Joe Rogan Apologizes...Again

[Mike]

So some race baiting lunatic recently posted to social media what is basically an n-word highlight reel of Joe using this word at various times during the last 12 years of his podcast. Of course absolutely no context is provided. It's more of the same disingenuous tactics used by the same cynical actors that have been perpetuating the same bullsh!t for the last year or so.

Joe of course never once called anyone an n-word. Not once. He only used the word in a descriptive sense when explaining various things, like Richard Pryor's album titles for example. I won't delve into every example but they're all in that spirit.

I said a couple days ago, after his last misguided apology re covid, that the blood was in the water now, and the sharks would soon be circling. Well they're circling alright.

First he's a covid denier. Now he's a racist. Of course. It couldn't have been any more predictable. It's page one of the radical left's playbook.

Well Joe has apologized yet again. A truly boneheaded move on his part. First of all, he did nothing wrong and therefore had nothing to apologize for. Second, even if he did do something wrong, you never apologize to the enemy, as Steven Crowder explains here. They are not interested in Joe updating his thinking and they're not interested in working with him in the future; they are only interested in gaslighting him and manipulating him into an apology to gain ideological power and highground.

Joe has just metaphorically bent the knee to the mob twice now..in a matter of days. First for the covid thing, and now this. It makes me physically ill to watch it.

Here are a couple takes on all this, one by Crowder and one by Sam Harris..both basically agreeing with my take here. Joe's apology is in the Crowder vid.

Sam drifts off into covid briefly, where his opinions - in my view - are painfully obtuse. But I generally find him to be sane and grounded in every other way


About 10 mins long:
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[thepainterdoug]

its all out of proportion and control.

[T Smith]

His apology made me cringe. It's one thing to say "I apologize if I offended anyone; that was not my intent." I wouldn't have had so much of a problem with that, despite its weakness, but the way he apologized was just pathetic, and frankly, wrong.

[Mike]

Glenn Loury and John McWhorter break it all down in this short 8 minute vid:
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[Apulu]

Glenn Loury and John McWhorter break it all down in this short 8 minute vid:
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Fabulously, casually erudite that was... I'm off to listen to more of these two...

[jaybee]

I'm not sure what form exactly the second apology took re the N word attack but the first one was (from memory) 'sorry you feel that way' - kind of thing rather than sorry for what I did... in fact he defended what he said and did... and pointed out he was taken out of context with the racism one... that attack was a very well organized move from 'the enemy'... there's more about that in this post on the other thread about Rogan...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117293-Joe-Rogan-interview-with-Dr.-Robert-Malone-December-2021&p=1481111&viewfull=1#post1481111

It's up to Joe Rogan to say and do what he feels is best at the time and under the circumstances IMO... that's where I stand on this...

The saying 'you can please some of the people all of the time...etc etc...' comes to mind...

But anyway he's ok and according to this InfoWars article, in a good place...

https://www.infowars.com/posts/joe-rogan-is-under-unprecedented-censorship-attack-and-hes-never-been-happier/


The comedian is excited to represent a symbol of free humanity and a truly authentic expression of dissident thinking against regime orthodoxy in these unprecedented times.

Indicating that he will share more good news on his podcast soon, Rogan remains ever the happy warrior.

He’s invigorated, audacious, and he’s not going anywhere.

[Bill Ryan]

An admirably sane overview of all this from Sean Hannity, on Fox News.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUoMg5eseZo

[RunningDeer]

Tucker Carlson: These are not private businesses acting independently. They are acting in response to the threats of government that regulates them.


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Glenn Greenwald reacts to White House
on Spotify's stance on Joe Rogan (3:44 min)
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[TargeT]

this appears to be a coordinated attack from a SUPER PAC

not surprised tho...

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[rgray222]

The truth is if you are a straight white man you can absolutely NEVER be woke enough. No matter how much Rogan apologizes, removes content or defends himself it will never be enough. I understand Rogan coming out once and apologizing, it was a naive ill-advised response to those seeking power through the use of race and victimhood. Apologizing a second and third time and removing content shows a true lack of understanding.

To my knowledge, Rogan is not politically left or right he is a man that allows different viewpoints to flourish and encourages people to critically think so they can make up their own minds. This is his power and this is why he is a danger to the politicians, media and the elites.

[T Smith]

. Apologizing a second and third time and removing content shows a true lack of understanding.



You hit the nail directly on its head. Listening to the second and third apology, I honestly think the dynamic afoot here is something Joe might not understand.

[ExomatrixTV]

Rumble offers $100 million for Joe Rogan to leave Spotify (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117819-Rumble-offers-100-million-for-Joe-Rogan-to-leave-Spotify) :dog::popcorn::bump:

[1212is24]

Should've gone with the 'Fat Joe' route for this one...

