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Eric J (Viking)
22nd January 2022, 07:29
What do you avalonians think about this....

This recent video was leaked all over the internet, garnering very different responses from all around the globe. In this footage, you can clearly see a group of army soldiers openly discussing aliens and all that there is to them. The video went viral almost overnight, mainly thanks to the relaxed tone used by the soldiers.

Video here


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-G_wioWmBQ

Further reading

https://alienstar.net/footage-showing-us-soldiers-talking-about-various-alien-beings-ufos-and-majestic-12/?fbclid=IwAR3aTIcy5tKaiG8uWA5owIAuEpE-grCi_LekaKtfVvT_ir_ORXiaLxV1CbU

Original source https://alienstar.net/footage-showing-us-soldiers-talking-about-various-alien-beings-ufos-and-majestic-12/?fbclid=IwAR3aTIcy5tKaiG8uWA5owIAuEpE-grCi_LekaKtfVvT_ir_ORXiaLxV1CbU

Journeyman
22nd January 2022, 08:02
There's an authenticity to it, they feel like US soldiers, they speak over each other as happens in real life, there's a shaky hand held camera, an interruption to the meeting etc. They're making fun of it with some daft jokes as soldiers do. All of which lends a feeling of credibility, all of which could be faked.

The biggest argument against it is its existence. Why is the briefing being filmed? Why would OPSEC be breached by sharing it outside, risking serious punishment?

I don't know what to believe to be honest. Could be real, could be deliberate disinformation, part of a psy-op, could've been filmed in Vladivostok or Shanghai or at Area 51, or it could turn out to be viral marketing for a new movie.

Mare
22nd January 2022, 09:07
How old is this video? The sound is not great where I am but I’m sure I heard them making a reference to 21/12/2012 as a future event.

Mike Gorman
22nd January 2022, 10:10
It all looks very plausible, the constant swearing is authentic (!) From everything that is being revealed from the military quarter we know engagement with ET people is certain

jaybee
22nd January 2022, 10:35
There's an authenticity to it, they feel like US soldiers, they speak over each other as happens in real life, there's a shaky hand held camera, an interruption to the meeting etc. They're making fun of it with some daft jokes as soldiers do. All of which lends a feeling of credibility, all of which could be faked.

The biggest argument against it is its existence. Why is the briefing being filmed? Why would OPSEC be breached by sharing it outside, risking serious punishment?

I don't know what to believe to be honest. Could be real, could be deliberate disinformation, part of a psy-op, could've been filmed in Vladivostok or Shanghai or at Area 51, or it could turn out to be viral marketing for a new movie.



re bolded above - it was the (deliberate?) shaky camera that first alerted me to it being a set up of some kind - either an internet prank type thing, disinformation OR a method of disclosure..?... I mean c'mon - isn't it possible to hold the camera steadier than this and as it is all obviously being filmed - are they all playing to camera? But it's being made to look spontaneous... with a lot of swearing added for good measure...?

it reminded me of all the shaky UFO videos - :)

so my verdict is............ I have serious reservations about it's authenticity

Journeyman
22nd January 2022, 10:46
There's an authenticity to it, they feel like US soldiers, they speak over each other as happens in real life, there's a shaky hand held camera, an interruption to the meeting etc. They're making fun of it with some daft jokes as soldiers do. All of which lends a feeling of credibility, all of which could be faked.

The biggest argument against it is its existence. Why is the briefing being filmed? Why would OPSEC be breached by sharing it outside, risking serious punishment?

I don't know what to believe to be honest. Could be real, could be deliberate disinformation, part of a psy-op, could've been filmed in Vladivostok or Shanghai or at Area 51, or it could turn out to be viral marketing for a new movie.



re bolded above - it was the (deliberate?) shaky camera that first alerted me to it being a set up of some kind - either an internet prank type thing, disinformation OR a method of disclosure..?... I mean c'mon - isn't it possible to hold the camera steadier than this and as it is all obviously being filmed - are all playing to camera? But it's being made to look spontaneous... with a lot of swearing added for good measure...?

it reminded me of all the shaky UFO videos - :)

so my verdict is............ I have serious reservations about it's authenticity

Yeah, I didn't link the two together in the previous post but it goes along with the 'why is it being filmed?' If it's being filmed for operational reasons then you'd expect a tripod, proper framing, classification on the film, probably a way of identifying any frame etc.

None of that's there, at which point you have to believe that trained soldiers on top secret missions are whipping out their phones, filming classified info and then letting it be distributed. Which doesn't happen, because no-one wants to spend 30 years in a military prison.

So I agree, the shaky cam is one more indication of a likely fake.

