View Full Version : Is full spectrum criminal control of the planet, humans and spirituality a done deal
jimbobule
1st April 2022, 16:32
Do you agree this is what we are witnessing and we can't stop it?
Had a shower time revelation this morning, see what you think...
I enter a daily trance upon showering, where my mind seems to go 'quantum', solving all kinds of problems and dot connecting.
We all know about Agenda 2030 and the control plan but I think we maybe miss the simplicity of it all?
We also know the globalists are essentially collectivists for their own gain, with their public private partnerships and flip flop between their market tested forms of facism, communism and liberalism.
We all know about the bread and circuses to drive dopamine rushes and docility.
And we all know about divide and conquer, alongside propagation of new false divisions to confuse and misappropriate energy.
So here it is, three things, one I've mentioned before;
1. Are the planners really just wanting control and financial power by controlling all of humanity's "gross margin"? What I mean by that, is that they want to capture any and all of our value-add such as turning seeds into vegetables or making wood into furniture rendering humans incapable of doing anything, hoodwinking our own "gross margin" away from us in the process. Dependence on the system is then at everyone 100% and we become spiritually decrepit, disabled from doing "good works". Simple eh? Straight from Karl Marx - controlling the means of production.
2. Do they sell it to us as "tech for good"? But don't explain the extreme ramifications of the current path, just nudging us along to our box life prisons living on universal credit. The end game seems to be around the corner, the Qbit quantum computer - a prison for human choice as all choices are already mapped in parallel realities these things can access.
3. Is the subtle and nuanced weapon of mass destruction our own instincts used against us? I never hear anyone talking about this but could it be the jewel in the crown of control and manipulation? Hear this out...As humans, we are not long out of rurual society, living among the trees and our hills. The planners know this. They mapped out our behaviours and psychology over a 100 years ago. We are inherently racist (to protect our genes, control disease from outsiders). We are sexist - women brought up children and cooked while men went hunting. We are ageist - in subsistence society the old do not contribute. We are disciriminatory - the disabled, for example, may be seen as passing on bad genes and not contributing. At a basic level we do not thrive through inclusivity or diversity, the mainstay of the bull**** narrative. We thrive through good works, appreciation and connection to the like minded. Do you see it now? It's brilliant, they use behavioural modification and government policy to split out personalities MK Ultra style into mind castrated shells of real human beings. Can you understand the darkness of turning humanity in on itself just to peer police thoughts and confuse, divide and pussy whip our minds?
What is the biggest crime of all? I don't think its nuclear bombs or mass genocide. I think it's the abuse of human good nature to promote collectivism, not for the advantage of people but for the business and control models of the wealthy.
We know something is wrong in the world, taking a shower once a day for me can reveal some of it's simplicity.
How do we wage war on an agenda that has behaviourally modified people to believe in it at such a deep seated and subtle level that it verges on science fiction?
ExomatrixTV
1st April 2022, 16:52
"Whether You Believe You Can Do a Thing or Not, You Are Right ..."
Henry Ford? Virgil? John Dryden? John Herbert Phillips? Del Howard? Harlowe B. Andrews? Norman Vincent Peale? Mary Kay Ash? Apocryphal?
Dear Quote Investigator: An aphorism highlighting the power of positive thinking and warning about the danger of negative thinking has often been attributed to automotive titan Henry Ford. Here are four versions:
Whether you think you can or think you can’t, you’re right.
Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right.
If you think you can or think you can’t, either way you are right.
If you think you can or think you can’t, you’re probably right.
Did Ford really craft this adage? The saying has also been linked to Mary Kay Ash who created a cosmetics empire and Norman Vincent Peale who emphasized positive thinking in his self-help and religious writings.
source (https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/02/03/you-can/)
--o-O-o--
The power of suggestion (self-hypnoses) can work both ways depending on your state of mind: optimism without self-sabotage thoughts & pessimism often full of (lame) excuses ... both sides are not to be confused with the assumed "realism".
Both sides can make mistakes and learn from it, and move on ... but one side is always looking for (lame) excuses not to engage thus learning how to become an "expert" in: not doing it hiding behind a long list of excuses that has everything to do with how you see yourself.
If you feel "incompetent" does not mean you ARE incompetent but if you do not face your own created demons you probably end up living in these self-for-filling prophecies.
cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
April, 2022 🦜🦋🌳
jimbobule
1st April 2022, 17:08
Very good esoteric stuff John. I started the topic to generate discussion on the extreme subtlety of control. I keep myself centred by being aware of it and I get flashes of insight positive, neutral and negative which I hope to share and engage on.
ExomatrixTV
1st April 2022, 17:29
Very good esoteric stuff John. I started the topic to generate discussion on the extreme subtlety of control. I keep myself centred by being aware of it and I get flashes of insight positive, neutral and negative which I hope to share and engage on.
Reinventing myself every day is how it works for me ... allowing myself to surprise myself ... not being trapped in all kinds of belief-systems we mostly (automatically) consciously and/or unconsciously create.
Some (new created) belief-systems can surely serve/help our well being ... but many of them can also be self-sabotage patterns/behavior without realizing it ... It is like something took over ... that can have many causes: PTSD, upraising, having a looming depression, having anxiety issues, overthinking too much, victim of mass conditioning, chronic frustrations, losing yourself, not knowing who you really are or knowing too much about who you are both can lead to "feeling not understood" and being misjudged by peers/friends/family etc.
I never ever was "in to" esoteric stuff ... After I had a Near Death Experience when I was 5 years old and had deep insights long before anyone came with in contact with "esoteric stuff" like books & videos etc. Most what I do is from within and is not from "esoteric programming/conditioning" ... but I see there are SOME obvious overlappings sharing own wisdoms & insights yes (especially universal agenda-free principles).
cheers,
John
yelik
1st April 2022, 17:30
I broadly agree
The satanic elites understand human nature and their frailties very well.
