Turmoil in Kazakhstan

[Bill Ryan]

All hell is breaking loose in Kazakhstan. This article was published on Zero Hedge on 4 January:

https://zerohedge.com/energy/kazakhstan-rocked-days-fierce-protests-after-sharp-fuel-price-hike

State Of Emergency Declared In Kazakhstan's Largest City After Fuel Price Riots, Internet Cut

Large-scale protests in Kazakhstan are growing more fierce by the day, with video emerging from major cities showing police vehicles being attacked and set on fire, as authorities try to clamp down on a third consecutive day of rage against a sudden rise in fuel prices after authorities lifted price caps on liquefied petroleum gas (LPG).

In what marks a very rare example of mass public dissent in the former Soviet republic which has one-party rule, protests which erupted last weekend centered in the oil-rich western Mangystau region have now spread across multiple towns and cities including several oil-producing hubs.

https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/almaty.jpg?itok=4vC2wnhl
Protests in Almaty, 4 January

Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev is warning citizens against violating a blanket protest ban order, while also urging dialogue.

Even before the energy crisis this week, large political assemblies were only permitted by filing a legal request from authorities, underscoring the unprecedented nature of people taking to the streets en mass. Overnight, authorities have declared a "state of emergency" for the city of Almaty.

Rapidly spinning out of control...

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/14784694668917309551478469466891730955https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1478470949196517383
1478470949196517383 Local reports say a strict curfew of 11pm-7am has been imposed in Almaty. "Movements of private vehicles restricted. Entrance and exit from Almaty restricted," sources say.
Over the past days video footage has captured larger and larger crowds, in some cases appearing in the tens of thousands, taking over city streets.

https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1478421890721095689
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https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1478438509006438402
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"Calls to attack government and military offices are absolutely illegal," Tokayev warned the country in a Tuesday video address. "The government will not fall but we want mutual trust and dialogue rather than conflict."

Yet judging by the on the ground footage continuing to spread on social media, and as protests reach the country's largest metropolis of Almaty - despite what now appears a significant disruption in national internet services - President Tokayev's appeal for calm is being met with rioting against security forces.

https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/1478440525443260419
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https://twitter.com/jardemalie/status/1478314469734428676
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US regional sources have documented that (https://www.rferl.org/a/kazakhstan-enrgy-price-protests-zhanaozen/31637647.html) "The price per liter of LNG jumped to 120 tenge (28 U.S. cents) at gas stations in Mangystau at the start of this year, compared with a price of 50-60 tenge (12-14 cents) in 2021." Thus overnight the price of taxi fares at least tripled in many places.

This in a country where the average household might make the equivalent of $250 a month, and where minimum wage equals just over $65 per month. There are now fears the crisis could get worse if protests grip oil-producing hubs to the point of affecting domestic output.

https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/1478454629864202263
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https://twitter.com/lazer314/status/1478440389128429580
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Generally protesters have been demanding that the price of gas be brought back down to the 60 tenge range.

Meanwhile, mass arrests are being reported are expected to grow as the government struggles to stamp out the protests...

Last week, analysis in The New York Times linked the potential for coming unrest in Central Asian societies to Europe's own energy price crisis (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/22/business/europe-natural-gas-prices.html): "Attracted by high prices, energy companies are instructing ships carrying liquefied natural gas to change their destinations from Asia to Europe, but even that switching may not be enough to replace Russian gas or significantly ease the crunch."

For now it appears the authorities are preparing for a major crackdown...

https://twitter.com/Ozkok_A/status/1478480410082435080
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[Spiral]

Troops from the Moscow-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) have been deployed to Kazakhstan after unrest across the Central Asian nation, sparked in part by a spike in fuel prices, turned deadly.

According to officials on January 6, police killed "dozens" of protesters and detained around 2,000 people over the past day in violent clashes that prompted President Qasym-Zhomart Toqaev to ask the CSTO, a military alliance comprised of several former Soviet republics in the region along with Russia, to enter the country to help "stabilize" the situation.

https://www.kazakhstannews.net/news/272115148/russian-troops-in-kazakhstan-after-uprising-turns-deadly

Armenian Troops, not Russian supposedly.

Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO)

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/int/csto.htm

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/int/images/csto-2008.gif

Bigger reasons than domestic fuel prices....

Kazakhstan is the top global producer of uranium

It is also the world's second largest miner of bitcoin
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/from-stability-to-turmoil-whats-going-on-in-kazakhstan/ar-AASvl9g

[Mashika]

It does look like the forces sent are only there to protect government buildings and other strategic locations like fuel or gas facilities

On Telegram and other places, messages like this one are being shared by the government:

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation recommends Russians in Kazakhstan to observe increased personal security measures, avoid places of demonstrations, riots and if possible, take shelter in hotels or houses. Stock up on essential food and supplies

Russian Foreign Ministry has opened a "hotline":
e-mail for communication — dskc@mid.ru.
Call Center phone - +7(495) 695 45 45


МИД РФ напоминает о рекомендации россиянам в Казахстане соблюдать повышенные меры личной безопасности, избегать мест демонстраций, беспорядков, по возможности укрыться в гостиницах, домах, запастись продуктами первой необходимости

В МИД России открыта «горячая линия»:
электронная почта для связи — dskc@mid.ru.
телефон Call-центра - +7(495) 695 45 45


No one is there to save anyone, apparently. There was news that an army Company was sent from Belorussia, that's just around 100/200 soldiers so they are not going to fight anyone back for sure, or take control of the country to enforce a stop to the protests. Other countries will probably send as many soldiers as Belorussia did, so is not really a big force than can be used for anything but to protect some strategic buildings, never enough to take control of the country and stop all protesters, specially since it looks like a lot of them are trained and using rifles to attack the army with good results

[Bill Ryan]

More, published today:


https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dozens-killed-kazakh-police-battle-control-streets-war-zone-banks-being-looted

Dozens Killed As Kazakh Police Battle For Control Of Streets In 'War Zone' - Banks Being Looted

https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/kazmap.png?itok=DQavKWAh

Security officials in Kazakhstan admitted they've killed dozens of anti-government rioters in the large main city of Almaty, after alleging the protesters attempted to storm and take control of several police stations. Authorities have labeled the massive fuel protests which have brought the country to the brink of collapse as fueled by "terrorists" and manipulated by "outside interference". Now with Russian support, it's looking like Kazakh authorities will intensify their crackdown.

WATCH: video montage showing various locations where running battles and large protests are continuing...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylfEp1dHyhw
Russian troops are en route to help restore order after an urgent decision (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-warns-against-any-foreign-interference-kazakhstan-unrest) by the Russian-led regional security bloc Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). "The CSTO confirmed Russian paratroopers were being dispatched as peacekeepers, with advance units already deployed," BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59880166) reports Thursday.

