The star-ship of Bethlehem

[7he5ource]

THE STAR-SHIP OF BETHLEHEM

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of king Herod, behold there came wise-men from the east to Jerusalem, saying where is he that is born king of the Jews for we have seen his STAR.
In the east and come here to worship him (Mat. 2:1-2). Then Herod privately called the wise men, inquiring diligently at exactly what time the STAR appeared (Mat. 2:7).
When they had heard the king they departed and lo, the STAR which they saw in the east went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was (Mat. 2:9). When they saw the STAR they rejoiced with exceedingly great joy (Mat. 2:10). And when they were come into the house they saw the young child with Mary his mother and fell down to worship him, and presented treasure of gold and exotic herbs (mat. 2:10). And there were near Bethlehem, shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo, the ANGEL OF THE LORD came upon them, and the glory of the lord shone brightly all around them, and they were sore afraid. And the ANGEL said “Fear not for behold I bring you tidings of great joy which shall be to all people. For unto this day is born a savior, which is Christ the lord”? Then suddenly there was with the ANGEL a multitude of heavenly host praising god and saying glory to god in the highest, and on earth peace, goodwill toward men. And it came to pass that when the ANGELS were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, let us go now to Bethlehem and see that which the lord has made known to us (Luke 2:8-15).
“For there were in that area (Bethlehem) shepherds abiding in the field, watching their flocks by night” (Luke 2:8).


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some say the star was a conjunction [let them read 1054[
but it moved and stopped over a geographical location on earth
some of earth's richest men left money/gold and pharonic embalming herbs

this is not a conjunction

[East Sun]

It would make sense that the "star" was a space craft from another place
and the child Jesus was brought down to Mary and Joseph.
That might explain the virgin birth.

He always had extra mysterious abilities like walking on water etc. so he may
not really have suffered all the things it seemed he did.

Now would be a good time for him to return and now maybe enough
people would be capable of receiving more advanced knowledge.

Maybe he will put an end to the globalist agenda and we will be free
at last, free at last, thank God, free at last.

[ian33]

when a star passes over the equator in its 26,000 year cycle it rises exactly in the east daily during that era
..the first magnitude blue/white alpha star of VIRGO THE VIRGIN, SPICA, was exact above the equator 29 B.C. so was the exact east rising star in that era(worldwide)
..it would have been visible rising in the east around midnight winter solstice, at bethlehem location

[betoobig]

It would make sense that the "star" was a space craft from another place
and the child Jesus was brought down to Mary and Joseph.
That might explain the virgin birth.

He always had extra mysterious abilities like walking on water etc. so he may
not really have suffered all the things it seemed he did.

Now would be a good time for him to return and now maybe enough
people would be capable of receiving more advanced knowledge.

Maybe he will put an end to the globalist agenda and we will be free
at last, free at last, thank God, free at last.

is the Crhist consciousness what´s coming back. We all come here through a vagina and so did Jesus undependently from where he came initialy and the abilities he showed us are abilities we all can achive, or better said, we can all remember. And yes now is the perfect time for us to tune into Christ cosnciousness and out an end to the globalist agenda. We create our reality individualy and collectively..... strength are in numbers and in high vibration/frequency. The more of us tuning into Christ consciousness the faster will all bring forth heaven on earth. Jesus come back is through us. SO much love dear East Sun. hugs

[Mari]

Maybe he will put an end to the globalist agenda and we will be free
at last, free at last, thank God, free at last.


With respect, 'He' will not be coming to 'free' us - that job is solely down to Humanity itself. No one's going to 'save' us...we have to do the job ourselves.

[East Sun]

betoobig

Thanks for your reply.
Now at this time, almost all the people I hear about have their own idea of what
happened way back then, including myself.

You read what I said above and I think it has credibility. It's not because there is
so much talk about ET's that I believe that Jesus was from another planet or
dimension. He said, "I am not of this world" etc. I do not talk religion usually
even though I did study on my own not wanting anyone telling me their
version of what is meant in the Bible.

A lot has been written outside of what was originally taught so it gets
complicated.