Humanity has always been exposed to psychological manipulation and its getting bmore sophisticated and effective.
The reality we experience is whatever those in high places, with limitless money and influence desire it to be. Humans are their resource which they milk like farm animals (taxes). The matrix movie is a good example of the game.
Spiral
1st April 2022, 18:34
What is the biggest crime of all? I don't think its nuclear bombs or mass genocide. I think it's the abuse of human good nature to promote collectivism, not for the advantage of people but for the business and control models of the wealthy.
We know something is wrong in the world, taking a shower once a day for me can reveal some of it's simplicity.
How do we wage war on an agenda that has behaviourally modified people to believe in it at such a deep seated and subtle level that it verges on science fiction?
I think the "business and control models of the wealthy" are the way those being used & paid off for the "services" they are providing to dark intelligences behind a veil, but it's not really the end in itself, the people involved aren't that smart & the end the envisage goes nowhere, no creativity, no spirituality, just function, like a colony of ants.
Ultimately we are in a spiritual & psychological war for the planet, our species & our very souls, guns & protests aren't going to do anything, this has to happen on the higher planes.
Only the first that's already my woo usage for the month used up.
onawah
2nd April 2022, 04:01
The struggle between the Dark and Light will continue for the next decade or two, imho.
There will be enough victory on the side of Light to ensure there will be survivors (other than the elite in their Dumbs) once the disasters caused by the coming magnetic pole reversal occur.
But for a time, there will continue to be cullings via various assaults on the general populace by the elite, many of which are already in operation such as 5G, vaccines, GMOs, fluoride, chemtrails, engineered weather, etc.
The reduction in population will cause a lot of confusion and failing of various systems, all created by the machinations of the elite, but that will be across the board to some extent, despite their attempts to make themselves invulnerable.
It won't completely even the playing field, however, and there will be enough elite to regroup after the planetary disasters that the pole reversal will cause to enable them to rebuild, though their power will be decreased, and they will keep a much lower profile.
Meanwhile, the remaining survivors will do their best to create a better world, and there will be help from benevolent EDs, ETs, though it may not be obvious they are playing a part.
There will be yet another showdown between the Dark and Light some centuries down the road, as predicted by Rudolf Steiner and other psychics, and that will be a much more major defeat of the Dark side, which will last for a very long time.
2 Peter 3:8: "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
norman
2nd April 2022, 04:32
There will be yet another showdown between the Dark and Light some centuries down the road, as predicted by Rudolf Steiner and other psychics, and that will be a much more major defeat of the Dark side, which will last for a very long time.
2 Peter 3:8: "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
Beware these changing times, from dark v light, into false light v true light.
MATTHEW 24:24 - False messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
jimbobule
2nd April 2022, 06:39
The struggle between the Dark and Light will continue for the next decade or two, imho.
There will be enough victory on the side of Light to ensure there will be survivors (other than the elite in their Dumbs) once the disasters caused by the coming magnetic pole reversal occur.
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What evidence do you have of the pole shift and historical pole shifts?
norman
2nd April 2022, 08:26
Ultimately we are in a spiritual & psychological war for the planet, our species & our very souls, guns & protests aren't going to do anything, this has to happen on the higher planes.
Only the first that's already my woo usage for the month used up.
To get to those higher planes we will have to step past a few things we grip tight to out of entertainment and resultant habit.
Satan has normalised belief over faith, in this world he is the Prince of. That's legit, the creator allowed this scenario either originally, or as a response to a choice mankind made way back at the origin of mankind. Myth or history, 'Adam and Eve' ( whatever the scientific story of that turns out to be, for those it's important to ) chose the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They didn't have to do that, but they did ( heavily tempted and persuaded, I'm sure ) Life didn't have to be this way, it could have been so simple and magical. Magical in the purest and lightest sense, that is. From that point on, the creator ( God ) granted them their free will to digest that knowledge of good and evil.
It's not a test, as some will say, it's just our free will, it always has been, but we are not masters of our will within the dynamics we live. The individual is always outnumbered by the many. We wouldn't have mastered it, in the absolute logical sense, even if we had not chosen the 'knowledge of good and evil', but the reality of this 'individual outnumbered by the many' dynamic on the other path of pure trusting faith and love of the creator would have worked inversely and wonderfully.
Everything in life can be seen through those two very opposed lenses. Pick an issue, any issue, and watch what happens when a group of us get together to try to nail it down and deal with it. The faith crowd get accused of being wishful unreal dreamers and the belief crowd form a circle of wagons of self referential paradigm reinforcement. That same paradigm that is generation the issue that we originally got together to try to find a solution for.
At that point, my frustrated mind tries to break down the underlying components of the teams A and B log jam. I think I've identified a few components that underlay the separation between the believers and the faithers. The one most prominent in my face is the difference between being a flesh suit experiencing a sentience, and a sentient being experiencing a flesh suit. There are others, of course, but an interesting point to note, is that "religion" is not always (if ever) on the faithers side. Actually, religion, in my observations, turns out to be very much about arguing over different beliefs within this Prince of Darkness paradigm, not about replacing it or getting out of it into a faith paradigm. They are effectively acting out the parts of controlled opposition, in that regard. I acknowledge and respect the fact that some individuals within those religious mind structures do stand out distinctly as faithers in their own right, individually.
So what is it I'm banging on about regarding 'belief' ?
