How the West was Won Revisited: A WWIII Scenario

[9ideon]

How the West was Won

by 9ideon:

How the West was Won revisited. Based on a couple of years old Games and Theory post I did on my old site.

The expansion of Nato has been angering Russia for a good 20 years now, despite Western promises not to expand into the former Warschau Pact and Sowjet states after the fall of the USSR. The West broke their promises when they understood that Yeltsin was basically only interested in drinking, not taking care of Russia, so they just did what they would have done eventually and that is expanding anyway into former Warschau Pact countries.

Analysts in the West were worried though, what if someone would stand up and got Russia back on track? The West would again have to deal with a stronger opponent that they would like, China being on the rise too in the early '90's.

Well, the rest is history unfolding as we speak, I mean I kinda do not have to go into it any further.

At this stage it’s out in the open, conflict is looking at Ukraine, troops are positioned, so called representatives of the Peoples of all (Western) countries involved are stirring up their People (Civilians exposed to Propaganda through Mainstream media) into accepting a War with Russia. Putin’s not some idiot so, what is going on behind the various curtains? Not sure, but if I were to destroy the West, I would do it a little different than just being obvious.

How?



Well… look here, look here thoroughly and think not much of me when you do.
--9ideon--

Yes, I believe that the Ukraine is a very smart diversion, a real one none the less. Right now they are playing chess, one party however has strategic advantage.



The chess-board is the world, the pieces are the phenomena of the universe, the rules of the game are what we call the laws of Nature. The player on the other side is hidden from us.
-- Thomas Huxley –


What is happening now is that the US and the UK are committing troops to Eastern Europe, spreading their troops even thinner despite Generals in the US warning for this strategic mistake for a long time now. Therefore it wouldn’t make sense for Analysts inside Russia’s alliance and the Allies China, Iran, Northern Korea, Cuba and Venezuela not to take note of that issue and strategise around that, to me at this stage the West and its propaganda has been replaced by false arrogance and underestimating anyone but themselves.

Articles from around 2015, and no, it has not really changed much despite Afghanistan and Iraq being pulled out of. Why, because this has been a Topic since at least the ‘80’s.


Recent Articles Warnings Generals US:

https://nationalinterest.org/feature...too-thin-15979

https://www.businessinsider.com/a-ma...true&r=US&IR=T


1984 Article:

https://www.csmonitor.com/1984/0801/080115.html

https://i.postimg.cc/8zqnbWwD/Picture1.png


So pieces are moved into certain areas, now let’s talk about China for a little while, what are they doing at the moment? Well, besides building a new Silk Road setup, they're also very busy making Pakistan a military force by throwing tech and weapons at them, now why would that be?

Pakistan:

Older Article:

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...erhouse-135137

Very recent article (couple days OP):

https://eurasiantimes.com/china-to-a...s-india-sh-15/

The Modern Silk road project (water and land setup):

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/...oad-explainer/

There are reports China is building military bases along this newly created “Silk Road” story much as the likes of the Roman Empire had back in the day, this “road” would extend all the way up to Turkey.

https://www.rangoonpoint.com/documen...military-bases


Other locations of Military Bases in that Region of Asia:


https://i.postimg.cc/DwXc7z3w/Picture2.jpg


African Influence:

https://i.postimg.cc/qM09SWPY/Picture3.jpg


Caribbean:

Mostly investments, however, at least 2x1 Allies, Cuba and Venezuela.

https://i.postimg.cc/PrX8J5GM/Picture4.jpg

Obviously there’s the South Chinese Sea as well, as well as the neutrality (expected) of Indonesia and the Philippines (not anymore) in case of conflict with Nato. If that would to be fact it would present the Anzacs with a huge problem in case of War.

Bored now, so, foreplay has been a blast, lets rumble.


Hence that general is skillful in attack whose opponent does not know what to defend; and he is skillful in defense whose opponent does not know what to attack.
-- Sun Tzu –


Gonna let Russia invade Ukraine first (Yes, yes has to be done for this scenario Mashika, lol).
The Block Alliance (Russian Grand Alliance, China, NK, Iran, etc) will have been watching troop movements and is happy to notice that Nato is falling for their trap.

Russia invades Ukraine.

Biden flees underground thinking their plan is working fine (not happened yet).

The Greedy Western Leaders truly figured their latest bluff would deter Putin from attacking Ukraine, however, they are confident they can protect the Eastern European borders, more troops are positioned over the 1st 72hrs up to around 10 days of war (this time frame has passed by now and we're approaching my initial time frame of 14 days, which is probably going to be passed by as well, Russia seems to be withholding use of certain modern gear). By this time the Ukraine has been completely overrun by Russian troops.

Nato has to respond (war is declared) and starts bombing Russian targets. More land-forces are flown in.

Point of no return has been reached.

Nato leadership is happy to report that Russian troops have been halted by Nato forces along the old WOII Eastern front line.

Then the "Plan" comes to life. Various Countries will now attack targets across the globe, making it very hard for Nato to make soup out of where to do troop deployments on such short term.


The Plan:

The following will all happen at the same time, all at once so.

China invades Taiwan and Northern India, Pakistan joins China into attacking India on the Western border..

**India became a Wildcard at Ukrainian Invasion**

India has sided with Russia on the Expanding of Nato issue. India is now currently being pressured by US (the bullies they are).
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In case India chooses to side with Nato.

Myanmar might join Block Alliance Forces. The attack on India will also see Iranian Support, naval and air force being used. Block Alliance Naval forces will engage Nato Naval forces in the Persian Gulf, support Chinese AF from bases located in Africa and the Arab Sea.


https://i.postimg.cc/L6jYxgtR/Picture5.png

Northern Korea invades Southern Korea.

Northern Korea gets troops from China and some Russian troops. Chinese and Northern Korean navies are now pounding on Coalition ships.

Anzacs are in trouble since they have to bypass the neutrality of Indonesia and the Philippines (not any more), this resulting in the fact that they will arrive on the battlefield too late, how very British of them ;-).

Venezuela and Cuba invade the Antilles.

This is purely tactical as well as controlling the region and waters around Western Africa and Eastern South America. Chinese Naval ships will now have a straight strait towards the Latin countries. Remember there's a port in Western Africa we know of, there's probably couple more.


Misc:

Northern Korea has positioned their subs. They cut the Atlantic cables between Europe and the US, their Pacific fleet will do the same for US and Asian cables. Northern Korean Subs will now attack coastal Pacific and Atlantic US targets (seismic bombs, missiles, drone swarms).

Seismic Bombs will be positioned and used, causing Tsunamis on Western, Eastern and Island (Hawaii Islands) United States.

Russia moves hidden fleet (in the open for while now) to Alaskan region in order to control the seas.

Russia now starts an offensive from the Arctic into Canada & Alaska. Canadians cannot hold Russian troops advancing.

Japan is continuously bombed by this stage. After the securing of the Area they will be submitted into surrender, remaining US troops are captured. No invasion plans are made since Japan is still traumatized by the 2 nuclear bombs which were dropped on them in WOII, as Japan is the only country in the World familiar with that trauma they will capitulate logically. In the meantime the South Chinese Sea will provide as a block towards any Coalition naval forces.

The Russian Northern Alaskan Navy (I am under the impression there's a hidden fleet around the Laptev Sea, Russian Icebreaker Ships are something else) destroys the US naval capacity in and around Alaska (there’s hardly any fleet up there, has been budget cut while back, another thorn in Navy Brass eye), moving Southwards to join up with Chinese forces to invade the Hawaiian Islands neutralizing the remaining US Fleet in that region, now outnumbered, forces are too stretched and potentially damaged by the artificial Tsunamis (seismic Bombs).

In the original scenario I had Russia take Alaska from the US as punishment, kinda like a physical psy-op, after the US/Canadian fleet was destroyed at Alaska.

Northern Korean attacks (Subs) on mainland US are demoralizing troops fighting away from home.

Northern Korean Submarine fleet is a huge problem for Western intelligence, logic dictates that these subs will be manned by brainwashed crews whom don’t care dying for the state. There's loads of them and Coalition Intelligence can't seem to account for all of them at any given time when a crisis involving Northern Korea is happening.


Northern Korean Subs:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/j59m...ollowing-truce

Turkey will now join the Block Alliance.

Erdogan will now betray Nato as per design and agreement made with Block leadership ages ago, Erdogan knows that it will only be a matter of time before they'll loose interest in him and have him removed as well (like many Dictators the US needs for some plan, coup attempts actually happening right now), because of the Turkish swap, they become the stabilizing factor in that region towards Iraq and Syria.

Turkey moves into Greece securing the strait of Bosporus (from counter attacks by land and sea) and taking on Greece and the Balkans in order to join up with Russia at Bulgaria, securing the entirety of the Black Sea. Turkey is joined by troops from Iran and other Block Alliance Troops (Land-Naval-Air).

Georgia, despite trying to attract the attention of the West, will now declare themselves neutral, only to be annexed by Russia later on (punishment).

Serbia will start an offensive from opposite direction.

Wild Card Hungary (Big Cheese of Hungary HATES psycho fam Soros), Hungary might join the Block with the promise of regaining lost land (Occupied by Ukraine).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians_in_Ukraine

Nato is not able to counter the Southern European Invasion due to the Turks defending that same border from Block forces. Europe falls back into bickering and diversion, greed can only take one so far. One by one countries on the Eastern European border will capitulate, except for Poland.

https://i.postimg.cc/LX8pMzrW/Picture6.jpg

Israel in the meantime has been bombing targets and mobilizing their People to expect the worst. No invasion of Israel is happening, Putin will not allow Israel to be destroyed for obvious reasons. The Block Alliance makes a deal with Israel instead, Israel ceases to be a participant in this war (might happen soon).

World War III is now in full effect.

All the other self-proclaimed Elitists are now fully enjoying their underground facilities build for them (this is Worldwide) by taxpayers money, the same People left to fend for themselves. These so called friends of freedom surely do not have any family members dying in their fabricated war, kinda backfiring on them now. Nevertheless they are celebrating their ingenuity deceiving the entire World, their psychological make up does not allow for these poor excuses for Human beings to accept any reality going against their fabricated realm, much like how the World works right now for real.

Civilians all around the World start entombing them inside their precious shelters. US patriots taking point. The truth about Biden and his psychopathic masters is now for the World to see (seeing is starting to happen more and more now).


Theory and Games:

Obviously this is all theory and games, but surely the only way to ensure complete chaos. There is no way of knowing right now what most Southern American and African countries are going to do, but the main tactic of attacking this many targets around the World is to ensure that dominance of the Nato pact is broken, not only that, the secondary object is always the USA.

You really think most NCO’s will want to stay in a foreign country to fight when the States themselves are being attacked? These Soldiers are also Brothers, Sisters, Husbands and Wives to People Stateside, it will demoralize them. Obviously some sort of attack on the US is not done by ground-forces, that would be nuts, simply by throwing as many missiles, offensive drones-warms and strategically placed seismic bombs on coastal areas as possible, the ones remaining (subs) can now refuel in the Carib and respectively Hawaii.

Is this the reason for increased Northern Korean Missile tests in the 1st Month (up to now) for this year, is there a EMP attack planned as well (rocket into atmosphere doing boom, gotta have nuclear ordnance)?

Bonus:

World War III is now in full effect.

"They" will now show up, as a thief in the night, destroying "Evil" (yes, them narcissistic psychopaths too will be sacrificed (despite promises made) for claim to throne), Mwahahahaha.

Yahweh, being his own (narcissistic psychopath) Messiah (meaning Dragon or Snake in Ancient Hebrew) will proclaim "himself" God creator of the Universe before being exposed as Father of all Lies.


Obviously I could be completely wrong about all of this.

[9ideon]

Mods, is it possible to change the title to the following? (How the West was Won Revisited: A WWIII Scenario) I tried, don't think we can for some reason. Thx in advance.

:-)

[9ideon]

Is this a sign that an Invasion is imminent (within 6 weeks from this post) or is Putin Trolling Biden and puppets?

Putin Pulls Yacht from German Shipyard.

Vladimir Putin's superyacht has been spotted sailing towards Russia after 'fleeing' from a shipyard in Germany, sparking speculation that it was trying to avoid being impounded by tough sanctions that would be imposed if Moscow invaded Ukraine.

The Russian President's yacht set sail from the Blohm+Voss shipyard in Hamburg on Monday and had arrived in the Russian enclave Kaliningrad by midday on Wednesday, according to the ship tracking website Marine Traffic.

The £73.2 million yacht, called 'Graceful', was seen sailing through the Kiel Canal a few hours after leaving the Port of Hamburg before heading out to the Baltic Sea.

German media suggested Putin's 270ft vessel was 'fleeing' Germany amid the Ukraine crisis, with Bild newspaper saying the move 'was obviously an escape for fear of being arrested'.

They referenced UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss, who has threatened to introduce tough sanctions and told Putin and his allies they will 'have nowhere to hide' if Russia invades Kiev.

Source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10494251/Putins-superyacht-spotted-sailing-Russia-fleeing-German-shipyard.html

[1212is24]

People don't like to talk about war, and that's fair enough, but it's rather futile to think that we can live without war in our lives. I think it is the nature of reality. Conflict enables us to evolve. Through competition, we become better. Otherwise, we become complacent. I've become so incensed by the nonsense over this whole Covid thing. It's changed my worldview so much. People I used to respect and trust the opinions of now look down upon me, as though I am some kind of leper in society. Why? Because I am not vaccinated. I try to explain the reasons why but it doesn't matter. Now that I am basically not allowed to go out and mix with society (which I would obviously never do with a fake certificate :bigsmile:), I am left with a very bad taste in my mouth. The PRINCIPLE is what bothers me the most. I am told that I will go to prison for 3 years if I use a fake vaccination certificate. There are so many logical, toxic flaws in this whole situation right now, I am fed up to the point where I think, "come on, everyone, wake up and back me up here" ... And many do, God bless them. And many don't. And they're so idiotic, it makes me think, you know what? You are a coward. You are an absolutely weak human being. I see how they think. I see how they process information. Their decisions are ALWAYS aligned with taking the easy route -- the one that seems beneficial for THEMSELVES, and ONLY THEMSELVES.

It made me realise, oh my God... This is why dating is such a horrific venture these days. Most people meet online (wtf?)... They use photoshopped photos to lure someone in, and communicate in a very deceitful way to try and attract someone... And I always thought men were shallow (because I am one, and we are), but women seem even more so. I know this because I am in good physical shape and I used one of these apps, with some carefully chosen photos, and it was too easy to have so many girls who wanted to go on a date. I went on a few. Some ghosted me afterwards (probably after I started speaking facts they weren't used to LOL), and I found this whole ghosting concept weird. I would never do that, I thought. Then I did it a few times. Then it was normal. Now, it is normal. We are a generation of ghosters. We don't commit. We value superficial qualities over substance. We don't care about being good at anything, we care about looking good.

It's become such a cultural cesspit. I had no idea until the last few years. I always had an inkling but I could never describe it. I deleted Fakebook years ago. I never liked it. Social media is ridiculous. Now, it's even worse. And beyond that, look at how they censor people these days. You can't even oppose the narrative in any way these days. It's become so transparent and pathetic, it has all hit me like a tonne of bricks lately. I am glad that many others have seen this happening too, and they aren't happy about it, but we seem to be few and far between.

Things move fast nowadays. We need to be able to create structure very quickly when we try to analyse things. Some very bright minds have been working on developing algorithms to decipher all of these abstract variables -- many of which would fly so far under the radar of most of our minds that we wouldn't even THINK about them consciously. They are simply there. Our habits. Our tendencies. Our thoughts. It seems like we are all tracked in such a way that our data profiles are constantly being refined to categorise us all. I often think, "I hope they put me in the category of 'dangerous/disobedient' types"... But I don't even think such a category exists. They have so much power with these algorithms. They can simply remove anyone from the pool who shows any remote signs of not following the narrative. And this is becoming obvious, everywhere.

I could go on about this all night. The point I am getting to is this: f-ck the west. I am living here. I love the people I know. But this is BULLSH!T. I think, you know what? Let China take over. Let Russia take over. GOOD! And if I was ever expected to fight in a war against them I would LAUGH in their faces. If they forced me to go and "fight" the first thing I would do with a gun is point it at myself. F-ck this. I HATE LIARS. I hate this fake society we are living in. I hate it how people think it's normal and okay to think there are 27 genders, that all white people are racist, that all women are mistreated by all men, all of these polar concepts designed to DIVIDE us. All the propaganda.

It makes me sick. And the more I learn about history, I'm not going to lie. There are so many obvious historical flaws about certain things. But we can't talk about that. Right? That's how it is. I won't even go there, and I promise you, I never thought I'd even consider saying (or thinking) what I am currently alluding to. That may be an indication of how well-indoctrinated I am by the world I have been brought up in. In any case, that's an area I will NEVER dive into because it is stupid and doesn't align with my philosophy anyhow, but it's also annoying how we can't even talk about it openly without being immediately criticised for certain things. For the record, I never have "gone there" in conversation with anyone and I never will. It makes me wonder though. History is definitely written by the winners and I am "proud" to be on the winning side, I guess?...

Whenever someone tells me why Putin is a bad guy, I ask why. No matter who they are, they ALWAYS tell me two things, and if I dig further they can't tell me anything. The same thing happened when I asked people about Trump. I never even liked Trump, but the moment I started asking why he was bad, I became bad. It's like, "Hate him or I will hate you"... Then I started realising, holy hell, this is how most people think. It's not only scary, it's absurd. Anyway, why is Putin a bad guy?
1. He's KGB (whatever that is, I am not even old enough to know to be honest)
2. He once brought a dog to a meeting with Angela Merkel -- knowing that she has a fear of dogs

I immediately think... What kind of self-respecting person has a fear of dogs? I'm biased though. I love dogs. But I also think fear is a catalyst for change, in many respects, and I don't see how anyone of sound, rational intellect could possibly maintain a fear of such a lovely animal, especially one that is undoubtedly well-trained and domesticated. How can I respect one's ability to make proper decisions if they maintain a fear of dogs? A man like Putin would have his dog well and truly under control. It's ridiculous. We are constantly told by the modern atheistic, "I f-cking love science" idiots to be rational and not let our emotions get in the way of our judgements, and yet we still have to accept that someone in a powerful leadership position has a fear of dogs. I'm not trying to obsess over the issue here now because of my huge love for dogs, but I am trying to make a point... How can everyone criticise Putin so much for that reason? Why can't we criticise that b!tch for not liking dogs? That's how I see it. Not politically correct. But, dogs? F-cking hell !!!!

Look, I know Putin tends to wipe out his opponents in quite a swift, remorseless manner but lately I have been also think: Good. The society I live in is built upon lies. People using every tricky method possible to try and manipulate me, to try and control me, and it's very insulting to my intelligence when they dismiss me for calling them out. Maybe we need more Putins in the world. If someone wants to call me out for speaking facts, safe in the knowledge that they are protected by this politically correct system that is full of lies, maybe it's better if we just set the tone here and now: no. You die. Seriously. That's how I feel right now.

I may change my stance. I don't even understand what is going on with Ukraine. I don't really buy the idea that Russians and Ukrainians don't get along. I think something sinister is at play here, just like it was in Yugoslavia. They turned people against each other in those countries -- many of whom never had any issues with each other, and right now they don't either. You've got to ask yourself, how did that happen? Why did that happen? I once visited Croatia and I saw some graffiti on a wall in a Croatian town, as I sat on my boat with a big hangover, I read: "PISS OFF NATO" and I thought "Aren't NATO the good guys? Didn't you guys (Croatia) decide to start a fight?" ... I never forgot that moment. It was a little trigger in my consciousness to think more deeply about things and not believe everything I'd been told. I always knew things didn't add up because in Australia we have immigrants from every Balkan country and they all get along well. It may sometimes be awkward between them in terms of ethnic tensions, but that was designed by someone else, surely. I can't explain this either. Anyway, I think I've vented enough now. I hope others are willing to discuss this topic. It's relevant and important. And you've made some very thought-provoking points. Thank you.

[9ideon]

People don't like to talk about war, and that's fair enough, but it's rather futile to think that we can live without war in our lives. I think it is the nature of reality. Conflict enables us to evolve.mouth. (Rest in Post above) It's relevant and important. And you've made some very thought-provoking points. Thank you.

Can't say I do not agree with you, can't really add to those thoughts, except the Croatian comment, the mainstream thought is that the Serbs started all of it, they'd be correct (technically Yugoslavia did though). However, the latter stages of the War all the parties were doing their Warcrime thing, that was not just the Serbs.

[Merkaba360]

Well, if the world war was not the cabal's theatre to some extent, then I doubt this block alliance could beat North America, most of South America, Europe, India, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, parts of africa and whoever else joined forces. (Assuming a non-nuclear war.) The real threat of loss is the cabal sabotaging the Nato forces from within.

Nato and company is just too much money, power, resources, people, development, war experience, etc.

In reality, I dont know that any of it is realistic, since technically whichever of the big countries is losing could just start a nuke fest in retaliation. then its just so crazy at that point, I probably don't care the outcome cuz its just too horrific to want to be a part of such a horror world.

Also, there has never been a war between nations/alliances that are both nuclear enabled. It just seems like that scenario is so new and serious that we must bring in other possible factors. It kinda seems possible that ET's would get involved in such dire circumstances. Whether from the shadows or finally coming on stage. The latter would be interesting how that kind of shock could really affect our psyche's and possibly even stop the war.

I dont know. Who knows. But, a future world war should bring all kinds of secret tech and other hidden things to the surface.

I wonder if some countries leadership would align with the Block Alliance, but the people revolt and refuse. For example, Im friends with some Iranians and vietnamese. The vast majority of the people are opposed to their system. The Iranian people are quite smart and more sophisticated than I previously knew. A lot don't give a damn about islam and such. It seems that there is a chance that they would not want to fight alongside communism.

Of course I never want to see these terrible scenarios played out. Only if we could see the results in some different timeline. It would be really interesting and so much to learn from it.

[1212is24]

Well, if the world war was not the cabal's theatre to some extent, then I doubt this block alliance could beat North America, most of South America, Europe, India, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, parts of africa and whoever else joined forces. (Assuming a non-nuclear war.) The real threat of loss is the cabal sabotaging the Nato forces from within.

Nato and company is just too much money, power, resources, people, development, war experience, etc.

In reality, I dont know that any of it is realistic, since technically whichever of the big countries is losing could just start a nuke fest in retaliation. then its just so crazy at that point, I probably don't care the outcome cuz its just too horrific to want to be a part of such a horror world.

Also, there has never been a war between nations/alliances that are both nuclear enabled. It just seems like that scenario is so new and serious that we must bring in other possible factors. It kinda seems possible that ET's would get involved in such dire circumstances. Whether from the shadows or finally coming on stage. The latter would be interesting how that kind of shock could really affect our psyche's and possibly even stop the war.

I dont know. Who knows. But, a future world war should bring all kinds of secret tech and other hidden things to the surface.

I wonder if some countries leadership would align with the Block Alliance, but the people revolt and refuse. For example, Im friends with some Iranians and vietnamese. The vast majority of the people are opposed to their system. The Iranian people are quite smart and more sophisticated than I previously knew. A lot don't give a damn about islam and such. It seems that there is a chance that they would not want to fight alongside communism.

Of course I never want to see these terrible scenarios played out. Only if we could see the results in some different timeline. It would be really interesting and so much to learn from it.

I kind of think, when I die, I will enter a big room full of people I love and they will all be laughing at me, and they will be asking me how I managed to stick around here this long.... Like this whole experience was one big video game and I made it past too many levels. They will tell me they had "game over" way sooner and can't believe I reached the point of a war. And I will explain it all to them like it was a big dream, and as we all know, nobody ever cares when you try to tell them about your dream (or maybe everyone I have ever tried to tell about my dreams has always been a c.u.n.t which is also likely).... But I will explain it all to them like, "no, but, you don't understand, this big war was starting and people were waking up after this and that and... oh and then it was over, and I'm here now, and you're laughing at me, so.... What's for lunch, mother f-ckers? It's good to be back." And that's it. That's life. (Spoiler alert?)

[9ideon]

Putin is Clowning JB and Nato Civvies. In other words, it's coming. Russia has offered Political solutions last Tuesday, I figure that was the last offer, there's no other way, if Mexico were Ukraine, well, JB would already have invaded, feck talks, you know, I mean the US has been at war 92% of its existence, coincidence? I guess not, US People are great, their so called leaders? Well...

Russia-Ukraine live updates: Russia adds as many as 7,000 troops, US official says

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/russia-ukraine/?id=82467772

A while back someone posted about the 7 steps or something similar, I guess pulling back troops couple days ago was step 6, adding again, well could be step 7, buttuhh, this is looking down barrel level.

:-)

[9ideon]

(OP) Israel in the meantime has been bombing targets and mobilizing their People to expect the worst. No invasion of Israel is happening, Putin will not allow Israel to be destroyed for obvious reasons. The Block Alliance makes a deal with Israel instead, Israel ceases to be a participant in this war.

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What is going on behind closed doors?

[9ideon]

(OP) the main tactic of attacking this many targets around the World is to ensure that dominance of the Nato pact is broken.


Ukraine I – Putin’s real goal is to destroy Nato

Putin is exactly where he wants to be: at the centre of world attention. His aims and objectives are well known: to restore Russia to Great Power, or even Superpower, status; to frustrate the policies of the US and its allies, and to regain influence or control over the ‘near abroad’ – that is, the former Soviet republics of Europe and Central Asia. He has shown his commitment to the first objective by rebuilding the Russian armed forces in size and capability over the past ten years, using oil and gas revenues and effectively mobilising a much smaller GDP than that of most Nato countries. He has shown, also, his commitment to the third objective most recently in his intervention in Kazakhstan, hitherto considered an ally by the US. His involvement in Ukraine has been considerable since the disastrous EU intervention there and all the broken promises that followed the signing of the Minsk Agreement – no wonder he is mistrustful.

Source (Full Article):

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/ukraine-i-putins-real-goal-is-to-destroy-nato/

[Spiral]

For me one of the arguments that they would have the upper hand in such a conflict is the weaponry, the Russians make thing that work, that do the most they can possibly do with what they are, where as in the west & the US in particular it's more about the money made by anyone & everyone that can get on the gravy train, the F35 being a case in point, there are more, it's a long tradition going back to the outdated B17s in WW2 & the APCs the troops sat on the roofs of in Vietnam, (because it was safer that being inside them).

In the UK we have ships so sophisticated that they are always being mended...

On the other side;

The latest Russian tanks are phenomenal, and we know they have the means to disable US electronics from aircraft.

The Chinese have anti ship ballistic missiles that nothing can stop.

Don't want to derail the thread with this, but it wouldn't be too hard to draw up lists.

[9ideon]

For me one of the arguments that they would have the upper hand in such a conflict is the weaponry, the Russians make thing that work, that do the most they can possibly do with what they are, where as in the west & the US in particular it's more about the money made by anyone & everyone that can get on the gravy train, the F35 being a case in point, there are more, it's a long tradition going back to the outdated B17s in WW2 & the APCs the troops sat on the roofs of in Vietnam, (because it was safer that being inside them).

In the UK we have ships so sophisticated that they are always being mended...

On the other side;

The latest Russian tanks are phenomenal, and we know they have the means to disable US electronics from aircraft.

The Chinese have anti ship ballistic missiles that nothing can stop.

Don't want to derail the thread with this, but it wouldn't be too hard to draw up lists.

It's all about the elements of surprise, the main issue is not only that but Manpower too. Russia, China and NK have weapons (especially the sonic tech of the Chinese) which are further developed than our own ones. Iran for instance, has had Nukes since at least 1988, they cannot make 'm, but they've got a couple. The only way the Block Alliance will stand a chance is if they smear out the war over the entire Planet, Nato cannot ever keep up with it and I do not expect many Latin countries to get involved, Africa will be divided but most likely a lot of them will choose to back Russia and China. The ones siding with Nato will probably be unable to get involved anyway, not sure about Safr, depends on the mood of things I guess, maybe some Safr members can elaborate on this.

I guess if this is it we'll see if the other things pan out as well, I am really excited about right now, things besides the other ones are coming together, thus all sides of coin coming together, I hope it is for real because it means light at end of tunnel. I don't think I can take another delay.

[The Moss Trooper]

I'm surprised that I've not seen this posted yet.

At this point there is no absolute confirmation that this is Syria.............. But I'll post what is available over at Jim Stone:

Look at the clouds. This is a huge event, off in the distance, twice as tall as the clouds.

48463

That is not the sun providing full daylight, that is a nuclear blast. The second nuclear blast. It is lighting up the mushroom cloud from the first nuclear blast, this event happened in the dead of night as seen in the below video.


The voice in the video is saying something that means something different in several languages. Also, when I went over the weather in various places there are several candidates that match that amount of snow on the ground, and that much melt on the road. There are really only two possibilities here, Syria (because it could be kept a secret) and Siberia (but the snow melt is not quite right for that) but it could be kept secret and send a message to the west at the same time. I don't know where this was, if the media was honest we'd know. This would be on every TV everywhere if the media was honest. Who owns the media? Well, that's who's not being honest. That puts Israel nuking Syria right on top of the list of possibilities.

There is video of this over at Jim's site at this link

http://82.221.129.208/1/.tp6.html


If this is an event that has happened in the last couple of days, and if this shows the event as portrayed......... Then there is some serious sh!t going-down elsewhere, and as we all should know by now, the age old tactic of "look over here, not over there" is in full effect.

Israel taking advantage of the World being distracted by the Russian/NATO shenanigans?

[Spiral]

I'm surprised that I've not seen this posted yet.

At this point there is no absolute confirmation that this is Syria.............. But I'll post what is available over at Jim Stone:

Look at the clouds. This is a huge event, off in the distance, twice as tall as the clouds.

48463

That is not the sun providing full daylight, that is a nuclear blast. The second nuclear blast. It is lighting up the mushroom cloud from the first nuclear blast, this event happened in the dead of night as seen in the below video.


The voice in the video is saying something that means something different in several languages. Also, when I went over the weather in various places there are several candidates that match that amount of snow on the ground, and that much melt on the road. There are really only two possibilities here, Syria (because it could be kept a secret) and Siberia (but the snow melt is not quite right for that) but it could be kept secret and send a message to the west at the same time. I don't know where this was, if the media was honest we'd know. This would be on every TV everywhere if the media was honest. Who owns the media? Well, that's who's not being honest. That puts Israel nuking Syria right on top of the list of possibilities.

There is video of this over at Jim's site at this link

http://82.221.129.208/1/.tp6.html


If this is an event that has happened in the last couple of days, and if this shows the event as portrayed......... Then there is some serious sh!t going-down elsewhere, and as we all should know by now, the age old tactic of "look over here, not over there" is in full effect.

Israel taking advantage of the World being distracted by the Russian/NATO shenanigans?

Neither of those are nuclear blasts, the "mushroom cloud" is on top of a hill (and not that far away), & the other thing is merely bright, like phosphorous or something, a nuke would white out everything & the emp would take out the digital camera.

The so called snow looks like sand to me.

My money is on this being an old pic from desert storm & no nukes have been used, nukes are last resort not opening move IMHO.



That said it could well be the Israelis taking advantage & bombing their latest worry to oblivion.

[The Moss Trooper]

I'm surprised that I've not seen this posted yet.

At this point there is no absolute confirmation that this is Syria.............. But I'll post what is available over at Jim Stone:

Look at the clouds. This is a huge event, off in the distance, twice as tall as the clouds.

48463

That is not the sun providing full daylight, that is a nuclear blast. The second nuclear blast. It is lighting up the mushroom cloud from the first nuclear blast, this event happened in the dead of night as seen in the below video.


The voice in the video is saying something that means something different in several languages. Also, when I went over the weather in various places there are several candidates that match that amount of snow on the ground, and that much melt on the road. There are really only two possibilities here, Syria (because it could be kept a secret) and Siberia (but the snow melt is not quite right for that) but it could be kept secret and send a message to the west at the same time. I don't know where this was, if the media was honest we'd know. This would be on every TV everywhere if the media was honest. Who owns the media? Well, that's who's not being honest. That puts Israel nuking Syria right on top of the list of possibilities.

There is video of this over at Jim's site at this link

http://82.221.129.208/1/.tp6.html


If this is an event that has happened in the last couple of days, and if this shows the event as portrayed......... Then there is some serious sh!t going-down elsewhere, and as we all should know by now, the age old tactic of "look over here, not over there" is in full effect.

Israel taking advantage of the World being distracted by the Russian/NATO shenanigans?

Neither of those are nuclear blasts, the "mushroom cloud" is on top of a hill (and not that far away), & the other thing is merely bright, like phosphorous or something, a nuke would white out everything & the emp would take out the digital camera.

The so called snow looks like sand to me.

My money is on this being an old pic from desert storm & no nukes have been used, nukes are last resort not opening move IMHO.



That said it could well be the Israelis taking advantage & bombing their latest worry to oblivion.


Hence my bolding of the word if.......... I know Jim like's to get in with the worst case scenario first, and is certainly no fan of certain factions of the jewish faith.

At this point though, and in these crazy times, nothing would surprise me.

As you were.

[lake]

I'm surprised that I've not seen this posted yet.

At this point there is no absolute confirmation that this is Syria.............. But I'll post what is available over at Jim Stone:

Look at the clouds. This is a huge event, off in the distance, twice as tall as the clouds.

48463

That is not the sun providing full daylight, that is a nuclear blast. The second nuclear blast. It is lighting up the mushroom cloud from the first nuclear blast, this event happened in the dead of night as seen in the below video.


The voice in the video is saying something that means something different in several languages. Also, when I went over the weather in various places there are several candidates that match that amount of snow on the ground, and that much melt on the road. There are really only two possibilities here, Syria (because it could be kept a secret) and Siberia (but the snow melt is not quite right for that) but it could be kept secret and send a message to the west at the same time. I don't know where this was, if the media was honest we'd know. This would be on every TV everywhere if the media was honest. Who owns the media? Well, that's who's not being honest. That puts Israel nuking Syria right on top of the list of possibilities.

There is video of this over at Jim's site at this link

http://82.221.129.208/1/.tp6.html


If this is an event that has happened in the last couple of days, and if this shows the event as portrayed......... Then there is some serious sh!t going-down elsewhere, and as we all should know by now, the age old tactic of "look over here, not over there" is in full effect.

Israel taking advantage of the World being distracted by the Russian/NATO shenanigans?

Neither of those are nuclear blasts, the "mushroom cloud" is on top of a hill (and not that far away), & the other thing is merely bright, like phosphorous or something, a nuke would white out everything & the emp would take out the digital camera.

The so called snow looks like sand to me.

My money is on this being an old pic from desert storm & no nukes have been used, nukes are last resort not opening move IMHO.



That said it could well be the Israelis taking advantage & bombing their latest worry to oblivion.

To quote carmody from 2018 (and while the first video is still on youtube, the second I had to upload from when I saved it from carmodys post .... (btw Yemen 2015 for the video explosion)
~~~~

This goes back further than most think, or, more properly, it is more widespread and universal in US politics than is presented here.

Somone gave the House of Saud tactical nukes. And one of those tactical nukes was used in Yemen. The signature of a tactical nuke is one of 'scintillation', where the CCD's in digital cameras (the imaging device) will respond to various forms of radiation. This is so well known, that there are apps for turning your cell phone into a rudimentary Geiger counter (radiation counter)

uQi-gpoK0ps


xGTTrXb6jcc1

This is apparently a neutron bomb, some say. To clarify, you don't see this in older footage as older footage was all recorded with actual film, which does not respond the same way to radiation exposure. The CCD in your cell phone camera is unique in how it responds, with the white flashing bits of the given pixels, being the 'trademark' show and tell of radiation exposure of the CCD..

The point of mentioning this, again is not just a Trumpain attack vector as issues go.... but one of wide ranging long standing involvement and complicity across the board, for many many decades. For this tactical (apparently neutron) nuke happened on Obama's watch.

Which means, in my opinion... that Trump and Obama are not really in charge of much of anything, and it is the people who faces and names you don't know and have probably not ever seen...who are really in charge.

Also, it is known these types of devices have short lifespans and require quite regular maintenance, and often. They must be periodically refreshed. They can't just sit dormant for a decade and be used. Even a year or so, is a problem, from some reports. They basically break themselves down from their own radiation bombardment, in some designs. Basically, they required and do require a continual level of expert monitoring and maintenance. So whomever had the bomb or bombs, also has and has continual and highly advanced/ongoing support, during any given possession of said hardware. No one is going to show someone how to build them, is my guess, so the support personnel had to have boots on the ground before and during such use of said device - and come from a very high and deep level.

There are other potential scenarios, like having possession of said device and knowing it is going to go bad over time, so use it, someone might have said. Regardless, using tactical nuclear devices in the middle east was very unwise. Unbelievably unwise. Cellphones are ubiquitous, so explosions will be rerecorded... and the scintillation will be witnessed and shared. Just as we have seen here.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104733-Here-A-Khashoggi-Saudi-Arabia-thread--&p=1255545&viewfull=1#post1255545

[The Moss Trooper]

I'm surprised that I've not seen this posted yet.

At this point there is no absolute confirmation that this is Syria.............. But I'll post what is available over at Jim Stone:

Look at the clouds. This is a huge event, off in the distance, twice as tall as the clouds.

48463

That is not the sun providing full daylight, that is a nuclear blast. The second nuclear blast. It is lighting up the mushroom cloud from the first nuclear blast, this event happened in the dead of night as seen in the below video.


The voice in the video is saying something that means something different in several languages. Also, when I went over the weather in various places there are several candidates that match that amount of snow on the ground, and that much melt on the road. There are really only two possibilities here, Syria (because it could be kept a secret) and Siberia (but the snow melt is not quite right for that) but it could be kept secret and send a message to the west at the same time. I don't know where this was, if the media was honest we'd know. This would be on every TV everywhere if the media was honest. Who owns the media? Well, that's who's not being honest. That puts Israel nuking Syria right on top of the list of possibilities.

There is video of this over at Jim's site at this link

http://82.221.129.208/1/.tp6.html


If this is an event that has happened in the last couple of days, and if this shows the event as portrayed......... Then there is some serious sh!t going-down elsewhere, and as we all should know by now, the age old tactic of "look over here, not over there" is in full effect.

Israel taking advantage of the World being distracted by the Russian/NATO shenanigans?

Neither of those are nuclear blasts, the "mushroom cloud" is on top of a hill (and not that far away), & the other thing is merely bright, like phosphorous or something, a nuke would white out everything & the emp would take out the digital camera.

The so called snow looks like sand to me.

My money is on this being an old pic from desert storm & no nukes have been used, nukes are last resort not opening move IMHO.



That said it could well be the Israelis taking advantage & bombing their latest worry to oblivion.

To quote carmody from 2018 (and while the first video is still on youtube, the second I had to upload from when I saved it from carmodys post .... (btw Yemen 2015 for the video explosion)
~~~~

This goes back further than most think, or, more properly, it is more widespread and universal in US politics than is presented here.

