Coming soon................conspiracy corner

[SPIRIT WOLF]

HERE i shall pose what most will consider to be controversial views and opinions...........worth waiting for I assure you

[Violet3]

OK then, lay it on us. :happythumbsup:

[SpookyMulder]

Putting the bar that high like that, risky business and you better not disappoint! :bigsmile:

[palehorse]

Putting the bar that high like that, risky business and you better not disappoint! :bigsmile:

haha my grandpa used to talk like that.

[Kryztian]

HERE i shall pose what most will consider to be controversial views and opinions

Blow our minds, please, please! Crush our paradigms of truth! We want to hear something we can't handle, some thing that outrages us and upsets us, something we can't possibly believe and leaves us swearing and stammering and rolling on the floor in an agonized state of denial.

Many of us have done this to other people, now it's time for us to get a taste of our own medicine.

Fire away! :laser: :flame: :frusty:

[Open Minded Dude]

I thought all the time this was what the ENTIRE Avalon is about anyway?
;)

[O Donna]

Will there be a drum roll accompanying that?

[Metaphor]

HERE i shall pose what most will consider to be controversial views and opinions...........worth waiting for I assure you

You´re quite a salesman, building up all that hype beforehand.
:bigsmile:

[wondering]

Open Minded Dude, that was my thought exactly, that's Avalon in a nutshell. These are some heady promises! I can't wait. 🙂

[SPIRIT WOLF]

No drumroll needed and will begin here very soon, patience please whilst this old relic puts the material together, some you will like, some you will hate, prepare to rant and fume as much as you want. Freedom of thought and speech exists in my neck of the woods, hopefully no one will be offended.

[SpookyMulder]

The offense will be not to be offended enough.

I for one am way past that point :happy dog:

[Did You See Them]

Waiting with bated breath.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

48128

I dare you, I double dare you!!

(I really hope it isn't this)

[Spiral]

Pulls up comfy chair & uncorks merlot.


:pop2:

[TrumanCash]

And here I thought I had the most conspiratorial, controversial views and opinions. It sounds interesting. Please give us what you got.

And by the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS from Santa!

[Ernie Nemeth]

Will there be a drum roll accompanying that?

mzAfTmC3It0

...can't keep this up much longer...

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Not long now, just preparing my bullet proof vest.....................................

[jaybee]

Not long now, just preparing my bullet proof vest.....................................


mfhBM_Yay6w

;)

[RunningDeer]

https://i.imgur.com/gWoFwbz.gif
♡

[Stephanie]

How exciting!
Hands clapping!

[wondering]

This might be bigger than Christmas!!!!.....be still my beating heart!😁😁😁😁😁

[Sérénité]

https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/20/200620926d94363a89c04378d9a032d1.jpeg

Waiting patiently but…
The suspense is killing me 😆

:popcorn:

[Open Minded Dude]

Or this might become Avalon's biggest running gag because no post apart from 'can't wait' will follow anymore.

:ROFL:

[RunningDeer]

Or this might become Avalon's biggest running gag because no post apart from 'can't wait' will follow anymore.

:ROFL:


https://i.imgur.com/hxYX9bb.gif



Barry a.k.a SPIRIT WOLF has been a member since March, 2010.

Disclosureexposed.wordpress.com (https://disclosureexposed.wordpress.com)

From SPIRIT WOLF’S bio page (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?65-SPIRIT-WOLF):

https://i.imgur.com/HIdGsve.jpgNOTE: SPIRIT WOLF, I just realized this thread isn't in the members only section. Let me know if you want me to delete your bio. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/wave-hi2.gif






Mod note from Bill:
Or of course, we can very easily move it anywhere else at all.
:thumbsup:

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Or this might become Avalon's biggest running gag because no post apart from 'can't wait' will follow anymore.

:ROFL:

No gag I assure you, I have posted a quick message here with explanation

¤=[Post Update]=¤


https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/20/200620926d94363a89c04378d9a032d1.jpeg

Waiting patiently but…
The suspense is killing me 😆

:popcorn:

LOL Thats great, sorry for delays

[42]

Not long now, just preparing my bullet proof vest.....................................

can't wait.... breath still baited. any time soon would be good...

[shamballaOn]

I could not sleep and can not wait any longer. Please be quick... :))

[Agape]

Well just in case it says “the internet works differently from my corner of the planet”,
it’s a conspiracy theory 😅
And if it says “more freedom on the Isles these days”, the conspiracy will grow thicker.


Just adding some spice to the pudding.

[Spiral]

Well just in case it says “the internet works differently from my corner of the planet”,
it’s a conspiracy theory 😅
And if it says “more freedom on the Isles these days”, the conspiracy will grow thicker.


Just adding some spice to the pudding.

Well, now you are here maybe Baz will start dropping some tidbits :ROFL:

https://c.tenor.com/tnjajUdM0YMAAAAC/hurry-up-get-on-with-it.gif

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Seems my last post re flare-up and delayed has gone AWOL

[Mashika]

Journal Record #1:

Date: 25/12/2021
Status: NA
Message: After reviewing the thread "Coming soon................conspiracy corner" for the past days, which started some point around day 20 or 21 of 12/2021, no change has been observed

:P

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Yes post has gone from 24th which stated why there is a delay from me, I stated that as I cannot get here as much as I'd like due to a severe flare-up so am asking for patience please, you will be rewarded I think. Yes also did mention that in January there will be a sister thread here called Conspiracy Corner and thats really going to get the fur flying LOL. Merry Christmas to one and all

[wondering]

Promises, promises......

[Delight]

Promises, promises......

Unkept promises is a disillusionment trigger. I embrace betrayal of promises and the disillusion as a necessary but bleak experience. I feel SO bleak these days because I have always been a seeker of knowledge and I think I finally realize that it may even be UBIQUITOUS in this 3D/4D world that we will NEVER have true revealing of knowledge. Maybe there is nothing to share? Maybe it is all the OBSERVER EFFECT that what we see is caused by who we are and therefore everything we observe is us....

I look around and wonder.....do I see that it is myself who is unable to fulfill my own promise. That is provisionally where I am now. I accept that I have betrayed my own promise to this experience. Now that I am dealing with the pain of this loss of opportunity, I am truly seeking to forgive myself.

If there is NO out there outthere except for my observation (?) and this is true for all other splinters of the whole, we have been on a pointless pursuit (we who prized knowing SO MUCH that we created a whole external rabbit warren).

My realization is bleak. I am deeply addicted to a delusion. I ache and in my heart, I feel a drop as if I have been plunged into the abyss. It is only my mind shattering, ,my head exploding and my crash into the wall of illusions I made.

This may not explain what I am sincerely encountering. However, I extend forgiveness to any splinter who still believes there is SOMETHING out there to share. We are ONE but we are all aspects. There is truth but it is not a story we can claim to be SO.

So sad to find that I will never grasp the key I seek with such intensity. The world is ALL paradox piled on paradox. All that matters is making peace with the impossible.

[Agape]

See there is Christmas evening break going here so before the pudding is served one thing needs to be stated simply:”Don’t take these things too seriously or you end up in Hel-sinki in - 26 C and it’s cold like hell. “Hel” is old Norse word for the centre of the world , actually so don’t take me too seriously either.

What you do then is recall the old B&W movie The Heroes of Telemark (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heroes_of_Telemark), take skis on at all times and start paddling 😂, in case you can’t really ski , get out, destroy the factory, go hiding for another 20 years and get posthumously ( did they mean it ) awarded for things you have never done.


Now please, wait patiently while the pudding is being served and don’t look under the table,


🙏🌟🙏

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Promises, promises......

Unkept promises is a disillusionment trigger. I embrace betrayal of promises and the disillusion as a necessary but bleak experience. I feel SO bleak these days because I have always been a seeker of knowledge and I think I finally realize that it may even be UBIQUITOUS in this 3D/4D world that we will NEVER have true revealing of knowledge. Maybe there is nothing to share? Maybe it is all the OBSERVER EFFECT that what we see is caused by who we are and therefore everything we observe is us....

I look around and wonder.....do I see that it is myself who is unable to fulfill my own promise. That is provisionally where I am now. I accept that I have betrayed my own promise to this experience. Now that I am dealing with the pain of this loss of opportunity, I am truly seeking to forgive myself.

If there is NO out there outthere except for my observation (?) and this is true for all other splinters of the whole, we have been on a pointless pursuit (we who prized knowing SO MUCH that we created a whole external rabbit warren).

My realization is bleak. I am deeply addicted to a delusion. I ache and in my heart, I feel a drop as if I have been plunged into the abyss. It is only my mind shattering, ,my head exploding and my crash into the wall of illusions I made.

This may not explain what I am sincerely encountering. However, I extend forgiveness to any splinter who still believes there is SOMETHING out there to share. We are ONE but we are all aspects. There is truth but it is not a story we can claim to be SO.

So sad to find that I will never grasp the key I seek with such intensity. The world is ALL paradox piled on paradox. All that matters is making peace with the impossible.

These ARE NOT unkept promises, you will here all see the start of what I began as a Controversy Corner AND you WILL see a Conspiracy thread as stated in JANUARY. My health dictates my actions right now, my system is knocking me off my feet literally as severe flare up but if you cannot accept that I'm sorry, am doing my utmost to crawl to my desk in order to post here!

¤=[Post Update]=¤


See there is Christmas evening break going here so before the pudding is served one thing needs to be stated simply:”Don’t take these things too seriously or you end up in Hel-sinki in - 26 C and it’s cold like hell. “Hel” is old Norse word for the centre of the world , actually so don’t take me too seriously either.

What you do then is recall the old B&W movie The Heroes of Telemark (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heroes_of_Telemark), take skis on at all times and start paddling 😂, in case you can’t really ski , get out, destroy the factory, go hiding for another 20 years and get posthumously ( did they mean it ) awarded for things you have never done.


Now please, wait patiently while the pudding is being served and don’t look under the table,


🙏🌟🙏

Not sure about how to take this but will do my best if thats good enough for you guys

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I'm very interested to think WHAT EXACTLY you all believe MAY be controversial, my and your ideas might be totally at variance, but I will hopefully NOT let you down

[SPIRIT WOLF]

OK guys, you pushed me to it, wracked in pain but going to make a start here in order to quell the masses. Of very many topics I am going to cover here I will begin with one that was NOT due yet but as its topical here we go............................COVID, CORONAVIRUS,OMNICRON...........................the damn Pandemic. I'm in the vulnerable list, as is my wife and daughter, we all 3 had, after an NHS delay, our second vaccine in August, and waited till we were called for the booster they say we badly needed. We cannot get appointments anytime soon so will wait it out. This IS NOT the problem. The problem is I'm sick and tired of seeing the moronic lazy inconsiderate arseholes walking around stores and supermarkets without face masks. OK there ae those supposedly exempt from this on medical grounds (roll eyes really?) but too many whom could not care less and simply walk around as if the LEGAL MANDATORY rules do not apply to them

If they wish to endanger themselves thats their look out but I will not allow these selfish bastards to endanger me or my family. On a number of occasions I have told people where is your bloody mask, they look at me as if to say "what mask" ........................total cretins and imbeciles. If this Government says its bloody mandatory with possible £200 fines if not complied with then the idiots better do as told, too many stores do not enforce, and these idiots know that so simply walk in and know they will not be confronted.

This IS a pandemic, Omicron is viral here, may not be as bad symptom wise but very infectious and not something to be ignorant of. As far As I am concerned ALL these moronic anti vaxxers and anti maskers should be hauled up and placed in organised quarantine units designed simply for total cretins in thos categories and allowed to mix with the rest of society. We hear on the news the majority of intensive care patients are YOUNG and UNVACCINATED, some few being OLDER but still UNVACCINATED! Perhaps as these bloody disgrace of a human being should be ither forced to pay for their treatment or kicked out and made to fend for themselves alone at home! After all THEY created the problem for themselves.

One news feed the lady stated out of 350 beds taken up in ICU 345 were of UNVACCINATED people!!! PROVES THE POINT EH?
I may be old and vulnerable but see no reason my or anyones else should be put at risk by these selfish inconsiderate excuses for human beings.
Well that begins the CONTROVERSY corner, see where we go from here guys.....................I'm sure there are those of you out there fuming and lining up the crosshairs as we speak LOL


ALL FOR NOW

[The Moss Trooper]

Oh dear.

Well, you did say that it would be controversial.

Caveat Emptor.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

On a roll, sitting here punching my upper legs to get some feeling in them, I will continue quickly with this................... I stated on forums back in 2005 that two areas I try to avoid discussing are Religion and Politics, you will see why as we get further into this. In the 90's the internet was like a small corner shop on a small street in a small country, now its as big or bigger than the entire planet! In those days there was VERY little around. I had my own website in 2002/3 Darker Realms.co.uk but was "advised" to either remove images or be shut down, I refused to remove so they shut me down. The culprit images were of the 1997 Princess Di fatal crash. These were by a German photographer whom was in the tunnel moments after the crash and portrayed pics of the Merc, the scene in general, emergency services removing crash victims, in fact some pretty gruesome stuff. The guy contacted me as he read the original files I sent out in the 90's and thought I would be a good source as far as glo0bal release keeping him anonymous. It backfired unfortunately as stated, the site was shut down.

