An Exhaustion setting in

[thepainterdoug]

Wonder who is feeling this way?
I notice myself recoiling, pulling back and going within.
im not sure if its a giving up, but there is only so long one can go, chasing logic and common sense, feeling anyday that I will wake up from this dream, only to remain in it as it gets worse.

I am now down to just reading headlines and deleting. Im noticing my friends not responding to much anymore. They are doing this too.

i get notices on telegram from jerm warfare, asb military, 100 a day along with other messages from like minded friends. can't absorb

On Gab and Gettr im noticing less intensity, less participation or even little response to things that would have once been monumental

Bobolinski, Durham, Steel Dossier, russian collusion, bleached hard drives,missing biden laptop, porn photos released, e mails released,underage pics released, crack smoking, biolabs in ukraine, kindergardeners being brainwashed, clot shots dropping people, cruise ships with full breakouts of the double vaxxed, housewives now terrorists, no definition for a woman, fauci here then gone then back again, gates has new virus coming, fake news constantly , is the will smith slap real or staged, no one knows, green screen, crisis actors, loss of energy independance, just buy an electric car, eat lentils, food shortages a new reality and so on and on and on.

People only hear soundbites. Once its determined it supports their team, they respond yes, if not its totally dismissed.
Its all about comfort zones.
cannot share a counterpoint article because if the source threatens their comfort zone, its deleted.
we are all preaching to the choir. there is no bringing someone over, their is no togetherness, no comraderie, no harmony. america and its constitution is being bleached out and we just keep going, no checks or balances.

If any of what the bidens are displaying, had the trumps in its place, the child pics, the laptop,the crackpipe it would be earthshattering and a total scandal of the highest proportions. If Trump had the ukraine prosecutor fired, if trump sold uranium to russia, if trump had the classified e mails on his home server, and again if trump, on and on and on, shoe on the other foot,and so on the media would be in a frenzy.

no one goes to jail. no one is fired or prosecuted. clinton gets an 8000$ fine? really, think she can swing it?
biden says we need to get rid of putin and the whitehouse walks it back? who is the whitehouse? who??? pelousy? cliten? obomber? who is walking things back? I thought Joe was the whitehouse?

im tired and im sure so are you.
like him or hate him, now that hes gone , in 18 months we are now on the cusp of nuclear war. nothing makes sense, inlfation, prices, gas, EVERYTHING , and the people of this country are divided and manipulated like never before.

[Patient]

Yes, pull back a bit and relax. Breathe and enjoy and smile with each exhale.

The answers will not be something we read, it will be something that we think ourselves.

Those beautiful paintings you did came from within you!

[Patient]

I am not sure where you are living, but here it has been a long winter. I was looking at my canoe with longing the other day. The geese have returned to a frozen pond and were honking away!

I am tired and sore but I go out 2 or 3 times a day and chop some wood for the fire.

Looking for a new club to train in now that covid and mask restrictions lifted.

Always looking for something fun and/or interesting to do. It is too easy to sit in front of a PC screen for hours.

[Heart to heart]

Dear Doug,
There are many feeling world weary just as you are but don’t give up. Let go of all the crap going on outside and go within and let your heart speak to you. It will tell you that nature is wonderfully alive and doing its thing as it has always done. Here in my part of the world the buds of Spring are showing, bright yellow celandines turn to face the sun, blossom falls like snowflakes in the chill northeast winds, hosts of daffodils and primroses line the banks of the roads, the tide comes in and out like men’s lives, all to remind us that Mother Nature will do what she has to do no matter what man is doing, leaving his heavy footprint wherever he walks.

Stop watching bad news, reading the negativity in the newspapers, and be grateful for all the small mercies that come your way, like opening up the Avalon Forum and finding you are among friends who care that you are feeling the way you are and love you for who you are - a very talented artist who sees through the shams of this broken world. Your gift never comes alone, you see the glories but also the darkness that creeps in uninvited when you turn your back.

The deception is great but LOVE is the key that opens every heart. Your heart is wide open so you sense the despondency of many. But all the while there is a heartbeat there is HOPE and we must never give up on Hope. Make the most of the moment so pick up your spiritual brush and paint a joyous New Future for yourself and those you love.

Sending many blessings from this little island off the south coast of England

Carolyn ❤️to❤️

[Sadieblue]

I just stay in my surroundings, and in small groups (family). I try not to think about all that is going
on in the world all the time. I find peace in nature and now that Spring is here, in my flowers. I do stay
at home almost all the time finding peace within myself.

[Mike]

Hi Doug, Much of it is what ex KGB agent Yuri Benzemov called "demoralization".

The endless lies upon lies. The deception. The shamelessness. The soulless 24 hr news cycle. And so on..

The hope is that we'll all just throw our hands up in the air and give up. Accept whatever comes. So forth

This video has been posted on the forum numerous times but belongs in this thread:
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[Arcturian108]

Doug,
If you ever learned how to meditate, now is the time to do it daily. It acts to erase the ugliness, something like erasing a tape recording and putting another track over the old bad one. In my part of the Blue Mountains hardly anyone is wearing a mask these days. Strangers are smiling at each other again, with a twinkle in their eyes.
They know that the worst of Covid is behind us, except some of those who made the mistake of getting the shots. It is so important to only let yourself be exposed to
the daily news in small portions. Then erase the bad bits by meditating or taking a long walk, and observing the birds returning, and the flowers blooming once more.
We have seen the outline of the beast, and so too have many others. We are alert to the steps we must avoid, and we are determined to not let the globalists take this any further than they already have.

[Patient]

Lol! I just went out to chop a bit of wood, and there was a goose on my front lawn. :)

It feels to me that connecting to nature and the earth is where we are (or should) be going!

[Sadieblue]

Negative draws negative, positive draws positive, when the negative starts playing over and over in my mind, I tell my self to release that and start thinking of things that are positive, Doug give it a try and see if that helps, I surely hope so. Then lose yourself into a beautiful painting.

[Antagenet]

Exhaustion is putting it mildly. I thought it was just me. Thanks for posting this.

[thepainterdoug]

thank you all for the message of tranquility.

I live outside NYC I can see the " freedom" tower haha, from my window.

but it just can't be enviorment. it can't be, you there Im here. in the 1930ies and forward in germany and europe, as things were ramping up for hitler etc, yes there were plenty of places of tranquility. I can picture the same reactions, Hilda, what are you worried about, see the geese, the flowers,s beautiful in springtime, relax.

its not about feeling good . i do feel good, nap meditate , play hockey and live a great life. but these are not the answers. im not , quite respectfully , trying or asking to be fixed

Im seeing something happening that doesnt add up.
so am I off my rocker? or in front of my own eyes we are at a tipping point?

thank you for your care.

antagenet/ thanks i hear you.

edit/ I often think of "the british are coming !, the british are coming !!

and what if people said, relax, take it easy and chill out ?

[Mike Gorman]

I am finding myself in the garden more often and I am determined to get our Lemon & Orange trees back into good health, the Mango tree is flourishing and our Macadamia trees are also doing well.
There is a certain volume of bad news and civilizational destruction we can tolerate, then we burn out and need to replenish our spirit, AGREED!

[Patient]

thank you all for the message of tranquility.

I live outside NYC I can see the " freedom" tower haha, from my window.

but it just can't be enviorment. it can't be, you there Im here. in the 1930ies and forward in germany and europe, as things were ramping up for hitler etc, yes there were plenty of places of tranquility. I can picture the same reactions, Hilda, what are you worried about, see the geese, the flowers,s beautiful in springtime, relax.

its not about feeling good . i do feel good, nap meditate , play hockey and live a great life. but these are not the answers. im not , quite respectfully , trying or asking to be fixed

Im seeing something happening that doesnt add up.
so am I off my rocker? or in front of my own eyes we are at a tipping point?

thank you for your care.

antagenet/ thanks i hear you.

edit/ I often think of "the british are coming !, the british are coming !!

and what if people said, relax, take it easy and chill out ?

Well, we are all experiencing the same things, but from different perspectives. Different locations.

And yes - here in North America, our governments are out of control wacko nuts. Trudeau is totally controlled, Biden is controlled by hidden handlers.

Are there enough of us that still have our heads and hearts in the right place?

What's next?

Who knows - just gotta make it yours!
:heart::sun:

[RunningDeer]

Besides all that's happening around the world, the Schumann Resonance is a possible reason why I'm feeling drained and experiencing erratic sleep patterns.


Schumann Resonance
March 29th-31st

https://i.imgur.com/cfEILeo.jpg

”We may feel and exhibit signs of discomfort that can range from anxiety, insomnia, illness, etc. ”


1509349991202144258
https://twitter.com/schumannbot/status/1509349991202144258

[Patient]

I saw something about that - but I didn't think it was gonna hit us yet.

[RunningDeer]

I saw something about that - but I didn't think it was gonna hit us yet.

Bluegreen posted (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1490999&viewfull=1#post1490999) this early this evening.


{snip}

Your Space & Weather Forecast

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZQTPdEKGEBs/mqdefault.jpg

https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AKedOLTL6XjG016CBB8KSVwZM239ghhBjyb6JFwPawj7Gg=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj

Space Weather Update March 29th 2022 - A New Large M-Flare Inbound

(11:18)
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RED ALERT! - Danger Upgrade for Wednesday's BIG STORM - Geomagnetic Storm

Stay cool, stay aware & be prepared. God bless everyone, T LEWISON 5430 BIRDWOOD RD. #416 HOUSTON TEXAS 77096

Published 29th March 2022 (11:13)

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[Mike Gorman]

mNI9ER014H8

Suspicious Observer channel provides some good materials and clarity. We are interconnected and delicately balanced creatures and the conditions of the universe of course deeply affect us all on some level.

[DeDukshyn]

Thanks for sharing Doug. I have been feeling similar ... my sister asked if I was in FB jail again, because I wasn't posting memes and wake up calls, lol. I'm not feeling exhaustion as much as perhaps more of an "outbreath", perhaps a resting moment (in the grand scheme) and time to get back to finding our local like minded and develop roots of sustenance.

Everything happens in cycles, and I try to take advantage of all of them, instead of letting them get to me because they feel "uncomfortable" - its often just for a little while, until energies change again.

[DeDukshyn]

mNI9ER014H8

Suspicious Observer channel provides some good materials and clarity. We are interconnected and delicately balanced creatures and the conditions of the universe of course deeply affect us all on some level.

An excellent reminder of our sun's influences on everything that happens here; something also known in ancient times (Chinese birth calendar, for example).

Thanks for sharing.

[Johnnycomelately]

Bluegreen posted (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1490999&viewfull=1#post1490999) this early this evening.


{snip}

Your Space & Weather Forecast



Hi Sis. I don’t know what Schumann Resonance is, tho I have heard it mentioned. I get my space-weather news almost exclusively from Ben Davidson on Suspiscious 0bservers dot com (YT, and/though I’m not too proud to admit I have unsubscribed to his paywall dot-org of same name). About the CMEs that Bluegreen references reports on, Ben only talks about health effects dependant on latent susceptibilities in heart and mental condition. Besides the solar particle influx, he also warns of similar but worse effects from the not-Sun higher energy particles from galactic sources that reach Earth’s surface in times of magnetosphere slumber (when Sun is quiet). Have not heard S-resonance mentioned.

Here are his words on this yesterday, 3.29.22, 2:30-2:55.

Please help me if I’m missing something big. I let go his sub because honestly I can’t use that much info. I know I’m missing stuff. Cheers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNI9ER014H8

[Eric J (Viking)]

As Anchor said to me…’you didn’t come here for a holiday, but the end game will be awesome’…

Viking

[pyrangello]

Life is like a pendulum , it swings one way then another but always comes back to center. I believe we went so far left people have had quite enough of this being force fed down our throats, the over 500 riots in 2020, the lockdowns being narrated by a phycopath, being on a train with a solid direction only to jump the tracks and realize the conductor is nuts , makes no sense and has everyone on the train realizing they have no idea where they are being taking to. Then there,s the all out assault on the little kids to create an orchestrated doubt in their thoughts in public schools as to if they are male or female at age 5 and let them decide after the tutorial. I'm not anti gay or homophobic,but these lbgttrans minority nut jobs want more indoctrinated kids like more cherries to pick from a tree. Then there,s the stress from the financial end of all of this, the high cost of everything, and a generation now living on free government money having no idea what hard times could be and only confusion due to unchartered territory and less social skills due to pushing buttons all day on a phone. And how about the media's exploitation of daily nut job crimes that are reported minutes after it happens, we use to have insane asylums for the mentally ill, now there are phobia names for every condition along with designer big pharma drugs. Yeah all this is exhausting, until you realize you can step back, regroup, do something pleasant or quiet that you enjoy and realize things are not as bad as it seems. That all these things have been going on forever, it does seem overwhelming but there are more people on the earth so it seems more common but it's not.

Your not the one on the news on tv and you have never been , your not the one committing crimes and have never even had that thought. The people who make headlines in the news are the extreme minority as I would submit to you most people on this planet have hearts full of giving far and wide, smiles that make others smile, and laughs shared everyday. From a mother in India, to a father in Iceland, to a farmer in Brazil, to a flower shop owner in Australia, to a little child in Ukraine that has no idea what the hell is going on why they have to move. We're all good people of the earth and we all desire the same , peace love, understanding, and a hug, it's gonna be ok. Just keep your focus and will get back to center .

[Journeyman]

It is so important to only let yourself be exposed to
the daily news in small portions. Then erase the bad bits by meditating or taking a long walk, and observing the birds returning, and the flowers blooming once more..

This is wonderful advice. I'm not lucky enough to live in the beautiful Blue Mountains (loved my time there) but walking the dog through the woods here is my therapy. I can see spring all around me and it knows nothing of Hollywood theatrics or election fraud. The more I ration my exposure to MSM and our increasingly debased culture the better I feel.

Sending best wishes to you Doug from across the pond. Hope you get your paintbrushes out and share the results. You made Durham manifest, paint all of us a golden, peaceful future and repeat the trick again!

[RunningDeer]

Sending best wishes to you Doug from across the pond. Hope you get your paintbrushes out and share the results. You made Durham manifest, paint all of us a golden, peaceful future and repeat the trick again!
For those that missed Doug’s thread called, "Where's Durham??? A continuing painting series" (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116286-Where-s-Durham-A-continuing-painting-series&p=1451976&viewfull=1#post1451976), here’s his first of several paintings and the opening post:


"I am painting the same Durham portrait over and over until we get an answer.

WHERES DURHAM?

I see them as a prayer , an effort to keep the thought in our minds

They are quick works, non labored, numbered on the top right.

Here is no one. I will post one a week.

please feel free to say or post anything Durham related on this post .
ty"


https://i.imgur.com/vgeZOEG.jpg

[thepainterdoug]

thank you all. ha funny, i painted 3 durhams and durham arrived with a report.

and yes to acturians advice. and well said pyrangello, and thank you journeyman, running dear and everyone

I am ok and do all these things you have all suggested.

ohh, so i just saw sen ron johnson enter some rather damning evidence of millions in transactions between hunter b and china.

will this finally start the dominos falling ?

[Bill Ryan]

For those that missed Doug’s thread called, "Where's Durham??? A continuing painting series" (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116286-Where-s-Durham-A-continuing-painting-series&p=1451976&viewfull=1#post1451976), here’s his first of several paintings and the opening post:
And this major thread, too:


THOSE WHO BLEW THE WHISTLE: Painted Portraits of Whistleblowers by artist Doug Auld (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65892-THOSE-WHO-BLEW-THE-WHISTLE-Painted-Portraits-of-Whistleblowers-by-artist-Doug-Auld)

[Journeyman]

thank you all. ha funny, i painted 3 durhams and durham arrived with a report.

and yes to acturians advice. and well said pyrangello, and thank you journeyman, running dear and everyone

I am ok and do all these things you have all suggested.

ohh, so i just saw sen ron johnson enter some rather damning evidence of millions in transactions between hunter b and china.

will this finally start the dominos falling ?

