due to her personal lifestyle choices. I am a person who hikes and cycles often, and whom essentially keeps up with a very healthy diet. 90% vegetarian. I don't even touch sugar and avoid it like the plague.. About one month ago my heart began having irregular heart beats... Not just once or twice, but literally for 8-9 hours out of the day which continued through most of the night. This experience went on for about 4-5 days. Its honestly all a blur to me now as I experienced a lot of damage to my whole bodily system as a result. I collapsed multiple times and refused to go to the hospital. I simply did not trust the hospital and truly believed they would likely cause my death. I refuse to be nothing more than another "Unvaccinated" statistic on the nightly news - just another "Anti vaxxer" moron who died from her stupidity of refusing the Vax. My heart essentially experienced the worst pain of my life and I was near paralyzed for days from these constant irregular heart beats. There were also times where my heart felt like it was about to burst out of my body, as if it wasn't fitting inside of my chest cavity. I now know what genuine heart inflammation feels like. It was very painful.

Being an self-taught herbalist, I whipped up together a specialized recipe from sheer intuition. I believe I healed myself through these recipes and am back to hiking and normal activities. I have multiple herbal recipes I have come up with that have saved my life time and time again.. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'd be more than happy to share.

Other symptoms I believe come from Vaccine shedding are rashes, itching, and in general horrible and debilitating fatigue. Also, I have had persistent lung issues that I successfully keep at bay with my herbal concoctions, but the symptoms always seem to resurface a month later. I have tried to get my hands on Ivermectin but have had no success. My understanding is that Covid-19 has genetic tampering/editing that is similar to HIV. It seems that even Chinese doctors were reporting this as early as January of 2020.

A warm welcome to the forum Lily, I am also very interested in the use of herbs, would love to hear of any use of herbs..

[Lilyofthestars]

@HappyUK and to others whom inquired,
Yes, I have grown a lot of my own herbs in the past. Many rare cultivars and heirlooms I might add. I ran a little apothecary for years but recently had to shut it down due to health struggles and the stresses of life. My current living situation doesn't allow for the gardens I use to have. Its been very depressing. I now use Pacific Botanicals here in Oregon for the best quality plant matter, they grow most of their herbs instead of importing them. They have the highest quality herbs I've found in the United States commercially. I'll post my recipes over on the Alternative Healing section or other and will "update" this post to let you know when its posted. :heart:

[7alon]

Hi guys, I am immune compromised and whenever I go around people that are jabbed, I do feel quite sick. I feel weak, I get more pains/inflammation.. and I feel sick in my stomach. I take quinine to remedy it. You can just make it from grapefruit, lemon or orange peels. I would say grapefruit is the most concentrated from my experience.

[mojo]

Bumping and hope to start more dialogue about shedding. Am I wrong to think this might be a bigger future problem with unvaxed picking up organisms from vaxed people? Anyone hear of a way that would be a guard against this other than staying away from vaxed people? Maybe Im being paranoid but I keep hearing stories and this one below brought it up again. I posted my concern in the Ivermectin thread because I believe Ivermectin is useful in this regard. When a person visits the tropics and there is a concern about picking up parasites what do doctors give them? I hope shedding is not anything but...

v11rco5

[shaberon]

So far, I think shedding probably is a "thing", it may have to do with the onset of inexplicable Hepatitis on multiple continents. It probably is a health risk to be sending injected people into public. Whether directly from the serum or in whatever weird way it makes them amplify the disease itself.

[pueblo]

"‘It looks like the messenger RNA IS transferring from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated" ~ Dr Peter McCullough

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[mojo]

Anyone notice that the people that have taken the jab dont want to learn or talk more about what they injected? Why is that? Now more evidence to support the nano tech is found in other things we ingest or take.

