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East Sun
23rd June 2022, 15:49
Does anyone really know the truth about non-humans here on Earth?

We have had experts talk about abductions and encounters with what could be off--planet entities, but were they 'off planet' entities?
Maybe yes and maybe, no, under Earth, very possibly under Antarctica. Even our Gvt. does not seem to know.

If anyone, human being, does know they are not at liberty to say anything. That is sad, that we are clueless of what is going on, on this Earth below the surface and above the surface.

It must be that "THEY" are not in our best interest, our ENEMY. If so, we need to find out as soon as possible. Especially if they are aligned with the globalists. That would not surprise me at all.

IMO, religion is not the answer. We need to think for ourselves and do what we need to, to survive. If we wait until we are diminished to the G. Guidestones stated level of population, we are gone--any that survive will be slaves.

Are there any people, groups, armies or other that is doing anything?

Casey Claar
23rd June 2022, 17:23
It must be that "THEY" are not in our best interest, our ENEMY.

That's quite a leap.

It is also a pretty fair example of the human 'fight-flight' mechanism and the process we all must go through in the graduation of our individual and collective consciousness.

This is never going to be about any OTHER >> start to finish, whatever that may be, it is about the relationship each of us chooses with this idea.

How far will you take your current line of thought?....so far as into the manifestation of it?

This does not lead to graduation, quite right, it leads to destruction. Are you seeing it?

Fight-flight must be neutralized to get any further than we are. ( 3D Earth human )

It is step one, ground zero, to becoming a whole new organism.


_______________________________


Know the self << >> this is the answer and the cure to everything.

Know who you are and you know who everyone is.

Until this is known, nothing is known.

Confusion, doubt, fear.

Tyy1907
23rd June 2022, 17:30
You understand the size of this problem East Sun.

Why is this happening? What is the lesson here?

We're here to solve the problem of evil, with enough of us calling forth the highest Divine help. Creator can stop this tomorrow if enough humans yearn and ask for it.

You feel the urgency. It's not too late still. Keep going!

Casey Claar
23rd June 2022, 17:45
People can tend to want the ( world ) mirror to change before they themselves do. It will never happen. We change, then the mirror changes. In every moment we are asking ourself the question : "is this a reason to love or is this a reason to fear?" : our very own answer determines the outcome.

Tyy1907
23rd June 2022, 18:00
If someone did know the truth about the ET's, would you believe them?

xidaijena
23rd June 2022, 20:03
Lifechanyuan's Views on UFOs and Aliens


Lifechanyuan's view is that no aliens have ever visited the earth, and all the news about aliens visiting the earth is nonsense. There are two reasons. One is that the closest living planet to the earth is 960 light-years away from the earth. There is no so-called science and technology for making aircraft on this planet. They cannot come to the earth. The alien planet with signs of life is 250 million light-years away from the earth. Even if there are aliens living in 250 million light-years, they will come to the earth at the speed of matter. It is simply impossible, unless you do not believe in science. . Second, even if Hawking and other scientists believe that there are "wormholes" and "micro-wormholes" that travel through time and space, even if the "Stargate" exists, the aliens who have mastered the high technology of flying saucers look different from what people on earth do now. The way he "sees" is at least much more beautiful than that of the earth's people, and the fact is that the so-called "seen" and imagined aliens on the earth are ugly. Of course, looking at people from the aesthetic point of view of beasts, maybe People may look ugly, but in any case, beauty is mainly determined by factors such as symmetry, proportion, and color. Aliens can come to earth and prove that they are more advanced than people on earth, can they be that ugly look? Even if these aliens are "evil", do evil things look ugly?

The conclusion is: no aliens have ever come to Earth.

So, what happened to the flying saucers seen on Earth? It is said that some earthlings were abducted by aliens, what happened to the aliens that the abducted earthlings saw and described? And what about the phenomenon of "crop circles" found in various places?

Answer: UFOs are not from alien planets, but from the solar system, more precisely, from the moon. The aliens that people "see" are not people, but "biological robots". Take the Mexican "alien baby" discovered not long ago. The research of scientists in several places has proved that from "Mexican aliens" A human baby" cannot detect the DNA components that life should have, because it is a biological robot. Strictly speaking, it is just a machine that is controlled by remote control. In addition, an egg-sized "alien baby" can be called "" person? biological only. As for whether the "Mexican Alien Baby" is true or not, it is doubtful whether it is fake or not.

The real mystery is that the solar system, the earth, the moon, etc. were created according to God's plan and under the leadership of God, the angels, the entire solar system is to serve mankind, all life on earth is created, and most of the creation is over. The angels left the earth, leaving only a part of the angels to guard the earth. The remaining angels mainly live in underground bases, especially in the Bermuda Pyramid underwater base near 30 degrees north latitude. They often remotely control the flying saucers inside the moon to observe the earth. Everything and changes that happen on the moon, there are doors on the other side of the moon (the side that cannot be seen from the earth) that can be opened, and the flying saucer can enter and exit.

Everything on the earth is under guardianship, and the crop circles found in various places are also done by the angels who guard the earth. They are not for revelation to human beings, but as temporary marks made by the angels who guard the earth. As for the meaning of the sign, it is not understood by human beings, it can only be guessed.

Some people seem to have supernatural thinking and consciousness, such as the invention and creation of computer networks. In fact, it is not what people did, but the invention and creation by the angels who guard the earth who transplanted their own thinking and consciousness into it. People sometimes feel that everything is thinking and creating by themselves, but in fact, they unknowingly follow the procedures and accept the instructions of the higher life.

