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Sue (Ayt)
8th August 2022, 23:20
Trump says FBI agents raided his Florida home
Reuters
Aug 8 (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday his home in Palm Beach, Florida, has been raided by FBI agents.
"After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate," Trump said in a statement.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-fbi-agents-raided-his-florida-home-2022-08-08/
Mar-A-Lago ‘under siege, raided, occupied’ by FBI agents, Trump says
Former President Donald Trump said Monday evening that FBI agents have “occupied” his Mar-A-Lago estate.
In a statement sent shortly before 7 p.m. EDT, Mr. Trump said his home “is currently under siege, raided and occupied by a large group of FBI agents.”
He didn’t elaborate on why, but said the raid is the kind of thing that “could only take place in broken, Third-World countries.”
Numerous reports from the Jan. 6 special committee have made clear that some sort of probe is closing in on Mr. Trump‘s inner circle and Mr. Trump himself.
No former U.S. president has ever been indicted. Even Richard Nixon, who resigned as the Watergate probe closed in on him, did not face any criminal charges, but was pardoned by Gerald Ford, his successor as president.
Mr. Trump’s denunciations were furious.
“Nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before … It is prosecutorial misconduct, a weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don’t want me to run for President in 2024,” he wrote.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/8/mar-lago-raided-fbi-agents-donald-trump-says/
mountain_jim
8th August 2022, 23:30
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/donald-trump-says-mar-lago-raided-under-siege-fbi
Donald Trump Announces Mar-A-Lago "Raided, Under Siege, And Occupied" By The FBI
Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
Moments ago, Donald Trump - who is still banned by Twitter - published a statement on Truth Social in which he said that his Florida home, Mar A Lago is “currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents", an assault which according to Trump "could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries." He is probably right. He also claims the Fed's presence was unannounced and the reason was politically motivated.
His full statement posted on his Truth Social account is below:
Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents. Nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before. After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate. It is prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don't want me to run for President in 2024, especially based on recent polls, and who will likewise do anything to stop Republicans and Conservatives in the upcoming Midterm Elections. Such an assault could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries. Sadly, America has now become one of those Countries, corrupt at a level not seen before. They even broke into my safe! What is the difference between this and Watergate, where operatives broke into the Democrat National Committee? Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States.
The political persecution of President Donald J. Trump has been going on for years, with the now fully debunked Russia, Russia, Russia Scam, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, and so much more, it just never ends. It is political targeting at the highest level!
Hillary Clinton was allowed to delete and acid wash 33,000 E-mails AFTER they were subpoenaed by Congress. Absolutely nothing has happened to hold her accountable. She even took antique furniture, and other items from the White House.
I stood up to America's bureaucratic corruption, I restored power to the people, and truly delivered for our Country, like we have never seen before. The establishment hated it. Now, as they watch my endorsed candidates win big victories, and see my dominance in all polls, they are trying to stop me, and the Republican Party, once more. The lawlessness, political persecution, and Witch Hunt must be exposed and stopped.
I will continue to fight for the Great American People!
(tweets and more at link)
Satori
9th August 2022, 00:03
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/donald-trump-says-mar-lago-raided-under-siege-fbi
Donald Trump Announces Mar-A-Lago "Raided, Under Siege, And Occupied" By The FBI
Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
Moments ago, Donald Trump - who is still banned by Twitter - published a statement on Truth Social in which he said that his Florida home, Mar A Lago is “currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents", an assault which according to Trump "could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries." He is probably right. He also claims the Fed's presence was unannounced and the reason was politically motivated.
His full statement posted on his Truth Social account is below:
Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents. Nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before. After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate. It is prosecutorial misconduct, the weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don't want me to run for President in 2024, especially based on recent polls, and who will likewise do anything to stop Republicans and Conservatives in the upcoming Midterm Elections. Such an assault could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries. Sadly, America has now become one of those Countries, corrupt at a level not seen before. They even broke into my safe! What is the difference between this and Watergate, where operatives broke into the Democrat National Committee? Here, in reverse, Democrats broke into the home of the 45th President of the United States.
The political persecution of President Donald J. Trump has been going on for years, with the now fully debunked Russia, Russia, Russia Scam, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, and so much more, it just never ends. It is political targeting at the highest level!
Hillary Clinton was allowed to delete and acid wash 33,000 E-mails AFTER they were subpoenaed by Congress. Absolutely nothing has happened to hold her accountable. She even took antique furniture, and other items from the White House.
I stood up to America's bureaucratic corruption, I restored power to the people, and truly delivered for our Country, like we have never seen before. The establishment hated it. Now, as they watch my endorsed candidates win big victories, and see my dominance in all polls, they are trying to stop me, and the Republican Party, once more. The lawlessness, political persecution, and Witch Hunt must be exposed and stopped.
I will continue to fight for the Great American People!
(tweets and more at link)
Did anything like this happen to Nixon? No. To Bush Sr? No. The Clintons? No. Bush the simple? No. Barry Sotero, aka, Barrack Obama? No?
Each and everyone of the foregoing committed, and demonstrably so, innumerable acts of treason and heinous crimes, including murder. Yet, nothing. A free pass. Book deals and multimillion dollar speaking engagements.
Biden, if he makes it, will see the same outrageous special treatment to likewise pay him off for being a dutiful minion to the murdering global oligarchs.
But Trump? Bannon? Navarro? Jones? So many others? You? Me?
This is unprecedented. This is off the charts. This is another indescribable direct assault on liberty in the war we Americans in particular, and citizens of the world in general, are being subjected to. We are in a war. You are the enemy. Don’t kid yourselves otherwise.
They are running scared, so they are doubling and tripling down. That is the most dangerous point in any confrontation.
Talk is cheap. The time for standing idly by and doing nothing as we are murdered and pillaged in every conceivable way has long since passed.
Now is, indeed, the time for all good men to come to the aid of his country.
mojo
9th August 2022, 02:26
Satori well said... Listen to Stephen Miller...
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Waldo
9th August 2022, 02:47
Socartes has been forecasting political panic cycles in 2022 and 2023
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/fbi-raids-trumps-home-doj-planning-indictment-end-of-the-usa-as-we-have-known-it/
ExomatrixTV
9th August 2022, 02:47
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norman
9th August 2022, 03:12
. . .Talk is cheap. . . . .
. . .Now is, indeed, the time . . .
"We can win this, but not if we think we are fighting each other" - Mel K July 2022
norman
9th August 2022, 03:51
Why are they targeting Trump?
The criminal law at issue is 18 USC 2071.
Those convicted of this offense will be “disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
https://t.me/rightonradio/10596
https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1556828655900303360
thepainterdoug
9th August 2022, 04:25
I am so beyond outraged and disgusted by these actions against the former President especially in the light of how all these democrat criminals go scot free for months and years at a time, no consequences, no arrests, no nothing! Banana republic for sure.
I hope the entire thing backfires on them and they are torn from office. FU** THEM
pyrangello
9th August 2022, 07:35
This is beyond unlawful harassment, and if the FBI thinks they improved their credibility today , they not only went into the toilet but flushed it themselfs. Never before in history has a president been vilified starting even before he was sworn into office, remember the phrase stated by a congresswoman before Trump was even sworn in "we're gonna impeach this mother fuxxer". AND IT NEVER HAS STOPPED SINCE. I believe today awoke a sleeping giant of a movement because not only do they violate the former presidents personal space , they also violated every American that has president trumps back.
jaybee
9th August 2022, 10:06
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It's infuriating and frustrating to see the never ending PSYOP and attacks against Trump - Trump may have dropped the ball and disappointed many when it came to the Covid Jab business, but basically he is a unique + major threat to the NWO Globalists who need to keep their Puppet Presidents (+ administrations) in power in America or they can't progress with their plans for a Global Technology based Dictatorship...they have to control America and destroy the America that we know or their nefarious plot gets derailed....
Trump has it coming at him from all angles...
See video below for a dose of reverse reality... :/
Bonafide War Criminal Says Trump Is “Nation’s Greatest Threat”
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video description...
Dick Cheney is a notorious war criminal, torture approver, congenital liar and generally loathsome individual, but he doesn’t like Donald Trump, so that makes him OK in many liberals’ minds. Most recently the former Vice President emerged from his crypt to record a campaign video for daughter Liz, who is well behind in her Congressional reelection race, and in the video Cheney lit into Trump as a liar, a coward and not a real man. Democrats, of course, lapped it up. Because what’s a million dead Iraqis when there’s a big bad orange man to berate?
Jimmy and America’s comedian Kurt Metzger discuss just how much wrongdoing liberals are willing to overlook as long as someone criticizes Donald Trump.
ExomatrixTV
9th August 2022, 11:12
Trump Gets Raided by the FBI at the Mar-A-Lago: My Hot Take!
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A banana republic move which carries a high risk of spectacularly backfiring: archive.ph/JuXoB (https://archive.ph/JuXoB)
mountain_jim
9th August 2022, 13:12
The phrase "You are watching a movie" keeps echoing in my head.. :popcorn:
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1556899799672258560?s=20&t=ijS6ZDrM7jY4JMBT7S_7EA
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Ernie Nemeth
9th August 2022, 13:17
And so we keep holding our breath, hoping now people will see the dire straits we are in...
Satori
9th August 2022, 13:32
Why are they targeting Trump?
The criminal law at issue is 18 USC 2071.
Those convicted of this offense will be “disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
https://t.me/rightonradio/10596
https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1556828655900303360
And, there is a very specific reason these criminals use the words “insurrection” and “rebellion” when referring to January 6, 2021 and Trump. Take a look at Section 3 to the XIV Amendment to the US Constitution.
https://www.owleyes.org/text/fourteenth-amendment-to-the-us-constitution/read/text-of-the-amendment#root-2
This is in large part an effort to disqualify Trump (and others) from even running for any office again, let alone hold any office. They plan to silence not just him, but many others, one way or another. Let that sink in.
9ideon
9th August 2022, 13:33
The phrase "You are watching a movie" keeps echoing in my head.. :popcorn:
I hear you man, I have been contemplating that I might be in some sort of Coma and this is all but created twisted reality (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5CJM4vCAXc).
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Waldo
9th August 2022, 13:41
The Dems aren't dumb, evil yes but not dumb. They know this is an an unprecedented move designed to outrage the other side, don't give them your emotional reactions. Situational awareness is the order of the day.
Think before you react the other side has already thought it out nothing is as it seems.
mojo
9th August 2022, 13:46
Patel Patriot shares on the reason for the corrupt FBI doing this. Start around 20 minutes in...
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ExomatrixTV
9th August 2022, 14:03
Dan Bongino Reacts To The FBI Raiding Mar-a-lago: "This Is Some Third World Bullsh*t Right Here."
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/j/N/H/i/jNHif.gaa.mp4
source (https://rumble.com/v1f9vbd-dan-bongino-reacts-to-the-fbi-raiding-mar-a-lago-this-is-some-third-world-b.html)
ExomatrixTV
9th August 2022, 14:11
Trump Home Invasion Sparks Outrage: This Will Turn The Tide!
The FBI has searched (https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1611167926/fbi-doet-inval-in-villa-donald-trump-in-florida) Donald Trump's villa. In a statement, the former president writes that he has cooperated in a government investigation. He calls the raid 'unnecessary and unacceptable'.
US media cite "anonymous sources" as saying the case involves "boxes full of confidential government documents" that disappeared from the White House after Trump left the White House.
Under siege
“My beautiful home, Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, is currently under siege, raided and occupied by a large group of FBI agents,” Trump wrote.
He said the "radical-left Democrats" are trying at all costs to prevent him from running for the 2024 presidential election.
Many protesters gathered at the house. A Cuban woman asked the media why the FBI is raiding Trump but not Hunter Biden.
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backup video (https://rumble.com/v1fcfgd-august-9-2022.html)
A harbinger of a very ugly time
The raid provoked many reactions. “Welcome to our sick world,” writes Anthony Stabourlos, president of the Belgian party Relego. “Would the Americans finally dare to stand up? Never in the history of the United States has this happened to a president. This is a harbinger of a very ugly time.”
Brigitte Antolini, party leader of FVD Haarlemmermeer, adds: “It's unbelievable what is happening here. It is all too clear that they are terrified that Trump will run for re-election in 2024.”
She is supported by former councilor Tjerk Langman. “The Democrats are behind this, because they are doing everything they can to prevent Trump from running again in 2024,” he says.
Dangerous game
Journalist Joost Niemoller speaks of 'a life-threatening game'. “Biden is in bad shape in the midterm elections. He may have to leave the field soon because of dementia. That is why political opponents such as Trump and Bannon are eliminated in advance.”
“The American state is opening the attack on the American people. This will turn out very special,” says Niemoller.
“If you belong to the wrong political affiliation, you are increasingly outlawed, even if you are a former president of the US,” responds media director of Ongehoord Nederland Peter Vlemmix.
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source (https://www.ninefornews.nl/inval-in-huis-trump-leidt-tot-grote-verontwaardiging-dit-zal-heel-bijzonder-uitpakken) (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳
thepainterdoug
9th August 2022, 14:25
Dan Bongino is 100% on target. I barely recognize this place America as it stands right now.
Can I go into a school and expose myself to children, much less anyone? NO ITS AGAINST THE LAW.
Why can transgenders do so?
Why can transgenders march around 5 year olds to cheering crowds with fake tits swaying and full genitals being exposed? Where is the Sheriff, the FBI????
I have seen it posted on Tic Toc and reposted on Gab and so on.
How far does a breakdown need to occur before we have all had it, lib and conservative alike?
Trump for all his controversy, took on the corrupt swamp called politics and threatens their huge comprehensive criminal gang. Add challenging Pharma and you need look no further for motive to destroy him.
I hope this is where things begin to turn and a change begins.
ExomatrixTV
9th August 2022, 14:58
FBI RAIDS Donald Trump: This Means WAR!!! | Louder with Crowder:
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mountain_jim
9th August 2022, 16:11
Polish Owl (https://gab.com/polesowa/posts/108793202082732025) 🇵🇱🦉
@polesowa
You can't make this stuff up if you tried! The judge who signed the sealed warrant for the FBI raid on Trump's home is the lawyer who defended Jeffrey Epstein!
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/113/039/719/original/1476eb3ea126d9d5.jpg
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https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/judge-who-approved-fbi-raid-on-mar-a-lago-once-linked-to-jeffrey-epstein/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
Judge who approved FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago once linked to Jeffrey Epstein
By Miranda Devine, Mark Moore and Samuel Chamberlain
The Florida federal magistrate judge who signed off on a search warrant authorizing the FBI raid of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort left the local US Attorney’s office more than a decade ago to rep employees of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein who had received immunity in the long-running sex-trafficking investigation of the financier.
Sources tell The Post that Judge Bruce Reinhart approved the warrant that enabled federal agents to converge on the palatial South Florida estate on Monday in what Trump called an “unannounced raid on my home.”
Reinhart was elevated to magistrate judge in March 2018 after 10 years in private practice. That November, the Miami Herald reported that he had represented several of Epstein’s employees — including, by Reinhart’s own admission to the outlet, Epstein’s pilots; his scheduler, Sarah Kellen; and Nadia Marcinkova, who Epstein once reportedly described as his “Yugoslavian sex slave.”
Kellen and Marcinkova were among Epstein’s lieutenants who were granted immunity as part of a controversial 2007 deal with federal prosecutors that allowed the pervert to plead guilty to state charges rather than federal crimes. Epstein wound up serving just 13 months in county jail and was granted work release.
The FBI raided Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida and broke into a safe in his palatial home, the former president said Monday.
REUTERS
According to the outlet, Reinhart resigned from the South Florida US Attorney’s Office effective on New Year’s Day 2008 and went to work for Epstein’s cohorts the following day. Epstein, who was found dead in August 2019 of an apparent suicide in the Manhattan Correctional Center while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges, had hired a stable of high-powered lawyers, including former independent counsel Kenneth Starr.
Reinhart was later named in a civil lawsuit that accused him of violating Justice Department policies by switching sides in the middle of the Epstein investigation, suggesting he had used inside information about the probe to build favor with the notorious defendant, the Herald reported in 2018.
In a 2011 affidavit, Reinhart denied he had done anything improper and insisted that since he was not involved in the federal investigation of Epstein, he was not privy to inside information about the case.
However, in a 2013 court filing, Reinhart’s former colleagues contradicted him, saying that he had “learned confidential, non-public information about the Epstein matter.” Reinhart noted to the Herald in response that a complaint filed against him by a lawyer for Epstein’s victims had been dismissed by the Justice Department.
In his 12 years as a federal prosecutor, according to his official biography, Reinhart “managed a docket that covered the full spectrum of federal crimes, including narcotics, violent crimes, public corruption, financial frauds, child pornography and immigration.”
Reinhart is one of three federal magistrate judges in the West Palm Beach offices of the US District Court for the Southern District Court of Florida, along with William Matthewman and Ryon McCabe.
Two recent warrant applications were assigned to Reinhart and entered into the court system on Monday, the Miami Herald reported, but those warrants and information about who they targeted remain sealed. Records show another warrant was issued by Reinhart on Friday, but its contents were also sealed.
SEE ALSO
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has threatened to open an investigation into the FBI raid of Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate.
McCarthy vows probe over Trump raid, tells AG Garland ‘clear your calendar’
Trump confirmed media reports of a raid at his Florida resort on Monday evening, saying Mar-a-Lago was “under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents.”
The agents were reportedly searching the seaside property for boxes of classified documents Trump allegedly brought to the ritzy resort after he left the White House in January 2021, which would be a violation of federal record-keeping laws.
The National Archives and Records Administration said in February that it found classified documents in 15 boxes at Mar-a-Lago and alerted the FBI.
The removal of classified documents to unauthorized locations is banned under federal law, although Trump had wide powers when he was president to declassify documents.
The raid on Mar-a-Lago comes amid the House select committee’s continuing investigation into Trump’s role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol as Congress met to certify the 2020 presidential election results.
A federal grand jury is also investigating the riot and Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
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update (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/50549)
Everyone has really run with this sealed warrant from Reinhardt in FL -
It’s sealed. We have legitimately ZERO way to know this was the warrant for Maralago. It could’ve been for anything.
Could it be for the raid? I guess it could - but folks are calling this judge. I’d suggest a bit of patience on that. It is however interesting that he recused himself from the RICO case
I personally would wait a bit before I go nuts that this is the one.
later update
later update
Brian Cates
Forwarded from
Jack Posobiec (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/50554)
We now know the judge who signed off on the Mar-a-Lago raid was Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyer. Don’t question it!
ExomatrixTV
9th August 2022, 16:17
Epstein Connection To Judge Who Reportedly Ordered Trump FBI Raid!:
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mountain_jim
9th August 2022, 16:38
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/fbi-raid-trump-compound-stands-stark-contrast-clinton-treatment
FBI raid on Trump compound stands in stark contrast to Clinton treatment years earlier
Legal experts question why FBI conducted raid and didn't use subpoena, especially when Hillary Clinton's lawyer got to hold classified materials in his safe.
(rest at link)
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Brian Cates
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Mr Dirt (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/50535)
Miranda Devine just reporting that the docs taken from Trump's house were boxed up by the GSA and mailed to Trump by them. And that the FBI has had access to these docs for MONTHS.
https://truthsocial.com/users/MrDirt/statuses/108790182178500134
(I assume this is J6-related, not really about the docs being referenced.)
mountain_jim
9th August 2022, 17:57
Brian Cates
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Watch this CNN video segment. What do the guests say?
1) Trump knew this was coming
2) Trump was counting on it
3) It was brilliant (their words)
4) Within hours he released a campaign style ad that must have been already prepared to go
CNN knows somebody in the justice system fell for BAIT and just handed Trump the Republican nomination, and maybe even a 2024 victory.
https://truthsocial.com/users/dbongino/statuses/108793990046008572
Dan Bongino
(https://truthsocial.com/@dbongino/posts/108793990046008572)
@dbongino·
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Even liberals on CNN are realizing how bad this could get for them.
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thepainterdoug
9th August 2022, 18:05
EXCELLENT Mountain Jim!! I sure hope so.
mountain_jim
9th August 2022, 18:22
twitter and other sites slow-downs/ brief outages in last 15 minutes per my experience and downdetector.com reports
https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1557036201445658624?s=20
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Satori
9th August 2022, 18:30
Brian Cates
Forwarded from
TruthHammer (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/50590) 🙏🇺🇸
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Watch this CNN video segment. What do the guests say?
1) Trump knew this was coming
2) Trump was counting on it
3) It was brilliant (their words)
4) Within hours he released a campaign style ad that must have been already prepared to go
CNN knows somebody in the justice system fell for BAIT and just handed Trump the Republican nomination, and maybe even a 2024 victory.
https://truthsocial.com/users/dbongino/statuses/108793990046008572
Dan Bongino
(https://truthsocial.com/@dbongino/posts/108793990046008572)
@dbongino
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Even liberals on CNN are realizing how bad this could get for them.
v1cqych
Here come the propaganda spinsters, again.
Let's see if I have this right: Trump planned in advance to conduct himself in such a way that would cause the DOJ and the FBI to raid his home. Indeed, he baited the decision makers in these agencies to do so in order to enhance his chances of being elected in 2024. He did so at this time because he was losing his base and donations to his election campaign were dwindling.
So, we are to believe that somehow Trump is able to control the DOJ, the FBI, a federal magistrate judge and others and thereby manipulate these agencies and people at his will to fall for his plan and take the bait on cue. All so that he can rally the MAGA troops around him for the mid-term elections and for his 2024 bid for the Whitehouse.
Sounds like the lamestream and the Biden handlers have been baking Q bread and eating Q crumps, if not whole slices.
No credit whatsoever is given to those who have rightfully decried the Gestapo tactics of this usurping, illegitimate regime and who seek to expose the architects of treason and crime for what they really are.
Nor is any credit given to the intelligence, sincerity and genuine, heartfelt patriotism of the masses of people who love this country and who support Trump and others who share, at least in some measure, his vision and desire to restore the USA to its erstwhile Constitutional Republic.
Bill Ryan
9th August 2022, 18:43
An excellent discussion, live now (an hour in so far), with Alexander Mercouris and Alex Christoforou of The Duran and Robert Barnes. Enjoy. :)
Trump raid, Biden DOJ crosses the Rubicon - with Robert Barnes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_qVQdAjyo
Ratszinger
9th August 2022, 20:23
Trump didn't come down with the last drop of rain! My guess is he knew they were coming and already planned for it. The FBI and DOJ are corrupt and the nation knows it for the most part as does a large part of the world. But that is nothing new. They've been corrupt since the beginning. They are controlled however, by the president mainly and this falls back on the Biden crime family IMO! Here is my prediction also, not that anyone cares. If the FBI didn't find anything serious and significant they just gave Trump the next election in a walk!
mountain_jim
9th August 2022, 21:14
Trump didn't come down with the last drop of rain! My guess is he knew they were coming and already planned for it. The FBI and DOJ are corrupt and the nation knows it for the most part as does a large part of the world. But that is nothing new. They've been corrupt since the beginning. They are controlled however, by the president mainly and this falls back on the Biden crime family IMO! Here is my prediction also, not that anyone cares. If the FBI didn't find anything serious and significant they just gave Trump the next election in a walk!
which the Babylon Bee already has covered. :)
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-thanks-fbi-for-kicking-off-his-2024-reelection-campaign/
Trump Thanks FBI For Kicking Off His 2024 Reelection Campaign
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Aug 9, 2022 · BabylonBee.com
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MAR-A-LAGO, FL — The morning after Trump's Florida home was raided by FBI agents, the former president took the time to thank the FBI for officially kicking off his reelection campaign.
"I would like to thank the F...B...I... remember them, the FBI? How about those beauties, huh?" said Trump to a roaring crowd of thousands outside his resort. "They came into my home to make your favorite president look like a criminal. Such losers, such losers. But everyone still loves me so it's ok. They didn't even find anything! I'm gonna be the President again!"
Sources close to Trump say his first act as President will be to fire his own appointed FBI Director Christopher Wray and replace him with a used dust mop from the Capitol janitor's closet before razing the Hoover building and banishing all FBI agents to Gitmo.
"I'm gonna fire everyone, literally everyone in government," said Trump. Federal Reserve? Gone! EPA? Gone! CIA? Gone! Department of Education? ATF? HHS? Gone, gone, gone!"
The news media responded to Trump's statement by calling him a "threat to democracy worse than Hitler" while tearing their clothes and heaping dust upon the crowns of their heads.
(more at link)
(this is satire, should anyone be in doubt) :)
T Smith
9th August 2022, 21:33
Here is my prediction also, not that anyone cares. If the FBI didn't find anything serious and significant they just gave Trump the next election in a walk!
An election in the United States? What's that?
Ratszinger
9th August 2022, 23:54
Here is my prediction also, not that anyone cares. If the FBI didn't find anything serious and significant they just gave Trump the next election in a walk!
An election in the United States? What's that?
It's a battle between feudal lords! Its gang warfare on the world stage, nothing more nothing less but they really do rely on the court of public opinion! I mean they are not about to pay for all that with their own money! Even Trump begs for money everyday! My inbox is full of his spam! Still tho, he is no different as they all use OPM (Other People's Money) and it's to fund their gang warfare. That's what this is, organized crime! The election, while largely symbolic these days is still very important to them to gather money so there is a lot of legitimacy to the election, but they also have operatives trying to fix things as we all know! I just don't think people are going to stand by and do nothing about what they see in this coming election unlike the last one! In fact I think they are preparing for the fight now cause I've never seen republicans this fired up! I personally think the left crossed a big line here and that they poked the bear just one too many times!
DNA
9th August 2022, 23:57
Here is my prediction also, not that anyone cares. If the FBI didn't find anything serious and significant they just gave Trump the next election in a walk!
An election in the United States? What's that?
It's a battle between feudal lords! Its gang warfare on the world stage, nothing more nothing less but they really do rely on the court of public opinion! I mean they are not about to pay for all that with their own money! Even Trump begs for money everyday! My inbox is full of his spam! Still tho, he is no different as they all use OPM (Other People's Money) and it's to fund their gang warfare. That's what this is, organized crime! The election, while largely symbolic these days is still very important to them to gather money so there is a lot of legitimacy to the election, but they also have operatives trying to fix things as we all know! I just don't think people are going to stand by and do nothing about what they see in this coming election unlike the last one! In fact I think they are preparing for the fight now cause I've never seen republicans this fired up! I personally think the left crossed a big line here and that they poked the bear just one too many times!
Trump is Jesus effing Christ compared to the rest of them. To the extent you must be brainwashed is inconceivable if you can't see that.
thepainterdoug
10th August 2022, 00:24
DNA right on my friend. Its is beyond mind boggling how many issues of common sense we need to ignore to see Trump anything other than a total gift to us all, and what is needed.
How does Biden criminal gang not allow a world champion tennis player into the country who is not vaccinated, yet allow 3- 4 million unvaccinated border people to waltz right in.
let me stop there! NOVAC DJOVIC denied entry cause hes not vaccinated https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/07/22/novak-djokovic--us-open-n2610659
does anyone get how hell fire mad freaked out and beyond disgusted I am that anything else would even need to be put in front of your eyes to have you see how ever lovin Fu@@$d up this is?
and thats just the beginning!
this is the worst most corrupt destructive fake Pres and government in my lifetime.
LETS GET RID OF THEM!!!
norman
10th August 2022, 00:41
What's the difference between a safe and a server ?
edit:
What they got the search warrant for may NOT be what they were really hoping to find.
They'd love to find proof of a link between Trump and Putin, wouldn't they ?
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 00:48
Why THIS legal expert says FBI's Trump raid is ‘OUTRAGEOUS’:
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pyrangello
10th August 2022, 01:06
I'm going to pivot in a different direction , Trump seems very collective thru this . As tactical as he is , do you think that all the stuff they got means absolutely nothing just like all the tax returns and everything else they have been searching for these past 7 years. Do you think he is way ahead of these clowns on a witch hunt? My gut says yes .
pyrangello
10th August 2022, 01:09
Just found this and we know video :
ALWAYS 10 Steps Ahead! The RAID! Coverup? FEAR Mongering? We Watch & LAUGH! Awake Yet? PRAY! - And We Know
Tuesday, August 9, 2022 16:11
https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2022/08/always-10-steps-ahead-the-raid-coverup-fear-mongering-we-watch-laugh-awake-yet-pray-and-we-know-3637956.html
onawah
10th August 2022, 01:19
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mojo
10th August 2022, 02:19
This is a DOJ set up. The DOJ and FBI want to go after Maga and for them to get angry over the raid and to use it as a way to legitimize monitoring of conservatives & Maga supporters. Greg Gutfeld does a great job explaining this very interesting possibility at the 16:minute mark, and is worth a watch. It very true that Trumps supporters are upset so you can see the value that DOJ wants to capitalize on.
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T Smith
10th August 2022, 11:18
I'm going to pivot in a different direction , Trump seems very collective thru this . As tactical as he is , do you think that all the stuff they got means absolutely nothing just like all the tax returns and everything else they have been searching for these past 7 years. Do you think he is way ahead of these clowns on a witch hunt? My gut says yes .
Sure, but what's to stop them from planting or "discovering" anything they want? Especially if nothing's there?
There is absolutely nothing legitimate about this government--er, tyranny--whatsoever.
Ratszinger
10th August 2022, 12:20
I'm going to pivot in a different direction , Trump seems very collective thru this . As tactical as he is , do you think that all the stuff they got means absolutely nothing just like all the tax returns and everything else they have been searching for these past 7 years. Do you think he is way ahead of these clowns on a witch hunt? My gut says yes .
Sure, but what's to stop them from planting or "discovering" anything they want? Especially if nothing's there?
There is absolutely nothing legitimate about this government--er, tyranny--whatsoever.
They were watched closely by Eric Trump and the secret service all there as well as private security. Not to forget everything is recorded and documented by the Trump security team! IF the FBI planted anything they'd catch them in the act on their own security you can bet. FACE BOOK is full of posts like this right now from pasters across the country,"last week a young blonde pastor, Julie Green, said an event was coming, for us not to fear the FBI. They will be their own undoing and are about to be no more!" I've seen several posts on other places like Twitter of pasters and revs all saying prophecy and advising their congregation not to fear a big event coming. MY own neighbor told me something similar about a week ago that his rev. at church told the church he saw in a vision something big coming and not to be afraid. I think the FBI is on thin ice.
pyrangello
10th August 2022, 13:20
Even practical good common sense american citizens who are voting democrats have to be scratching their heads going WTF. This keeps up will have a 10 year party with investigations on President Trump with nothing found and at a cost of how much. The mueller investigation was what 40 million, got a ton of lawyers rich and I mean a bunch, they were probably in the charging range of $2500.00 an hour. . Stormy Daniels attorney landed himself in jail he was so corrupt and produced nothing. I remember when Trump was first running, all the new media anchors laughing saying no way is this a joke? Then when he started getting momentum they just laughed a little. Then as the election got closer they produced a video 11 years prior, thats when I said , they have to go back that far and it was a big zero. President trump has secret service assigned to him, has his own security team and god knows what else. I'm sure they were sweeping everything down after the FBI left for bugs. This is a very dirty game that is being played , very dirty where there are no rules .
George Washington rode a white horse and never got shot, think about that , he was a moving target and yet even his own men thought they were protected by his presence as they thought God had a hand in his safety for this country being created. After 7 years of vilification on himself , his family, his business, the first lady. He's still out there saying how great America is. And even during his presidency President trump donated all his salary to charity, mostly veterans organizations. I'd say there's something going on with his protection as well and God has a hand in it. Continue to pray for his safety like the pastors around the country in the post above. Oh and remember the day all the witches got together and tried to put a spell of Trump, even that didn't work. Prayer is a powerful thing isn't it! And the big guy upstairs is even more powerful. keep the faith.
mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 13:21
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mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 15:18
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11099205/Eric-Trump-reveals-REALLY-happened-FBI-raid.html
EXCLUSIVE: Eric Trump reveals what REALLY happened in FBI raid: President's son says agents REFUSED to hand over warrant, kicked lawyer off property, searched Melania's clothes - and ordered security cameras to be turned
Eric Trump recounted the Monday raid of his father's Mar-a-Lago residence in an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com
He said that they kicked Donald Trump's lawyer Christina Bobb off the property and made her wait at the end of a driveway during the raid
Also said that FBI agents refused to provide a copy of the search warrant
The former president's son said contrary to FBI direction, they refused to turn off security cameras at the Palm Beach estate
Eric Trump revealed FBI agents refused to hand over the search warrant for their raid on Mar-a-Lago and kicked an attorney off the property in a new, incisive account of the Monday operation at the Florida estate.
Speaking exclusively to DailyMail.com, the former president's son said the 30 agents who arrived at the property asked staff to turn security cameras off – but they refused.
The bureau, he said, also brought safe crackers in to break into his father's safe, and he slammed the investigators for rummaging former first lady Melania's wardrobe and searching through clothing.
He called the raid another 'coordinated attack' on his father Donald Trump and insisted there is no way President Joe Biden was kept in the dark about the search.
The latest explosive account comes with the Department of Justice facing mounting pressure to explain what grounds they had for the search.
Eric said that his father's lawyer Christina Bobb was forced to stand at the end of the Mar-a-Lago driveway throughout the raid.
'There's 30 agents there,' he recalled of the Monday search in a phone call with DailyMail.com. 'They told our lawyer… you have to leave the property right now. Turn off all security cameras.'
'They would not give her the search warrant,' he claimed. 'So they showed it to her from about 10 feet away. They would not give her a copy of the search warrant.'
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Eric said lawyer Christina Bobb was forced to wait at the end of a driveway during the search. Pictured: Armed Secret Service agents stand outside an entrance to former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate, late Monday, August 8 in Palm Beach, Florida
He said that Bobb was confused why a lawyer for the person's home being raided by the FBI was not able to see or obtain a copy of the search warrant.
Eric said he would be 'thrilled' to find out if there was a valid search warrant.
'It's all a coordinated attack with the FBI,' the former president's son added, insisting the raid was approved by President Biden.
'Do you think that the FBI director is going to raid the former president's house, especially a house as you know, kind of world renowned as Mar Lago is in a place as public as Mar Lago is without getting the approval of President ?' Eric questioned.
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[B]The above timeline highlights just some of former President Donald Trump's battles with the National Archives since leaving office, including an unrelated court fight with the January 6 committee
By not turning off the security cameras, Eric said they saw the FBI raiding areas of the property that they 'shouldn't have been.'
Donald Trump lamented Wednesday that the FBI blocked his lawyers from the property during the raid at his Palm Beach, Florida residence and suggested that agents may have 'planted' evidence.
The fallout from the raid comes as Trump confirmed on his alternative social media site Tuesday evening that he will be deposed Wednesday in questioning part of the New York attorney general's civil investigation into his family's real estate business.
The New York probe is just one of many the former president is facing, including the one that led to the raid on Monday involving the reported removal of official documents from the White House when he left office last year.
'The FBI and others from the Federal Government would not let anyone, including my lawyers, be anywhere near the areas that were rummaged and otherwise looked at during the raid on Mar-a-Lago,' Trump posted to his Truth Social page on Wednesday morning.
'Everyone was asked to leave the premises, they wanted to be left alone, without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or, hopefully not, 'planting,'' he continued while placing doubt that the raid was conducted properly.
Trump, 76, questioned: 'Why did they STRONGLY insist on having nobody watching them, everybody out? Obama and Clinton were never 'raided,' despite big disputes!'
Christina Bobb, a Trump lawyer, told Real America's Voice on Tuesday that the raid was a 'weird flex' and repeated Trump's suspicions that the RBI might have planted something during the search.
'No, there is no security that something wasn't planted,' the 37-year-old lawyer said. 'I'm not saying that's what they did.'
'This was a completely unnecessary power flex. It was a weird flex,' Bobb added. 'It's quite honestly sad to see what they have done to our country.'
Even though Palm Beach reached a sweltering 91 degrees with high humidity on Monday, Trump's lawyers were left outside near a parking lot and were not allowed inside the air conditioned building where the raid was happening.
The former president was spotted arriving back at his Manhattan residence in Trump Tower on Tuesday night.
The raid on his Florida home the previous day saw investigators ransack his office for several hours – and even included a search through former first lady Melania Trump's wardrobe.
Trump continued to vent his fury on Tuesday at the raid - which is believed to have been carried out to retrieve documents the former president took from the White House when he left.
By law, all presidential correspondence and documentation must be handed over to the National Archives, and since February it has been clear that Trump did not comply. Some documents were returned to the National Archives at the beginning of this year, but apparently not all.
FBI agents were inside the 128-room Florida estate for nine hours on Monday, with 30 agents roaming through the entire 3,000-square-foot private quarters.
The investigators searched the master bedroom, known as the Versailles Room, which Melania Trump renovated two years ago.
Their rummaging through Melania's wardrobe was not explained by the paper.
The agents also searched a separate office and safe, and a locked basement storage room in which 15 cardboard boxes of material from the White House were stored, the paper said.
The Justice Department has not commented on the raid, which analysts said would have needed to be approved at the highest level.
Sources told the Post that Trump's attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, were 'cooperating fully' with federal authorities to arrange the return of the documents, with the process beginning in May 2021 when it was noticed that some records were missing.
In January 2022, some of the documents were returned, and in February this year the news became public.
In early June, four top DOJ officials traveled to Mar-a-Lago to speak with the former president's attorneys about the documents.
The DOJ's counterintelligence and export control section chief Jay Bratt was reportedly among the group who sat down with Trump's lawyers.
Trump's team showed the government officials where Trump was storing documents - in a basement room. Investigators reportedly observed that some of the files there were marked as classified.
At one point the former president himself reportedly stopped in to say hello and 'make small talk' before leaving again, CNN reported.
Days after the investigators' visit, they reportedly sent a letter to Trump's staff asking them to secure the room where they observed the documents being stored.
Aides then padlocked the area, according to CNN.
It is unclear what transpired between June and this week to make the FBI decide to forcibly claim the documents.
But a former FBI agent told DailyMail.com that Monday's raid was likely sparked by new information from an 'informant' and a breakdown in cooperation between the agency and former president.
Retired FBI Special Agent in Charge Michael Tabman, who served the agency for 24 years, said a raid of this level of sensitivity would need to be approved by Attorney General Merrick Garland.
'I think somebody gave them information indicating that these documents are there,' Tabman said, adding two hypothetical 'insider' revelations: 'You have not been told the truth about their existence. You're not getting them unless you come get them.'
'I think there was inside information – call it an informant if you want,' he told DailyMail.com. 'I believe either someone told them something or some other information was stumbled upon, which was kind of conclusive in their minds that they had to go now to get that or they're not getting it.'
Tabman claimed while there was cooperation between Trump and the FBI at one point, the agency may have gotten a sense that the former president and his team were 'telling you what they want to tell you with limited information.'
FBI protocol, according to Tabman, is to move forward with seizing information once they feel that 'voluntarily' obtaining it is no longer viable.
'You know, everything could disappear,' Tabman said. 'You got evidence that you need to get before it disappears or it moves and you can't see it anymore.'
In order to obtain the warrant for a raid, the FBI would need to prove probable cause and conduct the search in a timely manner. Agents can't just 'poke around' someone's home in a case like this, Tabman said.
He also claimed the FBI could have gotten the sense that Trump was just no longer being 'fully cooperative' with the investigation – leading them to see the raid approval.
Tabman said that while it doesn't appear any protocols were broken in conducting the raid, it's still an 'unprecedented' move in the sense that the FBI has never raided a former president's home before.
'I can't think of this having happened to a former president,' Tabman noted.
'I don't see any protocols that were broken in any way,' the retired FBI special agent added. 'They must have obviously had probable cause.'
The ex-president was at Trump Tower in New York City when the FBI raided his Florida estate. Eric Trump told Fox News he informed his father of the raid.
Trump and his allies quickly sought to cast the search as a weaponization of the criminal justice system and a Democratic-driven effort to keep him from winning another term in 2024 - though the Biden White House said it had no prior knowledge and current FBI Director Christopher Wray was appointed by Trump five years ago.
Trump, disclosing the search in a lengthy statement late Monday, asserted that agents had opened a safe at his home, and he described their work as an 'unannounced raid' that he likened to 'prosecutorial misconduct.'
'These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents,' Trump said through his Save America PAC,' he said.
'I stood up to America's bureaucratic corruption, I restored power to the people, and truly delivered for our Country, like we have never seen before.
'The establishment hated it.
'Now, as they watch my endorsed candidates win big victories, and see my dominance in all polls, they are trying to stop me, and the Republican Party, once more.
'The lawlessness, political persecution, and Witch Hunt must be exposed and stopped.'
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Retired FBI Special Agent Michael Tabman told DailyMail.com it's likely an 'informant' revealed information to the FBI that led to the raid of Trump's home on Monday
Justice Department spokesperson Dena Iverson declined to comment on the search, including whether Garland had personally authorized it.
White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said the West Wing first learned of the search from public media reports and the White House had not been briefed in the run-up or aftermath.
'The Justice Department conducts investigations independently and we leave any law enforcement matters to them,' she said. 'We are not involved.'
About two dozen Trump supporters stood in protest at midmorning Tuesday in the Florida summer heat and sporadic light rain on a bridge near the former president's residence. One held a sign reading 'Democrats are Fascists' while others carried flags saying '2020 Was Rigged,' 'Trump 2024' and Biden's name with an obscenity. Some cars honked in support as they passed.
Trump's Vice President Mike Pence, a potential 2024 rival, said Tuesday that he was concerned about the FBI 's raid - despite their 20-month estrangement.
'I share the deep concern of millions of Americans over the unprecedented search of the personal residence of President Trump,' Pence tweeted Tuesday afternoon. 'No former President of the United States has ever been subject to a raid of their personal residence in American history.'
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell echoed Pence, saying: 'Attorney General Garland and the Department of Justice should already have provided answers to the American people and must do so immediately.'
'The FBI director was appointed by Donald Trump,' said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., when asked about GOP allegations that the raid showed the politicization of the Justice Department. She added, 'Facts and truth, facts and law, that's what it's about.'
Trump was meeting late Tuesday at his Bedminster, New Jersey, club with members of the Republican Study Committee, a group headed by Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana that says it is committed to putting forth his priorities in Congress.
The FBI reached out to the Secret Service shortly before serving a warrant, a third person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press. Secret Service agents contacted the Justice Department and were able to validate the warrant before facilitating access to the estate, the person said.
The Justice Department has been investigating the potential mishandling of classified information since the National Archives and Records Administration said it had received from Mar-a-Lago 15 boxes of White House records, including documents containing classified information, earlier this year. The National Archives said Trump should have turned over that material upon leaving office, and it asked the Justice Department to investigate.
Bobb said in her interview with Real America's Voice on Tuesday that investigators said they were 'looking for classified information that they think should not have been removed from the White House, as well as presidential records.'
There are multiple federal laws governing the handling of classified records and sensitive government documents, including statutes that make it a crime to remove such material and retain it at an unauthorized location. Though a search warrant does not necessarily mean criminal charges are near or even expected, federal officials looking to obtain one must first demonstrate to a judge that they have probable cause that a crime occurred.
Two people familiar with the matter, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation, said the search Monday was related to the records probe. Agents were also looking to see if Trump had additional presidential records or any classified documents at the estate.
Trump has previously maintained that presidential records were turned over 'in an ordinary and routine process.' His son Eric said on Fox News on Monday night that he had spent the day with his father and that the search happened because 'the National Archives wanted to corroborate whether or not Donald Trump had any documents in his possession.'
Trump himself, in a social media post Monday night, called the search a 'weaponization of the Justice System, and an attack by Radical Left Democrats who desperately don't want me to run for President in 2024.'
The probe is hardly the only legal headache confronting Trump. A separate investigation related to efforts by him and his allies to undo the results of the 2020 presidential election - which led to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol - has also been intensifying in Washington. Several former White House officials have received grand jury subpoenas.