Bill Ryan
22nd January 2022, 12:01
That's pretty interesting. It does sound fully authentic to me. The guy being filmed seems to be very confident of his information, some of which is very detailed.

A few notes:


This is dated to Obama's presidency (2008-2016). ("I'm pretty sure he knows", says the guy being filmed.) The video upload date is Apr 17, 2012.
The video was taken with a hand-held iPhone (though everyone in the room must have been able to see that.)
Serpo is mentioned once, just after 3:55 ("their planet was destroyed, so they had to go to Serpo") and the exchange program is also referenced later. (Though the details are wrong, and so it's hearsay: the actual number of military astronauts who went on the exchange was three, not twelve.)

Did You See Them
22nd January 2022, 12:12
Bill, how much ... faith (?) do you put in Serpo today, on a percentage scale.
No smoke without fire is my take, be it credible or incredible.
Any updates anywhere on the whole affair ?
Interesting video though.

Bill Ryan
22nd January 2022, 12:17
Bill, how much ... faith (?) do you put in Serpo today, on a percentage scale.
No smoke without fire is my take, be it credible or incredible.
Any updates anywhere on the whole affair ?
Interesting video though.The exchange program certainly happened. See this thread:


Project Serpo (aka Project Crystal Knight): the whole story (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16571-Project-Serpo--aka-Project-Crystal-Knight--the-whole-story)

There was quite a lot of silly disinfo in the 2005-2006 Serpo releases, but the core story was real. The main difference is that only 3 military astronauts went on the exchange program (not 12). Linda Howe published their names once, but I believe that's now behind her Earthfiles paywall. John Lear, Bob Emenegger, and Bill Hamilton all independently confirmed that real number to me.

Sunny-side-up
22nd January 2022, 13:19
It all seems real to me.
Most in the room have no actual idea (SO not falsely briefed), all seem inexperienced and view possible conflict in gun-oh way as those of a film, like 'Independence day'

Wonder what experiences these guys have had by now.

CurEus
22nd January 2022, 14:28
Although interesting this does not strike me as a "briefing" and the presenter just seems like an average person that spends quite a bit of time down the rabbit hole. He is really only promulgating "popular" theories but does not speak from a position of experience or formal training in these areas....

At best he has spent a bit too much time watching Ancient Aliens, but I DO LIKE that the soldiers are not hostile or dismissive of the information he shares. They seem curious.

RunningDeer
22nd January 2022, 15:05
How old is this video? The sound is not great where I am but I’m sure I heard them making a reference to 21/12/2012 as a future event.

This video was uploaded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-G_wioWmBQ) 10 years ago on April 17, 2012 - 858,274 views and the subscriber count is low. The article was posted January 21, 2022. It’ll be interesting to see how fast the views increase.


https://i.imgur.com/TGvVycB.jpg

UPDATE: Bill, I'm reading the posts in order. I've just come to yours where you answered Mare's question. :wave:

Bill Ryan
22nd January 2022, 15:17
Although interesting this does not strike me as a "briefing" and the presenter just seems like an average person that spends quite a bit of time down the rabbit hole. He is really only promulgating "popular" theories but does not speak from a position of experience or formal training in these areas....

At best he has spent a bit too much time watching Ancient Aliens, but I DO LIKE that the soldiers are not hostile or dismissive of the information he shares. They seem curious.Yes, it wasn't anything formal. (Or else it'd not have stayed on YouTube for 5 minutes!) It sounds like an Army instructor was just adding some personal thoughts about ETs to what maybe had been a formal briefing on something totally different.

But some of his responses really did seem like he knew something. (For instance, the ETs who had "moved to Serpo after a war" is nothing that's ever been anywhere on the internet. I'm quite sure of that.)

Of interest, Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' told Kerry Cassidy and myself that he had actually once attended a formal briefing on the entire ET situation. All he told us (my close paraphrase from memory) was that it was extremely intricate and complicated, he could hardly remember most of it, and the guy who presented it "must have had an IQ of 190" to present it all.

avid
22nd January 2022, 15:20
Bill, I vaguely remember you and Kerry tracking one of the surviving Serpo returnees down, and you went to visit unsuccessfully. That was years ago, Am I correct? Your Serpo revelations were what made me join the 1st forum. The famous members there were absolutely amazing, sadly most now passed.

Bill Ryan
22nd January 2022, 15:24
Bill, I vaguely remember you and Kerry tracking one of the surviving Serpo returnees down, and you went to visit unsuccessfully. That was years ago, Am I correct? Your Serpo revelations were what made me join the 1st forum. The famous members there were absolutely amazing, sadly most now passed.Yes. He wasn't a "returnee" — he was a reserve astronaut, one who was trained for the mission but who never actually went.