Human beings, as long as they follow the way of God, everything will be fine, otherwise, natural and man-made disasters will continue.

~~~~~~~~~~

TRUE OR FALSE, YOU DECIDE.:handshake:

mojo
23rd June 2022, 22:24
Are there any people, groups, armies or other that is doing anything?


Absolutely but like Tyy said who is going to believe them and true contactees have been attacked viciously for their testimony. Others fear their non-disclosure agreements, and still others hoax. Some have real solid answers to what we wish to know. Yet they remain silent why?

East Sun
24th June 2022, 00:20
For many reasons, I won't go into now, I believe that
there has always been an evil force that is more than
just spiritual, consistently working against us humans.

But especially now, it is evident in every facet of our
existence. I, we need to be vigilant without stressing
out too much, and keeping our minds alert so we don't
fall asleep at the wheel.

Casey Claar
24th June 2022, 03:03
For many reasons, I won't go into now, I believe that
there has always been an evil force that is more than
just spiritual, consistently working against us humans.

But especially now, it is evident in every facet of our
existence. I, we need to be vigilant without stressing
out too much, and keeping our minds alert so we don't
fall asleep at the wheel.

I understand the feeling. One thing will never change, though. Reality is from the inside-out. The sad truth is that the masses will not agree to see it, so set about to fight one another for being the cause to what ails them. This is the very thing that lets the negative forces in. People have sacrificed the reality for the drama, taken the attention off the self and placed it onto an 'other' <-- this is what has to change, it is the ONLY thing that needs to change. We must return to ourself. The negative force is not something to fight. It is, for many, something to let go of. And for others, something to bring into right/harmonious balance with the positive force. This all happens through a peaceful inward process of repatterining of our own attention, which alters the way we see/experience ourself and our world. It changes the way we behave, cleans up our habits and tendencies. Change is always an inside job. Inside is the reality. When this is known, the outside can be a reality as well. Until this is known, as we can see, it is only ever endless, escalating drama. Each must ask >> will I continue to be a part of it? Or will I cease? It is the only real question that can get us anywhere.

Johnnycomelately
24th June 2022, 04:00
IMO, religion is not the answer. We need to think for ourselves and do what we need to, to survive. If we wait until we are diminished to the G. Guidestones stated level of population, we are gone--any that survive will be slaves.



Yes, religions are not an answer to your stated scenario. At best they are social clubs, at worst they are grifters and slavers. I hope you sort out religion from spirit, so that you can use your inner power to address what you fear.

Tyy1907
24th June 2022, 04:24
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.

seehas
24th June 2022, 04:35
Does anyone really know the truth about non-humans here on Earth?

We have had experts talk about abductions and encounters with what could be off--planet entities, but were they 'off planet' entities?
Maybe yes and maybe, no, under Earth, very possibly under Antarctica. Even our Gvt. does not seem to know.

If anyone, human being, does know they are not at liberty to say anything. That is sad, that we are clueless of what is going on, on this Earth below the surface and above the surface.

It must be that "THEY" are not in our best interest, our ENEMY. If so, we need to find out as soon as possible. Especially if they are aligned with the globalists. That would not surprise me at all.

IMO, religion is not the answer. We need to think for ourselves and do what we need to, to survive. If we wait until we are diminished to the G. Guidestones stated level of population, we are gone--any that survive will be slaves.

Are there any people, groups, armies or other that is doing anything?

these are great questions because this will be the reality for a lot of people when the "alien thread" will be declared in the media.

isnt part of beeing here on PA questioning who we realy are and why we are here? if so who do you actualy mean with "humanity"

the main problem of this planet hides inside this sentence "Are there any people, groups, armies or other that is doing anything?"

Blastolabs
24th June 2022, 05:15
If humans survive does it matter?

If they don't does that change anything?

I'm not sure why "they must be evil"

It seems likely that "UFO'S" have disarmed nuclear weapons on MANY occasions.

That doesn't sound evil to me.

About "it being impossible to travel here"

It was also impossible to video chat with someone across the world 50 years ago.

A species that is a million years ahead of humans would likely appear "magic"

Anything is possible

Johnnycomelately
24th June 2022, 05:31
Some people seem to have supernatural thinking and consciousness, such as the invention and creation of computer networks. In fact, it is not what people did, but the invention and creation by the angels who guard the earth who transplanted their own thinking and consciousness into it. People sometimes feel that everything is thinking and creating by themselves, but in fact, they unknowingly follow the procedures and accept the instructions of the higher life.

TRUE OR FALSE, YOU DECIDE.:handshake:

Hi Jena. I agree with your idea that many of our thoughts have their immediate origin outside of us, that they are prompts or suggestions that are made available to us by non incarnate beings. You credit “angels”, by which I suppose you mean spirits of good intention. I wonder if your belief system includes inputs, similar but harmful in result, by ill-intentioned spirits?

Regarding the so-called ‘scientific argument’ against practical interstellar travel, why would you trust current Big Science? Forget spirit, they don’t even look at their own hypotheses of more/alternate dimensions (the various String theories). They are either failing or lieing, right now, on big important stuff like “human-caused” climate change, medical necessities, even astrophysics* for pete’s sake.

*for this, including discussion of the physics and deportment of our own star, please see Dr. Pierre-Marie Robitaille’s work, available via his YouTube chan Sky Scholar.

Mashika
24th June 2022, 06:09
Does anyone really know the truth about non-humans here on Earth?

We have had experts

Did we? I don't know, i'm an expert at licking frogs, did you know that licking some frogs give you a tremendous trip? Doesn't mean i know what i'm talking about once the experience passes, it doesn't make me any expert or anything but someone who licked a frog. I may know all about which frogs are the good ones to lick. Doesn't mean i'm an experienced or spiritual leader because i got high out there in the woods after licking a frog...

Your spiritual master may be a frog licking person, and that's all there is to the wisdom they impart... facepalm:



Maybe yes and maybe, no, under Earth, very possibly under Antarctica. Even our Gvt. does not seem to know.

Why are you even considering what the gvt 'knows', they lie 100% of the time



If anyone, human being, does know they are not at liberty to say anything. That is sad, that we are clueless of what is going on, on this Earth below the surface and above the surface.

Don't negate yourself, how can you say that and yet here you are saying the opposite, and believing your words and thoughts are true? But the "below and above" thing always carries organized religion taint, so you should reconsider looking at this as in "below and above', in every single thing you consider



It must be that "THEY" are not in our best interest, our ENEMY. If so, we need to find out as soon as possible. Especially if they are aligned with the globalists. That would not surprise me at all.

If there were several races, and one of them was antagonist of the other ones, 'We and Them" is exactly what they would lead you and work hard to make you feel/think

Is not about 'we vs them', but more like 'which one of them all"



IMO, religion is not the answer. We need to think for ourselves and do what we need to, to survive. If we wait until we are diminished to the G. Guidestones stated level of population, we are gone--any that survive will be slaves.

Are there any people, groups, armies or other that is doing anything?
Spirituality and religion are not the same thing

And the Guide Stones may as well be a tool to lead you into that path you have already chosen

Are you questioning things, or are you confirming things to yourself by writing this and then watching is someone else had already gone through this path of confirmation?

Have you wondered about that?

It's like the rock on the river, how did it get there? Did water took it there, or the rock went there first and the the water parted ways when hitting the rock? Who's parting who?

Mashika
24th June 2022, 06:18
Are there any people, groups, armies or other that is doing anything?

Yes, WE

We may be the aliens, and we may be the humans as well, have you read the "The Martian Chronicles? One of the best quotes of that book is this one

The kid asked the father: "dad you promised there would be martians here" or something like that, and then the father said, look at the river, they there are...

“The Martians were there—in the canal—reflected in the water.... The Martians stared back up at them for a long, long silent time from the rippling water....”

We and they...

Mashika
24th June 2022, 08:07
In the grand scheme of things, you need to go an understand this, or at least ponder about it

Who's right and who's wrong? If you consider two sides, every side will think they are in the right? Is your side the right one because that's where you are?

Or are both sides right? Or wrong, what does that even mean

Up and down, left and right, good and bad, this and that. You are doing something i do a lot, think of stuff from my side of things. And how does that truly work? It doesn't

What are you truly looking for, you need to take a stop and consider that in full honestly. And leave behind all matters of "we", because as soon as you say "we", then it's not your will anymore, but the 'group' thing that will ask you to follow and not lead. The leader of the group never thinks of themselves as "we"... That's why he's the leader in the first place :P

Eagle Eye
24th June 2022, 08:33
Does anyone really know the truth about non-humans here on Earth?