Where are the scientists that are for the good of humanity and where is the cure that many thousands of people will be seeking? Where is the public voice (other than truthseekers)alerting the masses and how to protect from this tech? Because we know now it's not just in the jab.
At the 21 minute mark there is a photo you should see possible fiber optic connection in the nano tech and the next image shows similar tech found in a Novocain type dental injection.
v1y3c1y

[norman]

This could belong in any one of a several threads here


This DISTURBING Theory About 5G & the Vax Makes Too Much Sense — Dr. Robert Young Interview
Man in America - Published December 13, 2022

https://rumble.com/v20gpha-this-disturbing-theory-about-5g-and-the-vax-makes-too-much-sense.html


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[norman]

This could belong in any one of several threads here


This DISTURBING Theory About 5G & the Vax Makes Too Much Sense — Dr. Robert Young Interview
Man in America - Published December 13, 2022



A year or 2 ago I was listening to someone explain (at a time when it was almost impossible to get people to take the idea of a vax/covid/5G link seriously ) that with frequencies as carrier waves and coded signals carried/modulated in those waves, it's perfectly doable to create any kind of "disease" state they want. They can dial up any disease symptom. They just select it in a menu and bingo the person has that disease and gets processed as such. The same equipment and software can make that same person have any one of many disease symptoms.

In that discussion, it was suggested that the PTB will use that versatility to disguise what they are up to by broadening the spectrum of people's ailments.

We hear talk of a coming second pandemic. They may be thinking of a 5G induced outbreak of "disease" not a contagious virus. If a new 'pandemic' arrives, we need to pay special attention to where the victims are located in relation to technology capable of radiating them with specific frequencies.

[pueblo]

Massive fetal deaths? My 1st cousin lost her baby last week at 20 weeks.

- COVID Vaccine shedding can have shocking effects on unvaccinated Women's menstruation
- "Massive menstrual irregularities."
- James A Thorp, MD, speaks out to Reiner Fuellmich

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Full panel discussion...

https://video.icic-net.com/w/u2QoxgbZpTBLyZMJZgKNqB

[jaybee]

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Diamond - from the sister duo Diamond and Silk died recently aged 51 - which is such a shame and a tragedy not just for her family but for many, many people because of the political work she did with her sister...

Silk talks here to Alex Jones about Diamonds death.... beginning @3:20...

@4:50.... "Diamond was NOT vaxxed - she was not vaxxed - but her body mimicked all the adverse affects from a person that had been shedded on by a vaccinated individual...."

so Silk is saying that Diamond was shedded on BY a shedded on individual - not directly from a vaxxed person and explains why she believes this to be the case...


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EXCLUSIVE: Silk of 'Diamond & Silk' Releases New Powerful Information

Mar 21, 2023

[Philippe]

One can read so many horror stories over the last year. But after hearing from this beautiful and very alive person called Diamond how and why her beloved sister went away I must express my deep compassion for what she lives thru.

[gini]

Shedding vaccine material? - Investigation Part 2: exosomes in vaxxed, exosome vaccines -Premiered Mar 24, 2023
Get ready for the latest installment of our groundbreaking multi-video series! We're diving deep into the burning question: can vaccine material be shed through breath? In this episode, we explore a riveting study on the circulating exosomes containing Spike proteins found in vaccinated individuals. Could this biological material actually stimulate the immune system? Plus, we'll give you the inside scoop on the development of COVID-19 vaccines using exosomes as a delivery vehicle. -Ow63watUUSA-----Alarming to read so many testymonies from victims of shedding in the comments!

[gini]

Spike shedding mechanism explored (from Livestream Q&A #168)

DarkHorse Podcast Clips
Apr 18, 2023--8 min--7IwPMIVviqM

[Ernie Nemeth]

I was just thinking about the role of the virus, and what it is. I'm sure this has already been considered and I am just a little late to the party but...

This is just a hypothesis so I'll leave out all the 'maybe's, 'imo's, and it 'seems'es.