[7he5ource]

That might explain the virgin birth.
.
virgin births [test tube babies] have been in hundreds of thousands since 1970s
eugenic technology and assisted fertility techniques are moving faster than ppl can keep up its like AI


ITS EVIDENT THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE [caps] and texts worldwide that spaceships ''craft'' have been around since before history as
this is where history/herstory/mystory/mystery begins

[7he5ource]

when a star passes over the equator in its 26,000 year cycle it rises exactly in the east daily during that era
..the first magnitude blue/white alpha star of VIRGO THE VIRGIN, SPICA, was exact above the equator 29 B.C. so was the exact east rising star in that era(worldwide)
..it would have been visible rising in the east around midnight winter solstice, at Bethlehem location

i dispute this astronomical data,
the precession doesn't cause stars to go exactly above the equator, look at Polaris,
and a key point is the star stopped after rich men followed it, and stopped over a particular location standing still
... i testify that such a craft can stop on a dime while moving at the speeds of between 670,000,000 mph and a comparatively gentle 270,000 mph

the star Virgo didst stop over and location in astronomical recorded history, with exception of a possible theory by Velikovsky involving Venus nor Sirius

[7he5ource]

[QUOTE=East Sun;1471624]We all come here through a vagina
untrue
the 6reeks among others tell of womanless birth
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Gospel of Thomas Saying 15 -
Jesus says: "When you see Him who has not been born of woman, bow down face to the earth and adore Him: He is your father!" .

[7he5ource]

Maybe he will put an end to the globalist agenda and we will be free
at last, free at last, thank God, free at last.


With respect, 'He' will not be coming to 'free' us - that job is solely down to Humanity itself. No one's going to 'save' us...we have to do the job ourselves.

isn't there a thing call ''final judgement'' ?
666lobalist agenda ? in interstellar/intergalactic trade wouldn't earth need a C.E.O. ?
A global village idiot to administrate earth like the binary bipolar Enki/Enlil destroy buy save man
the bipolar yaweh [gen 6:6] who claimed perfection yet the creation [man] was poor engineering

globalism under rightful administration could be utopia
most agree on ethical standards, but they live on earth !

[ian33]

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when a star passes over the equator in its 26,000 year cycle it rises exactly in the east daily during that era
..the first magnitude blue/white alpha star of VIRGO THE VIRGIN, SPICA, was exact above the equator 29 B.C. so was the exact east rising star in that era(worldwide)
..it would have been visible rising in the east around midnight winter solstice, at Bethlehem location

i dispute this astronomical data,
the precession doesn't cause stars to go exactly above the equator, look at Polaris,
and a key point is the star stopped after rich men followed it, and stopped over a particular location standing still
... i testify that such a craft can stop on a dime while moving at the speeds of between 670,000,000 mph and a comparatively gentle 270,000 mph

the star Virgo didst stop over and location in astronomical recorded history, with exception of a possible theory by Velikovsky involving Venus nor Sirius
....i am not talking about precession of the equinoxes..NOT AT ALL....that is a different phenomena coinciding in the same cycle
..most people dont realise that stars change there declination in the wobble cycle...not all will pass over 0 degree declination...polaris for instance reached 40N29(above bordeaux latitude) before stopping there to turn back north(apparent position from earth)in its last cycle... it varies from cycle to cycle..you would need to download stellarium to see for yourself the declination cycles of the stars...currently the alpha aquarius star SADELMELIK is the east rising star, also orions belt star MINTAKA is also close to 0 degree declination..dispute away it does not change the facts..
..i have no wish to get into argument, so will avoid your posts in future out of respect

i wish you well in your research..clearly you are not so interested in mine, no problem there, most dont understand it, i have accepted that

[iota]

Maybe he will put an end to the globalist agenda and we will be free
at last, free at last, thank God, free at last.


With respect, 'He' will not be coming to 'free' us - that job is solely down to Humanity itself. No one's going to 'save' us...we have to do the job ourselves.

completely respect that statement!

our Life and its experiences are not a movie for us to WATCH

nor are we intended to be an AUDIENCE

this is PARTICIPATORY

not OBSERVANCE

i've come to the understanding THAT?

would be a disservice to any to be robbed of the opportunity to connect with the inherent power

WITHIN

and terminate our lives thinking we were IN NEED of being saved ...

when that was NEVER true

:flower:


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[East Sun]

7heSource,

You misquote me. I did not say that.
Check it out!

