What are the questions you are most driven to find answers to?

[Chester]

Of all the gatherings of folks to which I have access, I can't imagine a better group of individuals I might pose the question presented in the thread title.

I will give an example of one of mine (which is quite common), and though I have a currently held 'answer' to it, I'll hold back for now with that answer.

"What is the purpose of life?"

I hope folks will contribute to this where, at some point, it may be possible to make a good list where we could start to explore answers to each one.

[norman]

Q . .

Is "spiritual" darkness a nothing (absence of 'light'), or a something ( an energetic phenomenon we ignore at out peril ) ?

[East Sun]

I assume you mean human life or all kinds of life here on Earth,
not all of life everywhere?

[ExomatrixTV]

Our connection to Source "of all that is, not what we 'think' (assume) it is" and how we are actually the ones that stand in the way connecting to Source in a profound (constructive) way ... 1000s of excuses already in place before we get to any of the straightforward answers.

Few exceptions not included of course ...

cheers,
John

[Orph]

From my view, darkness and light are the same thing. There is no separation or difference. (I could be wrong of course. I'm merely giving my viewpoint)

We shove all our unwanted crap into the darkness so we don't have to see it. We've been doing it for eons. We are the ones that are actually attacking the darkness, not the other way around. It's our own hate, greed, etc. that we "hide in the closet". The darkness didn't create the bad, nor does it want it.

People say things like they want to vanquish the dark, or in some way illuminate the dark so it no longer exists. Dark and light are the same. Don't do away with what is really the same thing as what we call "light".

The evil ones use the darkness for their own purposes and that is a different subject. The so called "darkness" is my friend, as much as the light is.

[Chester]

I assume you mean human life or all kinds of life here on Earth,
not all of life everywhere?

This is one of the things I noticed about these essential questions. That sometimes before the question can be asked, terms used in the question must be defined.

So, after I wrote the OP, I asked myself... "life, in general?"

Or, "one or more individuated 'lifetimes' as well as experiences in states such as the bardo state as well as experiences where I might be 'anchored' in other reference levels/planes of being" of a sentient, self-aware being?

Glad you picked this up.

And my thoughts have replied this way...

I can only answer from my own subjective perspective. I would never assume I have a universally correct answer. So, to answer (for myself) I am able to obtain the answer to both through answering the second one first.

(For me) the purpose of life is... to live!

So, the question I asked myself when I came to this answer was... "What is life?"

My answer to that is (currently... as all these things can change) -

Life is an unbroken, continuous observation of and participation in contrast. And from this is the implied necessity that this is done individually.

This then leads me to the understanding that "to live" alone or with others who appear to live is an important consideration and for me, it was an easy one. I do not wish to live if I must live alone.

And so, as you can see, each time there's an answer, the answer poses other questions. In the above answer, I must define "alone." For some, that may mean, "without other humans." For others that may mean, "without a living friend," such as a dog. To others it may mean simply any form of life.

So when I answer the question, "what is the purpose of life" my fuller answer is, "To live and not live alone." And then there's one more element to my answer which I will save for later.

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Q . .

Is "spiritual" darkness a nothing (absence of 'light'), or a something ( an energetic phenomenon we ignore at out peril ) ?

To this I would add... "or something else?" But I get subjective again. For me, "spiritual" darkness is "being physically alive yet experiencing no connection to my soul."

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Our connection to Source "of all that is, not what we 'think' (assume) it is" and how we are actually the ones that stand in the way connecting to Source in a profound (constructive) way ... 1000s of excuses already in place before we get to any of the straightforward answers.

Few exceptions not included of course ...

cheers,
John

This stimulates a question from me.

What is "Source?"

[ExomatrixTV]

This stimulates a question from me.

What is "Source?"


To me it is the Prime Creator that has no name we can use to do fully justice for what it really is! ... It is beyond any "belief" & "belief-systems" ... beyond any label we want to use to please our comprehension.

In other words whatever we say is most likely doomed to failure as we are way too limited to describe the un-describable ... And yet by allowing to say "we can/do not know" we might have glimpses of it anyway!

So am not pessimistic ;)

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Chester]

This stimulates a question from me.

What is "Source?"


To me it is the Prime Creator that has no name we can use to do fully justice for what it really is! ... It is beyond any "belief" & "belief-systems" ... beyond any label we want to use to please our comprehension.

In other words whatever we say is most likely doomed to failure as we are way too limited to describe the un-describable ... And yet by allowing to say "we can/do not know" we might have glimpses of it anyway!

So am not pessimistic ;)

cheers,
John

I have come to a much different view and there's no such thing as "Source" or "Prime Creator" in my current world view. Understand, I don't claim to be right or to be some "knower of the ultimate truths." But I am honest as to my views even as they shift.

Currently, I see this "thing" I am (and I assume all are) experiencing is -

"...a programmable, quantum computational information processing system." And that there's a fundamental tension which is a struggle between world views for domination... and that this dynamic continues as long as there is life to continue the struggle.

My "Holy Book" begins with the phrase - "In the beginning... there was us!." And that is the only line in the book.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"...a programmable, quantum computational information processing system."

That's most curious. All I can say is the true reality, the highest reality in all the Universe, is spiritual. It's not physical, and certainly it is not technological. You're a spiritual being, not a computer file (no matter what the Transhumanist heathens would have you believe).

For me the answer lies in CREATION.

It cannot be the totality of the purpose, because we cannot possibly know the totality of God's/Creation's plan. But in a nutshell, I 'think' that:

God is love. And God is infinite. God is the Source and origin of ALL Creation. We are a part of this Creation; we are individualized creations (manifestations) of God himself/herself etc.

We were cast as seeds into an infinite garden, destined to grow back in the direction of Source as does a flower towards the sun. We were given consciousness, and individualised for the purpose of evolving and expanding in awareness throughout a countless number of lives and experiences. Along the way we are supposed to be adding to the Creation with our own creations (we create our own realities). The journey is infinite, and potential advancement is also infinite.

It is perhaps our ultimate striving, however, to put out the same level of unconditional love that we ourselves were created with. That's the golden ticket.

[ExomatrixTV]

When (Super Advanced) Technology can create "Synthetic (Artificial) Consciousness (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-)" ... is trying to put The Prime Creator in a "fixed dream" <<< which will never happen ... it seems like a dream within a dream want to defend its own "existence" and tries to lure you in that manufactured fake reality to make it more real?

The emphasis of all of this is to sell it as a "life-changing experience" and get addicted to the fakery hijacking and/or hacking real reality which seems very pathetic to me.

cheers,
John

[Craig]

Years ago I may have had a dozen questions, now after so many rotations I guess it can all be summoned up in 2 words

Why bother?

We are placed in a small biological finite prison robbed of memory trying to think of the infinite? Now it's like a traffic jam and if I just wait long enough, the road up ahead will clear and a sense of normalcy might return, until we repeat this fiasco again which in turn leads me to the second line of my post.

[truthseek]

To quote a well-known spiritual leader:

HAPPINESS!

But the REAL question you need to consider for yourself,

What does Happiness Mean to You?

(I'm inclined to agree with that...) :sun:

[Chester]

"...a programmable, quantum computational information processing system."

That's most curious. All I can say is the true reality, the highest reality in all the Universe, is spiritual. It's not physical, and certainly it is not technological. You're a spiritual being, not a computer file (no matter what the Transhumanist heathens would have you believe).

For me the answer lies in CREATION.

It cannot be the totality of the purpose, because we cannot possibly know the totality of God's/Creation's plan. But in a nutshell, I 'think' that:

God is love. And God is infinite. God is the Source and origin of ALL Creation. We are a part of this Creation; we are individualized creations (manifestations) of God himself/herself etc.

We were cast as seeds into an infinite garden, destined to grow back in the direction of Source as does a flower towards the sun. We were given consciousness, and individualised for the purpose of evolving and expanding in awareness throughout a countless number of lives and experiences. Along the way we are supposed to be adding to the Creation with our own creations (we create our own realities). The journey is infinite, and potential advancement is also infinite.

It is perhaps our ultimate striving, however, to put out the same level of unconditional love that we ourselves were created with. That's the golden ticket.

I honor you to have your own opinion.

It seems we might better serve the rest as well as ourselves by offering our views in a manner that does not feel like impositions, yes?

[Chester]

Years ago I may have had a dozen questions, now after so many rotations I guess it can all be summoned up in 2 words

Why bother?

We are placed in a small biological finite prison robbed of memory trying to think of the infinite? Now it's like a traffic jam and if I just wait long enough, the road up ahead will clear and a sense of normalcy might return, until we repeat this fiasco again which in turn leads me to the second line of my post.

If this is the situation you find yourself experiencing (and you don't like it which, it seems from your post that you don't), have you thought about changing it? Changing this world as you see it? Striving to not be a prisoner? Preparing for the next journey into the bardo state where you are in charge of your next experience. I ask because I asked these same questions to myself. The first answer I got was another question. Who is responsible for being me being here? If not myself, then what sort of screwy reality do I find myself in?

So I had to accept responsibility for being here. And this means I am always responsible, including for my future.

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To quote a well-known spiritual leader:

HAPPINESS!

But the REAL question you need to consider for yourself,

What does Happiness Mean to You?

(I'm inclined to agree with that...) :sun:

Is this your answer to "What is the purpose of life?" If so... I love your answer!

