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terragunn
10th January 2022, 06:28
Much to be said...





Mod note from Bill:
If there's much to be said, please say more. :)
At the moment, this thread (and this post) will make no sense to anyone.

ExomatrixTV
10th January 2022, 16:28
Much to be said...




Mod note from Bill:
If there's much to be said, please say more. :)
At the moment, this thread (and this post) will make no sense to anyone.

Big chance anything he can say is already discussed elsewhere in one of the 1000s of Project Avalon Forum Threads unless he can bring really new stuff to the table ... which I LOVE to see & study what that exactly is.

am optimistic :popcorn::pop2:

cheers,
John

-WQw_SsZ7_0

terragunn
10th January 2022, 17:11
Yes, of course.
First off, examine the Christmas ritual and the Christmas tree ritual. Christmas is not the birth of the son (sun), but a celebration of the death of the son (sun): Saturnalia. In this regard, this is the Ahrimanic period when the sun is furthest away from Polaris – the fixed and immovable North Star; fixed and immovable as is the terra plane which it oversees.
The Christmas tree is symbolic of the ecliptic: the path of the sun over the terra (earth) plane. The Christmas tree is conical; and so is the path of the ecliptic. Irwin Allen’s film The Poseidon Adventure is a poke-in-the-eye, wake-up call for this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MKwR7JipEc

More to come...

ExomatrixTV
10th January 2022, 17:33
David Icke Saturn Is Not What You Think It Is Either

vPZFoIGqalo
Cited text of video segment:

"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took
over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The Predator is
our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to
protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it
demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this
time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we
are held prisoner!

"This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took
us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly
because we are their sustenance. just as we rear chickens in chicken
coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their
food is always available to them."

Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the
contradictions between the intelligence of man the engineer and the
stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory
behaviour. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems
of belief, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones
who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure.

They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the
predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."

In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged
themselves in a stupendous manoeuvre stupendous, of course,
from the point of view of a fighting strategist.

A horrendous manoeuvre from the point of view of those who suffer it.
They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind,
which becomes our mind.

The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose,
filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now."

Don Juan continues: "'I know that even though you have never suffered hunger...
you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator
who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered
and food is going to be denied.

Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject
into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them.
And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer
against their fear.'" (Castaneda, 1998, pp. 213-220)

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were quite ill at ease with the idea of
when [the predator] made its appearance on Earth.

They reasoned that man must have been a complete being at one point,
with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological legends nowadays.
And then, everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man.
What I'm saying is that what we have against us is not a simple predator.
It is very smart, and organized. It follows a methodical system to render us useless.
Man, the magical being that he is destined to be, is no longer magical.
He's an average piece of meat."

"There are no more dreams for man but the dreams of an animal who is being raised
to become a piece of meat: trite, conventional, imbecilic.”


― Carlos Castañeda (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castaneda), The Active Side of Infinity

terragunn
10th January 2022, 23:41
Polaris is the portal through which we entered this computation Matrix: the computation Matrix of Polaris and Saturn. Saturn was the first in, which is why Saturn is the furthest luminary south of Polaris; and why Saturn is the Lord of the Rings – the Rings being evolutionary stages of earth evolution.
The current stage of earth evolution in the Polaris-Saturn computation Matrix is Earth. The former stages of earth were Moon, Sun, and Saturn. The Chakra system provides a gauge to where we are now: the heart centre: 1 surrounded by 6.

terragunn
10th January 2022, 23:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh8IiMjgX7s

terragunn
13th January 2022, 03:11
FMy intention for this thread is to provide helpful information to reveal, what I call, the computation Matrix, which is book-ended by Polaris and Saturn – not physical bodies, but celestial bodies. There is much I will say in regards to such, and the much I will say will be in portions of revelation: revelation of Gnosis. Funny thing, that, as every Gnostic I have met is in complete denial of Gnosis, and is still playing Dungeons and Dragons (which I played, as well). Ready Player One? Book, not the movie.

I am going to ‘piss off’ some ‘people’ here. And some I will not.

This has been said before – ‘It all goes back to Saturn’. Well, it certainly seems so, in regards to this system – the system of the computation Matrix – within which are numerous matrices/levels or planes of density and density consciousness experience of existence. Saturn is referred also to Father Time/Kronos, and without time there is no space; for one to experience space one must experience time. Kronos eats its children, which is symbolic of the incarnational cycle of souls.
I am a Steiner scholar; and of Charles Leadbeater, too.
Steiner nor Leadbeater, knew not of the Astrals in their TRUE form. How is this so, when both have gone about such in their writings and lectures, and alleged clairvoyance?

As always – much more to be said…

terragunn
13th January 2022, 03:29
Not entirely accurate, but here is a graph of the Spiritual Hier (Liar) Archy:https://anthropopper.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/screen-shot-2015-09-19-at-20-37-50.png

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Earth is an anagram of heart, isn't it, Bill?

terragunn
13th January 2022, 03:36
Just for the fun, lovelies:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kApRCq_C2Hw

terragunn
13th January 2022, 04:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOaFkY5bbE

terragunn
14th January 2022, 07:16
The moon: The moon is associated with death, dream state, and the astral realm. The moon Is associated also with Luciferic beings, as well as Yahweh – the Regent of old Moon and the Lord of Form, as well as Lord of Time. Yahweh is the Lord of Time? Surely the Lord of Time would be Ahriman, yes?

Yes and no.

Yahweh is a Fire Spirit (of the Sun: Old sun) and is the Lord of Form; and yet the Spirits of Form – the Elohim (Exusiai) – are above Yahweh? A slight discrepancy? Not so. In this regard there is a spiritually-provable evidence and correlation to Yahweh /Yaldebaoth and the 7 Archons.

In regards to the Luciferic beings being connected to Venus – where does this come from? From the Luciferic beings which come from Old Moon, and which are trapped there – in the astral.

Mercury is the Morning Star.

terragunn
14th January 2022, 07:51
The following is for illustration/infotainment...entry and falling...


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1yfu1

terragunn
14th January 2022, 08:08
And, of course...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs3xXlXSOKk

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3NE6UuaLiY

terragunn
14th January 2022, 08:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHWJg8q7cRk

terragunn
14th January 2022, 08:53
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bM0wVjU2-k

lake
14th January 2022, 20:57
I always read your posts in the past so may I ask if this is an extension of your thread here ....

The Game The Computation Matrix (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85386-The-Game-The-Computation-Matrix)

terragunn
14th January 2022, 21:31
Yes; but far more...

Journeyman
14th January 2022, 22:39
Yes; but far more...

I'm enjoying your presentation so far.

Your comments about electron and proton in the thread @lake referred to reminded me a little of the work of Bryan Kermilla. Not sure if you've come across him?

terragunn
15th January 2022, 04:54
Yes; but far more...

I'm enjoying your presentation so far.

Your comments about electron and proton in the thread @lake referred to reminded me a little of the work of Bryan Kermilla. Not sure if you've come across him?

In this reference, clarity of such would be examined; but that name: Bryan Kermilla, proceeded by 'work': such does not register.

Please illuminate me.

terragunn
15th January 2022, 05:11
Interestingly enough, when I was talking about the very same thing years ago on this forum, I was completely unaware of Asher, his books, and these podcasts:


http://radio.offplanetmedia.net/2016/12/26/triunity-series-with-dr-shmuel-asher-episode-5-the-false-heaven-matrix/

terragunn
15th January 2022, 05:31
A very salient question is asked in this interview/podcast: where is the memory of any incarnation stored? My answer: such is stored in the Oversoul, which is part and parcel to the 'Mind' of the 'father'. All incarnations are stored in the aetheric 'body' of a particular incarnation.

The aetheric body holds memory of one particular incarnation; for that particular incarnation is a soul life sentence.

Once the physical body dissolves, so does the aetheric body.

terragunn
15th January 2022, 06:10
Hiram Abif...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fc36Hc2n2s

terragunn
15th January 2022, 06:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_sCRZ2m8s8

terragunn
15th January 2022, 07:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SWDVkvPy4I


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBP063uTgQ

terragunn
15th January 2022, 07:39
https://vimeo.com/groups/europeancinema/videos/100354571

terragunn
15th January 2022, 08:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNUWjpIQEhM

terragunn
15th January 2022, 09:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsiE8ABiztU

Journeyman
15th January 2022, 10:56
Yes; but far more...

I'm enjoying your presentation so far.

Your comments about electron and proton in the thread @lake referred to reminded me a little of the work of Bryan Kermilla. Not sure if you've come across him?

In this reference, clarity of such would be examined; but that name: Bryan Kermilla, proceeded by 'work': such does not register.

Please illuminate me.

Apologies, I should've provided a link with that last post. It's also worth stating that I do not want to divert your thread, which I'm enjoying, so if my introducing this persons work seems like a distraction, let me know and I'll delete my posts on it. He is discussed elsewhere on one of those thousands of threads that @Exomatrix referenced so it's not as if I'm telling anyone anything new.

His work is a little difficult to follow, being presented on a wordpress blog which over time has become a little confusing, this I think is the right page to direct you to: https://illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com/about/

Aside from the electron/proton aspect of creating the reality illusion another area of correspondence seemed to be in the table you posted above of the spiritual liar archy, see this image (https://illuminatimatrix.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/luciferian-2-chart.jpg?w=480&zoom=2) for BK's version.

Without subscribing to his worldview (mine is currently 'under construction') I do admire his observational skills. He, perhaps like yourself, makes a lot of links around language, maps, place names, shapes of man made and natural landmarks etc. I don't always follow them, but I think he's on the right track and I am noticing far more syncs myself in the world around me because where I have come to agree with Bryan is that we exist in an occulted world, far beyond what even the most 'awake' discern, where language (especially Angelish), history, aspects of science and other knowledge bases have been distorted, inverted and corrupted in order to bring about a particular mind state. Picking our way out of this is akin to traversing the labyrinth blindfolded, but that's the task before us.

Please let me know if any of this is a distraction as I said above, happy to delete at your request. :)

Merkaba360
16th January 2022, 12:19
A very salient question is asked in this interview/podcast: where is the memory of any incarnation stored? My answer: such is stored in the Oversoul, which is part and parcel to the 'Mind' of the 'father'. All incarnations are stored in the aetheric 'body' of a particular incarnation.

The aetheric body holds memory of one particular incarnation; for that particular incarnation is a soul life sentence.

Once the physical body dissolves, so does the aetheric body.

I'm quite sure that is not correct. Fractals don't work that way. Where is not so relevant in a fractal. It is more like, everywhere! The ultimate redundancy. The death of the explicate order would not require the loss of the implicate order. So many layers to the fractal onion or web. I'd say it's stored in the earths memory. and when the earth dies, its all stored in the solar system fractally. And when sol dies, its backed up by the galaxy. The capabilities of life is pretty incredible, and since survival is such a big thing, I think it is extremely capable of that.

On the other hand, Certain nasty beings who become so opposite of source and refuse to reverse ways may possibly go thru being erased eventually. This is eluded to in the matrix. That those that face being erased usually choose exile. Basically, they delay the process. It may very well be the exiled beings who are cut off and envious that are indirectly causing havoc with humans and such.

So, the peculiar word in christianity of being "saved" might actually be very accurate when seen in a new light.

terragunn
17th January 2022, 01:02
@Journeyman:
Thank you for the clarification, links, and comments. I’ve not heard of, nor come across, this website before; but some of the information presented makes me feel like I am back-peddling to a tract I’ve gone over already, observed, absorbed, considered, discerned, and passed. But I can see your reason for referencing Bryan and this website, as there is some relevant interconnection and cross-over between some of the things I have said and some of the things he has.

terragunn
17th January 2022, 02:14
@Merkaba360
In regards to the Polaris, Saturn, Sun, Moon, Earth computation Matrix – per Spiritual Science (and my own dabbling), the rudiments of the ‘physical’ Human being and earth ‘body’ began on Ancient Saturn as a ‘body’ of warmth (or ‘fire’): a body of convectional warmth or heat being the most apt description. In this regard, this was the rudiments of the blood system – the heart organ, breathing in and out the warmth within to the warmth without, which, in a sense, was the first polarity experienced in this ‘system’. The rudimentary Human being and earth in its Ancient Saturn stage was without illumination: such was in darkness, black. Blood is red; Ancient Saturn was dark (black). Esoterically it is here we get the proverbial colours of the Devil or Satan: Ahriman. Ahriman represents the physical world and the descent into the physical world/density and density consciousness; death of the spiritual world we – as eternal beings of consciousness – are, and come, from. However, such was not physical. Of density, yes; but not what we in our current incarnational density consciousness would call physical.
The aetheric body – via further descent – comes later, via Old sun. The astral body, via further, further descent, from Old Moon. Each and every ‘body’ is a construct – an overlay.

Via Spiritual Science and countless cases of OBEs, NDEs, and PLRs – I will point out evidence that the aetheric body holds memory of one’s soul-life-sentence incarnation, and that such is transferred to another source, shortly after physical death, and erased from the ‘I’ (Ego) body.

In regards to this, friend – shall we tackle the astral body, as well?

terragunn
17th January 2022, 02:28
@Journeyman:
Thank you for the clarification, links, and comments. I’ve not heard of, nor come across, this website before; but some of the information presented makes me feel like I am back-peddling to a tract I’ve gone over already, observed, absorbed, considered, discerned, and passed. But I can see your reason for referencing Bryan and this website, as there is some relevant interconnection and cross-over between some of the things I have said and some of the things he has.

Curious to note, friend: is there information regarding the Astrals in Bryan's 'work'?

terragunn
17th January 2022, 02:43
Astral body: well, let us look to Old Moon, yes? We have aetheric body from Old Sun, and 'physical body' rudiments from Ancient Saturn; what is to stop building upon such?

terragunn
17th January 2022, 02:49
Lucifer, Ahriman, and the demiourous (Yahweh/Jehovah) are the Holy Trinity of Evil. And yet they are not; your NPCs are.

terragunn
17th January 2022, 02:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo_GMMLULXw

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5g7NdWV8ig

terragunn
17th January 2022, 04:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p554R-Jq43A

terragunn
17th January 2022, 05:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CzLdg0PpLI

terragunn
17th January 2022, 05:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOaFkY5bbE

Merkaba360
17th January 2022, 06:11
@Merkaba360
In regards to the Polaris, Saturn, Sun, Moon, Earth computation Matrix – per Spiritual Science (and my own dabbling), the rudiments of the ‘physical’ Human being and earth ‘body’ began on Ancient Saturn as a ‘body’ of warmth (or ‘fire’): a body of convectional warmth or heat being the most apt description. In this regard, this was the rudiments of the blood system – the heart organ, breathing in and out the warmth within to the warmth without, which, in a sense, was the first polarity experienced in this ‘system’. The rudimentary Human being and earth in its Ancient Saturn stage was without illumination: such was in darkness, black. Blood is red; Ancient Saturn was dark (black). Esoterically it is here we get the proverbial colours of the Devil or Satan: Ahriman. Ahriman represents the physical world and the descent into the physical world/density and density consciousness; death of the spiritual world we – as eternal beings of consciousness – are, and come, from. However, such was not physical. Of density, yes; but not what we in our current incarnational density consciousness would call physical.
The aetheric body – via further descent – comes later, via Old sun. The astral body, via further, further descent, from Old Moon. Each and every ‘body’ is a construct – an overlay.

Via Spiritual Science and countless cases of OBEs, NDEs, and PLRs – I will point out evidence that the aetheric body holds memory of one’s soul-life-sentence incarnation, and that such is transferred to another source, shortly after physical death, and erased from the ‘I’ (Ego) body.

In regards to this, friend – shall we tackle the astral body, as well?


rereading and looking at the above response, I believe I have actually misinterpreted what you were saying though. So, sorry if I made that booboo.

I thought you meant that all memory of our life was erased after death, since the physical dies , thus the aetheric. But, I guess you are saying the memory in the aetheric get transferred. So, that I can agree with since it is aligned with the science :)

Anyway, the knowledge you have on the relation between our bodies and Sol's celestial bodies is quite interesting. Keep going with that. thanks.

terragunn
18th January 2022, 07:58
The Aetheric Body
In relation to the earth/Human evolution (which has to do with ‘falling’ into density and density consciousness), the aetheric body was the second body/overlay, created/engineered during the Old sun stage of earth and Human evolution. The aetheric body is known also as the ‘Life Body’; but more accurately, only in regards to the mid-stage Lumerian epoch of Earth, for this was the stage when Human beings (Beings of Eternal Consciousness) – via Lucifer – descended so far into density and density consciousness, that they were now in the sheaths of Ahriman/materialism. In other words, Spirit was trapped in physical matter via a low density sheath. This is, of course, pre-Antediluvian (Atlantis epoch of Earth).

Much to go into about that, but in the current stage of Earth and the Human being evolutionary progression, the aetheric body serves now more as a depository of memory (which will be transferred), as equally as such is a ‘life glue’, which holds the physical body together when the ‘I’ and the astral body departs when we sleep, daydream, meditate, astral project, ‘remote view’, etc.

terragunn
18th January 2022, 08:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS3ZVoK8oAQ

terragunn
18th January 2022, 08:24
The banking system of the computation Matrix, ultimately, is a 'soul bank', and karma is both currency and debt, controlled by the Astrals. As above, so below.

terragunn
19th January 2022, 08:34
Although I mentioned such briefly, a most salient aspect of the aetheric body overlay is that such contains the memory of one’s most recent soul life sentence incarnation after one ‘dies’. Without the physical body, the aetheric body no longer has a purpose in regards to such, and is one of the reasons why such begins to dissolve slowly after physical death. Upon dying, and like waking from a dream, one will soon forget one’s previous incarnation, and – unless one has done one’s ‘homework’ during one’s now past physical incarnation and has sent out continually and focused on the intention of what one will do when one ‘dies’ – will be in a ‘limbo state’ of consciousness, where one will be disoriented and vulnerable to the Astrals’ temptations and intervention to draw one into their False Heaven/’Paradise’ Matrix. These particular beings are Luciferic forces that have been consigned/trapped in the astral realm, which is, of course, connected to Old moon. These beings influence the astral body of the Human being; for it is within the Human being’s astral body the Luciferic forces operate. Lucifer operates in the soul and blood; Ahriman in the bone and mind.

terragunn
19th January 2022, 09:07
In The Game: The computation Matrix (the Polaris-Saturn Matrix Solar System), the Beings of Eternal Consciousness that have advanced the most (via descending), are the ones who are experiencing this current stage of earth and Human being experience/evolution, via this particular epoch of incarnation. In this regard, and in this current stage, the amount of NPCs/backdrop/background filler is enormous.

terragunn
19th January 2022, 09:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDKZzBXz9LU

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE-6us9zFPQ

terragunn
19th January 2022, 09:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWVL4B-4pI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANb1AA35o9I

Journeyman
19th January 2022, 09:59
@Journeyman:
Thank you for the clarification, links, and comments. I’ve not heard of, nor come across, this website before; but some of the information presented makes me feel like I am back-peddling to a tract I’ve gone over already, observed, absorbed, considered, discerned, and passed. But I can see your reason for referencing Bryan and this website, as there is some relevant interconnection and cross-over between some of the things I have said and some of the things he has.

Curious to note, friend: is there information regarding the Astrals in Bryan's 'work'?

Not that I can recall or a quick check revealed (site isn't easiest to navigate). I think BK may be quite closely aligned with the Carlos Castaneda Shaman account of the parasites which give us an illusory mind which is not really us. When he talks of breaking through that it's to a 'wisdom' state outside of time and the physical, which is our natural mode of being. Where the astral body fits into that model of if BK accounts for it is unclear to me. However it's awhile since I dug through his site so I may not be accurate there.

I'm continuing to enjoy your work and holding back on asking questions or introducing further distractions :)

terragunn
19th January 2022, 10:29
@Journeyman:
Thank you for the clarification, links, and comments. I’ve not heard of, nor come across, this website before; but some of the information presented makes me feel like I am back-peddling to a tract I’ve gone over already, observed, absorbed, considered, discerned, and passed. But I can see your reason for referencing Bryan and this website, as there is some relevant interconnection and cross-over between some of the things I have said and some of the things he has.

Curious to note, friend: is there information regarding the Astrals in Bryan's 'work'?

Not that I can recall or a quick check revealed (site isn't easiest to navigate). I think BK may be quite closely aligned with the Carlos Castaneda Shaman account of the parasites which give us an illusory mind which is not really us. When he talks of breaking through that it's to a 'wisdom' state outside of time and the physical, which is our natural mode of being. Where the astral body fits into that model of if BK accounts for it is unclear to me. However it's awhile since I dug through his site so I may not be accurate there.

I'm continuing to enjoy your work and holding back on asking questions or introducing further distractions :)

Please ask questions and introduce distractions: I am all for such:O)

terragunn
19th January 2022, 10:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBW8Vnp8BzU

Journeyman
19th January 2022, 10:55
@Journeyman:
Thank you for the clarification, links, and comments. I’ve not heard of, nor come across, this website before; but some of the information presented makes me feel like I am back-peddling to a tract I’ve gone over already, observed, absorbed, considered, discerned, and passed. But I can see your reason for referencing Bryan and this website, as there is some relevant interconnection and cross-over between some of the things I have said and some of the things he has.

Curious to note, friend: is there information regarding the Astrals in Bryan's 'work'?

Not that I can recall or a quick check revealed (site isn't easiest to navigate). I think BK may be quite closely aligned with the Carlos Castaneda Shaman account of the parasites which give us an illusory mind which is not really us. When he talks of breaking through that it's to a 'wisdom' state outside of time and the physical, which is our natural mode of being. Where the astral body fits into that model of if BK accounts for it is unclear to me. However it's awhile since I dug through his site so I may not be accurate there.

I'm continuing to enjoy your work and holding back on asking questions or introducing further distractions :)

Please ask questions and introduce distractions: I am all for such:O)

Now you've done it!

On the astral. I haven't done this, nor have I opened my third eye. It's on the 'to do list'. So I'm not speaking from experience. I have done a lot of digging however. At some point I stumbled across this explanation (http://forum.presbeia-protoi.org/viewtopic.php?f=132&t=1752) for the astral worlds. Again, not endorsing this worldview (http://forum.presbeia-protoi.org/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=1694), but once you accept the idea of a matrix reality, does the next question become the purpose of that matrix and indeed what may lie beyond it? Certainly I've given thought to Wes Penre's look at NDE and the 'don't go into the light' argument.

As I said previously, my own world view is under construction. I do feel drawn to Steiner and I've seen you mention Ahrimanic forces, which seem to me to be ever stronger in this current world, a vindication for his worldview. I also think Astrology is key to understanding this system, what do you make of it? One person that I follow, Lavette Hawkins, says that Alchemy and Astrology are the same thing and the Zodiac is an Alchemical circle.

From what I can discern of TPTB they pay close attention to Astrology, Gematria, Alchemy and the worship or acknowledgement of entities represented by the ancient pantheons. I can see aspects of the control matrix they've constructed in the architecture and above all symbolism of the world. I think there's energy harvesting at work as well as the operation of a spell which binds all of us to one degree or another, instead of 'awake' I prefer to think of a spectrum which covers Deep sleep (nearly all of us) to light slumber :)

I could fill your thread with the different interesting voices I've found saying one thing or another. I am beginning to retreat from rabbit hole digging because it doesn't get me anywhere and that may be the purpose. I do however believe we're in a system, a matrix if you like and that As Above, So Below, is as true today as it ever was.

terragunn
20th January 2022, 03:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWhnDYyYDjk

terragunn
20th January 2022, 05:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enuOArEfqGo

terragunn
20th January 2022, 05:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV2Q41o-rwE

terragunn
20th January 2022, 06:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlIhdOta8Xw

terragunn
21st January 2022, 02:17
@Journeyman: ...'but once you accept the idea of a matrix reality, does the next question become the purpose of that matrix and indeed what may lie beyond it?'

I would say the purpose was, initially, to experience density, and, by becoming ‘densified’, to interact with form. Time or the illusion of Time was necessary in this regard so as to interact with form for longer durations. As Beings of Eternal Consciousness who have the capacity to create, experience of such had to be undertaken in order to gain greater experience of such. As Beings of Eternal Consciousness in our pre-density state, exploring different levels or planes of density consciousness existence would have been appealing. I say appealing, but compelled by a higher force may be more accurate, as we had not developed the ‘I’ (Ego) until the mid-Lemurian stage of Earth. In order to create worlds we would have to pour/sacrifice something of our divine spark/Source energy into those worlds, and hence become a part of those worlds. In this sense, when earth was in its Ancient Saturn stage of evolution, we were one with the earth, not separated from and walking on it, as we are now. This said we descended from the waters above into the waters below – meaning: descended further and further into density and density consciousness; further expansion via further externalisation from the entry point in which we emerged: the Polaris portal. Beyond the Polaris portal could be what Gnostics call the Pleroma. Such may also be what is referred to as the Void or the Quintessence. Personally, I see the Quintessence as the 1st and highest level/plane of density, and the Void, that which is beyond density.

terragunn
21st January 2022, 03:33
Despite all the gratuitous violence, gore, and sex – Seasons 1 and 2 of Westworld is, in my opinion, the 2nd greatest Gnostic TV series in this current stage of time; the first being the heavily-Gnostic 1960s TV series, The Prisoner.

Dolores combined is the Biblical Eve figure, the Gnostic Sophia figure, as well as the Luciferic figure. Robert Ford combined is the demiourgos Yahweh/Jehovah and Ahrimanic figure. Teddy Flood is the Biblical Adam figure. The Man in Black is the Luciferic figure. Maeve is the Mary Magdalene figure. Bernard is the Christ impulse. Arnold is the God above God (in this sense, the Creator above the demiourgos creator) figure. The Hosts are the earthly incarnates trapped in the incarnational ‘soul’ recycle. The Guests are Luciferic and Ahrimanic impulses and influences. And the Lords of Form (Elohim) and the Archons are worked into this, as well.

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 08:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnQYtbbsJzM

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 09:01
My experience with the Astrals last night during dream state was quite different. Nasty, nasty ****e and illusions they threw at me; and I called them up and out, for each of each, every one of them. Kicked them effing out each time.

The Astrals will use familiar characters/programmes in one's current incarnational reality. In my situation, and with my innerstanding, I wonder why they even bother.

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 09:24
My post was censored and limited

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 09:53
I am so sorry for saying that, Bill. But there is something seriously wrong. Not with your website.

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 10:03
The attacks I had in the astral realm last night were extreme. And they threatened me they were going to eff everything up in the physical realm for me. Well! They've already done that! I thwarted every astral attack I had last night, but experienced very disturbing imagery -- which is all such is.

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 10:32
Okay. Sorry about that, Bill; sorry about that, Journeyman, and everyone else. There must be a dreams thread on PA; and if so, I must have contributed a few entries.

These were not dreams.

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 10:46
http://radio.offplanetmedia.net/2017/02/26/triunity-series-with-dr-shmuel-asher-episode-7-dream-abductions-and-false-places/

Journeyman
22nd January 2022, 10:51
http://radio.offplanetmedia.net/2017/02/26/triunity-series-with-dr-shmuel-asher-episode-7-dream-abductions-and-false-places/

Not watched the video but the comment underneath kind of went back to the question of what the astral realm is:


He believes the soul is being extracted in the dream state and taken elsewhere. However, it’s my understanding that we exist in a simulated artificial illusion of reality, which is entirely mind based. Rather than extracting the soul, in fact, they manipulate the mind, installing their virtual reality scenarios. We’re going nowhere inside a vast mindscape. The only way out is within by projecting the intention to return to one’s true and authentic preexisting source.

Bill Ryan
22nd January 2022, 11:01
I am so sorry for saying that, Bill. But there is something seriously wrong. Not with your website.

Mod note from Bill:

Nothing was edited by myself or any of the mods — only by yourself. Here's a screenshot of the Post Edit History:

https://projectavalon.net/terragunn_post_edi_ history.gif

:focus:

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 20:06
http://radio.offplanetmedia.net/2017/02/26/triunity-series-with-dr-shmuel-asher-episode-7-dream-abductions-and-false-places/

Not watched the video but the comment underneath kind of went back to the question of what the astral realm is:


He believes the soul is being extracted in the dream state and taken elsewhere. However, it’s my understanding that we exist in a simulated artificial illusion of reality, which is entirely mind based. Rather than extracting the soul, in fact, they manipulate the mind, installing their virtual reality scenarios. We’re going nowhere inside a vast mindscape. The only way out is within by projecting the intention to return to one’s true and authentic preexisting source.

Construction of an augmented reality via dream state: ironic is Dr. Asher in this revelation, as we are currently in an augmented reality! Not surprising, but Steiner mentions – albeit all-too-briefly, and without further elucidation (my greatest annoyance with Steiner) – Lucifer doing the same: constructing an augmented reality.

Lucifer and its forces work through the astral body; they cannot penetrate nor have mastery over or of, the ‘I’ (Ego). But the Luciferic forces can influence the ‘I’ via the astral body, and Ahriman via elementals/material based electricity. The irony is: we would have not the ‘I’ but for Lucifer (and Ahriman).

Something to reflect upon?

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 20:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sEZmMeH96Q

terragunn
22nd January 2022, 20:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq7oGenbp2I

terragunn
25th January 2022, 06:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkaQUZFbJjE

terragunn
25th January 2022, 06:20
http://radio.offplanetmedia.net/2017/02/26/triunity-series-with-dr-shmuel-asher-episode-7-dream-abductions-and-false-places/

Not watched the video but the comment underneath kind of went back to the question of what the astral realm is:


He believes the soul is being extracted in the dream state and taken elsewhere. However, it’s my understanding that we exist in a simulated artificial illusion of reality, which is entirely mind based. Rather than extracting the soul, in fact, they manipulate the mind, installing their virtual reality scenarios. We’re going nowhere inside a vast mindscape. The only way out is within by projecting the intention to return to one’s true and authentic preexisting source.

Construction of an augmented reality via dream state: ironic is Dr. Asher in this revelation, as we are currently in an augmented reality! Not surprising, but Steiner mentions – albeit all-too-briefly, and without further elucidation (my greatest annoyance with Steiner) – Lucifer doing the same: constructing an augmented reality.

Lucifer and its forces work through the astral body; they cannot penetrate nor have mastery over or of, the ‘I’ (Ego). But the Luciferic forces can influence the ‘I’ via the astral body, and Ahriman via elementals/material based electricity. The irony is: we would have not the ‘I’ but for Lucifer (and Ahriman).

Something to reflect upon?

Noteworthy is Yahweh/Jehovah (Lord of Form/and of Time) was initially a Fire Spirit (Old Sun), before becoming Lord of Time. Both Ahriman and Lucifer were also.

terragunn
25th January 2022, 06:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMRZfDm9y8

terragunn
25th January 2022, 06:32
When blood arrived on earth, so did the animal, with the potential for such floating over...

terragunn
25th January 2022, 06:37
And with blood came 'The Ego'...

terragunn
25th January 2022, 07:14
The computation Matrix:

Polaris (portal)

Solar system, descent:

Saturn

Sun

Moon

Earth (Middle-earth)

Solar system, ascent:

Jupiter

Venus

Vulcan

terragunn
25th January 2022, 07:32
Earth stage: Saturn: Human/earth

Sun stage: Animal

Moon: Plant

Earth: Blood (Ego)/Mineral

terragunn
25th January 2022, 08:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiBbMo1_9pw

terragunn
25th January 2022, 08:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9591zjK_n08

terragunn
25th January 2022, 08:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNiie_zmSr8

terragunn
25th January 2022, 08:54
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terragunn
28th January 2022, 02:52
The 7 chakra system of the Human physical body (in its densest and most familiar form) is particularly interesting as it denotes a completed structure of the Human being via its bodily and energetic structural over/inner-lays. In Spiritual Science, conveyed is the Human physical body (as we experience such now, in this particular, post-Atlantian/antediluvian evolutionary/incarnational stage of the Human being and earth) has reached a state of perfection. Many spirit incarnates of the earth (whilst experiencing incarnation on earth, or in the ‘false heaven’/paradise matrix plane in the astral realm), would disagree that this is not so, as would I. And, of course, this all goes back to karma – the currency the Astrals (Luciferians) use to keep spirited incarnates in debt. But going beyond that…

Spiritual Science conveys to us that via the ‘I’ (Ego) – thanks Lucifer, Sophia, Prometheus ;o) – we can gain control of, and give perfection to, the astral body. An ironic thing, this, as it was through Lucifer (Sophia, Prometheus) we were given the ‘I’. Yahweh certainly did not want us to develop the ‘I’. And ‘I’ see why, now :o)

In regards to the 7 chakra system, such relates to the 7 earth/Human stages of evolution in the computation Matrix. The proceeding is the first four in ascent rather than descent:

Ancient Saturn (Rudiments of the Physical Body, Earth/Human) (Root Chakra)

Old Sun (Aetheric body, Glandular System, Animals) (Sacral Chakra)

Old Moon (Astral body, Nervous System, Plants) (Solar Plexus)

Earth (The ‘I’/Ego, Blood System, Mineral) (Heart) LION

terragunn
28th January 2022, 05:40
Nobody is effing paying attention. Why post more, right? I posted disinformation and misinformation.

terragunn
28th January 2022, 06:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSp1dM2Vj48

terragunn
28th January 2022, 06:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSp1dM2Vj48

You are experiencing such already.

terragunn
28th January 2022, 06:18
I am effing crying now; WHY? This story and beyond, is...

terragunn
28th January 2022, 06:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m67WeZgNz7I

terragunn
28th January 2022, 06:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoKz-ilaZiA

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Bill Ryan
28th January 2022, 12:12
This thread is closed, and terragunn, who was retired since 2016 but had asked to be reactivated 3 weeks ago, has been re-retired by the decision of the moderators. He is not well, and we sincerely wish him all the best.

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