(The long article, with many tweeted videos, continues (https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dozens-killed-kazakh-police-battle-control-streets-war-zone-banks-being-looted))

[Mashika]

Very interesting, that this would happen was known since 16 December?

Previously, it was said that the protests were because after new year the prices of fuel and gas went up, but then how does that explain this knowledge of the future events? Also, this date (16 December) may be when this document was posted, but clearly they must have known from before, since they require time to elaborate a report of these future events


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIXGhxBXEBAqlcE?format=jpg&name=small
https://twitter.com/Malinka1102/status/1478806349547028490?s=20

[Mashika]

This group promoting the protests in Kazakhstan, NetBlocks, is not a neutral "internet freedom" group; it's a US government-backed operation funded by the US govt's Open Technology Fund, a project of CIA-created propaganda outlet Radio Free Asia

It's a regime-change organization


https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1478896896299225088?s=20

https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1478694849440358400?s=20

[Mashika]

The narrative already started, as usual

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLULPU4-dVT3S41ngkbKY-u8ODhETorOS2c4zDizSQMoTugxU6XtaPX6D5dZlmsv0EE07Bu75K20IuQHMebo7tWpcDC1_RGbXyH8lrpC1u1LXxfwRbj5umgBck 3RNq_X7-swhCIkHHZS2ObW3JmOxl4N=w396-h827-no?authuser=0


Looks like I am B may be very correct here
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-China-and-World-War-III&p=1473285&viewfull=1#post1473285
https://twitter.com/theragex/status/1478816694235803656?s=20

[Eric J (Viking)]

These are the battles being waged in Kazakhstan right now.
https://youtu.be/eDsbVhmXZ6k

What is going on in his central Asian country of 19 million people? The number one and two reasons the people revolted was high prices of fuel brought on by globalist reductions of "carbon based fuels". The other reason is they want the vaccines to STOP.

Russia has sent several thousand troops to back up the government and prevent the total overthrow of the government. This is part of their long standing 30 year agreement to back each other up in case of an uprising like this.
Another reason this is happening is because of US control of oil and gas resources in that country. There are numerous rumors that the US and wealthy elite groups orchestrated this revolution in secret the same way it was started in Ukraine. A play for power in this country of Kazakhstan is along the same lines of setting up puppet governments in Ukraine, Poland, Georgia, Ossetia, Moldova, the Balkan nations, and the the three Baltic nations in northern Europe. It is all part of the plan to surround Russia and threaten their defenses. The Russians see this clearly, but the main stream media won't say a word about it.

Viking

[Mashika]

And there it goes, it spreads like a virus... lol

Adulting, not an easy game! Specially for some people in particular. This is the kind of people that are so ignorant, you can't help wonder how they got into their political positions, or managed to grow up at all :facepalm:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWvdh8HuoOKCGa02lkBDCKiCO0q8hIjoUL5oFRt9GsBi8PYnQllBLA7ABbWLgRuVb0bPebDCCNY0GbatxYUxtJIzVUgHSoVe03 GG2d8iVtHoJ8i0sNX1nUyadZfN0CDpZ6IMbTdCEWfeoM86ZMUFnlz=w748-h372-no?authuser=0

[Mashika]

As far as the conspiracy that there are groups intervening from the outside, i want to find a video that shows what rifles are they using to attack the army and police

The official standard issue rifle for the Kazakhstan army is the AK-74. I read that the explanation as to how some people had rifles and ammo was that they managed to loot army bases and so on. Then, if that's true, they should have AK-74 rifles. It would be "problematic", to say the least, if the videos show people using AK-47, such as the ones used by middle eastern jihadists. Then we could start thinking about the conspiracy being true, that there are external forces fighting there.

I have not been able to find a video that shows clear enough what rifle they are using, both Ak-74 and AK-47 look very similar but there are details that allows you to see one from the other, but for that it needs to be displayed clearly at least for a couple seconds. And i have not been able to see that yet

If the citizens looted army arsenals there's no way they could have AK-47 rifles for all of them, even if there were some around, which there always are for training and so, but not enough to build a small army that fights against army and cops. That's just not right at all

If anyone has a video where normal citizens are shooting rifles please post it here, thanks

See this for example, this is a sniper rifle, a Dragunov, impossible for me to say how old is that one, but lots of countries use that rifle, even US forces sometimes are trained with it. It doesn't look like a modern version of it, looks more like the ones from the 70/80s, so it could have come from anywhere, it makes it hard to figure out if it came from the Kazakhstan army reserves stock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_sniper_rifle
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVF39LWu6CFR3-9uahny_i8CJSdSsWqtYqyC7-DizXPYtkZKQkKJGfXw3SGFFkJl7QYKO1uu9Pm4jfr0FUwFNhrtouBunEZZ6i7K1xRddjvYqXDvofaOZ9WtMaeqkYiYgzAaBdEE0j PTw8-_uqNN6XE=w516-h690-no?authuser=0

It makes me wonder, how do civilians would know how to use such a rifle? It's a Sniper rifle, you can't just shoot it around all over the place like you would an AK-47 for example. It's not a rudimentary rifle that you can just press the trigger and it goes off all over the place. People need training for months and months just to be able to hit something, and just shooting it around it's impossible, it's not a machine gun. For me it looks very suspicious they delivered that rifle to some random guy on the street

[I am B]

Thats a great amount of info! ^^

I'm spending some time in Russia, and it is a hot topic now. All I can add for now, from the close people I have around with whom I talked about, everyone mentions Maidan.

The question in my head right now is if its a foreign influence added to destabilise Russia, or a Russian affair to reunite valuable Kazakhstan, which could be very much true too.

Btw Mashika many of your post links are blocked. Don't know if its only for me.

We're celebrating christmas now, but If i manage to take a glimpse to Russian MSM narrative etc I may be able to help a bit more.

Update: We know more than most Kazakhs. They have internet a short amount of time a day and news are actually scarce. As mentiones they recieve info through government sms

[meat suit]

there are a bunch of posts making the rounds on telegram suggesting that the protests are really about covid restrictions and protests about fuel prices are just the cover..
apparently unvaxxed people have been prevented from withdrawing their money etc.
there are claims the government has been overthrown already and police and military are in chaos.

[Bill Ryan]

There are a bunch of posts making the rounds on telegram suggesting that the protests are really about covid restrictions and protests about fuel prices are just the cover..
apparently unvaxxed people have been prevented from withdrawing their money etc.
there are claims the government has been overthrown already and police and military are in chaos.Yes. Houman (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?322-Houman) posted this on his thread. Is this correct?