Belief is rooted in the cerebral. The cerebral is rooted in this flesh suit, it's as much a part of this flesh suit as is the intestine, it even functions similarly. Faith is not part of the flesh suit, it comes with the sentient being occupying it. Even the trans-humanists are only interested it what we believe, not our faith, they want to banish faith completely out of the picture.
Jesus was an interesting guy, to say the least. Son of God? . . sure why not . .defining that stuff is way above my pay grade anyway. Whatever or whoever he was, he was very much a sentient being occupying a flesh suit. Amazingly, if the records we have can be anything like relied upon, with his sentient being came a profoundly unusual amount of raw power, magical, even. He would have laughed (maybe even did) at "do as thou wilt". He was on a higher plane that would make 'do as thou wilt' look like a rat pressing a button to get food or an electric shock.
The 'cerebral' has a natural function within the faither paradigm and an unnatural function within the believer paradigm, in which it is falsely promoted to the position where faith should occupy. It becomes the arbiter of all things, quite disastrously so too. The human nervous system has many clusters of intense activity. The sexual ones are quite fun, and so are the tasting ones. The one that gets most abused and addicted-to though, is the one inside the skull of the head. Satan loves that. It's the basis of his tricks that keep his world order completely under his control.
We think, he subtly ( and sometimes not so subtly ) controls what we think, he controls what we act out and manifest. Simple, as long as we are too blind to see it, he's got us right where he wants us. This paradigm does not depend on how cerebrally powerful any of us are, at least not in the regular sense, it may well have an inverse relationship though (A well entrained powerful brain is harder to deprogram than a well entrained weak brain, I guess ). And of course, when these factors are exposed during discussion, the cerebral ego loves to poke a stick at the weaker brained who might just have stumbled out of the believer polarity paradigm into the faither polarity because their weaker cerebral believer-thinking space cracked more easily in the first place.
Paul, so you think you've run out of Woo time . . . where am I on that calendar of yours, by now ?
btw, I'm fond of Jesus, I cringe at myself for parts of how I just wrote about him. Giving God a hug is the simplest way I know of how to break out of the believer polarity paradigm.
yelik
2nd April 2022, 13:28
The struggle between the Dark and Light will continue for the next decade or two, imho.
There will be enough victory on the side of Light to ensure there will be survivors (other than the elite in their Dumbs) once the disasters caused by the coming magnetic pole reversal occur.
."
What evidence do you have of the pole shift and historical pole shifts?
It appears pole shifts may be created by a sun nova event which is predicted for 2046, apparently - hence the dumbs. If you look at the work of Douglas Vogt of........... http://www.dieholdfoundation.com/ He goes into detail of previous cataclysmic events with evidence and significant historical research. It seems plausible to me and may explain why the elites have been building their dumbs, seed banks. Perhaps their is only space for say 500m in these dumbs so the rest of us will soon be surplus to requirements
onawah
2nd April 2022, 18:32
As pertaining to the magnetic pole reversal in as succinct a form as possible:
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Much more from Ben Davidson on the Suspicious Observer playlists, such as: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSoxioQtwZcVcFC85TxEEiirgfXwhfsw
Updates are posted regularly on this thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages
BTW, Davidson does not think there will be no survivors other than the elite in their DUMBS.
Preppers and Survivalists and others who know huge changes are coming don't necessarily all have the full picture so they know everything they need to prepare for, but he and his cohorts are doing their best to get the necessary information out within certain guidelines (such as credible, verifiable corroboration).
I don't think Davidson has been censored as yet, at least.
Perhaps because he's being careful not to sensationalize.
I think what most don't realize is how much heat will be emanating from the Sun, however briefly, which explains why survivors of past events created their communities in caves, and why DUMBS are being constructed underground.
I would think the most likely to survive and thrive will be intentional, sustainable communities, or at least very close-knit communities that are fairly self-sustaining.
Team effort will be required, no doubt one reason why so much division is being created by the elite's Satanic agenda.
Sounds a lot like what the end of a Kali Yuga might look like...
The struggle between the Dark and Light will continue for the next decade or two, imho.
There will be enough victory on the side of Light to ensure there will be survivors (other than the elite in their Dumbs) once the disasters caused by the coming magnetic pole reversal occur.
."
What evidence do you have of the pole shift and historical pole shifts?
It appears pole shifts may be created by a sun nova event which is predicted for 2046, apparently - hence the dumbs. If you look at the work of Douglas Vogt of........... http://www.dieholdfoundation.com/ He goes into detail of previous cataclysmic events with evidence and significant historical research. It seems plausible to me and may explain why the elites have been building their dumbs, seed banks. Perhaps their is only space for say 500m in these dumbs so the rest of us will soon be surplus to requirements
onawah
3rd April 2022, 03:51
I think it's quite possible to have both faith and belief, but it took some time to figure out what I believed and what I had faith in.
Faith doesn't have to be blind, nor does belief have to be unquestioning.
A Zen Master I once knew said that a great Zen practice entails great faith, great doubt and great perseverance.
Ultimately we are in a spiritual & psychological war for the planet, our species & our very souls, guns & protests aren't going to do anything, this has to happen on the higher planes.
Only the first that's already my woo usage for the month used up.
To get to those higher planes we will have to step past a few things we grip tight to out of entertainment and resultant habit.
Satan has normalised belief over faith, in this world he is the Prince of. That's legit, the creator allowed this scenario either originally, or as a response to a choice mankind made way back at the origin of mankind. Myth or history, 'Adam and Eve' ( whatever the scientific story of that turns out to be, for those it's important to ) chose the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They didn't have to do that, but they did ( heavily tempted and persuaded, I'm sure ) Life didn't have to be this way, it could have been so simple and magical. Magical in the purest and lightest sense, that is. From that point on, the creator ( God ) granted them their free will to digest that knowledge of good and evil.