Kerry and I actually went to his house, where we passed him a very polite note via his wife — who was waiting for us at the gate, even though we'd never told anyone at all that we were on our way to visit him.

I still have his full name and address, but (as one might expect) I've never disclosed it publicly, and would not do so, as (a) he would be extremely elderly now even if he was still alive, and (b) absolutely no purpose would be served by breaking the respected confidentiality.

avid
22nd January 2022, 15:31
Wow, looking back, what an exciting life you are having this time around, so many discoveries, amazing adventures, meeting the most fascinating people etc.
Yet folk are still looking for your ‘previous’ self in the Himalayas…
Sorry, back to topic :highfive::clapping:

Lilyofthestars
22nd January 2022, 17:07
It is so nauseating to hear the way these guys talk. The guy can't even get a word in without "F this" and "F that".. I wanted to hear what he had to say concerning Close encounters of the third kind being not too far from the truth.. I had heard a similar rumor, that Spielberg was fed this story from an insider and that it actually happened quite similar. The guy didn't get to finish what he was saying.. Sigh.

Regarding the shaky cam, I never once saw any of the guys look directly at the camera, making me think they didn't realize they were being filmed. It seemed to me that he was constantly readjusting it because he didn't want anyone to notice he was filming. Perhaps he was holding it under a sweater to conceal it, I mean, who knows. The main guy sharing the information didn't seem to know he was being filmed due to the fact he never looks directly down at the device. He only maintains eye contact with those around him. It looks like the camera is flush to the table and possibly being covered. Generally people don't hold a camera flush to the table unless they're trying to look less obvious when filming.

Le Chat
22nd January 2022, 17:12
soldiers on top secret missions are whipping out their phones, filming classified info and then letting it be distributed. Which doesn't happen, because no-one wants to spend 30 years in a military prison.

Does anyone think that the guy giving the talk isn't aware of at least one phone pointing at him, even looking at it?
If this was a classified meeting, then that wouldn't be happening....

Bill Ryan
22nd January 2022, 17:19
I wanted to hear what he had to say concerning Close encounters of the third kind being not too far from the truth.. I had heard a similar rumor, that Spielberg was fed this story from an insider and that it actually happened quite similar. The guy didn't get to finish what he was saying.. Sigh.Here's the reference: (from Time Magazine, no less)


https://techland.time.com/2010/05/05/cryptids-project-serpo


Project Serpo details what apparently happened after the famous Roswell crash in 1947. Ever see Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Apparently that’s similar to what happened in the Serpo case, which details a story of an exchange program set up to send 12 of our people to the home planet of the aliens who crashed in the New Mexico desert.

According to the account, “It is reported that after President Ronald Reagan watched a special screening of ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind,’ he privately spoke to Steven Spielberg and said, ‘You don’t know how true this really is.’”

Lilyofthestars
22nd January 2022, 17:25
I have never heard about this Serpo exchange program or the whole story related to it. Wow!!! Excited to finally learn something new regarding our secret history with the various ET races. I'm only sorry that some pretty disturbing things have been uncovered. I use to want to believe that all ET races were loving and benevolent. Fairly naïve.

Bill Ryan
22nd January 2022, 17:34
I have never heard about this Serpo exchange program or the whole story related to it. Wow!!! Excited to finally learn something new regarding our secret history with the various ET races. I'm only sorry that some pretty disturbing things have been uncovered. I use to want to believe that all ET races were loving and benevolent. Fairly naïve.Ha. Well, here's the definitive thread. It's quite some story, I was deeply involved in all the intrigue, and the bulk of it is real.


Project Serpo (aka Project Crystal Knight): the whole story (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16571-Project-Serpo--aka-Project-Crystal-Knight--the-whole-story)

It might be best to ask specific questions about it all there (rather than here!) — I'll be happy to answer anything at all as long as it doesn't breach any promised confidentiality.

Satori
22nd January 2022, 17:36
soldiers on top secret missions are whipping out their phones, filming classified info and then letting it be distributed. Which doesn't happen, because no-one wants to spend 30 years in a military prison.

Does anyone think that the guy giving the talk isn't aware of at least one phone pointing at him, even looking at it?
If this was a classified meeting, then that wouldn't be happening....

That was an informal BS session in a break room. Many of the soldiers were not even in full uniform. Nothing official about it at all.