We can find the similarity of what we do to the wild animals (except hunting, because we are included in the top of food chain on this planet). We study them, we take some for experiments, we track some to know their behaviour, but we don't interfere with their way of life. We don't tell them who to hunt, where to go, or to not enter in a group fight. They are free to chose their own leader, that will guide them in their own way. We only intervene, helping them, when they are endangered species, but not much interfering with their life.
The earth was appointed to us humans to live in it and be in charge of it. The aliens are not allowed to be in the open, not until our purpose here, as a species, is over.

Tyy1907
24th June 2022, 15:45
There's a technique being used on us.

Gas prices have never been higher than right now. Ever ever ever. Food prices are going up. Shortages of parts of all kinds.

But they "acclimate" us to this so it becomes "normal". At the same time, turning the screws tighter - baffling incompetence or blatant dictatorial leadership of nations.

Systematic wearing us down, cleverly, at the right pace. Coupled with their mind control to make it all work together. It's depravity intelligently engineered by loveless beings that hate us. That don't understand how we bob back to the surface time and again.

It's our Divine heritage that keeps us standing strong. What else could it be?

Casey Claar
24th June 2022, 16:11
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.

Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

Tyy1907
24th June 2022, 17:57
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.

Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

Can you explain what it means for us when an earth cycle is stopped?

Casey Claar
24th June 2022, 21:00
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.


Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

Can you explain what it means for us when an earth cycle is stopped?

There are a few ways to read this question, which I thank you for.

The cycles are much larger than just an Earth cycle. The cycles are learning cycles, learning processes.

These occur in the manifest worlds and cannot be stopped, they are a part of the RIDE, the g r a d u a t i o n of consciousness. Just as you yourself cannot stop the sun from rising, or the phases of the moon, the gestation period of a fetus ( examples of Earth cycles ), you also cannot stop the larger galactic, universal and cosmic cycles. With this said, what I think you must be asking, and please let me know if I have got it right/wrong, is what it means to us, in a practical sense when a cycle in particular comes to a close and a new cycle begins.

As this occurs, it being a process of dissolution, we see destruction. We see the old world going down, systems failing, economies collapsing. We see disease and death, division and war, large populations leaving the planet. Overall collapse. On a more mundane level we see many of our relationships ending, coming to their close. We see larger numbers of people than usual relocating and starting over again. We see overpopulation of big city centers and handfuls of people pooling in various ways out onto the land. None of this is anything to work against. These signs of the time are meant to inform us of the arrival of a particular choice point. Where we begin to think, feel and work in the direction of 1) beginning to envision and build our new world, generally what we feel is a better and more perfect/fair/balanced world, and/or 2) attempting to save the old one. The latter amounts to a choice of remaining in the 3D physical state of consciousness, the former, if performed authentically/genuinely/rightly is an agreement to graduate from our planet and planetary level curriculum into galactic space.

This is the fundamental reason why the ETs are presently connecting.

To help welcome, and show us the way into galactic space.

There are others who play a role in the dissolution.

Tyy1907
25th June 2022, 00:10
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.


Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

Can you explain what it means for us when an earth cycle is stopped?

There are a few ways to read this question, which I thank you for.

The cycles are much larger than just an Earth cycle. The cycles are learning cycles, learning processes.

These occur in the manifest worlds and cannot be stopped, they are a part of the RIDE, the g r a d u a t i o n of consciousness. Just as you yourself cannot stop the sun from rising, or the phases of the moon, the gestation period of a fetus ( examples of Earth cycles ), you also cannot stop the larger galactic, universal and cosmic cycles. With this said, what I think you must be asking, and please let me know if I have got it right/wrong, is what it means to us, in a practical sense when a cycle in particular comes to a close and a new cycle begins.

As this occurs, it being a process of dissolution, we see destruction. We see the old world going down, systems failing, economies collapsing. We see disease and death, division and war, large populations leaving the planet. Overall collapse. On a more mundane level we see many of our relationships ending, coming to their close. We see larger numbers of people than usual relocating and starting over again. We see overpopulation of big city centers and handfuls of people pooling in various ways out onto the land. None of this is anything to work against. These signs of the time are meant to inform us of the arrival of a particular choice point. Where we begin to think, feel and work in the direction of 1) beginning to envision and build our new world, generally what we feel is a better and more perfect/fair/balanced world, and/or 2) attempting to save the old one. The latter amounts to a choice of remaining in the 3D physical state of consciousness, the former, if performed authentically/genuinely/rightly is an agreement to graduate from our planet and planetary level curriculum into galactic space.

This is the fundamental reason why the ETs are presently connecting.

To help welcome, and show us the way into galactic space.

There are others who play a role in the dissolution.

So it basically means the break down of our world. So we can go into space.

What or who is causing this destruction of the earth?

Mashika
25th June 2022, 00:19
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.


Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

Can you explain what it means for us when an earth cycle is stopped?

There are a few ways to read this question, which I thank you for.

The cycles are much larger than just an Earth cycle. The cycles are learning cycles, learning processes.

These occur in the manifest worlds and cannot be stopped, they are a part of the RIDE, the g r a d u a t i o n of consciousness. Just as you yourself cannot stop the sun from rising, or the phases of the moon, the gestation period of a fetus ( examples of Earth cycles ), you also cannot stop the larger galactic, universal and cosmic cycles. With this said, what I think you must be asking, and please let me know if I have got it right/wrong, is what it means to us, in a practical sense when a cycle in particular comes to a close and a new cycle begins.

As this occurs, it being a process of dissolution, we see destruction. We see the old world going down, systems failing, economies collapsing. We see disease and death, division and war, large populations leaving the planet. Overall collapse. On a more mundane level we see many of our relationships ending, coming to their close. We see larger numbers of people than usual relocating and starting over again. We see overpopulation of big city centers and handfuls of people pooling in various ways out onto the land. None of this is anything to work against. These signs of the time are meant to inform us of the arrival of a particular choice point. Where we begin to think, feel and work in the direction of 1) beginning to envision and build our new world, generally what we feel is a better and more perfect/fair/balanced world, and/or 2) attempting to save the old one. The latter amounts to a choice of remaining in the 3D physical state of consciousness, the former, if performed authentically/genuinely/rightly is an agreement to graduate from our planet and planetary level curriculum into galactic space.

This is the fundamental reason why the ETs are presently connecting.

To help welcome, and show us the way into galactic space.

There are others who play a role in the dissolution.

So it basically means the break down of our world. So we can go into space.

What or who is causing this destruction of the earth?

Not my place maybe, but...

No one is causing anything, it is what happens. "It happens when it happens, and it happens all the time"

And not into space, space is not a place, you can't 'go into space' truly, it's not a destination :)

Tyy1907
25th June 2022, 01:42
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.


Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

Can you explain what it means for us when an earth cycle is stopped?

There are a few ways to read this question, which I thank you for.

The cycles are much larger than just an Earth cycle. The cycles are learning cycles, learning processes.

These occur in the manifest worlds and cannot be stopped, they are a part of the RIDE, the g r a d u a t i o n of consciousness. Just as you yourself cannot stop the sun from rising, or the phases of the moon, the gestation period of a fetus ( examples of Earth cycles ), you also cannot stop the larger galactic, universal and cosmic cycles. With this said, what I think you must be asking, and please let me know if I have got it right/wrong, is what it means to us, in a practical sense when a cycle in particular comes to a close and a new cycle begins.

As this occurs, it being a process of dissolution, we see destruction. We see the old world going down, systems failing, economies collapsing. We see disease and death, division and war, large populations leaving the planet. Overall collapse. On a more mundane level we see many of our relationships ending, coming to their close. We see larger numbers of people than usual relocating and starting over again. We see overpopulation of big city centers and handfuls of people pooling in various ways out onto the land. None of this is anything to work against. These signs of the time are meant to inform us of the arrival of a particular choice point. Where we begin to think, feel and work in the direction of 1) beginning to envision and build our new world, generally what we feel is a better and more perfect/fair/balanced world, and/or 2) attempting to save the old one. The latter amounts to a choice of remaining in the 3D physical state of consciousness, the former, if performed authentically/genuinely/rightly is an agreement to graduate from our planet and planetary level curriculum into galactic space.