Somone gave the House of Saud tactical nukes. And one of those tactical nukes was used in Yemen. The signature of a tactical nuke is one of 'scintillation', where the CCD's in digital cameras (the imaging device) will respond to various forms of radiation. This is so well known, that there are apps for turning your cell phone into a rudimentary Geiger counter (radiation counter)

uQi-gpoK0ps


xGTTrXb6jcc1

This is apparently a neutron bomb, some say. To clarify, you don't see this in older footage as older footage was all recorded with actual film, which does not respond the same way to radiation exposure. The CCD in your cell phone camera is unique in how it responds, with the white flashing bits of the given pixels, being the 'trademark' show and tell of radiation exposure of the CCD..

The point of mentioning this, again is not just a Trumpain attack vector as issues go.... but one of wide ranging long standing involvement and complicity across the board, for many many decades. For this tactical (apparently neutron) nuke happened on Obama's watch.

Which means, in my opinion... that Trump and Obama are not really in charge of much of anything, and it is the people who faces and names you don't know and have probably not ever seen...who are really in charge.

Also, it is known these types of devices have short lifespans and require quite regular maintenance, and often. They must be periodically refreshed. They can't just sit dormant for a decade and be used. Even a year or so, is a problem, from some reports. They basically break themselves down from their own radiation bombardment, in some designs. Basically, they required and do require a continual level of expert monitoring and maintenance. So whomever had the bomb or bombs, also has and has continual and highly advanced/ongoing support, during any given possession of said hardware. No one is going to show someone how to build them, is my guess, so the support personnel had to have boots on the ground before and during such use of said device - and come from a very high and deep level.

There are other potential scenarios, like having possession of said device and knowing it is going to go bad over time, so use it, someone might have said. Regardless, using tactical nuclear devices in the middle east was very unwise. Unbelievably unwise. Cellphones are ubiquitous, so explosions will be rerecorded... and the scintillation will be witnessed and shared. Just as we have seen here.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104733-Here-A-Khashoggi-Saudi-Arabia-thread--&p=1255545&viewfull=1#post1255545



Scintillation, on a mobile phone........ At 35 miles?

Those Apple products sure are good.

[9ideon]

I'm surprised that I've not seen this posted yet.

At this point there is no absolute confirmation that this is Syria.............. But I'll post what is available over at Jim Stone:

Look at the clouds. This is a huge event, off in the distance, twice as tall as the clouds.

48463



To me that nuke explosion looks like taken from a game (pic), in any case, not real imho, Spiral is right and tbh, we'd know by now.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gQgs9yi06bk/hqdefault.jpg
Source: Francesco, Aug 5, 2009

The Neutron Bomb thingy, nah, fake crap, well explosion might be real, but these are not neutron bombs exploding, reminds me a bit of that Lebanon harbor explosion, in any case, thx for the posts though, there's bound to be some real stuff coming about soon if we're to believe the mainstream propaganda.

Nuke compared to the one dropped on Imperial Japan (Blast radius).

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/oiprreTbAvwnWM05zMLQ5Q_tUgg=/0x0:658x469/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:658x469):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/5880159/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-06%20at%209.38.09%20AM.png

This is the blast radius of Ivy Mike — the first (but not the most powerful) hydrogen bomb ever tested:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/d8rQs8xBYQDdGQ7zOAapqIsZHZE=/0x0:855x627/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:855x627):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/5880161/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-06%20at%209.39.34%20AM.png

If that vid would have been of a Neutron Bomb, well, they'd all be dead before you can hear BOOOM BABY, lol. ;-)

Source:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2016/1/6/10723918/whats-a-hydrogen-bomb

[1212is24]

RI7pCwC38-8

[9ideon]

(OP) China invades Taiwan

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_pacific/2022-02-24/taiwan-fighter-jets-airspace-chinese-aircraft-ukraine-russia-5134525.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwan-casts-wary-eye-china-amid-ukraine-crisis-no-immediate-alarm-2022-02-23/

it might just happen sooner.

[Docim369]

Interesting how many similar view I share with you. But there are probably many members here on board with much similarity involved...
Yes the war in Yugoslavia did not come from the people. As confessed by some intelligence puppets, the politicians of the former country were blackmailed (and probably also threatened) to spread hate speech among "their" people, firing up hatred and fear.
I will never forget the first Slovenian president, Milan Kucan, who, when he witnessed in court against a Serbian leader, who was later accused of genocide, was completely out of himself, testifying in fear and guilt consciousness. Got me thinking that none of these people are "clean" or not involved. They are used as puppets for the puppet masters.
The same going on here in this alleged Russia-Ukraine conflict. I think the question is who is behind all this. But many of us sense the answer, not the people or the politicians.

[9ideon]

Interesting how many similar view I share with you. But there are probably many members here on board with much similarity involved...
Yes the war in Yugoslavia did not come from the people. As confessed by some intelligence puppets, the politicians of the former country were blackmailed (and probably also threatened) to spread hate speech among "their" people, firing up hatred and fear.
I will never forget the first Slovenian president, Milan Kucan, who, when he witnessed in court against a Serbian leader, who was later accused of genocide, was completely out of himself, testifying in fear and guilt consciousness. Got me thinking that none of these people are "clean" or not involved. They are used as puppets for the puppet masters.
The same going on here in this alleged Russia-Ukraine conflict. I think the question is who is behind all this. But many of us sense the answer, not the people or the politicians.

As I recall Slovenia kicked Arse at the start of that "Civil" war. As I have been taught Tito put the Serbs in charge of the Armed forces (more less) to keep 'm happy. Those Officers became complacent and tried to invade Slovenia with Armor, they got send back home quite fast due to the fact that Armor and high mountains are not a good strategy. I have never been there, seen some docs, looks like a forgotten treasure, very beautiful country. I found Bosnia to look like France, but perhaps that was the melodrama of being a soldier, hehehehehe.

In case of Russia, Putin is his own puppet master. This is why they want to get rid of him, as they have gotten rid of many thorns in eyes the past 21 years. Saddam was convenient until he was more profitable as a scapegoat. Before they hung him he said something very interesting, despite him being told he wasn't allowed to say anything. He knew the game, not a good man though, not even starting about his Sons. When Trump took office (and you can think what you want about him) it was panic for a good amount of People. their plan to destroy Russia and NK were thwarted immediately. Trump would never attack Russia for the very simple fact that there is no profit in it. So they smeared him being a puppet for Putin. Following his appointment he did something else which was interesting. See, NK is sitting on stockpiles of minerals worth several trillions, in the ground yes, the greedy wanted it (article link below). The only way they could see a win, win is to fool the masses into thinking it was a good moment to attack NK, it was under preparation under Obama and should have been carried out by Glibbery Clinton, but Trump got elected which was not supposed to have happened. What did Trump do? Instead of going to War he made a deal with NK, no loss of life and bottom line was met. In the meantime he was being attacked by fake media (mainstream) continuously whilst he should have gotten the Nobel peace price instead, I mean Obama took a dump and got one.

What is happening now is basically planned too, they let Ukraine fall for the support of the People, or does anyone think here that the US did not anticipate Putin Invading Ukraine at some stage? So, now they have their way. Mainstream Propaganda is doing their part, the People start to do what they do because they are mindlessly following what is fed to them, fact checking is not something high on any agenda anymore these days. Public opinion and various countries are now on their side, countries, surprisingly India condemns Nato for expanding further in Eastern Europe, I wonder if this sentiment is carried throughout the entire Indian parliament. In any case, they are doing the same thing they did to Saddam, the scenario is a little different, but the fall guy this time is Zelenskyy.

What remains now is interesting to observe, because if I am right Nato (USA) needs to carry out their own agenda, they wanted a war with Russia, now's their chance.

And thanks for your reply, I enjoyed reading it.

Article Minerals NK: https://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-stockpile-minerals-worth-trillions-2017-6?international=true&r=US&IR=T

[Eva2]

'Today, February 24th, 2022, liberal globalism officially collapsed. The whole geopolitical project beginning in 1991 with the fall of the Soviet Union and Francis Fukuyama’s neo-con fantasy of the end of history, where he envisioned that the entire world would now turn to a global neoliberal order that has since culminated in an epidemic of wokeness, that vision died last night, and Russian President Vladimir Putin killed it!'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAXWAA5GnEI

[Spiral]

Is this the real reason it's kicked off now after 7-8 years of neo-nazis "ethnic cleansing" Russians in Ukraine, don't know if this link is going to work it's a strange site. Go to "NATO's Dark Blueprint for virus Vaccine Warfare"

https://thefreedomcycle.com/covid/george-webb.html#:~:text=George%20Webb%20George%20Webb%20is%20an%20investigative%20journalist,and%20YT%20ha s%20been%20viciously%20culling%20his%20channel.

[Spiral]

Hmmm

https://news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Screen-Shot-2022-01-26-at-1.52.26-PM.png


Three Russian guided-missile cruisers have been arrayed across the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea to counter three NATO carrier strike groups, causing concern in the Pentagon, a U.S. defense official told USNI News on Tuesday.

As of Monday, the three Slava-class cruisers were operating in and around the Aegean Sea – RTS Moskva (121) in the Black Sea, RTS Marshal Ustinov (055) south of Italy and RFS Varyag (011) off the coast of Syria, near Russia’s naval base in Tartus.

Moskva is based in the Black Sea, while Marshal Ustinov traveled from the Northern Fleet and Varyag from the Pacific Fleet. Ustinov and Varyag entered the Mediterranean from opposite ends earlier this month.

The three 11,500-ton Slavas were designed around launchers that can hold 16 SS-N-12 Sandbox anti-ship cruise missiles – each about the size of a telephone pole. Developed in the 1970s, the Slavas and the Sandboxes were designed to take on U.S. and NATO aircraft carriers by overwhelming them with a barrage of high-speed cruise missiles to sink ships.



https://news.usni.org/2022/02/22/russian-navy-cruisers-positioned-to-counter-u-s-french-and-italian-carrier-groups-in-the-mediterranean#more-92306

[hm337]

As I recall Slovenia kicked Arse at the start of that "Civil" war. As I have been taught Tito put the Serbs in charge of the Armed forces (more less) to keep 'm happy. Those Officers became complacent and tried to invade Slovenia with Armor, they got send back home quite fast due to the fact that Armor and high mountains are not a good strategy. I have never been there, seen some docs, looks like a forgotten treasure, very beautiful country. I found Bosnia to look like France, but perhaps that was the melodrama of being a soldier, hehehehehe.

Tito was half Croat half Slovenian. Under his rule the borders of the republics were made such that Serbs were cut in several republics. He made new nations of Montenegers (who considered themselves elite Serbs in prior centuries) and Muslims (who are Slavic people basically mix of Serbs and Croat who converted to islam during Otoman empire. In 90s these Muslims took the name Bosniaks in order to make themsleves appear more native than Serbs and Croats in republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina. In same way Albanian intruders in southern part of Serbia took in 90s name Kosovars to make themselves appear more native to the area ).

Serbs were most numerous nation in Yugoslavia but they were not dominating in any area of life. Yugoslav army was made from officers that were from all nationalities not Serb dominated. In fact Serbs among army officers and politicians self identified as communists and Yugoslavs not Serbs.

War in Slovenia was not real war but more of media war. There was federal Yugoslav army with some communist and Yugoslav officers and recruits from all over Yugoslavia serving their duty in military bases in all parts of Yugoslavia also in Slovenia. We are talking about boys that are mostly 18 to 20 years old doing their military duty serving for one year in the army. After Slovenia declared independence Croat prime minister ordered these boys serving military duty to go out from military barracks and go to border post without ammunition symbolically showing that Slovenia is still Yugoslavia. What happened is that Slovenia that wanted to become separate state made its own army that started shooting on these young boys and sieged military bases in Slovenia in which these boys were stationed killing some of them in the process. There and across federal army military bases in Slovenia they were sitting ducks for new Slovenia army. Fake west mainstream media showed it aa a war for independence won by Slovenia while in reality it was slaughter of some young boys. After ten days or so decision was made to move these boys out of Slovenia to finish serving their military duty in less hostile parts of Yugoslavia.




What remains now is interesting to observe, because if I am right Nato (USA) needs to carry out their own agenda, they wanted a war with Russia, now's their chance.

NATO doesnot really want war with Russia at this moment because they cannot really win that war. They wanted Russia in war that will make it weaker and they are succesfully using Ukrainians for their proxy war with Russia ever since 2014. Forced intervention of Russia in Ukraine is all they wanted in order to demonize Russia and to put it under economic sanctions in order to weaken it even more.

War in Ukraine started in year 2014. when NATO made a "Euromaidan" cup to overthrow prorusiian leader of Ukraine Yanukovych. Ever since they had their puppets on power in Ukraine making it antirussian via control of massmedia and by introducing laws that discriminate russian speakers and prorussian political parties and in that way NATO was preparing the country for war with Russia which included arming them and providing them with military training and with paid dogs of war from all arounfd the globe. They made them want to join NATO knowing that Russia cannot accept that there are NATO balistic misles so close to Moscow in the country where 40% of people has russian as native language and 20% has as native language a language that is mix of russian and Ukraninian.

See it from Russian point of view. NATO installed Ukraine regime is assimilating prorussian people and turning them into antirussian people. It wants to make own nuclear bombs. It wants NATO bases so close to Moscow. If NATO is on your borders it means you have only several minutes to detect firing of ballistic missile and decide what to do about it, whether to press the red button or not. Analisys of Russians reached the conclusions that more they wait the worser the situation will become for them. They tried to negotiate with NATO and Ukraine during January, but their interest was not taken into consideration. Only thing they could do is attack while they can still save the situation. What would USA do if Mexico decided to have Russian bases with ballistic missiles close to their border with USA?

[9ideon]

Fake west mainstream media showed it aa a war for independence won by Slovenia while in reality it was slaughter of some young boys.

Why am I not surprised, should have known better. I guess this part of my life (being over there) made it very clear something was not right about this World.


NATO doesnot really want war with Russia at this moment because they cannot really win that war.

When I mention NATO or the UN I basically mean self proclaimed Elitists. I have no illusion that it's all hijacked. By now the Neo-Liberals have taken over many decision makers countries. The infection is so widespread these days that it is almost impossible to get something in between, the only way to destroy them is to turn their own system against them, Ghandi their arses, when their precious money system crumbles we can then declare all their bankaccounts and their currencies illegal.

But, that's just daydreaming, what I mean with that "they" want a war with Russia is basically because they are exempt of seeing failure. Yes, most of us, military background or People studying certain things well, know we cannot win against Russia and the Block, I was told many things by certain People during my time serving with them, Officers whom came from Cold War sits and worked on Sowjets and Warchau pact for decades. One thing they made surely clear, we couldn't win a war in Europe. That has not changed, still, they want a war. The plan was to infiltrate and destroy Russia from the inside, Ukraine was to become a integral part in this scheme. Soros's handprint was all over this, Hungary threw him out because of the same shenanigans. When Russia was destroyed from the inside, then they would install various puppets in the newly formed "Democratic" countries. China would have been in a lot of trouble because they'd be next to deal with.

Since Snowden destroyed that possibility, they stayed the course, war with Russia is now the only option left for them for the simple fact, if they do not act, eventually the Block will come. One of the things about the psychopathic psyche is control, when that many psycho's are stalled together working towards a common outcome, well, let's just say that they keep their make believe World intact by confirming nonsense to each other, as a result that same nonsense is dripping on to the general public, we can all see this happening around us, very frightening really, because we a re surrounded by People acting on emotions only (it does trigger when not a psycho I guess).

So yes, although I agree that sane People see that Nato can most likely not win a War, the self proclaimed elite does not see it that way, guess who must die in their futile wars? Yes, those same unfortunate cool aid gulpers. The Ukrainian People and their leader being served up as a possible excuse for that war they want.

[David Trd1]

What remains now is interesting to observe, because if I am right Nato (USA) needs to carry out their own agenda, they wanted a war with Russia, now's their chance.


This is the most chilling observation ive read here.

[9ideon]

What remains now is interesting to observe, because if I am right Nato (USA) needs to carry out their own agenda, they wanted a war with Russia, now's their chance.


This is the most chilling observation ive read here.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, one of those days I guess, but in any case, thx, :-)

[Spiral]

What remains now is interesting to observe, because if I am right Nato (USA) needs to carry out their own agenda, they wanted a war with Russia, now's their chance.


This is the most chilling observation ive read here.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, one of those days I guess, but in any case, thx, :-)

I've just read an article about how the US could have manoeuvred Russia into the invasion of Ukraine. I say "could" because it's theory, & from everything else we have seen from the US (gov, military, foreign relations etc) in recent years they just don't seem that smart tbh.

If this was their intention it's an extremely dangerous one that could backfire horribly esp if the Block countries decide they really have had enough of NATO & let rip re the original post on this thread.

It seems clear the US in it's "end of empire" days, lets just hope they don't take the planet out with them.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/crisis-ukraine-not-about-ukraine-about-germany/5770269

[9ideon]

What remains now is interesting to observe, because if I am right Nato (USA) needs to carry out their own agenda, they wanted a war with Russia, now's their chance.


This is the most chilling observation ive read here.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, one of those days I guess, but in any case, thx, :-)

I've just read an article about how the US could have manoeuvred Russia into the invasion of Ukraine. I say "could" because it's theory, & from everything else we have seen from the US (gov, military, foreign relations etc) in recent years they just don't seem that smart tbh.

If this was their intention it's an extremely dangerous one that could backfire horribly esp if the Block countries decide they really have had enough of NATO & let rip re the original post on this thread.

It seems clear the US in it's "end of empire" days, lets just hope they don't take the planet out with them.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/crisis-ukraine-not-about-ukraine-about-germany/5770269

I wouldn't be surprised, these plans are shelved, they have probably been cooked up ages ago, implementable at will. They have think tanks to cook up such scenarios, it be built around intent. For example; "Starting a war without beginning one". They'd be brainstorming scenarios. If my theory about this is right, then this has obviously been a b-plan, the original plan has always been implementing NATO in Ukraine and destabilizing Russia then create a clean take over and have the country carved up for controlling purposes. If that would fail they'd still need a backup plan in which they'd still come out as the saviors of Mankind. That's what could very well be as it is now.

And yes I feel you have a valid point by mentioning the Block becoming tired of Western two faced policies.

[Spiral]

What remains now is interesting to observe, because if I am right Nato (USA) needs to carry out their own agenda, they wanted a war with Russia, now's their chance.


This is the most chilling observation ive read here.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, one of those days I guess, but in any case, thx, :-)

I've just read an article about how the US could have manoeuvred Russia into the invasion of Ukraine. I say "could" because it's theory, & from everything else we have seen from the US (gov, military, foreign relations etc) in recent years they just don't seem that smart tbh.

If this was their intention it's an extremely dangerous one that could backfire horribly esp if the Block countries decide they really have had enough of NATO & let rip re the original post on this thread.

It seems clear the US in it's "end of empire" days, lets just hope they don't take the planet out with them.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/crisis-ukraine-not-about-ukraine-about-germany/5770269

I wouldn't be surprised, these plans are shelved, they have been cooked up ages ago, implementable at will. They have think tanks to cook up such scenarios, it be built around intent. For example, starting a war without beginning one. They'd be brainstorming scenarios. If my theory about this is right, then this has obviously been a b-plan, the original plan has always been implementing NATO in Ukraine and destabilizing Russia then create a clean take over and have the country carved up for controlling purposes. If that would fail they'd still need a backup plan in which they'd still come out as the saviors of Mankind. That's what could very well be as it is now.

And yes I feel you have a valid point by mentioning the Block becoming tired of Western two faced policies.

It's obviously an old plan because they have had this on the back burner all this time ......


On June 30, 1941 Stepan Bandera declared the formation of the Ukrainian State in Lviv. Stepan Bandera made his lieutenant Yaroslav Stetsko the Premier. After the war the Bandera groups formed their Government in Exile that was given quiet legitimacy by both the US and Canadian governments shortly after WW2.




https://web.archive.org/web/20150627201809im_/http://www.ukrainewar.info/the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of/

So, the aren't in fact "neo- nazis" they are the original item, it's been a continuous unbroken link of a movement from WW2 !

[9ideon]

What remains now is interesting to observe, because if I am right Nato (USA) needs to carry out their own agenda, they wanted a war with Russia, now's their chance.


This is the most chilling observation ive read here.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, one of those days I guess, but in any case, thx, :-)

I've just read an article about how the US could have manoeuvred Russia into the invasion of Ukraine. I say "could" because it's theory, & from everything else we have seen from the US (gov, military, foreign relations etc) in recent years they just don't seem that smart tbh.

If this was their intention it's an extremely dangerous one that could backfire horribly esp if the Block countries decide they really have had enough of NATO & let rip re the original post on this thread.

It seems clear the US in it's "end of empire" days, lets just hope they don't take the planet out with them.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/crisis-ukraine-not-about-ukraine-about-germany/5770269

I wouldn't be surprised, these plans are shelved, they have been cooked up ages ago, implementable at will. They have think tanks to cook up such scenarios, it be built around intent. For example, starting a war without beginning one. They'd be brainstorming scenarios. If my theory about this is right, then this has obviously been a b-plan, the original plan has always been implementing NATO in Ukraine and destabilizing Russia then create a clean take over and have the country carved up for controlling purposes. If that would fail they'd still need a backup plan in which they'd still come out as the saviors of Mankind. That's what could very well be as it is now.

And yes I feel you have a valid point by mentioning the Block becoming tired of Western two faced policies.

It's obviously an old plan because they have had this on the back burner all this time ......


On June 30, 1941 Stepan Bandera declared the formation of the Ukrainian State in Lviv. Stepan Bandera made his lieutenant Yaroslav Stetsko the Premier. After the war the Bandera groups formed their Government in Exile that was given quiet legitimacy by both the US and Canadian governments shortly after WW2.

http://www.ukrainewar.info/the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of (http://www.ukrainewar.info/the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of/)

So, the aren't in fact "neo- nazis" they are the original item, it's been a continuous unbroken link of a movement from WW2 !

That link is dead.





Mod note from Bill:
The article (published on 13 April 2015) has been taken down, but I found it on archive.org:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161001194653/https://ukrainewar.info/the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of

[Spiral]

That link is dead.

I've swapped the link, but not sure how long that will last, so I've cut & pasted the whole thing because it's too good to lose.

EU politicians that supported the Maidan Revolution are voicing concerns bordering on fear about how much control Ultra Nationalists have over the government in Kiev. Chancellor Merkel’s government is telling her she can no longer afford to ignore the Ultra Nationalists in Ukraine. They are scared Germany will be responsible for setting up a new Reich. It’s time to strip away the rest of the veneer and take a look at what’s really there.

Forget about the Nazi symbolism, and ultra-nationalist exuberance. I will even grant supporters of the current government that much.

Every important ministry, from education and social policy to policing, prosecution and national defense, is headed by Ultra Nationalists. In every aspect of national life, Ultra Nationalists now determine what it means to be Ukrainian and all the policies needed to enforce it.

Even Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk falls among this moderate majority. For generations his own family has had a proud tradition of service to the Ultra- Nationalist cause and has won awards for their service. Before Maidan it hurt his chances for election. After Maidan he didn’t need to worry about election.

What is Scary
In an OpEd in the LA Times, entitled “Ukraine’s Threat from Within,” Director of the School of International Relations at USC Robert English very concisely warns that “the way Ukrainian Ultra Nationalists whitewash Bandera history, which is their past, makes the present and future all that much more scary.”

The Banderas, or Banderites, are activists in the Ukrainian Ultra Nationalist movement that is now in control of the government in Ukraine. Under the militant leadership of Stepan Bandera in World War II, the ultra-nationalists organized the Ukrainian Waffen SS Galician, Nichtengall, and Roland Divisions that collaborated with the Nazis and were responsible for the genocide of over 500,000 people. Following the war, however, Ukrainian Nazis were the only group to escape trial at Nuremburg for crimes against humanity. Moreover, neither the Banderas, the Ukrainian Waffen SS, nor any other Ukrainian collaborators have ever apologized for their participation in genocide.

In the landmark work on the subject , Genocide Committed by Ukrainian Nationalists on the Polish Population During World War II, Ryszard Szawlowski characterizes it this way:

“…the Germans have long admitted to their crimes, and have apologized for them publicly …. [The] president of the Federal Republic of Germany, Roman Herzog, [said] in his speech in Warsaw on August 1, 1994 … ‘I bow before the fighters of the Warsaw Uprising, and before all the Polish war victims. I beg forgiveness for what the Germans did.’ Russian president Boris Yeltsin, when he kissed monsignor Zdzislaw Peszkowski on the hand, whispered the words ‘I apologize’ ….

“Ukrainian genocide committed against the Poles during World War II surpassed German and Soviet genocide …. [It] was marked by the utmost ruthlessness and barbarity, and … up until the present day, it has been denied or, at best, presented with reminders that all is “relative’ or other such evasions.”

According to Szawlowski’s description of the methods the Banderites employed against the Poles at Volhynia, treachery was the most frequently used. The Banderites told the Poles they were one people and family with them and that it would be treason if they left. The Bandera groups even promised to protect them–in writing!

What else separates the Banderas from every other genocidal perpetrator of the war is this: Even though the German SS had units dedicated to genocide, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) approached this mission with a zeal and barbarity that Hitler’s own units could not muster. They routinely tortured people with saws and axes, and used the most painful methods they could devise as means to kill them.

The Bandera would attack using “self defense groups” that were locally organized. These civilian Banderas were the main force used to attack and slaughter the Poles. If any of the massacre victims managed to survive, they were torched, robbed, and killed by follow-up groups of women and children.

Szawlowski’s work on the genocide committed by Ukrainian nationalists during World War II is brought up to date by the recent observations of Ukrainian Wiktor Poliszczuk.

“… he condemns the dangerous activities of the post-UPA [Ukrainian Insurgent Army] nationalists in present-day Ukraine, taking place not only in Lvov, but even in Kiev, ‘Galician Fundamentalism,’ and other such phenomena. Also criticized by him are the promoting of the totalitarian and genocidal doctrines of the Ukrainian Dmytro Dontsov, the erecting of monuments to the SS-men of the 14th Ukrainian SS Division “Galizien” (“Halychyna”), the OUN [Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists] and UPA leaders: Yevhen Konovalets, Andryi Melnyk, Stepan Bandera, Roman Shukhevych and others, and the glorifying of the murderers of Poles, Jews, Russians and Ukrainians as national heroes of the Ukraine, after whom streets and squares are named, awaking the spirit of the Dontsov and Bandera era, so much hated by people.”

This was written only a few years ago.

Every major scholarly work–a prime example is the papers of Pers Anders Rudling–show that the Banderas murdered 500,000 people without even the pretext of an apology. They have lied and tried to change history in an effort to make Stepan Bandera and the Waffen SS heroes of the Great War. Among other tactics, they have tried to petition the UN to reclassify Bandera and take his name off the UN’s list of leading Nazi collaborators and perpetrators of genocide.Legitimizing these men would irrevocably change the history of the Great War.

According to Huff Post ,

“Dmitri Yarosh, leader of Right Sector, met with Israel’s ambassador to Ukraine, Reuven Din El, and told him that their movement rejects anti-Semitism and xenophobia and will not tolerate it.”

Right Sector became famous at the beginning of the Euro Maidan protests and subsequent revolution. It serves as the umbrella group for the combined militant Ultra Nationalist groups that existed in Ukraine prior to the revolution and that insist on a pure Ultra Nationalist Ukrainian nation under the most rigid conformity to Stepan Bandera’s philosophy. Mr. Yarosh is the leader of Tryzub (Trident) which is the core Right Sector group. He has spent twenty years doing nothing else but preparing for the revolution that will sweep Ukraine’s government into extreme Ultra Nationalism.

Despite his words to the Israeli ambassador, Dmitri Yarosh has been very clear from his first interviews that he is guided only by Bandera’s writings and the writings of the group’s founding leaders. He adheres to nothing else. Mr. Yarosh is adamant about the fact that Stepan Bandera was not an anti-Semite.

Both the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the State of Israel accept at face value that, given Yarosh’s claim that Bandera was not an anti-Semite–a claim he himself believes–the Jewish community can now relax about any contemporary threat from Ukrainian nationalists.

But can the State of Israel, or Abe Foxman, chairman of the ADL, or anyone else sticking his fingers into this pie explain away the deaths of over 200,000 Jews at Banderite hands? No! The ADL describes its main purpose as fighting anti-Semitism and all forms of bigotry, and defending democratic ideals. Counterpose to that the entire history of the Ukrainian Ultra Nationalist movement, including its history of today. When you do, can there be any assurances from its representatives that don’t ring hollow?

Babi Yar

The thinking today is true to pre-WW2 form: “This can’t happen again.” Part of what is clouding the issue is the very Jewish backgrounds of some in the Kiev government–including Yatsenyuk. A few of the Oligarchs-turned-governors even have Israeli citizenship.

During WW2, Babi Yar was the single most horrific act of holocaust at the time. Even today, the Banderite response to Babi Yar is “I am proud of the fact that among 1,500 Polizei executioners in Babiy Yar there were 1,200 OUN men but only 300 Germans.” This quote is from a Rivne city official named Shkuratiuk, and appears in the book Organized Anti-Semitism in Contemporary Ukraine: Structure, Influence and Ideology by Pers Anders Rudling.

The atrocities at Babi Yar, and the accompanying brutality, were left to SS Nachtigall and the polizei. Both were Banderite. The reason was simple. The brutal work of genocide at this level made even hardened German SS uncomfortable. This fact is even obscured in the Holocaust Encyclopedia at the United States Holocaust Museum.

During the period September 29-30, 1941, the first massacre at Babi Yar killed over 30,000 Jews. Over the next few years the genocide piled up. Victims from the Roma (Gypsies) alone numbered almost 200,000. Banderite apologists have offered a range of rationalizations, from “Ukrainians suffered too” to the surreal “Bandera’s men stepped back and the Jews did it themselves.” No kidding. Babi Yar was racial suicide.

What separates Germany from the Bandera Nationalists in Ukraine is that Germany has taken responsibility for the atrocities they committed. Until recent events, they could say believably, “Never Again.” Contrast this to Lviv, Ukraine, where surviving members of the WW2 Galician SS, willing participants in genocide, still parade on holidays, proudly displaying medals given them by the German Third Reich.

Instead of apologies, the Ukrainian OUN/Banderites/UCCA offer apologetics and write handbooks on how to escape responsibility for grievous crimes against humanity. They paint themselves, quite literally, as both victims and heroes, not perpetrators.

Ironically, one such handbook is entitled “Genocide- NEVER AGAIN- The Teacher and Student Workbook”, printed by the UCCA (Ukrainian Congressional Committee of America) on the 75th anniversary of the Ukrainian Genocide. The “NEVER AGAIN” in the title is of course the cry of people that managed to survive the genocide. Can it also be used by the people that committed it, unrepentantly?

How can a group that unquestionably committed the most brutal torture and barbaric murder in WW2 morph into champions of social justice?

They continually deny involvement and try to convince the world of the same thing they teach their own people. They were victims and heroes. At the same time, they glorify their SS heroes at will. The 1st Division link is their homage to the Galician SS.

Typical UCCA Banderite propaganda looks like this:

“The only important OUN idea from the past that survived is a desire for a free and democratic Ukraine where all Ukrainians, regardless of their ethnic backgrounds, can live in peace.”

This response from a former Arizona UCCA state chapter president really needs to be considered in the light of history and present circumstances. That one statement says it all. The only question he leaves unanswered is, Who is a Ukrainian? Do they include all families that have lived there for hundreds of years and speak Russian? How about people that do not support Bandera?

How Does Bandera Fit in 70 Years Later?

On June 30, 1941 Stepan Bandera declared the formation of the Ukrainian State in Lviv. Stepan Bandera made his lieutenant Yaroslav Stetsko the Premier. After the war the Bandera groups formed their Government in Exile that was given quiet legitimacy by both the US and Canadian governments shortly after WW2. Part of this was due to their support during the cold war against the Soviet Union, and part due to the size of their lobbying effort. They pump a lot of money into Congress. That they were legitimized by the US Government is clear from all the released Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act documents I have come across.

It is very clear that the most important branches of the Diaspora government are in the US and Canada. Until 2003 the exiled leadership of the Bandera Government of Ukraine was only one step away from the person of Stepan Bandera himself. The supreme leadership of Bandera’s Ultra Nationalists worldwide changed hands twice after his assassination. Both supreme leaders had been his closest associates.

The first was Yaroslav Stetsko, Bandera’s Premier in exile. He took over control of the Ultra Nationalist Government in Exile on the death of Stepan Bandera and held the position until his own death in 1986. Upon his death, his wife Slava Stetsko took over the leadership role and lived to bring the worldwide movement home to Ukraine.

Most recognizable Ukrainian politicians, including Victor Yushhenko and Yulia Tymoshenko , are protégés of Slava Stetsko. This will explain why Mr. Yuschenko made Stepan Bandera a “Hero of Ukraine.” The EU sharply objected to this at the time, because of Bandera’s involvement in genocide, and Victor Yanukovych subsequently rescinded the award. That didn’t work out well for him.

The 1st generation Bandera government, which pledged fidelity to Adolf Hitler and committed rampant and brutal genocide that it still denies, was alive and well until 2003. It ruled and raised funds from the Ukrainian Diaspora, which constitutes a third of the Ukrainian population worldwide, or 20 million people.

Today, the Kiev government is only the 2nd generation of Bandera government. Looked at realistically, it still promotes the teachings, policies, and doctrines of Stepan Bandera less than 10 years removed from their institutional moorings.

The Bandera leaders of today were cultivated to make sure they would not stray far. The present government in Kiev can also be counted to be true to its history.

School Kids That Scare Me

One of the changes happening now in Ukraine is forced Ukrainization. If you remember Nazi history and the Hitler Youth, you’ll understand what Ukrainization means. It demands the same unquestioning loyalty from little children, a loyalty even greater than that to family.

What is forced Ukrainization at the pre school level ? Irina Farion was a favorite for the Minister of Education slot, until a discussion behind closed doors in the Senate. Sergei Kvit from Trizub (Yarosh core group), a real Ultra-Nationalist, got the nod instead.

Here is Irina Farion speaking to a little child: What is your name? Misha. It’s not Ukrainian. You are Mihailo!

And your name? Masha. You are Marusa. But my mom calls me this! If you want to be Masha, go to Moscow!

Don’t call other children Russian names. It is degrading. It’s like calling them an animal that lives in the woods and walks on all fours.

Imagine a government official speaking to children like this. Children are now taught that if they have Russian names they are second-class citizens. All of the children of Ukraine will grow up to be Ultra Nationalists. Those instilled with National Socialism will get a better education, a better job, a better life.

What Does This Mean for South and East Ukraine?

South and East Ukraine don’t want their children taught these things. Would you? Vladimir Putin and Russia are the only parties putting the brakes on that right now. The same Europe and America that 70 years ago violently overthrew the forces of bigotry and indoctrination are now saying that the Ukrainian people must accept them quietly!

Dmitri Yarosh (Trizub and Pravy Sektor, and Assistant Secretary of Council on Defense and National Security): “

It is better for us to build our own National State! Does that mean knives to the Moskals and ropes to the Jews? Well, not so unsophisticated. There must be a Ukrainian authority in Ukraine; the titular nation must dominate in business, politics, and culture…then–forced Ukrainization. Russians do not like it? Well, go back to F#cking Russia! Those that don’t want to go–we can help them. Russians are not even Slavs…. Next we will liberate our lands: Voronezh, Kursk, Belogorod Oblast, and Kuban. These are all Ukrainian lands!”