And a district attorney in Fulton County, Georgia, is investigating whether Trump and his close associates sought to interfere in that state's election, which was won by Democrat Joe Biden.
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 15:18
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mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 15:35
https://jonathanturley.org/2022/08/09/the-whole-enchilada-liberal-figures-wrongly-claim-the-mar-a-lago-raid-could-disqualify-trump-from-future-office/#more-192350
(Jonathan Turley - embedded links at link)
“The Whole Enchilada”: Pundits Wrongly Claim the Mar-a-Lago Raid Could Disqualify Trump from Future Office
The FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago has unleashed a familiar euphoria among critics who have longed for–agents descending upon the President’s residence in a criminal operation. One MSNBC pundit declared that day of the “orange jumpsuit” may finally be at hand while another simply exclaimed “hallelujah.” It was a tad premature since we do not even know if classified material was found and, if so, whether there is a criminal case to be made from such a discovery.
I previously testified in Congress on the earlier seizure of the boxes at Mar-a-Lago under the Presidential Records Act and how criminal prosecutions have been rare under the law. Nevertheless, criminal charges are possible, including under Section 2071 which states that anyone can be prosecuted who “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates or destroys … any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited … in any public office.” That crime, however, requires a showing of not just negligence but that “an act is … done voluntarily and intentionally and with the specific intent to do something the law forbids.”
Notably, even the most serious cases of mishandling classified records have not resulted in major charges. One example is that of former Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger who was found to have secretly stuffed classified material into his pants and socks to remove them from a secure facility. He then hid them in a spot to be retrieved later. It was a flagrant and premeditated violation of federal law and put national security secrets at risk. Yet, Berger was allowed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor and did not have to serve any jail time. Indeed, his security clearance was suspended for only three years.
However, critics were not particularly interested in whether Trump might have some suspended misdemeanor sentence. Rather, even before learning if any evidence of criminal conduct was found, critics turned to the ability to use the charge to disqualify Trump from future office. Section 2071 has excited the imagination of such critics because of a line that states that a convicted party can “be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
That was the enticing possibility highlighted by Marc Elias, Hillary Clinton’s campaign lawyer who was a critical player in pushing the false Russian collusion claims in the Steele dossier. In addition to accusations that he may have lied about the funding of the Steele dossier, Elias has been sanctioned in court for his conduct.
Elias was not alone citing the possible use of a Section 2071 charge to block Trump’s expected presidential run in 2024. Former federal prosecutor Harry Litman even suggested that this could be the actual plan of the Justice Department to end Trump’s political career: “So this could be the whole enchilada in terms of DOJ resolution.”
Consider that culinary-legal analysis for a second. The claim is that the Justice Department may be actively seeking to use a charge to block Trump as the real motivation for this raid and possible charge. There is not a hint of concern over the FBI being used to achieve such a political purpose. That is putting aside the fact that, unless there is evidence of a “willful and unlawful” effort to conceal or retain such material, the FBI could end up an enchilada short of a combination plate for prosecution.
There is also a significant constitutional hurdle facing this latest means of barring Trump from office.
This is not the first time that this disqualification argument has been made and scholars like Seth Tillman have previously raised constitutional objections to it. (Professor Josh Blackmun also has a column on this issue)
The problem is that the law would add a qualification or condition that is not stated in the Constitution. There are constitutional ways to impeach a president or to bar a former president from future office. The mishandling of official records is not one of them. In analogous cases like Powell v. McCormack and U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton, the Supreme Court rejected the authority of states to impose new qualifications for congressional seats under Article I. The same is presumably true under Article II when it comes to the chief executive.
There is ample reason to doubt that the presidency would be deemed barred by statute in this fashion. What would not be in doubt is how such novel claim of disqualification would be received by millions of citizens already skeptical of the motivations of both the Biden Administration and specifically the FBI.
The basis and even the motivation of this raid will become clear in time, including whether there is evidence of willful and unlawful conduct by the former president. However, whatever this raid produces, this “enchilada” will likely be hard for most judges to swallow as a way to keeping Trump off the ballot in 2024.
This column also appeared on Fox.com
T Smith
10th August 2022, 15:38
I'm going to pivot in a different direction , Trump seems very collective thru this . As tactical as he is , do you think that all the stuff they got means absolutely nothing just like all the tax returns and everything else they have been searching for these past 7 years. Do you think he is way ahead of these clowns on a witch hunt? My gut says yes .
Sure, but what's to stop them from planting or "discovering" anything they want? Especially if nothing's there?
There is absolutely nothing legitimate about this government--er, tyranny--whatsoever.
They were watched closely by Eric Trump and the secret service all there as well as private security. Not to forget everything is recorded and documented by the Trump security team! IF the FBI planted anything they'd catch them in the act on their own security you can bet. FACE BOOK is full of posts like this right now from pasters across the country,"last week a young blonde pastor, Julie Green, said an event was coming, for us not to fear the FBI. They will be their own undoing and are about to be no more!" I've seen several posts on other places like Twitter of pasters and revs all saying prophecy and advising their congregation not to fear a big event coming. MY own neighbor told me something similar about a week ago that his rev. at church told the church he saw in a vision something big coming and not to be afraid. I think the FBI is on thin ice.
I appreciate the take, but I'm not so sure... I'm hearing reports this morning that the FBI made Trump's lawyer wait at the end of the driveway, and also Trump himself is saying they kicked everybody out and nobody was allowed to see what they were doing or taking...
In any case, the infamous words of Stalin's secret service keep haunting as I deliberate on this, "...show me the man and I will find you the crime."
mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 15:39
I'm hearing reports this morning that the FBI made Trump's lawyer wait at the end of the driveway, and also Trump himself is saying they kicked everybody out and nobody was allowed to see what they were doing or taking...
as posted above from Daily Mail article
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 16:04
Donald Trump Released 'One Of The Most Powerful Election Ads' Ever Seen:
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ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 16:12
“Biden Knew”: Trump Says FBI Raid Was “Coordinated Attack” (https://www.infowars.com/posts/biden-knew-trump-says-fbi-raid-was-coordinated-attack/)
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source picture (https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1557098262129250306/photo/1)
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source photo (https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1557082069305622529/photo/1)
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 16:22
It is deeply concerning how politicized the DOJ and the FBI have become under President Biden. They cannot continue to be a partisan attack dog for Democrats!
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source (https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1557081025079123968)
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 16:33
Regardless of how you feel about Trump, this FBI raid throws fuel on that fire of distrust and sets a dangerous precedent that reduces our government to being no better than a banana republic, where dictators see federal law enforcement as their own personal goon squad.
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source (https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1557324526748241921)
mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 16:41
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1557389461268332545?s=20&t=nP0KTTX0_EwCyKKMNfavBg
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adding this from a post I saw at
https://paulfurber.net/cia/
(no clue if true but would not surprise me)
7/15/22(Fri)21:03
386951391 (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/386928864/#386951391)
Ray Epps is a CIA Glow ******who worked in Iran and Syria, he has been involved in domestic operations in the U.S. for twenty years. Remember a certain cadre of FBI/CIA folks regularly migrate between the agencies so Epps can hide under the CIA Logo for now. Like Peter Strozk he is a chameleon that has been at the center or many cancerous deep state activities for years. If the deep state does not protect him he takes a lot of them down. He maintains files in several safety deposit boxes across the country that will be placed on the internet in case he goes down. He has the goods on Obama and has threatened to use them. Such as where Obama was born. The deep state will turn on Biden in a heartbeat before turning on Epps.
mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 16:52
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-suspends-journalist-paul-sperry-after-fbi-trump-raid-tweets
(embedded tweets from before suspension at link)
Twitter Suspends Journalist Paul Sperry After FBI Trump-Raid Tweets
BY TYLER DURDEN
WEDNESDAY, AUG 10, 2022 - 12:05 PM
Twitter has suspended journalist Paul Sperry after he made several tweets about this week's FBI raid on Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence, where they spent up to 9 hours rifling through the former president's private office, Melania Trump's wardrobe, and eventually took 12 boxes of material. According to the Wall Street Journal, the records included a letter from former President Barack Obama, and correspondence between Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
The boxes contained some documents subject to a federal law requiring official records to be turned over when a president leaves office as well as some material archives officials described only as “classified national security information,” prompting them to refer the matter to the Justice Department for investigation. -WSJ
Sperry, meanwhile, tweeted several hot-takes on the raid, which appear to have gotten him suspended.
"DEVELOPING: Investigators reportedly met back in June w Trump & his lawyers in Mar-a-Lago storage rm to survey docs & things seemed copasetic but then FBI raids weeks later. Speculation on Hill FBI had PERSONAL stake & searching for classified docs related to its #Spygate scandal."
Sperry also tweeted a list of "conflicted" DOJ officials who were "briefed on the Mar-a-Lago raid", and noted that "CNN is admonishing reporters not to call the FBI raid of Trump's home a "raid," but instead to term it as a "judge-approved search."
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He also tweeted: "Funny, don't remember the FBI raiding Chappaqua or Whitehaven to find the 33,000 potentially classified documents Hillary Clinton deleted," adding "And she was just a former secretary of state, not a former president."
Seems the regime isn't having any of Sperry's hot takes...
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 17:02
The deep state’s next move is to come after Trump supporters and label them “extremists”. The fake news media is declaring war on patriots for criticizing the FBI raid. Don’t give them an excuse to knock down your door.
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source (https://twitter.com/Freedom41020/status/1557392265693347843)
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 17:15
Trump FBI Raid Saga: Phone Seized & Report Says He Had Classified Documents! Mike Yoder Joins:
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Donald Trump 'Clearly Didn't' Hide FBI-Raided Documents On Hunter Biden's Laptop:
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Had Donald Trump hid his supposed classified documents on Hunter Biden's laptop then they'd never see the light of day, Sky News host Cory Bernardi says. "He clearly didn't do that – that's all," he told Sky News host Chris Smith.
mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 17:23
OK file this under extreme conspiracy theory / conspiratainment stuff - as paul furber also kept the BigDickanon archive as well as this one
Paul Furber (https://gab.com/paulf/posts/108795754554009075)
@paulf
16h
·
Inb4source posts a link to a story on ZeroHedge that the GOP has had enough of the politicization of the DOJ. CIA man is in the thread:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/390367467/#390386403
"The CIA planted top secret information at the Trump estate and then alerted the FBI that Trump had taken the material with him when he left office. This goes all the way to the top of both agencies and the White House. They did not realize Trump had the storage areas under surveillance and he has the tapes."
Heh. This is Trump double dog daring the FBI to go ahead and reveal what they supposedly found.
https://paulfurber.net/cia/
BigDickAnon's CIA Fren Posts Archive (of posts from https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/threads - links at posts)
8/10/22(Wed)9:45
390510723 (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/390499735/#390510723)
It was the CIA that planted the evidence it was the FBI who retrieved it. And at the top of theses agencies there are no difference. Strozk rotated between the agencies and he was used were his sick skills could serve the deep state. Strozk did **** them too though he was and is an Iranian spy. And he has a pathetic sexual history. Anyone who would **** Page is a real pig. Check his background it is right there. Trump is going to skull **** the Democrats on this.
8/9/22(Tue)12:49
390386403 (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/390367467/#390386403)
The CIA planted top secret information at the Trump estate and then alerted the FBI that Trump had taken the material with him when he left office. This goes all the way to the top of both agencies and the White House. They did not realize Trump had the storage areas under surveillance and he has the tapes.
8/8/22(Mon)23:53
390314743 (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/390314193/#390314743)
What the CIA planted.
////
a commenter
@paulf Hope this is true, feels Q-ey though. Almost certain Trump would have video security, like 99.999%, but wouldn't the CIA know this also? First, the CIA is not supposed to operate domestically, I heard someplace, so they would use contractors. If they didn't, make me the head of the CIA 'cause those *******are retarded. So, the direct link to the CIA I just debunked. Again, praying this is true, but it doesn't meet basic common sense requirements.
an interesting one from earlier
7/15/22(Fri)21:03
386951391 (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/386928864/#386951391)
Ray Epps is a CIA Glow ******who worked in Iran and Syria, he has been involved in domestic operations in the U.S. for twenty years. Remember a certain cadre of FBI/CIA folks regularly migrate between the agencies so Epps can hide under the CIA Logo for now. Like Peter Strozk he is a chameleon that has been at the center or many cancerous deep state activities for years. If the deep state does not protect him he takes a lot of them down. He maintains files in several safety deposit boxes across the country that will be placed on the internet in case he goes down. He has the goods on Obama and has threatened to use them. Such as where Obama was born. The deep state will turn on Biden in a heartbeat before turning on Epps.
///
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 17:25
'Massive Overreach': FBI Raid Could Be The 'best Thing That Ever Happened' To Trump
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Republican strategist John Jordan says if the FBI’s raid on Donald Trump’s house turns out to be a “massive overreach” by Biden’s Justice Department, it could be the “best thing that ever happened” to the former US president. “If it turns out there's a lot more here, and it’s very serious accusations against President Trump … this would obviously be fatal if not very serious for President Trump, putting him in legal jeopardy,” he told Sky News Australia. “On the other hand, if this is just Federal Records Act and deciding which documents belong in Washington, which belong in Mar-a-Lago. “And this just turns out to be massive overreach by President Biden's Justice Department, this could be the best thing that ever happened to President Trump.”
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 18:31
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mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 18:34
MSM rag Newsweak (sic)
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-informer-told-fbi-what-docs-trump-was-hiding-where-1732283
Exclusive: An Informer Told the FBI What Docs Trump Was Hiding, and Where
BY WILLIAM M. ARKIN ON 8/10/22 AT 10:03 AM EDT
The raid on Mar-a-Lago was based largely on information from an FBI confidential human source, one who was able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents, two senior government officials told Newsweek.
The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI's deliberations and were granted anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters, said the raid of Donald Trump's Florida residence was deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away.
FBI decision-makers in Washington and Miami thought that denying the former president a photo opportunity or a platform from which to grandstand (or to attempt to thwart the raid) would lower the profile of the event, says one of the sources, a senior Justice Department official who is a 30-year veteran of the FBI.
The effort to keep the raid low-key failed: instead, it prompted a furious response from GOP leaders and Trump supporters. "What a spectacular backfire," says the Justice official.
"I know that there is much speculation out there that this is political persecution, but it is really the best and the worst of the bureaucracy in action," the official says. "They wanted to punctuate the fact that this was a routine law enforcement action, stripped of any political overtones, and yet [they] got exactly the opposite."
Both senior government officials say the raid was scheduled with no political motive, the FBI solely intent on recovering highly classified documents that were illegally removed from the White House. Preparations to conduct such an operation began weeks ago, but in planning the date and time, the FBI Miami Field Office and Washington headquarters were focused on the former president's scheduled return to Florida from his residences in New York and New Jersey.
"They were seeking to avoid any media circus," says the second source, a senior intelligence official who was briefed on the investigation and the operation. "So even though everything made sense bureaucratically and the FBI feared that the documents might be destroyed, they also created the very firestorm they sought to avoid, in ignoring the fallout."
On Monday at about 10 a.m. EST, two dozen FBI agents and technicians showed up at Donald Trump's Florida home to execute a search warrant to obtain any government-owned documents that might be in the possession of Trump but are required to be delivered to the Archives under the provisions of the 1978 Presidential Records Act. (In response to the Hillary Clinton email scandal, Trump himself signed a law in 2018 that made it a felony to remove and retain classified documents.)
The act establishes that presidential records are the property of the U.S. government and not a president's private property. Put in place after Watergate to avoid the abuses of the Nixon administration, the law imposes strict penalties for failure to comply. "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined" $2,000, up to three years in prison or "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."
The act, and concerns about the illegal possession of classified "national defense information" are the bases for the search warrant, according to the two sources. The raid had nothing to do with the January 6 investigation or any other alleged wrongdoing by the former president.
The road to the raid began a year-and-a-half ago, when in the transition from the Trump administration to that of President Joe Biden, there were immediate questions raised by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) as to whether the presidential records turned over to the federal agency for historical preservation were complete or not.
In February, Archivist David Ferriero testified before Congress that his agency began talking with Trump's people right after they left office and that the Trump camp had already returned 15 boxes of documents to the Archives. Ferriero said that in those materials, the Archives discovered items "marked as classified national security information," unleashing further inquiries as to whether Trump continued to possess classified material.
The basic outlines of the facts surrounding this timeline have been confirmed by the former president. He has previously said that he was returning any official records to the Archives, labeling any confusion in the matter as "an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act." He also claimed the Archives "did not 'find' anything" in what he had already been returned, suggesting that there was nothing sensitive. He said the documents had inadvertently shipped to Florida during the six-hour transition period in which his belongings were moved.
According to the Justice Department source, the Archives saw things differently, believing that the former White House was stonewalling and continued to possess unauthorized material. Earlier this year, they asked the Justice Department to investigate.
In late April, the source says, a federal grand jury began deliberating whether there was a violation of the Presidential Records Act or whether President Trump unlawfully possessed national security information. Through the grand jury process, the National Archives provided federal prosecutors with copies of the documents received from former President Trump in January 2022. The grand jury concluded that there had been a violation of the law, according to the Justice Department source.
In the past week, the prosecutor in the case and local Assistant U.S. Attorney went to Florida magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart in West Palm Beach to seek approval for the search of Donald Trump's private residence. The affidavit to obtain the search warrant, the intelligence source says, contained abundant and persuasive detail that Trump continued to possess the relevant records in violation of federal law, and that investigators had sufficient information to prove that those records were located at Mar-a-Lago—including the detail that they were contained in a specific safe in a specific room.
"In order for the investigators to convince the Florida judge to approve such an unprecedented raid, the information had to be solid, which the FBI claimed," says the intelligence source.
According to experts familiar with FBI practices, Judge Reinhart reviewed the prosecutor's evidence and asked numerous questions about the sources and the urgency. The judge signed a search warrant allowing the FBI to look for relevant material and the FBI then planned the operation, wanting to conduct the raid while Trump was spending time at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. A Secret Service source who spoke on background said the Secret Service director was given advance warning and was later told the specifics of the raid.
Because the Secret Service is still responsible for protecting the former president, his family, and his property, the FBI had to coordinate with the Secret Service to gain access to the grounds.
A convoy of unmarked black SUVs and a Ryder rental truck filled with about three dozen FBI special agents and technicians entered the gates in the early evening. Heavily armed Secret Service agents were also visibly present at the gates. The Palm Beach Police Department was also present at the scene.
The entire operation was conducted relatively stealthily. No FBI people were seen in their iconic blue windbreakers announcing the presence of the Bureau. And though local law enforcement was present, the Palm Beach Police Department was careful to tweet on Tuesday that it "was not aware of the existence of a search warrant nor did our department assist the FBI in the execution of a search warrant."
According to news reports, some 10-15 boxes of documents were removed from the premises. Donald Trump said in a statement that the FBI opened his personal safe as part of their search. Trump attorney Lindsey Halligan, who was present during the multi-hour search, says that the FBI targeted three rooms—a bedroom, an office and a storage room. That suggests that the FBI knew specifically where to look.
mojo
10th August 2022, 18:51
Another supporting discussion & videos on how the DOJ/FBI are watching the Maga/conservatives after the Trump raid. It appears they are looking for an excuse to come after us....
Starting from 36 minutes....
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ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 18:53
Tuesday LIVE: Mar-A-Lago Raided by Bidens FBI, Desantis Denounces the Raid, etc:
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Donald Trump 2024:
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ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 19:15
The Day After Trump FBI Raid, Something Major Went Down…& It Paints a BIGGER Story!:
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jaybee
10th August 2022, 19:21
.
This whole thing could be BS from start to finish and yet another PSYOP attack on Trump...
But... just for fun :)
Let's say for a minute that he did have classified documents regarding National Security in his possession...
What's the number one thing that people want to know about and want declassified...
Yep.... Roswell..... (followed by the JFK assassination I would think)
Just saying.... IF he did have something and was holding on to it for some reason...
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Trump Discusses Declassifying Roswell, Says He knows 'Very Interesting' Information (0.58 )
/speculation - :sherlock:
mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 20:22
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=1050,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/113/158/479/original/34da7def2efdd35f.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZz_w5gWQAEsrQU?format=jpg&name=900x900
TargeT
10th August 2022, 20:45
I love to see the desperation from the establishment... this seems like it will only help "the rest of us".
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Sue (Ayt)
10th August 2022, 21:06
Karl Denninger weighs in:
And Now, Since 48 Hours Has Expired.... (https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=246579)
It has now developed that the Raid at Mar-A-Largo was supported by an affidavit that positively identified both the presence of documents that were retained or taken by Trump in violation of Federal Law and where they were.
The FBI was specifically interested in Trump's "newer" safe, so presumably that's where they were told the documents were.
Except.... The safe was empty
Trump has refused to release the copy of the warrant served on him, which is his right. But let's take a slanted-eye view of this, which upon learning that very specific information was presented to the Judge immediately came to mind.
Let's presume Trump believed he had a mole in his organization and he thought he knew who it was. And let's remember that the DOJ and FBI did screw him with Russiagate, which they knew, it was developed, was bull**** and yet used it to go after him anyway, and even worse, fed it to Congress as Articles of Impeachment. That was an active scam and nobody was prosecuted for it, while if you did the same thing as a false report to them you could and would go to prison for it.
Further, Trump knew the Archivist was sniffing around because they'd contacted him back in February and he turned over a bunch of stuff. Ok.
So let's put forward the theory that he leaks that he has something particularly juicy, very illegal for him to have retained and its in the safe.
He leaks this to one -- and only one -- person.
The raid happens.
The FBI allegedly tried to order people there to shut off the security cameras. Which they can't legally do, by the way. They can order you not to interfere in a search but they cannot order you to actually do anything other than get out of the way. The order was, if reports are correct, refused.
It is also reported that there was nothing in the safe.
Now maybe -- just maybe -- the FBI found something else. We don't know, but now given the 48 hours and more information, I am laughing my ass off here because if this is what happened then Trump accomplished several things and, in fact, it might just get him a second Presidential term -- like it or not.
He has conclusively identified the mole. If I was that person I'd be a bit nervous. He or she definitely has a rather short employment tenure, and if there's a non-disclosure involved (I bet there is) I hope said person has some good lawyers and the money to pay them, because while you can always try to hide behind the "I was just reporting a crime I believed occurred" you are going to run into a buzzsaw of allegations that your actions were motivated by political animus, your employment was fraudulent in the first instance, etc. You might win that but at ruinous cost. Better check with Swalwell or Pelosi to see if they need someone -- stat.
He has sprayed egg all over the FBI and DOJ's face, including specifically and personally Garland, Wray and more. In fact this might indeed be enough to destroy the existing FBI and DOJ agencies over time. We'll see; I wouldn't take a wager on that one way or another, but most certainly it has (and will continue to) enrage people on both sides of the aisle since the alleged "bounty" was a dry hole.
He has copyright and thus the right to use all of the surveillance video. Here come hundreds of campaign ads with FBI agents rooting through Melania's underwear drawer. You literally couldn't make that crap up if you tried; nobody would believe it, but..... they handed it to him on a silver platter and every second of it is nuclear toxic waste politically for the FBI, DOJ and the Democrat Party.
Am I right about this? Don't know.
But suddenly its a very, very valid hypothesis -- isn't it?
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Btw: In case you didn't already know, as I've said repeatedly over the years: Politics is and always has been a blood sport. If you're not prepared to take it on at that level you have no business getting involved in it.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=246579
mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 21:26
ZH coverage of the newsweek mole story
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trumps-reveal-how-fbi-raid-went-down-former-prez-suggests-planted-evidence
FBI Had Mole Inside Mar-A-Lago: Report
Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
WEDNESDAY, AUG 10, 2022 - 05:01 PM
Update (1700ET): According to Newsweek, the FBI had a 'confidential human source' (a mole) inside Mar-a-Lago, who was "able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents."
(rest at link)
TargeT
10th August 2022, 21:33
ZH coverage of the newsweek mole story
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trumps-reveal-how-fbi-raid-went-down-former-prez-suggests-planted-evidence
FBI Had Mole Inside Mar-A-Lago: Report
Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
WEDNESDAY, AUG 10, 2022 - 05:01 PM
Update (1700ET): According to Newsweek, the FBI had a 'confidential human source' (a mole) inside Mar-a-Lago, who was "able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents."
(rest at link)
sounds like a great precursor to some sort of "we found stuff, but it's classified so we can't show you anything; just trust us" type of statement...
I think this is turning out so great though... If this is anything like when "they got his tax documents"... we are going to have some great meme's from the media reactions....
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norman
10th August 2022, 22:24
sounds like a great precursor to some sort of "we found stuff ". . .
Bingo !
plus . . The battle to worry about is the one coming over the hill straight at us next, not the last several battles.
In a US centric way, they need a game changer more than we do. On a global scale, we need a game changer more than they do.
Figure that lot out.
Satori
10th August 2022, 22:51
MSM rag Newsweak (sic)
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-informer-told-fbi-what-docs-trump-was-hiding-where-1732283
Exclusive: An Informer Told the FBI What Docs Trump Was Hiding, and Where
BY WILLIAM M. ARKIN ON 8/10/22 AT 10:03 AM EDT
The raid on Mar-a-Lago was based largely on information from an FBI confidential human source, one who was able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents, two senior government officials told Newsweek.
The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI's deliberations and were granted anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters, said the raid of Donald Trump's Florida residence was deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away.
FBI decision-makers in Washington and Miami thought that denying the former president a photo opportunity or a platform from which to grandstand (or to attempt to thwart the raid) would lower the profile of the event, says one of the sources, a senior Justice Department official who is a 30-year veteran of the FBI.
The effort to keep the raid low-key failed: instead, it prompted a furious response from GOP leaders and Trump supporters. "What a spectacular backfire," says the Justice official.
"I know that there is much speculation out there that this is political persecution, but it is really the best and the worst of the bureaucracy in action," the official says. "They wanted to punctuate the fact that this was a routine law enforcement action, stripped of any political overtones, and yet [they] got exactly the opposite."
Both senior government officials say the raid was scheduled with no political motive, the FBI solely intent on recovering highly classified documents that were illegally removed from the White House. Preparations to conduct such an operation began weeks ago, but in planning the date and time, the FBI Miami Field Office and Washington headquarters were focused on the former president's scheduled return to Florida from his residences in New York and New Jersey.
"They were seeking to avoid any media circus," says the second source, a senior intelligence official who was briefed on the investigation and the operation. "So even though everything made sense bureaucratically and the FBI feared that the documents might be destroyed, they also created the very firestorm they sought to avoid, in ignoring the fallout."
On Monday at about 10 a.m. EST, two dozen FBI agents and technicians showed up at Donald Trump's Florida home to execute a search warrant to obtain any government-owned documents that might be in the possession of Trump but are required to be delivered to the Archives under the provisions of the 1978 Presidential Records Act. (In response to the Hillary Clinton email scandal, Trump himself signed a law in 2018 that made it a felony to remove and retain classified documents.)
The act establishes that presidential records are the property of the U.S. government and not a president's private property. Put in place after Watergate to avoid the abuses of the Nixon administration, the law imposes strict penalties for failure to comply. "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined" $2,000, up to three years in prison or "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."
The act, and concerns about the illegal possession of classified "national defense information" are the bases for the search warrant, according to the two sources. The raid had nothing to do with the January 6 investigation or any other alleged wrongdoing by the former president.
The road to the raid began a year-and-a-half ago, when in the transition from the Trump administration to that of President Joe Biden, there were immediate questions raised by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) as to whether the presidential records turned over to the federal agency for historical preservation were complete or not.
In February, Archivist David Ferriero testified before Congress that his agency began talking with Trump's people right after they left office and that the Trump camp had already returned 15 boxes of documents to the Archives. Ferriero said that in those materials, the Archives discovered items "marked as classified national security information," unleashing further inquiries as to whether Trump continued to possess classified material.
The basic outlines of the facts surrounding this timeline have been confirmed by the former president. He has previously said that he was returning any official records to the Archives, labeling any confusion in the matter as "an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act." He also claimed the Archives "did not 'find' anything" in what he had already been returned, suggesting that there was nothing sensitive. He said the documents had inadvertently shipped to Florida during the six-hour transition period in which his belongings were moved.
According to the Justice Department source, the Archives saw things differently, believing that the former White House was stonewalling and continued to possess unauthorized material. Earlier this year, they asked the Justice Department to investigate.
In late April, the source says, a federal grand jury began deliberating whether there was a violation of the Presidential Records Act or whether President Trump unlawfully possessed national security information. Through the grand jury process, the National Archives provided federal prosecutors with copies of the documents received from former President Trump in January 2022. The grand jury concluded that there had been a violation of the law, according to the Justice Department source.
In the past week, the prosecutor in the case and local Assistant U.S. Attorney went to Florida magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart in West Palm Beach to seek approval for the search of Donald Trump's private residence. The affidavit to obtain the search warrant, the intelligence source says, contained abundant and persuasive detail that Trump continued to possess the relevant records in violation of federal law, and that investigators had sufficient information to prove that those records were located at Mar-a-Lago—including the detail that they were contained in a specific safe in a specific room.
"In order for the investigators to convince the Florida judge to approve such an unprecedented raid, the information had to be solid, which the FBI claimed," says the intelligence source.
According to experts familiar with FBI practices, Judge Reinhart reviewed the prosecutor's evidence and asked numerous questions about the sources and the urgency. The judge signed a search warrant allowing the FBI to look for relevant material and the FBI then planned the operation, wanting to conduct the raid while Trump was spending time at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. A Secret Service source who spoke on background said the Secret Service director was given advance warning and was later told the specifics of the raid.
Because the Secret Service is still responsible for protecting the former president, his family, and his property, the FBI had to coordinate with the Secret Service to gain access to the grounds.
A convoy of unmarked black SUVs and a Ryder rental truck filled with about three dozen FBI special agents and technicians entered the gates in the early evening. Heavily armed Secret Service agents were also visibly present at the gates. The Palm Beach Police Department was also present at the scene.
The entire operation was conducted relatively stealthily. No FBI people were seen in their iconic blue windbreakers announcing the presence of the Bureau. And though local law enforcement was present, the Palm Beach Police Department was careful to tweet on Tuesday that it "was not aware of the existence of a search warrant nor did our department assist the FBI in the execution of a search warrant."
According to news reports, some 10-15 boxes of documents were removed from the premises. Donald Trump said in a statement that the FBI opened his personal safe as part of their search. Trump attorney Lindsey Halligan, who was present during the multi-hour search, says that the FBI targeted three rooms—a bedroom, an office and a storage room. That suggests that the FBI knew specifically where to look.
More spin intended to put the administrative state’s traitorous and unconstitutional conduct in a favorable light to try to persuade the public that these criminals acted pursuant to or under color of law.
Make no mistake about it and don’t be fooled. This was a lawless attack on not just the 45th president of the USA, but the people of the USA.
Notice, too, that these are chicken **** anonymous sources, ostensibly. If you have truth behind you, you put your name and face on what you say and do. Liars and criminals hide behind anonymity.
Don’t fall for this propaganda piece. Nor any other lame-stream propaganda on this or any other topic.
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 22:53
EXPOSED: The far-left plan to CREATE conservative 'RADICALS':
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Donald Trump is the first former president to ever be under THIS much scrutiny AFTER leaving office. So, why does the far-left hate him so much? Why do they continue to use every tool — like an FBI raid — at their disposal to destroy the former Commander-in-Chief? In this clip, Glenn theorizes why he believes the far-left is going to such great lengths. And it’s NOT about their hatred for President Trump, he says. Rather, it’s about their ultimate endgame: To CREATE right-wing ‘radicals’ who they can use to demonize ALL conservatives for decades to come. But there is one way America can survive such a plan. Glenn explains in this clip…
Bill Ryan
10th August 2022, 23:25
Dave Paulides. He's a former police officer, and knows all about search warrants.
He's very very empassioned, and I don't think I've ever seen him this emphatic.
The Search Warrant at Mar-A-Lago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKPUotXRk_Y
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 23:42
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mountain_jim
10th August 2022, 23:44
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/huge-development-report-shows-fbi-personal-stake-mar-lago-raid-agents-spygate-documents-trump-holding-likely-indicted-fbi/
(more tweet screens and links at link)
HUGE DEVELOPMENT: Report Alleges FBI “Had Personal Stake” in Mar-a-Lago Raid – Agents Were After Spygate Documents Trump Was Holding That Likely Implicated FBI
By Jim Hoft
Published August 10, 2022 at 12:55pm
New details on Mar-a-Lago raid come to light
As reported earlier today — President Trump declassified a binder on January 19th, 2021 that contains hundreds of pages about the Crossfire Hurricane scandal. It contains damaging information about the corrupt actors involved with our government. Two different DOJ Attorney General’s have defied President Trump’s direct lawful order to publish the binder in the Federal Register. It’s been 19 months as the DOJ defies the order, and every FOIA request to make it public. Can we now raid the homes of acting AG Monty Wilkinson, and Merrick Garland?
The DOJ had already made redactions to protect sources & methods, and returned the binder back to the White House. But the corrupt FBI also wanted to hide names. So at the last minute, the DOJ demanded the binder comply with the 1974 Privacy Act. The Act requires any “agency” that releases records to also hide personal or identifiable name information. The DOJ knew this Act doesn’t apply to the White House, it was a stall tactic. The courts decided this 22 years ago that the Privacy Act was based around FOIA requests, and the White House is not an agency.
Hours before Trump left office on January 20th, Chief of Staff Mark Meadows gave the binder back to the DOJ, along with this memo. He asked the DOJ to make any Privacy Act redactions “out of an abundance of caution”. In the memo he asks they expeditiously release the binder when finished. Meadows foolishly expected this would take 3-4 days. It’s been 19 months and still not released. Just the News recently obtained the Meadows memo from the National Archives, who also denied having a copy of the declassified binder.
Meadows admits in interviews various agency’s often stalled or defied Trump’s orders. Meadows knew better than to rely on the DOJ to release this damaging binder after they left the White House. He should have released the binder to the public himself. But in doing so, there was a chance he would become a target of the DOJ and FBI. The memorandum below is what Mr. Meadows sent to the DOJ Attorney General on January 20th, 2021.
New details on Monday’s raid of Mar-a-Lago may offer an explanation on what the FBI was looking for and why the FBI has not released the Spygate documents as they were ordered to when President Trump left office.
Investigative reporter Paul Sperry had his Twitter account taken down for the second time on Monday.
Sperry had his first Twitter account removed after he identified Eric Ciaramella as the leaker in the first Trump impeachment trial.
Sperry had his second account taken down on Monday after he tweeted about the Mar-a-Lago raid and what the FBI was looking for.
According to Paul Sperry, the FBI agents spent 9 hours looking for details President Trump took with him on the Crossfire Hurricane FBI spying scandal.
The FBI and DOJ cannot let the American public know the truth of their criminal acts and attempted coup of President Trump. So they raided his home looking for the documents that may indict the organization.
Twitter has suspended journalist Paul Sperry after he made several tweets about this week’s FBI raid on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence, where they spent up to 9 hours rifling through the former president’s private office, Melania Trump’s wardrobe, and eventually took 12 boxes of material…
Sperry: “DEVELOPING: Investigators reportedly met back in June w Trump & his lawyers in Mar-a-Lago storage rm to survey docs & things seemed copasetic but then FBI raids weeks later. Speculation on Hill FBI had PERSONAL stake & searching for classified docs related to its #Spygate scandal.”
Sperry also tweeted a list of “conflicted” DOJ officials who were “briefed on the Mar-a-Lago raid”, and noted that “CNN is admonishing reporters not to call the FBI raid of Trump’s home a “raid,” but instead to term it as a “judge-approved search.”
He also tweeted: “Funny, don’t remember the FBI raiding Chappaqua or Whitehaven to find the 33,000 potentially classified documents Hillary Clinton deleted,” adding “And she was just a former secretary of state, not a former president.”
It appears there is more to the Mar-a-Lago raid than they are disclosing.
And it could be even more sinister than we originally suspected.
and now a related meme...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ1Gk-qXgAIIqZr?format=jpg&name=small
ExomatrixTV
10th August 2022, 23:47
This Is Approaching the Level of a Constitutional Crisis:
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Ratszinger
10th August 2022, 23:49
They have it all! Trump has it all as we all have heard time and time again! This has to be a set up by Trump to finally nail them to the wall with their own dirt! He likely has copies of whatever they took and perhaps back ups of back ups! I am betting Trump and his circle were ready for this and the FBI, like everyone else that has tried to take him down will now suffer for it.
Satori
11th August 2022, 00:04
Dave Paulides. (He's a former police officer. He knows all about search warrants.)
The Search Warrant at Mar-A-Lago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKPUotXRk_Y
Paulides is spot on to point out the function and importance of the affidavit(s) tendered in support of the search warrant, as well as the role and importance of the judge to act as a gatekeeper and protector of liberty and constitutionally recognized freedoms.
A judge must not, ever, under any circumstances, rubber stamp a request for an arrest or search warrant. A judge is duty-bound to exercise independent judgement and determine, independently of representations of the law enforcement agency involved, here the FBI, that there is a factual and legal reasonable basis, and probable cause, to support the affidavit. A warrant must be approved, if at all, only after the gatekeeper function is genuinely fulfilled. If the affidavit does not provide the requisite legal and factual basis for the warrant, the warrant must be denied.
The search warrant against Trump was politically motivated, driven by the desperate urgency of the traitorous criminals behind it, to protect their sorry asses from detection, arrest, prosecution and the consequences they will face commensurate with their crimes.
The penalty must fit the crime. But they want to avoid any penalty at all and instead project their crimes on to We The People and Trump. Hence, we see one unconstitutional, criminal act after another, while all the while they point the finger at the innocent.
Remember, when you point a finger there are three more pointing back at you.
Ps. What we need to see ASAP is the affidavit(s) in support of the warrant, not the warrant alone. And then, we must drill down on the veracity, or not, of the factual and legal basis for the warrant.
ExomatrixTV
11th August 2022, 00:50
Megyn Kelly Reacts to the FBI Raiding Trump's Mar-a-Lago House:
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Political commentator Megyn Kelly launched into an incisive tirade over the FBI’s naked political persecution of former President Donald Trump with their pre-dawn raid of his Mar-a-Lago estate.
“The Megyn Kelly Show” host did not buy the FBI’s official story that they obtained a search warrant for Trump’s Palm Beach resort on Monday to retrieve classified documents wanted by the National Archives and Records Administration.
“My response to that is: BULLSHxT! BULLSHxT. There is no way that’s what they were searching for. There’s no way,” Kelly exclaimed.
“This is about January 6. If you believe this is about classified documents having to do with bull**** Trump took with him when he left office, your head is in the sky.”
Kelly explained that the Democrats’ past efforts to derail Trump’s 2016 campaign, his presidency, and beyond have all failed as his political power grows, and so they’re resorting to desperate measures.
Kelly continued:
This is about January 6 and the never-ending desire to get Trump on something. They don’t want him to run for election again. They’re mad he did not get convicted on the first or the second impeachment. They’re mad that he did not get pursued criminally by the New York DA. They’re mad that RussiaGate fell apart. And they are mad that he’s leading in the polls, he’s crushing [Florida Governor Ron] DeSantis, his candidates of choice all made it into office – virtually all of them last week – and they’re prepared to unleash hell.
Kelly also said that Attorney General Merrick Garland has been “very clearly willing” to politically target Trump and his top advisers over the last several weeks.
“The Democrats play dirty. And Merrick Garland is very clearly willing to go along with that. He’s been moving in the concentric circles toward Donald Trump over the past several weeks, going after his top advisers, subpoenaing them,” she said. “We’ve seen close Trump advisers in handcuffs dragged away as if they’re mobsters.”
“This is getting really alarming and the American public deserves answers,” she concluded.
Watch Megyn Kelly’s full show breaking it all down:
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norman
11th August 2022, 01:26
Dave Paulides. He's a former police officer, and knows all about search warrants.
He's very very empassioned, and I don't think I've ever seen him this emphatic.
The Search Warrant at Mar-A-Lago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKPUotXRk_Y
Even otherwise very smart guys like him make we want to scream when they wag a their finger of blame at the 'left'.
Really, he knows better than that, but he can't help himself.
That is a weakness we can no longer afford, on the battle field.
TargeT
11th August 2022, 01:56
They have it all! Trump has it all as we all have heard time and time again! This has to be a set up by Trump to finally nail them to the wall with their own dirt! He likely has copies of whatever they took and perhaps back ups of back ups! I am betting Trump and his circle were ready for this and the FBI, like everyone else that has tried to take him down will now suffer for it.
or... its Ron paul 2.0................
how long did he seem like that guy, 30 years?
wag a their finger of blame at the 'left'.
Dichotomy is, well; basically addictive.
It's a form of tribalism and we basically don't have many good outlets for that drive currently.
it's at the same time fascinating and disturbing.
but what can be done? I've tried for decades, at this point; I dunno... eat popcorn and watch the show? (that's my plan)
:popcorn:
mountain_jim
11th August 2022, 02:56
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/doj-ordered-respond-requests-unseal-fbi-trump-raid-warrant
DOJ ordered to respond after requests to unseal FBI's Trump raid warrant
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter & Andrew Kerr, Investigative Reporter | | August 10, 2022 04:00 PM
The Department of Justice must respond to motions to unseal the warrant behind the FBI raid of former President Donald Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago, the magistrate judge who approved the unprecedented search ordered Thursday.
Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, who is believed to have signed the still-sealed FBI warrant approving the bureau’s Trump raid, said the DOJ must now “file a Response to the Motion to Unseal” following efforts by Albany-based news outlet the Times Union and the conservative advocacy group Judicial Watch requesting the DOJ make the warrant public.
Reinhart said the DOJ’s response may be filed “ex parte and under seal as necessary to avoid disclosing matters already under seal,” meaning that the full response may be secret but that “the Government shall file a redacted Response in the public record” too.
PRESSURE BUILDS ON TRUMP AND BIDEN TO RELEASE MAR-A-LAGO SEARCH WARRANT (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/pressure-builds-mar-a-lago-search-warrant)
The Times Union lawyer wrote that FBI agents “applied for and received a search warrant in connection with an investigation that involved the residence of Donald J. Trump in Palm Beach” and that “I am filing this request seeking the unsealing request of these court records.”
Judicial Watch wrote that it is “investigating the potential politicization” of the FBI and the DOJ and whether they are “abusing their law enforcement powers to harass a likely future political opponent of President Biden” and that “if the Court were to unseal the materials, Judicial Watch would obtain the materials, analyze them, and make them available to the public.”
Reinhart said that the “Government may file a consolidated Response to all Motions to Seal” and that the DOJ will have until Monday to respond.
The magistrate judge's name came under considerable scrutiny Tuesday after multiple news outlets reported that he was the one who signed off on the FBI's raid of Mar-a-Lago. In particular, his connection to notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was highlighted.
Reinhart left his job as an assistant U.S. attorney on Jan. 1, 2008. The next day, he began representing some of Epstein's employees. He was accused in a lawsuit filed by two of Epstein's victims of leaving the DOJ to provide Epstein inside information, allegations Reinhart denied, the Miami Herald reported in 2018.
The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida removed Reinhart's page from its website on Tuesday afternoon after his connection to Epstein went viral on social media.
"Access denied," Reinhart's page now reads. "You are not authorized to access this page."
Reinhart was appointed by district judges to his current position as a magistrate judge in 2018.
The judge recused himself from a civil lawsuit involving Trump and his 2016 presidential opponent, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Trump sued Clinton, the Democratic National Committee, and numerous political entities and figures in March for promoting stories that alleged Trump was colluding with Russia during the 2016 election.
Reinhart recused himself from the case on June 22, citing a portion of the U.S. code that requires any magistrate judges to disqualify themselves if they have a "personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding."