Here's one from left field. Maybe your (and others) exhaustion is due to you receiving upgrades? (http://forum.presbeia-protoi.org/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=2150&start=2680#p39267)

[RunningDeer]

Here's one from left field. Maybe your (and others) exhaustion is due to you receiving upgrades? (http://forum.presbeia-protoi.org/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=2150&start=2680#p39267)
Yes, upgrades that’s a part of it for me. And fine tuning connection between higher self and Cosmic Source, and eventually engaging with new high conscious sources. Part of my day is experimenting with activities that enhance the natural being that I’m s-l-o-w-l-y beginning to understand and catch in those rare, precious moments. I’m enjoying the journey!

Disclaimer: I’m a work in progress.
http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/work-in-progress.gif

[Frankie Pancakes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDidIiCYNgE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVV1TV2rfy4

Definitely not trying to be flippant.

Sometimes sage advice comes through music.

[thepainterdoug]

yes upgrades!!

im in this world, not of this world

[yelik]

Thev satanic elite are trying to destroy the will of man. Perhaps we notice it more because we try to understand and make sense of their ways which is tiring in itself, trying to follow the mind of evil is not for the faint hearted.

We are in a psychological war for the control of human conciousness where bombarding us with lies, deception, chaos and destruction is difficult to comprehend because no normal human could sustain such a mindset for long - it would drive us insane.

I get annoyed when they no lomger try to hide their evil plans and nobody gives a ****, I blame the jab, lol

I meditate each morning and must admit that recently I have been going too deep for me, interesting nonetheless. I do not like the feeling of not being in control, so up I get

[Mashika]

Wonder who is feeling this way?
I notice myself recoiling, pulling back and going within.
im not sure if its a giving up, but there is only so long one can go, chasing logic and common sense, feeling anyday that I will wake up from this dream, only to remain in it as it gets worse.

I am now down to just reading headlines and deleting. Im noticing my friends not responding to much anymore. They are doing this too.

i get notices on telegram from jerm warfare, asb military, 100 a day along with other messages from like minded friends. can't absorb

On Gab and Gettr im noticing less intensity, less participation or even little response to things that would have once been monumental

Bobolinski, Durham, Steel Dossier, russian collusion, bleached hard drives,missing biden laptop, porn photos released, e mails released,underage pics released, crack smoking, biolabs in ukraine, kindergardeners being brainwashed, clot shots dropping people, cruise ships with full breakouts of the double vaxxed, housewives now terrorists, no definition for a woman, fauci here then gone then back again, gates has new virus coming, fake news constantly , is the will smith slap real or staged, no one knows, green screen, crisis actors, loss of energy independance, just buy an electric car, eat lentils, food shortages a new reality and so on and on and on.

People only hear soundbites. Once its determined it supports their team, they respond yes, if not its totally dismissed.
Its all about comfort zones.
cannot share a counterpoint article because if the source threatens their comfort zone, its deleted.
we are all preaching to the choir. there is no bringing someone over, their is no togetherness, no comraderie, no harmony. america and its constitution is being bleached out and we just keep going, no checks or balances.

If any of what the bidens are displaying, had the trumps in its place, the child pics, the laptop,the crackpipe it would be earthshattering and a total scandal of the highest proportions. If Trump had the ukraine prosecutor fired, if trump sold uranium to russia, if trump had the classified e mails on his home server, and again if trump, on and on and on, shoe on the other foot,and so on the media would be in a frenzy.

no one goes to jail. no one is fired or prosecuted. clinton gets an 8000$ fine? really, think she can swing it?
biden says we need to get rid of putin and the whitehouse walks it back? who is the whitehouse? who??? pelousy? cliten? obomber? who is walking things back? I thought Joe was the whitehouse?

im tired and im sure so are you.
like him or hate him, now that hes gone , in 18 months we are now on the cusp of nuclear war. nothing makes sense, inlfation, prices, gas, EVERYTHING , and the people of this country are divided and manipulated like never before.

I don't know what this is truly about but i have literal gliberish to say, check below

wasohdoahsdoajosaodaohsdoauhdoauhdouahd

And once that was said, i have a song

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[onawah]

It's not just those with mental or heart conditions who are affected by activity from the Sun, it's also people who are sensitive to EMFs and are just sensitive in general.
I learned much, much later that the day I had a NDE back in November '72 was a day when a huge CME hit the Earth.
I didn't know why I was so spacy, tired and depressed, though I wasn't the only one (I guess I thought it was just a bad astrological aspect).
But I'm quite sure that had it been another day with no big CMEs, the hit and run driver who struck and nearly killed me that day would not have even come close to me.
I should have just stayed home that day, instead of "soldiering on."
We have to know when to give ourselves a break.




Bluegreen posted (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1490999&viewfull=1#post1490999) this early this evening.


{snip}

Your Space & Weather Forecast



Hi Sis. I don’t know what Schumann Resonance is, tho I have heard it mentioned. I get my space-weather news almost exclusively from Ben Davidson on Suspiscious 0bservers dot com (YT, and/though I’m not too proud to admit I have unsubscribed to his paywall dot-org of same name). About the CMEs that Bluegreen references reports on, Ben only talks about health effects dependant on latent susceptibilities in heart and mental condition. Besides the solar particle influx, he also warns of similar but worse effects from the not-Sun higher energy particles from galactic sources that reach Earth’s surface in times of magnetosphere slumber (when Sun is quiet). Have not heard S-resonance mentioned.

Here are his words on this yesterday, 3.29.22, 2:30-2:55.

Please help me if I’m missing something big. I let go his sub because honestly I can’t use that much info. I know I’m missing stuff. Cheers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNI9ER014H8

[thepainterdoug]

onawah/ well said , good advice. i have been exhausted and just feel like staring at a wall. i tend to be a constant worker and Im giving myself a break. my thoughts are diffused and scattered and feel drained

[pyrangello]

We're getting slammed from every angle and dimension right now, it's very important to take a few minutes when you start feeling overwhelmed and stop , look around you, take some deep breathes and just regroup. Even I'm having to do this now. I have been.even walking the dog out at night in the yard just to look at the stars and take in the quiet and beauty at the same time.

[RunningDeer]

Our breathing is shallow when we experience fear, anxiety, and depression, etc. It’s important to take deep breaths throughout the day as part of our health regime.

According to ancients, it’s Cosmic Consciousness that intellectualizes humans, and Cosmic Force in the form of cosmic rays that animates the body. The body is composed of and sustained by cosmic rays either directly or indirectly in the form of minerals condensed from the rays after they strike the earth’s atmosphere.

Even if you believe the above to be poppycock, just breathe. Take a deep, slow breath through the nose for a count of seven, hold for seven, and exhale through the mouth for seven. I use this method throughout the day. I no longer count off and I notice that it’s becoming an automatic behavior.

An additional benefit is the more you intake from cosmic sources it lessens the appetite for physical food, hence the regenerative adjustment proceeds.

Side note: my latest health investment was air purifiers (https://www.amazon.com/Blueair-Purifier-Washable-Pre-Filter-Allergens/dp/B085B4V3DN/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1) for every room. They work. I live in the country and was surprised how much these machines took in. I can’t imagine the amount of toxicity city folks breathe in on the daily. If you can only afford one machine set it up in the bedroom to help regenerate your body while you sleep.


Blueair 411 Plus Auto Air Purifier - Quick Review! (1:47 min)
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@7:47 (https://youtu.be/E6hdY4jPefg?t=466) is the smoke test demonstration.


Blueair Blue Pure 411 Review (Performance Test and Smoke Box)
E6hdY4jPefg

[Bill Ryan]

My thanks to everyone who's shared excellent advice here. :flower: Doug isn't the only person — by far! — for whom the last couple of years are starting to feel like a toll is being taken.

One small piece of practical advice is to increase one's daily B vitamin update (including B12, which is hard to absorb). Stress, internal or external, burns up B vitamins like there's no tomorrow. It's worth looking at carefully, and might really make a difference for some people.

:bearhug:

[truthseek]

Project Avalon members, you are amazing beings! It is very encouraging to know that all these heartfelt loving thoughts will indeed create a better world... namaste. :sun:

[avid]

Reading back, I recognise my withdrawal over the last couple of years. Totally devoid of motivation, but looking forward to doing stuff which is never done, total ostrich head attitude, negating responsibilities, not even wanting to leave the room, never mind the house. Not wanting to eat. Can’t sleep. Avoiding human contact. Housework piling up. Almost at a standstill. Need to shake myself out of this, love my garden, beautiful new magnolia out at last.
So unfit struggling to walk now, unexercised back muscles scream at me when walking uphill. Can’t even visit my neighbours. Utterly devoid of anything, even posting here now and researching is an effort (who cares what I think), sinking into oblivion is really upsetting. Really trying to get up and go, but my fizzle is a very damp squib, and my presence has almost ‘got up and gone’. Age is a burden, as am I to my only child, under threat of illness due to vax, moving home right now, worried sick for them, daughter in law ill with autoimmune vax induced illness. Aaaaarrrggghhh!!!
Sorry, just offloaded loads, will try to do better tomorrow, clean a floor, wash a window etc, will write a list and be proud to tick off each item.
Thanks :muscle:

[Patient]

Reading back, I recognise my withdrawal over the last couple of years. Totally devoid of motivation, but looking forward to doing stuff which is never done, total ostrich head attitude, negating responsibilities, not even wanting to leave the room, never mind the house. Not wanting to eat. Can’t sleep. Avoiding human contact. Housework piling up. Almost at a standstill. Need to shake myself out of this, love my garden, beautiful new magnolia out at last.
So unfit struggling to walk now, unexercised back muscles scream at me when walking uphill. Can’t even visit my neighbours. Utterly devoid of anything, even posting here now and researching is an effort (who cares what I think), sinking into oblivion is really upsetting. Really trying to get up and go, but my fizzle is a very damp squib, and my presence has almost ‘got up and gone’. Age is a burden, as am I to my only child, under threat of illness due to vax, moving home right now, worried sick for them, daughter in law ill with autoimmune vax induced illness. Aaaaarrrggghhh!!!
Sorry, just offloaded loads, will try to do better tomorrow, clean a floor, wash a window etc, will write a list and be proud to tick off each item.
Thanks :muscle:

I have a lot of things to do as well! I just pick up things as I walk past and stuff will get done, piece by piece.

One of my trainers always said "movement is life" so we just need to get up and move! :)

When sitting and resting is time for working your mind and spirit as well!

[Bill Ryan]

Reading back, I recognise my withdrawal over the last couple of years. Totally devoid of motivation, but looking forward to doing stuff which is never done, total ostrich head attitude, negating responsibilities, not even wanting to leave the room, never mind the house. Not wanting to eat. Can’t sleep. Avoiding human contact. Housework piling up. Almost at a standstill. Need to shake myself out of this, love my garden, beautiful new magnolia out at last.
So unfit struggling to walk now, unexercised back muscles scream at me when walking uphill. Can’t even visit my neighbours. Utterly devoid of anything, even posting here now and researching is an effort (who cares what I think), sinking into oblivion is really upsetting. Really trying to get up and go, but my fizzle is a very damp squib, and my presence has almost ‘got up and gone’. Age is a burden, as am I to my only child, under threat of illness due to vax, moving home right now, worried sick for them, daughter in law ill with autoimmune vax induced illness. Aaaaarrrggghhh!!!
Sorry, just offloaded loads, will try to do better tomorrow, clean a floor, wash a window etc, will write a list and be proud to tick off each item.
Thanks :muscle::heart:

My very simple advice, if this seems to strike any kind of a chord:

Getting a few little things done really improves morale. Even tiny, tiny things, like replying to an email you received a week ago and which has been on your mind. Or cleaning the top of the stove. Or throwing a few things out that have been in the attic for years.

Just small, small things. Each little thing you do increases your energy a tiny bit. But it works, and that's the way to reverse the direction of all this.

And the same goes with exercise. I totally, totally understand the vicious circle of not feeling very fit, so not doing any exercise, then feeling even more unfit, very very gradually, week by week. That's a frog-in-the-pot problem. :bearhug:

The way to reverse that, as well, is what I did with Mara my dog after she had her leg surgery and she could hardly walk either. The first day, we went 100 yards, slowly, and then turned round. I made a marker on the turnaround fence post. The next day, we went 110 yards, and I moved the marker. And so on, gently and gradually upping the ante day by day. Now, a year and a half later, she's climbing high mountains again as if there'd never been a problem at all.

For those who'd very much appreciate a little specific support and would maybe like to share a bit more in a members-only section, do remember there's this thread:


The Support Thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116989-The-Support-Thread)


:grouphug:

[avid]

Thanks Bill, my home is clean but I am a minimalist of cleanlinest, every day and and every way I’m getting better and better - reminds me of Clouseau and the Pink Panther 5IvxnK3xZtg
Weather plays a great part in positivity, sunshine is amazing.
Yes, little and often is great. I am determined to tick those boxes, despite the weather.
Thanks for support from this wonderful community over so many years :heart:

[RunningDeer]

Sorry, just offloaded loads, will try to do better tomorrow, clean a floor, wash a window etc, will write a list and be proud to tick off each item.
Thanks :muscle:
Offload? Naw. That's one of the main reasons why I participate here. We're Family.
Avid, you're an important part of my Family. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/hug-two.gif



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[thepainterdoug]

Agreed Bill, completions!! even mini completions. Many of the things I do take lots of time. So washing the dishes, cleaning up, making correspondences with others, even my posts are a part of a completion process.
Sadly, eating a bag of cookies sometimes accompanies all.

I am optimistic that the Hunter laptop is going to spill into some kind of actionably reality.

watch from 2 min mark
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/video/2022/04/02/io-episode-109-exclusive-interview-with-jack-maxey-on-status-of-hunter-biden-laptop-investigation/



blessings all

[RunningDeer]

Bin waitin’ to add this. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/flirty-hearts.gif

It’s sitting on my desktop waiting for the right moment. Then I remembered any moment is the right one.


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[Mari]

onawah/ well said , good advice. i have been exhausted and just feel like staring at a wall. i tend to be a constant worker and Im giving myself a break. my thoughts are diffused and scattered and feel drained


Doug, don't worry about it...you feel like staring at a wall? I indulge.. and stare, trance-like at anything that gets in my way...the tall hedge (that needs clipping) in my back garden, the big tree in next door's yard, the mess I've made of putting the bins out monday morning, the coffee I've yet again spilled (fascinated at the mess), funny cloud formations....and yes, I happily indulge in the ogling of various walls as and when the whimsy takes me. Don't be put off. Its a healthy thing to do and transports one out of this sh**show even for a little while.

As a kid (12yrs) I well remember being the butt of classroom jokes when I became overwhelmed with the (seeming) stupidity of the rest of my classmates and their rowdyness and would turn my back on all of it, and face the wall at the back of the classroom and enter my own world. I didn't know why I had to do this at the time (I'm not autistic...I don't think?) but it was the only way I could cope. Go on and indulge..stare at that wall. 🤪

[onawah]

It's not just big CMEs which affect us (emotionally as well as mentally), but a series of small ones, which we have been undergoing recently.
See this thread for more details about recent events on the Sun, and how they can affect us:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages/page17
When I can feel that CME energy I meditate on the Sun, imagining it on a calm day, and that helps to even out my plummeting and/or erratic energy.

[Denise/Dizi]

The side effect of caring about the world as a whole... Exhaustion seems to be the side effect... You are not alone... It is 1PM on my first day off this week, and I am still in my jammies wondering if I should get up and do some housework.

Thank you Bill for noting some things that do help such as the vitamins and such, many lack key nutrients these days that can do a wonder of good for everything...

