Do you drink?

[DaveToo]

I wasn't sure which would be the most appropriate forum/sub-forum for this thread.
(I also thought of the Human Condition).
I guess this one should do. :)

Here's another poll checking the pulse of Avaloners.
This one should be interesting. :)

Of course I am referring to alcoholic drinks.

[ExomatrixTV]

Am literally allergic to alcohol ... needless to say I never ever experienced how it is to be "drunk" ... did I miss out something "profound" because of it?

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[avid]

Drinking alchohol is a cultural scenario, so it is nothing to be worried about. This poll could be misleading.

[thepainterdoug]

i actully stopped 2 weeks ago. went on a keto diet, lost 5 pounds, but miss the nightcap

[ExomatrixTV]

Is this not a very personal (private) question? ... So how are you so sure we see a correct representation via public voting on this? ... Maybe people who have a drinking problem will not vote!

[DaveToo]

Drinking alchohol is a cultural scenario, so it is nothing to be worried about. This poll could be misleading.

I don't see how this poll could be misleading?

The only thing I thought of was where is the most appropriate place to post the poll.

As I mentioned the two places that came to mind after reviewing all the possibilities were:
'Health and Wellness' and 'The Human Condition'.

I could have gone with either one. Then I saw a post in 'Health and Wellness' about Caffeine,
so I thought, caffeine, alcohol, sure.

I want to make something clear, since this is just the start of the poll...

There are two main schools of thought;

1. drinking alcohol is beneficial
2. drinking alcohol, should be avoided, it's unhealthy

I am making NO judgment about this whatsoever.
I will let the chips fall where they may. :)

[DaveToo]

Is this not a very personal (private) question? ... So how are you so sure we see a correct representation via public voting on this? ... Maybe people who have a drinking problem will not vote!

First question... a private question?
I don't see why it should be private.
Don't forget, anyone can vote and they don't have to reveal how they voted.

I am NOT looking for a correct representation, either of the general public or Avaloners.
I am just looking for a general impression from Avaloners, that's all. Nothing scientific here. :)

I did a poll before I believe about the people here who were vaxxed.
To me drinking is no more personal than being vaxxed.

Again, if someone feels it's too private, they simply don't have to vote. :)



Am literally allergic to alcohol ... needless to say I never ever experienced how it is to be "drunk" ... did I miss out something "profound" because of it?

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

I've never been drunk either, so I can't answer your question. :)

[ExomatrixTV]

Most famous drinking quote:


"Do I drink a lot because I have problems ... or do I have problems because I drink (a lot) ?"

[Mike]

between "rarely" and "regularly", i might put "sometimes". that would accurately describe me.

[Casey Claar]

I take it the question is referencing the present?

I have been drunk a lot, lol, ( in the day ), I was a Las Vegas casino cocktail waitress in my 20s. It was a period in life, like all periods in life are. I am approaching my 60s now. The past 20+ years there have not been many instances of alcohol consumption, in the few I can think of it is a shot or two of sake in some of my Asian soup broths, perhaps a glass of wine a year if I am spending Thanksgiving with friends or family. Now-a-days I have far better things to do than drink.


Casey

[DaveToo]

I take it the question is referencing the present?

I have been drunk a lot, lol, ( in the day ), I was a Las Vegas casino cocktail waitress in my 20s. It was a period in life, like all periods in life are. I am approaching my 60s now. The past 20+ years there have not been many instances of alcohol consumption, in the few I can think of it is a shot or two of sake in some of my Asian soup broths, perhaps a glass of wine a year if I am spending Thanksgiving with friends or family. Now-a-days I have far better things to do than drink.


Casey

Thanks for your thoughts Casey.
Yes I was referring to the present.

So if someone was a heavy/moderate drinker previously but doesn't drink at all now,
they would choose 'Never'.

Personally, I fall into the 'Rarely/special occasions' category.
That's where I've always been.

I'm one of those people who gets a hangover/headache from just a couple glasses of wine!

[Satori]

I'm Irish. So,.....

But I do not drink to the point of becoming drunk. I do not like the feeling and I do not like how I feel the next day...or two. I do enjoy a beer several times a week. My favorite beer is La Cumbra Elevated. It is a New Mexico brew. An IPA. It is the best beer I have ever enjoyed. Bar none.

I will sip on wine from time-to-time. I do not care for hard liquor.