This is the fundamental reason why the ETs are presently connecting.

To help welcome, and show us the way into galactic space.

There are others who play a role in the dissolution.

So it basically means the break down of our world. So we can go into space.

What or who is causing this destruction of the earth?

Not my place maybe, but...

No one is causing anything, it is what happens. "It happens when it happens, and it happens all the time"

And not into space, space is not a place, you can't 'go into space' truly, it's not a destination :)

So you're saying that
Covid was a natural occurence
It was nobody that burned down all the recent food manufacturing facilities
War between nations is never orchestrated to happen. Nobody is to blame. It's human nature to kill and destroy perhaps.

Does evil exist?

Mashika
25th June 2022, 02:10
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.


Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

Can you explain what it means for us when an earth cycle is stopped?

There are a few ways to read this question, which I thank you for.

The cycles are much larger than just an Earth cycle. The cycles are learning cycles, learning processes.

These occur in the manifest worlds and cannot be stopped, they are a part of the RIDE, the g r a d u a t i o n of consciousness. Just as you yourself cannot stop the sun from rising, or the phases of the moon, the gestation period of a fetus ( examples of Earth cycles ), you also cannot stop the larger galactic, universal and cosmic cycles. With this said, what I think you must be asking, and please let me know if I have got it right/wrong, is what it means to us, in a practical sense when a cycle in particular comes to a close and a new cycle begins.

As this occurs, it being a process of dissolution, we see destruction. We see the old world going down, systems failing, economies collapsing. We see disease and death, division and war, large populations leaving the planet. Overall collapse. On a more mundane level we see many of our relationships ending, coming to their close. We see larger numbers of people than usual relocating and starting over again. We see overpopulation of big city centers and handfuls of people pooling in various ways out onto the land. None of this is anything to work against. These signs of the time are meant to inform us of the arrival of a particular choice point. Where we begin to think, feel and work in the direction of 1) beginning to envision and build our new world, generally what we feel is a better and more perfect/fair/balanced world, and/or 2) attempting to save the old one. The latter amounts to a choice of remaining in the 3D physical state of consciousness, the former, if performed authentically/genuinely/rightly is an agreement to graduate from our planet and planetary level curriculum into galactic space.

This is the fundamental reason why the ETs are presently connecting.

To help welcome, and show us the way into galactic space.

There are others who play a role in the dissolution.

So it basically means the break down of our world. So we can go into space.

What or who is causing this destruction of the earth?

Not my place maybe, but...

No one is causing anything, it is what happens. "It happens when it happens, and it happens all the time"

And not into space, space is not a place, you can't 'go into space' truly, it's not a destination :)

So you're saying that
Covid was a natural occurence
It was nobody that burned down all the recent food manufacturing facilities
War between nations is never orchestrated to happen. Nobody is to blame. It's human nature to kill and destroy perhaps.

Does evil exist?

You are being too much leading here lol, but i will entertain



Covid was a natural occurence

First: I did not say Covid was natural, but you did say that it is not. One thing is picking up a virus that was natural and enhancing it, and another thing is to create one from zero. Pick up your logic from here



It was nobody that burned down all the recent food manufacturing facilities

Second: This has nothing at all to do with what i said. Why don't you just stop beating around the bushes? If you have a claim, say it directly and prove or show why you think that's so, don't go running around trying to lead people into your own beliefs as a 'final resolution of what's going on'. Just say it plain and simple



War between nations is never orchestrated to happen. Nobody is to blame. It's human nature to kill and destroy perhaps.

This doesn't make any sense, either it does or not. Humans are by nature destructive and go to war, but humans are NOT by nature destructive and war never orchestrated to happen by humans? What?

Things are, things happen, you are, and you happened.

You are trying to resolve the consequences of the 'happened' situation, and not even trying to understand the 'why' aspect of it. And that's why you are truly, as above, making no sense

There is no 'human' reason for things to happen on their own, even human acts are not 'human acts'. Things just 'happen' in the first place, and then people analize them because they noticed 'something happened', it's always a step behind

"The survival of humanity"

Which one?

You seem angry to me, but i don't know why, i don't get it, let's talk in a different way, please

Casey Claar
25th June 2022, 02:32
So it basically means the break down of our world. So we can go into space.

What or who is causing this destruction of the earth?

It is a point in the natural cycle/rhythm where the process of dissolution takes places, yes. It is a juncture, a decision point wherein we decide to repeat and/or graduate the grade. Graduation takes us to the next gradient, a larger decision space, perceptually 'galactic space', yes. This is where we learn to interact on a great scale with our greater relations. The ETs as we so like to call them.



So you're saying that
Covid was a natural occurence
It was nobody that burned down all the recent food manufacturing facilities
War between nations is never orchestrated to happen. Nobody is to blame. It's human nature to kill and destroy perhaps.

Does evil exist.

I will tag in with Mashika and chime in here as well.

This is where repatterning your attention, if you would like to try it would come in handy. With the current pattern you are using, you are detecting a difference between the Larger ( Consciousness ) System and the discrete players within the system, whereas more accurately, the Larger System is all there is of "them". The Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself is all there is of any one of us. It is a whole, a singularity, a oneness and it is IN the this "we"...."move and breath and find our being". So, yes, as Mashika is saying it is natural, a natural part of the cycle(s) of time, they "just happen". They happen in and through each and every consciousness cell in all creation. They are the wind beneath our wings. They are what move us.

Evil is a mental mindset.

Delight
25th June 2022, 04:29
Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

This makes sense to me. We each an eternal being in one whole. What if we are in a simulated environment to "play out" the separation sought by those who hate themselves? The point of living IMO is to learn to love love love ourselves. If I hate myself, I would always be running away from myself. I need to love myself so I will return to myself.

Harmony
25th June 2022, 04:39
Can we separate our environment from our conciousness? There are some events that are cycles we may not be able to control, but just respond to.


Perhaps our concious decisions help us navigate within our environment and change some of our situations. Some of the difficult things we face as societies are natural consequences of how the world on a whole has responded over time to the challenges we have faced as developing beings having the freedom to create, and collectively the situation we see around us may be a natural consequence within the parameters of the natural cycles of the larger systems (cycles such as seasons, solar and cosmic) that play out over time.


Could mankind have made better choices? Does each persons ability to respond affect the whole? Is this as far as society can go if better ways to work together so every ones physical and spiritual needs can be met? Are our spiritual values reflected in our systems we create?


Is there a bifurcation that is natural that happens when populations can not find enough common ground to go forward? Is the polarised friction between some people, nations, systems, and civilisations and even against the earth itself the trigger for a bifurcation?


There is much to consider, and it seems ET's and ED's would also fall into the same cycles of conciousness growth and larger cosmic cycles.


I feel many are frustrated as we can see events moving in ways that are not what we wish to happen on a personal level for ourselves, our families and societies. We each can do what we are able to and can not always control the collective forces, but only our own “knowing” from within.

Mike Gorman
25th June 2022, 04:49
I am impressed with the plain speaking power of your post East Sun, you articulate something I too have been musing about. This last few years has revealed a massive, truly astonishingly different direction; it is so utterly malicious and outrageous that I sense another agency at work here!

Just consider how vastly different the political/economic and social worlds have become - compare 2020 with 1997, can we truly account for these shifts in terms of a reasonable progression, the influence of WEF ideology, the emergence of the 'Green Billionaire' cult, the misguided and utterly unscientific lies these people spout: C02 is clearly not the reason for our climate changing, our climate has always shifted and changed in accordance with natural forces and the solar cycles, our inexorable journey through the cosmos as we orbit the center of our Milky Way-too many elements to account for; we know absolutely that the climate alarmists are wrong, their climate models and their intense phobia of fossil fuels, their insistence that humanity is to blame for every cyclone and flood that occurs, each drought and glacial waxing/waning is humanity's fault: we know this is absolutely false. History shows us this very clearly.

So we have these lies, and the limitless propaganda machine spewing utter rubbish at us - who is truly driving this crap fest?
Is all of this simply the outcome of criminal groups executing on their insane agenda, or is there another influence at work here?

I don't know, but the congress of the USA is now addressing UAP, and this is revealing some unexpected truth, even though we should not place too much stock in the official realm, how else can we determine what is happening? We have to observe and study, make our conclusions.