It's not a test, as some will say, it's just our free will, it always has been, but we are not masters of our will within the dynamics we live. The individual is always outnumbered by the many. We wouldn't have mastered it, in the absolute logical sense, even if we had not chosen the 'knowledge of good and evil', but the reality of this 'individual outnumbered by the many' dynamic on the other path of pure trusting faith and love of the creator would have worked inversely and wonderfully.
Everything in life can be seen through those two very opposed lenses. Pick an issue, any issue, and watch what happens when a group of us get together to try to nail it down and deal with it. The faith crowd get accused of being wishful unreal dreamers and the belief crowd form a circle of wagons of self referential paradigm reinforcement. That same paradigm that is generation the issue that we originally got together to try to find a solution for.
At that point, my frustrated mind tries to break down the underlying components of the teams A and B log jam. I think I've identified a few components that underlay the separation between the believers and the faithers. The one most prominent in my face is the difference between being a flesh suit experiencing a sentience, and a sentient being experiencing a flesh suit. There are others, of course, but an interesting point to note, is that "religion" is not always (if ever) on the faithers side. Actually, religion, in my observations, turns out to be very much about arguing over different beliefs within this Prince of Darkness paradigm, not about replacing it or getting out of it into a faith paradigm. They are effectively acting out the parts of controlled opposition, in that regard. I acknowledge and respect the fact that some individuals within those religious mind structures do stand out distinctly as faithers in their own right, individually.
So what is it I'm banging on about regarding 'belief' ?
Belief is rooted in the cerebral. The cerebral is rooted in this flesh suit, it's as much a part of this flesh suit as is the intestine, it even functions similarly. Faith is not part of the flesh suit, it comes with the sentient being occupying it. Even the trans-humanists are only interested it what we believe, not our faith, they want to banish faith completely out of the picture.
Jesus was an interesting guy, to say the least. Son of God? . . sure why not . .defining that stuff is way above my pay grade anyway. Whatever or whoever he was, he was very much a sentient being occupying a flesh suit. Amazingly, if the records we have can be anything like relied upon, with his sentient being came a profoundly unusual amount of raw power, magical, even. He would have laughed (maybe even did) at "do as thou wilt". He was on a higher plane that would make 'do as thou wilt' look like a rat pressing a button to get food or an electric shock.
The 'cerebral' has a natural function within the faither paradigm and an unnatural function within the believer paradigm, in which it is falsely promoted to the position where faith should occupy. It becomes the arbiter of all things, quite disastrously so too. The human nervous system has many clusters of intense activity. The sexual ones are quite fun, and so are the tasting ones. The one that gets most abused and addicted-to though, is the one inside the skull of the head. Satan loves that. It's the basis of his tricks that keep his world order completely under his control.
We think, he subtly ( and sometimes not so subtly ) controls what we think, he controls what we act out and manifest. Simple, as long as we are too blind to see it, he's got us right where he wants us. This paradigm does not depend on how cerebrally powerful any of us are, at least not in the regular sense, it may well have an inverse relationship though (A well entrained powerful brain is harder to deprogram than a well entrained weak brain, I guess ). And of course, when these factors are exposed during discussion, the cerebral ego loves to poke a stick at the weaker brained who might just have stumbled out of the believer polarity paradigm into the faither polarity because their weaker cerebral believer-thinking space cracked more easily in the first place.
Paul, so you think you've run out of Woo time . . . where am I on that calendar of yours, by now ?
btw, I'm fond of Jesus, I cringe at myself for parts of how I just wrote about him. Giving God a hug is the simplest way I know of how to break out of the believer polarity paradigm.
norman
3rd April 2022, 07:50
I think it's quite possible to have both faith and belief, but it took some time to figure out what I believed and what I had faith in.
Faith doesn't have to be blind, nor does belief have to be unquestioning.
A Zen Master I once knew said that a great Zen practice entails great faith, great doubt and great perseverance.
But, onawah, none of that has or will fix anything.
The pairing of the word blind with the word faith is a "believer" taking the piss out of a "faither". Not you directly, it's a term that's been around a very long time that people pick up and recycle automatically in the same sort of way they pick up and recycle terms like "conspiracy theorist" or "populist". Such terms deflect the reader's/listener's attention away from something paradigm changing(ly) important to understand. I'm sure you know what I mean, in the case of my two examples.
In the case of "blind faith", it bypasses any notion that our 'energetic' orientation is the whole point of why our world is how it is and why we can't fix it while in that orientation.
onawah
3rd April 2022, 18:17
Much depends on whether you think the world can be "fixed" and if that is our primary task, or if we are meant to transcend it.
Not to say that virtue is not necessary in order to transcend.
It is, but is the goal of virtue to "fix", or is virtue its own reward, in that it helps us to transcend, and thereby bring more light into the world?
There are too many things about this world that we cannot fix, but if we can transcend, then there is at least that much less suffering in the world.
I think it's quite possible to have both faith and belief, but it took some time to figure out what I believed and what I had faith in.
Faith doesn't have to be blind, nor does belief have to be unquestioning.
A Zen Master I once knew said that a great Zen practice entails great faith, great doubt and great perseverance.
But, onawah, none of that has or will fix anything.
The pairing of the word blind with the word faith is a "believer" taking the piss out of a "faither". Not you directly, it's a term that's been around a very long time that people pick up and recycle automatically in the same sort of way they pick up and recycle terms like "conspiracy theorist" or "populist". Such terms deflect the reader's/listener's attention away from something paradigm changing(ly) important to understand. I'm sure you know what I mean, in the case of my two examples.