[indiana]

Been off it since Feb 2015 - 22nd of Feb 2015 to be specific :-) After a looooong "engagement" with it. And while I can never say "Never again" i can and will say "I hope never again". I'm not a moralist about it tho. Each to their own.

[Inversion]

I quit drinking in 2007. My father told me the hangovers would get worse as you get older lasting days or weeks.

[DeDukshyn]

Is this not a very personal (private) question? ... So how are you so sure we see a correct representation via public voting on this? ... Maybe people who have a drinking problem will not vote!

Hmmm . I suppose the definition of "problem" might be quite different from person to person.

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I don't drink daily, but nearly, and I don't like getting "drunk", but I do like my craft beers, making fruit wine, and I have some "hard" kombucha brewing right now. To one person that might be nothing, but to me I would like to cut down a little, so I suppose I could say it's a "problem" for me until I get to where I am more happy with my consumption, even though its not disrupting my life, which would more clearly be a "problem".

I actually enjoy fermented foods and beverages of all types, and am fascinated by the interesting complexities of flavours that can be developed through the process. Needless to say I'm not a fan of much of "flavoured" drinks but prefer natural, even unfiltered brews - plus, drinking unfiltered, unpasteurized brews can help add probiotics to your gut. There's both potential harms and potential benefits, as there is with most consumables, I suppose.

The poll is really a measure of how oneself considers their own drinking habit, as there is no objective quantification here. "Regularly" to one person might be a few drinks a week, to another, a few drinks a day. Who is to know? So in light of that I ask, what is the expected way the results are to be evaluated other than an insight to how each participant views their own drinking behaviour - whatever that may be?

[mizo]

More than I should, but not so much that I don't care about it.

[bluestflame]

technically if you chew before you swallow it's eating not drinking but i have yet to test this in a court of law

[Losus4]

Every 6 months or so I'll drink a bottle of vodka for medicinal purposes. I intuitively feel it has a very cleansing effect on my gut health. After the hangover I always feel incredibly vibrant and healed. I don't get this feeling with other types of alcohol.

[pyrangello]

That's interesting lotus 4 , I stopped drinking whiskey, was getting aggressive , mean and started having vertigo. Stopped a few years ago. I'm Irish and polish, polish side lived in hamtramack ,Michigan back in the day. Hamtramack was located in Detroit, 2 square miles , all polish , most bars in a concentrated area in the world in the 40s and 50s . 400 in 2 sq miles, lol. My great aunt nellie was the heaviest drinker in the family, pint of Kessler whiskey. And pack of camel cigarettes everyday for 45 years.she lived til she was 84. Me now, a few good pints of Guinness is fine with me. Hamtramack is no more polish and is a very diluted city. But the stories I could tell you. Over a pint that is. 🤗

[delfine]

" I don't have a drinking problem... I have a drinking solution" :bigsmile:

[Spiral]

Does the Pope poop in the woods ?


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[DaveToo]

Is this not a very personal (private) question? ... So how are you so sure we see a correct representation via public voting on this? ... Maybe people who have a drinking problem will not vote!

Hmmm . I suppose the definition of "problem" might be quite different from person to person.

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I don't drink daily, but nearly, and I don't like getting "drunk", but I do like my craft beers, making fruit wine, and I have some "hard" kombucha brewing right now. To one person that might be nothing, but to me I would like to cut down a little, so I suppose I could say it's a "problem" for me until I get to where I am more happy with my consumption, even though its not disrupting my life, which would more clearly be a "problem".

I actually enjoy fermented foods and beverages of all types, and am fascinated by the interesting complexities of flavours that can be developed through the process. Needless to say I'm not a fan of much of "flavoured" drinks but prefer natural, even unfiltered brews - plus, drinking unfiltered, unpasteurized brews can help add probiotics to your gut. There's both potential harms and potential benefits, as there is with most consumables, I suppose.

The poll is really a measure of how oneself considers their own drinking habit, as there is no objective quantification here. "Regularly" to one person might be a few drinks a week, to another, a few drinks a day. Who is to know? So in light of that I ask, what is the expected way the results are to be evaluated other than an insight to how each participant views their own drinking behaviour - whatever that may be?

I didn't want to over-think this one.
As I said up-thread I wanted to keep it simple and unscientific. :)

I also mentioned that some will view drinking as healthy while
others will view it as unhealthy.

