Is James Gilliland a Cosmic Conman?

[Kryztian]

Steve Cambian looks into ethics and practices of James Gilliland of the ECETI ranch and asks if he is a "Cosmic Conman" in the tradition of Corey Goode, David Wilcock, etc. Some of the questionable issues around Gilliland:


When skywatches occur, he seems especially pre occupied with knowing the exact time and then usually knows when "they" will appear. This may be because he is consulting schedules for satellite appearances or that he has people who are flashing lights from a mountain in the distance (which Gilliland is saying is "a portal opening")


He is incredibly hostile to any one who questions what they are seeing is a bona fide paranormal event.


Cliff High stated he was going to the Gilliland ranch with an open but skeptical mind. Gilliland sent him a letter stating that he was not welcome on the ranch.


Gilliland has had three questionable Go Fund Me's, raising $38,000.


Claims to be a Non profit organization, but he is always raising money. Sometimes charges big fees for some events, e.g. $400 for a yoga workshop.


Often hitting on the women who visit the ranch. Sometimes this happens under the guise of "spiritual healing."


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[Delight]

I visited ECETI ranch in around 2011. It was a great experience. I met some very interesting people. One visitor Gary Evans (https://redice.tv/radio-3fourteen/spiritual-re-connection-and-consciousness-technologies) had been to Egypt and experienced hieroglyphs becoming Three dimensional and also being able to understand the meaning from a hyperreal perception. It seems he discovered that the multidimensional thinking of that people was encoded in the glyphs and could be tapped?

He was into toning and demonstrated that toning calls in orbs. They can be photographed so we did a before photography and after and they had greatly increased after toning.

I saw a craft through night vision that had a large visible energy field and probably was the space station according to Gio whom I met there. The Mountain is unreally beautiful seen from the ranch. IMO ECETI is a gathering spot and lots of people have lots of experiences. Mine were all good.

[Inversion]

I found his accounts of bigfoot being on that property to be believable. He said they would come down and eat off the fruit trees. He's been running ECETI for 36 years and there must be a level of truth.

wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilliland%27s_Ranch)

Gilliland's Ranch, also known as Gilliland Ranch,[1] Gilliland's ECETI Ranch, and Sattva Sanctuary,[2][3] is an area of land in Trout Lake, at the base of Mount Adams, in Southwest Washington.[4] The property belongs to James Gilliland, who established Enlightened Contact with ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence (ECETI) and the Self-Mastery Earth Institute in 1986, and has hosted unidentified flying object (UFO) sighting events since 2003.[1] Gilliland reports frequent UFO sightings and "unexplained light shows" on site.[2][3]

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[Jerry Wills]

Hmmmm... My daughter (Christy) went there with a girlfriend. She's quite attractive. James wouldn't leave her alone and kept hitting on her. I wasn't there. Christy told me about this. She was pretty disgusted and warned me to stay away from that creep.

[9ideon]

Often hitting on the women who visit the ranch. Sometimes this happens under the guise of "spiritual healing."

There ya go.

[TravelerJim]

Maybe 10-15 years ago I went to the ranch twice. Very mixed feelings. There was a core group at the time which sort of ran things in a very loose way. Not good vibes from those folks.

At the time the place was run down and I do not see how James was making any money from this venture so that doesn't seem to be the motivation. It was not a well organized operation, and when I was there were plenty of visitors. He charged for camping spots and space a few small buildings you could rent to sleep in. He had to charge something for everything to pay the bills so that is very understandable and prudent.

In a word, it was a messy place.

And with respect to the "sightings" I didn't see anything which was at all conclusive even though he or others claimed them to be.

[aoibhghaire]

Visiting the ECETI ranch year 2000:

I was visiting a friend on the Washington/Oregon border at the time. I was also on my way to a SETI conference in San Jose, Calif. Because I was nearby geographically, I decided to meet James Gilliland at his ranch with two close friends with wide sensory systems, this was about 22 years ago.