I saw the 82nd airborne patch (AA for “All American”, of which I was a member) on the speaker who drew the aliens on the board. This may have taken place at Fort Bragg, NC. Another reason I say that is because the speaker also had the burgundy colored beret or garrison cap that the 82nd wears. I could not make out the speaker’s rank, but I don’t believe he was an officer. I think he had the rank of sergeant, ie, E-5 or so.

Mare
22nd January 2022, 17:36
My impression was that the soldier shooting the footage may have been pretending to skim through his phone while secretly filming, or just held it in his hand matter-of-factly while secretly filming. The soldier talking and drawing the aliens does not appear to register being filmed at any point. When he leaves the room, the cameraman then makes it obvious to his friend that he’s still filming, and the friend covers the phone up with his hand.

When the cameraman says “it’s going on YouTube” the other soldiers appear to know what he’s talking about.

My gut feeling is that it it is genuine and they’d planned it between themselves beforehand. I think it’s a really interesting video, but I wish I could see those drawings more clearly!

Tyy1907
22nd January 2022, 18:07
Surprised I havdn't seen that yet, been on ytube for 9 years

Interesting, in an ominous forboding sort of way

RunningDeer
22nd January 2022, 18:32
but I wish I could see those drawings more clearly!
This is the best I was able to grab.


https://i.imgur.com/fymSilD.jpg

Mark (Star Mariner)
22nd January 2022, 21:03
According to the account, “It is reported that after President Ronald Reagan watched a special screening of ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind,’ he privately spoke to Steven Spielberg and said, ‘You don’t know how true this really is.’”


I remember that story, and I'm pretty sure it was ET (the movie). Close Encounters came out in '77, four years before Reagan was president.

At 4.20, he says 'go online and look up the Majestic 12'.. That's a bit curious - it doesn't sound like he knows much of the inside scoop if he's telling them to look things up online. Maybe he's not that high up, in fact I very much doubt he is. It's more likely (if genuine) this is trench talk.

It is an interesting video, just a little suspect... A 'too good to be true' sort of thing. I wonder where this has been for 10 years. It's totally new to me.

Can anyone identify the uniform and say what rank he is, or even what branch of the military he serves in? I cannot imagine top brass would've been very pleased with this leak, if it is genuine. Heads would no doubt have rolled for such loose-tongues on such sensitive, super top-secret information. I guarantee camera phones would've been banned from this day forward!

bobme
22nd January 2022, 21:12
I can only speak for myself here. but I have seen many non human individuals in my times.

also many crafts in the sky that were of many different shapes.

The only thing that I noticed, is they do not want to be seen for some reason of their own.

When there intent is to remain hidden, to all, how can it be trusted? As the government is now. Always to hide, but never to tell.

Hide and lie. I just do not understand that,in my own understanding of life. maybe I am not thinking correctly.

I guess I just do not know.

RunningDeer
23rd January 2022, 00:50
I wonder where this has been for 10 years. It's totally new to me.

One place it’s been for the last 10 years is uploaded @ the saso stoj (https://www.youtube.com/user/sasoli100/videos) YouTube channel. (see post #12 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117597-Footage-Showing-US-Soldiers-Talking-About-Various-Alien-Beings&p=1477566&viewfull=1#post1477566))

http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/read-paper.gif
Full disclosure, Mark, my brain is operating in literal mode today.

Johnnycomelately
23rd January 2022, 02:10
That was an informal BS session in a break room. Many of the soldiers were not even in full uniform. Nothing official about it at all.



Satori I think you nailed it. Ranking enlisted guy giving a morale-building fun thing for his men. Right to those 2 guys at the end saying they believed him completely, this was fun for all of them. E-5 (I don’t know) held it together throughout, and shot back some answers like he knew quick answers would be expected for face in a joking situation.

I’ve seen similar banter while working on oilfield drilling rigs, when the crew got together in the doghouse or the truck. F-word count was sometimes significantly more with some crews than this/here tho lol.

Command requires preparation, hence (to me) the pulling Serpo out his a**. 😜

CurEus
24th January 2022, 01:30
Although interesting this does not strike me as a "briefing" and the presenter just seems like an average person that spends quite a bit of time down the rabbit hole. He is really only promulgating "popular" theories but does not speak from a position of experience or formal training in these areas....

At best he has spent a bit too much time watching Ancient Aliens, but I DO LIKE that the soldiers are not hostile or dismissive of the information he shares. They seem curious.Yes, it wasn't anything formal. (Or else it'd not have stayed on YouTube for 5 minutes!) It sounds like an Army instructor was just adding some personal thoughts about ETs to what maybe had been a formal briefing on something totally different.

But some of his responses really did seem like he knew something. (For instance, the ETs who had "moved to Serpo after a war" is nothing that's ever been anywhere on the internet. I'm quite sure of that.)