[RAEFOS]

I could definitely see it being a space ship. But I have also read that jesus was actually one of these light beings in human form. The reason he was able to walk on water is because he was made of light, which a photon is lighter than a hydrogen atom... So this would possibly explain how he was able to walk on water. This is something that perhaps is out of our understanding. How was he able to both be a physical object that was able to be touched and manipulated like a physical object, yet at the same time be made of a material lighter than water, but solid? This is physics breaking of course, just as UAP's seem to be. Maybe our understanding of physics just isn't as advanced as we would like to believe it to be?

Just some thoughts.

[East Sun]

Because of some aliens being far more advanced than we are
it would make sense that they could change in many ways that
we could not understand.

If he did return, looking different to what we imagine him to be, different name maybe,
and coming in the clouds as he said he would, (whatever that might mean) he
might not be recognized by many. Maybe only some true believers.

In any case we do need him now.

[Pam]

I could definitely see it being a space ship. But I have also read that jesus was actually one of these light beings in human form. The reason he was able to walk on water is because he was made of light, which a photon is lighter than a hydrogen atom... So this would possibly explain how he was able to walk on water. This is something that perhaps is out of our understanding. How was he able to both be a physical object that was able to be touched and manipulated like a physical object, yet at the same time be made of a material lighter than water, but solid? This is physics breaking of course, just as UAP's seem to be. Maybe our understanding of physics just isn't as advanced as we would like to believe it to be?

Just some thoughts.

Welcome to the forum, RAEFOS!!! Very happy to have you here.

What you are saying definitely makes sense. Had not considered that possibility.

[iota]

I could definitely see it being a space ship. But I have also read that jesus was actually one of these light beings in human form. The reason he was able to walk on water is because he was made of light, which a photon is lighter than a hydrogen atom... So this would possibly explain how he was able to walk on water. This is something that perhaps is out of our understanding. How was he able to both be a physical object that was able to be touched and manipulated like a physical object, yet at the same time be made of a material lighter than water, but solid? This is physics breaking of course, just as UAP's seem to be. Maybe our understanding of physics just isn't as advanced as we would like to believe it to be?

Just some thoughts.

Welcome to the forum, RAEFOS!!! Very happy to have you here.

What you are saying definitely makes sense. Had not considered that possibility.

i second Pam's welcome!!

and wish you a Happy New Year!

<3

[Bubu]

I could definitely see it being a space ship. But I have also read that jesus was actually one of these light beings in human form. The reason he was able to walk on water is because he was made of light, which a photon is lighter than a hydrogen atom... So this would possibly explain how he was able to walk on water. This is something that perhaps is out of our understanding. How was he able to both be a physical object that was able to be touched and manipulated like a physical object, yet at the same time be made of a material lighter than water, but solid? This is physics breaking of course, just as UAP's seem to be. Maybe our understanding of physics just isn't as advanced as we would like to believe it to be?

Just some thoughts.

Welcome to the forum.
But how can we verify that jesus actually walks on water, or that there was 3 wise men or a bright star, when we can not even verify the true origin of the bible and who made it. I think it is logical to first verify the bible authenticity before we even bother interpreting/ talking about its content. Shall we rely on faith? is not that ignorance or foolishness?

[Ernie Nemeth]

To contest the bible on the grounds of veracity is insulting to many. For the Muslim community just drawing a picture of Mohamed, not of god mind you just a prophet, will get you killed. Not fair to attack the premise of the Christian faith.

When over 600 Christian churches in the last year have been burned down or vandalized around the world, I believe the Christians deserve a great big break.

Don't forget, of the three major religions, only Christianity is not protected against 'hate speech'. Islam is, Judaism is.

[Bubu]

To contest the bible on the grounds of veracity is insulting to many. For the Muslim community just drawing a picture of Mohamed, not of god mind you just a prophet, will get you killed. Not fair to attack the premise of the Christian faith.

When over 600 Christian churches in the last year have been burned down or vandalized around the world, I believe the Christians deserve a great big break.

Don't forget, of the three major religions, only Christianity is not protected against 'hate speech'. Islam is, Judaism is.