Reinhart did not specify in his recusal if the party he had a personal bias or prejudice toward was Trump, Clinton, or one or more of the dozens of other defendants in the lawsuit.
(more at link)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-orders-doj-respond-requests-unseal-fbis-trump-warrant
Judge Orders DOJ To Respond To Requests To Unseal FBI’s Trump Warrant
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BY TYLER DURDEN
WEDNESDAY, AUG 10, 2022 - 08:20 PM
Authored by Jack Phillips via The Epoch Times
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ANY redactions in the response indicate criminal and political motivation. We also need to see unredacted documents used in the Jan 6 "investigation" and show trial.
Bill Ryan
11th August 2022, 09:10
A clear and powerful statement from Lindsey Halligan, Trump's attorney, published a couple of hours ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrNrQviSTUM
ExomatrixTV
11th August 2022, 09:44
FBI Corruption EVERYWHERE! From Trump to Whitmer:
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/r/c/9/j/rc9jf.gaa.rec.mp4
source (https://rumble.com/v1fhw9d-fbi-corruption-everywhere-from-trump-to-whitmer-viva-frei-live.html)
mountain_jim
11th August 2022, 11:54
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/trump-got-grand-jury-subpoena-spring-voluntarily-cooperated-home
Questions grow about Trump raid after revelation of grand jury subpoena, extensive cooperation
Trump got spring grand jury subpoena, gathered documents, turned them over and allowed agents to search storage locker the FBI later raided.
Two months before his Florida home was raided by the FBI, former President Donald Trump secretly received a grand jury subpoena for classified documents belonging to the National Archives, and voluntarily cooperated by turning over responsive evidence, surrendering security surveillance footage and allowing federal agents and a senior Justice Department lawyer to tour his private storage locker, according to a half dozen people familiar with the incident.
While the cooperation was mostly arranged by his lawyers, Trump personally surprised the DOJ National Security Division prosecutor and three FBI agents who came to his Mar-a-Lago compound on June 3, greeting them as they came to pick up a small number of documents compliant with the subpoena, the sources told Just the News, speaking only on condition of anonymity because the visit was covered by grand jury secrecy.
The subpoena requested any remaining documents Trump possessed with any classification markings, even if they involved photos of foreign leaders, correspondence or mementos from his presidency.
Secret Service agents were also present and facilitated the visit, officials said.
Trump signaled his full cooperation, telling the agents and prosecutor, "Look, whatever you need let us know," according to two eyewitnesses. The federal team was surprised by the president's invitation and asked for an immediate favor: to see the 6-foot-by-10-foot storage locker where his clothes, shoes, documents and mementos from his presidency were stored at the compound.
Given Trump's instruction, the president's lawyers complied and allowed the search by the FBI before the entourage left cordially. Five days later, DOJ officials sent a letter to Trump's lawyers asking them to secure the storage locker with more than the lock they had seen. The Secret Service installed a more robust security lock to comply.
Around the same time, the Trump Organization, which owns Mar-a-Lago, received a request for surveillance video footage covering the locker and volunteered the footage to federal authorities, sources disclosed.
The disclosure Wednesday to Just the News raised immediate new questions in legal and congressional circles about the necessity for the subsequent raid, including whether the judge who approved the warrant new of the earlier cooperation.
“The more we learn, the more confusing this gets,” George Washington University Law professor Jonathan Turley told Fox News program Hannity. “….Did they relay this history to the magistrate? That, according to these sources, that the president had cooperated.
”I mean, the idea that he was subject to a subpoena, complied with a subpoena, didn't challenge it, voluntarily showed the storage room to the agents, followed their advice, secured it to meet their demands. All of that is hardly a basis for saying now we need to send in 40 FBI agents on a on a raid,” he added. “I mean, if the subpoena worked the first time, then presumably a second subpoena would work the second time if there were remaining documents.”
Rep. Claudia Tenney, R-N.Y., told Just the News that Trump mentioned to her Tuesday night the prior cooperation, and that she viewed the raid as an effort at nullifying his future run for the presidency in 2024 if he chooses.
“Look, this is exactly what people, the public is seeing: a two-tiered justice system. This is impeachment 4,” she said, citing Trump‘s prior two impeachments and the January 6 hearings that preceded the raid.
The flurry of cooperation in June came months after Trump had already returned about 15 boxes of documents, many of them classified, at the request of the National Archives. Government officials have said the documents were mistakenly boxed up by the General Services Administration along with Trump's personal possessions from the White House and shipped to Mar-a -Lago.
After the subpoena was delivered in late May, federal authorities said they suspected there were more classified materials still left at Mar-a-Lago, and arranged the June 3 visit.
After mid-June, the government had no other official contacts with the president's lawyers until agents showed up unannounced on Monday and executed the search warrant, ousting the president's lawyers and staff and spending nine hours collecting evidence. Sources told Just the News they collected about 12 boxes of evidence.
U.S. officials who confirmed the June 3 voluntary visit and subpoena compliance, refused to say whether U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart was apprised of the full extent of Trump's compliance when he was asked to sign the unprecedented search warrant last Friday.
The FBI then waited three days after getting the judge's approval before executing the warrant, one of many oddities in the timetable.
Some officials said the extra time was used to assemble a team to raid Mar-a-Lago in the most incognito manner so the public wouldn't be alerted and while the former president was out of town.
The officials told Just the News the search warrant was sought after the FBI obtained some witness information and other evidence suggesting some classified documents may have still remained on the property after June, stored in locations such as a private safe Trump had in his residence, and that some of the storage locations may have been accessed in 2022.
The new revelations came the same day that new questions arose about Reinhart, the judge in the case.
Just the News obtained a court document (https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/judge-who-authorized-mar-o-lago-search-previously-recused-self)showing that Reinhart — just six weeks before signing the warrant — recused himself from Trump's lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and other Democrats in the Russia collusion scandal, citing concerns he couldn't be impartial.
Reinhart, appointed in 2018 as a federal magistrate in West Palm Beach, Fla., filed the recusal document on June 22, a few weeks after presiding over the start of the civil litigation.
"The undersigned Magistrate Judge, to whom the above-styled cause has been assigned, hereby recuses himself and refers the case to the Clerk of Court for reassignment pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 455," Reinhart wrote in his order of recusal in the Trump v. Clinton case.
You can read the document here:
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show_temp (7).pdf (https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-08/show_temp%20%287%29.pdf)
The statute that the magistrate cited (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/455) for his recusal states in part that a judge "shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned" and then describes the various circumstances that could trigger such concerns.
They include "a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts" or prior work as a lawyer for a party involved in the case.
Reinhart's order did not specify the conflict or source of the concern prompting his recusal.
Trump's lawsuit accuses Clinton, Democrat allies and current and former government officials of engaging in a racketeering conspiracy to falsely portray Trump as colluding with Russia during the 2016 election. The sweeping nature of the suit involves numerous parties and public figures.
The recusal filing emerges as numerous media reports have surfaced about the magistrate's prior work, including donations before he was judge to President Barack Obama and Jeb Bush and work for figures associated with the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
The Daily Wire also raised questions about Reinhart's impartiality toward Trump, reporting that in a 2017 Facebook social post — a year before he was named a magistrate — he challenged the 45th president's moral character after Trump attacked the late Rep. John Lewis, a civil rights icon.
"I generally ignore the President-elect's tweets, but not this one," Reinhart posted, according to the Daily Wire. "John Lewis arguably has done more to 'make America great' than any living citizen. Last August, I took my son to the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma so he could understand the kind of courage and sacrifice required to live in a democratic society. John Lewis embodies that spirit. Although I've never met him, he is one of my heroes.
"Thank you, Robert Reich, for saying what many of us feel, 'John Lewis is the conscience of America. Donald Trump doesn't have the moral stature to kiss John Lewis's feet.'
"Or, as Joseph Welch said to Joseph McCarthy, 'At long last, have you left no sense of decency?'"
TomKat
11th August 2022, 13:34
New bumper sticker:
Make America America Again
mountain_jim
11th August 2022, 13:47
quality minute and a half.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557720702186389504?s=20&t=gHmA0CEc3Z2wLpsXCzfo3g
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mojo
11th August 2022, 13:58
FBI Director Christopher Wray 'concerned' about threats after unprecedented Mar-a-Lago search
Headline Fox News....
It truly seems they wanted this narrative all along. They want to come after us.
T Smith
11th August 2022, 14:30
New bumper sticker:
Make America America Again
Maybe a slight twist?
Make Amerika America Again? :)
ExomatrixTV
11th August 2022, 15:57
Trump FBI Raid Saga: Phone Seized & Report Says He Had Classified Documents!:
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ExomatrixTV
11th August 2022, 16:02
FBI Raid : Does Trump Have Epstein's Client List?:
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mountain_jim
11th August 2022, 16:26
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ExomatrixTV
11th August 2022, 16:29
‘Disturbing’ To See America ‘Going Down The Drain’:
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thepainterdoug
11th August 2022, 18:03
JOHN/
Nigel on Trump, Excellent. sums it up.
mountain_jim
11th August 2022, 19:06
live at 3:05 EDT (and over at 3:09 :) )
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-ag-merrick-garland-makes-statement-following-trump-raid
Watch Live (Eventually): AG Merrick Garland Makes Statement Following Trump Raid
Tyler Durden's Photo
BY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, AUG 11, 2022 - 02:25 PM
US Attorney General Merrick Garland will make a statement to the media at 2:30 pm ET on Thursday, following the FBI's Monday raid on Mar-a-Lago.
Garland has found himself in the crosshairs of conservatives, who claim that the establishment has once again 'weaponized' the DOJ against Donald Trump.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557806279195754496?s=20&t=lFYyaF33FNM1mEVEkN5mXQ
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557805648338886656?s=20&t=BYnb1zpmaYAAxUTb-iBp_Q
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557804201350238209?s=20&t=BYnb1zpmaYAAxUTb-iBp_Q
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memes..
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https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet7/status/1557788603119443969?s=20&t=1aN0mP6gX_84ZwnkI1JiGw
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TargeT
11th August 2022, 22:42
Oh boy... this just keeps getting better.
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mountain_jim
12th August 2022, 00:37
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557820255917035520?s=20&t=NWvFcgeKmSRzCcQBUo2CBg
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557869202270191617?s=20&t=3QTbuVOItgOrbWXfPgJxGQ
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https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1557815364137934848?s=20&t=NWvFcgeKmSRzCcQBUo2CBg
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norman
12th August 2022, 00:59
The preparations they are making seem to be part of something we haven't seen the complete scheme of yet. Being a flyover patriot isn't enough for the package they seem to be prepping.
There's another ingredient, another boot to drop.
My "money" is on that boot drop being a Putin/nuke related spin.
See something, say something.
I hear the MSM over there are pushing 1950s style duck and cover public service announcements ?
Satori
12th August 2022, 02:25
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557820255917035520?s=20&t=NWvFcgeKmSRzCcQBUo2CBg
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1557869202270191617?s=20&t=3QTbuVOItgOrbWXfPgJxGQ
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https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1557815364137934848?s=20&t=NWvFcgeKmSRzCcQBUo2CBg
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If I was a “social media influencer”, which I am not, and I had the attention of say, 1,000,000 followers, which I do not, and influenced many of them to take action, which I have not, and they did in fact set out to take action, which they have not, what good would it do the criminals to do a threat assessment of my influence?
Wouldn’t they need to identify and intercept the actual inflection points that I influence? Isn’t that like trying to grasp jello with your fingers?
Just asking.
mojo
12th August 2022, 02:28
They can't hide the non-verbal cues and if your good like the body language ghost you can spot them...
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norman
12th August 2022, 08:23
Dick Cheney attacks Donald Trump in advertisement
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waw, you'd think trump was running for election or something.
Dark Journalist & Dr. Joseph Farrell Mar-A-Lago McGuffin Real UFO File
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mountain_jim
12th August 2022, 12:16
From General Flynn
https://www.americasfuture.net/stand-firm-against-the-media-faction/
Stand Firm Against The Media Faction
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In the last several entries in our ongoing series on the media, we’ve described some of the problems troubling our public sphere. In particular, the media’s unholy alliance with big tech and big government has led to a proliferation of outright lies to serve political ends.
Last week, we saw evidence in real time that these issues threaten the survival of the republic.
Before dawn on Monday, August 8, federal law enforcement agents raided the home of the former president of the United States. Rather than question the wisdom, never mind legality, of this action, the media celebrated it. The US press not only encouraged this un-American and deeply dangerous assault on the leader of the opposition party, it also further aggravated the country’s political, as well as cultural and economic divides.
The Founding Fathers warned against factionalism. Recognizing that it is the nature of man to oppose other men and to seek to exert power over their rivals, they established a government designed with layers of checks and balances. Even if the system would not always produce affection and respect among rivals, at least it would prevent one party from dominating the other. What we are seeing now is what happens when the press tips the scales.
As we explained previously, the job of the media is modest but important — to inform the freeborn citizens of our Constitutional Republic. What we have instead is a media conspiring with one faction to undo the other, thereby leading the country into conflict.
The action this week appears intended to incite the opposition party to take reckless actions. Don’t take the bait. We at America’s Future urge all to maintain the calm and steady demeanor that has marked our nation’s champions from the time this land was first settled.
Make no mistake, more difficult times lay ahead. We will be tested, and those trials we endure will forge our steely will. If you’ve envied the hard affairs of our ancestors, the travails they endured to build our great country, now is the time for us to seize the chance to show that we, too, are worthy. Like them, we are fighting for liberty. We are fighting for our country.
We are living in historic times. And we are blessed to be living at such a moment. Our ancestors are watching us from beyond and our children and children’s children will speak of our resilience and determination for generations to come. Let us thank our Creator we were made Americans. May God always bless America.
Across this country, Americans are in the trenches fighting for our rights and to ensure equal justice for all. Our ongoing featured series about the press has brought about thoughtful responses to our Reader’s Surveys. Please continue to participate and share your insights on the conduct of the media in this week’s Reader’s Survey. Every Monday at 9 a.m. (ET) Mary O’Neill, America’s Future Executive Director, shares responses from survey-takers on America’s Mondays With Mary. (https://app.clouthub.com/#/onboarding/?redirect=%2Fvideos%2Fchannel%2F9358ebf7-5535-4228-be9b-af25e779b1b4)
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Don't have ability to post the post-image but Greg Phillips of TrueTheVote stated:
The DOJ, FBI, and Biden conspired to incite a violent reaction from patriot groups across the country.
They are actively tracking unique device IDs.
mountain_jim
12th August 2022, 12:40
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-ag-merrick-garland-makes-statement-following-trump-raid
Trump Demands 'Immediate Release' Of FBI Raid Documents
BY TYLER DURDEN
FRIDAY, AUG 12, 2022 - 07:54 AM
Update (0032ET): President Trump has effectively dared the Department of Justice to release the documents related to the Monday raid on Mar-a-Lago.
"Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unAmerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents, even though they have been drawn up by radical left Democrats and possible future political opponents, who have a strong and powerful vested interest in attacking me, much as they have done for the last 6 years…" Trump said in a Thursday night post on Truth Social.
"This unprecedented political weaponization of law enforcement is inappropriate and highly unethical. The world is watching as our Country is being brought to a new low, not only on our border, crime, economy, energy, national security, and so much more, but also with respect to our sacred elections!" he said in a subsequent post.
The FBI was looking for 'classified documents relating to nuclear weapons,' among other things, during its Monday raid at former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence, WaPo reports (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/11/garland-trump-mar-a-lago/), citing 'people familiar with the investigation.'
So - we're to believe that the FBI took several boxes from Trump in June, told him to put a bigger lock, and then two months later realized 'oh -- he might have nuclear secrets' - justifying the raid.
The leakers did not offer additional details.
Material about nuclear weapons is especially sensitive and usually restricted to a small number of government officials, experts said. Publicizing details about U.S. weapons could provide an intelligence road map to adversaries seeking to build ways of countering those systems. And other countries might view exposing their nuclear secrets as a threat, experts said.
One former Justice Department official, who in the past oversaw investigations of leaks of classified information, said the type of top-secret information described by the people familiar with the probe would probably cause authorities to try to move as quickly as possible to recover sensitive documents that could cause grave harm to U.S. security. -Washington Post
"If the FBI and the Department of Justice believed there were top secret materials still at Mar-a-Lago, that would lend itself to greater ‘hair-on-fire’ motivation to recover that material as quickly as possible," said David Laufman, the former chief of the Justice Department’s counterintelligence section.
So we assume the narrative will now be that Trump leaked, or could have leaked, nuclear secrets to Putin - which justified "authorities to try to move as quickly as possible to recover sensitive documents" in the name of national security.
< much more including Trump's posts and other tweets at link >
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/court-removes-page-judge-who-approved-raid-trumps-home
Court Removes Page For Judge Who Approved Raid Of Trump's Home
BY TYLER DURDEN
FRIDAY, AUG 12, 2022 - 11:30 AM
Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times (https://www.theepochtimes.com/court-removes-page-for-judge-who-approved-raid-of-trumps-home_4657939.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge) (emphasis ours),
A federal court in Florida has removed the webpage for the judge who signed off on the FBI raid of former President Donald Trump’s home.
< at link >
mountain_jim
12th August 2022, 15:11
@intheMatrixxx
Forwarded from
KanekoaTheGreat
(https://t.me/mgshowchannel/31074)
If you are a Biden, you can collect more than $30 million from the Chinese government, work with the "spy chief of China", tell the world that you've given "half your salary" to pops for the last 30 years, and the FBI still won't raid you.
The FBI will even shield you from investigation by labeling your laptop containing substantial evidence of your family's crimes, financial corruption, and foreign kickbacks as "disinformation".
If you are a Trump, the FBI will fabricate a Russian-Collusion hoax against you, alter evidence in federal court to continue to spy on you, and when all of that doesn't work to frame you for a crime — the FBI will raid your home.
https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/hunter-bidens-sexually-inappropriate
https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/exclusive-hunter-biden-texted-hallie
(excerpt)
This single text message found on Hunter’s laptop raises many important national security concerns for the United States.
Why was Hunter Biden helping Vladimir Putin sell oil & gas to China?
Why was Hunter Biden working with ‘the chief of intelligence of the people’s republic of China’?
Why was Hunter Biden’s business partner with ‘the richest man in the world’ who was building China’s Belt and Road Initiative?
Did China arrest CIA operatives in retaliation for the DOJ arresting Hunter's business partner?
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ExomatrixTV
12th August 2022, 15:28
Trump Says “Nuclear Weapons” Issue Is A Hoax After Nuclear Documents Report!:
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onawah
12th August 2022, 16:32
Judge Orders DOJ to Respond to Motion to Unseal Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Materials by 5p.m. EST on August 15
From Judicial Watch
Judge Orders DOJ to Respond to Motion to Unseal Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Materials by 5p.m. EST on August 15
AUGUST 11, 2022
JUDICIAL WATCH
https://www.judicialwatch.org/judge-orders-doj-unseal-mar-a-lago-search-warrant/?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=action+alert&utm_term=members
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"(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart has ordered the U.S. Department of Justice to file a response to Judicial Watch’s Motion to Unseal the warrant and supporting materials behind the FBI raid of President Donald Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago by 5p.m. on August 15, 2022.
The order notes that, “The response may be filed ex parte and under seal as necessary to avoid disclosing matters already under seal. In that event, the Government shall file a redacted Response in the public record.”
On August 9, Judicial Watch filed its motion asking the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida to unseal as soon as possible the search warrant materials used by the FBI to raid President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home in Florida (U.S. v. Sealed Search Warrant (Case No. 9:22-mj-08332)).
The Albany Times Union and the New York Times have joined Judicial Watch in filing for the unsealing of the warrant by filing an amicus letter and motion respectively.
Due to multiple organizations filing to unseal the warrant, Judge Reinhart further ordered that, “To avoid the need for individualized orders on any future motion(s) to unseal, it is ORDERED that the Government shall file an omnibus response to all motions to unseal on or before 5:00 p.m. Eastern time on August 15, 2022.”
According to media reports, the warrant relates to an alleged dispute over the Presidential Records Act.
In its motion Judicial Watch states:
Judicial Watch is investigating the potential politicization of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the U.S. Department of Justice and whether the FBI and the Justice Department are abusing their law enforcement powers to harass a likely future political opponent of President Biden.
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The public has an urgent and substantial interest in understanding the predicate for the execution of the unprecedented search warrant of the private residence of a former president and likely future political opponent…. [N]o official explanation or information has been released about the search. As of the filing of this motion, the public record consists solely of speculation and inuendo. In short, the historical presumption of access to warrant materials vastly outweighs any interest the government may have in keeping the materials under seal.
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Given the political context, and the highly unusual action of executing a search warrant at the residence of a former President and likely future political opponent, it is essential that the public understands as soon as possible the basis for the government’s action. Any government interest in securing the identities of witnesses and confidential sources, if any, may be addressed by appropriate redactions from the search warrant affidavit.
As Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said when the motion was filed, “The Biden administration’s raid on President Trump’s home is an outrageous, reckless and unprecedented abuse of power. And the American people have an urgent right to know how it happened and who is responsible.”
More here: https://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-update-on-trump-warrant-legal-developments/
Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102511-Judicial-Watch-Corruption-Chronicles&p=1511897&viewfull=1#post1511897
onawah
12th August 2022, 16:50
"Trump comes into office as a Deep State candidate" says Dr. Joseph Farrell, and starting at 32 minutes into the discussion he explains why, in Dark Journalist's current update here:
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So what it comes down to is that the raid represents an all-out war between the two factions of the Deep State, with no regard for the law or the people of the US.
DJ and Farrell speculate as to whether what the FBI might have been looking for ( if anything) was a record of the secret conversation between Putin and Trump when Trump was POTUS, and which likely has to do with the UFO File (regarding UFO/ET contact).
(Although they agree the FBI's motives might actually have been to plant info, to plant bugs, etc. )
What I wonder is if what Trump has refused to reveal (and told Napolitano that if he knew what that info was, he wouldn't reveal it either) may have something to do with coming earth changes.
The Deep State has access to scientific knowledge long before it is made public, and has even gone so far as to infiltrate the A.R.E. in Virginia Beach to find out more about Edgar Cayce's work (probably his predictions; DJ has reported on this in other updates).
But even more to the point are reports of ETs' warnings not just regarding the cost of human-caused environmental damage, because it seems very likely they may have also warned about the devastating earth changes caused by the solar cycles and the geomagnetic pole reversal.
Given the scope of their advanced scientific knowledge and technology, they must surely know all about that, including what the cosmic "schedule" is, and that we are currently in the first stages of the next devastating 12,000 year cycle.
Revealing that would most definitely cause a lot of problems for those who consider themselves to be in charge of keeping the populace in line, because it would cause global panic of the first order.
(Which is why I think the depopulation agenda is being pushed so strongly, as it won't be long before it becomes obvious to everyone that big earth changes are coming.)
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mountain_jim
12th August 2022, 16:52
https://thefederalist.com/2022/08/12/christopher-wray-torched-on-twitter-for-scolding-those-who-dare-question-fbi-credibility/
Christopher Wray Torched On Twitter For Scolding Those Who Dare Question FBI Credibility
BY: JORDAN BOYD
AUGUST 12, 2022
FBI Director Christopher Wray was blasted on Twitter for claiming that outrage over the Trump raid is ‘unfounded’ and ‘dangerous.’
(excerpt - links, (great) tweets, and more at link)
As Federalist Senior Legal Correspondent Margot Cleveland noted in her article on Friday, “There is nothing ‘unfounded’ in the condemnation of the FBI for its handling of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, and it is because of that widespread misconduct that Americans doubt the legitimacy of the FBI’s decision to search the former president’s home.”
More than half of U.S. voters say bureaucratic agencies, which would include the DOJ and FBI, are too big and too focused on advancing a political agenda. Maybe that’s why the replies to Wray’s statement on Twitter were flooded with people who weren’t taking the bait on the FBI director’s latest crybaby routine.
Wray’s attempt to silence Americans’ legitimate criticisms with a statement not only prompted severe backlash but also calls for him to resign or be fired and demands that the FBI be disbanded, especially after it ignored certain kinds of violence including threats against Republican-nominated Supreme Court justices.
JackMcThorn
12th August 2022, 16:59
If the feds found anything; it would be all over the news and we wouldn't hear the end of it.
The FBI will not get disbanded. It is hard to decide who is more loony, because the left and the right sort have their meltdowns seemingly quite similarly.
Amerika has some kind of teflon coating. No matter how bad it gets, it slides right off. I'm wondering when the friction will wear the coating off.
There must be someone with some brains, somewhere in amerikan government that is actually concerned about these idiots and its former reputation.
TargeT
12th August 2022, 18:09
:popcorn:
smells a bit desperate in here.......
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This fire is just starting. What a time to be alive........
Nuclear what?? omfg.... are they even trying anymore??
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Is this all about the upcomming midterms? What the hell is going on, this is worse than "trump pees on prostitutes" BS from 2016
My "money" is on that boot drop being a Putin/nuke related spin.
Agreed, and it's heavyhanded and a bit obvious.
ExomatrixTV
12th August 2022, 19:25
Legacy Media Pretends Trump was Hoarding Nuclear Secrets at the Mar-a-Lago:
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norman
12th August 2022, 19:40
Corporate Media Muddies the Water - Conflates Criticism of Trump Raid w/ Conspiracy Theories
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ExomatrixTV
12th August 2022, 19:41
Trump Raid Details Hint It’s ‘Not Looking Good’ For The FBI:
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ExomatrixTV
12th August 2022, 19:53
Judge Who Signed Off On Trump FBI Raid DEFENDED Epstein's Lieutenants In SHOCKING Twist:
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mountain_jim
12th August 2022, 20:02
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11106833/FBI-recovered-ELEVEN-sets-classified-documents-Mar-Lago.html
Dailymail referring to Wall Street Journal report
(more images and posts and embedded links at link)
Trump is 'under investigation for violating the ESPIONAGE Act' after FBI 'recovered 11 sets of classified documents from Mar-a-Lago': Ex-president insists he 'declassified' all files his lawyers tell DOJ the warrant can be released
Trump is under investigation for obstruction of justice and violating the Espionage Act, according to a search warrant obtained by multiple news outlets
The warrant reportedly shows the FBI retrieved 11 sets of classified documents from Mar-a-Lago
Agents recovered 20 boxes in total from Florida estate, according to the WSJ
Some were marked as 'top secret' and meant to be kept in specialized facilities
Other boxes included handwritten notes and files with lower classifications
By MORGAN PHILLIPS, POLITICS REPORTER and KEITH GRIFFITH FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
Donald Trump is under investigation for obstruction of justice and violating the Espionage Act, according to a search warrant obtained by multiple news outlets showing the FBI retrieved 11 sets of classified documents from Mar-a-Lago.
Meanwhile the former president insisted Friday that everything was 'declassified' and agents 'didn't need to seize anything.'
Some of the documents were marked 'top secret' and are meant to be kept in specialized government facilities, the Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-recovered-eleven-sets-of-classified-documents-in-trump-search-inventory-shows-11660324501) reported after seeing a copy of the search inventory.
The FBI would have needed to prove reasonable suspicion that Trump committed a crime in holding on to the documents - reports suggest that criminal statutes cited in the not-yet-public warrant include espionage, removal of records and obstruction of justice.
Violations of the Espionage Act could include: harboring or concealing persons, gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, gathering or delivering defense information to aid a foreign government, or disclosure of classified information.
Agents recovered 20 boxes in total from the Florida estate, according to the report, with the rest including handwritten notes, photo binders, the grant of clemency of Roger Stone and a file with 'information on the President of France'.
The warrant is believed to have given FBI agents permission to search in Trump's office and all storage areas on the premises, and states four sets of top secret documents, three sets of secret documents, and three sets of confidential documents were retrieved.
Trump's attorneys now also claim former President Trump declassified the documents before he left office. A president has the power to declassify any document, but there is a strict federal procedure for doing so.
In breaching the former president's residency Monday, the FBI was looking for Top Secret and 'compartmented' documents dealing with intelligence 'sources and methods,' government sources told Newsweek on Friday.
'Compartmented' documents would pertain to 'classified information concerning or derived from intelligence sources, methods, or analytical processes, which is required to be handled within formal access control systems established by the Director of National Intelligence.'
Only a very small circle of people would be allowed to know what was on such documents, which could mean that a warrant or a receipt would not reveal much information about what was taken.
Intelligence sources say that Trump would not have the capability to declassify such documents.
Trump declared Friday afternoon that everything in his possession was declassified. He claimed agents could have had the documents 'LONG ago' if they had just asked.
'Number one, it was all declassified. Number two, they didn't need to 'seize' anything. They could have had it anytime they wanted without playing politics and breaking into Mar-a-Lago. It was in secured storage, with an additional lock put on as per their request,' he wrote on Truth Social.
'They could have had it anytime they wanted—and that includes LONG ago. ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS ASK,' he added.
The former president took to Truth Social earlier to compare the latest allegations to 'Russia, Russia, Russia', impeachment and the Steele Dossier, and again suggested that law enforcement could have 'planted' evidence.
The search and seizure warrant, according to WSJ, signed by Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, allowed for a search of 'the 45 office' and 'all storage rooms and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by [the former president] and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate.'
The warrant was signed on Aug. 5, the raid conducted three days later on Aug. 8.
The warrant reportedly further reads that 'property to be seized' includes 'All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime or other items illegally possessed in violation.'
'Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are locations, as well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned documents and containers/boxes.'
The warrant then broadly allows for the seizure of any official record from Trump's presidency.
It continues: 'Information, including communications in any form, regarding the retrieval, storage, or transmission of national defense information or classified material; Any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017,' the day Trump took office, and the end of his term.
The warrant is expected to be released later today, but the government does not yet have plans to release the affidavit to the warrant, which could reveal much more information.
Trump and his team say they do not have a copy of the affidavit and his lawyers have asked for a more detailed account of what was taken from Mar-a-Lago.
A report from News Nation then claimed that agents discovered 'boxes everywhere', including some papers labeled top secrets, from two areas including a 'storage room near a pool' and his 'personal office above a ballroom'.
The report did not specify the ballroom or pool where the documents were found, but did state that some of the papers had Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information - the highest level of classification.
Trump's post criticizing agents for banning his lawyers from watching the search came just hours after he said he backed a Florida judge unsealing the search warrant that led to the search on his estate on Monday.
His lawyers have until 3pm on Friday to object to the release, but they are unlikely to object.
'Nuclear weapons issue is a Hoax, just like Russia, Russia, Russia was a Hoax, two Impeachments were a Hoax, the Mueller investigation was a Hoax, and much more,' Trump wrote Friday morning.
He added: 'Same sleazy people involved. Why wouldn't the FBI allow the inspection of areas at Mar-a-Lago with our lawyer's, or others, present. Made them wait outside in the heat, wouldn't let them get even close - said 'ABSOLUTELY NOT.' Planting information anyone? Reminds me of a Christofer (sic) Steele Dossier!
Trump also posted about the House vote on the Inflation Reduction Act - calling it 'the biggest green new fake deal bill in history - and tore into Republican 'impeachers' and 'Crazy' Liz Cheney ahead of her Wyoming primary on Tuesday night.
The Friday morning statement on the raids was prompted by a Washington Post story published Thursday night that the search at his property was based on documents related to nuclear weapons.
FBI agents did retrieve boxes from Mar-a-Lago, but their contents are still unclear. The unsealing of the search warrant will provide more details, but if the files are marked top secret or classified then details will be kept hidden.
Late on Thursday, Trump said he would not challenge the release of the warrant, after Attorney General Merrick Garland said he would petition for the document to be unsealed.
According to Garland, Trump's attorneys do have their own copies of both the warrant and the receipt for items seized in Monday's raid -- documents that are routinely provided to the target of a court-approved search.
If Trump does have the warrant and receipt as Garland says, it's unclear why he would not simply publish them himself, which he has a right to do.
Trump announced his stance in a post on his Truth Social network. 'Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the un American, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by ENCOURAGING the immediate release of those documents,' he wrote.
Trump added that he encouraged the warrant's release even though it was 'drawn up by radical left Democrats and possible future political opponents, who have a strong and vested interest in attacking me.'
The statement came well ahead of the 3pm Friday deadline that Trump's legal team faced if they decided to oppose the DOJ motion to unseal the warrant, and a ruling on the motion could come before the weekend.
Earlier Thursday, Garland appeared before cameras to defend the search and reveal that he had approved the operation at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach.
Fall-out from the unprecedented search of a former president's residence has dominated the political world ever since Monday and the Justice Department is under increasing pressure to explain its decision.
Garland said he could not reveal further details of what prompted the hunt, but sources told the Washington Post it was to do with nuclear weapons.
But they did not say whether it was to do with the U.S. nuclear program or that of another nation.
Moments before Garland's brief remarks the Justice Department petitioned a judge to unseal the search warrant.
He said the DOJ moved to make the search warrant public 'in light of the former president's public confirmation of the search, the surrounding circumstances, and the substantial public interest in this matter.'
Garland took no questions but went out of his way to criticize the recent verbal attacks and threats against law enforcement in the wake of the 'raid.'
'Let me address recent unfounded attacks on the professionalism of the FBI and Justice Department agents and prosecutors. I will not stand by silently when their integrity is unfairly attacked,' the Biden official said.
'Men and women of the FBI and the Justice Department are dedicated, patriotic public servants. Every day, they protect the American people from violent crime, terrorism and other threats to their safety while safeguarding our civil rights. They do so at great personal sacrifice and risk to themselves.'
His last-minute appearance comes after the former president claimed his home was 'raided' by federal agents who apparently broke a padlocked door and seized documents sought by the National Archives.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hoax-trump-denies-nuclear-weapons-report-likens-steele-dossier
Here's The Warrant: DOJ Investigating Trump For Potential Violations Of Espionage Act, Obstruction Of Justice
BY TYLER DURDEN
FRIDAY, AUG 12, 2022 - 03:37 PM
Update (1537ET): Politico reports that based on the search warrant, the FBI is investigating former President Trump for "removal or destruction of records, obstruction of an investigation, and violating the Espionage Act," while Breitbart has the actual statutes from the warrant.
(at link)
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1558178584493162498?s=20&t=M3IY9a4Kc36FCSDKBeZeMg
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ExomatrixTV
13th August 2022, 01:54
Trump Search Warrant UNSEALED! Roger Stone & France Docs, Handwritten Notes!:
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Ratszinger
13th August 2022, 04:56
Mike Davis- "The President of the United States has both the constitutional (and statutory) power to declassify anything he wants.
If President Trump left the White House with classified records, they are declassified by his actions.
Period. "
I'll add. This is exactly why Obama left with 33 million files, many of which were classified but by his very action of taking them declassified them and nothing was ever said or done about it. The truth is that it should be the same for Trump! Obama made it this way in his 8 year term. No presidents before Obama could take records like this but he changed it. It was not Trump and I guarantee you Trump declassified all of it if not formally before it was shipped by third parties he delegated it to, which is fully within his authority to do, but by his action of removing it which is also completely legal! The FBI has no case here! It is not possible for a president to leave the presidency while still president and have anything classified. Anything on his person would by that fact alone be declassfied.
ExomatrixTV
13th August 2022, 10:43
Charges Levelled Against Donald Trump 'Are Not Going To Hold':
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Trump Releases the Banana Republic Break-in Warrant... Just as the Liberals Wanted:
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ExomatrixTV
13th August 2022, 11:14
POLL꞉ FBI Raid BACKFIRES Spectacularly on Dems as Panicked Biden HIDES Under His Desk!
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T Smith
13th August 2022, 11:33
Mike Davis- "The President of the United States has both the constitutional (and statutory) power to declassify anything he wants.
If President Trump left the White House with classified records, they are declassified by his actions.
Period. "
I'll add. This is exactly why Obama left with 33 million files, many of which were classified but by his very action of taking them declassified them and nothing was ever said or done about it. The truth is that it should be the same for Trump! Obama made it this way in his 8 year term. No presidents before Obama could take records like this but he changed it. It was not Trump and I guarantee you Trump declassified all of it if not formally before it was shipped by third parties he delegated it to, which is fully within his authority to do, but by his action of removing it which is also completely legal! The FBI has no case here! It is not possible for a president to leave the presidency while still president and have anything classified. Anything on his person would by that fact alone be declassfied.
This whole discussion is very frustrating. Those who advance this argument (we've seen it out there, not just from Mike Davis, but from others) are attempting to use the principal of law in a land of lawlessness...
Does it really matter if the FBI has no case? Or if Donald Trump did nothing wrong? I pose this not rhetorically, but as a serious question.
What matters is whether we the people will continue to stand for this brand of lawlessness, corrupted justice, and selective persecution. We seemed okay granting Deep State law enforcement the benefit of the doubt during a six year warrantless persecution of its political enemy; we seemed to condone the theater of their non-election and to go along with a coup d'etat that ousted the legitimate government. We seemed complacent during the subsequent anointment of their proxy government whose objective was (and continues to be) to distract while they resumed dismantling the Constitutional Republic. We are even content with their ensuing 24/7 gaslighting in the wake of these crimes. Why should they think we won't just stand by while they accuse, condemn, and convict (without warrant or precedent) the one person with enough political capital to challenge their agenda?
We as a people have emboldened this brand of lawlessness. I've heard enough. I don't need Mike Davis to tell me Donald Trump is no party to the charges. What matters now, it seems to me, is whether we continue to stand for this nonsense.
ExomatrixTV
13th August 2022, 11:42
‘New Leadership’ Needed for FBI agency:
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ExomatrixTV
13th August 2022, 11:49
Trump Search Warrant: This Isn't About Whether Or Not You Support Trump:
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my comment on this youtube video:
"Am happy that Fox decided to have Tulsi Gabbard (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108976-Tulsi-Gabbard) working for them ... excellent choice ... I assume she is 100% free to be (healthy) critical towards anything Tulsi deems warranted ... no matter if it may hurt some of the Fox advertisers! (like Big Pharma).
ps am Dutch so forgive me if I phrase it a little weird" ;)
ExomatrixTV
13th August 2022, 11:56
Jon Voight: Pray Donald Trump Makes A ‘Comeback Stronger Than Ever’:
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TomKat
13th August 2022, 13:08
Joseph Farrel and Dark Journalist speculate on what the deep state might be looking for that Trump has, maybe JFK or UFO data given Trump by Putin:
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/dark-journalist-dr-joseph-farrell-mar-a-lago-mcguffin-real-ufo-file/
Farrel has picked up Austin-Fitts' habit of laughing nervously after every statement, which is kind of irritating.
mountain_jim
13th August 2022, 14:42
Stephen Miller (born August 23, 1985)[1] is an American political advisor who served as a senior advisor for policy and White House director of speechwriting to President Donald Trump.
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Forwarded from
KanekoaTheGreat (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/50914)
Stephen Miller 'Donald Trump Is The Umpire Of What Is Classified'
"Donald J. Trump is the classification authority. He is the decider of what is and what isn't classified. So national archivist and FBI agents saying 'we know what is classified, not Donald Trump' would be like a heckler at a Yankees game actually getting to make the calls when he disagrees with the umpire. Donald Trump is the umpire of what is classified. This is all pretextual for get Trump."
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1558244328471945216?s=20&t=lPfq-56RN7mueqlv-g_yNg
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Ratszinger
13th August 2022, 15:27
The President of the United States has both the constitutional (and statutory) power to declassify anything he wants.
If President Trump left the White House with classified records, they are declassified by his actions.
Period. This is exactly why Obama wasn't touched when he left with some 33 million files. Obama made it so a prez could do this. Other presidents didn't have that power but he and Trump did. So by the very fact the president had the items they were declassified by his possession of them according to Mike Davis and Dershowitz.“As a matter of law, no President can be charged under the Espionage Act for “mishandling” classified records. When President Trump had the records sent to Mar-a-Lago, they were declassified. Former presidents don’t have this power. But Trump did this as the President.” Further, the President of the United States has both the constitutional (and statutory) power to declassify anything he wants.
TargeT
13th August 2022, 16:22
so the new rumor is that trump was giving nuclear secrets to moscow.... haha
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Ratszinger
13th August 2022, 16:46
Only the left would try to say Trump is dealing with China after the world can now see that the CCP has Joe and family by the short and curly hairs manipulating them about like the puppets they are! Even Apple is now yielding to China's demands to stamp all the Taiwan made product as made in China and Apple said okay! The fact is the left is just projecting again using their bought media talking heads. It is they that are leveraged and working with China because China has the goods to extort all of them thanks to Joe's stupid and disgusting son.
The leftists have done this before but it takes a process to get these things worked out in our legal system. It isn't possible in our system to jump right to the end! You have to hear the case and so far all we get is the one side and the other side is very cloudy and very hard to hear because it is made that way on purpose! In the end tho, the system will prevail, and I believe Trump and the people will also, and because of patience and letting the process run to fruition. Q said over and over to trust the plan and whether we like it not that is really all we have. I want to shout to the world to tell someone to please make Orwell fantasy again too believe me but even if all of us shouted it no one is going to hear it. We don't a powerful network of media talking head celebs out there pushing our agenda!
Bill Ryan
13th August 2022, 17:50
Alexander Mercouris' take, also referencing Charles I of England and the Ancient Greeks in Athens (who are well worth referencing, since they invented democracy :) ). Well worth listening to, as always. His speculation about the FBI raid is that Trump had forewarning and was well prepared in every way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH8_W0-NkHU
onawah
13th August 2022, 20:06
Rudy Giuliani: They wanted the show we're having right now to distract America | 'Saturday Report'
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"On 'Saturday Report', Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani slams the raid on Mar-a-Lago and why it is meant as a distraction."
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Satori
13th August 2022, 21:03
It seems to me that the principal reason we are seeing such hubris and callous indifference to the the public outcry denouncing the DOJ, FBI and the others responsible for the blatant unconstitutional and flagrantly unlawful conduct, and I’m not just referring to the raid on Trump’s home and his wife’s underwear, is that they don’t give a sh!t what we think.
This is not new. This is not limited to the usurping, illegitimate Biden regime and his handlers. This has been the case since circa 1963, which got a boost and the stage was set many decades earlier in 1913.
It is as if they have convinced themselves that they are bullet proof and that there is not a damn thing people will do about it, and more importantly, can do about it, even if we the people could muster the will to take action in the first place.
They hold us all in utter contempt and see us as easy targets, ripe for the fleecing and deserving of being fleeced.
What have we done, and what will we do, to finally, and once and for all, disabuse them of their contempt for us and hold them accountable?
When is enough too much? And, when will it be too late?
mountain_jim
13th August 2022, 22:37
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/sperry-fbi-agents-involved-trump-raid-criminal-investigation-durham-abusing-power-trump-russia-probe/
SPERRY: FBI Agents Involved in Trump Raid are Under Criminal Investigation by Durham For Abusing Their Power in Trump-Russia Probe
By Cristina Laila
Published August 13, 2022 at 2:20pm
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Recall, investigative reporter Paul Sperry was suspended from Twitter earlier this week after he revealed the FBI may have had a personal stake (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/report-fbi-confidential-human-source-told-fbi-documents-trump-stored-mar-lago-search-related-spygate/) and searched for classified documents related to Spygate.
“DEVELOPING: Investigators reportedly met back in June w Trump & his lawyers in Mar-a-Lago storage rm to survey docs & things seemed copasetic but then FBI raids weeks later. Speculation on Hill FBI had PERSONAL stake & searching for classified docs related to its #Spygate scandal.” – investigative journalist Paul Sperry said in a tweet Tuesday before getting suspended (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-suspends-journalist-paul-sperry-after-fbi-trump-raid-tweets)from Twitter.
Sperry dropped another bomb on Saturday.
According to Paul Sperry, the federal agents involved in the Mar-a-Lago raid are under investigation by Special Counsel John Durham.