I'm non-judgmental.

As far as quantity is concerned, it's personal, on a case-by-case situation.
As you said, to one person, regularly might be once a week, to another it might mean every day.

The poll is meant to accommodate all of those situations.

I started with the two extremes and then wanted to just add two choices in the middle.
For the purposes of 'an overall feel' poll, I think they're sufficient. :)

[liderr]

Is this not a very personal (private) question? ... So how are you so sure we see a correct representation via public voting on this? ... Maybe people who have a drinking problem will not vote!

First question... a private question?
I don't see why it should be private.
Don't forget, anyone can vote and they don't have to reveal how they voted.

I am NOT looking for a correct representation, either of the general public or Avaloners.
I am just looking for a general impression from Avaloners, that's all. Nothing scientific here. :)

I did a poll before I believe about the people here who were vaxxed.
To me drinking is no more personal than being vaxxed.

Again, if someone feels it's too private, they simply don't have to vote. :)



Am literally allergic to alcohol ... needless to say I never ever experienced how it is to be "drunk" ... did I miss out something "profound" because of it?

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

I've never been drunk either, so I can't answer your question. :) I've
been sober since 3/17/94. Partied my brains out for 25 years/ lost much time/and some dreams, but no real regrets.

[Open Minded Dude]

Sometimes when I have a Netflix/Prime watch evening going I need a beer or two, but never more. So I never drink a lot and never have a hangover so I think I have a good control over it. 25 years ago it was different when I was almost one step away from becoming an alcoholic when drank about 8-9 beers every (!) evening (beer = a beer can with 0.5 litres). That was a lot but I managed to get out of it before I fell into the trap. So now it is just the occasional drink without really getting drunk.

[Strat]

I'm not sure where, but I'm somewhere on the scale of alcoholism. Not proud of it or ashamed of it, is what it is. Definitely need help but I'm working on it and haven't given up.

[Ivanhoe]

I've been a bartender on and off for 25+ years.
I used to drink a lot, mostly beer, but honestly I just got tired of being around it and seeing how it affected my patrons, sometimes adversely.
I don't bar tend anymore either,..had enough of that too. lol
I still love a good scotch or Irish whiskey, Bass Pale Ale, and damn near any dark beer (lol), but my alcohol consumption has been severely curtailed in recent years, mostly because I'm a social drinker and I don't go out much anymore.
Except for the previously mentioned scotch, I just don't keep it in the house.
Nowadays a 6 pack of beer will stay in the fridge for months. lol

[Spiral]

I'm not sure where, but I'm somewhere on the scale of alcoholism. Not proud of it or ashamed of it, is what it is. Definitely need help but I'm working on it and haven't given up.

Well, if you were a European it would probably fall some where into the spectrum of "dealing with life" .

[DeDukshyn]

Sometimes when I have a Netflix/Prime watch evening going I need a beer or two, but never more. So I never drink a lot and never have a hangover so I think I have a good control over it. 25 years ago it was different when I was almost one step away from becoming an alcoholic when drank about 8-9 beers every (!) evening (beer = a beer can with 0.5 litres). That was a lot but I managed to get out of it before I fell into the trap. So now it is just the occasional drink without really getting drunk.

Ooof. That's getting close the level where physical dependence starts to kicks in. I've known people who "needed" alcohol to even remotely function physically, it certainly isn't a nice place to be. At my worst I got up to about 2 liters of beer a day (6 pack of 355ml, never did hard liquor), it was at this point I could start to see the negative impacts and cut it back to a 1-3, and not every day - I have a fairly high tolerance, so I can barely feel anything after even three. I'd like to keep it to just three days a week though.

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I'm not sure where, but I'm somewhere on the scale of alcoholism. Not proud of it or ashamed of it, is what it is. Definitely need help but I'm working on it and haven't given up.

Best of luck on working on it, process is goal, and most importantly don't beat yourself up over it - that usually just leads to more drinking ;)

[Satori]

More than I should, but not so much that I don't care about it.

I have a confession, of sorts. When I read your post earlier today, not having at that time yet imbibed in an adult libation, I did not understand it. But now that I’ve had a pint of La Cumbre Elevated (an IPA beer brewed in New Mexico) and read it again, I readily understood it.

Not sure what that says about....

[DeDukshyn]

More than I should, but not so much that I don't care about it.