That is normal and also very wrong. It's the equivalent of getting insulted by differing ideas. Inability to entertain opposing thoughts and remain neutral emotionally is immaturity IMO. Fear of expressing what you believe is truth is cowardice. To me at least. Sorry Ernie. I will always stand in what I believe even in. Even in the face of getting killed. I'm not attacking anyone just expressing my truth. But then again its normal. Most people when meet with opposing ideas consider it as "attack". Its also part of the grand deception, me thinks. Just because someone is insulted by my ideas does not mean he is correct.

[Michel Leclerc]

When we delve deep into religions, we will discover that their – hidden, but hinted-at – meaning is the same. If we do not do that, we will remain at the surface of any religion considered.

When we delve deep into “our" religion, while neglecting that depth in other religions or even denying them such depth, we will not have reached the depth of our own religion.

Surface belief in a religion is not religion. It only exists truly when at its deepest.

All seekers at this depth fathom this. They meet at the core and hug.

[Bubu]

When we delve deep into religions, we will discover that their – hidden, but hinted-at – meaning is the same. If we do not do that, we will remain at the surface of any religion considered.

When we delve deep into “our" religion, while neglecting that depth in other religions or even denying them such depth, we will not have reached the depth of our own religion.

Surface belief in a religion is not religion. It only exists truly when at its deepest.

All seekers at this depth fathom this. They meet at the core and hug.

yes there is a common meaning in religions, which is love, but that is superficial or at least half deep. when you look deeper there is another common and that is we are separate from god and god is not love. Consider for example the "god is love" of Christians who will throw his beloved children in hell to burn forever and ever, for disobeying.

I once organize a peasant group of farmers and fishermen to see how we can uplift their condition. I talked to one elder of the village, after which he gathered the wise elders of the village, seven, and we had our first session. This group fixes conflicts of people within the village. After I presented my plan and the official discussion of the matter, we had some coconut wine. It turned out that there are at least four religious sect within the group of seven . all Christians. The discussion on interpretation of the bible verses became chaotic. I listen quietly to voice tones and just when the discussion is about to escalate to more chaotic I told the group to have a moment of silence. And then ask one member to tell us his belief asking also other members to keep quite and listen. One by one all representative of each sect had his exclusive time. After which I told the group to respect each ones belief and move on to a more pleasant subject. One member however speak up and told me that they also want to hear my belief and everyone nod in agreement so I ask the group the same question " Can anyone please tell me where did the bible came from and who made it" At that everyone fell silent for a moment and a member said. " that is the heaviest most difficult question to answer". In that moment I realize that most people in the group had their moment of truth or the start of it. that was like 19 years ago. I have asked the same question over and over again and I am pretty sure many people have their moment of truth with this question. At least those who are open minded enough to entertain differing thoughts. And for that I will keep asking the same question.

Have a happy, nice, fun new year everyone. Going back to my homestead now. See you around whenever I can.

[7he5ource]

With respect, 'He' will not be coming to 'free' us - that job is solely down to Humanity itself. No one's going to 'save' us...we have to do the job ourselves.

biblicaly the next coming of that being is final judgement, the second death ... the 1000 years of christian rule being completed and end of the church age.
the idea that a being [other-worldly] will save humanity isn't even biblical, nor likely that the 3 billion who profess the bible as true will fit anywhere
as the sardine can called earth wont hold them

i read the bible and was unimpressed here is an example of why

the 1st book Mathew records the genealogy of jesus to king david and adam through a surrogate adopted father joseph
this is one of 80 serious internal contradictions ... some even spoken by jesus himself
these only lead to arguments so im not posting the list and have heard all the tripe of attempting to explain away the unexplainable
im a believer, but the bible is not SOURCE for me, its a document from rome a church known as saturnalia the church of satan.
the church must be in direct communication with SOURCE no book can act as intermediary

that said the book has truths
i posted one i believe in, by experience long before reading it.


i detest arguing over religion as much as i hate typing on a keyboard

[7he5ource]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119325-Beam-Ship-Technology-Semjase-message-to-Billy-Meier&p=1513861#post1513861

some more about g-d and other worldly technology
Semjase's message of peace on earth and goodwill towards men