James Gilliland 22 years ago:

He kindly showed me his photos and video footage at the time taken over his ranch. He also explained to me his experiential side of his life which provides a measure of his previous background. I was uncomfortable at the time because I felt he had opened himself up in previous years to not only other entities, resulting in a type of stigmata marks on his body which he had shown me as a result of these processes previously taken place. I felt he may have been messed up with other entities/intelligences not discriminating of who he is engaging with. I sensed he unwittingly may have the possibility of US intelligence monitoring his activities at the time. Although he was pleasant and generous with his time we all felt he was gullible and to open without discrimination for anything that may unfold for him. My close friends and I concluded that we were not comfortable being there for any length of time.

Activity at the ECETI ranch near Trout lake/Mount Adams is prone to seismic activity: I had seen seismic maps that showed this correlation.

I was also aware from previous research in Europe, in particular, Hessdalen in Norway, that the phenomenon with its high EM, magnetic and gravity anomalies can produce both para psychological and UFOs type activity on human behavior. Skinwalker Ranch in Utah is another good example. There are many portals around the earth that exhibit these characteristics.

It is common and well known in the literature that repeated relationships between certain spatial regions and UFO like objects correlates with geophysical processes in the production of these levels as piezoelectric like effects. Tectonic strain, without gross seismicity by transient extremely fine local isolation of other normal geophysical forces correlates with apparent effects that relate to episodes upon human beings. The images taken of objects at Yakima are similar to Mount Adams

[Bill Ryan]

And with respect to the "sightings" I didn't see anything which was at all conclusive even though he or others claimed them to be.I visited there twice, in 2008 and 2012. Each time, I was just there for one night, and the first time there no way was I expecting to see anything at all.

But both evenings, I saw bright lights zipping all over the night sky, changing direction, slowing down, accelerating, flaring up, and doing all the things James regularly describes. These weren't satellites or aircraft. I was astonished and impressed.

Re James himself, this is a different matter. I completely share everyone's profound misgivings here.

[WhiteFeather]

Not to judge, but I actually thought James was a normal spiritual and cool kinda guy, till what I'm reading on this thread. Taking advantage of women, looking for handouts Is he on some power trip now?

[Blacklight43]

The happiest people I know are evaluating and improving themselves.
Then unhappy people are usually evaluating and judging others!

[RunningDeer]

The happiest people I know are evaluating and improving themselves.
Then unhappy people are usually evaluating and judging others!



Judgement is different than catty. Judgement to some may be discernment for others. I’ve experienced unhappiness because I was naive and trusting of some characters. Discernment is a necessary part of a quality life.


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[Ernie Nemeth]

I see it more as type matching. Some personalities mesh, some don't. It can also be about timing - the wrong place at the wrong time. Any of these can lead to alarm bells ringing and suspicions rising. These can then be over-emphasized, with little things becoming over-blown in importance.

That's how I like to think of it, anyways. Luckily, others have a keen sense in such matters and I have been surprised numerous times by those that have been exposed as frauds in the past.

Like many, I will stay neutral until all the evidence is brought forward.

My judgment is that I won't judge those that decide to judge.

It took a long time to convince me about David Wilcock. But, in the end, they were correct in their assessment.


As a generality, such talk only re-enforces my personal belief that we are truly flawed beings...that the price of admission to this reality is to pay homage to the evil one. It is this 'favoured son', this fallen angel, the dark prince itself that has fashioned this world and who in its arrogance requires 'free will' and is hailed 'light-bringer' by the ignorant.
Only those who first extinguish their light need 'free will'.
Only those in the dark need saving.

[Kryztian]

The happiest people I know are evaluating and improving themselves.
Then unhappy people are usually evaluating and judging others!

If you fail to judge someone based on their suspicious behavior and you get conned, swindled, molested, etc. by them, are you still one of the happiest people?

[Blacklight43]

Happiness is a choice! I leave judgement to a higher power! And use discernment in between!

[RunningDeer]

Happiness is a choice! I leave judgement to a higher power! And use discernment in between!