“Developing: Sources say the FBI agents and officials who were involved in the raid on former President Trump’s home work in the same Counterintelligence Division of the FBI that investigated Trump in the Russiagate hoax and are actively under criminal investigation by Special Counsel John Durham for potentially abusing their power investigating Trump in the Russian fraud and therefore have a potential conflict of interest and should have been RECUSED from participating in this supposed “espionage” investigation at Mar-a-Lago” Sperry said in a social media post on Saturday.
< more at link >
apokalypse
14th August 2022, 00:32
Technically President Trump can declassify anything. However, it is also true that technically POTUS doesn’t actually declassify anything. The Office of the President asks for a document to enter into a declassification review process.
Officials within that process (ODNI, DoD, DoS, FBI, DOJ-NSD, CIA, NSA, etc), based on their unique relationship to the interests within the document(s), can approve or refuse to sign-off based on their specific intelligence interests. This is where compartmented intelligence comes into play.
Any officer who refuses the request for declassification must justify to the intelligence hub; the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI, Dan Coats). The executive branch intelligence official tells the ODNI (Dan Coats) why they, their unique interests, cannot approve of the declassification request.
DNI Dan Coats then informs POTUS why the document is not cleared for declassification.
If he disagrees with the decision of the intelligence official, POTUS then would have to fire, replace and hope the next person in the chain-of-command would sign-off. Given the nuance in the current example, and considering the President is under a counterintelligence cloud it is unlikely any officer would break ranks.
President Trump would have to fire people, and keep firing people, until he gets to a person, inside that specific agency, who will comply. Now stop and be reasonable.
Think about the general political ramifications to that decision. And then think about the ramifications against the reality that President Trump is a target, under the cloud of a counterintelligence probe.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2019/01/29/part-i-the-presidential-declassification-counter-punch-understanding-the-process/
So President Trump requests his FBI Director and Attorney General to declassify those documents as requested by congress. However, if the FBI Director and/or Attorney General refuse to declassify those documents, then what happens?
Remember, all current behavior reflects the current DOJ and FBI leadership are just as complicit in the current corruption -via the cover-up- as the former DOJ and FBI leadership. The current DOJ/FBI leadership (both members of the executive branch) have been refusing to turn over these and other documents.
Yes, President Trump is the Chief Executive, but unfortunately he has executive cabinet members who are actively acting against his requests. [See the numerous Trump tweets for examples of the President’s frustration].
Now the ordinary process becomes anything but ordinary.
Now the problem moves from process to politics.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2018/09/07/the-declassification-conundrum/
it goes whole deal of President Declassification and Trump fighting to get it declassification...this is one of reason why Trump big mistake during his Presidency is doesn't have his own guy when whole Intel against him like FBI colluded with Clinton.
this is why Obama and the rest of previous president can get away with anything...
nuclear Stuff that talked about based on this ****...
Whistleblowers Raise Grave Concerns with
Trump Administration’s Efforts to Transfer
Sensitive Nuclear Technology to Saudi Arabia
Prepared for Chairman Elijah E. Cummings
Interim Staff Report
Committee on Oversight and Reform
U.S. House of Representatives
February 2019
This interim staff report was prepared for Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the Chairman of the
Committee on Oversight and Reform, after multiple whistleblowers came forward to warn about
efforts inside the White House to rush the transfer of highly sensitive U.S. nuclear technology to
Saudi Arabia in potential violation of the Atomic Energy Act and without review by Congress as
required by law—efforts that may be ongoing to this day.
The Trump Administration’s interactions with Saudi Arabia have been shrouded in
secrecy, raising significant questions about the nature of the relationship.
https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf
conclusion...FBI raid just continuation nothing ****ing new.
norman
14th August 2022, 00:36
It seems to me that the principal reason we are seeing such hubris and callous indifference to the the public outcry denouncing the DOJ, FBI and the others responsible for the blatant unconstitutional and flagrantly unlawful conduct, and I’m not just referring to the raid on Trump’s home and his wife’s underwear, is that they don’t give a sh!t what we think.
This is not new. This is not limited to the usurping, illegitimate Biden regime and his handlers. This has been the case since circa 1963, which got a boost and the stage was set many decades earlier in 1913.
It is as if they have convinced themselves that they are bullet proof and that there is not a damn thing people will do about it, and more importantly, can do about it, even if we the people could muster the will to take action in the first place.
They hold us all in utter contempt and see us as easy targets, ripe for the fleecing and deserving of being fleeced.
What have we done, and what will we do, to finally, and once and for all, disabuse them of their contempt for us and hold them accountable?
When is enough too much? And, when will it be too late?
It will be too late when foreign forces unload off their ships at NATO's Norfolk Virginia naval base to take over the grunt end of finalising what has been the Biden debacle. Biden's purpose was never to look and act like a competent president who could steer the country away from constitutional crisis. Really, he's meant to be the opening overture of an outside intervention.
I'm getting a feeling the game plan is to not have the November elections at all, but to create maximum crisis, constitutional and otherwise.
What they want and need most of all now, is a red carpet for intervention. The only electioneering going on, on their side, is to set up candidates for selection into an occupying 'emergency' government.
Is there a patriot military command that can or will prevent a cake walk invasion of those forces of previously allied entities? Entities who don't want the indignity of having to let the 'East' come and take it because they have long promised to hand over the United States of America to the New World Order themselves. There's a fight and a pecking order to fight for, within the NWO. Their sights and concerns, passions and desired rewards are centred there not with us.
apokalypse
14th August 2022, 01:16
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can't name Agency won't allow congress to see something that Hilary Clinton without security clearance to see..
it's clown Show..as i post above about declassification, comes down to the gang members of the MOB that individuals can get away with anything.
apokalypse
14th August 2022, 02:07
i saw this post from other forums....
18 U.S. Code §§ 793, §§ 1519, and §§ 2071 aren't appropriate because they conflict with 44 U.S. Code, Chapter 22, which governs Presidential Records. It's the same as with 5 U.S. Code § 552. The Freedom of Information Act, which doesn't apply to the records of the President and Vice President for the same reason. See Armstrong v. Bush, 924 F.2d 282, 286 n. 2 (D.C. Cir. 1991).
thinking about it..the only make sense is they into trump through that whole Nuke thing not declassify/classify stuff.
onawah
14th August 2022, 02:37
Constitutional Crisis Classified UFO File FBI Raid
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(As usual, DJ connects important dots that others completely overlook.)
"THE REAL STORY
Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt Reports on the latest info on the unprecedented FBI Raid of Mar-A-Lago and the links to the Classified UFO File and the Secret Info that the President's Uncle MIT Scientist John G. Trump held from his handling of the Nikola Tesla papers."
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apokalypse
14th August 2022, 02:47
Constitutional Crisis Classified UFO File FBI Raid
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"THE REAL STORY
Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt Reports on the latest info on the unprecedented FBI Raid of Mar-A-Lago and the links to the Classified UFO File and the Secret Info that the President's Uncle MIT Scientist John G. Trump held from his handling of the Nikola Tesla papers."
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that's even possible aswell...whole FBI raid is fishing exhibition nothing more and nothing less.
DaveToo
14th August 2022, 17:24
Donald Trump Killed the Soap O'Pra Star,
Donald Trump Killed the Soap O'Pra Star
(Sung to the 1979 hit tune 'Video Killed the Radio Star') :)
Ratszinger
14th August 2022, 18:40
🚨FACTS MATTER FOLKS🚨 Read carefully ⬇️
✔️ On March 24th President Trump sued Hillary Clinton for false Russia claims and collusion.
➡️ Trump vs. Clinton (2:22 CV-14102)
✔️ On April 6th the original judge recused himself from the case therefore replacing himself with none other than corrupt Judge Bruce Reinhardt. Judge Reinhart remained on this case all the way from April 26th to June 22nd.
✔️ On June 22nd Judge Reinhardt suddenly recused himself from the case. (28 U.S. Code 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge or magistrate judge)
✔️ On August 4th, President Trump submitted a motion to DENY the request for a dismissal of the case by Hillary Clinton and team.
In other words, Hillary Clinton asked for President Trumps lawsuit to be dismissed. She knows if the lawsuit proceeds, the insurmountable evidence of her collusion and spying will prove her guilt and collusion. (That’s putting it nicely)
✔️ August 8th was the most recent entry on this case. It is STILL AN ACTIVE CASE against Hillary Clinton.
The following day after the request was denied by Trumps team, the Ex-judge on this case Judge Bruce Reinhardt issued a search warrant for a raid on President trumps personal residence at Mar-a-Lago.
✔️🚨 Judge Bruce Reinhardt is a former Obama donor AND former defense attorney for J͟e͟f͟f͟e͟r͟y̲ E͟p̲s͟t͟e͟i͟n͟s͟ Pilots and others connected to his island!
✔️ The FBI refused to allow anyone to observe the raid including Trumps legal team who wanted to ensure nothing would be planted by the FBI as they have been known to do. No lawyers were allowed to supervise from a distance. After a significant and difficult effort, the FBI did finally allow Trumps Lawyers to visually review the warrant in hand but did not allow them to have a copy. (Sounds legitimate right….not corrupt at all).
After all it’s not like the FBI should be looking into Hunter and Joe Biden for knowingly colluding with foreign countries such as Russia, Ukraine or China) for profit and using presidential power. That only scratches the surface. As a matter of fact, the FBI holds ALL the proof and evidence on Hunters laptop 💻 but somehow can’t seem to find the time to take a glance at it. They are too busy with false flags on President Trump in an effort to distract you and stop him from running again.
Look at the state of our country folks. Says it all!
At what point will you realize a coincidence isn’t just a coincidence anymore.
onawah
14th August 2022, 21:27
Donald Trump "has decided that he's running" | Sebastian Gorka | Wake Up America Weekend
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"Sebastian Gorka reveals Donald Trump has already made up his mind on 2024 and tells Newsmax viewers to "stay tuned" and more - via Newsmax's Wake Up America Weekend."
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mountain_jim
14th August 2022, 21:39
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=1050,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/113/470/066/original/ed2f3a63036582bc.jpeg
Nunes: Shifting media: narratives are key to unraveling the Mar-a-Lago raid
(12:50 - Kash and Devin)
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mojo
14th August 2022, 22:44
A picture can tell so much...
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onawah
14th August 2022, 23:41
I hope Trump will campaign and bring more cohesion to the Republican party, especially now that the Dems have shot themselves in the foot.
And then I hope he has the sense to step down and put his support behind DeSantis who obviously has the youth, the strength, the reputation to run and win, and could even get Dems behind him.
There will no doubt be even more disillusioned Dems by then with Biden et al, and willing to make the switch, and that should create less division in the US.
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(This video is from July, but it's a good portrait of De Santis and where he stands.)
apokalypse
15th August 2022, 05:48
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Barne explain very well regarding the law about FBi Raid...i absolutely agreed with him this is DEEP STATE RAID.
mountain_jim
15th August 2022, 12:49
update: source had a bad link for part 1 - fixed using correct link included in part 2
(Sundance wrote many of the best researched articles explaining what was happening during the RussiaGate conspiracy against Trump.)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/11/part-4-what-was-in-the-trump-documents-creating-such-fear-in-doj-and-fbi/
Part 4, What Was in The Trump Documents Creating Such Fear in DOJ and FBI
August 11, 2022 | Sundance | 658 Comments
In Part One we outlined the background of the modern Deep State {Go Deep (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/11/part-1-why-did-the-doj-and-fbi-execute-the-raid-on-trump-the-story-behind-the-documents/)}. In Part Two we outlined the specifics of how President Trump was targeted by political operatives using tools created by the DC system {Go Deep (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/11/part-2-why-did-the-doj-and-fbi-execute-the-raid-on-trump-the-evidence-within-the-documents/)}. In Part Three we outlined how and why President Trump was blocked from releasing documents {Go Deep (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/11/part-3-why-did-the-doj-and-fbi-execute-the-raid-on-trump-a-culmination-of-four-years-of-threats-and-betrayals/)}. Here in Part 4, we begin to assemble the specifics of what documents likely existed in Mar-a-Lago.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/merrick-garland-weaponized.jpg
It is important to remember, the presidential records act –the presented pretext for the document conflict– is not a criminal statute. An FBI raid cannot be predicated on a document conflict between the National Archives and a former president.
The DOJ-NSD warrant, and the subsequent raid on Mar-a-Lago can only be related to records the U.S. government deems “classified” and material vital to national security interests. Hence, DOJ National Security Division involvement.
In prior outlines we have exhaustively covered the details of President Trump’s desire to publicly release information about DOJ and FBI conduct in their targeting of him during the fabricated Trump-Russia claims. However, to understand the nature of the documents he may hold, we first review the declassification memo provided by President Trump to the DOJ upon his departure from office.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Trump-declassification.jpg
In broad terms there are two sets of documents that intermingle and are directly related. First, documents that highlight the activity of Hillary Clinton’s team in creating the false Trump-Russia conspiracy theory (2015/2016). Second, documents that highlight the activity of government officials targeting Donald Trump within the same timeframe (Crossfire Hurricane), that continued into 2017, 2018 and 2019 (Robert Mueller).
Think of the two sets of documents as evidence against two teams working in synergy. Team one (Clinton) was outside government. Team two (DOJ/FBI) was inside government. The documents pertain to both groups but are also divided. That helps to explain the wording of the memo above.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/trump-fist-crop.jpg
The documentary evidence against the outside group (Clinton et al) would also involve government documented evidence as the DOJ/FBI inside group interacted with them. Notes from interviews, materials provided, FBI 302 summaries of interviews, etc.
We can extract a lot of information on the first sets of evidence from the lawsuit filed by President Trump in March of this year, mostly against the outside actors. [LINK HERE] (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157.1.0.pdf)
The lawsuit was filed against specific persons and most of those persons were interviewed by the FBI as part of the originating investigation. Within the subjects of the lawsuit we find names and groups including:
Hillary Clinton, Hillary for America Campaign Committee, DNC, DNC Services Corp, Perkins Coie, Michael Sussmann, Marc Elias, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Charles Dolan, Jake Sullivan, John Podesta, Robby Mook, Phillipe Reines as well as Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, Orbis Business Intelligence, Christopher Steele, Igor Danchenko, Neustar Inc., Rodney Joffe, James Comey Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith and Andrew McCabe.
In addition to being named in the lawsui (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157.1.0.pdf)t, many of those names were interviewed by the FBI as part of the origination of the Trump-Russia investigation, and/or part of the ongoing investigation of the Trump-Russia fabrication. Each of those interviews would carry an FD-302 report summarizing the content of the interview, the questions and answers given.
The totality of those 302 documents is a lot of evidence likely consisting of hundreds of pages.
For the government officials on the inside, in addition to 302’s (ex Bruce Ohr) there would be documents of communication between them.
Think about the full unredacted text messages between Lisa Page and Peter Strzok as an example. The DOJ publicly released over 600 pages of those text messages, and that wasn’t all of them. The text messages were also redacted, under claims of privacy and national security. We can assume any version of these text messages declassified by President Trump would not be redacted. Hence, you go back to the January 20th memo and see the notes about “privacy.”
We also know there are many pages of communication between DOJ lawyer Lisa Page and her boss in the FBI Andrew McCabe. Almost none of them were ever made public; but they exist. This internal communication is likely the type of material contained in both the “binder,” left for the DOJ to release, and the boxes at Mar-a-Lago to be used as evidence against the named defendants in the lawsuit.
Bruce Ohr has 302’s and emails relating to his involvement as a conduit between Fusion GPS and the FBI. Some of those were released in redacted form, and some of them were never released. Additionally, Nellie Ohr, Bruce’s wife, who worked at Fusion GPS invoked spousal privilege when called to testify before the House committee investigating the issues. However, it is almost certain the FBI interviewed her so there are likely 302’s on Nellie Ohr.
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Chris Steele, Igor Danchenko and Rodney Joffe were also interviewed by the FBI. Those 302’s were never released. Presumably John Durham has stakeholder equity in that part of the Trump-Russia hoax, but the documentary evidence prior to January 20, 2021, that exists outside the special counsel could also be records at Mar-a-Lago.
Then we get to the big stuff…. The records and evidence in unredacted and declassified state, that would drive the DOJ-NSD to claim vital national security interests.
The NSA compliance officer notified NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers of unauthorized use of the NSA database by FBI contractors searching U.S. citizens during the 2015/2016 presidential primary. That 2016 notification is a classified record.
The response from Mike Rogers, and the subsequent documentary evidence of what names were being searched is again a classified record. The audit logs showing who was doing the searches (which contractors, which agencies and from what offices), as noted by Director Rogers, was preserved. That is another big-time classified record.
In addition, we would have Admiral Rogers writing a mandatory oversight notification to the FISA court detailing what happened. That’s a big and comprehensive classified record, likely contained in the documents in Mar-a-Lago… and then the goldmine, the fully unredacted 99-page FISA court opinion detailing the substance of the NSA compromise by FBI officials and contractors, including the names, frequency and dates of the illegal surveillance. That is a major classified document the Deepest Deep State would want to keep hidden.
These are the types of documents within what former ODNI John Ratcliffe called “thousands of pages that were declassified by President Trump,” and given to both John Durham and Main Justice with an expectation of public release when the Durham special counsel probe concluded.
In short, President Trump declassified documents that show how the institutions within the U.S. government targeted him. However, the institutions that illegally targeted President Trump are the same institutions who control the specific evidence of their unlawful targeting.
These examples of evidence held by President Donald Trump reveals the background of how the DC surveillance state exists. THAT was/is the national security threat behind the DOJ-NSD search warrant and affidavit.
The risk to the fabric of the U.S. government is why we see lawyers and pundits so confused as they try to figure out the disproportionate response from the DOJ and FBI, toward “simple records”, held by President Trump in Mar-a-Lago. Very few people can comprehend what has been done since January 2009, and the current state of corruption as it now exists amid all of the agencies and institutions of government.
Barack Obama spent 8 years building out and refining the political surveillance state. The operators of the institutions have spent the last six years hiding the construct.
President Donald Trump declassified the material then took evidence to Mar-a-Lago. The people currently in charge of managing the corrupt system, like Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Chris Wray and the Senate allies, are going bananas. From their DC perspective, Donald Trump is an existential threat.
Given the nature of their opposition, and the underlying motives for their conduct, there is almost nothing they will not do to protect themselves. However, if you peel away all the layers of lies, manipulations and corruption, what you find at the heart of their conduct is fear.
What do they fear most?…
…..THIS!
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People forget, and that’s ok, but prior to the 2015 MAGA movement driven by President Donald J Trump, political rallies filled with tens-of-thousands of people were extremely rare; almost nonexistent. However, in the era of Donald J Trump the scale of the people paying attention has grown exponentially. Every speech, every event, every rally is now filled with thousands and thousands of people.
The frequency of it has made us numb to realizing just how extraordinary this is. But the people in Washington DC are well aware, and that makes President Trump even more dangerous. Combine that level of support with what they attempted in order to destroy him, and, well, now you start to put context on their effort.
The existence of Trump is a threat, but the existence of a Trump that could expose their corruption…. well, that makes him a level of threat that leads to a raid on his home in Mar-a-Lago.
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mountain_jim
15th August 2022, 15:41
If you really want to understand the war going on focusing on Trump's documents, I recommend reading all 4 parts of the above research summary articles linked within the part 4 I posted above.
Hopefully Durham's upcoming trial(s) can get some of this in the record, but the corrupt deep state intelligence political control operation is fighting to prevent the public exposure of their crimes with an overview documented extensively within these 4 parts.
From Part 2 (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/08/11/part-2-why-did-the-doj-and-fbi-execute-the-raid-on-trump-the-evidence-within-the-documents/)
How this all comes together.
Fusion GPS was not hired in April 2016 to research Donald Trump. As shown in the evidence provided by the FISC, politically motivated FBI contractors were already doing surveillance and spy operations. The Clinton campaign through people like Rodney Joffe (cutout) already knew everything about the Trump campaign. They were monitoring everything by exploiting their FBI relationship and the Perkins Coie location for portal access to the database.
However, after the NSA alerts in/around March 9th, 2016, and particularly after the April 18th shutdown of contractor access, the Clinton Team and DOJ/FBI needed Fusion GPS to create a legal albeit ex post facto justification for the pre-existing surveillance and spy operations. Fusion GPS gave them that justification in the Steele Dossier.
That’s why the FBI small group, which later transitioned into the Mueller team, were so strongly committed to and defending the formation of the Steele Dossier and its dubious content. The Steele Dossier was used in lieu of the ‘Woods File‘, underpinning the justification for the Carter Page Title-1 surveillance warrant.
The Steele Dossier, an outcome of the Fusion contract, contains two purposes: (1) the cover-story and justification for the pre-existing FBI surveillance operation (protect Obama and Clinton); and (2) facilitate the FBI counterintelligence operation against the Trump campaign (assist Clinton and Perkins Coie).
An insurance policy would be needed.
The Steele Dossier becomes the investigative virus the FBI wanted inside the system. To get the virus into official status, they used the FISA application as the delivery method and injected it into a Title-1 search warrant against Carter Page. The FBI already knew Carter Page (he worked for the CIA); essentially Carter Page was irrelevant, what they needed was the FISA warrant and the Dossier in the system {Go Deep}.
The Obama FBI needed Fusion GPS to give them a plausible justification for already existing political surveillance and spy operations. Fusion-GPS gave them that justification and evidence for a FISA warrant with the Steele Dossier.
Ultimately that’s why the Steele Dossier was so important; without it, the FBI would not have the tool that Mueller needed to continue the investigation of President Trump. In essence by renewing the FISA application in 2017, despite them knowing the underlying dossier was junk, the FBI was keeping the surveillance gateway open for Team Mueller to exploit later on.
Additionally, without the Steele Dossier the DOJ and FBI are naked with their surveillance (FISA-702) abuse as outlined by John Ratcliffe.
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In this video NSA Director Mike Rogers explains how he was notified of what was happening and what he did after the notification. WATCH:
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Knowing that Perkins Coie and the FBI were working together on this targeting operation, makes everything else make sense.
However, the involvement of official government agencies like NSA Admiral Mike Rogers, creates a paper trail. Search query logs, notifications to Mike Rogers, notifications to the FISA Court, notifications to FBI officials of the suspension of contractor access, and subsequent FISA court opinions like the 99-pages from Rosemary Collyer, all of it creates an internal trail of government documents that tell the story.
It’s those documents that become a risk to the people who operate within the system. In this example of government documents, the trail outlines the targeting of Donald Trump and that was what he continued to ask the ODNI, DOJ and FBI to release.
Frustrated by the lack of action, in March 2022 Donald Trump filed a massive civil lawsuit against the Clinton campaign and everyone involved in this targeting operation. [SEE LAWSUIT HERE (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157/gov.uscourts.flsd.610157.1.0.pdf)] “Acting in concert, the Defendants maliciously conspired to weave a false narrative that their Republican opponent, Donald J. Trump, was colluding with a hostile foreign sovereignty,” the president states.
“Under the guise of ‘opposition research,’ ‘data analytics,’ and other political stratagems, the Defendants nefariously sought to sway the public’s trust. They worked together with a single, self-serving purpose: to vilify Donald J. Trump,” says one segment of the lawsuit.
All of the claims within the filing are substantiated by documents outlining the history of the events. I’m not sure any defendant is going to be successful getting themselves out of the target zone on the lawsuit. The suit alleges “racketeering” and a “conspiracy to commit injurious falsehood,” among other claims.
The basis for the evidence against the entire crew? That was likely part of the assembly of evidence, the declassified documents at the heart of the battle, that were targeted by the DOJ and FBI raid. That’s where we enter, Part III.
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mountain_jim
15th August 2022, 17:23
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1559224810982346752?s=20&t=zgBnsqq3yCaQEXM6hKG9kg
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https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1559234728175321092?s=20&t=oesL0yVHRL1634SyHh_EAg
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mountain_jim
15th August 2022, 20:21
https://twitter.com/JohnBasham/status/1559268106878476294?s=20&t=Cea_M5ZMlHHCmuSH5N9-Dw
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https://twitter.com/JohnBasham/status/1559130222468923392?s=20&t=shLHP1DlobrPzUYUIRkmnw
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If they actually indict Trump my response will be: Someone please get me another bag of popcorn.
I no longer allow anything to phase me on this journey.
We've been through hell and back. We're battle hardened.
Our faith has been tested.
And yet here we still stand.
God woke us up for a reason that being the calm during this storm is an integral reason, nay, the essential reason.
I've become so determined to believe that nothing can stop what is coming that nothing will shake me period. If you feel the same way then I commend you. I refuse to budge. God put that faith in me and I guard it like a treasure.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/doj-opposes-release-underlying-affidavit-fbi-mar-lago-raid
DOJ Opposes Release Of Underlying Affidavit For FBI Mar-A-Lago Raid
BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, AUG 15, 2022 - 04:45 PM
The Department of Justice has opposed the release of the underlying FBI affidavit used to justify last week's raid on Mar-a-Lago because they claim "it would serve as a roadmap to the government’s ongoing investigation, providing specific details about its direction and likely course, in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps," according to Politico's Kyle Cheney.
The fact that this investigation implicates highly classified materials further underscores the need to protect the integrity of the investigation," the DOJ said in a Monday court filing.
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That said, the DOJ says it intends to unseal additional documents related to the raid.
< more at link >
Inversion
15th August 2022, 21:57
They're warning of increased threats to law enforcement. This could be a staged prelude to a scripted civil war/martial law.
What is Hegelian Dialectic (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77434-What-is-Hegelian-Dialectic&highlight=Hegelian+dialectic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL4s1awvQnw
blogtalkradio (https://www.blogtalkradio.com/smoore2944/2015/05/02/hegelian-dialectic-and-martial-law-in-the-usa)
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pyrangello
15th August 2022, 22:04
New Dr. Jim Willie: FBI Raid on Mar-a-Lago, the Coming Economic Collapse
https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2022/08/new-dr-jim-willie-fbi-raid-on-mar-a-lago-the-coming-economic-collapse-2533029.html
Listen to the first 20 minutes, oh man the slants coming in on what may have happened, coincides with what bill just posted above.
https://rumble.com/v1fzm75-dr.-jim-willie-81322.html
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mountain_jim
15th August 2022, 23:18
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-now-federal-bureau-intimidation
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/08/15/the_fbi_is_now_the_federal_bureau_of_intimidation_148044.html
The FBI Is Now the Federal Bureau of Intimidation
COMMENTARY
By Frank Miele
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Nothing symbolizes the decline of the American republic better than the weaponization of justice that we saw last week when the FBI raided the home of former President Trump.
And nothing better represents the divide that now exists between Democrats and Republicans than the fact that some people still have faith in the FBI.
Aren’t they paying attention? Heck, that's like a citizen of the old Soviet Union saying they had faith in the KGB – yeah, to crush dissent and lock up opponents of the regime in a Siberian gulag.
The evidence is overwhelming. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is now the Federal Bureau of Intimidation. Or more appropriately, the Federal Intimidation Bureau, whose acronym would spell out FIB, as in the Big Lie. Face it, nothing the FBI has said for the last six years since they joined with the Democratic Party to invent the Russia collusion hoax can be taken seriously.
Is there any need to go through the whole laundry list of lies and fabrications that the FBI, with the aid and comfort of the Justice Department, has foisted on the American public?
You can start with the extraordinary 2016 press conference when FBI Director James Comey detailed crimes committed by presidential candidate Hillary Clinton related to her improper use of a private email account to store classified material. Moments after saying she had broken the law, Comey announced with a straight face that “no reasonable prosecutor” would ever bring a case against her. Yeah, because she was a Democrat!
A couple months later, Comey set up President Trump’s National Security adviser, Gen. Michael Flynn, by sending agents to interview him about his supposed contacts with Russians.
“What's our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?" wrote Bill Priestap in a memo before the interview. Priestap was counterintelligence director at the FBI, and it became evident later that the agency’s goal was indeed to get him fired – and more importantly to get Trump impeached, fired, humiliated, you name it.
Comey himself admitted that the FBI targeted Flynn and chose not to approach him through the White House legal counsel, but informally with a direct phone call to arrange an interview. As Comey later told a reporter, it was “something I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more … organized administration.”
What about the FBI’s abuse of Carter Page and George Papadopoulos? The agency made up evidence in support of subpoenas, FISA warrants, whatever it took to get the desired result. What about the FBI and Department of Justice targeting parents at school boards as “domestic terrorists” because they demanded that their elected representatives actually represent them? What about the unilateral rescission of executive privilege and attorney-client privilege wherever it would have protected President Trump and his advisers?
The purpose of all of this activity, along with the raid at Mar-a-Lago, was to intimidate not just Trump, but also his supporters. Anyone other than Donald Trump would have given up long ago. Who could possibly withstand the power of the state marshaled against you for six long years – through multiple FBI investigations, through two impeachments, through relentless persecution of your children and your friends and family?
Finally, what about the double standard that allows Democrats and their government allies to go unpunished for a multitude of sins? Notwithstanding Attorney General Merrick Garland’s feigned indignation on behalf of the bureau, what about the FBI agents who lied repeatedly during the Trump-Russia investigation, sometimes under oath. Even more stunning has been the FBI’s monumental failure to investigate presidential son Hunter Biden, even though it received his laptop with extensive incriminating evidence of criminal activity in 2019.
Even when the laptop was made public during the 2020 presidential election, the FBI stood silent and thus gave tacit approval to the cynical Democratic Party talking point that the laptop was somehow a GOP dirty trick. It would be interesting to know if the FBI had anything to do with the letter signed by 51 national security experts, falsely claiming that the laptop was “Russian disinformation”! Maybe, like Comey before him, FBI Director Chris Wray thought he could “get away with it.”
That is certainly the only explanation for the raid on the president’s personal residence. It was not appropriate. It was not reasonable. It had no precedent. The FBI claims that the pre-dawn raid by more than 30 armed agents was for the purpose of collecting presidential papers that the National Archive wanted. The Washington Post says that Trump reportedly had documents with nuclear secrets on them, and the legacy media went ballistic with the story. But wait a minute, isn’t that the same Washington Post that won a Pulitzer Prize for collaborating with the FBI to invent the Russia collusion hoax?
Don’t believe a word from either the Washington Post or the FBI. Trump had been cooperating with the National Archive and had already turned over 15 boxes of documents, all of which he could have made a claim to legally possess. If they wanted papers turned over, they could have gone through Trump’s lawyers. No, they wanted the spectacle. They wanted the sizzle. They wanted the headlines.
This wasn’t about the rule of law; it was about the rule of the schoolyard. Bullies get what they want through force and intimidation, and there is no reason for any of us to believe that the raid had any purpose other than to intimidate Donald Trump into backing down from his plans to run for president in 2024.
Essentially what the FBI was saying is “We know where you live, and we aren’t afraid to come for you.” They even rifled through Melania Trump’s closet, as if she might have been hiding top-secret documents in her hat box. When do we find out they also spent an hour sorting through her lingerie?
This is sickening, no matter how much MSNBC and the Washington Post want you to think you can still trust the FBI. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me over and over and over again, and I must be a Democrat.
Frank Miele, the retired editor of the Daily Inter Lake in Kalispell Mont., is a columnist for RealClearPolitics. His new book, “What Matters Most: God, Country, Family and Friends (https://www.amazon.com/What-Matters-Most-Country-Heartland/dp/1732963355/),” is available from his Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B07L4FWTDY?_encoding=UTF8&node=283155&offset=0&pageSize=12&searchAlias=stripbooks&sort=author-sidecar-rank&page=1&langFilter=default#formatSelectorHeader). Visit him at HeartlandDiaryUSA.com or follow him on Facebook @HeartlandDiaryUSA or on Twitter or Gettr @HeartlandDiary.
mojo
16th August 2022, 01:54
a little humor...
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ExomatrixTV
16th August 2022, 17:50
FBI trying ‘Anything’ to keep Trump out of White House:
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Comedian Alex Stein says the FBI’s efforts to raid the former US president Donald Trump’s estate shows they will do “anything” to keep him out of the White House. Mr Stein said this is the third chance to try and impeach Mr Trump. “They are so afraid of Donald Trump,” he told Sky News Australia.
‘This Is An Assault’: Trump Slams FBI For Stealing His Passports
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Donald Trump has torched the FBI for “stealing” three of his passports during its raid of his Mar-a-Lago home last week, labelling the actions as an “assault on a political opponent”.
ExomatrixTV
16th August 2022, 18:10
'It's ALL A LIE': Trump Jr. calls out 'DISGUSTING' FBI raid:
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Far-left tactics being used against his father — including the FBI raid of the former president’s Mar-a-Lago home — is all part of an ‘intimidation package,’ says Donald Trump Jr. He tells Glenn why recent Biden Administration claims about that FBI raid are ‘lies,’ and he calls out the shocking lack of transparency from the federal government: ‘What's going on is absolutely disgusting.’ Plus, Don Jr. explains what Americans MUST do at the ballot box this fall to stop the dangerous, far-left ‘games’ that currently are being played…
ExomatrixTV
16th August 2022, 18:29
Trump's Passport Taken & FBI Raid Affidavit Being Sealed: Lawyer Reaction!:
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ExomatrixTV
17th August 2022, 12:58
Victor Davis Hanson: FBI Should Be Broken Up, Agents Moved to Other Departments
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/Z/g/e/o/Zgeof.gaa.mp4
source (https://rumble.com/v1g4zoz-preview-victor-davis-hanson-fbi-should-be-broken-up-agents-moved-to-other-d.html)
full interview (https://www.theepochtimes.com/victor-davis-hanson-fbi-should-be-broken-up-agents-moved-to-other-departments_4666789.html) :dog:
onawah
17th August 2022, 18:00
The Endgame--Mike Adams
8/17/22
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/the-endgame-per-mike-adams/
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"Mike Adams says that the goal of the foreign agents controlling the Biden Regime is to provoke Trump supporters with their Mar-a-Lago raid and their imminent indictment of Trump, so that Federal Agents can stage a false flag and blame it on them.
Mike says that during the false flag event, the Feds plan to feign weakness and become “overwhelmed” by MAGA grannies and thereby be “forced” to call in UN forces, staffed mainly with CCP troops, who would then come in and disarm the US population.
On Tuesday, Project Veritas released a leaked document from within the Department of Homeland Security:
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...which is propagating their side of this narrative to their personnel, warning of a heightened security risk for federal agents from Domestic Violent Extremists [DVEs] because of the Mar-a-Lago raid and the upcoming election.
The document reads, “The threats we have observed, to date, underscore that DVEs [Domestic Violent Extremists] may view the 2022 midterm election as an additional flashpoint around which to escalate threats against perceived ideological opponents, including federal law enforcement personnel…
“In recent years, DVEs adhering to different violent extremist ideologies have coalesced around perceptions of government overreach and election fraud to threaten and conduct violence. As a result of recent activities, we assess that potential targets of DVE violence moving forward could include law enforcement, judicial officials, individuals implicated in conspiracy theories, and perceived ideological opponents who challenge their worldview.
The leaked material concludes with a warning to agents that the public should not know this information.
“Information contained in this intelligence bulletin is for official use only. No portion of this bulletin should be released to the media, the general public, or over nonsecure Internet servers. Release of this material could adversely affect or jeopardize investigative activities.”
Mike says, “The illegitimate Biden Regime would be combining forces with the UN and NATO and even Communist Chinese troops to go to war with the American People. But in order to get there, they need to provoke violence, which is why we have to say: ‘No violence! Don’t fall for it. Don’t take the bait.’
He continues, “We will be victorious but without resorting to violence and we’re going to talk about today. We’ve got some pretty big news. Some new intel that came in over the weekend. This involves Trump; how he’s going to be indicted under the Espionage Act and we have new information about how the Powers-that-Be are trying to invoke a civil war in the United States and then they would use that to call for United Nations Peacekeeping occupation of the US.
“And those UN troops might be NATO troops from Europe or they might be Chinese troops – that’s right – the People’s Liberation Army wearing blue helmets…
“A lot of news was breaking over the weekend that the very same agents involved in this Mar-a-Lago raid, on Trump’s private residence – well – these are the same FBI agents reportedly involved, who are under criminal investigation by Durham for their role in Russiagate and all the other nonsense and false allegations and fabrications that were leveled against Trump over the last 5, almost 6 years, at this point.
“So, it’s the same group of just law-breaking, corrupt lunatics at the FBI and you know, the American People are kinda sick of it.
“I would just add, Folks, Keep it peaceful…The corrupt FBI wants people to attack the FBI – which, of course, you should not do!”
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ERIC TRUMP: SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS CAPTURED AGENTS “BEHAVING IMPROPERLY”
In an interview with DailyMail.com:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11099205/Eric-Trump-reveals-REALLY-happened-FBI-raid.html
...Eric Trump said that the security cameras at Mar-a-Lago captured FBI agents “behaving improperly” during the raid on former President Donald Trump’s home last week but he said staff refused to turn off the surveillance cameras, as requested by the FBI and they captured agents raiding areas where they weren’t authorized to go.
Over the weekend, Sean Hannity reported that the FBI is now desperately trying to obtain all the surveillance footage. Then on Monday night, Eric told Sean that they have the surveillance footage of the FBI and that they will release it “At the right time.”
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/eric-trump-yes-were-going-to-release-the-footage-yes-they-told-us-to-turn-the-cameras-off/
BIGDICKANON’S CIA FREN SEZ…
Paul Furber is a South African journalist and a former 4Chan moderator who was one of the people who helped bring the Q posts from 4Chan out to the world. Paul also maintains an archive of the 4Chan posts of an alleged CIA source, who is very foul-mouthed and who has some interesting things to say about the FBI raid at Mar-a-Lago, which actually corroborate the claims of Eric Trump and of Mike Adams, though he made these claims several days before they did! The source posted the following [misspellings left as-is]:
[8/8/22] What the CIA planted.
[8/9/22] The CIA planted top secret information at the Trump estate and then alerted the FBI that Trump had taken the material with him when he left office. This goes all the way to the top of both agencies and the White House. They did not realize Trump had the storage areas under surveillance and he has the tapes.
[8/10/22] It was the CIA that planted the evidence it was the FBI who retrieved it. And at the top of theses agencies there is no difference…
[8/11/22] You do know the FISA Court was used by the FBI to place spies and listening devices in Mar-a-Lago. The court was told by the FBI there was a foreign intelligence service working with Trump and the FBI used falsified information provided by Trump foes in the FBI. Same group of clowns that went after Carter Page. Same crap different person.
The Justice Department already has charges ready to go against Trump and this was just to get more evidence. They figure once the indictment is released this issue will fade into the sunset. All the while they hide the Hunter/Joe Biden crime family. Want to get the the bottom of this go view the FISA Warrant and who submitted in and who approved in.
Although this source is highly questionable, his posts with privileged information preceded official public statements and proved to be accurate reflections of the Trump camp’s positions. Also, his advice to look at the person who submitted the FISA Warrant to place spies and listening devices in Mar-a-Lago back in 2017 seems like good advice to me, because, as Eric Trump said, it’s the same clowns all over again.
Intelligence contractor, Tore Maras posting on TRUTHSocial last week said that we need to see the 302s associated with the raid, as these quote, “will tell us WHO gave first person testimony and WHO the FBI agent was,” who ordered the raid.
302s are what the FBI calls the notes they take of conversations with witnesses and which are often key evidence of a possible crime – except in this case, the crime in question may be the FBI raid, itself!
On Monday, the DOJ announced that they would not be releasing any of the affidavits but on Tuesday, Bruce Reinhart, the federal judge in Florida who approved the warrant for the FBI to search former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate has scheduled a Thursday hearing on a motion to unseal the affidavit that prosecutors used to secure it.
Reinhart appears to be extremely partisan, making derogatory posts about Trump on social media, donating thousands of dollars to Barack Obama’s presidential campaign and taking a leave of absence from his post at a local US Attorney’s office 10 years ago to represent and defend employees of convicted pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein after they had received immunity during the probe of the infamous pedophile financier of sex trafficking. By Reinhart’s own admission, he represented Epstein’s pilots; his scheduler, Sarah Kellen; and Nadia Marcinkova, who Epstein once reportedly described as his “Yugoslavian sex slave.”
The Conservative Treehouse weighed in last week that the DOJ wants to seize every last shred of a document from Trump’s term in order to memory hole everything that occurred during Trump’s presidency and to utterly disappear him. This point, again somewhat echoed by BigDickAnon’s CIA Fren:
[8/14/22]: “What is beneath the surface and pointed to in the documents in the public view is the comment that the FBI was after everything Trump had for his term of Presidency and up to the present. Jim Comey and others in the intelligence community are laying a charge of treason against the President and have testified that based on information they have from foreign intelligence services Trump sold the country out to the Russians. The plan is shown in the supporting documents the public will not see. The intelligence groups behind this are the Ukrainians and the British with help from Americans. The allegations will be backed up by evidence created in the Ukraine and planted at Mara largo. In other words the planted material will back up the allegations made in the initial phases of the investigation. Are you not entertained?…
Both the Republican and Democrat Party have united to destroy the country and that destruction is centered in the counter intelligence unit of the FBI. But they have f*ed up enjoy.
[8/15/22]: …The same group of characters behind the previous attacks on Trump are at it again along with the intelligence services in the U.S. England and the Ukraine. Money shipped to the Ukraine for supposed defense purposes were used to fabricate evidence that was planted at Mara Largo."
Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111213-The-planned-takedown-of-America-now-in-full-swing.&p=1512847&viewfull=1#post1512847
mojo
18th August 2022, 03:47
This newest episode of X22 Report is very worthy of a mention as it relates to current events.. At the 45 minute mark it really sunk in about 'We the People.' Just listen there if short on time.
v1draor
mountain_jim
18th August 2022, 15:33
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/old-case-over-audio-tapes-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact
Old case over audio tapes in Bill Clinton's sock drawer could impact Mar-a-Lago search dispute
Judge ruled in 2012 that a president's discretion to declare records "personal" is far-reaching and mostly unchallengeable.
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By John Solomon
When it comes to the National Archives, history has a funny way of repeating itself. And legal experts say a decade-old case over audio tapes that Bill Clinton once kept in his sock drawer may have significant impact over the FBI search of Melania Trump's closet and Donald Trump's personal office.
The case in question is titled Judicial Watch v. National Archives and Records (https://www.judicialwatch.org/)Administration and it involved an effort by the conservative watchdog to compel the Archives to forcibly seize hours of audio recordings that Clinton made during his presidency with historian Taylor Branch.
For pop culture, the case is most memorable for the revelation that the 42nd president for a time stored the audio tapes in his sock drawer at the White House. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/clintons-secrets-in-his-sock-drawer/) The tapes became the focal point of a 2009 book that Branch wrote.
U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington D.C. ultimately rejected Judicial Watch's suit (https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/03/judge-wont-seize-bill-clinton-taylor-branch-audiotapes-116074)by concluding there was no provision in the Presidential Records Act to force the National Archives to seize records from a former president.
But Jackson's ruling — along with the Justice Department's arguments that preceded it — made some other sweeping declarations that have more direct relevance to the FBI's decision to seize handwritten notes and files Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago. The most relevant is that a president's discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will.
"Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion," Jackson wrote in her March 2012 decision, which was never appealed.
"Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records," she added.
You can read the full ruling here: memorandum opinion.pdf (https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-08/memorandum%20opinion.pdf)
The judge noted a president could destroy any record he wanted during his tenure and his only responsibility was to inform the Archives.
As to whether records a president concluded were personal can be forcibly seized after he leaves office, the court concluded it was unreasonable to force NARA to go get the tapes
"Because the audiotapes are not physically in the government's possession, defendant submits that it would be required to seize them directly from President Clinton in order to assume custody and control over them," Jackson noted. "Defendant considers this to be an 'extraordinary request' that is unfounded, contrary to the PRA's express terms, and contrary to traditional principles of administrative law. The Court agrees."