Of interest, Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' told Kerry Cassidy and myself that he had actually once attended a formal briefing on the entire ET situation. All he told us (my close paraphrase from memory) was that it was extremely intricate and complicated, he could hardly remember most of it, and the guy who presented it "must have had an IQ of 190" to present it all.

I have always liked Henry Deacon, he is one witness that always struck me as honest and credible...I expect, but cannot confirm, that through my grade school years, that the "testing" we received for advanced of "gifted" placements into special classes were a means to identify potential future assets for various agencies and interests. I KNOW the Rhodes and Fullbright scholars in Oxford were definitely hand selected and groomed from very early on. and we now are aware of the WEF "future leaders" program for young politicians...

It stands to "reason" that the truly useful and MANY of the "best and brightest" would be a very high priority to many interests, both for good and for ill. IF Henry Deacon was impressed by someone's intellect I would probably be in awe. I have come across about 4 people that I consider to be supra genius level intellects...I was legitimately frightened by 2.

I have a learning disability ( of sorts) commonly referred to as ADHD. The "upside" is that many of us can oddly enough "hyper focus" on rare ocassion but it is really only when the "stars align" as it is a convergence ( in my experience) of fear, stress, panic, adrenaline surges and a few other things...in that instance we can process enormous amounts of information and achieve great leaps of logic nearly instantly. It is as if every neuron is perfectly aligned and firing at 1000%.

I was told during testing they are referred to as "flashes of brilliance"....."flashes" as they are not sustainable.

Now I met one of the geniuses that "upset and scared" me INTO a hyperfocused state...and we ended up in an argument. Even unnaturally exceeding the peak of my ability, enhanced well BEYOND my usual capacity...I felt like an intellectual gnat. Truly insignificant. I am a candle...he is a supernova.

As with things ADHD at times like these it is no longer "thinking" it is projecting...subconscious processing is "faster" than "thinking" and his position and conclusion was clear. Uncomfortably so. Reality snapped back into sharp focus and so was my realization.

I think I just met the most dangerous person in the world, and he has no clue whatsoever how completely alien he is. And I do not mean ET or EBE I just mean just totally alien as in totally unrecognizable and nigh on impossible to relate to.. Great lesson in humility!

Often wondered if he is what Autists WOULD be if they were not interfered with by vaccines or other compounds....almost like Savants that are not just limited to ONE perfunctorily area with accompanying debilitating deficiencies.

and......back to my point...If HD, whom I consider to be orders of magnitude smarter than me, asserts that he encountered someone brighter than he is.....well, we do live in interesting times!....I'm just waiting for another Tesla, Cayce to pop up!

To clarify, I am of the opinion that yes indeed once someone is beyond 135 or so IQ they ARE orders of magnitude smarter...almost exponentially so. Oddly most supra geniuses work at relatively menial "jobs" doing pretty much nothing. Genius and motivation are not twins. Thankfully... :)

CurEus
24th January 2022, 01:35
I can only speak for myself here. but I have seen many non human individuals in my times.

also many crafts in the sky that were of many different shapes.

The only thing that I noticed, is they do not want to be seen for some reason of their own.

When there intent is to remain hidden, to all, how can it be trusted? As the government is now. Always to hide, but never to tell.

Hide and lie. I just do not understand that,in my own understanding of life. maybe I am not thinking correctly.

I guess I just do not know.

I am not certain they care. BUT they may have an agreement to be "discreet" hence screen memories, loss of memory or the notion that if they are too visible the entire planet would erupt into chaos making their "harvests" challenging..or they may self impose "stealth" activities on their own. But I believe some of "them" are actually "us" from here and now...it's nice to be able to blame "aliens" when you are actually abducting and experimenting on your own citizens.

s7e6e
27th January 2022, 01:38
My conclusion is that the footage is choreographed and meant as a hoax. The sergeant is most likely the local conspiracy theorist, mixing bits of publicly available information. The "leak" is also approved and supports the alien agenda narrative.

What's really concerning is the ever decreasing amount of effort put in convincing the public, reflecting the deplorable state of mankind's collective intelligence and intuition.

Tyy1907
27th January 2022, 02:25
This video is 10 years old lining up with the stated year of 2012. A ton of views for the type of video it is I thought. And where have I been, not seen it before?

What struck me initially was when they talked about the Reptilians and how he said something about fighting them. I've heard of the good et bad et plan before. The "goods" being the Nordics and Greys and the bads the Reptilians.

They also said how the Sergeant had seen the Greys before. Clearly some of them couldn't accept this info.

There may have been some foreshadowing here.