Yes, happiness is a choice. Many are unaware of their addiction to a dark cloud over their head. I’d add that it can be a challenge to walk through the minefield of ankle biters, and those who are infested with them.

[WhiteFeather]

After most of this Spiritual ET Mumbo Jumbo, I still find much value in several UFOlogists in this field. And to name some here, Linda Moulton Howe, Richard Dolan, Bill Ryan/Kerry Cassidy.

To this day I still listen to them and find value. I've truly enjoyed Bob Deane tremendously, but he's since gone home. I so miss Bob very much.

[Blastolabs]

But both evenings, I saw bright lights zipping all over the night sky, changing direction, slowing down, accelerating, flaring up, and doing all the things James regularly describes. These weren't satellites or aircraft. I was astonished and impressed.



Have you recently looked in to the sky where you are at night?

I've seen "stars" zipping about the almost every night from a big city in Colorado since May 2021

When I camp far from the city lights there are dozens of these things in the sky each night.

Definitely not satellites or planes, they often do 90 degree turns instantly or zig and zag around in specific regions of the sky.

I would say their behavior is "playful" much like a fish swimming around in a fish tank.

Sounds similar to what you describe, it seems this activity as seen at ECETI, Marfa Texas and others that was once more restricted geographically has become common all over the globe.

Just curious if you actively look into your sky and if you see similar things now.

[mojo]

The OP question is about James G. being a cosmic conman. It seems that it's also become a personal attack on his character. After my own personal attack a few years back by a former trusted colleague accusing me of hoaxing it was really hard to understand why and Bill himself provided a measure of comfort by saying, "when your over a target you should expect flak." That really helped. One thing I value is personal integrity and perhaps Gilliland is guilty of those things mentioned but I go back and think of the hurt caused so James deserves the opportunity to address those accusations.

His dedication in the field is honorable though. So imo he is not a cosmic conman. I have no opinion on James personally except he shares the same interest.

[Sunny-side-up]

After most of this Spiritual ET Mumbo Jumbo, I still find much value in several UFOlogists in this field. And to name some here, Linda Moulton Howe, Richard Dolan, Bill Ryan/Kerry Cassidy.

To this day I still listen to them and find value. I've truly enjoyed Bob Deane tremendously, but he's since gone home. I so miss Bob very much.

WhiteFeather, I'll bump that :bump:

[Sunny-side-up]

The OP question is about James G. being a cosmic conman. It seems that it's also become a personal attack on his character. After my own personal attack a few years back by a former trusted colleague accusing me of hoaxing it was really hard to understand why and Bill himself provided a measure of comfort by saying, "when your over a target you should expect flak." That really helped. One thing I value is personal integrity and perhaps Gilliland is guilty of those things mentioned but I go back and think of the hurt caused so James deserves the opportunity to address those accusations.

His dedication in the field is honorable though. So imo he is not a cosmic conman. I have no opinion on James personally except he shares the same interest.

and a :bump: for your post mojo :sun:

As for the UFO's of the orb type as seen at the ranch, well yes I would say elctro-magnetic, seismic active energies from the mountain, but then such energies would probably attract UFO's so, which is what o.0

[amor]

An ORB of light is part of a story told by an old lady living in Grenada. She had one follow her up a narrow alleyway in their town. Technologically, this could be similar to a traveling camera from a UFO company. Smaller orbs of light have been attributed to the spirits of the dead. I found an image of one in a photo I took of a tree in the yard of a family which recently experienced a death. It was not visible other than in the photograph.

[amor]

There is no mention of Mr. Gilliland's family. If he was alone, he might value the presence of a pretty lady. That does not make him a villain, although it might make some ladies uncomfortable.

[Eva2]

I visited there about 8 or so years ago and saw lots of interesting lights scooting across the skies and disappearing into the mountain. Also, saw lots of orbs around people. However, one of the biggest turn offs for me was a story mentioned on this forum where James was at some sort of a conference with several other people and joked about shooting a cougar and giving it a third eye - he thought that was funny - me not so much.