Also on this terrible incident everyone including officials state the driver was to blame for the crash, utter NONSENSE. Falsified blood and other equally fabricated tests put the blame squarely on the driver. What no one cared to dare go against this finding is the FACT that every CPO assigned to a VIP will, on EVERY occasion, have completely checked both vehicles and assigned drivers, before said VIP is allowed to use that mode of transportation. I KNOW THIS AS FACT. No way would Di's CPO have allowed the driver to have been assigned for that trip if under the influence of drink or drugs, NO WAY. Its a pity the CPO was not able to testify due to his injuries and blanks in his recall.

This should rattle a few cages,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,c'mon, bring it on

[Metaphor]

I wish you a continued happy holiday and good luck with your thread. I understand you must have avoided to contemplate any of the information in any of the more sober and less alarmist corona threads. Also the concept of that it is the mass media creating all this fear in you must completely have flown over your head.
There will be no flame wars here. Not in this thread or any other. I guess a heated debate was your aim?
Go back to sleep nothing to see here.
Good bye

[SPIRIT WOLF]

I wish you a continued happy holiday and good luck with your thread. I understand you must have avoided to contemplate any of the information in any of the more sober and less alarmist corona threads. Also the concept of that it is the mass media creating all this fear in you must completely have flown over your head.
There will be no flame wars here. Not in this thread or any other. I guess a heated debate was your aim?
Go back to sleep nothing to see here.
Good bye

OH OK, not sure how to take that, was certainly NOT expecting any flame wars as you put it but YES was expecting some conflictions. Did I put you to sleep with my boring old post? Never mind, at my age I do not give a damn, I do NOT do PC, I say what I feel as I wish, free thought and free speech always, At my time of life we are immune to the snowflakes and wokes of the World, they need putting in their place! Anyways I take little notice of MSN and do not allow them to guide or rule so unsure what you mean by your words, nothing at my age goes over my head, I'm a bit more streetwise and savvy!

[Gracy]

Mod Hat On:

SPIRIT WOLF.

Maybe next time when you have some valuable information to impart, just put it out there. When gathering a crowd, give them what they've been called to hear, don't keep them endlessly waiting else they may begin to feel used and become disgruntled.

This is Human Nature 101.

[Sérénité]

Slightly anti climactical and I probably shouldn’t rise, but I’m genuinely confused and perplexed at the logic we’re seeing, or not…

If the vaccines work, why the need for masks?

The vaccine doesn’t stop you catching or passing on the virus.
Neither do the masks.
Viral particulates are significantly smaller than the masks can contain/block…it’s a little like wrapping chicken wire around your bed to prevent a mosquito attack.

If you’re vaccinated, why are you scared of people who don’t wear masks?
Why are you angry at those who don’t wish to have a vaccine or wear a mask?

After all if they work, you and your family are safe now, right?

[Mashika]

If i may, i find it more controversial that people insist of only talking about covid and variants and nothing else. It's annoying and then there is this:

1. If someone keeps insisting to make it the most important thing in the world and keeps pushing it so hard that it must be the only/top important thing ever, then i'm just going to do the total opposite
2. I'm so tired of being unable to go online and soon after i spent 5 minutes there a covid post, in one way or another, popsup
3. Therefore, if i'm scrolling on reddit or anywhere else like VK or Baidu or even Pikabu and i ever start to see CO or Co or Omi i immediately scroll past without any care

I find nothing, absolutely nothing controversial about it anymore, i'm actually bored of it all. It's the same conversation repeated a million times online by now, the two sides, mask vs maskless, vaccinated vs not vaccinated, the same points over and over and over and over and over

The actual controversial thing here is, how did people got into a point where they can't talk about anything else and ignore all the other illnesses out there and go into an almost fanatical reasoning around the Covid stuff. I bet some people even have an altar at their houses now, either with a Covid bug image or a Vaccine one, it has turned into a religious like mentality all over the planet

Do some of the people that went fanatical consider it a daily ritual to prepare to go out their homes? Do they perform a body cleansing ritual, then carefully put their two masks and face cover and pray for health and wellness? Is that like a religious ritual for them? Do they think 'As i walk through the valley of the shadow of death' as they walk into the street to go work or school?

https://www.deseret.com/2021/12/16/22838548/mystery-illness-sudan-who-investigation


A mysterious illness has killed close to 100 people in South Sudan, raising concern among experts who plan to investigate what happened.

Per BBC News, the World Health Organization has started to investigate the scores of deaths, which happened in Fangak and Jonglei State in South Sudan.

The investigation dismissed cholera as an illness.


But it's not related to Covid so no one cares. I wonder if there is life after Covid goes away, or if people will continue to talk about it because it became the central aspect of their daly lives and they can't part with it anymore

I don't care about Covid, i don't care about the vaccine in anyway, it is the point where it has been pushed so hard that it's the very definition of 'ad nauseam'.

We should burn all the dictionaries and print new ones where next to 'ad nauseam' you see a picture of the Corona bug

[SPIRIT WOLF]

CONFUSED!! Can admin kindly let me know why this thread has changed title, I started it as "Stepping out of the shadows....no triggers here" So please tell me why the change, many thanks

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Mod Hat On:

SPIRIT WOLF.

Maybe next time when you have some valuable information to impart, just put it out there. When gathering a crowd, give them what they've been called to hear, don't keep them endlessly waiting else they may begin to feel used and become disgruntled.

This is Human Nature 101.

OK but I'm sure you must have read WHY there was a delay here or do people rush towards other things? If you are so impatient please look elsewhere, I'm doing my best, we cannot all sit at comps all day!

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Slightly anti climactical and I probably shouldn’t rise, but I’m genuinely confused and perplexed at the logic we’re seeing, or not…

If the vaccines work, why the need for masks?

The vaccine doesn’t stop you catching or passing on the virus.
Neither do the masks.
Viral particulates are significantly smaller than the masks can contain/block…it’s a little like wrapping chicken wire around your bed to prevent a mosquito attack.

If you’re vaccinated, why are you scared of people who don’t wear masks?
Why are you angry at those who don’t wish to have a vaccine or wear a mask?

After all if they work, you and your family are safe now, right?

Face masks, as long as they are minimum of 3 layers DO actually help in reducing risks, do you mind having people near you in stores coughing and spluttering? The experts would not face maks MANDATORY if they felt they were of no use, when told to do something, particularly in such cases as a Pandemic, why do selfish people disobey a legal requirement?. Its of no comfort to myself or family that we are possibly safe, we follow guidelines and rules, everyone else should do the same.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


If i may, i find it more controversial that people insist of only talking about covid and variants and nothing else. It's annoying and then there is this:

1. If someone keeps insisting to make it the most important thing in the world and keeps pushing it so hard that it must be the only/top important thing ever, then i'm just going to do the total opposite
2. I'm so tired of being unable to go online and soon after i spent 5 minutes there a covid post, in one way or another, popsup
3. Therefore, if i'm scrolling on reddit or anywhere else like VK or Baidu or even Pikabu and i ever start to see CO or Co or Omi i immediately scroll past without any care

I find nothing, absolutely nothing controversial about it anymore, i'm actually bored of it all. It's the same conversation repeated a million times online by now, the two sides, mask vs maskless, vaccinated vs not vaccinated, the same points over and over and over and over and over

The actual controversial thing here is, how did people got into a point where they can't talk about anything else and ignore all the other illnesses out there and go into an almost fanatical reasoning around the Covid stuff. I bet some people even have an altar at their houses now, either with a Covid bug image or a Vaccine one, it has turned into a religious like mentality all over the planet

Do some of the people that went fanatical consider it a daily ritual to prepare to go out their homes? Do they perform a body cleansing ritual, then carefully put their two masks and face cover and pray for health and wellness? Is that like a religious ritual for them? Do they think 'As i walk through the valley of the shadow of death' as they walk into the street to go work or school?

https://www.deseret.com/2021/12/16/22838548/mystery-illness-sudan-who-investigation


A mysterious illness has killed close to 100 people in South Sudan, raising concern among experts who plan to investigate what happened.

Per BBC News, the World Health Organization has started to investigate the scores of deaths, which happened in Fangak and Jonglei State in South Sudan.

The investigation dismissed cholera as an illness.


But it's not related to Covid so no one cares. I wonder if there is life after Covid goes away, or if people will continue to talk about it because it became the central aspect of their daly lives and they can't part with it anymore

I don't care about Covid, i don't care about the vaccine in anyway, it is the point where it has been pushed so hard that it's the very definition of 'ad nauseam'.

We should burn all the dictionaries and print new ones where next to 'ad nauseam' you see a picture of the Corona bug

DEAR OH DEAR, you think this is ONLY about Covid? Good God, I did say I chose AS A START, Covid, but there are going to be many more topics, but if you are easily bored please move on

[SPIRIT WOLF]

I can hear the fingers drumming and sighs of boredom...........................please get a grip and take in what I tried to simply describe as my inability to be here all damn day long, I'm fighting a very severe flare up, those that have known me since 2005/6 know what I'm going thru so please try and be a little patient and understanding, if you cannot do that please move on to brighter climes.

[Mashika]

Slightly anti climactical and I probably shouldn’t rise, but I’m genuinely confused and perplexed at the logic we’re seeing, or not…

If the vaccines work, why the need for masks?

The vaccine doesn’t stop you catching or passing on the virus.
Neither do the masks.
Viral particulates are significantly smaller than the masks can contain/block…it’s a little like wrapping chicken wire around your bed to prevent a mosquito attack.

If you’re vaccinated, why are you scared of people who don’t wear masks?
Why are you angry at those who don’t wish to have a vaccine or wear a mask?

After all if they work, you and your family are safe now, right?

Face masks, as long as they are minimum of 3 layers DO actually help in reducing risks, do you mind having people near you in stores coughing and spluttering? The experts would not face maks MANDATORY if they felt they were of no use, when told to do something, particularly in such cases as a Pandemic, why do selfish people disobey a legal requirement?. Its of no comfort to myself or family that we are possibly safe, we follow guidelines and rules, everyone else should do the same.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


If i may, i find it more controversial that people insist of only talking about covid and variants and nothing else. It's annoying and then there is this:

1. If someone keeps insisting to make it the most important thing in the world and keeps pushing it so hard that it must be the only/top important thing ever, then i'm just going to do the total opposite
2. I'm so tired of being unable to go online and soon after i spent 5 minutes there a covid post, in one way or another, popsup
3. Therefore, if i'm scrolling on reddit or anywhere else like VK or Baidu or even Pikabu and i ever start to see CO or Co or Omi i immediately scroll past without any care

I find nothing, absolutely nothing controversial about it anymore, i'm actually bored of it all. It's the same conversation repeated a million times online by now, the two sides, mask vs maskless, vaccinated vs not vaccinated, the same points over and over and over and over and over

The actual controversial thing here is, how did people got into a point where they can't talk about anything else and ignore all the other illnesses out there and go into an almost fanatical reasoning around the Covid stuff. I bet some people even have an altar at their houses now, either with a Covid bug image or a Vaccine one, it has turned into a religious like mentality all over the planet

Do some of the people that went fanatical consider it a daily ritual to prepare to go out their homes? Do they perform a body cleansing ritual, then carefully put their two masks and face cover and pray for health and wellness? Is that like a religious ritual for them? Do they think 'As i walk through the valley of the shadow of death' as they walk into the street to go work or school?

https://www.deseret.com/2021/12/16/22838548/mystery-illness-sudan-who-investigation


A mysterious illness has killed close to 100 people in South Sudan, raising concern among experts who plan to investigate what happened.

Per BBC News, the World Health Organization has started to investigate the scores of deaths, which happened in Fangak and Jonglei State in South Sudan.

The investigation dismissed cholera as an illness.


But it's not related to Covid so no one cares. I wonder if there is life after Covid goes away, or if people will continue to talk about it because it became the central aspect of their daly lives and they can't part with it anymore

I don't care about Covid, i don't care about the vaccine in anyway, it is the point where it has been pushed so hard that it's the very definition of 'ad nauseam'.

We should burn all the dictionaries and print new ones where next to 'ad nauseam' you see a picture of the Corona bug

DEAR OH DEAR, you think this is ONLY about Covid? Good God, I did say I chose AS A START, Covid, but there are going to be many more topics, but if you are easily bored please move on

No i don't think it is all about covid, i just said a very specific thing:

"All conversation about covid is like flagging the dead horse non stop and it leads to nothing and it's boring and no one cares anymore"

Also there is nothing controversial about the covid details anymore. It's more interesting to figure out why people were lead into talking about it non stop for months and months and that they can't let go.