It is all exceedingly strange, we must agree on this point at least?

I am not going to present my overall thoughts, this would take way too long, and you have your own bundle of ideas, I know this: but I think it is important that WE continue to resist, we persist in demanding science, demanding the propaganda cease, it really is down to you and I to get us out of this quagmire of chaos and malicious politics, this suicidal objective of our 'ruling classes' - I truly think it will result in a global civil war, despite 'Legal' remedies and good work from the likes of Peter McCullough, Mike Yeadon, ET AL I foresee enormous turbulence.

I don't have any fancy explanations, or 'secret' information, we can see plainly that our society is in trouble like it never has been before: there are reasons for this which none of us knows, we just have to keep the grind on, keep fighting in your own way.

Tyy1907
25th June 2022, 05:00
Repatterning our attention won't change what's going on around us. Deciding not to focus on your house being on fire won't put the fire out. There needs to be some form of action. This is what I had to figure out. Waiting for ET's was a sham and still is. This is a test of human to see if we'll return to first principles. Like when we did in the beginning, having continual connection to Source Creator. I can personally attest to this in my own life. Focussed prayer work, holding the self in high regard is huge. All roads lead me to getwisdom.com

Turns out information on current earth situation is there too and how we can help.


Questions are always good when someone's meaning is not clear.

Repatterning the attention is not a process of deciding to bury your head in the sand relative to what it is you do not wish to see. It is a process of turning the attention inside out. When the perception is that 'you' are in the world, you are in the play world. When the perception is that the 'world' is in you, you are in the real world; there is no division between the Godhead, Source Creator, Consciousness Itself and you. So, yes, continual connection indeed. This is what the masses just will not do. They will not come out of the play world. They will not return to themselves. To consciousness as the reality. They want to stay in separation, in 3D physicality. And I will agree with you, the original poster and anyone else who is adamant at this--indeed you are confronting a situation, a point in the cycle where the slate is again being wiped cleaned, and the Earth Ride begun again. Fight against it as one may, the cycles cannot be stopped. The choice before us all is to 1) ride them up and out, and/or 2) ride them down and back again. Everyone is choosing.

Can you explain what it means for us when an earth cycle is stopped?

There are a few ways to read this question, which I thank you for.

The cycles are much larger than just an Earth cycle. The cycles are learning cycles, learning processes.

These occur in the manifest worlds and cannot be stopped, they are a part of the RIDE, the g r a d u a t i o n of consciousness. Just as you yourself cannot stop the sun from rising, or the phases of the moon, the gestation period of a fetus ( examples of Earth cycles ), you also cannot stop the larger galactic, universal and cosmic cycles. With this said, what I think you must be asking, and please let me know if I have got it right/wrong, is what it means to us, in a practical sense when a cycle in particular comes to a close and a new cycle begins.

As this occurs, it being a process of dissolution, we see destruction. We see the old world going down, systems failing, economies collapsing. We see disease and death, division and war, large populations leaving the planet. Overall collapse. On a more mundane level we see many of our relationships ending, coming to their close. We see larger numbers of people than usual relocating and starting over again. We see overpopulation of big city centers and handfuls of people pooling in various ways out onto the land. None of this is anything to work against. These signs of the time are meant to inform us of the arrival of a particular choice point. Where we begin to think, feel and work in the direction of 1) beginning to envision and build our new world, generally what we feel is a better and more perfect/fair/balanced world, and/or 2) attempting to save the old one. The latter amounts to a choice of remaining in the 3D physical state of consciousness, the former, if performed authentically/genuinely/rightly is an agreement to graduate from our planet and planetary level curriculum into galactic space.

This is the fundamental reason why the ETs are presently connecting.

To help welcome, and show us the way into galactic space.

There are others who play a role in the dissolution.

So it basically means the break down of our world. So we can go into space.

What or who is causing this destruction of the earth?

Not my place maybe, but...

No one is causing anything, it is what happens. "It happens when it happens, and it happens all the time"

And not into space, space is not a place, you can't 'go into space' truly, it's not a destination :)

So you're saying that
Covid was a natural occurence
It was nobody that burned down all the recent food manufacturing facilities
War between nations is never orchestrated to happen. Nobody is to blame. It's human nature to kill and destroy perhaps.

Does evil exist?

You are being too much leading here lol, but i will entertain



Covid was a natural occurence

First: I did not say Covid was natural, but you did say that it is not. One thing is picking up a virus that was natural and enhancing it, and another thing is to create one from zero. Pick up your logic from here



It was nobody that burned down all the recent food manufacturing facilities

Second: This has nothing at all to do with what i said. Why don't you just stop beating around the bushes? If you have a claim, say it directly and prove or show why you think that's so, don't go running around trying to lead people into your own beliefs as a 'final resolution of what's going on'. Just say it plain and simple



War between nations is never orchestrated to happen. Nobody is to blame. It's human nature to kill and destroy perhaps.

This doesn't make any sense, either it does or not. Humans are by nature destructive and go to war, but humans are NOT by nature destructive and war never orchestrated to happen by humans? What?

Things are, things happen, you are, and you happened.

You are trying to resolve the consequences of the 'happened' situation, and not even trying to understand the 'why' aspect of it. And that's why you are truly, as above, making no sense

There is no 'human' reason for things to happen on their own, even human acts are not 'human acts'. Things just 'happen' in the first place, and then people analize them because they noticed 'something happened', it's always a step behind

"The survival of humanity"

Which one?

You seem angry to me, but i don't know why, i don't get it, let's talk in a different way, please

I'm not angry so you can rule that out.

If you feel there's nothing deeper going on whatsoever then fill your boots.

Mashika
25th June 2022, 05:07
I'm not angry so you can rule that out.

If you feel there's nothing deeper going on whatsoever then fill your boots.

I know the solution to your problem. It's a one step solution

"Imagine a world"

Come back and tell us what happened next

But don't go and create things you can't support of care for after they are created. Be mindful of that

Tyy1907
25th June 2022, 05:17
I'm concerned is all. You guys on Avalon are some of the most awake people. Possessing power you may or may not know you have. Well it can be used to call in Divine assistance. It's not a fairy tale or religious nonsense. It's real as the child that looks deep in your eyes at the grocery store. And It looks like we're gonna need all the help we can get going forward. Much love.

Mashika
25th June 2022, 05:24
I'm concerned is all. You guys on Avalon are some of the most awake people. Possessing power you may or may not know you have. Well it can be used to call in Divine assistance. It's not a fairy tale or religious nonsense. It's real as the child that looks deep in your eyes at the grocery store. And It looks like we're gonna need all the help we can get going forward. Much love.

Here's the usual

You don't understand that you don't understand

Let me explain. And as i said above, create a world in your mind, imagine it

Let's create masha, she's a 13 year old girl living there, and she goes to school, and likes ice cream, and lemon juice, and orange juice too, and the natural kind, not the one mixed with water. And she gets it prepared to her by her mom every day at 6:30 am, then she goes to school and eats a chicken lunch because that's what she loves the most.

Imagine her in her daily life, and see her smile, and go watch tv on the living room, and then go out to ride her bike with friends, and have dinner, she likes a lot potatoes and salad, and mayo! Imagine and visualize all that, give her life of your own

Imagine her going to the movies, to the park, riding a bike, a skate board, and in the open, out there, in the country side, bathing in the river, watching the sun, feeling teh wind, just let her exist

But now someone hurts her, hits her or gets mad at her. Now imagine her sad and crying, Visualize her pain, and her tears, and how she goes back home and cries in her room

Now you are sharing energy of your own life and have created a person

Now shut it all down and let her disappear and never think about her again

Stop it all at once

Will she survive you? Can you part with her existence?

- You don't understand that you don't understand

Creation is one hell of a hell

Mashika
25th June 2022, 05:58
"Until it ends, there is no end" It's so simple :)

i4m4wUIpljU

Johnnycomelately
25th June 2022, 07:47
I'm concerned is all. You guys on Avalon are some of the most awake people. Possessing power you may or may not know you have. Well it can be used to call in Divine assistance. It's not a fairy tale or religious nonsense. It's real as the child that looks deep in your eyes at the grocery store. And It looks like we're gonna need all the help we can get going forward. Much love.

Here's the usual

You don't understand that you don't understand

.
.
.

Stop it all at once

Will she survive you? Can you part with her existence?

- You don't understand that you don't understand


People generally only care to understand you, when you play nice. Then, how good a listener are you. Even good ideas may be wasted, after that.

On a cheerier note, we are talking about The Survival of Humanity, which ain’t gonna happen. So none of this talk matters. ~8D