That defendant was the same Justice Department that authorized the raid on Trump's estate. You can read their arguments a decade earlier here:
Hearing Transcript.pdf (https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-08/Hearing%20Transcript.pdf)
Jackson also concluded that a decision to challenge a president's decision lies solely with the National Archives and can't be reviewed by a court. If the Archives wants to challenge a decision, that agency and the attorney general can initiate an enforcement mechanism under the law, but it is a civil procedure and has no criminal penalty, she noted.
The search warrant the FBI enforced sought two types of records: classified materials and records created during the Trump presidency. Trump has been adamant the records he took to Mar-a-Lago were both declassified and deemed personal by him.
Some government lawyers reached out privately to Just the News in recent days questioning the use of the FBI to collect presidential records, citing Jackson's ruling and suggesting it was a civil and not criminal matter where deference to Trump is required by law.
On the classification issue, both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama signed executive orders — which remain in force to this day — declaring that presidents have sweeping authority to declassify secrets and do not have to follow the mandatory declassification procedures all other government officials do.
The Jackson ruling and the declassification powers have left some experts worried the FBI raid was heavy-handed under the current laws.
Kevin Brock, former assistant FBI director for intelligence, told Just the News the bureau's search warrant was overly broad and went beyond what the FBI manual for agents recommended. "Specificity is important in order to protect fourth amendment rights from exuberant government overreach designed to find whatever they can," he told Just the News.
Brock added he did not believe DOJ and FBI had authority to criminalize the retention of presidential records.
The warrant "apparently makes a novel legal assertion that any presidential record kept by a former president is against the law," Brock said. "You have to wonder what the other living former presidents think about that. They have the right and, apparently, clear desire to remain silent."
Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch who was on the losing end of the Clinton sock drawer case, said he believes Jackson's ruling could have a profound impact on the coming legal battles over the Trump search.
"The government, the lawyer for the Archives, said, 'You know what? If documents are in the former President's hands, where they're presumptively personal, we just, you know, we presume they're personal,'" Fitton said.
"The Justice Department previously had told us in response to a question about Bill Clinton: 'Tough luck, it's his.' But they changed their mind for Donald Trump?" he asked. "… The law and court decision suggests that Trump is right. And frankly, based on this analysis, Trump should get every single document they took from him back. It's all personal records."
ExomatrixTV
18th August 2022, 16:10
This newest episode of X22 Report is very worthy of a mention as it relates to current events.. At the 45 minute mark it really sunk in about 'We the People.' Just listen there if short on time.
v1draor
:bump: super well done X22 Episode 2852b video (https://rumble.com/v1gdglf-ep.-2852b-patriot-offensive-destroyed-the-dsdefine-subversionoptics-confirm.html) !!! (159,948+ views in just 1 day already) I highly recommend all Avalonians (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/memberlist.php) to make time for this ... put your phone on "do not disturb" ... go to a place where you are able to listen without anyone disturbing you ... and take & make time for this you will NOT be disappointed!
The sad thing is, that more and more people "have no time" nowadays ... which eventually can lead to our downfall >>> unless people find a way to make time as it will make you see things from a whole different uplifting perspective ... and that can lead to making different more pro-active (uplifting) decisions.
* reading the comments under This X22 Rumble Video (https://rumble.com/v1gdglf-ep.-2852b-patriot-offensive-destroyed-the-dsdefine-subversionoptics-confirm.html) is also very very inspiring! :thumbsup:
x22report.com/about (https://x22report.com/about)
see also 2852a: part 1 (A!) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset&p=1513193&viewfull=1#post1513193) of above video!
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
mountain_jim
18th August 2022, 17:08
Trump referring today to a memorandum on declassification of certain materials related to the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane Investigation (I don't have a linkable image of post yet)
Brian Cates (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/51294)
Now might be a good time to read Devolution - Part 22
The memo @realDonaldTrump is referring to wasn't the only one having to do with declassifying information in connection to the review of intelligence activities relating to the 2016 elections.
https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution-part-20?s=r
(excerpt)
Executive Action
One of the most famous moves Trump made relating to the Russian Collusion Hoax was his Memorandum issued on January 19th, 2021. The day before leaving office, he announced he would be declassifying numerous documents related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation:
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Brian Cates (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/51297)
LOL they are changing the story now in leaks to the press that they had to go to Mar A Lago to seize a cache of documents Trump had been collecting that would prove RussiaGate was a hoax and they didn't want him 'weaponizing' these documents.
IT WAS ALL DECLASSIFIED.
This is what I suspect we're about to find out.
THE FBI RAIDED MAR A LAGO TO SEIZE DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS FROM TRUMP TO KEEP HIM FROM USING THEM IN HIS CIVIL LAWSUIT AGAINST THE RUSSIAGATE PLOTTERS.
later
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1560311145009152000?s=20&t=10WZWTUDT86gYTpd7e0fig
1560311145009152000
mountain_jim
18th August 2022, 20:31
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/08/18/fbi_unit_leading_mar-a-lago_probe_previously_led_russiagate_hoax_848582.html
FBI Unit Leading Mar-a-Lago Probe Earlier Ran Discredited Trump-Russia Investigation
By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations
August 18, 2022
The FBI division overseeing the investigation of former President Trump's handling of classified material at his Mar-a-Lago residence is also a focus of Special Counsel John Durham's investigation of the bureau's alleged abuses of power and political bias during its years-long Russiagate probe of Trump.
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Brian Auten: Discredited over Carter Page spy warrants but still handling sensitive cases.
The FBI's nine-hour, 30-agent raid of the former president's Florida estate is part of a counterintelligence case run out of Washington – not Miami, as has been widely reported – according to FBI case documents and sources with knowledge of the matter. The bureau's counterintelligence division led the 2016-2017 Russia "collusion" investigation of Trump, codenamed "Crossfire Hurricane."
Although the former head of Crossfire Hurricane, Peter Strzok, was fired after the disclosure of his vitriolic anti-Trump tweets, several members of his team remain working in the counterintelligence unit, the sources say, even though they are under active investigation by both Durham and the bureau's disciplinary arm, the Office of Professional Responsibility. The FBI declined to respond to questions about any role they may be taking in the Mar-a-Lago case.
In addition, a key member of the Crossfire team – Supervisory Intelligence Analyst Brian Auten – has continued to be involved in politically sensitive investigations, including the ongoing federal probe of potentially incriminating content found on the abandoned laptop of President Biden's son Hunter Biden, according to recent correspondence (https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/grassley_to_justice_deptfbipoliticalbiasfollowup.pdf)between the Senate Judiciary Committee and FBI Director Christopher Wray. FBI whistleblowers have alleged that Auten tried to falsely discredit derogatory evidence against Hunter Biden during the 2020 campaign by labeling it Russian "disinformation," an assessment that caused investigative activity to cease.
Auten has been allowed to work on sensitive cases even though he has been under internal investigation since 2019, when Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz referred him for disciplinary review for his role in vetting a Hillary Clinton campaign-funded dossier used by the FBI to obtain a series of wiretap warrants to spy on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. Horowitz singled out Auten for cutting a number of corners (https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/03/30/meet_the_russiagate_prober_who_couldnt_verify_anything_in_the_steele_dossier_yet_said_nothing_for_ye ars_769667.html)in the verification process and even allowing information he knew to be incorrect slip into warrant affidavits and mislead the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court.
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Wray: 'A number of' Crossfire agents are still employed but under a cloud.
In congressional testimony (https://www.c-span.org/video/?522068-1/fbi-oversight-hearing&live=)this month, Wray confirmed that "a number of" former Crossfire Hurricane team members are still employed at the bureau while undergoing disciplinary review. In the meantime, Wray has walled off the former Russiagate investigators only from participating in FISA wiretap applications, according to the sources.
Sen. Chuck Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, has asked Wray for copies of recent case files and reports generated by Auten and whether he is included among the team the FBI has assembled to determine which of the seized Trump records fall within the scope of its counterespionage investigation and which fall outside of it.
Some former FBI officials worry that Auten, a top bureau expert on Russia and nuclear warfare, will have a hand in analyzing the boxes of documents agents seized from Trump's home on Aug. 8 to help determine if any of the alleged Top Secret material he kept there might have been compromised, potentially putting national security at risk.
"It is a disgrace that Auten is still even employed by the bureau," said 27-year FBI veteran Michael Biasello. "I would substitute other analysts and agents."
An examination of the bureau agents involved in the Mar-a-Lago raid reveals other connections between them and FBI officials who played key roles in advancing the Russiagate hoax.
Sources told RealClearInvestigations that Jay Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in Justice's national security division, who happens to be a Democratic National Committee donor, has been coordinating the Mar-a-Lago investigation with Alan Kohler, who heads the FBI's counterintelligence division.
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Jay Bratt: Probe coordinator traveled to Mar-a-Lago and met with Trump in early June. Then things got dicey.
Kohler replaced Bill Priestap in that post after Priestap stepped down from the bureau amid criticism of his role in the Russiagate probe. Kohler had worked at FBI headquarters under Priestap, specializing in countering Russian intelligence threats.
Before that, he worked in London as the FBI's liaison with British intelligence and law enforcement. The sources say Kohler was close to Stefan Halper, (https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/03/08/the_curious_case_of_stefan_halper_longtime_zelig_of_american_scandals_who_crossfired_trump_818108.ht ml) an academic and longtime FBI contractor whom the bureau ran as an informant in a failed effort to suborn Trump campaign officials. He also worked closely with Stephen Somma, a lead case agent in the Crossfire Hurricane probe whom Horowitz said was "primarily responsible" for some of the worst misconduct in the FISA warrant abuse scandal. Somma is a counterintelligence investigator in the FBI's New York field office, where he has been reassigned to the China desk.
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Alan Kohler: Said to be close to Russiagate informant Stefan Halper.
In 2019, Kohler was promoted to special agent in charge of the counterintelligence division at the FBI's Washington field Office, where he worked alongside then-assistant agent-in-charge Timothy Thibault, who was reassigned by Wray just days prior to the Mar-a-Lago raid, after whistleblowers raised questions about political bias. They asserted that Thibault, who has taken aim at Trump and Republicans on social media, worked with Auten to falsely discredit evidence of alleged money laundering and other activities against Hunter Biden and prevent agents from investigating them.
The Washington field office's counterintelligence division is now run by Anthony Riedlinger, who previously worked at FBI headquarters as a section chief under Priestap. Some of the agents involved in the raid on Trump's home came from that Washington field office, according to the sources and FBI case documents.
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Timothy Thibault: Said to have worked with Auten to discredit Hunter Biden evidence.
Bratt, the top counterintelligence official at Justice, traveled to Mar-a-Lago in early June and personally inspected the storage facility while interacting with both Trump and one of his lawyers. Trump allowed the three FBI agents Bratt brought with him to open boxes in the storage room and look through them. They left with some documents. After leaving, Bratt made a request to Trump's lawyer for increased security at the facility and asked to see surveillance footage from the security cameras. The lawyer complied with the requests. Months went by before the Justice Department took the politically explosive step of sending FBI agents unannounced to Trump's home, seizing documents, photos, and other items not just from the storage facility but from multiple rooms on the property, including the former president's office.
Former assistant FBI director Chris Swecker said the search warrant that agents obtained is quite wide-ranging. He pointed out that it authorized the seizure of any information in any form related to "national defense information," which he said "does not necessarily include classified material."
"This is a huge, broad search warrant and a huge, broad investigation leveled against the former president," Swecker said.
What's more, he said the physical search of the former president's residence was far more sweeping than first reported and included unsupervised snooping in several dozen bedrooms, as well as numerous storage rooms and closets, including those of the former first lady. FBI agents took numerous boxes and containers of documents and other material, including several binders of photos and even three passports held by the former president.
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The FBI's Mar-a-Lago warrant: One classified file meant an entire box could be seized.
Although Attorney General Merrick Garland has said that the DOJ seeks to "narrowly scope any search that is undertaken, (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/read-merrick-garlands-full-remarks-fbis-search-trumps/story?id=88257832)" details of the warrant reveal agents had the authority to seize entire boxes of records – including those potentially covered by attorney-client privilege and executive privilege – if just a single document inside the container were marked with a classified marking.
Agents were allowed to also seize any containers or boxes "found together with" ones containing classified papers, according to ATTACHMENT B ("Property to be seized") of the warrant. In addition, the FBI agents were given the authority to confiscate "any government and/or presidential records created between Jan. 20, 2017, and Jan. 20, 2021," which covers Trump's full term in office. That meant they were able to take any item related to the Trump administration.
All told, dozens of boxes and containers were removed from Trump's residence, very few of which actually contained classified information, the sources said.
According to Federal Election Commission records, Bratt has given exclusively to Democrats, including at least $800 to the Democratic National Committee. The sources said he is close to David Laufman, whom he replaced as the top counterintelligence official at Justice. An Obama donor, Laufman helped oversee the Russiagate probe, as well as the Clinton email case, which also involved classified information.
A Senate investigator told RCI that Laufman was the "mastermind" behind the strategy to dust off and "weaponize" the rarely enforced statutory relic – the Foreign Agents Registration Act – against Trump campaign officials, a novel legal move that the investigator noted is similar to the department's current attempts to enforce the Presidential Records Act against Trump – which is a civil, not a criminal, statute – by invoking the Espionage Act of 1917.
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David Laufman: "Mastermind" behind the strategy to dust off and "weaponize" the Foreign Agents Registration Act against Trump. Is a similar strategy afoot now?
Laufman signed off (https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2020/06/23/no_evidence_needed_for_collusion_probe_just_an_obscure_pretext_spearheaded_by_this_man_124020.html#! ) on the wiretapping of Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, which the Department of Justice inspector general determined was conducted under false pretenses involving doctored email, suppression of exculpatory evidence, and other malfeasance.
Suddenly resurfacing as a media surrogate for the Justice Department defending the Mar-a-Lago raid, Laufman has been a key source for stories by the Washington Post, CNN, and other outlets.
On CNN, for instance, he claimed the documents seized from Trump's storage were "particularly stunning and particularly egregious," and their discovery "completely validates the government's investigation" into the former president – though he quickly added, "Whether this investigation transforms into an outright criminal prosecution remains to be seen."
Swecker said that there is strong reason to fear that the FBI's counterintelligence division might politicize this case.
"For sure, the FBI has dug themselves into a huge hole because of how they handled the Clinton (email) case and then Crossfire Hurricane and Hunter Biden," Swecker said. "Myself and many of my colleagues think they are treading on very thin ice here."
"Unfortunately," he added, "you can't recuse an entire FBI division."
Patel: 'It's Just Insane'
Former federal prosecutor and Trump administration official Kash Patel said the FBI may have a personal interest – and a potential conflict – in seizing the records stored by Trump.
He noted that Trump in October 2020 authorized (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-s-tweet-total-declassification-russia-docs-not-order-white-n1244022)the declassification of all the investigative records generated from the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane as well as the Clinton email investigation, codenamed "Midyear Exam," and he said that the FBI may have confiscated some of those records in its raid, ensuring they won't be made public. In addition, he said, the agency may be digging for other documents to try to justify, retroactively, their questionable, politically-tinged 2016 opening of the Trump-Russia "collusion" case, which came up embarrassingly short on evidence.
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Kash Patel: "Tragically, the same FBI characters that were involved in Russiagate are the same counterintel guys running this ‘national security investigation' against Trump."
"Tragically, the same FBI characters that were involved in Russiagate are the same counterintel guys running this ‘national security investigation' against Trump," said Patel, who deposed Crossfire Hurricane team members as a former House Intelligence Committee investigator.
Patel noted that the Horowitz report indicated FBI analyst Auten hid exculpatory information about Trump's adviser Page from other investigators and the FISA court, which should be more than enough to keep him at arm's length from other investigations involving Trump.
"And to top it all off, this guy admits [to Horowitz's investigators] he's unrepentant about his role in making up the biggest hoax in election history, and Wray still lets him be a supervisor at the FBI," he said. "It's just insane."
The Justice Department's national security division has ultimate authority over the grand-jury probe of Trump for possible violations of the Espionage Act, including alleged mishandling of classified material – the same statutes invoked in the Clinton email investigation. (In that case, in contrast, the FBI never searched the former secretary of state's Chappaqua, N.Y., mansion, where she set up an unsecured basement server to send and receive at least 110 classified emails and where she also received government documents by fax.)
Former FBI counterintelligence official and lawyer Mark Wauck said he is troubled by signs that the same cast of characters from the Russiagate scandal appears to be involved in the Mar-a-Lago investigation.
"If these people, who were part of a major hoax that involved criminal activity and displays of bias and seriously flawed judgment, are still involved, then that's a major scandal," he said in an interview.
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Brian Cates (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/51303)
The thing people need to focus on like a laser is that Durham already has all the declassified SpyGate/RussiaGate documents.
He got them all over 2 years ago. When they were first declassified.
But since these are declassified documents, there's no reason not to make copies of them. And so Trump has his own stash of these declassified FBI Crossfire Hurricane/Mueller Special Counsel documents for his own use in his civil lawsuit in Florida.
And these goons stupidly raided his house to go in and seize it.
It doesn't stop anything and it's only exposed them.
Let's say it all together now:
THESE PEOPLE ARE STUPID.
mountain_jim
19th August 2022, 15:33
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/paul-sperry-fbi-omitted-documents-references-previous-mar-lago-visits-affidavit-fbi-committed-fraud-court/
Paul Sperry: If FBI Omitted Documents or References to Previous Mar-a-Lago Visits from Affidavit — FBI Committed Fraud on the Court
By Jim Hoft
Published August 18, 2022 at 9:43pm
A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Justice Department to unseal only a portion of the probable cause affidavit to raid President Trump’s home.
The judge is allowing the Justice Department to decide what should be redacted!
A redacted version of the affidavit was ordered to be turned over by next Thursday — a week from today.
The DOJ now has a week to decide how much of this document to release.
The judge who allowed the FBI to raid President Trump’s home donated thousands of dollars to Obama and Democrats.
The DOJ already harassed and subpoenaed for Mar-a-Lago records in June. The Trump team voluntarily handed over the documents.
The FBI also holds a June inventory receipt.
https://gettr.com/post/p1n7vm439ce
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1. Where is the May subpoena for Mar-a-Lago records, and where is the June inventory receipt the FBI would have given Trump lawyers Corcoran & Bobb, who VOLUNTARILY handed over docs from Trump's storage to investigators?
Let's see those docs, along with the affidavit
2. And where is the June subpoena and inventory receipt the FBI would have furnished Trump's lawyers who VOLUNTARILY handed over surveillance footage to investigators?
Let's see those docs too
If these documents or references to them are missing from the affidavit for the August search warrant, then the FBI omitted exculpatory evidence of prior Trump cooperation from the court, which would be a fraud on the court similar to the fraud on the FISA court the FBI committed in the Crossfire Hurricane case
mountain_jim
19th August 2022, 15:46
related
https://americanmind.org/salvo/rogue-agency/
Rogue Agency
Julie Kelly
Whitmer fednapping exposes moral rot of FBI.
Shared hotel rooms. Fake militias. Booze and pot. Planted evidence. Phony bomb makers. Criminal FBI informants. Wife-beating wife-swappers.
No, that’s not the latest iteration of the “X Files” but the real-life drama of the FBI-concocted scheme to “kidnap” Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer in 2020. The better-than-television saga is again unfolding in a Grand Rapids courtroom this month as the Department of Justice retries two men charged with conspiring to kidnap Whitmer right before the 2020 presidential election.
In April, prosecutors failed to win a single conviction in one of the government’s biggest domestic terror investigations in decades. A jury acquitted two men—Brandon Caserta and Daniel Harris—on every count after defense attorneys successfully argued their clients were entrapped by the FBI.
The jury did not reach a verdict for two other men; Adam Fox, the alleged ringleader of the plot, and Barry Croft now face a second trial as prosecutors desperately attempt to save face just as the DOJ’s credibility is cratering. (Two other defendants pleaded guilty and are witnesses for the government.)
Shocking headlines in October 2020 blared the alleged details of the conspiracy: white supremacists tied to local militias loyal to Donald Trump planned to abduct Whitmer from her summer cottage and possibly kill her, the public was told. The day after several men were arrested in an FBI sting, Whitmer claimed her life had been endangered and Trump was to blame. ”When our leaders meet with, encourage, or fraternize with domestic terrorists, they legitimize their actions and they are complicit,” Whitmer said in a video message on October 8, 2020. “When they stoke and contribute to hate speech, they are complicit.”
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris frequently mentioned the kidnapping plot on the stump in the final weeks of the 2020 campaign as evidence as to why the president was unfit for office; news outlets gave the plot wall-to-wall coverage.
Reporting on the kidnapping story fizzled after Election Day. And after BuzzFeed (yes BuzzFeed) published a bombshell investigation exposing the FBI’s deep involvement, including the use of at least a dozen undercover FBI agents and informants, interest in the story among once-enraged politicians and journalists evaporated.
But that didn’t stop defense attorneys representing six men facing federal kidnapping charges from digging into what really happened. And what they uncovered is one of the most egregious cases of FBI entrapment and election interference in the bureau’s history. “The government’s agents actively planned and coordinated its efforts to induce the defendants to engage in incriminating behavior and statements, even going so far as designing the objective and structural components of the conspiracy alleged in the indictment,” defense attorneys wrote.
Anatomy of a Plot
Starting in March 2020, the FBI hired an informant named Dan Chappel, an Iraq war veteran and U.S. Postal Service truck driver reportedly alarmed by social media chatter related to Michigan’s harsh pandemic lockdowns. Working under the nickname “Big Dan,” he stitched the muddled group together over a period of a few months. His primary target was Adam Fox, at the time living in the dilapidated cellar of a vacuum repair shop without running water or a toilet in a Grand Rapids strip mall.
“Big Dan” visited Fox and others at their homes, took them out to eat, and drove them to various excursions in the Midwest while secretly recording every interaction. He talked to Fox, who viewed Chappel as a father figure since he had none, on a daily basis, sometimes several times a day. On a few occasions, Chappel offered Fox a credit card with a $5,000 limit to buy firearms, ammunition, or other supplies needed for the kidnapping plot, Chappel testified this week, but Fox declined each time.
At one meeting, Chappel proposed shooting rounds into the official mansions of several governors, including Whitmer. He also suggested firing bullets into Whitmer’s vacation cottage and making it look like a hunting accident.
None of his targets took the bait.
His main FBI handlers, Jayson Chambers and Henrik Impola, working out of the Detroit FBI field office, directed Chappel’s every move. In the summer of 2020, Chambers advised Chappel to lure a man in Virginia to plan a similar operation against Governor Ralph Northam. “Mission is to kill the governor specifically,” Chambers instructed Chappel.
For about seven months’ work, the FBI paid Chappel about $60,000 in cash and prizes including a smart watch, a laptop computer, and new tires for his vehicle. In December 2020, a few months after the men were arrested, the FBI handed Chappel $23,540 in cash as a bonus for a mission accomplished.
Sparing no expense, the FBI deployed numerous assets to assist Chappel. Another FBI informant, a man named Steve Robeson, pretended to head the Wisconsin chapter of the Patriot Three Percenters, a fake militia created by the FBI. Robeson made Fox the head of the Michigan chapter of the imaginary group. (Chappel was later sworn in as commanding officer of the FBI’s bogus militia, which had a corresponding Facebook page also created by the FBI.) “His role within the investigation has ranged from arranging meetings and providing conference rooms to coordinating [field training] for the defendants to attend, and transporting weapons, defendants and explosives across the country,” defense attorneys wrote in March 2022. “Robeson is a, or in most cases the only, direct link that the defendants have to the alleged conspiracy because of his actions, coordination, and planning on behalf of the government.”
The week after nationwide rioting in the aftermath of George Floyd’s death, Robeson hosted a national “militia” conference in suburban Columbus on June 6, 2020 and invited Fox and Croft to attend; the FBI leveraged rage over the Floyd riots and lockdowns to induce the defendants to make inflammatory comments and threats which were recorded and fed in real time to the FBI. Robeson hosted field training camps in Wisconsin, gatherings in Ohio and Delaware later that summer, and a surveillance trip to Whitmer’s upstate Michigan vacation cottage in September.
Everything was paid for by the FBI.
Robeson had more secrets. Not only was he a longtime FBI informant who worked out of numerous FBI field offices, he’s a convicted felon several times over “with a rap sheet stretching back to the early 1980s that includes fraud, assault, and sex with a minor,” BuzzFeed reported. While working the Whitmer escapade, Robeson committed at least two other crimes, according to the government. Prosecutors earlier this year accused Robeson of acting as a “double agent” and threatened to charge him before the April trial. Robeson did not testify after he announced he would assert his Fifth Amendment rights. (He won’t testify in the new trial, either.)
Robeson and another FBI informant, Jenny Plunk, became close with Barry Croft, who has been on the FBIs radar since 2019 for his “anti-government, anti-law enforcement” social media posts, the government alleges. Plunk pretended to be head of the Tennessee chapter of the FBIs fake militia group.
Robeson and Plunk often smoked pot with Croft while recording the impaired conversations to be used against him. In July 2020, according to testimony by an FBI agent last week, Plunk shared the same hotel room with Croft during a weekend excursion in Wisconsin. Under cross examination by Croft’s public defender, the agent admitted he had never before heard of such an arrangement between informant and target.
And either Plunk or Robeson repackaged a bag of alleged explosive materials that Croft brought to that meeting from his home in Delaware. After a meeting in Michigan, Plunk put the repackaged bag in Croft’s truck, which became part of the evidence seized by agents when Croft was arrested.
By late summer 2020, Plunk was given an important task by the FBI: prevent the group from splintering. Still without any plan to kidnap Whitmer, and facing growing discord between targets including Croft, Plunk was instructed to “keep working to solve the differences in the group,” by her FBI handler. “Show them they were brought together by Croft and he has good ideas. Show them the good ideas Croft brought.”
The FBI introduced three undercover FBI agents into the operation to up the ante, one of whom pretended to be an explosives expert. “Red” met the group in Michigan in September 2020 and brought along a video showing how he could build a bomb that would blow up a large vehicle.
The video was produced by the FBI.
The confected FBI plot involved blowing up a bridge outside of Whitmer’s vacation cottage, killing her security detail, abducting her from the house, putting her on a boat, driving the boat to the middle of Lake Michigan where she would be abandoned or taken across the raging lake in the middle of autumn to Wisconsin. And Adam Fox, the homeless guy with no money or resources or bathroom, was responsible for the plan, the government continues to allege.
The trial—expected to wrap next week after the judge took the rare step of limiting the time for defense counsel to cross examine government witnesses—won’t include testimony from one of the lead FBI investigators in the case. Richard Trask, who helped prepare the FBIs case for trial, was fired last summer after he was arrested for assaulting his wife in a drunken rage following a swingers’ party in Kalamazoo.
But the FBI honcho responsible for engineering and executing the hoax was not fired. In fact, shortly after FBI agents arrested the suspects, Steven D’Antuono, head of the Detroit FBI field office at the time, was promoted by FBI Director Christopher Wray to run the Washington D.C. FBI field office. D’Antuono is leading the criminal investigation into January 6, an event now mired in legitimate suspicion that bad actors working for the feds helped incite what happened that day.
Regardless of the trial’s outcome, the FBI must answer for this entrapment operation. Two innocent men spent 18 months in jail before they were released. Barry Croft and Adam Fox, if acquitted this month, will have spent nearly two years in jail.
The only individuals who deserve to be behind bars are the FBI officials, agents, and informants culpable for this shameful abuse of power that interfered in a presidential election, unfairly smeared Donald Trump and his supporters, wasted millions in federal and state resources, and destroyed the lives and families of innocent men. That’s the only imaginable happy ending to this sad farce.
mountain_jim
20th August 2022, 17:46
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ExomatrixTV
21st August 2022, 01:39
Anti-Trump FBI Squad Put In Charge Of Mar-A-Lago Raid:
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Theories abound regarding the real reason Donald Trump’s Florida home was raided by the FBI, who seized boxes and boxes of documents while searching Trump’s safe and even Melania’s quarters. But one indication might be that the same tactical unit that carried out the raid was also responsible for the Russiagate investigation that turned up bupkis on Trump, so now those same agents are back for another bite at the apple. Did they think they’d find the REAL Russiagate documents? Or maybe documents showing their malfeasance during Trump’s time in office? Jimmy and The DIve host Jackson Hinkle discuss why it’s so suspicious that notably anti-Trump agents would be tasked with the Mar-a-Lago raid.
7he5ource
21st August 2022, 02:34
Trump admits ??? to hacking Hillary's emails using Russian mob-ties ... because she was the democratic leader this is paramount to Nixon sending in thugs to raid the files of democratic HQ. Only in a virtual way.
Trump also stated publicly before election that Hillary is a criminal ... this isn't slander but once broadcast it is libel which is criminal not civil [where i live]
So Trump could have been ejected as a runner for a criminal act.
Later ... they said trump though impeached cannot be removed from office
but he alludes to having used Russian spies to hack the emails, which [using an enemy nations hackers] is treason
still punishable by death [last i heard]
now he is crying that FBI illegally searched his house, did they get that idea from trump searching [illegally] Hillary's emails?
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 10:45
Trump admits ??? to hacking Hillary's emails using Russian mob-ties ... Nonsense. (A stronger word might be used!) Of course he doesn't.
:focus:
Ratszinger
21st August 2022, 12:19
Trump admits ??? to hacking Hillary's emails using Russian mob-ties ... because she was the democratic leader this is paramount to Nixon sending in thugs to raid the files of democratic HQ. Only in a virtual way.
Trump also stated publicly before election that Hillary is a criminal ... this isn't slander but once broadcast it is libel which is criminal not civil [where i live]
So Trump could have been ejected as a runner for a criminal act.
Later ... they said trump though impeached cannot be removed from office
but he alludes to having used Russian spies to hack the emails, which [using an enemy nations hackers] is treason
still punishable by death [last i heard]
now he is crying that FBI illegally searched his house, did they get that idea from trump searching [illegally] Hillary's emails?
DJT never admitted any such thing! Listen I'm not the biggest fan of the guy and honestly I always disliked him personally, mostly because of how he treated women just to be honest but he is without any doubt a victim here of one of the most viscious and fear laden attacks I've ever seen. Obviously none of these dirt bags are going tor really admit to the public what it is they actually know about each other but there has to be more to this than just what the public is getting. I beleive the underlying network of crime behind most of what is going on will be staggering to comprehend if we ever get that far into this. In the art of war it's been said that it will look like they have him in a check mate. It will be dire and then he turns it all around on it's head. Something is coming and building more everyday. I think we all feel it now. When this comes to a head and it all pops it's going to be historic.
7he5ource
22nd August 2022, 21:28
Trump admits ??? to hacking Hillary's emails using Russian mob-ties ... because she was the democratic leader this is paramount to Nixon sending in thugs to raid the files of democratic HQ. Only in a virtual way.
Trump also stated publicly before election that Hillary is a criminal ... this isn't slander but once broadcast it is libel which is criminal not civil [where i live]
So Trump could have been ejected as a runner for a criminal act.
Later ... they said trump though impeached cannot be removed from office
but he alludes to having used Russian spies to hack the emails, which [using an enemy nations hackers] is treason
still punishable by death [last i heard]
now he is crying that FBI illegally searched his house, did they get that idea from trump searching [illegally] Hillary's emails?
DJT never admitted any such thing! Listen I'm not the biggest fan of the guy and honestly I always disliked him personally, mostly because of how he treated women just to be honest but he is without any doubt a victim here of one of the most viscious and fear laden attacks I've ever seen. Obviously none of these dirt bags are going tor really admit to the public what it is they actually know about each other but there has to be more to this than just what the public is getting. I believe the underlying network of crime behind most of what is going on will be staggering to comprehend if we ever get that far into this. In the art of war it's been said that it will look like they have him in a check mate. It will be dire and then he turns it all around on it's head. Something is coming and building more everyday. I think we all feel it now. When this comes to a head and it all pops it's going to be historic.
A quick Google search turns up many source hits about the emails. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-asked-russia-to-find-clintons-emails-on-or-around-the-same-day-russians-targeted-her-accounts
However as to the raid, from my study it isn't the first time Trump was searched. The FBI investigated his ties to [Russian] gangsters in his Casino days, he wasn't charged. This is decades before his election campaign. Using these search words --------- FBI investigated trump casino for money laundering ------ I find a few references to the ties Trump had in business as for my view of his "virtue" in business it's more about the company kept than indictments or convictions .
And I watched the campaign while running a detailed investigation into his life.
I "WATCHED" him on TV say "Hillary is a criminal" this raises alarm bells for me! She hasn't been convicted, what is the "gold standard" for calling someone a criminal.
INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY is the legal standard. Trump violated this. Is libel a criminal case in the US?
QUOTE Although libel or defamation is now primarily a civil claim, it once was primarily a criminal offense, prosecuted by the government and punishable by imprisonment or a fine.
SO because of my age and country LIBEL IS CRIMINAL therefore by calling Hillary a criminal the accuser becomes criminal.
I'm not anti-trump, but I was surprised no one said HEY you can't say that on TV.
The FBI isn't new in Trump's life Casinos isn't a good reputation in business.
I'm sure Americans know about illegal immigration to USA from Mexico and I support a wall or even military force to stop it.
BUT ---- Who knew that Trump wanted to build a Trump hotel in Mexico [Baja] and violated so many laws [in mmx] he is [still I think] wanted in Mexico to stand trial on a litany of charges. These were POLICE charges for breaking Mexican law. Im away from my discs with those inks BUT there remain taxation charges and conflict charges and multiple lawsuits for what investors consider a swindle. https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/investigators-probe-charge-against-trump/
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trumps-conflicts-interest-mexico/
So long short ... While in Mexico I heard on Radio the Mexican Government had a warrant for Trump. It was in papers at the time, and the rest remains intact on the net.
So was the FBI justified in the Mar a Lago raid ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Y E S !
And how many under-dog supporters have stated they believe RICH DON'T GET SPECIAL TREATMENT under law.
Then if this applies to an ex-president billionaire the FBI was justified.
Why didn't they search congressmen's homes, Hillary's, Pelosi's, maybe Bill Gates for taxation violations in the Gates Foundation?
Politics.
Cutting to legality, I see legal justification for a search of Trumps house other ex-presidents and corporate wealthy.
TargeT
22nd August 2022, 22:23
I "WATCHED" him on TV say "Hillary is a criminal" this raises alarm bells for me! She hasn't been convicted, what is the "gold standard" for calling someone a criminal.
INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY is the legal standard. Trump violated this. Is libel a criminal case in the US?
QUOTE Although libel or defamation is now primarily a civil claim, it once was primarily a criminal offense, prosecuted by the government and punishable by imprisonment or a fine.
SO because of my age and country LIBEL IS CRIMINAL therefore by calling Hillary a criminal the accuser becomes criminal.
I support this 100%, the discovery proccess on any Libel case would be very very interesting; especially since the investigation into hillary's email server told us she was guilty but didn't have intent or something (which is incorrect, intent means nothing when you have violated federal statutes).
if the above posts are any indication of your "inteligence analysis" I think you should put a bit more work into references and fact collection.
7he5ource
22nd August 2022, 22:46
I "WATCHED" him on TV say "Hillary is a criminal" this raises alarm bells for me! She hasn't been convicted, what is the "gold standard" for calling someone a criminal.
INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY is the legal standard. Trump violated this. Is libel a criminal case in the US?
QUOTE Although libel or defamation is now primarily a civil claim, it once was primarily a criminal offense, prosecuted by the government and punishable by imprisonment or a fine.
SO because of my age and country LIBEL IS CRIMINAL therefore by calling Hillary a criminal the accuser becomes criminal.
I support this 100%, the discovery proccess on any Libel case would be very very interesting; especially since the investigation into hillary's email server told us she was guilty but didn't have intent or something (which is incorrect, intent means nothing when you have violated federal statutes).
if the above posts are any indication of your "inteligence analysis" I think you should put a bit more work into references and fact collection.
TRUMP CLAIMS CALL FOR RUSSIA TO HACK CLINTON EMAILS WAS JUST “A JOKE”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/trump-russia-emails-joke-cpac-speech
That's a quite a joke! Is Trump laughing?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/trump-russia-clinton-emails.html
I can't seem to find ANY news network that didn't report on Trump's involvement in Hillary's emails.
Could the FBI raid be connected ????
Nixon was impeached for breaking into democratic files,
Trump's impeachment came after a formal House inquiry found that he had solicited foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election to help his re-election bid, and then obstructed the inquiry itself by telling his administration officials to ignore subpoenas for documents and testimony.
Trump apparently was similar except Nixon didn't ask for help.
Hillary and Putin had bad blood for ages!
[I don't like that but support fair process]
IS it possible the search is connected to suspicion of treason?
Acting in concert with a foreign [enemy?] nation for political gain?
Things look bad not only for Trump but for the USA and NATO unless there is good mediation between east and west.
If FBI had any cause to search based on a national security breach [regardless of good intention] ppl must realize it's all over with this raid.
It's not over for Trump and supporters, it's a mess that cannot be cleaned up now.
Political stability is lost in USA and by default in NATO.
I remember reports of how Germany filled ships with their gold and shipped it back to Germany during Trump's rants that Germany wasn't paying their share.
Leaving the FED with no gold and USA bankrupt.
I suspect Trump may have made deals with Russia [which I support] but if any of that were ever leaked it means horrible results for USA.
Putin moving west is in my view an indication that restraints have been removed. Or he thinks they have.
I think the FBI raid is connected to all I've said.
Luckily non has really leaked yet, but I think the cracks are showing.
Legally the FBI has had legal cause to search his home for a long time, we might ask not if it's right or wrong but why it took so long.
Literally to the day he announced a new bid for presidency.
Trump Thought He Had a Nuclear Deal With Putin. Not So Fast, Russia Said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/us/politics/trump-russia-nuclear-deal.html
Trump says he has no financial interests in Russia. Here's a run-down of the decades his businesses have spent trying make his mark there.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-business-financial-ties-2018-11
TargeT
22nd August 2022, 23:07
TRUMP CLAIMS CALL FOR RUSSIA TO HACK CLINTON EMAILS WAS JUST “A JOKE”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/trump-russia-emails-joke-cpac-speech
That's a quite a joke! Is Trump laughing?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/us/politics/trump-russia-clinton-emails.html
I can't seem to find ANY news network that didn't report on Trump's involvement in Hillary's emails.
Could the FBI raid be connected ????
Nixon was impeached for breaking into democratic files,
Funny how you avoid posting his actual quote,, which was this:
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump proclaimed. He added, “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
The context of which is related to Hilary's email server being deleted by her incompetent admin that posted on Reddit asking how to permanently delete emails and what software to use (aka, criminal distruction of public records).
Your stance is that he was calling for russia to "hack" an email server that had already been wiped clean?
I think your bias is showing......
Trump's impeachment came after a formal House inquiry found that he had solicited foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election to help his re-election bid, and then obstructed the inquiry itself by telling his administration officials to ignore subpoenas for documents and testimony.
Trump apparently was similar except Nixon didn't ask for help.
Hillary and Putin had bad blood for ages!
[I don't like that but support fair process]
You're referencing the impeachment based on "russiagate" which has been proven to be completely false for a few years now... is that it?
Also, I think you need to spend a bit more time with Watergate, that was a pretty complex situation.
IS it possible the search is connected to suspicion of treason?
Acting in concert with a foreign [enemy?] nation for political gain?
Things look bad not only for Trump but for the USA and NATO unless there is good mediation between east and west.
If FBI had any cause to search based on a national security breach [regardless of good intention] ppl must realize it's all over with this raid.
It's not over for Trump and supporters, it's a mess that cannot be cleaned up now.
Political stability is lost in USA and by default in NATO.
Where is NATO headquarted, who puts the most money and assets into it... why do you think it's not just the US by another name?
also, if the FBI found anything it would be all over the news, as they haven't and very likely omited several key facts I think you will find this "raid" is going to backfire strongly against the political weaponization of the FBI (and it's already begun).
I remember reports of how Germany filled ships with their gold and shipped it back to Germany during Trump's rants that Germany wasn't paying their share.
Leaving the FED with no gold and USA bankrupt.
Huh?? ok... so when was Ft Knox last audited?
Trump Thought He Had a Nuclear Deal With Putin. Not So Fast, Russia Said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/14/us/politics/trump-russia-nuclear-deal.html
Trump says he has no financial interests in Russia. Here's a run-down of the decades his businesses have spent trying make his mark there.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-business-financial-ties-2018-11
how are those relivant to anything?
if your speculation is correct, then this will be solved quickly due to this development:
Former President Trump filed a lawsuit against the Justice Department on Monday in which he asked a federal judge to appoint a 'special master' watchdog to review documents seized from his Florida home as part of an investigation into the removal of records from the White House.
"To date,the government has failed to legitimize its historic decision to raid the home of a President who had been fully cooperative," reads the civil complaint, titled Trump v. United States Government.
.......
"Particularly given the intense public and historical interest in an unprecedented search of a former President’s residence, the Government has not yet shown that these administrative concerns are sufficient to justify sealing," wrote Judge Bruce Reinhart, giving the DOJ until Noon on Thursday to explain why portions of the document should remain hidden from public view.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-sues-doj-over-mar-lago-raid
7he5ource
23rd August 2022, 00:17
any bias is THE NEW YORK TIMES and i watched trump on tv claim '''it was a joke'''
i think it's your own bias showing here as i've never voted in my life, told my mom in 1971 that i wouldn't vote as i saw elections as fake [i have a thread on this examining 4000 yrs of fake elections] https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119198-Conspiracy-THEORY&p=1513360#post1513360 with reference to another thread titled ''politics is for stupid people'' and a 12 yr old who linked the geology of presidents all related.
so my research spans 53 yrs of experience and thousands of yrs research .
i stated no bias as my post you quoted looks at the legality of the search not politics. politics serves well to divide ppl don't think everyone is a participant.
i said on legal grounds the search seems legit as it would be for Hillary bankers and others.
so to indicate trump would be exempt is bias
that's what i said.
i think you misunderstood my words.
don't paint my words as political im neither for or against any politician
politics from etymological root polite or a pretense or act fools engage in.
the truth isn't politically correct, nor political in nature.
if i were FBI i would have NO PROBLEM STORMING ANY POLITICIANS HOUSE
this includes many non-politicians too.
im not sorry for trump
i HEARD him say [as you quoted] ''it was a joke''
but he isn't laughing
i see them all as already in jail trapped on a dying [prison] planet with all their groupies supporters and membership ...
was the warrant legal?
of course it was
as with hillary , joey, billy, and the whole bunch.
lock em ALL up
and strike a match too.
just4u
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119324-LIST-of-USA-Politicians-with-Criminal-Records&p=1513858#post1513858
some people seem unaware that to enter politics there is an initiation process
as stated in my cons-piracy thread ... the purpose of elections before technological age was mainly '''data-mining''' to see who thinks what '''profiling''' and to tag dissidents.
now with tech every time you use tech you are data-mined, profiled, and tagged.
it so simple now my friend, people are doing it to themselves!
rest assured i have no interest in those who use politics.
only intel operations interest me.
trump has stepped into this court, and hasn't yet imagined the depth to which he is involved.