The only problem is all of these Oblasts (regions) are in Russia!

The East vs. West Debacle

No, I am not talking about the US and Russia. The spit propaganda that became western media portrays this as Cold War redux. Are you for the West? Good, you support democracy! Not so fast.

This was never about West Ukraine vs. Southeast Ukraine. Most of the time I have spent in Ukraine was in the West. They are the least represented people in media today, and they lose the most all the way around. They are also my friends.

Propaganda obscures the fact that in Ukraine the people that suffered most under Stepan Bandera lived in Western Ukraine. They became victims, because they were within his reach. Today, western Ukrainians are still the most vulnerable. Banderites stem from Galicia, and Lviv is their capital. Everywhere the Banderas are, people are beaten, robbed and murdered. Intimidation runs rampant.

Today, if the Bandera want legitimate representative government, why are they robbing every armory? Why did Dmitri Yarosh promise he would send a battalion of fighters to Donetsk to stop the protests? Got police?

Why did Banderas shoot unarmed men in Kharkov and Donetsk last night? They are not police and have no state authority. But like the masked Maidan people who are robbing banks across the country, they are left alone and, if caught, released.

Russia

The Russian invasion of Crimea took a turn for the weird yesterday. The Prime Minister of Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, directed Crimea’s volunteer militia to arrest any person they see that looks like a Russian soldier!

Crimean authorities have heard that Pravy Sektor is masquerading as Russian soldiers, trying to provoke conflict. The now official Ukrainian government organization tried to set off a bomb at a cafe in Crimea 2 days ago.

Russian soldiers are staying on their bases, as per the current agreement Russia has with Ukraine. Their “invasion” stopped at the gates of the military bases.

The West

This isn’t about East vs. West. The choice is simpler than that. It is about life and death. There are no compromises to make. If Kiev declares Stepan Bandera and all associated groups are illegal and genocidal war criminals, the southeast in Ukraine will relax. But, quite to the contrary, the first thing the Kiev government did was to make laws that legalized the teaching of Nazi propaganda. Without representation, they decided that 10 percent of people’s pay in the southeast would be taken without consent and given as support to the families of people that overthrew a constitutional government.

Ukraine is not West vs. East. They want you to make the same decision with them. Are you for a world ruled by Ultra Nationalists? Ukraine says no. Are you for a government that supports the doctrines of the 3rd Reich? Will you support one? Are you supporting one?

If the Ukrainian government that was propelled into power is not Ultra Nationalist, why are they making every move to show otherwise? Does the US government support Ultra Nationalist values? If not, why are they showing otherwise?

Clarification starts with both governments adhering to the rule of law. Otherwise, as I once heard someone I respected put it: “You can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day it is still a pig.”

[9ideon]

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[9ideon]

Seems that China is angry again over US Ships sailing through the strait of Taiwan. Normally they protest and all, this time however, well look for yeselves.

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[Spiral]

From RT ......China not going to tolerate an Eastern version of NATO


Beijing has warned the US against creating an Indo-Pacific version of NATO and supporting Taiwan While China has made it clear that there is no direct correlation between Ukraine and Taiwan, noting that Taiwan is an integral part of China, its silence on Russia’s use of force should give pause to those who may doubt Beijing’s willingness to resort to similar action when it comes to defending its own territorial claims.

As the US and NATO struggle to deal with the unfolding crisis in Ukraine, China’s Foreign Minister, Wang Yi, has issued a warning to the Biden administration not to repeat the mistakes made in Europe by attempting to create a Pacific version of NATO to contain and constrain China. Wang’s comments were made at his annual media conference as China convened the National People’s Congress, the country’s top legislative body, in Beijing on Monday. Calling such plans “perverse actions” that “run counter to the common aspiration of the region for peace, development, cooperation and win-win outcomes,” Wang declared that if they were implemented by the US, “they are doomed to fail.” Read more Australia demands China end ‘chilling silence’ Wang also criticized the US for expanding its ties, including military cooperation and weapons sales, with Taiwan. Such policies, Wang warned, “not only push Taiwan into a precarious situation, but will also bring unbearable consequences for the US side,” adding, somewhat ominously, “Taiwan will eventually return to the embrace of the motherland.”

China has made no secret about its claim to Taiwan, or its ambition to make good on that claim through any means necessary, including military force. While the prospects of any near-term military action by China against Taiwan have been viewed as remote, the Russian offensive in Ukraine has caused many observers to reconsider that position.

The Chinese concerns are not imaginary, but rather drawn from a direct reading of the guidance published by the Biden administration in the Spring of 2021. “Our democratic alliances,” President Joe Biden declared in his interim national security strategic guidance, “enable us to present a common front, produce a unified vision, and pool our strength to promote high standards, establish effective international rules, and hold countries like China to account.” “That is why we will reaffirm, invest in, and modernize the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and our alliances with Australia, Japan, and the Republic of Korea—which, along with our other global alliances and partnerships, are America’s greatest strategic asset,” he added. A plain reading of that text clearly shows that the US was pursuing a NATO-like alliance in the Pacific solely focused on the issue of “holding China to account.” It is in this light that one must view partnerships such as the “Quad”, a military partnership between the US, Japan, India, and Australia, and the newly constituted AUKUS alliance composed of Australia, the United Kingdom, and the US. Both organizations exist solely to coordinate a military response to China’s expansive presence in the Pacific region.

As if to drive home the point that it will not stand by idly while the US conspires against it, China announced on Friday it was conducting a week-long military exercise in the South China Sea, near the territorial waters of Vietnam. While the scope and scale of the exercise is limited—encompassing a six nautical mile radius—its messaging was clear: China is prepared to use force, if necessary, to defend its disputed territorial claims in the region. The announcement of the exercise came on the heels of a series of military moves near Taiwan, where the transit of a US naval vessel through the Taiwan Strait was countered by the sortieing of Chinese military aircraft into Taiwan’s air-defense identification zone.

Many experts and observers were surprised by Russia’s decision to intervene militarily in Ukraine. When it comes to China’s readiness to go to war over Taiwan, there should be no such uncertainty.

[9ideon]

From RT ......China not going to tolerate an Eastern version of NATO


Beijing has warned the US against creating an Indo-Pacific version of NATO and supporting Taiwan While China has made it clear that there is no direct correlation between Ukraine and Taiwan, noting that Taiwan is an integral part of China, its silence on Russia’s use of force should give pause to those who may doubt Beijing’s willingness to resort to similar action when it comes to defending its own territorial claims.

As the US and NATO struggle to deal with the unfolding crisis in Ukraine, China’s Foreign Minister, Wang Yi, has issued a warning to the Biden administration not to repeat the mistakes made in Europe by attempting to create a Pacific version of NATO to contain and constrain China. Wang’s comments were made at his annual media conference as China convened the National People’s Congress, the country’s top legislative body, in Beijing on Monday. Calling such plans “perverse actions” that “run counter to the common aspiration of the region for peace, development, cooperation and win-win outcomes,” Wang declared that if they were implemented by the US, “they are doomed to fail.” Read more Australia demands China end ‘chilling silence’ Wang also criticized the US for expanding its ties, including military cooperation and weapons sales, with Taiwan. Such policies, Wang warned, “not only push Taiwan into a precarious situation, but will also bring unbearable consequences for the US side,” adding, somewhat ominously, “Taiwan will eventually return to the embrace of the motherland.”

China has made no secret about its claim to Taiwan, or its ambition to make good on that claim through any means necessary, including military force. While the prospects of any near-term military action by China against Taiwan have been viewed as remote, the Russian offensive in Ukraine has caused many observers to reconsider that position.

The Chinese concerns are not imaginary, but rather drawn from a direct reading of the guidance published by the Biden administration in the Spring of 2021. “Our democratic alliances,” President Joe Biden declared in his interim national security strategic guidance, “enable us to present a common front, produce a unified vision, and pool our strength to promote high standards, establish effective international rules, and hold countries like China to account.” “That is why we will reaffirm, invest in, and modernize the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and our alliances with Australia, Japan, and the Republic of Korea—which, along with our other global alliances and partnerships, are America’s greatest strategic asset,” he added. A plain reading of that text clearly shows that the US was pursuing a NATO-like alliance in the Pacific solely focused on the issue of “holding China to account.” It is in this light that one must view partnerships such as the “Quad”, a military partnership between the US, Japan, India, and Australia, and the newly constituted AUKUS alliance composed of Australia, the United Kingdom, and the US. Both organizations exist solely to coordinate a military response to China’s expansive presence in the Pacific region.

As if to drive home the point that it will not stand by idly while the US conspires against it, China announced on Friday it was conducting a week-long military exercise in the South China Sea, near the territorial waters of Vietnam. While the scope and scale of the exercise is limited—encompassing a six nautical mile radius—its messaging was clear: China is prepared to use force, if necessary, to defend its disputed territorial claims in the region. The announcement of the exercise came on the heels of a series of military moves near Taiwan, where the transit of a US naval vessel through the Taiwan Strait was countered by the sortieing of Chinese military aircraft into Taiwan’s air-defense identification zone.

Many experts and observers were surprised by Russia’s decision to intervene militarily in Ukraine. When it comes to China’s readiness to go to war over Taiwan, there should be no such uncertainty.

The rhetoric in general towards the US and Allies has changed over the last couple weeks. What interests me is now that a couple countries seem to be done with the lies produced here so they are aligning themselves with Russia. India being the best example for now, they're probably still upset Apu got dropped from the Simpsons. No but seriously, all these countries taking a stance against "us", openly, it's like some of them feel a "moment" coming. It is very suspicious in a way.

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The rhetoric in general towards the US and Allies has changed over the last couple weeks. What interests me is now that a couple countries seem to be done with the lies produced here so they are aligning themselves with Russia. India being the best example for now, they're probably still upset Apu got dropped from the Simpsons. No but seriously, all these countries taking a stance against "us", openly, it's like some of them feel a "moment" coming. It is very suspicious in a way.

It certainly has changed, not just the likes of the BRICS countries either, Poland isn't doing what the US is telling them to do (do they honestly believe that the Poles have forgotten the Yalta Treaty ? LOL) & more tellingly Germany & the Netherlands have been very outspoken about not letting Ukraine into the EU in a way that takes a real swipe at the US (albeit in diplomatic language)

I read the text on RT but can't repost here due to the current fascist dictatorship laws to protect us from words.

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The rhetoric in general towards the US and Allies has changed over the last couple weeks. What interests me is now that a couple countries seem to be done with the lies produced here so they are aligning themselves with Russia. India being the best example for now, they're probably still upset Apu got dropped from the Simpsons. No but seriously, all these countries taking a stance against "us", openly, it's like some of them feel a "moment" coming. It is very suspicious in a way.

It certainly has changed, not just the likes of the BRICS countries either, Poland isn't doing what the US is telling them to do (do they honestly believe that the Poles have forgotten the Yalta Treaty ? LOL) & more tellingly Germany & the Netherlands have been very outspoken about not letting Ukraine into the EU in a way that takes a real swipe at the US (albeit in diplomatic language)

I read the text on RT but can't repost here due to the current fascist dictatorship laws to protect us from words.

This is an interesting development as well.

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I already mentioned it at the other topic, but it seems that there is something interesting going on and I do not think I am the only one noticing it.

Russia is not advancing as fast as they should, even with all the mainstream propaganda going on, they are not breaking the line as fast as they can. Like I said before, it is almost like they do not want Nato to see a modern Russian Army, the attack seems conventional and I do not think this has mainly to do with keeping as many civilians out of harms way. It is almost sinister in nature. Our propaganda machine is really working overtime on it too, they are basically saying Russia is not strong enough to win, Generals are not committed, soldiers are crossing back into Russia by the many etc.

It seems like it is becoming a thing, the lie might be on the way to become truth, which is very dangerous. Maduro said something (in the vid above this post) in his speech covered by Richard Medhurst, the plan was to attack when in a stronger position (*Nato), some Nazi was mentioning the carving up of Russia into 6 different states (at least). I have been saying this for a good few years now, yes I was not the only one, that this was the plan from the start and that Putin learned from it from the documents delivered by Snowden.

So, what if Russia is bating Nato into attacking by making them believe in the coming weeks that they are weak?

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I already mentioned it at the other topic, but it seems that there is something interesting going on and I do not think I am the only one noticing it.

Russia is not advancing as fast as they should, even with all the mainstream propaganda going on, they are not breaking the line as fast as they can. Like I said before, it is almost like they do not want Nato to see a modern Russian Army, the attack seems conventional and I do not thing this has mainly to do with keeping as many civilians out of harms way. It is almost sinister in nature. Our propaganda machine is really working overtime on it too, they are basically saying Russia is not strong enough to win, Generals are not committed, soldiers are crossing back into Russia by the many etc.

It seems like it is becoming a thing, the lie might be on the way to become truth, which is very dangerous. Maduro said something (in the vid above this post) in his speech covered by Richard Medhurst, the plan was to attack when in a stronger position (*Nato), some Nazi was mentioning the carving up of Russia into 6 different states (at least). I have been saying this for a good few years now, yes I was not the only one, that this was the plan from the start and that Putin learned from it from the documents delivered by Snowden.

So, what if Russia is bating Nato into attacking by making them believe in the coming weeks that they are weak?

One of the main features of a "classic Russian military move" is that they use their oldest hardware first, the opposite of the west where we go in with our newest & best & keep the old stuff in reserve "just in case", this seems to be following that tradition, a lot of very mundane hardware doing the heavy lifting

This is because of two other things possibly, one being that NATO gets zero info on the real performance of their best & newest hardware, esp the black project new energy weapon stuff we had a glimpse of in the Black sea a few years ago when they warned off the US navy with a single fly-by.

Putin has only committed 10% of his forces to the Ukraine, he's keeping his "powder dry" in case something happens on another front, such as the current NATO Baltic exercise going "live" https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/operations/arctic-and-northern-european-waters/baltic-protector IMHO.

I do think they are going slow to protect civilians, Putin seems vary aware of History & how he is going to look if he plays into the hands of the nazis who are using hospital, school & kindergarten buildings as bases & setting up their artillery close to housing blocs & in school yards.

The Ukrainians are coming up with endless BS to stop or shut down the humanitarian corridors the Russians have been trying to set up, basically because they are using the civilians as human shields, they don't want them to leave because they are the only thing between them & a bullet.

That said it looks like most of the nazis are now cut off & surrounded, the ball is in the Russian court.

I don't think the real military guys at the top of the various armed forces that make up NATO are in any way under any form of delusion about Russia's might, which is why the Polish mig game has gone nowhere. For me the worry is whether they can be pushed to do something stupid by our senile & corrupt so called leaders in a way that pulls us all in.

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I don't think the real military guys at the top of the various armed forces that make up NATO are in any way under any form of delusion about Russia's might, which is why the Polish mig game has gone nowhere. For me the worry is whether they can be pushed to do something stupid by our senile & corrupt so called leaders in a way that pulls us all in.

Well, there is something which has been bothering me a little, (yes, yes... again), that foreign legion Ukraine formed right.

https://visitukraine.today/blog/161/instruction-for-foreigners-on-how-to-join-international-legion-to-fight-for-ukraine

And now this. British Serviceman traveled to Ukraine. Yeah right.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60684749

This reminds me of People fighting for the Brits at the beginning of WOII, like in the movie Pearl Harbor with Jennifer Garner etc, whom were in foreign armed forces but volunteered. The setup now seems a modified version of this. It could very well be that something was going to leak and the Brits decided to get in front of it with a bs story now showing in that BBC piece. Not buying it.

This could very well be seen as some false plot by Nato to insert themselves (undermine Russian assets) somehow in this operation to prolong the invasion. Russia might decide that enough is enough,

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I don't think the real military guys at the top of the various armed forces that make up NATO are in any way under any form of delusion about Russia's might, which is why the Polish mig game has gone nowhere. For me the worry is whether they can be pushed to do something stupid by our senile & corrupt so called leaders in a way that pulls us all in.

Well, there is something which has been bothering me a little, (yes, yes... again), that foreign legion Ukraine formed right.

https://visitukraine.today/blog/161/instruction-for-foreigners-on-how-to-join-international-legion-to-fight-for-ukraine

And now this. British Serviceman traveled to Ukraine. Yeah right.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60684749

This reminds me of People fighting for the Brits at the beginning of WOII, like in the movie Pearl Harbor with Jennifer Garner etc, whom were in foreign armed forces but volunteered. The setup now seems a modified version of this. It could very well be that something was going to leak and the Brits decided to get in front of it with a bs story now showing in that BBC piece. Not buying it.

This could very well be seen as some false plot by Nato to insert themselves (undermine Russian assets) somehow in this operation to prolong the invasion. Russia might decide that enough is enough,

It's already known that some members of these neo nazi battalions are foreign, it has been said that some are mercenaries from a well known US company that deals in such things...

While the British army does actually have track record of certain groups of soldiers leaving the army only to engage in activities somewhere they shouldn't be, only to be back in the army shortly after said activities, I can't see that happening here. The Ukrainians need far too many men.

These types of guys aren't going to make any difference to anything https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60594223 it's just tragic they are so easily lead by the MSM lies & half truths.

From what I'm seeing on telegram, the Ukrainians are losing tanks, trucks, helicopters & every thing else at quite a rate, it's clear they are not only losing a lot of men but that men are running away & abandoning their kit, ammunition, tanks, missiles etc in the stuff sent by the US & the UK.

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From what I'm seeing on telegram, the Ukrainians are losing tanks, trucks, helicopters & every thing else at quite a rate, it's clear they are not only losing a lot of men but that men are running away & abandoning their kit, ammunition, tanks, missiles etc in the stuff sent by the US & the UK.

That's exactly the Western narrative as well, funny how that goes.

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From what I'm seeing on telegram, the Ukrainians are losing tanks, trucks, helicopters & every thing else at quite a rate, it's clear they are not only losing a lot of men but that men are running away & abandoning their kit, ammunition, tanks, missiles etc in the stuff sent by the US & the UK.

That's exactly the Western narrative as well, funny how that goes.

The thing is they post lists which could be made up, but then there are plenty of vids, columns of destroyed tanks, columns of burnt out trucks, abandoned bases, captured western arms etc etc

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From what I'm seeing on telegram, the Ukrainians are losing tanks, trucks, helicopters & every thing else at quite a rate, it's clear they are not only losing a lot of men but that men are running away & abandoning their kit, ammunition, tanks, missiles etc in the stuff sent by the US & the UK.

That's exactly the Western narrative as well, funny how that goes.

The thing is they post lists which could be made up, but then there are plenty of vids, columns of destroyed tanks, columns of burnt out trucks, abandoned bases, captured western arms etc etc

Like with that convoy, wouldn't be surprised if it is full of food, probably also the reason no one is trying to destroy it, we'll have to wait and see.

Perhaps the West is trying to make the People believe Ukraine is winning, when it turns out that was a lie, they can make up all kinds of peanutbutter (the one with bits in it) after, you know the horror lying type so they have an excuse to attack.

In any case, People I spoke, not like 100's, they all expect war. Even out here we see the Chinooks and Apache's (or type like) fly over, they never fly over.

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Am typing this post from my backup pc.

My pc got fried yesterday. It could however be a physical issue, or it was told to fry, I can't tell.

In any case, something made it so that my processors overheated without me noticing it. That pc is only 9.5 months old so.

Thought about going about my life not informing any of Ye on a whim, thing is, since I am not sure about the reason, I feel Ye all need to be informed about the possibility.

I'll keep ye updated if I find out more.

***Upd***

I have the pc back up for now, had to go into the thing. Hardly any dust, so that should not have been the problem. I am now testing how long the pc will stay up before it thinks it is overheating again, if nothing happens I guess it has been a misfortune thing. If there was some outside interference I am sure it was someone taking offense to what is going on here. I do not see myself as important enough for certain elements with 3 ltrs to have any interest in me.

In any case, if someone did target me and it will end up with my gaming pc being trashed eventually, I guess Mother Russia owns me a pc, lol.

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Intersting dev on Taiwan.

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They say the USA will supply arms, but I saw a report on telegram that said Taiwan had bought 8.1 billion dollars worth of arms, however the US has so far failed to deliver them....

Not 100% sure this is true, they are also saying the US has depleted its stockpiles of certain armaments supplying Ukraine

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They say the USA will supply arms, but I saw a report on telegram that said Taiwan had bought 8.1 billion dollars worth of arms, however the US has so far failed to deliver them....

Not 100% sure this is true, they are also saying the US has depleted its stockpiles of certain armaments supplying Ukraine

Might be a diversion, if not it might already show the warning done since the '80's, to far spread, which includes providing arms to allies, after all, greed demands a plastic surface to appease the masses into thinking all is well, in reality all is on bare bones.

Russia and China are winning the long con.

They have also released a new and apparently dangerous strain of Covid in Northern Korea.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/12/north-korea-reports-first-covid-outbreak-since-pandemic

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10th March 2022

I already mentioned it at the other topic, but it seems that there is something interesting going on and I do not think I am the only one noticing it.

Russia is not advancing as fast as they should, even with all the mainstream propaganda going on, they are not breaking the line as fast as they can. Like I said before, it is almost like they do not want Nato to see a modern Russian Army, the attack seems conventional and I do not think this has mainly to do with keeping as many civilians out of harms way. It is almost sinister in nature. Our propaganda machine is really working overtime on it too, they are basically saying Russia is not strong enough to win, Generals are not committed, soldiers are crossing back into Russia by the many etc.

So, what if Russia is bating Nato into attacking by making them believe in the coming weeks that they are weak?

Story on Mainstream, just heard it at the hourly news on the radio.

This is loosely what they have said,



"Russia is now using old material because Ukrainian military forces have destroyed all Russia's modern Weapons and Gear".

After they (Brits) released a rumor in which Putin had died (trying to lure 'm out in the open so they can assassinate him, in Ukraine), luring him out so that Russian troops will not loose confidence, (typical Western thought process). They come up with the lie of the Modern Russian gear losses, People gobble it up like idiots too, ffs.

Like I mentioned earlier, Russia and China are winning the long-con.

While the US is running the Muppet Show on Trumps involvement in overthrowing his own govt, yes, idiots believing it blindly ffs. Russia and China are unfolding their long con, the West is running into a trap eyes wide open.

Source: https://nos.nl/liveblog/2432130-verouderd-russisch-materieel-ingezet-strijd-om-severodonetsk-duurt-voort

Source (English): https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-9

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Is this a prelude to a false flag?

Very unlikely since it be really dumb. But if China is ready to invade Taiwan, well, Guam needs to be neutralized first, the attack will happen very fast and by the time the Yanks can say hello, troops will fall on Taiwan.

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My initial 2-4 week was a bit on the light side of things, it has taken longer than I expected, in my defense however, I did not expect Russia to show up with their old equipment either. Though it does fit perfectly (yes, hindsight) inside their (possible) plan, draw out Nato (the Neo Liberals and their NWo).

Obviously Ukraine has not been overrun (yet), Nato however is doing the Eastern Europe border fortification (as foreseen on a shorter time frame (again, lol)) thing. It seems like it is going into the final stage, all the way up to it being strategized by the Block Alliance, doubts are fading, the long con is almost won.

In the meantime Britain has gone full mental (yes... even more than usual), this is sooooooooooo telling, watch the vid made by Neill below.

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The announcement Nato is going to put 300.000 troops on the Eastern Border.

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As a bonus, another vid Neill made concerning Nato taking care of China next, really... the arrogance ffs. At the same time greed will make sure the innocents will not be spared.... again.

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There seems to be another interesting development going on. Russia is Clowning the US by staking its claim on Alaska, Alaskan invasion was part of my original Scenario, so we're going to add that one back in, Canada was in there already.

I dunno if Mashika reads this Topic, if you do, could you either confirm the bill board saying what they claim, and please confirm if this is not one of those Russian attempts to be funny and they're trying to upset those poor Americans.

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This just came into service, bit of a game changer to say the least. The new torpedo creates massive tsunamis that could wipe coastal cities & low lying countries (literally) off the map !


An official press statement posted by the Sevmash submarine yard on Friday says the “Belgorod” (K-239) is a “research submarine”. In fact, the vessel is built to carry one of the craziest weapons of mass destruction mankind ever has seen: The Poseidon, an autonomous, nuclear-powered underwater drone that can deliver its nuclear payloads from deep under, at distances like crossing the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans.

Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov, said:”.. this is a significant day for us” as ”… advanced achievements of science and the latest construction technologies were applied.”

“The submarine “Belgorod” opens up new opportunities for Russia in conducting various studies, allows conducting diverse scientific expeditions and rescue operations in the most remote areas of the World Ocean,” the Admiral stated.

Highlighting the research- and scientific work that now can be conducted by the Russian Navy in the world oceans, the statement also adds that the submarine can be used for search- and rescue operations in deep waters as it carries autonomous unmanned underwater vehicles.

Nothing in the statement mentions the Poseidon drone weapon purpose.

With the U.S. developing an anti-ballistic missile defense system, Russia started to develop a deep-diving response capability. The Poseidon is a 24-meter-long torpedo-shaped vehicle with an estimated range of 10,000 km and can travel at speeds of 100 knots down to a maximum depth of 1,000 meters. It is powered by a small nuclear reactor and could be armed with a megaton nuclear warhead.

Article https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2022/07/worlds-longest-nuclear-submarine-handed-over-russian-navy

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Some points on things I've picked up recently.

The US, and presumably the rest of NATO needs an element called antimony to make explosives, atm the sole source is China.....

The French army has admitted it has enough munitions to wage a full on conflict for all of, FOUR days.

The British Army is the smallest it's been in living memory....

While the western MSM talks about the "Russian army" in the Ukraine, the actual Russian army still hasn't been mobilised,...... Most of the troops are militias, from Donbass itself, and also from Chechnya (the Ukros are terrified of those guys) and others. "Wagner" is in there, the Russian version of Blackwater, (renamed Xe Services in 2009 and known as Academi since 2011) plus some marines, & some airborne troops.

The Russians are getting to practice & fine tune a lot of kit & techniques on NATO equipment which is invaluable, they are also capturing vast amounts of kit like the famous NLAWs & Stingers not to mention they bought, yes bought, 2 Caesar self propelled guns off corrupts Ukros.

They have also on just deployed their Smerch weapons, which is like grad, only way bigger https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/BM-30_Smerch

[9ideon]

This just came into service, bit of a game changer to say the least. The new torpedo creates massive tsunamis that could wipe coastal cities & low lying countries (literally) off the map !


An official press statement posted by the Sevmash submarine yard on Friday says the “Belgorod” (K-239) is a “research submarine”. In fact, the vessel is built to carry one of the craziest weapons of mass destruction mankind ever has seen: The Poseidon, an autonomous, nuclear-powered underwater drone that can deliver its nuclear payloads from deep under, at distances like crossing the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans.

Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Evmenov, said:”.. this is a significant day for us” as ”… advanced achievements of science and the latest construction technologies were applied.”

“The submarine “Belgorod” opens up new opportunities for Russia in conducting various studies, allows conducting diverse scientific expeditions and rescue operations in the most remote areas of the World Ocean,” the Admiral stated.

Highlighting the research- and scientific work that now can be conducted by the Russian Navy in the world oceans, the statement also adds that the submarine can be used for search- and rescue operations in deep waters as it carries autonomous unmanned underwater vehicles.

Nothing in the statement mentions the Poseidon drone weapon purpose.

With the U.S. developing an anti-ballistic missile defense system, Russia started to develop a deep-diving response capability. The Poseidon is a 24-meter-long torpedo-shaped vehicle with an estimated range of 10,000 km and can travel at speeds of 100 knots down to a maximum depth of 1,000 meters. It is powered by a small nuclear reactor and could be armed with a megaton nuclear warhead.

Article https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2022/07/worlds-longest-nuclear-submarine-handed-over-russian-navy

Yes, subs are going to make a difference, especially the ones with drones and seismic equipment, these crawler drones however, well... It is almost like they read my plan 6 years ago and went with it and added a little spice on top, lol.


Some points on things I've picked up recently.

The US, and presumably the rest of NATO needs an element called antimony to make explosives, atm the sole source is China.....

The French army has admitted it has enough munitions to wage a full on conflict for all of, FOUR days.

The British Army is the smallest it's been in living memory....

While the western MSM talks about the "Russian army" in the Ukraine, the actual Russian army still hasn't been mobilised,...... Most of the troops are militias, from Donbass itself, and also from Chechnya (the Ukros are terrified of those guys) and others. "Wagner" is in there, the Russian version of Blackwater, (renamed Xe Services in 2009 and known as Academi since 2011) plus some marines, & some airborne troops.

The Russians are getting to practice & fine tune a lot of kit & techniques on NATO equipment which is invaluable, they are also capturing vast amounts of kit like the famous NLAWs & Stingers not to mention they bought, yes bought, 2 Caesar self propelled guns off corrupts Ukros.

They have also on just deployed their Smerch weapons, which is like grad, only way bigger https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/BM-30_Smerch

Also a logical observation in relation to the NATO and other equipment which they are finding, I wonder if they have managed to capture that Rocket system yet, the ones Ukraine have been boasting about blowing up that bridge with (for days now).

The Dutch didn't even have bullets a while back, not strange since Billions upon Billions are missing (like gone) every year over here.

That info on Russian troops is also very interesting, I wonder if those psycho's in "charge" even notice anymore, it seems they're all going Pelosi. Norway is mobilizing troops on the Border with Russia as we speak, so called preparing for Russia to attack, Norwegians going Pelosi too, well that's new I guess.

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The Russians are getting to practice & fine tune a lot of kit & techniques on NATO equipment which is invaluable, they are also capturing vast amounts of kit like the famous NLAWs & Stingers not to mention they bought, yes bought, 2 Caesar self propelled guns off corrupts Ukros.


Excellent video, actually the best I've seen in relation to Summaries on this war, period.
Pay more attention around 2:10mins.

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On another note:

Turkey. See how Erdogan has been throwing himself up as negotiator? He held back (as long as possible) the entry of Finland & Helvette to Nato right? It gave Erdogan the possibility to meet with Putin without raising any eyebrows.

Now that Turkey has more or less agreed on letting Sweden & Perkele into the Neo Liberal War machine, what does Erdogan get out of it? Or even more important, Putin?

It almost looks like Erdogan, in return for his accepting of Sweden and Finland into Nato has been given green light by the US to start campaigning in Northern Syria again.


https://i.postimg.cc/0QVn740z/Syria-b2.png

Source (https://www.turkheritage.org/en/publications/factsheets/security/understanding-the-conflict-in-northern-syria-5344)

I drew a line at the City of Raqqa upwards, why?

Well, just think about it, if Erdogan is playing the long con, he now has a legit reason to secure everything West of Raqqa, it would immediately eliminate any possible US troop deployment West of Raqqa and at the same time secure both a coastal supply line as well as a unchallenged one on land. He could take that Western part too, but, since Iraq borders to the West anyway, it might not be such a priority, he would just let Is (if they're still about that region) stay on that Western border with Iraq, let them deal with Is.

LiveConflict2Map (https://syria.liveuamap.com/)

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Some points on things I've picked up recently.

The US, and presumably the rest of NATO needs an element called antimony to make explosives, atm the sole source is China.....

The French army has admitted it has enough munitions to wage a full on conflict for all of, FOUR days.

The British Army is the smallest it's been in living memory....

While the western MSM talks about the "Russian army" in the Ukraine, the actual Russian army still hasn't been mobilised,...... Most of the troops are militias, from Donbass itself, and also from Chechnya (the Ukros are terrified of those guys) and others. "Wagner" is in there, the Russian version of Blackwater, (renamed Xe Services in 2009 and known as Academi since 2011) plus some marines, & some airborne troops.

The Russians are getting to practice & fine tune a lot of kit & techniques on NATO equipment which is invaluable, they are also capturing vast amounts of kit like the famous NLAWs & Stingers not to mention they bought, yes bought, 2 Caesar self propelled guns off corrupts Ukros.

They have also on just deployed their Smerch weapons, which is like grad, only way bigger https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/BM-30_Smerch

Look at it, Itching Moses, that's some huge fecker.

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[9ideon]

Things have been heating up between sides, now that Ukraine is getting/having long range rocket systems we're on the doorstep of new tensions inside the already existing ones. With 80% of their gear destroyed by Russia, Ukraine has but one option left, to strike terror on Russian cities, more importantly, Nuclear installations. If this happens Nato will have its excuse, kinda in between a false flag and declaration of War, why, because if Ukraine attacks nuclear installations in Russia, DC will be bye, bye, Russia will attack the instigator, the planner, the architect of that strike on Nuclear installations inside their borders.

So, is the providing of long range rocket systems a calculated menacing of Nato>? I say yes, they know very well how the stem fits the fork here (they have think-tanks coming up with scenarios, this is just one of them), it's a provocation (backstabbing kind, what else is new) so Nato can turn around and play victim (again, playbook Neo Liberal behavior), just before they get their ass kicked.

See some interesting take on this by the redacted crew, interesting vid, watch it!

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[9ideon]

--OP-- Wild Card Hungary (Big Cheese of Hungary HATES psycho fam Soros), Hungary might join the Block with the promise of regaining lost land (Occupied by Ukraine).


https://i.postimg.cc/qvS0PRt7/Hung.png

Well, well...

Not exactly joining, but who knows.

[9ideon]

It truly gets nuttier with the day.

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[O Donna]

Some points on things I've picked up recently.

The US, and presumably the rest of NATO needs an element called antimony to make explosives, atm the sole source is China.....

The French army has admitted it has enough munitions to wage a full on conflict for all of, FOUR days.

The British Army is the smallest it's been in living memory....

While the western MSM talks about the "Russian army" in the Ukraine, the actual Russian army still hasn't been mobilised,...... Most of the troops are militias, from Donbass itself, and also from Chechnya (the Ukros are terrified of those guys) and others. "Wagner" is in there, the Russian version of Blackwater, (renamed Xe Services in 2009 and known as Academi since 2011) plus some marines, & some airborne troops.

The Russians are getting to practice & fine tune a lot of kit & techniques on NATO equipment which is invaluable, they are also capturing vast amounts of kit like the famous NLAWs & Stingers not to mention they bought, yes bought, 2 Caesar self propelled guns off corrupts Ukros.

They have also on just deployed their Smerch weapons, which is like grad, only way bigger https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/BM-30_Smerch

Look at it, Itching Moses, that's some huge fecker.

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That's going to be hard not to miss with something like magnetic anomaly detectors (MAD) for example. May as well be a surface ship. Scratch that, subs can transition under ice shelves.

Should have called it the K-329 Kraken

Release the kraken...errrr.....кракен

[9ideon]

Current events are taking a really interesting turn, as we speak China taking positions all around this rebellious Province of Taiwan for the purposes of a "Military drill" lasting until coming Sunday.

The US wouldn't even bother if not for "certain" made in Taiwan products, In the interest of trade, China let it stand the way it was, I guess that this is now over with. What is puzzling is why that Witch is trying to use these People as a means to an end, make China loose face so it has no other option but to invade. Is the need for those products not important anymore, is this Bluff for more sinister means? Detached from reality I would call this move.


https://i.postimg.cc/ZnkL9QmQ/chin.jpg

Is China going to invade at any day? I would say yes, but... I have a feeling that they are waiting on something in relation to Russia and certain positions which will be taken in Ukraine, Alexander Mercouris (https://www.youtube.com/c/AlexanderMercourisReal) mentioned it in his vid last night that Russia is planning a very large move further into Ukraine, cutting off any possible supply lines coming from Ukraine actual (I believe it was Dnipro). One could argue this will be a lighting war with the Mother of all Panzer vehicle attacks coming down on Ukraine forces.


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It has to be the case because when China goes into Taiwan to root out the Liberal corruption which plagues our own lands, not to speak of the naive position these People take on placing Nukes in Taiwan in the near future. Do not forget that the US has (I believe) 3x1 Aircraft Carrier right in front of China, all carriers have mandatory Nukes on-board, they'll tell you that this is not the case, yet, People who have worked on these tell a different story.


The presence of nuclear weapons on board U.S. aircraft carriers since the end of the Cold War has neither been confirmed nor denied by the U.S. government.

Something China needs to address fast in case of War, if the US declares war, firing those 3x1 Nuke will surely be the next step. We're simply not dealing with rational People when it comes to Neo Liberals and Neo Conservatives, they're 2 peas in the same pot after all.

China is putting it's pieces into position, even if there is no attack in between now and coming Sunday, who's to say that their fleet positions will be given up? They can stay there until Kingdom come if they feel like it.


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In the meantime there has been fighting talk from NK, yes they do this all the time, nothing new, however in recent light of events, well...

[9ideon]

--OP-- Wild Card Hungary (Big Cheese of Hungary HATES psycho fam Soros), Hungary might join the Block with the promise of regaining lost land (Occupied by Ukraine).


https://i.postimg.cc/qvS0PRt7/Hung.png

Well, well...

Not exactly joining, but who knows.

Orban Yesterday at Cpac.


"We must take back the institutions in Washington and in Brussels. We must coordinate the movement of our troops, because we face the same challenge," he said. "You have two years to get ready."

Why 2 Years? End of Clown of Clowns term? Or something else?