Mashika
25th June 2022, 07:52
I'm concerned is all. You guys on Avalon are some of the most awake people. Possessing power you may or may not know you have. Well it can be used to call in Divine assistance. It's not a fairy tale or religious nonsense. It's real as the child that looks deep in your eyes at the grocery store. And It looks like we're gonna need all the help we can get going forward. Much love.

Here's the usual

You don't understand that you don't understand

.
.
.

Stop it all at once

Will she survive you? Can you part with her existence?

- You don't understand that you don't understand





People generally only care to understand you, when you play nice.


Ain't that the problem lol

If they don't care, "then they don't care'. I may had something right, or not, valuable to say. But this "i don't care" concept only leads to "i never bothered to try understand you because i did read you but what you said was not what i wanted you to say".

It is not my task to lead people around, if they can't read, then they can't read



Then, how good a listener are you. Even good ideas may be wasted, after that.

Yes and no, intermediate lies are a thing, there's always a way to escape reality and find comfort in a separate one that leads to the void



On a cheerier note, we are talking about The Survival of Humanity, which ain’t gonna happen. So none of this talk matters. ~8D

So does little Masha gets to exist after it has been created in someone's mind, or nah

She was going to school tomorrow, but maybe she won't ever? Too bad, that chicken sandwich going to waste.. LMFAO

What is it? If anything at all?

Mashika
25th June 2022, 08:03
I was very specific, i don't mince words or play nice, i don't care for that. I don't have time for that ridiculous 40+ year old process

Either people see it or not, then you part ways indeed. I am running against time here, i don't have time to teach kindergarten concepts of spirituality.

And if my words are absurd or dumb then so be it, but say so as well, very clearly and in point. life and death are not 'nice' in words, they just are, in all the brutality and completey/absolute way they can be, they hit you in the face with no shield, ever.

Johnnycomelately
25th June 2022, 08:06
So does little Masha gets to exist after it has been created in someone's mind, or nah

She was going to school tomorrow, but maybe she won't ever? Too bad, that chicken sandwich going to waste.. LMFAO

What is it? If anything at all?

It is an ‘it’, you said so yourself. Calling it “she” doesn’t change that. It is an idea.

Mashika
25th June 2022, 08:14
So does little Masha gets to exist after it has been created in someone's mind, or nah

She was going to school tomorrow, but maybe she won't ever? Too bad, that chicken sandwich going to waste.. LMFAO

What is it? If anything at all?

It is an ‘it’, you said so yourself. Calling it “she” doesn’t change that. It is an idea.

Yes, and that was the purpose of the entire experiment :) It is what it is, can you see why do you do the thing you do now?

Or nah
:P

Running around in circles or looking away doesn't change things. Pointing out that 'little masha' is an 'it' is of no importance at all

Once you care for 'it', then what? Ask yourself the real questions

Mashika
25th June 2022, 08:24
Here's an Enso circle
https://www.lionsroar.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/enso-featured.png

Please explain it

Am i going hard on you? Yes

Why? You wanted it so

Will i get reprimanded? Very much so

Does anything we said here matters? No

The consequence of this entire thing are none existence, it's a void of its own

So 'let it go'

Bubu
25th June 2022, 10:17
If you are confuse or dont know exactly what to do about one thing, then do something else. The answer to that particular thing will be provided/ obvious to you at the time of doing. Worrying does not do anything other than take away your positive experience. But negatives are experiences as well. So carry on.

Jim_Duyer
25th June 2022, 19:19
Does anyone really know the truth about non-humans here on Earth?

We have had experts talk about abductions and encounters with what could be off--planet entities, but were they 'off planet' entities?
Maybe yes and maybe, no, under Earth, very possibly under Antarctica. Even our Gvt. does not seem to know.

If anyone, human being, does know they are not at liberty to say anything. That is sad, that we are clueless of what is going on, on this Earth below the surface and above the surface.

It must be that "THEY" are not in our best interest, our ENEMY. If so, we need to find out as soon as possible. Especially if they are aligned with the globalists. That would not surprise me at all.

IMO, religion is not the answer. We need to think for ourselves and do what we need to, to survive. If we wait until we are diminished to the G. Guidestones stated level of population, we are gone--any that survive will be slaves.

Are there any people, groups, armies or other that is doing anything?

There are, as far as I have been able to determine, two sides or groups with sides. One is among us and has been, the other is, to all intents and purposes, friendly towards mankind and trying to help, without getting involved.
Perhaps we should not concern ourselves with attempting violence until we are able to learn more about
the situation.

Religion IS the answer, for some. And if it helps to focus their intention, regardless of which flavor of religion it is, I say so much the better.

However, to make it simple - we can identify the ones among us. Two factors stand out very clearly, and they represent the less-than-human parts of our occupants.

First is a twisted sex drive. Too much, too weird, too brutal, too many children involved, etc. And too little care for the feelings and well being of humans involved. Pedophiles stick out, but there are others - among them the ones that trade positions of power for sexual domination over others.

And second is another non-human attribute being displayed by them - the Psycopathy or lack of feelings and true expressions that we see. This is not simply those that kill as Psychos, but rather the people that you might notice that have to pretend to have emotions - the ones that mistreat animals, children, sick and injured, elderly, etc. Most or many of them have tons of money as well.

You will not be able to pick them up by looks alone - they are not obviously "reptiles" for example. But if you find some that would sell out their own people for money or power, or who your dogs and cats do not like at first sight, then you might want to distance yourself from them.

Jim_Duyer
25th June 2022, 19:27
Lifechanyuan's Views on UFOs and Aliens


Lifechanyuan's view is that no aliens have ever visited the earth, and all the news about aliens visiting the earth is nonsense. There are two reasons. One is that the closest living planet to the earth is 960 light-years away from the earth. There is no so-called science and technology for making aircraft on this planet. They cannot come to the earth. The alien planet with signs of life is 250 million light-years away from the earth. Even if there are aliens living in 250 million light-years, they will come to the earth at the speed of matter. It is simply impossible, unless you do not believe in science. . Second, even if Hawking and other scientists believe that there are "wormholes" and "micro-wormholes" that travel through time and space, even if the "Stargate" exists, the aliens who have mastered the high technology of flying saucers look different from what people on earth do now. The way he "sees" is at least much more beautiful than that of the earth's people, and the fact is that the so-called "seen" and imagined aliens on the earth are ugly. Of course, looking at people from the aesthetic point of view of beasts, maybe People may look ugly, but in any case, beauty is mainly determined by factors such as symmetry, proportion, and color. Aliens can come to earth and prove that they are more advanced than people on earth, can they be that ugly look? Even if these aliens are "evil", do evil things look ugly?

The conclusion is: no aliens have ever come to Earth.

So, what happened to the flying saucers seen on Earth? It is said that some earthlings were abducted by aliens, what happened to the aliens that the abducted earthlings saw and described? And what about the phenomenon of "crop circles" found in various places?

Answer: UFOs are not from alien planets, but from the solar system, more precisely, from the moon. The aliens that people "see" are not people, but "biological robots". Take the Mexican "alien baby" discovered not long ago. The research of scientists in several places has proved that from "Mexican aliens" A human baby" cannot detect the DNA components that life should have, because it is a biological robot. Strictly speaking, it is just a machine that is controlled by remote control. In addition, an egg-sized "alien baby" can be called "" person? biological only. As for whether the "Mexican Alien Baby" is true or not, it is doubtful whether it is fake or not.

The real mystery is that the solar system, the earth, the moon, etc. were created according to God's plan and under the leadership of God, the angels, the entire solar system is to serve mankind, all life on earth is created, and most of the creation is over. The angels left the earth, leaving only a part of the angels to guard the earth. The remaining angels mainly live in underground bases, especially in the Bermuda Pyramid underwater base near 30 degrees north latitude. They often remotely control the flying saucers inside the moon to observe the earth. Everything and changes that happen on the moon, there are doors on the other side of the moon (the side that cannot be seen from the earth) that can be opened, and the flying saucer can enter and exit.

Everything on the earth is under guardianship, and the crop circles found in various places are also done by the angels who guard the earth. They are not for revelation to human beings, but as temporary marks made by the angels who guard the earth. As for the meaning of the sign, it is not understood by human beings, it can only be guessed.

Some people seem to have supernatural thinking and consciousness, such as the invention and creation of computer networks. In fact, it is not what people did, but the invention and creation by the angels who guard the earth who transplanted their own thinking and consciousness into it. People sometimes feel that everything is thinking and creating by themselves, but in fact, they unknowingly follow the procedures and accept the instructions of the higher life.

Human beings, as long as they follow the way of God, everything will be fine, otherwise, natural and man-made disasters will continue.