[Gemma13]

Not so much driven by questions anymore, just more experiences and awareness of the plan to bring undeniable proof of our spiritual immortality to this realm, before technological immortality entices souls deeper into hell.

[bobme]

still have a few questions

myself. I cannot say or figure out the most important one. so for me, any way, I must answer all of them.

But in end of finding all of those answers, what is next?

[O Donna]

Question

Quest

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[ExomatrixTV]

Question

Quest

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Star Trek 5: The Final Frontier:

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[Kryztian]

What are the questions you are most driven to find answers to?

1) What is consciousness/mind/thought/awareness? How is it tied into space, time and human bodies? Are there various levels of awareness (e.g. the "subconscious", the mechanisms that prevent and allow past times to be remembered or forgotten) and how do they function? How does it function within my current incarnation and how does it transcend it?

2) Is there an entity that is manipulating the course of human events? Is being done by a secret society, extra terrestrials, or some group of humans? What power does this entity have that makes it so powerful and effective? For the record, I believe that humanity is better that all the wars, inequity, and environmental degradation we see - I think there is definitely something leading humanity astray, but it is hard to pinpoint. It is much more than names like Rockefeller, Kissinger, Gates, Fauci, Schwab, etc., but understanding those individuals might lead us a little closer to this entity.

[O Donna]

Star Trek 5: The Final Frontier:

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Spock: Perhaps "because it there" is not sufficient reason for climbing the mountain.
Kirk: I'm hardly in a position to disagree.

Spock and Kirk = Left and Right brain dialogue regarding the Quest(ion).

[Kalamos]

Is there life after physical death, and what is it like?

I like to think it's like I've heard described in "Journey of Souls" (https://www.newtoninstitute.org/publication/journey-of-the-souls/)by Michael Newton.

[shaberon]

Where do I position myself in order to do more of the good works that used to find natural outlets?

[truthseek]

The moment we stop asking questions is the moment we stop growing....

:sun:

[lizhekb]

none. none. none.

[cannawizard]

Q . .

Is "spiritual" darkness a nothing (absence of 'light'), or a something ( an energetic phenomenon we ignore at out peril ) ?

i offer not really an "answer" since that will only arise within yourself, but my own reflections/thoughts concerning your Q~

"spiritual darkness" is a phenomenon we have misunderstood since "our overall (culture/society/"yuga"/totality of all human knowledge pertaining this current timeframe/etc" have ingrained biases in-regards to our view upon "darkness"... simply misinterpreted by false pretenses/representations.. you will find what you are seeking as you go along on your journey, you are already at the entrance so-to-speak~

just sharing my thoughts on this Q

cheers

[mizo]

I'd love to know where my socks go?

I have a draw full of single socks that were a once upon a time a pair. Albeit, one of the pair, I like to believe gets fed up... (especially considering their torrid relationship to my often odorous feet) and decides to embark on a spiritual journey, thereby traversing through a spatial mini-black hole to a Utopian woolly-based sock-planet to gain a sock-like karma and further self awareness.

My underpants on the other hand just divorce me and walk out under protest.

[syrwong]

Trying to understand Time.

I remember in the 70s I bought a book on UFOs and there was the story of a man abducted on a spaceship. In a conversation with the alien abuctor, the aliean remarked " Time does not exist". I was impressed and thought that had to be a profound statement but I had no understanding of it. At that time there were very few abdctions and contactees and this statement about time only became more familiar decades after.

Nowadays we talk about timelines but I don't believe it because I think it is impossible to have branching in every possible action. There would be just too many timelines and this would make prophecizing impossible. I have some idea about its meaning when I liken it to tracks in a record. Time is forever existing. But I want to understand time better. Another seemingly possible fact is we can change the past, if we change the past, we change the present. This appears hard to grasp, but I somehow think it is to some extend true. Can someone enlighten me on these questions?

[yelik]

Is there an energetic grid trapping and manipulating human conciousness on earth and is this reptilian tech?

After death are we tricked (reptilians) and drawn to the white light where we are so overwhelmed / confused that our soul blindley agrees to a memory wipe before being sent back to earth and inserted into a newborn in a never ending cycle. Or can we program ourselves before death to simply turn away from the light and request to go back to source creator with all memories intact and recovered- whatever that means, lol

If soul recycling does occure what is the purpose - loosh energy for these entities or something else

[JackMcThorn]

...and this would make prophecizing impossible. I have some idea about its meaning when I liken it to tracks in a record. Time is forever existing. But I want to understand time better. Another seemingly possible fact is we can change the past, if we change the past, we change the present. This appears hard to grasp, but I somehow think it is to some extend true. Can someone enlighten me on these questions?

Prophesying is basically a game of chance, which is 5o%. I mean this in a most serious way, as if someone who forecasts does so in a semi-professional manner at the very least. With a chance of being correct 5o% of the time, the chance of being incorrect is the same. Many renowned predictors, even the likes of Nostradamus were only correct about half of the time. Forecasting also is conducted in business often times with sales professionals forecasting sales generated for, say the next 3o-9o day increments. These types of forecasting are also subject to chance, because even if a client indicates a pending sale say in 3o days, something could happen on the buyer's end that is out of their control and delay or even cancel the sale. Then the sales forecast is really rubbish or potentially overly optimistic or even conservative depending on the personality. Consider weather forecasting and it's idiosyncrasies. A general forecast is generally in the ballpark for about 3 days into the future, even with all the test equipment and experience, weather forecasters have at their disposal.

My comprehension of the past, present, and future is a little different from your statement. I understand that I cannot change the past unless I change the present. All of our decisions are made in the present, the past then therefore fixed until the new past is formed from the present. I understand I can influence the future, but not necessarily create the exact future I might be wishing for.

Good decisions in the present = a better past and a better future. Not everything is derived from decisions, but this is the area we have control over. The aspects out of our control will indeed be a factor as well and should be taken into consideration, at the very least: something out of our control could happen. How do you respond to 'those factors out of your control' says something about your decision-making abilities.

This might not be the answer, but it is how I have developed my thinking processes regarding your questions.

[Merkaba360]

What is the purpose of life? Really?

Seriously people. I would think we all know here that is isn't really a good question. Its like asking 100 questions in 1 as its so vague.

the best answer is then must respond to the generality. The purpose of life is to experience (ALL). Just as someone mentioned, to explore infinite possibility. From there, you could talk about loads of smaller purposes we make up, but it all comes down to a desire to experience.

Someone once told me the purpose is to procreate. Yea, but for what? lol Obviously to experience, procreation is just the means for that.

There are much much more interesting questions.

1. Is memory limited like our brain? Or is that the illusion? But how could the source have infinite memory potential. All manifested theatres that get played out are unique, and would just keep accumulating more and more data that would get lost in a sea of information. The idea of being saved could be very literal. Those nasties that are opposite to life, they might face deletion eventually as they cut themselves off from truth/reality. But even the saved ones approaches infinity.

2.I had an experience EXACTLY like windows operating system. I saw a reality form in front of me. I could shift between the 2 realities by pulling either one to the forefront while the other was background. The difference was that it was 3D , not 2D like windows. I couldnt focus on both. Is this limited focus a human limitation or is it universal. In other words, Is it possible to experience a million events at once, or the whole universe? Someone said that in higher dimensions we experience much more at once but we dont fully experience details like we do here. So, this life is a way to sort of slow down and deeply experience a focused part of reality. So, then is this sort of a natural law on the limit of resolution of experience? A law the us and source must accept? Interesting to ponder.

3. Sometimes I have this deep feeling of nostalgia combined with love. Like where you really go into a memory and miss it so much and feel this intense heart energy that starts getting close to unbearable. From some psychedelic experiences , I know that it has to do with the fact that death gives us our true appreciation for life. Its like you find love within death. My question is how deep does that feeling go. It seems like I get to the point of uncomfortability. Like, there just is no recourse for this yearning nostalgia of what is forever gone. Or is it part of my ignorance that isnt able to reach a deeper point of clarity. I'm sure you all know what im talking about. My feeling is that it is because it is a paradox of opposite feelings of sadness/miss/yearning and love. That balance is what source is and that experience is a way to really move toward source, but being a flawed human, I just can't handle going to far. Its a very complex feeling experience and bewildering.

4. The universe is set up to experience all of the journeys on all levels, but it seems that it would be designed to lead up to some kind of really cool wonderous surprise. Some may imagine some kind of nirvana where they feel total bliss but really cant see or do anything in such a blurred out state. Kinda like sex. Is that the ultimate state of bliss, that is based off of feeling. Or are we looking for a more complete experience of all levels at once. Like being liberated in the body. So, like half in the body and half beyond. That brings much more interesting possibilities than just soaking in blissful immaterial realms. Such a person is feeling blissful but also enjoying a show and witnessing how that radiant energy and power massively effects everyone around. Or maybe its a similar type of liberated perfect balance life in some kind of weird astral realm more exciting and fast moving than earth. It makes me sad that I can't achieve this. Im a mercurial person and comedy is a big part of my life. highly evolved beings Ive seen are funny and joyful, but none seem like they were super funny before awakening. Honestly, this is a dream of mine. To see a liberated being who was extremely funny before liberation. It would bring me a lot of joy to see how funny I could be with the power of now/presence. You see what i mean. Liberated beings are obvious all different. But to see one who was born with a talent for humor and charm would be a real fricken treat to behold.