In the case of "blind faith", it bypasses any notion that our 'energetic' orientation is the whole point of why our world is how it is and why we can't fix it while in that orientation.
jimbobule
4th April 2022, 11:22
I don't think so Onawah. The controller's have chosen to make the battlefield the material space using New Age beliefs to disable those capable of brining the fight to their domain.
You are right of course in one way, that if everyone stopped focusing on the wall of the cave, then it would stop immediately but too many are transfixed.
Noone ever won a battle without troops on the field
Mari
4th April 2022, 20:36
I don't think so Onawah. The controller's have chosen to make the battlefield the material space using New Age beliefs to disable those capable of brining the fight to their domain.
You are right of course in one way, that if everyone stopped focusing on the wall of the cave, then it would stop immediately but too many are transfixed.
Noone ever won a battle without troops on the field
Yes, we'll never 'win' this whilst we still participate in it all. We have to disengage and form new societies/community groups and that will mean going without most of what the NWO will be offering: ditching the smart technology that is meant to enslave, growing our own food (supermarkets will be banned to us) and no internet, as that will most certainly be a digital ID paywall.
So I see then, a split in society, that those who cannot do without their 'smart' stuff will (happily in most cases) exist in a dystopian nightmare, whilst the rest (minority) will live, with increasing satisfaction as they learn the ropes, on the fringes.
onawah
5th April 2022, 00:29
I have to agree with Mari. I think those who will survive the depredations of the NWO and the coming magnetic pole reversal disasters will be those who not only are wide awake to what's coming, but are already prepared or preparing for it.
Simple, sustainable, cooperative living has to be the goal, off grid and cut off from many modern conveniences which most have become so dependent on.
The earth changes will destroy a lot of those, in any case.
But when it comes to spiritual transcendance, that is a whole different category, and in the final stages, requires a lot more individual discipline, and a willingness to forgo physicality itself.
There's been a good discussion about that on the Theosophy thread.
I don't think so Onawah. The controller's have chosen to make the battlefield the material space using New Age beliefs to disable those capable of brining the fight to their domain.
You are right of course in one way, that if everyone stopped focusing on the wall of the cave, then it would stop immediately but too many are transfixed.
Noone ever won a battle without troops on the field
Yes, we'll never 'win' this whilst we still participate in it all. We have to disengage and form new societies/community groups and that will mean going without most of what the NWO will be offering: ditching the smart technology that is meant to enslave, growing our own food (supermarkets will be banned to us) and no internet, as that will most certainly be a digital ID paywall.
So I see then, a split in society, that those who cannot do without their 'smart' stuff will (happily in most cases) exist in a dystopian nightmare, whilst the rest (minority) will live, with increasing satisfaction as they learn the ropes, on the fringes.
shaberon
5th April 2022, 01:31
I think it's the abuse of human good nature to promote collectivism, not for the advantage of people but for the business and control models of the wealthy.
Yes, in the most basic terms, I think you are onto it, the most insidious weapon is the voluntary relinquishment of the mind, subconscious cooperation.
In fact this is described at great length as the root of the present conflict in an interview with Sergey Glazyev (https://thesaker.is/events-like-these-only-happen-once-every-century-sergey-glazyev/), which among other things has in mind directing the profits more towards social well-being. He covers a lot of the historical trends, and, the changes, which are effective immediately. So I would argue it is already stopped.
I would agree that there are Atlantacists and Fifth Columnists in Russia and China, increasingly exposed and losing influence, such as the recent departure of the official from Russia's Central Bank, who may have favored the IMF over his country.
I do not agree these fringe groups constitute a "the globalists" who are going to make Liberal Democracy miraculously win the rest of the world.
Ultimately we would be better off to continue the purge throughout western governments, and, one is going to need to change the legal structures in which they nest. Most of the problems we witness are due to mind control erasing man's knowledge of Law, and the subsequent changes favoring corporatism or i. e. fascism.
It can be born out in agonizing detail via the evolutions of EIC and American flags and the details of the conflict between America and Britain. One of the things that was even remembered by Protestants of those days was the tradition of Jubilee which is Biblical because it is virtually pan-Old World and was more or less the definition of a Good King all the way to India. This means a forgiveness of personal debt. Obviously it would be anathema to a wealth-controller to have to deal with any concept of Good. So, it's just gone.
The mode that we see operating these days, I have heard called by some Europeans as Green Fascists. I think this may be appropriate since it involves the "collectivism" of environmental and justice issues and so forth, to be fanatically believed in by someone who is going to enforce it through Totalitarianism. Of course, basic environmental issues are really important, and, of course, that is not the right solution.
It is a frightful aberration that is going to have to be extracted from the US & UK systems where it has gotten cozy for too long.
jimbobule
5th April 2022, 06:06
I think it's the abuse of human good nature to promote collectivism, not for the advantage of people but for the business and control models of the wealthy.
Yes, in the most basic terms, I think you are onto it, the most insidious weapon is the voluntary relinquishment of the mind, subconscious cooperation.
In fact this is described at great length as the root of the present conflict in an interview with Sergey Glazyev (https://thesaker.is/events-like-these-only-happen-once-every-century-sergey-glazyev/), which among other things has in mind directing the profits more towards social well-being. He covers a lot of the historical trends, and, the changes, which are effective immediately. So I would argue it is already stopped.
I would agree that there are Atlantacists and Fifth Columnists in Russia and China, increasingly exposed and losing influence, such as the recent departure of the official from Russia's Central Bank, who may have favored the IMF over his country.
I do not agree these fringe groups constitute a "the globalists" who are going to make Liberal Democracy miraculously win the rest of the world.