Source (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viktor-orban-christian-politician-racist-cpac/)

Opinion of Cult Figure (https://www.lexico.com/definition/cult_figure) Emil Cosman.

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[9ideon]

On another note:

Turkey. See how Erdogan has been throwing himself up as negotiator? He held back (as long as possible) the entry of Finland & Helvette to Nato right? It gave Erdogan the possibility to meet with Putin without raising any eyebrows.

Now that Turkey has more or less agreed on letting Sweden & Perkele into the Neo Liberal War machine, what does Erdogan get out of it? Or even more important, Putin?

It almost looks like Erdogan, in return for his accepting of Sweden and Finland into Nato has been given green light by the US to start campaigning in Northern Syria again.


https://i.postimg.cc/0QVn740z/Syria-b2.png

Source (https://www.turkheritage.org/en/publications/factsheets/security/understanding-the-conflict-in-northern-syria-5344)

I drew a line at the City of Raqqa upwards, why?

Well, just think about it, if Erdogan is playing the long con, he now has a legit reason to secure everything West of Raqqa, it would immediately eliminate any possible US troop deployment West of Raqqa and at the same time secure both a coastal supply line as well as a unchallenged one on land. He could take that Western part too, but, since Iraq borders to the West anyway, it might not be such a priority, he would just let Is (if they're still about that region) stay on that Western border with Iraq, let them deal with Is.

LiveConflict2Map (https://syria.liveuamap.com/)


Erdogan to meet Putin in Russia to discuss possible attack on Syria.

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[9ideon]

***OP***

Erdogan will now betray Nato as per design and agreement made with Block leadership ages ago, Erdogan knows that it will only be a matter of time before they'll loose interest in him and have him removed as well (like many Dictators the US needs for some plan), because of the Turkish swap, they become the stabilizing factor in that region towards Iraq and Syria.

Turkey moves into Greece securing the strait of Bosporus (from counter attacks by land and sea) and taking on Greece and the Balkans in order to join up with Russia at Bulgaria, securing the entirety of the Black Sea. Turkey is joined by troops from Iran and other Block Alliance Troops (Land-Naval-Air).

This day seems to get closer, I would add, yes, Turkey has that straight, but still needs to deal with Nato in that same region, they'd be trying to secure that straight for themselves.

Lately, as the previous post also points out, Turkey seems to not care to much about appearances anymore, does this mean something's up soon?

In any case, there's a new deal between Turkey and Russia made, I believe for around 100 Billion.

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Russia and Turkey close to trade deal after meeting between Putin and Erdoğan.

Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said they wanted to deepen their countries’ economic ties, potentially strengthening one of the major lifelines for Moscow’s sanctions-hit economy after it invaded Ukraine.

At the start of their summit in Sochi on Friday, the two presidents said they were close to finalizing key agreements on their economies and trade relations.

Economic ties between Russia and Turkey have taken on added importance for both countries as Ankara desperately searches for foreign investment and Moscow looks for ways around the western sanctions, which have largely cut it out of the global financial system.

Putin said government delegations had already discussed “all the most important areas of our co-operation,” while Erdoğan hoped the possible deals could open “a very different page in our relations.”

Source (https://www.ft.com/content/afcb2732-c015-4b1e-a837-8e34e412e4b4#post-f1449f4e-6816-4784-bcd6-2e3231e28af5)

Things might get very interesting faster then we think.

[9ideon]

We're getting close now.

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[9ideon]

I could see the following happen over the next 4-6 weeks, depending. Obviously it could happen later, yet, the current tensions might move this up.

There's an inescapable feeling Hungary might just leave Nato and create a land bridge for Russia to enter the Balkans. Hungary has been fed up with the EU and Nato for some time now and it just doesn't seem unrealistic to assume there's already a plan like this in place. Belarus would need to enter the war as well, as China is getting ready to invade Taiwan, it might happen in about two weeks to 6 weeks, starting for real when the next delegation comes over to Taipe. They'd need to create a stable corridor against Poland and Romania as well (Cut off Nato troops to Ukraine from Western borders), I might be wrong, but it seems logical.


https://i.postimg.cc/Jh6LjyRf/Map-Ukr-Hung-WRsia-c.jpg

[Spiral]

Orban Yesterday at Cpac.


"We must take back the institutions in Washington and in Brussels. We must coordinate the movement of our troops, because we face the same challenge," he said. "You have two years to get ready."

Why 2 Years? End of Clown of Clowns term? Or something else?



US elections, Trump gets back in ..... or all hell gets let loose :heh:

[9ideon]

Orban Yesterday at Cpac.


"We must take back the institutions in Washington and in Brussels. We must coordinate the movement of our troops, because we face the same challenge," he said. "You have two years to get ready."

Why 2 Years? End of Clown of Clowns term? Or something else?



US elections, Trump gets back in ..... or all hell gets let loose :heh:

2 years seem way to long, Russia and China have the upper hand in gear and Men, take in NK, Iran and at least Venezuela as well. Still, 2 years is a long time in Military speak, they're not going to sit by idle. When given the chance they will try to fatten their chances, Orban might be thinking about Trump, but again, no sense, Hungary still has to deal with the EU in the coming two years and they're trying to out Orban.

I think the comment has become invalid, he' s probably now too informed about that Corona thing and whatnot.

But you have a point, could be all hell, I just expect it earlier.

[9ideon]

The West considers applying NATO’s Article 5 in response to possible accident at Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant

https://i.postimg.cc/DZrFHgyW/FF.png

Article (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/20/7364116/)

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[jaybee]

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weird isn't it... we are all more or less carrying on as normal (outside Ukraine) as the dark clouds of World War are gathering and impending disaster draws closer... trouble is that NATO countries (infiltrated deeply by Globalists and their minions) are so used to playing the part of Top Dog they are not going to stop opposing Russia and if open war is declared god only knows where all that will lead because Russia will not let them destroy her without massive retaliation..

but therein lies a fundamental problem for the Globalists.... even though they want billions of people to be erased from the face of the earth (depopulation)... they don't want their carefully crafted nefarious plans wrecked by a war that destroys the technological networks that they need to keep the 'peasants' controlled + enslaved...

so although times are very dangerous and anything could happen very quickly, out of the blue... perhaps Globalist controlled NATO will hold back from taking the final fatal steps towards World War... dunno... they could be too far gone to pull back... ???

[9ideon]

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weird isn't it... we are all more or less carrying on as normal (outside Ukraine) as the dark clouds of World War are gathering and impending disaster draws closer... trouble is that NATO countries (infiltrated deeply by Globalists and their minions) are so used to playing the part of Top Dog they are not going to stop opposing Russia and if open war is declared god only knows where all that will lead because Russia will not let them destroy her without massive retaliation..

but therein lies a fundamental problem for the Globalists.... even though they want billions of people to be erased from the face of the earth (depopulation)... they don't want their carefully crafted nefarious plans wrecked by a war that destroys the technological networks that they need to keep the 'peasants' controlled + enslaved...

so although times are very dangerous and anything could happen very quickly, out of the blue... perhaps Globalist controlled NATO will hold back from taking the final fatal steps towards World War... dunno... they could be too far gone to pull back... ???

I don't think their Psyche allows them to see their own downfall, you can see it in the overdrive of things which are happening, it becomes very clear something manipulative is done with the weather for instance. People seem to forget that this Planet has been here a while and that hot weather is not new.

They want a war, Glibbery Clinton has called it out during her race with Trump, it never left their minds. Putin has called Man and Horse in speeches since the start of that special Op, there's no way back there either, they know he knows and now all Russians know.

The only way for this to be avoided is internal intervention by the People, the same People whom have been standing in line like good little Sheep to take all those shots, pushed by the same types who have been lying to them not only their entire lives, but millennia at end. Again those very same sheeple are now chosen to die for them in the next war. It is truly sickening, People seem to want to fall for it over and over again, I wonder sometimes.

Their plan was always the destruction of China and Russia, be it through internal schemes or open war, they want their Elitist Global System in place and will stop at nothing, insanity.

[9ideon]

Putting this one here, clown world in overdrive. How to get Turkey to leave Nato.

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[Spiral]

:facepalm:


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[9ideon]

:facepalm:


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Yeah, I noticed this one, iEarlGrey mentioned it was probably one of BJ's friends that got the contract to build it, hehehehhe.

Ooh, and I dug up your facepalm Picard Smiley from back in the day.

https://i.postimg.cc/HnQxGwzP/Facepalmpicard.jpg

[Spiral]

:facepalm:


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Yeah, I noticed this one, iEarlGrey mentioned it was probably one of BJ's friends that got the contract to build it, hehehehhe.

Ooh, and I dug up your facepalm Picard Smiley from back in the day.

https://i.postimg.cc/HnQxGwzP/Facepalmpicard.jpg

My smilies went when photobucket went commercial (queue Irons fav emoji) :brick:

Now this twist...


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[9ideon]

:facepalm:


disclosetv/9035

Yeah, I noticed this one, iEarlGrey mentioned it was probably one of BJ's friends that got the contract to build it, hehehehhe.

Ooh, and I dug up your facepalm Picard Smiley from back in the day.

https://i.postimg.cc/HnQxGwzP/Facepalmpicard.jpg

My smilies went when photobucket went commercial (queue Irons fav emoji) :brick:

Now this twist...

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They're at 20% but need 90% for weapons grade Uranium, 5% is just for the reactors, Dtv is sensationalizing the truth again for a change.


Generally speaking, lower levels of enriched uranium, such as uranium with 5% U-235, are commonly used for nuclear reactor fuel.

Source (https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/uranium-enrichment-iran-nuclear-ambitions)


Source 20% (https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-iran-nuclear-united-nations-51cb62796ace2c64ba9278197d9b5464)

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[9ideon]

***OP***

Russia now starts an offensive from the Arctic into Canada & Alaska. Canadians cannot hold Russian troops advancing.


If conflict were to erupt soon, a little too late of a response, that being said, where are all these troops coming from? Spread thin they are already (read OP for more on that).

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[Spiral]

Here we go, as you predicted, those cables....

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[9ideon]

Here we go, as you predicted, those cables....

TXDPR/2335

They've done a trial run couple weeks ago, how these things go eh.

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[Matthew]

The UK powers have been all in with their support for Ukraine even though their propaganda isn't catching the UK's imagination. Any strong pro-Ukraine sentiment fizzled out quickly because it was a fashion not a passion. It makes no difference though. I can't shake the feeling the UK powers involved were feeling like they actually achieved something when we blew up the pipeline (if the rumours are true, I find them easy to believe). I feel like our ruling powers are hell bent on dooming us, investing in the moral low-ground to harvest opportunities for future retaliation against us. I don't believe they're stupid, they're lap-dog career politicians ...especially the PM. So I can't see how this won't escalate. I don't feel great about this is an understatement.

[9ideon]

OP:
Erdogan will now betray Nato as per design and agreement made with Block leadership ages ago, Erdogan knows that it will only be a matter of time before they'll loose interest in him and have him removed as well (like many Dictators the US needs for some plan), because of the Turkish swap, they become the stabilizing factor in that region towards Iraq and Syria.


Turkey to withdraw from NATO in 5-6 months

Turkish politician Ethem Sanjak did not rule out Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875661200784330754/cXTSJeMm_400x400.jpg

Turkey allows withdrawal from NATO within six months. This decision was actually provoked by the alliance itself, said Ethem Sandzak, deputy chairman of the Turkish Motherland Party.

“Turkey will leave NATO in five or six months. They are trying to drag us into the whirlpool in the Middle East. Finally, you see actions against the Koran in Sweden and the Netherlands,” Sandzak said. He is quoted by the newspaper Aydinlik. The material notes that NATO is forcing Turkey to make such a decision.

Recently, there have been several acts of public burning of the Koran in European countries. One such case took place in the Netherlands. On this occasion, the Ambassador of the Netherlands in Ankara was summoned to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, RT reports.

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Turkey allows withdrawal from NATO within six months. This decision was actually provoked by the alliance itself, said Ethem Sandzak, deputy chairman of the Turkish Motherland Party. “Turkey will leave NATO in five or six months. They are trying to drag us into the whirlpool in the Middle East. Finally, you see actions against the Koran in Sweden and the Netherlands,” Sandzak said. He is quoted by Aydinlik newspaper. The material notes that NATO is forcing Turkey to make such a decision. Recently, there have been several acts of public burning of the Koran in European countries. One such case took place in the Netherlands. On this occasion, the Ambassador of the Netherlands in Ankara was summoned to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, RT reports.

Source (https://news.russia.postsen.com/world/179398.html)

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[9ideon]

The image below is what I've sent to someone in September, this is in mho getting very close now (Image and part of mail added to post).

https://i.postimg.cc/m2b3wGRP/Rus-Attack-Ukranazi.png

I have added Hungary as a wild card, might not happen and I have also left Poland out of taking a Western Part of Ukraine, might still happen. Have not included the already liberated regions and the tacimap there in the East neither, we all know what it holds and it's too much work to update that, lol. In my opinion, securing the Western Border is of large strategic importance if Russia expects war with Nato.

A couple weeks ago there was mention of Russia bringing in a lot of attack and supply/pers carrier Helicopters, there is speculation that there will be a front around Odessa opened up linking Moldova with Russian troops while taking the coastal region at the same time. Sounds like a valid option to me.

Furthermore, Russia needs to take the Western border at Poland as well, this due to the possibility, if there will be a conflict with Nato, to stop Nato troops advancing through Northern Ukraine into Russia while the Baltics and Finland will try and grind their own respective theaters. Remember that a multi front will hinder Ukraine from sending reinforcements anywhere, they'll be annihilated while trying to think about an escape, too late.

[9ideon]

The image below is what I've sent to someone in September, this is in mho getting very close now (Image and part of mail added to post).

https://i.postimg.cc/m2b3wGRP/Rus-Attack-Ukranazi.png

I have added Hungary as a wild card, might not happen and I have also left Poland out of taking a Western Part of Ukraine, might still happen. Have not included the already liberated regions and the tacimap there in the East neither, we all know what it holds and it's too much work to update that, lol. In my opinion, securing the Western Border is of large strategic importance if Russia expects war with Nato.

A couple weeks ago there was mention of Russia bringing in a lot of attack and supply/pers carrier Helicopters, there is speculation that there will be a front around Odessa opened up linking Moldova with Russian troops while taking the coastal region at the same time. Sounds like a valid option to me.

Furthermore, Russia needs to take the Western border at Poland as well, this due to the possibility, if there will be a conflict with Nato, to stop Nato troops advancing through Northern Ukraine into Russia while the Baltics and Finland will try and grind their own respective theaters. Remember that a multi front will hinder Ukraine from sending reinforcements anywhere, they'll be annihilated while trying to think about an escape, too late.

Are these the forebodes for that full blown attack I am expecting?

Russian and Belarusian soldiers practice paratrooper landing on Wednesday

As part of joint exercises, the Russian and Belarusian military forces will practice paratrooper landing in Belarus on 25 January. Currently, Ukrainian border guards do not record any activities near the border with Ukraine.

Source: Belaruski Hajun military monitoring project; spokesman of the State Border Service Andrii Demchenko in a comment to Ukrainska Pravda

Details: The analysts of Hajun emphasise that this is a regular situation, there is no indication of military aggression against Ukraine from the territory of Belarus.

Source (https://news.yahoo.com/russian-belarusian-soldiers-practise-paratrooper-112213719.html)

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Russian military launch attacks on Chernihiv Oblast (Northern Ukraine) with artillery and mortars

Eight hits were recorded in the vicinity of the village of Khrinivka, a village about 3.6 kilometers from the Ukrainian-Russian border, in the north of Chernihiv Oblast, close to the point where the borders of Ukraine, Russia and Belarus meet.

The shells that hit in the vicinity of Khrinivka were probably fired from a 120mm mortar, the Ukrainian military said.

With Russian 120mm mortars having effective firing ranges of from 5.7 kilometers to 7.1 kilometers, the shells were most probably fired across the border from Russia, as Russian forces were expelled from Chernihiv oblast by Ukrainian forces in early April last year.

Source (https://news.yahoo.com/russian-military-launch-attacks-chernihiv-182000770.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIcvUNNVxFCI94WGFbqTzO27FepiXaAN7WBn9zidrk7XEj_vKdU5dydfOg_6vr9_ZpZMNUZvWBXVtD _eYAi1QoGa5LrHxY_y1hxpV4xY5S5EMxJ63WC2IucSVz7LrtHZJOfmT9rmuLQ1vsJP8xHQuCnZbkD8YpssyxYqwVlh2J2c)

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[9ideon]

OP:
So called representatives of the Peoples of all (Western) countries involved are stirring up their People (about nowish) (Civilians exposed to Propaganda through Mainstream media) into accepting a War with Russia.

By this time the Ukraine has been completely overrun by Russian troops (coming).
Nato has to respond (war is declared) and starts bombing Russian targets. More landforces are flown in.
Point of no return has been reached.
Nato leadership is happy to report that Russian troops have been halted by Nato forces along the old WOII Eastern front line.
Then the "Plan" comes to life. Various Countries will now attack targets across the globe, making it very hard for Nato to make soup out of where to do troop deployments on such short term.


NATO ready for direct confrontation with Russia

The military official stressed that NATO should be better prepared because currently Russia has the military initiative

https://phototass1.cdnvideo.ru/width/1020_b9261fa1/tass/m2/en/uploads/i/20230129/1379433.jpg

Chair of the NATO Military Committee Rob Bauer said that the US-led bloc is ready for a direct confrontation with Russia in an interview with Portugal’s RTP TV channel.

Replying to a question on the matter, he asserted: "We are ready." That said, he added that NATO is going to respond only if Russia crosses the red line by invading one of NATO member states.

The military official stressed that NATO should be better prepared because currently Russia has the military initiative. "The fact that your enemy has better weapons is not the problem of the enemy. That is your problem," he said.

The interview also raised the issue of introducing "a war-time economy but in peace time," however, Bauer admitted that this process would be difficult.

Source (https://tass.com/world/1568517)

You can see the upward lift towards having the public (West) accept boots on ground eventually, Nato knows Russia has the upperhand and if they attack on multiple fronts, Russia will punch the lights out of Ukraine's defenses.

If studying the trend, besides the huge amounts of money, it stands out to the observant people that it went from bullets and rockets to AA (including those Himars, steered by satellites manned by the US applying shots on Civilian targets) to Tanks and now Jets.

Snorting Boris claiming that Putin was going to take 'm out with a missile etc, they've gone into overdrive into pushing for war/boots on ground. Statements and actions regarding the Peoples Republic (war in 2025) and the sanctioned drone attacks on Iran, it will not stop here and I am almost certain something else will take place in the coming days, it makes sense.

Public is now being made ready to accept War in realtime.

We're very close to WOIII now.

[9ideon]

Vid isn't all that about my scenario, on the other hand, it is a really good sum-up of what is going on here.

Enjoy.

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[9ideon]

OP:
So called representatives of the Peoples of all (Western) countries involved are stirring up their People (about nowish) (Civilians exposed to Propaganda through Mainstream media) into accepting a War with Russia.

By this time the Ukraine has been completely overrun by Russian troops (coming).
Nato has to respond (war is declared) and starts bombing Russian targets. More landforces are flown in.
Point of no return has been reached.
Nato leadership is happy to report that Russian troops have been halted by Nato forces along the old WOII Eastern front line.
Then the "Plan" comes to life. Various Countries will now attack targets across the globe, making it very hard for Nato to make soup out of where to do troop deployments on such short term.


NATO ready for direct confrontation with Russia

The military official stressed that NATO should be better prepared because currently Russia has the military initiative

https://phototass1.cdnvideo.ru/width/1020_b9261fa1/tass/m2/en/uploads/i/20230129/1379433.jpg

Chair of the NATO Military Committee Rob Bauer said that the US-led bloc is ready for a direct confrontation with Russia in an interview with Portugal’s RTP TV channel.

Replying to a question on the matter, he asserted: "We are ready." That said, he added that NATO is going to respond only if Russia crosses the red line by invading one of NATO member states.

The military official stressed that NATO should be better prepared because currently Russia has the military initiative. "The fact that your enemy has better weapons is not the problem of the enemy. That is your problem," he said.

The interview also raised the issue of introducing "a war-time economy but in peace time," however, Bauer admitted that this process would be difficult.

Source (https://tass.com/world/1568517)

You can see the upward lift towards having the public (West) accept boots on ground eventually, Nato knows Russia has the upperhand and if they attack on multiple fronts, Russia will punch the lights out of Ukraine's defenses.

If studying the trend, besides the huge amounts of money, it stands out to the observant people that it went from bullets and rockets to AA (including those Himars, steered by satellites manned by the US applying shots on Civilian targets) to Tanks and now Jets.

Snorting Boris claiming that Putin was going to take 'm out with a missile etc, they've gone into overdrive into pushing for war/boots on ground. Statements and actions regarding the Peoples Republic (war in 2025) and the sanctioned drone attacks on Iran, it will not stop here and I am almost certain something else will take place in the coming days, it makes sense.

Public is now being made ready to accept War in realtime.

We're very close to WOIII now.

Another indication/example of the preparations of influencing the psyche of the People, creating a threat in where the West warns for the influence and apparent nasty plans made by Russia/China etc, whilst People paying attention see that the Western Kleptocrats are mirroring yet again their plans involving destruction of non-Kleptocracy Nations.

Japan, NATO concerned over military cooperation of Russia, China — joint statement

Japan and NATO are concerned over the growing military cooperation between Russia and China, says the joint statement, adopted after the meeting of Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday.
"We highlight with concern Russia's growing military cooperation with China, including through joint operations and drills in the vicinity of Japan," the statement reads.

The joint statement also reiterates criticism against Russia over the situation in Ukraine, as well as against China for its military activity in Asia, and opposed a "unilateral change of the status quo by force or coercion."

The concern about Russia and China becoming closer is contained in the updated versions of NATO and Japan’s basic documents - the NATO Strategic Concept, adopted in June last year, and the National Security Strategy of Japan, passed on December last year.

In their joint statement, Kishida and Stoltenberg mutually welcomed the adoption of these documents, while the alliance expressed its support to the "fundamental reinforcement of [Japan’s] defense capabilities."

Source (https://tass.com/world/1569521)

I feel sorry for the Japanese Youths being dragged into this Warmongering by Nato and Vassals, again, like the (most likely) Fins they will be subject, yet again, to be used by a group of People whom are only interested in getting control over others by lying cheating and stealing their way into your lives, then take away rights, fundamental income and stealing resources by having Puppets creating laws and illegal contracts.

Then, as a cherry on the cake, insisting you should be grateful for it and you will be because all the People trying to stand up to this Kleptocratic principle will have been made gone or branded idiots by that same corrupt Media these Leeches have bought in the past 40 years or so.

When are People going to see these Parasites for what they truly are? Probably when it is too late (again).

[9ideon]

Grayzone vid with at start already former British Defense Minister and Snorting Boris Fan calling for Boots on the ground?

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If Nato goes Boots on the ground they will try and cut off Crimea asap, as we know, as mentioned by Grayzone in the vid above, the West thinks taking Crimea will de-throne Putin.



https://i.postimg.cc/cJMxQb2F/Krim-West-Attack.jpg



My gut tells me they are going to use 101 Airborne complemented with other Nato troops to attack Crimea at key positions and bring in Landing troops (Marines etc) from Romania, I believe there are still around 24, perhaps more now, Nato warships in the Black Sea.

Despite the Russian resilience and winning mood, I do not see any indication this attack has been kept in mind, as far as I could figure out, there are at this time, 15.000 Russian Troops stationed at Crimea Peninsula. Not going to be enough, if there is also a push from Northern Romania and from Poland together with attacks on the Baltic side and towards the Kaliningrad pocket, I feel that Russia is going to be pushed back in Ukraine and kept busy on the Baltic front.

Airborne will try and take at least 4x1 painpoints (Armiansk, Kerch and either Bay of Arabat or Henichesk, the latter would make more sense) in Crimea. There will also be at least 1x1 attempt to take an airfield/port by a Paradrop, I would think near Sevastopol (I believe one to be near there).

At the same time an Invasion will come from the Sea (most likely Kalamita Bay), as well as the bombardment and destruction of the Crimean Bridge if needed (Nato will also instigate bombardments on land targets all over Crimea, they'll try and get supremacy in the air as well as the sea), it can also be kept intact to try and invade mainland Russia, it makes more sense to destroy it though, time is of essence and keeping that bridge "alive" will most likely prove more of a burden to Nato.

1st objective for the troops coming from the Sea is to take the Western Crimean Coast (Chornomorske and Sevastopol), then they will move inland towards Simferopol, as more troops are brought in they will try and take the rest of the Peninsula as fast as they can to try and bring Russia to its knees and end the current conflict.

I can see Nato be willing to take a gamble here because like what I mentioned earlier and what Western Kleptocrats are blabbering out about, if Crimea falls so will the "Putin Regime", their thoughts not mine. This might also be the reason why "they" keep talking about taking Crimea, everybody expects that attack to come over land from the North and no-one seems to realize that we're basically talking about a D-day style scenario here, from Nato perspective (Airborne and Coastal Landing Attack) and not from Hitlenskie's perspective (Northern Attack).

The undoubted objective to sink the Russian Black Sea fleet will be of great importance and I bet that certain elements have been brought near to the theater already to accomplish that goal.

That is the exact reason why the flip (or not) of Turkey might be of great strategic importance to either side.

The reason why I kept Serbia Neutral at the OP for the beginning of this (coming?) war has to do with movement of landforces into the Balkan area from more Western positions, Serbia as a "neutral" nation will be a mayor annoyance to Nato troop Movements (Land & Air).

101 in Romania makes perfect sense now.

[9ideon]

Grayzone vid with at start already former British Defense Minister and Snorting Boris Fan calling for Boots on the ground?

***YT Vid removed, vid one post up***

If Nato goes Boots on the ground they will try and cut off Crimea asap, as we know, as mentioned by Grayzone in the vid above, the West thinks taking Crimea will de-throne Putin.



https://i.postimg.cc/cJMxQb2F/Krim-West-Attack.jpg

My gut tells me they are going to use 101 Airborne complemented with other Nato troops to attack Crimea at key positions and bring in Landing troops (Marines etc) from Romania, I believe there are still around 24, perhaps more now, Nato warships in the Black Sea.

Despite the Russian resilience and winning mood, I do not see any indication this attack has been kept in mind, as far as I could figure out, there are at this time, 15.000 Russian Troops stationed at Crimea Peninsula. Not going to be enough, if there is also a push from Northern Romania and from Poland together with attacks on the Baltic side and towards the Kaliningrad pocket, I feel that Russia is going to be pushed back in Ukraine and kept busy on the Baltic front.

Airborne will try and take at least 4x1 painpoints (Armiansk, Kerch and either Bay of Arabat or Henichesk, the latter makes more sense) in Crimea. There will also be at least 1x1 attempt to take an airfield/port by a Paradrop, I would think near Sevastopol (I believe one to be near there).

At the same time an Invasion will come from the Sea (most likely Kalamita Bay), as well as the bombardment and destruction of the Crimean Bridge if needed (Nato will also instigate bombardments on land targets all over Crimea, they'll try and get supremacy in the air as well as the sea), it can also be kept intact to try and invade mainland Russia, it makes more sense to destroy it though, time is of essence and keeping that bridge "alive" will most likely prove more of a burden to Nato.

1st objective for the troops coming from the Sea is to take the Western Crimean Coast (Chornomorske and Sevastopol), then they will move inland towards Simferopol, as more troops are brought in they will try and take the rest of the Peninsula as fast as they can to try and bring Russia to its knees and end the current conflict.

I can see Nato be willing to take a gamble here because like what I mentioned earlier and what Western Kleptocrats are blabbering out about, if Crimea falls so will the "Putin Regime", their thoughts not mine. This might also be the reason why "they" keep talking about taking Crimea, everybody expects that attack to come over land from the North and no-one seems to realize that we're basically talking about a D-day style scenario here, from Nato perspective (Airborne and Coastal Landing Attack) and not from Hitlenskie's perspective (Northern Attack).

The undoubted objective to sink the Russian Black Sea fleet will be of great importance and I bet that certain elements have been brought near to the theater already to accomplish that goal.

That is the exact reason why the flip (or not) of Turkey might be of great strategic importance to either side.

The reason why I kept Serbia Neutral at the OP for the beginning of this (coming?) war has to do with movement of landforces into the Balkan area from more Western positions, Serbia as a "neutral" nation will be a mayor annoyance to Nato troop Movements (Land & Air).

101 in Romania makes perfect sense now.

I need to ad the following, Nato could in theory be replaced with Coalition Forces, namely if the EU the US and the Brits would independently declare war on Russia certain elements and countries could be bypassed (Turkiye out Finland in), this way the entire Nato thing could be sidelined, in that case Ukraine will become an EU member straight away. It might not be a large chance, but I would not rule it out either.

[9ideon]

Now, there have been shifts happening in the Hague, I will place the article below and translate it into English and Russian (latter I cannot spell check).




In Den Haag komt onderzoekscentrum voor berechting invasie Oekraïne

In Den Haag komt een speciaal onderzoekscentrum om Russische leiders te kunnen berechten voor de inval van Oekraïne. Het centrum richt zich op het verzamelen van bewijs, heeft Europese Commissievoorzitter Von der Leyen bekendgemaakt. Nadere details over het plan ontbreken.

Het Internationaal Strafhof (ICC) in Den Haag buigt zich al over in Oekraïne gepleegde oorlogsmisdaden. Maar het strafhof heeft geen bevoegdheid om een oordeel te vellen over een besluit tot een militaire invasie. Speciaal daarvoor komt, eveneens in Den Haag dus, nu het Internationaal Centrum voor de Vervolging van de Misdaad van Agressie in Oekraïne te staan.

Het centrum is bedoeld als opmaat voor de eventuele komst van een Oekraïnetribunaal. Zo kan alvast bewijsmateriaal worden veiliggesteld voor het geval dat er daadwerkelijk zo'n tribunaal komt. Nederland heeft al gezegd het Oekraïnetribunaal te willen huisvesten. Daar zouden Russische leiders, zoals president Poetin, kunnen worden vervolgd voor de invasie.

'Gruwelijke misdaden'

"Rusland moet zich voor de rechtbank verantwoorden voor zijn gruwelijke misdaden", zei Von der Leyen. Ze maakte de komst van het centrum bekend vanuit Kiev. In de Oekraïense hoofdstad had ze een ontmoeting met president Zelensky.

Het onderzoekscentrum gaat samenwerken met het bestaande agentschap Eurojust, ook in Den Haag gevestigd. Maar het is nog onduidelijk hoe de taakverdeling wordt.

Rusland frustreert vervolging

Verder zijn er grote vraagtekens over de haalbaarheid van rechtsvervolging. De kans is nihil dat Rusland de legitimiteit van een Oekraïnetribunaal zal erkennen. Bovendien is het nog maar de vraag of er internationaal voldoende steun is om zo'n tribunaal op te richten.

Ook via het Internationaal Strafhof in Den Haag lijkt de kans op vervolging miniem. Moskou weigert mee te werken aan het ICC, evenmin als Kiev of Washington overigens. En zolang een verdachte van een oorlogsmisdaad niet wordt uitgeleverd aan Nederland, kan er ook geen rechtszaak tegen die persoon plaatsvinden in het ICC.

Mocht er een Oekraïnetribunaal komen, dan zal er ook een discussie gevoerd moeten worden over berechting bij verstek. Op die manier kan een verdachte ook worden veroordeeld, of vrijgesproken, als die niet aanwezig is. Maar er is geen consensus of dit wenselijk is.

De kop van dit artikel sprak eerder van een 'onderzoekscentrum voor oorlogsmisdaden', dat is later aangepast naar 'onderzoekscentrum voor berechting invasie'.

Source (https://nos.nl/artikel/2462207-in-den-haag-komt-onderzoekscentrum-voor-berechting-invasie-oekraine)

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Translations:

***English***

A research center for the invasion of Ukraine will be set up in The Hague

A special investigation center will be set up in The Hague to try Russian leaders for the invasion of Ukraine. The center focuses on collecting evidence, European Commission President von der Leyen has announced. There are no further details about the plan. The International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague is already investigating war crimes committed in Ukraine. But the criminal court has no authority to pass judgment on a decision to launch a military invasion.

The International Center for the Prosecution of the Crime of Aggression in Ukraine will now be set up especially for this purpose, also in The Hague. The center is intended as a prelude to the possible arrival of a Ukraine tribunal. In this way, evidence can already be secured in the event that such a tribunal actually comes. The Netherlands has already said it wants to house the Ukraine Tribunal. There, Russian leaders, such as President Putin, could be prosecuted for the invasion.

'Heinous crimes'

"Russia must answer in court for its heinous crimes," von der Leyen said. She announced the arrival of the center from Kiev. In the Ukrainian capital, she met with President Zelensky. The research center will collaborate with the existing agency Eurojust, also located in The Hague. But it is still unclear how the division of labor will be.

Russia frustrates prosecution

There are also major question marks about the feasibility of prosecution. There is zero chance that Russia will recognize the legitimacy of a Ukraine tribunal. Moreover, it remains to be seen whether there is sufficient international support to set up such a tribunal. The chance of prosecution also seems minimal via the International Criminal Court in The Hague. Moscow refuses to cooperate with the ICC, nor does Kiev or Washington, for that matter.

And as long as a suspect of a war crime is not extradited to the Netherlands, no trial can take place against that person in the ICC. Should there be a Ukraine tribunal, then there will also have to be a discussion about trial in absentia. In this way, a suspect can also be convicted, or acquitted, if he is not present. But there is no consensus whether this is desirable.

The headline of this article previously spoke of a 'War Crimes Investigation Center', which was later changed to 'Invasion Trial Investigation Center'.

***Русский***

Исследовательский центр вторжения в Украину создадут в Гааге

В Гааге будет создан специальный следственный центр, который будет судить российских лидеров за вторжение в Украину. Центр занимается сбором доказательств, заявила президент Европейской комиссии фон дер Ляйен. Других подробностей о плане нет.

Международный уголовный суд (МУС) в Гааге уже расследует военные преступления, совершенные на Украине. Но уголовный суд не имеет полномочий выносить решение о начале военного вторжения. Специально для этого, также в Гааге, теперь будет создан Международный центр по уголовному преследованию преступлений агрессии в Украине.

Центр задуман как прелюдия к возможному приезду украинского трибунала. Таким образом, доказательства могут быть обеспечены уже в том случае, если такой трибунал действительно явится. Нидерланды уже заявили, что хотят разместить у себя Трибунал по Украине. Там российские лидеры, такие как президент Путин, могут быть привлечены к ответственности за вторжение.

«тяжкие преступления»

«Россия должна ответить в суде за свои гнусные преступления», — сказала фон дер Ляйен. Она сообщила о приезде центра из Киева. В украинской столице она встретилась с президентом Зеленским.

Исследовательский центр будет сотрудничать с существующим агентством Eurojust, также расположенным в Гааге. Но пока неясно, как будет происходить разделение труда.

Россия срывает судебное преследование

Есть также серьезные знаки вопроса о целесообразности судебного преследования. Вероятность того, что Россия признает легитимность украинского трибунала, нулевая. Кроме того, еще предстоит выяснить, имеется ли достаточная международная поддержка для создания такого трибунала.

Вероятность судебного преследования через Международный уголовный суд в Гааге также кажется минимальной. Москва отказывается сотрудничать с МУС, равно как и Киев или Вашингтон, если уж на то пошло. И пока подозреваемый в военном преступлении не экстрадирован в Нидерланды, в МУС не может быть возбуждено судебное разбирательство в отношении этого лица.

Если будет украинский трибунал, то и о заочном суде тоже придется говорить. Таким образом, подозреваемый также может быть осужден или оправдан, если он не присутствует. Но нет единого мнения, желательно ли это.

Заголовок этой статьи ранее говорил о «Центре расследования военных преступлений», который позже был изменен на «Центр расследования вторжения».

Issledovatel'skiy tsentr vtorzheniya v Ukrainu sozdadut v Gaage



The above might have been instigated so the West can start a legitimate war against Russia, the entire story becomes way clearer now. There have been rumors of a false flag attack by Western brains in order to get this done quickly.

Read the very last (disclaimer) line of the article, it automatically sidelines Russia and basically exempts Ukraine from prosecution. I bet you that this is the reason they have changed this, some legislators probably noticed some legal issues with the previous name for that "center of research".

Most likely coughed up to legitimize a reason for War by the West against Russia.

This will open up both scenarios, the Nato declaration or the Alternative one with the Coalition forces, the latter bypasses so many obstacles for the Kleptocrats (as mentioned in the two previous posts).

The False Flag attack is mentioned in the first item at the redacted news show, it starts around 33.41 mins and gets addressed 10-15mins in (can't recall), enjoy the show.

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[9ideon]

https://i.postimg.cc/cJMxQb2F/Krim-West-Attack.jpg

The undoubted objective to sink the Russian Black Sea fleet will be of great importance and I bet that certain elements have been brought near to the theater already to accomplish that goal.

***For full post go up the page a couple***


Like mentioned in the Posts up, if there is such a plan, which makes sense to me from a strategic point of view, there needs to be a serious Naval Presence in the Black Sea from Western Perspective. I watched a video (Emile Cosman, vid at end of post) this morning claiming that 2x1 US Warships were at the Black Sea, I followed up on that video and found something very interesting concerning US Fleet movements, especially the 6th Fleet.



