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Ewan
4th February 2022, 14:25
Looking for input here from our worldwide audience about countries that are not really going along with the totalitarian lockstep (https://archive.org/details/the-annotated-rockefeller-foundation-lockstep-2010/page/n17/mode/2up), a bleak scenario that seemingly edges ever closer in the West and elsewhere, (eg. Israel).

So any countries that are veering away from the overarching narrative and seem more amenable to preserving personal freedoms, are there even any such places?

Please do share any info, thanks.

ulli
4th February 2022, 15:39
Looking for input here from our worldwide audience about countries that are not really going along with the totalitarian lockstep (https://archive.org/details/the-annotated-rockefeller-foundation-lockstep-2010/page/n17/mode/2up), a bleak scenario that seemingly edges ever closer in the West and elsewhere, (eg. Israel).

So any countries that are veering away from the overarching narrative and seem more amenable to preserving personal freedoms, are there even any such places?

Please do share any info, thanks.

Hmm…Sub-Sahara Africa?

But then again, there may be other issues there.
Safety is relative; has to do with attitude, and nurturing one’s connecting with higher invisible realities.

In my view that is the direction the universe is herding humanity towards.
The ones who are going to make it are those who let the universe know
that they are consciously turning their backs on the high-tech progressives.

yelik
4th February 2022, 16:22
Countries like Switzerland, Austria, Australia, New Zealand and Canada typically appear high in freedom rankings, but turned draconian under the plandemic. Perhaps in those countries the leaders tried so hard to 'do the right thing' they became tyrannical without even realising it. Perhaps they had too many booster shots.

I've been thinking about this and thought about living on a boat somewhere or in the mountains away from it all. Can easily raise the anckor and go elsewhere - the question is where. At the moment the UK isn't too bad until next time when I don't think that will be the case when the human rights charter is rewritten

For the moment I'm letting the dust settle and take it from there.

As Uli mentions above, I do expect to see a separation of society between Human vs Human/AI hyrids. The human group will expand by way of high level consciouness and the other will be seen as more intelligent through information but severely lacking in emotional intellect which will be seen as a weakness

Inversion
4th February 2022, 16:42
Years ago Ed Dames gave out some safe locations on Coast-to-Coast AM and those places got flooded with people. The other day I was looking up marching in lockstep examples on YT. I looked at the Nazis, North Koreans and Chinese military. I heard the reptilians will walk in perfect unison with their leg movements and it was explained the AI that controls them does that. On occasion I've seen people walking like that and one will completely conceal the other if viewed from the side.


lock·step
/ˈläkˌstep/

noun

a way of marching with each person as close as possible to the one in front.
"the trio marched in lockstep"

close adherence to and emulation of another's actions.
"they raised prices in lockstep with those of foreign competitors"

gord
4th February 2022, 17:37
I can't think of a nation where every significant lever of power hasn't been completely hijacked for a long time already, so maybe somewhere quite isolated, with the possiblity of total self-sufficiency, among a small group of like minded people, BUT that's really not at all appealing to me.

I'd rather somehow find a way to show enough people just how extensive and pervasive and relentless all sorts of varieties of social engineering and propaganda really are, everywhere, to get more people to do something, even just think, rather than just repeating what they've been told to think.

I have noticed that a high percentage of eastern europeans who are old enough, have no doubts at all about what they're seeing happening, but I don't know how they or others could get anyone without a similar background to see it as well.

Short answer: I don't really know how to give a good answer.

Eva2
4th February 2022, 19:38
In my part of the world, there seems to be a big exodus to Mexico

Johan (Keyholder)
4th February 2022, 20:34
It's a very interesting question and it should interest all of us.

Now, many here don't have a lot of options: either lack of means, other commitments (like a job, mortgage, children, parents,...) or a health that is not good enough can limit the choices available.

That does not mean we can not think about what could work. I believe that Ulli and Gord made useful comments.

Ulli: Hmm…Sub-Sahara Africa?

But then again, there may be other issues there.
Safety is relative; has to do with attitude, and nurturing one’s connecting with higher invisible realities.

In my view that is the direction the universe is herding humanity towards.
The ones who are going to make it are those who let the universe know
that they are consciously turning their backs on the high-tech progressives.

Sub-Sahara Africa makes sense. But as mentioned, other problems arise there. Like lots of poverty, corrupted governments, droughts and floods, approach to the Covid-situation, difficult to get there and many more. Yet, I do think that each country should be considered separately, and make a sort of SWOT-analysis of it. That's just for the "physical" aspects of it, safety is indeed relative and attitude is "key".

I fully agree with the polarisation and separation of Transhumanist AI-centered versus Nature-centered individuals that is already now happening.

Gord: I can't think of a nation where every significant lever of power hasn't been completely hijacked for a long time already, so maybe somewhere quite isolated, with the possiblity of total self-sufficiency, among a small group of like minded people, BUT that's really not at all appealing to me.

True, but some a more hijacked than others. I understand that his own suggestion doesn't appeal to him. It may however appeal to others.

So, what are we looking for?

* a country in the sub-sahara (another area may possibly qualify too), but this is a good one.
* not "too" corrupted
* an isolated area, high altitude but not TOO high altitude, not prone to all sorts of climate-troubles (like floods, earthquakes, droughts...).
* possibility to be self-sufficient (own water/well, solar/wind/hydraulic power for electricity, permaculture and other ways to produce organic foods).
* possible to immigrate there without having to make a "huge" investment.
* gather a small group of likeminded people.
* it may be expensive to travel there, so a lot of going "over-and back" may be difficult to do.