We are at a "tipping point" as you suggested, with mass media lying, and manipulating perceptions. The massive spread of information instantaneously, and upon more platforms that we couldn't even imagine even 30 years ago, much deliberate misinformation, and then the massive population explosions, adding to the situation, as each generation creates their own offspring.

I suppose the exhaustion is partly because I don't see humanity waking up to any degree that can help us in the future... Progress into anything more than a totalitarian control system, with armies to force it upon them if they don't willingly comply. And I don't see the population in mass, rising up to meet the challenge as fast as those perpetuating it grow in strength.

But I am not going to let that get me down. I try to remind myself daily that one at a time, we can make a difference, and to keep myself as one of those "One".. And share as much of it as I can, in hopes another "One" pops up, and another...

[onawah]

Impact of Solar Flares on Human Consciousness Sadhguru
29,306 views Jul 20, 2019
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130K subscribers.

(He doesn't say how he knows this, and doesn't address the years after the next 6 years, but he is bringing attention to the issue. )

"Sadhguru, renowned Yogi and Mystic, speaks about the predictions of a coming rise in consciousness. He responds that in the coming 6 years, dynamic changes will happen in the Solar Flares (sun spots). Whenever such changes happen, phenomenal changes happen in human consciousness. He adds, however that this is not a directed change. The sun spots will definitely create some kind of volatile energy. Any volatile situation is also a possibility to craft things the way we want it. Depending on how we make use of this, we can either rise or crash, says Sadhguru. If we can create enough people who have the focus and spiritual strength, human consciousness can definitely rise significantly."

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[Mari]

Quote: " Depending on how we make use of this, we can either rise or crash, says Sadhguru. If we can create enough people who have the focus and spiritual strength, human consciousness can definitely rise significantly." Unquote.

That's the thing. I'm really not sure whether we'll be able to get that tipping point going before Schwab et al has the whole world under the NWO spell. I base that on what I see - that so many people are completely unaware of the danger we're in, and if they were to take a peek, would probably dive right back under the covers.

[norman]

Quote: " Depending on how we make use of this, we can either rise or crash, says Sadhguru. If we can create enough people who have the focus and spiritual strength, human consciousness can definitely rise significantly." Unquote.

That's the thing. I'm really not sure whether we'll be able to get that tipping point going before Schwab et al has the whole world under the NWO spell. I base that on what I see - that so many people are completely unaware of the danger we're in, and if they were to take a peek, would probably dive right back under the covers.

I hear you loud and clear Mari.

My down time ( away from the cybernoise ) is more and more about making sure I "go out" the right way up.

It's up to everyone, individually, to make the best big picture sense of all this that they can. In my own evolving and growing big picture, this single lifetime is looking more and more like one little pixel of it.

[Mari]

Quote: " Depending on how we make use of this, we can either rise or crash, says Sadhguru. If we can create enough people who have the focus and spiritual strength, human consciousness can definitely rise significantly." Unquote.

That's the thing. I'm really not sure whether we'll be able to get that tipping point going before Schwab et al has the whole world under the NWO spell. I base that on what I see - that so many people are completely unaware of the danger we're in, and if they were to take a peek, would probably dive right back under the covers.

I hear you loud and clear Mari.

My down time ( away from the cybernoise ) is more and more about making sure I "go out" the right way up.

It's up to everyone, individually, to make the best big picture sense of all this that they can. In my own evolving and growing big picture, this single lifetime is looking more and more like one little pixel of it.

Never underestimate the power of the 'little pixel', as you say, to have a meaningful effect on the happenings in this big picture. :biggrin:
What I hang onto is this: that some great power, somewhere, has my back, (all our backs) and the knowing that I didn't incarnate on this rock to end up on my bloody knees.

[norman]

Quote: " Depending on how we make use of this, we can either rise or crash, says Sadhguru. If we can create enough people who have the focus and spiritual strength, human consciousness can definitely rise significantly." Unquote.

That's the thing. I'm really not sure whether we'll be able to get that tipping point going before Schwab et al has the whole world under the NWO spell. I base that on what I see - that so many people are completely unaware of the danger we're in, and if they were to take a peek, would probably dive right back under the covers.

I hear you loud and clear Mari.

My down time ( away from the cybernoise ) is more and more about making sure I "go out" the right way up.

It's up to everyone, individually, to make the best big picture sense of all this that they can. In my own evolving and growing big picture, this single lifetime is looking more and more like one little pixel of it.

Never underestimate the power of the 'little pixel', as you say, to have a meaningful effect on the happenings in this big picture. :biggrin:
What I hang onto is this: that some great power, somewhere, has my back, (all our backs) and the knowing that I didn't incarnate on this rock to end up on my bloody knees.

I'm not sure I understand what you said their, It could be in complete agreement with my own perspective or it could be a complete misunderstanding of my perspective. i.e., 'on my knees' and a 'hug' do not equate at all, in my perspective.

[DNA]

Wonder who is feeling this way?
I notice myself recoiling, pulling back and going within.
im not sure if its a giving up, but there is only so long one can go, chasing logic and common sense, feeling anyday that I will wake up from this dream, only to remain in it as it gets worse.

I am now down to just reading headlines and deleting. Im noticing my friends not responding to much anymore. They are doing this too.

i get notices on telegram from jerm warfare, asb military, 100 a day along with other messages from like minded friends. can't absorb

On Gab and Gettr im noticing less intensity, less participation or even little response to things that would have once been monumental

Bobolinski, Durham, Steel Dossier, russian collusion, bleached hard drives,missing biden laptop, porn photos released, e mails released,underage pics released, crack smoking, biolabs in ukraine, kindergardeners being brainwashed, clot shots dropping people, cruise ships with full breakouts of the double vaxxed, housewives now terrorists, no definition for a woman, fauci here then gone then back again, gates has new virus coming, fake news constantly , is the will smith slap real or staged, no one knows, green screen, crisis actors, loss of energy independance, just buy an electric car, eat lentils, food shortages a new reality and so on and on and on.

People only hear soundbites. Once its determined it supports their team, they respond yes, if not its totally dismissed.
Its all about comfort zones.
cannot share a counterpoint article because if the source threatens their comfort zone, its deleted.
we are all preaching to the choir. there is no bringing someone over, their is no togetherness, no comraderie, no harmony. america and its constitution is being bleached out and we just keep going, no checks or balances.

If any of what the bidens are displaying, had the trumps in its place, the child pics, the laptop,the crackpipe it would be earthshattering and a total scandal of the highest proportions. If Trump had the ukraine prosecutor fired, if trump sold uranium to russia, if trump had the classified e mails on his home server, and again if trump, on and on and on, shoe on the other foot,and so on the media would be in a frenzy.

no one goes to jail. no one is fired or prosecuted. clinton gets an 8000$ fine? really, think she can swing it?
biden says we need to get rid of putin and the whitehouse walks it back? who is the whitehouse? who??? pelousy? cliten? obomber? who is walking things back? I thought Joe was the whitehouse?

im tired and im sure so are you.
like him or hate him, now that hes gone , in 18 months we are now on the cusp of nuclear war. nothing makes sense, inlfation, prices, gas, EVERYTHING , and the people of this country are divided and manipulated like never before.

It's tough.
I'm going to add the woke politics to this.
I pride myself on red pilling folks when and wherever I can.
In real life, in day to day interactions.
At the gas station, in the grocery store, auto shop, flea market, restaurants and anywhere the moment moves me.

I'm losing my mojo.
Something about where we are at,,, it's as if we are past the warning zone.
Folks have now swam past the bouy.

Folks will either swim to safety, drawn or get eaten by sharks.

At work I've offended folks who have gone to corporate because SJWs over heard my conversations and have used the prevailing woke politics to shut me up.

I've been told to not enter into "controversial" conversations which is code for don't piss off the liberals.
So now there are folks you talk to and folks you say little more than hi and bye to and that is how "they" like it.

But on the grand scheme of things there is no helping folks.
The Christians seem the best prepared mentally to reach.
As such they are the folks I'm associating with more and more.
They might not understand some of the finer points but they understand the woke politics, the sex education in schools is preparation for pedophilia. They have aquired a healthy mistrust of the government and the medical communities as a whole.

The over educated seem to be the most brainwashed as they unquestioningly trust their time honored institutions.

Give me the hillbilly red neck over the masters in psychology any day.

[thepainterdoug]

DNA SAID/

"The over educated seem to be the most brainwashed as they unquestioningly trust their time honored institutions.

Give me the hillbilly red neck over the masters in psychology any day."

Now thats a quote DNA. THANKS

And that holds true regarding my falling out with 3 friends. they think they are so smart, they can't be shown, told or taught anything.

so I have adopted a position of silence, and we will just have to wait and see.

[Mari]

Quote: " Depending on how we make use of this, we can either rise or crash, says Sadhguru. If we can create enough people who have the focus and spiritual strength, human consciousness can definitely rise significantly." Unquote.

That's the thing. I'm really not sure whether we'll be able to get that tipping point going before Schwab et al has the whole world under the NWO spell. I base that on what I see - that so many people are completely unaware of the danger we're in, and if they were to take a peek, would probably dive right back under the covers.

I hear you loud and clear Mari.

My down time ( away from the cybernoise ) is more and more about making sure I "go out" the right way up.

It's up to everyone, individually, to make the best big picture sense of all this that they can. In my own evolving and growing big picture, this single lifetime is looking more and more like one little pixel of it.

Never underestimate the power of the 'little pixel', as you say, to have a meaningful effect on the happenings in this big picture. :biggrin:
What I hang onto is this: that some great power, somewhere, has my back, (all our backs) and the knowing that I didn't incarnate on this rock to end up on my bloody knees.

I'm not sure I understand what you said their, It could be in complete agreement with my own perspective or it could be a complete misunderstanding of my perspective. i.e., 'on my knees' and a 'hug' do not equate at all, in my perspective.


I'm in general agreement with you, Norman. Just adding my own perspective.

[Mari]

DNA quoted:

"The over educated seem to be the most brainwashed as they unquestioningly trust their time honored institutions.

Give me the hillbilly red neck over the masters in psychology any day."


So True. I thinks its because historically, the working class have always been downtrodden and have had to fight for their rights (in the UK, anyway) and we've developed a very healthy distrust of anything the Govt says/does, as a result. Those academics and 'professionals', as you state have sold into the system, which they know supports them (you don't bite the hand that feeds you!) They belong to institutions which totally brainwashes them.
I live next to a Council (social housing) estate and a helluva lot of souls there are very awake indeed, as witnessed by the large numbers of colourful 'awake' info leaflets that are regularly posted on fences, lampposts, etc, to name a little example.

[onawah]

More evidence of how the Sun's activity affects human health:
http://www.gejournal.net/index.php/IJSSIR/article/view/295/264

Excerpts posted here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1492038&viewfull=1#post1492038

[wondering]

On the other hand, generalizations seldom hold much water. I have a Master in Social Work, and am painfully awake. One of my dear, pretty much ex- friends has the same degree. When I mentioned to her over a year ago that there were children being held and trafficked, she looked at me incredulously, and said, "if that was true, I would know it"....I was so stunned I had no response. I could go on. Another friend is a nurse who worked in Infecrion Control in her last position before retiring. I don't think she has ever questioned the definition of a "case" of Covid, which has pretty much allowed the whole insane scenario to continue on and on. So much depends on the questioning mind of the individual.
I, too, am pretty much in the silent stage. I just let it go by and don't bother responding at all. Absolutely no point and alienation is the result.

[norman]

On the other hand, generalizations seldom hold much water. I have a Master in Social Work, and am painfully awake. One of my dear, pretty much ex- friends has the same degree. When I mentioned to her over a year ago that there were children being held and trafficked, she looked at me incredulously, and said, "if that was true, I would know it"....I was so stunned I had no response. I could go on. Another friend is a nurse who worked in Infecrion Control in her last position before retiring. I don't think she has ever questioned the definition of a "case" of Covid, which has pretty much allowed the whole insane scenario to continue on and on. So much depends on the questioning mind of the individual.
I, too, am pretty much in the silent stage. I just let it go by and don't bother responding at all. Absolutely no point and alienation is the result.

Yea, I even sense some threat, that if I slip up and say the wrong thing to the wrong persons around here I might be in real 'trouble' . . . there's even a possibility that there could be outbreaks of crazy gangs ( think nazi etc ) when the truth really tumbles out during a societal crash. Some people just won't take it well, and become dangerous to the rest of us, I think.

Maybe, if we're all sharing a similar feeling that the mojo is gone as DNA says, it's telling us to shut up, for our own safety, for a while. At this point, the situation is dropping like a rock.

[RunningDeer]

On the other hand, generalizations seldom hold much water. I have a Master in Social Work, and am painfully awake.
{snip}


Thanks for adding this, Diane. I’ve lost count of how many categories I fit into now all because of life choices, opinions and career paths. It’s beginning to feel like I’m one of the bad guys.

Generalizations make me shiver. The same for when people pigeonhole me. They forget it’s based on their perceptions which often are far off the mark. I remind myself not to take it personally. But here’s the but… the acceptance game of who, what, how, and why has narrowed (by a lot).

I remind myself it’s the energies bombing earth, the Schumann Resonance, the alignments, and all that rot. I fear that soon those will only turn into weightless excuses. Then what? If one has the need to judge, then judge me by my character.



"A little wine with that cheese, RunningDeer?" http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/laugh-big-smile-teeth.gif

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[Sérénité]

Phew, not just me then!!!

I’ve been feeling like this for the last month or so…totally burnt out physically and mentally.
I’ve had to slow right down and centre. Switch off from everything negative and protect my energy.
But also feeling the need to clear out the old and start anew…feels like big changes are needed but I’m only managing very small baby steps. But slow and steady wins the race right?

I’ve stopped sharing info and involving myself in what’s going on cos it doesn’t seem to be achieving anything other than sucking my joy now. And I don’t want to share anything negative and be a sucker of other peoples joy around me too.

I think I’ve reached the point looking around me that I’ve made peace with the fact that it’s too late now.
Maybe the people that just don’t get it, aren’t meant too.

It’s been such an intense couple of years, so many have been in some form of survival mode it’s bound to have taken its toll, both personally and collectively.

It feels like a massive social shift is underway.

Personally I feel the urge to scrap everything and start afresh, focusing only on things that really matter.

Maybe something in the stars is causing this too.
This was a really interesting watch that I found…
Pam Gregory talks about the new moon in Aries from 1st April and the once in a lifetime alignments that are currently underway, that signify a huge shift in consciousness.

As she describes it, we are “going up an octave, spiritually”…

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Love and hugs to everyone :grouphug:

[Mari]

On the other hand, generalizations seldom hold much water. I have a Master in Social Work, and am painfully awake.
{snip}


Thanks for adding this, Diane. I’ve lost count of how many categories I fit into now all because of life choices, opinions and career paths. It’s beginning to feel like I’m one of the bad guys.

Generalizations make me shiver. The same for when people pigeonhole me. They forget it’s based on their perceptions which often are far off the mark. I remind myself not to take it personally. But here’s the but… the acceptance game of who, what, how, and why has narrowed (by a lot).

I remind myself it’s the energies bombing earth, the Schumann Resonance, the alignments, and all that rot. I fear that soon those will only turn into weightless excuses. Then what? If one has the need to judge, then judge me by my character.



"A little wine with that cheese, RunningDeer?" http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/laugh-big-smile-teeth.gif

https://i.imgur.com/aRN5e9C.jpg


Running Deer, true - people will always view you through their own filters - it's never personal. If they don't 'like' you its because they see something in you that reminds them in turn of a trait in themselves, which they are uncomfortable with and don't want look at. We're all mirrors of each other. You'll find that those who are in a mental 'straightjacket' of sorts will find things to criticize you with if you are a free-spirit because you are reminding them of the prison they live in. Its mostly unconscious of course, buts its the root cause of finger -pointing.