Ratszinger
23rd August 2022, 01:05
any bias is THE NEW YORK TIMES and i watched trump on tv claim '''it was a joke'''
i think it's your own bias showing here as i've never voted in my life, told my mom in 1971 that i wouldn't vote as i saw elections as fake [i have a thread on this examining 4000 yrs of fake elections] https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119198-Conspiracy-THEORY&p=1513360#post1513360 with reference to another thread titled ''politics is for stupid people'' and a 12 yr old who linked the geology of presidents all related.
so my research spans 53 yrs of experience and thousands of yrs research .
i stated no bias as my post you quoted looks at the legality of the search not politics. politics serves well to divide ppl don't think everyone is a participant.
i said on legal grounds the search seems legit as it would be for Hillary bankers and others.
so to indicate trump would be exempt is bias
that's what i said.
i think you misunderstood my words.
don't paint my words as political im neither for or against any politician
politics from etymological root polite or a pretense or act fools engage in.
the truth isn't politically correct, nor political in nature.
if i were FBI i would have NO PROBLEM STORMING ANY POLITICIANS HOUSE
this includes many non-politicians too.
im not sorry for trump
i HEARD him say [as you quoted] ''it was a joke''
but he isn't laughing
i see them all as already in jail trapped on a dying [prison] planet with all their groupies supporters and membership ...
was the warrant legal?
of course it was
as with hillary , joey, billy, and the whole bunch.
lock em ALL up
and strike a match too.
just4u
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119324-LIST-of-USA-Politicians-with-Criminal-Records&p=1513858#post1513858
some people seem unaware that to enter politics there is an initiation process
as stated in my cons-piracy thread ... the purpose of elections before technological age was mainly '''data-mining''' to see who thinks what '''profiling''' and to tag dissidents.
now with tech every time you use tech you are data-mined, profiled, and tagged.
it so simple now my friend, people are doing it to themselves!
rest assured i have no interest in those who use politics.
only intel operations interest me.
trump has stepped into this court, and hasn't yet imagined the depth to which he is involved.
To me, you do seem biased against Trump to be perfectly honest and if Hillary thought she had a case against him for liable that is up to her to pursue. To my knowledge she has not. However, Trump is actively involved in a case against Hillary that is still an active case. 🚨FACTS MATTER FOLKS🚨 Read carefully ⬇️
✔️ On March 24th President Trump sued Hillary Clinton for false Russia claims and collusion.
➡️ Trump vs. Clinton (2:22 CV-14102)
✔️ On April 6th the original judge recused himself from the case therefore replacing himself with none other than corrupt Judge Bruce Reinhardt. Judge Reinhart remained on this case all the way from April 26th to June 22nd.
✔️ On June 22nd Judge Reinhardt suddenly recused himself from the case. (28 U.S. Code 455 - Disqualification of justice, judge or magistrate judge)
✔️ On August 4th, President Trump submitted a motion to DENY the request for a dismissal of the case by Hillary Clinton and team.
In other words, Hillary Clinton asked for President Trumps lawsuit to be dismissed. She knows if the lawsuit proceeds, the insurmountable evidence of her collusion and spying will prove her guilt and collusion. (That’s putting it nicely)
✔️ August 8th was the most recent entry on this case. It is STILL AN ACTIVE CASE against Hillary Clinton.
The following day after the request was denied by Trumps team, the Ex-judge on this case Judge Bruce Reinhardt issued a search warrant for a raid on President trumps personal residence at Mar-a-Lago.
✔️🚨 Judge Bruce Reinhardt is a former Obama donor AND former defense attorney for J͟e͟f͟f͟e͟r͟y̲ E͟p̲s͟t͟e͟i͟n͟s͟ Pilots and others connected to his island!
✔️ The FBI refused to allow anyone to observe the raid including Trumps legal team who wanted to ensure nothing would be planted by the FBI as they have been known to do. No lawyers were allowed to supervise from a distance. After a significant and difficult effort, the FBI did finally allow Trumps Lawyers to visually review the warrant in hand but did not allow them to have a copy. (Sounds legitimate right….not corrupt at all).
After all it’s not like the FBI should be looking into Hunter and Joe Biden for knowingly colluding with foreign countries such as Russia, Ukraine or China) for profit and using presidential power. That only scratches the surface. As a matter of fact, the FBI holds ALL the proof and evidence on Hunters laptop 💻 but somehow can’t seem to find the time to take a glance at it. They are too busy with false flags on President Trump in an effort to distract you and stop him from running again.
Look at the state of our country folks. Says it all!
At what point will you realize a coincidence isn’t just a coincidence anymore.
Satori
23rd August 2022, 01:07
Was the warrant legal? Versus. Was the warrant obtained legally?
Yes, the warrant was legal. That is why Trump’s people on the scene abided by it. Trump no doubt required they do so and they probably did not need to be told.
No, the warrant was not obtained legally. What the DOJ/FBI did, and failed to do, to obtain the warrant, violated civil law, if not criminal law. At a minimum, Trump’s civil rights were violated. This is because the wrongdoers violated clearly established law governing standards applicable to obtaining a lawful search warrant.
This is to say nothing of what they did in the course of the search and seizure at the residence. Or since then.
Trump has a Bivens lawsuit available to him. This is true as a matter law, not politics.
Edit. I just saw that the WSJ has an opinion piece today titled: “The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis”. I have not read it as I do not subscribe to the WSJ
TargeT
23rd August 2022, 02:45
i think it's your own bias showing here as i've never voted in my life,
so my research spans 53 yrs of experience and thousands of yrs research .
ok, well.. I love logical fallacies (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/) as much as the next person... but I'm not sure how you not voting nor your "53 years and thousands of years research" are relevant either, just seems like dodging facts for an "appeal to authority (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority)" precursed by a "straw man (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman)".. both of which are not useful in finding out what's actually happening.
don't paint my words as political im neither for or against any politician
politics from etymological root polite or a pretense or act fools engage in.
the truth isn't politically correct, nor political in nature.
I agree, Politics can be / is currently a leverage of tribalism... I'm not saying you are political, I'm saying you are incorrect. (also, Etymology (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/etymology) is my passion, I'd love to discuss the origins of phrases and words etc... but I think you might not be using that word correctly)
if i were FBI i would have NO PROBLEM STORMING ANY POLITICIANS HOUSE
this includes many non-politicians too.
Hopefully based on probable cause at least? Maybe a scrap or two of evidence? what happened to "innocent until proven guilty (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119226-FBI-agents-raid-Trump-s-Florida-home&p=1513849&viewfull=1#post1513849)"?
only intel operations interest me.
Well, I suppose you are talking to the correct individual.
AFAIK I'm the only (titled by some of this forum's members) spook here. (I can do the appeal to authority thing too!)
I dunno, you asked me to review your post history... I did, what happened between Aug1 and Aug3? you became very interested in politics and not your usual posting patterns... have you reviewed my post history (haha, i'd never ask that... far too many examples of who I am and how I think (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/search.php?searchid=26744501)..........)
Bill Ryan
23rd August 2022, 06:36
I just saw that the WSJ has an opinion piece today titled: “The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis”. I have not read it as I do not subscribe to the WSJI don't subscribe to the WSJ either, but I found it. The WSJ article itself is here (https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-trump-warrant-had-no-legal-basis-mar-a-lago-affidavit-presidential-records-act-archivist-custody-classified-fbi-garland-11661170684).
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The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis
A former president’s rights under the Presidential Records Act trump the statutes the FBI cited to justify the Mar-a-Lago raid.
By David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey
Aug. 22, 2022 12:51 pm ET
Wonder Land: The first Trump presidency began with the Russian collusion narrative. Now we have its offspring—the classified-documents narrative, which like its predecessor, is heavy on insinuation and light on facts.
Was the Federal Bureau of Investigation justified in searching Donald Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago? The judge who issued the warrant for Mar-a-Lago has signaled that he is likely to release a redacted version of the affidavit supporting it. But the warrant itself suggests the answer is likely no—the FBI had no legally valid cause for the raid.
The warrant authorized the FBI to seize “all physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§793, 2071, or 1519” (emphasis added).
These three criminal statutes all address the possession and handling of materials that contain national-security information, public records or material relevant to an investigation or other matters properly before a federal agency or the courts.
The materials to be seized included “any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021”—i.e., during Mr. Trump’s term of office. Virtually all the materials at Mar-a-Lago are likely to fall within this category. Federal law gives Mr. Trump a right of access to them. His possession of them is entirely consistent with that right, and therefore lawful, regardless of the statutes the FBI cites in its warrant.
Those statutes are general in their text and application. But Mr. Trump’s documents are covered by a specific statute, the Presidential Records Act of 1978. It has long been the Supreme Court position, as stated in Morton v. Mancari (1974), that “where there is no clear intention otherwise, a specific statute will not be controlled or nullified by a general one, regardless of the priority of enactment.” The former president’s rights under the PRA trump any application of the laws the FBI warrant cites. . . .
Nothing in the PRA suggests that the former president’s physical custody of his records can be considered unlawful under the statutes on which the Mar-a-Lago warrant is based. Yet the statute’s text makes clear that Congress considered how certain criminal-law provisions would interact with the PRA: It provides that the archivist is not to make materials available to the former president’s designated representative “if that individual has been convicted of a crime relating to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records of the Archives.”
Nothing is said about the former president himself, but applying these general criminal statutes to him based on his mere possession of records would vitiate the entire carefully balanced PRA statutory scheme. Thus if the Justice Department’s sole complaint is that Mr. Trump had in his possession presidential records he took with him from the White House, he should be in the clear, even if some of those records are classified.
In making a former president’s records available to him, the PRA doesn’t distinguish between materials that are and aren’t classified. That was a deliberate choice by Congress
ExomatrixTV
23rd August 2022, 13:47
The Biden Admin Was Directly Involved with the Mar-a-Lago FBI Raid:
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It was coordinating with DOJ and the archives as early as May: https://archive.ph/GciN3
Ratszinger
23rd August 2022, 13:48
None of the records Trump took can be considered classified. By his act of taking them he declassified them period! This from a Law Professor at Harvard. There is nothing here that is to do anything to hurt Trump! It is only helping him and it has become a massive springboard of money inflow to his campaign! Amercans on both sides of the aisle are pissed off! You should see the republican primary lines forming today in Oklahoma!!
mountain_jim
23rd August 2022, 15:11
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/biden-white-house-facilitated-dojs-criminal-probe-against-trump?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjs
Biden White House facilitated DOJ's criminal probe against Trump, scuttled privilege claims: memos
by John Solomon
"I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege," acting National Archivist Debra Steidel Wall wrote Trump's team in May.
Long before it professed no prior knowledge of the raid on Donald Trump's estate, the Biden White House worked directly with the Justice Department and National Archives to instigate the criminal probe into alleged mishandling of documents, allowing the FBI to review evidence retrieved from Mar-a-Lago this spring and eliminating the 45th president's claims to executive privilege, according to contemporaneous government documents reviewed by Just the News.
The memos show then-White House Deputy Counsel Jonathan Su was engaged in conversations with the FBI, DOJ and National Archives as early as April, shortly after 15 boxes of classified and other materials were voluntarily returned to the federal historical agency from Trump's Florida home.
By May, Su conveyed to the Archives that President Joe Biden would not object to waiving his predecessor's claims to executive privilege, a decision that opened the door for DOJ to get a grand jury to issue a subpoena compelling Trump to turn over any remaining materials he possessed from his presidency.
The machinations are summarized in several memos and emails exchanged between the various agencies in spring 2022, months before the FBI took the added unprecedented step of raiding Trump's Florida compound with a court-issued search warrant.
The most complete summary was contained in a lengthy letter dated May 10 that acting National Archivist Debra Steidel Wall sent Trump's lawyers summarizing the White House's involvement.
"On April 11, 2022, the White House Counsel's Office — affirming a request from the Department of Justice supported by an FBI letterhead memorandum — formally transmitted a request that NARA provide the FBI access to the 15 boxes for its review within seven days, with the possibility that the FBI might request copies of specific documents following its review of the boxes," Wall wrote Trump defense attorney Evan Corcoran.
That letter revealed Biden empowered the National Archives and Records Administration to waive any claims to executive privilege that Trump might assert to block DOJ from gaining access to the documents.
"The Counsel to the President has informed me that, in light of the particular circumstances presented here, President Biden defers to my determination, in consultation with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, regarding whether or not I should uphold the former President's purported 'protective assertion of executive privilege,'" Wall wrote. "... I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege."
The memos provide the most definitive evidence to date of the current White House's effort to facilitate a criminal probe of the man Joe Biden beat in the 2020 election and may face again as a challenger in 2024. That involvement included eliminating one of the legal defenses Trump might use to fight the FBI over access to his documents.
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee and the committee's likely chairman if the GOP win control of Congress in November, called the Biden White House's involvement and privilege waiver "amazing news" with implications for past and future presidents.
"Look, the left, they've been out to get President Trump because President Trump's a threat to the clique, to the swamp, to the bureaucracy, to the deep state," Jordan told the "Just the News, Not Noise" television show Tuesday night. "Whatever term you want to use. And they all know it.
"That's why they were out to get him before he was in office, and they set up the whole Russia collusion hoax. It's why they tried to get him while he was in office. And of course, obviously they continue to do so now that he's left. It's just never going to end."
Alan Dershowitz, the famed Harvard law professor emeritus and lifelong Democrat, reviewed some of the correspondence at Just the News' request. He said the Biden White House's eagerness to waive Trump's claims of privilege could have future implications for generations of presidents to come.
"I was very surprised," Dershowitz said after reading the text of Wall's letter. "The current president should not be able to waive the executive privilege of a predecessor, without the consent of the former president. Otherwise, [privilege] means nothing. What president will ever discuss anything in private if he knows the man who beat him can and will disclose it."
While some courts have upheld the notion of a successor president waiving privilege for a predecessor, Dershowitz said the matter remains to be decided definitively by the U.S. Supreme Court.
"The best thinking is that an incumbent president cannot waive the right of the previous president," he said in a phone interview with Just the News. "It would make a mockery of the whole notion of privilege."
In her letter, Wall told Corcoran the Biden administration believes a Watergate era ruling suggested Biden had the authority to waive Trump's privileges.
"The Supreme Court's decision in Nixon v. Administrator of General Services, 433 U.S. 425 (1977), strongly suggests that a former President may not successfully assert executive privilege 'against the very Executive Branch in whose name the privilege is invoked,'" she wrote. That ruling, however, was issued under an earlier predecessor law for presidential records and in the immediate aftermath of one of America's worst presidential scandals.
The correspondence reviewed by Just the News also provides a contemporaneous window into what the National Archives (NARA) found when it first got boxes of documents returned from Trump's compound in February 2022. Those boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration as Trump was leaving the White House on Jan. 20, 2021.
"In its initial review of materials within those boxes, NARA identified items marked as classified national security information, up to the level of Top Secret and including Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Program materials," Wall wrote. "NARA informed the Department of Justice about that discovery, which prompted the Department to ask the President to request that NARA provide the FBI with access to the boxes at issue so that the FBI and others in the Intelligence Community could examine them."
The correspondence and emails show Corcoran had a phone conversation with Su about privilege claims in the spring, with Trump's lawyers raising concerns that some of the materials were subject to Trump's claims of executive privilege.
"We have requested the ability to review the documents," Corcoran wrote National Archives General Counsel Gary Stern on April 29, copying Su on the letter. "That review is necessary in order to ascertain whether any specific document is subject to privilege. We would respectfully request that you restrict access to the documents until we have had the opportunity to review the documents and to consult with President Donald J. Trump so that he may personally make any decision to assert a claim of constitutionally based privilege."
But a dozen days later, Wall informed Corcoran that she had the blessing of Biden to overrule those privilege claims and share all materials requested by the DOJ and FBI.
"The White House Counsel's Office acquiesced in an extension of the production date to April 29, and so advised NARA," she wrote. "In accord with that agreement, we had not yet provided the FBI with access to the records when we received your letter on April 29, and we have continued to refrain from providing such access to date.
"It has now been four weeks since we first informed you of our intent to provide the FBI access to the boxes so that it and others in the Intelligence Community can conduct their reviews. Notwithstanding the urgency conveyed by the Department of Justice and the reasonable extension afforded to the former President, your April 29 letter asks for additional time for you to review the materials in the boxes.
"Accordingly, I have consulted with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel to inform my 'determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege.' ... I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege."
Within a couple of weeks of Wall's letter to Corocoran, the DOJ sent a grand jury subpoena to Trump's team demanding the return of any remaining national security documents, which precipitated a voluntary visit by the FBI to Mar-a-Lago on June 3, when agents picked a small amount of materials Trump's lawyers said were responsive to the subpoena
Two months later, the FBI escalated again, seeking a search warrant to raid the Trump estate on Aug. 8.
ExomatrixTV
23rd August 2022, 17:24
Biden Knew The Whole Time?
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/F/G/8/t/FG8tf.gaa.mp4
source (https://rumble.com/v1h21b3-biden-knew-the-whole-time-ep.-1836-the-dan-bongino-show.html)
mountain_jim
23rd August 2022, 18:05
sometimes you just need to laugh (to keep from crying)
https://twitter.com/stevenvoiceover/status/1561478752802320384?s=20&t=undYG01A7MMt1mVzLADcbA
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ExomatrixTV
24th August 2022, 14:59
The Mar-a-lago FBI Raid Classified Material Astroturf Leak:
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mountain_jim
24th August 2022, 16:50
@intheMatrixxx
Forwarded from
TheStormHasArrived17 (https://t.me/mgshowchannel/31354)
Funny how the fake news always debunks themselves if you search hard enough.
Here is an excerpt from an NPR article from 2019 admitting that President Trump has “absolute power” when it comes to classified secrets.
“He therefore has the authority to decide unilaterally what will be disclosed, what will be declassified and what will not.”
If 45 says something is declassified, it’s declassified. Period.
Full article: https://tinyurl.com/ymvt9238
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https://www.npr.org/2019/09/05/758038714/can-president-trump-really-tweet-a-highly-classified-satellite-photo-yep-he-can
NATIONAL SECURITY
Can President Trump Really Tweet A Highly Classified Satellite Photo? Yep, He Can
September 5, 20195:27 PM ET
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/09/05/ap_19243153034473_custom-c1ad60c7bc2267a1eae7e449ed88497dde3d33d4-s1200-c85.webp
This image tweeted by President Trump is believed to have come from a highly classified U.S. reconnaissance satellite known as USA 224.
Donald J. Trump Twitter account via AP
The first thing Melissa Hanham did when she saw President Trump's tweet last week was take a screen grab.
"My reaction was to immediately save the image to my phone just in case it got taken down," she says.
The wording on the tweet was cryptic: "The United States of America was not involved in the catastrophic accident during final launch preparations for the Safir [space launch vehicle] Launch at Semnan Launch Site One in Iran," the president said. "I wish Iran best wishes and good luck in determining what happened at Site One."
But it was the photo that left Hanham, a satellite imagery expert, gobsmacked. The day before, on Aug. 29, a rocket had exploded at the Imam Khomeini Space Center in northern Iran. Trump's tweet contained an incredibly sharp image of the aftermath. Visible were burned-out vehicles and lettering around the edge of the pad that couldn't be seen clearly in commercial satellite photos.
Hanham, deputy director of the Open Nuclear Network in Vienna, says she has seen lots of images over the years but never anything like this. "It was so crystal clear and high-resolution that I did not believe it could have come from a satellite," she says.
There are still few details about how the image made its way to Trump's Twitter account. The president received his daily intelligence briefing at 11:30 a.m. ET, about two hours before the tweet.
CNBC reported that Trump was shown the photo during the briefing. A flash visible in the center of the image suggests Trump or someone else took a photo of the original image — which Hanham says might have been the intelligence briefing slide. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence referred questions about the image to the White House.
"We had a photo and I released it, which I have the absolute right to do," Trump told reporters late Friday.
Such a disclosure of classified information by anyone but the president would end in jail time, says Bruce Klingner (https://www.heritage.org/staff/bruce-klingner), a former CIA officer now at the conservative Heritage Foundation.
"Anyone else who revealed it would be sitting in Leavenworth prison, serving out a prison term," Klingner says.
But in the world of classified secrets, the president of the United States has absolute power. "The classification system for national security information is not based in a law, it derives from the president's own status as commander in chief of the armed forces," says Steven Aftergood (https://fas.org/expert/steven-aftergood/), who studies government secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists.
The rules about classification are laid out in very detailed presidential orders as part of a system run by the executive branch, and Trump is the boss.
"He therefore has the authority to decide unilaterally what will be disclosed, what will be declassified and what will not," Aftergood says.
Past presidents have used this power sparingly. President Bill Clinton authorized the release of some satellite images during the Balkans conflict in the 1990s. In 2003, Secretary of State Colin Powell used satellite photos in his speech at the U.N. to build a case for war with Iraq.
But Aftergood thinks the images in those instances were deliberately blurred to hide what U.S. satellites could really do. There's a good reason for that: "These satellites are in the billion-to-multibillion-dollar range; they are worth more than their weight in gold," he says. The photos they produce are so good, they're at the limits of the laws of physics — it's the best picture you can possibly take from space. Aftergood thinks the president's decision to tweet what looks like an unblurred photo of the Iranian accident was a bad idea.
"In chess terms, he has sacrificed a bishop for a pawn or less," he says.
"What the president did is pretty sporty," says Rebeccah Heinrichs with the conservative Hudson Institute. But she also thinks it was done deliberately. The text of the tweet was clearly written by or vetted by someone with an intelligence background, Heinrichs says, noting the use of abbreviations such as SLV for "space launch vehicle." And she thinks the tweet sends a powerful message to Iran.
"He is communicating that we are carefully watching and that we are using restraint, and that if we wanted to do more, we could," she says.
At least some experts agree. "Nations are not suddenly going to say, 'Oh no, we had no idea they could watch us this closely!' " says one senior satellite imaging expert who asked to remain anonymous because of the furor around Trump's tweet. "Yes, there is clearly more detail, but not a whole lot of useful information beyond what the best commercial imagery provides."
But Aftergood thinks Iran will be able to learn from the image. A group of independent satellite spotters says it has already determined which U.S. satellite took the picture. USA 224, one of America's most advanced spy satellites, passed over the launch site shortly after the accident.
Now that the satellite has been pinpointed, Aftergood worries that Iran can evade it. For example, he says, in the runup to an Indian nuclear weapons test in 1998, India tracked U.S. satellites and made sure not to move any major equipment while they were overhead. The U.S. intelligence community was caught off guard by the test when it happened.
And Klingner, the former CIA officer, notes that Iran wasn't the only one that saw the tweet.
"Our adversaries — Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Syria and others — will be looking at this, trying to figure out how good our capabilities are," Klingner says. He worries they just might learn something.
mountain_jim
24th August 2022, 17:06
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-mar-lago-warrant-had-no-legal-basis-constitutional-lawyers
https://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-mar-a-lago-warrant-had-no-legal-basis-constitutional-lawyers_4685637.html
FBI Mar-a-Lago Warrant Had 'No Legal Basis': Constitutional Lawyers
Authored by Jack Phillips via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),
Two constitutional lawyers who worked in the Bush and Reagan administrations say that the warrant used to search former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence had no legal basis.
A former president’s right under the Presidential Records Act supersedes the statutes the Department of Justice and FBI used to carry out the raid earlier this month, wrote David Rivkin Jr. and Lee Casey, who both served under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush.
“The judge who issued the warrant for Mar-a-Lago has signaled that he is likely to release a redacted version of the affidavit supporting it. But the warrant itself suggests the answer is likely no—the FBI had no legally valid cause for the raid,” they wrote in the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday.
Earlier this month, federal Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart unsealed the warrant and property receipt, showing that it allowed FBI agents to obtain all “physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§793, 2071, or 1519.”
And the materials that could be seized are “any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021,” which encompasses all of Trump’s presidential term.
As a result, the two scholars said that “virtually all the materials at Mar-a-Lago are likely to fall within this category” but “federal law gives Mr. Trump a right of access to them.”
“His possession of them is entirely consistent with that right, and therefore lawful, regardless of the statutes the FBI cites in its warrant,” Rivkin and Casey wrote.
“Those statutes are general in their text and application. But Mr. Trump’s documents are covered by a specific statute, the Presidential Records Act of 1978,” they said, adding that a Supreme Court decision in 1974 affirms their argument. “The former president’s rights under the [Presidential Records Act] trump any application of the laws the FBI warrant cites.”
The 1978 law, which was passed two years after former President Richard Nixon resigned, “lays out detailed requirements for how the archivist is to administer the records, handle privilege claims, make the records public, and impose restrictions on access,” they added. “Notably, it doesn’t address the process by which a former president’s records are physically to be turned over to the archivist, or set any deadline, leaving this matter to be negotiated between the archivist and the former president.”
In their opinion piece, the authors stated that because the FBI and Justice Department were satisfied with an additional lock being installed on a Mar-a-Lago storage room, the federal agencies “could and should have sought a less intrusive” method than a search warrant.
Read more here (https://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-mar-a-lago-warrant-had-no-legal-basis-constitutional-lawyers_4685637.html)...
mountain_jim
24th August 2022, 22:18
https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1562304248091664384?s=20&t=lC4rWxRgNl16ajYfL-rEqg
1562304248091664384
TargeT
24th August 2022, 23:40
Was the warrant legal? Versus. Was the warrant obtained legally?
Yes, the warrant was legal. That is why Trump’s people on the scene abided by it. Trump no doubt required they do so and they probably did not need to be told.
No, the warrant was not obtained legally. What the DOJ/FBI did, and failed to do, to obtain the warrant, violated civil law, if not criminal law. At a minimum, Trump’s civil rights were violated. This is because the wrongdoers violated clearly established law governing standards applicable to obtaining a lawful search warrant.
This is to say nothing of what they did in the course of the search and seizure at the residence. Or since then.
Trump has a Bivens lawsuit available to him. This is true as a matter law, not politics.
Edit. I just saw that the WSJ has an opinion piece today titled: “The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis”. I have not read it as I do not subscribe to the WSJ
What is your take on the PRO-SE move? I wonder if there is a discrimination case for his (apparent) lack of availability to counsel? Just another tactic or a tell that the system is completely biased (and a bit terrifying).
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https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1562304248091664384?s=20&t=lC4rWxRgNl16ajYfL-rEqg
1562304248091664384
So,,, commit crimes with a blue shirt on = your good.
Act in a way blue shirt wearing guys don't like = get raided.
good times.
Satori
25th August 2022, 01:12
Was the warrant legal? Versus. Was the warrant obtained legally?
Yes, the warrant was legal. That is why Trump’s people on the scene abided by it. Trump no doubt required they do so and they probably did not need to be told.
No, the warrant was not obtained legally. What the DOJ/FBI did, and failed to do, to obtain the warrant, violated civil law, if not criminal law. At a minimum, Trump’s civil rights were violated. This is because the wrongdoers violated clearly established law governing standards applicable to obtaining a lawful search warrant.
This is to say nothing of what they did in the course of the search and seizure at the residence. Or since then.
Trump has a Bivens lawsuit available to him. This is true as a matter law, not politics.
Edit. I just saw that the WSJ has an opinion piece today titled: “The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis”. I have not read it as I do not subscribe to the WSJ
What is your take on the PRO-SE move? I wonder if there is a discrimination case for his (apparent) lack of availability to counsel? Just another tactic or a tell that the system is completely biased (and a bit terrifying).
ZQX3jz3Vzxw
https://twitter.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1562304248091664384?s=20&t=lC4rWxRgNl16ajYfL-rEqg
1562304248091664384
So,,, commit crimes with a blue shirt on = your good.
Act in a way blue shirt wearing guys don't like = get raided.
good times.
I’ve only watched a part of this video. I stopped because I do not think these guys are correct. I doubt very much that Trump filed any lawsuit pro se. Show me the court endorsed, filed lawsuit with his signature line as a pro se litigant. Then I’ll have a conversation about this. Meanwhile, this is pure unsubstantiated hearsay.
There are many, many qualified lawyers who would represent Trump. Sure, there are many law firms that would not allow an attorney in the firm to bring the case in to the firm, because firm management is woke and/or not aligned with Trump politically or otherwise. But there are many firms that would jump on this case. He does not need to proceed pro se.
On a personal note, Naomi Wolfe first asked me to be her lawyer in the lawsuits that she and Dailyclout currently have pending re the poisonous jab. I was honored she asked me to do so. But, regrettably, I had to decline. Because I knew that the management of my firm would nix it on the spot. I wanted very much to take the matter on, but I knew it was not possible and that I would be wasting her time to try. I also knew that she would find qualified lawyers that were enthusiastic and wanted to help her in pursuit of a very important and highly just cause. She did.
Trump would likewise have no trouble finding qualified lawyers. If there is any such lawsuit, I’m sure he did and that he is not pro se.
I call this story BS.
TargeT
25th August 2022, 02:55
Trump would likewise have no trouble finding qualified lawyers. If there is any such lawsuit, I’m sure he did and that he is not pro se.
I call this story BS.
I agree, I have not had as much time as I used to; I should have spent more researching.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-donald-trump-representing-himself-lawsuit-against-doj-1736230
ExomatrixTV
25th August 2022, 11:56
Of Course, RINO Pence Defends FBI Despite Long List Of Its Failures:
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Media Malfeasance: Pence Defends Politicized FBI Despite Long List Of Its Failures
Featured: Brian Stelter îs OUT, update on FBI raid, immigration invasion, Pence defense vs. reality, Liz Cheney's delusions, and CDC reckoning.
ExomatrixTV
25th August 2022, 19:17
The Absurdity of the Trump Mar-a-Lago Raid:
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Ratszinger
25th August 2022, 19:32
It is absurd and what is funny is that the left don't even appear to realize what they've opened the door to! Trump when elected can now do the same to Biden and Harris and Pelosi and Schiff for brains and more because of this making a mochary of the executive privelege. None of them have it now. I don't think they even realize what will be coming to bite their own in the behind now after this move by this admin
ExomatrixTV
25th August 2022, 22:13
"NO CONSPIRACY": Trump Vindicated by Barr's Russiagate Memo
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archive.ph/PII1W (https://archive.ph/PII1W)
norman
25th August 2022, 22:20
This is going to get interesting . . . .
Media FLIPS, sets stage to blame Trump for widespread VACCINE INJURIES and deaths
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Satori
25th August 2022, 23:39
This is going to get interesting . . . .
Media FLIPS, sets stage to blame Trump for widespread VACCINE INJURIES and deaths
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While this hypothesis is plausible, it will fall flat on its face and fail, just as all other strategies of Biden’s global handlers have failed.
The only people who will believe this bogus assertion are those who already will vote against Trump. Trump’s supporters—who vastly out number the woke who may have actually voted for Biden and even more so the fascists criminals who lie to the woke—will not fall for this crap.
“MAGA” may to some extent not be happy with Trump’s heretofore position on the Covid jab criminal scam about the jab, but most of the patriots, MAGA or not, realize the whatever his faults the alternatives are woefully worse and utterly unacceptable. They also understand Trump was duped and misled.
Never, never, never trust a so-called expert who is being paid for, or benefitting from, his or her opinions!
This crap is just another variation of whatever they can conceive of to try to stop we, the people, of the USA, who see through the lies and are determined to prevent the destruction of the USA.
These murdering criminals will have to figure out another way to steal the 2022 midterms and the 2024 [s]election. The Trump-killed-all-these-people-with-the-warp speed-jab angle will not work. It’s another one of their endless lies. Plain and simple. Don’t fall for it.
Mike Adams, who I frequently listen to, like and respect, needs to settle down and come up for some air on this one.
ExomatrixTV
26th August 2022, 00:21
FITTON: FBI Took Whatever They Wanted from Trump’s Home!:
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Redacted Trump Affidavit To Be Publicly Released:
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mountain_jim
26th August 2022, 13:40
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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/108889268204922391
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The political Hacks and Thugs had no right under the Presidential Records Act to storm Mar-a-Lago and steal everything in sight, including Passports and privileged documents. They even broke into my safe with a safecracker - Can you believe? This Act was created for a very good reason, and it works. We are right now living in a Lawless Country, that just so happens to be, also, a Failing Nation!
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mountain_jim
26th August 2022, 17:07
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1563208226891476993?s=20&t=8JjnWgxz-VUK1l08trNC7A
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1563208031999250439?s=20&t=8JjnWgxz-VUK1l08trNC7A
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mountain_jim
26th August 2022, 17:19
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-search-warrant-affidavit-has-been-released
https://technofog.substack.com/p/the-trump-search-warrant-affidavit
Techno Fog
48 min ago
The DOJ just released the affidavit submitted in support of the search warrant of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence.
Here it is for download. (https://www.scribd.com/document/589353502/affidavit)
As expected, the judge allowed the Government to heavily redact the affidavit before it went public. In yesterday’s order, the judge found that parts of the affidavit must remain sealed because:
disclosure would reveal (1) the identities of witnesses, law enforcement agents, and uncharged parties, (2) the investigation’s strategy, direction, scope, sources, and methods, and (3) grand jury information protected by Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e).
This aligns with the DOJ representations that (1) information in the affidavit “could be used to identify many, if not all” of the witnesses; (2) the affidavit would provide a “roadmap for anyone intent on obstructive the investigation.”
Affidavit allegations:
Classified materials and “evidence of obstruction”
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Other thoughts.
A lot has been made about whether this was the Garland DOJ taking back declassified (or classified) Russiagate materials from Trump. It’s possible. Mike Davis believes so, stating on Fox: “President Trump declassified and made personal a copy of the Crossfire Hurricane records, Russian collusion records. Those records are very damaging politically to Obama, Biden, Hillary, the FBI, the Intel Community.”
Some aren’t so convinced. According to The Wall Street Journal, Kash Patel, one of the foremost experts on Russiagate, has stated he didn’t know what was in the boxes taken from Mar-A-Lago by the FBI. The New York Times also has doubts about whether the documents included Russiagate materials:
None of those documents or any other materials pertaining to the Russia investigation were believed to be in the cache of documents recovered by the F.B.I. during the search of Mar-a-Lago, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.
In fact, many of the Russiagate documents declassified by Trump may already be in possession of the National Archives. According to June 2022 reporting from Politico:
Former President Donald Trump has told the National Archives to grant journalist John Solomon access to non-public administration records, according to Solomon and a spokesperson for the former president.
Solomon said Trump specifically directed the Archives to give him access to documents related to the Russia probe that were declassified in the final days of his administration. And he said the Archives have been cooperative and accommodating.
Then there’s the issue of classification. Does it matter if the documents at Mar-A-Lago were classified or unclassified?
As we stated when the warrant was released, the statutes in question do not necessarily require the documents to be classified. One of the statutes mentioned in the warrant – 18 USC § 2071 – prohibits the removal of “any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office. . .” Prosecution under § 2071 does not depend on the classification of the document.
The Espionage Act (18 USC § 793) is also referenced in the warrant. Over at Lawfare they guessed that “the part of the Espionage Act that is likely most relevant in this case is § 793(d).” They ended up being wrong. The affidavit cites to 793(e), which prohibits the unauthorized possession and retention of documents “relating to the national defense.”
The Espionage Act does not contain the term “classified.” And although the law’s application considers the status of classification, there’s a question of whether the documents must be classified for charges to be brought. See US v. Morison, 844 F.2d 1057, 1076 (4th Cir. 1988) (discussing the narrowing of the definition of documents “relating to the national defense” to those documents “which had been ‘closely held’ by the government and was ‘not available to the general public’”). This leads us to ask whether the government can consider a document to be “closely held” if it isn’t classified.
The affidavit answers that question, stating “information related to the national defense” has been construed broadly by the courts.
Make no mistake: the Garland DOJ would see no issue with prosecuting for the retention of unclassified documents. But maybe they don’t need to go that far, as they’re alleging the materials at Mar-a-Lago were classified. From the DOJ’s April 29, 2022 letter to Trump’s attorneys: “among the materials in the boxes are over 100 documents with classification markings, comprising more than 700 pages.” And back in May 2022, NARA stated it had “identified items marked as classified national security information, up to the level of Top Secret and including Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Program materials.” And now we have the affidavit’s allegations that the materials were classified.
That gets us to how a president can declassify documents. Opponents of Trump suggest he needed to follow the “formal process” established by President Obama’s Executive Order 13526. They’re wrong. A president can declassify however he wants.
Even Obama’s Executive Order 13526, cited by Trump’s critics to argue that it alone “specifies criteria to justify declassification”, concedes the president has “authority to classify information.” The president’s inherent power to classify information applies equally to declassification. And if the power is inherent, then it can be practiced through formal or unformal processes, unconstrained by a predecessor’s Executive Order. We again cite Mike Davis, arguing in Newsweek:
The president has the inherent constitutional power to declassify any record he wants, in any manner he wants, regardless of any otherwise-pertinent statute or regulation that applies to everyone else.
Finally, we get to the pre-raid knowledge of the Biden Administration. Due to Presidential Records Act regulations, it is highly likely that the Biden White House requested the documents in Trump’s possession from the National Archives. As Jack Goldsmith explains, these regulations provide that President Biden (probably through the White House Counsel) “must request the records [he seeks] … from the Archivist in writing.”
Not that the National Archives demands every record – or treats all former presidents equally. Former President Clinton was allowed to retain seventy-nine audiotapes, which were created after Clinton enlisted a historian to assist him in creating “an oral history of his eight years of office.” Judicial Watch v. Nat. Archives and Records Admin., 845 F.Supp.2d 288, 290 (D.D.C. 2012).
What changed? The politics of the leadership of the National Archives, the DOJ, and the FBI, all of whom are more than willing to target a former president because he is also presidential candidate.
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mountain_jim
27th August 2022, 12:27
https://truthsocial.com/@KanekoaTheGreat/posts/108890946768621890
(not a member, got quoted version from here
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Top Legal Scholar Mike Davis Torches Biden's FBI Raid
"This home raid on President Trump was unprecedented, unnecessary, and unlawful... The President has the absolute constitutional authority to declassify anything he wants for any reason he wants and he doesn't have to get permission from any bureaucrat at the National Archives to do that and that is confirmed by a 1988 Supreme Court case, Department of the Navy vs Egan...
The President has the sole statutory authority to make the determination whether a record is a personal record that belongs to him or a presidential record that goes to the bureaucrats at the National Archives... And that is confirmed by a 2012 decision by an Obama judge related to Judicial Watch and Tom Fitton's lawsuits against President Clinton related to eight years of audio tapes in his sock drawer...
It is legally impossible for a former president to obstruct investigations into non-crimes... Congress gives former presidents secure office space, staff, security clearance, and secret service protection to guard these paper records and there is no allegation got into the wrong hands unlike Hillary Clinton's home server where she had foreign governments hack the most highly classified secrets in our government and she didn't get a FBI raid — so what was so urgent that caused the Biden DOJ to get this records?
I think it's because President Trump declassified and made personal his copy of the Crossfire Hurricane records and the Biden DOJ never made them public because they are so damning on Obama, Hillary, the FBI, and the IC...
They said that the AG didn't personally authorize this raid — he absolutely did. They also said that the Biden WH was not involved in this raid — they absolutely were because WH Deputy counsel Jonathan Su had to relay that Biden waived President Trump's assertion of executive privilege which paved the way for this raid.
This is a political hit on a former president."
norman
28th August 2022, 12:29
MIKE DAVIS: THE FBI ORDERED THE MAR-A-LAGO RAID TO RECOVER OPERATION CROSSFIRE
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Mike Davis from the Article III Project, a group of lawyers and researchers who promote Constitutional judges says of the release of the redacted DOJ affidavit which supposedly justified the Trump raid:
“This affidavit was meaningless. It was redacted to the point of meaningless. This judge knew it was meaningless. He said that. And remember, this magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhart, he’s biased. He just recused from Trump’s civil lawsuit against Hillary Clinton on June 22nd. His bias didn’t go away as a matter of law, over the last 6 weeks, when he ordered this unprecedented, unnecessary and unlawful home raid.
“This biased judge has the exact same incentives as the corrupt counter espionage unit at the FBI and the Biden Justice Department, to cover their tracks. They know that they ordered a political hit on President Trump to get back his Crossfire Hurricane Russian Collusion documents…
“It is Item Number Two on the raid inventory of those leather-bound documents are the de-classified personal copy of the Crossfire records. Trump de-classified them with a memo on January 19th, 2021, before he left office the next day.
“The librarians, the bureaucrats at the National Archives dragged their feet, the Biden Justice Department dragged their feet. They said that they had to do a Privacy Act review to make sure that private information didn’t get out there, which is complete nonsense. They dragged their feet, they found out President Trump has his copy and they’re terrified and that’s why they ordered this home raid on former President Trump.”
RUSSIA HOAX IS CENTRAL TO THE CONTINUED PERPETRATION OF DEEP STATES’ ONGOING CRIMES
The Globalists who have infiltrated our government must have control over all of the Crossfire Hurricane records, in order to continue their unimpeded destruction of the United States and to complete the handover of the country to the World Economic Forum.
The Russia Hoax perpetrated by Crossfire Hurricane is a false narrative that is central to many of the criminal activities of the Administrative State, now acting through the Biden Regime. The Russia Hoax was what justified the Mueller Investigation and as we’ve recently learned from Tore Maras, the Russia Hoax was what prompted Obama’s DHS Secretary, Jeh Johnson to declare election hardware and software to be Federal “Critical Infrastructure” on January 6th, 2017.
The Russia Hoax is a false flag. By alleging that Russia had attacked US Critical Infrastructure, our elections were quietly federalized and thereby came under the control of the Globalists without our knowledge or consent. The false allegation that the Russians hacked the 2016 Election and installed Trump into the Presidency triggered the DHS to be brought into the 2018 and 2020 elections via their private contractors, like CrowdStrike and other Deep State cut-outs and fronts, who have contracted with either 1) the States’ Secretaries of State; 2) the Counties’ Boards of Electors; or 3) County Judges to control the elections in their respective jurisdictions.
This is how our country is being stolen by the Globalists. No amount of poll-watching will stop the steal of the next elections. We must end the use of DHS-controlled voting machines and go back to paper ballots.
ExomatrixTV
28th August 2022, 18:27
Trump FBI Raid Affidavit Released, Suggests Serious FBI Corruption:
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ExomatrixTV
28th August 2022, 19:42
MIKE DAVIS: THE FBI ORDERED THE MAR-A-LAGO RAID TO RECOVER OPERATION CROSSFIRE
Steve Bannon's War Room
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Contributed by Alexandra Bruce
Mike Davis from the Article III Project, a group of lawyers and researchers who promote Constitutional judges says of the release of the redacted DOJ affidavit which supposedly justified the Trump raid:
“This affidavit was meaningless. It was redacted to the point of meaningless. This judge knew it was meaningless. He said that. And remember, this magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhart, he’s biased. He just recused from Trump’s civil lawsuit against Hillary Clinton on June 22nd. His bias didn’t go away as a matter of law, over the last 6 weeks, when he ordered this unprecedented, unnecessary and unlawful home raid.
“This biased judge has the exact same incentives as the corrupt counter espionage unit at the FBI and the Biden Justice Department, to cover their tracks. They know that they ordered a political hit on President Trump to get back his Crossfire Hurricane Russian Collusion documents…
“It is Item Number Two on the raid inventory of those leather-bound documents are the de-classified personal copy of the Crossfire records. Trump de-classified them with a memo on January 19th, 2021, before he left office the next day.
“The librarians, the bureaucrats at the National Archives dragged their feet, the Biden Justice Department dragged their feet. They said that they had to do a Privacy Act review to make sure that private information didn’t get out there, which is complete nonsense. They dragged their feet, they found out President Trump has his copy and they’re terrified and that’s why they ordered this home raid on former President Trump.”
RUSSIA HOAX IS CENTRAL TO THE CONTINUED PERPETRATION OF DEEP STATES’ ONGOING CRIMES
The Globalists who have infiltrated our government must have control over all of the Crossfire Hurricane records, in order to continue their unimpeded destruction of the United States and to complete the handover of the country to the World Economic Forum.
The Russia Hoax perpetrated by Crossfire Hurricane is a false narrative that is central to many of the criminal activities of the Administrative State, now acting through the Biden Regime. The Russia Hoax was what justified the Mueller Investigation and as we’ve recently learned from Tore Maras, the Russia Hoax was what prompted Obama’s DHS Secretary, Jeh Johnson to declare election hardware and software to be Federal “Critical Infrastructure” on January 6th, 2017.