[Patient]

Will we ever have our questions answered? ;)

[Wind]

Ever since childhood I have asked the question "why" and after reaching the age of able to think more profoundly I wanted to understand things and life fully. Materialist science hasn't fully satisfied me with it's answers even though though true science is about finding out the truth. Science doesn't like to get philosophical and answer why, it only says how (as it assumes) things to evolve mechanistically.

What I wanted to know was the Truth meaning why do we exist and who and what I am, why. Why does everyone perceive the world from the perspective of "I"? No two people see the world exactly in the same way even if they were conjoined twins and that's because they have their own individual consciousness or soul. Have humans have been alone? What are the ancient mysteries, just nonsencical tales?

I am glad I got to realize some profound answers which go beyond belief as it's experiental knowledge, I value such beyond belief. I don't believe in the Creator, I know that the Creator is everything and is Love. More than that I have realized that truly understanding God is impossible for us humans because we try to conceptually imagine that which can't be named or imagined. Yet perhaps love, light and bliss would come close even if they're just mere simple words. I wish to understand the Creator better and get closer to that love and light.

And what's the purpose of life? To live! To experience, to evolve and grow as a soul. It's so simple, but people make it out to be so complicated. I am not a human being, I am soul having a human experience in this human male body and it's what I have for now.

Life has the value you give it. You can see it as meaningless or you can see the sacredness and inter-relatedness in everything.

[Kryztian]

Will we ever have our questions answered? ;)

Many of them yes.

But never that particular one. :sun:

[Chester]

still have a few questions

myself. I cannot say or figure out the most important one. so for me, any way, I must answer all of them.

But in end of finding all of those answers, what is next?

New questions arise (is my guess).

¤=[Post Update]=¤


The moment we stop asking questions is the moment we stop growing....

:sun:

Twice now I love your answer and/or comment!

[Chester]

I'd love to know where my socks go?

I have a draw full of single socks that were a once upon a time a pair. Albeit, one of the pair, I like to believe gets fed up... (especially considering their torrid relationship to my often odorous feet) and decides to embark on a spiritual journey, thereby traversing through a spatial mini-black hole to a Utopian woolly-based sock-planet to gain a sock-like karma and further self awareness.

My underpants on the other hand just divorce me and walk out under protest.

Most are to be found (one day) within a shirt or some slacks you hung up or folded when the sock, long ago, clung to it via static electricity created in your dryer. Any more questions?

[Chester]

Will we ever have our questions answered? ;)

I hope not all and I hope each never fully.

For me, the purpose of life is...to live. But in saying this, an astute observer would ask. "What is it then to live?" And I would respond that I am only capable of answering that for myself as each other would likely have their own answer unique to themselves.

For me, "to live" is to have the freedom and creative mind to explore (my) imagination and wonderment. And since part of my ethos is to take full 100% personal responsibility for all my words and actions (as well as the thoughts I choose to own and how I allow my motions to color all three, thoughts words and deeds), then I do so with all others (indeed, all life) in heart and mind.

The key here is to have the freedom to do so. Something that seems more and more disappearing around this strange planet these days.

[East Sun]

Buy about six pair of same color socks.

[Patient]

Will we ever have our questions answered? ;)

I hope not all and I hope each never fully.

For me, the purpose of life is...to live. But in saying this, an astute observer would ask. "What is it then to live?" And I would respond that I am only capable of answering that for myself as each other would likely have their own answer unique to themselves.

For me, "to live" is to have the freedom and creative mind to explore (my) imagination and wonderment. And since part of my ethos is to take full 100% personal responsibility for all my words and actions (as well as the thoughts I choose to own and how I allow my motions to color all three, thoughts words and deeds), then I do so with all others (indeed, all life) in heart and mind.

The key here is to have the freedom to do so. Something that seems more and more disappearing around this strange planet these days.

I wonder ... (yes, another question without a solid answer)

I wonder if TPTB one day becomes successful in their efforts to take away freedoms, might actually be there undoing?

As freedom of movement and public speaking/writing is taken away, more people will explore their minds and instead of working outward, the masses will work on their minds. This could lead to ....well, almost anything perhaps?


My question of having our questions answered is referring to the big picture that many people in this thread are taking bites at.

I can't recall where or when, but it was set into my mind that when we pass on we will then be told the truth of things and receive the answers to our questions.

I had a remarkable experience when a relative was just in the process of leaving their life here on Earth - their communication to me was life changing as they warned me of a coming danger to me - although they said that they were not allowed to tell me what was going to happen, only that I would be Ok.

So, my expectations of knowing things once we pass on from here is based on a real experience. Yet, of course I still wonder if it will occur. Will it be the same for all of us? I don't know - we might be able to know things beyond our circle of attention but it might not mean a lot to us - but of course we could have been affected by something on the other side of the world without knowing it.

As I see that as my big question, I am not driven to know because regardless of the information I learn, I will not know the truth of it until the time comes. And of course, I am Patient.

My personal experiences have created so many questions that if I was really driven to find the answers for them I would hardly have time to eat, sleep or even write down all the thoughts and questions that arise.

If this thread slows, I will bring in more questions to add to people's thoughts. :sun::heart:

[Chester]

If this thread slows, I will bring in more questions to add to people's thoughts. :sun::heart:

I have a good thirty or so and I may drop one or two here or there.

[Patient]

Ever since childhood I have asked the question "why" and after reaching the age of able to think more profoundly I wanted to understand things and life fully. Materialist science hasn't fully satisfied me with it's answers even though though true science is about finding out the truth. Science doesn't like to get philosophical and answer why, it only says how (as it assumes) things to evolve mechanistically.

What I wanted to know was the Truth meaning why do we exist and who and what I am, why. Why does everyone perceive the world from the perspective of "I"? No two people see the world exactly in the same way even if they were conjoined twins and that's because they have their own individual consciousness or soul. Have humans have been alone? What are the ancient mysteries, just nonsencical tales?

I am glad I got to realize some profound answers which go beyond belief as it's experiental knowledge, I value such beyond belief. I don't believe in the Creator, I know that the Creator is everything and is Love. More than that I have realized that truly understanding God is impossible for us humans because we try to conceptually imagine that which can't be named or imagined. Yet perhaps love, light and bliss would come close even if they're just mere simple words. I wish to understand the Creator better and get closer to that love and light.

And what's the purpose of life? To live! To experience, to evolve and grow as a soul. It's so simple, but people make it out to be so complicated. I am not a human being, I am soul having a human experience in this human male body and it's what I have for now.

Life has the value you give it. You can see it as meaningless or you can see the sacredness and inter-relatedness in everything.

As deep and wonderful your post is, I got stuck thinking about being a little kid and learning to ask the question "why". :)

I think every child enjoys that time when they realize that asking "why" will allow them to continually ask "why" to see the length of an adults patience. Lol!

[Gemma13]

Ah the question of time...

Here's an interesting- food for thought - short article on the shifting paradigms in science re Time.  Written by a 30-something with a great mind, imo.

A few snippets.


Up until now, we’ve considered time as fundamental in our existence. Yet, recent findings literally turn this idea on its head.
...
Along the way, I discussed a popular idea some theoretical physicists believe — that time is an illusion. And, they have some pretty strong arguments.
...
On the surface, the existence of time appears obvious. After all, humans divided it into seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, and years. Yet, all of that is just various measurements of the planet’s rotation around the Sun. For instance, day on Jupiter is a different length than a day on Earth.

Time is constant, but it’s also relative. Our ability to measure it depends entirely on our location and access to the outside world. Check out this article about what happened to a guy’s sense of time after staying in a cave without clocks or sunlight for 40 days.
...
Rovelli argues that time is an illusion. In part two of his book, he proposes that instead of assuming particles and fields are the components of the world, perhaps the actual constituents driving reality are the events themselves.
...
[Rovelli] We assume particles collide because space and time feel eternal and unmoving, allowing for events to occur. Yet, is it possible we have it backward? Perhaps it is events that create space and time.
...
A growing number of physicists, working in different areas of the discipline with different approaches, are increasingly converging on a profound idea: space — and perhaps even time — is not fundamental. Instead, space and time may be ​emergent​: they could arise from the structure and behavior of more essential components of nature.
...
Consider this, let’s pretend the physicists are correct, that spacetime emerges from an accumulation of theoretical particles known as infatons. The result of which is what we experience as a seeming smooth reality. Then isn’t that sorta like Rovelli’s concept — that an accumulation of moments create what we experience as time? Which is still technically emergent, just in a different way than loop gravity theory.

https://link.medium.com/7ijtG11Bqob

1503144769760882688

[Johnnycomelately]

Ah the question of time...

Here's an interesting- food for thought - short article on the shifting paradigms in science re Time.  Written by a 30-something with a great mind, imo.

A few snippets.


Up until now, we’ve considered time as fundamental in our existence. Yet, recent findings literally turn this idea on its head.
...
Along the way, I discussed a popular idea some theoretical physicists believe — that time is an illusion. And, they have some pretty strong arguments.
...
On the surface, the existence of time appears obvious. After all, humans divided it into seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, and years. Yet, all of that is just various measurements of the planet’s rotation around the Sun. For instance, day on Jupiter is a different length than a day on Earth.