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[Spiral]

I think Joe needs to join this forum so he can get some sensible advice for once.

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Rogan, just a podcaster, gets crucified for saying the N-word, even though it was out of context.

Now this has surfaced, of the President of the United States doing the very same thing in context. The question is - what now?!

In my humble view, an apology is no good. He should step down immediately.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1490077613787811840

[TargeT]

. Apologizing a second and third time and removing content shows a true lack of understanding.



You hit the nail directly on its head. Listening to the second and third apology, I honestly think the dynamic afoot here is something Joe might not understand.

he's a leftie... they don't get what their own counterpart's tactics are... we've seen this quite a few times when leftists try to capitulate and then just further their own cancel...

the snake eating it's own tail, as it were.

[RunningDeer]

Rogan, just a podcaster, gets crucified for saying the N-word, even though it was out of context.

Now this has surfaced, of the President of the United States doing the very same thing in context. The question is - what now?!

In my humble view, an apology is no good. He should step down immediately.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1490077613787811840
The rest of the story…
Biden is quoting from a letter @ 1:20.


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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks Paula. I retract the "in context" remark. The clip was in fact him saying the words out of context. But doesn't that still count? According to the wokists, it still very much counts. Ask Joe Rogan.

Also, re Biden:

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1311318159761252353

[rgray222]

Language


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ9Vq94zGJg

[Mike]

Wow, gotta love Adesanya! That dude is just awesome.

The n-word is a harsh, dogmatic word, loaded with a brutal history. I'd prefer no one say it ever again, but it's here to stay and and it's inevitable that we bump into it from time to time. And it's also inevitable that the bumping into it will sometimes be clumsy and awkward. But it should be clear to anyone with just a modicum of intelligence that Rogan is a good man caught in a deliberate political attack. That's all this is about. Everyone knows that, but in this day and age it's considered socially advanced to pretend he's racist. We've become a planet of actors, and it's just the strangest thing. I really have the greatest difficulty trying to wrap my head around it

That singer, Indie Arie, who put out the Rogan video, shame on her. She's just perpetuating the ruse and making it harder on all black people, ultimately. If she truly had an issue with Rogan she should have approached him back channel, opposed to the public grandstanding. Any sincere individual seeking authentic dialogue would have done that

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Language


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ9Vq94zGJg

You know what, I really wish black people themselves didn't use that word. But they do. All the damn time, like a play thing. And I don't understand it. Gay people embrace the word 'queer', even when it's also supposed to be a derogatory term.

It would be tremendously advantageous, in my view, in stemming the tide against bigotry, if the targets of bigotry didn't constantly use the same bigoted terms they rail against.

[Mike]

I was at a friend's place today talking to someone I'd just met, and the topic of Rogan came up.

This guy was not a Rogan fan at all. And that's fine. But he practically glowed when he discussed the current controversy surrounding Joe. He was a little too happy about it. I didn't say much. I just let him talk. I watched him closely, and there was something about his energy that was initially perplexing but that I soon sorted out. It was almost as if he felt a sense of relief about it all.

And I think I know why...
Someone like Joe Rogan, just by being himself, provides a mirror that reflects back to the viewer their masculinity or lack of. He works out. He fights. He hunts. He smokes cigars. He's become a symbol of masculinity.

Masculinity, as we all know, has been demonized lately. It's all being done under the guise of "toxic masculinity". But make no mistake: they're just talking about regular old masculinity. And not just the masculinity in men, but the masculinity in women as well.

The woke love this demonization for obvious reasons, and so does a certain type of soft, delicate, and overly emotional male. They are compelled to dislike Rogan because if he symbolizes a standard for how men should behave, they'll be regarded as lesser than, or worse. They'll quickly plummet down social hierarchies and suffer emotionally and mentally as a result.

And while talking to this guy it just instantly occurred to me: his reaction to Rogan wasn't necessarily offensive...it was defensive. In other words, they're not necessarily trying to make something happen by slagging him, they're trying to prevent something from happening. Because in a world full of Rogans there would really be no place for them, and it scares them. And hey, I get that.

The type of males that openly declare their dislike for Rogan are almost unfailingly the same type of males: soft, overly-sensitive, fragile, overly-emotional, heavily dependent on others, are unable to provide for themselves for one reason or another..and so on. They will naturally recoil and get a bit defensive when these deficiencies are exposed.

To accept Rogan would be to reject themselves in some sense. It's similar with a guy like Jordan Peterson. Not wanting to update their thinking and assume responsibility for their weaknesses, they just keep doubling down on the criticism. Much easier that way than to grapple with the truth.