[RunningDeer]

Running Deer, true - people will always view you through their own filters - it's never personal. If they don't 'like' you its because they see something in you that reminds them in turn of a trait in themselves, which they are uncomfortable with and don't want look at. We're all mirrors of each other. You'll find that those who are in a mental 'straightjacket' of sorts will find things to criticize you with if you are a free-spirit because you are reminding them of the prison they live in. Its mostly unconscious of course, buts its the root cause of finger -pointing.
Great points, Mari, and thanks for the helpful reminder. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/wave-hi2.gif

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[wondering]

I can't remember a time when I have felt more burnt out, exhausted and lacking in energy or enthusiasm. I just cancelled a friend coming for Easter because the thought of having to come up with a menu, shopping and cooking seemed undoable, even if it was a very simple menu. I can barely read any of the "uplifting" articles from my favorite websites. It seems totally redundant and mostly meaningless. Any additional task that I wasn't expecting seems too much. I am filled with resentment and fatigue. I do look forward to the weather warming up so I can be outside and breathe in fresh air, chemtrails and all which are back in abundance. Maybe if we have a deluvian occurrence in this part of the US, near the Geeat Lakes, I wouldn't even mind very much. I am grateful that I don't seem to be the only one in such a funk....

[Dickrock]

Its all just so tiresome
Nothing ever happens
2 more weeks

[thepainterdoug]

As i go across the news threads, as more seems to intensify, more seems to be very evident and even close to things tipping such as Durham on clintons, the hunter mess and all, I equally see less outrage, less participation, , just a weary and half hearted reaction and response to things people should be rallying behind in solidarity
People are tired. People are beaten down. there are no arrests, no consequences for things that would put each and eveyone one of us in jail for life

I follow Scott Ritter, weapons inspector during Iraq war. He was just suspended from twitter. The truth is no longer welcome in America

we need divine intervention. Im afraid its out of our hands. Perhaps it always has been

[Tyy1907]

We're being increasingly beaten down by design. This why our life lines are needed more than ever. Funny how we learn these truths close to a breaking point. Story of my life!

[thepainterdoug]

TYY1907

lets remember your quote attached to your post.

and let me add/

i have about 2000 followers on F Book. I only keep it to psot my art.

I often get about 50- 100 comments and acknowledgements on a post

yesterday for a change,I posted something on G M's electric vehicle from years ago.The GM Impact made in 1993

under the post I made the comment that an electric vehicle takes twice the resources of a fuel car when assessed from source to ground. This is actually true.
btw/ gm recalled them all and crushed them. the people owners loved them and were pissed

guess what, maybe 5 people acknowledged the post.
man people are scared! scared to discuss, scared to comment or be wrong.
we are a frightened bunch

[Tyy1907]

TYY1907

lets remember your quote attached to your post.

and let me add/

i have about 2000 followers on F Book. I only keep it to psot my art.

I often get about 50- 100 comments and acknowledgements on a post

yesterday for a change,I posted something on G M's electric vehicle from years ago.The GM Impact made in 1993

under the post I made the comment that an electric vehicle takes twice the resources of a fuel car when assessed from source to ground. This is actually true.
btw/ gm recalled them all and crushed them. the people owners loved them and were pissed

guess what, maybe 5 people acknowledged the post.
man people are scared! scared to discuss, scared to comment or be wrong.
we are a frightened bunch

Thanks Doug I remind myself of that often :)

Everywhere you look they're putting out the World war 3, apocalypse programming, people can't get away from it. No wonder people are scared.

[Agape]

Maybe just “Don’t give up before the final”. Exhaustion always sets in , even if you are on lonely path in the middle of nowhere. Divine intervention ? Maybe just drag yourself to the next chai shop.
Or find shade at that big boulder and rest. Once you’re done with the whole thing you’re done. God has made you just right, no worries.

I was disconnected from both phone and net for almost two weeks recently, probably after long time ( unless it was 16 years).
The point is, I could not get to recharge immediately and did not want to even see more bloody news and things going on, I’ve consumed a portion of Google servers through the last 16 years anyway and I like my mind and memory serving me better.

For sure it helped to “take down the vibe” and passed through several levels of exhaustion all of which is artificial and not all is over but that’s how it naturally ends up.

It’s freaky either way around because most people around have about zero idea what this means, they’ve never been through so much education or information processing in their lives, they’re in the “physical world” and have own range of problems but the level of consciousness is perfectly synchronistic with topics discussed here and globally which they seldom also realize.

Some things people don’t get quite yet ...

the propagation of “breeding programs” for example, along with alcohol , naturopathy and soul&yoga therapy clubs , many people -both men and women- are not “ill” , more seem to be “ill of desire” , as if some kind of demon has taken over the civilization, not real but vain and careless, the demon of money and selling the soul and body, for the best performance or being the best of the breed.

This much of reality of today’s mindsets taken by the “force” of lowness but so many of us resist.

Giving in to any of the above turned too easy now.

Even waving it off it still comes around and hits your best friends and the next day you see them walking off and they come back drunk or/and oblivious of their resolve , mostly just full of some new/old anger. New but ancient , the deeper it goes, as if the “beast” never gave up biting and dragging new victims in, one by one if necessary though it definitely prefers group settings and gatherings.


There are two options left at the end : forget yourself and turn self in to feed their hunger or recall your (higher) self and leave their grill bar.


Find the next vegan cafe and duck down.


See you there, metaphorically 🍵

[Mari]

I can't remember a time when I have felt more burnt out, exhausted and lacking in energy or enthusiasm. I just cancelled a friend coming for Easter because the thought of having to come up with a menu, shopping and cooking seemed undoable, even if it was a very simple menu. I can barely read any of the "uplifting" articles from my favorite websites. It seems totally redundant and mostly meaningless. Any additional task that I wasn't expecting seems too much. I am filled with resentment and fatigue. I do look forward to the weather warming up so I can be outside and breathe in fresh air, chemtrails and all which are back in abundance. Maybe if we have a deluvian occurrence in this part of the US, near the Geeat Lakes, I wouldn't even mind very much. I am grateful that I don't seem to be the only one in such a funk....


You certainly aren't the only one. I feel just like you. I'm feeling rubbish too, because I've had to cancel close family coming down to see me for a week in the summer (for the 2nd year) I'm so burnt out, but that I can cope with if I'm left alone to manage my day to day activities on my own terms - and that's easy because I'm retired. Just can't bear the thought of having to 'be there' for family, on a physical, emotional and spiritual level. Its an utterly 'selfish' way of being (I have been reminded of it, often by a close relative) but I have to practice extreme self-care if I'm going to pull through these energies that are bombarding the planet at the moment.

[Mari]

TYY1907

lets remember your quote attached to your post.

and let me add/

i have about 2000 followers on F Book. I only keep it to psot my art.

I often get about 50- 100 comments and acknowledgements on a post

yesterday for a change,I posted something on G M's electric vehicle from years ago.The GM Impact made in 1993

under the post I made the comment that an electric vehicle takes twice the resources of a fuel car when assessed from source to ground. This is actually true.
btw/ gm recalled them all and crushed them. the people owners loved them and were pissed

guess what, maybe 5 people acknowledged the post.
man people are scared! scared to discuss, scared to comment or be wrong.
we are a frightened bunch

Thanks Doug I remind myself of that often :)

Everywhere you look they're putting out the World war 3, apocalypse programming, people can't get away from it. No wonder people are scared.


None of that programming comes anywhere near me and I'm certainly not fazed. It's easy to 'get away' from it...just unplug from msm. Know that its all fear-porn, designed to lower our consciousness. I honestly don't have a problem with what they're putting out there, but I DO have a problem with the fact that so many are buying into this...now, that IS scary.

[Mari]

I can't remember a time when I have felt more burnt out, exhausted and lacking in energy or enthusiasm. I just cancelled a friend coming for Easter because the thought of having to come up with a menu, shopping and cooking seemed undoable, even if it was a very simple menu. I can barely read any of the "uplifting" articles from my favorite websites. It seems totally redundant and mostly meaningless. Any additional task that I wasn't expecting seems too much. I am filled with resentment and fatigue. I do look forward to the weather warming up so I can be outside and breathe in fresh air, chemtrails and all which are back in abundance. Maybe if we have a deluvian occurrence in this part of the US, near the Geeat Lakes, I wouldn't even mind very much. I am grateful that I don't seem to be the only one in such a funk....


Hello Wondering. You have sent me a PM, which I was in the process of replying to you just now, when my laptop crashed. :facepalm: I have tried to retrieve your message and my reply to it, to continue but I can't find it! Have gone into my 'profile' but it wasn't there. I have to take laptop this afternoon to be repaired anyway, so, If I get it back, I will have another look later on today. Apologies.

[wondering]

Bummer, Mari. I hope your laptop is easily fixed. We'll catch up later! 😁, Diane

[Bill Ryan]

Hello Wondering. You have sent me a PM, which I was in the process of replying to you just now, when my laptop crashed. :facepalm: I have tried to retrieve your message and my reply to it, to continue but I can't find it! Have gone into my 'profile' but it wasn't there. I have to take laptop this afternoon to be repaired anyway, so, If I get it back, I will have another look later on today. Apologies.Mod note from Bill:

Mari, Hi there, and I'm very sorry that happened! :bearhug:

But laptop crash or not, any received PM should still be in your Avalon inbox. It's stored on the Avalon database, not on your computer. If it can't be found, wondering's PM will still be in her Sent Items folder, and she can readily resend it.

:flower: :focus:

[Bubu]

On the macro solar flares and the likes influnce behavior. On the micro its our attitude or the way we interact. Did somonee said above that the most caring people are the most exhausted or something to that effect? Do caring is a baggage? I domt think so but too much of it is. Here is how to lnow when it is too much. If the the care extends beyond the moment of doimg it no longer is care it is worry and its aburden. on this forum many said "go inside" or something similar. As Mari put it "go ahead indulge in your little world". The moment we buy into the things or shows that is put in front of us we are drawn out of our little world. Outside of this LW we are experiencing 3D disconmected from support of source and therefore exhausting. For everyones good i advice to disconnect from all this drama and be in your LW. Just look at the children who seem to be in their LW all the time. To the relgiuos Jesus put it, be born again be like a child. So who cares about all this drama that sorrouds us? Certainly not the small kid. So the world is ending the human especies is banishing, who cares? Do care but not too much the first sign of discomfort disconnect immediately. That is why it is important to have a habit of quite time. If you notice difficulty in getting into that peace zone get out of the dramas and get into your little worlds

[Mari]

Hello Wondering. You have sent me a PM, which I was in the process of replying to you just now, when my laptop crashed. :facepalm: I have tried to retrieve your message and my reply to it, to continue but I can't find it! Have gone into my 'profile' but it wasn't there. I have to take laptop this afternoon to be repaired anyway, so, If I get it back, I will have another look later on today. Apologies.Mod note from Bill:

Mari, Hi there, and I'm very sorry that happened! :bearhug:

But laptop crash or not, any received PM should still be in your Avalon inbox. It's stored on the Avalon database, not on your computer. If it can't be found, wondering's PM will still be in her Sent Items folder, and she can readily resend it.

:flower: :focus:


Thanks Bill, Got it sorted now. Another 'symptom' of these times is the state of panic that can ensue when we 'lose' stuff and never look for the obvious ways to find it..:blushing:

[Tyy1907]

On the other hand, generalizations seldom hold much water. I have a Master in Social Work, and am painfully awake.
{snip}


Thanks for adding this, Diane. I’ve lost count of how many categories I fit into now all because of life choices, opinions and career paths. It’s beginning to feel like I’m one of the bad guys.

Generalizations make me shiver. The same for when people pigeonhole me. They forget it’s based on their perceptions which often are far off the mark. I remind myself not to take it personally. But here’s the but… the acceptance game of who, what, how, and why has narrowed (by a lot).

I remind myself it’s the energies bombing earth, the Schumann Resonance, the alignments, and all that rot. I fear that soon those will only turn into weightless excuses. Then what? If one has the need to judge, then judge me by my character.



"A little wine with that cheese, RunningDeer?" http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/laugh-big-smile-teeth.gif

https://i.imgur.com/aRN5e9C.jpg

I remind myself often we're all giants just for signing up to come here. One of the hardest incarnational tours of duty is planet earth.

[Mari]

On the other hand, generalizations seldom hold much water. I have a Master in Social Work, and am painfully awake.
{snip}


Thanks for adding this, Diane. I’ve lost count of how many categories I fit into now all because of life choices, opinions and career paths. It’s beginning to feel like I’m one of the bad guys.

Generalizations make me shiver. The same for when people pigeonhole me. They forget it’s based on their perceptions which often are far off the mark. I remind myself not to take it personally. But here’s the but… the acceptance game of who, what, how, and why has narrowed (by a lot).

I remind myself it’s the energies bombing earth, the Schumann Resonance, the alignments, and all that rot. I fear that soon those will only turn into weightless excuses. Then what? If one has the need to judge, then judge me by my character.



"A little wine with that cheese, RunningDeer?" http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/laugh-big-smile-teeth.gif

https://i.imgur.com/aRN5e9C.jpg

I remind myself often we're all giants just for signing up to come here. One of the hardest incarnational tours of duty is planet earth.


Spot on. But I do have a hard time with the notion that I actually signed up for all this BS. We are supposed to be the 'strongest of the strong'. Yeah, right. :HELP!:

[wondering]

I don't think strong people look at themselves and say, "man, am I strong". I think we are focused on "keep on keeping on" and it is this persistence and resilience that makes others consider us strong. We just know what's our next task to do, grit our teeth, and do it. But underlying that is a strong belief in goodness and a desire to help that goodness along. Who, in their right mind, (which we currently are not) would turn down that chance? So I do think we signed up for it, but we sure had a better perspective on it then than we do now.

[thepainterdoug]

"I don't think strong people look at themselves and say, "man, am I strong". I think we are focused on "keep on keeping on" and it is this persistence and resilience that makes others consider us strong. "

well said Wondering. thank you

[Dorjezigzag]

I’ve made peace with the fact that it’s too late now

Serenite has summed it up with this quote. Although if we are honest this was always inevitable. Of course God will win in the end, but this isn't any triumphant egotistical victory. This is just the long hard honest journey towards the truth.

[Satori]

I don't think strong people look at themselves and say, "man, am I strong". I think we are focused on "keep on keeping on" and it is this persistence and resilience that makes others consider us strong. We just know what's our next task to do, grit our teeth, and do it. But underlying that is a strong belief in goodness and a desire to help that goodness along. Who, in their right mind, (which we currently are not) would turn down that chance? So I do think we signed up for it, but we sure had a better perspective on it then than we do now.

Indeed. As we used to say in the Army: keep your chin out, your head up, your shoulders back, and keep putting one foot in front of the other. I have come to believe that most of us are stronger and more resilient than we think. Adversity tests our strength.

[onawah]

I think we ARE that divine intervention! :angel: :heart:
Just lots of peaks and valleys to surf...
https://images.pexels.com/photos/390051/surfer-wave-sunset-the-indian-ocean-390051.jpeg?auto=compress&cs=tinysrgb&w=1260&h=750&dpr=1

Also see: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113646-Gigi-Young-Talks&p=1492565&viewfull=1#post1492565


As i go across the news threads, as more seems to intensify, more seems to be very evident and even close to things tipping such as Durham on clintons, the hunter mess and all, I equally see less outrage, less participation, , just a weary and half hearted reaction and response to things people should be rallying behind in solidarity
People are tired. People are beaten down. there are no arrests, no consequences for things that would put each and eveyone one of us in jail for life

I follow Scott Ritter, weapons inspector during Iraq war. He was just suspended from twitter. The truth is no longer welcome in America

we need divine intervention. Im afraid its out of our hands. Perhaps it always has been

[wondering]

I agree, Onawah, we are the human face of Divine Intervention. I don't think we are the ONLY Divine Interveners, but we may be the only Divine Interveners in human bodies on our Mother Earth.