Time is constant, but it’s also relative. Our ability to measure it depends entirely on our location and access to the outside world. Check out this article about what happened to a guy’s sense of time after staying in a cave without clocks or sunlight for 40 days.
...
Rovelli argues that time is an illusion. In part two of his book, he proposes that instead of assuming particles and fields are the components of the world, perhaps the actual constituents driving reality are the events themselves.
...
[Rovelli] We assume particles collide because space and time feel eternal and unmoving, allowing for events to occur. Yet, is it possible we have it backward? Perhaps it is events that create space and time.
...
A growing number of physicists, working in different areas of the discipline with different approaches, are increasingly converging on a profound idea: space — and perhaps even time — is not fundamental. Instead, space and time may be ​emergent​: they could arise from the structure and behavior of more essential components of nature.
...
Consider this, let’s pretend the physicists are correct, that spacetime emerges from an accumulation of theoretical particles known as infatons. The result of which is what we experience as a seeming smooth reality. Then isn’t that sorta like Rovelli’s concept — that an accumulation of moments create what we experience as time? Which is still technically emergent, just in a different way than loop gravity theory.



Carlo Rovelli is an interesting thinker and communicator. Very engaging, never cocky, full of energy. He sells his ideas better than most Boffins. Last I heard, he and his wife were living in Canada, beautiful property, riding out the lockdowns.


Edit, here’s him talking about physics, using time as his fulcrum.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGHG0Jahzc

[Chester]

Ah the question of time...

Here's an interesting- food for thought - short article on the shifting paradigms in science re Time.  Written by a 30-something with a great mind, imo.

A few snippets.


Up until now, we’ve considered time as fundamental in our existence. Yet, recent findings literally turn this idea on its head.
...
Along the way, I discussed a popular idea some theoretical physicists believe — that time is an illusion. And, they have some pretty strong arguments.
...
On the surface, the existence of time appears obvious. After all, humans divided it into seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, and years. Yet, all of that is just various measurements of the planet’s rotation around the Sun. For instance, day on Jupiter is a different length than a day on Earth.

Time is constant, but it’s also relative. Our ability to measure it depends entirely on our location and access to the outside world. Check out this article about what happened to a guy’s sense of time after staying in a cave without clocks or sunlight for 40 days.
...
Rovelli argues that time is an illusion. In part two of his book, he proposes that instead of assuming particles and fields are the components of the world, perhaps the actual constituents driving reality are the events themselves.
...
[Rovelli] We assume particles collide because space and time feel eternal and unmoving, allowing for events to occur. Yet, is it possible we have it backward? Perhaps it is events that create space and time.
...
A growing number of physicists, working in different areas of the discipline with different approaches, are increasingly converging on a profound idea: space — and perhaps even time — is not fundamental. Instead, space and time may be ​emergent​: they could arise from the structure and behavior of more essential components of nature.
...
Consider this, let’s pretend the physicists are correct, that spacetime emerges from an accumulation of theoretical particles known as infatons. The result of which is what we experience as a seeming smooth reality. Then isn’t that sorta like Rovelli’s concept — that an accumulation of moments create what we experience as time? Which is still technically emergent, just in a different way than loop gravity theory.

https://link.medium.com/7ijtG11Bqob

1503144769760882688

Questions about time, especially "the philosophy of time" and "time travel" has been the most difficult thing for me to explore to my satisfaction.

[O Donna]

Question(s) are recursive by de-fault.

An echo as big as the space it's in.

[Merkaba360]

Ah the question of time...

Here's an interesting- food for thought - short article on the shifting paradigms in science re Time.  Written by a 30-something with a great mind, imo.

A few snippets.
[QUOTE]
Up until now, we’ve considered time as fundamental in our existence. Yet, recent findings literally turn this idea on its head.
...
Along the way, I discussed a popular idea some theoretical physicists believe — that time is an illusion. And, they have some pretty strong arguments.
...
On the surface, the existence of time appears obvious. After all, humans divided it into seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, and years. Yet, all of that is just various measurements of the planet’s rotation around the Sun. For instance, day on Jupiter is a different length than a day on Earth.

Time is constant, but it’s also relative. Our ability to measure it depends entirely on our location and access to the outside world. Check out this article about what happened to a guy’s sense of time after staying in a cave without clocks or sunlight for 40 days.
...
Rovelli argues that time is an illusion. In part two of his book, he proposes that instead of assuming particles and fields are the components of the world, perhaps the actual constituents driving reality are the events themselves.
...
[Rovelli] We assume particles collide because space and time feel eternal and unmoving, allowing for events to occur. Yet, is it possible we have it backward? Perhaps it is events that create space and time.
...
A growing number of physicists, working in different areas of the discipline with different approaches, are increasingly converging on a profound idea: space — and perhaps even time — is not fundamental. Instead, space and time may be ​emergent​: they could arise from the structure and behavior of more essential components of nature.
...
Consider this, let’s pretend the physicists are correct, that spacetime emerges from an accumulation of theoretical particles known as infatons. The result of which is what we experience as a seeming smooth reality. Then isn’t that sorta like Rovelli’s concept — that an accumulation of moments create what we experience as time? Which is still technically emergent, just in a different way than loop gravity theory.


Space is about form and time about movement. Events dont create space and time and space and time dont create events, because they are the same thing. I don't find their lines of thought very compelling.

Yes, time is an illusion in a way, but you have to experience presence/stillness to really understand. Otherwise, its hard to interpret what is meant by "illusion."

The seconds/ticks on the clock are just adding a beat to the movement of life that we observe. It is convenient and useful to create that scale for many things. Like alignment, so we both arrive at the meeting simultaneously. Then we can more easily walk to the beat of the same drummer :) It helps in ordering the movements of life as well as study them.

Obviously the ticks/seconds on the clock are arbitrary and have no reality.

None of these things are capturing the essence of the illusion. Feeling helps to prop up the illusion. Our feeling throughout the day changes. I feel tired, I feel energetic for example. On mushrooms I entered a perfectly balanced state. It became like 5am and the sun was soon to rise. That normal feeling of tiredness and others associated with that time of the day vanished. There was just presence and stillness. Me, the observer was free of the world of change. It was then clear that there were just movements/changes in the light show happening around me - the unmoved stillness at the eye of the storm.

So, the illusion is that this early morning is different from noon or evening. They all look and feel different. Its just like changing the pixels on your screen. That is all their is. So, if you call time, the rate of change of the pixels, then that is essentially what time is. But, instead of being unbiased and just seeing them as changing pixels, we get sucked into what those patterns mean and how they feel. And that is where we start adding our own illusory ideas.

there are no such thing as particles. That would mean there is separation. They are vortices creating concentrations and differences of pressure. So, yes that can all add up to particles in the macro world. But, we can't keep that view in the quantum. It is misleading, and I wouldn't advise trying to understand time thru particles, if one is under the illusion of particles. lol

[pine boy]

Why, as a species do we always resort to war?
It's uncomfortable and disturbing but everything seems to be a conflict. I mean we either do or do not but why we gotta fight about it?

[cannawizard]

are we at war with ourselves, each other, and the world around us because this is just nature/reality just acting accordingly; or is this state of humanity just part of the journey concerning the cycles? would you change the hurt and suffering of the current moment? or continue.. knowing the end was merely just another beginning, and what had to happen was part of the process all along?

[East Sun]

Time exists only in our imagination. It was thought up in order
to control us There is only daylight and darkness.

If I am understanding you correctly,
Interactions can not cause space or time.

Space is. Time is not imho.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

What is the best method for me to establish clear two way communication with pure, positive, wise, loving energy? A source I can trust.

[Chester]

What is the best method for me to establish clear two way communication with pure, positive, wise, loving energy? A source I can trust.

Thank you, Ron... that is a GREAT question, IMO.

I asked that same question and when I did, with true heart, I met my Daemon (...that had been knocking on my door for decades this lifetime).

[Johnnycomelately]

What is the best method for me to establish clear two way communication with pure, positive, wise, loving energy? A source I can trust.

Sir, just become it, and you will live there. Your stated will to experience comms with ‘the best’, opens you to nefarious influence, unless you first can walk that walk. In the meantime, better to minimize your ego-radiations. Just sayin’, and cheers.

[Harmony]

What is the best method for me to establish clear two way communication with pure, positive, wise, loving energy? A source I can trust.

For me, I have found that finding that still quiet place within, then open your heart to to what makes you feel the most loving flow of energy, and just stay with that for as long as you can. Try not to think of any agenda of why you are feeling love. Practicing that seems to make that pathway stronger and easier to find with regular practice.

Sometimes insights come, sometimes it is just soothing. When it feels right the loving energy can be sent out with the breath with thoughts of beauty and joy to other places and offered to heal, but never forced in anynway.

[lizhekb]

Trying to understand Time.

I remember in the 70s I bought a book on UFOs and there was the story of a man abducted on a spaceship. In a conversation with the alien abuctor, the aliean remarked " Time does not exist". I was impressed and thought that had to be a profound statement but I had no understanding of it. At that time there were very few abdctions and contactees and this statement about time only became more familiar decades after.

Nowadays we talk about timelines but I don't believe it because I think it is impossible to have branching in every possible action. There would be just too many timelines and this would make prophecizing impossible. I have some idea about its meaning when I liken it to tracks in a record. Time is forever existing. But I want to understand time better. Another seemingly possible fact is we can change the past, if we change the past, we change the present. This appears hard to grasp, but I somehow think it is to some extend true. Can someone enlighten me on these questions?

Time is sort of illusion.

Most of people cannot change the present in their hands. Changing the past is only in sci-fi.

Sometime the answer will present itself if we just look at the other direction.

Sometime it is not about the most possible way, it is the about the meaningful way.

