How many dimensions are there?

[scotslad]

Kevin Moore has produced an excellent series of videos on YT about channeling where he interviews channelers from around the globe.

Interestingly, some channel an entity, a collective of many "light beings", and a common term used by many channelers is a "collective" or "council".

Their communications often reveal that source of the wisdom or on the 9th or higher "dimension."

Some channelers refer to the 10th, 11th even 12 dimensions, and many refer to the universe as infinite, always expanding, growing etc and we contribute as light beings ourselves having manifested in 3D to experience our projections in this realm, as grow and ascend into the 5th dimension.

One interpretation is that we each are creators of our own creation holographically creating by thought and through intention and desire project our own holograph into our own forcefield which projects back what we perceive with our 5 senses as our "reality" here on the 3rd dimension and the people, situations and events we experience are resonating on the same frequency/resonance as we currently are.

Now some channelers maintain that if you want better experiences, change your thoughts and desires, and raise your own vibration and frequency to draw other "constructs" currently ressonating on that "frequency". Change your thoughts, go within and go beyond the physical restraints of the 3D realm.

Yet many say we are already in the 5th dimension (or there is a shift happening now of humanity entering the 5th dimension here on earth at this time.)

I am just wondering what your belief or understanding is and how many realms and dimensions there are and the purpose of each? Do you have a graph/chart or video that can help explain for your fellow mortals/members?

Perhaps I am trying to over simplify a very complex construct, but if I wasnt ready to explore and raise my vibration, then I wouldn't be asking :)

What's your thoughts on our holographic universe and how many "dimensions" there are and their purpose?

Thank you.

[Mashika]

The idea of feeling of hope that we are on the "third dimension" and needs to "ascend to the next one" is a reworking and rewording and repurposing of the usual "heaven is above earth, and hell is below" completely broken ideology

You don't need to raise any vibration, that does nothing in the long term, it just confuses you much more once you return to your regular "vibration" and don't have answers to whatever you saw and then try to make it fit with your previous understandings of this 'reality'. It just takes you way much more away from the path that you can realize

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Think of it this way, if you could move sideways, instead of the "high/low" concept, where would you go?

The most important thing here is, that once you realize it, dimensions won't matter at all, we're all on them all at all times, at the same time. It's just we don't care about the other ones because we are so self entitled and egoistic that "this is who i am"


"I AM"

[Le Chat]

Do you have a graph/chart or video that can help explain for your fellow mortals/members?

Yes, that would interest me very much :bowing:

[ExomatrixTV]

For a cosmological model with d noncompact and D compact spatial dimensions and symmetry R1×Sd×SD, we calculate the entropy produced in d dimensions due to the compactification of D dimensions and show it too small to be of cosmological interest. Although insufficient entropy is produced in the model we study, the contraction of extra dimensions does lead to entropy production. We discuss modifications of our assumptions, including changing our condition for decoupling of the extra dimensions, which may lead to a large entropy production and change our conclusions. *

The representation of documents and queries as vectors in a high-dimensional space is well-established in information retrieval. The author proposes that the semantics of words and contexts in a text be represented as vectors. The dimensions of the space are words and the initial vectors are determined by the words occurring close to the entity to be represented, which implies that the space has several thousand dimensions (words). This makes the vector representations (which are dense) too cumbersome to use directly. Therefore, dimensionality reduction by means of a singular value decomposition is employed. Analyzing the structure of the vector representations and applies them to word sense disambiguation and thesaurus induction. *

String theories suggest particular forms for gravity interactions in higher dimensions. We consider an interesting class of gravity theories in more than four dimensions, clarify their geometric meaning and discuss their special properties. *

If you look at a 2D world and you are 3D >>> your dimension can partially intervene a 2D world without the 2D world knowing who you are ... this "overlapping of dimensions" may occur much more than you know from 4D or 5D in our 3D world! **

Are there "cosmic cycles" where our Sun is entering a zone where all particles & sub-particle properties are altered in such a way we can fuse or partially merge and interact with other dimensions more easily and via versa >>> when that happens Souls are given a choice to go to the next level of existence or stay behind? **


Temporary (local) "Merging of Dimensions" may already happening.

cheers,
John


* = that as me just trolling you all :blah: :der::caked: I could not help myself :eyebrows:
** = is more serious!

[ExomatrixTV]

We Haven’t Been Zapped Out Of Existence Yet, So Other Dimensions Are Probably Super Tiny

In theory, other dimensions aren’t big enough to form black holes and consume our universe or it would have happened already

https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/bX_ojWpGbkR2EQS04AbiR15SzoY=/1000x750/filters:no_upscale()/https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/filer/20/3e/203ec6e8-3f1d-4509-b546-04e7b021c6c9/nasa_image.jpg

The world as we know it has three dimensions of space—length, width and depth—and one dimension of time. But there’s the mind-bending possibility that many more dimensions exist out there. According to string theory, one of the leading physics model of the last half century, the universe operates with 10 dimensions (https://phys.org/news/2014-12-universe-dimensions.html). But that raises a big question: If there are 10 dimensions, then why don’t we experience all of them or haven’t detected them? Lisa Grossman at ScienceNews (https://www.sciencenews.org/article/universe-continued-existence-implies-extra-dimensions-tiny)reports that a new paper suggests an answer, showing that those dimensions are so tiny and so fleeting that we currently can’t detect them.

It’s difficult to completely explain the mathematics behind string theory without putting on a graduate seminar or two, but in essence dimensions five through ten have to do with possibility and include all possible futures and all possible pasts (https://bigthink.com/philip-perry/physicists-outline-10-different-dimensions-and-how-youd-experience-them) including realities with a totally different physics than those in our universe.

If two protons smash together at high enough speeds, they have the ability to create a tiny black hole that would exist for just a fraction of a second before disappearing, according to a new study, which hasn't been peer-reviewed, on the preprint server arXiv.org (https://arxiv.org/abs/1809.05089v1). The collision would open up a little bubble of interdimensional space where the laws of physics are different than ours, leading to an event known as vacuum decay. In quantum physics, vacuum decay implies that if the interdimensional space was large enough, we’d be toast. With enough gravity to interact with our world, the newly formed “Cosmic Death Bubble (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/we-now-know-when-cosmic-death-bubble-may-destroy-universe-180968687/)” would grow at the speed of light, rapidly change the physics of our universe, render it uninhabitable and effectively zap us out of existence.

“If you’re standing nearby when the bubble starts to expand, you don’t see it coming,” the study’s co-author, physicist Katie Mack of North Carolina State University, tells Grossman. “If it’s coming at you from below, your feet stop existing before your mind realizes that.”

Ultrahigh energy cosmic rays are bashing into each other all the time with enough energy to start this process. If extra dimensions were large enough to allow the death bubble to form, the researchers found, it would have happened thousands of times already. The fact that we still exist is one circumstantial piece of evidence that other dimensions are ultra-tiny. The team calculated that they must be smaller than 16 nanometers, too small for their gravity to influence much in our world and hundreds of times smaller than previous calculations, Grossman reports.

The new study comes on the tail of another study about extra dimensions published in the Journal of Cosmology and Astroparticle Physics (http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1475-7516/2018/07/048/meta)published in July. Mara Johnson-Groh at LiveScience (https://www.livescience.com/63666-gravitational-waves-reveal-no-extra-dimensions.html) reports that one of the big questions in physics is why the expansion of the universe is accelerating. One theory is that gravity is leaking out of our universe into other dimensions. To test this idea, researchers looked at data from recently discovered gravitational waves (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/detection-gravitational-waves-breakthrough-whats-next-180958511/). If our universe was leaking gravity through these other dimensions, the researchers reasoned, then the gravitational waves would be weaker than expected after traveling across the universe.

But the researchers found they didn’t lose any energy on their long journey, meaning other dimensions either don’t exist or are so tiny they don’t affect gravity very much, if at all.
“General relativity says gravity should be working in three dimensions, and [the results] show that that’s what we see,” physicist Kris Pardo of Princeton, lead author of the July study, tells Johnson-Groh. The latest study also concludes that the size of extra dimensions is so small that it precludes many theories about gravity leaking out of our universe.

Cosmologist Ian Moss of Newcastle University in England tells Grossman that the latest paper is thorough and he doesn’t see any glaring flaws, but there are still too many unknowns to say that the 16 nanometer limit is for certain.

(https://www.smithsonianmag.com/author/jason-daley/)
Jason Daley is a Madison, Wisconsin-based writer specializing in natural history, science, travel, and the environment. His work has appeared in Discover, Popular Science, Outside, Men’s Journal, and other magazines.


source (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/our-continued-existence-means-other-dimensions-are-probably-super-tiny-180970487/)

[ExomatrixTV]

11 Dimensions Explained (Eleven Dimensions) - What are Dimensions & How Many Dimensions are There:

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Some channelers refer to the 10th, 11th even 12 dimensions,

Tricky. Because what they're referring to here is quite different to dimensions. Some call them densities, describing a series of vibrational octaves of consciousness/reality that ascend upward so to speak, like layers of the spiritual, cosmological onion, before reaching Source. And it is held by many that the 12th density is source, or the Godhead.

That's very different to dimensions. If the facets of beingness are myriad, and beings in the multiverse uncountable, and the fact that consciousness creates reality, then the number of dimensional realities probably approaches infinity. Just this Earth-plane alone will have multiple dimensional iterations, i.e. alternate Earths. You also have alternate timelines to consider. What makes it even trickier is the multi-dimensional soul.

Basically, density is the energetic layer, or frequency of reality, and dimensions operate as 'aspects' of reality within a given density.

With our current awareness we are limited to the 3rd density, the single dimension within that density, and the linear time-line in which it operates.

[ExomatrixTV]

How The Universe Could Possibly Have More Dimensions (https://www.space.com/more-universe-dimensions-for-string-theory.html)



11 Dimensions Explained - Higher Dimensions Explained - All Dimensions Explained:

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The CIA On Time Travel And The Holographic Reality - The Gateway Process:

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[ExomatrixTV]

Radical Dimensions (https://aeon.co/essays/how-many-dimensions-are-there-and-what-do-they-do-to-reality)

Relativity says we live in four dimensions. String theory says it’s 10. What are ‘dimensions’ and how do they affect reality?


How Many Dimensions (https://interestingengineering.com/how-many-dimensions-does-our-universe-really-have) Does Our Universe Really Have?

Does our Universe have extra dimensions, and how do they influence our reality?


Could There Be More Than One Dimension of Time (https://interestingengineering.com/could-there-be-more-than-one-dimension-of-time)?

And what would that mean for the universe?





We Might Be Living in Higher Dimensions Unknowingly - Are We Living in Higher Dimensions- Hyperspace:

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[XelNaga]

Kevin Moore has produced an excellent series of videos on YT about channeling where he interviews channelers from around the globe.

Interestingly, some channel an entity, a collective of many "light beings", and a common term used by many channelers is a "collective" or "council".

Their communications often reveal that source of the wisdom or on the 9th or higher "dimension."

Some channelers refer to the 10th, 11th even 12 dimensions, and many refer to the universe as infinite, always expanding, growing etc and we contribute as light beings ourselves having manifested in 3D to experience our projections in this realm, as grow and ascend into the 5th dimension.

One interpretation is that we each are creators of our own creation holographically creating by thought and through intention and desire project our own holograph into our own forcefield which projects back what we perceive with our 5 senses as our "reality" here on the 3rd dimension and the people, situations and events we experience are resonating on the same frequency/resonance as we currently are.

Now some channelers maintain that if you want better experiences, change your thoughts and desires, and raise your own vibration and frequency to draw other "constructs" currently ressonating on that "frequency". Change your thoughts, go within and go beyond the physical restraints of the 3D realm.

Yet many say we are already in the 5th dimension (or there is a shift happening now of humanity entering the 5th dimension here on earth at this time.)

I am just wondering what your belief or understanding is and how many realms and dimensions there are and the purpose of each? Do you have a graph/chart or video that can help explain for your fellow mortals/members?

Perhaps I am trying to over simplify a very complex construct, but if I wasnt ready to explore and raise my vibration, then I wouldn't be asking :)

What's your thoughts on our holographic universe and how many "dimensions" there are and their purpose?

Thank you.

Hi scotslad,

I have no knowledge or personal experience to speak about how many dimensions are there, but I can only say that from all of the channeled material that I have read, and I have read a lot of them, for me The Ra Material (The Law of One) makes the most sense and gives me a feeling of being genuine and that it generaly speaks the truth.

Anyway, in it Ra says that there are infinite dimensions, but that every dimension consists of 7 densities, where 1st are minerals and plants, 2nd are trees and animals, we are 3rd and going into 4th. Beings from 4th density are partially material and partially etherical beings, 5th are etherical, in 6th social memory complexes are formed, and 7th is "god"-like.

The theory about 7 densities corresponds with our body, with the 7 main chakras, and it also corresponds with musical scale (there are 7 main tones in each octave, where 1st and 8th are the "same" tone).

[Arcturian108]

Thirty-two

[Wind]

The theory about 7 densities corresponds with our body, with the 7 main chakras, and it also corresponds with musical scale (there are 7 main tones in each octave, where 1st and 8th are the "same" tone).

Seven is a holy spiritual number for a reason, after the seventh density a new octave always starts.

People who understand musical notes and such might grasp these kind of things a bit better. Now we are on this level and eventually we won't be. This is a very dense level of existence here, but most people are used to it because they don't know or remember anything else. All life serves the evolution of consciousness and humanity is in the beginning stages of that really, even though this is the place where the most important choices are made due to "free will". This is the hardest school of them all. Humanity is severely lacking in wisdom and doesn't fully grasp the concept of divine love, but there is great potential. For both good and evil.

Also you don't just jump from this 3rd density to 5th, that's not how it happens.

Planet Earth is currently transitioning to the 4th one, but a good portion of humanity are still very much 3rd density beings.

The best thing you can do is to be "you" and be kind towards all life. Live in truth and integrity.

Indeed the Law of One has laid it out well. This is all just a game or a divine play.

https://i.redd.it/11reu1rzmdw61.png

[Lilyofthestars]

I have a lot of faith in the RA material as being totally accurate and I have my reasons.. Glad to see you post this, Wind! :heart:

I remember Don, the Ph.D physicist of the trio, really having trouble with the material himself due to always needing a formula to scientifically understand it. I always knew what RA was meaning when they explained this wasn't how it worked as it's like looking through a keyhole rather than learning how to transcend the attempted equation. The bird doesn't have perfect ability to maneuver any situation the wind throws his way due to a set of mathematical equations, he simply knows through his sheer intuition and consciousness unity with the elements around.

Having spent much time with beings on higher dimensions and having received many visits where the dimensions overlapped in live time directly in front of me, I'm not interested in understanding it logically or through a set of equations. They, those that exist in those states are so much more than a series of mathematical equations. It wasn't mathematical invention that brought them there.

RA didn't become a social memory complex residing in the sixth dimension through technological assistance, as they always reminded Don. They once had third dimensional incarnations on Venus prior to moving up through the dimensions. It's the natural evolution of the soul, but not all will arrive at the same time.

I realize many may disagree with the RA material and feel it could be a deception. I've read the series cover to cover at least three times and think it's some of the most trustworthy channeled material to date regarding guidance on the various dimensions. The biggest reason I trust it is having already come into contact with the information privately in my own states of channeling.

There's nothing quite like experiencing certain information before having ever read about it.. if it hadn't of been this way for me, I would have scoffed at and disregarded the material completely.

[yelik]

12 is a good number

What do we mean by a different dimension, is it just a different facet of the same coin depending on how we perceive reality and interact with it.

In reality our reality is largely (mass mind) controlled by what those with the most money and power want it to be

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks everyone for sharing in this discussion and this general topic has fascinated me for my whole life... However, it turned out that Descartes, (1596–1650) had introduced the 3D concept of X,Y,Z axes, (RE: axis), and later some people confused one point in space as 1D, and a foundation of dimensionality, until subjectivist philosophy has added all kinds of arbitrary ideas to that.

I'm functioning better in the last few years by taking on some practical ideas that 3D has dimensions of measurement, but 3D is just part of physicality, and of our bodily senses, some of which we are still learning to sense.

the next dimension or world is emotionality, or the emotional world. The further explanation maps out the huge range of emotions which were never mapped out for academia. So many emotions are involved and keeping mankind ignorant of this large range helps certain agendas.

Further study along this line explains that the astral world is part of the emotional world, and is apparently much like a house of mirrors for the less motivated souls who, for whatever reason tend to remain, somewhere in the vast emotional world, because it is a challenging world, whether in a body or without a body.

Motivation is in itself part of the emotional world or dimensions. Without the emotional dimension, human life would be a dull droid like existence, without inspiration or flare, without fun or attractions per se. Emotionality is explained as the key development mankind should master in our era. Electronic robots are absent of organs to handle emotionality as does a true individual self, or being. Robots really just do physical things, according to inputs and outputs, depending on their budgets.

The next higher dimension going up is mentality. This higher world of ideas is said to actually supply the germ or inspiration for practical things or forms. Historically, Plato's world of ideas, (IE: Platon's), begins the explanation of this world, which today is developed by highly mental-ized thinkers, some scientists, some researchers, some artists, some thinkers, some coders, some magicians, etc...

The "dark powers" who include some big mentalist types, black magicians, have actually made big efforts to foil this world of ideas, which adds to mankind's burdens, due to the fake news, fake emotions, fake truths, and even the ruination of the word 'mental', by instilling the fallacy that the definition is mental illness! ("Like so and so is mental".) We also have white magic which shines a light for those with eyes to see, or those reaping higher sowing from past lives and sowing which is done in this life.

Here is possibly a discernible threshold for mankind's currently accessible dimensions or worlds, because mankind is restricted by his bodily organs, which natural evolution provided us with, and if handled well, our full provision of organs can open up the much vaster range of these three dimensions or worlds, (so to speak). We don't have to fly to the moon, or see the astral world as something more than it really is. I really got taken for a ride there once, but today I'm working harder on my mentality and perceptions to get all these things working better to build that antahkarana, (Sanskrit word implying a self built bridge of self development beyond 3D, etc..)



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[Bo Atkinson]

I got a lot from Sanskrit connected ideas and from a variety of sources, throughout 50 years of searching, (obviously mostly without the www). I'm cross examining all three worlds in this integrative post.

At 11 minutes in the vid above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117480-How-many-dimensions-are-there&p=1475193&viewfull=1#post1475193), the narrator refers to higher dimensions simply consisting of more geometric points or lines or faces, and then goes on with arbitrary assertions and suppositions.

By major contrast, the Ra Material gives some remarkable perspectives, gathering up some sentient experiences, reported here and there. Some of it is right on like "service to others", which rephrases a better religious ideal, (and some other parroting given without citations for seekers to broaden knowledge upon particular assertions).

However the "service to self" concept as a karmic cheat imposes huge risks about what to expect from living a human life, like being a perpetrator of foul agendas or mind control or general deceptions...The bad lodges likely calculate they can even get others to do "Manchurian Candidate" stuff. Keeping a sharp eye on what we commit to do avoids this kind of manipulation.

Service-to-self or deceiving others generally challenges the laws of causes and effects, or sowing and reaping, which sounds like the black magician's lodge is looking around for astral and physical recruits, which can involve amazing illusions with surreal or dreamy visions, as ever I saw, which was connected to further enticements, (of their recruitment in general).

This stuff took years to sort out, because I had to go on instinct and false readings, with such limited information. Scrapes and bruises were bad enough. The emotional world is so powerful energetically, it knocked me clear off of my feat in different ways.

Finally I was able to use the experiences for reference points, to understand how some parts of this world function, like subjective reality in contrast to objective reality and how it is so important not to infringe on the rights of others.The emotional world too easily confuses objective and subjective experiences, like slight of hand.

[Mashika]

I want to ask something here

First: Because i can see a lot of discussion continues around the idea of multiple universes, is it 12, 13? 11? 42? 32?
Second: Because everything has to be "aligned" somehow to previous beliefs or work people did. "we build on top" and so on

But, who said that all that stuff has to follow regular human rules? 11, 12, 42, 32, 100,000 universes or dimensions?

Why are you applying human physical logic to this entire thing? Why do people think there is a limited amount of other dimensions? then talk about it as a fact of some kind? Everyone is an expert at how many there are, but they can't prove anything they said, and even when using human science it's still impossible to verify at this point

Here's something to consider

There is one single dimension, and then, it becomes unstable sometimes, and it causes waves of a sort that cause variations in the reality, so you actually still exist on the same dimension you are, but there, for a small amount of time, you kind of replicate into a variation that only lasts for a bit and then goes away, just because, no explanation needed. Then it all comes back to you and you may even have a deja vu or a dream about it. It's you all the time, the other part was just a temporary glitch

You did not change your frequency, the universe did, you got out of sync for a bit then everything returned back to normal. In universal terms, a second could mean a million years, we don't control that, and as said before. Why are we trying to figure those things out using human abstractions and understandings? That's why we never get anywhere, we think 'outside the box' but never leave the inside of the box?

Think of a theory that allows to explain the following:

1. I was me one millisecond ago
2. A variation happened in which i was still me but got 'refactored' into a second me
3. The second me had a lifetime of experiences in that millisecond, completely separate from my own
4. I did not know about it at all
5. The secondary variation of reality destroyed itself after that millisecond
6. All that energy got sent back to myself and everyone else on this reality
7. I had a dream or other kind of experience where i 'remembered' or 'felt' as if something had happened before
8. It was the integration of the variation into my own energy
9. Everyone has a separate energy frequency, like a footprint, energies moving around can't be shared easily so they tend to gather around compatible energies, just like water and oil do
10. All of this happens all the time, every single day, multiple times per day

At any point, there could be 100,000,000 universes all at the same time, with the same people and same reality, but variating in one way or another, then one millisecond later there could only be 10, then 40, then 400, then a million. Who is setting up those rules to say "there are 11"? That's just BS

Until people starts thinking dynamically, and rewriting by the second their thinking about reality, and not trying to enforce a fixed amount of this or that, for fear of losing control of the understanding, there will never be any true advance on this area

You may all go in peace now, the random rant has ended

/rant

[terragunn]

My Ahrimanic double disagrees with you; but 'I' do.

[Mashika]

My Ahrimanic double disagrees with you; but 'I' do.

That's why you are still wondering and pondering non stop

What truth do you have to share, that you did not find through a video or someone else's words?

The question is simple:

How much have you figured yourself out, vs how much you have 'learned' through watching other people's videos and writings? How much is your own knowledge and how much have you been lead by now, because "it made sense"

Speak up

[Bill Ryan]

My Ahrimanic double disagrees with you; but 'I' do.

That's why you are still wondering and pondering non stop

What truth do you have to share, that you did not find through a video or someone else's words?

Speak upIt's a silly discussion. :) I wonder if (in Russian culture!) you're familiar with How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F)

It was a serious (but silly!) discussion back in the 17th century. Now, it's used as an English-language idiom to describe a pointless and trivial debate.

[Mashika]

My Ahrimanic double disagrees with you; but 'I' do.

That's why you are still wondering and pondering non stop

What truth do you have to share, that you did not find through a video or someone else's words?

Speak upIt's a silly discussion. :) I wonder if (in Russian culture!) you're familiar with How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin%3F)

It was a serious (but silly!) discussion back in the 17th century. Now, it's used as an English-language idiom to describe a pointless and trivial debate.

I did know (about the angels dancing on the hear of a pin), and most people do, but i did not get that post at all :)

[Helvetic]

13 Dimensions.

[scotslad]

I've always been intrigued by 3 images - Metatron's cube, the tree of life and the flower of life and what they actually reveal/represent about the the dimensions, densities of the universe and energy points of the human body. Is there more to this than meets the eye and a lot more to opening (or connecting) one's mind and heart (and other chakras) revealing how to access different and realms?

https://i.etsystatic.com/22354062/r/il/a7089c/2249718547/il_794xN.2249718547_3q0e.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/T37A96/kabbalah-tree-of-life-alchemy-jewish-hebrew-numerology-spiritual-illustration-T37A96.jpg

https://www.ancient-symbols.com/images/wp-image-library/500/flower-of-life5.jpg?ezimgfmt=ng%3Awebp%2Fngcb1%2Frs%3Adevice%2Frscb1-1

Do Mandelas serve a similar purpose? In helping people to "go inwards" and hold their focus to open up and access new realms?

https://i.shgcdn.com/4346ee67-bc82-4914-9313-1e337399e517/-/stretch/off/-/resize/3000x/-/quality/lighter/

Curious.

[Merkaba360]

The idea of feeling of hope that we are on the "third dimension" and needs to "ascend to the next one" is a reworking and rewording and repurposing of the usual "heaven is above earth, and hell is below" completely broken ideology

You don't need to raise any vibration, that does nothing in the long term, it just confuses you much more once you return to your regular "vibration" and don't have answers to whatever you saw and then try to make it fit with your previous understandings of this 'reality'. It just takes you way much more away from the path that you can realize

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Think of it this way, if you could move sideways, instead of the "high/low" concept, where would you go?

The most important thing here is, that once you realize it, dimensions won't matter at all, we're all on them all at all times, at the same time. It's just we don't care about the other ones because we are so self entitled and egoistic that "this is who i am"


"I AM"

I am not sure exactly what you mean, but I don't really think of it in this way. Even though im partially responding to your response, this is my own answer to the OP question as well. So, sorry if it seems i'm rambling a lot, as answering you leads me into my long answer lol. In other words, this question is like the question, "What is the purpose of life." There is not one clear answer. there are many ways to look at it to get a deeper understanding.

Direction is conventional to orientation. So, we have called the sky up. If I tried to live my life upside down, not sure if that would ever make as much sense or not. lol

So, the self contained, self-referential universe is a sphere. Think of that like 0. Then think of life as 0 dividing itself into 1 + -1. The sphere is 0 and it divides into a torus (+1) and hyperbaloid (-1) the negative image of a torus. that is the holy trinity and the ALL there is or ever can be.

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What you perceive inside your reality, inside the torus/apple/merkaba is a holographic projection based on the assemblage point. That is where perception is assembled and it is on the 2D surface of the torus (or the hyperbaloid) behind us.

Shifting that assemblage point to a lower position is how dark sorcerers explore underworld realities (Hell). So, in one sense there are no dimensions. you can go to any realm, but its all projected in the same Torus. There is nowhere to go lol.

Shifting the assemblage point up will bring you to 'higher' lighter worlds or heavans. It will be experienced more like dreams of higher frequencies. So, the way it is all organized and structured, is not just arbitrary from my conclusions. It is not random that the heavans are seen as being in the sky. The geometry, the creation myths, the mechanics of life , its all 'perfect'.

One must be a miser with energy in order to build up enough and raise their kundalini in order to move the assemblage point and view different coherent realities within their torus. You would then be free to go to heavan or hell. lol the kundalini is the spiraling DNA-like energy of the hyperbaloid in the center of the torus.

the hyperbaloid is Counterspace (the negative image of the torus that we outwardly perceive. nikoa tesla called it the Ether. And it is pure potency/power. By storing our energy, we are building up that power within. Wasting our energy is dissipating the energy we stored within in counterspace and spending on our space/time outward game within the torus. the earthly physical reality or taurus/torus. The torus is cyclical like a battery circuit. We store enough energy, we build up counterspace potential, and then we can perceive any reality of various frequencies. denser, more 'hellish' frequencies are 'lower' given the orientation we have.

So, we can talk about geometric dimensions of the torus which is 0 - 3 dimensions. Maybe one could argue a 4th dimension, but i wont get into that.

But what we each perceive in our own little torus bubbles is not off in other dimensions. Its just different kinds of experiential 'worlds' that differ based on their frequencies. Just like those weird dreams that you can do things that are impossible at this frequency. That is why they refer to this as densities as some have mentioned in this thread. Oh and also, the torus is self-contained, it wraps back on itself, there is no getting outside of it lol.

It IS required to store energy, charge up counterspace within us in order to break the perception barrier and perceive worlds that are operating at higher frequencies/densities. This is a bit like traveling, where not everything works exactly like it does at our frequency. So, we learn and gain more perspective of how the big picture operates and the nuances of each frequency level. It just depends on how evolved someone is. Most humans on this planet are on the path that only needs to be concerned about the frequency realm we are operating in currently. But for spiritually motivated people, this is not the case anymore or soon not need to be the case.

So, the OP is really asking about how many frequency densities there are. this is like asking how many colors there are. From 1 view, there is just one, white. or 3, the 3 primary colors to create all infinite colors. Or 7 or infinity.

I think the answer to this is that it is 1 continuum all the way up and down the frequency spectrum of the universe. however, in sound and light we have 7 harmonic frequencies, like the musical scale. Those would be more beautiful sounds. So, It would make sense for life to gravitate toward certain harmonic frequency realms of experience. So, this 7 density thing would make sense. the kabbalistic tree of life has 10 sephiroth and 7 levels, so this might have something to do with the differing views of 7 dimensions/densities vs 10. Maybe its possible to cut up the continuous spectrum (which is 1 or infinite densities) differently into 3, 7, 10, 12 densities and the models would vary , yet still make sense explaining the spectrum of life existing throughout it.

Mathematically, you might be able to see now that, 0, 1, 8 and infinity are all essentially the same thing. 7/8 are that cyclical harmonic cycle that make up inifinty. 8 and infinity use the same symbol essentially. And 0 is also a cyclical symbol.

The Fibonacci sequence. 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21.

Adding up the numbers , we get 1, 2, 4, 7, 12, 20, 33, 54.

I would bet that we can make good models for 7 densities (Ra Material, harmonic spectrum), or 12 (astrology cycle of life), or 33 (33 levels of freemasonry, or the 33 bones to rise up the vertebrae/kundalini. Jacobs ladder) because of the fibonacci sequence.

[Mike Gorman]

As Arthur Young says: People speak about escaping to the 5th dimension, or something like this and the point is, we don't want more dimensions because dimensions are degrees of constraint, dimensions are the reason I am stuck in this chair!
When people speak about there being multiple, and additional dimensions I think this is really a failure to understand what dimensions truly are, what they are speaking about are additional realms, new territories of reality, in truth 'Light' is the ultimate freedom; Arthur Young reveals the true nature of Light as being the creative origin of all things, from 'pair creation' a photon can create either positive, or negative particle, we are all children of the light, in fact the entire universe is the created from light.
We do not need complexities of stacked dimensions to account for the unfolding of reality.

This 1st video presents the building blocks for Arthur Young's theory of process, a truly remarkable theory which blows Darwin's propositions completely away; if you have the patience, and humility to listen to someone else, Arthur Young mentions this folly of proposing additional dimensions to try to account for different realms towards the end of the video - prior to this he details the building blocks of creation, and reality itself, and introduces the idea of 'Light' being the primary creator.
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