Ultimately we would be better off to continue the purge throughout western governments, and, one is going to need to change the legal structures in which they nest. Most of the problems we witness are due to mind control erasing man's knowledge of Law, and the subsequent changes favoring corporatism or i. e. fascism.
It can be born out in agonizing detail via the evolutions of EIC and American flags and the details of the conflict between America and Britain. One of the things that was even remembered by Protestants of those days was the tradition of Jubilee which is Biblical because it is virtually pan-Old World and was more or less the definition of a Good King all the way to India. This means a forgiveness of personal debt. Obviously it would be anathema to a wealth-controller to have to deal with any concept of Good. So, it's just gone.
The mode that we see operating these days, I have heard called by some Europeans as Green Fascists. I think this may be appropriate since it involves the "collectivism" of environmental and justice issues and so forth, to be fanatically believed in by someone who is going to enforce it through Totalitarianism. Of course, basic environmental issues are really important, and, of course, that is not the right solution.
It is a frightful aberration that is going to have to be extracted from the US & UK systems where it has gotten cozy for too long.
Fantastic reply.
The classic has been women’s rights where for centuries the wealthy funded it to achieve their goals playing on emotional good will to enfranchise 50% of the population to pay taxes (early days) and to break up the family unit (more recently).
They want a “Great Reset”, we need a “Great Purge”. Exactly what that Australian senator was suggesting in his parliament ref the WEF. The veil needs lifting and when it does it could hit society like a steam train.
Man thrives on good works and labour for his indivual wellbeing.
This is where the green fascists (good term btw) have it wrong..I see social well-being as generated bottom-up among like minded people, not top down. This is how people develop their individuality, gain self respect and can be relatively autonomous, adding to the diversity of the whole. The brainwashing literally rips this utopian bias from society selling false diversity as race and gender mixing by inverting the human energy for profit and nefarious spiritual influence and making them afraid of authority and the taxman.
My wife and I have this index on how much a person has been ‘got’ i.e. mind incarcerated by the system. The sad truth is that we are all on that scale to a degree but places like Avalon can help you move the needle. It’s taken me 10 years to really take control of that personal journey and balance my perspectives.
lizhekb
5th April 2022, 17:26
Whatever, I am getting used to it.
shaberon
7th April 2022, 05:38
The classic has been women’s rights where for centuries the wealthy funded it to achieve their goals playing on emotional good will to enfranchise 50% of the population to pay taxes (early days) and to break up the family unit (more recently).
Fabianism.
On almost every subject like this, from religion on out, it seems to me that at first, there is one, or a few people, trying to make a decent commonsense point. A movement starts. Shortly after it begins, it is infested with, and eventually taken over by, manipulative forces. The French Revolution was like this.
I see social well-being as generated bottom-up among like minded people, not top down.
I hope so. Among well-developed adults there should hardly be need for top-down control of much of anything. The States are pretty degenerated though. I get the sense that European peoples are more submissive than they are outright dumb. I try to tell myself that what I see is "just" the product of social engineering, but everything seems to have gotten weaker and dumber in the time that I have been watching.
jimbobule
7th April 2022, 09:19
The classic has been women’s rights where for centuries the wealthy funded it to achieve their goals playing on emotional good will to enfranchise 50% of the population to pay taxes (early days) and to break up the family unit (more recently).
Fabianism.
On almost every subject like this, from religion on out, it seems to me that at first, there is one, or a few people, trying to make a decent commonsense point. A movement starts. Shortly after it begins, it is infested with, and eventually taken over by, manipulative forces. The French Revolution was like this.
I see social well-being as generated bottom-up among like minded people, not top down.
I hope so. Among well-developed adults there should hardly be need for top-down control of much of anything. The States are pretty degenerated though. I get the sense that European peoples are more submissive than they are outright dumb. I try to tell myself that what I see is "just" the product of social engineering, but everything seems to have gotten weaker and dumber in the time that I have been watching.
Your observation on Europe is correct as there is so much homogeneity in 3 broad blocks. Northern social welfare states dumb down dissent and encourage respect of authority figures..this is the world of Klaus Schwab. Southern - relaxed but can be fiery sometimes with a crazy draconian catholic law system that does not reflect nationalities : see Spanish response to COVID. Eastern -ex soviet block more independent minded, resilient and sceptical.
norman
7th April 2022, 10:04
. . . . On almost every subject like this, from religion on out, it seems to me that at first, there is one, or a few people, trying to make a decent commonsense point. A movement starts. Shortly after it begins, it is infested with, and eventually taken over by, manipulative forces. The French Revolution was like this. . . . . .
It's a combination of directly manipulative forces and a mass of camp following followers who really only come along to piss in the pool. Then the manipulative forces make use of that until they've got the pioneers/leaders trapped in a very smelly pool that's no longer intellectually defendable by the standard fiat self referential consensus. It's as important to deal with followership as it is to deal with predatory manipulators. They effectively work together hand in hand.
There's a vital personal/individual sovereignty issue at the heart of this.
"Whether You Believe You Can Do a Thing or Not, You Are Right ..."
Henry Ford? Virgil? John Dryden? John Herbert Phillips? Del Howard? Harlowe B. Andrews? Norman Vincent Peale? Mary Kay Ash? Apocryphal?
Dear Quote Investigator: An aphorism highlighting the power of positive thinking and warning about the danger of negative thinking has often been attributed to automotive titan Henry Ford. Here are four versions:
Whether you think you can or think you can’t, you’re right.
Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right.
If you think you can or think you can’t, either way you are right.
If you think you can or think you can’t, you’re probably right.