I don't hunt, I don't smoke cigars. But I do eat meat, work out and fight occasionally (jujitsu with friends). I'm not sure where that puts me on the Joe Rogan masculinity scale. But the thing about Joe that impresses the most is his intellect, curiosity, and willingness to communicate with nearly anyone. You can't parody his brand of masculinity by calling him a meathead, or a gym rat, or a weed smoker. He's sort of a Renaissance man, and that's what masculinity really should aspire to. He's a gentleman and a warrior. Many men have one or the other down, but not both. Joe has both down, and that's what accounts for his popularity.

[Strat]

Coincidentally I had the exact same thought the other day but not about Rogan. It was in regards to Jocko Wilinik and David Goggins. I think people lump them into the Rogan camp because they're friends and therefore secretly evil humans who do foul things. But if you listen to the words of someone like Goggins especially, he motivates and encourages people to better themselves. To work out and become the best you can be mentally and physically. The only reason I could find for people to hate on him is because they are insecure of themselves and scared to change.

[Bill Ryan]

A totally off-topic anecdote here about words you just can't say. :)

Way back in 2007, Camelot Witness 'Henry Deacon' emailed me all the words and phrases that are always picked up by Echelon surveillance. It was a long list, including many (presumably intel codewords) that I'd never heard of before. I copied it all to archive offline and deleted the email.

The next day, Henry wrote me again, saying "Oops... maybe I shouldn't have done that."

:)

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[Mike]

A totally off-topic anecdote here about words you just can't say. :)

Way back in 2007, Camelot Witness 'Henry Deacon' emailed me all the words and phrases that are always picked up by Echelon surveillance. It was a long list, including many (presumably intel codewords) that I'd never heard of before. I copied it all to archive offline and deleted the email.

The next day, Henry wrote me again, saying "Oops... maybe I shouldn't have done that."

:)

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Made me laugh!

I imagine "echelon" is one of those sensitive words? So now that I have their attention I'd like to take this opportunity to tell them to go f#ck themselves.:)

(P.S. I'm imagining a room full of agents in a dark stuffy room, hazed with cigarette smoke, sitting in cubicles. One of them stands up and raises a shot glass full of whiskey, says "We got another one boys," and slugs it down. The rest follow suit. "That's the 10,000,000,000th time someone has told us to go f#ck ourselves!" *Raucous applause*)

[rgray222]

Just want to point out the cancel culture originates from the left about 90% of the time. It is primarily (not always) targeted at Conservatives/Republicans but that is just misdirection. The cancel culture wants to destroy anyone (regardless of politics) who has a platform that reaches a large audience that cannot be controlled by the media, politicians or a political party. This is sadly funny.

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a511V2V_460svav1.mp4

[Gemma13]

rgray222 do you have a link for the Rogan clip? Ta.

[rgray222]

rgray222 do you have a link for the Rogan clip? Ta.

The longer version
https://youtu.be/QiejPMHhtTQ

The short version
https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a511V2V_460svav1.mp4

[Zamolxe]

Regarding the racism... you know he also mentions his "planet of the apes" video and says he didn't say it as a racist thing... he would never do that. But in his own clip (if you look at the full version) he acknowledges it was a racist thing to say. So again he is lying.

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Are these hit pieces? You could call them that... but I think that people are just trying to point out what kind of person Rogan actually is.

Millions follow his show and think of him as an open minded, smart, level headed guy and they listen to his opinions as they would from an authority figure.

But, in my opinion, that can't be farther from the truth. I've been following him for a while and he's none of that. He makes so many logical fallacies and has all the cognitive biases, it's hard to take the guy serious.

This is a clip I just found a few days ago, please go through it and let me know what kind of person you think he is...

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Btw, the ape was studied, all those samples were dna tested more than 15 years ago and it was a known species of chimp, look it up yourself. But that doesn't matter, even if it was all true... just the way he shuts down any counter argument, doesn't even listen to any other opinion... I mean the level of his congnitive dissonance... my god the ego on the guy.


Now... is this censorship? Rogan is hired by Spotify to do interviews, talk to guests and give his opinions.
If people are going to Spotify to criticize his work... is that censorship?

If I was hired by a company to do a job... and people would complain about the quality of my work and point out how I am lousy at it, I would get fired. Would that be censorship?

How are we supposed to criticize anyone if everything is censorship?

He is hired for his opinions
cognitive dissonance+cognitive biases+logical fallacies=poorly formed opinions
=> his job performance is poor => he is fired

A private company terminating a contract and stopping paying him because they don't like his work is not censorship.
He is free to open his own webpage and post his podcasts there.

When he won't be allowed to do that, then it would be censorship.