~~~~~~~~~~

TRUE OR FALSE, YOU DECIDE.:handshake:

Lifechanyuan might be surprised by the fact that brilliant men, such as Nikola Tesla, but many others as well, have repeatedly written that the speed of light is not a limiting factor, nor even a speed limit. Tesla broke it on many occasions, and the people using the Cern equipment have done so recently as well. So distances do not need to equal years in time or in light. If you wish, I will gather my materials and publish here some of that data proving that Einstein was not correct in all that he proposed. And recall that it is a hypothesis after all and not a Universal Speed Limit agreed to by all parties in the Universe in advance.

Eagle Eye
25th June 2022, 20:27
There are, as far as I have been able to determine, two sides or groups with sides.


We must not be confused when we mentioned aliens and the fallen angels. The aliens are organic, synthetic...creation not from this planet. They come and go from this place when they complete their mission. Instead the fallen angels with their leader (that we know well his name), they are here since creation of mankind and will be here until the end of human race on this planet. They are our enemies, they have fallen because they rebelled when humans were created, not accepting someone to be higher in creation (higher in our best form, not in this situation we are now) and they will be here, until they corrupt as many human souls as they can.

Casey Claar
25th June 2022, 20:41
There are, as far as I have been able to determine, two sides or groups with sides.


We must not be confused when we mentioned aliens and the fallen angels. The aliens are organic, synthetic...creation not from this planet. They come and go from this place when they complete their mission. Instead the fallen angels with their leader (that we know well his name), they are here since creation of mankind and will be here until the end of human race on this planet. They are our enemies, they have fallen because they rebelled when humans were created, not accepting someone to be higher in creation (higher in our best form, not in this situation we are now) and they will be here, until they corrupt as many human souls as they can.

This, I will only point out, is precisely the way to call them in and perpetuate this level of idea.

The stories we tell ourselves are important. Speaking is spell casting.

We might realize this more than we do.

Jim_Duyer
25th June 2022, 21:18
There are, as far as I have been able to determine, two sides or groups with sides.


We must not be confused when we mentioned aliens and the fallen angels. The aliens are organic, synthetic...creation not from this planet. They come and go from this place when they complete their mission. Instead the fallen angels with their leader (that we know well his name), they are here since creation of mankind and will be here until the end of human race on this planet. They are our enemies, they have fallen because they rebelled when humans were created, not accepting someone to be higher in creation (higher in our best form, not in this situation we are now) and they will be here, until they corrupt as many human souls as they can.

This, I will only point out, is precisely the way to call them in and perpetuate this level of idea.

The stories we tell ourselves are important. Speaking is spell casting.

We might realize this more than we do.

I agree that speaking of them empowers them. I have refrained from doing so, nearly entirely, except on this same forum, among friends. And I am still in the process of refining my opinions on this topic.

East Sun
25th June 2022, 21:22
I am impressed with the plain speaking power of your post East Sun, you articulate something I too have been musing about. This last few years has revealed a massive, truly astonishingly different direction; it is so utterly malicious and outrageous that I sense another agency at work here!

Just consider how vastly different the political/economic and social worlds have become - compare 2020 with 1997, can we truly account for these shifts in terms of a reasonable progression, the influence of WEF ideology, the emergence of the 'Green Billionaire' cult, the misguided and utterly unscientific lies these people spout: C02 is clearly not the reason for our climate changing, our climate has always shifted and changed in accordance with natural forces and the solar cycles, our inexorable journey through the cosmos as we orbit the center of our Milky Way-too many elements to account for; we know absolutely that the climate alarmists are wrong, their climate models and their intense phobia of fossil fuels, their insistence that humanity is to blame for every cyclone and flood that occurs, each drought and glacial waxing/waning is humanity's fault: we know this is absolutely false. History shows us this very clearly.

So we have these lies, and the limitless propaganda machine spewing utter rubbish at us - who is truly driving this crap fest?
Is all of this simply the outcome of criminal groups executing on their insane agenda, or is there another influence at work here?

I don't know, but the congress of the USA is now addressing UAP, and this is revealing some unexpected truth, even though we should not place too much stock in the official realm, how else can we determine what is happening? We have to observe and study, make our conclusions.

It is all exceedingly strange, we must agree on this point at least?

I am not going to present my overall thoughts, this would take way too long, and you have your own bundle of ideas, I know this: but I think it is important that WE continue to resist, we persist in demanding science, demanding the propaganda cease, it really is down to you and I to get us out of this quagmire of chaos and malicious politics, this suicidal objective of our 'ruling classes' - I truly think it will result in a global civil war, despite 'Legal' remedies and good work from the likes of Peter McCullough, Mike Yeadon, ET AL I foresee enormous turbulence.

I don't have any fancy explanations, or 'secret' information, we can see plainly that our society is in trouble like it never has been before: there are reasons for this which none of us knows, we just have to keep the grind on, keep fighting in your own way.

Hi Mike,
I agree with your observations. Exceedingly strange is a good way to put it.

For some reason politicians have to go along with something they may not
really understand. They are not leading or caring for the people.
Whatever is controlling them, globalists plus their masters, are very powerful
to the point that I hesitate to even imagine what we are up against.

I could be wrong and hope I am. We may never know. I'm curious in
my old age having reached octogenarian status.

There may be some intervention we don't expect.

Casey Claar
25th June 2022, 21:54
I am impressed with the plain speaking power of your post East Sun, you articulate something I too have been musing about. This last few years has revealed a massive, truly astonishingly different direction; it is so utterly malicious and outrageous that I sense another agency at work here!

Just consider how vastly different the political/economic and social worlds have become - compare 2020 with 1997, can we truly account for these shifts in terms of a reasonable progression, the influence of WEF ideology, the emergence of the 'Green Billionaire' cult, the misguided and utterly unscientific lies these people spout: C02 is clearly not the reason for our climate changing, our climate has always shifted and changed in accordance with natural forces and the solar cycles, our inexorable journey through the cosmos as we orbit the center of our Milky Way-too many elements to account for; we know absolutely that the climate alarmists are wrong, their climate models and their intense phobia of fossil fuels, their insistence that humanity is to blame for every cyclone and flood that occurs, each drought and glacial waxing/waning is humanity's fault: we know this is absolutely false. History shows us this very clearly.

So we have these lies, and the limitless propaganda machine spewing utter rubbish at us - who is truly driving this crap fest?
Is all of this simply the outcome of criminal groups executing on their insane agenda, or is there another influence at work here?

I don't know, but the congress of the USA is now addressing UAP, and this is revealing some unexpected truth, even though we should not place too much stock in the official realm, how else can we determine what is happening? We have to observe and study, make our conclusions.

It is all exceedingly strange, we must agree on this point at least?

I am not going to present my overall thoughts, this would take way too long, and you have your own bundle of ideas, I know this: but I think it is important that WE continue to resist, we persist in demanding science, demanding the propaganda cease, it really is down to you and I to get us out of this quagmire of chaos and malicious politics, this suicidal objective of our 'ruling classes' - I truly think it will result in a global civil war, despite 'Legal' remedies and good work from the likes of Peter McCullough, Mike Yeadon, ET AL I foresee enormous turbulence.

I don't have any fancy explanations, or 'secret' information, we can see plainly that our society is in trouble like it never has been before: there are reasons for this which none of us knows, we just have to keep the grind on, keep fighting in your own way.


It is a mess, isn't it?

Can I tell you this same story from a singularity view?

I like everything you have said because it puts all the eggs nicely together in one basket.

It is what we, as a human collective actualize for ourselves through what, fundamentally, is a single, basic imbalance toward a focus on "physical only". We are falling through the divide we ourselves are creating between our Spiritual-and-physical composition. In a nutshell, we are not meant to STAY in 3D physicality forever, we can't just keep failing to make the grade without inevitably being booted out. Some would say opposition / a negative presence, I say "torque" ( it is more accurate ) is applied to us for the sole purpose of getting us spinning. Moving.

Without torque/spin the top topples over, doesn't it. — it stops, falls over dead. It is a human condition, a tendency of the 3D frame of focus to see things in reverse of what they essentially are. We also generally do not use our base mechanism, fight/flight very intelligently or beneficially. This tends to take us further and more easily into fear. The fear distorts the view further. We begin to tell stories with such distortion as to confound. Some of us cluster around some of these stories and lay emphasis to them. Some of us position ourselves differently. Now we begin to tell more stories, attempting plausible explanations of all this. Not realizing it all began, and will indeed end with us. It is the dilemma we must in truth make our way out of.