I have a confession, of sorts. When I read your post earlier today, not having at that time yet imbibed in an adult libation, I did not understand it. But now that I’ve had a pint of La Cumbre Elevated (an IPA beer brewed in New Mexico) and read it again, I readily understood it.

Not sure what that says about....

Lol ... I also had to read it twice when I first read it, then I thought to myself ... "ahhh, I see what you did there."

[mizo]

More than I should, but not so much that I don't care about it.

I have a confession, of sorts. When I read your post earlier today, not having at that time yet imbibed in an adult libation, I did not understand it. But now that I’ve had a pint of La Cumbre Elevated (an IPA beer brewed in New Mexico) and read it again, I readily understood it.

Not sure what that says about....










Lol ... I also had to read it twice when I first read it, then I thought to myself ... "ahhh, I see what you did there."

That sounds like a lovely 'pick-me-up' :Angel:

Cheers to your best of health ! :beer:

[Wind]

Water, mostly. Mixed with some carbonated spring water, although the tap water quality is excellent here.

As the question is really about alcohol, I would say that once in a while I'll have just one drink and it's never beer for me, I just don't like it and I can't consume wheat or yeast anyways without quite the complications. I prefer long drinks, rum with coke or very rarely a glass of wine. I've not been drunk ever and don't really know how a hangover from alcohol feels like, but thankfully my system doesn't really tolerate alcohol or sugars so I should in fact stop consuming any and possibly soon I will. Also here in this gloomy and dark country many people have been or are alcoholics as the spirits become like a crutch or a sweet consuming lover to them. It tends to be partly genetic too, it runs in the family so I wouldn't want to be consumed by that devil either. I've seen what it does to people and it ain't pretty.

[Le Chat]

I worked out that I was spending £1,125 per annum on cider. Yesterday I decided that enough was enough and plan to be alcohol-free.

[DeDukshyn]

I worked out that I was spending £1,125 per annum on cider. Yesterday I decided that enough was enough and plan to be alcohol-free.

Geez, that's nothing - I know people who spend a lot more than that on Starbucks. One of the reasons I started brewing some of my own alcohol was for cost considerations ... never tried making cider though, but working on some hard kombucha which would be a bit similar in flavour I think.

The only issue with home brew is it usually isn't as clean tasting as store bought, and you can lose an entire batch for what appears nothing more than the stars didn't align quite right - which is a bit disheartening when it happens.

[onawah]

Beer drinkers beware!
Starting at about 1 hour into this video, whistleblower Dr. Lee Merritt divulges the cabal's plan to infect people with mind control tech via beer.
(I didn't need another reason not to drink, but if I did, that's a good one... :sad: )
Further in, she talks about urine therapy and research into it's potential for protection from the new toxins in the COVID jabs, etc., repair of damaged DNA, etc.
(Urine contains stem cells, btw and is commonly used for snakebite.)
Dr. Lee Merritt - Targeted DNA Harvesting & Damage, De-Population, Globalists IMMUNE, Repairing DNA
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[DaveToo]

Beer drinkers beware!
Starting at about 1 hour into this video, whistleblower Dr. Lee Merritt divulges the cabal's plan to infect people with mind control tech via beer.
(I didn't need another reason not to drink, but if I did, that's a good one... :sad: )
Further in, she talks about urine therapy and research into it's potential for protection from the new toxins in the COVID jabs, etc., repair of damaged DNA, etc. ...

Dr. Merritt @ 12:48

"When you mix fear and confusion you get anxiety and that is what the
Stockholm syndrome is.
When you're so anxious, people cannot live in an anxiety zone very long so they'll do anything to get out of it, including running out and taking an injection of an unknown, unproven genetic agent.

You know people did not do the same due diligence on this that they would have done buying a used car."

It's so true! Great line.

[DeDukshyn]

...

You know people did not do the same due diligence on this that they would have done buying a used car."

It's so true! Great line.

That was a point I always tried to make to people ... "Would you buy a car for your family made from experimental material that wasn't properly safety tested, had no guarantees it would work, and then the manufacturer hid the results of the little safety testing that was done?"

[RunningDeer]

See also Dr. Amandha Vollmer’s thoughts on the topic of Urine Therapy: “We are our own medicine cabinet (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1793-Taking-the-piss-Your-own-best-medicine...&p=1499417&viewfull=1#post1499417).” She also shares her POV on how drinking effects her body.