Nobody below 25 cares at all about it anymore, and the rules can go into the covid trash bin for all we care

Some day the current brain dead politicians will die, and maybe the world will have common sense again, and not a bunch of old guys running around like in Australia arresting 13 year old kids because they went visit some friends next state and they didn't had 'the papers'. So the police made a run for them and they got Gestapo-like arrested in a dramatic scene with the bus getting stopped and the kids getting dragged out

Or how an entire region got locked because 'one single new case of covid came up', then the entire region with thousands and thousands got locked and no one could go to their jobs and had to stay inside their homes, locked and barricaded

That's how out of their minds those 'adults' are, it's comical to watch them run around like headless chickens. It has become a joke, honestly

That's actually a funny and controversial topic, how dumb and ignorant/self-unaware of their idiotic ways they are?

So no, the 'why don't they use a mask!' thing is not controversial, or discussing it at all, who cares. The controversial thing is how dumb and brain dead adult people have turned by now, and it actually has little to do with Covid, it's a general thing that could apply to anything else in this world, like war and regulations on the street about other non-covid related things, or education and so on

[DaveToo]

Wow!
I had my bag of popcorn all ready for this intriguing thread and then SPIRIT WOLF finally introduces
himself as a Covid normie. Oh well.


If i may, i find it more controversial that people insist of only talking about covid and variants and nothing else...

I find nothing, absolutely nothing controversial about it anymore, i'm actually bored of it all. It's the same conversation repeated a million times online by now, the two sides, mask vs maskless, vaccinated vs not vaccinated, the same points over and over and over and over and over

The actual controversial thing here is, how did people got into a point where they can't talk about anything else and ignore all the other illnesses out there and go into an almost fanatical reasoning around the Covid stuff. I bet some people even have an altar at their houses now, either with a Covid bug image or a Vaccine one, it has turned into a religious like mentality all over the planet...


... I wonder if there is life after Covid goes away, or if people will continue to talk about it because it became the central aspect of their daly lives and they can't part with it anymore

I don't care about Covid, i don't care about the vaccine in anyway, it is the point where it has been pushed so hard that it's the very definition of 'ad nauseam'...

Malisa what you wrote is very important and I believe it deserves a thread all its own.

I had a feeling that you were bored/not interested in the scamdemic as you rarely make posts in the plandemic threads.

I don't really know how to put this without hurting your feelings.

There are a myriad of reasons why the scamdemic is getting so much 'airplay' here, in the Alt-media in general, in the MSM all around the world and in
the daily lives of most people around the globe each day.

It's discussed non-stop in the MSM because of the orders given from above (Event 201) in the planning stages.
Without the 24-7 Covid fear porn we see from the MSM, health and government officials, this thing would go away in a few days.

It's discussed here and at most Alt-media sites because we can see the big picture, beyond Covid. We can see where this is going. And it ain't pretty.

You said you wonder "if there is life after Covid goes away".
First of all, Covid ain't going away anytime soon, so you better start getting used to it. :(
Secondly, the subtle and not so changes that will take shape during and in the aftermath of Covid
will be so profound that you will long for the good 'ol days when you had all of your freedoms and liberties.

I wish I was wrong. I've been saying this right from the start of this scam.
But the writing is on the wall. If you can't see it, I'm sorry I can't help you.

The world is witnessing a train wreck in slow motion...

[Mashika]

My last year in college was mostly online, i did not attend 'one single class' in person through the year, and then it ended

We had a 'pizza party' at some point at the end of 2020, it was online. We all sat there like a bunch of cartoons, eating pizza and watching people eating pizza on our screens. It's one of the most idiotic and embarrassing things i have ever done in my life

That's all i have to say about it

I hope the next post is more interesting and something to actually discuss, because the covid thing? Meh

[Mashika]

Wow!
I had my bag of popcorn all ready for this intriguing thread and then SPIRIT WOLF finally introduces
himself as a Covid normie. Oh well.


If i may, i find it more controversial that people insist of only talking about covid and variants and nothing else...

I find nothing, absolutely nothing controversial about it anymore, i'm actually bored of it all. It's the same conversation repeated a million times online by now, the two sides, mask vs maskless, vaccinated vs not vaccinated, the same points over and over and over and over and over

The actual controversial thing here is, how did people got into a point where they can't talk about anything else and ignore all the other illnesses out there and go into an almost fanatical reasoning around the Covid stuff. I bet some people even have an altar at their houses now, either with a Covid bug image or a Vaccine one, it has turned into a religious like mentality all over the planet...


... I wonder if there is life after Covid goes away, or if people will continue to talk about it because it became the central aspect of their daly lives and they can't part with it anymore

I don't care about Covid, i don't care about the vaccine in anyway, it is the point where it has been pushed so hard that it's the very definition of 'ad nauseam'...

Malisa what you wrote is very important and I believe it deserves a thread all its own.

I had a feeling that you were bored/not interested in the scamdemic as you rarely make posts in the plandemic threads.

I don't really know how to put this without hurting your feelings.

Nothing at all anymore can hurt me, since long ago, sure i can get mad about some things, like everyone else, But hurt? That's just not how i go through life since long ago, with maybe one or two cases recently but it was completely different than this conversation :)



There are a myriad of reasons why the scamdemic is getting so much 'airplay' here, in the Alt-media in general, in the MSM all around the world and in
the daily lives of most people around the globe each day.

It's discussed non-stop in the MSM because of the orders given from above (Event 201) in the planning stages.
Without the 24-7 Covid fear porn we see from the MSM, health and government officials, this thing would go away in a few days.

It's discussed here and at most Alt-media sites because we can see the big picture, beyond Covid. We can see where this is going. And it ain't pretty.


There is a difference between discussing why something is happening and the strategy behind it, and looking at it in deep trying to figure out the global plan, and bickering between people about following the rules and mask vs mask-less and so on. I don't complain about discussing, researching and looking at mapping the global strategy. I care for that and it's important.

I don't care about having a rant about why some people won't just follow the rules and use 30 masks and all that stuff, that's useless, that's just noise and perfectly designed to make people get divided and outspend their energy in pointless arguments that won't change anything ever at all. See?



You said you wonder "if there is life after Covid goes away".

First of all, Covid ain't going away anytime soon, so you better start getting used to it. :(
Secondly, the subtle and not so changes that will take shape during and in the aftermath of Covid
will be so profound that you will long for the good 'ol days when you had all of your freedoms and liberties.

I was pointing out that for people who like to discuss mask vs mask-less, will they ever have a new conversation, non-covid related?

Maybe should make it more clear: "Is there any brain/social development for people who can't talk about anything but covid all day long? Those who go to a party or are having tea/coffee with a friend and the only thing they can talk is covid related items?" Is there any life after that for them, socially and in other ways? Why do they get emotional about it so much? Are they going to go behead the unvaccinated later on in some years? It's getting into a point where it looks like it's a religion, a fundamentalistic one in some ways, the usual "we vs them" and then we rip the skin off 'the others'

Like i said, it's interesting to find how it came to be, but if you spend your time discussing regulations and this or that about stores and shops and who can go in or out, instead of the main/root cause of the problem, then it's just noise and it will never get anywhere :crazy:



I wish I was wrong. I've been saying this right from the start of this scam.
But the writing is on the wall. If you can't see it, I'm sorry I can't help you.

The world is witnessing a train wreck in slow motion...
We have different views because what you see is not happening around me, it's the opposite actually. People here understand how dumb the entire thing is and so far have not fallen for it the way i see it happening in other places

:clapping::noidea:

[indiana]

Speaking of conspiracy, this is certainly one of the things this corona malarkey is about. Excellent piece here from a Prof of Critical Theory on why the virus was wheeled out. I must also admit to the mask/maskless... varients...ICU numbers... positive cases... debates are frankly boring as bejaysus and just a tool for distraction. One this maskless, unjabbed individual won't be engaging in again. Best of luck all!

https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/?fbclid=IwAR2oXLK-Jv88oNADWQmQlWnwIHdHcMFtkrgsQQo1buRUQlqWLwjRDwGI3vU

[SPIRIT WOLF]

My last year in college was mostly online, i did not attend 'one single class' in person through the year, and then it ended

We had a 'pizza party' at some point at the end of 2020, it was online. We all sat there like a bunch of cartoons, eating pizza and watching people eating pizza on our screens. It's one of the most idiotic and embarrassing things i have ever done in my life

That's all i have to say about it

I hope the next post is more interesting and something to actually discuss, because the covid thing? Meh

Hi, well as and when this old wreck can try to get here and post, hows some elements of my past?, some elements of religion, some of politics, but no doubt, NOT your usual run-of-the-mill topics, hows about Porton Down readying a bioweapon, hows about individuals claiming to be supersoldiers, the mind sickness these poor souls are going thru, and many many more. Interested? Then please stick around, if not kindly move on

[Mashika]

Speaking of conspiracy, this is certainly one of the things this corona malarkey is about. Excellent piece here from a Prof of Critical Theory on why the virus was wheeled out. I must also admit to the mask/maskless... varients...ICU numbers... positive cases... debates are frankly boring as bejaysus and just a tool for distraction. One this maskless, unjabbed individual won't be engaging in again. Best of luck all!

https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/?fbclid=IwAR2oXLK-Jv88oNADWQmQlWnwIHdHcMFtkrgsQQo1buRUQlqWLwjRDwGI3vU

Just now, on this very same thread, the proof it's there in plain sight :)

We are having a discussion about why covid is being discussed, but nothing of what has been said will help or make us move forward towards finding out the final end game of this pandemic or whatever. Nothing is going to happen after all the last posts, we didn't move forward to figure out anything about the end game. So it's just more noise. And i also drop out of here now

Thanks for listening to my pointless rant

[SPIRIT WOLF]

HALT please, we are getting way off track. I ONLY started this with the covid aspect as its right here in your face, lets forget that now and try to see what I have planned within this name changed thread, CONTROVERSY CORNER..................thanks, Barry (totally knackered now and painkillers kicked in so off to bed, nite nite all, and, no bickering)

[RunningDeer]

Mod Hat On:

SPIRIT WOLF.

Maybe next time when you have some valuable information to impart, just put it out there. When gathering a crowd, give them what they've been called to hear, don't keep them endlessly waiting else they may begin to feel used and become disgruntled.

This is Human Nature 101.

You're kind, Gracy. Disgruntled is putting it mildly. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/anger-pull-hair.gif

SPIRIT WOLF lost me at (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117180-Coming-soon................conspiracy-corner&p=1470913&viewfull=1#post1470913): 1) UNVACCINATED people 2) these selfish inconsiderate excuses for human beings 3) these selfish bastards 4) these bloody disgrace of a human being.

[DaveToo]

There is a difference between discussing why something is happening and the strategy behind it, and looking at it in deep trying to figure out the global plan, and bickering between people about following the rules and mask vs mask-less and so on. I don't complain about discussing, researching and looking at mapping the global strategy. I care for that and it's important.

I don't care about having a rant about why some people won't just follow the rules and use 30 masks and all that stuff, that's useless, that's just noise and perfectly designed to make people get divided and outspend their energy in pointless arguments that won't change anything ever at all. See?

... I was pointing out that for people who like to discuss mask vs mask-less, will they ever have a new conversation, non-covid related?

I agree with you all the way above. I don't get into arguments over face masks and the like either.
It's the big picture, how we're going to get out of this mess that is much more important.

There are groups starting to sprout up all around the world (in Canada too that I partake in) that are trying to build parallel societies that are self-sufficient, that can exist without the tyranny ruling above them.
It's encouraging to find like-minded people like this.




The world is witnessing a train wreck in slow motion...


We have different views because what you see is not happening around me, it's the opposite actually. People here understand how dumb the entire thing is and so far have not fallen for it the way i see it happening in other places

:clapping::noidea:

You are lucky to be living in Russia right now and not having to witness and experience the craziness that's going on in many other countries.
I know the mindset of the Russian people and admire them for being able to look through the bullsh_t around them.

You must be doing something right. The Sputnik jab is not accepted here in Canada. :)

[Ernie Nemeth]

Is it only me who realizes what has happened here?

Please give your heads a shake and give the man a chance to get his **** together.

And Barry, wtf?

I get you are in pain, sorry. We were just having a little fun with you, not knowing your situation. No one was seriously perturbed by the delay. Hey, it's been many, many years. What's a few more days? No need to get aggressive on us.

So your hurting, okay. Give yourself some time. No rush. We'll be here. Your health is more important.

[Agape]

I think that the problem is extraterrestrial of one kind, we are not strong enough to cope with the nature of this planet at all times and are very vulnerable to the harsh climate, if it was not for heaters, ACIs , refrigerator units and so forth people would struggle to make it these days.

More so, some of us were brought up in very clean environments, in professional ways, teaching the hygiene and security protocol to minor details,
many people who were not sufficiently taken care of in their childhood struggle to capture the idea behind any sort of protocol long to their old age.


But in my best opinion , it’s not the real problem we are up and against now, in the cold.

There ARE many more people dying of hunger, starvation, homelessness and poverty everyday than those targeted by Covid 19.


Protection for those who can tolerate it especially against the cold winter blow is recommended.