[Delight]

As for the UFO's of the orb type as seen at the ranch, well yes I would say elctro-magnetic, seismic active energies from the mountain, but then such energies would probably attract UFO's so, which is what o.0

I think it is probable that ECETI holds a charge.

On a bigger note, Only a few people so far have been there. I think James feels he is important because he lives in this space of the Ranch. I thought he was at that time skimming the surface of esoterica. For instance, we all gathered and while together, he invited a woman to sit with him at a small table and demonstrate table tipping as a "greeting" from beyond. I honestly think that almost all people "teaching" conspiritual stuff are grifters.

A grifter uses talants of manipulation to their benefit. I want to share that each of us who fall into something and later realize it was a grift feel betrayed. I had that happen to me just this week. I became interested in the astrologer Gregory Paul Martin because says he is an expert astrologer and can explain natal "fixed star" positions and current progressions. I bit and paid months ago and then had a reading on zoom.

He showed me a chart from astrodienist (astro.com). He promised a several page written report and it was a 30 minute dialogue. he sent the report that day. I also visited the astrodienist website and read some free stuff.

Imagine my surprise to read the report and see he had actually read the report to me in the session. Imagine my surprise to see he had copy pasted from the same report I had read earlier WORD FOR WORD. If I paid $67 on the website, I'd get a small booklet on progressions by Liz Greene. He obviously likes Liz Greene too. He is a boaster, and he is a GRIFTER!

I MUST LOOK at why I chose his services and forgive this lack of discernment. I did send an email telling him I found his source and he plagiarized... But I did not accuse him of anything speculative or demand a refund. I intend that this was the last TIME I feed the Conspirituality Grift.

I'd go back to Trout Lake. It's very far from me and I bet I won't. Maybe it has deteriorated as a space of interesting people and inspiration? A recent report would be interesting.

[Sue (Ayt)]

This recent Eceti Newsletter makes it appear that all is not so well up at the ranch.
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August 20, 2022 Issues 44

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Aloha, ECETI News

As I write this newsletter, I am on a plane destined for Hawaii. A much needed sabbatical considering all the drama in the UFO community. I would caution everyone to use extreme discernment, people and things are not what they seem. There are Manchurian candidates sent into the community to create chaos, separation and division. They are very convincing at putting on a show using other people’s information and playing the victim. When found out or when their agendas are not met they attack along with the naïve saviors pulled into their webs. I am not going to mention names just observe the chaos and misdirected saviors with good intentions that follow in their wake. Observe how the posers are just repeating someone else’s information.

There are the standard shills, planned opposition and controlled narratives. It is no wonder contact has not happened with the masses or those who profess to represent the masses. Do not fall for the gossip, rumors, character assassinations or the division games. True or not it is a diversion, follow your heart and move on. We are finding out now that those professing to not partake in the drama, are often knee-deep in it.

If you are looking outside of yourself for contact, you have been diverted. The councils and fleets are here waiting for those who rise to the occasion. They are loving, joyous, heart centered beings just a thought away. There are many starseeds being initiated and activated. The planetary liberation from draconian forces, the grey alliance, the war and disease profiteers, those who have suppressed humanities evolution is well underway. The petty bickering, competition, backstabbing, betrayals and power struggles are the tools used by the dark forces in every institution. It will get you nowhere concerning contact with spiritually and technologically advanced off worlders and those based in the Inner Earth and greatly inhibit your own healing and ascension. It will also get you nowhere with those who are authentic.

The masks are coming down, the true agendas and motives will be made known. In many cases one only has to ask where the evidence is to support their claims. They are appearing regularly to the authentic. The regenerate ETs many contacted in the past are in hiding. Many were used to further their negative agendas, some still are being remotely influenced psychically or through chips and implants. The serpent beings, royal reptilians, tall greys and their deep state puppets are still influencing those who are naïve, do not clear unseen negative influences, or have ill intent and motive. Again, use discernment. They will promote AI, brain chips as fashionable, population reduction, environmental scams, scenarios such as themselves or their contacts as saviors, everyone will be beamed up, this is all an illusion so do not act. Some will say ignore the loss of life, liberty, the poverty and disease forced on humanity. Some unseen force is going to clean it all up. Ever hear the expression, “God helps those who help themselves?” Best be your own savior, become sovereign, make your own personal God/Creator/Great spirit connection or contact with higher dimensional beings.