The virus is a snippet of the genome of a species' DNA. It is either an aberration or an intended result. Modern medicine considers it an aberration.
What purpose could it serve if it is in fact a response to some need of the body?

A virus can cause a permanent change in the DNA or it can cause specific alterations to cell processes.
Disregarding the role of the mitochondria, which in modern medicine is still mostly considered 'junk' DNA, viruses seem to concentrate their efforts in this environment. It is how a virus can alter cell activity.

A virus is the means by which an organism can actually alter its programming, directly or indirectly, to respond to a need of the body.

How this process works is unknown. Since the virus alters the DNA itself it is logical to assume that it is not the DNA that is consulted in this process. Yet what if the idea of DNA is not what modern medicine concludes it is?

Consider an assembly of data points such that the meaning is embedded in the manner of the grouping. The assembly is the information - in that particular formation and no other, both in time and space. A sort of logical train or predictive logic set that can self-correct in response to damage or as an intended result.

If DNA is not a linear program but such a data trail, one that can be explored rather than executed, it could explain how a virus works.

A pressure from the environment causes the process to begin when a certain threshold is reached, and a number of other criteria are satisfied. It is a chemical dance, both organic and inorganic, combined with processes modern medicine has no idea exist and properties of reality modern physics have never encountered. The DNA is prepared for access. Data is entered and processed. The result is a virus...

The answer is the virus.

The virus is then produced by cells commandeered for that purpose. The intention is to provide the required balance to bring harmony back between the body and the environment.

In many cases this requires an exchange of information across the members of the species, which is also facilitated by the virus, fed back into the DNA analysis feed-back loop, and further modified if needs be. This process continues until the virus is no longer needed and the cells creating them are destroyed or repurposed.

So, what do you think?:
The virus as the real time messenger of information needed across the members of the species to maintain health, viability, and balance through harmony with the environment.
Conclusion:
As we pollute that environment with more and more toxic elements the body must respond with more and more radical interventions that taken together make it look as though the viruses are the culprits.
And now we have molecular biologists who think they know enough to interfere in that process...

[onawah]

EDTA CHELATION WORKS (to counteract VAXX shedding to the unVaxxed)

THERE IS HOPE - EDTA CHELATION WORKS and What Really IS COVID???
DEC 20, 2022
ANA MARIA MIHALCEA, MD, PHD
Dr. Ana’s Newsletter
https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/there-is-hope-edta-chelation-works

This is not about recovery for someone who's had the Vaxx, but for someone who was unVaxxed, but shed upon.
It's shocking to see how much damage can be done simply from shedding.

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100x: Ribbon structures and Rouleaux formation everywhere.

I had a young unvaccinated patient in his 30’s come see me in November. He had just had “Covid” less than three weeks ago and was feeling fatigued, had brain fog, couldn’t sleep. He had taken full course of Ivermectin and the usual supplements, Quercetin, Zinc, Vitamin D and C. I looked at his blood with my Darkfield Microscope. These images is what I found. I hope those people who dismiss Drs Kaufman, Baileys, Cowan, Corbett, and Christine Massey take a look at this. I predict that Live Blood Analysis could settle the “There is no Virus” debate. What if “Covid 19 “it is Hydrogel/Graphene/ Synthetic Biology/ Artificial Intelligence Poisoning?

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200x: Huge Ribbon Structures
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100x: more Ribbon Structures
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100x: more huge Ribbon Structures
200x: imagine I saw all of this in only one drop of blood. How much is in 6 liters?
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400x: Up close Ribbon Structures, fibrin aggregates in background

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400x: All the blood was in Rouleaux - I could not find normal blood anywhere

He was started on a nutritional program and he did IV EDTA Chelation twice a week. We checked his blood in a month. There were no structures seen and Rouleaux was resolved. He is feeling excellent. See below:

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200x: no fibrin, no Ribbon structures seen in the whole blood drop

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200x: no Rouleaux seen

This is one case. I have many similar to this with peoples blood being cleared of these structures in as little as one or two EDTA Chelation IV’s. I am just reminding people, that the answers are in the blood and solutions exist. It is a huge hopeful experience for people to be shocked at how bad their blood looks, and then to see it restored after getting the right treatment.