It should better appear with Grace and Culture

than under threat of Guns and Fire.



It is important to understand your heart and oxygen functions not to suffocate yourself in tight jackets and under masks.
In case of approaching heart attack remove your masks immediately.

Under the mask your intracranial pressure rises and your oxygen saturation is lowered.

In order to avoid accidents and emergencies only use the mask for limited periods of time and not in encapsulated spaces like cars.
Keep it in your pocket to put on in case of social contact.

Limit your anger towards people with no masks.


When there is no peace, good health is always more delicate and difficult to maintain



We wish you the best of peace and recovery



🙏🕊🌈

[jaybee]

Face masks, as long as they are minimum of 3 layers DO actually help in reducing risks, do you mind having people near you in stores coughing and spluttering? The experts would not face maks MANDATORY if they felt they were of no use, when told to do something, particularly in such cases as a Pandemic, why do selfish people disobey a legal requirement?. Its of no comfort to myself or family that we are possibly safe, we follow guidelines and rules, everyone else should do the same.[COLOR="red"]


what's going on - surely this and your other rant about the whole Covid situation, is parody...?

This thread has gone skewiff ...... :/

[palehorse]

geez, better start over huh? reset the thread.

[Bill Ryan]

Seems my last post re flare-up and delayed has gone AWOLMod note from Bill:

Merely a small piece of admin info here, for clarification purposes in case it might be helpful. I wanted to confirm that no post on this thread has been deleted by the mods, and there's no other post by Barry dated 24 December showing up on any search.

I can only assume that for some reason, it was never actually posted, though Barry may well have sincerely thought that it was. (Sometimes, a very temporary local Wifi glitch can cause something like this.)

:focus:

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Wow!
I had my bag of popcorn all ready for this intriguing thread and then SPIRIT WOLF finally introduces
himself as a Covid normie. Oh well.


If i may, i find it more controversial that people insist of only talking about covid and variants and nothing else...

I find nothing, absolutely nothing controversial about it anymore, i'm actually bored of it all. It's the same conversation repeated a million times online by now, the two sides, mask vs maskless, vaccinated vs not vaccinated, the same points over and over and over and over and over

The actual controversial thing here is, how did people got into a point where they can't talk about anything else and ignore all the other illnesses out there and go into an almost fanatical reasoning around the Covid stuff. I bet some people even have an altar at their houses now, either with a Covid bug image or a Vaccine one, it has turned into a religious like mentality all over the planet...


... I wonder if there is life after Covid goes away, or if people will continue to talk about it because it became the central aspect of their daly lives and they can't part with it anymore

I don't care about Covid, i don't care about the vaccine in anyway, it is the point where it has been pushed so hard that it's the very definition of 'ad nauseam'...

Malisa what you wrote is very important and I believe it deserves a thread all its own.

I had a feeling that you were bored/not interested in the scamdemic as you rarely make posts in the plandemic threads.

I don't really know how to put this without hurting your feelings.

There are a myriad of reasons why the scamdemic is getting so much 'airplay' here, in the Alt-media in general, in the MSM all around the world and in
the daily lives of most people around the globe each day.

It's discussed non-stop in the MSM because of the orders given from above (Event 201) in the planning stages.
Without the 24-7 Covid fear porn we see from the MSM, health and government officials, this thing would go away in a few days.

It's discussed here and at most Alt-media sites because we can see the big picture, beyond Covid. We can see where this is going. And it ain't pretty.

You said you wonder "if there is life after Covid goes away".
First of all, Covid ain't going away anytime soon, so you better start getting used to it. :(
Secondly, the subtle and not so changes that will take shape during and in the aftermath of Covid
will be so profound that you will long for the good 'ol days when you had all of your freedoms and liberties.

I wish I was wrong. I've been saying this right from the start of this scam.
But the writing is on the wall. If you can't see it, I'm sorry I can't help you.

The world is witnessing a train wreck in slow motion...

A covid normie??? OH MY GOOD GOD, I simply stated my view and opinion on that subject as a STARTER to this CONTROVERSY thread, why are you all hanging on to that as if its the ONLY thing I'm going to discuss?. FFS please move along, I stated my views and as entitled to do so will constantly feel amazed here at the way you all are acting, maybe I should just shut up shop and leave you all to it. God knows what reactions there may be to my other CONTROVERSIES!

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Can we please move along AWAY from covid, its enough to make one regret being here. Take note my next piece is going to be the race to manufacture and USE a specific bioweapon, you may all know it as AIDS virus. This one may well be short lived so will not worry too much if we need move past it quickly. AIDS was manufactured at FT.Detrick Maryland in early 1962 on instructions by DoD. There was in the minds of certain military elements the need to, for want of a better term, "cull" specific individuals................primarily aimed at the gay community and they wanted to, in true nazi fashion, "weed out" undesirables and what they saw as an insult to true blue Americans.

Where you might ask is the controversy in this? Well my friends I'm giving you the actual date and location where these sick minded individuals plotted and ran the program....................other than that we can move along if you wish to a subject my true real close friends know already, certain aspects of my hidden past.

Over to you now.................................

¤=[Post Update]=¤



Seems my last post re flare-up and delayed has gone AWOLMod note from Bill:

Merely a small piece of admin info here, for clarification purposes in case it might be helpful. I wanted to confirm that no post on this thread has been deleted by the mods, and there's no other post by Barry dated 24 December showing up on any search.

I can only assume that for some reason, it was never actually posted, though Barry may well have sincerely thought that it was. (Sometimes, a very temporary local Wifi glitch can cause something like this.)

:focus:

Cheers Bill, guess you are right, I did press the post button but my connection may have cut out temporarily, no harm done.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


geez, better start over huh? reset the thread.

No reason to, we can hopefully continue and LOOSE covid

[Agape]

But this myth of HIV manufactured by Ft Detrick is already ancient.

According to Stasi documents recovered the myth was insinuated by KGB between 1983-87 and put on Stasi operational plan in the same years.
It ( the myth) did not spread very far, they seem to have targeted with it mostly politicians of Eastern Germany and Bulgaria.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24697634/

It’s main designer and propagator( scientist behind the bio-information design) is named Jakob Segal , obscure Soviet biologist.

For all other purposes, yes I believe it was also used as bioweapon as you have mentioned, targeting the most vulnerable and outcast communities such as gays, drug users and criminals.

The HIV virus is closely related to simian immunodeficiency virus and did originate in Africa by direct transmission from chimpanzees and macaques to humans while they were actively hunted for and consumed.
It’s in fact just one in the family of immunodeficiency viruses perpetuated among primates that is transmissible in human populace.


Much of the current “conspiracy theory myths” are ancient by now and originated at times of the infamous Cold War and information blockades.

In times before internet any piece of “alien information” seemed far more real to people dependent on their version of newspapers so there was better chance for disinformation to be passed clandestinely among scientifically illiterate populace,
this was done in targeted manner.

It’s not clear to me whether you were on the KGB/Stasi information target at some point of your research carrier as they were quite possibly interested in the information you have recovered on the British Isles.


🕊

[bobme]

SPIRIT WOLF.

Please tell me all of the ingrediants in the vaccine, and how they affect us. thanks

[Spiral]

I'm still waiting to read about insane racist wife beating cornish super duper soldiers n' stuff.

:confused:

[prc]

I will comment everything you said.

I will start with Covid. Brazil is the second or third country in absolute number of deaths by Covid-19. In April or May last year I was counting around of 10 deaths among my Social Circle. (people from my job, friends, friends of my friends)

Brazillian President Jair Bolsonaro is against vaccines, he is against vacine passport, he claims that he has not taken the covid vaccine and never will. But He is confrontted by our Supreme Court and governors and mayors. So what is valid in Brazil? Our Supreme Court has validated the covid passport. However no Brazillian is obliged to take the covid vaccine as per the SUpreme Court but the unvaccinated can be forbiden to enter restaurants, cinemas, theatres, football stadiums.

But Companies can oblige employees to take the vaccine and can axe employees if they have not vaccinated.

In the last November I lost an uncle fro Covid-19. He believed our president and thought covid was just a wee flu. He was not wearing masks he was going to disco on weekends. Two aunts and this uncle caught covid at the same time. First Aunt took steroids and anticoagulant, in 3 days she was all right and totally cured. My uncle and his wife took invermectin, azytromicin and hydroxycloroquine. He died and his wife is enduring sequelea from covid.

So my take about covid: Covid exists and has taken 620.000 lives in Brazil. Covid Vaccine cannot be called vaccine because it does not prevent decease but it managed to reduce from 4.000 death per day to just 150 death per day here in Brazil.
We are still using masks in closed public places and public transport.

Now About Ladi DI: I think the prospect of having an Egyptian Heir to the Throne of UK was too much for Royal Highness Quenn Elizabeth and Prince Phillip thus Lady Di had to be eliminated.

I am looking forward to hearing more controversies soon.

Take care.

Kind Regards,

[XelNaga]

Mod Hat On:

SPIRIT WOLF.

Maybe next time when you have some valuable information to impart, just put it out there. When gathering a crowd, give them what they've been called to hear, don't keep them endlessly waiting else they may begin to feel used and become disgruntled.

This is Human Nature 101.

You're kind, Gracy. Disgruntled is putting it mildly. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/anger-pull-hair.gif

SPIRIT WOLF lost me at (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117180-Coming-soon................conspiracy-corner&p=1470913&viewfull=1#post1470913): 1) UNVACCINATED people 2) these selfish inconsiderate excuses for human beings 3) these selfish bastards 4) these bloody disgrace of a human being.

Me too, and I was really looking forward to this thread.

I'm actually rather surprised, if someone asked me I would be willing to bet that there are no "those types of people" on Avalon.

I mean, come on, really, if anyone still believes in anything good from vaccines and masks, and is still afraid of this "virus", I'm afraid there is no hope for them.

[Agape]

I know Spirit Wolfs health has been undermined previously and in medical emergency for years. This being very sensitive matter anyone can find out for themselves where is the border line between having “small health issues” and serious issues taking over chronically demanding discipline every day, special regimes, treatments, medicines and otherwise coping with situation of disability.
For cardiacs and many others with underlying chronic condition even an ordinary flu may inflate state of inflammation , sometimes takes people down by night.

Count in cold winter weather.

The situation of Covid infections is strictly individual so far, more people pass with light, moderate or no symptoms than those requiring life saving treatment but since there multitudes of vulnerable individuals out there on the edge of more serious state of disease the case can’t be helped a lot.


We all could happen to be here today but not tomorrow. We just don’t know “really”. Only God knows all days and hours.


🎄

[The Moss Trooper]

I know Spirit Wolfs health has been undermined previously and in medical emergency for years. This being very sensitive matter anyone can find out for themselves where is the border line between having “small health issues” and serious issues taking over chronically demanding discipline every day, special regimes, treatments, medicines and otherwise coping with situation of disability.
For cardiacs and many others with underlying chronic condition even an ordinary flu may inflate state of inflammation , sometimes takes people down by night.

Count in cold winter weather.

The situation of Covid infections is strictly individual so far, more people pass with light, moderate or no symptoms than those requiring life saving treatment but since there multitudes of vulnerable individuals out there on the edge of more serious state of disease the case can’t be helped a lot.


We all could happen to be here today but not tomorrow. We just don’t know “really”. Only God knows all days and hours.


🎄


Yes, I suppose we can blame rudeness and being judgemental on failing health if we so choose. There's a whole host of excuses at the ready if one so desires, you've got your old-age, male pattern baldness, lowered immunity, especially if one has been following the government's advice........


I can see a completely different scene emerging. Some of the things mentioned by Spirit Wolf may well have been "shocking" or "controversial" 20+ years ago, but not so now, not since we are in the age of info-overload.

Maybe the most "shocking & controversial" things in this thread are going to be Spirit Wolf's views.

Just sayin'.

[Strat]

Ohhhh everyone chill.

[Open Minded Dude]

So ... er ... well, ... what was this thread about then again ?

:noidea::bs::bounce::banplease::lock1::drum::closed::girl_wink::cheers::shout::gaah:

(yes, I love the smilies)

[ExomatrixTV]

How many Avalonians are aware that humanity had few years ago an official "List of proven conspiracies" on Wikipedia for the whole world to see for couple years and it grew and grew and grew to the point they decided to take this very impressive list down all together ... there are some snapshots somewhere on the net ... and when you study this very impressive list you will notice NONE of them were "fake news" nor "dis-info" just cold hard facts ... it was way too obvious for all "neutrals" to realize there IS a pattern of corruption in almost all layers of society ... this insight may trigger a snowball-effect of ever-growing conspiracy researchers exposing NWO Tyranny 24/7 worldwide ... and the Ultra Elite, most likely, does not want that to happen.