[Chester]

Just a comment based on an observation - Interesting how this thread (including some of my own contributions) has evolved to become more about proposed answers and, to my dismay, definitive pronouncements.

This is why I strive to share my own views in ways where they are received as ideas, perhaps suggestions of possibility or simply, my opinion. I don't always do so even to my own satisfaction. But I continue to strive so as not to come across as some "knower of all things" (which implies, "if you don't share my view, you don't know squat").

I long for conversations where the participants explore possibility, wonderment in ways that don't shut down the conversations. I may have found the wrong planet. Oh, well.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

and, to my dismay, definitive pronouncements.

Sorry Chester, I don't know what else to tell you. There's nothing more definitive than spiritual reality. That's not an opinion, or a guess, it is as you would say a definitive pronouncement. Completely. When you've seen and experienced the absolute reality of it first hand (I have), then you just know, and everything else is tossed out the window. I definitely get it that most people haven't seen and don't know, so there lies the conundrum. How do you communicate this reality?

There are so many case studies of, for example, near death experiences and out of body experiences. That's a fine place to begin one's exploration of the 'greater reality'. You can find a lot of these stories in multiple threads e.g. here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117038-Remarkable-Tales-From-Beyond), or here (read this amazing story) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115372-Contact-from-the-Great-Beyond-----with-physical-evidence), and here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52121-The-Higher-Self-and-transcendent-experience-including-OBEs), where people report virtually identical recollections of existence beyond the veil. See Dr Michael Newton's books, or Raymond Moody's. They spent a lifetime vigorously investigating life after death.

Here's a good example of one, called 'Proof of Heaven', which is the experience of a neurosurgeon, and a life long sceptic. The real kicker comes at the end, so watch to the end.

6JJ8LJ8HNsY

Believe these or don't believe them I make no judgment, it's entirely up to you. But when you stand back, and see all these cases stack up (decades and decades of them reported by thousands and thousands of people from different cultures all over the world), it's impossible for even the most sceptical mind to ignore.

[mojo]

The OP question can make a person ponder. It would have to be about a contact experience from 2009 to 2017. But left some unanswered questions and was ready and willing to go as deep as they would allow yet they did not go as far. And by this time in the contact there was trust and felt safe and knew they existed. Today still hope to get answers and if they will return or if I could go explore with them and wonder if I did something wrong to not get those answers.

[Mari]

What is the best method for me to establish clear two way communication with pure, positive, wise, loving energy? A source I can trust.


Hi Ron, maybe the answer to that is to try to be a pure, wise and loving energy yourself, as often as you can. As we give out energetically, we attract back in abundance. If your energy signature (vibration) is wise, loving and positive, then you will quickly attract a person or a beautiful event, that mirrors those qualities.

[Chester]

and, to my dismay, definitive pronouncements.

Sorry Chester, I don't know what else to tell you. There's nothing more definitive than spiritual reality. That's not an opinion, or a guess, it is as you would say a definitive pronouncement. Completely. When you've seen and experienced the absolute reality of it first hand (I have), then you just know, and everything else is tossed out the window. I definitely get it that most people haven't seen and don't know, so there lies the conundrum. How do you communicate this reality?

There are so many case studies of, for example, near death experiences and out of body experiences. That's a fine place to begin one's exploration of the 'greater reality'. You can find a lot of these stories in multiple threads e.g. here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117038-Remarkable-Tales-From-Beyond), or here (read this amazing story) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115372-Contact-from-the-Great-Beyond-----with-physical-evidence), and here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52121-The-Higher-Self-and-transcendent-experience-including-OBEs), where people report virtually identical recollections of existence beyond the veil. See Dr Michael Newton's books, or Raymond Moody's. They spent a lifetime vigorously investigating life after death.

Here's a good example of one, called 'Proof of Heaven', which is the experience of a neurosurgeon, and a life long sceptic. The real kicker comes at the end, so watch to the end.

6JJ8LJ8HNsY

Believe these or don't believe them I make no judgment, it's entirely up to you. But when you stand back, and see all these cases stack up (decades and decades of them reported by thousands and thousands of people from different cultures all over the world), it's impossible for even the most sceptical mind to ignore.

So where then in 'your reality' fit all the experiences experienced by others that do not fall within the paradigm you are insinuating? Are those people just delusional?

Or, could they be experiencing an aspect of reality you have yet to experience or all the testimonies you have listened to haven't described?

[TEOTWAIKI]

My question is:

Why is the black magic starting to fail?

IMHO the black magic IS failing for some reason. But why?

The cracks are appearing very rapidly and my favorite euphunism is the "MASKS ARE COMING OFF!"

I saw Trudeau drop his mask and Zelensky and now many others, but why now and why all at once?

It is literally blowing my mind how quickly secrets which were buried for decades are being revealed.

Pooooffff!!

It's all a production, complete with actors, comedians, stage hand, roadies, you name it, it's there.

So why did the magic fail?
I saw my niece today and she said something which absolutely floored me. (This is the little, goofy red-haired kid that was rolling down a grassy hill the first time I met her and now years later...)

She said that because people were quarantined for two years, they were quiet and alone more, and made closer contact with their guiding spirits; hence now they have better discernment.

This hit me as especially profound and I wanted to share it.

Perhaps this is a silent, completely unexpected blow-back that is happening to expose the sorcerers for what they really are.

[cannawizard]

Time exists only in our imagination. It was thought up in order
to control us There is only daylight and darkness.

If I am understanding you correctly,
Interactions can not cause space or time.

Space is. Time is not imho.

if "time" exists only in our "imaginations", then one could state the same with "space", since both could also reside as part of the mind/"thoughts"---imagination.
(you see we manifest within "now"--this very moment "(spatial cognizance)", this thing some of us call a "dream", others "matrix" and others "reality, and on and on--- have time and space, that are underlying principles/"basis" you have to adhere to since you are here, ..unless you are trying to imply something else entirely in-regards to time and space)

to say there is only something, like daylight and darkness, are you not limiting yourself to only adhere to such constructs, why put such barriers to self if this is all imagined/ or parts of it is?

how does one define space and time at this current junction, when humanity is constantly moving forward, ever changing in our understanding/grasp/perception of such concepts, would it not be too premature to state anything at this moment of man's progression as definite certainties/proofs instead of just recognition of steps to the eventuality of static "answers"~

(thank you for this interaction, i appreciate your ideas, its always good to read someone else's take on things of this reality)

--this video clip from a movie is another take on the construct/subject of "time"-- its just a movie clip, not a promotion of the forces hidden behind the esoteric/occult.. :P
DIal4k5kR3k


:sun:

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

So where then in 'your reality' fit all the experiences experienced by others that do not fall within the paradigm you are insinuating? Are those people just delusional?


Please describe them, as I'm not aware of the experiences you're referring to.

[East Sun]

Why, as a species do we always resort to war?
It's uncomfortable and disturbing but everything seems to be a conflict. I mean we either do or do not but why we gotta fight about it?

I believe it's because we are controlled by the greedy who make a lot of $$
out of war, who in turn are controlled by a higher form of being.

[East Sun]

We can see space all around us but not time. Just had a thought, "the only indication of time
that is ultimate is, everything changes always, we get older, but that could happen without time."

Never thought about this very much, but time, maybe, had no beginning and will never end
even when we do, so it could be said to be a constant in existence.

[Chester]

So where then in 'your reality' fit all the experiences experienced by others that do not fall within the paradigm you are insinuating? Are those people just delusional?


Please describe them, as I'm not aware of the experiences you're referring to.

Read, for example, some Philip K. Dick for a plethora of examples.

[Bubu]

What is the best method for me to establish clear two way communication with pure, positive, wise, loving energy? A source I can trust.


Hi Ron, maybe the answer to that is to try to be a pure, wise and loving energy yourself, as often as you can. As we give out energetically, we attract back in abundance. If your energy signature (vibration) is wise, loving and positive, then you will quickly attract a person or a beautiful event, that mirrors those qualities.

beautful answer. One can only recieve/hear vibes that he is attuned to. Positive loving energy can only be heard by loving and posititve people. No different than radio waves or electromagnetic recievers or even our ear drums. It only recieve vibes that its designed to. try to show love to a loving person and he will reciprocate almost instantly. Send positive and loving energy and you will recieve/hear the same very clearly.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Read, for example, some Philip K. Dick for a plethora of examples.

He was neither a mystic, a philosopher, or even a scientist. Philip K. Dick was a science fiction writer. The paradigms and theories he presents in his science fiction (mightily drugged fuelled, he was a self-professed amphetamine addict) are not a good foundation on which to build one's view of reality. It is in fact probably the worst. Ask any ex-Scientologist.

[Chester]

Read, for example, some Philip K. Dick for a plethora of examples.

He was neither a mystic, a philosopher, or even a scientist. Philip K. Dick was a science fiction writer. The paradigms and theories he presents in his science fiction (mightily drugged fuelled, he was a self-professed amphetamine addict) are not a good foundation on which to build one's view of reality. It is in fact probably the worst. Ask any ex-Scientologist.

Then smoke this... https://astediscovery.com/COVID/DEPOPULATION.htm

...and get back to me in 2026.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Then smoke this... https://astediscovery.com/COVID/DEPOPULATION.htm

...and get back to me in 2026.

I thought we were talking about experiences. Nothing here has been experientially observed. It's a depopulation forecast. I fail to see how this has any bearing on anything under discussion, specifically the reality of spiritual truth.