Many ask where do I start? Start with self. The tools and techniques are free on the website www.eceti.org under the healing section . The Self Mastery classes are uploaded on Eceti TV. Learn how to heal unseen negative influences, clear the wounds, traumas and wrong conclusions from past experiences, find spiritual practices that work for you, most important get out in nature, take your shoes off. Be discerning when selecting a counselor again, not all can do what they claim. Find those with a good track record.

Nothing is hidden with spiritually advanced beings. Everyone’s spiritual adeptness, true agenda and motives are known. Finding authentic people in the UFO community with pure intentions and motives is like looking for a needle in a haystack. It has become political. Just an observation after almost 40 years in the field. Many started out with good intentions, many in the field have to up their game. There will always be those that continue to deceive the masses for notoriety and financial gain. Unfortunately, those at the top got there through making concessions to those controlling the narrative willfully or in ignorance. If you follow those controlling the narrative to the top you will find evil beyond imagination and practices many in denial cannot even fathom.

If you have chosen the main stream media, many of the internet or cable shows to form your be “lie” f s concerning off world visitors most likely you have been misinformed. Most are deceptive and entertainment only. It is by design. In the days to come it is imperative to develop your own inner sensitivity, self-mastery, and learn how to heal unseen negative influences. Stay out of the power struggles, character assassinations, gossip and rumors and make your own contact. Again those who are not authentic will use these newsletters as their own information parroting them almost verbatim to give themselves false credibility. It is not about empowering the individual, it is about gathering followers and those who gather followers are networking for low level or regenerate ETs. Look behind the veil. What is being presented is often not what is seen. Ignore the words and feel the soul and the intention of the one delivering the message.

This newsletter is a two-edged sword and covers both sides of the coin. It is imperative to step out of the chaos and drama if you are going to ascend or make contact. It does not mean giving evil free reign, it means setting boundaries, choosing not to participate, practicing loving detachment saying what needs to be said and doing what needs to be done staying the course. ECETI has followed this path for almost 40 years, the contacts and ships have been documented with multiple eyewitnesses, photos and videos. There have been too many to document spontaneous healings and beneficial initiations and contacts. Despite this there are always the posers, those who want to make a name for themselves, those driven by ego, those of ill intent, those willingly or in ignorance driven by darker forces constantly slinging their own mud not willing to look at a basic principle. When you point a finger at another there are usually three pointing back. There is a long list of people who came to ECETI with personal agendas and when those agendas were not fulfilled just as the victims they became the persecutors. They are gathering their wagons as we speak yet we have weathered many a storm. Do not worry we are protected and after years of this we don’t take it personal. We are like a giant rock, still here while the mud slingers and the ego driven have faced away into obscurity. What we find odd is even when it is made incredibly clear even by those who started the gossip and rumors there was no merit there have been no apologies yet the very same people want to jump on the ECETI band wagon due to the monumental increase in UFO activity. If one is of any moral integrity and believe the rumors they would have nothing to do with ECETI yet here they are trying to jump on the band wagon and use our photos, videos and information. We are all about forgiveness yet trust is earned and betraying that trust closes the gate.

That and the other aforementioned information is why we at ECETI are doing our own thing. We have seen the benefits of our service to others over the years. How can anyone with a “Soul or God connection,” do otherwise? Which also begs the question how can anyone with a “Soul or God connection,” not see through the true motives and intentions of those creating the problems. Over the years we have seen it all. Unfortunately, it is getting harder and harder to put on conferences with speakers with impeccable integrity coming from the heart in service to Humanity and the Earth. It is said there with be two of the city and one of the family. I believe they were referring to spiritual family. I believe in these trying times that ratio has gone out the window. We will leave with three questions. Are you creating Heaven on Earth? What do you have to show for it? Are you ready to try something different? God/Creator/Great Spirit and the benevolent multidimensional universe and those inhabiting it are waiting for the answer and the action. People ask, why did you make the T-shirt? I am not your father, your mother or your x lover, I am just sitting here. Now you know. It might also explain why I never answer my phone. Especially if I do not know you. We have bigger fish to fry, those with open minds loving hearts and pure intentions to assist. Those that are ready and open to the awakening and healing process. We don’t have the luxury of the drama. If you plan on ascending neither do you.