I will search for that (cashed/backed up) "List of proven conspiracies" of Wikipedia ... brb (drum-roll again ...) ;)

... am back with 4 options:


source 1 (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/wiki/lopc/)
source 2 (https://libredd.it/r/conspiracy/comments/8qm9uu/the_new_list_of_proven_conspiracies_community/)
source 3 (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/70qvx7/updated_list_of_proven_conspiracies_and_hidden/) (updated list).
source 4 (https://www.reddit.com/r/DonOperInfo/comments/epe86b/the_new_list_of_proven_conspiracies_community/) (The new "List of proven conspiracies." community input welcome!).


In 2020 & 2021 there several new: "Conspiracy Theories That Actually Turned Out to Be True" sites & videos made like this (https://www.rd.com/list/conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/) ... but most are repeating stuff that almost all conspiracy researchers are familiar with ... So it would be cool to have a real new list of proven conspiracies that is at least 50% exclusive and truly recent ... New discoveries like declassified FOIA (former) Secret Documents (https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/)combined with first hand eyewitness accounts or other trusted sources verifying what is claimed.
--o-O-o--

For believers proof is not necessary ... for non-believers proof is never good enough or "impossible" ... BOTH believers & non-believers suk! ... Because they want everything to be spoon-fed to them! ... It takes more effort to go beyond the conditioning (for or against).

I avoid the use of the word "believe" for a very good reason ... I rather consider ... or I know ... or I am aware ... or I have experienced ... etc. etc. ... (believe systems often begs to be corrected) ... the moment some one asks you: "Do you beLIEve?" it is a MIND TRAP to lure you in to assuming that there is "nothing" to know or to experience.

Am not seeking agreement ... nor the opposite ... as long as I stay in my own integrity and self-honesty ... we all have to deal with (partial altered) perceptions ... with many assumptions that are based upon what has been spoon-fed to all of us in a certain way ... Letting go of the "need for agreement" is very liberating and still respecting other points of view! ... Nobody has "all the right answers" and nobody has all the "wrong answers" either. There a lot people who want to control the narrative fanatically (left & right). This extreme need to force one-sided thinking is often a sign of severe insecurity.

Real Honest Conspiracy Researchers studies Proven Conspiracy Facts and sometimes have "Theories" about KNOWN liars mixed with hard evidence of corruption, colluding, deceptions etc. To label some one "Conspiracy Theorists" is to falsely assume that some one "only" cooks up "theories". This need to control the narrative by MSM is part of mass dumbing down of a nation!

Look up the word "Conspiracy" in any (LAW) Dictionary ... then ask yourself is that "science fiction"? ... When 2 or more people prepare to commit a crime or to do harm is that so "far fetched"? ... What MSM tries to do is you to be associated with certain people that are FAR from being a true researchers or being an honest conspiracy analyst. The reason MSM never can share an honest representation of that what they attack is because they assume most will not verify their own sold claims & judgemental assumptions to them! So they count on you being lazy!

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳 aka ExomatrixTV
December 29, 2021

[ExomatrixTV]

List of Proven Conspiracies (Still Growing Every Day!)


This compilation of facts is the result of the r/conspiracy (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/) community's efforts over the years to distribute information between ourselves. Many users contributed to this list, some unknowingly. This list will be constantly updated as new information is discovered. Everything has been roughly placed into categories for easier reading.
(As far as I know, this is the list that will be featured on the r/conspiracy (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/) "LOPC" wiki page.)

If you see anything important that was missed, please let us know in the comments. The more people who contribute, the larger the list gets. If you were looking for a post to share with others outside of this community (friends, family, strangers) to show them the overwhelming amount of conspiracy facts out there, feel free to share this post. Enjoy!

Human Experimentation And Medical Malpractice:


MKULTRA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public. A government report provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979 http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience (http://archive.is/4nxNI)
Over and over again, the military has conducted dangerous biowarfare experiments on Americans http://www.businessinsider.com/military-government-secret-experiments-biological-chemical-weapons-2016-9 (http://archive.is/Za5UX)
U.S. secretly tested carcinogen in Western Canada during the Cold War, researcher finds. The Pentagon never told the Canadian government that it would be spraying a chemical on Winnipeg and two Alberta towns. http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/u-s-secretly-tested-carcinogen-in-western-canada-during-the-cold-war-researcher-discovers (http://archive.is/vUyb4)
Operation LAC (Large Area Coverage) was a U.S. Army Chemical Corps operation which dispersed microscopic zinc cadmium sulfide (ZnCdS) particles over much of the United States. The purpose was to determine the dispersion and geographic range of biological or chemical agents. Principally, the operation involved spraying large areas with zinc cadmium sulfide.[2] The U.S. Air Force loaned the Army a C-119, "Flying Boxcar", and it was used to disperse zinc cadmium sulfide by the ton in the atmosphere over the United States. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_LAC (http://archive.is/smWSp)
From 1955 to 1972, Army doctors gave soldier 'volunteers' synthetic marijuana, LSD and two dozen other psychoactive drugs during experiments aimed at developing chemical weapons that could incapacitate enemy soldiers. https://www.wired.com/2007/04/the_secrets_of_/ (http://archive.is/UYyWk)
'Operation Delirium:' Psychochemicals And Cold War - "Throughout the 1950s and '60s, at the now-crumbling Edgewood Arsenal by the Chesapeake Bay in Maryland, military doctors tested the effects of nerve gas, LSD and other drugs on 5,000 U.S. soldiers to gauge the effects on their brain and behavior." https://www.npr.org/2012/12/11/166891159/operation-delirium-psychochemicals-and-cold-war (archive.org (https://web.archive.org/web/20121212040005/https://www.npr.org/2012/12/11/166891159/operation-delirium-psychochemicals-and-cold-war)) (documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1GAaWy3HTw)
From 1963 to 1966, Saul Krugman of New York University promised the parents of mentally disabled children that their children would be enrolled into Willowbrook in exchange for signing a consent form for procedures that he claimed were "vaccinations." In reality, the procedures involved deliberately infecting children with viral hepatitis by feeding them an extract made from the feces of patients infected with the disease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States#1950s
Immediately after World War II, researchers at Vanderbilt University gave 829 pregnant mothers in Tennessee what they were told were "vitamin drinks" that would improve the health of their babies. The mixtures contained radioactive iron and the researchers were determining how fast the radioisotope crossed into the placenta. At least three children are known to have died from the experiments, from cancers and leukemia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States#Experiments_involving_other_radioactive_materia ls
The Fernald School for the "feeble minded" was part of America's Eugenics movement, and the children there performed most manual labor, including cutting up the brains of mentally disabled people for scientific study. The boys were also given radioactive oatmeal in a study for Quaker Oats. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/americas-deep-dark-secret/
The Imperial Japanese Army's notorious medical research team carried out secret human experiments regarded as some of the worst war crimes in history. Its scientists subjected more than 10,000 people per year to grotesque Josef Mengele-style torture in the name of science, including captured Russian soldiers and downed American aircrews. The experiments included hanging people upside down until they choked, burying them alive, injecting air into their veins and placing them in high-pressure chambers. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/7236099/Human-bones-could-reveal-truth-of-Japans-Unit-731-experiments.html (http://archive.is/hojxN)
Israel has admitted for the first time that it has been giving Ethiopian Jewish immigrants birth-control injections, often without their knowledge or consent. “They [medical staff] told us they are inoculations. We took it every three months. We said we didn’t want to.” http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html
Guatemala syphilis experiment: American medical research project that lasted from 1946 to 1948 and is known for its unethical experimentation on vulnerable human populations in Guatemala. The Guatemala experiments remained a largely unknown event in U.S. medical history until the early 2000s. The total study population included more than 5,500 Guatemalan prisoners, sex workers, soldiers, children, and psychiatric patients, about one-quarter of whom were deliberately infected with syphilis, gonorrhea, or chancroid and all of whom were enrolled in the experiments without their consent. Among the most controversial methods used was “normal exposure,” in which sex workers infected with syphilis were used to transmit the disease to unsuspecting prisoners. Approximately 1,308 soldiers, prisoners, sex workers, and psychiatric patients, ranging from age 10 to 72, were intentionally exposed to STDs during the study. Syphilis exposure occurred through inoculation of the cervix in sex workers; through injection or direct sexual contact with infected sex workers in prisoners; and through injection, inoculation (via abrasion) of the penis, cisternal puncture (the insertion of a needle below the occipital bone at the back of the skull to access cerebrospinal fluid), or oral ingestion in psychiatric patients. Exposure to gonorrhea was carried out in sex workers through cervical inoculation and in Guatemalan soldiers through sexual contact with the sex workers and sometimes through urethral inoculation. https://www.britannica.com/event/Guatemala-syphilis-experiment (http://archive.is/8OmW9)
Tuskegee syphilis experiment an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service. The purpose of this study was to observe the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African-American men in Alabama under the guise of receiving free health care from the United States government. The Public Health Service started working on this study in 1932 in collaboration with Tuskegee University, a historically black college in Alabama. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 622 impoverished, African-American sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama. Of these men, 431 had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 169[3] did not have the disease. The men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance for participating in the study. The men were told that the study was only going to last six months, but it actually lasted 40 years.[4] After funding for treatment was lost, the study was continued without informing the men that they would never be treated. None of the men infected were ever told that they had the disease, and none were treated with penicillin even after the antibiotic was proven to successfully treat syphilis. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told that they were being treated for "bad blood", a colloquialism that described various conditions such as syphilis, anemia, and fatigue. "Bad blood"—specifically the collection of illnesses the term included—was a leading cause of death within the southern African-American community.[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment (http://archive.is/xGIQp)

Political:


Operation Snow White was a criminal conspiracy by the Church of Scientology during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder, L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations into and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members in more than 30 countries.[1] It was one of the largest infiltrations of the United States government in history,[2] with up to 5,000 covert agents.[3] This operation also exposed the Scientology plot 'Operation Freakout', because Operation Snow White was the case that initiated the U.S. government's investigation of the Church.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
"Between 1969 and 1973, the U.S. dropped half-a-million tons of bombs on Cambodia alone, killing at least 100,000 civilians. Given that Nixon had been elected on a promise to end the war in Vietnam, Kissinger believed that it wasn’t enough to place Menu in the category of 'top secret.' Absolute and total secrecy, especially from Congress, was a necessity. He had no doubt that Congress, crucial to the appropriation of funds needed to conduct specific military missions, would never approve a bombing campaign against a neutral country with which the United States wasn’t at war." https://www.salon.com/2015/11/10/henry_kissingers_genocidal_legacy_partner/ (http://archive.is/4NMTE)
The Bush Administration used a "psychological operation" against the American public called the "Pentagon Military Analyst Program" to secretly spread pro-Government talking points through the media for years. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html
The CIA infiltrated the presidential campaign of Barry Goldwater on behalf of President Lyndon Johnson. They obtained copies of speeches and other material from the Goldwater campaign and gave them to President Johnson so he could respond to the points made before he read his speeches. CIA officer E. Howard Hunt was in charge of the spying operation. Hunt later retired from the CIA in 1970 and was hired by the White House in 1972 to lead a unit known as the Plumbers that was dedicated to plugging leaks within the Nixon administration, playing dirty tricks on Nixon’s opponents and obtaining political intelligence. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/22/cia-fbi-spy-presidential-campaign-trump-goldwater-218415
"The Enterprise." ''The organization that Richard Secord ran at Lieut. Col. Oliver North's direction controlled five aircraft, including C-123 and C-7 transports. It had an airfield in one country, warehouse facilities at an air base in another, a stockpile of guns and military equipment to drop by air to the contras and secure communications equipment obtained by North from the National Security Agency.''http://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/19/world/the-iran-contra-report-what-the-enterprise-was.html (Documentary on this topic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJldun440Sk))
In its determination to secure a nuclear deal with Iran, the Obama administration derailed an ambitious law enforcement campaign targeting drug trafficking by the Iranian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah, even as it was funneling cocaine into the United States, according to a POLITICO investigation. https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/
The indictment of Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, suggested that the president’s top lieutenant for part of last year was a highly paid agent for pro-Russian foreign interests. And the guilty plea extracted from George Papadopoulos, the foreign policy adviser, confirmed the second known attempt by Mr. Trump’s team to tap Moscow for damaging information on Mrs. Clinton, coming months before his son Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer for the same purpose. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/trump-manafort-indictment-analysis.html
Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC, by Donna Brazile. Per an agreement between the Clinton Campaign and the DNC: In exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
Israeli Operatives Who Aided Harvey Weinstein Collected Information on Former Obama Administration Officials to undermine the Iran Nuclear Deal https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/israeli-operatives-who-aided-harvey-weinstein-collected-information-on-former-obama-administration-officials
In its self-described "pied piper" strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new "mainstream of the Republican Party" in order to try to increase Clinton's chances of winning, telling the press to take Trump, Ben Carson, and Ted Cruz seriously, rather than marginalizing them. http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

Big Pharma:


"The pharmaceutical group GlaxoSmithKline has been fined $3 billion after admitting to bribing doctors and encouraging the prescription of unsuitable antidepressants to children." http://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/jul/03/glaxosmithkline-fined-bribing-doctors-pharmaceuticals
"The British former boss of GlaxoSmithKline in China will be deported back to the UK after pleading guilty to bribery-related charges and being handed a three-year suspended prison sentence. Mark Reilly had been barred from leaving China for the past year and accused of overseeing a 'criminal godfather' scheme to bribe doctors with £300m worth of cash and sex to prescribe GSK drugs." https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/sep/19/glaxosmithkline-china-mark-reilly-deported-uk-guilty-bribery-hunan
Amid a targeted lobbying effort, pharmaceutical company lobbyists convinced Congress to weaken the DEA’s ability to go after prescription drug distributors, even as opioid-related deaths continue to rise, a Washington Post and ‘60 Minutes’ investigation finds. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/investigations/dea-drug-industry-congress/?utm_term=.42d91d09e9ea
"The CEO of drug giant Insys Therapeutics bribed doctors to prescribe more opioids to patients who didn’t need them, according to federal authorities who arrested the executive after a raid... John Kapoor, the billionaire founder and CEO, led “a nationwide conspiracy to profit by using bribes and fraud to cause the illegal distribution of a fentanyl spray intended for cancer patients..." http://www.newsweek.com/big-pharma-opioid-crisis-bribery-arrest-694154
"In Guilty Plea, OxyContin Maker to Pay $600 Million. The company that makes the narcotic painkiller OxyContin and three current and former executives pleaded guilty in federal court to criminal charges that they misled regulators, doctors and patients about the drug’s risk of addiction and its potential to be abused. Company sales officials were allowed to draw their own fake scientific charts which showed a lower addictive potential, which they then distributed to doctors." http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/business/11drug-web.html
"Pharmaceutical giant Aspen plotted to destroy life-saving cancer medicines in order to drive prices up by 4,000%" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/drug-giant-aspen-plot-destroy-cancer-medicine-big-pharma-times-investigation-a7683521.html#
Federal prosecutors have charged a New York doctor with accepting cash bribes and tickets to Justin Bieber and Katy Perry concerts from a New Jersey blood lab. Thirty-eight people have pleaded guilty in connection with the bribery scheme. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NY-Doctor-Accepted-Cash-Justin-Bieber-Tickets-as-Bribes-From-NJ-Blood-Lab-Prosecutors-321723492.html

False Flags


Operation Northwoods- A plan to create false flag acts of terrorism against US citizens in order to provoke support for a war against Cuba. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 (PDF of the actual document: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf)
The Lavon affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
On 4 April 1953, the CIA was ordered to undermine the government of Iran over a four-month period, as a precursor to overthrowing Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh. One tactic used to undermine Mosaddegh was to carry out false flag attacks "on mosques and key public figures", to be blamed on Iranian communists loyal to the government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag#Project_TP-Ajax
In 1985, the French foreign intelligence services infiltrated and sank a Greenpeace ship and blamed it on terrorists. The French government wanted to prevent the ship from interfering with a planned nuclear test. One crew member died. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior
The Bay of Pigs Invasion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
Nearly 50 years before the war in Iraq, Britain and America sought a secretive "regime change" in another Arab country they accused of spreading terror and threatening the west's oil supplies, by planning the invasion of Syria and the assassination of leading figures. Newly discovered documents show how in 1957 Harold Macmillan and President Dwight Eisenhower approved a CIA-MI6 plan to stage fake border incidents as an excuse for an invasion by Syria's pro-western neighbours, and then to "eliminate" the most influential triumvirate in Damascus. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/sep/27/uk.syria1

Water quality:


NYC fudged records to show day care centers’ water was tested for lead, but no tests were performed. DOHMH — the agency that's required to inspect all 11,000 child care centers in New York City annually — had more or less given up on the task. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-faked-day-care-centers-lead-water-level-test-records-article-1.2686760 (http://archive.is/qyTaC)
5,300 U.S. water systems are in violation of lead rules http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/us/epa-lead-in-u-s-water-systems/ (http://archive.is/DYMBq)
US authorities distorting tests to downplay lead content of water https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jan/22/water-lead-content-tests-us-authorities-distorting-flint-crisis (http://archive.is/z00lw)
"Records analyzed by The New York Times indicate that the Clean Water Act has been violated more than 506,000 times since 2004, by more than 23,000 companies and other facilities, according to reports submitted by polluters themselves." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/us/13water.html (http://archive.is/HOSNv)
Chicago Tribune: 11,000 Crestwood, Illinois residents were knowingly given tapwater contaminated with cancer-causing chemicals for 40 years. Federal agents raided Crestwood's village hall, their Department of Public Works building, and the police department. http://archive.is/D7Ddc , http://archive.is/V9Btl

The Government's influence in TV shows and movies:


Washington DC’s role behind the scenes in Hollywood goes deeper than you think. "On television, we found more than 1,100 titles received Pentagon backing – 900 of them since 2005, from ‘Flight 93’ to ‘Ice Road Truckers’ and ‘Army Wives.' Between 1911 and 2017, more than 800 feature films received support from the US Government’s Department of Defence (DoD), a significantly higher figure than previous estimates indicate. These included blockbuster franchises such as Transformers, Iron Man, and The Terminator. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washington-dc-films-fbi-24-intervening-close-relationship-a7918191.html (http://archive.is/bbMwx)
"All these people that run studios - they go to Washington, they hang around with senators, they hang around with CIA directors, and everybody's on board." https://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/nov/14/thriller-ridley-scott (http://archive.is/N2TRT)
Over the decades, the relationship between Hollywood and the military has served the needs of both sides: Filmmakers gain access to equipment, locations, personnel and information that lend their productions authenticity, while the armed forces get some measure of control over how they're depicted. That's important not just for recruiting but also for guiding the behavior of current troops and appealing to the U.S. taxpayers who foot the bills. National CineMedia, which sells ads in movie theaters, paired the Army and 20th Century Fox for a marketing campaign designed to reach potential recruits. The campaign intercut footage from the Fox superhero movie "X-Men: First Class" with images of real soldiers as a voice-over intoned, "Heroes — ordinary people who discover they can do extraordinary things." The spots played in cinemas, and exit polls of 17- to 24-year-olds leaving the movie theater found that those who saw the ad were 25% more likely to say they would consider joining the Army. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/21/entertainment/la-ca-military-movies-20110821 (http://archive.is/01L57)
How the CIA Helped Make “Zero Dark Thirty” - Behind the scenes, the CIA secretly worked with the filmmakers, and the movie portrayed the agency’s controversial “enhanced interrogation techniques” — widely described as torture — as a key to uncovering information that led to the finding and killing of bin Laden... but the massive Senate torture report released in December 2014 found that the program was brutal, mismanaged and — most importantly — didn’t work. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/watch-how-the-cia-helped-make-zero-dark-thirty/ (http://archive.is/zIRh0)

Banking:


Everything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal Ever http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425 (http://archive.is/etdQa)
Libor Scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal
Citicorp (C), JPMorgan Chase (JPM), Barclays (BCS) and Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) agreed to pay more than $5 billion for conspiring to fix the price of U.S. dollars and euros, the Justice Department said Wednesday. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-rare-admission-of-guilt-wall-st-banks-admit-they-rigged-markets/
Wachovia bank paid out a fine less than 2% of the bank's $12.3bn profit for 2009 for laundering money for drug cartels https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
HSBC pays out 1.9 Billion dollar fine for laundering money for drug cartels. "Obviously, $1.9 billion is a very large number, but it's very manageable" without affecting HSBC's bottom line, said Ian Gordon, head of bank research for Investec Securities in London. "It's clearly within market expectations." http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/12/11/hsbc-laundering-probe/1760351/
The US department of justice said HSBC had moved $881m for two drug cartels in Mexico and Colombia and accepted $15bn in unexplained "bulk cash", across the bank's counters in Mexico, Russia and other countries. In some branches the boxes of cash being deposited were so big the tellers' windows had to be enlarged. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/dec/14/hsbc-money-laundering-fine-management (http://archive.is/adOf8)

Surveillance:


"Four Central Intelligence Agency officers were embedded with the New York Police Department in the decade after Sept. 11, 2001, including one official who helped conduct surveillance operations in the United States, according to a newly disclosed C.I.A. inspector general’s report. That officer believed there were “no limitations” on his activities, the report said, because he was on an unpaid leave of absence, and thus exempt from the prohibition against domestic spying by members of the C.I.A. Another embedded C.I.A. analyst — who was on its payroll — said he was given 'unfiltered' police reports that included information unrelated to foreign intelligence, the C.I.A. report said." https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/27/nyregion/cia-sees-concerns-on-ties-to-new-york-police.html (http://archive.is/yKwIa)
"The C.I.A. monitoring of journalists in 1963, 1971 and 1972, including wiretapping their phones and setting up observation posts across the street from their offices to track their comings and goings and their visitors, was a practice that the White House itself employed during the Nixon administration." https://washington.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/project-mockingbird/ (http://archive.is/pp4YM)
Operation Chaos, Project Merrimac, and Project Resistance were three related CIA domestic spying programs. The purpose of 'Chaos' was to "amass files on Americans suspected of being domestic dissidents" and look into any foreign influence on leftist movements. Under Merrimac, "CIA agents infiltrated peace groups and black activist groups with the aim of anticipating attacks on the agency itself." The aim of project Resistance was to "compile information on radical groups that might target CIA activities or assets. The program compiled information from around the country, but specifically targeted college campuses in its search for radical elements. The CIA obtained additional information from local police, and campus officials." https://www.salon.com/2014/03/20/8_times_the_cia_used_american_spies_to_spy_on_americans_partner/ (http://archive.is/GJyNa)
CBS 60 Minutes: "The top secret surveillance network is called Eschelon." (13 minutes, reported by CBS prior to 9/11) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfdm78zcv8o
NSA 'offers intelligence to British counterparts to skirt UK law' http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jun/10/nsa-offers-intelligence-british-counterparts-blunkett (http://archive.is/lJDaY)
NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents (http://archive.is/0CqqZ)
"Britain's GCHQ intelligence agency can spy on anyone but British nationals, the NSA can conduct surveillance on anyone but Americans, and Germany's BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst) foreign intelligence agency can spy on anyone but Germans. That's how a matrix is created of boundless surveillance in which each partner aids in a division of roles. http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/secret-documents-nsa-targeted-germany-and-eu-buildings-a-908609.html (http://archive.is/lZseh)
Inside the secret world of the corporate spies who infiltrate protests https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/12/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-corporate-spies-who-infiltrate-protests
Wal-Mart hired Lockheed Martin to monitor union organizing among their employees. https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-walmart-union-surveillance/ (http://archive.is/RIk5V)
"Cops scan social media to help assess your ‘threat rating’" http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/12/12/police-data-mining-looks-through-social-media-assigns-you-a-threat-level/

Science Whistleblowers and information about little-known problems in science:


Scientific American: How Pharma-Funded Research Cherry-Picks Positive Results https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trial-sans-error-how-pharma-funded-research-cherry-picks-positive-results/
Richard Horton, editor in chief of The Lancet, recently wrote: “Much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness. As one participant put it, “poor methods get results”. http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf
In 2009, Dr. Marcia Angell of the New England Journal of Medicine wrote: “It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.” http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jan/15/drug-companies-doctorsa-story-of-corruption/
"I can't tell you exactly what percentage of the trials are flawed, but I think the problem is far bigger than you imagine, and getting worse...it is so easy to manipulate data, conceal it or fabricate it...there is almost a code of silence not to speak about it." -Whistleblower Dr. Peter Wilmshurst http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/spiegel-interview-with-whistleblower-doctor-peter-wilmshurst-a-1052159.html
Silencing the Scientist: Tyrone Hayes on Being Targeted by Herbicide Firm Syngenta http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/21/silencing_the_scientist_tyrone_hayes_on
Back in the 1960s, a sugar industry executive wrote fat checks to a group of Harvard researchers so that they’d downplay the links between sugar and heart disease in a prominent medical journal—and the researchers did it, according to historical documents reported in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine. One of those Harvard researchers went on to become the head of nutrition at the United States Department of Agriculture, where he set the stage for the federal government’s current dietary guidelines. All in all, the corrupted researchers and skewed scientific literature successfully helped draw attention away from the health risks of sweets and shift the blame solely to fats—for nearly five decades. The low-fat, high-sugar diets that health experts subsequently encouraged are now seen as a main driver of the current obesity epidemic. http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/09/sugar-industry-bought-off-scientists-skewed-dietary-guidelines-for-decades/
Scientific American: How the FDA and other scientific institutions manipulate the media using "close-hold embargoes" and other shady tactics https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-fda-manipulates-the-media/

Miscellaneous:


The 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack was the food poisoning of 751 individuals in The Dalles, Oregon, through the deliberate contamination of salad bars at ten local restaurants with Salmonella. A leading group of followers of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (later known as Osho) called Rajneeshees had hoped to incapacitate the voting population of the city so that their own candidates would win the 1984 Wasco County elections.[2] The incident was the first and single largest bioterrorist attack in United States history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack
Harvey Weinstein’s Army of Spies. The film executive hired private investigators, including ex-Mossad agents, to track actresses and journalists. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-army-of-spies
"EPA officials were aware of the severity of danger at Ground Zero in contrast to their public statements at the time." NYC allowed people to return after the collapse of the towers because the mayor's office was under pressure from business owners to open more of the "red zone." http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/07/nyc.air/index.html?section=cnn_health
A suppressed report reveals that some of Britain's most respected industries, including law firms, telecoms giants and insurance companies routinely hire criminals to steal rivals' information. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-other-hacking-scandal-suppressed-report-reveals-that-law-firms-telecoms-giants-and-insurance-8669148.html
Volkswagen systematically cheated on U.S. air pollution tests as part of their "Clean Diesel" Scheme by dynamically modifying car performance with software that turns on full pollution controls only during official testing, a scheme that is set to cost them $18bn http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-19/vw-clean-diesel-scheme-exposed-as-u-s-weighs-criminal-charges
A government-controlled industry group targeted popular food bloggers, major publications and a celebrity chef as part of its sweeping effort to combat a perceived threat from an egg-replacement startup backed by some of Silicon Valley’s biggest names. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/06/usda-american-egg-board-paid-bloggers-hampton-creek
The forgotten history of how automakers invented the crime of "jaywalking" https://www.vox.com/2015/1/15/7551873/jaywalking-history
Government and Corporate control of social media, spreading propaganda and advertising disguised as average people. https://np.reddit.com/r/shills/comments/4kdq7n/astroturfing_information_megathread_revision_8/ (https://libredd.it/r/shills/comments/4kdq7n/astroturfing_information_megathread_revision_8/)
In 1992, Dateline N.B.C issued an on-air apology for airing a story that claimed a GM truck burst into flames after a side-impact crash. Investigators found the truck in a junkyard and discovered an incendiary device to cause the flame. The Newsdivision president resigned and 3 producers fired. https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/THRIVING-ON-FAILURE-3158547.php
Child abuse documentary Hollywood 'didn't want you to see' goes viral https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/01/an-open-secret-hollywood-child-abuse-documentary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO (Here's a documentary) (https://vimeo.com/15930463)
Operation Paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
Operation Mockingbird - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird (Footage of hearings from the 70s [3:12]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCfTIapds0)
CIA Files Prove America Helped Saddam as He Gassed Iran http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/
On the Russian news outlet "RT," any direct criticism or questioning of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin or President Dmitry Medvedev is strictly prohibited. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-today-tomorrow-the-world-2083869.html
Tulsa Race Riot - On May 31 and June 1, 1921, a white mob started the Tulsa race riot, attacking residents and businesses of the African-American community of Greenwood in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in what is considered one of the worst incidents of racial violence in United States history. The attack, carried out on the ground and by air, destroyed more than 35 blocks of the district, at the time the wealthiest black community in the nation. More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals and more than 6,000 black residents were arrested and detained, many for several days. The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded 39 dead, but the American Red Cross estimated 300, a number supported by historians since then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Big_Buzz
Project 112 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_112
A division of the pharmaceutical company Bayer sold millions of dollars of blood-clotting medicine for hemophiliacs -- medicine that carried a high risk of transmitting AIDS -- to Asia and Latin America in the mid-1980's while selling a new, safer product in the West. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/22/business/2-paths-of-bayer-drug-in-80-s-riskier-one-steered-overseas.html
CIA heart attack gun that uses a frozen dart that dissolves in the body. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSEnurBApdM The toxin was undetectable in autopsies.
"The girl, whose testimony helped build support for the Persian Gulf war, was identified only as "Nayirah," supposedly to protect family members still in Kuwait. Another piece of information was also withheld: that she is not just some Kuwaiti but the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the U.S. How did the girl's testimony come about? It was arranged by the big public relations firm of Hill & Knowlton on behalf of a client, the Kuwaiti-sponsored Citizens for a Free Kuwait, which was then pressing Congress for military intervention. Mr. Lantos knew the girl's identity but concealed it from the public and from the other caucus co-chairman, Representative John E. Porter of Illinois." http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/15/opinion/deception-on-capitol-hill.html
The Black Panther Coloring Book https://www.vice.com/read/coloring-the-black-panthers
1985 - Police drop bomb on radicals' home in Philidephia. The fire spread to 50 to 60 other houses in the neighborhood. Steve Harmon, a resident of the area, said: ''Drop a bomb on a residential area? I never in my life heard of that. It's like Vietnam.'' http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/14/us/police-drop-bomb-on-radicals-home-in-philadelphia.html
Overthrow of the democratically-elected leader of Iran for BP Oil in 1953. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/19/cia-admits-role-1953-iranian-coup
Overthrow of the democratically-elected leader of Guatemala for the United Fruit company (now Chiquita) in 1954 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
Jan. 17, 1893 | Hawaiian Monarchy Overthrown by America-Backed Businessmen https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/17/jan-17-1893-hawaiian-monarchy-overthrown-by-america-backed-businessmen/?_r=0
The little-told story of how the U.S. government poisoned alcohol during Prohibition with deadly consequences. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/02/the_chemists_war.html
Widespread illegal adoptions in Ireland: "“This was a crime against these people and their mothers. Mothers who were told that their babies had died." Established cases were registered by St Patrick’s Guild adoption society between 1946 and 1969. The youngest person affected is 49 and the oldest is 72. https://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/illegal-adoptions-ireland

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[pseudo skeptic quote]: John you are a "Conspiracy Nut" [unquote]


my response:

Yeah it “must” be total nuts that we have laws to put people in prison (jail) for conspiring … totally nuts is that … what were they thinking? … When two or more people prepare to commit a crime or to do harm is totally “science fiction” … the lawmakers must also be “conspiracy nuts” then.

Conspiracy Researchers studies Proven Conspiracy Facts and sometimes have “Theories” about KNOWN liars mixed with hard evidence of corruption, colluding, deceptions etc. … To label some one “Conspiracy Theorists” is to FALSELY ASSUME that some one ‘only’ cooks up “theories”.

This desperate need to control the narrative by MSM is part of mass dumbing down of a nation! Look up the word “Conspiracy” in any (LAW) Dictionary … then ask yourself is that “science fiction”? … When 2 or more people prepare to commit a crime or to do harm is that so “far fetched” … what MSM tries to do is you to be associated with certain people that are FAR from being a true researchers or being an honest conspiracy analyst.

The reason MSM never can share an honest representation of that what they attack is because they assume most will not verify their own sold claims & judgemental assumptions to them! So they count on you being lazy!

Ask any police officer if they are allowed to have a theory when they investigating a possible crime … just ask them please … Then you will realize how stupid the framing really is.

TV Series like: “Inspector Columbo” (Peter Falk) would be pretty BORING if he was not allowed to have several theories when he is investigating a possible crime(s) and/or criminal suspect(s). You see they DEMONIZE any critical thinking exposing Government Puppet Politicians, Corrupted Mainstream Media, Hijacked “Protecting Agencies”, Big Pharma Mafia, Banksters with their Giant Fiat Money Pyramid Ponzi Scheme etc.

There is nothing wrong having theories ... but it will get wrong (really bad) when MSM get never get a "fact check" when they spew theories & (rigged) "computer models" / 'predicting the future' scare monger tactics 24/7 ... When we occasionally do it, they falsely assume it is meant as "absolute" or "only one way of thinking" like as if it is a fact.

So they first FRAME us (using straw-man argument tactics) then claim we are "spreading misleading/deceptive" information that can have consequences for their #Agenda2030 "Global Governance" plans ... But when they (msm) have theories, it will be treated as such by "fact checkers sites" leaving them alone as the theories HELPS to push their agenda when they are NOT openly challenged!

Meanwhile they are the ones using obvious misleading/deceptive framing techniques to silence any form of real opposition/resistance.

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cheers.
JohnKuhles 🦜🦋🌳 aka ExomatrixTV

[Bill Ryan]

CONFUSED!! Can admin kindly let me know why this thread has changed title, I started it as "Stepping out of the shadows....no triggers here" So please tell me why the change, many thanks

Barry, that was a different thread, started on 20 November. It's still right here:


Stepping out of the shadows, no triggers here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116903-Stepping-out-of-the-shadows-no-triggers-here)

This new thread was started by you on 21 December. :thumbsup:

:focus:

[SPIRIT WOLF]

I know Spirit Wolfs health has been undermined previously and in medical emergency for years. This being very sensitive matter anyone can find out for themselves where is the border line between having “small health issues” and serious issues taking over chronically demanding discipline every day, special regimes, treatments, medicines and otherwise coping with situation of disability.
For cardiacs and many others with underlying chronic condition even an ordinary flu may inflate state of inflammation , sometimes takes people down by night.

Count in cold winter weather.

The situation of Covid infections is strictly individual so far, more people pass with light, moderate or no symptoms than those requiring life saving treatment but since there multitudes of vulnerable individuals out there on the edge of more serious state of disease the case can’t be helped a lot.


We all could happen to be here today but not tomorrow. We just don’t know “really”. Only God knows all days and hours.


🎄


Yes, I suppose we can blame rudeness and being judgemental on failing health if we so choose. There's a whole host of excuses at the ready if one so desires, you've got your old-age, male pattern baldness, lowered immunity, especially if one has been following the government's advice........


I can see a completely different scene emerging. Some of the things mentioned by Spirit Wolf may well have been "shocking" or "controversial" 20+ years ago, but not so now, not since we are in the age of info-overload.

Maybe the most "shocking & controversial" things in this thread are going to be Spirit Wolf's views.

Just sayin'.

RUDENESS? If you seriously think by airing my views and opinions, which is my God given right, then kindly turn away from this thread, in fact I think Bill and/or Admin should close this thread as its becoming a quagmire of ill informed opinions about me and my posts.

ADMIN PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD IMMEDIATELY.......................EVERYONE CAN POST THEIR LITTLE MESSAGES ELSEWHERE.....................I TRIED TO ASSIST AND EDUCATE YOU BUT SEE THAT WAS IN VAIN, THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME, I'm out!!

[SPIRIT WOLF]

I know Spirit Wolfs health has been undermined previously and in medical emergency for years. This being very sensitive matter anyone can find out for themselves where is the border line between having “small health issues” and serious issues taking over chronically demanding discipline every day, special regimes, treatments, medicines and otherwise coping with situation of disability.
For cardiacs and many others with underlying chronic condition even an ordinary flu may inflate state of inflammation , sometimes takes people down by night.

Count in cold winter weather.

The situation of Covid infections is strictly individual so far, more people pass with light, moderate or no symptoms than those requiring life saving treatment but since there multitudes of vulnerable individuals out there on the edge of more serious state of disease the case can’t be helped a lot.


We all could happen to be here today but not tomorrow. We just don’t know “really”. Only God knows all days and hours.


🎄


Yes, I suppose we can blame rudeness and being judgemental on failing health if we so choose. There's a whole host of excuses at the ready if one so desires, you've got your old-age, male pattern baldness, lowered immunity, especially if one has been following the government's advice........


I can see a completely different scene emerging. Some of the things mentioned by Spirit Wolf may well have been "shocking" or "controversial" 20+ years ago, but not so now, not since we are in the age of info-overload.

Maybe the most "shocking & controversial" things in this thread are going to be Spirit Wolf's views.

Just sayin'.

Yes I guess all those in the Internet/youtube age believe they know it all anyway, just ask Google!! As wishing to have this thread CLOSED BY ADMIN you are unfortunately NEVER going to learn anything else from me, after all, you said I'm 20/30 years out of date, so carry on googling and youtubing guys. Nothing new to you all as all knows everything already.

[Tyy1907]

It saddens me how you were jumped on like that Spirit Wolf. Keep living your truth. :)

[Delight]

It would be great to see us always shifting our thinking. Most of the time, people get on a train of thought and just will not get off.

My major frustration with rehashing the same matters continuously is that one digs oneself deeper into that corner of the collective mind. I am BORED with everything about covid for one.

THERE ARE MANY RABBIT HOLES TO FALL IN.

It is not hard to turn away from all the stories, IF we have something more satisfying to explore. I am onto the choice to seek God, not the world.

IMO we are sincerely in a master class concerning CHOICE of where we place out attention. IMO we are in new paradigm of relationship with the Infinite Intelligence. The healing and renewal is REAL. We can actually clear off all the collective trauma we have gathered.

It is about a path of an unknown quality... IMO it is the path of earth infused 100% with the Light of God. IMO we must be willing to forgive to be forgiven. IMO that includes letting go of a tendency to regurgitate the narratives we learned and entrench these scenes in our reality.

If you think about it, there is NOthing True in our memories, memories are a gestalt of our psyche. IMO we need to forget the past because the past is shattered into a million versions. We MUST move forward into unfolding Truth, which is being revealed. This is a journey .It is hopeful to be able to launch into an unfamiliar mystery... It is necessary to forgive and to surrender all the mental versions of our beliefs. IMO with the Search for God, one who seeks finds. However, the mystery continues.