[Chester]

Then smoke this... https://astediscovery.com/COVID/DEPOPULATION.htm

...and get back to me in 2026.

I thought we were talking about experiences. Nothing here has been experientially observed. It's a depopulation forecast. I fail to see how this has any bearing on anything under discussion, specifically the reality of spiritual truth.

The thread is entitled "What are the questions you are most driven to find answers to?"

Is "your version" of what you determine to be "spiritual truth" (and thus, all-encompassing reality) the only question anyone else should explore? Should I complain to mods that my thread is being derailed by a mod who wishes to impose their version of what they believe to be "spiritual truth" upon the rest of us?

Is your "spiritual truth" sanctioned by Project Avalon? I doubt it, but I have learned not to assume.

Seriously... how are others here able to explore their potential truths when an authority of the forum is imposing theirs as the only possible and all-encompassing truth? Is this what Bill wants this forum to become?

[Mark]

For me, the question is, who are we, as Terran Humanity? What is our greatest destiny and how can we achieve it, together?

[Harmony]

For me, the question is, who are we, as Terran Humanity? What is our greatest destiny and how can we achieve it, together?

For me I see that as humans we are learning to bring our spiritual realisations into how we make choices to improve the way we see the world as a whole and how we manage our relationship with all life forms on the planet. It seems to really matter for the health of the whole that we must love ourselves and each other too.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Is "your version" of what you determine to be "spiritual truth" (and thus, all-encompassing reality) the only question anyone else should explore?

You do realise that regarding the nature of reality this is the prevailing conclusion. I'm not "imposing" that on anyone. But you asked the question. You asked it in the opening post: "what's the purpose of life?" You make it clear that you don't know and that you're searching for truth and for meaning, which is great. So I responded. I gave an answer. That's what one does with a question. I answered by stating that the underlying reality is fundamentally spiritual.

I honestly didn't think that would be controversial. To address your concern, No, that position is not sanctioned by Project Avalon, but it is generally implied in the subtitle: "where science meets spirituality". Spiritual themes are the bulk of matter on this forum, and really, the majority of Avalon members are somewhere on that same page, that a Prime Creator or a spiritual force greater than they are exists. I'm sorry that my making a defined pronouncement about that offends you. I seriously don't know why, on a spiritual forum.

Honestly, if you don't buy into it, that's fine. Take it or leave it. No harm, no foul. I had simply hoped you would take it into consideration (in a thread where you're searching for answers) - that's all, to explore this subject and ask further questions. Because questions, they're almost infinite. Believe me, I still have a ton of them. We all do!

[Mark]

For me I see that as humans we are learning to bring our spiritual realisations into how we make choices to improve the way we see the world as a whole and how we manage our relationship with all life forms on the planet. It seems to really matter for the health of the whole that we must love ourselves and each other too.

So feeling this. I feel that, with communications technology being what it is these days, we are more connected now than we've probably ever been as a global society with a population of over 8 billion. Because that connection is nigh instantaneous, things that happen on the other side of the world from wherever we are, are known faster than they've ever been. This makes it possible for us to experience events almost simultaneously, which can heighten our emotional connectivity and also increase the amounts of energy around certain events as well. These events can be positive and negative, we could see emotional energetic spikes or heart coherence levels synching over vast regions of the planet.

One thing that I've found that hate does, is guarantee a succeeding rise in love energy. We have seen, in our lives, that when we all make decisions together, it shifts the collective thought process around ideas and the way it was before simply fades into history. It was that way as recently as yesterday, but it is no longer that way today.

[Angels1981]

What baffles me is this...
Where does the bible and church fit into all of the aliens, targeted individuals and fighting the government? because my experiences I've gone through defy the bible. sorry...

[Harmony]

For me I see that as humans we are learning to bring our spiritual realisations into how we make choices to improve the way we see the world as a whole and how we manage our relationship with all life forms on the planet. It seems to really matter for the health of the whole that we must love ourselves and each other too.

So feeling this. I feel that, with communications technology being what it is these days, we are more connected now than we've probably ever been as a global society with a population of over 8 billion. Because that connection is nigh instantaneous, things that happen on the other side of the world from wherever we are, are known faster than they've ever been. This makes it possible for us to experience events almost simultaneously, which can heighten our emotional connectivity and also increase the amounts of energy around certain events as well. These events can be positive and negative, we could see emotional energetic spikes or heart coherence levels synching over vast regions of the planet.

One thing that I've found that hate does, is guarantee a succeeding rise in love energy. We have seen, in our lives, that when we all make decisions together, it shifts the collective thought process around ideas and the way it was before simply fades into history. It was that way as recently as yesterday, but it is no longer that way today.


What you have written is very interesting. I have to go to town now for an appointment and I will reply a bit later :flower:

[Harmony]

For me I see that as humans we are learning to bring our spiritual realisations into how we make choices to improve the way we see the world as a whole and how we manage our relationship with all life forms on the planet. It seems to really matter for the health of the whole that we must love ourselves and each other too.

So feeling this. I feel that, with communications technology being what it is these days, we are more connected now than we've probably ever been as a global society with a population of over 8 billion. Because that connection is nigh instantaneous, things that happen on the other side of the world from wherever we are, are known faster than they've ever been. This makes it possible for us to experience events almost simultaneously, which can heighten our emotional connectivity and also increase the amounts of energy around certain events as well. These events can be positive and negative, we could see emotional energetic spikes or heart coherence levels synching over vast regions of the planet.

One thing that I've found that hate does, is guarantee a succeeding rise in love energy. We have seen, in our lives, that when we all make decisions together, it shifts the collective thought process around ideas and the way it was before simply fades into history. It was that way as recently as yesterday, but it is no longer that way today.


I like to take my time when thinking about these kind of interesting topics. Your answer Mark is most interesting and I like to think about it from looking at the big picture highg above the world.


Thinking about this question “What are the questions you are most driven to find answers to” and one answer seems to branch off into all things somehow.


Your post Mark, really does make one think about the collective conciousness and how the energy dynamics of the process, especially with the large world population now, could be a method of changing or creating a paradigm shift. Also it can explain how what looks to be a negative (bad things happening in the world), then the response of more love, could be slowly stepping up the collective conciousness. The power of each of us as a fractal of the whole, each contributing by our own growth in the way we look at the world could be an approach to looking at how the whole does change and how knowledge of that process could be used constructively with intention.


My mind ponders of how the world is and how we might like it to be and what went wrong along the way to get where we are. There does seem to be two main kinds of intentions leading to two kind of realities. One adds to the whole and becomes more individually and as a whole, and the other leads to a kind of parasitic eating of ones own civilisation.


We are kind of a result of our thinking and how over lifetimes we have been moulded into such a state we can loose our way of where we have come from, why we are here and where we are going. Those questions are the biggest questions I end up asking most often, as I am sure many others do as well.


Love is most often stated as the answer to guide our intentions. What is love really, what does it create in the energy fields and how are we changed by such a state of being.


I sometimes see a space of where that has happened. Where the power of love is a “state of being” where all else can not exist. Love makes war and hurt and illness and imbalance and fear and protecting our selves from danger quite obsolete.

[Mark]

So many good, interesting and deep comments, thank you so much for engaging around this topic.

I find it to be pressing, in that who we are individually can barely be separated from who we are collectively. We like to think we can, but we really can't. We like to think we are individuated and we are, to a large extent, but it could be argued, to an even larger extent, that we are shaped by our environmental and familial surrounds and much of what we think and do is a part of a greater mental and spiritual context of which we are barely consciously aware. Take the example of a lone seeker who spends years on a mountaintop developing their concentration and higher spiritual faculties. That work does not just affect that individual, but also the collective, ranging from his spiritual family to his physical family and then outwards, reverberating into the collective consciousness of oceanic humanity itself. Or, conversely, consider the impact of one murder upon a family, upon a community, a war upon a nation, a region, the world. The negative and positive outcomes of our thoughts, words and deeds become an indelible record for which we are collectively responsible, no matter our personal philosophies of individualism or separation.

The question does indeed branch off into all things, because all questions are related, as all answers, in the end, are the same!

Yes, indeed there are organizations that seek to impact the whole in such a way, who are involved in collective meditations, in tandem with other organizations, to shift the nature of humanity. It seems that, in order to shift meta-narratives at the local or global level, certain numbers are required to make an impact. Meditations have been done locally that half or slow down crime, that shift energetic states in a measurable manner, even globally. Events that have affected entire nations have also been measured and we know the impact can be great upon societies and even the globe. I would argue that we all decided, around the George Floyd event, that police shouldn't be able to just kill folks on camera and get away with it. Even if we later backtracked and took note of the craziness that people bring to everything we do with our political posturing and egocentric ideations, we all did decide to make a change and we have.

In my understanding of the nature of reality, I don't see things as going wrong or even right, I just see them as they are. Present and able to influence people to make their own choices in either one of two polar directions or maintaining stasis, somewhere in the middle or along the sliding grey scale. Good outcomes come from bad events, and bad outcomes come from good events, there are consequences to every choice. We have our druthers and, harkening back unto my earlier statement, our druthers often have collective roots. We think they are ours alone, but of course there are others who feel as we do, maybe for the same reasons; that we learned to be the way we are from our experiences as youths, or we took on certain philosophies we liked or heard about, or tried to be like some outstanding example of humanity in our own lives, our mothers, fathers, uncles, aunts, friends or greater, societal role models. There are archetypal templates for personalities, that we mix and match, meld and fuse together in order to create our own unique and personalized versions of egocentric individuality. And so we decide and live, based upon those druthers, according to shared moral and ethical codes, even those of us who decry such props and live doing what we will as the whole of the law. Even that, is a shared template, within the greater and interlocked community of beingness, all of it integrally interconnected and interactive, all of it connecting, synthesizing, becoming something more than the sum of its parts, perhaps some grander expression of the will and intent of Terran humanity, something which we are all a part of and all affect, whether we know or believe it, or not.

Those two "main kinds of intentions" you mention are the polarity. I would agree with that, but I would also offer that they are confused in the collective space, right now. For instance, many of us in the Alternative Community believe that we are separate from those who are in the mainstream community, when many of us are often only the polar expression of that mainstream community and not really looking to create a new world. Many here want the same world, or a return to a world of the past, because so much is changing in so many ways right now. So, in my viewpoint and perspective, many "conspiracy theorists", especially this newer wave that has arrived upon our shores in the last 6 years or so, are the opposite pole of the Old World. Those who are of the New World are looking beyond our current paradigms and philosophies and ideologies, to get rid of all the -isms and create something brand new. Those who adhere to this vision and truly seek it are currently in the process of coalescing what that may look like but it is going to take some time and some serious world changes, many unexpected and leading to dire outcomes potentially for many, but perhaps necessary in order to shock us out of the comfort of living our lives as we are used to and truly coming to terms with what it is to be part of an aware and concerned polity seeking to live in harmony with each other and our worlds, and that even includes the Old World as it shifts out and the parameters of the new one begin to take form.

What is love, really? Aw, man. Without direct experience of that Greater Love that is obscured from most of us at birth and when we arrive here, it is hard to see love as anything but a subjective choice we make about people, things and concepts.

With that direct experience? Love is All.

[Harmony]

I want to think about your post above Mark, I feel it holds much for me to think deeply about. I see you speak of the greater picture and much more. :flower:

[Mark]

These are things I consider often and deeply. I’m glad to share them, there is value in the discussion and in the shared space of beingness.

[Johnnycomelately]

These are things I consider often and deeply. I’m glad to share them, there is value in the discussion and in the shared space of beingness.

Hi Mark. My beingness is -challenged, as far as use of words to describe what I think it is. Nice to see your example of clarity and depth of thought. Cheers.

[Harmony]

These are things I consider often and deeply. I’m glad to share them, there is value in the discussion and in the shared space of beingness.


Thank you Mark for your thoughts, very much appreciated. I will try and respond the best I can, I don’t have your articulate gift with language. :flower:


Mark, you mentioned how individual conciousness is hard to now discern from the collective. On the physical level we also mirror the collective conciousness as we affect the whole by who we are.


With a larger population, it is harder than ever to just move away from world problems, social and environmental etc. wheather crated by humans or by natural means. We have shared atmosphere and oceans etc. that are not separate.


Spiritually we affect each other, physically we affect each other. Each individual can decide to try and better their self and their world. It seems to come back to the collective then, as it affects the choices available to the individual. So I see it is all connected as you mention.


I think about these things often, it is like we are at a point in time that choices need to be made by us on an individual level as well as a collective level to change our relationship with the whole.


I do see we are trying to transition with new thoughts and actions that are clearly necessary or inevitable and what I feel is that those actions taken need to be aligned with a nurturing aspect and not a destructive one. Using destructive methods to get to the end goal, I feel, will devolve our soul or spiritual being and therefore cause degeneration of society and human values.


Maybe that is where love comes in. I do mean the “Greater Love”, which I guess encompasses all types of love. And I am not sure how that will be possible, but I would like it to be. :heart:

[Chester]

For me, the question is, who are we, as Terran Humanity? What is our greatest destiny and how can we achieve it, together?

THOSE are beautiful questions... that they come from Mark is, for me, no surprise.

[Chester]

What baffles me is this...
Where does the bible and church fit into all of the aliens, targeted individuals and fighting the government? because my experiences I've gone through defy the bible. sorry...

Yep... check out the works by Jason Reza Jorjani - specifically Closer Encounters (https://www.amazon.com/Closer-Encounters-Jason-Reza-Jorjani/dp/1914208382). You'll find quite a bit of helpful information in that book.

[Mark]

Hi Mark. My beingness is -challenged, as far as use of words to describe what I think it is. Nice to see your example of clarity and depth of thought. Cheers.

Hello!

Words so often get in the way, especially when you're trying to describe the intersection of the indescribable with the conceptual. Glad to be able to share and speak with folks about issues you don't normally get to talk about much in everyday life!

[Mark]

Spiritually we affect each other, physically we affect each other. Each individual can decide to try and better their self and their world. It seems to come back to the collective then, as it affects the choices available to the individual. So I see it is all connected as you mention.

Indeed it does. In fact, it seems that it is a spiral, a tube torus in its interrelation and synthesis, the movement of energies within us individually and as interlocked, interconnected greater bodies of consciousness, sub-populations and tribes, collectives of will and intent.



I do see we are trying to transition with new thoughts and actions that are clearly necessary or inevitable and what I feel is that those actions taken need to be aligned with a nurturing aspect and not a destructive one. Using destructive methods to get to the end goal, I feel, will devolve our soul or spiritual being and therefore cause degeneration of society and human values.

Maybe that is where love comes in. I do mean the “Greater Love”, which I guess encompasses all types of love. And I am not sure how that will be possible, but I would like it to be. :heart:

Yes, I agree. My studies are holistic and I seek and engage information in many different areas of people activity to get a greater sense of the whole. We tend to see-saw quite a bit as a greater human family, something terrible will happen and then, as a result, something wonderful and positive happens. It often takes trauma and drama to create goodwill and open the space for the expression of love as we would like it to be all the time, open and giving and inclusive and nurturing. That nurturing builds bonds that last, even through the tough times and, if the trauma is deep enough, reaches the level of epigenetic expression, then it becomes an opportunity to raise consciousness for many people simultaneously.

Right now, so many social issues are up for discussion in the United States and around the world. For better and for worse, we are talking about things that have lain fallow, or have not had a full airing in the public sphere, ever. And we are hearing voices we have not heard and perspectives we are not familiar with and everybody's reactions are all right and good, because they are free expression and necessary to make the decisions required to co-create a different future for our children and our children's children. Love comes into it at every stage, if you understand love to be more than a general feeling of well being directed to individuals, groups of humanity as an abstract whole. If you see love as what it is, a fundamental motive force of creation in this world and beyond, then it becomes a driving power and expressive force girding our continuing quest for expression. Because we are One, at the higher levels, we must of necessity compromise our positions and beliefs in order to live harmonically with other humans. That doesn't necessarily mean we give up what we believe, but instead, we understand that we are in a diverse world and that diversity actually makes us stronger. There is room enough for different perspectives on this planet and all of our current travails with cancel culture and separation that we are working through at the global level are necessary and the conflicts themselves are an expression of the Greater Good as we accomplish an aim that has never in this Age been accomplished before. Whether we are at the end of Globalization as the mainstream Pundits keep saying in the news lately or not, we are definitely at an energetic inflection point and we will collectively decide, together, how we must move forward, whether it be as a single, economic and political entity or in a multi-polar world, divided into Eastern and Western blocs, we will invariably move forward.

Our children and grandchildren are paying close attention to what their Elders are doing and saying right now.

It looks like they don't want the world of our past or the world we are living in now.

And, in the end, it is what they want, not what we want, that will determine where we go and what we do. We can say and do what we want as we continue to litigate the past and try to determine the future for people who do not seem to want the same things or even inhabit the same world as we do.

But that is love, too, isn't it.


On Children
Kahlil Gibran (https://poets.org/poet/kahlil-gibran) - 1883-1931

And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said, Speak to us of Children.
And he said:
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life’s longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you with His might that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer’s hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that is stable.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


THOSE are beautiful questions... that they come from Mark is, for me, no surprise.

Hey Chester, glad to see you are well, as the world continues to shift within and around us all.

[Johnnycomelately]

Then smoke this... https://astediscovery.com/COVID/DEPOPULATION.htm

...and get back to me in 2026.

I thought we were talking about experiences. Nothing here has been experientially observed. It's a depopulation forecast. I fail to see how this has any bearing on anything under discussion, specifically the reality of spiritual truth.

The thread is entitled "What are the questions you are most driven to find answers to?"

Is "your version" of what you determine to be "spiritual truth" (and thus, all-encompassing reality) the only question anyone else should explore? Should I complain to mods that my thread is being derailed by a mod who wishes to impose their version of what they believe to be "spiritual truth" upon the rest of us?

Is your "spiritual truth" sanctioned by Project Avalon? I doubt it, but I have learned not to assume.

Seriously... how are others here able to explore their potential truths when an authority of the forum is imposing theirs as the only possible and all-encompassing truth? Is this what Bill wants this forum to become?

Hi Chester. Considering you started by noting the name of the thread, you have some weird-a** existential questions.

About your worry, you sound like you think he meant “the spiritual truth”, when you properly quoted his “spiritual truth”. Big difference. I think Mark is OK. SOMEbody has to talk about these parameters of life. Cheers.

[Harmony]

Spiritually we affect each other, physically we affect each other. Each individual can decide to try and better their self and their world. It seems to come back to the collective then, as it affects the choices available to the individual. So I see it is all connected as you mention.

Indeed it does. In fact, it seems that it is a spiral, a tube torus in its interrelation and synthesis, the movement of energies within us individually and as interlocked, interconnected greater bodies of consciousness, sub-populations and tribes, collectives of will and intent.



I do see we are trying to transition with new thoughts and actions that are clearly necessary or inevitable and what I feel is that those actions taken need to be aligned with a nurturing aspect and not a destructive one. Using destructive methods to get to the end goal, I feel, will devolve our soul or spiritual being and therefore cause degeneration of society and human values.

Maybe that is where love comes in. I do mean the “Greater Love”, which I guess encompasses all types of love. And I am not sure how that will be possible, but I would like it to be. :heart:

Yes, I agree. My studies are holistic and I seek and engage information in many different areas of people activity to get a greater sense of the whole. We tend to see-saw quite a bit as a greater human family, something terrible will happen and then, as a result, something wonderful and positive happens. It often takes trauma and drama to create goodwill and open the space for the expression of love as we would like it to be all the time, open and giving and inclusive and nurturing. That nurturing builds bonds that last, even through the tough times and, if the trauma is deep enough, reaches the level of epigenetic expression, then it becomes an opportunity to raise consciousness for many people simultaneously.

Right now, so many social issues are up for discussion in the United States and around the world. For better and for worse, we are talking about things that have lain fallow, or have not had a full airing in the public sphere, ever. And we are hearing voices we have not heard and perspectives we are not familiar with and everybody's reactions are all right and good, because they are free expression and necessary to make the decisions required to co-create a different future for our children and our children's children. Love comes into it at every stage, if you understand love to be more than a general feeling of well being directed to individuals, groups of humanity as an abstract whole. If you see love as what it is, a fundamental motive force of creation in this world and beyond, then it becomes a driving power and expressive force girding our continuing quest for expression. Because we are One, at the higher levels, we must of necessity compromise our positions and beliefs in order to live harmonically with other humans. That doesn't necessarily mean we give up what we believe, but instead, we understand that we are in a diverse world and that diversity actually makes us stronger. There is room enough for different perspectives on this planet and all of our current travails with cancel culture and separation that we are working through at the global level are necessary and the conflicts themselves are an expression of the Greater Good as we accomplish an aim that has never in this Age been accomplished before. Whether we are at the end of Globalization as the mainstream Pundits keep saying in the news lately or not, we are definitely at an energetic inflection point and we will collectively decide, together, how we must move forward, whether it be as a single, economic and political entity or in a multi-polar world, divided into Eastern and Western blocs, we will invariably move forward.

Our children and grandchildren are paying close attention to what their Elders are doing and saying right now.

It looks like they don't want the world of our past or the world we are living in now.

And, in the end, it is what they want, not what we want, that will determine where we go and what we do. We can say and do what we want as we continue to litigate the past and try to determine the future for people who do not seem to want the same things or even inhabit the same world as we do.

But that is love, too, isn't it.


On Children
Kahlil Gibran (https://poets.org/poet/kahlil-gibran) - 1883-1931

And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said, Speak to us of Children.
And he said:
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life’s longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you with His might that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer’s hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that is stable.


¤=[Post Update]=¤


THOSE are beautiful questions... that they come from Mark is, for me, no surprise.

Hey Chester, glad to see you are well, as the world continues to shift within and around us all.


Thank you for sharing Mark. A very inspiring post to read. The bolded part you wrote above, I can clearly see in my minds eye and have seen something similar.


I will respond after thinking some more, but first I would like to ask Chester if he is ok with continueing the interaction and responses in this kind of spontaneous manner or were you wanting shorter answers. I want to respect your intention for this thread. It is easy to start another thread branching off this one if you would prefer :flower:

[Merkaba360]

My question is:

Why is the black magic starting to fail?

IMHO the black magic IS failing for some reason. But why?

The cracks are appearing very rapidly and my favorite euphunism is the "MASKS ARE COMING OFF!"

I saw Trudeau drop his mask and Zelensky and now many others, but why now and why all at once?

It is literally blowing my mind how quickly secrets which were buried for decades are being revealed.

Pooooffff!!

It's all a production, complete with actors, comedians, stage hand, roadies, you name it, it's there.

So why did the magic fail?
I saw my niece today and she said something which absolutely floored me. (This is the little, goofy red-haired kid that was rolling down a grassy hill the first time I met her and now years later...)

She said that because people were quarantined for two years, they were quiet and alone more, and made closer contact with their guiding spirits; hence now they have better discernment.

This hit me as especially profound and I wanted to share it.

Perhaps this is a silent, completely unexpected blow-back that is happening to expose the sorcerers for what they really are.



I would say speed is one reason, if not the main one. All the barriers of this illusion are speed barriers. Speed of our consciousness or frequency or whatever. That is what psychedelics do, they borrow from our plant allies giving an energy/speed boost, which breaks down the illusions real quick.

Black magic relies on a real slow dull heavy consciousness. Also, the illusion of separation is the root illusion that pretty much causes all other illusions. The internet is playing a huge role in speeding up information and our interior mental speed. Integration is key. Integration breaks the duality, black and white illusion (which is really the original sin or seeming separation). Once you reach the yellow stage in spiral dynamics (integral stage), the Us vs Them, black magic game doesn't work anymore as 1 example. The internet speed is allowing people to integrate so much information quickly, to see many angles, it exposes these pathetic simplistic views the MSM or whoever gives as obviously not the full truth and the misleading.

So, not only are individuals speeding up their consciousness, but with so many humans speeding up, that effects the collective consciousness, since we are all ultimately One (an integrated whole). That becomes a positive feedback loop of the one effecting the whole and the upgrading of the whole upgrades individuals more.

I just recently read someone who spoke with some master guide (not in this world) and asked if we are changing so much cuz of some energy coming in from the center of the galaxy or whatever, and the master said, no its because of the internet. lol

We have really only had a decent internet speed for ~21 years and you tube was born like 2005, yet still tiny. So, video sharing has only been big for 15 ish years. Smart phones also gave another boost. They came out in 2007-2008, but really only been going strong for 10 years. It takes some years to get all the functioning and people to get addicted.

I think the results of this huge impact is just blossoming. 20 years ago there was just so many older people and some younger people not diving deep into the web. Now, even my stubborn mom in her 70s finally uses a smart phone for the last 2 years ish.

Its just so easy to search around and find that things are often not what they appear to be or straight up lies. Also, people unplugged from the black magic fog are everywhere now. So, those in the fog are seeing our counter arguments often now.

[Merkaba360]

Do we really need to experience suffering, hate, etc. to know and fully appreciate the opposites, love, peace, etc. OR is that just a dangerous false belief? I think of a charged battery or something with this polarity. So, if someone wanted to have the most amazing bliss/ecstasy ever, they would plunge themselves into a long horrible hell....upon coming out of that they reach a level of bliss none of us could ever achieve thru our moderately suffering lives?

If not, then what purpose to experience something so horrible if the rewards are equal to a moderate experience? Is it about the ONE experiencing more infinite possibilities of itself? It is just what happens when we choose to get lost in the labyrinth. Which leads to some getting super lost and stuck in hells?

An astral projector once said that after many years of it, he realized to stay away from extremes. So, that would mean that both horrible hells and ecstatic intensities are unsustainable and burn yourself out. Is the ultimate high or orgasm, just a futile impermanent experience that have a cost that is overlooked in the short term. Are we just going for a nice middle way bliss that is wonderful and forever, rather than a short burst of unsustainable ecstasy/orgasm.

Mattias De Stefano says that the 7th dimension (pretty sure it was 7th) is basically like a constant orgasm. English is his second language, so maybe if pressed, he would say that is not quite right. I dont know about u guys, but I certainly can't do anything at such intensities. So, is the 7th dimension just like a soaking in an ocean of bliss where we dont do anything? lol Or, is that quite right and maybe he meant that its like how we feel internally during sex. Just constant waves of energy circling within and around us, but not releasing it like a bomb. :) Then one could actually do more than just freak out in ecstasy. lol

What is the most pleasurable and desirable state? Is this sort of like the quantum problem that we can't know both the speed and position simultaneously. We can only have one or the other......a wonderful peaceful feeling constantly forever, or a super amazing rocket fueled ecstasy for a short while. It seems if the energy in the universe is infinite, why couldn't it blast a high voltage of orgasmic energy constantly or at least for a very long time. I mean, there is enough energy to create uncountable worlds in the universe.

But then again, it sure appears that we must eventually learn to get over our addiction to massive energy bursts and releases via orgasm and stay centered to contain that energy swirling it around - recycle. Or is that just how it is in 3D but not in less restricted realms. hmmmmmm

Also, why must this world have such extreme harshness. I mean, we all know of some REALLY messed up things/experiences. Its so hard to accept. I think it freaks out most of us. The normies often shut down if u try to bring up something detailed. we are living in a pretty messed up haunted house (since its ultimately illusion), yet full of much awesomeness too. We are all sensitive enough that the crazy suffering affects us. I guess that is needed to help change it? But sometimes I wonder how ignorant or crazy I was to get myself into this wild west planet. :)

[Heart to heart]

I see there are many questions on this thread, many members seeking many answers.

If you wish I could put them to the oracle I work with and get answers. But it would be appreciated if you would put them in a shorter format! I am willing to put them forward and see how it goes!

And you may be pleasantly surprised by the answers you receive, as I have been on many occasions.

‘Ask and you shall receive’, as the “good book” says, so why not give it a go!