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Literature Review of EDTA Chelation
Dr. Ana’s Newsletter
ANA MARIA MIHALCEA, MD, PHD
MAR 24, 2023
https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/literature-review-on-edta-chelation

Slide Courtesy: The Trial to Assess Chelation Therapy (TACT) Initial Results Gervasio A. Lamas MD Chairman of Medicine Mount Sinai Medical Center Miami Beach FL Chief, Columbia University Division of Cardiology at Mount Sinai Professor of Medicine Columbia University Medical Center

EDTA Chelation has been around for a over half a century, and has been successfully used by trained physicians. Recently, some doctors have been questioning my reports that EDTA Chelation is a beneficial therapeutic for the toxic metal contamination from vaccines and environmental sources - as well as my observed resolution of micro clotting in live blood analysis and clearing of live blood samples of the “Hydrogel Graphene” Ribbon structures seen. Additionally, I have seen significant clinical symptomatic improvements with my combination therapies including EDTA Chelation, anti aging and neurogenesis enhancing peptides like Epithalon, Selank and GHK Copper, Methylene Blue, Plasminex ( sister to Nattokinase), nitric oxide supplementation, Humic and Fulvic Acid, NAC, DMG, high dose Vitamin C, full nutritional supplementation, Hydrosol/ Colloidal Gold, alkaline diet and more depending on the patients. I have seen remarkable and consistent clearing of the blood and resolution of rouleaux and micro clotting in all patients treated within 1-2 infusions administered. Additionally consistent clinical improvements in blood pressure values, improved renal function, improved energy, decreased shortness of breath, improved mental clarity, reversal of ANA ( anti-nuclear antibody - marker of autoimmune disease) and lowering of abnormally elevated D-Dimers.

EDTA Chelation therapy has been attacked in the United States for decades by the FDA and the medical establishment. Studies are hard to find but have been present for the last century. I highly recommend “A Textbook on EDTA Chelation Therapy” edited by Elmer Cranton, MD with a foreword of double Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling, PhD. (An additional excellent book is Bypassing Bypass by Dr. Elmer Cranton, MD). I would like to cite a few studies reported in this textbook, and you may find the topics applicable to current C19 shot side effects, Long Covid and shedding induced symptoms. Dear colleagues, please take another look at this remarkable treatment. Training courses are available through the American College for the Advancement of Medicine www.acam.org.

Mechanisms of action for EDTA:

increased arterial diameter by 10% or more by reduced metallic cross linkages and improved elasticity of arterial tissue

preventing pathological peroxidation of lipid cell membranes, improving active cell transport functions and improving cellular ability to maintain normal cross membrane gradients of sodium, potassium, magnesium metabolites and humoral factors

improving microcirculation by direct action on endothelial basement membranes

reducing blood viscosity and increasing erythrocyte flexibility

reducing the rate of atheromatous plaque formation, allowing regression through natural healing.

reducing platelet aggregation

reducing lead and other toxic metals in the body

Note: An increase of 10% in arterial diameter in plaque filled vessel with turbulent flow is more than enough to double the flow of blood ( Pouiselle’s Law)

It has been proven that EDTA Chelation Therapy is capable of exerting beneficial effects by improving mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation, enhancing the efficiency of cell respiration, even in the presence of compromised blood flow and diminished oxygen.

Peng, CF, Kane JJ, Murphy ML, Staub KD. Abnormal mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation of ischemic myocardium reversed by calcium chelating agents. J Mol Cel Cardiol 1977;9:897-908

10 year follow up of 59 patients treated with EDTA Chelation therapy showed a 90% reduction in the incidence of cancer, when compared with 231 control patients. Statistically significant.