@alane69 claims Kazahkstan is experiencing a revolution after the "government" enforced denying the unvaccinated access to their money in the bank.https://odysee.com/@Plazma:9/KazakhstanSuccess:6

[I am B]

I have contact with a kazakh person in the country. I asked her about the protest reasons. She didn't notice what was going on beside the protests until her internet went out and suddenly all went crazy with the gov sms etc. She said she didn't get news at all and we probably knew more. She doesn't seem to have internet yet, since she hasn't answered.

Anyways, despite being so close to the border I unfortunately don't have any kazakh language speakers here, but if by any chance you do, you could try to translate the speaker on this video.

https://twitter.com/theragex/status/1479410638044770308?s=20

[Mashika]

Thats a great amount of info! ^^

I'm spending some time in Russia, and it is a hot topic now. All I can add for now, from the close people I have around with whom I talked about, everyone mentions Maidan.

The question in my head right now is if its a foreign influence added to destabilise Russia, or a Russian affair to reunite valuable Kazakhstan, which could be very much true too.

Btw Mashika many of your post links are blocked. Don't know if its only for me.

We're celebrating christmas now, but If i manage to take a glimpse to Russian MSM narrative etc I may be able to help a bit more.

Update: We know more than most Kazakhs. They have internet a short amount of time a day and news are actually scarce. As mentiones they recieve info through government sms

Fixed the links, thanks B

Happy Christmas :)

Russian MSM, check this guy, who as usual keeps pushing hard his nonesense narrative about an almost 100% confirmed invasion of Ukraine :rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/baunov/status/1478792756025778181

He is a 'journalist' working for Carnegie, supporters of the corrupt Memorial organization that got shutdown at the end of December

He also writes for the Moscow Times, who everyone knows is a fake "Russian" news site and is fully paid for by the US and other western countries :)
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/author/alexander-baunov

So there's not much to read or watch that is not in one way or another manipulated in Russian MSM. I think more actual valid info comes from telegram and even other sites like twitter

[Mashika]

More evidence of a planned coup, the "leader" of the opposition is working with the activists to take down the government and make the country unstable, so that he can come in and setup a provisional government, a west friendly one

https://akipress.com/news:666793:Mukhtar_Ablyazov_cast_himself_as_the_leader_of_the_opposition_protests_in_Kazakhstan/


AKIPRESS.COM - Mukhtar Ablyazov, a former banker wanted in Kazakhstan who is leader of an opposition movement called Democratic Choice of Kazakhstan, said the West needed to enter the fray.

"If not, then Kazakhstan will turn into Belarus and [Russian President Vladimir] Putin will methodically impose his programme - the recreation of a structure like the Soviet Union," Ablyazov told Reuters from Paris in Russian.

"Kazakhstan is now in geopolitical play," he said. "Russia has already entered, sent in troops. CSTO is Russia. This is an occupation by Russia."

Wanted at home for fraud and embezzlement, Ablyazov lives in France where he has been granted refugee status. He has dismissed all the charges against him in Russia and Kazakhstan as politically motivated.

Ablyazov cast himself as the leader of the opposition protests and said he was consulted every day on tactics on the ground in Almaty.

"I see myself as the leader of the opposition," he said. . "Every day the protesters call me and ask: 'What should we do? We are standing here: What should we do?'"


He said he was ready to fly into Kazakhstan to head a provisional government if the protests escalated and said his activists were awaiting him.

"The West should tear Kazakhstan away from Russia," he said. "The West must help so that Putin cannot occupy this country, the West must help civil society elect its leaders so that the country can choose its path, a democratic path like in the West."

[rgray222]

This appears to me to be an organic uprising. When the price of gas went up it was simply a tipping point unleashing frustration on a much broader scale. Of the five Central Asian republics that gained independence following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Kazakhstan is by far the largest and the wealthiest. It spans a territory the size of Western Europe and sits atop colossal reserves of oil, natural gas, uranium and precious metals. Yet the average monthly household income per capita sits at less than $600

Kazakhstan is now in geopolitical play and as is ever apparent Putin is an opportunist with a publicly stated desire to recreate the Soviet Union. Russia has already entered Kazakhstan by sending CSTO troops. There is not a person in Central Asia, the Balkans or Northern Europe that does not understand that CSTO is actually Russia.

To me what is happening in Kazakhstan is both a nightmare and an opportunity for Russia. Russia has a long and inextricable relationship with Kazakstan but the nightmare of Kazakstan may be a trailer for the movie that will at some point play out in Russia.

[Mashika]

This appears to me to be an organic uprising. When the price of gas went up it was simply a tipping point unleashing frustration on a much broader scale. Of the five Central Asian republics that gained independence following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Kazakhstan is by far the largest and the wealthiest. It spans a territory the size of Western Europe and sits atop colossal reserves of oil, natural gas, uranium and precious metals. Yet the average monthly household income per capita sits at less than $600

Kazakhstan is now in geopolitical play and as is ever apparent Putin is an opportunist with a publicly stated desire to recreate the Soviet Union. Russia has already entered Kazakhstan by sending CSTO troops. There is not a person in Central Asia, the Balkans or Northern Europe that does not understand that CSTO is actually Russia.

To me what is happening in Kazakhstan is both a nightmare and an opportunity for Russia. Russia has a long and inextricable relationship with Kazakstan but the nightmare of Kazakstan may be a trailer for the movie that will at some point play out in Russia.

It was known and planned since early December, there's nothing 'Organic' about it, see my post above about that

There is also evidence that the opposition had planned it and are following a plan, with an expected outcome

Since you said this is "organic", let me ask you the following

1. How many times have you seen regular citizens suddenly being able to handle rifles out of nowhere?
2. How many times have you seen someone pick a rifle and then immediately be able to shoot at cops and army and not run scared after a few shots, but instead keep the fight going on for hours?
3. Do regular citizens after protests, usually behead cops they managed to capture?

And finally, Why did the US knew in advance but said nothing, and then pretend that they did not know at all and it was 'a surprise and unexpected event'?

The evidence is mounting to the contrary of your assumption. Did you know that the opposition leader is hiding and that it was found that the group headquarters leading to this coup attempt is located in Kiev, Ukraine, and that they are illegals there? They don't have any kind of visa or permit to be on Kiev, or have offices there. And the Ukrainian gov paid a visit to them just a day or two ago...



There is not a person in Central Asia, the Balkans or Northern Europe that does not understand that CSTO is actually Russia.

Just like there is no person on this planet with good education that doesn't already know that NATO is the cannon fodder and puppet army of the US

Yet i have not seen any of your posts exposing the truth of that madness of invasions, destruction and death NATO leaves on its wake every year

The list only grows longer and longer by the year, almost closing in on 60 countries or so, yet you remain silent about it for some reason :)

At least the CSTO was officially invited to help, by the official government. Unlike NATO that invites itself to other countries and then stays there until there's nothing left, then leaves to find another 'host'

This is not about Russia, as much as you and your guys want to make it so to have another excuse to destroy more lives and another country, this is not "organic" it has been displayed in several ways, people trained to kill, opposition leader talking about a take over, evidence the US knew this in advance at least one month ago and knew exactly where and how things would develop.

Please be honest here, lives are and will continue to be lost. What is the most important thing to you, in the big scope of things?

[Mashika]

An update from earlier today

"
Riots in Kazakhstan. What is known by this hour:

— as reported by @sputnikKZ, the anti-terrorist operation in Alma-Ata continues. Gunfire is heard in the city center. Citizens help the police to identify suspicious groups of people. Criminals hide in small squares and parks;
- The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Kazakhstan informs about the detention of foreign citizens. In total, 4266 people were taken to the police;
— more than 100 people were detained in one of the villages of the Alma-Ata region. According to preliminary data, these are citizens of a neighboring state;
- a cache of weapons (several units of machine guns and pistols) was found in the settlement of Zhambyl region;
- the total amount of damage to business from the riots increased to $202 million;
- it is planned to resume air service in Aktau. Flights to Nur-Sultan, Shymkent, Istanbul and Moscow will be carried out today;
- Access to wired Internet has been resumed in the capital of Kazakhstan Nur-Sultan, TASS reports;
- in Kazakhstan, an investigation has been launched against 180 retail sellers of liquefied gas.
"


Беспорядки в Казахстане. Что известно к этому часу:
— как сообщает @sputnikKZ, антитеррористическая операция в Алма-Ате продолжается. В центре города слышна стрельба. Горожане помогают полиции выявлять подозрительные группы людей. Преступники прячутся в небольших скверах и парках;
— МВД Казахстана сообщает о задержании иностранных граждан. Всего же в органы полиции доставлены 4266 человек;
— в одном из сёл Алма-Атинской области задержаны более 100 человек. По предварительным данным, это граждане соседнего государства;
— в населённом пункте Жамбылской области обнаружен схрон оружия (несколько единиц автоматов и пистолетов);
— общая сумма ущерба бизнесу от беспорядков выросла до $202 млн;
— в Актау планируется возобновить авиасообщение. Уже сегодня будут выполнены рейсы в Нур-Султан, Чимкент, Стамбул и Москву;
— в столице Казахстана Нур-Султане вновь возобновлён доступ к проводному интернету, сообщает ТАСС;
— в Казахстане начали расследование в отношении 180 розничных реализаторов сжиженного газа.


We shall see in the following hours/days if any of this information is true. But by looking at the first videos before internet was shutdown, it does look like a lot of guns were being distributed to people out there on the street at what looked like "pick up points". And hearing about the gun fights, those people were not afraid of getting into a heavy gun fight, that just alone tells you those are not regular citizens

But we shall see

[I am B]

The friend just managed to answer:

Banks are not working
Cards are not working because of the internet
ATMs are moneyless.
Most of the protests are south, specially in Almati.
She lives in Nur-Sultan, so there are no protests in her city

With the hit "Glorious Bitcoin" Recieved, and the huge unavailability of money through cards etc, makes it so scary to go towards a Cashless society...

On the other hand, about what is being discussed:
I genuinely can't tell who did what or who is behind who, but while Russia may have no real right to get there boots on ground, it boils my blood to see some of the statements of US officials while talking about a country halfway around the world. And if i have to trust my impressions, they look WAY more interested into it than they should.

[Pam]

As far as the conspiracy that there are groups intervening from the outside, i want to find a video that shows what rifles are they using to attack the army and police

The official standard issue rifle for the Kazakhstan army is the AK-74. I read that the explanation as to how some people had rifles and ammo was that they managed to loot army bases and so on. Then, if that's true, they should have AK-74 rifles. It would be "problematic", to say the least, if the videos show people using AK-47, such as the ones used by middle eastern jihadists. Then we could start thinking about the conspiracy being true, that there are external forces fighting there.

I have not been able to find a video that shows clear enough what rifle they are using, both Ak-74 and AK-47 look very similar but there are details that allows you to see one from the other, but for that it needs to be displayed clearly at least for a couple seconds. And i have not been able to see that yet

If the citizens looted army arsenals there's no way they could have AK-47 rifles for all of them, even if there were some around, which there always are for training and so, but not enough to build a small army that fights against army and cops. That's just not right at all

If anyone has a video where normal citizens are shooting rifles please post it here, thanks

See this for example, this is a sniper rifle, a Dragunov, impossible for me to say how old is that one, but lots of countries use that rifle, even US forces sometimes are trained with it. It doesn't look like a modern version of it, looks more like the ones from the 70/80s, so it could have come from anywhere, it makes it hard to figure out if it came from the Kazakhstan army reserves stock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_sniper_rifle
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVF39LWu6CFR3-9uahny_i8CJSdSsWqtYqyC7-DizXPYtkZKQkKJGfXw3SGFFkJl7QYKO1uu9Pm4jfr0FUwFNhrtouBunEZZ6i7K1xRddjvYqXDvofaOZ9WtMaeqkYiYgzAaBdEE0j PTw8-_uqNN6XE=w516-h690-no?authuser=0

It makes me wonder, how do civilians would know how to use such a rifle? It's a Sniper rifle, you can't just shoot it around all over the place like you would an AK-47 for example. It's not a rudimentary rifle that you can just press the trigger and it goes off all over the place. People need training for months and months just to be able to hit something, and just shooting it around it's impossible, it's not a machine gun. For me it looks very suspicious they delivered that rifle to some random guy on the street

Malisa, I am really appreciating your commentary. As a novice to understanding these uprisings or regime changes or whatever they turn out to be you are bring up very important things to consider. My son has lots of guns, I would never be able to pick up a AK47 and start using it. Doubt I wouldn't know how to load it or even carry it around safely

[BMJ]

The deeper implications of this civil unrest.

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Now that Russia invade Kazakhstan.

We know that Putin has been actively working against the illuminati by kicking out the private central bank, promoting the russian orthodox church and strengthening Russia by other means.

So has this civil unrest in Kazakhstan provided President Putin an opportunity to clean out the illuminati and is this his intent?

Russian forces now effectively occupying Kazakhstan, opposition figure claims

Link: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/7/kazakh-protests-muted-president-issues-shoot-kill-/

[Mashika]

As far as the conspiracy that there are groups intervening from the outside, i want to find a video that shows what rifles are they using to attack the army and police

The official standard issue rifle for the Kazakhstan army is the AK-74. I read that the explanation as to how some people had rifles and ammo was that they managed to loot army bases and so on. Then, if that's true, they should have AK-74 rifles. It would be "problematic", to say the least, if the videos show people using AK-47, such as the ones used by middle eastern jihadists. Then we could start thinking about the conspiracy being true, that there are external forces fighting there.

I have not been able to find a video that shows clear enough what rifle they are using, both Ak-74 and AK-47 look very similar but there are details that allows you to see one from the other, but for that it needs to be displayed clearly at least for a couple seconds. And i have not been able to see that yet

If the citizens looted army arsenals there's no way they could have AK-47 rifles for all of them, even if there were some around, which there always are for training and so, but not enough to build a small army that fights against army and cops. That's just not right at all

If anyone has a video where normal citizens are shooting rifles please post it here, thanks

See this for example, this is a sniper rifle, a Dragunov, impossible for me to say how old is that one, but lots of countries use that rifle, even US forces sometimes are trained with it. It doesn't look like a modern version of it, looks more like the ones from the 70/80s, so it could have come from anywhere, it makes it hard to figure out if it came from the Kazakhstan army reserves stock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_sniper_rifle
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVF39LWu6CFR3-9uahny_i8CJSdSsWqtYqyC7-DizXPYtkZKQkKJGfXw3SGFFkJl7QYKO1uu9Pm4jfr0FUwFNhrtouBunEZZ6i7K1xRddjvYqXDvofaOZ9WtMaeqkYiYgzAaBdEE0j PTw8-_uqNN6XE=w516-h690-no?authuser=0

It makes me wonder, how do civilians would know how to use such a rifle? It's a Sniper rifle, you can't just shoot it around all over the place like you would an AK-47 for example. It's not a rudimentary rifle that you can just press the trigger and it goes off all over the place. People need training for months and months just to be able to hit something, and just shooting it around it's impossible, it's not a machine gun. For me it looks very suspicious they delivered that rifle to some random guy on the street

Malisa, I am really appreciating your commentary. As a novice to understanding these uprisings or regime changes or whatever they turn out to be you are bring up very important things to consider. My son has lots of guns, I would never be able to pick up a AK47 and start using it. Doubt I wouldn't know how to load it or even carry it around safely

Thanks :heart: :flower:

Another aspect of it is the one mentioned later on another post. It's one thing to know how to use a rifle on the shooting range, and a completely different thing to use it against soldiers or cops and receive fire back, and then move position and keep fighting against the other side. That's something no one without training can do, to keep your mind/heart cool and cold and aim to kill the "enemy". That's military training. So how could a regular citizen be given a rifle and endure the tremendous psychological and stressful situation for hours? Fighting back against trained soldiers? It doesn't make any sense to say those people are "protesters", but that's the narrative being pushed

So from all i can see right now, there are three groups of people on the streets:

1. Soldiers and cops attempting to regain control of the cities and situation
2. Regular citizens trying to run away from the danger and hiding from the bullets (Some of them were the initial protesters, that didn't burn things or caused any damage, these are the 'peaceful ones' that were used to later name everyone attacking the government as 'peaceful demonstrators')
3. People who have military training and are not afraid of an extended gun fight, and knows how to take over positions, advance and corner on urban fights, enclose and circle around/clamp maneuver etc. How do they know that is the question. These 'demonstrators' are trained in urban, close fighting, these are not amateurs, the move through parks and buildings and use them to protect themselves, they know what they are doing

News got posted that demonstrators burned TV/Radio media buildings. This is suspect. Why protesters would do that? On the premise that protesters want to let the world know what's happening and how the government is killing them, why would they shutdown the only way to talk to the outside world? One important aspect to watch for in a coup is, who is taking down communication channels? The coup organizers are the usual ones, since they want to refuse regular citizens a voice, otherwise they would be exposed to the world

The way it is right now, if both the internet and radio/tv goes down, anything can happen and it can be blamed on whoever, without any way to prove it right or wrong

Since most people have smart phones these days, there should be plenty of videos uploaded later in the following weeks, once this entire thing ends, then we will see evidence of what truly happened. If we see cops/army killing unarmed civilians then we can judge this as oppression for sure, but on the other hand, if we see civilians killing other civilians and we see guns and shootings and so on, then we can definitely not throw away the "foreign interference" possibility

So yeah, we should see soon enough :)

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1480020477267652609?s=20

1480020477267652609

[ulli]

Just googled, I mean duck-ducked, images of Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan’s capital.

AKA Astana.

A great example of psychopathic leaders delusions of grandeur.

Soviet era (1918–1991)
During World War II, Akmolinsk served as a route for the transport of engineering tools and equipment from evacuated plants in the Ukrainian SSR, Byelorussian SSR, and Russian SFSR located in the oblasts of the Kazakh SSR. Local industries were appointed to respond to war needs, assisting the country to provide the battle and home fronts with all materials needed. In the post-war years, Akmolinsk became a beacon of economic revival in the west of the Soviet Union ruined by the war. Additionally, many Russian-Germans were resettled here after being deported under Joseph Stalin's rule.

In 1954, Northern Kazakh SSR oblasts became a territory of the Virgin Lands Campaign led by Nikita Khrushchev, in order to turn the region into a second grain producer for the Soviet Union.
In December 1960, Central Committee made a resolution to create the Tselinniy Krai, which comprised five regions of the Northern Kazakh SSR oblasts.

Akmolinsk Oblast was ceased to exist as a separate administrative entity. Its districts were directly subordinated to the new krai administration, and Akmolinsk became the krai capital, as well as the administrative seat of the new Virgin Lands economic region.

On 14 March 1961, Khrushchev suggested the city should have a name corresponding to its role in the Virgin Lands Campaign.

On 20 March 1961, the Supreme Soviet of the Kazakh SSR renamed Akmolinsk to Tselinograd.

On 24 April 1961, the region was reconstituted as Tselinograd Oblast.

In the 1960s, Tselinograd was completely transformed.
In 1963, work on the first three new high-rise housing districts began.

In addition, the city received a number of new monumental public buildings, including the Virgin Lands Palace, a Palace of Youth, a House of Soviets, a new airport, and several sports venues.

In 1971, the Tselinniy Krai was abolished and Tselinograd became the centre of the oblast.

Contemporary era (1991–present)

After the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the consequent independence of Kazakhstan, the city's original name was restored in the modified form Akmola.

On 6 July 1994, the Supreme Council of Kazakhstan adopted the decree "On the transfer of the capital of Kazakhstan".

After the capital of Kazakhstan was moved to Akmola on 10 December 1997, the city was consequently renamed Astana in 1998.

On 10 June 1998, Astana was presented as the capital internationally.

On 16 July 1999, Astana was awarded the medal and title of the City of Peace by UNESCO.

On 19 March 2019, president Nursultan Nazarbayev resigned, and on 23 March the city was renamed to Nur-Sultan.

While it is officially called Nur-Sultan, many residents still refer to it as Astana.

https://www.lostwithpurpose.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/astana-modern-architecture_30338017994_o-2.jpg

[Arcturian108]

I just was sent this video about the fall of Kazakhstan and maybe someone on this site can interpret it?

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[pyrangello]

Then in 2016, all the troubles just . . . stopped. It was like someone flipped a switch. That switch was the November, 2016, US Presidential election, wherein Donald Trump won and Hillary Clinton lost. Like magic, most of the troubles in Ukraine simply just stopped.

For the four years of the Trump Administration, Ukraine remained quiet.

The November 2020 US election rolled around and the Democrats in the US stole the election through rampant and brazen election fraud.

Like magic, when Joe Biden got sworn in, the troubles in Ukraine started again with gusto. Ukraine began massing more and more troops and armor near Luhansk and Donetsk. So, in February of this year, Russia started massing troops along the Russian border with Ukraine. Russia was going to protect the Russian-speaking populations in Luhansk and Donetsk.

WHAM! Like magic, the western mass-media began talking up "Russian aggression." Russia, they claimed, was massing troops. They never bothered to mention it was in response to Ukraine massing troops. Russia, they claimed, was a "threat." They never mentioned what Ukraine was planning to do: take Luhansk and Donetsk by force to prevent them from leaving.
World
UPDATED SUNDAY MORNING-SEE BOTTOM - 10:29 AM EST -- Satellites Would Be Attacked First, Then These Radar Stations if WW3 Commences next week

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/satellites-would-be-attacked-first-then-these-radar-stations-if-ww3-commences-next-week
Nation
RUMOR: Biden and Harris EVACUATED to Area 51 on Saturday

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/rumor-biden-and-harris-evacuated-to-area-51-on-saturday

So it looks like tmrw at the NATO summit will be the tell tale sign where this is going. If any of this or all of this is true, and with the track record of Biden and Co. , disaster will be followed by disaster unless Biden wants to keep his little oil enterprise in the Ukraine going, who knows but as a person who remembers the Cuban missle crisis here in the states , why are we doing the same to them now? Unless this is a needed deflection. Read both links in full and it gives you a snapshot why all this is happening and like I started out thread , all was quiet for 4 years, so what changed?

[palehorse]

I was always wondering when the house of illuminatis would fall. I guess we are seeing something here. I am not into US-Russia debate, I will keep my mouth shut about that, appreciated all the posts, very insightful.

[Delight]

Just googled, I mean duck-ducked, images of Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan’s capital.

AKA Astana.

A great example of psychopathic leaders delusions of grandeur.

Soviet era (1918–1991)
During World War II, Akmolinsk served as a route for the transport of engineering tools and equipment from evacuated plants in the Ukrainian SSR, Byelorussian SSR, and Russian SFSR located in the oblasts of the Kazakh SSR. Local industries were appointed to respond to war needs, assisting the country to provide the battle and home fronts with all materials needed. In the post-war years, Akmolinsk became a beacon of economic revival in the west of the Soviet Union ruined by the war. Additionally, many Russian-Germans were resettled here after being deported under Joseph Stalin's rule.

In 1954, Northern Kazakh SSR oblasts became a territory of the Virgin Lands Campaign led by Nikita Khrushchev, in order to turn the region into a second grain producer for the Soviet Union.
In December 1960, Central Committee made a resolution to create the Tselinniy Krai, which comprised five regions of the Northern Kazakh SSR oblasts.

Akmolinsk Oblast was ceased to exist as a separate administrative entity. Its districts were directly subordinated to the new krai administration, and Akmolinsk became the krai capital, as well as the administrative seat of the new Virgin Lands economic region.

On 14 March 1961, Khrushchev suggested the city should have a name corresponding to its role in the Virgin Lands Campaign.

On 20 March 1961, the Supreme Soviet of the Kazakh SSR renamed Akmolinsk to Tselinograd.

On 24 April 1961, the region was reconstituted as Tselinograd Oblast.

In the 1960s, Tselinograd was completely transformed.
In 1963, work on the first three new high-rise housing districts began.

In addition, the city received a number of new monumental public buildings, including the Virgin Lands Palace, a Palace of Youth, a House of Soviets, a new airport, and several sports venues.

In 1971, the Tselinniy Krai was abolished and Tselinograd became the centre of the oblast.

Contemporary era (1991–present)

After the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the consequent independence of Kazakhstan, the city's original name was restored in the modified form Akmola.

On 6 July 1994, the Supreme Council of Kazakhstan adopted the decree "On the transfer of the capital of Kazakhstan".

After the capital of Kazakhstan was moved to Akmola on 10 December 1997, the city was consequently renamed Astana in 1998.

On 10 June 1998, Astana was presented as the capital internationally.

On 16 July 1999, Astana was awarded the medal and title of the City of Peace by UNESCO.

On 19 March 2019, president Nursultan Nazarbayev resigned, and on 23 March the city was renamed to Nur-Sultan.

While it is officially called Nur-Sultan, many residents still refer to it as Astana.

https://www.lostwithpurpose.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/astana-modern-architecture_30338017994_o-2.jpg

That reminds me that I read a few years ago (maybe around 2011 or so?) about a newly created city in one of the "stans". The story was about a tourist/writer who said it was almost deserted but he found a whole authentic "British" pub (transported in total for the UK). There was speculation about tesla tech powering the enormous stretches of lighting at night. I cannot remember where this was?

I don't know if this is true:

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[mountain_jim]

Cliff High is referencing these Kazakhstan actions and indirectly threatening Washington state politicos in a letter/email writing campaign over a law change which could put non-jabbed in concentration camps, supposedly.

https://twitter.com/clif_high/status/1480213159931625472?s=20

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https://twitter.com/clif_high/status/1480218589877600260?s=20


1480218589877600260

[pyrangello]

Here's the latest announcement, this is all very concerning period, if the PTB want to put the Bear in the corner and install missiles 5 minutes away from the Kremlin what do you think the response may be. And then if the notice we have that our leaders here went into a cave , cowards they are then what do they have to loose, we had 4 years of peace and quiet and now it seems like we have a bunch of teenagers running things that are drunk with power getting ready to run the car off a cliff at 100 mph. The local radio station here a little while ago said this would be an interesting week overseas with nato and Russia and that things just aren't sitting well with the aggressors. People have no clue what kind of resources it takes to move all this in place , this isnt play time. Just as Kennedy did with the cuban missile crisis, It was a moment in time that the US did not want missiles this close to its own borders as Russia is responding 60 years later. 4 years of peace and quiet and now we have this , what a bunch of Bullshxx

This is what cliff high is talking about:
Bill Filed In Washington Would Authorize ‘Strike Force’ To ‘Involuntarily Detain’ Unvaccinated Families: ‘They Have Already Set Up The Internment Camps’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/bill-filed-washington-authorize-strike-force-involuntarily-detain-unvaccinated-families-already-set-internment-camps/

Former Kazakhstan Intelligence Chief and ‘Close Friend’ of Bidens is Arrested for Treason
https://21stcenturywire.com/2022/01/09/former-kazakhstan-intelligence-chief-and-close-friend-of-bidens-arrested-for-treason/

[mountain_jim]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/palace-coup-kazakh-security-chief-arrested-treason-was-close-friends-hunter-biden



The Hunter Connection? Kazakh Security Chief Arrested For Treason Was "Close Friends" With Bidens

BY TYLER DURDEN
SUNDAY, JAN 09, 2022 - 03:00 PM

Among the boldest and eye-brow raising political moves by embattled Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev within the past days that grabbed international headlines was his ordering the arrest of Kazakhstan's powerful former intelligence chief, Karim Massimov, on the charge of high treason.

Indicating that amid widespread fuel price unrest which quickly became aimed squarely at toppling Tokayav's rule there's a simultaneous power struggle within the government, Massimov had headed the National Security Committee (KNB) up until his Thursday sudden removal and detention. Massimov had served as the prior longtime strongman ruler Nursultan Nazarbayev's prime minister and has long been considered his "right hand man". Shortly after, a photo has resurfaced, currently subject of widespread speculation which shows Joe Biden and Hunter Biden posing with the now detained Kazakh security chief Karim Massimov, along with well-connected oligarch Kenes Rakishev.

< more at link >



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-kazakhstan-crisis-much-bigger-deal-western-media-letting




Why The Kazakhstan Crisis Is A Much Bigger Deal Than Western Media Is Letting On

BY TYLER DURDEN
SUNDAY, JAN 09, 2022 - 01:00 PM
Geopolitical commentator Clint Ehrlich has reported while on the ground in Moscow that "the situation in Kazakhstan is a much bigger deal than Western media is letting on." He further argues that the mayhem unleashed this past week and ongoing violent destabilization significantly increases the risk of NATO-Russia conflict.

He asks the key question: what really is happening in Kazakhstan? After all, he writes "In America, the situation in Kazakhstan is a small news item" but it remains that "in Moscow, it is currently receiving 24/7 news coverage, like it's an apocalyptic threat to Russia's security. I've had the TV on here while writing this thread, and Kazakhstan has been on the entire time." Below is Ehrlich's mega-thread from Twitter exploring the crisis and connecting the dots in terms of why this is a bigger deal than many believe...

Mass protests and anti-government violence have left dozens dead. Russia is deploying 3,000 paratroopers after Kazakh security forces were overrun. The largest city, Almaty, looks like a warzone. To appreciate why Russia is willing to deploy troops to Kazakhstan, it's critical to understand the depth of Russia's vital national interests inside the country. This isn't just any former Soviet republic. It's almost as important to Russia as Belarus or Ukraine.

< more at link >

[Mashika]

Report for Monday 10

[Original source is in Russian]
Current situation in Kazakhstan. Hourly reports: (https://t.me/rt_russian/87785)



- Today is a day of national mourning in the country;

- There is no general figure for the dead. It is known about 18 dead security forces: two military and 16 policemen;

- The involvement of the CSTO contingent allowed the Kazakh authorities to protect the integrity of the country, Secretary of State Yerlan Karin said on local TV;

- Karin added that what happened was not a color revolution: "We are faced with a hybrid terrorist attack on Kazakhstan with the aim of destabilization and coup." At the same time, there was a conspiracy of internal and external forces, he noted;

- Kazakhstan's security forces are confronting terrorists, not "peaceful protesters," the country's Foreign Ministry said. Among them were people with combat experience on the side of Islamists in hot spots, the ministry added;

- 7939 people were detained throughout Kazakhstan. 5 stolen cars, stolen inventory items, 2 units of smoothbore and 4 bladed weapons were seized;

- During the riots, the protesters wanted to seize the swords and spears of the Huns from the Central State Museum of Kazakhstan in Alma-Ata, Khabar 24 TV channel reported. They were dissuaded by the deputy director of the institution;

- The first Aeroflot flight has arrived in Nur-Sultan since the beginning of the crisis.

[Bill Ryan]

Another report from Zero Hedge: (quite an interesting one, too)


https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kazakhstan-denies-us-funded-military-biological-lab-seized-rioters-after-russia-claims

Kazakhstan Denies US-Funded 'Military Biological Lab' Seized By Rioters After Russia Claims Potential Pathogen Leak

Kazakh officials have denied that a US-funded 'military biological laboratory' was seized by rioters in the recent unrest, which has seen at least 160 dead since the violence broke out just one week ago.

https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/lab1.PNG?itok=SO-l56EL

It is unclear whether the deaths, reported by the health ministry to state news channel Khabar-24, are primarily civilians or law enforcement according to the Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384151/Kazakhstan-denies-funded-bio-lab-seized-protesters-deaths-rise-164-bloody-riots.html) - however officials said on Sunday that at least 16 police or national guard members had been killed. Pictures of Kazakh secret service operatives killed during the unrest have also been released.

According to Russian media, the biolab near Almaty - built in 2017 and used to study outbreaks of particularly dangerous infections - was 'compromised,' resulting in a potential leak of dangerous pathogens. Kazakh officials have denied the claim.

(The article continues (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kazakhstan-denies-us-funded-military-biological-lab-seized-rioters-after-russia-claims))

[I am B]

I just came to the realisation that if anyone has to get their hands dirty here, its gonna be PMCs like the Wagner company or their actual American counterpart, be it Blackwater, Academy, or however they call themselves now.

This would fit with what Mashika mentioned of trained insurgents doing the job, as it happened in the Donbass.

I guess we can just wait for some english accent soldier footage appearing as it did back then. And I'd say its fair to asume Russian PMCs are dealing with the situation already.

Anyone resourceful enough to find out if those kind people may have moved there? I found a big list of Russian planes moving to the area, but thats it.

I'll refind it and update edit this post.

Update:
They are all presumed to be military.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Gerjon_/status/1479894536138764289


Update 2: Small News to back my thoughts.
https://mobile.twitter.com/theragex/status/1480441723528613891

[Mashika]

Protesters shooting at the police building

https://t.me/rt_russian/87965
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This also is linked to what some people have been saying the past days, about some of the people involved on the protests

https://t.me/rt_russian/87980


"There were some cars without license plates, that is, it was clear that no one approached them, they were not robbed, they were not broken. I understood that it was some kind of spotters."

A resident of Alma-Ata told our correspondent Igor @zhdanovrt Zhdanov that the protesters who caused chaos on the streets of the city were led by:

"Militants, groups of people with bats, helmets, and police shields were running through these streets and courtyards."

In the crowd, he said, there were young people who beat the shields with batons, forcing others to run to the square:

"Some kind of panic was starting to go on, and I already realized that this was not a peaceful demonstration. There were a lot of people who were standing in the middle of the street, not hurrying anywhere in this chaos and constantly talking on the phone, were warmly dressed, in good things."


Videos on cell phones, like the ones this witness has, will be the most important thing in the following days, to show the people from outside what truly was going on while the internet/media was down
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[DNA]

So,
To encapsulate what I'm reading.
Russia is pissed. Russia is broadcasting to their citizens that Kazakhstan and the over throwing of the government have been done as more or less a classic USA cia regime change.
This is a big deal.
Largest uninterrupted country boarder in the world.
20% of the Kazakhstan population are Russian born citizens.
From what I understand in Kazakhstan a majority of the population is Muslim and Russia fears for it's natural born citizens being genocided.
We saw a calm from the Ukraine during Trump's administration but now back to meddling as Biden is another military industrial complex deep state pawn.

[pueblo]

*** Edit: Apologies to Bill, I missed your post above re: same!

Slightly worrying news...apparently they had been playing with Smallpox at this facility.


Kazakhstan denies US-funded bio-lab was seized by protesters
January 10, 2022

Officials in Kazakhstan have denied that a controversial ‘military biological laboratory’ was seized in the recent unrest, which has so far claimed 160 lives since starting on January 2.

It is not clear if the 164 deaths refer only to civilians or if law enforcement deaths are included, but the number – provided by the health ministry to state news channel Khabar-24 – are a significant rise from previous tallies.

Kazakh authorities said earlier on Sunday that 16 police or national guard members had been killed.

Russian media highlighted claims that the US-funded facility near Almaty was compromised, resulting in a possible leak of dangerous pathogens.

The airport, mayor’s office and secret services buildings fell briefly into the hands of rioters during a wave of protests backed by shadowy armed cells.

© Provided by Daily Mail
Officials in Kazakhstan have denied claims that a US-funded bio-lab had fallen into the hands of protesters, who briefly took control of an airport, the mayor’s office and secret service buildings

The secret bio-laboratory funded by the US defence department – which has links to Russian and Chinese scientists – was also compromised in the disturbances, according to social media claims that it was seized.

‘This is not true. The facility is being guarded,’ said the health ministry which is responsible for the Central Reference Laboratory, in Almaty.

Official Russian news agency TASS had highlighted alleged social media reports that it was taken over by ‘unidentified people’ and ‘specialists in chemical protection suits were working near the lab so a leak of dangerous pathogens could have occurred’.

The laboratory’s existence has been controversial and in 2020 the country formally denied that it was being used to make biological weapons.

At the time, the Kazakh government stated: ‘No biological weapons development is underway in Kazakhstan – and no research is conducted against any other states.’

It was built in 2017 and is used for the study of outbreaks of particularly dangerous infections.

Dangerous pathogens are stored here, it is reported.

https://www.aufinancenews.com/2022/01/10/kazakhstan-denies-us-funded-bio-lab-was-seized-by-protesters/

[kfm27917]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-after-kazakhstan-color-revolution-era-over

What happened in Kazakhstan increasingly looks like a US-Turkish-British-Israeli-led coup d'etat attempt foiled dramatically by their Eurasian adversaries...

Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev framed it succinctly. Riots were “hidden behind unplanned protests.” The goal was “to seize power” – a coup attempt. Actions were “coordinated from a single center.” And “foreign militants were involved in the riots.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin went further: during the riots, “Maidan technologies were used,” a reference to the Ukranian square where 2013 protests unseated a NATO-unfriendly government.

Defending the prompt intervention of CSTO peacekeeping forces in Kazakhstan, Putin said, “it was necessary to react without delay.” The CSTO will be on the ground “as long as necessary,” but after the mission is accomplished, “of course, the entire contingent will be withdrawn from the country.” Forces are expected to exit later this week.

[Bill Ryan]

Clif High has two Ukrainian Kazakhstan-connected contacts (one of them in Kazakhstan right now), and he reports on the very dramatic situation there from 5:48—11:00 in this new video.

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[Natasha]

I want to add few things that would help to understand big picture:
- Operation Gladio and major point "who runs Central Asia runs the world..." please see James Corbett report and video about this if you already did not see it
- Nothing new or original in puppet revolutions, sorry skepticism comes from my Balkans origin, and of course there was foreign influence and big help in Kazakhstan as well...
- Banks are robbed and ATMs empty, this is not new but it is important on the symbolic level
- Precious metals, uranium in the first place, maybe this is underlaying cause (one of many) so which corporates are interested to put their hands on these resources :-) Whitney Webb had great interview about countries that have precious metals as major resources and their future status in December 2021
- PCST, I do not have enough knowledge about them, and it is not clear for me, why they already left Kazakhstan leaving few people and equipment that would protect the most important military and government facilities. If Kazakhstan is in so big crisis and member of PCST why it is not supported while it is not stable? This is where Russian interest is not clear to me.

[Mashika]

I want to add few things that would help to understand big picture:
- Operation Gladio and major point "who runs Central Asia runs the world..." please see James Corbett report and video about this if you already did not see it
- Nothing new or original in puppet revolutions, sorry skepticism comes from my Balkans origin, and of course there was foreign influence and big help in Kazakhstan as well...
- Banks are robbed and ATMs empty, this is not new but it is important on the symbolic level
- Precious metals, uranium in the first place, maybe this is underlaying cause (one of many) so which corporates are interested to put their hands on these resources :-) Whitney Webb had great interview about countries that have precious metals as major resources and their future status in December 2021




- PCST, I do not have enough knowledge about them, and it is not clear for me, why they already left Kazakhstan leaving few people and equipment that would protect the most important military and government facilities. If Kazakhstan is in so big crisis and member of PCST why it is not supported while it is not stable? This is where Russian interest is not clear to me.

A request/review to the Russian military as how fast turnaround they have for crisis reaction has been initiated days ago. This means the readiness test, so as to go back to Kazakhstan, arriving in full force and with full capacity of action and deployment, for example, in a day or two, in the case it would be needed

Western countries would benefit for having a west-friendly government on Kazakhstan, as it would open another front against Russia other than Ukraine, which is a failed western project so far. This is in relation as to why would they care, along with the mineral resources, but yes, there's a lot of resources on Kazakhstan, possibly more than anyone knows, since it's untapped and no research has been seriously made

[ThePythonicCow]

This is where Russian interest is not clear to me.
My take is that Kazakhstan was intended to be a new world headquarters of the Dark Hats, and that Russia stopped that from happening.

You can see how I fit Kazakhstan into what's happening, in my new post Post #127, "The Architecture of the Debt Money System" (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116122-The-Money-Masters-Crises-of-war-plague-and-hunger-Total-central-real-time-control-of-all-money.&p=1484726&viewfull=1#post1484726), on my Money Masters thread,