Did Ford really craft this adage? The saying has also been linked to Mary Kay Ash who created a cosmetics empire and Norman Vincent Peale who emphasized positive thinking in his self-help and religious writings.
source (https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/02/03/you-can/)
--o-O-o--
The power of suggestion (self-hypnoses) can work both ways depending on your state of mind: optimism without self-sabotage thoughts & pessimism often full of (lame) excuses ... both sides are not to be confused with the assumed "realism".
Both sides can make mistakes and learn from it, and move on ... but one side is always looking for (lame) excuses not to engage thus learning how to become an "expert" in: not doing it hiding behind a long list of excuses that has everything to do with how you see yourself.
If you feel "incompetent" does not mean you ARE incompetent but if you do not face your own created demons you probably end up living in these self-for-filling prophecies.
cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
April, 2022 🦜🦋🌳
What you believe in your vaun
ted free will, it is up to you. However, keep in mind that life is neutral; has no preferences. There is no such thing as a free lunch. When you decide to do something, be prepared to agree the output
Delight
8th April 2022, 02:29
Two people whom I would love to know are JP Sears and Zev Zeklenko. IMO they are Divinely inspired. I have not heard this yet. Sharing FYI talk and I'll BET they say It's NOT a done deal
136 Being a Bold Warrior with Dr. Zelenko April 7, 2022 (https://awakenwithjp.com/)
shaberon
9th April 2022, 06:19
Southern - relaxed but can be fiery sometimes with a crazy draconian catholic law system that does not reflect nationalities : see Spanish response to COVID.
Spain is almost unimaginable to Americans because it sounds small. But yes highly fascist and draconian and at one time for example ruling The Netherlands. And then yes even now it sounded like Spanish forces declared war on humanity just because they could.
Oh, Jesuitry, that was a Spaniard.
A significant way in which seemingly opposing forces may work together stems from what you might call the American contribution 1890-ish. Old Spanish Jesuits could hardly be the more spitting image of fascism. However, dealing with Native Tribes and so on, American Jesuits discovered a new strategy. Instead of the jack booted, iron fisted "convert or die" from the old world, they decided to employ "any weak, watered-down form of Jesus" as the new schema of mind control.
So that is why it does not matter if America is not all that Catholic, in fact this helps mask their influence. It is still found, for instance, at high level meetings for One World Currency.
If most Fascist programs sound dialecticly opposed to Fabian ones, it is something like a pre-arranged dispute, both systems being essentially Totalitarian in character.
shaberon
9th April 2022, 06:56
...a mass of camp following followers who really only come along to piss in the pool.
Yes, I think, hugely in the principle of youth movements, including early adulthood. Does Azov have many officers over thirty?
Unfortunately someone like me can only influence a tiny number of older more sedate people. We would be naive to think that youthful angst is simply going to dissipate any time soon. Is it possible to grab this for good purposes before they turn into a death squad?
It sounds like I may be suggesting manipulation in reverse.
Well, of course.
Anything you say or do is suggestive, hypnotic, and manipulative to anyone who perceives it.
However there is a huge difference in methods and purposes to which it could be applied. And so this is where the clash really lies. Perhaps Lord Byron figured something of this out and reacted, in a way, that, no one really knew what they were doing, but, at least they had become aware of the danger.
Where did our current chaos come back from, well, Yugoslavia.
I believe it lost in Syria. There we were actually shown it was fangless. But it wasn't over and now is being stopped in a more remarkable way. So the potential for that global cartel is gone. But now what would it take to de-nazify society?
I could run an indoctrination camp for eight year olds that would do it.
If that sounds a little off, then what is public education?
All I have done is described a private school for Nazi Hunters, but, it would not be the same kind as from the 1950s, since we know a whole lot more about what it means now, not being specifically German. It almost doesn't matter what name you give it. Although I like Putin's title "Empire of Lies". It doesn't quite intend a nation, country, race, etc., but this demonic militancy about something that is false.
jimbobule
9th April 2022, 12:36
Southern - relaxed but can be fiery sometimes with a crazy draconian catholic law system that does not reflect nationalities : see Spanish response to COVID.
Spain is almost unimaginable to Americans because it sounds small. But yes highly fascist and draconian and at one time for example ruling The Netherlands. And then yes even now it sounded like Spanish forces declared war on humanity just because they could.
Oh, Jesuitry, that was a Spaniard.
A significant way in which seemingly opposing forces may work together stems from what you might call the American contribution 1890-ish. Old Spanish Jesuits could hardly be the more spitting image of fascism. However, dealing with Native Tribes and so on, American Jesuits discovered a new strategy. Instead of the jack booted, iron fisted "convert or die" from the old world, they decided to employ "any weak, watered-down form of Jesus" as the new schema of mind control.
So that is why it does not matter if America is not all that Catholic, in fact this helps mask their influence. It is still found, for instance, at high level meetings for One World Currency.
If most Fascist programs sound dialecticly opposed to Fabian ones, it is something like a pre-arranged dispute, both systems being essentially Totalitarian in character.
Reality is that Latin / Mediterranean countries have centralised bureaucratic law systems, the opposite to federal or liberal democracy. Spain is centralised on Madrid and Italy on Rome, for example, who are the ‘keepers of records’. I know this first hand because I own property in Spain and compared to the UK, process of acquisition and maintenance is like the Middle Ages. I need a lawyer to manage my ongoing property arrangements in Spain!
Thus, mad disproportionate mandates can emerge from the centre from the cabal controllers. So these countries are no problem to the cabal but western democracies are. To subvert national authority they encourage devolved power of the regions and alignment of territories into broad groups which don’t make any sense. In the UK all smaller countries have devolved power and they have aligned cities into e.g the ‘Northern Powerhouse’ that geographically have never worked together. If you ask people why was power devolved, why did BREXIT come to a vote, why the mega region approach for England…they don’t know? Classic and insidious divide and conquer to create new control structures subverting British nationality overlaid with out of control migration.