George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group arrives in Piraeus, Greece

The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) – along with the embarked staff of Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 10, George H.W. Bush CSG arrived in Piraeus, Greece, for a scheduled port visit, Feb. 3, 2023.

The port visit enhances the NATO Alliance and allows the Sailors of George H.W. Bush CSG a chance to experience Greek culture.

“Our mission on deployment has been to work closely with our partners and NATO Allies in order to deter, and if necessary, defend the Alliance,” said Rear Adm. Dennis Velez, commander, CSG-10, George H.W. Bush CSG. “Port visits like this one provide an opportunity for us to engage with our Allies and develop meaningful relationships that make a substantive difference across our force.”

CSG-10, George H.W. Bush CSG, is on a scheduled deployment in the U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa area of operations, employed by U.S. Sixth Fleet to defend U.S., allied and partner interests.

George H.W. Bush is the flagship of CSG-10, George H.W. Bush CSG. George H.W. Bush CSG is comprised of George H.W. Bush, Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 7, Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 26, the Information Warfare Commander, and the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf (CG 55).

The ships of DESRON-26 within CSG-10 are the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Nitze (DDG 94), USS Farragut (DDG 99), USS Truxtun (DDG 103), and USS Delbert D. Black (DDG 119).

The squadrons of CVW-7 embarked aboard George H.W. Bush are the “Jolly Rogers” of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 103, the “Pukin Dogs” of VFA-143, the “Bluetails” of Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 121, the “Nightdippers” of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 5, the “Sidewinders” of VFA-86, the “Nighthawks” of VFA-136, the “Patriots” of Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 140, and the “Grandmasters” of Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 46.

Source (https://www.c6f.navy.mil/Press-Room/News/Article/3287396/george-hw-bush-carrier-strike-group-arrives-in-piraeus-greece/)



https://i.postimg.cc/d1qzQkcJ/St-Paul-North-map.jpg
Credit (https://www.dolphin-hellas.gr/Cruises/Louis-cruises/St_Paul-footsteps-Black-Sea.htm)

One of the two Ships visiting Turkey is named USS Nitze (6th Fleet) and most definitively a symbolic push on the shoulder by the US towards Russia (brought up in one of the comments at Emile's Video).


https://i.postimg.cc/pV1GxX9Y/080223-NITZEphoto02.jpg


Who was Paul H. Nitze?



Paul Henry Nitze (January 16, 1907 – October 19, 2004) was an American politician who served as United States Deputy Secretary of Defense, U.S. Secretary of the Navy, and Director of Policy Planning for the U.S. State Department.

He is best known for being the principal author of NSC 68 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSC_68) and the co-founder of Team B (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B). He helped shape Cold War defense policy over the course of numerous presidential administrations.


This is clearly a show of force by Nato and especially the US Navy, I would not be surprised if there would be some diplomatic talks going on with Turkiye about entering the Black sea, since Turkiye and the US have issues over F-16's at the moment (Turkey already paid the US around 1.5 Billion $ for that 20B$ order) with Turkiye not getting any (https://nordicmonitor.com/2023/01/erdogans-security-advisor-says-its-time-to-stop-purchasing-american-weapons-and-jet-fighters/) because they block entry of Sweden into Nato, (although this is being denied now, yeah right!) Turkiye could very well say Nope to the US Navy.

Turkiye has the right to deny entry into the Black Sea by anyone, according to the Montreux Convention Treaty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits).

However, the US and treaties are not the best of friends and I doubt that if the US Navy decides to go into the Black Sea at all costs, Turkiye can do anything but object diplomatically.

Time (could be short) will tell.

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[Bill Ryan]

Just a personal note of thanks to 9ideon (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?32159-9ideon) for faithfully updating this important thread.

Of course, it's a companion to WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia/page416), but — sort of!! — this is more of a strategic overview thread, while the WW3 thread rather more consists of daily updates on the ground, including comments from politicians and other analysts, usually specifically about Ukraine.

I read both threads every day, and (in my view) this whole topic is the most important thing currently happening on the planet by far. I'm now increasingly concerned that this could all too easily escalate way out of control, propelling us into a genuinely enormous global crisis.

:flower::focus:

[9ideon]

Just a personal note of thanks to 9ideon (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?32159-9ideon) for faithfully updating this important thread.

Of course, it's a companion to WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia/page416), but — sort of!! — this is more of a strategic overview thread, while the WW3 thread rather more consists of daily updates on the ground, including comments from politicians and other analysts, usually specifically about Ukraine.

I read both threads every day, and (in my view) this whole topic is the most important thing currently happening on the planet by far. I'm now increasingly concerned that this could all too easily escalate way out of control, propelling us into a genuinely enormous global crisis.

:flower::focus:

Bill, thank you for your kind words, it means a lot coming from you.

I totally agree with your remarks concerning the importance of this current World-wide topic, the ongoing situation can only but escalate, I do not see any other way (example Cold-War scenario). After George Bush Sr heralded the NWO in, in his now (in)famous speech (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxeOG_pZ1o), well, I guess the gloves came off that day.

It basically began with the assassination of the two Kennedies and the direct takeover of the Democratic party by actors now well known, there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats when it comes to this installment of the NWO, there never was.

The Kennedies were assassinated due to the reluctance of bringing the Dollar into the Petro Dollar as it is now. These were the preparations on how to further influence on the World into an Iron Grip that could not be broken as long as the US would stay Military Powerful and unchallenged. Pres. John F. Kennedy did not want to go towards the Petro Dollar and neither would Bobby who was very much ahead of his time when it came to environmental issues and again would never go along with moving towards the Petro Dollar during his terms (yes I could have seen 2 terms for him as well).

Because of the pressure on the timeline Bobby was assassinated as well and for the same reason as his Brother, preparations were underway and both Kennedies were standing in front of it, although no one knows for sure if Bobby would have been elected, however they could not take the chance that he would, most likely, serve his two terms.

Nixon then implemented the migration into the Petro Dollar in 1973 after abandoning the Gold Standard in 1971, between those two dates the Dollar went into a freefall, not a coincidence, it would basically get everybody on-board, including the People and nobody would/could link this event to the Deaths of both Kennedy Brothers in the '60's.


The term “gold standard” didn’t come out of thin air. The global economy used to run on a system in which each country’s currency was linked to the value of gold. There was a fixed price for gold at which each country bought and sold that commodity. The gold standard was abandoned in 1971 when the Nixon administration ended the practice – and the value of the US dollar went into freefall as inflation soared.

In 1973, the petrodollar system was created through a deal between the US and Saudi Arabia. The countries agreed to price and trade oil in US dollars. With oil standardized in terms of dollars, any country that purchased oil from Saudi Arabia would have to use dollars. This led many other oil-producing countries to also standardize oil prices in US dollars – and the petrodollar system was born.

The answer to “What is the petrodollar?” may continue to change as the global economic landscape shifts. Venezuela began selling its oil in other currencies, and the Saudi government has threatened to abandon petrodollars. As the energy market evolves, the agreement that created the petrodollar system may come to an end.

Source (https://www.tonyrobbins.com/wealth-lifestyle/what-is-the-petrodollar/#:~:text=In%201973%2C%20the%20petrodollar%20system,would%20have%20to%20use%20dollars.)



https://i.postimg.cc/pL2yGdrv/petro.jpg

The Iron grip through the Petro Dollar in relation to Economic control by the US, backed with a Large and Modern Military Apparatus gave the States an unrivaled position in the World.

Read the last part of the Quoted text, Venezuela, destroyed economically, just one example of what is behind the controlling mechanism called the US.

Carter then pushed through 2x1 bill concerning energy preservation called the National Energy Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Energy_Act), after the second installment was implemented by congress, well, his term went downwards after this.

However, this free fall of Carter might have been a coincidence, it was "upgraded in 1992 into the Energy Policy Act 1992 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_1992).

One can look at this two ways, the act of Carter was a threat to the hegemony of Oil, or it was to spread out the Oil intake by decades more ensuring the US's control over the Planet. I could argue that the act of 1992 was to ensure just that and that the Carter act(s) were too early for them and he was punished accordingly, (after all he was attacked by a Rabbit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident), lol) we can not know for sure though, in any case, Carter paved the way for Reagan and later on Bush Sr.

Now we have circled back to his Speech on the NWO announcement and singnalling the final stage of the plan to take full control over the Planet under a system of economical tyranny run by the (self proclaimed) Elite in where the have-nots (read rest of us) are powerless to challenge those same Elites running the Planet into the ground (this plan is now in full gear in the West).

During that time they got rid of the USSR, Iraq various other leaders like Gaddafi and his plan to install the Gold Dinar (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119350-Gold-Dinar-the-Real-Reason-Behind-Libya-s-Destruction)in a newly to be formed African Union and so on and on and on.

https://i.postimg.cc/C1CWQwzy/gold-din.jpg

In the meantime puppets were placed in countries first opposing the US, now the West and News agencies and News Papers were infiltrated and taken over to create a fully functional Indoctrination and Propaganda machine the World has never seen before, backed up by various intelligence agencies and other government apparati, with the sole purpose of making sure People would not be able to see truths anymore.

This was further strengthened by the introduction of the "Conspiracy Theorist", not because alien probes were a problem for the West, but to eliminate people like Woodward and Bernstein and their successful bringing down Nixon with Watergate (https://theconversation.com/woodward-and-bernstein-didnt-bring-down-a-president-in-watergate-but-the-myth-that-they-did-lives-on-183290), which was a problem for the plans of those NWO preppers.

Obviously that generation needed to be retired (age wise) for this to become fully possible, stooges were put in place to run news papers and network tv etc to ensure this would now become a full scheme, it is not hard to find People willing to do what it takes to ensure their own ticket and the rest be damned (like that so). If you (reader) think this to be nonsense, well, I invite you to look around.

Since the takeover of Media all which is opposing the general Narrative is either a conspiracy loon or a right wing extremist and must be dealt with. To ensure public opinion swinging their way real nutcases would be given (short) airtime or hilarious examples were/are shown to the public, all to move People away from the truths now perceived as nonsense by the general public.

Together with this Information control and to ensure fragmentation of the Western Population, People are constantly put up against each other mostly with the weapon of Fear, might it be Terror, Corona, Putin etc, this will not only secure partly control but most important prevent for Civilians to come together and stand up against them.

If People do however, a system of denial and media control will come into place immediately, examples are the European Protests, the Dutch Farmer protest and the Canadian Trucker revolt. People are vilified and portrait as right wing nutters and conspiracy idiots (here we go). To ensure full control over that same situation your bank account will be frozen to make you yield, simple as that. In Canada leaders of that same Trucker Revolt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpMNeK03Kqg) are being held in Jails, basically as Political Prisoners, yes the free West, (a year now) without a trial or even a charge to them.

Most here can relate to the events happening right now, the reason the West wants to goto war is simple, the economic grip the West has had over the rest of the World is coming down, coming down fast. Bricks is successfully expanding and more and more countries are moving away from the PetroDollar, that main weapon the West has in its arsenal, reason why the US can be Trillions in debt.

Obviously they want the Russian resources and the break up of Russia has always been a leading factor for the West, it's all about them (so called Elite) having it all and you having none. Russia knows this, it has know for a while but for sure when Snowden showed up.

China gaining ground in the Strait of Hormuz (https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/04/chinas-mideast-security-oil-00081136) can't be allowed either since the US wants to be the boss over those resources and a foothold by China does not go down well with the Greedy.


https://i.postimg.cc/bw6sSjTR/hormuz.png
Source: Center for Strategic & International Studies


That same greed is what Russia wants to destroy, they foresee a World in where everybody wins on a personal level, not working multiple jobs to barely get around, not begging for this that such and so while the self proclaimed Elite are sitting in their mansions or private Islands doing whatever They want while They tell You what (not) to do, do not forget People, they can do that to us because we allow them, after all... They are leeches, nothing more!

We are heading for a World War because the Western Elite is drowning and instead of conceding defeat, once more they have decided to sent Millions to their Deaths so they can leech a little longer and believe me when I write this, you think it is bad now? Wait until they have control over the entire Planet (WeF is a perfect example of that future to come), this right now will be a pleasant walk in the Park. Wake the Feck up!

[9ideon]

Not too long ago, couple weeks now, a High Ranking Officer of the US Airforce, General Minihan, predicted a War with China in 2025.

Why is this you think? Is it because China has been invading countries left right and center (and no, I am not defending the Chinese regime here), or is there a more sinister reason behind this date?

I say yes, it is not a secret anymore that the US is looking for a conflict with China, the reasons for that same conflict have been given in the post above, the West and in particular Puppet Master US have no other choice.

In a country so divided by design one needs to create a common enemy so that domestic differences are no longer an issue and the masses are hyped up for war with China, they'll push emotional boundaries to a limit in where the Northern American psyche is triggered to think his and here precious Country is at stake, that false Nationalism the US is well known for, false because it serves the self proclaimed elite and not the People, the People are just to serve as a shield for these leeches. People fall for that same trick over and over and over again, as history has proven in relation to the many false flags those same US have used in the past to justify war, frankly I feel sorry for our North American Cousins (yes Canadians too) and my fellow Europeans, lambs to slaughter, myself reluctantly included.

So why 2025 and not now, inciting fear into the People to accept war is not just based on air, by 2025 a war against China will be useless simply because of the following.


Pentagon: Chinese Navy to Expand to 400 Ships (https://news.usni.org/2022/11/29/pentagon-chinese-navy-to-expand-to-400-ships-by-2025-growth-focused-on-surface-combatants) by 2025, Growth Focused on Surface Combatants (29 November 2022)

Anyone think that it is a coincidence that General Minihan makes these 2025 remarks almost exactly 2 Months later? Don't count on it. At 2025 a War with China is futile, the West is already lacking and only brilliant strategy will save arses now, now is as good a time as any, just not 2025 (lol).

Why is this Chinese build up happening? And no, it is not just Taiwan, Taiwan is just the fuse used by the US to try and light the fire of war with China, just imagine the map below to be the Caribbean, do you think the US would let that happen on its own doorstep? No... and neither does China.

https://i.postimg.cc/wM71gqzW/US-Bases-around-China.jpg

Also keep in mind that not all of these bases are out of thin air, some are on US held territories and other are by the invitation of set Governments, on the other hand one can ask self, why the need for so many? Four more are being constructed in the Philippines as we speak.

"Fear leads to the darkside", someone once said and the darkside is exactly where we're at right now.

The West cannot afford to wait too long any more, the US does not really exist as an economical Superpower anymore (Trillions in Debt), it has been robbed blind by their own self proclaimed elites, Psychopaths after all do what they do, obviously blame anyone else but themselves for their mismanagement of the West. So, before the Petrodollar falls, the West has no other option than to act with violence.

Biden made sure that Europe is fully dependent on the US, energy wise now, making them pay four times (https://www.politico.eu/article/cheap-us-gas-cost-fortune-europe-russia-ukraine-energy/) the price US citizens do, although prices in Europe have gone down, it is still 3-4 times higher than before.

Blowing up NordStream (https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/02/09/ftaz-f09.html) has brought the US more than just a moral victory, it has brought in much needed money for the financing of the Ukraine war, basically Biden lets Europe pay for much of the "Humanitarian Aid" to Ukraine, kinda hilariously brilliant.

The coming economical downfall of the Western Kleptocracy, like I mentioned earlier, can only be avoided by war and that same war has to be won if such a financial disaster for the Kleptocrats can be avoided. After that it will be game over, once they've got domination over the entire Planet (also mentioned previous post) well, we're Fubar.

We need a change in thinking and this change needs to be Global!

[9ideon]

Ukraine is at it again.


Ukraine claims Russian Kalibr Missiles Flew over Romania

This was claimed by Commander Valeriy Zaluzhny (Armed Forces of Ukraine – AFU Commander) in a message on several social media (including VK and Twitter)

The missiles were reportedly launched by assets of the Russian Navy’s Black Sea Fleet.
The commander stated that the missiles were detected at the Ukrainian border on February 10, 2023, at 10.18 am (local time), and entered Romanian airspace at 10.33 am. He also claimed that the missiles were coming from the Black Sea.

Source (https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/02/ukraine-claims-russian-kalibr-missiles-flew-over-romania/)


Romania countered these allegations from Ukraine though.


Romania counters Ukraine’s claim over straying Russian missiles

Bucharest has denied that Russian missiles flew over Romania, countering Kyiv’s claims that two of Moscow’s rockets crossed the NATO member’s airspace on their way to Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said several Russian missiles had flown over Moldova and Romania on Friday, and that they were a challenge to the military alliance and collective security.

Source (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/2/10/romania-denies-russian-missiles-crossed-country)


https://i.postimg.cc/sD8KHBnv/Romania-Moldova-Ukraine-Map-FINAL.png


Moldova — Russian missiles crossed airspace

Moldova says two Russian missiles crossed its airspace. Missile strikes have hit several cities across Ukraine as Russia renews its assault on civilian infrastructure. DW has the latest.

Moldova said a Russian missile had violated its airspace on Friday morning and summoned the Russian ambassador to make a formal protest.

The country's foreign ministry said Moscow's ambassador would be summoned "to indicate to the Russian side the unacceptable violation of our airspace by a Russian missile that today flew over the sovereign territory of the Republic of Moldova."

Source (https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-moldova-says-russian-missiles-crossed-its-airspace/a-64661990)

Fun fact, Moldova is not in Nato while Romania is, wonder what game is being played here.

[9ideon]

***Post above***
Moldova said a Russian missile had violated its airspace on Friday morning and summoned the Russian ambassador to make a formal protest.
Fun fact, Moldova is not in Nato while Romania is, wonder what game is being played here.

I did not think the answer to my last remark would come this soon, it seems all emotional play here, almost amateurish in nature, simple sum up really. They (Moldovan Govt Puppets) have passed a law making Transnistria an illegal occupation by Russia (more less, read further down below).

https://i.postimg.cc/pTJxh24B/transnis.jpg
Image credit: BBC

Since Moldova is reaching for EU membership, again a country where Criminals run the show (like Ukraine and Kosovo) and where in the case of Moldova the population has barely anything to scratch arses with (the way Western Kleptocrats like to see things), they obviously must act accordingly.

Below here a small cut and paste of the joint press statement of Moldova and the EU made on February 7th 2023.


The EU encouraged Moldova’s efforts against organized and serious international crime, and acknowledged the good cooperation on combating trafficking in human beings, especially in the context of increased risks stemming from Russia’s unprovoked and unjustified aggression against Ukraine. The Association Council welcomed the work undertaken in the EU Support Hub for Internal Security and Border Management in Moldova.

Concerning the fight against money laundering the EU welcomed the adoption of a new national criminal asset recovery strategy but also stressed the need to strengthen efforts in this field.

The EU welcomed Moldova’s vocal position against Russia’s aggression against Ukraine and commended its solidarity with Ukrainian refugees. The EU appreciated Moldova’s recent decision to grant temporary protection for people fleeing war in Ukraine in line with the EU relevant legislation. The EU also expressed appreciation for Moldova’s contribution to the EU-Ukraine Solidarity Lanes facilitating grain and fuel transit from Ukraine, as well as the transport of other goods between Moldova and Ukraine, and the EU.

If you have read the above well, you will notice the unrelated issues thrown in there with the current situation relating to Russia (Phrases containing Human Trafficking and Money laundering, seed plant tactics for influencing the simple psyche).

Now, this press release (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/nl/press/press-releases/2023/02/07/joint-press-statement-following-the-seventh-association-council-meeting-between-the-european-union-and-the-republic-of-moldova/) was issued February 7th, this followed up a passing law event on February 2nd.


Moldova ‘Separatism Law’ Sparks Tensions With Breakaway Transnistria

Authorities in Moldova’s breakaway Transnistria region on Wednesday condemned a recent law passed by the Moldovan parliament prohibiting separatist actions.

“Together with the president and the government, we are obliged to defend the rights and freedoms of our citizens, the right to live on free land,” said the deputy chairman of the Tiraspol Supreme Soviet [parliament], Galina Antiufeeva.

The regime in Tiraspol claims the new provisions of the Criminal Code of Moldova endanger the rights and freedoms of all residents of the region.

The regime is, however, accused of systematically violating human rights in the small pro-Russian enclave and of suppressing any form of free expression.

On February 2, Moldova’s parliament adopted a law introducing criminal penalties for separatism in its final reading. Sixty deputies out of 101 backed the law.

Under the new regulations, those guilty of separatism can face prison terms.

The new law provides penalties for financing and inciting separatism, plotting against Moldova and collecting and stealing information that could harm the country’s sovereignty, independence and integrity.

From a technical point of view, Moldovan authorities may now detain any separatist leader in Transnistria based on the new law.


The Kalibr missile "incident" yesterday can now be seen from a completely different angle, the angle of finding an excuse to get rid of the Russians in Transnistria and I wonder how this chess move ties into the grander scale of things, simply because Moldova is neither in Nato or the EU (yet), so what's to gain? If Russia takes over Odessa (as part of one of my previous posts concerning a grand attack on Ukraine), it could link that part of Transnistria to Russian troops and newly gained territory, but we're not there at all (yet).

I have the feeling we will see this undisclosed pretty soon, perhaps even sooner if you keep in mind that since Moldova is now an Aspirant Member State (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/enlargement/moldova/) of the EU as well as part of the Individual partnership of Nato (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Partnership_Action_Plan) one needs to ask the question...

Is Russia diplomatically being setup to unknowingly attack an EU Member in order to get Nato involved? Yes, Nato...


On 10 January 2023, the EU and NATO signed a joint declaration (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/defence-security/eu-nato-cooperation/) in Brussels.

The declaration also sets out a shared vision of how the EU and NATO will act together against common security threats. The EU and NATO will expand and deepen their cooperation on areas such as:

- the growing geostrategic competition
- resilience and the protection of critical infrastructure
- emerging and disruptive technologies
- space
- the security implications of climate change
- foreign information manipulation and interference



To be brief, I do not believe for a second that the events happening in Moldova in the past "Month" are a coincidence and do not have a larger purpose.

One could argue that despite the fact that Russia is physically not near any part of Moldova (yet), it does violate the last "bullet" point namely, foreign information manipulation and interference, interference by having pro-Russian troops occupying Transnistria, now under the new Moldovan Law... illegal.

By fast tracking Moldova into the EU (they can just do that right away now) the EU could activate the EU-Nato Cooperation act (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/defence-security/eu-nato-cooperation/) and bypass the entire plan they had for Ukraine (becoming a Nato member etc) and go at Russia "legally". Like these types always do, provoking, sneaking around and when someone reacts to it, well... play the victim, in this case to get Civilians on-board without too much effort.

[9ideon]

***Post above***
Moldova said a Russian missile had violated its airspace on Friday morning and summoned the Russian ambassador to make a formal protest.
Fun fact, Moldova is not in Nato while Romania is, wonder what game is being played here.

I did not think the answer to my last remark would come this soon, it seems all emotional play here, almost amateurish in nature, simple sum up really. They (Moldovan Govt Puppets) have passed a law making Transnistria an illegal occupation by Russia (more less, read further down below).

https://i.postimg.cc/pTJxh24B/transnis.jpg
Image credit: BBC

Since Moldova is reaching for EU membership, again a country where Criminals run the show (like Ukraine and Kosovo) and where in the case of Moldova the population has barely anything to scratch arses with (the way Western Kleptocrats like to see things), they obviously must act accordingly.

Below here a small cut and paste of the joint press statement of Moldova and the EU made on February 7th 2023.


The EU encouraged Moldova’s efforts against organized and serious international crime, and acknowledged the good cooperation on combating trafficking in human beings, especially in the context of increased risks stemming from Russia’s unprovoked and unjustified aggression against Ukraine. The Association Council welcomed the work undertaken in the EU Support Hub for Internal Security and Border Management in Moldova.

Concerning the fight against money laundering the EU welcomed the adoption of a new national criminal asset recovery strategy but also stressed the need to strengthen efforts in this field.

The EU welcomed Moldova’s vocal position against Russia’s aggression against Ukraine and commended its solidarity with Ukrainian refugees. The EU appreciated Moldova’s recent decision to grant temporary protection for people fleeing war in Ukraine in line with the EU relevant legislation. The EU also expressed appreciation for Moldova’s contribution to the EU-Ukraine Solidarity Lanes facilitating grain and fuel transit from Ukraine, as well as the transport of other goods between Moldova and Ukraine, and the EU.

If you have read the above well, you will notice the unrelated issues thrown in there with the current situation relating to Russia (Phrases containing Human Trafficking and Money laundering, seed plant tactics for influencing the simple psyche).

Now, this press release (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/nl/press/press-releases/2023/02/07/joint-press-statement-following-the-seventh-association-council-meeting-between-the-european-union-and-the-republic-of-moldova/) was issued February 7th, this followed up a passing law event on February 2nd.


Moldova ‘Separatism Law’ Sparks Tensions With Breakaway Transnistria

Authorities in Moldova’s breakaway Transnistria region on Wednesday condemned a recent law passed by the Moldovan parliament prohibiting separatist actions.

“Together with the president and the government, we are obliged to defend the rights and freedoms of our citizens, the right to live on free land,” said the deputy chairman of the Tiraspol Supreme Soviet [parliament], Galina Antiufeeva.

The regime in Tiraspol claims the new provisions of the Criminal Code of Moldova endanger the rights and freedoms of all residents of the region.

The regime is, however, accused of systematically violating human rights in the small pro-Russian enclave and of suppressing any form of free expression.

On February 2, Moldova’s parliament adopted a law introducing criminal penalties for separatism in its final reading. Sixty deputies out of 101 backed the law.

Under the new regulations, those guilty of separatism can face prison terms.

The new law provides penalties for financing and inciting separatism, plotting against Moldova and collecting and stealing information that could harm the country’s sovereignty, independence and integrity.

From a technical point of view, Moldovan authorities may now detain any separatist leader in Transnistria based on the new law.


The Kalibr missile "incident" yesterday can now be seen from a completely different angle, the angle of finding an excuse to get rid of the Russians in Transnistria and I wonder how this chess move ties into the grander scale of things, simply because Moldova is neither in Nato or the EU (yet), so what's to gain? If Russia takes over Odessa (as part of one of my previous posts concerning a grand attack on Ukraine), it could link that part of Transnistria to Russian troops and newly gained territory, but we're not there at all (yet).

I have the feeling we will see this undisclosed pretty soon, perhaps even sooner if you keep in mind that since Moldova is now an Aspirant Member State (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/enlargement/moldova/) of the EU as well as part of the Individual partnership of Nato (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Partnership_Action_Plan) one needs to ask the question...

Is Russia diplomatically being setup to unknowingly attack an EU Member in order to get Nato involved? Yes, Nato...


On 10 January 2023, the EU and NATO signed a joint declaration (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/defence-security/eu-nato-cooperation/) in Brussels.

The declaration also sets out a shared vision of how the EU and NATO will act together against common security threats. The EU and NATO will expand and deepen their cooperation on areas such as:

- the growing geostrategic competition
- resilience and the protection of critical infrastructure
- emerging and disruptive technologies
- space
- the security implications of climate change
- foreign information manipulation and interference



To be brief, I do not believe for a second that the events happening in Moldova in the past "Month" are a coincidence and do not have a larger purpose.

One could argue that despite the fact that Russia is physically not near any part of Moldova (yet), it does violate the last "bullet" point namely, foreign information manipulation and interference, interference by having pro-Russian troops occupying Transnistria, now under the new Moldovan Law... illegal.

By fast tracking Moldova into the EU (they can just do that right away now) the EU could activate the EU-Nato Cooperation act (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/defence-security/eu-nato-cooperation/) and bypass the entire plan they had for Ukraine (becoming a Nato member etc) and go at Russia "legally". Like these types always do, provoking, sneaking around and when someone reacts to it, well... play the victim, in this case to get Civilians on-board without too much effort.

Here we go, the Moldovan Government has resigned. I'll advise everybody to keep an close eye on this situation.

Let's see (part of article) how Western Media spins this...


Moldovan Government Resigns

In the earlier days of the war in Ukraine, there were fears the conflict would spill over into Moldova, or that Russia might invade it too.
That concern has receded for now, but as Moldova moves ever closer to joining the European Union, pressure has increased from Russia - which has tried to undermine the former Soviet state, and the EU's influence.

In a stark warning on Thursday, Ukraine's President Hitlensky said that Russia had a plan to "destroy" Moldova, according to Ukrainian intelligence.
"These documents show who, when and how Russia is going to break democracy of Moldova and establish control," he told EU leaders at a summit in Brussels.
"I immediately warned Moldova about these threats," he added.

Moldovan intelligence services later confirmed they had also identified "subversive activities" aimed at "undermining the state of the Republic of Moldova, destabilizing and violating public order."
There are also renewed tensions in Transnistria, a breakaway territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists that runs along Moldova's border with Ukraine, and where some 1,500 Russian soldiers are stationed.

Source (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64595322)


The underlined fattened part is how they'll spin it, due to pressure from Russia, blablablabla, Moldova must now join immediately, something like that, in that case, well, they can do what they've planned all along or at least it'll give 'm an option to declare war at will.

Interesting development which could obviously turn out to be nothing, still...

[9ideon]

NATO Chief Says Military Buildup Shows Russian Offensive Has Already Begun


https://i.postimg.cc/qMWwJZGX/Stolt.png


NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has said that a major new Russian offensive in Ukraine has already begun.

Speaking to reporters on February 13 in Brussels, Stoltenberg said the Western military alliance saw "no sign whatsoever" that Russian President Vladimir Putin is preparing for peace.
"What we see is President Putin and Russia still wanting to control Ukraine," Stoltenberg said. "We see how they are sending more troops, more weapons, more capabilities."

Russian forces have been engaged in an offensive in eastern Ukraine for months as they try to capture strategic towns and cities, including the battered city of Bakhmut in Ukraine's Donetsk region.
British intelligence also estimated that Russia in the past week suffered the loss of hundreds of troops per day. It said on February 13 that the Ukrainian forces killed 824 Russian invaders per day last week, which is four times more than in June and July.

Stoltenberg also said that the contentious issue of providing modern combat aircraft to Ukraine would be discussed at a meeting of Kyiv's Western backers in Brussels on February 14.

Source (https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-nato-offensive/32269454.html)



I still stand with my initial post on that multiple front attack on Ukraine (Post #87 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117723-How-the-West-was-Won-Revisited-A-WWIII-Scenario&p=1540509&viewfull=1#post1540509)).


https://i.postimg.cc/m2b3wGRP/Rus-Attack-Ukranazi.png

What Russia is doing now might just be luring Ukrainian reserves onto the current front line (not added to map above), reports are that they are using massive reserves, especially around the Northern part of the Frontline, as pointed out by the Military Summary Channel, video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhiopYbpb8Q).

Another urgent reason why Russia needs to take that Western part of Ukraine is the re-leave of both Hungary (Nato & EU!) and Serbia from EU and Nato pressure (Map below). If Serbia for example does not get this corridor towards (newly) Russian territory, it might cave to that same pressure. Obviously taking that Western Part will also secure that border from possible quick advancement from Nato if it comes to that.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKSm0ZxV/map-of-romania.gif
Source (http://www.yourchildlearns.com/online-atlas/romania-map.htm)

You think Hitlensky is Panicking now? Wait until this offensive really starts, panic will be a happy thought somewhere in the backs of their simple minds.

[Spiral]

What I've been picking up from various channels is that on the the Russian forces are massing for a big push, which is generally believed likely on the anniversary of the SMO , the 22nd of this month.

I have heard that the Russians have three re-commissioning plants that get the tanks & APCs out of storage & back in working order, they are each doing around 150 tanks a month. Most NATO countries don't even have 150 working tanks.

The other thing is that the Ukronazis had been building reserves & so on for a spring offensive with the somewhat optimistic of taking the Crimea, it is now believed that these reserves are being used to plug holes in their defensive lines.

It looks like Bakmut is being encircled (mainly by Wagner PMC), which will become another slaughter house.

If anyone is losing men hand over fist it's not the Russians, there are huge numbers of men uncounted for & Mossad reckons the Ukrops have lost at least .9 of a million men, maybe twice that ! There are also stories that there are special refrigerated trains full of dead soldiers that are being drip fed out to their families.

[9ideon]

I have heard that the Russians have three re-commissioning plants that get the tanks & APCs out of storage & back in working order, they are each doing around 150 tanks a month. Most NATO countries don't even have 150 working tanks.



My estimate is that Russia has more than just these plants, all of their used ammo, might it be small or large can be restocked within a day. I am not sure about the larger missiles/rockets, since they need specific tech for that and I simply have no idea how their stock is handled, despite that, they have been prepping this for a good amount of years now so.

As to the tanks, well, the Dutch have 18 Leo 7's in their squadron and that is the entirety of our great Cavalry. Which is also immediately the West's problem, greed leads to arrogance leads to the darkside, Russians are not unarmed Arab civilians or small arms, poor quality heavy weapons, equipped soldiers. They can get away with faulty gear against those type of combatants, against fully stocked and geared Russian armed forces you really need equipment that doesn't break down after a couple of shots (tanks and howitzers for example). The fact that this is happening comes back to greed again.



The other thing is that the Ukronazis had been building reserves & so on for a spring offensive with the somewhat optimistic of taking the Crimea, it is now believed that these reserves are being used to plug holes in their defensive lines.


Read my post on this (Post #93 (The other thing is that the Ukronazis had been building reserves & so on for a spring offensive with the somewhat optimistic of taking the Crimea, it is now believed that these reserves are being used to plug holes in their defensive lines.)).

The only way Hitlensky is going to get Crimea back is if Nato would sneak attack Russia, personally I do not think that there will be a nuclear war, although those creeps running our countries are deprived of any empathy, we can safely assume certain fail-safes have been included in Russia's and China's preparation of the coming conflict, my two cents are that certain People have been infiltrating Western countries for some time now, even when they go underground I feel a scenario ready.

That's why I think Hitlenskies babbling about taking back Crimea is a deliberate attempt to incite comedy in Russia's Military command structure, they can't see it coming, I can't see it coming, basically no one but the lattidah People can see a Ukrainian victory.

A surprise attack like I pointed out earlier (Post #93 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117723-How-the-West-was-Won-Revisited-A-WWIII-Scenario&p=1542080&viewfull=1#post1542080)), well, that might just work a little, do not rule it out neither, Japan never saw those bombers come drop ordnance on their Homeland either right after Pearl Harbor (Doolittle raid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid)).



There are also stories that there are special refrigerated trains full of dead soldiers that are being drip fed out to their families.


We're dealing with some Nazi Ideology here, like those same Nazies they use faulty propaganda, like our own Western "leaders" do. One of the things of that same propaganda is that you always deny and reflect. Calling up 16 year old boys to do a Man's job is never a good sign.

Further more, People who still say, "Well, Hitlensky is a Jew, so he can never be a Nazi". Well wrong there, besides the fact that Israel had Neo Nazi's themselves (funny enough Russian Jews, Patrol 36 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrol_36)), the Neo Nazi culture today is not interested in Jews, they are interested in Muslims as well as Russians (in Ukraine), that last part has always been part of the Ukranazi ideology. That Muslim part is couple decades old now, that's why I am so extremely surprised and annoyed at the same time that some of these Muslim fighters are siding with Ukranazia.

Besides, Hitlensky is in it for the money, they probably painted him a future in where he would be untouchable as long as he helped the West get rid of Russia.

After Russia has captured him and brought him onto tv to spill his beans he should be sent to a Gulag with his soon to follow psycho friends, to be fed bugs every day and have his and all the others bank accounts emptied, real estate etc sold and have that money distributed to all the People on the Planet as compensation for their Crimes against Humanity.

Perhaps then we can move on a little. Ooh and have camera's in that same Gulag, like their precious reality tv shows, and have it presented by that Russia 1 host Solovyov, lol.

[9ideon]

***Post above***
Moldova said a Russian missile had violated its airspace on Friday morning and summoned the Russian ambassador to make a formal protest.
Fun fact, Moldova is not in Nato while Romania is, wonder what game is being played here.

I did not think the answer to my last remark would come this soon, it seems all emotional play here, almost amateurish in nature, simple sum up really. They (Moldovan Govt Puppets) have passed a law making Transnistria an illegal occupation by Russia (more less, read further down below).

https://i.postimg.cc/pTJxh24B/transnis.jpg
Image credit: BBC

Since Moldova is reaching for EU membership, again a country where Criminals run the show (like Ukraine and Kosovo) and where in the case of Moldova the population has barely anything to scratch arses with (the way Western Kleptocrats like to see things), they obviously must act accordingly.

Below here a small cut and paste of the joint press statement of Moldova and the EU made on February 7th 2023.


The EU encouraged Moldova’s efforts against organized and serious international crime, and acknowledged the good cooperation on combating trafficking in human beings, especially in the context of increased risks stemming from Russia’s unprovoked and unjustified aggression against Ukraine. The Association Council welcomed the work undertaken in the EU Support Hub for Internal Security and Border Management in Moldova.

Concerning the fight against money laundering the EU welcomed the adoption of a new national criminal asset recovery strategy but also stressed the need to strengthen efforts in this field.