[Frankie Pancakes]

Reminds me of an annual visit to the doctor for a check up. He asked if I drank alcohol and how much.
I said I drink 6 beers a week. That's fine he said.
I neglected to tell him that I drank all six on either a Friday or Saturday evening.

[Patient]

I think we still have a few bottles of alcohol from our wedding - I think there might even be a small box in the garage too! Lol!

If I move again, I am not taking them with me - no need.

Maybe once or twice a year I will have a couple vodka and orange drinks. I had a couple drinks on my birthday. I have been so busy with so many things that any drinking would just get in the way and then I would regret the time lost. I have so many things I like to do, want to do again, want to try for the first time, and on and on. Just taking care of my family and the house and our business - I don't ever seem to be caught up! :)

I have a few thoughts on a couple threads I wanted to start, but I don't have the time to commit to them.

Yes, I am on here a lot, but I am doing other things simultaneously. :)

[Scorpio Girl]

Yes I do and really enjoy it. I drink about 2 gin and tonics a day but not always. But also enjoy Bourbon, Rum, Vodka, Bacardi wine, champagne and liquors, beer but not all at the same time lol. Did I miss any out?Maybe when I'm a real old lady I'll drink water. I find alcohol goes really well with music, dinners with friends. All things in moderation is the key.

[Mashika]

Maybe when I'm a real old lady I'll drink water. I find alcohol goes really well with music, dinners with friends. All things in moderation is the key.


Oh no, oh no.. oh no no no no no.. :P

I will blame you for influencing me into the dark side of the vodka path :P

* I just needed an excuse, i was already on that path* :P

[Ernie Nemeth]

I don't like to drink at all.

It fogs up my mind for days after.

But, my friends drink and I like my friends. So I drink to get along. And it's fun while drinking. Getting home is always a drag, having to find numerous bathrooms on the way, all while drunk and staggering.

I prefer a blunt over drinking every time.

[Rawhide68]

Good to see you all, I am alive, have been facing some struggles both physical an mental.


Rene Descartes Quote

By 'God', I understand, a substance which is infinite, independent, supremely intelligent, supremely powerful, and which created both myself and everything else [...] that exists.

All these attributes are such that, the more carefully I concentrate on them, the less possible it seems that they could have originated from me alone. So, from what has been said it must be concluded that God necessarily exists.
//Rene Descartes

[Rawhide68]

There is so much I couldnt talk about right now.
I crashed with a newbought bicycle.

Well now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oD0W6SSBUA

Leibach is not taking the war closer by going to North Korea, so neither should we

[janette]

Well I do like a good spiced rum.Not to excess though,my mind and body can't cope with it. Hangovers are not fun at fifty. In my twenties I used to drink Carlsberg special brew..a lager so strong you could get very drunk very cheaply ..ah happy days 😏

[Rawhide68]

"Carlsberg special brew..a lager so strong you could get very drunk very cheaply ..ah happy days 😏 "
Thanks Janette You happy fx
If I had been there I would have emptyed the damn dam.

[I am B]

Every music has a fitting situation to tingle the senses, and so do drinks.

A strong Voll Damm fits the jazzy concert nights like nothing else, a fresh Sangria or Rebujito makes summer days fresher the same way a thick glass of Room temp Vodka warms your spirits on "the Motherland's winter", a well prepared RhumCoke makes every fun summer party partyer, or a fine White wine accompanies a great paella.

And theres nothing wrong with that ^^ Just make sure the lack of it doesn't ruin the moment.

[Rawhide68]

Tap tap ..
I'm cool with what john b says here ..

"And theres nothing wrong with that ^^ Just make sure the lack of it doesn't ruin the moment. "

[Rawhide68]

So it'll be as
an empty vessel
with thy having better be high
I have already killed the dragon, , I even went up on he´s horse
sometimes words don't make sense.

So you say I killed not the dragon, but myself?

I have no problem at all with that, why are you smiling to me like that Mr B
Here comes the question to you MR B , If I didn't kill the dragon an you for sure didn'nt
why am I alive and the dragon dead?

All according to your plan right?




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[ian33]

only purified water, nothing else
if i could drink wine without obvious and immediate harm to my health, i certainly would..
i have autoimmune issues, and alcohol i find the most aggravating for that

[Johnnycomelately]

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J/k about that last bit. ~8D

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