The Russia Hoax is a false flag. By alleging that Russia had attacked US Critical Infrastructure, our elections were quietly federalized and thereby came under the control of the Globalists without our knowledge or consent. The false allegation that the Russians hacked the 2016 Election and installed Trump into the Presidency triggered the DHS to be brought into the 2018 and 2020 elections via their private contractors, like CrowdStrike and other Deep State cut-outs and fronts, who have contracted with either 1) the States’ Secretaries of State; 2) the Counties’ Boards of Electors; or 3) County Judges to control the elections in their respective jurisdictions.
This is how our country is being stolen by the Globalists. No amount of poll-watching will stop the steal of the next elections. We must end the use of DHS-controlled voting machines and go back to paper ballots.
02.15.2022
Biden Admin. Continues to Conceal Declassified Crossfire Hurricane Records
Grassley, Johnson push for transparency more than a year after President Trump ordered disclosure of DOJ activity
WASHINGTON – More than a year after then-President Trump directed details of the government’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation to be declassified, the Justice Department continues to hide those important records. Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations Ranking Member Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) today are calling on the department to promptly comply with the declassification directive.
“We remain concerned that over one year from the date then-President Trump directed the Justice Department to declassify certain Crossfire Hurricane records the Justice Department has not only failed to declassify a single page, the Department has failed to identify for Congress records that it knows with certainty to be covered by the declassification directive.,” the senators wrote in a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland.
The letter renews concerns raised in October about the department’s failure to disclose records related to its Russian interference investigation.
The department’s delayed transparency has interfered with congressional investigators’ review of what should already be public records. Congressional investigators have been required to view Crossfire Hurricane documents in the department’s secured facilities, and the department has been unable to confirm which records are subject to Trump’s declassification directive.
“…our staff should not have to spend potentially multiple days and countless hours in the Department’s classified facility only to play a guessing game with the Department about what document may or may not be covered by the declassification directive and potentially review records that have already been produced to Congress.”
The senators are calling on the department to explain the steps it’s taking to comply with the year-old transparency order and ensure that records aren’t further subjected to unnecessary redactions.
“Our oversight efforts are based on our unyielding belief that the American people deserve to know the complete truth about the Crossfire Hurricane investigation,” the senators wrote.
Full text of the letter to Garland follows:
February 15, 2022
VIA ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION
The Honorable Merrick Garland
Attorney General
Department of Justice
Dear Attorney General Garland:
We are in receipt of your January 20, 2022, letter which was sent in response to our October 13, 2021, letter. We remain concerned that over one year from the date then-President Trump directed the Justice Department to declassify certain Crossfire Hurricane records the Justice Department has not only failed to declassify a single page, the Department has failed to identify for Congress records that it knows with certainty to be covered by the declassification directive.
Your letter noted that on July 9, 2021, the Department “offered to compare the documents we understand to be covered by the Memorandum with the documents that had been previously provided to Congress…” However, your letter also stated that the Department “has been taking steps to determine” which documents can be disclosed and that review is “ongoing.” It is incumbent upon the Department to determine which records are covered by the declassification directive and it is clear from your letter that the Department – after more than one year – has yet to get the job done. Moreover, the Department has refused to commit to producing records to Congress without Freedom of Information Act and related redactions.
When the Department is able to (1) identify with certainty the records subject to the declassification directive; (2) confirm the records are not those that have already been reviewed by our staff; and (3) agree that no improper redactions will be placed on those records, our staff stand ready to review in camera prior to production to Congress. Absent those conditions, our staff should not have to spend potentially multiple days and countless hours in the Department’s classified facility only to play a guessing game with the Department about what document may or may not be covered by the declassification directive and potentially review records that have already been produced to Congress.
Further, your letter failed to accurately recite the communications between our respective staff. For example, our staff have insisted – on many occasions – that the Department must first identify the records subject to the declassification order and, second, produce those records to Congress and the American people without improper redactions. Our oversight efforts are based on our unyielding belief that the American people deserve to know the complete truth about the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
Finally, regarding your compliance with the declassification directive, your letter failed to provide any information about the actions taken to determine which records fall under the scope of the declassification directive, the number of records identified to-date and the extent to which the identified records will be declassified. We request a detailed response with respect to those questions and a commitment to the aforementioned conditions no later than March 1, 2022.
Sincerely,
Charles E. Grassley
Ranking Member
Committee on the Judiciary
Ron Johnson
Ranking Member
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations
source (https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/biden-admin-continues-to-conceal-declassified-crossfire-hurricane-records)
trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/memorandum-declassification-certain-materials-related-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation (https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/memorandum-declassification-certain-materials-related-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation)
justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf (https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf)
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Sen. Coons questions Sally Yates in “Oversight of the Crossfire Hurricane Investigation: Day 2":
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Graham Delivers Opening Remarks at Day 3 of Oversight of the Crossfire Hurricane Investigation
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FBI/DOJ Misconduct & Media Suppression: The Case Study of Crossfire Hurricane:
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Homeland Security hearing on oversight of Crossfire Hurricane investigation:
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Ted Cruz GRILLS Comey at Crossfire Hurricane hearing:
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TomKat
29th August 2022, 12:52
James Howard Kunstler says that Obama is running the Biden administration. This Florida raid, along with the charging of Trump with espionage, reeks of Obama's famous vindictiveness -- he was fond of charging journalists with such things. And now, with the redacted affidavit blacking out nearly everything except the name Kash Patel, endangering him, it reeks of Obama vindictiveness.And Obama's greatest legacy was the transformation of the DOJ into a blatantly criminal organization.
mountain_jim
29th August 2022, 20:52
https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1564343072003088385?s=20&t=2Msxv4_0zqT8EihSFNg6uw
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https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/fbi-special-agent-who-opened-trump-investigation-reportedly-escorted?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjs
FBI special agent who opened Trump investigation reportedly escorted out of Bureau headquarters
"Mr. Thibault was seen exiting the bureau’s elevator last Friday escorted by two or three "headquarters-looking types.'"
By Ben Whedon
Former Washington Field Office Special Agent in Charge Tim Thibault was reportedly escorted out of the Bureau's headquarters on Friday, amid whistleblower allegations that he showed political bias in his handling of politically sensitive investigations.
The Washington Times reported (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/29/top-agent-exits-fbi-amid-charge-political-bias-und/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push) eyewitness accounts that "Mr. Thibault was seen exiting the bureau’s elevator last Friday escorted by two or three 'headquarters-looking types.'"
Whistleblowers alleged that Thibault concealed (https://justthenews.com/accountability/whistleblowers/thurwhistleblowers-revealed-widespread-fbi-misconduct-ahead-trump)the partisan nature of evidence from FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Merrick Garland to secure their approval to open an investigation into former President Donald Trump. That investigation culminated in the FBI's raid on Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate earlier this month.
The public release of the affidavit that accompanied the search warrant revealed the warrant application relied heavily on information from news articles, including a CBS Miami piece titled "Moving Trucks Spotted At Mar-a-Lago" and a Breitbart News article in which former Trump adviser Kash Patel discussed the classified status of documents the bureau previously removed from the estate on behalf of the National Archives.
Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley confirmed (https://justthenews.com/accountability/fri-fbi-official-transferred-after-whistleblower-allegations-political-bias-senator)to Just the News prior to the raid that Thibault had been removed from his post and reassigned to an unspecified position.
Satori
29th August 2022, 21:52
https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1564343072003088385?s=20&t=2Msxv4_0zqT8EihSFNg6uw
1564343072003088385
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/fbi-special-agent-who-opened-trump-investigation-reportedly-escorted?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjs
FBI special agent who opened Trump investigation reportedly escorted out of Bureau headquarters
"Mr. Thibault was seen exiting the bureau’s elevator last Friday escorted by two or three "headquarters-looking types.'"
By Ben Whedon
Former Washington Field Office Special Agent in Charge Tim Thibault was reportedly escorted out of the Bureau's headquarters on Friday, amid whistleblower allegations that he showed political bias in his handling of politically sensitive investigations.
The Washington Times reported (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/29/top-agent-exits-fbi-amid-charge-political-bias-und/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push) eyewitness accounts that "Mr. Thibault was seen exiting the bureau’s elevator last Friday escorted by two or three 'headquarters-looking types.'"
Whistleblowers alleged that Thibault concealed (https://justthenews.com/accountability/whistleblowers/thurwhistleblowers-revealed-widespread-fbi-misconduct-ahead-trump)the partisan nature of evidence from FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Merrick Garland to secure their approval to open an investigation into former President Donald Trump. That investigation culminated in the FBI's raid on Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate earlier this month.
The public release of the affidavit that accompanied the search warrant revealed the warrant application relied heavily on information from news articles, including a CBS Miami piece titled "Moving Trucks Spotted At Mar-a-Lago" and a Breitbart News article in which former Trump adviser Kash Patel discussed the classified status of documents the bureau previously removed from the estate on behalf of the National Archives.
Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley confirmed (https://justthenews.com/accountability/fri-fbi-official-transferred-after-whistleblower-allegations-political-bias-senator)to Just the News prior to the raid that Thibault had been removed from his post and reassigned to an unspecified position.
I have no doubt he’s guilty, but he’s being made the fall guy, scapegoat to shield and protect the deciders and policy makers who are at the heart of this unconstitutional crime and who are the most guilty.
mountain_jim
29th August 2022, 22:53
an article from June 1st about this agent
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-the-fbi-chapter-342872/
What the Hell Has Happened to the FBI? Chapter 342,872…
By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY
June 1, 2022 8:48 AM
The senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee is demanding that the Justice Department and the FBI investigate the bureau’s top agent in Washington, D.C., over his social-media posts, which are highly partisan — I know, I know, you’ll never guess for which side!
Tim Thibault runs the FBI’s Washington field office which, naturally, handles many of federal law enforcement’s most politically charged investigations. He’s been at the FBI for a quarter-century, is a longtime supervisory agent, and also held top counterterrorism posts.
Turns out, agent Thibault has a very active, highly political presence on LinkedIn, among other platforms. And no, to scrutinize that presence is not to deny that police officials are American citizens who, like everyone else, are entitled to have and to express political views. To attract people to his social-media accounts, Thibault appears to be brandishing his FBI credentials, with the implication that his status and experience give him special insight into the subjects of his dingbattery.
There are about a million regulations that prohibit FBI agents from engaging in political commentary that could undermine public confidence that the FBI is a non-partisan, apolitical investigative agency. Agents are strictly forbidden from exploiting their status as FBI officials to promote their political, commercial, and other private-sphere activities. And unless you’ve been living under a rock for the past seven years, you may have heard that the bureau has been laboring under the weight of an enormous scandal, stemming from the political biases of FBI leadership and investigators, and the manner in which those biases influenced the conduct and public perception of the agency’s most consequential investigations.
As the Washington Examiner’s Jerry Dunleavy reports, Thibault’s public commentary takes aim at Republicans, the Trump administration, the Justice Department under then-attorney general Bill Barr, the American South, and the Catholic Church, among others. And upon perusing the trenchant observations in his oeuvre — e.g., “Can we give Kentucky to the Russian Federation?” — you can’t help but come away asking, “Who better to supervise and train junior investigators?”
Senator Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) has written to Attorney General Merrick Garland and FBI director Chris Wray, demanding both an inquiry and production of information about cases that Thibault has investigated and supervised. Senator Grassley is also asking the DOJ inspector-general Michael Horowitz to look into the matter. Recall that IG Horowitz has conducted several recent investigations into the FBI’s political bias, mishandling of politically charged cases, and abuse of its FISA surveillance authorities
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Brian Cates (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/52323) commentary
Brian Cates
OH MY.
My my MY.
Not only will Trump NOT be indicted, Wray and Garland just threw the Special Agent In Charge over the side.
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Brian Cates
Pretty sure we now know who the FBI SAIC was who prepared the affidavit that lied to the judge and hid that Mar A Lago has a SCIF.
And who personally led the raid on Mar A Lago himself.
He just got publicly escorted out the building.
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There’s a QUIET way to handle a reassignment.
This wasn’t it.
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Brian Cates
Forwarded from
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"The FBI Special Agent who opened the investigation into former President Donald Trump’s alleged mishandling of ‘classified’ documents has resigned and was escorted out of the bureau’s headquarters, according to reports surfacing on Monday afternoon."
https://twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1564368687745748992?s=20&t=JBnOBn8I7W-yWISevZQ4wg
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mountain_jim
30th August 2022, 02:02
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/29/top-agent-exits-fbi-amid-charge-political-bias-und/
Top agent exits FBI amid charge of political bias undermining Hunter Biden probe: Sources
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President Joe Biden with son Hunter Biden, right, leaves Kiawah Island Beach Club at Kiawah Island, S.C., Monday, Aug. 15, 2022. Biden is in Kiawah Island with his family on vacation. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
By Kerry Picket and Jeff Mordock - The Washington Times - Updated: 8:12 p.m. on Monday, August 29, 2022
A senior FBI official in the bureau’s Washington field office has abruptly resigned after coming under congressional scrutiny for suspected political bias in handling the investigation of Hunter Biden’s laptop computer.
The Washington Times learned that Timothy Thibault, an assistant special agent in charge, was forced to leave his post. The information came from two former FBI officials familiar with the situation.
Mr. Thibault was seen exiting the bureau’s elevator on Friday. He was escorted by two or three “headquarters-looking types,” according to eyewitness accounts provided to one of the former officials.
It is not clear whether Mr. Thibault left on his own accord or was forced out of the bureau. The 25-year FBI veteran was on leave for at least a month over revelations about political statements he made while leading the public corruption unit.
The FBI declined to comment. Attempts to contact Mr. Thibault were unsuccessful.
Republican lawmakers have been scrutinizing Mr. Thibault for making anti-Trump statements in social media posts in 2020. At the time, he was helping lead the FBI’s probe of Hunter Biden, whose father, President Biden, was running for the White House.
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update: ZH coverage
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-agent-accused-sabotaging-hunter-biden-laptop-investigation-escorted-out-building
FBI Agent Accused Of Sabotaging Hunter Biden Laptop Investigation Escorted Out Of Building
BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, AUG 29, 2022 - 05:20 PM
An FBI special agent at the heart of whistleblower allegations that he sabotaged the agency's 2020 investigation of Hunter Biden has been escorted out of the bureau's Washington DC field office, and was seen "exiting the bureau’s elevator last Friday escorted by two or three "headquarters-looking types,"" according to the Washington Times.
mountain_jim
30th August 2022, 12:04
(Brian's views)
Brian Cates (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/52365)
They not only don’t have anything real on Trump, so much has come out about how the investigation into Trump and this Mar A Lago raid was handled that the DOJ and FBI just had to very publicly fire the SAIC leading the charge to indict Trump.
And why? Why did they have to very publicly give him The Walk of Shame? The Walk of Shame where you are obviously being escorted off the premises after having cleaned out your office?
Because several things happened that were never supposed to happen.
And yet, somehow…they did happen.
1. The FBI/DOJ were forced to unseal the search warrant and the property list.
2. Then they were forced by the court to unseal the affidavit.
It quickly became apparent that the people leading the raid on Mar A Lago deliberately misled Florida Magistrate Judge Reinhardt on several issues to get him to sign off on their raid warrant. They were forced to reveal they’d gone far beyond the scope of the warrant in their search through the premises. They took passports and attorney/client privileged communications.
That led to the third thing that happened that was NEVER supposed to happen:
3. Trump filed in federal court and demanded the appointment of a Special Master to investigate the investigators investigating him. And the federal judge in Florida has announced she fully intends to appoint a Special Master to investigate exactly what the FBI/DOJ did in this raid.
Concurrent with the federal judge making her announcement in a ruling in court about the appointment of a Special Master to do a deep investigatory dive into just how the FBI handled this Mar-A-Lago raid and what was seized from the premises there, you suddenly have Attorney General Merrick Garland and FBI Director Christopher Wray on Friday afternoon grabbing the Special Agent In Charge [SAIC] of their Trump witch hunt, rushing to the side of the federal boat and unceremoniously tossing him over the side.
After this spectacle, they’d go ahead and indict Trump anyway? Let me just say I seriously have doubts about that.
mountain_jim
30th August 2022, 12:17
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/boom-kash-patel-entire-raid-mar-lago-prevent-disclosure-declassified-russiagate-documents-implicate-fbi-video/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
BOOM! Kash Patel: This Entire Raid on Mar-a-Lago Was to Prevent Disclosure of Declassified Russiagate Documents that Implicate FBI! (VIDEO)
By Jim Hoft
Published August 29, 2022 at 8:23pm
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On Monday Kash Patel, (https://www.fightwithkash.com/) the former chief of staff to the Acting United States Secretary of Defense under President Donald Trump, joined Tucker Carlson to discuss the recent raid on Mar-a-Lago and the release of the highly redacted affidavit to raid the former president’s home.
During the discussion Kash Patel told Tucker’s audience the real reason why the raid took place. It was to prevent the disclosure of unclassified Russiagate documents that implicated the FBI and DOJ in the garbage investigation of candidate and then President Trump.
The FBI raided Mar-a-Lago to effectively steal the documents and prevent them from being released.
Kash Patel: As we’ve said from the beginning. We got out 60% of the documents from the Russiagate investigation. 40% remained. President Trump declassified those specific documents. And this entire raid on his house I believe was to prevent the disclosure, now that the government gangsters are back in charge, of their corrupt activities from Russiagate on down. Because now that they have an open FBI intelligence investigation they will shield any release of documents because they will say we have an open investigation. Congress has a lot of work to do and I’m glad whistleblowers are coming forward. They need to be doing so in droves.
(more at link)
https://rumble.com/v1hw1lz-kash-patel-entire-raid-on-mar-a-lago-was-to-prevent-disclosure-of-declassif.html
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mountain_jim
30th August 2022, 12:29
^ thanks Bill for the add - I did not get that far yet - to see it was a Rumble video that could be included :)
ExomatrixTV
30th August 2022, 14:28
FBI Agent FORCED OUT Amid Accusations Of Protecting Hunter Biden, Trump SLAMS Corrupt FBI:
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Timothy Thibaults Departure from the FBI and What it Means:
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The Hunter Biden (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112590-Evidence-of-Biden-Family-Crimes--heavily-media-suppressed-) case plot thickens: https://archive.ph/C83ux
mountain_jim
30th August 2022, 15:45
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-fbi-agent-timothy-thibault-resigns/
POLITICS
Top-level FBI agent under fire for role in Hunter Biden investigation resigns
BY ANDRES TRIAY, CATHERINE HERRIDGE
AUGUST 30, 2022 / 7:26 AM / CBS NEWS
Timothy Thibault, a top-level FBI agent who had been under fire for his role in investigations regarding President Biden's son, Hunter Biden (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chuck-grassley-fbi-justice-department-downplay-hunter-biden-information/), resigned late last week and was walked out of the FBI, two U.S. officials confirmed. But these officials also said that Thibault had reached retirement age, and they added that all of those who retire hand over their badge and gun and are escorted out of the building.
Thibault, who worked in the FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C., had recently been removed from his position as assistant special agent in charge at the FBI's Washington Field Office, which covers all of the District of Columbia and Northern Virginia.
Thibault came under fire earlier this year from Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley who had accused him (https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/whistleblowers-reports-reveal-double-standard-in-pursuit-of-politically-charged-investigations-by-senior-fbi-doj-officials) of "improper conduct" in the Hunter Biden investigation, alleging that Thibault had tried to close the probe. The probe into Hunter Biden's business practices, run by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Delaware, is ongoing.
Grassley said in late July that "highly credible" whistleblowers (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chuck-grassley-fbi-justice-department-downplay-hunter-biden-information/) had approached a senior Senate Republican and alleged a widespread effort within the FBI to downplay or discredit negative information about Hunter Biden. He cited a 2020 FBI intelligence assessment that was "used by an FBI headquarters team to improperly discredit negative Hunter Biden information as disinformation." He continued, "Based on allegations, verified and verifiable derogatory information on Hunter Biden was falsely labeled as disinformation."
In October 2020, one month before the election, "an avenue of derogatory Hunter Biden reporting was ordered closed" by a senior FBI agent at the bureau's Washington Field Office. An earlier letter from Grassley identified the agent as Thibault.
"[T]he allegations provided to my office appear to indicate that there was a scheme in place among certain FBI officials to undermine derogatory information connected to Hunter Biden by falsely suggesting it was disinformation," Grassley claimed.
In addition to concerns about the handling of investigation into Hunter Biden, Grassley accused Thibault of likely violations of "[f]ederal laws, regulations and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) guidelines" in a May 31 letter.
"Whistleblowers have reported to me, that although the FBI and Justice Department maintain policies dictating specific standards requiring substantial factual predication to initiate an investigation, Thibault and other Justice Department and FBI employees failed to comply with these requirements," he wrote.
The letter also singled out Justice Department official Richard Pilger, identified as the director of the Election Crimes Branch within the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section, who, along with Thibault, were alleged to be "deeply involved in the decisions to open and pursue this investigation," an apparent reference to a probe recently opened into the Trump campaign.
Grassley told FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Merrick Garland "the opening memo you approved," included media reporting citing research from a "liberal non-profit" when a full investigation of a political nature requires "a heightened factual basis."
Grassley continued, "In light of these allegations, I remain very concerned that political bias by a select group of Justice Department and FBI officials has infected the Justice Department's and FBI's usual process and procedure to open and pursue high-profile and politically charged investigations."
After Grassley's office released the letter in July, the Justice Department said it had received the letter, declined to comment further, and did not refer CBS News to any counsel for Pilger.
In response to Thibault's resignation, Grassley said in a statement, "Mr. Thibault's blatant partisanship undermined the work and reputation of the FBI. This type of bias in high-profile investigations casts a shadow over all of the bureau's work that he was involved in, which ranged from opening an investigation into Trump based on liberal news articles to shutting down investigative activity into Hunter Biden that was based on verified information."
He added, "Political bias should have no place at the FBI, and the effort to revive the FBI's credibility can't stop with his exit. We need accountability, which is why Congress must continue investigating and the inspector general must fully investigate as I've requested."
Wray was asked about (https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/08/04/2022/oversight-of-the-federal-bureau-of-investigation) Thibault at a hearing earlier this month on Capitol Hill and said allegations that Thibault "liked" social media posts critical of Trump associates was "troubling." He also pledged the bureau would be "scrupulous in our adherence to rules related to whistleblowers."
"If there are allegations of misconduct by FBI employees, we want to make sure that we get that information so we can use the tools we have to go after that conduct," he said. "But certainly, I condemn in the strongest possible terms any prospect of retaliation against whistleblowers."
The FBI declined to comment.
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ever the master troller :)
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mountain_jim
30th August 2022, 15:51
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11160289/FBI-agent-accused-bias-Hunter-Biden-laptop-investigation-resigns-bureau.html
Top FBI agent accused of protecting Hunter Biden from probes RESIGNS: Veteran is marched out of HQ over claims he suppressed laptop story and was 'politically biased'
Timothy Thibault was an Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the investigation
He resigned after being dismissed from the supervisory role by FBI Director
It comes after agency whistleblowers alleged Thibault and other high-ranking officials allowed political bias to influence their handling of case
Thibault was escorted out of the D.C. headquarters for the last time on Friday
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(more at link)
mountain_jim
31st August 2022, 12:30
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1564863050527789057?s=20&t=CIb6FkF94bkuwGkVFl4u6A
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mountain_jim
31st August 2022, 13:59
Breaking REVEALED: Top Secret docs recovered at Mar-a-Lago
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actually (deep state narrative? - links at link)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/justice-department-rebuttal-trump-special-master
Justice Department releases photo of top secret docs found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago
by Daniel Chaitin, Deputy News Editor & Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter
The Department of Justice published a photo of classified documents on the floor of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort as part of its response to his petition for a special master to review materials seized by federal officials.
The image was included in a filing made just moments before the midnight deadline set by Judge Aileen Cannon of the Southern District of Florida after approving the agency's request to file up to 40 pages over the 20-page limit to "adequately address the legal and factual issues raised by" Trump's team.
The photo shows a series of documents on a carpeted floor, some with "secret" or "top secret" marked on them. A box with a framed copy of Time Magazine Trump was on the cover of can also be seen in the photograph.
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The document was 36 pages long.
“Plaintiff’s motion to appoint a special master, enjoin further review of seized materials, and require the return of seized items fails for multiple, independent reasons. As an initial matter, the former President lacks standing to seek judicial relief or oversight as to Presidential records because those records do not belong to him,” prosecutors argued in the late Tuesday evening filing.
“The Presidential Records Act makes clear that ‘the United States’ has ‘complete ownership, possession, and control’ of them. Furthermore, this Court lacks jurisdiction to adjudicate Plaintiff’s Fourth Amendment challenges to the validity of the search warrant and his arguments for returning or suppressing the materials seized.”
Cannon, a Trump appointee, has already signaled her "preliminary intent" to side with Trump in the special master request and scheduled a hearing on the special master request for Thursday. The Trump team will be able to file a response before then on Wednesday.
The Justice Department argued that Trump “has shown no basis for the Court to grant injunctive relief”, and prosecutors argued the “appointment of a special master is unnecessary and would significantly harm important governmental interests, including national security interests.”
“The government’s filter team has already completed its work of segregating any seized materials that are potentially subject to attorney-client privilege, and the government’s investigative team has already reviewed all of the remaining materials, including any that are potentially subject to claims of executive privilege,” the DOJ filing also said.
MAR-A-LAGO RAID: WHAT PUNISHMENTS COULD TRUMP FACE?
Prosecutors also claimed the “appointment of a special master would impede the government’s ongoing criminal investigation and — if the special master were tasked with reviewing classified documents — would impede the Intelligence Community from conducting its ongoing review of the national security risk that improper storage of these highly sensitive materials may have caused and from identifying measures to rectify or mitigate any damage that improper storage caused.”
They added that it was the DOJ’s position that “this case does not involve any of the types of circumstances that have warranted appointment of a special master to review materials potentially subject to attorney-client privilege.”
Trump lawyer Christina Bobb then signed a document asserting that all classified material had been returned to the government, the New York Times reported. Another attachment from DOJ appeared to show that certification document, dated June 2, although the name of the signer is redacted.
Prosecutors also discussed Trump's passports — including two official passports, one of which was expired, and one personal passport that was expired — were found in a drawer and taken by federal officials before being returned to the former president. "The location of the passports is relevant evidence in an investigation of unauthorized retention and mishandling of national defense information; nonetheless, the government decided to return those passports in its discretion," the Justice Department said.
LINDSEY GRAHAM PREDICTS RIOTS IF TRUMP IS PROSECUTED OVER CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS
Trump's legal team argues that their client's constitutional rights were violated and there may have been privileged documents among those taken by federal officials, and the former president is pursuing the appointment of a special master to review independently the evidence that the FBI seized from his Mar-a-Lago home.
Last week, lawyers for Trump filed a motion requesting the appointment of a special master to assess the records, arguing that the raid of his Palm Beach golf club and winter residence was a "shockingly aggressive move." The filing came two weeks after Trump was raided by the bureau, and a judge indicated this weekend that she was leaning toward granting Trump's request.
The Justice Department filing on Tuesday included a lengthy justification of its investigation.
“Throughout 2021, the United States National Archives and Records Administration had ongoing communications with representatives of former President Trump in which it sought the transfer of what it perceived were missing records from his Administration,” the Justice Department said. “These communications ultimately resulted in the provision of fifteen boxes from former President Trump to NARA in January 2022.”
Prosecutors wrote: “When producing the Fifteen Boxes, the former President never asserted executive privilege over any of the documents nor claimed that any of the documents in the boxes containing classification markings had been declassified.”
The DOJ said the National Archives referred the case for two reasons — "evidence that classified records had been stored at the Premises until mid January 2022, and evidence that certain pages of Presidential records had been torn up.”
The department added a preliminary review by the FBI revealed “184 unique documents bearing classification markings, including 67 documents marked as CONFIDENTIAL, 92 documents marked as SECRET, and 25 documents marked as TOP SECRET.” The FBI then allegedly developed evidence that “dozens of additional boxes remained at the Premises that were also likely to contain classified information.”
Trump claimed he declassified all the documents stored at Mar-a-Lago and denied any wrongdoing. "The DOJ and FBI are practicing Election Interference at the highest and most dishonest level our Country has ever seen before, both in the Midterms, and the 2024 Presidential Election," he said on Truth Social on Sunday.
Trump declared that he declassified documents from the Crossfire Hurricane investigation just before he left office, but it's unclear whether those records are part of the eclectic array of items found at Mar-a-Lago, either during the raid earlier this month or when government officials obtained documents on at least two other prior occasions.
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1564986850955169792?s=20&t=3HFuGk86zm5gVwCR7CvoGw
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mountain_jim
31st August 2022, 14:44
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11164209/FBI-staff-lost-confidence-Director-Christopher-Wray-call-resignation.html
FBI staff have 'lost confidence' in Director Christopher Wray and are calling for him to step down, says lawyer, one day after it emerged 'politically biased' agent who protected Hunter Biden had left the bureau
FBI rank-and-file have lost confidence in Director Christopher Wray, report says
Lawyer says agents want Wray to quit for losing control of agency
Wray accused of being aware of problems and doing nothing to resolve them
Report comes after agent in charge of Hunter laptop case resigns over bias
By WALTER FINCH FOR MAILONLINE
The FBI rank-and-file have lost confidence in Director Christopher Wray and are calling for his resignation, according to a report.
Kurt Siuzdak, a lawyer and former FBI agent who now represents whistleblowers at the bureau, said that agents are telling him Wray has lost control of the agency and they do not see how he can continue in his position.
'I'm hearing from [FBI personnel] that they feel like the director has lost control of the bureau,' Siuzdak told the Washington Times.
'They're saying, 'How does this guy survive? He's leaving. He's got to leave.'
'All Wray does is go in and say we need more training and we're doing stuff about it, or we will not tolerate it.'
Siuzdak claimed he left his job as an FBI agent after almost 25 years last March because of alleged politicization at the top and said FBI leaders not being held accountable.
The report comes hot on the heels of the resignation of Timothy Thibault, the FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the Hunter Biden laptop investigation, over accusations of political bias.
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norman
1st September 2022, 23:05
Man In America
FBI & DOJ Weaponization, Mar-A-Lago Raid, and America’s Future - Kash Patel Interview
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mountain_jim
2nd September 2022, 13:21
/pol/ News Network
@PNN
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They know what they’re doing. We know what they’re doing. They know that we know what they’re doing.
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Inversion
2nd September 2022, 17:27
They disclosed an inventory for the items taken from Mar-a-Lago. There were 31 marked Confidential, 54 marked Secret & 18 marked Top Secret. In total they retrieved over 11 thousand documents with 100+ listed as classified.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAf2QTJVD0
US District Judge Aileen Cannon released a detailed inventory from the Mar-a-Lago search that the Justice Department previously filed under seal in court. #CNN #News
Ratszinger
2nd September 2022, 17:37
I do not see how any of it can be classified when the president declassified everything he took before leaving with it.
Inversion
2nd September 2022, 18:10
I do not see how any of it can be classified when the president declassified everything he took before leaving with it.
There's a lengthy explanation in this link.
nytimes (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/14/us/politics/trump-classified-documents.html)
Even if it is true that Mr. Trump had pronounced the documents declassified while he was in office, he clearly did not follow the regular procedures. But there is no Supreme Court precedent that definitively answers the question of whether that would make any difference.
Notably, a federal appeals court said in 2020 that “declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures.” But the context was different: That line was part of an opinion rejecting a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit involving whether Mr. Trump had declassified a covert program by discussing its existence in a tweet.
In the unlikely event that the Justice Department were to charge him under the law that makes the unauthorized retention or removal of classified material a crime — despite not listing it as a focus of the investigation in the search warrant — a novel question would arise if Mr. Trump were then to repeat the claim as a defense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3CgO5KH0Ds
norman
2nd September 2022, 18:48
Is there a difference between an ex President who refuses to give up his access to secret stuff, and a serving Commander in chief who used to have both jobs?
mountain_jim
5th September 2022, 16:10
🚨🚨🚨BREAKING: Judge in Trump v. US orders Special Master be appointed in US case against the President.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.64.0_2.pdf
Brian Cates (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/52938)
👆👆👆 Once the judge ordered the DOJ to cough up a much more detailed property list of exactly what the FBI took from MAL as a result of this raid, and people saw what it was they actually took, the entire farce was out in the open.
And now a Special Master appointed by Judge Cannon is going to go digging all through this.
As I said in my recent column on the Mar A Lago raid, I don't think there's one thing that's gone the way these goons behind this raid thought it would.
They didn't think they'd have to unseal the affidavit or cough up a detailed property list. They thought they were going to be allowed to continue leaking to the news media vague hints about what they found and what crimes Trump supposedly committed.
Judge Cannon is quickly setting them straight about that.
Ratszinger
5th September 2022, 16:25
I do not see how any of it can be classified when the president declassified everything he took before leaving with it.
There's a lengthy explanation in this link.
nytimes (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/14/us/politics/trump-classified-documents.html)
Even if it is true that Mr. Trump had pronounced the documents declassified while he was in office, he clearly did not follow the regular procedures. But there is no Supreme Court precedent that definitively answers the question of whether that would make any difference.
Notably, a federal appeals court said in 2020 that “declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures.” But the context was different: That line was part of an opinion rejecting a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit involving whether Mr. Trump had declassified a covert program by discussing its existence in a tweet.
In the unlikely event that the Justice Department were to charge him under the law that makes the unauthorized retention or removal of classified material a crime — despite not listing it as a focus of the investigation in the search warrant — a novel question would arise if Mr. Trump were then to repeat the claim as a defense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3CgO5KH0Ds
According to legal scholars I have spoken with about it any president doesn't have to go through the same formalities as other offices in gov. The guy I spoke with said that by the action of simply walking out the door with them as the president they are declassified by that very action and nothing more need be done. The presiden can declass anything and he emphasized when I questioned, "What about nuke codes!?" with, "ANYTHING!"
mountain_jim
5th September 2022, 17:05
https://www.lawfareblog.com/classification-status-trumps-mar-lago-documents
excerpts - embedded links and more at link - I can't assess whether this is an impartial analysis or not.
CLASSIFICATION
The Classification Status of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Documents
By Katie Kedian Thursday, August 18, 2022, 11:11 AM
In the wake of the execution of the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, two issues that have received attention are the scope of a president’s declassification authority and the relevance of the classification of the documents recovered in the search. Former president Trump claims he had a standing order to declassify documents as soon as they left the oval office. Several experts have pointed out the absurdity of such a claim, describing it as “preposterous,” “idiotic and dumb,” and “utter baloney.” A recent New York Times article attempted to explain the parameters of a president’s declassification authority, but the explanation and the news coverage of that issue to date gloss over important nuances worth analyzing further. In addition, that same New York Times article described the classification status as “legally irrelevant,” which is not quite accurate, at least when it comes to the inclusion of 18 U.S.C. § 793 in the search warrant.
Let’s start with the relevance of classification to 18 U.S.C. § 793. It’s true that the statute refers to “information relating to the national defense,” not classified information. But according to two consequential cases that interpreted the phrase “information relating to the national defense” in the Espionage Act—one a Supreme Court opinion, Gorin v. United States, and the other a Second Circuit opinion by Judge Learned Hand, United States v. Heine—“information relating to the national defense” is a broad term encompassing activities relating to national preparedness, but it must also be information for which the government has taken some steps to keep it secret. (Since the classification system currently in place had yet to be invented at the time of these cases, this wasn’t meant to refer to information formally classified as “secret.”) Later cases—see here and here, for example—have interpreted this “secrecy” aspect to require that the information be “closely held,” a phrase frequently used in jury instructions for cases involving 18 U.S.C. § 793.
In addition, the same cases have also interpreted the secrecy requirement from Gorin and Heine to mean that disclosure of the information at issue must be potentially damaging to the United States or useful to an enemy of the United States. As Judge Ellis stated in United States v. Rosen (citing Gorin), “the statute only applies to information for which there is an ‘occasion for secrecy,’ and there is no ‘occasion for secrecy’ unless disclosure of the information the government seeks to protect implicates an important government interest such as the national security.” Therefore, under case law, information relating to national defense must be information that is both closely held and potentially damaging to the United States or useful to an enemy of the United States if disclosed. These judicially imposed limitations on the term have saved it from vagueness challenges. The continued classification of the information is how the government usually proves that it meets both of these requirements.
While it is possible, though rare, for certain unclassified information to be both “closely held” and potentially damaging to the United States (therefore meeting both judicially imposed requirements), the declassification of information that had previously been classified would suggest the information no longer merits being closely held and would not be damaging to the United States if disclosed. Although the public does not know all the facts regarding what is in the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago or what, if any, formal steps may have actually been taken for declassification, the classification status of the information is relevant to a discussion of potential charges under 18 U.S.C. § 793 and certainly would be considered by prosecutors evaluating the matter.
Having covered the relevance of the classification status, let’s turn to the declassification issue. Do presidents have blanket authority to declassify anything they want, any time they want, in any manner they want? Could President Trump just say (or have someone say for him) that while he was still president, he waved his magic declassification wand over any information labeled as classified that was ultimately stored at Mar-a-Lago, and presto, no one could do anything about it? Three sources to use in answering that question are Executive Order 13526 (the executive order governing classified national security information), Article II of the Constitution (which sets forth the broad authority of the executive), and a Supreme Court case, Department of Navy v. Egan.
Executive Order 13526
Executive Order 13526 (EO 13526) is the most recent in a series of executive orders promulgated by U.S. presidents to govern the handling of classified information, put forth by President Barack Obama in 2009. With respect to the authority to designate information as classified, in Section 1.3(a)(1), EO 13526 explicitly states that the president is an “original classification authority,” meaning he can decide on his own whether information should be classified.
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The Constitution’s Article II Authority and Department of Navy v. Egan
Stepping back from EO 13526’s narrower mandate, let’s look at a much broader authority that might shed light on presidential declassification: the Constitution. The president’s ultimate authority to classify information and control access to such information stems from his Article II authority under the Constitution (U.S. Constitution, Art II, Section 2), which says the president shall be commander-in-chief of the U.S. army and navy. A heavily cited Supreme Court case from the 1980s, Department of Navy v. Egan, reviewed the Executive Branch’s authority to grant and deny security clearances, and delineated a broad view of the president’s classifying authorities as commander-in-chief: “[The President’s] authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.”
The language sounds pretty broad and, at first blush, may seem to give the president authority to do as he wishes with any classified information. But does it? The Article II language presupposes, as Egan holds, that the president has ultimate authority to control access to national security information. This may mean that if a president decides, on the fly, that he wants to convey highly classified information to Russian officials—as President Trump apparently did in 2017—that could be consistent with authorities given to him by the Constitution. (Note, though, that Article II’s conference of authority was likely granted under the assumption that the president would make any such decision in the interest of the national security of the United States and not for personal reasons.)
But does the language of Article II go beyond that ostensibly principled national security decision-making to allow a president to remove classified information to an unsecure location and purportedly attempt to declassify it, for no apparent national security reason and with no documented process or consultation with the information’s equity holders? On the one hand, one might try to argue that the language in Egan regarding the president’s breadth of authority to “control access” would include moving materials to a location that would be his home once he left office. But on the other hand, would such a reading really be consistent with Article II, without any additional national security basis for the removal of the documents? One could argue the oral disclosure by a president to a foreign official might be consistent with what the founders had in mind when they designated the president as the commander-in-chief, but the removal and attempted declassification of a seemingly wide array of classified documents as in this instance—as a president was leaving office after a lost election, without any stated reason or documentation for the removal and attempted declassification—seems quite far afield from the founders’ intentions. At least one recent court opinion from 2020 (New York Times v. CIA) articulated the point that the reading of the president’s broad Article II power in Egan does have its limits: “ ... declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures ...”
After President Trump’s disclosure of classified information to the Russian ambassador and the Russian foreign minister in 2017, some said the president had done nothing wrong: that he had every right to share whatever he wanted with whomever he wanted, classification of the information be damned. Even some who lamented the disclosures for their potential harm to national security conceded that the president had the authority to make them. Others questioned the President’s authority to make the disclosure but accepted that no criminal consequences would follow. A small number of commentators maintained that his actions could have violated federal law, but the overall consensus back then was that it was not a matter that merited legal consequences, and no legal consequences followed.
he situation this time contains at least three differences that may alter the analysis:
This was not an oral disclosure by a president of a specific item of classified information to identified individuals. Rather, it appears to have involved removal and retention of multiple classified documents to an unauthorized location. In the absence of any information about what was removed, and why, and what any basis may have been for an attempt at declassification, it is difficult to presume these were actions in the interest of national security and consistent with a president’s Article II authorities.
Assuming the documents were removed to Mar-a-Lago sometime between December 2020 and 11:59 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021, the president had been defeated in an election and was on his way out of office at the time the documents were removed. While he remained commander-in-chief through 11:59 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021 and retained full Article II authorities through that moment, the timing does seem relevant to his motive and intent—especially in the absence, as indicated above, of any information about what was removed and why, and what any basis may have been for an attempted declassification. What possible reason, consistent with Article II, would an outgoing president have for taking these actions during that time?
The documents were discovered and recovered after Trump was no longer president. His Article II authority had expired by then. If he can’t prove that he declassified them before 11:59 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021, he lacked the power to do so.
Incidentally, these differences also illustrate how the issue with the Mar-a-Lago documents can be distinguished from a seemingly similar issue that arose in the United States v. Libby case in 2006. In that case, President Bush had, without going through any formal process, authorized disclosure of parts of a classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) to a reporter, and that disclosure was purported to be a presidential declassification of the material. As with the incident with President Trump and the Russians in 2017, one could argue this sort of declassification fits within the broad powers of a president’s declassification authorities. And the NIE disclosure had a more obvious connection with a president’s Article II authorities—whatever one thought about the merits of the war in Iraq, the decision to declassify a specific piece of intelligence that supported the administration’s justifications for war is on point with those authorities.
Of note in the Libby case is that, at the time the president had purportedly declassified the information in the NIE for disclosure to a reporter, other senior officials—including cabinet-level officials—were not made aware of the declassification and in fact embarked on separate efforts to get the document declassified through normal agency channels. Libby, who disclosed the information to the reporter after the purported presidential declassification but prior to the formal declassification through regular agency channels, was not charged with disclosing classified information. Some might try to argue those facts illustrate that presidential declassification can occur without others knowing and without a formal process. But charging decisions are quite fact-specific and are subject to prosecutorial discretion, so just because the government did not charge Libby for the disclosure (and thus did not have an occasion to challenge the presidential declassification in that case) is not proof that presidential declassification without formal process and without others knowing is entirely legitimate. And, as indicated above, there are a number of factors just from what is publicly known that distinguish the purported presidential declassification of the Mar-a-Lago documents from what happened in the Libby case and suggest it may be further removed from a president’s authority under Article II.
Final Thoughts on the President’s Declassification Powers
On the issue of what, if any, process is or should be required for a president to declassify information, EO 13526 may not provide definitive answers, but it does suggest the prudence of some process, when possible, that factors in equities and expertise that specific agencies may have regarding the information at issue. In fact, in other instances during the Trump presidency, officials engaged in and showed awareness of the necessity of some sort of declassification process. See, for example, the declassification ordered for the Carter Page FISA Application and other FBI documents.
The Constitution’s broad brush in Article II and cases interpreting Article II may fail to suggest specific requirements the president might have to follow regarding declassification, but one can put forth a common-sense view that the broad power allotted to the president under Article II does have a limitation; it presumes an intent to act in the interest of the national security of the United States. And such a limitation would mean that if a president acts contrary to that interest, the founders would not have intended such actions to receive broad protection under Article II. Without any documentation or articulated reason for declassification of the documents at Mar-a-Lago, it seems hard to claim that such declassification comports with national security of the United States and with the president’s duties to protect national security.