Blumer W, Reich T. Leaded gasoline- a cause for cancer. Environmental International. 1980;3:465-71

15 patients with well documented impairment of cerebral blood flow were studied utilizing the isotope technetium 99m. A new technique for the objective measurement of abnormalities and for measuring improvement as a result of intravenous treatment with disodium EDTA chelation therapy is described for the first time. A highly significant improvement (p=0.0005) in cerebral blood flow occurred following approximately 20 intravenous infusions of disodium EDTA. All 15 patients improved clinically, including one with little or no improvement in cerebral blood flow. EDTA chelates and removes aluminum as well as calcium.

H Richard Casdorph, Md, PhD EDTA Chelation Therapy: Efficacy in Brain Disorders pp142 “A Textbook on EDTA Chelation Therapy” edited by Elmer Cranton, MD

28- months retrospective analysis of 2870 patients with documented atherosclerosis and other degeneration age- associated diseases who were treated with intravenous disodium magnesium EDTA chelation therapy. Marked improvement occurred in 76.9% and good improvement in 17% of treated patients with ischemic heart disease. Marked improvement occurred in 91 % and good improvement occurred in 8% of patients treated with peripheral vascular disease and intermittent claudication. In patients with other cerebrovascular and other degenerative cerebral diseases ( like dementia), 24% had marked improvement and 30% had good improvement. Of four patients with scleroderma, 3 had marked improvement and 1 had good improvement. 75% of all patients had marked improvement in symptoms of vascular origin. Independent of pathology, 89% of all treated patients had marked or good improvement.

Efrain Olszewer MD, James Carter MD EDTA Chelation Therapy: A Retrospective Study of 2870 Patients. J Adv Med 1989;2:197-211

Retrospective study EDTA chelation in 470 patients with peripheral vascular disease. Improvement 80-91%. Of 92 patients referred for surgical intervention only 10 required ultimate surgery saving an estimated 3 Million Dollars of insurance money. No adverse effects over 6 years.

Hancke C, Flythe K. EDTA Manipulered Ugeskr Laaeger 1992;154:20013-2215

139 private practice patients with chronic fatigue. 3 gram EDTA Chelation infusions plus supportive multivitamin/ trace mineral supplementation extending a mean of 61.4 days. No exhaustion findings rose by 25%, mean exhaustion score decreased by 37%. In the most symptomatic fatigue group improvement was 39%.

The Effect of EDTA Chelation Therapy with MultiVitamin/Trace Mineral Supplementation upon Reported Fatigue Edward McDonagh, DO, Charles Rudolph DO, PhD, pp273 “A Textbook on EDTA Chelation Therapy” edited by Elmer Cranton, MD

13 subjects with chronic degenerative renal disease were treated with infusions that included EDTA, vitamins, minerals and oral supplements. Following 20 infusions, creatinine clearance significantly improved ( 46% in 10 infusions, additional 8% by 20 infusions)

Keith Senert, MD et al. The Improvement in Renal Function following EDTA Chelation and Multivitamin -Trace Mineral Therapy: A Study in Creatinine Clearance. Medical Hypothesis, Vol15, 1984

Effect of disodium EDTA chelation regimen on cardiovascular events in patients with previous myocardial infarction: the TACT randomized trial

Infusion treatments Active infusions: Na2EDTA 3 g, ascorbic acid 7 g, B vitamins, others (total 500 mL) vs Placebo infusions ): 0.9N NaCl + 6g dextrose (total 500 mL) 55,222 infusions administered

Urine Lead excretion increased by 4292%. Urine Cadmium excretion increased by 800%. EDTA-based chelation therapy reduces combined cardiovascular events in post MI patients treated with optimal medical therapy (5-year NNT= 18).