[onawah]

Reading some from this threads might be appropriate now...
On Depression: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104077-Depression&p=1245298&viewfull=1#post1245298

This is a quote from that thread which might be helpful:

Tibetan Lama Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche wrote in one of his books-I think it was Meditation in Action--that it is actually when we have exhausted ourselves through struggle that we finally catch a glimpse of what acceptance and surrender really are.

Source: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104077-Depression&p=1476636&viewfull=1#post1476636

And possibly this thread too, about Archon Attacks: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117558-Archon-Attacks&p=1476574&viewfull=1#post1476574

It may seem a long time ago now from when those threads were started, but time is a very iffy thing... :clock:

[Michel Leclerc]

Maybe just “Don’t give up before the final”.

(...)

Find the next vegan cafe and duck down.

See you there, metaphorically 🍵

Great text Agape, thank you. There is one passage I do not understand (both language-wise and meaning-wise) – could you clarify it for me? :

“Some things people don’t get quite yet ...

the propagation of “breeding programs” for example, along with alcohol , naturopathy and soul&yoga therapy clubs ,”

Thank you in advance.

Michel

[Tyy1907]

I’ve made peace with the fact that it’s too late now

Serenite has summed it up with this quote. Although if we are honest this was always inevitable. Of course God will win in the end, but this isn't any triumphant egotistical victory. This is just the long hard honest journey towards the truth.

We are manifestations of God on this earth so to say God will win but it's too late makes no sense. We failed our mission, unless we muster enough divine support (figure out how to actually invite God to intervene).

[onawah]

Even if all else fails, Nature is going to clean up a lot of the mess and foil much of the elite's plans via the magnetic pole reversal.
That may be coming sooner than expected, from what some of the recent data is showing.
It's certainly not a cheerful thought, but if we can make peace with it, that may act as fortification for whatever else that can still be done which is useful.

There will be survivors to create the new paradigm, and I don't think they will have to start from scratch.
(Nor will they be without help.)
We've come too far for that, and Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers is confident of that, as I'm sure a lot of other people are who are already taking what steps they can, and who have been doing so for some time now.

There will no doubt be elite survivors too, but they are going to have to face even worse difficulties, because they were counting on getting everything their way, which will not be the case.
And they wouldn't be in such a big hurry now if they didn't already suspect as much.

One thing each of us can do is refrain from creating more loosh.
Step #1 is staying out of fear and hopelessness.
Even if that's all a person can do, it's important, and it's something!!
From there, more becomes possible.

The great thing about really knowing what you are dealing with is that it makes it much easier to stay grounded.
When your energy is grounded, you can be a lot more effective with whatever you are doing.
It may take some reorganizing of your inner world, but it can be done! :nod:

[DNA]

Even if all else fails, Nature is going to clean up a lot of the mess and foil much of the elite's plans via the magnetic pole reversal.
That may be coming sooner than expected, from what some of the recent data is showing.
It's certainly not a cheerful thought, but if we can make peace with it, that may act as fortification for whatever else that can still be done which is useful.

There will be survivors to create the new paradigm, and I don't think they will have to start from scratch.
(Nor will they be without help.)
We've come too far for that, and Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers is confident of that, as I'm sure a lot of other people are who are already taking what steps they can, and who have been doing so for some time now.

There will no doubt be elite survivors too, but they are going to have to face even worse difficulties, because they were counting on getting everything their way, which will not be the case.
And they wouldn't be in such a big hurry now if they didn't already suspect as much.

One thing each of us can do is refrain from creating more loosh.
Step #1 is staying out of fear and hopelessness.
Even if that's all a person can do, it's important, and it's something!!
From there, more becomes possible.

The great thing about really knowing what you are dealing with is that it makes it much easier to stay grounded.
When your energy is grounded, you can be a lot more effective with whatever you are doing.
It may take some reorganizing of your inner world, but it can be done! :nod:

Your perspective is appreciated.
But,,,
I say let it out.
That's what Doug created this thread for.
Air it out. Get this of your chest. Talk about it.
Because if you bottle it up you create repressed anxiety shadow monster loosh.
LoL I kid I kid.
People are going to feel what they are going to feel.
Encourage folks to express themselves in whatever manner they may.
We could all use a shot of bourbon a cigarette and a seat at a table of our peers to talk about what ails us.
It's as much of a curse as it is a blessing to know what is really going on right now.
With just about everybody we know sticking their heads in the sand regarding all of this I thank God there is a place where folks are mature enough to acknowledge the situation for what it is and share their story and listen to the stories of others.

[onawah]

Absolutely. I totally agree, DNA. I don't think anything should be bottled up either.
It does help a lot to know what is really going on too, I think, so at least we don't feel like we are going insane (the way the rest of the world seems to have done) without really understanding why.
Looking back at what I thought was really going on in the world when I first joined Avalon, I feel like I am an entirely different person now, and a lot crazier person than I was before, in the view of some, and at times I have felt pretty mixed up.
That's not a bad thing though--this time around has presented us with huge opportunities for growth :grouphug: as well as for identity crisis.:fie::wacko2:
But the latter can turn into the former if we stick with it.:muscle:

Here's a new extra update from Ben Davidson that just got posted:
Signs of the Pole Shift | Magnetic Field, Lightning, People
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"Signs of the earth's magnetic reversal, solar system shift, and galactic magnetic reversal are all everywhere. Here, we discuss recent updates on lightning and the effect on human mental stability.

Note: In Chapter 6 of Weatherman's Guide to the Sun there is an abundant list of solar-health connections from scientific journals - they include both physiological and psychological effects, and ALL are being amplified as earth's magnetic field weakens!"
Recommended: Canadian Prepper
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfgtuaUadGgOA-91geQ8Qog
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Your perspective is appreciated.
But,,,
I say let it out.
That's what Doug created this thread for.
Air it out. Get this of your chest. Talk about it.
Because if you bottle it up you create repressed anxiety shadow monster loosh.
LoL I kid I kid.
People are going to feel what they are going to feel.
Encourage folks to express themselves in whatever manner they may.
We could all use a shot of bourbon a cigarette and a seat at a table of our peers to talk about what ails us.
It's as much of a curse as it is a blessing to know what is really going on right now.
With just about everybody we know sticking their heads in the sand regarding all of this I thank God there is a place where folks are mature enough to acknowledge the situation for what it is and share their story and listen to the stories of others.

[DNA]

I feel you Natalie
I'm a changed person since I've joined
I'm with you about pole reversals and the Edgar Cayce stuff.
The Billy Meir stuff is looking more and more likely as well.
I couldn't believe it when the Hilary/Obama moves in Libya/Syria started creating this Muslim refugee thing in Europe.
I'm watching it in real time in awe of Billy Meir.
And then you see the tactical genius of it.
Meier stated that Europe, especially France and the UK would be taken over from within by Muslim extremists.
You can see how they want the new one world religion to be Islam.
Meier never mentioned it was done through manipulation of migration by the globalists.
But you can't argue that Meier saw this coming since the seventies.
As well as a civil war in the USA.
As far as Edgar Cayce he said WWII would be well under way before the shift.
My guess is, it's because of the earth quake weapons that are unleashed.
And I don't think I can give enough credit to Bill's interview with Jane Burgermeister.
Jane was so commanding, such an intellectual and a level of refinement and cultural sophistication that rivaled any royal monarch.
Jane's authenticity was unquestionable.
Her message to me was so important.

Her message wasn't that vaccines might kill you.

Her message was much more to the point.
Her message was "they are going to try and kill you with vaccines".

My guardian angel gave me two more punches in this three punch combination.
1. Jane Burgermeister
2. Kevin Trudeau infomercial guy
3. Val Valerian and his matrix 2 book

Those three sources hitting me in the same week with the unmistakable flavor of angelic synchronicity in the air.

Almost as if I could hear a Jane Roberts over soul seven conversation in the background asking "do you think he's got it this time?". "Yeah he's got it finally".

It does me good for my nuclear family but little else.
That's a burden.
Knowing there were so many family and friends who's mindset you couldn't change.

[onawah]

It's not easy, that's for sure.
Sometimes the truth just comes in little increments, other times it just wallops you.

People can't wake up until they're ready, no matter how convining the arguments. :sad:
That's just how it is and it's a hard one to accept, but somehow we have to get our heads around that one, too.
It seems somtimes like Acceptance is at least 50% of the whole challenge.



It does me good for my nuclear family but little else.
That's a burden.
Knowing there were so many family and friends who's mindset you couldn't change.

[Ernie Nemeth]

As a state of mind exhaustion is exhausting. It feeds on itself.

It is an evil tactic used to great advantage by our enemies.

It is the job of all lightworkers to hold the light - to counter the evil narrative. They expouse the cult of death, decay, and depravity. We must remember the truth of life. The truth is the beauty, the radiance, the love. Truth is art. Just as science is actually the art of coherent thought.

Life is art. Our tapestry is our lives lived.

Each one is a masterpiece.

[Mercedes]

Hello to all, it has been two years if not many more (like 13) on a growing crescendo of anxiety and anticipation from all the information, misinformation up to a point of so much pain that it can be paralyzing, but never with enough numbness to let you just exist without care. Many days I just want to get out to the street and start screaming to random people, my poor daugther whose almost always with me keeps an eye on my emotions and reminds me to keep myself in check. Still I try to tell the people (some) what little I can to try and spark a light in their brains. But many times it just goes without even being acknowledged. Exhausted? Quite. And have become very intolerant, impatient some days even silly things bring me to tears. When I saw this thread I thought well I'm in good company. I don't have the capacity to say something profound and inspirational but Ernie Nemeth's words say it well
Life is art. Our tapestry is our lives lived.

Each one is a masterpiece.

[avid]

Screaming in the streets - soo tempting. Wake up wake up!! Folk only bothering about the middle of Lidl supermarket nonsense, as mind-numbing reality is sooo horrific. Therefore, we are aware, but just sit back and sigh, almost defeated. No reasonable health services, no reliable food sources, money issues, social support virtually non-existant, folk suiciding daily with little fanfare, folk dying without treatment, trying to cope without being a burden, makes me furious that we should be so downtrodden.
We must fight back and be stoical, logic should prevail 👍👍

[pyrangello]

Persistence pays off eventually, It gets exhausting , I get it, when you get filled up with anxiety, step back , take some you time, regroup , and dive back in , there are those on the fence that are waking up. There are those that will never wake up, taking the lead and creating a path gives an out for people to follow who are searching for the truth. And they will .

If you encounter someone who is filled with negative energy or a vampire of positive energy steer away from these people, they will suck you dry. This is s time to put your shield up and keep moving forward.

[thepainterdoug]

Mercedes, regarding Earnie's comment. " life is art, our tapestry is our lives lived, each one a masterpiece"

agreed, its a beautiful quote at first glance, however it has to be pondered and understood as applying to every life lived.

This has to equally apply to the most heinous and evil of human beings. It cant be for only the so called good. How do we come to terms with this?

In the NDE's that I study, it is made clear by many that there is no good or evil from the other sides perspective. Life is to be experienced.

One NDE person said our lives are the fingers or the universe reaching out for experience.

Experience aside from our earthly naming of these experiences as good or evil. Its hard to comprehend

[Ernie Nemeth]

In another thread I posted what could be considered the answer, Doug, to the observation that the most heinous and evil people paint a tapestry just as authentic as the most devote and pious...

We are confused about our identity.

We are not the dancer but the dance itself.

[Tyy1907]

Mercedes, regarding Earnie's comment. " life is art, our tapestry is our lives lived, each one a masterpiece"

agreed, its a beautiful quote at first glance, however it has to be pondered and understood as applying to every life lived.

This has to equally apply to the most heinous and evil of human beings. It cant be for only the so called good. How do we come to terms with this?

In the NDE's that I study, it is made clear by many that there is no good or evil from the other sides perspective. Life is to be experienced.

One NDE person said our lives are the fingers or the universe reaching out for experience.

Experience aside from our earthly naming of these experiences as good or evil. Its hard to comprehend

Reaching out for experience and expansion I've heard as well.

[Patient]

Either there is a slow wake up or my timing for interacting with people waking up is increasing.

Getting a few groceries yesterday I paid cash. And I said with a smile, "You still take cash right?"

An older gentleman behind me in line said something about people should use cash more and I said "yeah, we gotta slow down the A.I. and stuff." And then I echoed Catherine Austin Fitts' strategy of "Cash Fridays" and he smiled!

Exhaustion is hitting us from many sources, but now that the masks are off I find that many people are eager to talk - or maybe it's just me! Lol!

Everyone is feeling exhausted so it is easy to help by engaging people with a smile, or a simple "Hi! How are you?"

[Mercedes]

Mercedes, regarding Earnie's comment. " life is art, our tapestry is our lives lived, each one a masterpiece"

agreed, its a beautiful quote at first glance, however it has to be pondered and understood as applying to every life lived.

This has to equally apply to the most heinous and evil of human beings. It cant be for only the so called good. How do we come to terms with this?

In the NDE's that I study, it is made clear by many that there is no good or evil from the other sides perspective. Life is to be experienced.

One NDE person said our lives are the fingers or the universe reaching out for experience.

Experience aside from our earthly naming of these experiences as good or evil. Its hard to comprehend

Hi Doug, for me is quite hard to accept that to balance our life we must accept and embrace the dark within us, because I know no one is completely good or completely bad , but Im very much invested on knowing the truth, and it feels like a trap they've made for us to believe that one can go either way and so there are no bad choices, just experiences. No, I refuse to accept that, my brain cannot work around the fact that evil choices produce pain, suffering, horror and so much more, and we must believe that it is the universe's way of being, sorry no, I feel to much pain from what is happening to believe that it is just me not accepting the nature of our universe. I might be wrong, but I will not accept it. Thank you for your post though. :waving:

[Harmony]

Watching what is happening around us is hard to do without feeling overwhelmed sometimes. Perhaps what we are observing is what happens to the world are symptoms from choices made over a long period of time, not necessarily to be judged good or bad but more like consequences of the way the world is run.


I haven't found an answer to why the seemingly innocent must suffer along with the observable evil or darkness, whether people, animals or plants and the earth iself. Maybe it is a sign that there is a need for some kind of unity and care of the whole, the bigger picture, communication and integration on some level, cooperation, much like a healthy body would organise itself, each cell unique but working as a whole to move forward for the good of the whole body. Not as a forced way but a natural choice out of love and compassion for the whole.

[Tyy1907]

Mercedes, regarding Earnie's comment. " life is art, our tapestry is our lives lived, each one a masterpiece"

agreed, its a beautiful quote at first glance, however it has to be pondered and understood as applying to every life lived.

This has to equally apply to the most heinous and evil of human beings. It cant be for only the so called good. How do we come to terms with this?

In the NDE's that I study, it is made clear by many that there is no good or evil from the other sides perspective. Life is to be experienced.

One NDE person said our lives are the fingers or the universe reaching out for experience.

Experience aside from our earthly naming of these experiences as good or evil. Its hard to comprehend
Could think of it as aligned with love and not aligned with love.

I've also heard in NDE's that heaven feels way more real than the earth plane.

Cabal elites (ET's?)look very evil to us humans but to a light being there's compassion for all. They're simply misguided earth plane souls and anything is possible, anything is healable. But who will request healing for these lost souls?

What happens in the earth plane stays in the earth plane. We pick up where we left off in each incarnation.