There is more. But it's a start. Maybe (together here) we can find such a place...

meat suit
4th February 2022, 21:41
Wales seems pretty good so far,
but I have been thinking about a boat in international waters as a last resort. I haven't at all looked into it though... does anybody know what the rules are in international waters?

The Moss Trooper
4th February 2022, 21:46
If you have £ or $ Dubai is an excellent place to be............. Believe me, it is business as usual there. I'll give them this, they ain't daft, they know EXACTLY what is going on.

Bonus Level: A handful of Eastern European countries are fantastic options at the minute if you are looking for life before the Bullsh!t. Residency & passports can be bought, as can judicial & political protection.


It ain't ALL doom & gloom out there.......... As Public Enemy said....... "Don't Believe the Hype".

pyrangello
4th February 2022, 21:50
Get the movie waterworld meat suit and fishing poles :). I asked a wise elderly simple Missouri farming woman one time , if the nukes start flying what would you do? "She said get a glass of ice tea and go sit in a lounge chair in the yard and watch the show"! Trust yourself , trust your guardian angels , and stay on your path, everyone here at Avalon were drawn here for a reason. Do what you feel you need to do by instinct not reactive. Were all gonna be just fine as we are on the path we are suppose to be . :)

Kryztian
4th February 2022, 22:00
So any countries that are veering away from the overarching narrative and seem more amenable to preserving personal freedoms, are there even any such places?


If things keep getting worse in the "democratic" countries, North Korea could start looking mighty good by comparison - at least they don't have any vaxxes, GMOs or 5G there. :sun:

EarthGirl
4th February 2022, 22:42
Yep once you are 12miles from any land it's a "free for all" as there are no laws that govern it. While there might be agreements as to what you are supposed to do, nobody pays attention... Fact...

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This is in reply to meat suit...

EarthGirl
4th February 2022, 22:46
AT the end of the day, do you like where you live? if you don't move... Find the life you'd like to live!...

It may not be perfect, but at least you're trying to live a BETTER life...

Have I got this wrong?
...

Johan (Keyholder)
4th February 2022, 22:52
As far as I know, EarthGirl is right. However, at sea - on each ship - it is the law of the flag of the country one has, that counts. A bit the same as with airplanes. Of course, when you are around Suwarrow... or Oeno Island or the like, who is going to watch and maybe interfere? Maybe Musk (or someone like him) with his satellites. In many area's (outside 12 mile zones) there are pirates (yes, that's true).

You will also need to land to get provisions; the sea alone won't feed you.

And it would be very easy for ANY major nation that doesn't like what you're doing to "torpedo you away". Who would save you right?

I have thought about this idea, but while it looked good at first, I did not carry that thought for long.

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Trying to figure out a way to live a BETTER life is EXACTLY what this thread is about!
You are very right about that EarthGirl!

TomKat
5th February 2022, 01:06
Looking for input here from our worldwide audience about countries that are not really going along with the totalitarian lockstep (https://archive.org/details/the-annotated-rockefeller-foundation-lockstep-2010/page/n17/mode/2up), a bleak scenario that seemingly edges ever closer in the West and elsewhere, (eg. Israel).

So any countries that are veering away from the overarching narrative and seem more amenable to preserving personal freedoms, are there even any such places?

Please do share any info, thanks.

Hmm…Sub-Sahara Africa?

But then again, there may be other issues there.
Safety is relative; has to do with attitude, and nurturing one’s connecting with higher invisible realities.

In my view that is the direction the universe is herding humanity towards.
The ones who are going to make it are those who let the universe know
that they are consciously turning their backs on the high-tech progressives.

I believe in alternate timelines. I feel that the totalitarianism we are experiencing on our timeline is reflected from a much worse timeline, and it will not succeed on ours.

Ewan
5th February 2022, 10:57
A List Of The Easiest Citizenships You Can Get And Cheapest Countries To Buy Passport (https://www.offshore-protection.com/easiest-countries-get-second-passport)
Last updated on 02 February 2022.

Interesting for the Caribbean options.

This one (https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-where-you-can-buy-citizenship-residency-or-passport-2018-9?r=US&IR=T) is well out of date being 2018 and pre-Plandemic

However I note a family of four could get a 5 year visa for £31,363 ($42,464) in Thailand back then, probably changed?

Carribean options again feature with an investment in property to value of $200,000 (£154,226) in both Antigua and Barbuda & Dominica

Columbia, Ecuador, and Paraguay have very affordable land prices.

Lots of cheap land options (https://www.propertyunder50k.com/properties-by-continent/africa/land) in Africa but that needs a lot of investigation in regards to safety. (I was advised to never consider buying farmland in Sth Africa for instance by a long time resident, and know of two Zimbabwe expats forced to return to UK as their land was sold by the govt back to local Africans).

Johan (Keyholder)
5th February 2022, 11:34
Africa has been on my mind too.

But most countries - even if land is cheap there - would not be an option.
South Africa, Zimbabwe, Nigeria... and many others (like Sierra Leone, Liberia, ...).
So, figuring out which countries still would "qualify" is important to begin with.

Then, if the idea is to create a (small) ic ("intentional community"), enough land should be available.
As well as everything needed to start organic pharming. And enough isolated as well.
Plus not too much potential problems with droughts, floods and the like.
And a not too large investment in order to immigate there.
Homeschooling would probably be needed too, if there are children.

I believe it is not simple to find that, but not impossible either.
Maybe we can look together for suitable options?

A country like Costa Rica may offer possibilities too.
Less isolated than Africa, less poverty, and maybe feasible.
The necessary investment there is $ 200.000, if I am correct.