[DaveToo]

It saddens me how you were jumped on like that Spirit Wolf. Keep living your truth. :)

To be fair, Spirit Wolf started another thread on Nov 20, 2021 entitled "Stepping out of the shadows, no triggers here" in which he wasted no time getting down to business.

He whipped off no less than 24 posts in short order, his last coming on Dec 20, 2021.


On Dec 21, he started a new thread entitled "Coming soon................conspiracy corner" (this thread).

However for this second thread, he simply stated that he would be posting "controversial views and opinions" and asked people to wait for them.
He received huge encouragement just by posting a few words.

A couple of posts later, Dec 23, he again asked for patience...

A couple more posts later, Dec 25, still asking for patience...
now asking to wait until Jan 2022 because of health issues.

Later on Dec 25 he made his first substantial post in this thread, taking dead aim at anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers.
Then the same day he came back and did a quick take on Lady Di.

Then he came back and DIDN'T REALIZE he has TWO live threads now.
He thought his first thread (mentioned above) was renamed to this second thread he started!!!

And finally he came back Dec 26 and started talking about Bioweapons and AIDS.

So Tyy, he has been given plenty of leeway and opportunity to speak his mind already.

[Bubu]

If one tries to look from another angle. This thread is a good entertainment. 5 pages of good chuckle.

[Tyy1907]

It saddens me how you were jumped on like that Spirit Wolf. Keep living your truth. :)

To be fair, Spirit Wolf started another thread on Nov 20, 2021 entitled "Stepping out of the shadows, no triggers here" in which he wasted no time getting down to business.

He whipped off no less than 24 posts in short order, his last coming on Dec 20, 2021.


On Dec 21, he started a new thread entitled "Coming soon................conspiracy corner" (this thread).

However for this second thread, he simply stated that he would be posting "controversial views and opinions" and asked people to wait for them.
He received huge encouragement just by posting a few words.

A couple of posts later, Dec 23, he again asked for patience...

A couple more posts later, Dec 25, still asking for patience...
now asking to wait until Jan 2022 because of health issues.

Later on Dec 25 he made his first substantial post in this thread, taking dead aim at anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers.
Then the same day he came back and did a quick take on Lady Di.

Then he came back and DIDN'T REALIZE he has TWO live threads now.
He thought his first thread (mentioned above) was renamed to this second thread he started!!!

And finally he came back Dec 26 and started talking about Bioweapons and AIDS.

So Tyy, he has been given plenty of leeway and opportunity to speak his mind already.

This provides some context, thanks.

From my perspective it looked like someone being victimized in some way. I read some of Barry's other recent thread and as you say his posts were succinct and on point.

What better way to shut down a dialogue than bring controversy into the mix? My point is that he could very well be - like many of us here - targetted. Our minds are like playgrounds for manipulation. How many will discount his prior thread?

[Agape]

You kids can’t be any sort of serious 😁

Please allow everyone roll on to new year happily, what else are you doing there. As my inner guru told me recently “and what else do you want to give up on ? Yourself ? Your friends ? Really ? This humanity then which part of ?”
It’s also known as cancel culture of today, I fear.

After long 6 years I’m laughing here if some people couldn’t wait 3 days, 6 days ..oh 9 days is too much .

So do not close on yourself or anyone please, everybody have unique perspective, this is international forum not a G3.

Freedom and love to 1/01 2022


🌿🌿🌿

Peace

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Seems one has to drag themselves from their deathbed in order to not keep anyone waiting, God forbid anyone having to use patience. Besides am firmly told by mr/mrs knowitallalready that my data is old hat out of date and not of any interest. But please bear in mind the data available today is precisely what us ufo veterans gave you all those years ago, maybe scorned and disbelieved then but now its simply taken as gospel. We gave it to you first. Yes I'm having a go at armchair researchers and those whom think that by being on forums, reading a few books, perhaps seen a few documentaries, one or two conferences, makes them experts. News for you, when YOU have had 55 years of HANDS ON practical in the field experience FIRST HAND, then and only then can you dare have a go at me and my peers.

After 55 years I have earned the right to speak with some expertise on these subjects. Enough. I am not going to bother on anything further in this thread its simply wasting my time. I shall revert to my original thread within Disclosure. This thread thankyou has become a bloody joke (recall, I DO NOT DO PC)

I will restate to Bill and Admin..................KINDLY CLOSE THIS THREAD

[Mashika]

Seems one has to drag themselves from their deathbed in order to not keep anyone waiting, God forbid anyone having to use patience. Besides am firmly told by mr/mrs knowitallalready that my data is old hat out of date and not of any interest. But please bear in mind the data available today is precisely what us ufo veterans gave you all those years ago, maybe scorned and disbelieved then but now its simply taken as gospel. We gave it to you first. Yes I'm having a go at armchair researchers and those whom think that by being on forums, reading a few books, perhaps seen a few documentaries, one or two conferences, makes them experts. News for you, when YOU have had 55 years of HANDS ON practical in the field experience FIRST HAND, then and only then can you dare have a go at me and my peers.

After 55 years I have earned the right to speak with some expertise on these subjects. Enough. I am not going to bother on anything further in this thread its simply wasting my time. I shall revert to my original thread within Disclosure. This thread thankyou has become a bloody joke (recall, I DO NOT DO PC)

I will restate to Bill and Admin..................KINDLY CLOSE THIS THREAD

Well now you are 'acting up'. I thought you were against being a snowflake and needing 'safe spaces' and you thought that a sign of being strong and a grown up, experienced adult was exactly to do the opposite of this tantrum. Wasn't it supposed to be that you were in agreement that everyone can say whatever they want and people should not complain about it, even if it doesn't align with their own views?

So now that some people came and said things that do not align with your own views, you throw a tantrum about it and demand the thread be closed because you don't want to hear anything about it?



News for you, when YOU have had 55 years of HANDS ON practical in the field experience FIRST HAND, then and only then can you dare have a go at me and my peers.

Here's some NEWS to you.

I take your 55 years of HANDS ON practical experiences in whatever that field is, and exchange it for 1.5 years in a war zone in Donbas where i got my entire body and life destroyed by bullets and beatings and other things, and i still survive the consequences of war. Unfortunately 1.5 years of HANDS ON and FIRST HAND experiences in that kind of place, take your entire life away so that at 25 i have a life expectancy of no more than 35 years and possibly 40 if i'm lucky

I could not care less about someone that thinks their own life experience is the top most above everyone, because of their age.

There.Is.Always.A.Bigger.Fish

So now you made me angry with you "i'm old and i'm entitled to always be right because i'm older than you". That's just dumb to think

What a Temper Tantrum lol, worst than any i have thrown here or in the past in other places

Also you are using a forum to critisize people using forums to do exactly the same thing you are doing right now lol. Talk about faulty logic there

If you have something important to say it, say it at once, or wait until you can say it. Don't lead people by their noses to follow you until you finally feel in a good mood to throw them a bone. That's just not right

Why didn't you wait until you felt better to post the thread and all you had to say? Why not write it offline on a pad or somewhere else, then finally once you could, post it online here? Why lead people with "misterious words coming soon" and then get angry? That's childish. And i know how to be way worse than that? Even more than what has been displayed here

Last year i almost died falling over some stairs when my heart kind of gave up on me and i completely went into a blackout, i fell down the stairs for like 5 meters, hit the ground hard and broke my arm and a rib, and got a lot of bruises and spent almost 3 weeks at the hospital in care. I don't give an F about it, i was 24 and i could have died there, and the first moment i could standup and walk i just went out and started my planned trip to the country side. I am not going to sit expecting anyone to give me any kind of entitlements because i'm ill and i may die any day at any moment. F that, i'm not expecting any special treatment at all, why should i? My illness is mine and no one should have to do or pay anything to me because of it, in any form or kind!

ETA:

This could have been a great thread, without the drama and the 'coming soon' and 'follow me, i'll teach you things because I HAVE HANDS ON EXPERIENCE LITTLE FOOLS" attitude.

Enough of this childish nonsense already

[Mashika]

I have known people in their 99 years, who when someone tried to help them walk, because they noticed the person had trouble walking straight because of age. The elder would in a very kind way move away the hand out of the person helping and say "no please, i can walk on my own, i'm strong enough" and with a smile on their faces.

There was never an expectation of having any kind of entitlement because of age or illness

So all this tantrum about "you little fools" and your age constantly being mentioned just tells me you are not as grown up as you think you are. Yes you may be older, but old in age and acting like a grown up are not related at all. In my "experienced in the field"

So there you go, i don't have a filter, i say what i think and post it, figure it out.

I expect that since you are older than me you will know how to be rational about this and understand and don't jump into some kind of angry rant about anything at all

IF you do answer i expect something smart and well thought about what i said. Also, if you are going to complain about my 'attitude', then you should at yours first for a long time, so you understand how similar mine is to yours. And i won't complain about your reply even if it doesn't align with mine. I don't need a crying room or a safe space.

This was about controversy, right? Let's create some controversy, i'm good at controversy! Throw it all at me at once with all you have, i triple dare you.

I have been hit with way worse than what any person can say by now

Want a taste of how to deal with a violent, emotionally damaged, disturbed by death and destruction, child soldier is like? Let's talk! I have 'controversial' things to say about it. Just let me know. Stop thinking your opinion, just because you thought about it, as exceptional in some way. I have seen and know people who have gone through worse than me and anyone else. And they don't expect anything at all from it. They don't talk about it at all, ever.

You are triggered by masks-less people on the street. I'm not even phased if i would see a person sitting in their living room without their 'head on', not even mention a mask lmao! Have you gone into a house and seen a person sitting on their couch, without their head attached? Did you go looking for the missing head, with your finger firmly ready to shoot your ak-74 in case whoever may be around in the other room?

But "masks"....

Stop being a grown up child

[mozo33]

OK guys, you pushed me to it, wracked in pain but going to make a start here in order to quell the masses. Of very many topics I am going to cover here I will begin with one that was NOT due yet but as its topical here we go............................COVID, CORONAVIRUS,OMNICRON...........................the damn Pandemic. I'm in the vulnerable list, as is my wife and daughter, we all 3 had, after an NHS delay, our second vaccine in August, .............

got this far and stopped reading for reasons obvious to most here ....

[Bubu]

I have known people in their 99 years, who when someone tried to help them walk, because they noticed the person had trouble walking straight because of age. The elder would in a very kind way move away the hand out of the person helping and say "no please, i can walk on my own, i'm strong enough" and with a smile on their faces.

There was never an expectation of having any kind of entitlement because of age or illness

So all this tantrum about "you little fools" and your age constantly being mentioned just tells me you are not as grown up as you think you are. Yes you may be older, but old in age and acting like a grown up are not related at all. In my "experienced in the field"

So there you go, i don't have a filter, i say what i think and post it, figure it out.

I expect that since you are older than me you will know how to be rational about this and understand and don't jump into some kind of angry rant about anything at all

IF you do answer i expect something smart and well thought about what i said. Also, if you are going to complain about my 'attitude', then you should at yours first for a long time, so you understand how similar mine is to yours. And i won't complain about your reply even if it doesn't align with mine. I don't need a crying room or a safe space.

This was about controversy, right? Let's create some controversy, i'm good at controversy! Throw it all at me at once with all you have, i triple dare you.

I have been hit with way worse than what any person can say by now

Want a taste of how to deal with a violent, emotionally damaged, disturbed by death and destruction, child soldier is like? Let's talk! I have 'controversial' things to say about it. Just let me know. Stop thinking your opinion, just because you thought about it, as exceptional in some way. I have seen and know people who have gone through worse than me and anyone else. And they don't expect anything at all from it. They don't talk about it at all, ever.

You are triggered by masks-less people on the street. I'm not even phased if i would see a person sitting in their living room without their 'head on', not even mention a mask lmao! Have you gone into a house and seen a person sitting on their couch, without their head attached? Did you go looking for the missing head, with your finger firmly ready to shoot your ak-74 in case whoever may be around in the other room?

But "masks"....

Stop being a grown up child

If Fauci, Bill G and company go into trial I'd like to see you on the judge seat. ccc

[Bill Ryan]

I will restate to Bill and Admin..................KINDLY CLOSE THIS THREADWell, the thread is closed. (Rather reluctantly!) But Barry, please kindly do note: We can reopen it again easily and instantly. At any time.

Many would love to have read what you have to share. One way to do this might be for you simply to list a bunch of bulletpoint topics you'd like to say something about from your very extensive personal experience. That way, readers would have a kind of menu (and a preview!), and would know a little more precisely what they could look forward to.

The enthusiasm and reflected energy at the start of the thread was palpable, and that might tell us all something about how the community was eagerly anticipating hearing more. If there is more, then one way forward, besides the bulletpoint menu idea above, might be to write out what you'd like to share in your own time, on a notepad document — and THEN post it when you have it all organized in the way you'd like.

Everyone in the Avalon community wishes you well. :heart: You can tell that from the initial response. You have no enemies here. If you want to re-open the thread, now or at any time in the future, just let us know by PM.

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