To top it off, we have to find this all out on our own. Would be nice to know the ground rules upon entry lol

[onawah]

I think it's important to really get that what we resist, persists.
That's the trap the Darkness sets for us.
If we align ourselves with the Light, that's great, but if in that process we are also rejecting the Dark, we are actually giving it energy.
Staying in an accepting, neutral space is not feeding the Dark, because from that space, we can shine Light on it.
In that way, we remain in a balanced state, and we can progress more into the Light.
Embracing the Shadow doesn't mean that we glory in the Darkness.
It just means that we stop denying it, stop resisting it, and thereby we deny it our energy.
We can't realistically deny that it's there, but it loses its power over us if we aren't constantly battling with it.
Eventually we just subsume it into our inner Light simply by focusing on the Light, not getting caught up in the struggle of Light and Dark, which is the main characteristic of this plane of Opposites.
Then we can evolve to the next higher plane. :flower:

[Anchor]

Wonder who is feeling this way?

I notice myself recoiling, pulling back and going within.

Agree.

Really it is much better than forcing yourself to keep up with and listening to half baked propaganda designed to make you low, fearful, frustrated and unhappy. Also paying attention to the worst that the outer world currently has to offer is certainly not mandatory, in fact I recommend not doing very much of it.

So, for me these days I pay a lot more attention to my inner world and my vision for the world in which I live instead. I think it is reasonable to ignore that which does not relate to your immediate circumstances to the extent that you wish to do so. Occasionally you will feel called to engage, or some immediate situation may force it, but until then - let all that **** go.

Your being alive, being self aware, having an idea of what is good and taking the time to think things through, is of immense value to all of us.

Radiate Love!

The same is true for everyone here. We are one. Keep going!

[Bubu]

Mercedes, regarding Earnie's comment. " life is art, our tapestry is our lives lived, each one a masterpiece"
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agreed, its a beautiful quote at first glance, however it has to be pondered and understood as applying to every life lived.

This has to equally apply to the most heinous and evil of human beings. It cant be for only the so called good. How do we come to terms with this?

In the NDE's that I study, it is made clear by many that there is no good or evil from the other sides perspective. Life is to be experienced.

One NDE person said our lives are the fingers or the universe reaching out for experience.

Experience aside from our earthly naming of these experiences as good or evil. Its hard to comprehend

Reaching out for experience and expansion I've heard as well.
The wingmakers materials teaches that we are fragments of first source. Created for the purpose of expanding experience. Since we are of the same essence of first source that vibrates in high frequency we wont be able to exist in 3d which is quite dense and has a low vibe. Thus the human instrument is created so we the fragmented emtities can project a tiny bit of our conciousness in 3d
throug this instrument for the experience. And that the fragmentation cause all the onsecurities and fear that we are experiencing. Our goal is to realize and reconnect to first source whilst experiencing the 3d. Freewill is the gift bestowed upon us amd experience is the cargo we return.

[Delight]

I feel so unsure about what I am supposed to DO about what I hear. Yesterday it all just got so scary that I wept for a long time in fear. So, fear is always to be faced and dealt with in MY reality. I am not worried for me but the future and most of the time I feel trust in Good BUT then sometimes I doubt.

This horror has been going on so long with so much suffering at the hands of EVIL. I am watching this all day today and I feel connected with all the people standing up everywhere. If I can't be there, I send money and my attention. It helps me feel Good IS working in the world.

‘DEFEAT THE MANDATES’ LIVE FROM GRAND PARK April 10,2022 (https://thehighwire.com/watch/)

[thepainterdoug]

hi Mercedes, I hear you and feel the same.

all I was saying is that the quote regarding "our lives" as a tapestry has to include all our lives.
How could it just be good lives? where would the cutoff be? who would decide? Language is a barrier to understanding at times what cannot be explained.

I have only questions, and if answers, just for myself

[Patient]

I have been feeling odd today. Not enough to start a new thread - but it is not an exhaustion setting in.

Something else.

Kinda like as bit confused but not about anything specific. Just a weird day.

Anyone else?


*added* hoping tomorrow is good weather - I want to get out and feel the earth beneath my feet. Maybe that is what I need.

[thepainterdoug]

Patient, thats pretty much my everyday.

But I am learning to live with it.

keep going!

[Tyy1907]

They're in the business of bringing us down. It brings themselves down at the same time.

Only love will raise up the perpetrator and the victim. I'm seeing this love more every day. It keeps me going.

[Mercedes]

hi Mercedes, I hear you and feel the same.

all I was saying is that the quote regarding "our lives" as a tapestry has to include all our lives.
How could it just be good lives? where would the cutoff be? who would decide? Language is a barrier to understanding at times what cannot be explained.

I have only questions, and if answers, just for myself

Yes, I get you. We are all people having a life, and even their lives might well be masterpieces depicting the worst of art. It's just hard to justify the existing entities doing all what is possible to damage and kill whatever is good and beautiful in the rest of earth and humanity. I also accept I know almost nothing and it makes it even more overwhelming, and I might die and never get to know the reason for their existence. It feels like saying " see this? this is bad, don't do this" but all the while they get away with it. The option is up to us, instinctively we know what is good and bad. Oh well, we'll just have to endure and keep on doing what is best. Thank you all avalonians, just for being here, I love you all for your support.

[Olam]

Thanks everyone for the replies, it's great to see I am not alone with all this.
I have come to a point of not even knowing what I am supposed to do here in this life.

Now, just to be clear, I'm not suicidal , I wish to live this life fully, and I know that ending the journey short will only make me start over so I'm going nowhere. Now this is the problem, I feel I'm stuck here.
My 30 year career is over, I have 3 months of funds left, I have no motivation to start over.
Of course I can find some simple minimum wage job, but I'm not here to work and pay taxes.

So I have been asking God, universe, Jesus, all angels, deceased relatives, what is it that I am here for? ( Still have no clue but at least I could pay rent)!...lol
I have no tv so these people don't drain me out, but I'm an empath and I get burnt out just being outside around people.
Anyhow, there must be a reason for all this, all I hope is that I find out soon enough before I totally give up and live by the minute.
much love to everyone, let's see soon hopefully what's on the other side of this rubicon....

I say it's more exausting to figure out why I am here than trying to survive the month financially.

[raregem]

I haven't been on PA in awhile b/c of the shock (to me alone) of being bamboozled (?) by a member. This site has given me so much mental and spiritual growth that I am ready to be at one with the thoughts shared -regardless. I read about 20 posts from this thread and I am pushing back tears as I know this has been a hard road for us all to experience, overcome with our true selves intact. I love each and everyone of you.
I am tired, too.
Olam, I had an opportunity to dig in someones yard this week and I felt so good, at one with Source and nature. Planting for spring flowers! Remembering the joy and beauty of our own Spirit within. Sometimes I worry or wonder if I will be living under a bridge but I no longer stress about it. I know I will strive to feel peace within. That is what I have to share.
PainterDoug, you have given so much beauty and insight. Thank you.
Much love and peace for you. Hope these words are calming to all here. It has been a strange and difficult road to travel since it is foreign to our senses.
Listening to the birds right now, feeling the good in all of life.

[Ernie Nemeth]

My last post here is my art.

I feel so helpless in any normal way, almost in every way.

But I can tell you from my heart to yours, we will prevail!

Should I say more?

I have tried to be at peace with my fate for so long that I forget some have had it much better and are in shock at the turnaround. And I know the feeling but I have lived that for decades. My choice, though. That makes a difference.

For me, I see clearly the end result of this fiasco. It just surprises me how indoctrinated the majority are. I see it might take some time yet befors we see it turn around.

God will not be mocked. Nor will God leave us without succor. We are God's children - children of the sun. The sun will shine again I promise.

It is inevitable.

Bless us all.

[thepainterdoug]

Olam

well i suppose thats for each of us to figure out? whats our purpose here ?
but for my two cents, it may be something not obvious, not seen, and it can be something so small you would not know.

its easy to say the big football star knows his purpose, but then again , maybe not. perhaps its his big distraction from his puropse?

what if in the latter days of ones life, they said something to someones that so lifted their spirits that they decided to go on living and change the world? imagine that?

in the magical tapestry, your small thread could hold up the works!

usually our ego has us wanting to drive, be the winner , the one who garners attention and so on.

i think of the stone worker up high in the cathedral spire, carving a scene that no one will see.

remember, he who saves one life, save the world entire

see Fellinis La Strada. it is played out in this magnificant film

[Olam]

Olam

well i suppose thats for each of us to figure out? whats our purpose here ?
but for my two cents, it may be something not obvious, not seen, and it can be something so small you would not know.

its easy to say the big football star knows his purpose, but then again , maybe not. perhaps its his big distraction from his puropse?

what if in the latter days of ones life, they said something to someones that so lifted their spirits that they decided to go on living and change the world? imagine that?

in the magical tapestry, your small thread could hold up the works!

usually our ego has us wanting to drive, be the winner , the one who garners attention and so on.

i think of the stone worker up high in the cathedral spire, carving a scene that no one will see.

remember, he who saves one life, save the world entire

see Fellinis La Strada. it is played out in this magnificant film

Thank you for that.
In fact yoiu remind me that I do have these moments with people.
For example, in the last 3 weeks I have been supporting a homeless guy that I saw on the street.
The reason I reached out is that he had a sign that said please help me.
This is something I have always honoured. If anyone is humble enough to ask for help, I respond.
I know I have changed this man's life, if only for him to have awareness to take more care about his body.
This man was half dressed in the cold, needing methadone everyday, but with also a will to get out of the situation.

Anyhow, thanks for reminding me.
Somehow though this is not enough for me...

Thanks RareGem for the insight.
I don't garden but i visit a family of Cedar trees daily where I do my Chigong.
These trees remind me of the mountains surrounding the village of Pisac in Peru.
Very powerful motherly love full of compassion.

[thepainterdoug]

Olam I understand it may not be enough for you. But your story isnt over. Your helping the homeless is monumental because its real giving, not giving for whats in return.
And it all may be good enough for God

[Tyy1907]

Thanks everyone for the replies, it's great to see I am not alone with all this.
I have come to a point of not even knowing what I am supposed to do here in this life.

Now, just to be clear, I'm not suicidal , I wish to live this life fully, and I know that ending the journey short will only make me start over so I'm going nowhere. Now this is the problem, I feel I'm stuck here.
My 30 year career is over, I have 3 months of funds left, I have no motivation to start over.
Of course I can find some simple minimum wage job, but I'm not here to work and pay taxes.

So I have been asking God, universe, Jesus, all angels, deceased relatives, what is it that I am here for? ( Still have no clue but at least I could pay rent)!...lol
I have no tv so these people don't drain me out, but I'm an empath and I get burnt out just being outside around people.
Anyhow, there must be a reason for all this, all I hope is that I find out soon enough before I totally give up and live by the minute.
much love to everyone, let's see soon hopefully what's on the other side of this rubicon....

I say it's more exausting to figure out why I am here than trying to survive the month financially.

In a broad sense we're all here to bring light into the world, in whatever way(s) we choose. If you're pressing for answers keep on pressing I say. You have every God given right to not only ask but receive something in response to your yearning. Your asking. What I found after 35 years is belief in the divine AND belief in the self is REQUIRED in order to, how do I say, go to the next level with respect to making things happen in your life through divine connection. Knowing your true standing in the eyes of the almighty and knowing the almighty is already within you. Always has been. Trust in yourself and yours heritage, seek and you will find.

[Harmony]

I really love how everyone is sharing with such heartfelt genuine sincerity. :heart:


So much disappointment felt over the past year or so, seeing the world heading in a direction that a part of my inner self is screaming out to stop, wrong way, go back. The feelings of truly being in some place where I just don’t fit in.


The feeling of having been thrown into a movie where I have no idea of where I am and who are some of these people in the movie I no longer recognise and where are they going. Although I have always felt that way on some level, as I know many others here have as well.


Since this whole episode of the acceleration of pushing people into “the reset”, the recognition right from the start that it was apparent that the biggest problem we would face was convincing others around us that something was really not right with what was happening.


I realise that maybe on some level others would disagree, but it feels so unfair because of the false information that has coerced people everywhere around the globe to follow the piper into the unknown.


I keep my alignment with what I feel is my highest guidance, know that I have help, listen to the heart, stay aligned, and just keep getting up, even if you feel down, with a kind of inner trust that even if you can’t see around the next corner you know you will be ok. :flower:

[Bubu]

Thanks everyone for the replies, it's great to see I am not alone with all this.
I have come to a point of not even knowing what I am supposed to do here in this life.

Now, just to be clear, I'm not suicidal , I wish to live this life fully, and I know that ending the journey short will only make me start over so I'm going nowhere. Now this is the problem, I feel I'm stuck here.
My 30 year career is over, I have 3 months of funds left, I have no motivation to start over.
Of course I can find some simple minimum wage job, but I'm not here to work and pay taxes.

So I have been asking God, universe, Jesus, all angels, deceased relatives, what is it that I am here for? ( Still have no clue but at least I could pay rent)!...lol
I have no tv so these people don't drain me out, but I'm an empath and I get burnt out just being outside around people.
Anyhow, there must be a reason for all this, all I hope is that I find out soon enough before I totally give up and live by the minute.
much love to everyone, let's see soon hopefully what's on the other side of this rubicon....

I say it's more exausting to figure out why I am here than trying to survive the month financially.

Live by the minute is what all of us should be doing.

[Johnnycomelately]

I really love how everyone is sharing with such heartfelt genuine sincerity. :heart:




Gotta say, this is the ‘misery loves company’ thread.

[Harmony]

I really love how everyone is sharing with such heartfelt genuine sincerity. :heart:




Gotta say, this is the ‘misery loves company’ thread.

I see this thread as sharing so as not to feel alone in difficult times. Many members have experienced great difficulties during the past two years.

Letting others know of ways to uplift your mood, strengthen your inner commitment or to not fall into despair, or just accept there are times we feel saddenened by what we experience or are witnessing can sometimes lighten out load. We are not alone, and that in itself can bring strength and solace in sharing. :grouphug:

[Johnnycomelately]

I see this thread as sharing so as not to feel alone in difficult times. Many members have experienced great difficulties during the past two years.

Letting others know of ways to uplift your mood, strengthen your inner commitment or to not fall into despair, or just accept there are times we feel saddenened by what we experience or are witnessing can sometimes lighten out load. We are not alone, and that in itself can bring strength and solace in sharing. :grouphug:

Could be, Harmony. I have had some difficulties in the past few years, and in retrospect am glad that no one stoked my pain. Lucky I guess that I have very few friends.

Like that short poem from GI Jane, about the bird that fell frozen from the branch without ever feeling sorry for itself. Our power of life comes from within, I think. Looking outward for help and affirmation is contrary to the natural flow of heavenly energy in us.

I do have empathy, and wish everybody well on their journey. Keeping talking about own problems though is one sure way to keep them around.

[Olam]

Thanks everyone for the replies, it's great to see I am not alone with all this.
I have come to a point of not even knowing what I am supposed to do here in this life.

Now, just to be clear, I'm not suicidal , I wish to live this life fully, and I know that ending the journey short will only make me start over so I'm going nowhere. Now this is the problem, I feel I'm stuck here.
My 30 year career is over, I have 3 months of funds left, I have no motivation to start over.
Of course I can find some simple minimum wage job, but I'm not here to work and pay taxes.

So I have been asking God, universe, Jesus, all angels, deceased relatives, what is it that I am here for? ( Still have no clue but at least I could pay rent)!...lol
I have no tv so these people don't drain me out, but I'm an empath and I get burnt out just being outside around people.
Anyhow, there must be a reason for all this, all I hope is that I find out soon enough before I totally give up and live by the minute.
much love to everyone, let's see soon hopefully what's on the other side of this rubicon....

I say it's more exausting to figure out why I am here than trying to survive the month financially.

In a broad sense we're all here to bring light into the world, in whatever way(s) we choose. If you're pressing for answers keep on pressing I say. You have every God given right to not only ask but receive something in response to your yearning. Your asking. What I found after 35 years is belief in the divine AND belief in the self is REQUIRED in order to, how do I say, go to the next level with respect to making things happen in your life through divine connection. Knowing your true standing in the eyes of the almighty and knowing the almighty is already within you. Always has been. Trust in yourself and yours heritage, seek and you will find.