There is only one way out and that way is IN. Some level of attention must come off the field, off what seems the exterior terrain and onto ourself. Close the eyes. Reconnect inwardly within in a conscious fashion. >> from the withinness, contemplate, meditate, w o n d e r >> then come back into physical space with something useful >> a new idea. Apply it to your own life to see if it has any benefit. It will give itself to consensus if it does. It will move clean through you and into the larger world-field. <— This is how we change what is happening.

We begin to restore right and harmonious Spiritual-physical balance.

We stop looking to others, blaming others, pointing outward toward some hypothetical other.

We return to ourselves.

To Consciousness as a reality. Understanding physicality is a playground.

We will play more beautifully, and brilliantly once we do.

Casey Claar
25th June 2022, 22:25
For some reason politicians have to go along with something they may not
really understand. They are not leading or caring for the people.
Whatever is controlling them, globalists plus their masters, are very powerful
to the point that I hesitate to even imagine what we are up against.

East Sun,

This is far less likely to happen when one is acquainted with their Spiritual side. It is a good example of why we have to be discerning of what energy we place ourselves in <-- this is always our own choice. I will give the social media sites as one example, or in front of the television taking in that sort of "news", and/or anywhere else those kind of frequencies are setting up shop. We place ourselves in a position of having our own ( frequencies ) altered, which opens the doors to behaving and acting in ways we otherwise wouldn't. Originally, everything is our own choice. We then experience our choices. More wisdom would certainly assist us. This said, ALL are sovereign. This means fighting that in any way, such as 'against' what we may see as negative, is to a positively oriented soul an act of negativity in itself. This is why fighting is never an answer, it is never a solution, as we see, war after war after war. This said, neither is fleeing. [ We have that base mechanism in play here again ]. There is always a way to FACE what is before us while moving to find a right balance. Life belongs to us all. As does sovereignty. As more of us begin to function from this idea our world as it is now will begin to change into one far more sustainable than at present.

Tyy1907
26th June 2022, 03:08
Does anyone really know the truth about non-humans here on Earth?

We have had experts talk about abductions and encounters with what could be off--planet entities, but were they 'off planet' entities?
Maybe yes and maybe, no, under Earth, very possibly under Antarctica. Even our Gvt. does not seem to know.

If anyone, human being, does know they are not at liberty to say anything. That is sad, that we are clueless of what is going on, on this Earth below the surface and above the surface.

It must be that "THEY" are not in our best interest, our ENEMY. If so, we need to find out as soon as possible. Especially if they are aligned with the globalists. That would not surprise me at all.

IMO, religion is not the answer. We need to think for ourselves and do what we need to, to survive. If we wait until we are diminished to the G. Guidestones stated level of population, we are gone--any that survive will be slaves.

Are there any people, groups, armies or other that is doing anything?

This answers your inquiry better than I can East Sun. Taken from www.getwisdom.com:

The intention of the extraterrestrials is to eliminate humanity. The exception is being made to provide a way for a representative sample involved with the abduction program conducted by the alien Greys, to sequester them and confine them, so that the research can continue. This is a reward for the Greys, being steadfast worker bees down through thousands of years of the project to rule the Earth and subjugate humanity. And so, in exchange for their service, some humans will be allowed to survive and will be in a special colony that will be heavily restricted, under constant watch, with few freedoms, and nothing resembling prior human civilization. This is not a world you wish to inhabit. That is the only choice that you will have if you wish to continue life as physical human. And so, if this happens the picture will be quite bleak indeed. You will not perish, in a true and complete sense, because your souls will live on. The penalty is that to contribute to this project, and reach a success, will require starting over from the beginning. And so, this could mean another period of one hundred to one hundred and fifty thousand years, from its initiation, to reach a point of maturity, and gaining the wisdom needed to ascend to a new reality. It would mean much of the prior investment would have to be redone, reinvested. This is a very high price to pay indeed, when you are so close to a tipping point and being successful, and having had so much hard-won experience and knowledge in dealing with negativity, and overcoming and healing so many things, and a rich and full understanding of what it means to love and be loved, and the consequences of love’s absence. This is a very, very unhappy potential. So you will not be destroyed, you will simply be denied your future you have come to earn and deserve in all other respects. A final push to overcome the suppression and stay true to divine unity, that is all that is needed—a reunification, so humans can speak as one and act as one, as a divine instrument. That will be the proof of your readiness to spread through the universe as a representative of the divine. With the rich heritage and seasoning, you will be able to handle anything that may come your way.

This is the choice at hand, and this is why it matters. It is the loss of this investment. This is why you come down and subject yourselves again and again, to the risks of enslavement, of being treated unfairly, of being manipulated, of seeing loved ones thwarted and held back from their dreams—suffering of all sorts. It is to advance the cause of the light, and the human expansion into new realms and new possibilities. That can unwind with a major setback if this is allowed to take place. This is why we are bending the rules, somewhat, to help foster this awareness and understanding, because this is an overreaching by the interlopers, to be in your realm and be subjecting you to these extremes of manipulation. But they have latitude through their free will as well, and that is what makes this a contest . It is not that the divine realm cannot rescue you. It is that you must rescue yourselves, to graduate from this training exercise. It is a tough challenge and a daunting task on its face, but keep in mind the solution is simple and within your reach. It is there for the asking, it is there by the doing, and is not beyond your ability. It is only a matter of your seeing the need, and taking the action, to partner with us through direct requesting.

Casey Claar
26th June 2022, 03:56
Wow.

Yes. I agree. This is what happens when you confuse reality for the drama.

This is how you go right into all that. You tell this story again and again until you manifest it.

When will people learn. I really don't know that they will.

East Sun
26th June 2022, 14:38
Tyy1907

Thank you for your post.
You, of course are familiar with Get wisdom.com and I am not.

From what I read of it, it is not for me. We all learn by choosing
what seems best and putting the rest on a back burner maybe never
to be considered again.
There are sure to be hidden facts we may learn about in time to come.

But right now there are very real problems that we on Avalon know
about that need to be addressed. We are kept in the dark more
than we realize even with our striving to learn more about our
situation. We are progressing while going one step forward and
one step back.

Depopulation of Earth's humans is a high priority we need to make
people aware of imo.

Tyy1907
26th June 2022, 16:59
The healing need is so great right now. I only saw this once I began a healing process for myself and my long list of traumas etc. I'm not there yet but I've moved upward, finally. What if healing could be brought in for the ones seeking our destruction? The tools are out there. Take care you guys.

Casey Claar
26th June 2022, 17:50
Tyy,

What if it is not so much about what any others happen to be doing, but the choices we ourselves are making?

The focus truly is better placed here.


Casey

Delight
26th June 2022, 18:38
Tyy,

What if it is not so much about what any others happen to be doing, but the choices we ourselves are making?

The focus truly is better placed here.


Casey

I may be mistaken but so far I am convinced that this whole experience is orchestrated for each of us to become sovereign self responsible beings. IT is an immersion to become capable of loving ourselves and all (by extension of our being ONE). I have always been really taken by the FACT that in any situation there are literally as many versions of an event as the people involved.

ALSO, the FACT is that whatever people think most about and focus upon does become what is experienced.

There is SO MUCH to learn concerning how to navigate a reality that is all about responding to OUR input.

One new factor IMO in the last couple of generations is the mass ability to make people all think alike. This means that a scenario can be pumped up and then we will all agree to place our attention THERE and make this scene happen. "Reality" can be mass manufactured. The one I see in the collective looks suicidal.

I am not sure humanity will survive the onslaught of evil we are agreeing to imagine.

Despite all the bad news, I expect Sovereign beings will make it out of this realm "alive". I have NO idea if what I believe is true IS TRUE. The best I can do is follow my own advice and FOCUS on what I want to be for all beings including me. Actually that is to realize being Free and Happy... I can be free and happy JUST KNOWING "I AM a sovereign being" learning and NEVER COMING BACK.

Delight
28th June 2022, 04:56
Despite all the bad news, I expect Sovereign beings will make it out of this realm "alive".

Zach Bush is a beautiful person and talks about Sovereignty so lovingly.

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