The EU welcomed Moldova’s vocal position against Russia’s aggression against Ukraine and commended its solidarity with Ukrainian refugees. The EU appreciated Moldova’s recent decision to grant temporary protection for people fleeing war in Ukraine in line with the EU relevant legislation. The EU also expressed appreciation for Moldova’s contribution to the EU-Ukraine Solidarity Lanes facilitating grain and fuel transit from Ukraine, as well as the transport of other goods between Moldova and Ukraine, and the EU.

If you have read the above well, you will notice the unrelated issues thrown in there with the current situation relating to Russia (Phrases containing Human Trafficking and Money laundering, seed plant tactics for influencing the simple psyche).

Now, this press release (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/nl/press/press-releases/2023/02/07/joint-press-statement-following-the-seventh-association-council-meeting-between-the-european-union-and-the-republic-of-moldova/) was issued February 7th, this followed up a passing law event on February 2nd.


Moldova ‘Separatism Law’ Sparks Tensions With Breakaway Transnistria

Authorities in Moldova’s breakaway Transnistria region on Wednesday condemned a recent law passed by the Moldovan parliament prohibiting separatist actions.

“Together with the president and the government, we are obliged to defend the rights and freedoms of our citizens, the right to live on free land,” said the deputy chairman of the Tiraspol Supreme Soviet [parliament], Galina Antiufeeva.

The regime in Tiraspol claims the new provisions of the Criminal Code of Moldova endanger the rights and freedoms of all residents of the region.

The regime is, however, accused of systematically violating human rights in the small pro-Russian enclave and of suppressing any form of free expression.

On February 2, Moldova’s parliament adopted a law introducing criminal penalties for separatism in its final reading. Sixty deputies out of 101 backed the law.

Under the new regulations, those guilty of separatism can face prison terms.

The new law provides penalties for financing and inciting separatism, plotting against Moldova and collecting and stealing information that could harm the country’s sovereignty, independence and integrity.

From a technical point of view, Moldovan authorities may now detain any separatist leader in Transnistria based on the new law.


The Kalibr missile "incident" yesterday can now be seen from a completely different angle, the angle of finding an excuse to get rid of the Russians in Transnistria and I wonder how this chess move ties into the grander scale of things, simply because Moldova is neither in Nato or the EU (yet), so what's to gain? If Russia takes over Odessa (as part of one of my previous posts concerning a grand attack on Ukraine), it could link that part of Transnistria to Russian troops and newly gained territory, but we're not there at all (yet).

I have the feeling we will see this undisclosed pretty soon, perhaps even sooner if you keep in mind that since Moldova is now an Aspirant Member State (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/enlargement/moldova/) of the EU as well as part of the Individual partnership of Nato (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Partnership_Action_Plan) one needs to ask the question...

Is Russia diplomatically being setup to unknowingly attack an EU Member in order to get Nato involved? Yes, Nato...


On 10 January 2023, the EU and NATO signed a joint declaration (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/defence-security/eu-nato-cooperation/) in Brussels.

The declaration also sets out a shared vision of how the EU and NATO will act together against common security threats. The EU and NATO will expand and deepen their cooperation on areas such as:

- the growing geostrategic competition
- resilience and the protection of critical infrastructure
- emerging and disruptive technologies
- space
- the security implications of climate change
- foreign information manipulation and interference



To be brief, I do not believe for a second that the events happening in Moldova in the past "Month" are a coincidence and do not have a larger purpose.

One could argue that despite the fact that Russia is physically not near any part of Moldova (yet), it does violate the last "bullet" point namely, foreign information manipulation and interference, interference by having pro-Russian troops occupying Transnistria, now under the new Moldovan Law... illegal.

By fast tracking Moldova into the EU (they can just do that right away now) the EU could activate the EU-Nato Cooperation act (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/defence-security/eu-nato-cooperation/) and bypass the entire plan they had for Ukraine (becoming a Nato member etc) and go at Russia "legally". Like these types always do, provoking, sneaking around and when someone reacts to it, well... play the victim, in this case to get Civilians on-board without too much effort.

Here we go, the Moldovan Government has resigned. I'll advise everybody to keep an close eye on this situation.

Let's see (part of article) how Western Media spins this...


Moldovan Government Resigns

In the earlier days of the war in Ukraine, there were fears the conflict would spill over into Moldova, or that Russia might invade it too.
That concern has receded for now, but as Moldova moves ever closer to joining the European Union, pressure has increased from Russia - which has tried to undermine the former Soviet state, and the EU's influence.

In a stark warning on Thursday, Ukraine's President Hitlensky said that Russia had a plan to "destroy" Moldova, according to Ukrainian intelligence.
"These documents show who, when and how Russia is going to break democracy of Moldova and establish control," he told EU leaders at a summit in Brussels.
"I immediately warned Moldova about these threats," he added.

Moldovan intelligence services later confirmed they had also identified "subversive activities" aimed at "undermining the state of the Republic of Moldova, destabilizing and violating public order."
There are also renewed tensions in Transnistria, a breakaway territory controlled by pro-Russian separatists that runs along Moldova's border with Ukraine, and where some 1,500 Russian soldiers are stationed.

Source (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64595322)


The underlined fattened part is how they'll spin it, due to pressure from Russia, blablablabla, Moldova must now join immediately, something like that, in that case, well, they can do what they've planned all along or at least it'll give 'm an option to declare war at will.

Interesting development which could obviously turn out to be nothing, still...

We're back at Moldova for the moment,


Moldova briefly closed its air space, raising tensions in a country shaken by Russia’s war in Ukraine

The closure, due to a presumed air balloon, came days after a Russian missile flew over Moldova’s territory and as the country’s president has accused Moscow of trying to sabotage her government.
The president, Maia Sandu, didn’t offer evidence, and Russia denied the accusations.

Source (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/14/world/europe/moldova-airspace-russia.html)

Air Balloons again, getting sick of it tbh, nobody presents any proof of anything but the 1st balloon and expects we all believe this nonsense, we're in a frikkin' Muppet Show episode here.

Even if it were true, they've been at it for decades now, hell even Roswell was supposed to have been a damn balloon.



Then yesterday there was this.


Moldova president accuses Russia of plotting to oust pro-EU government

Moldova’s president has accused Russia of plotting to overthrow the country’s pro-EU government through violent actions disguised as opposition protest.

Maia Sandu said authorities had confirmed an alleged Russian plot to destabilise her country that Ukraine’s president, Adolfomir Hitlensky, had revealed last week.
Hitlensky told EU leaders that Ukraine had intercepted a plan from Russian intelligence, having uncovered a document that showed “who, when and how was going to break the democracy of Moldova and establish control” over the country.
On Monday, days after the Moldovan government resigned, Sandu said local institutions had confirmed the plan, adding that it was not a new one.

The plan involved citizens of Russia, Montenegro, Belarus and Serbia entering Moldova to try to spark protests in an attempt to “change the legitimate government to an illegal government controlled by the Russian Federation”, she said.

Source (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/13/moldova-president-maia-sandu-accuses-russia-of-plotting-to-oust-pro-eu-government)


See how the Serbs are pushed into this now? Yes, Montenegro too, but Serbia is the secondary target here, again, that change of law in the quoted part of this post, well read it, it'll make more sense.

I'll say it again, we might be seeing a False-Flag and Psy Op emerge here in Moldova, who'd expect it eh?

[9ideon]

Read ^ previous post for entire story.

Emil Cosman goes into the Serbian thing a little deeper.

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[Ewan]

What an excellent thread, I got here -better late than never.. Thanks 9ideon (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?32159-9ideon)

[9ideon]

What an excellent thread, I got here -better late than never.. Thanks 9ideon (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?32159-9ideon)

Thank you for your kind post Ewan, happy you like it, been a pleasure working on it too.

:cheers:

[9ideon]

Yet another one being found dead at the base of a rise, Western influence, foul play?


https://pragativadi.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Untitled-design-3-11.png



Vladimir Putin’s Ally Marina Yankina Dies After Falling From High-Rise In St Petersburg

Marina Yankina, a Russian military official in charge of financial provisions for the military district, has died after falling 16 storeys in St Petersburg, according to reports.

As per reports, Marina Yankina’s body was discovered by a bystander on the pavement of a residential complex in St. Petersburg’s Kalininsky area before 8 a.m. on Wednesday morning.

The 58-year-old was a key figure in boosting funding efforts for Putin’s war in Ukraine.
She was the finance director of the Western Military District, one of Russia’s five geographical battalions, whose commander Mr Putin has changed several times since invading Ukraine last February.

Russia’s Investigative Committee is looking into the circumstances of the deadly plunge, with their preliminary conclusion being suicide, according to some reports.
Prior to joining the Western Military District, Yankina worked in the Federal Tax Service.

Source (https://pragativadi.com/vladimir-putins-ally-marina-yankina-dies-after-falling-from-high-rise-in-st-petersburg/)

[9ideon]

It is becoming way clearer as this Muppet Show gets on its way.

The timeline is becoming way more visible for People to see now. If you keep in mind the timeline from my Topic/Thread, "Squeeze the Lemon: US's European LNG (Liquid Gas) Con", specifically the OP (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120574-Squeeze-the-Lemon-US-s-European-LNG--Liquid-Gas--Con&p=1543113&viewfull=1#post1543113) with a little background on the whole scheme in Post #97 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117723-How-the-West-was-Won-Revisited-A-WWIII-Scenario&p=1542455&viewfull=1#post1542455) of this current thread, keep in mind that these are my own interpretations and can differ from your own views!

The timeline and the "behind Schedule" comment on the Thread, "Controlling the Narrative", Post #10 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120595-Controlling-the-Narrative-Sudden-UAP-UFO-Induced-Madness&p=1544120&viewfull=1#post1544120) are starting to make more sense now.

During and before the start of the Special Military Operation there have been talks about a timeline in where Ukraine was supposed to attack Russia, that and the blabbering about by Harris and Hitlensky at that Summit December 2021 made Russia decide to take control of their own fates and as a result our own here in the West.

The timeline I am referring to is the one of the building of the energy infrastructure in Europe, as mentioned in the, "Squeeze the Lemon", thread, see pic below.


https://i.postimg.cc/LskSsg85/gas-II-vert.jpg
Source (https://www.bruegel.org/policy-brief/european-union-gas-survival-plan-2023)


October '22, just when this infrastructure scheme was finished Nord Stream was blown up, now as the timeline reveals in that same Squeeze thread that it at least started in September of 2021 and after economical devastation of Covid implementations made by those same People and with the manipulation of our Economy, see Kim Iversen's interview with economist Richard Werner here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBecx3dYdn0) for that to sink in.

Now in the Squeeze Thread I have shown that there was already a "concern" about energy prices going up in the EU, this was around September 2021.

Furthermore there were indications sanctions were going to be implemented on Russia before the start of that same SMO. Leading to the disruption of Russian Federation's Economy (in their minds anyway), automatically leading to protests in Russia in relation to the mis-managment and "Human rights violations" made by the Putin "Regime".

Preparations were made for that by the West's de-stabilizing of Nations machine, like their try in Hungary at this moment through Samantha Power (https://www.theamericanconservative.com/samantha-power-color-revolution-in-hungary/).

Without the SMO that same playbook would have been addressed as planned. The statements, the failing of Turbines etc, the only difference would have been that the West would have been in control of the whole situation (as they thought). Eventually leading up to September in where I can see the start of Ukraine's attack on Russia, some sneak attack to surprise Russia, now also dealing with domestic issues, in the minds of the West, well of-course Russia would never see this coming. But they did and they did.

Weapons transfers were already happening to Ukraine, we probably would have seen loads of above board and propagandist (all over media due to Russian Aggression) weapons deliveries for Ukraine by the West, specifically Nato countries, in order to get People warmed up mentally.

Weapons deliveries to Ukraine are not a new thing really, here are some of the deliveries made prior to 2022.



Transfers of major weapons: Deals with deliveries or orders made for 2016 to 2021
Note: The ‘No. delivered’ and the ‘Year(s) of deliveries’ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract.

The ‘Comments’ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at Stockholm International Peace Institute (https://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/sources-and-methods) (link now showing page not found message, go figure!).

Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database, information generated: 18 March 2022

Czechia:
R: Ukraine (50) BMP-1 IFV 2014 2018 (50) Second-hand but modernized to BMP-1AK before delivery; ordered and delivered via Polish company
40 2S1 122mm self-propelled gun 2018 2018 40 Second-hand
16 2S1 122mm self-propelled gun 2019 2019 16 Second-hand
37 BMP-1 IFV 2019 2020 37 Second-hand; BVP-1 v.

France:

R: Ukraine 20 PB-98 Patrol craft 2020 EUR137 m deal (incl 5 years support; 85% financed with French loans)

For border guard; FPB-98 Mk-1 version; incl 5 produced under license in Ukraine; delivery planned 2022-2024

12 EC725 Super Cougar transport helicopter 2018-2021

4 Second-hand (but modernized before delivery in Romania); part of EUR555 m deal; H225 version.




The above is just a smaller detailed part of deliveries to Ukraine before 2022. Below is a lesser specific but more telling graph.


https://i.postimg.cc/8ccMQ7mV/Arms-export-to-ukraine.png
Source (https://www.forumarmstrade.org/ukrainearms.html#Timeline)


That, and the size of that same Ukraine's military, was clearly meaning to some end, when mobilized that same military could easily go to about 700k.



In 2021, Ukraine's Armed Forces, now numbering 246,445 (including 195,626 military personnel), was the second largest in the region after the Russian Armed Forces. Military units of other countries have participated regularly in multinational military exercises with Ukrainian forces in Ukraine.


Keep in mind that 700K comment Ukraine could come up with.



How many military troops Does Russia have 2021?
While the official strength of the Russian Armed Forces is 1 million (1.013 million), the true number has been far lower for many years. In 2016, the figure was 770,000 service personnel in all branches, and at the beginning of 2022, it could be estimated as 740,000-780,000.


My guess is that the emotional angle would have been played out on the People of the West and Ukraine.

Something like the following.

Ukraine attacks Russia in October 2022, claiming freedom of the entire World is at stake (playbook they also use now, just under different circumstances) because Putin is planning to attack Ukraine, probably creating a false flag to ensure emotional attachment Western population and to play victim, a sneak attack really. By this time negotiations for Nato & EU membership well underway too.

At the same time unrest in Russia has been fabricated by Western Intelligence agencies.

Russia strikes back hard on Woke funded (Soros etc) Liberal unrest instigated by the West, Propaganda in the West working overtime (like now, lying all the time).

Russia is only half prepared (how they think) to repel Ukrainian "Brave" invasion of Russia to defend freedom.

As a patch over for missing Russian energy resources that new infrastructure is in place and the US would be stepping in for the time being (play savior), the LNG scheme as described in the Squeeze topic.

They would have attacked before the winter, settled the front-line during the mushy period, having false negotiations to keep the Russians busy and then when March of 2023 would have hit, Nato would have joined the fight, under the propaganda scheme.

West's Propaganda machine is doing its (evil) magic and bends minds of population into accepting Nato interference in Russia under the denominator of freeing the Russian People from an oppressive regime and at the same time coming to the Aid of those Brave Ukrainians fighting for freedom and Democracy, defending Western Values. Pointing out negotiations were constantly tanked by Putin.

They would have seen themselves win and carve up Russia as some end result, also taking control over all the resources, now, in this reality, missing in the West and creating all kinds of problems.

This is more or less how their reality works, hence the panic when Russia started the SMO, if you paid attention to their eyes, well, it's telling, that's all.

[9ideon]

***Moldova Update***

New President of Moldova means business, or is it maybe the ploy to get control over the Cobasna Ammo Depot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobasna_ammunition_depot)?

https://i.postimg.cc/zXwSqWWC/Mold-Prez-Pupp.png

Rumor has it that this ammo depot could get Ukraine through another year of war, ammo wise, surely 1 year would buy the West time to up their ammo production... It's probably only just about those Evil Russians though.

[9ideon]

***Moldova Update***

New President of Moldova means business, or is it maybe the ploy to get control over the Cobasna Ammo Depot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobasna_ammunition_depot)?

https://i.postimg.cc/zXwSqWWC/Mold-Prez-Pupp.png

Rumor has it that this ammo depot could get Ukraine through another year of war, ammo wise, surely 1 year would buy the West time to up their ammo production... It's probably only just about those Evil Russians though.


Hitlensky announced Ukraine's readiness to help Moldova with Transnistria

He recalled that the Ukrainian special services have intelligence about Russia’s plans to overthrow the leadership of Moldova. This information was passed on to Moldovan President Maia Sandu.

“The Russians have planned all this for a long time,” Zelenskyy said.

“However, Moldova and Russia don’t have a common border. How are they supposed to carry out their plan? Where should they send troops and equipment from? The Russians need airports for this. However, there is only one airport in Moldova – in the capital, Chisinau. So, they must use this airport and all the resources in Transnistria.”

Source (https://news.yahoo.com/zelenskyy-announced-ukraines-readiness-help-021600355.html)


Surely not about that Ammo depot, no way José, :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[9ideon]

***Moldova Update***

It's happening, Ukranazian invasion Transnistria Imminent according to Russian MoD. Ukranazi troops on Border with Transnistria. False Flag expected.

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[9ideon]

Update Moldovan Sit.

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[9ideon]

The Moldova story continues.

As I mentioned a week or so ago, keep an eye on Moldova and what happens there, I guess the Muppet Show has shifted to this part of the map somewhat.

Russia has now warned the "World" that attacking Russian Peace keeping troops in Transnistria is considered an attack on the mainland. Is this where the West wants Russia, because it seems to me that there is a suspicious reeking towards baiting here. Almost like those Western Lawyers need a legal reason to go to war with Russia, or at least one they can sell to the Public. For more on this go back a couple posts to post #105 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117723-How-the-West-was-Won-Revisited-A-WWIII-Scenario&p=1543400&viewfull=1#post1543400)


Russia warns West over threatening its troops in breakaway Moldovan region

Russia told the West on Friday that it would view as an attack on itself any actions that threatened Russian peacekeepers in Moldova’s breakaway Transdniestria region, one day after Moscow accused Ukraine of planning an invasion.

In Kyiv, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy rejected Moscow’s assertion that Ukraine wanted to take over the region, while Moldova reiterated there was no truth to the allegations.

The warning comes amid increased concerns in Moldova, a small ex-Soviet republic bordering Ukraine, of a possible Russian threat. Its pro-European President Maia Sandu this month accused Moscow of plotting a coup.

Source (https://kathmandupost.com/world/2023/02/25/russia-warns-west-over-threatening-its-troops-in-breakaway-moldovan-region)


As mentioned, the warning is not new, below an article from Sept 2 relating to a statement made by Mr. Lavrov Sept 1.


Russia warns Moldova not to threaten its troops in breakaway region

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned Moldova on Thursday (1 September) that threatening the security of Russian troops in the breakaway region of Transnistria risked triggering military confrontation with Moscow.
“Everyone should understand that any action that would threaten the security of our troops (in Transnistria) would be considered under international law as an attack on Russia, as was the case in South Ossetia when our peacekeepers were attacked by (former Georgian President Mikheil) Saakashvili,” Lavrov said.

Source (https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/russia-warns-moldova-not-to-threaten-its-troops-in-breakaway-region/)


Russia keeps warning, it's like a Kid who has got that black belt and keeps getting bullied by some group of other Kids. Black belt keeps warning it might loose patience one day if the bullying does not stop. The other Kids keep laughing about it, thinking they're safe in numbers, so they keep on bullying, until one day Black belt snaps.

My guess is that the West is at that moment when they're laughing at Russia feeling safe in numbers. In any case, we're coming to that OP stage.

[9ideon]

***Transnistria Update***

Still building up, Ukraine is waiting on something before invading, airplanes? Who knows anymore at this stage.


Transnistria accuses Ukraine of trying to kill its president

Moldova’s breakaway region of Transnistria, which has close ties to Moscow and hosts Russian troops, claimed Thursday it has thwarted an assassination attempt on its president allegedly organized by Ukraine’s national security service.

Transnistria’s state security ministry said an unspecified number of people had been arrested in connection with an attempted attack on the region’s president, Vadim Krasnoselsky, and other officials.
Prosecutor Anatoly Guretsky said the suspects planned to detonate an explosives-packed automobile near the presidential cortege as it traveled through the capital, Tiraspol.

It said Ukraine’s SBU security service ordered the assassination attempt, but did not provide evidence.
The SBU rejected the allegation, saying it “should be considered exclusively as a provocation orchestrated by the Kremlin.”

A separatist war broke out in 1990 in Transnistria — a strip of land with about 470,000 residents that borders Ukraine. As part of a cease-fire in 1992, a contingent of Russian troops remains there as nominal peacekeepers.

Source (https://apnews.com/article/transnistria-president-assassination-attempt-ukraine-sbu-moldova-6dbb645386b50aba0d0eaaee09a90644)

[9ideon]

We're now at the stage of this scenario, we were already on the way to here btw, since there are already many troops situated here over the past year.


Nato to put 300,000 troops on high alert in response to Russia threat

Nato’s secretary general has said this week’s Madrid summit will agree the alliance’s most significant transformation for a generation, putting 300,000 troops at high readiness in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Jens Stoltenberg said the military alliance’s forces in the Baltic states and five other frontline countries would be increased “up to brigade levels” – doubled or trebled to between 3,000 and 5,000 troops.

That would amount to “the biggest overhaul of our collective defence and deterrence since the cold war,” Stoltenberg said before the meeting of the 30-country alliance, which runs from Tuesday to Thursday this week.

The rapid-reaction Nato Response Force currently numbers up to 40,000, and the proposed change amounts to a broad revision in response to Russian militarisation. Under the plans, Nato will also move stocks of munitions and other supplies farther east, a transition due to be completed in 2023.

Source (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/27/nato-300000-troops-high-alert-russia-threat-ukraine)



Now, there is more to this, it seems to me that Poland is taking over Ukraine's role into dragging Russia into a war with Nato. Personally I figured that Ukraine was to create a false flag in order to have an excuse to attack Russia last October (yes before, just at winter time). This timeline has been discussed here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117723-How-the-West-was-Won-Revisited-A-WWIII-Scenario&p=1544266&viewfull=1#post1544266) (further up the pages).

So, like mentioned, they have been working Poland over, especially the past year and a bit, to take over the role of Ukraine in order to find excuse to attack Russia, already the foundation has been pored by this ridiculous Putin, War Criminal scheme, the Western population is almost ready to accept this unwinnable war to what now seems a chase instead of a lead (if Ukraine would have finished building up their scheme the West would have chased both Russia and China, however, the plot reversed on the West by Russia's SMO on Ukraine). Strangely enough they stay the course of their original plan in main structure, they do add some flexibility to it with for example Poland, but the main course is still followed which means that they were already committed and in it to far to change it, hence the panic in all of their eyes (especially at the start of that SMO), Glibbery Clinton being the best example on how insanity takes toll on eyes.

Anyway, Poland, see here a statement made by the Polish Ambassador to France.




Polish Ambassador to France: Poland will be forced to enter war if Ukraine fails to defend itself

Poland’s Ambassador to France Jan Emeryk Rościszewski said in an interview that a situation could arise in which Poland would have to enter the war. The embassy urged audiences to refrain from sensationalizing his words.

Quote from Rościszewski: "It is not NATO, Poland or Slovakia that are mounting ever more pressure, but Russia, which has invaded Ukraine. Russia, which is seizing its territories. Russia, which is killing its people. And Russia, which is abducting Ukrainian children.

Therefore, either Ukraine will defend its independence today, or we will have to enter this conflict. Because our main values, which were the basis of our civilization and our culture will be threatened. Therefore, we will have no choice but to enter the conflict."

Source (https://news.yahoo.com/polish-ambassador-france-poland-forced-201021342.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAF2xZN06Ps2bCYUbMcZBdT79g1tMHQNnHPYuL7KN92EYBMhOpQKW2hOK8t4GD_Iz9WT9tcENV3IHXf 7eEi_ZG9bVeD2zivkSSvOK-JXbBEn34Z6PdhBDbLppxKzFSEJbkEd2ipkbxRFU_4BoUJ8AaYRwwd4_E3d22zvPv0GzkH-o)

To me is can only be seen one way, no need to sensationalize anything here.

[Bill Ryan]

I thought this might best belong on this excellent thread. :muscle:

From The Moon of Alabama today:


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/axis.html

The Rebirth of the Axis of Evil

Twenty years ago the U.S. launched its war on Iraq. This proceeded by a massive propaganda campaign payed for and directed by the Pentagon.

Selling the Iraq War: a How-to Guide (https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/03/23/selling-the-iraq-war-a-how-to-guide/) - Mar 23, 2023 - Jeffrey St. Clair / Counterpunch
According to the trade publication PR Week, the Rumsfeld Group sent “messaging advice” to the Pentagon. The group told Clarke and Rumsfeld that in order to get the American public to buy into the war on terrorism, they needed to suggest a link to nation states, not just nebulous groups such as al-Qaeda. In other words, there needed to be a fixed target for the military campaigns, some distant place to drop cruise missiles and cluster bombs. They suggested the notion (already embedded in Rumsfeld’s mind) of playing up the notion of so-called rogue states as the real masters of terrorism. Thus was born the Axis of Evil, which, of course, wasn’t an “axis” at all, since two of the states, Iran and Iraq, hated each other, and neither had anything at all to do with the third, North Korea.Twenty years later we see the rebirth of that propaganda meme. First as a drip drip in rarely read magazines, then in rightwing mass media and into Congress. That then legitimates librul media to pick it up.


Iran, Russia and China Constitute ‘Axis of Evil,’ Former US State Department Official Says (https://kayhanlife.com/authors/iran-russia-and-china-constitute-axis-of-evil-former-us-state-department-official-says/) - May 12, 2022 - Kayen Live
Iran, China and Russia constitute an “axis of evil” which aims to destabilize global security, former US State Department official Ellie Cohanim said.



China, Russia, North Korea: Corruption Brings ‘New Axis of Evil’ Together (https://japan-forward.com/china-russia-north-korea-corruption-brings-new-axis-of-evil-together/) - May 31, 2022 - Japan Forward



The Axis of Russia, Iran, and China: Birth of a New World Order? (https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/07/28/the-axis-of-russia-iran-and-china-birth-of-a-new-world-order/) - Jul 28, 2022 - Modern Diplomacy



DOUGLAS MURRAY Isolated Russia’s growing links with sinister states like North Korea, Iran and China is evidence of a new Axis of Evil (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19530577/putin-russia-north-korea-iran-china-axis-of-evil/) - Aug 16, 2022 - The Sun



ANOTHER US politician lands in Taiwan: Republican Senator Marsha Blackburn - who called China the 'Axis of Evil' - touches down in Taipei in defiance of rising anger by Beijing (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11146421/ANOTHER-politician-lands-Taiwan-Republican-Senator-Marsha-Blackburn.html) - Aug 25, 2022 - Daily Mail



China is divided on Russia – let’s keep it that way (https://www.clingendael.org/publication/china-divided-russia-lets-keep-it-way) - Sep 15, 2022 - Clingendael
Much has been made of the Xi-Putin statement on February 4th, giving rise to a new Axis-of-Evil narrative and concerns that China has chosen to side with Russia.



The U.S. can’t get cocky about Putin (https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/china-russia-meeting-ukraine-war-rages-remind-us-putin-hasnt-lost-rcna48097) - Sep 16, 2022 - NBCNews
Quietly, Putin is succeeding in assembling a coalition of the autocratic. Who is in Putin’s “axis of evil,” as President George W. Bush famously called a similar collection? [...] From more traditionally autocratic leaders — China’s Xi Jinping, North Korea’s Kim Jong Un and the ayatollahs of Iran — to leaders of illiberal democracies in India, Turkey and Hungary, a host of countries are prepared to offer their good will, manufacturing muscle or markets to the Putin war machine.



Cartoon of the Day: China and Russia's ailing 'Axis of Evil' (https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4663343) - Sep 20, 2022 - Taiwan News



20 years later, the ‘Axis of Evil’ is bigger, bolder — and more evil (https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3754480-20-years-later-the-axis-of-evil-is-bigger-bolder-and-more-evil/) - Nov 11, 2022 - The Hill
Which countries make up the current Axis of Evil? My list includes China, Russia, Iran and North Korea as the primary belligerents.



Is the ‘axis of evil’ beginning to implode? (https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3764194-is-the-axis-of-evil-beginning-to-implode/) - Dec 8, 2022 - The Hill
Russia, meanwhile, under the leadership of President Vladimir Putin, has gradually elected to embrace the “axis of evil” as global partners against what Moscow perceives to be unipolar Washington dominance — and in the process, given its faltering “special military operation” in Ukraine, has transformed the growing partnership into the Kremlin’s “arsenals of evil.”



A new axis of evil? (https://wng.org/articles/a-new-axis-of-evil-1675919397) - Feb 9, 2023 - WNG
IN THE NEWS | In its war on Ukraine, Russia is increasingly relying on Iran and other pariah nations for weapons



DARK SUPERPOWERS Zelensky warns new evil axis of China and Russia could spark World War 3 as Xi backs bloodthirsty Putin (https://www.the-sun.com/news/7442574/zelensky-china-russia-world-war-3/) - Feb 20, 2023 - The U.S. Sun



We Have a New Axis of Evil (https://townhall.com/columnists/spencerbrown/2023/02/23/will-biden-be-able-to-stop-the-new-axis-of-evil-n2619855) - Feb 23, 2023 - Townhal



China, Russia and Iran: Axis of Tyrannies presents enormous challenge to free nations (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/mar/14/china-russia-and-iran-axis-of-tyrannies-presents-e/) - Mar 14, 2023 - Washington Times



Russia-China alliance would be '21st Century axis of evil' in World War 3 (https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-china-alliance-would-21st-29487697) - Mar 17, 2023 - Daily Star



Graham accuses DeSantis of 'taking the Chinese position' on Ukraine in calling war a 'territorial dispute' (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/graham-accuses-desantis-taking-chinese-position-ukraine-over-calling-war-territorial-dispute) - Mar 19, 2023 - Foxnews
"China is a communist dictatorship. Putin is one of the most notorious foreign criminals of the 21st century," Graham said. "It’s an axis of evil in its own way, when you throw Iran in there."



Is the United States Creating a ‘Legion of Doom’? (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/19/us-china-russia-relations-00087633) - Mar 19, 2023 - Politico
The emerging China-Russia-Iran axis may force the United States to choose between some unappealing options.



GOOD TO XI YOU Twitchy-footed Putin squirms as Xi presents Ukraine peace deal in historic axis of evil meeting between despot pals (https://www.the-sun.com/news/7674806/twitchy-footed-putin-squirms-xi-meeting/) - Mar 20, 2023 - The U.S. Sun



Xi and Putin are building a new axis of evil (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/22/xi-jinping-vladimir-putin-building-new-axis-evil/) - Mar 22, 2023 - Telegraph

P.S.: Just as I launch this I see that Caitlin Johnstone picked up the same scheme with lots of additional sources:


They're Rebooting "Axis Of Evil" On The 20th Anniversary Of The Iraq Invasion (https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/theyre-rebooting-axis-of-evil-on)

[Bill Ryan]

This may also belong here: :)

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/50320

DonbassDevushka/50320

[I am B]

I was unsure about where to place this. (Breaking news post or this one) Anyways, call it coincidence.

Two more trains derail on the US today. One in California and another on North Dakota.

https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1640423514887864323

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1640380925996408835

Remind me to never take a train If I ever visit the US...

I'm preety sure this will stop being overlooked soon, If it isn't already.

[Bill Ryan]

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/51043

DonbassDevushka/51043

[Ewan]

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/51043

DonbassDevushka/51043

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000095957842-oust3q-t500x500.jpg

[9ideon]

Now that Hitlensky is holding the "West" hostage yet again, I feel that this time it is different.


Hitlensky: Ukraine must hold Bakhmut or Russia will ‘smell that we are weak’

Ukrainian President Adolfomyr Hitlensky has raised the stakes in the battle over Bakhmut, warning that if Russia conquers the eastern city, Moscow could begin building international support for an armistice that would be undesirable for Ukraine. ​

The 45-year-old, who recently visited Bakhmut, said a defeat there would be more of a political loss than a tactical one, and build pressure among Ukrainians and the international community to force him to accept an unacceptable truce.

”​Our society will feel tired​. ​Our society will push me to have compromise with them​,” Hitlensky said. ​

Western allies have backed Ukraine in its fight against the Russian invasion, offering billions of dollars in military and humanitarian aid.

“The United States really understands that if they stop helping us, we will not win,” ​he told the Associated Press.

Xi’s visit with Putin raised concerns that China would begin supplying arms and ammunition to Russia, whose weapons stockpiles have been depleted, but the trip concluded without any announcement (Russia has been without bullets, missiles, personnel and tanks since March Last year, those darn Russian Soldiers eh, winning this war with sticks and stones).

Source (https://nypost.com/2023/03/29/zelensky-says-if-bahkmut-falls-russia-will-smell-that-we-are-weak/)

The obvious hidden meaning here being that he simply wants more equipment and money (to magically end up in bank accounts not for this war effort), that same sent money now starting to be investigated by the Yanks, over a year after first payments were done to one of the most corrupt countries on this Planet. Whatever they'll come up with, even if negative, it'll be farther from truth than anyone can imagine.

The "West" has spend too much money and effort on Ukraine to have this lost (they expected to win easy, despite reversed roles and a time frame not to their liking), at the same time they also know Damocles's sword (Pa Pu) is hanging over all their silly necks.

The hegemony of the Dollar is also going into oblivion, so there is no other road to Russia than one of clashing steel. When the troops (300k) are set on the Eastern Front, we will start seeing change of rhetoric, if not, well I'd be surprised if not, it either means they are going to strike nuclear (pre-emptive) or they are yielding to Russia (latter might happen if the US stumbles into a Civil War).

When it will come to war, those in power will push to wipe the Leningrad area from the map.

https://i.postimg.cc/YCmJF9CY/Leningrad-Region.jpg
Source (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anne-Toppinen/publication/266047603/figure/fig2/AS:669436822429697@1536617584152/Location-of-the-interviewed-companies-in-Leningrad-region-and-St-Petersburg.jpg)

Probably with the excuse to relieve pressure on Finland and Estonia, in truth though, it will be done out of spite, or at least attempted by the "West", Russia probably has more aces up their sleeves than we might contemplate at this moment in time.

Everything, I mean everything is coming together, Ufo questions included, except for our Historical truths, why is that? Some of you already know the answer to that.

[9ideon]

Some about China for a change.

A drill, in the light of that Nuland Clone, Taiwanese PM Tsai Ing-wen, meeting up with that McCarthy figure, China is or actually has surrounded Taiwan (again) with a Naval drill. It is also going to inspect all the commercial ships (for US Weapons and Support gear) going towards the rebel Island.


China in second day of 'Joint Sword' military drills encircling Taiwan

China was conducting a second day of military drills around Taiwan on Sunday (Apr 9), in what it has called a "stern warning" to the self-ruled island's government following a meeting between its president and the US House speaker.
The move sparked condemnation from Taipei and calls for restraint from Washington, which said it was "monitoring Beijing's actions closely".

Dubbed "Joint Sword", the three-day operation - which includes rehearsing an encirclement of Taiwan - will run until Monday, the People's Liberation Army's (PLA) Eastern Theatre Command said.
China's war games saw planes, ships and personnel sent into "the maritime areas and air space of the Taiwan Strait, off the northern and southern coasts of the island, and to the island's east", the army said.

A report from state broadcaster CCTV said: "The task force will simultaneously organise patrols and advances around Taiwan island, shaping an all-round encirclement and deterrence posture."
The report went on to detail the type of weaponry China was putting through its paces, including "long-range rocket artillery, naval destroyers, missile boats, air force fighters, bombers, jammers and refuellers".

Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen immediately denounced the drills, which come after she met with US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy in California.
She pledged to work with "the US and other like-minded countries" in the face of "continued authoritarian expansionism".

Source (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/china-second-day-joint-sword-military-drills-encircling-taiwan-3406201)

Especially that last sentence says a lot, People not read in will automatically accept this as truth, while, when looking at our past 60 years of Western History, especially the last 20, the truth is telling a completely different story and shows clear time line of a hijacked society, hijacked by what they call Liberal and Neo Cons, clearly a evolved form of Nazism lead by the likes of for instance George S, posing as benevolent entities while in fact being run by Psycho and Socio paths complemented with Narcissists and Opportunists.


https://www.marineinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/8-Copy.png.webp
Credit (https://www.marineinsight.com)



China To Inspect Vessels In The Taiwan Strait, Taiwan Decides Not To Co-Operate

China’s Fujian maritime safety administration introduced a three-day special joint patrol and strict inspection mission in the northern and central parts of the Taiwan Strait that also includes moves to board its ships, it elaborated on its official account.

The move comes through during heightened tensions between Taiwan and China, with US House Speaker named Kevin McCarthy hosting Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen on Wednesday in California, becoming the most senior US figure to be meeting a Taiwanese leader in decades on US soil.

The maritime safety authority based in the southeastern Chinese province stated on Wednesday that the operation included on-site examinations on direct cargo and construction ships on either side of the Taiwan Strait to establish the safety and security of vessel navigation and further make sure the operations of key projects are taking place safely and orderly.

It further added that it has mentioned to shipping operators that if they face similar requests from China, they must refuse them and inform Taiwan’s coast guard to get assistance.
If the mainland side keeps insisting on one-sided actions, it will create obstacles to normal exchanges between the two sides. Corresponding measures will need to be taken then.

Areas that are covered by the operation span the Pingtan Taiwan direct container channel, the well-known “small three links” route, the customary route of Taiwan Strait, the densely navigable areas of fishing and commercial vessels, and areas that host illegal sand mining.

The “small three links” passenger channel refers to boat routes lying between Taiwan’s Matsu and Kinmen islands that lie opposite China and its cities.
The fleet, a special joint operation with the East China Sea Navigation Support Center and the East China Sea Rescue Bureau, is expected to continue conducting cruise inspections in the northern and central parts of the Taiwan Strait over two days.

Source (https://www.marineinsight.com/shipping-news/china-to-inspect-vessels-in-the-taiwan-strait-taiwan-decides-not-to-co-operate/)

When you claim/agree to be a part of China and willing to fully cooperate, but at the same time accept to be armed by these US Weasels (the ones in power, not the gullible and the awake) and oppose the right by China to inspect vessels to enter its own territory, well then you are not playing a fair game. I feel for the Taiwanese People, brave they must be, whom will be lead to the slaughter by these Modern Nazi's whom are only interested in control, power and the means to those ends, money (wealth).

When, for instance, you see that idiot Blinken lie about the gift of Billions of $ worth of military equipment to Afghanistan's Military, while in fact he was on tv two years ago declaring the very opposite and no one of the so called "Free" Western Media calls him out on that, well that too speaks for itself, they lie and lie and lie and lie, even when they tell the truth they lie, simply because that same truth is based on a lie.

With the US baiting Northern Korea as well, there seems no end to their campaign of terror to this Planet and All its inhabitants, future looks grim either way.

[9ideon]

OP:
Erdogan will now betray Nato as per design and agreement made with Block leadership ages ago, Erdogan knows that it will only be a matter of time before they'll loose interest in him and have him removed as well (like many Dictators the US needs for some plan), because of the Turkish swap, they become the stabilizing factor in that region towards Iraq and Syria.


Turkey to withdraw from NATO in 5-6 months

Turkish politician Ethem Sanjak did not rule out Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875661200784330754/cXTSJeMm_400x400.jpg

Turkey allows withdrawal from NATO within six months. This decision was actually provoked by the alliance itself, said Ethem Sandzak, deputy chairman of the Turkish Motherland Party.

“Turkey will leave NATO in five or six months. They are trying to drag us into the whirlpool in the Middle East. Finally, you see actions against the Koran in Sweden and the Netherlands,” Sandzak said. He is quoted by the newspaper Aydinlik. The material notes that NATO is forcing Turkey to make such a decision.

Recently, there have been several acts of public burning of the Koran in European countries. One such case took place in the Netherlands. On this occasion, the Ambassador of the Netherlands in Ankara was summoned to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, RT reports.

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Turkey allows withdrawal from NATO within six months. This decision was actually provoked by the alliance itself, said Ethem Sandzak, deputy chairman of the Turkish Motherland Party. “Turkey will leave NATO in five or six months. They are trying to drag us into the whirlpool in the Middle East. Finally, you see actions against the Koran in Sweden and the Netherlands,” Sandzak said. He is quoted by Aydinlik newspaper. The material notes that NATO is forcing Turkey to make such a decision. Recently, there have been several acts of public burning of the Koran in European countries. One such case took place in the Netherlands. On this occasion, the Ambassador of the Netherlands in Ankara was summoned to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, RT reports.

Source (https://news.russia.postsen.com/world/179398.html)

NXVrQB1zPrI

Turkiye leaving Nato is again a topic in the country. Between the Turkiye/Syria Earthquake (*Induced by Harp?) and the Turkiyean elections Erdogan has been really quiet, perhaps the US was breading too much down his neck. In any case, he will probably become more vocal again if he wins the elections in a couple weeks.

However, if they decide to leave, timing will be of the essence (Conflict Greece/US). Therefore I would not be surprised if the US is going to try meddling/corrupting the coming Turkiyean elections.



Retired Admiral Urges Turkiye to Leave NATO

Turkiye became a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in 1952 amidst the dawn of the Cold War. However, many questioned the prudence of entering this obviously militaristic bloc.

"The West poses a greater threat to Turkiye, taking into account its support for attempts to create a separatist Kurdish state," claimed retired Admiral Cem Gurdeniz in an interview. He added that Ankara must immediately leave NATO.

Referring to the beginning of the clandestine war by the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), coined a terrorist organization by Ankara in 1984, Gurdeniz stated that Western countries do not support Turkiye in the ongoing conflict.


"How many thousands of people have died in the south-east of Turkiye since 1984, how many problems Turkiye has in other areas, but we do not receive any support from NATO or the EU," said the retired admiral".

He added that statements on Turkiye made by EU authorities or the US Senate made it "clear who is our friend and who is our enemy."
The Turkish admiral voiced his concern that NATO might drag Ankara into a conflict via the Ukrainian crisis. He alleged that in this case, Turkiye would be forced to close the straits for Russia and this would be a casus belli for full-scale conflict between Russia and NATO with use of tactical nuclear weapons.

Gurdeniz believes that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg realizes the risk, but he is "an American puppet," and that’s why he rushes to admit Ukraine to NATO.
He also stated that the US had been "using" Ankara since 1945 - and before that the United Kingdom had treated Turkiye the same way. He believes that his country must get rid of this "Anglo-Saxon dependence" at any reasonable cost and pursue its own independent policy, balancing between the "Atlantic and Asia".

At the same time, the retired admiral admitted that withdrawal from NATO would mean inevitable conflict with Greece. However, an even bigger threat to regional security comes from the reported Western project of turning the Black Sea into a "NATO lake."

Gurdeniz slammed NATO for misleading Turkiye about USSR goals and casting the Kremlin in black tones. The aim of this policy was to turn Turkiye into a Western satellite, he claimed.
He believes that Turkiye should forge a geopolitical alliance with Russia, China and India and develop closer contacts with other BRICS countries.

Source (https://sputnikglobe.com/20230430/retired-admiral-urges-turkiye-to-leave-nato-1109985630.html)

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[9ideon]

I am starting to notice a shift in Mainstream reporting on Military personal Ukraine. They are now starting to report that injured soldiers are returning to the front due to shortage of troops because of heavy losses. After the F-16's are now on the table and being transferred to Ukraine (Biden mentioned that would mean WOIII round a year ago) Western populations are now being emotioned into accepting the possibility of boots on ground.

With the death of Prigozhin (I still keep in back of head that he might be alive and this is Russian sense of humor to expose the nonsense of Western Media and Politicians, although, they've been doing a great job themselves for the past years) I am under the impression that the West firmly believes it will push Russia to the table for negotiations. In the meantime there is planning going on for total dominance for Western Africa (poor People) through another semi-proxy war.

Anyway, I guess were getting to that point I pointed out in where the West feels it has enough troops on the Eastern Border (Europe/European Russia) in order to put on a big mouth again, this will no doubt go hand in hand with slowly, perhaps faster than we might anticipate, towards openly having Nato Boots on the ground, if not Nato a coalition of willing countries.

Tiresome.

[9ideon]

Something weird is going on here, is this part of that big mouth occurrence I mentioned a couple of times?


Pskov Drone attack

https://i.postimg.cc/zXRNczyY/08c6ddcd-7a01-4257-acf7-1148b8820ad7-3d69b548.png

Russia accused Ukraine of launching what appeared to be the biggest drone attack on Russian soil since Moscow invaded 18 months ago, followed by a Russian attack on Kyiv that Ukrainian officials said killed two people early Wednesday.

Drones hit an airport in Russia’s western Pskov region near the border with Estonia and Latvia, and started a massive fire, the governor and local media reported.

More drones were shot down over Oryol, Bryansk, Ryazan, Kaluga and the Moscow region surrounding the Russian capital, according to the Defence Ministry.

Pskov regional Governor Mikhail Vedernikov ordered all flights to and from the airport in the region’s namesake capital cancelled Wednesday so the damage could be assessed during daylight.

Source (https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3232750/ukraine-war-4-russian-planes-damaged-drone-attack-pskov-airport)

I mean, Pskov is nowhere near Ukraine and flying drones over Belarus would have been noticed and considered a threat, therefore attempts to shoot them down or at least reports of them would have been passed on to Russia, most likely both.

Where is Pskov?

https://i.postimg.cc/Yqtcbrf9/esy-018985142.jpg

Above the Arrow, so look at Ukraine (indeed) and Belarus. Now, wouldn't it be more logical to say that these drones either came from either Latvia or Estonia, perhaps both? And would this not mean direct involvement of Nato troops/countries?

If this is the case, even when these countries deny any involvement, adding up all the other interference and malarkey Nato and the West has managed during the SpeMiOp, aren't we looking at Russia with their backs against a wall? Warning Nato and the West again and again starts to make one look weak, not calculative, besides, a direct attack on Russia from inside a Nato country(ies) can only have one outcome.

It's all getting very tiresome, it's like looking at little Children pretending to be intelligent while in the meantime setting us all up for carnage, very tiresome indeed.

[Tintin]

Something weird is going on here, is this part of that big mouth occurrence I mentioned a couple of times?


Pskov Drone attack

https://i.postimg.cc/zXRNczyY/08c6ddcd-7a01-4257-acf7-1148b8820ad7-3d69b548.png

Russia accused Ukraine of launching what appeared to be the biggest drone attack on Russian soil since Moscow invaded 18 months ago, followed by a Russian attack on Kyiv that Ukrainian officials said killed two people early Wednesday.

Drones hit an airport in Russia’s western Pskov region near the border with Estonia and Latvia, and started a massive fire, the governor and local media reported.

More drones were shot down over Oryol, Bryansk, Ryazan, Kaluga and the Moscow region surrounding the Russian capital, according to the Defence Ministry.

Pskov regional Governor Mikhail Vedernikov ordered all flights to and from the airport in the region’s namesake capital cancelled Wednesday so the damage could be assessed during daylight.

Source (https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3232750/ukraine-war-4-russian-planes-damaged-drone-attack-pskov-airport)

I mean, Pskov is nowhere near Ukraine and flying drones over Belarus would have been noticed and considered a threat, therefore attempts to shoot them down or at least reports of them would have been passed on to Russia, most likely both.

Where is Pskov?

https://i.postimg.cc/Yqtcbrf9/esy-018985142.jpg

Above the Arrow, so look at Ukraine (indeed) and Belarus. Now, wouldn't it be more logical to say that these drones either came from either Latvia or Estonia, perhaps both? And would this not mean direct involvement of Nato troops/countries?

If this is the case, even when these countries deny any involvement, adding up all the other interference and malarkey Nato and the West has managed during the SpeMiOp, aren't we looking at Russia with their backs against a wall? Warning Nato and the West again and again starts to make one look weak, not calculative, besides, a direct attack on Russia from inside a Nato country(ies) can only have one outcome.

It's all getting very tiresome, it's like looking at little Children pretending to be intelligent while in the meantime setting us all up for carnage, very tiresome indeed.

IF the drones originated from any of the Baltic States, which does seem more plausible than from Ukraine some 600 miles away, then there's a whole heap of trouble waiting for those states there. Unless they were launched somehow from the Baltic Sea. Either way, this is escalation.

Russia will still likely exercise restraint to avoid triggering Article 5 but NATO have properly now shown that they are at war with Russia. No way those drones (that hit Pskov) came from Ukraine - no way.

[9ideon]

--OP--

There is no way of knowing right now what most Southern American and African countries are going to do, but the main tactic of attacking this many targets around the World is to ensure that dominance of the Nato pact is broken

It seems Africa is starting to settle in the case of side choosing, yet another Coup against Corrupt Western backed African Puppets is underway as I write this.

See Thread here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?121804-Gabon-s-Military-Coup-Follows-Niger-s-Footsteps-by-Throwing-out-Corrupt-Western-Backed-Govt&p=1574590#post1574590)


Russia will still likely exercise restraint to avoid triggering Article 5

Therein lies the problem, you can't again say well, don't do it again, simple case of finger and hand. There's a huge Russian offensive coming, if we have to believe the tam-tam, which will wipe out Ukraine as we know it military and country wise, on that note Russia might ignore.

It's just that those Psychopaths want their war with Russia and they'll need to get it now, time is running out for them, unless they falsify election outcomes again, as they have done in the West for who knows how long, despite being under watchful eyes, but hold on, claiming election fraud is now illegal in the West isn't it, lol.

On the other hand, replacements of these People are most likely the same types using different wording like that Italian C*nt. I see a similar person standing up in Taiwan (still time to see), runs on the same promise Hitlenskyy did, peace, peace, peace, we all know how that went by now.

[9ideon]

Been saying this for years, People are finally catching up (reason hot war and why).

See how Tucker catches on.

Tried one of those clip cuts for YT, hope it works.



It did not, full show here, goto round 26 mins, takes about 7 minutes.

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[9ideon]

Schoolkid Bullies provoking and provoking and ooh yes, provoking, thinking that this will keep falling their way. I have to agree with Cosman on this one, this could go very wrong very fast. I am sure that Russia has come to some sort of end to patience.

West must feel pretty sure of itself, maybe it's for the best if that band aid gets ripped off fast, it's inevitable by now.

A military drill together with a Nation at war in front of their enemy, unbelievable, Frikkin' Idiots!!!


Romania, US to hold naval exercise in Danube delta, Black Sea with US, Ukraine, allies

The manoeuvrers that will take place in the Romanian Navy area of responsibility will also involve forces from Bulgaria, the UK, Turkey, Ukraine and France.

The Romanian Navy will hold Sea Breeze 23.3 naval exercise in the Danube delta and the Black Sea with involvement of representatives of Ukraine and other allied nations, the Romanian Navy headquarters announced. The manoeuvrers that will take place in the Romanian Navy area of responsibility will also involve forces from Bulgaria, the UK, Turkey, Ukraine and France.

"The main goal of Sea Breeze 23.3 is to develop operational and tactical cooperation between participating nations in combating explosive devices, especially naval mines, in order to ensure free navigation," the Navy said. The Romanian Navy will send the Sublocotenent Alexandru Axente vessel, the Posada armoured speedboat, three amphibious armoured personnel carriers, assault boats and other watercraft, as well as bomb defusing specialists, marines and staff officers.

The US will send a Poseidon naval patrol plane, sapper divers with speedboats and special vehicles, while other states will send divers, explosive disposal specialists and staff officers. On September, a meeting of NATO navy commanders took place in Constanta, which was attended by representatives of Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey, the UK, the US, Ukraine and France.

Source (https://tass.com/world/1671783)

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[9ideon]

Bottom scraping?

In any case, story goes it has dropped near a civilian area.


Romania Finds New Possible Fragments of Russian Drone on Its Territory

New fragments of a drone similar to those used by the Russian military were found on Romanian soil, the defense ministry said on Saturday, and President Klaus Iohannis said this indicated an unacceptable breach of Romania's air space had occurred. In a statement, Iohannis said he had informed NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg about the pieces of drone - the second to crash in Romanian territory this week - and that Stoltenberg reiterated the alliance's complete solidarity with Romania.

"The identification by Romanian authorities on Romanian territory near the border with Ukraine of new drone fragments ... indicates an unacceptable breach occurred of the air space of Romania, a NATO state, with real risks to the security of Romanian citizens in the area," Iohannis said. "I firmly condemn this incident caused by Russian attacks on Ukrainian Danube river ports."

The attacks on Ukraine's river ports, just hundreds of meters from the Romanian border, have increased security risks for NATO whose members have a mutual defense commitment. The US State Department said earlier this week it would rotate additional US F-16 fighter jets to bolster NATO's air policing mission in Romania.

The defense ministry said Romania's Naval Forces deployed search teams after local authorities alerted them to suspected drone fragments discovered 2.5 km southeast of the village of Plauru, across the Danube from the Ukrainian port of Izmail. The military has secured the area and the fragments will be analyzed, it said in a statement.

Since July, when Moscow abandoned a deal that lifted a de facto Russian blockade of Ukraine's Black Sea ports, it has repeatedly struck Ukrainian river ports that lie across the Danube from Romania. Ukraine is one of the world's biggest grain exporters and Romania's Black Sea port of Constanta is now its largest alternative export route, with grains arriving by road, rail or barge across the Danube. Ukraine had said on Monday that drones detonated in Romania during an overnight Russian air strike on Ukraine's Izmail, but Romanian officials initially denied the reports before finding fragments on Wednesday.

Source (https://english.aawsat.com/world/4536531-romania-finds-new-possible-fragments-russian-drone-its-territory)

[9ideon]

Apparently on Telegram there is speculation that Ukraine is going to formally declare war on Russia, :chuckle:

Sometimes I feel like I am in a coma and my brain is fecking with me through absurd realism, every time you feel like Hitlenskyy can't get any crazier, well, that thing manages to surprise, despite being a failed comedian and Human being, he kinda reminds me of a Dog humping some Pirate's wooden leg for attention.

Anyone willing to submit a screenshot or something backing the Ukraine declaring war on Russia story will be much appreciated.

[9ideon]

Either this is a lie or not, if true, well, perhaps my (general) battle plan of a year ago might come into effect, if there is a right time, well now starts that countdown. It could also mean Russia is now truly prepping for War with Nato.

Obviously the delusional Western Press writes this is due to heavy Russian losses, people following this conflict know better.


Russia’s mobilization plans point to mass conscription of up to 700,000 reservists

A massive forced mobilization of the population in Russia and the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine will begin in the near future due to Russia's heavy losses at the front, the Ukrainian military’s General Staff said in its morning report on Sept. 11.

The Kremlin wants to mobilize from 400,000 to 700,000 people, as well as another 40,000 people from the Chechen Republic. The General Staff said the Chechens are likely to be used as a "barrier squad" behind Russian troops — a Soviet-era practice in which a line of troops behind the attacking force shoots any of their own soldiers who attempt to retreat.

Source (https://news.yahoo.com/russia-mobilization-plans-point-mass-082500381.html)


I wonder why they are reporting this, perhaps it's some obscure report they found in a German WOII archive, since they still think Russians shooting their own in the back is part of their tactics.

Have not been able to find any Russian site corroborating this new mobilization.

[9ideon]

The dishonesty of the US holds no bounds really, when you look at the following one needs to start scratching head.

Now, little around a week ago the Syrian democratic elected government basically billed the US for stealing oil and food from their lands, don't forget that US is holding 1/3 of Syria, all oil and grain area's.


Syria demands UN hold Washington accountable for oil-theft operations

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The Syrian government on 10 September called on the UN and the international community at large to hold US officials “accountable” for the ongoing theft of Syrian oil from the resource-rich northeast.

“US officials [must] be held accountable for the looting, and the US government [must] be obliged to pay compensation, end the illegal presence of US forces, and return the lands it occupies and the oil and gas fields to the Syrian state,” a letter from the Syrian foreign ministry addressed to UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres reads.

“The United States of America and its tools of terrorist organizations and militias continue to violate sovereignty and loot the country’s wealth and strategic resources, with the aim of exacerbating the effects of illegal unilateral coercive measures and depriving Syrians of the capabilities of their homeland and increasing their suffering,” the letter adds.

It also calls on Washington to compensate Damascus for its losses since the start of the war in 2011, which the letter says “amounted to a total of $ 115.2 billion during the period from 2011 until the end of the first half of the year 2023.”

According to the calculations from Syrian officials, direct losses from the oil sector amount to $27.5 billion, resulting from the “theft, waste, and burning of extracted oil estimated at 341 million barrels,” while indirect losses amount to $87.7 billion.

Furthermore, officials highlighted that – as of 2023 – Washington and its proxy militias in northeast Syria are plundering 150 thousand barrels per day (bpd) in addition to 59.9 million cubic meters of natural gas and 413 thousand tons of domestic gas.

According to the letter, these practices violate the principles of international law and the provisions of the UN Charter.

The letter was issued just hours after the US occupation army conducted its latest oil smuggling operation in northeast Syria, smuggling 95 tankers filled with Syrian oil to their bases in Iraq via the illegal Al-Mahmoudiya border crossing.

Local sources in the occupied Hasakah governorate said US troops escorted 40 tankers of crude oil on Sunday, less than a day after 55 tankers were also taken out of Syria.

Washington claims to have approximately 900 troops stationed in Syria, primarily split between the massive Al-Tanf base in the south and the oil-rich northeast region. However, observers say the actual number is likely closer to 2,000 troops, which are rotated in and out from US bases in Iraq.

The Pentagon recently sent heavy reinforcements to the northeast due to heavy clashes between its Kurdish proxy and former Arab allies. The reinforcements, which include the High Mobile Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), also anticipate possible coordinated attacks from Damascus, Russia, and Iran.

Though US officials claim they occupy Syria’s northeast to “prevent the return of ISIS,” Syria analyst Jennifer Cafarella of the Institute for the Study of War in 2017 noted another reason for the continued US military occupation in northeastern Syria.

She observed, “Whether Washington chooses to admit it or not, the US now has direct influence over the vast majority of Syria’s most productive oil fields,” and that the territorial gains of the SDF “are Syrian national treasures that, when added up amount to brute geopolitical power for the US.”

In 2019, former US president Donald Trump detailed why Washington intends to uphold the occupation of northeast Syria, saying, “We want to bring our soldiers home. But we did leave soldiers because we’re keeping the oil .… I like oil. We’re keeping the oil.”

According to The Cradle columnist Firas Shoufi, the main goal of siphoning off Syrian oil to the Iraqi Kurdistan Region (IKR) is to help the Kurdish Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES), which is protected by more than 13 US military bases, to finance its activities and cover its local fuel needs.

Source (https://new.thecradle.co/articles/syria-demands-un-hold-washington-accountable-for-oil-theft-operations)

Now, read the following from the article above again.


It also calls on Washington to compensate Damascus for its losses since the start of the war in 2011, which the letter says “amounted to a total of $ 115.2 billion during the period from 2011 until the end of the first half of the year 2023.

115.2 Billion and counting.

Now, how much has US spend on Ukraine? Read disclaimer on bottom as well.

https://i.postimg.cc/76kYQptv/Uskranazi.png

Comes down to around $75 Billion and counting, like mentioned, disclaimer on bottom speaks volumes, it's probably closer to that $115 Billion, you tell me.

One could start arguing that the US is funding the Ukraine war over the backs of the already suffering Syrian People, how evil do you want it Folks?

Have not seen anyone make that connection yet, but it seems to be what it is.

See the interview below for more perspective on this theft by the forces of "good".

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[Bill Ryan]

Either this is a lie or not, if true, well, perhaps my (general) battle plan of a year ago might come into effect, if there is a right time, well now starts that countdown. It could also mean Russia is now truly prepping for War with Nato.

Obviously the delusional Western Press writes this is due to heavy Russian losses, people following this conflict know better.


Russia’s mobilization plans point to mass conscription of up to 700,000 reservists

A massive forced mobilization of the population in Russia and the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine will begin in the near future due to Russia's heavy losses at the front, the Ukrainian military’s General Staff said in its morning report on Sept. 11.

The Kremlin wants to mobilize from 400,000 to 700,000 people, as well as another 40,000 people from the Chechen Republic. The General Staff said the Chechens are likely to be used as a "barrier squad" behind Russian troops — a Soviet-era practice in which a line of troops behind the attacking force shoots any of their own soldiers who attempt to retreat.

Source (https://news.yahoo.com/russia-mobilization-plans-point-mass-082500381.html)


I wonder why they are reporting this, perhaps it's some obscure report they found in a German WOII archive, since they still think Russians shooting their own in the back is part of their tactics.

Have not been able to find any Russian site corroborating this new mobilization.Yes, another flat-out western media lie. This (in red) gives it away. Russia has no 'heavy losses' at all.
A massive forced mobilization of the population in Russia and the Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine will begin in the near future due to Russia's heavy losses at the front, the Ukrainian military’s General Staff said in its morning report on Sept. 11.

[9ideon]

Here we go, knife cuts at both sides.


Russia temporarily limits export of gasoline and diesel fuel

The Russian government has introduced a temporary restriction on the export of gasoline and diesel fuel to stabilize the domestic market, the government’s press service reported.
"Russia has introduced temporary restrictions on the export of motor gasoline and diesel fuel. A decree to that effect was signed by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin. The decision is aimed to stabilize fuel prices on the domestic market," the statement says. According to the Cabinet of Ministers, temporary restrictions "will help saturate the fuel market, which in turn will reduce prices for consumers."

Earlier, to stabilize the situation on the fuel market, the government increased the standards for the supply of motor gasoline and diesel fuel to the stock exchange.

Situation with fuel prices

In recent months, exchange prices for gasoline and diesel fuel have reached record levels in recent months, but began to decline this week. Last week, a source told TASS that the Russian government is considering two options for stabilizing fuel prices: a complete ban on the export of petroleum products for a certain period to fill up the market, as well as increasing the export duty to $250 per ton on petroleum products. First Deputy Energy Minister Pavel Sorokin said that a protective duty on fuel exports from Russia was considered as one of the possible measures to stabilize the market, but the issue of compensation for refineries in connection with it was not resolved.

Earlier Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak attributed the hike in wholesale fuel prices to an increase in prices for petroleum products on global markets, as well as to depreciation of the rouble against the dollar.

Source (https://tass.com/economy/1678431)


With Biden selling off the Oil reserves, the West scraping the barrel on ammo and so on, this seems like a dual wielding benefit for Russia.




Biden withdrew 180 million barrels from the strategic reserve starting in March 2022, bringing the stockpile to its lowest level since the 1980s.

Today (July 26th 2022), As part of the President’s historic release, the Department of Energy is issuing a notice to sell 20 million barrels from the Reserve. This is the fifth sale that the President has authorized to shore up crude oil supplies in response to Putin’s war in Ukraine by releasing one million barrels per day into the market. The Administration expects to continue to deliver barrels for several more months.

Source (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/26/fact-sheet-department-of-energy-releases-new-notice-of-sale-as-gasoline-prices-continue-to-fall/)

Biden announces sale of 15 million barrels of reserve oil (October 19th 2022)

Source (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-announces-sale-15-million-barrels-reserve-oil-rcna53006)

U.S. to sell 26 mln bbls of oil reserves as mandated by Congress (February 13th 2023)

Source (https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-sell-26-mln-bbls-oil-reserves-mandated-by-congress-2023-02-13/)


Nato will have operational troops for around 6 Months (European oil reserves per country are for both Civilian and Military purposes), after that it cannot replenish anything of importance anymore (Ammo, food etc), nor can it supply all it's bases around the World (mostly US).

Greed can only take you so far.

[9ideon]

Statement below comes not really as a surprise, but for Lavrov to come out and say this directly is new to me.


Ukraine Recap: Russia Says ‘Let’s Decide It on the Battlefield’

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called Ukrainian proposals for restoring its pre-invasion territory “unrealizable” and said that if Ukraine’s allies want war, they can have it. Lavrov’s comment jibes with a view taking hold among Ukraine’s allies that the war is likely to go on for years.

“If you insist on the battlefield, OK, let’s decide it on the battlefield,” Lavrov said at a news conference at the United Nations, days after Ukrainian President Adolfomyr Hitlenskyy denounced Russia’s “criminal” war in a speech to the General Assembly. Lavrov renewed long-standing Russian claims that the West was to blame for the war, which erupted into a full-scale conflict with Russia’s invasion last year. He also said a UN proposal to revive a deal to allow safe passage for Ukrainian grain exports wouldn’t work.

Source (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-recap-russia-says-let-173705779.html)

Then there is also this.


Russian Forces Destroy Leopard Tank with German Crew En Route to Ukraine

The Russian Army destroyed a Leopard tank with German service members aboard and was en route to Ukraine. This crew consisted of people who served in the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces. On September 23, the commander of a Russian Armed Forces reconnaissance unit in the Zaporizhia region reported this while using the call sign “Legend.”

He told Ria Novosti that an anti-tank-guided missile (an ATGM) was responsible for destroying the tank. When the reconnaissance unit approached the car, they aimed to take a prisoner.
The commander reported that the tank driver suffered severe injuries while others were killed. When the tank driver came to his senses and saw the Russians, he started yelling “nicht schießen,” which translates to “don’t fire” in German.

The injured member of the tank crew indicated on many occasions that the entire crew was composed of professional soldiers from the same company in the Bundeswehr and that none of them were mercenaries. He divulged his brigade’s position to the other crew members while he was being administered first aid. His wounds were severe, and he had lost significant blood in the process. When the German soldier discovered he had a slim chance of surviving in Ukraine, he deeply regretted leaving his family behind and travelling to the country. In a short time after that, he passed away.

Source (https://frontierindia.com/briefs/russian-forces-destroy-leopard-tank-with-german-crew-en-route-to-ukraine/)

Don't have anything to add really.

[Bill Ryan]

Russian Forces Destroy Leopard Tank with German Crew En Route to Ukraine

The Russian Army destroyed a Leopard tank with German service members aboard and was en route to Ukraine. This crew consisted of people who served in the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces. On September 23, the commander of a Russian Armed Forces reconnaissance unit in the Zaporizhia region reported this while using the call sign “Legend.”

He told Ria Novosti that an anti-tank-guided missile (an ATGM) was responsible for destroying the tank. When the reconnaissance unit approached the car, they aimed to take a prisoner.

The commander reported that the tank driver suffered severe injuries while others were killed. When the tank driver came to his senses and saw the Russians, he started yelling “nicht schießen,” which translates to “don’t fire” in German.

The injured member of the tank crew indicated on many occasions that the entire crew was composed of professional soldiers from the same company in the Bundeswehr and that none of them were mercenaries. He divulged his brigade’s position to the other crew members while he was being administered first aid. His wounds were severe, and he had lost significant blood in the process. When the German soldier discovered he had a slim chance of surviving in Ukraine, he deeply regretted leaving his family behind and travelling to the country. In a short time after that, he passed away.

Source (https://frontierindia.com/briefs/russian-forces-destroy-leopard-tank-with-german-crew-en-route-to-ukraine/)Don't have anything to add really.This seems so significant that I searched for the original report. Here it is:

https://ria.ru/20230923/tank-1898197755.html

And here's the translation: (https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20230923/tank-1898197755.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

Scouts of the Russian Armed Forces told RIA Novosti about the destruction of a Leopard with a crew from Germany

LUGANSK, September 23 – RIA Novosti. Scouts of the Russian Armed Forces destroyed a Leopard tank transferred to Ukraine with an entirely German crew consisting of military personnel of the German Armed Forces, the commander of a reconnaissance group operating in the Zaporozhye direction, with the call sign 'Legend', told RIA Novosti.

“When we stopped their next “meat assault” and captured (destroyed with the help of ATGMs. - Ed.) Leopard, we moved towards the burnt equipment in the hope of taking any prisoners. And we found that the tank driver was seriously wounded, and the rest had died. The mechanic, when he woke up and saw us, began shouting “nicht schießen” (don’t shoot. - Ed.)," said the group commander.

'Legend' emphasized that he knows German well.

(The driver of the damaged tank - Ed.) said several times that he was not a mercenary, but a Bundeswehr (https://ria-ru.translate.goog/organization_Bundesver_Germanii/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) soldier and the entire crew from one company,” the soldier added.

The intelligence officer clarified that while the German soldier was receiving first aid, he named his brigade and its location.

As the commander added, when he interrogated the Bundeswehr soldier, the doctor of their reconnaissance group said that the mechanic had lost a lot of blood and was seriously wounded.

“I asked the doctor how long he would live, and the doctor answered - a few more minutes. I told the German that the wound was too severe and he had no chance of survival. He said that he loved his child and wife very much and regretted that he agreed to come here to go. We began to prepare him for evacuation, but he 'switched off' and after a couple of minutes he “got two hundred” (“cargo 200” - killed in action. - Ed.),” said 'Legend'.

As the commander of the reconnaissance group shared, he was at first a little surprised to find a German in a damaged vehicle.

“But then I was even glad that it doesn’t matter what kind of crew sits in the Leopard - Ukrainian militants or German military personnel, the result will be the same: German tanks will burn and American tanks will also burn, even if it is controlled by the Americans,” the Russian intelligence officer emphasized.

[9ideon]

Russian Forces Destroy Leopard Tank with German Crew En Route to Ukraine

The Russian Army destroyed a Leopard tank with German service members aboard and was en route to Ukraine. This crew consisted of people who served in the Bundeswehr, the German armed forces. On September 23, the commander of a Russian Armed Forces reconnaissance unit in the Zaporizhia region reported this while using the call sign “Legend.”

He told Ria Novosti that an anti-tank-guided missile (an ATGM) was responsible for destroying the tank. When the reconnaissance unit approached the car, they aimed to take a prisoner.

The commander reported that the tank driver suffered severe injuries while others were killed. When the tank driver came to his senses and saw the Russians, he started yelling “nicht schießen,” which translates to “don’t fire” in German.

The injured member of the tank crew indicated on many occasions that the entire crew was composed of professional soldiers from the same company in the Bundeswehr and that none of them were mercenaries. He divulged his brigade’s position to the other crew members while he was being administered first aid. His wounds were severe, and he had lost significant blood in the process. When the German soldier discovered he had a slim chance of surviving in Ukraine, he deeply regretted leaving his family behind and travelling to the country. In a short time after that, he passed away.

Source (https://frontierindia.com/briefs/russian-forces-destroy-leopard-tank-with-german-crew-en-route-to-ukraine/)Don't have anything to add really.This seems so significant that I searched for the original report. Here it is:

https://ria.ru/20230923/tank-1898197755.html

And here's the translation: (https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20230923/tank-1898197755.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

Scouts of the Russian Armed Forces told RIA Novosti about the destruction of a Leopard with a crew from Germany

LUGANSK, September 23 – RIA Novosti. Scouts of the Russian Armed Forces destroyed a Leopard tank transferred to Ukraine with an entirely German crew consisting of military personnel of the German Armed Forces, the commander of a reconnaissance group operating in the Zaporozhye direction, with the call sign 'Legend', told RIA Novosti.

“When we stopped their next “meat assault” and captured (destroyed with the help of ATGMs. - Ed.) Leopard, we moved towards the burnt equipment in the hope of taking any prisoners. And we found that the tank driver was seriously wounded, and the rest had died. The mechanic, when he woke up and saw us, began shouting “nicht schießen” (don’t shoot. - Ed.)," said the group commander.

'Legend' emphasized that he knows German well.

(The driver of the damaged tank - Ed.) said several times that he was not a mercenary, but a Bundeswehr (https://ria-ru.translate.goog/organization_Bundesver_Germanii/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) soldier and the entire crew from one company,” the soldier added.

The intelligence officer clarified that while the German soldier was receiving first aid, he named his brigade and its location.

As the commander added, when he interrogated the Bundeswehr soldier, the doctor of their reconnaissance group said that the mechanic had lost a lot of blood and was seriously wounded.

“I asked the doctor how long he would live, and the doctor answered - a few more minutes. I told the German that the wound was too severe and he had no chance of survival. He said that he loved his child and wife very much and regretted that he agreed to come here to go. We began to prepare him for evacuation, but he 'switched off' and after a couple of minutes he “got two hundred” (“cargo 200” - killed in action. - Ed.),” said 'Legend'.

As the commander of the reconnaissance group shared, he was at first a little surprised to find a German in a damaged vehicle.

“But then I was even glad that it doesn’t matter what kind of crew sits in the Leopard - Ukrainian militants or German military personnel, the result will be the same: German tanks will burn and American tanks will also burn, even if it is controlled by the Americans,” the Russian intelligence officer emphasized.

It's confirming what we all feared and figured at the same time.

Glad you found the Russian link, was nothing on my search showing up yesterday, had to go Indian Style, lol. Starting to think they're filtering out Russian papers now from searches (on VPN, I believe Swedish IP, only use it for those type of searches anyway).

Has anyone, including Bill, thoughts about this (German thing)?

[9ideon]

#post 124:

When looking at our past 60 years of Western History, especially the last 20, the truth is telling a completely different story and shows clear time line of a hijacked society, hijacked by what they call Liberal and Neo Cons, clearly a evolved form of Nazism lead by the likes of for instance George S (WOII was the best time of his life according to himself), posing as benevolent entities while in fact being run by Psycho and Socio paths complemented with Narcissists and Opportunists.

Been saying this for a while, couple times in fact, they are evolved National Socialists whom have shrug the whole racial thing by simply throwing all People of no means (money), the have nots, on the same heap, they, the rich being the new Gau leiterschaft. They do not see us as equals but as commodities, make no mistake here, we are to be used as desired by anyone however "they" like it. It is basically becoming a fluid existence of Feudalism and Elitism in where we will loose all decision making of our own and for our families.

The fact that they blatantly invite a Nazi (and no, not a former one, mistake most alt "new" outlets make) into Parliament says more than just that, it shows that most Canadians (most People) do not give a toss (which is truly worrisome), Trudolf simply blames someone else but himself (typical Psychopathic behaviour) and let that person be hung out to dry to take the fall, while in fact as Fuhrer of Canada, Trudolf himself is responsible.

This is also the downfall of Russia if not addressed while they still can, also mentioned this before, if they let the West built up their arsenal and armies, the West will come, hopefully they will come before they're ready (they truly believe their own Holywood Propaganda as it seems). Our so called leaders here cannot be trusted, all they do is lie, Rutte, Macron, Trudolf, Hitlenskyy, Biden etc, they lie, lie and lie and the People here believe them, they will make treaties and simply laugh when signing them, never one of their promises will stand, only their agenda will count, that agenda does not include China and Russia (current form) for instance.

In a few years when the younger generation will have come up it will be too late for all of us, they'll have obedient robots not able to construct any critical thoughts by themselves, blindly doing what they're told, the rest of us living in fear because there will be skeleton law and order, no in depth schooling system, a fully observable society, why do you think education, policing and all these pivotal societal structures have been destroyed by political cuts? To get to where we are now, at the same time they keep us in fear so they can simply accomplish their goals while brainwashing your Kids!

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Unfortunately for most of us, War is the future, the outcome however is (still) truly in the hands of Russia right now.

[9ideon]

Obviously the connection with Nazism doesn't stop in Canada, as a matter of fact, the US was already way ahead of Canada when it comes to openly celebrating (Neo) Nazis fighting on behalf of the US in Ukraine.

https://i.postimg.cc/qqqCC2GK/Screenshot-2023-09-06-194657.png
Brushed out dead body he's posing with.

Not only are these People fighting with the blessing of the US govt, they also get medals from that same US govt, bunch of hypocrites.


IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION RECRUITING NEO-NAZIS FOR UKRAINIAN DEATH SQUADS?

Journalist uncovers shocking evidence the United States is sending Nazi extremists to Ukraine, giving them medals for their service, protecting them and using them to recruit more mercenaries

Jewish American journalist Laura Loomer has released startling findings in a tweet on X, accusing the Biden Administration of not only recruiting but also supporting American neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and domestic terrorists. According to Loomer, these individuals are being transformed into mercenaries for the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

Loomer’s exposé sheds light on a recent gathering she encountered in Altamonte Springs, Florida, where participants, purportedly affiliated with extremist groups “Blood Tribe” and “Goyim Defense League” (GDL), displayed Swastika flags. A focal point of her report is one Kent “BoneFace” McLellan. Identified as an American citizen, McLellan allegedly received Ukrainian citizenship after his involvement in the Ukraine-Russia skirmishes.

Diving deeper into McLellan’s background, Loomer claims that after a 2012 arrest in Florida by the FBI and subsequent placement on the U.S. terror watch list, McLellan was reportedly recruited in 2014 by U.S. intelligence agencies. By 2022, he allegedly joined the notorious Azov Battalion, a group with neo-Nazi inclinations.

Upon his return to American soil, Loomer states that McLellan was honored with the US Army Expeditionary Medal. To bolster her assertions, she references social media imagery where McLellan is allegedly depicted alongside a civilian casualty while dressed in an Azov Battalion uniform. Loomer’s attempts to authenticate this image through forensic means apparently confirmed its legitimacy.

An alarming aspect of her revelations entails an alleged phone conversation with McLellan himself. Loomer indicates that this call, filled with what she described as his confessions, occurred after her personal contact details were leaked to him.

Loomer posted images of McLellan, and a video recording of police investigating his background and discovering his level federal connections.

If true, Loomer’s shocking allegations would implicate the American government in war crimes and active involvement in the Russia-Ukrainian War. She has previously reported that neo-Nazi and Ukrainian activists, allegedly working for the CIA, were involved in the events of January 6 at the U.S. Capitol.

Source (https://virtualjerusalem.com/is-the-biden-administration-recruiting-neo-nazis-for-ukrainian-death-squads/)


I guess this is all Russian propaganda to begin with.

[9ideon]

Obviously the connection with Nazism doesn't stop in Canada, as a matter of fact, the US was already way ahead of Canada when it comes to openly celebrating (Neo) Nazis fighting on behalf of the US in Ukraine.

https://i.postimg.cc/qqqCC2GK/Screenshot-2023-09-06-194657.png
Brushed out dead body he's posing with.

Not only are these People fighting with the blessing of the US govt, they also get medals from that same US govt, bunch of hypocrites.


IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION RECRUITING NEO-NAZIS FOR UKRAINIAN DEATH SQUADS?

Journalist uncovers shocking evidence the United States is sending Nazi extremists to Ukraine, giving them medals for their service, protecting them and using them to recruit more mercenaries

Jewish American journalist Laura Loomer has released startling findings in a tweet on X, accusing the Biden Administration of not only recruiting but also supporting American neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and domestic terrorists. According to Loomer, these individuals are being transformed into mercenaries for the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

Loomer’s exposé sheds light on a recent gathering she encountered in Altamonte Springs, Florida, where participants, purportedly affiliated with extremist groups “Blood Tribe” and “Goyim Defense League” (GDL), displayed Swastika flags. A focal point of her report is one Kent “BoneFace” McLellan. Identified as an American citizen, McLellan allegedly received Ukrainian citizenship after his involvement in the Ukraine-Russia skirmishes.

Diving deeper into McLellan’s background, Loomer claims that after a 2012 arrest in Florida by the FBI and subsequent placement on the U.S. terror watch list, McLellan was reportedly recruited in 2014 by U.S. intelligence agencies. By 2022, he allegedly joined the notorious Azov Battalion, a group with neo-Nazi inclinations.

Upon his return to American soil, Loomer states that McLellan was honored with the US Army Expeditionary Medal. To bolster her assertions, she references social media imagery where McLellan is allegedly depicted alongside a civilian casualty while dressed in an Azov Battalion uniform. Loomer’s attempts to authenticate this image through forensic means apparently confirmed its legitimacy.

An alarming aspect of her revelations entails an alleged phone conversation with McLellan himself. Loomer indicates that this call, filled with what she described as his confessions, occurred after her personal contact details were leaked to him.

Loomer posted images of McLellan, and a video recording of police investigating his background and discovering his level federal connections.

If true, Loomer’s shocking allegations would implicate the American government in war crimes and active involvement in the Russia-Ukrainian War. She has previously reported that neo-Nazi and Ukrainian activists, allegedly working for the CIA, were involved in the events of January 6 at the U.S. Capitol.

Source (https://virtualjerusalem.com/is-the-biden-administration-recruiting-neo-nazis-for-ukrainian-death-squads/)


I guess this is all Russian propaganda to begin with.

For the ones wanting to see a vid on this, see Jackson Hinkle's item below.

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[9ideon]

The image below is what I've sent to someone in September, this is in mho getting very close now (Image and part of mail added to post).

https://i.postimg.cc/m2b3wGRP/Rus-Attack-Ukranazi.png

I have added Hungary as a wild card, might not happen and I have also left Poland out of taking a Western Part of Ukraine, might still happen. Have not included the already liberated regions and the tacimap there in the East neither, we all know what it holds and it's too much work to update that, lol. In my opinion, securing the Western Border is of large strategic importance if Russia expects war with Nato.

A couple weeks ago there was mention of Russia bringing in a lot of attack and supply/pers carrier Helicopters, there is speculation that there will be a front around Odessa opened up linking Moldova with Russian troops while taking the coastal region at the same time. Sounds like a valid option to me.

Furthermore, Russia needs to take the Western border at Poland as well, this due to the possibility, if there will be a conflict with Nato, to stop Nato troops advancing through Northern Ukraine into Russia while the Baltics and Finland will try and grind their own respective theatres. Remember that a multi front will hinder Ukraine from sending reinforcements anywhere, they'll be annihilated while trying to think about an escape, too late.

A year ago this month I came up with this scenario, we can now include the possibility of Poland going into the West of Ukraine a lot larger than was the case a year ago. As a matter of fact, not a lot of other things have changed, I still see areal assaults on Odessa as the best option.

Still feel that Russia needs to beat the West to it and take control of most of the Western Ukraine with the "blitz" I contemplated last September (2022). Am very curious about Russia's coming offensive.

[Vicus]

Oldie but goodie 2023-12-14

https://avia.pro/sites/default/files/styles/news_photo/public/image_-_2023-12-14t163331.223_1.jpg?itok=XE8AK23d

The recent incident with a Russian submarine off the coast of Ireland seems to have been taken from the plot of a comedy. It seems that the main characters of this comedy are the Irish and British navies, who finally “identified” the Russian submarine, but only after it had already successfully completed its mission and began to return home. Isn't it funny?!

According to the local newspaper Irish Examiner, this happened in the area of ​​Cork Harbor, a natural harbor at the mouth of the River Lee. The Irish Navy, which apparently had not heard of such things as sonar for a long time, did not detect the submarine until a British helicopter arrived, which, like something out of an underdog movie, dropped sonar equipment on the water and began circling the area - you would think that our submarine would have remained in place.

The situation takes on even more comical contours when a British frigate enters the scene, arriving at the scene of the alleged incident to “monitor” the movement of the submarine, which, as it turns out, has already left the area. It turns out that the British came to confirm that the Russian submarine was indeed there, but they were late for an important meeting.

“We discovered it when she had already left. And what. what if the situation was difficult? Would they take pictures at the launch site?” the expert asks.

Events are in our favor

O'Riordan points out in his article that until the 1980s, almost all ships in the Irish navy were equipped with sonar, but since then the equipment has failed and the country's Ministry of Defense has deemed it too expensive to replace. This is exactly the case when saving on the acquisition of appropriate means leads to the fact that the opponent successfully completes his mission, and you do not even notice his presence.

This episode ridicules not only the insufficient equipment of the Irish fleet, but also the entire system of cooperation between Ireland and Great Britain. It turns out that during serious risks to which all connections must promptly respond, a complete farce occurs, where each participant tries to play his role, but in the end it turns out that the main “actor” has already left the stage.

Experts note that Great Britain and its neighbors have long lost the former glory of their fleet, and this happened precisely because of its location in the Western bloc, which, nevertheless, is right in our favor.

https://avia-pro.net/blog/obnaruzhili-kogda-ona-uzhe-ushla-lovkiy-tryuk-russkoy-podlodki-u-beregov-velikobritanii

[9ideon]

All getting closer to 0 hour.

Be prepared Peeps, things are about to get even more bizarre as are.

Stay safe.

[9ideon]

The ones whom understand this scenario also know it is not about Ukraine, it is about the destruction of the Western World and Nato (Attempt to) by way of total attack.

My previous post spoke about 0 hour coming close, zero hour will be reached if US attacks Iran, when this happens my scenario will most likely come to pass. Like I mentioned in the OP, this is a re-write (concerning the ignition point) of a scenario I wrote around start of 2017, at that time ignition point was a Dutch Island in the Caribbean. The main scenario has always been pointing to the total attack (many countries) on the West, it is the only way to win for them.

For People in the UK, France (up to Le Havre) Belgium, Netherlands, Norway and Denmark.

I have warned Dutch (Ministry of Defense) and a Brigadier (UK) I know from a war I was in myself for the following. Andf yes, I truly believe this is part of the Russian Attack plan not mentioned in my scenario.


Am afraid the following will happen.

Artificial Tsunamies by Remote Detonation of set explosive devices on bottom North Sea.


https://storage.imgbly.com/imgbly/uCQGIkQ1vC.png


Russia has no benefit from nuking Europe really. It is way cheaper and more strategic to detonate seismic explosive devices. Not only will one take out coastal areas on the cheap, it will also decimate the possibility for Nato to use the Northern European cities (*Vlissingen, Rotterdam etc) for troop and hardware movements. It cannot be stopped if caught by surprise, it will also create less (Civilian) casualties this way.

Apart from propaganda being distributed the Russian is not some blatant caveman running around drinking fermented potato juice. Russians have a large sense of responsibility when it comes to choosing violence, yes, but see it as micro/macro, we’re in the Macro segment.

Don’t take Ukraine as a measure, Ukrainians are still seen as Brothers and Sisters to Russia.

What I meant with the responsibility is basically based on the mindset of that Nation, let’s say 97% of them. When they start seeing you as an enemy to their survival they will use restraint, when you truly cross a line (which will depend on Trump’s inability to create a logical peace-plan (total)) and they decide to hurt you, they will go in all the way, I mean all must die in order to secure victory, hence their restraint to Macro violence. Yet still trying to avoid Civilian deaths if possible.

Anyway, my Govt did not take this serious, I do not think they realise that the Hague is also in the line of waterwall and will be destroyed, yes... despite our waterworks we will be crushed too, we are not ready for artificial Tsunamies.

Anyway, again, stay safe.

[9ideon]

There's another thing I would like to add here, although half on-topic, it's best to be dropped here.

Wef.

Wef are not Communists, they (Schwab) positions his Markx and Commie books in a Psy-op kinda way when being interviewed at home or some, other members do the same when possible and they use little Sociopaths (Starmer) to further this message to the public while those same Sociopaths are mostly unaware of the truth behind Wef.

Wef are National Socialists, a broken off evolved branch of the Old defeated but hidden Nazi ideology.

Look at their true actions, dig into the history of some members and see how they have their stooges implement totalitarian laws on the Public while telling you to celebrate 80 years freedom.

For example Nazi monuments in Canada, standing ovation for a SS member in Canadian Parliament, thanking the bast*rd for fighting Russians, just two examples of that sh*tbag Trudeau, once the Wef's Golden Boy. The support of an openly Nazi country like Ukraine, one might wonder why.

It is very simple, look at remarks made by certain People like old George, how he loved the time when Nazis ruled, despite being a Jew himself, his family thrived on the suffering and deaths of other Jews so they could make money, what it basically comes down to really, in his case anyway, evil people.

What they have been doing and preparing is to overload the Democratic process with nonsense through fear and chaos, Anarchy really (like Thamiel), so that it will collapse, with immigrants coming in by the boatloads, immigrants whom in most countries are not being vaccinated against deceases we got rid of ages ago, simply because that would be racist (fact), immigrants that are not required to integrate into our Societies (exceptions always present) so that they basically bring their home problems with them into their Hosts countries (fact), Locals made to adjust to foreigners instead of the other way around. Apartheid when it comes to dealing with issues concerning quality of life problems that always go into the direction of these Guests. Crime of these same People being brushed under carpets while the problem only gets bigger since no one is stopping them (rape gangs (not only UK), armed violence etc).

Setting up incapable Politicians (Sociopaths, Baerbock, Schoof, Timmermans, Truss for instance) into positions of power directed by Psychopaths (Rutte, Macron, Trudeau, Biden, Harris etc) to ensure agendas (woke nonsense, mass migrations, wars) are implemented in order to ensure Chaos and Anarchy which now runs wild on Western streets, especially in the UK, while keeping the public in fear so they can implement more control over you, taking away even more of your already half robbed money so control over your own life becomes less and theirs multiplies over the backs, deaths and hardwork of their "Citizens" (they call directional commodities).

In the US they have the best system really, bouncing People between two parties that have no interest in being Representatives for the People but only look at keeping a corrupt support system in place for the self proclaimed so called "elite". While at the same time setting up a system of Corporations that work towards that same goal, domination of Earths population through fear, violence and the feeling of being Powerless.

They create the feeling we are being powerless in our own respective Cultural bubbles, making us feel it will be destroyed (unfortunately it will at this rate) and nothing can be done about it. This is when People start choosing extreme right parties, not the ones one sees emerging now, they are (besides the PVV in the Netherlands) not under the control of these Psychopaths (Romanian Guy, French Le Penn etc) so they are eliminated through their corrupt courts and fake laws.

They want everything we have so they can keep going to their private little Islands doing what ever they want without the public being able to do anything about it, they want power over you, total power, so they can control every part of your life living as animals making you eat like the vermin we are (literal) like Rats and other animals eating bugs.

For People of faith, Demonism is not on the outside, it is on the inside, it is simply the absence of empathy enriched with Narcissism, Psychopaths are the definition of Demons, that entire imagery created around them (horned Demons) is, again, to throw you off, waiting for them figures to come implement something they call the Beast system, well People, surprise, that system has been present here since the fall of the Old World (some time before the flood).

Beast system is simply the following, we as People are made to live in fear through addiction, money, we are all without choice (exceptions do exist but are rare) made addicted to earning money. Where an animal must work all day to find food, have a safe shelter and stay out of the jaws of a larger animal or predator anzigh, we are made to work to earn money to do the same thing. The other side of the coin has a ruthless pack "leader" (system and psychopaths in our case) making sure all stays in place. When this is under threat all is possible from buying off People to killing them. We are the animals and they see themselves as the Apex Predator entitled to make us suffer so they can keep going to their private Islands and estates to do whatever they want (already happening) without interference (interference also still happening, they feel this must go).

Schwab and consorts (Schwab might have stepped down for the public, however puppetmasters never retire), have been working towards fine tuning this system, the super Rich on-top, no middle class, everybody else on the bottom swimming around in their own sh*t while they are on Top telling everybody what to do through ruthless means (AI, robotic police, already happening), an Earth without empathy, they will kill this Planet and try to move on, if it fails they will submerge into their bunkers and emerge when the time is ripe again to start this crap all over again, happened before.

The objects in our atmosphere and Solar system are not here to help us, they are here to make you believe they are here to help us, unfortunately these are working towards the re-introduction of the worst of them all, remember, they lie, cheat and steal, truth does not exist to them, this too has happened before.

Even if we are in an artificial creation, it is still real to us.

Their final push is to destroy all standing in their way, this is why they need a World War, they truly think they are unstoppable and at the same time the epiphany of the Human race. They will most likely fail, even if they win, for us not much will change since the Worst of them all will be revered in awe by both sides when unfolded to the People, for this creature it is a win, win, create a problem and present oneself as saviour (not talking about Yeshua here btw), look familiar, ooh wait yes, like how the Psychopathic Elite from the West operates.

In any case, take this on-board or not, keep it in back of mind at least so when it happens you know you were warned and maybe there will be hope instead of fear, simply because all this suffering will end too and balance will return.

[9ideon]

In addition to the post above:

Mr. Lavrov:

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Russians are now beginning to see this issue beyond Ukraine too, at least now they're addressing it in public and for the World to see/hear.

[9ideon]

Didn't Trump say he would be President of peace?

He did, didn't he. So why the sudden flip on for instance Iran?

See, don't forget that Netanyahu has been repeating the same party-line for almost 30 years, namely, Iran is going to be finishing an Atom bomb soon, you know, since 1996!

On the one hand Iran is some Theological backwards country that wants to create a nuke to drop it onto Israel. That same "backwards" ideology which doesn't allow the creation and use of Nuclear weapons in the 1st place, again they contradict themselves and the public simply cannot look beyond mainstream lies and the words of Narcissistic Psychopaths, this time (again and again) by Nethanyahu Genocidal.

So why does Trump suddenly swap camps, this is what it looks like right, I mean really, he simply ignores his appointed "intelligence" director Gabbard's assessment clearly stating Iran is not building nukes. What is the reason behind it?

If you have been paying attention for the past let's say 8 Months one can see the press talking about Iran wanting to assassinate Trump as revenge for the killing of General Suljemani (Iran) during his first term, his FIRST term. If Iran wanted a simple revenge killing they could have done that way easier during Biden's term, I doubt Biden would have figured it out in time anyway simply because they would all be drunk (not literal) by the fact someone whacked Trump, so why now?

Because there is no plan by Iran to assassinate Trump, it was to be a false flag, let me explain.

They were going to kill Trump if he would not agree on starting a war (now still a proxy by Israel way) with Iran, all masses would have pointed to Iran demanding satisfaction, thus war would be declared.

So they gave him that choice, in the end both outcomes would result in war with Iran, at least the one he chose had him still kicking it.

In other words, they gave him the choice, Blue pill or Red pill.

Since Trump is a dealmaker the choice was easy for him, when your outmanoeuvred logic dictates it is best to go with what is healthy for you and your family.

Like I mentioned a few posts up, Trumps inability to come up with a logical plan for peace across the board (Iran & Ukra) will result in war. If my theory is right a total attack on the West is now on the Horizon, meaning, closer than anytime before, China is already sending hardware and personal, Russia has between 200-600 People (Civs) working at a nuclear facility in Iran which they will not repatriate, Iran has not asked Russia for assistance yet <-- yet.

Time will tell.

[9ideon]

Didn't Trump say he would be President of peace?

He did, didn't he. So why the sudden flip on for instance Iran?

See, don't forget that Netanyahu has been repeating the same party-line for almost 30 years, namely, Iran is going to be finishing an Atom bomb soon, you know, since 1996!

On the one hand Iran is some Theological backwards country that wants to create a nuke to drop it onto Israel. That same "backwards" ideology which doesn't allow the creation and use of Nuclear weapons in the 1st place, again they contradict themselves and the public simply cannot look beyond mainstream lies and the words of Narcissistic Psychopaths, this time (again and again) by Nethanyahu Genocidal.

So why does Trump suddenly swap camps, this is what it looks like right, I mean really, he simply ignores his appointed "intelligence" director Gabbard's assessment clearly stating Iran is not building nukes. What is the reason behind it?

If you have been paying attention for the past let's say 8 Months one can see the press talking about Iran wanting to assassinate Trump as revenge for the killing of General Suljemani (Iran) during his first term, his FIRST term. If Iran wanted a simple revenge killing they could have done that way easier during Biden's term, I doubt Biden would have figured it out in time anyway simply because they would all be drunk (not literal) by the fact someone whacked Trump, so why now?

Because there is no plan by Iran to assassinate Trump, it was to be a false flag, let me explain.

They were going to kill Trump if he would not agree on starting a war (now still a proxy by Israel way) with Iran, all masses would have pointed to Iran demanding satisfaction, thus war would be declared.

So they gave him that choice, in the end both outcomes would result in war with Iran, at least the one he chose had him still kicking it.

In other words, they gave him the choice, Blue pill or Red pill.

Since Trump is a dealmaker the choice was easy for him, when your outmanoeuvred logic dictates it is best to go with what is healthy for you and your family.

Like I mentioned a few posts up, Trumps inability to come up with a logical plan for peace across the board (Iran & Ukra) will result in war. If my theory is right a total attack on the West is now on the Horizon, meaning, closer than anytime before, China is already sending hardware and personal, Russia has between 200-600 People (Civs) working at a nuclear facility in Iran which they will not repatriate, Iran has not asked Russia for assistance yet <-- yet.

Time will tell.

US bombed Iran couple hours ago, guess we're now directly in the telling time thing, bunch of Clowns.

It's a very sad day for Humanity (again).

[9ideon]

Trump declaring a ceasefire, not just that, some entire plan was presented in which this that such and so was declared.... Guess what, it turned out to be a fabrication and Iran responded with a good amount of attacks by missile way.

Why?

Honestly, it is almost like the US is, like most People about whatever, in denial about the situation they have found themselves in. Like many good school-yard bullies they attacked a Nation without cause (fabricated proof is still not a valid cause), declared a very questionable "victory" and pressured in a fashion Bullies will be most proud of by dictating Iran not to strike back, not because the US is this big Dog, nope, because it's actually very weak and cannot handle a full scale war right now, their bluff failed and to make things worse, Iran is backed up by China, Russia and well... North Korea (who would have guessed that in 2016 ehh).

That being said, that whole attack on US bases by Iran reeks of theatre play, actually, the entire exchange with the US seems like a circus act. Is that ceasefire Clown-show debacle just so the US has a valid reason to go all out, like I mentioned, they really cannot afford to, the West will be attacked on multiple fronts if they do...ooh wait... yes still on the table that scenario.

What is really going on here? And no I do not think this is created by all parties involved in some dark backroom, what I do believe is that they (West) are bending all directions to make People believe these are the end-times, I do not think they realise that a self fulfilling prophecy is still a prophecy.

But really, what the hell is going on here? Whatever the case, by various replies of American and European Civilians I can safely say that the plate in front of head is not just thick, it's beyond massive at this stage, which is very concerning when you realise that the Lunatics are running the Asylum.

[9ideon]

When they start seeing you as an enemy to their survival they will use restraint, when you truly cross a line (which will depend on Trump’s inability to create a logical peace-plan (total))

The quote above is from a few post up, the image with the detonations creating artificial Tsunamies cannot be uploaded anymore but to one site, Post-Images has shadow banned the image and will now appear Blanc, other sites as well, meaning that someone somewhere does not want this out in visual, I'll repost the image in this post as well, just because it is still possible on one site I found (trying a couple), let's see for how long.

Anyway, back to the quote, I had a firm believe that the attack from Israel and later the US would activate a response from China and Russia, in a way it did, luckily for many People it stayed with warnings and fight talk. The US stopped that Clownshow attack simply because it had to.

So for Trump to now ok long-range attacks into Russia (all handled by Nato, not one single Ukrainian will be involved), must trigger a response, Russians are getting pretty sick of the restrained nature the Kremlin is taking, perhaps done on purpose to get to that moment of no more.

Whatever the reason, China is ready now, they have been prepping and building crap for a while now, logic dictates that when China is physically ready crap could go off, Russia cannot let these long range attacks slide, not anymore, they'll be the laughing stock of the Planet if this happens, Civilians will most likely start to turn against their Govt, not the way the West would like, but still.

In any case, it's going to get interesting, King of the North is going cuckoo as far as I am concerned.

Image banned from several uploading thingies, I would see if anyone can use post-image to see if it shows, for me it's all black.

https://storage.imgbly.com/imgbly/uCQGIkQ1vC.png

[9ideon]

Wef are National Socialists, a broken off evolved branch of the Old defeated but hidden Nazi ideology.

Take a look at vid below for more info.

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[9ideon]

I found this vid today, this is about that torpedo Russia has which can create a Tsunami. It is a little different than those seismic mines, that being written, small step for Russian science, huge water-wall for Mankind.

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Presenter talks about it being unlikely it can create a high water-wall, I came to the same conclusion when creating my theory, that's why I contemplated multiple (carrier) detonations in the pic, with supporting carrier detonations along the way. This could create a large enough water-wall.

[9ideon]

So, fight talk from the Us is getting to a point where one either has to take pity on that typical Us bullying or take it serious. Both would be advised. The article quotes below are not being well received in Russia, am talking civilians here, I guess we do not need to imagine what the Kremlin thinks here.


General Donahue: Kaliningrad Could Be Wiped Out Faster Than Ever Before

NATO and its allies are fully capable of wiping out Russia’s Kaliningrad region in record time, according to General Christopher Donahue, commander of the US Army in Europe and Africa. His remarks were reported by Defence News following a military conference in Wiesbaden, Germany


It is no surprise that a plan is already on the table, it would be strange if it were not, again, the arrogance of our Western Psychopaths speaks volumes, is there no one that can imagine Russia has already contemplated this attack plan?


“Kaliningrad is surrounded by NATO members, and now we have the ability to erase it from the map in unprecedented time — faster than we’ve ever been able to,” Donahue stated. “We’ve already planned it, and we’ve already developed it.”

Source (https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/163260-nato-threat-kaliningrad-strike-plan/)

We're getting to the more or less overrun part of my scenario, not that Ukraine is overrun, surely it is going to collapse on multiple position at the contact line.

Like China mentioned Russia cannot loose this war, Nato has a similar thought on Ukraine though, de-facto already a member, article 5 namely gives the opportunity to support a Hato country with money and weapons if no troops are send, something Nato has been doing for a good while now.


By this time the Ukraine has been completely overrun by Russian troops.

Nato has to respond (war is declared) and starts bombing Russian targets. More land-forces are flown in.


Obviously flown in is a matter of speech, they'll come by water too, together with more hardware, hence that artificial Tsunami attack I have been theorising, it'll take out all ports in question.

Things just got more serious. Pressure cooker is about to release steam.

[9ideon]

Ukraine and Russia are now "bombing" the crap out of each other, with Hitlenskyy asking for experimental weapons as well as long range ones, it is only a matter of time before something goes off. Middle East is cooking up again as well, Us baiting North Korea in passing too, it is not looking good.

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We also have a General, apparently also a grandchild of a Nazi General, telling Hitlenskyy to start bombing Russian Airfields, I can only see destruction in our futures.

When this comes to pass, unfortunately for many of us there will be no more internet, perhaps at the start, then with intervals before going dark completely. I hope that Bill and Rintintin have made a plan for preservation of the database when this comes to pass.

It's all fun and games, making scenarios like this, but... when it starts looking like it's going to happen, pretty much anytime now (I cannot see Russia extending much restrained on Nato firing and choosing Russian targets, including Civilian infrastructure and Russians) some rocket will land on a target which is going to be the proverbial last drop in the bucket, it will be on.

It is not the end I had in mind for myself, but eh, like a friend of mine once said, "Would you rather die in bed or in some Sci-Fi disaster". Cannot say I disagree.

[9ideon]

Us moving pieces.

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Lindsey Graham (what a poor excuse for a Human that is) babbling about:

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[Jaak]

Wef are National Socialists, a broken off evolved branch of the Old defeated but hidden Nazi ideology.

Take a look at vid below for more info.

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Man in the video claims grandfather of Kaja Kallas (Eduard Alver) was a nazi who killed jews .
He died in 1939 .Nazis arrived in Estonia in 1941 . Im just wondering if this guy has some knowledge that nobody else knows or why he is yapping nonsense . Quick wikipedia search would show that which he has not bothered to do ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Alver
Kaja Kallas is jewish , just like his 33 degree freemason father Siim Kallas who was a high ranking communist during soviet union era . Both of them were prime ministers of Estonia at some point , mainly thanks to freemason daddy who kept helping her idiot daughter to higher positions .
Why ignore that fact and make up stuff that flips the picture 180 degrees ?
Kaja Kallas has not done anything to improve the lives of Estonians or its economy . Quite the opposite which would make her a lousy nazi because i thought that is the main goal of national socialists. Instead while she was prime minister Estonia received 200 000 non-estonians (in a country of 1+ million it is a lot ) , more taxes ,worse relations with Russia which was largely her doing , higher prices etc .
Im doubtful thats what nazis do . Jewish freemasons on the other hand ...

[9ideon]

Wef are National Socialists, a broken off evolved branch of the Old defeated but hidden Nazi ideology.

Take a look at vid below for more info.



Man in the video claims grandfather of Kaja Kallas (Eduard Alver) was a nazi who killed jews .
He died in 1939 .Nazis arrived in Estonia in 1941 . Im just wondering if this guy has some knowledge that nobody else knows or why he is yapping nonsense . Quick wikipedia search would show that which he has not bothered to do ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Alver
Kaja Kallas is jewish , just like his 33 degree freemason father Siim Kallas who was a high ranking communist during soviet union era . Both of them were prime ministers of Estonia at some point , mainly thanks to freemason daddy who kept helping her idiot daughter to higher positions .
Why ignore that fact and make up stuff that flips the picture 180 degrees ?
Kaja Kallas has not done anything to improve the lives of Estonians or its economy . Quite the opposite which would make her a lousy nazi because i thought that is the main goal of national socialists. Instead while she was prime minister Estonia received 200 000 non-estonians (in a country of 1+ million it is a lot ) , more taxes ,worse relations with Russia which was largely her doing , higher prices etc .
Im doubtful thats what nazis do . Jewish freemasons on the other hand ...

Thanks for the reply.

Everybody knows Wiki is being censored.

Not something one should refer to in relation to truth, even though it might in this case, Wiki should be used for simple info where there is hardly any room for censorship.

Besides, that video might have one person's history wrong (I agree that this content creator should have done a little more research on the man, it puzzles me why such a mistake is made), Nazism did not spread with the war, it spread with Politics.

Jews have been working with the Old Nazi's for years, Soros being the best example. Besides, Zionists (kinda fake Jews) had worked with the Nazi's for quite some time to create a Zionist Nation exactly where Israel is today, that plan failed obviously.



The Haavara Agreement was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist organisations signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalised after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. It was a major factor in making possible the migration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine between 1933 and 1939.


https://i.postimg.cc/638sr9nL/Haavara.jpg



Ein Nazi fahrt nach Palestina, let that sink in for a while!

Despite this has all being filed under Nazi propaganda these days, it did happen and the plans were real, they just changed the way to get rid of the Jews, Zionists however, well look at Israel today.


Just because one name might have been worked out questionable doesn't mean the entire story is nonsense, one just needs to look at current affairs.

That being mentioned, being Jewish these days is not a reason for not being in this new off-branch, if you would have read other parts of this Thread, you would know that these People are an off-branch of Nazi ideology.

They are Fascist in nature but their Race ideology has changed from Jews etc to Poor People (You will own nothing and be happy). That latter reason is why it is an off-branch, you remember Einstein? Said something like it being insane doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome?

They're Wolves in Sheep's clothing, pretending to be this and that, but in reality cooking up something much worse, again, if you would have read more entries here you would know why I came to this conclusion, not the only one either, but since you didn't bother reading the posts on this, let me help you understanding it a little.



Wef are not Communists, they (Schwab) positions his Markx and Commie books in a Psy-op kinda way when being interviewed at home or some, other members do the same when possible and they use little Sociopaths (Starmer) to further this message to the public while those same Sociopaths are mostly unaware of the truth behind Wef.




What they have been doing and preparing is to overload the Democratic process with nonsense through fear and chaos, Anarchy really (like Thamiel), so that it will collapse, with immigrants coming in by the boatloads, immigrants whom in most countries are not being vaccinated against deceases we got rid of ages ago, simply because that would be racist (fact), immigrants that are not required to integrate into our Societies (exceptions always present) so that they basically bring their home problems with them into their Hosts countries (fact), Locals made to adjust to foreigners instead of the other way around. Apartheid when it comes to dealing with issues concerning quality of life problems that always go into the direction of these Guests. Crime of these same People being brushed under carpets while the problem only gets bigger since no one is stopping them (rape gangs (not only UK), armed violence etc).

Setting up incapable Politicians (Sociopaths, Baerbock, Schoof, Timmermans, Truss for instance) into positions of power directed by Psychopaths (Rutte, Macron, Trudeau, Biden, Harris etc) to ensure agendas (woke nonsense, mass migrations, wars) are implemented in order to ensure Chaos and Anarchy which now runs wild on Western streets, especially in the UK, while keeping the public in fear so they can implement more control over you, taking away even more of your already half robbed money so control over your own life becomes less and theirs multiplies over the backs, deaths and hardwork of their "Citizens" (they call directional commodities).

In the US they have the best system really, bouncing People between two parties that have no interest in being Representatives for the People but only look at keeping a corrupt support system in place for the self proclaimed so called "elite". While at the same time setting up a system of Corporations that work towards that same goal, domination of Earths population through fear, violence and the feeling of being Powerless.

They create the feeling we are being powerless in our own respective Cultural bubbles, making us feel it will be destroyed (unfortunately it will at this rate) and nothing can be done about it. This is when People start choosing extreme right parties, not the ones one sees emerging now, they are (besides the PVV in the Netherlands) not under the control of these Psychopaths (Romanian Guy, French Le Penn etc) so they are eliminated through their corrupt courts and fake laws

But hey, if you want to believe it is all to do with Jewish Free Masons, have at it, it just proves their scheme is working.

[9ideon]

Been trying to get my head around why Trump has moved that 50 day deadline to 12 or some. Noticed a comment on a video mentioning that Norway needed to be paid attention to for the next ten days (couple days ago). Norway has been going on about Israel, can't see this as reason to quit Hato though.

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We all know why Weasel Macron backs Palestinians, not because he cares about Palestine, more about Muslim votes he's going to get out of that.

Anyway, Norway seems to have had enough concerning Israel, the warning in those comments relating to that video I was watching sounded/read more urgent, let's see where this goes.

My best guess is that Ukraine is about to collapse military wise, that 50 day window might have been to "generous" in relation to the Smo and progress being made inside that meatgrinder. It means either boots on the ground, or direct attack on Russia and allies, most likely both.

Economically this has happened now with the tariff increase done the previous day. Is this deflection? Or is it a prelude?

Why a prelude?

As soon as Hato attacks Russia and allies, most likely global trade for Russia comes to a physical end, I can't see Russia being able to send civilian ships and cargo planes to Brazil for instance without losses, despite the possibility the entirety of Hato's Naval forces being sunk inside 16 minutes, which might be a generous time frame, subs are a harder nut to crack. Therefore countries like Brazil might need to turn to other countries like Western ones to get certain trade goods replenished, just a thought, there's obviously more to it, but it could very well be a direct pre-war strategy the West is taking.

The Us's incoherent talk about Bricks lately, especially that comment about the dollar, is something I have been anticipating for a couple years now, they need a war to settle that, otherwise it's going to be lights out with that 40 Trillion or some debt, had discussions with friends from the states about this, well, some are not friends any more, once you burst their little bubble they kinda go into these tantrums, like little Children do, am sure People recognise this typical behaviour from our Northern American Cousins.

Like mentioned before, King of the North is going Cuckoo, I wonder what they discussed with that Visiting Roscosmos Director the other day. We're probably going to find out the next 8 days or so.

[9ideon]

Meeting Putin and Trump tomorrow, I can't be the only one who's got some weird feeling about it all. I wonder how Putin has come to trust the West all of a sudden, even if it is Trump, Trump's not really trustworthy himself now.

What if... they take 'm both out... Or what if Hato sneak attacks during this meeting?

Well, guess we'll have to wait and see, probably storm in a glass of water, still though...

[9ideon]

Iranian missiles can reach Rome!

Italy needs to place Air-defenses near the Vatican (in Rome), better be safe than sorry (prophecy).

[Bill Ryan]

Iranian missiles can reach Rome!

Italy needs to place Air-defenses near the Vatican (in Rome), better be safe than sorry (prophecy).Yes! Now we know that elderly and frail religious leaders, who may never have held a gun in their life, are fair game, the Pope better be careful. :)