Thank you for that.

[Harmony]

I understand what you are saying Johnycomelately, and I am glad to hear your difficult times have improved and you have come through the experience now.

From my experiences, as you mention, going within is ultimately necessary, sharing what we find within can be a wonderful thing and make others path just a little bit easier. During difficult times I found the support and understanding of others a huge benefit and something to carry with me and reach out to others in times of need. Thank you for the clarification :flower:

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

Bumping this thread with something personal. :flower: Yesterday morning, I shared this with the other mods:

~~~
A minor personal update here. I was very reluctant to post this on Doug Auld's thread An Exhaustion setting in, but the last 2-3 days I was flattened by a kind of exhaustion myself. I just had NO energy, and no apparent explanation for it.

Last night I slept a little longer than usual, and today I'm going to march myself up to the Santuario Lakes, where I thought of going yesterday but could hardly get to put my boots on, let alone hike anywhere at all — even locally, just up the hill with Mara.

And then on the way back I'll pick up a few more prepping supplies, things which are cheap but will last almost forever (coffee, pasta, rice, some tins of things). I'm convinced the food situation in a few months' time will be dire, even if here there's zero sign of any problem right now.

Summary: my own advice on Doug's thread to anyone feeling the pinch was to (a) get active, (b) do lots of little things, even if they seem tiny, and (c) take proactive steps to at least to start to solve any problems one might be worried about.

So after I come back from my hike with a few more tins and packs of rice I'm also going to do some painting (I had to re-plaster part of a wall after water damage, but it's now dry), and painting always generates energy. If I have a good energetic day then maybe I'll post something on Doug's thread tomorrow.
~~~

Well, that's what I did, and it all worked perfectly. The more active I made myself be, and the more little problems I solved, one by one, the better I felt. And I treated myself to a giant fresh fruit smoothie when I got home — always good therapy. :) I ended the day feeling great, and I feel great now.

I also bought a tiny micro-chocolate cake (just 4 oz), usually reserved twice a year for Christmas and my birthday as fun little annual mountaintop rituals. So I'll take that with me maybe sometime next week on an expedition to Cerro Arquitectos, the highest peak in the local National Park which I've not climbed for over 6 months.

That's another fixture and another promise to self, and another little active project which will keep my energy high — when I'm focusing much of the time on all the problems out there in the wider world, some of which are being suffered by distant close friends.

All that can take its toll, and so the real moral of the story may be balance... always be disciplined to do things to take care of yourself too.

:grouphug:

[Harmony]

I also find if you focus on what needs doing each day, and just get those things done without planning too much. Feed your animals or work in the garden, repair and fix little problems that need attending to and don't forget all the good and beautiful things around you to be thankful for.



Let your heart open to beauty and friendship and move forward into the next minute imagining how you want to make it. It's better to imagine how you want the house to look when it's clean, and automatically it somehow happens, instead of thinking, "I really dislike cleaning" it can make all the difference.


Then, when you need to face the challenges ahead, you are more prepared and have more energy to move into action. :flower:

[Yoda]

:bump:

Bumping this thread with something personal. :flower: Yesterday morning, I shared this with the other mods:

~~~
A minor personal update here. I was very reluctant to post this on Doug Auld's thread An Exhaustion setting in, but the last 2-3 days I was flattened by a kind of exhaustion myself. I just had NO energy, and no apparent explanation for it.

Last night I slept a little longer than usual, and today I'm going to march myself up to the Santuario Lakes, where I thought of going yesterday but could hardly get to put my boots on, let alone hike anywhere at all — even locally, just up the hill with Mara.

And then on the way back I'll pick up a few more prepping supplies, things which are cheap but will last almost forever (coffee, pasta, rice, some tins of things). I'm convinced the food situation in a few months' time will be dire, even if here there's zero sign of any problem right now.

Summary: my own advice on Doug's thread to anyone feeling the pinch was to (a) get active, (b) do lots of little things, even if they seem tiny, and (c) take proactive steps to at least to start to solve any problems one might be worried about.

So after I come back from my hike with a few more tins and packs of rice I'm also going to do some painting (I had to re-plaster part of a wall after water damage, but it's now dry), and painting always generates energy. If I have a good energetic day then maybe I'll post something on Doug's thread tomorrow.
~~~

Well, that's what I did, and it all worked perfectly. The more active I made myself be, and the more little problems I solved, one by one, the better I felt. And I treated myself to a giant fresh fruit smoothie when I got home — always good therapy. :) I ended the day feeling great, and I feel great now.

I also bought a tiny micro-chocolate cake (just 4 oz), usually reserved twice a year for Christmas and my birthday as fun little annual mountaintop rituals. So I'll take that with me maybe sometime next week on an expedition to Cerro Arquitectos, the highest peak in the local National Park which I've not climbed for over 6 months.

That's another fixture and another promise to self, and another little active project which will keep my energy high — when I'm focusing much of the time on all the problems out there in the wider world, some of which are being suffered by distant close friends.

All that can take its toll, and so the real moral of the story may be balance... always be disciplined to do things to take care of yourself too.

:grouphug:

A good friend likened energy flow to tides. He told me to be attentive, as to when the tide was out.
Pierre

[Ernie Nemeth]

The exhaustion spoken of was something I have attributed to getting older. Everyone always says they have no energy like they had when they were young. I found the opposite. As I got older my fortitude, my stamina, has increased steadily. It is only very recently that fatigue has caught up to me. And since I have been waiting for the onset of age related travesties for quite some time with no definitive results, I have felt it odd that this body can just suddenly wear out, I thought the tiredness was the first age-related symptom.

Since this thread, I have looked for a cause other than my age.

The only thing I can imagine is the weather modification technology that goes on overhead almost every day. That and the 5G deployment. Both are conveniently covered by the so-called pandemic and covid symptoms as they ramp up their activities in these two areas.

Yesterday we had a strange weather day. It started cold. Then it got sunny and warm. Then it got dark and cold and the wind picked up and brought rain and hail in a spurt of a storm. Then it got muggy and hot. My bones hurt all day and I had no energy. I lay down twice for a nap - I had all kinds of plans for this long weekend...


If we are talking about the exhaustion in psychological terms, the onslaught of crazy 'woke' ideology can make even the most stalwart individuals ready for the rubber room. We have watched those we thought had more sense turn into emotional basket cases while seriously convinced that it is we who are nuts. Up is down and black is white. But still most everyone insists nothing has changed, and it is we who have spun out on the road of sanity.

Still they keep it going. Still they insist everything will be alright just as soon as oil and gas are consumed no more, as soon as enough illegal migrants have invaded our countries, as soon as we take the next poison pill, just as soon as the nuclear option is loosed on the world. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! Enough craziness!


Like many here, I try to focus on the immediate. That's all we ever have anyway.
I find meditation helps - with no goal other than relaxation.
Deep breathing is essential, more so now than ever before as they steal the very breath that we breathe with their nefarious technologies and evil deeds.


I have my own ideas about the human condition that do not jibe with the consensus viewpoint.

Still, is it not obvious, and logical, that what happens is always as intended by Source, our God, our Guiding Light?

And maybe, just maybe, there is something essential that we do not understand that would change the way we encounter the world and offer us another way to make sense of what we experience?

Another way to say the above would be:


What wonders await us that we have had no idea ever could?

Society has been transformed before in ways no one could have guessed. In fact societies grow in fits and starts, not in a steady fashion at all.
It is during times of calm and routine that things stagnate and no longer serve as intended. We have had a long run with the old tried and true way.
When the systems that once served serve no longer upheaval is inevitable. A time of uncertainty heralds change.

The greater the upheaval, the greater the change.

Let's hope and pray for the greatest change for the greatest good.

[Matthew]

My brother asked me if I was upset with him, because I seemed a little more down than usual. I explained the looming end of civilisation was bumming me out. Some of the signs are in everyone's peripheral vision, and the subjects of diesel costs, grain/wheat shortages and inflation are more on peoples idle conversation menus.

This awareness in people is not really activated though, so I spent some time talking to my brother in terms of the severity, bringing the scenarios to mind. Not in an upset way, but in a heads of state and advisors to heads of state are predicting this kind of way, so prepare and we lose nothing kind of conversation.

The underlying motto of the conversation was be in the best position of strength you can be in. I wanted to activate latent survival/farming/growing/foraging instincts in my brother and hopefully it cascades out to his friends; he has knowledge and skills from his youth, and a set of friends likewise.

I've run out of fear and righteous energy and to some extent sympathy. The reason is because I feel people in denial might become dangerous if diesel costs, grain/wheat shortages and/or inflation, etc cause a system shock enough for serious hunger. May never happen but the signs are strong enough I'm going to assume it might, put myself in the best position of strength I can be in, and activate concerns ...gently, as best as I can, in friends and family and stuff. So I guess I look like I have an exhaustion but I don't feel exhausted, just a heavy heart and a shift to a defensive position.

[Bill Ryan]

I want to bump this valuable thread with a Chris Martenson video, an unusual step. This really, really struck me.

The video title is about children. But it's about all of us, and the difference between depression and demoralization.

Martenson points out that demoralization (a) is an appropriate response to a dysfunctional system, and (b) can't be treated by pharma pills or by therapies designed to shoehorn the person back into accepting and rejoining the "normal" world.

I've not yet finished watching the video, but I'd be sure this applies to MANY reading this. The concepts are very important. This is an "ugly duckling" thing, where those who feel demoralized or exhausted may feel there's something wrong with them.

If you're reading this and feel that way, there's nothing wrong with you. It's a sign of health and sanity in a world that's very sick.:heart:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjE9PNYImKQ

[wondering]

Ironically, just this morning, Ron and I were talking about the numbers of shootings that have occurred in just the past week - only the ones we know about. I said I really don't have a handle on the horrible shootings that involve children, which appear, God forbid, to sometimes be intentional and well planned. I said that I thought the purpose was ongoing demoralization...just heaping more of the incredible tragedies, and more, combined with everything else, and it becomes almost unbearable. Certainly demoralizing.
When I said the shootings were planned and intentional, I meant by others beyond the shooter himself. A well planned event way beyond the intentions and actions of one shooter.

[Bill Ryan]

I want to bump this valuable thread with a Chris Martenson video, an unusual step. This really, really struck me.

The video title is about children. But it's about all of us, and the difference between depression and demoralization.

Martenson points out that demoralization (a) is an appropriate response to a dysfunctional system, and (b) can't be treated by pharma pills or by therapies designed to shoehorn the person back into accepting and rejoining the "normal" world.

I've not yet finished watching the video, but I'd be sure this applies to MANY reading this. The concepts are very important. This is an "ugly duckling" thing, where those who feel demoralized or exhausted may feel there's something wrong with them.

If you're reading this and feel that way, there's nothing wrong with you. It's a sign of health and sanity in a world that's very sick.:heart:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjE9PNYImKQA little more. The section in Chris Martenson's video where he discusses demoralization starts at 19:13.

The article from which Martenson quotes extensively, and which I fully agree is inspired and urgently needed to be understood, is this one. I'll copy it in full. It's very well worth the read, and is full of important insights.

Again: if you're feeling exhausted and demoralized, and may be starting to think there must be something wrong with you, this most excellent article is for you.

:heart:


https://newint.org/columns/essays/2016/04/01/psycho-spiritual-crisis

The Demoralized Mind

Western consumer culture is creating a psycho-spiritual crisis that leaves us disoriented and bereft of purpose. How can we treat our sick culture and make ourselves well? asks John F Schumaker.

Our descent into the Age of Depression seems unstoppable. Three decades ago, the average age for the first onset of depression was 30. Today it is 14. Researchers such as Stephen Izard at Duke University point out that the rate of depression in Western industrialized societies is doubling with each successive generational cohort. At this pace, over 50 per cent of our younger generation, aged 18-29, will succumb to it by middle age. Extrapolating one generation further, we arrive at the dire conclusion that virtually everyone will fall prey to depression.

By contrast to many traditional cultures that lack depression entirely, or even a word for it, Western consumer culture is certainly depression-prone. But depression is so much a part of our vocabulary that the word itself has come to describe mental states that should be understood differently. In fact, when people with a diagnosis of depression are examined more closely, the majority do not actually fit that diagnosis. In the largest study of its kind, Ramin Mojtabai of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health sampled over 5,600 cases and found that only 38 per cent of them met the criteria for depression.

Contributing to the confusion is the equally insidious epidemic of demoralization that also afflicts modern culture. Since it shares some symptoms with depression, demoralization tends to be mislabelled and treated as if it were depression. A major reason for the poor 28-per-cent success rate of anti-depressant drugs is that a high percentage of ‘depression’ cases are actually demoralization, a condition unresponsive to drugs.

Existential disorder

In the past, our understanding of demoralization was limited to specific extreme situations, such as debilitating physical injury, terminal illness, prisoner-of-war camps, or anti-morale military tactics. But there is also a cultural variety that can express itself more subtly and develop behind the scenes of normal everyday life under pathological cultural conditions such as we have today. This culturally generated demoralization is nearly impossible to avoid for the modern ‘consumer’.

Rather than a depressive disorder, demoralization is a type of existential disorder associated with the breakdown of a person’s ‘cognitive map’. It is an overarching psycho-spiritual crisis in which victims feel generally disoriented and unable to locate meaning, purpose or sources of need fulfilment. The world loses its credibility, and former beliefs and convictions dissolve into doubt, uncertainty and loss of direction. Frustration, anger and bitterness are usual accompaniments, as well as an underlying sense of being part of a lost cause or losing battle. The label ‘existential depression’ is not appropriate since, unlike most forms of depression, demoralization is a realistic response to the circumstances impinging on the person’s life.

As it is absorbed, consumer culture imposes numerous influences that weaken personality structures, undermine coping and lay the groundwork for eventual demoralization. Its driving features – individualism, materialism, hyper-competition, greed, over-complication, overwork, hurriedness and debt – all correlate negatively with psychological health and/or social wellbeing. The level of intimacy, trust and true friendship in people’s lives has plummeted. Sources of wisdom, social and community support, spiritual comfort, intellectual growth and life education have dried up. Passivity and choice have displaced creativity and mastery. Resilience traits such as patience, restraint and fortitude have given way to short attention spans, over-indulgence and a masturbatory approach to life.

Research shows that, in contrast to earlier times, most people today are unable to identify any sort of philosophy of life or set of guiding principles. Without an existential compass, the commercialized mind gravitates toward a ‘philosophy of futility’, as Noam Chomsky calls it, in which people feel naked of power and significance beyond their conditioned role as pliant consumers. Lacking substance and depth, and adrift from others and themselves, the thin and fragile consumer self is easily fragmented and dispirited.

By their design, the central organizing principles and practices of consumer culture perpetuate an ‘existential vacuum’ that is a precursor to demoralization. This inner void is often experienced as chronic and inescapable boredom, which is not surprising. Despite surface appearances to the contrary, the consumer age is deathly boring. Boredom is caused, not because an activity is inherently boring, but because it is not meaningful to the person. Since the life of the consumer revolves around the overkill of meaningless manufactured low-level material desires, it is quickly engulfed by boredom, as well as jadedness, ennui and discontent. This steadily graduates to ‘existential boredom’ wherein the person finds all of life uninteresting and unrewarding.

Moral net

Consumption itself is a flawed motivational platform for a society. Repeated consummation of desire, without moderating constraints, only serves to habituate people and diminish the future satisfaction potential of what is consumed. This develops gradually into ‘consumer anhedonia’, wherein consumption loses reward capacity and offers no more than distraction and ritualistic value. Consumerism and psychic deadness are inexorable bedfellows.

Individualistic models of mind have stymied our understanding of many disorders that are primarily of cultural origin. But recent years have seen a growing interest in the topic of cultural health and ill-health as they impact upon general wellbeing. At the same time, we are moving away from naïve behavioural models and returning to the obvious fact that the human being has a fundamental nature, as well as a distinct set of human needs, that must be addressed by a cultural blueprint.