Compared with optimal medical therapy + placebo/placebo, optimal medical therapy + active/active demonstrates an enhanced reduction in clinical events (HR (95% CI): 0.74 (0.57, 0.95), P = 0.016) This reduction is of sufficient magnitude to be clinically significant (5-year NNT= 12) CONTEXT: Statin therapy for secondary prevention: 5.1 year NNT was 16. ( NNT= number needed to treat for one successful outcome)

Patients with diabetes demonstrate enhanced efficacy with EDTA chelation. Compared with placebo, EDTA-treated patients demonstrated a 41% reduction in Cardiovascular endpoints (p=0.0002, 5-year NNT = 7), and a 43% reduction in total mortality (p=0.011, 5-year NNT=12). CONTEXT: Statins for secondary prevention in DM o major coronary events: 5-year NNT= 15.

EDTA Chelation Therapy for the Treatment of Neurotoxicity

Neurotoxicity can be caused by numerous direct agents, of which toxic metals, organophosphorus pesticides, air pollution, radiation and electromagnetic fields, neurotoxins, chemotherapeutic and anesthetic drugs, and pathogens are the most important. Other indirect causes of neurotoxicity are cytokine and/or reactive oxygen species production and adoptive immunotherapy. The development of neurodegenerative diseases has been associated with neurotoxicity. Which arms are useful to prevent or eliminate neurotoxicity? The chelating agent calcium disodium ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA)—previously used to treat cardiovascular diseases—is known to be useful for the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases.

Major Mechanisms Underlying the Efficacy of EDTA Chelation Therapy against Neurotoxicity

Chelation of Toxic Metals: EDTA is able to bind toxic metals and to create stable complexes in vitro.

Antioxidant Activity: EDTA is itself an antioxidant agent, provoking ROS reduction and the increase of total antioxidant capacity in the blood samples of Cellfood-treated ND patients. It has already been shown how, after ten sessions of chelation therapy, plasma peroxide levels and DNA damage decrease significantly

Endothelium Protection: Serum creatinine levels did not increase significantly, nitric oxide (NO) levels and endothelial NO synthase renal expression improved, adhesion molecule Mac1 expression reduced, and TNFα-induced vascular leakage was prevented. The in vitro effects of EDTA in modulating human umbilical vein endothelial cell (HUVEC) activation induced by TNFα were also examined. TNFα-generated F-actin stress fibers reduced, as highlighted by normal tubulin distribution, in keeping with a well spread, quiescent endothelial phenotype. The results obtained regarding the avoidance of EDTA endothelial activation are in agreement with the beneficial effects of EDTA in vivo in patients affected by CVD.

Potential Antimicrobial Agent: Tetrasodium EDTA has been proposed as an antimicrobial and antibiofilm agent for use in wound care. Indeed, a low concentration of t-EDTA (4%) solution was able to kill Staphylococcus aureus, methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, Staphylococcus epidermidis, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, and Enterococcus faecalis within in vitro biofilms after a 24 h contact time.

Here are some of my reported findings and research:

Dr. Ana’s Newsletter " (More at the link)

[Bill Ryan]

EDTA CHELATION WORKS (to counteract VAXX shedding to the unVaxxed)

THERE IS HOPE - EDTA CHELATION WORKS and What Really IS COVID???
DEC 20, 2022
ANA MARIA MIHALCEA, MD, PHD
Dr. Ana’s Newsletter
https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/there-is-hope-edta-chelation-works
Very interesting, and thanks. Here's where to get EDTA:

https://zetpilnutrition.com/product/zetpil-cana2edta-chelation-suppository

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I chelate myself with these once a year just as routine, merely as a safety measure to eliminate any heavy metals that have accumulated. They're super-simple to use, and it works for everything except mercury, for which DMSA chelation is needed, a different product (https://www.zetpilnutrition.com/product/zetpil-dmsa-chelation-suppository/). I use them in batches of 10, once every couple of days. (This routine was recommended to me by a naturopath who's very familiar with this.) So the packet above lasts me for 2-3 years. :thumbsup: