Unique herbal recipes for Covid Variants, Vax Shedding, and the Vaccinated - plus a WEE story/rant included.

[Lilyofthestars]

Now,

This is NOT a "Cure" post or anything of the sort. So, for the glorious FDA's sake and by the law, I will state for the record that these recipes I am about to provide do not "CURE" anything (even if it does.. I mean, that would be okay with you, right?) :Angel:

A little background information:
Until this last fall, I successfully ran an apothecary for five years until certain life events forced me to shut down the shop. I do not hold fancy titles or qualifications, which I am actually relieved about. I feel it is my lack of such earthly titles that has strengthened my relationship to the universe and its guidance of my soul's journey. I am unashamed of this.

As a self-taught herbalist I have spent over ten years in intensive private study/practice and have always worked closely with celestial guidance, visionary states, and intuition to guide my process. The first visionary experience I had regarding healing was when a close friend was battling cancer in 2010. It would be the experience that set me off on a life long passion for working with plant medicine. A vision was given of a large burning fire, seated just at the top of a high flight of stairs suspended in space. Climbing the stairs I nervously reached the top. A tall, slender man in an off-white robe was standing next to it. Shocked at where I had just arrived, I inquired about what we were doing there. He gestured to the fire and requested I put my hand inside of it. When you're floating in space and a kind person in a robe asks you to reach inside of a fire, well, you just do it! I reached inside, and pulled out a piece of paper. On the paper was a long list of plants/herbs of which I had never heard of before. Plants I had no exposure to as my journey with herbs had not yet begun. I woke up remembering every plant on the long list. Absolutely shocked to find many of them were indeed real names, I sourced all of them out and began serving an herbal concoction of the ingredients to my friend. Over time, the tumors shrunk and he had more energy than he had had in months. Sadly, the medical establishment got to him and his family bullied him into getting Chemotherapy/Radiation. He later died from the side effects of Chemotherapy. This experience kicked off what would be another ten years of celestial guidance on various forms of energy healing and plant assistance.

I do not believe in the sway "snake hold" pharmaceutical companies hold over the public, or even those who dished out a lot of resources for the right "naturopathic" certifications and degrees, whom too hold sway over the public. What I do hold in my heart and soul is the reality that medicinal plant knowledge and wisdom is universal, ancient, and has been exercised by regular "laymen" human beings for thousands of years. Any claim to elitism on the topic is an illusion created by self-righteous individuals who are unwilling to admit such plant knowledge belongs to the whole of the human race. Capitalism at its finest. I simply am incapable of existing on this level and have never been good at marketing myself or my wisdom as a product to be put on the shelves.

Throughout human history, the indigenous of all continents passed down such plant/earth wisdom and knowledge freely to every member of their society, knowing that such information was to be given freely to all. After all, as the Earth provides countless resources of sustenance to all that live upon her, as we should give freely to one another. And so it should be today. First world countries have lost touch with their ancient histories that were so deeply interwoven with plant knowledge and practice. No human being has the right to place themselves above others, lecturing that they alone have the right to administer plant medicine guidance. Lovely legalism continues to try to put a block to this, often with poor arguments as their justification.

And so, I offer this freely because we do not exist in this universe to turn everything into profit, capitalization, and money. These recipes are an offering of love to the community. No strings attached. No fancy links to click asking for your money.

Now, in relation to Covid-19/Vaccination hardships which are taking a huge toll on our bodies for those who have been exposed.. As an unvaccinated human, I genuinely believe Vaccine Shedding is a thing. Like many here, I will go down refusing the jab until the very bitter end. Many of us know at the deepest core of our being what this is all about - so I won't even begin to go into how The Great Reset is blatantly and obviously 100% connected to the deliberate unleashing of this monster.

In the last 6 months or so, I have been hard at work curbing personal symptoms that seem to only appear when I'm around the Vaccinated for prolonged periods. Also symptoms from the multitude of "variants" multiple times. That being said, these recipes are not just for the Unvaccinated, but our Vaccinated brothers/sisters too.

Combined with yoga stretches (easy for all), deep breathing techniques, plenty of walks in the forest, proper diet (high in vegetables, fruits, legumes, and nuts/seeds), as well as good exercise.. This is going to be more valuable to you than a whole score of other remedies. The Vax included.

If you are experiencing intense lung/heart issues like I have, heart palpitations, enlarged/inflamed heart, lung congestion, breathing problems, sore throat, flu symptoms, period irregularities, and.. well the list could go on forever, couldn't it? The following recipes will help curb the symptoms.

The following recipes are for making large amounts of the concoction, and the directions are a little more specific (which will be detailed below) than just brewing regular tea. When dealing with all the headache-causing commercialism of the herbal industry, it is common to find low quality herbs from larger than life farms/establishments. I would recommend trying to find local small herbal sources due to the love/care that is given to the plants on an individual basis. If you can't find that, try Pacific Botanicals (https://www.pacificbotanicals.com/store/Herbs-Spices.html) located in Grants Pass, Oregon. All of their herbs may be bought by the pound only online, as they grow most of their own plant matter. The quality is unmatched and its what I've relied on since not being able to grow my own in recent years.

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This first recipe I have intuitively put together is one that works for the whole HEART and all symptoms of the heart. It will also be therapeutic for muscle twitching, runny nose, and general cold symptoms. It has completely reversed my heart-related issues which I believe came from Vaccine shedding. Namely palpitations, arrhythmia, and myocarditis.

Angela's Heart Ease Recipe

6 cups of Spring Water (Preferred, if you can't acquire this then filtered or purified will do)

1 tablespoon of Elderflowers, Fresh or dried

1 tablespoon of Lavender Buds, Fresh or dried

1 tablespoon Lemon Balm, Fresh or dried

1 tablespoon of Hawthorn Leaf and Flower, fresh or dried

1 teaspoon of Hawthorn Berries, fresh or dried

1 tablespoon of Rose Hips, fresh or dried

1 teaspoon of Yarrow flowers, fresh or dried

1 tablespoon of White Willow Bark, Dried

These amounts may be lessened if you're only brewing by the cup. If you need guidance for this let me know. Place the plant matter in hot water that is just under boiling point - never boil these herbs. Cover the pot when the steam begins to rise. Just before boiling point remove from the burner - set aside. Leave the hot concoction infusing for 20 minutes. Put the pot back on the burner on low to medium. Re-heat to just hot enough (never boiling), and strain into glass jars for keeping.

Serve 1-2 heated cups with a few teaspoons of honey to your liking. Choose a healthy sweetener alternative and avoid white sugar. Coconut sugar, agave, Xylitol, Genuine Maple, or other would suffice. No chemical sugars, of course. ;) Drink two-three times a day until symptoms improve.

Other useful guidance: Other actions I had to take to curb symptoms of a poisoned Covid-Heart was to AVOID screen time as much as possible. I'm talking 4 days straight if necessary. That means put your cell phone down, read a book instead.. Avoid TV, the internet, and even avoid reading the news if at all possible. You need 100% of your focus/clarity AND peace to do this when battling severe Covid symptoms. What I'm talking about here could save you a hospital visit. Avoiding news during this period of rest/healing is important as the news will only create anxiety which will spike your heart issues. This is the opposite of what you're trying to accomplish here. Consciousness quite literally produces physical manifestations on a moment to moment basis - every thought and feeling directly contributes to whether or not we can muster up enough purity/light within our souls to enhance the innate ability to channel the healing forces of light.

During sipping sessions, sit Indian style and meditate on the light, envisioning it spiraling down through the top of your head, flowing into your heart, and further down to your feet. These visualization techniques actually produce the real effects of assisting your healing process. Practice deep breathing techniques during your visualization. Avoid obnoxious music and try to stick to soothing meditation music such as South American flutes, Tibetan bells, and so on. Later after your tea sessions, take moderate walks in the woods (30 minutes or so). I realize it can be scary to "walk" when having heart issues, but its necessary to help work the formula through your body's system. Let the trees help be a part of your healing process, as well. Breathe their prana in deeply as you walk gently through the forest. Choose a path that isn't too steep, and fairly level.

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As for my second recipe, - this is my long time recipe for LUNG pain, lung congestion, and all associated lung problems. It has also quickly turned around intense fevers, debilitating fatigue, muscle aches, and in general severe flu like symptoms. While the first recipe is more formulated for assisting the Heart in its healing, this one will be useful for the heart too.

Angela's Lung & General Flu Symptom Remedy

6 cups of Spring water

3-4 tablespoons of Hibiscus Flowers, fresh or dried

1 teaspoon of Angelica Root (Note: don't forget this is teaspoon sized and not tablespoon sized. Angelica is the one herb here which must be used with care and caution. The ratio to water here is suitable/safe. Occasionally when you're making this recipe you may omit Angelica every other time as it can be quite detoxing and sometimes cause "detox symptoms" for a short period. This recipe is very potent without it, however with it the lungs will eradicate deposits of congestion that are hard to remove. Concrete like yellow deposits in the lungs that are akin to a semi-hardened glue are a common battle with Covid sufferers)

1 tablespoon of White Willow Bark, dried

1 teaspoon of Echinacea, leaf/stem flower, fresh or dried

1 teaspoon of Tusli (Holy Basil - any kind), dried or fresh

1 tablespoon of Marshmallow Root, shredded or sliced/dried

1 teaspoon of Slippery Elm Bark, powdered or shredded/dried

1 teaspoon of Dandelion Root, any form will do

1 tablespoon of Cinnamon Bark, broken up into chips. It MUST be the bark.

1/2 teaspoon of Nettle Root, dried

As before, These amounts may be lessened if you're only brewing by the cup.
Directions from before (copy and pasted): Place the plant matter in hot spring water that is just under boiling point - never boil these herbs. Cover the pot when the steam begins to rise. Just before boiling point remove from the burner - set aside. Leave the hot concoction infusing for 20 minutes. Put the pot back on the burner on low to medium. Re-heat to just hot enough (never boiling), and strain into glass jars for keeping. Occasionally I deliberately leave the infusion out over night to seep for 12 hours, then proceed with the straining/bottling. This is just as well and will make for a very powerful formula, and yes, its safe.

Serve 1-2 heated cups with a few teaspoons of honey to your liking. Choose a healthy sweetener alternative and avoid white sugar. Coconut sugar, agave, Xylitol, Genuine Maple, or other would suffice. No chemical sugars, of course. ;) Drink two-three times a day until symptoms improve.


Blessings to all.:flower:

[Billy Vasiliadis]

That was beautiful, thank you Lilyofthestars for sharing. I have been thinking a lot about the healing energies and abilities of Nature lately, and how we in our industrialized societies have lost touch with that power. This (https://www.amazon.com/Be-Healed-Earth-Warren-Grossman/dp/1583227490) is one of my favourite books on the healing power of Nature, and it also describes some very simple ways of connecting with this power to heal (I.e. standing on the Earth with the attention placed on the bottom of the feet).

[Violet3]

Hi Lilyofthestars
great to hear about your journey. I totally agree with you about the problems with modern medicine, big pharma, and even naturopathic approaches. I trained as a naturopath many years ago now, attracted to parts of the training then available including things like chirology and vivaxis. Then the school took all the material out that was truly alternative, in order to be more 'scientifically credible' and to obtain government funding. I persisted in the course for 3 years but gave up finally. Went to work in a refuge instead. But I did start treating myself and sometimes friends with herbs and some simple homoeopathic remedies. I have been using essential oils much more intensively in the last 6 months.
I should not be too critical- there are certainly some good naturopaths around, but the cost of treatment is fairly prohibitive for many people, even if they had an inclination to try it. The prescription drug approach seems superficially so much easier and cheaper if you don't take into account the long term cost to wellness.
Anyway, thankyou so much for your recipes- they look excellent!
:flower:

[Mike]

Hi Angela, thanks for sharing your recipes. Your attitude about herbs and herbal formulas and sharing freely is very refreshing. I've suffered for quite some time with heart issues, and one thing I would absolutely love to do one day is start a non-profit that gets herbal remedies and nutritional supplements into the hands of people who need but cannot afford them.

I was lucky: when I went down I had the right people show up in my life at just the right time to support me during my heart troubles. Some aren't so lucky. I can never possibly repay the favor in kind..but what I'd like to do, in their honor, is help others in the same selfless way they helped me. If they hadn't helped me, I'd surely be dead. Long story, but I owe that favor to somebody(s).

I've tried numerous heart formulas and supplements. Herbs are wonderful and a blessing for many, but they didn't help me too much. My issue is a mitochondrial one, and I've yet to find an herb (outside of pau d'arco) that actively energizes the mitochondria. I've made my own herbal tinctures (using herbs from Pacific Botanicals) and also used powerful tinctures from Dr Richard Schulze but didn't get the result I'd hoped for. I respond better to things like coq10, carnitine, magnesium, and ribose powder. They are absolute miracle workers for the heart. Saved my life. Have you ever tried them? People on heart transplant lists heal themselves on these nutrients.

Your heart recipe intrigues me because it's kind of novel. Hawthorn is in nearly all herbal heart formulas, but the others are a little unorthodox. I like that! And of course it's the synergy that makes the magic possible, isn't it? And I prefer the idea of a powerful tea over a tincture anyway. So I just may give that a shot. Thanks:flower:

[mizo]

I'm on my 3rd week with 'Omicron' issues-my racing heart, congested lungs and diaphragm muscle spasm from excessive coughing is one the debilitating ailments I suffering from atm.
I have sent this list to my wife as she also practices with 'natural medicines'.
I think we have most of those ingredients, also in tea form - maybe she can make a super -brew of tea?

Thank you for sharing your recipes!

[Pam]

There is a very holistic approach with the variety of herbs that you are using Lily, which is wonderful. One thing I have come to notice is that in the world of birds and animals, if a plant is a very popular food source that is a huge plus. I notice you have nettles in you recipe. This year I grew a small patch dedicated to nettles for their anti inflammatory properties and the birds absolutely love nettles. I actually grew it to diced it and give to my dog for arthritis tendencies. Just checked it out and here is a list of the wonderful properties of the humble nettle which grows everywhere in my neck of the woodsl.Many of you would be able to find dandelion root out in your yards or fields.




Actions: Adaptogen, alterative, anti-tumor, anti-spasmodic, astringent, counterirritant (mucous membranes), diuretic, emmenagogue, expectorant, galactagogue, hemostatic, hypotensive, nutritive, trophorestorative (kidney/adrenal), vermifuge

Taste: Bitter, salty

Plant Uses: Allergies, arthritis, asthma, blood deficiency, eczema, fatigue, hypothyroidism, menstrual cramps, seasonal allergies, sluggish metabolism, urinary tract infections, weak hair/teeth/bones

Plant Preparations: Food, freeze-dried, juice, nourishing herbal infusions, tea, leaf tincture, seed tincture, seed wine, dried seeds, root tincture, pills, tablets, cream

https://thegrownetwork.com/stinging-nettle-benefits-uses/

So I see a wonderful combination of benefits here in your recipes that I find very exciting. The fact that you mentioned staying away from technology and finding calmness in a book is a beautiful a powerful additive to your recommendations.

[Spiral]

Wonderful recipes & a beautiful intro ( I know it's already been said but I'm seconding that :nod:)

Does anyone know a good supplier in the UK for such herbs (some not being indigenous) ?

We've been using a concoction of pine needles ( they aren't toxic over here like they are in the US) & nettles, only we use near to boiling water from the kettle into a thermos flask which keeps it at temp for a long time & helps get the goodies out of the pine needles.

[Pam]

I'm on my 3rd week with 'Omicron' issues-my racing heart, congested lungs and diaphragm muscle spasm from excessive coughing is one the debilitating ailments I suffering from atm.
I have sent this list to my wife as she also practices with 'natural medicines'.
I think we have most of those ingredients, also in tea form - maybe she can make a super -brew of tea?

Thank you for sharing your recipes!

mizo, I am so sorry you have to go through this. Remember to practice your deep breathing as best you can. If weather permits a bit of fresh air as well. It is so easy to not want to take full breaths because of the coughing and pain it can end up causing to the lungs and ribs but it is so very important. Don't mean to be a nag, just want you to get better. Lots of fresh, good old water too. I'm so glad you have a helpful wife to go out and get you supplies!!!

[heretogrow]

I am so happy to meet you, lilyofthestars, and I am so excited about this thread. Just today, enjoying a snow storm, I decided to get out my notebook and start planning what herbs I would grow this year. Imagine my happy surprise when I stumbled upon your posts about how to cure the ills of Covid and shedding with herbal magic! I am all in. Some of the herbs you listed are indigenous to my area, but please tell me where do I get cinnamon bark? We have a spring that bubbles up on our property but some years it runs dry. Is well water ok to use? It is awesome fresh water. I am so looking forward to your input and the posts of you and other members. Thank you for joining Avalon and sharing your gifts and wisdom with us. You will love this community! Welcome to the best forum you will ever find!

[Lilyofthestars]

Hi Angela, thanks for sharing your recipes. Your attitude about herbs and herbal formulas and sharing freely is very refreshing. I've suffered for quite some time with heart issues, and one thing I would absolutely love to do one day is start a non-profit that gets herbal remedies and nutritional supplements into the hands of people who need but cannot afford them.

I was lucky: when I went down I had the right people show up in my life at just the right time to support me during my heart troubles. Some aren't so lucky. I can never possibly repay the favor in kind..but what I'd like to do, in their honor, is help others in the same selfless way they helped me. If they hadn't helped me, I'd surely be dead. Long story, but I owe that favor to somebody(s).

I've tried numerous heart formulas and supplements. Herbs are wonderful and a blessing for many, but they didn't help me too much. My issue is a mitochondrial one, and I've yet to find an herb (outside of pau d'arco) that actively energizes the mitochondria. I've made my own herbal tinctures (using herbs from Pacific Botanicals) and also used powerful tinctures from Dr Richard Schulze but didn't get the result I'd hoped for. I respond better to things like coq10, carnitine, magnesium, and ribose powder. They are absolute miracle workers for the heart. Saved my life. Have you ever tried them? People on heart transplant lists heal themselves on these nutrients.

Your heart recipe intrigues me because it's kind of novel. Hawthorn is in nearly all herbal heart formulas, but the others are a little unorthodox. I like that! And of course it's the synergy that makes the magic possible, isn't it? And I prefer the idea of a powerful tea over a tincture anyway. So I just may give that a shot. Thanks:flower:

Mike, loved your response here. Sorry for the late response! Yes, I've used all of those things, too! I had a terrifying heart episode that lasted almost a week which I feel reasonably sure came from Vaccine shedding or Covid itself. I'm fairly young and in shape, so it just doesn't add up. Hiking is a daily part of my life and I do not think there are any underlying conditions with my heart that would have caused this. I could literally "feel" some kind of foreign thing in me, like an alien invader. No flu or cold has ever done this to me. I'm very Intune with my body, and I feel that it alerts me to what the true cause is psychically. There is no doubt it was Covid or Vaccine shedding caused. I am leaning more towards Vaccine shedding at this point. You can read about what I went through Here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117086-Vaxx-Shedding-how-would-you-know-you-are-affected-by-it&p=1475032#post1475032).

The strange thing is, normally Magnesium does the trick whenever I feel heart related anything anomalies. Its such an amazing supplement for the heart. In this case, Magnesium was useless. As was Carnitine and L-Arginine (a very good supplement which complements L-Carintine's effectiveness). I have never experienced those products failing in their therapeutic value to the system. I have quite the little alternative pharmacy built up, and out of sheer desperation I looked into the cosmic field and simply asked what I should put together from my herb inventory. As you said, it is truly about the synergy aspect and combination of herbs. There is no doubt a magical element where certain frequencies mingle with other frequencies, creating a certain spark. This is why I always rely on celestial guidance instead of logic. The ability to receive information from the "field" came as a gift from a very young age.

The heart recipe I came up with put an immediate stop to what was turning into a 5 day stretch of baby heart attacks. I think had I not found this very specific combination, I might have died at home. Sounds extreme, but this is what I was dealing with. Nonstop irregular heartbeats that never took a break for 4-5 days. It has taken me a full month to recover.. Covid is nasty stuff, as are the vaccinations undoubtedly. I have faith that with every major medical emergency I experience due to Covid or Vaccine shedding, my body will learn and become stronger. I believe it will be ready when the very worst variants arrive. And they will come. Whether by natural mutation or deliberate release. I have committed to myself to never turn myself into a hospital no matter how bad it gets. Besides, they don't want "dirty unvaccinated" people showing up any way. I totally agree with them. I don't want to be around them anymore than they want to be around me!

I cannot stress enough that long infusions of chosen herbs turned into a bit of a concentrate (preferably overnight) are infinitely more powerful than herb powder dust in a pill. If you study the way South American shaman healers make their concoctions over a fire, its very similar. Also, the heated spring water is very activating and healing to the entire system. Water has memory and is incredibly impressionable. Regarding tinctures, I have made many tinctures in my life, but I find that the alcohol destroys certain aspects of the plant's magic and so I don't use them anymore.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I find it very important to rotate the herbs in a counter-clockwise motion with a wooden spoon for roughly 15 seconds every 2-3 minutes during the 20 minute infusion, taking care to immediately re-cover after every spin. This may sound silly to some, but I believe in the counter-clockwise energetic flow as being very activating as well. It must be a non-metal spoon. Another little tip is collecting the steam that rises to the lid - I pour that back into infusion itself. The collected steam is actually what is known as hydrosol in essence. Many phytocomponents of the plants which are very healing rise up directly on the steam. I use to make glorious hydrosols with a copper alembic still for my old apothecary business.

Last but not least, everyone should practice sending emissions of prayer/intention to the water to enhance its light/energy. It truly works.

[Mike]

I have quite the little pharmacy built up too! My friends make fun of me relentlessly (tho they are slowly coming around to my ways as my suggestions frequently surprise and help them). Years and years ago when I was slugging down those gross green powder "superfood" drinks, they'd all chuckle and call it "swamp water", i.e. there goes Mike drinking that swamp water again:)

I was born with certain health problems, but also born I think with a mentality that favored a more natural approach to health. For better or worse I've decided to live this way, and if I'm going to go down it's going to be in my bedroom trying every last herb and nutritional supplement I can get my hands on...not in some f#cking sterile hospital, surrounded by pharm vultures. Not a snowball's chance in hell will I ever do that.

I've had covid too, but my heart held up quite well, shockingly. What it did to me was give me this dull, spirit crushing headache for weeks and weeks. I was totally emotionally flat, and had lost my spark completely. Felt like a robot. A certain panic set in, as I wondered if I'd be like this forever. But it finally relented, thank God. It did feel like something foreign and alien had compromised my systems heavily.

I admire your connection to spirit. I can just feel how much easier that makes things for you. Me, I'm sort of like a bull in a china shop. I make clumsy lists of things I might potentially want to take, and I methodically cross them out one by one as I try them. The irony is, I'm taking the damn stuff to stay alive but I'd have to live to a 1000 to try it all:). Anyway I'm getting better at using my intuition to sort those things out and expedite the process.

Do you have any suggestions for gingivitis??

[Lilyofthestars]

@Heretogrow,

Its wonderful to "meet" you too! What a gorgeous reply! Growing herbs is the height of all human experience, in my view anyway. I get Cinnamon Bark from an amazing little herbal company in Hawaii. They are known as Maus Herbals (https://www.mountainmausremedies.com/). Most of their herbs are grown in Hawaii, but they do import herbs as well. I always try to avoid imported herbs from larger than life plantations, as noted in the original post. Quality always seems to lack. Maus's Hawaiian grown herbs are potent. Pacific Botanicals, originally linked in the post, might have it as well. As for well water, so long as its being filtered or has been tested for impurities, go for it! I also really appreciate your warm welcome. :heart: I look forward to seeing you around Avalon. Thanks once more for your kindly written words.

@Spiral, love pine needle tea!

@ Violet, thanks for sharing your story.. I have had a very similar experience. I went for a little degree program out of Eugene, OR but ultimately felt unchallenged and realized I had already surpassed a lot of the material. The legalism of it all was so intense that I was immediately put off. I didn't enjoy the petty nature of it all, either.

[Bill Ryan]

An anecdote about herbal practice and training. :flower:

A friend of mine is a herbalist in the UK, and wanted to learn Chinese herbal medicine. She actually went to China to do that. (Wow!)

Part of the training she went through was to sit in a greenhouse with all the many different herbs, and then ask them what each one was for.

She'd do that telepathically, until she got some kind of an 'answer'. Then the Chinese herbal coach/trainer/master would tell her if she was correct or not.

In the end, she got pretty good at it, which was needed to pass the course and get the qualification.

Of course, this makes perfect sense. Thousands of years ago, e.g. in the Amazon rainforest when surrounded by about 50,000 different plant species, there's no way a small tribal family could figure out by trial and error what was a cure for a malady and what was a toxic spear-tip poison. They had to be told by the plants themselves.

[Lilyofthestars]

Of course, this makes perfect sense. Thousands of years ago, e.g. in the Amazon rainforest when surrounded by about 50,000 different plant species, there's no way a small tribal family could figure out by trial and error what was a cure for a malady and what was a toxic spear-tip poison. They had to be told by the plants themselves.

Bill, this is exactly true.. Having a spiritual communication between living plants and humans is an essential part of reawakening to our purpose as souls. You may be familiar with the art of flower essences, which is actually far more complicated than many might realize. Successfully making a true potent flower essence depends on one's ability to communicate with the plant in question. Many have learned about it, but most do not realize all that it entails. There are tons of low quality directions on the process, sadly. It isn't as simple as just throwing some flowers on water and waiting.. But I won't get into that now.

I'd like to share an amazing experience I had a few months ago - I was in a deep sleep/trance state one evening when suddenly one of my plants appeared to me directly in my third eye, right on top of my nose. I could see its astral/etheric form on top of its 3-D worldly form. Of course, it didn't use spoken words, but I understood what it was saying.. It literally spoke to me.. "I'm thirsty, and I'm giving birth to two babies.. Please come soon".. It then showed me its energetic body, which was florescent/glowing in light, and the two babies attached below at its base. I popped out of bed like lightening and rushed over to the plant only to find that it indeed had two babies!!! I had never noticed it before. The soil was bone dry (somehow I had missed it during my watering sessions). I actually cried the experience was so beautiful. What's more important than language above all is intention of the heart. The purer one's internal process, and the purer the heart, the more likely a communication link will be forged between plants and humans.

There is so much distraction in our world which removes humans from a certain inheritance to this realm of spiritual communication. Thousands of forms of poison that people have come to believe are "healthy" in their every day habits and sources of entertainment. It is these very sources that will dim the spiritual eye and desensitize our souls. I believe the purification path is the only path back to a genuine connection with the God, the cosmos, or whatever one's preferred semantics. We are meant to be in constant telepathic communication, and yet as a species, we've devolved such abilities over thousands of years. It has been said that our pineal glands are 8-9 times smaller than they use to be in Lemurian times.

[RunningDeer]

I'd like to share an amazing experience I had a few months ago - I was in a deep sleep/trance state one evening when suddenly one of my plants appeared to me directly in my third eye, right on top of my nose. I could see its astral/etheric form on top of its 3-D worldly form. Of course, it didn't use words, but I understood what it was saying.. It literally spoke to me.. "I'm thirsty, and I'm giving birth to two babies.. Please come soon".. It then showed me its energetic body, which was florescent/glowing in light, and the two babies attached below at its base. I popped out of bed like lightening and rushed over to the plant only to find that it indeed had two babies!!! I had never noticed it before. The soil was bone dry (somehow I had missed it during my watering sessions). I actually cried the experience was so beautiful. What's more important than language above all is intention of the heart. The purer one's internal process, and the purer the heart, the more likely a communication link will be forged between plants and humans.
Precious and uplifting, Lilyofthestars. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/fly-branches.gif
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[Pam]

Of course, this makes perfect sense. Thousands of years ago, e.g. in the Amazon rainforest when surrounded by about 50,000 different plant species, there's no way a small tribal family could figure out by trial and error what was a cure for a malady and what was a toxic spear-tip poison. They had to be told by the plants themselves.

Bill, this is exactly true.. Having a spiritual communication between living plants and humans is an essential part of reawakening to our purpose as souls. You may be familiar with the art of flower essences, which is actually far more complicated than many might realize. Successfully making a true potent flower essence depends on one's ability to communicate with the plant in question. Many have learned about it, but most do not realize all that it entails. There are tons of low quality directions on the process, sadly. It isn't as simple as just throwing some flowers on water and waiting.. But I won't get into that now.

I'd like to share an amazing experience I had a few months ago - I was in a deep sleep/trance state one evening when suddenly one of my plants appeared to me directly in my third eye, right on top of my nose. I could see its astral/etheric form on top of its 3-D worldly form. Of course, it didn't use spoken words, but I understood what it was saying.. It literally spoke to me.. "I'm thirsty, and I'm giving birth to two babies.. Please come soon".. It then showed me its energetic body, which was florescent/glowing in light, and the two babies attached below at its base. I popped out of bed like lightening and rushed over to the plant only to find that it indeed had two babies!!! I had never noticed it before. The soil was bone dry (somehow I had missed it during my watering sessions). I actually cried the experience was so beautiful. What's more important than language above all is intention of the heart. The purer one's internal process, and the purer the heart, the more likely a communication link will be forged between plants and humans.

There is so much distraction in our world which removes humans from a certain inheritance to this realm of spiritual communication. Thousands of forms of poison that people have come to believe are "healthy" in their every day habits and sources of entertainment. It is these very sources that will dim the spiritual eye and desensitize our souls. I believe the purification path is the only path back to a genuine connection with the God, the cosmos, or whatever one's preferred semantics. We are meant to be in constant telepathic communication, and yet as a species, we've devolved such abilities over thousands of years. It has been said that our pineal glands are 8-9 times smaller than they use to be in Lemurian times.

This story is so beautiful it brought me to tears. I have a very close relationship with my plants as well. You are what the future holds for humanity. You are here to share that example with us if we only embrace it. Being intuitive with the the earth and of course that includes our wonderful and diverse plant life is as essential as our relationships with other humans. We do not evolve until we open to the connections that that is here between all of life.

It really is an honor to have on this forum. Not only do you have the connection we all need to have but you can express that to us. It really makes me so happy to read this. Happy and hopeful!!!

I am just fascinated by your sharing of the energetics of the stirring. I have always used my fresh herbs by creating tea and you have inspired me to venture further. I was given a lovely gift this year of a grow light system so I could grow lettuce indoors even in the winter months. I thinking perhaps doing this with some herbs that do not thrive year round out doors.

Thank you for sharing this information and your beautiful connection to the plants.

[Spiral]

Having a spiritual communication between living plants and humans is an essential part of reawakening to our purpose as souls. You may be familiar with the art of flower essences, which is actually far more complicated than many might realize. Successfully making a true potent flower essence depends on one's ability to communicate with the plant in question

What you have been saying on this thread about the connection to plants are the same things that I was told by the spirit of a neolithic young lady bizarre as it may sound, which I only posted a couple of days ago. It's like you validated it for me :sun:

Have you ever considered writing a book ? The thing is you not only have a great knowledge, you also have a very special gift with the written word as well, & I don't mean "good English" there's more to it than that, RunningDeer captured it better than I could; "Precious and uplifting".

[Lilyofthestars]

Spiral, I have never considered it.. That's really kind of you. I know I can be overly verbose at times but it's just how my spirit flows from me. There's something crystalized deep within that I believe comes from past lifetimes. Its difficult to put a lid on it.

I figure only the title bearers are given any attention regarding books, and so I keep my nose out of their world. I'm incapable of fitting into it in the first place. I grew up in a family which only surrounded itself with other Ph.D types. I saw enough for a lifetime regarding the rejection of certain lines of thought, feeling, or intuition. I was hounded hard for years by all my Father's self-righteous Ph.D buddies for not fitting into their version of "brilliance". I dropped out of college and have no regrets. Very few people want to hear from those who claim knowledge that wasn't traditionally acquired.

While I realize many people are self-published out there, I suppose I just don't want to be "that person". I'm far too sensitive, and as I've seen Pam say on multiple discussion threads, I too have "Unbalanced Empathy" issues. I literally take on the world's vibrations, including other individuals, which can be debilitating and exhausting. Much like a crystal, I soak up various energetic fields all around me where ever I go. This can be a good and bad thing. I guess what I'm getting at is, its takes all my energy just to exist sometimes. I'm trying to keep my eyes on the new world I sense will arise after 2030 or so.. One that arises independently of the impending NWO system. Many here will probably know exactly what I mean by this!

[Spiral]

Spiral, I have never considered it.. That's really kind of you. I know I can be overly verbose at times but it's just how my spirit flows from me. There's something crystalized deep within that I believe comes from past lifetimes. Its difficult to put a lid on it.

I figure only the title bearers are given any attention regarding books, and so I keep my nose out of their world. I'm incapable of fitting into it in the first place. I grew up in a family which only surrounded itself with other "Ph.D" types. I saw enough for a lifetime regarding the rejection of certain lines of thought, feeling, or intuition. I was hounded hard for years by all my Father's self-righteous Ph.D buddies for not fitting into their version of "brilliance". I dropped out of college and have no regrets. Very few people want to hear from those who claim knowledge that wasn't traditionally acquired. I know where I'm not wanted.

While I realize many people are 'self-published' out there, I suppose I just don't want to be "that person". I'm far too sensitive, and as I've seen Pam say on multiple discussion threads, I too have "Unbalanced Empathy" issues. I literally take on the world's vibrations, including other individuals, which can be debilitating and exhausting. Much like a crystal, I soak up various energetic fields all around me where ever I go. This can be a good and bad thing. I guess what I'm getting at is, its takes all my energy just to "exist" sometimes. I'm trying to keep my eyes on the new world I believe will be here after 2030 or so.. One that rises independently of the coming NWO system. Many here will probably know exactly what I mean by this!

I completely understand.

[graciousb]

I'm on my 3rd week with 'Omicron' issues-my racing heart, congested lungs and diaphragm muscle spasm from excessive coughing is one the debilitating ailments I suffering from atm.
I have sent this list to my wife as she also practices with 'natural medicines'.
I think we have most of those ingredients, also in tea form - maybe she can make a super -brew of tea?

Thank you for sharing your recipes!

I've heard recently from very credible source that milk thistle particularly (along with some other easily available supplements) binds to the spike protein and disables it. It has other benefits on detox/ liver. The person recommending works in medical setting, was vaxxed (forced to), everyone around him got ill but he never has, takes the milk thistle along with NAC, quercetin, rhodiola (similar to ginseng) and plant sterol called beta sisterol. Worth a try, all plant based, will not hurt you.

[leavesoftrees]

Do you have any suggestions for gingivitis??
Hi Mike I brush my teeth and gums with a few drops of oregano oil for gingivitis, then a good session with floss and interdental brush. Usually fully recovered after doing this a couple of times

[Harmony]

Lilyofthestars, I really am enjoying your posts and all that others have contributed as well. It stirs something inside of a remembrance of our connection to goodness and feels very expansive.


What I most loved about the movie Avatar was the way native inhabitants were connected to the animals and plants and earth energies. It reminded me of the research done on the fungi that acts as a huge communication system between plants running under forests and areas covered in plant life.


When I am in my garden I am sure I feel a deep connection with my plants and also with the animals. I was having a dream quite a while back where a shaman type man was teaching me how to connect to plants through love while walking amongst an old rambling garden. The plants would curl around my arm in love, like a hug. For about 3 days after the dream I was able to put my arm near plants and they would move towards me which was quite amazing.


Thank you for sharing and I hope you will be able to share more when the time is right.:heart:

[mizo]

I'm on my 3rd week with 'Omicron' issues-my racing heart, congested lungs and diaphragm muscle spasm from excessive coughing is one the debilitating ailments I suffering from atm.
I have sent this list to my wife as she also practices with 'natural medicines'.
I think we have most of those ingredients, also in tea form - maybe she can make a super -brew of tea?

Thank you for sharing your recipes!

I've heard recently from very credible source that milk thistle particularly (along with some other easily available supplements) binds to the spike protein and disables it. It has other benefits on detox/ liver. The person recommending works in medical setting, was vaxxed (forced to), everyone around him got ill but he never has, takes the milk thistle along with NAC, quercetin, rhodiola (similar to ginseng) and plant sterol called beta sisterol. Worth a try, all plant based, will not hurt you.

Thank you for the advice we do have milk thistle at home, though I haven't taken it yet. NAC, quercetin, I have been taking -rhodiola we do not have. beta sisterol I'm sure my wife has this too.

I'm unvaxxed. I didn't even ponder that this virus would hit me so hard -I think (hope) I'm towards end of this malady 'touch wood', off to try the milk thistle now. :heart:

[Dorjezigzag]

I can relate to a lot of the posters on this excellent and positive thread that express a form of communication with mother natures bounty. If people haven't already read it I highly recommend Jeremy Narby's book The Cosmic serpent.

"While living among Peruvian Indians, anthropologist Jeremy Narby became intrigued by their claim that their phenomenal knowledge of plants and biochemistry was communicated to them directly while under the influence of hallucinogens.

Despite his initial scepticism, Narby found himself engaged in an increasingly obsessive personal quest. The evidence he collected – on subjects as diverse as molecular biology, shamanism, neurology and ancient mythology – led inexorably to the conclusion that the Indians’ claims were literally true: to a consciousness prepared with drugs, specific biochemical knowledge could indeed be directly transmitted through DNA itself."
DNA is very similar visually to the intertwined serpents. He wonders if this, in some way, is what is being represented in these mystical visions. He then goes on to explore through cutting edge science if DNA is involved in this communication which we share with other life forms.

Jeremy Narby is a PHD and the book is extensively referenced and has been enjoyed by scientific friends I have recommended it to.

It is particularly interesting for me as my ex wife is Peruvian from the amazon and my son is half Peruvian.

https://www.weidenfeldandnicolson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/hbg-title-9781474603768-19.jpg?fit=440%2C675

[Lilyofthestars]

Sounds like an amazing read - the only thing I have a huge issue with is the use of drugs (of any type, be it natural or chemically created) to attain the ability. Call me gullible or naïve, and many would (its just water off a duck's back so to speak..)- but I believe in the purification path of the soul as a means to higher spiritual vision and "seeing" as the best possible route to acquiring such delicate sensitivities. I never needed any form of psychedelics to have a lifetime of interdimensional experiences. It seems to be an innate thing for me since birth. I am sure that has a lot to do with soul origins and my past lifetimes, however. The abilities undoubtedly followed me and carried over. This isn't the case for everyone.

Perhaps some people need to have such psychedelics to induce certain experiences so that they can prove something to themselves. Part of me feels like the use of such psychedelics is "cheating". Much like giving a toy to a child he or she isn't quite ready for or prepared for. I have gone on lengthy rants about this in the past with people I've known who have used such substances to acquire spiritual insight. From their stories, it became obvious to me that they were having halluncations and not genuine visions or out of body travels. One friend who took a whole lot of shrooms saw nothing but "wolves" all around him glaring at him and growling. My opinion is that his subconscious was spitting out the imagery, and no, he was not going on a spirit quest or having a genuine interdimensional experience. I don't think its healthy for most people to take these things in an attempt to "toggle" on the spiritual eye. This is never wise and it will usually lead to a whole series of hallucinations that aren't necessarily accurate. It's never a fun debate. And I'll only briefly touch down on that belief now so as to avoid offending anyone.

I have been told by many people in my life that most things I describe could only be experienced on LSD, DMT, plant psychedelic, or shrooms. I've never in my life even experimented with any of them - not once. I understand this helps some people who have dim spiritual sight prove to themselves there's a larger reality out there. Hence why American college kids fly down to South American countries in the troves on their spring break to beg Shamans to take them on "trips" so that they can "see". In the end, they will need to learn how to do these things without psychedelics. The party life will not help them find this path. And its a total slap in the face and insult to the shamans to have to put up with these kids. I remember a story that came out a few years ago of a Shaman who was murdered by a bunch of college spring breakers because he didn't appreciate their partying lifestyle and neurosis which was imposed all over the tribe. The kids killed him in a drug infused rage. I feel deeply that genuine damage is done to the soul in question on many levels including the etheric/astral. No amount of books on the topic will convince me otherwise. I deeply value Shaman medicine and plant knowledge, but I will never agree with the use of psychedelics as a means of increasing spiritual sensitivity.

One example is from the RA material, and while I know not everyone believes in it as authentic channeled material which can be trusted, there are many who know and feel it is. Carla was once scolded for using LSD by RA. It was explained that her channeling centers were deeply damaged by it and it could take six months up to a year just to restore the delicate balance within her various etheric/spiritual bodies. This rang true to me. Even if she had taken a more natural form from plants, I still believe RA would have said the same thing to her. One can take certain Psychedelics to induce such an experience, but there may be consequences years down the line to the mind/soul/body complex. Even with more natural forms of it that come from the plant world. I have heard all of the devil's advocate side of the debate.. That we were "meant" to take them, that they (shrooms and other plant psychedelics) were supposedly responsible for the evolution of the human brain; that they wouldn't grow on Earth if we weren't meant to eat them, and so on.. I simply don't see it this way. For me, its yet another Ph.D story I won't buy into.

My apologies to anyone who might find offense to this point of view. This is just something I know in my heart to be true. I also say this as a Non-religious person - Can you imagine if Jesus had thrown a bunch of psychedelics at the apostles to try to "force" the spiritual eye to come forward and be activated? I know I don't believe he would have.. He would have considered it insanity. He believed in one path - that of the single eye of purification of the heart/soul. He provided the pattern to the world. Others throughout history have as well, though they may not have a fancy Ph.D title attached or were ever known on the public stage.

[Spiral]

Sounds like an amazing read - the only thing I have a huge issue with is the use of drugs (of any type, be it natural or chemically created) to attain the ability. Call me gullible or naïve, and many would (its just water off a duck's back so to speak..)- but I believe in the purification path of the soul as a means to higher spiritual vision and "seeing" as the best possible route to acquiring such delicate sensitivities. I never needed any form of psychedelics to have a lifetime of interdimensional experiences. It seems to be an innate thing for me since birth. I am sure that has a lot to do with soul origins and my past lifetimes, however. The abilities undoubtedly followed me and carried over. This isn't the case for everyone.

Perhaps some people need to have such psychedelics to induce certain experiences so that they can prove something to themselves. Part of me feels like the use of such psychedelics is "cheating". Much like giving a toy to a child he or she isn't quite ready for or prepared for. I have gone on lengthy rants about this in the past with people I've known who have used such substances to acquire spiritual insight. From their stories, it became obvious to me that they were having halluncations and not genuine visions or out of body travels. One friend who took a whole lot of shrooms saw nothing but "wolves" all around him glaring at him and growling. My opinion is that his subconscious was spitting out the imagery, and no, he was not going on a spirit quest or having a genuine interdimensional experience. I don't think its healthy for most people to take these things in an attempt to "toggle" on the spiritual eye. This is never wise and it will usually lead to a whole series of hallucinations that aren't necessarily accurate. It's never a fun debate. And I'll only briefly touch down on that belief now so as to avoid offending anyone.

I have been told by many people in my life that most things I describe could only be experienced on LSD, DMT, plant psychedelic, or shrooms. I've never in my life even experimented with any of them - not once. I understand this helps some people who have dim spiritual sight prove to themselves there's a larger reality out there. Hence why American college kids fly down to South American countries in the troves on their spring break to beg Shamans to take them on "trips" so that they can "see". In the end, they will need to learn how to do these things without psychedelics. The party life will not help them find this path. And its a total slap in the face and insult to the shamans to have to put up with these kids. I remember a story that came out a few years ago of a Shaman who was murdered by a bunch of college spring breakers because he didn't appreciate their partying lifestyle and neurosis which was imposed all over the tribe. The kids killed him in a drug infused rage. I feel deeply that genuine damage is done to the soul in question on many levels including the etheric/astral. No amount of books on the topic will convince me otherwise. I deeply value Shaman medicine and plant knowledge, but I will never agree with the use of psychedelics as a means of increasing spiritual sensitivity.

One example is from the RA material, and while I know not everyone believes in it as authentic channeled material which can be trusted, there are many who know and feel it is. Carla was once scolded for using LSD by RA. It was explained that her channeling centers were highly damaged by it and it could take six months up to a year just to restore the delicate balance within her various etheric/spiritual bodies. This rang true to me. One can take certain Psychedelics to induce such an experience, but there may be consequences years down the line to the mind/soul/body complex. Even with more natural forms of it that come from the plant world. I have heard all of the devil's advocate side of the debate.. That we were "meant" to take them, that they (shrooms and other plant psychedelics) were supposedly responsible for the evolution of the human brain; that they wouldn't grow on Earth if we weren't meant to eat them, and so on.. I simply don't see it this way. For me, its yet another Ph.D story I won't buy into.

My apologies to anyone who might find offense to this point of view. This is just something I know in my heart to be true.

I think there is a lot of truth in what you are saying there.

People who think mystical experiences are like being on shrooms or acid have most likely never had mystical experiences or used entheogens, because they are nothing like the same.

I totally agree about kids thinking substances are some kind of party or instant access to other realms, they aren't, not for someone straight of the street, it's completely different for a shaman who lives an ascetic lifestyle & the taking of a substance is regarded as sacred & is done in a time honoured ritual.

But ultimately it's better without, it's "cleaner" without an aspect of intoxication IMHO.

[Lilyofthestars]

Spiral, I edited the previous post with a little bit about Jesus - let's just say the higher realms urged me to add that in. :)
Thanks for your reply. When a person's soul isn't prepared for such a thing, they are not going to experience an authentic out of body travel or mystical experience. They are going to hallucinate. There is a fine line between one's own fantasies and genuine interdimensional vision.

[Dorjezigzag]

For me, its yet another Ph.D story I won't buy into.


My apologies to anyone who might find offense to this point of view. This is just something I know in my heart to be true.

No offense taken Lilly of the stars. I am quite secure in my beliefs and practices. What may be true for your heart, may not be true for another. Everyone should have sovereinty over their own heart.

Although this is a story by the PHD. It is really the story of how the Amazonion Ashaninca tribe make use of the plants that surround them. This is not some new age channeling, it is a rich, ancient and deep tradition. Im sure if you ever came into touch with a genuine shaman from this tradition you would not think there psychic centres were damaged. quite the contrary they would likely blow you away with their insights.

When I have spoken to various shamans they are also often unfavourable against the energy of LSD. which of course is a synthetic drug as apposed to more natural substances and thus has its associated energetic attachments.

Of course you can connect with other realms without using power plants and many indegineous cultures around the world do not use any form of entheogen. Through other shamanic means like meditation, ecstatic dance, divination and repetitive beats.

Of course The use of entheogens has its risks and although one can connect with positive spirits and entities, the reverse is also possible. This is the art of the shaman. Of course negative entities can also become attached when not taking enthoegens as well.

I have actually been in conversation with various shamans around the world regarding the Covid19 and it has been interesting to hear their perceptions of the 'virus' which has been pretty consistent.

As I said earlier I do think this has been a positive thread with some good advice but I do think it needs to be mentioned is that healing does not just happen on a materialistic level there is a spiritual aspect as well. That is why herbs tend to be more effective on some than others. The concept of building up a relationship with a plant is so alien to modern western thinking. That just want their quick fixes and pharmaceutical magic pills.

Healing can happen through entheogens but a lot of the healing does not come from the chemical composition of the substance it comes through connecting you to a 'light;, an energy that cleanses that which needs to be cleansed. They can be a bridge that heals but also can be one that destroys.

[Dorjezigzag]

Can you imagine if Jesus had thrown a bunch of psychedelics at the apostles to try to "force" the spiritual eye to come forward and be activated? I know I don't believe he would have.. He would have considered it insanity. He believed in one path - that of the single eye of purification of the heart/soul.

Well there are many people that believe that indeed is what happened, well without the 'forcing' aspect. I have an open mind on the subject. I think it could have been done with or without.


There are biblical references to entheogens, like this one:
And Reuben went in the days of wheat harvest, and found mandrakes in the field, and brought them unto his mother Leah. Then Rachel said to Leah: Give me, I pray
thee, of thy son’s mandrakes. And she said unto her: Is it a small matter that thou hast taken my husband? and wouldest thou take away my son’s mandrakes also? And Rachel said, Therefore he shall lie with thee tonight for thy son’s mandrakes.
Genesis 30: 14–15

And of course many people believe the burning bush was acacia which has high levels of DMT.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Bourdon_Sebastien-Moses_and_the_Burning_Bush.jpg

https://darianwest.medium.com/did-moses-see-god-because-of-a-dmt-experience-a12909475ed5

[Lilyofthestars]

This is not some new age channeling, it is a rich, ancient and deep tradition. Im sure if you ever came into touch with a genuine shaman from this tradition you would not think there psychic centres were damaged.

I have. Many times actually. Its within my past life banks. But I won't go there for now... Maybe another post for another day. Please don't assume that anything I have said was acquired from some sort of baseless wish washy channeled perspective. The word "channeling" is universal and a matter of semantics. Receiving such cosmic memory and truth is not a patent put forth by South American shamans. It is universal. I assure you nothing I have said would fall into the category of casually channeled mumbo jumbo..

The rich, deep cultural heritage of Shamanic practices/wisdom which you speak of is accessible in more ways than one. What is even more rich than this is the reality that we all have rich incarnational histories spanning across countless cultures across the globe. Some truths/memories follow us eternally. You never know who you're talking to inside the illusory meat body.

I once saw a Native American woman berate a Caucasian man who wrote a book about his past life as a Native American. He felt he still possessed much of that deep knowledge. She refused to believe him, called him names, and accused him of being a fraud. I worked very hard to talk her around to the idea that it is indeed possible he remembered the information he was trying to share. She was blinded by hate and ignorance instead, insisting there was no way he could have known the things he claimed to know.


As I said earlier I do think this has been a positive thread with some good advice but I do think it needs to be mentioned is that healing does not just happen on a materialistic level there is a spiritual aspect as well.

I couldn't agree more. Throughout the entire thread there's been much discussion of the spiritual aspect of plants that lend their consciousness over to humans for healing. I've devoted my life to vibrational medicine studies in combination with homeopathic remedies, which I did not talk about on this thread. Vibrational medicine has nothing to do with taking "outside" plant matter to the inside to heal, as you noted. That is why in my original post, I made many suggestions about other things that may be done in conjunction with using the recipes. Sometimes I feel its better to meet people on the homeopathic herbal front because its far more self-adjusting and a comfortable place to start.


Of course The use of ethnoegens has its risks and although one can connect with positive spirits and entities, the reverse is also possible. There can be a bridge that heals but also can be one that destroys.

Agreed, again. What I was explaining however, in the previous post, is that many people seeking an "opening" through this means may confuse "connecting" with entities on the other side with straight up hallucinations, fantasy, and delusions. I have seen it first hand on one too many occasions with friends. This is common amongst the uninitiated in soul readiness. Initiations that have happened in past lifetimes, for example, will often follow a soul in their following lifetimes. My own past initiations from past lifetimes never had to do with the intaking of psychedelics. Some souls do not have to repeat the process over and over and over again simply because they have reincarnated. It becomes crystalized within the soul makeup. Because I don't think these type of spiritual resources are indicative to every soul on earth, I feel it would be unwise to use psychedelics to push the opening forward. This is not a perspective I am forcing on you or anyone, but rather I would be doing an injustice to all by not stating a different point of view. Albeit an unpopular one naturally, given the trendiness of psychedelics culturally amongst the new "wokism" culture.



Healing can happen through enthoegens but a lot of the healing does not come from the chemical composition of the substance it comes through connecting you to a 'light;, an energy that cleanses that which needs to be cleansed.

Absolutely agree with this. This is far more achieved when the plant is alive, such as with carefully prepared flower essences. I mentioned vibrational healing multiple times throughout the thread, but didn't want to get too deep into it for a reason. There is so much to understand and study regarding vibrational medicine and I didn't want to make it that complicated on this thread for the sake of "keeping it simple". Edward Bach, one of the leading historical doctors of homeopathic research, literally abandoned his previous stance on healing and eventually decided that vibrational medicine was the most effective of all. Flower essences literally carry the precise same unique vibrational signature of the plant, are not direct plant infusions, and the consciousness of the plant may transfer into the person who takes it. The first time I made my own Lilac flower essence, it was a perfect batch. I began seeing genuine rainbow entities flying all around me, and yet, not one bit of the plant matter had transferred into the water. I was also able to look at my own aura all around my hands, which totally shocked me. It turns out I have a rainbow aura which is considered quite rare.

As I noted to Spiral, if a soul is not ready for such a thing, psychedelics will only cause hallucinations that are not real. This is why I believe working with gentle herbs is far more useful guidance to those suffering from the recent pandemic. I have never in my life needed such a thing to have countless vision quests, direct conversations with higher dimensional beings, and information acquired from the other side. I think there are purer ways to acquire such sensitivities, personally.

[Lilyofthestars]

Well there are many people that believe that indeed is what happened, well without the 'forcing' aspect. I have an open mind on the subject. I think it could have been done with or without.


There are biblical references to entheogens, like this one:
And Reuben went in the days of wheat harvest, and found mandrakes in the field, and brought them unto his mother Leah. Then Rachel said to Leah: Give me, I pray
thee, of thy son’s mandrakes. And she said unto her: Is it a small matter that thou hast taken my husband? and wouldest thou take away my son’s mandrakes also? And Rachel said, Therefore he shall lie with thee tonight for thy son’s mandrakes.
Genesis 30: 14–15

And of course many people believe the burning bush was acacia which has high levels of DMT.



People believe a lot of things to justify a particular habit or lifestyle. I'll simply say I have my reasons for knowing there is no truth in this (regarding Jesus - though I wouldn't deny that people of the times experimented with psychedelics). Since I don't want to clog up the thread with endless debate, I'll keep those reasons to myself as it would end up being a research paper. I truly appreciate your input, however! :flower:

[Dorjezigzag]

I personally believe that for some people entheogens could be part of an effective counterbalance to covid19 and the vaccines. In regards to early Christianity and psychedelics Brian C. Muraresku. the author of The Immortality Key has some interesting research. He has never tried psychedelics ( well unless he has recently) so has no 'lifestyle' or 'habit' to support.

There is a thread on avalon for those interested in this topic.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112444-Joe-Rogan-Experience-1543-Brian-Muraresku-Graham-Hancock&highlight=Brian+Muraresku


The joe Rogan video on that thread has been removed so I Have included the jordan peterson interview, here

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[Lilyofthestars]

Fascinating stuff, Dorjezigzag. Thanks for sharing. Psychedelics most certainly have been used throughout all of human history. There's no doubt to that. I appreciate your comments.

[Bubu]

Some people drink a cup of coffee and can't sleep the whole night. others can have 1 2 or 3 cups and still sleep soundly through the night. Such is the wonder of diversity. There is beauty or otherwise in almost anything. depending on the observer. Chedelics are wonderful to some and a nuisance to some that's perfectly fine.

Welcome to the forum Angela, Speak up your through no matter what. Attacks will teach you defense and counter attacks. From someone who's a recicepint of attacks and bullying since young age.

[Pam]

Lilyofthestars, I really am enjoying your posts and all that others have contributed as well. It stirs something inside of a remembrance of our connection to goodness and feels very expansive.


What I most loved about the movie Avatar was the way native inhabitants were connected to the animals and plants and earth energies. It reminded me of the research done on the fungi that acts as a huge communication system between plants running under forests and areas covered in plant life.


When I am in my garden I am sure I feel a deep connection with my plants and also with the animals. I was having a dream quite a while back where a shaman type man was teaching me how to connect to plants through love while walking amongst an old rambling garden. The plants would curl around my arm in love, like a hug. For about 3 days after the dream I was able to put my arm near plants and they would move towards me which was quite amazing.


Thank you for sharing and I hope you will be able to share more when the time is right.:heart:

Oh Harmony, my heart sings with your post. And the dream, what a beautiful dream.

I hope you won't mind me going a bit off topic, but Harmony, you reminded me of a little event this summer. I had a fly in the house, flying against the window to get out. My usual thing is to get a jar and a piece of paper, capture them and a put them outside. For some reason I jokingly said to the little guy, "wouldn't it be easier if you hopped on my finger and just let me put you outside". Sure enough, he flew on my finger, stayed there as I walked to the door and opened it. I put my finger up and off he flew!!

Ok, I promise not to drift off any more! Back to topic!!!!!:heart:

[Harmony]

Lilyofthestars, I really am enjoying your posts and all that others have contributed as well. It stirs something inside of a remembrance of our connection to goodness and feels very expansive.


What I most loved about the movie Avatar was the way native inhabitants were connected to the animals and plants and earth energies. It reminded me of the research done on the fungi that acts as a huge communication system between plants running under forests and areas covered in plant life.


When I am in my garden I am sure I feel a deep connection with my plants and also with the animals. I was having a dream quite a while back where a shaman type man was teaching me how to connect to plants through love while walking amongst an old rambling garden. The plants would curl around my arm in love, like a hug. For about 3 days after the dream I was able to put my arm near plants and they would move towards me which was quite amazing.


Thank you for sharing and I hope you will be able to share more when the time is right.:heart:

Oh Harmony, my heart sings with your post. And the dream, what a beautiful dream.

I hope you won't mind me going a bit off topic, but Harmony, you reminded me of a little event this summer. I had a fly in the house, flying against the window to get out. My usual thing is to get a jar and a piece of paper, capture them and a put them outside. For some reason I jokingly said to the little guy, "wouldn't it be easier if you hopped on my finger and just let me put you outside". Sure enough, he flew on my finger, stayed there as a walked to the door and opened it. I put my finger up and off he flew!!

Ok, I promise not to drift off any more!

Thanks so much for sharing dear Pam. It's wonderful to hear people's experiences of how we really are so connected to everything when finding ways to "tune in":heart:

[Lilyofthestars]

I love this Pam! I've gotten pretty good at doing the exact same thing in recent months. Flies are intensely sensitive to energy fields. If you approach them with loving emanations, they rarely fly away and will happily perch on your hand happily making it very easy to just walk them outside. I figured I was the only weirdo who did this. :blushing:

[amor]

MIKE: Gingivitis is easily solved by flossing your teeth at least once a day, especially if you have eaten meat or garlic or onions in your heavy meal. Another ingredient is NEVER GO TO BED WITHOUT FLOSSING THEN BRUSHING YOUR TEETH. When I forget and do this, I am unable to sleep and must get it done even in the middle of the night. Another tip is that I have found a FLAT DENTAL FLOSS which is easier on your teeth and gums than the ROUND FLOSS. Consistency of flossing very quickly stops Gingivitis.

[amor]

MIKE: For Gingivitis, use Dental Floss Flat Tape, better than Round Tape and use it every night before brushing your teeth. EVERY NIGHT, especially after eating pungent things like onion and garlic and the fibers of any meat. In a very short time those bloody spots will disappear from your gums. IF NOT YOU WILL BEGIN TO LOSE YOUR TEETH.