In his groundbreaking book The Moral Order, anthropologist Raoul Naroll used the term ‘moral net’ to indicate the cultural infrastructure that is required for the mental wellbeing of its members. He used numerous examples to show that entire societies can become predisposed to an array of mental ills if their ‘moral net’ deteriorates beyond a certain point. To avoid this, a society’s moral net must be able to meet the key psycho-social-spiritual needs of its members, including a sense of identity and belonging, co-operative activities that weave people into a community, and shared rituals and beliefs that offer a convincing existential orientation.

Similarly, in The Sane Society, Erich Fromm cited ‘frame of orientation’ as one of our vital ‘existential needs’, but pointed out that today’s ‘marketing characters’ are shackled by a cultural programme that actively blocks fulfilment of this and other needs, including the needs for belonging, rootedness, identity, transcendence and intellectual stimulation. We are living under conditions of ‘cultural insanity’, a term referring to a pathological mismatch between the inculturation strategies of a culture and the intrapsychic needs of its followers. Being normal is no longer a healthy ambition.

Human culture has mutated into a sociopathic marketing machine dominated by economic priorities and psychological manipulation. Never before has a cultural system inculcated its followers to suppress so much of their humanity. Leading this hostile takeover of the collective psyche are increasingly sophisticated propaganda and misinformation industries that traffic the illusion of consumer happiness by wildly amplifying our expectations of the material world. Today’s consumers are by far the most propagandized people in history. The relentless and repetitive effect is highly hypnotic, diminishing critical faculties, reducing one’s sense of self, and transforming commercial unreality into a surrogate for meaning and purpose.

The more lost, disoriented and spiritually defeated people become, the more susceptible they become to persuasion, and the more they end up buying into the oversold expectations of consumption. But in unreality culture, hyper-inflated expectations continually collide with the reality of experience. Since nothing lives up to the hype, the world of the consumer is actually an ongoing exercise in disappointment. While most disappointments are minor and easy to dissociate, they accumulate into an emotional background of frustration as deeper human needs get neglected. Continued starvation of these needs fuels disillusion about one’s whole approach to life. Over time, people’s core assumptions can become unstable.

Culture proofing

At its heart, demoralization is a generalized loss of credibility in the assumptions that ground our existence and guide our actions. The assumptions underpinning our allegiance to consumerism are especially vulnerable since they are fundamentally dehumanizing. As they unravel, it becomes increasingly difficult to identify with the values, goals and aspirations that were once part of our consumer reality. The consequent feeling of being forsaken and on the wrong life track is easily mistaken for depression, or even unhappiness, but in fact it is the type of demoralization that most consumer beings will experience to some degree.

For the younger generation, the course of boredom, disappointment, disillusion and demoralization is almost inevitable. As the products of invisible parents, commercialized education, cradle-to-grave marketing and a profoundly boring and insane cultural programme, they must also assimilate into consumer culture while knowing from the outset that its workings are destroying the planet and jeopardizing their future. Understandably, they have become the trance generation, with an insatiable appetite for any technology that can downsize awareness and blunt the emotions. With society in existential crisis, and emotional life on a steep downward trajectory, trance is today’s fastest-growing consumer market.

Once our collapsed assumptions give way to demoralization, the problem becomes how to rebuild the unconscious foundations of our lives. In their present forms, the psychology and psychiatry professions are of little use in treating disorders that are rooted in culture and normality. While individual therapy will not begin to heal a demoralized society, to be effective such approaches must be insight-oriented and focused on the cultural sources of the person’s assumptions, identity, values and centres of meaning. Cultural deprogramming is essential, along with ‘culture proofing’, disobedience training and character development strategies, all aimed at constructing a worldview that better connects the person to self, others and the natural world.

The real task is somehow to treat a sick culture rather than its sick individuals. Erich Fromm sums up this challenge: ‘We can’t make people sane by making them adjust to this society. We need a society that is adjusted to the needs of people.’ Fromm’s solution included a Supreme Cultural Council that would serve as a cultural overseer and advise governments on corrective and preventive action. But that sort of solution is still a long way off, as is a science of culture change. Democracy in its present guise is a guardian of cultural insanity.

We are long overdue a cultural revolution that would force a radical revamp of the political process, economics, work, family and environmental policy. It is true that a society of demoralized people is unlikely to revolt even though it sits on a massive powder keg of pent-up frustration. But credibility counteracts demoralization, and this frustration can be released with immense energy when a credible cause, or credible leadership, is added to the equation.

It might seem that credibility, meaning and purposeful action would derive from the multiple threats to our safety and survival posed by the fatal mismatch between consumer culture and the needs of the planet. The fact that it has not highlights the degree of demoralization that infects the consumer age. With its infrastructure firmly entrenched, and minimal signs of collective resistance, all signs suggest that our obsolete system – what some call ‘disaster capitalism’ – will prevail until global catastrophe dictates for us new cultural directions.

[Satori]

Many members and visitors to this Forum know, or have a good working sense of, what the problems are we all face at the hands of the psychopathic global oligarchs.

Viable working solutions to these problems are rare. Being a prepper is not a solutions to the problem. The need to prep is a symptom of a deeper cancer which is the cause. Prepping, for instance, is at most a momentary work-around for those who are prepared. And, this work-around leads to other problems for the prepared when the unprepared come looking for water, food and shelter. Also, you cannot eat or drink gold, silver, crypto currency or any other such inert commodity.

Moreover, most “solutions” require the masses to play within the rules the oligarchs created, which are ever changing, contradictory and inconsistently and unjustly applied, and which they always ignore and never apply to themselves.

It’s a zero sum game. They privatize profits and socialize losses. We, the 95 %, always lose, they, the 5%, always win.

They are coming for everything. Not just the kids.

What is the proper response, or solution, when you’ve lost, or more accurately, they’ve taken or are about to take, everything and there is no more to give or lose?

If you were at home and prepared, including armed, with your family and murderous thugs came busting through your door, what would you do?

[Johan (Keyholder)]

In essence, I agree with what Satori posted above. It makes perfect sense. It càn be that our age (71 and 64) have something to do with it, but I am not sure about that. When one is in his 30's or 40's and has children or teenagers at home it could make more sense to be a prepper or "survivalist". But even then... what difference would it make? Maybe it is better to teach one's children that there is more than just "survival of the body"? I know some do that (or do their best to do so at least). And that works just as well for any of us.

There are no simple solutions, and very, very few "complicated ones" in my opinion.

[Bill Ryan]

It càn be that our age (71 and 64) have something to do with it, but I am not sure about that.The Demoralized Mind article I posted above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118241-An-Exhaustion-setting-in&p=1501224&viewfull=1#post1501224) starts off:

Three decades ago, the average age for the first onset of depression was 30. Today it is 14.

:flower:

[Satori]

In essence, I agree with what Satori posted above. It makes perfect sense. It càn be that our age (71 and 64) have something to do with it, but I am not sure about that. When one is in his 30's or 40's and has children or teenagers at home it could make more sense to be a prepper or "survivalist". But even then... what difference would it make? Maybe it is better to teach one's children that there is more than just "survival of the body"? I know some do that (or do their best to do so at least). And that works just as well for any of us.

There are no simple solutions, and very, very few "complicated ones" in my opinion.

By the way, I am a prepper by most peoples’ standard. So, I’m not opposed to prepping at all.

My point is that prepping is not the solution to the causes that lead to the effect, ie, the need to prep at the level and in the way we are currently facing.

Throughout most of human history mankind has always been a prepper: Back when we lived off the land, so to speak. But when people were herded into cities and land was taken from them, and the skills and mindset of survival were flushed down the memory hole, prepping took on a new meaning.

My days are relatively few. I fear or worry not for myself. It is the younger generation and those to come that causes me to lament somewhat.

[Johan (Keyholder)]

John F Schumacher's article (mentioned above in post #136) dates back to April 1st 2016 (and no, that was not a "joke"!).

Since then, the general world situation has gotten worse, in about every aspect possible. A virus (oh really?), vaccinations (oh really??), manipulated wars, food shortages, "disinformation", "fake news"... and loads of other "stuff" only have increased the "demoralization", worldwide.

Maybe those that run this "loosh-factory" are having a big party? And 99.5% (or there about) of the public has no clue? What was written in 2016 is ever so much more true today.

A rather unknown psychotherapist, Viktor Frankl, who was in Auschwitz ànd survived it, also developed his system of psychotherapy (named logotherapy) IN Auschwitz. The keyword in his therapy: MEANING. And is that not exactly what is missing most amongst the demoralized? True, finding "meaning" in today's nutty world is not that simple. Still, it is not impossible either (if one is strongwilled enough and determined to find it).

I will never forget when - rather by coincidence - I met Viktor Frankl's widow in Vienna some years ago (she was already in her nineties, but still very bright). This one thing she said, I will always remember: "It is such a pity that not more professional psychologists and psychotherapists practice logotherapy. But it is no wonder, because there is no money in it. In most cases after two - three sessions the patient is cured. And that's not what the "professionals" want... (the majority of them anyway).

A suggestion for anyone who is facing bouts of demoralization: read Frankl's books about logotherapy. That may help.

[Bill Ryan]

A suggestion for anyone who is facing bouts of demoralization: read Frankl's books about logotherapy. That may help.

https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Viktor%20E.%20Frankl%20-%20Man's%20Search%20For%20Meaning.pdf

https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Viktor%20E.%20Frankl%20-%20Man's%20Search%20For%20Meaning.pdf

[wondering]

Johan, Thanks for the reminder about Frankl...he was one of my favorites in college. I've always found Man's Search For Meaning deeply supportive, and I've never appreciated it as much as I do now. Very cool that it is, of course, in Avalon's library! Thanks, Bill.

[Mike]

My #1 suggestion to combat demoralization is to get angry about the lies and tactics that are causing this existential malaise. Actually it's my #2 suggestion. Get informed first, then angry.

Allow yourself to feel your anger. Wallow in it and let it light a flame under your ass.

I'm not suggesting violence, and I'm not suggesting bulging vein/foamy mouth type anger either. That's caveman crap, and not too useful.

You can't burn white hot with anger all the time; you'll burn yourself out. But learn to simmer most of the time. Keep the anger accessible for when you need it. And then find a way to express it creatively and strategically when necessary.

There's ENORMOUS energy in anger. Integrate and use it! It's one of your greatest weapons against this sort of thing.

[Mike Gorman]

Thanks for including the video from Chris Martenson Bill, it is very clear that we are under direct attack from the 'upper levels' of our western society, people who are ordinarily good natured and well-meaning, people who value 'common sense' and justice, clear logical thinking and good intentions are being made to feel stupid, we are being demoralized and described as being 'anti' everything:

1. We do not go along with the climate change narrative
2. We do not agree with Vax mandates and the compulsion to accept mRNA therapy.
3. We do not support mass immigration, and the imposition of multi-cultural ideology
You get the picture!
Those of us who were once highly valued members of our society, and given a reward for our thinking skills are now being marginalized, and made to feel wrong.
This all takes a huge toll on our self worth, our sense of personal value...
We have to make the effort to unite with others and foster good will, we are made to feel we are a minority, but this is absolutely wrong!
It seems our world is unraveling, we are literally living through evil times, being united and communicating with others is essential. I just wanted to add my support, and my good will here.

[Johnnycomelately]

My #1 suggestion to combat demoralization is to get angry about the lies and tactics that are causing this existential malaise. Actually it's my #2 suggestion. Get informed first, then angry.

Allow yourself to feel your anger. Wallow in it and let it light a flame under your ass.

I'm not suggesting violence, and I'm not suggesting bulging vein/foamy mouth type anger either. That's caveman crap, and not too useful.

You can't burn white hot with anger all the time; you'll burn yourself out. But learn to simmer most of the time. Keep the anger accessible for when you need it. And then find a way to express it creatively and strategically when necessary.

There's ENORMOUS energy in anger. Integrate and use it! It's one of your greatest weapons against this sort of thing.

Mike, to your suggestion, I say no. Anger has never had a positive outcome for me, in this life at least. I have gone into fights thinking “I don’t want to hit him”, and come out miraculously fine. Times when I chose anger, the fabric of my very life got torn, needed fixing. Anger is an attitude that the darkness stokes, because it results in energy for them. For sure, following, it will make you more susceptible to base suggestion, an unnecessary and hazardous instability of being. Rather, keep to the light.

Peace.

[jaybee]

John F Schumacher's article (mentioned above in post #136) dates back to April 1st 2016 (and no, that was not a "joke"!).

Since then, the general world situation has gotten worse, in about every aspect possible. A virus (oh really?), vaccinations (oh really??), manipulated wars, food shortages, "disinformation", "fake news"... and loads of other "stuff" only have increased the "demoralization", worldwide.

Maybe those that run this "loosh-factory" are having a big party? And 99.5% (or there about) of the public has no clue? What was written in 2016 is ever so much more true today.

A rather unknown psychotherapist, Viktor Frankl, who was in Auschwitz ànd survived it, also developed his system of psychotherapy (named logotherapy) IN Auschwitz. The keyword in his therapy: MEANING. And is that not exactly what is missing most amongst the demoralized? True, finding "meaning" in today's nutty world is not that simple. Still, it is not impossible either (if one is strongwilled enough and determined to find it).

I will never forget when - rather by coincidence - I met Viktor Frankl's widow in Vienna some years ago (she was already in her nineties, but still very bright). This one thing she said, I will always remember: "It is such a pity that not more professional psychologists and psychotherapists practice logotherapy. But it is no wonder, because there is no money in it. In most cases after two - three sessions the patient is cured. And that's not what the "professionals" want... (the majority of them anyway).

A suggestion for anyone who is facing bouts of demoralization: read Frankl's books about logotherapy. That may help.


Many thanks for drawing attention to Frankl's book - (and thanks Bill for posting it...)...

I was having a bad night last night - one of those night's when you wake up and get into a loop of anxiety about various things and feelings - I had to turn on the bedside light, make a cup of tea and have tea and biscuits at around 1.30 am - I had a look at the forum and this thread and starting reading the book.... oh my - the descriptions of the Concentration Camp... I'm extra interested because through dreams and intuition I think I was a (Russian?) Jew that was killed in WW2... a young woman... I won't go into details here but I believe I was killed in a 'Gas Van'... so didn't have the concentration Camp experience... reading the book didn't make me feel worse, it got me through the Darkest Hour Before Dawn - I'm nearly on page 100 now but wanted to extract a quote for this thread from page 98...


What was really needed was a fundamental change
in our attitude toward life. We had to learn ourselves
and, furthermore, we had to teach the despairing men,
that it did not really matter what we expected from life,
but rather what life expected from us. We needed to
stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to
think of ourselves as those who were being questioned
by life - daily and hourly. Our answer must consist,
not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in
right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and
to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each
individual.

These tasks, and therefore the meaning of life, differ
from man to man, and from moment to moment. Thus
it is impossible to define the meaning of life in a general
way. Questions about the meaning of life can never be
answered by sweeping statements. "Life" does not
mean something vague, but something very real and
concrete, just as life's tasks are also very real and
concrete. They form man's destiny, which is different
and unique for each individual. No man and no destiny
can be compared with any other man or any other
destiny. No situation repeats itself, and each situation
calls for a different response.


anyway - that's all for now... I will be getting on with the book later...

[Tyy1907]

A suggestion for anyone who is facing bouts of demoralization: read Frankl's books about logotherapy. That may help.

https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Viktor%20E.%20Frankl%20-%20Man's%20Search%20For%20Meaning.pdf

https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Viktor%20E.%20Frankl%20-%20Man's%20Search%20For%20Meaning.pdf

To follow this Frankl post

An analysis of this man's experiences from another perspective

10/1/2021

https://www.getwisdom.com/voiceamerica-internet-radio-show-archive/