Be well, be happy, be of service,
James Gilliland www.eceti.org

[Kryztian]

This recent Eceti Newsletter makes it appear that all is not so well up at the ranch.


This letter is so long and yet so vague, it is 100% ambiguous as to what he is actually talking about. What is wrong in Ufology? What are the issues? Who is behind it? Who is it impacting? Who are these "Manchurian Candidates" he is talking about? I can see a lot of people reading this it and asking "what is he talking about"? If there really a problemic situation or threat to his readers out there, wouldn't he want to identify it so that they could avoid it and protect themselves?

If there is another way to read this letter I would love to know, but I can only see that it is a response to Steve Cambian's criticism of Gilliland and his ranch. If that is so, he has zero answers to any of Gilliand's questions and zero puts effort into rebutting his criticisms. If someone falsely accused you of being a fraud, a hoaxer, and a sex predator, and you wanted to respond, isn't the best way to deal with the specific allegations and rebut them in a direct manner?

Since answering these questions are probably a lose-lose situation for Gilliland, he makes the vaguest attack possible about "Manchurian candidates" and/or makes it sound like a problem of ego, as he promotes his free healing info on his website (which is mostly not free, but links to for pay sessions and services he and other people offer.)

Corey Goode and David Wilcock could probably learn a thing or two from Gilliland about how to deflect rational criticism and launch a passive/aggressive attack on critics by studying this letter.

[Bill Ryan]

This recent Eceti Newsletter makes it appear that all is not so well up at the ranch.


This letter is so long and yet so vague, it is 100% ambiguous as to what he is actually talking about. What is wrong in Ufology? What are the issues? Who is behind it? Who is it impacting? Who are these "Manchurian Candidates" he is talking about? Yes, he could have been just a tiny bit clearer. :)

But it has to be possible that it's Corey Goode he's talking about, and didn't want to mention the name because then he'd be in a lawsuit as well. Corey and James G were in close cahoots for quite a few years. Maybe that's yet another of Corey's alliances that's just broken.

[norman]

James Gilliland - . . . If you are looking outside of yourself for contact, you have been diverted. . . .



Maybe he's talking about Dolan and his cerebral ilk.

This is a 'spiritual' watershed. The divide is far from the extreme ends. The area around the middle is far harder to discern well.

I don't say that to raise James above Richard but to say James is reaching a point of making a point that has to be made. To me, James seems to be mostly dabbling in places I wouldn't go, myself, and the cerebral absolution at the other end is a place I don't want to be either.

Seeking the truth on our own predefined terms isn't going to cut it. Seeking the truth through fantasy musings isn't either. What an interesting dilemma.

Higher consciousness comes in more than one energetic form, be careful to keep the right energy in priority over the consciousness or knowing you seek.

[Kryztian]

This recent Eceti Newsletter makes it appear that all is not so well up at the ranch.


This letter is so long and yet so vague, it is 100% ambiguous as to what he is actually talking about. What is wrong in Ufology? What are the issues? Who is behind it? Who is it impacting? Who are these "Manchurian Candidates" he is talking about?

But it has to be possible that it's Corey Goode he's talking about,

Yes, I thought the "Manchurian Candidate" could have been a reference to Corey Goode. I checked Twitter and did a few searches on them and didn't see any indications that Gilliland is having a feud with anyone, so perhaps this "newsletter" is pre-emptory to a situation that has yet to become public.

The last post I can see regarding that would indicate anything about the status of their relationship looks like is is good. From last January:
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