Кабардинка в Москве

[Mashika]

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[kktari]

This is beautiful. Thank you for sharing. Real Man and Woman in perfect harmony!

[Michel Leclerc]

A question of taste.

“Real Man and Woman”... frozen into ice. Monotonous music using only three intervals. Wilhelm Reich: the armoured personality.

Mashika, can you explain how this relates to, for instance, Prokofyev’s Fifth Piano Concerto, Shostakovich’s 14th Symphony, Tchaikovski’s Swan Lake and other ballets, his Sixth Symphony written after he was condemned by his aristocrat friends to kill himself because his loving men was not tolerated? To Repin’s portraits, Malevich’s abstract canvases full of colour and movement, to Tsvetayeva’s and Mandelshtam’s poems? To Tarkovski’s films? Russia is infinitely greater than those interchangeable catatonic dolls.

Here is something that I find uplifting... Shostakovich’s second Piano Trio:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgVvUHxKb58

[Kryztian]

A question of taste.


Well it is, but I think one can like traditional folk culture (presented here with a high tech environment) AND also appreciate Tchaikovsky and Shostakovich. Russian classical musicians in the 19th century (especially The Five (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_(composers))) turned to Russian folk culture for inspiration that would create a Russian classical music that was different from the European mainstream. And also folklore and other forms of Russian popular culture were incorporated.

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Even modern composer like Shostakovich found great inspiration in popular culture, as seen in this brilliant orchestration.
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[Sunny-side-up]

Thank you Mashika.
I often watch these perfumers, they seem quite alien and refreshing.
Delicate in their combined movement but very powerful/strong.

I also love the music which is quite mesmerising.
From a different time and place!
Very noble.
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[Sunny-side-up]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCDBeKenL94

The very fit and dynamic end of the scale.
Vibrant people.

[Andula]

That brings some memories back. Used to watch a lot of it growing up in Czechoslovakia. Thank you for sharing :flower:

[Mashika]

A question of taste.

“Real Man and Woman”... frozen into ice. Monotonous music using only three intervals. Wilhelm Reich: the armoured personality.

Mashika, can you explain how this relates to, for instance, Prokofyev’s Fifth Piano Concerto, Shostakovich’s 14th Symphony, Tchaikovski’s Swan Lake and other ballets, his Sixth Symphony written after he was condemned by his aristocrat friends to kill himself because his loving men was not tolerated? To Repin’s portraits, Malevich’s abstract canvases full of colour and movement, to Tsvetayeva’s and Mandelshtam’s poems? To Tarkovski’s films? Russia is infinitely greater than those interchangeable catatonic dolls.

Here is something that I find uplifting... Shostakovich’s second Piano Trio:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgVvUHxKb58

In general, this i believe is more about appreciating the existence of this dance, i know it is, or could be considered "commoner" music, and it came from dances at weddings and as a courtship practice in those weddings or people's parties. It was not a fine art for sure

But that's just why i think it should be preserved, it's 'frozen in time', it shows a part of history and what people used to feel or like, even if it wasn't a special thing or even is now

Perhaps this is a more finer and artistic dance, but it also incorporates the 'catatonic dolls' :)

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In the end, it all comes down to it, a wedding dance on some random town with some random people, it's just the appreciation of that moment in time and culture, even if it's not a fine art, but yeah fine arts also picked up part of this over time, refined it and then incorporated them into famous dances like the winter dance

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Or this one i posted before long ago, basic elements all over the place again, still a wedding dance in some random town with some random people, it's part of the culture, it's more appreciating the fact that these people culture is basically gone but through sharing elements of it dances like this remain alive for the future and other cultures to see and learn about

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[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you Mashika. I will certainly watch your other videos.

But I did not get across my point, I guess. I am not at all an enemy of folklore nor folkloric music. And Kryztian is certainly right in pointing out the folklore strand in the music of "the Five", and if I may add, more convincingly so in Bartok for instance... And, although it is not fashionable to think that way, German/Austrian classical music is to a large part based on it – referring to Beethoven himself, Schubert and Mahler may suffice.

What puts me off here is the spectacular, electronic concert-hall aggrandisement of this music and dance. Their meaning exists when it is shown in its natural habitat so to speak. Such gigantic spaces are made for Mahler’s Eighth Symphony maybe, or for Gliere’s symphonic cavanses (the comparison between the two ending there). Great "folk traditional" music is as convincing of human beauty as great "classical music" but it should breathe in its own space.

Imagine one of Bach’s solo violin partitas played by three hundred violinists on a stage and electronically blown up with a vengeance. (Such a thing was done, probably, in China.) Beauty exists to be witnessed by our intimacy, being by ourselves or with just a few people – it is a miracle, after all.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCpiD15zaYo