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apokalypse
12th March 2022, 14:23
Future biotechnology could be used to trick a prisoner's mind into thinking they have served a 1,000 year sentence, a group of scientists have claimed.

Philosopher Rebecca Roache is in charge of a team of scholars focused upon the ways futuristic technologies might transform punishment. Dr Roache claims the prison sentence of serious criminals could be made worse by extending their lives.

Speaking to Aeon magazine, Dr Roache said drugs could be developed to distort prisoners' minds into thinking time was passing more slowly.

"There are a number of psychoactive drugs that distort people’s sense of time, so you could imagine developing a pill or a liquid that made someone feel like they were serving a 1,000-year sentence," she said.

A second scenario would be to upload human minds to computers to speed up the rate at which the mind works, she wrote on her blog .
https://www.businessinsider.com/prisoners-could-serve-1000-year-sentence-in-85-hours-in-the-future-2014-3

time is really illusion it's all on the mind but the way we lived and we got the whole concept is wrong.

araucaria
13th March 2022, 08:22
Future biotechnology could be used to trick a prisoner's mind into thinking they have served a 1,000 year sentence, a group of scientists have claimed.

Philosopher Rebecca Roache is in charge of a team of scholars focused upon the ways futuristic technologies might transform punishment. Dr Roache claims the prison sentence of serious criminals could be made worse by extending their lives.

Speaking to Aeon magazine, Dr Roache said drugs could be developed to distort prisoners' minds into thinking time was passing more slowly.

"There are a number of psychoactive drugs that distort people’s sense of time, so you could imagine developing a pill or a liquid that made someone feel like they were serving a 1,000-year sentence," she said.

A second scenario would be to upload human minds to computers to speed up the rate at which the mind works, she wrote on her blog .https://www.businessinsider.com/prisoners-could-serve-1000-year-sentence-in-85-hours-in-the-future-2014-3

time is really illusion it's all on the mind but the way we lived and we got the whole concept is wrong.
If serving a long sentence in a short time is supposed to mean anything, then you wouldn’t need prisons or prisoners because they could serve thirty years in ten minutes. What it would have to mean is that you are speeding up the rate at which their mind works, so I fail to see the need for uploading to a computer.


If we conclude from this that time is an illusion, then it is a very powerful one. On the contrary, you might want to contend that time is operating at at least two different speeds, maybe more, making it a solid dimension. In the above example, it passes too quickly, for if we had time to think things through, that might result in some less antisocial behaviour. If prison has any use it is to give you that time, but unfortunately only with hindsight after the event. Obviously, compressing time to make one think faster is one way forward. Another way might be to reduce stress levels by slowing down the external stimuli that are occurring too fast, and increasingly so. This would have the advantage of enabling someone to exercise foresight and avoid the mistakes that would send them to prison in the first place.


Comparing the two methods, I would describe the latter as educational: like at school, you start slow and easy, gradually building up speed and complexity. Try teaching infinitesimal calculus to toddlers while promising them simple sums when they are older: the very idea is a total non-starter. Or you could describe it as prevention rather than cure. A smart system means envisaging the risks of crime without the need to allow it to happen, i.e. being one or more steps ahead, not endlessly playing catch-up. This suggests to me that rather than uploading minds, we want to carry on downloading training software capable of adjusting to individual needs. The advantages are clear. If you put the person first, that is how they are going to start putting other people first. On the other hand, to put the machine first and the people last would be to invite trouble, to encourage crime, and maybe for 'doing time' a 1,000 year sentence would be about right. More haste less speed.

Losus4
13th March 2022, 10:44
This was the subject of an excellent episode of Deep Space Nine -

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hard_Time_(episode)

Convicted of espionage, Miles O'Brien is given the memories of twenty years in prison in a matter of hours. Returning to Deep Space 9, O'Brien finds he cannot shrug the memory of his awful experience or rid himself of the guilt he feels over the death of his cellmate.

jimbobule
13th March 2022, 11:34
What a screwed up world we live in

Le Chat
13th March 2022, 13:16
This was the subject of an excellent episode of Deep Space Nine -

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hard_Time_(episode)

Convicted of espionage, Miles O'Brien is given the memories of twenty years in prison in a matter of hours. Returning to Deep Space 9, O'Brien finds he cannot shrug the memory of his awful experience or rid himself of the guilt he feels over the death of his cellmate.

Your link doesn't really go anywhere...

Mike Gorman
13th March 2022, 14:28
This was also the subject of a 'Black Mirror' episode, with John Ham (he of 'MadMen fame) as the main character, in a couple of episodes, where Time is entirely subjective and prisoners can experience being imprisoned for many decades in much less 'real time'- these are confronting fiction stories but they deal with subjective time so creatively it has its own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Christmas_(Black_Mirror)

apokalypse
13th March 2022, 16:30
i was thinking another day is possible to go off grid and change our perception of time? have different calendar and time...from what i heard ancient based time on stars, 1 month on off grid could be 3 months on mainstream...we might have stuck on current time with dates or events dates.