If rumour is to be believed the cabal split nations into 13 shadow control zones, each with a leader. I think I have interacted with one of them personally…but in another country.
shaberon
11th April 2022, 01:08
[QUOTE=jimbobule;1492636] I know this first hand because I own property in Spain and compared to the UK, process of acquisition and maintenance is like the Middle Ages. I need a lawyer to manage my ongoing property arrangements in Spain!/QUOTE]
This is the right subject in order to possibly understand the early American legal system ca. 1789-1861.
These most significant laws are all about property transfer.
They scale from individuals to nations. What the Americans were striving for was a system of Private Property. In basic terms what this means is, if I own a farm, no government can tax me, put a lien on it, tell me what I can or cannot build, etc., and I have an essentially permanent tract for all my generations, to the extent that we learn how to manage and cultivate our land. If there is a problem, like crop failure, etc., the source of assistance is that we generally turn to our neighbors, who may help at their own discretion.
Chances are, because they are not being taxed at the source of production, they feel a little more generous than most people nowadays.
And so for example, in the Louisiana Purchase, the treaty protects any Private Property; just because in some way the U. S. had purchased the territory from France, you were not "taken over" by anything, and hardly affected at all.
After this, by becoming "citizens", the people have surrendered their rights to a statutory system resembling and in alliance with the UK Law.
Then we reach the point where, for example, you collecting water in a cistern is illegal, and this basic commodity slips more and more into the hands of for-profit businesses, such as Swiss ones.
I am not highly familiar off the top of my head about the differences in Roman and British law, but, what appears to be the basic trick employed there, is that, even by peeling off the supposed curse of Monarchy, everywhere by law still keeps "people" as subjects. For example I have looked at the Constitution of Germany (1951) and it sounds very good in terms of "human rights", it definitely has strong selling points about any kind of physical abuse. However it also contains clauses that explicitly state that a citizen of Germany is a subject of the German government, which, in turn, is a vassal of the European Central Bank.
Similarly in the U. S., the Secretary of the Treasury is also an officer of the IMF, which constitutes a conflict of interest or a foreign agent.
Since the forward progress of the Petrodollar just vanished, with the U. S. govt. at $30T in debt, and, Deutsche Bank sitting on probably twice that much in unsecured derivatives, this system seems to have dug its own grave. Even if it may have "snuk up" on some people for seventy years because they were oblivious to it, its planners share this trait with the CIA:
Capable of failure.
Unfortunately now the upswing of having lost the global death grip, we have the additional burden of 2/3 of the population and their injections, which, in addition to numerous other diseases, damages eggs and reproduction. The situation is an almost direct continuity of The Opium War. An ongoing campaign that we might say is generally against public health.
jimbobule
11th April 2022, 07:51
[QUOTE=jimbobule;1492636] I know this first hand because I own property in Spain and compared to the UK, process of acquisition and maintenance is like the Middle Ages. I need a lawyer to manage my ongoing property arrangements in Spain!/QUOTE]
This is the right subject in order to possibly understand the early American legal system ca. 1789-1861.
These most significant laws are all about property transfer.
They scale from individuals to nations. What the Americans were striving for was a system of Private Property. In basic terms what this means is, if I own a farm, no government can tax me, put a lien on it, tell me what I can or cannot build, etc., and I have an essentially permanent tract for all my generations, to the extent that we learn how to manage and cultivate our land. If there is a problem, like crop failure, etc., the source of assistance is that we generally turn to our neighbors, who may help at their own discretion.
Chances are, because they are not being taxed at the source of production, they feel a little more generous than most people nowadays.
And so for example, in the Louisiana Purchase, the treaty protects any Private Property; just because in some way the U. S. had purchased the territory from France, you were not "taken over" by anything, and hardly affected at all.
After this, by becoming "citizens", the people have surrendered their rights to a statutory system resembling and in alliance with the UK Law.
Then we reach the point where, for example, you collecting water in a cistern is illegal, and this basic commodity slips more and more into the hands of for-profit businesses, such as Swiss ones.
I am not highly familiar off the top of my head about the differences in Roman and British law, but, what appears to be the basic trick employed there, is that, even by peeling off the supposed curse of Monarchy, everywhere by law still keeps "people" as subjects. For example I have looked at the Constitution of Germany (1951) and it sounds very good in terms of "human rights", it definitely has strong selling points about any kind of physical abuse. However it also contains clauses that explicitly state that a citizen of Germany is a subject of the German government, which, in turn, is a vassal of the European Central Bank.
Similarly in the U. S., the Secretary of the Treasury is also an officer of the IMF, which constitutes a conflict of interest or a foreign agent.
Since the forward progress of the Petrodollar just vanished, with the U. S. govt. at $30T in debt, and, Deutsche Bank sitting on probably twice that much in unsecured derivatives, this system seems to have dug its own grave. Even if it may have "snuk up" on some people for seventy years because they were oblivious to it, its planners share this trait with the CIA:
Capable of failure.
Unfortunately now the upswing of having lost the global death grip, we have the additional burden of 2/3 of the population and their injections, which, in addition to numerous other diseases, damages eggs and reproduction. The situation is an almost direct continuity of The Opium War. An ongoing campaign that we might say is generally against public health.
You argument reinforces and builds on my original post … privatisation of resources and what I was saying, the privatisation of basic human operations to such an extent it’s constricting our ability to live with any sort of independence. Govt regulation at the heart of all this hoodwinked by profiteers..
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