Much remains unknown to the public regarding the Mar-a-Lago documents, and prosecution decisions on cases such as these are extremely fact-specific, so it is hard to speculate on where this matter is heading. Recovery of the classified material for national security reasons was without a doubt the priority. But, as concerns a potential for charges under 18 U.S.C. § 793, the DOJ would certainly consider the classification status of the documents and evaluate potential arguments regarding their declassification.
Satori
5th September 2022, 18:11
https://www.lawfareblog.com/classification-status-trumps-mar-lago-documents
excerpts - embedded links and more at link - I can't assess whether this is an impartial analysis or not.
CLASSIFICATION
The Classification Status of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Documents
By Katie Kedian Thursday, August 18, 2022, 11:11 AM
In the wake of the execution of the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, two issues that have received attention are the scope of a president’s declassification authority and the relevance of the classification of the documents recovered in the search. Former president Trump claims he had a standing order to declassify documents as soon as they left the oval office. Several experts have pointed out the absurdity of such a claim, describing it as “preposterous,” “idiotic and dumb,” and “utter baloney.” A recent New York Times article attempted to explain the parameters of a president’s declassification authority, but the explanation and the news coverage of that issue to date gloss over important nuances worth analyzing further. In addition, that same New York Times article described the classification status as “legally irrelevant,” which is not quite accurate, at least when it comes to the inclusion of 18 U.S.C. § 793 in the search warrant.
Let’s start with the relevance of classification to 18 U.S.C. § 793. It’s true that the statute refers to “information relating to the national defense,” not classified information. But according to two consequential cases that interpreted the phrase “information relating to the national defense” in the Espionage Act—one a Supreme Court opinion, Gorin v. United States, and the other a Second Circuit opinion by Judge Learned Hand, United States v. Heine—“information relating to the national defense” is a broad term encompassing activities relating to national preparedness, but it must also be information for which the government has taken some steps to keep it secret. (Since the classification system currently in place had yet to be invented at the time of these cases, this wasn’t meant to refer to information formally classified as “secret.”) Later cases—see here and here, for example—have interpreted this “secrecy” aspect to require that the information be “closely held,” a phrase frequently used in jury instructions for cases involving 18 U.S.C. § 793.
In addition, the same cases have also interpreted the secrecy requirement from Gorin and Heine to mean that disclosure of the information at issue must be potentially damaging to the United States or useful to an enemy of the United States. As Judge Ellis stated in United States v. Rosen (citing Gorin), “the statute only applies to information for which there is an ‘occasion for secrecy,’ and there is no ‘occasion for secrecy’ unless disclosure of the information the government seeks to protect implicates an important government interest such as the national security.” Therefore, under case law, information relating to national defense must be information that is both closely held and potentially damaging to the United States or useful to an enemy of the United States if disclosed. These judicially imposed limitations on the term have saved it from vagueness challenges. The continued classification of the information is how the government usually proves that it meets both of these requirements.
While it is possible, though rare, for certain unclassified information to be both “closely held” and potentially damaging to the United States (therefore meeting both judicially imposed requirements), the declassification of information that had previously been classified would suggest the information no longer merits being closely held and would not be damaging to the United States if disclosed. Although the public does not know all the facts regarding what is in the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago or what, if any, formal steps may have actually been taken for declassification, the classification status of the information is relevant to a discussion of potential charges under 18 U.S.C. § 793 and certainly would be considered by prosecutors evaluating the matter.
Having covered the relevance of the classification status, let’s turn to the declassification issue. Do presidents have blanket authority to declassify anything they want, any time they want, in any manner they want? Could President Trump just say (or have someone say for him) that while he was still president, he waved his magic declassification wand over any information labeled as classified that was ultimately stored at Mar-a-Lago, and presto, no one could do anything about it? Three sources to use in answering that question are Executive Order 13526 (the executive order governing classified national security information), Article II of the Constitution (which sets forth the broad authority of the executive), and a Supreme Court case, Department of Navy v. Egan.
Executive Order 13526
Executive Order 13526 (EO 13526) is the most recent in a series of executive orders promulgated by U.S. presidents to govern the handling of classified information, put forth by President Barack Obama in 2009. With respect to the authority to designate information as classified, in Section 1.3(a)(1), EO 13526 explicitly states that the president is an “original classification authority,” meaning he can decide on his own whether information should be classified.
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The Constitution’s Article II Authority and Department of Navy v. Egan
Stepping back from EO 13526’s narrower mandate, let’s look at a much broader authority that might shed light on presidential declassification: the Constitution. The president’s ultimate authority to classify information and control access to such information stems from his Article II authority under the Constitution (U.S. Constitution, Art II, Section 2), which says the president shall be commander-in-chief of the U.S. army and navy. A heavily cited Supreme Court case from the 1980s, Department of Navy v. Egan, reviewed the Executive Branch’s authority to grant and deny security clearances, and delineated a broad view of the president’s classifying authorities as commander-in-chief: “[The President’s] authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.”
The language sounds pretty broad and, at first blush, may seem to give the president authority to do as he wishes with any classified information. But does it? The Article II language presupposes, as Egan holds, that the president has ultimate authority to control access to national security information. This may mean that if a president decides, on the fly, that he wants to convey highly classified information to Russian officials—as President Trump apparently did in 2017—that could be consistent with authorities given to him by the Constitution. (Note, though, that Article II’s conference of authority was likely granted under the assumption that the president would make any such decision in the interest of the national security of the United States and not for personal reasons.)
But does the language of Article II go beyond that ostensibly principled national security decision-making to allow a president to remove classified information to an unsecure location and purportedly attempt to declassify it, for no apparent national security reason and with no documented process or consultation with the information’s equity holders? On the one hand, one might try to argue that the language in Egan regarding the president’s breadth of authority to “control access” would include moving materials to a location that would be his home once he left office. But on the other hand, would such a reading really be consistent with Article II, without any additional national security basis for the removal of the documents? One could argue the oral disclosure by a president to a foreign official might be consistent with what the founders had in mind when they designated the president as the commander-in-chief, but the removal and attempted declassification of a seemingly wide array of classified documents as in this instance—as a president was leaving office after a lost election, without any stated reason or documentation for the removal and attempted declassification—seems quite far afield from the founders’ intentions. At least one recent court opinion from 2020 (New York Times v. CIA) articulated the point that the reading of the president’s broad Article II power in Egan does have its limits: “ ... declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures ...”
After President Trump’s disclosure of classified information to the Russian ambassador and the Russian foreign minister in 2017, some said the president had done nothing wrong: that he had every right to share whatever he wanted with whomever he wanted, classification of the information be damned. Even some who lamented the disclosures for their potential harm to national security conceded that the president had the authority to make them. Others questioned the President’s authority to make the disclosure but accepted that no criminal consequences would follow. A small number of commentators maintained that his actions could have violated federal law, but the overall consensus back then was that it was not a matter that merited legal consequences, and no legal consequences followed.
he situation this time contains at least three differences that may alter the analysis:
This was not an oral disclosure by a president of a specific item of classified information to identified individuals. Rather, it appears to have involved removal and retention of multiple classified documents to an unauthorized location. In the absence of any information about what was removed, and why, and what any basis may have been for an attempt at declassification, it is difficult to presume these were actions in the interest of national security and consistent with a president’s Article II authorities.
Assuming the documents were removed to Mar-a-Lago sometime between December 2020 and 11:59 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021, the president had been defeated in an election and was on his way out of office at the time the documents were removed. While he remained commander-in-chief through 11:59 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021 and retained full Article II authorities through that moment, the timing does seem relevant to his motive and intent—especially in the absence, as indicated above, of any information about what was removed and why, and what any basis may have been for an attempted declassification. What possible reason, consistent with Article II, would an outgoing president have for taking these actions during that time?
The documents were discovered and recovered after Trump was no longer president. His Article II authority had expired by then. If he can’t prove that he declassified them before 11:59 a.m. on Jan. 20, 2021, he lacked the power to do so.
Incidentally, these differences also illustrate how the issue with the Mar-a-Lago documents can be distinguished from a seemingly similar issue that arose in the United States v. Libby case in 2006. In that case, President Bush had, without going through any formal process, authorized disclosure of parts of a classified National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) to a reporter, and that disclosure was purported to be a presidential declassification of the material. As with the incident with President Trump and the Russians in 2017, one could argue this sort of declassification fits within the broad powers of a president’s declassification authorities. And the NIE disclosure had a more obvious connection with a president’s Article II authorities—whatever one thought about the merits of the war in Iraq, the decision to declassify a specific piece of intelligence that supported the administration’s justifications for war is on point with those authorities.
Of note in the Libby case is that, at the time the president had purportedly declassified the information in the NIE for disclosure to a reporter, other senior officials—including cabinet-level officials—were not made aware of the declassification and in fact embarked on separate efforts to get the document declassified through normal agency channels. Libby, who disclosed the information to the reporter after the purported presidential declassification but prior to the formal declassification through regular agency channels, was not charged with disclosing classified information. Some might try to argue those facts illustrate that presidential declassification can occur without others knowing and without a formal process. But charging decisions are quite fact-specific and are subject to prosecutorial discretion, so just because the government did not charge Libby for the disclosure (and thus did not have an occasion to challenge the presidential declassification in that case) is not proof that presidential declassification without formal process and without others knowing is entirely legitimate. And, as indicated above, there are a number of factors just from what is publicly known that distinguish the purported presidential declassification of the Mar-a-Lago documents from what happened in the Libby case and suggest it may be further removed from a president’s authority under Article II.
Final Thoughts on the President’s Declassification Powers
On the issue of what, if any, process is or should be required for a president to declassify information, EO 13526 may not provide definitive answers, but it does suggest the prudence of some process, when possible, that factors in equities and expertise that specific agencies may have regarding the information at issue. In fact, in other instances during the Trump presidency, officials engaged in and showed awareness of the necessity of some sort of declassification process. See, for example, the declassification ordered for the Carter Page FISA Application and other FBI documents.
The Constitution’s broad brush in Article II and cases interpreting Article II may fail to suggest specific requirements the president might have to follow regarding declassification, but one can put forth a common-sense view that the broad power allotted to the president under Article II does have a limitation; it presumes an intent to act in the interest of the national security of the United States. And such a limitation would mean that if a president acts contrary to that interest, the founders would not have intended such actions to receive broad protection under Article II. Without any documentation or articulated reason for declassification of the documents at Mar-a-Lago, it seems hard to claim that such declassification comports with national security of the United States and with the president’s duties to protect national security.
Much remains unknown to the public regarding the Mar-a-Lago documents, and prosecution decisions on cases such as these are extremely fact-specific, so it is hard to speculate on where this matter is heading. Recovery of the classified material for national security reasons was without a doubt the priority. But, as concerns a potential for charges under 18 U.S.C. § 793, the DOJ would certainly consider the classification status of the documents and evaluate potential arguments regarding their declassification.
Definitely not impartial. Highly biased and laced with politically motivated spin.
Also ignores what very likely every POTUS, and others, e.g, SOS H. Clinton (who certainly cannot claim any Constitutional privilege or power held by a former POTUS), heretofore has done: taken what was once classified information with them after leaving office. No problem, even when it should have been, until Trump came along.
The author worked in the DOJ during the Barry Sotero/Biden/Clinton years and also worked as Senior counsel for Raytheon while Trump was in the Whitehouse.
This piece is legal advocacy, not reporting. She’s trying to appear thoughtful and objective, but she is not.
She is advocating that what was OK for other POTUS is not OK when it comes to Trump.
mountain_jim
5th September 2022, 18:42
^thanks Satori for the information and informed assessment.
mountain_jim
6th September 2022, 18:29
https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1567213488019234816?s=20&t=H95J_L_HQpLP0XGsEm_2qA
1567213488019234816
https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/06/special-master-order-reveals-bidens-direct-involvement-in-trump-raid-and-six-other-bombshells/
Special Master Order Reveals Biden’s Direct Involvement In Trump Raid And Six Other Bombshells
BY: MARGOT CLEVELAND
SEPTEMBER 06, 2022
The federal judge’s 24-page order further calls into question the DOJ’s targeting of Trump.
Afederal judge on Monday granted former President Donald Trump’s request for the appointment of a special master to review the documents seized by the FBI during a raid on his Mar-a-Lago home last month. Presiding Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, further held that the Department of Justice cannot review or use for criminal investigative purposes any material seized pending the review process.
Besides handing Trump a victory in his battle for some oversight of the Biden administration’s digging into his documents, Cannon highlighted several significant facts over the course of her 24-page order (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22275413-trump-special-master-ruling)that further call into question the DOJ’s targeting of Trump.
Here are the seven top-line takeaways:
1. President Biden Was Directly Involved
In the order granting Trump’s request for the appointment of a special master, Cannon began by providing a summary of the backdrop that led to the search. Throughout 2021, Trump and the National Archives and Records Administration (“NARA”), “engaged in conversations concerning records from [Trump’s] time in office,” the court noted. Those discussions resulted in Trump in January 2022 transferring 15 boxes from Mar-a-Lago to NARA. NARA subsequently informed the Department of Justice that some items in the boxes contained markings of “classified national security information.”
Following the archive’s outreach to the Justice Department, NARA notified Trump on April 12, 2022, that it intended to provide the 15 boxes to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Trump’s attorneys sought a delay in the transfer to assess whether any documents contained privileged material. But then, as Cannon wrote, after obtaining a short delay, on May 10, 2022, NARA informed Trump it would proceed with “provid[ing] the FBI access to the records in question, as requested by the incumbent President, beginning as early as Thursday, May 12, 2022.”
In including this quote in her order, Cannon cited the letter the NARA’s acting archivist sent to Trump’s lawyer. That letter explained that Biden had decided to defer to the archivist’s “determination, in consultation with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, regarding whether or not [the archivist] should uphold the former President’s purported ‘protective assertion of executive privilege.’” Acting Archivist Debra Steidel Wall then explained in the letter that based on her consultation with the assistant attorney general for the Office of Legal Counsel, she had decided not to honor Trump’s claim of privilege.
While the media has previously highlighted those aspects of the letter, Monday’s order highlighted a key sentence in that same letter that went less noticed by the press: “NARA will provide the FBI access to the records in question, as requested by the incumbent President, beginning as early as Thursday, May 12, 2022” (emphasis added).
This language indicates that Biden did not merely defer to the NARA but asked the NARA to give the documents to the FBI. Of course, deferring to the NARA’s judgment equated to Biden authorizing the hand-off to the FBI, but this passage suggests a more direct connection between Biden and the investigation into Trump.
2. Timeline of the Trump Targeting Is Suspect
A second significant detail revealed by Monday’s order concerns the timeline of events, which the court exposed by providing a clear chronology. On May 10, 2022, the archivist informed Trump’s lawyers that the “NARA will provide the FBI access to the records in question, as requested by the incumbent President, beginning as early as Thursday, May 12, 2022.” And on May 11, 2022, before the DOJ received possession of the 15 boxes from NARA, the DOJ “obtained a grand jury subpoena,” for “[a]ny and all documents or writings in the custody or control of Donald J. Trump and/or the Office of Donald J. Trump bearing classification markings.”
But why would the DOJ seek a grand jury subpoena for any and all documents in Trump’s possession bearing classification markings before reviewing the material provided by the NARA? And given that the DOJ obtained the subpoena the day after the NARA told Trump’s lawyer “the incumbent President” had requested the archive provide the documents to the FBI, one must ask: Did Biden direct the DOJ to obtain the grand jury subpoena?
3. Not So Fast Joe — Trump’s Executive Privilege Can’t Be So Quickly Sidestepped
Another important detail from Monday’s order concerned the court’s handling of Trump’s request for a review of the seized material to address issues of “executive privilege.” In opposing Trump’s request for a special master, the Biden administration argued that Trump lacked the right to assert “executive privilege” against the current executive branch. The court concluded that the Biden administration’s “position arguably overstates the law,” noting that the Supreme Court has not “rule[d] out the possibility of a former President overcoming an incumbent President on executive privilege matters.”
“Further, just this year,” Cannon continued, “the Supreme Court noted that, at least in connection with a congressional investigation, ‘[t]he questions whether and in what circumstances a former President may obtain a court order preventing disclosure of privileged records from his tenure in office, in the face of a determination by the incumbent President to waive the privilege, are unprecedented and raise serious and substantial concerns.’” To protect former President Trump’s ability to raise a question of executive privilege, then, a special master should review the documents and make an initial assessment, the court concluded.
This analysis tees up the possibility that Trump will later assert executive privilege, prompting a showdown with the Biden administration.
4. Members of the Investigative Team Saw Confidential Attorney-Client Documents
While the Biden administration had not reviewed the seized documents to assess any potential executive privilege concerns, a Privilege Review Team had screened the material to determine if it is protected by attorney-client privilege. Because it had already screened the material, the government objected to the appointment of a special master to conduct “another round of screening,” arguing in essence, that such screening would be “unnecessary.”
“The Court takes a different view on this record,” Cannon explained in rejecting the government’s argument. The court then stressed that the evidence suggests the Privilege Review Team’s initial screening for potentially privileged material was faulty.
“The Privilege Review Team’s Report references at least two instances in which members of the Investigative Team were exposed to material that was then delivered to the Privilege Review Team and, following another review, designated as potentially privileged material,” Cannon noted. “Those instances alone, even if entirely inadvertent, yield questions about the adequacy of the filter review process.”
The federal judge further expressed concern about the fact that “the Filter Review Team’s Report does not indicate that any steps were taken after these instances of exposure to wall off the two tainted members of the Investigation Team,” with the “tainted members” being the ones who had seen the material presumed protected by attorney-client privilege.
While a special master cannot address the issue of the “tainted members” on the investigative team, the court’s highlighting of the problem will likely push the DOJ to keep those agents away from any related part of the investigation. But what the special master can do is review the documents and determine if others were protected by attorney-client privilege. If so, the DOJ will have bigger problems.
5. DOJ Seized a Lot of Personal Material
Another revelation from Monday’s order concerned the amount of personal material the FBI seized. “The Government’s inventory reflects a seizure of approximately 11,000 documents and 1,800 other items from Plaintiff’s residence,” the court wrote. Of the material seized, the court said approximately 100 documents contained classification markings. But the FBI also seized some 500 pages of material potentially protected by attorney-client privilege, medical documents, correspondence related to taxes, and accounting information.
Further, as the court noted, “the Government also has acknowledged that it seized some “[p]ersonal effects without evidentiary value.” And “some of the seized items (e.g., articles of clothing)” were “readily identifiable as personal property.” The FBI had also seized three of Trump’s passports, but those items have already been returned to the former president.
That the FBI seized Trump’s passports, articles of clothing, medical records, and accounting and tax documents during the raid of Mar-a-Lago highlights both the breadth (and lack of particularity) of the search warrant and the potential for the Biden administration to use the search as a fishing expedition.
6. FBI Suggested Trump Committed a Crime by Returning a Torn-Up Document to the NARA
The sixth revelation came not directly from the court’s opinion but from the government filings referenced in Monday’s order and specifically the DOJ’s response brief in opposition to Trump’s request for the appointment of a special master.
In its response brief, the government wrote that on February 9, 2022, the special agent in charge of NARA’s Office of the Inspector General made a referral of Trump to the DOJ. The government further explained (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.48.0_3.pdf) that “the NARA Referral was made on two bases: evidence that classified records had been stored at the Premises until mid-January 2022, and evidence that certain pages of Presidential records had been torn up. Related to the second concern, the NARA Referral included a citation to 18 U.S.C. § 2071.”
This passage proves intriguing for two reasons. First, it appears the special agent in charge made a criminal referral of the former president because documents Trump had returned to the archivist had been torn up at some point. This reference screams “witch hunt,” which leads to the second point: The unredacted portions of the search warrant affidavit (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854.102.1_7.pdf)omit any reference to the torn documents.
Rather, the unredacted portions of the search warrant affidavit speak of the government “conducting a criminal investigation concerning the improper removal and storage of classified information in unauthorized spaces, as well as the unlawful concealment or removal of government records.” The affidavit continues by noting that “the investigation began as a result of a referral the United States National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) sent to the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) on February 9, 2022,” which “were reported by NARA to contain, among other things, highly classified documents intermingled with other records.”
None of the unsealed portions of the affidavit reference the second basis for the referral — that Trump returned torn documents. Maybe such references were black-out, but if so, the DOJ lacked a solid reason for the redactions given they revealed the same facts in the briefing. Or maybe the DOJ realized that using torn documents as a pretext to search the home of a former president would paint the raid as political — because it sure does make the special agent in charge’s referral look political.
7. Leaks Look Bad Too
In granting Trump’s request for the appointment of a special master, Cannon stressed that the special master would help maintain institutional trust in a case heavily politicized. She further noted that a special master would serve to ensure “the integrity of an orderly process amidst swirling allegations of bias and media leaks.” Here, the court noted that “when asked about the dissemination to the media of information relative to the contents of the seized records, Government’s counsel stated that he had no knowledge of any leaks stemming from his team but candidly acknowledged the unfortunate existence of leaks to the press.”
Those “unfortunate” leaks provide further proof of the politicization of this entire affair: In three weeks’ time, Mar-a-Lago has sprung more leaks than have escaped from Special Counsel John Durham’s team over three years. And while the special master may not be able to silence the deep-state leakers, he or she will provide a check to the Biden administration.
But first, the parties must, as the court put it, “meaningfully confer” and then submit a joint filing to the court of a list of proposed special master candidates and a detailed proposal of the master’s duties, limitations, and ability to speak privately with Trump and the government, and other logistical information.
Satori
6th September 2022, 18:38
If I did this right below is a link to Rule 53 of the Federal Rules of Civil procedure. This rule governs the procedural aspects of appointing a Special Master in federal court. (I assume it is the current rule. I'm quite familiar with it and if it is not current, it is substantially what I remember.)
https://www.federalrulesofcivilprocedure.org/frcp/title-vi-trials/rule-53-masters/
As you will gather from Rule 53 a Special Master is an arm of the court and functions as the court with respect to the matter before him or her. Theoretically, a SM is more objective and will have, and will actually take, the time necessary to give the matter the attention it deserves.
A SM does not make final decisions about the ultimate merits of a case. A SM makes written findings of fact and recommendations to the presiding judge about what the SM believes is the appropriate resolution of the matter and legal issues given the facts and the applicable law.
All sides to the dispute then have the right to lodge written objections to any or all of the SM findings and recommendations. That is a formal process with strict timelines.
Ultimately, whether the parties object or do not object to the SM's report, it is the presiding judge who will make the final decision that binds the parties and from which an appeal can be taken.
In my view, while I do believe the appointment of a Special Master will tend towards Trump's favor, both political parties and both sides to the legal proceeding are overplaying the significance of the role of a SM.
I'm not saying the SM will be biased in Trump's favor. I'm saying the processes that come into play, as well as the additional time that it typically takes to resolve matters when a SM is involved, will benefit Trump.
Which, of course, is one reason Trump wanted a SM and the reason the DOJ/FBI et al., did not.
Don't put too much stock on the talking heads who play the Special Master up, or down, too much. Rule 53, and related rules, statutes and case law regarding Special Masters, have been around for a very long time. There is nothing new or particularly earthshaking about this. Who the SM is will be of great importance.
For what it's worth, of course.
Satori
6th September 2022, 19:09
https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1567213488019234816?s=20&t=H95J_L_HQpLP0XGsEm_2qA
1567213488019234816
https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/06/special-master-order-reveals-bidens-direct-involvement-in-trump-raid-and-six-other-bombshells/
Special Master Order Reveals Biden’s Direct Involvement In Trump Raid And Six Other Bombshells
BY: MARGOT CLEVELAND
SEPTEMBER 06, 2022
The federal judge’s 24-page order further calls into question the DOJ’s targeting of Trump.
Afederal judge on Monday granted former President Donald Trump’s request for the appointment of a special master to review the documents seized by the FBI during a raid on his Mar-a-Lago home last month. Presiding Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, further held that the Department of Justice cannot review or use for criminal investigative purposes any material seized pending the review process.
Besides handing Trump a victory in his battle for some oversight of the Biden administration’s digging into his documents, Cannon highlighted several significant facts over the course of her 24-page order (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22275413-trump-special-master-ruling)that further call into question the DOJ’s targeting of Trump.
Here are the seven top-line takeaways:
1. President Biden Was Directly Involved
In the order granting Trump’s request for the appointment of a special master, Cannon began by providing a summary of the backdrop that led to the search. Throughout 2021, Trump and the National Archives and Records Administration (“NARA”), “engaged in conversations concerning records from [Trump’s] time in office,” the court noted. Those discussions resulted in Trump in January 2022 transferring 15 boxes from Mar-a-Lago to NARA. NARA subsequently informed the Department of Justice that some items in the boxes contained markings of “classified national security information.”
Following the archive’s outreach to the Justice Department, NARA notified Trump on April 12, 2022, that it intended to provide the 15 boxes to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Trump’s attorneys sought a delay in the transfer to assess whether any documents contained privileged material. But then, as Cannon wrote, after obtaining a short delay, on May 10, 2022, NARA informed Trump it would proceed with “provid[ing] the FBI access to the records in question, as requested by the incumbent President, beginning as early as Thursday, May 12, 2022.”
In including this quote in her order, Cannon cited the letter the NARA’s acting archivist sent to Trump’s lawyer. That letter explained that Biden had decided to defer to the archivist’s “determination, in consultation with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, regarding whether or not [the archivist] should uphold the former President’s purported ‘protective assertion of executive privilege.’” Acting Archivist Debra Steidel Wall then explained in the letter that based on her consultation with the assistant attorney general for the Office of Legal Counsel, she had decided not to honor Trump’s claim of privilege.
While the media has previously highlighted those aspects of the letter, Monday’s order highlighted a key sentence in that same letter that went less noticed by the press: “NARA will provide the FBI access to the records in question, as requested by the incumbent President, beginning as early as Thursday, May 12, 2022” (emphasis added).
This language indicates that Biden did not merely defer to the NARA but asked the NARA to give the documents to the FBI. Of course, deferring to the NARA’s judgment equated to Biden authorizing the hand-off to the FBI, but this passage suggests a more direct connection between Biden and the investigation into Trump.
2. Timeline of the Trump Targeting Is Suspect
A second significant detail revealed by Monday’s order concerns the timeline of events, which the court exposed by providing a clear chronology. On May 10, 2022, the archivist informed Trump’s lawyers that the “NARA will provide the FBI access to the records in question, as requested by the incumbent President, beginning as early as Thursday, May 12, 2022.” And on May 11, 2022, before the DOJ received possession of the 15 boxes from NARA, the DOJ “obtained a grand jury subpoena,” for “[a]ny and all documents or writings in the custody or control of Donald J. Trump and/or the Office of Donald J. Trump bearing classification markings.”
But why would the DOJ seek a grand jury subpoena for any and all documents in Trump’s possession bearing classification markings before reviewing the material provided by the NARA? And given that the DOJ obtained the subpoena the day after the NARA told Trump’s lawyer “the incumbent President” had requested the archive provide the documents to the FBI, one must ask: Did Biden direct the DOJ to obtain the grand jury subpoena?
3. Not So Fast Joe — Trump’s Executive Privilege Can’t Be So Quickly Sidestepped
Another important detail from Monday’s order concerned the court’s handling of Trump’s request for a review of the seized material to address issues of “executive privilege.” In opposing Trump’s request for a special master, the Biden administration argued that Trump lacked the right to assert “executive privilege” against the current executive branch. The court concluded that the Biden administration’s “position arguably overstates the law,” noting that the Supreme Court has not “rule[d] out the possibility of a former President overcoming an incumbent President on executive privilege matters.”
“Further, just this year,” Cannon continued, “the Supreme Court noted that, at least in connection with a congressional investigation, ‘[t]he questions whether and in what circumstances a former President may obtain a court order preventing disclosure of privileged records from his tenure in office, in the face of a determination by the incumbent President to waive the privilege, are unprecedented and raise serious and substantial concerns.’” To protect former President Trump’s ability to raise a question of executive privilege, then, a special master should review the documents and make an initial assessment, the court concluded.
This analysis tees up the possibility that Trump will later assert executive privilege, prompting a showdown with the Biden administration.
4. Members of the Investigative Team Saw Confidential Attorney-Client Documents
While the Biden administration had not reviewed the seized documents to assess any potential executive privilege concerns, a Privilege Review Team had screened the material to determine if it is protected by attorney-client privilege. Because it had already screened the material, the government objected to the appointment of a special master to conduct “another round of screening,” arguing in essence, that such screening would be “unnecessary.”
“The Court takes a different view on this record,” Cannon explained in rejecting the government’s argument. The court then stressed that the evidence suggests the Privilege Review Team’s initial screening for potentially privileged material was faulty.
“The Privilege Review Team’s Report references at least two instances in which members of the Investigative Team were exposed to material that was then delivered to the Privilege Review Team and, following another review, designated as potentially privileged material,” Cannon noted. “Those instances alone, even if entirely inadvertent, yield questions about the adequacy of the filter review process.”
The federal judge further expressed concern about the fact that “the Filter Review Team’s Report does not indicate that any steps were taken after these instances of exposure to wall off the two tainted members of the Investigation Team,” with the “tainted members” being the ones who had seen the material presumed protected by attorney-client privilege.
While a special master cannot address the issue of the “tainted members” on the investigative team, the court’s highlighting of the problem will likely push the DOJ to keep those agents away from any related part of the investigation. But what the special master can do is review the documents and determine if others were protected by attorney-client privilege. If so, the DOJ will have bigger problems.
5. DOJ Seized a Lot of Personal Material
Another revelation from Monday’s order concerned the amount of personal material the FBI seized. “The Government’s inventory reflects a seizure of approximately 11,000 documents and 1,800 other items from Plaintiff’s residence,” the court wrote. Of the material seized, the court said approximately 100 documents contained classification markings. But the FBI also seized some 500 pages of material potentially protected by attorney-client privilege, medical documents, correspondence related to taxes, and accounting information.
Further, as the court noted, “the Government also has acknowledged that it seized some “[p]ersonal effects without evidentiary value.” And “some of the seized items (e.g., articles of clothing)” were “readily identifiable as personal property.” The FBI had also seized three of Trump’s passports, but those items have already been returned to the former president.
That the FBI seized Trump’s passports, articles of clothing, medical records, and accounting and tax documents during the raid of Mar-a-Lago highlights both the breadth (and lack of particularity) of the search warrant and the potential for the Biden administration to use the search as a fishing expedition.
6. FBI Suggested Trump Committed a Crime by Returning a Torn-Up Document to the NARA
The sixth revelation came not directly from the court’s opinion but from the government filings referenced in Monday’s order and specifically the DOJ’s response brief in opposition to Trump’s request for the appointment of a special master.
In its response brief, the government wrote that on February 9, 2022, the special agent in charge of NARA’s Office of the Inspector General made a referral of Trump to the DOJ. The government further explained (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.48.0_3.pdf) that “the NARA Referral was made on two bases: evidence that classified records had been stored at the Premises until mid-January 2022, and evidence that certain pages of Presidential records had been torn up. Related to the second concern, the NARA Referral included a citation to 18 U.S.C. § 2071.”
This passage proves intriguing for two reasons. First, it appears the special agent in charge made a criminal referral of the former president because documents Trump had returned to the archivist had been torn up at some point. This reference screams “witch hunt,” which leads to the second point: The unredacted portions of the search warrant affidavit (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854.102.1_7.pdf)omit any reference to the torn documents.
Rather, the unredacted portions of the search warrant affidavit speak of the government “conducting a criminal investigation concerning the improper removal and storage of classified information in unauthorized spaces, as well as the unlawful concealment or removal of government records.” The affidavit continues by noting that “the investigation began as a result of a referral the United States National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) sent to the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) on February 9, 2022,” which “were reported by NARA to contain, among other things, highly classified documents intermingled with other records.”
None of the unsealed portions of the affidavit reference the second basis for the referral — that Trump returned torn documents. Maybe such references were black-out, but if so, the DOJ lacked a solid reason for the redactions given they revealed the same facts in the briefing. Or maybe the DOJ realized that using torn documents as a pretext to search the home of a former president would paint the raid as political — because it sure does make the special agent in charge’s referral look political.
7. Leaks Look Bad Too
In granting Trump’s request for the appointment of a special master, Cannon stressed that the special master would help maintain institutional trust in a case heavily politicized. She further noted that a special master would serve to ensure “the integrity of an orderly process amidst swirling allegations of bias and media leaks.” Here, the court noted that “when asked about the dissemination to the media of information relative to the contents of the seized records, Government’s counsel stated that he had no knowledge of any leaks stemming from his team but candidly acknowledged the unfortunate existence of leaks to the press.”
Those “unfortunate” leaks provide further proof of the politicization of this entire affair: In three weeks’ time, Mar-a-Lago has sprung more leaks than have escaped from Special Counsel John Durham’s team over three years. And while the special master may not be able to silence the deep-state leakers, he or she will provide a check to the Biden administration.
But first, the parties must, as the court put it, “meaningfully confer” and then submit a joint filing to the court of a list of proposed special master candidates and a detailed proposal of the master’s duties, limitations, and ability to speak privately with Trump and the government, and other logistical information.
Thanks mountain_jim. I had not seen your post, nor had I read the Judge's order, before I wrote my post #235. I'm going to do both of those things now.
mountain_jim
7th September 2022, 19:28
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=1050,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/115/282/175/original/8721a8652f832646.jpeg
thepainterdoug
7th September 2022, 20:56
we can all see they plan on winning this all. they will not stop at any level to take trump down. this is their motive and their complete agenda. they want a 1 party system. theirs.
when trump said he would drain the swamp, they heard loud and clear. and i dont care how much someone tries to tell me, he's the swamp , I will still go with him, an outsider over the deep corrupt mud and dirt swamp he walked into . he is a threat, and they have coordinated all in their power, media tech money, to stop him.
would you have ever believed the words, "make america great again" would disturb so many people?
TargeT
7th September 2022, 21:50
we can all see they plan on winning this all. they will not stop at any level to take trump down. this is their motive and their complete agenda. they want a 1 party system. theirs.
when trump said he would drain the swamp, they heard loud and clear. and i dont care how much someone tries to tell me, he's the swamp , I will still go with him, an outsider over the deep corrupt mud and dirt swamp he walked into . he is a threat, and they have coordinated all in their power, media tech money, to stop him.
I'd say it's mostly clear that there is a one party system, but "populist" elected individuals don't really fit into that, I'd say the most obvious examples of that are Trump and J. Ventura (both of which have talking points / values / mentalities that are very unpopular with the established power base (or so it seems)).
I would trust trump's "drain the swamp" a bit more if it seemed to have done something, however it is a very common tactic to wait until 2nd term to do "dramatic things"; so maybe that's it? I'd say at this point it's pretty clear that he will either be re-elected or be a focal point for a serious shift if that doesn't happen (especially in light of the topic of this thread).
would you have ever believed the words, "make america great again" would disturb so many people?
in my mind using the phrase "extremist maga" pejoratively is the most ironic... yes I EXTREMELY want to make america great again. If that is an effective rallying call to any large section of the population then I will have to re-evaluate my understanding of the state of the average American, however I think all we have seen (heavily curated for most consumers) for the last few years are the "loud minority" and the quiet majority is getting a bit fed up; especially in light of the epic failures of entertainment being heavily focused on "the message" and failing horribly (like right now) before our eyes.
ExomatrixTV
7th September 2022, 22:45
Maralago Raid Updates: FBI Took Medical Records, Court Halts Investigation, Water-Muddying:
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FBI did a no-no: archive.ph/UHQgJ (https://archive.ph/UHQgJ)
A halt: archive.ph/HCdsN (https://archive.ph/HCdsN)
"Well we're not sure they were declassified but it doesn't matter anyways!": archive.ph/ldrIW (https://archive.ph/ldrIW)
ExomatrixTV
8th September 2022, 02:28
Trump Derangement Syndrome Hits Critical Mass as Liberals Reject Basic Due Process:
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If Trump is soundly beaten, pathetic, and rejected, why is every leftoid arguing for suspending basic investigative procedure and due process in favor of kneejerk tribunalism?
Marrianne crystal mama: archive.ph/GKcKk (https://archive.ph/GKcKk)
Brooklyn "my wifes son": archive.ph/fEqnx (https://archive.ph/fEqnx)
norman
8th September 2022, 09:53
This is a wildcard
Patrick Bergy: Did Byrne, Flynn, Giuliani & Powell Try To Set Up Trump?
I can believe Giuliani and up to a point even Byrne, but Flynn and Powell ?
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/patrick-bergy-did-byrne-flynn-giuliani-powell-try-to-set-up-trump/
ExomatrixTV
8th September 2022, 19:42
Bill Barrs Bizarre Doublespeak on the FBI Raid and Indicting Trump:
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"They got evidence but should't charge"... what?: https://archive.ph/ZXBc1
mountain_jim
8th September 2022, 23:08
https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1567975553675968512?s=20&t=5F62t-zY9D2hsa5mGXwK4Q
1567975553675968512
norman
9th September 2022, 01:58
PATRICK BERGY : DIGITAL PEARL HARBOR: QUESTIONING THE NARRATIVE
https://odysee.com/@PROJECTCAMELOT:d/PATRICK-BERGY-INTERVIEWfinal1%281%29:2
Of interest to this thread, in particular, is that according to Bergy, Patrick Burn gave an 8 hour testimony to the Jan 6th enquiry followed by a previous witness being called back in, then very soon afterwards the warrant for the Mar a Lago raid was issued ?
mountain_jim
9th September 2022, 11:40
https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1568070765928452099?s=20&t=l8M_CsC8J2J1L2tyr1pP1Q
1568070765928452099
mountain_jim
9th September 2022, 17:37
https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/this-is-declas
This is DECLAS!
Clandestine
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72980484-8938-4c1f-8275-e322071b51b0_700x525.webp
HUGE revelations pertaining to the content of the documents seized by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago. Trump made some comments to Newsmax and now today Devin Nunes saying he thinks that the docs are about Russiagate.
In Report today from Newsmax, Trump claims he kept them under Executive Privilege, to PROTECT THEM FROM BEING DESTROYED BY THE DEEP STATE.1
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"I think they thought it was something to do with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax,"
Initially, I found this peculiar, because Trump himself confirmed some of the docs were pertaining to the Iran Deal last week, when he retruthed this post from Paul Sperry.
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F864323c7-8b03-4fd7-9d9f-b9385ccf04b5_748x1373.jpeg
But based on Trump’s most recent comments to Newsmax, the docs are about essentially EVERYTHING! Trump said that the documents in question “expose a Deep State plot” against him. Which is the reason he Declassified them, and took the docs for protection. There are reportedly “11 sets of documents”, the FBI were interested in.
So what are the docs about? ALL of the docs about Deep State’s crimes that Trump was concerned they might destroy. That could cover a wide variety of subjects. Thus far, we know some of the docs to pertain to the Iran Deal and Russiagate/Crossfire Hurricane, but what other crimes is Trump aware of that he might want to prevent the Deep State from destroying? Uranium One? Libya? Haiti? Benghazi? 9/11? JFK Assassination?
Whatever else is in those docs, Trump is insinuating the FBI are looking to retrieve them to prevent him from showing it to the American People.
"They were afraid that things were in there — part of their scam material."
Do you all see what’s happening here… all of the docs in question are the DECLAS docs!!!
All the docs we have been waiting for for years… Trump took them home under Executive Privilege (just like Obama), and now the Deep State are after them. And now, somehow, Trump managed to get the entire public demanding to see what’s in those documents…
The normies are unknowingly begging to see docs about the Iran Deal, Russiagate, and the rest of the treasure trove of proof of Deep State crimes.
Which is why he is so adamant about making them public, and why the FBI/DOJ are feverishly redacting anything and everything about the content of the documents.
The stage is set for DECLAS. The normies are heavily anticipating these documents. They know the docs exist. It’s the most talked about story on Earth. They are salivating with anticipation, because the media have told them it leads to Trump’s demise.
While the Left think they are closing in, Trump just confirmed the boomerang is in effect. The docs don’t implicate him, they implicate the enemy in all of their most heinous crimes, and Trump wants them public.
I’m not sure how it goes down, or how DECLAS looks “legally”, but what I do know is, the entire world are BEGGING to see what’s in those docs. And the docs are all of the Deep State crimes. The DECLAS docs that have been promised to us for years now. The docs that will be the nail in the coffin of the enemy.
Folks… the FBI raid opened the door to DECLAS… whether Trump controls the FBI or not, its quite apparent Trump controls the situation.
-Clandestine
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-declassify-russia/2022/09/08/id/1086552/
Trump Was Worried Biden, 'Deep State' Would Destroy Russian Probe Documents
Former President Donald Trump was worried that his enemies would destroy certain Russia-related documents that exonerated him, and pushed to declassify the records during his final days in office.
Trump, believing the documents would expose a "Deep State" plot against him, told several people that he was concerned that incoming President Joe Biden's administration would "shred," bury, or destroy "the evidence," Rolling Stone reported Wednesday.
The documents were related to the federal investigation into the since discredited story about Russian collusion with Trump's 2016 campaign.
By Charlie McCarthy | Thursday, 08 September 2022 09:50 AM EDT
Former President Donald Trump was worried that his enemies would destroy certain Russia-related documents that exonerated him, and pushed to declassify the records during his final days in office.
Trump, believing the documents would expose a "Deep State" plot against him, told several people that he was concerned that incoming President Joe Biden's administration would "shred," bury, or destroy "the evidence," Rolling Stone reported Wednesday.
The documents were related to the federal investigation into the since discredited story about Russian collusion with Trump's 2016 campaign.
Trump and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows worked to declassify information right up to when Biden took the oath of office, Rolling Stone said.
The Rolling Stone story came a month after FBI agents raided Trump's Florida home with a warrant saying the former president had 11 sets of classified documents (https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-fbi/2022/08/12/id/1082895/) at Mar-a-Lago, and that the DOJ had probable cause to conduct the search based on possible Espionage Act violations.
Trump and allies, however, say the documents had been declassified. (https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-nuclear-documents-fbi-raid/2022/08/12/id/1082939/)
Neither Trump nor the Department of Justice (DOJ) have said much about what documents were taken during the Aug. 8 raid.
The former president, though, did hint that Russia-related documents could be among the materials the FBI sought.
"I think they thought it was something to do with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax," Trump told a Newsmax host during a Sept. 1 radio interview.
"They were afraid that things were in there — part of their scam material."
John Ratcliffe, former director of National Intelligence, told CBS that, "it wouldn't surprise me if there were records related to [Russia] there."
Ratcliffe, a month before the 2020 election, declassified intelligence detailing how the U.S. had obtained information about "Russian intelligence analysis" on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Critics of Ratcliffe's move said declassifications could out sensitive sources.
A day before leaving office, Trump sent a memo to the acting attorney general and intelligence officials to say the DOJ had sent him a binder of materials on the FBI's so-called "Crossfire Hurricane" investigation in late December 2020 "so I could determine to what extent materials in the binder should be released in unclassified form."
The materials, according to journalist John Solomon, Trump's representative to the National Archives, included "transcripts of intercepts made by the FBI of Trump aides, a declassified copy of the final FISA warrant approved by an intelligence court, and the tasking orders and debriefings of the two main confidential human sources."
Meadows later in his memoir wrote that he "personally went through every page" of the documents to make sure the declassified portions didn't "disclose sources and methods." He also described his frustration by what he considered "push back" from the DOJ and FBI.
mountain_jim
9th September 2022, 19:34
Brian Cates
Forwarded from
RealTimeNews™ (https://t.me/drawandstrikechannel/53549)
Steve Bannon broke the news during an interview on the Charlie Kirk Show:
35 FBI Raids were conducted yesterday against Trump allies across the country.
@dailyrealtimenews
https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1568316830011326465?s=20&t=LeA9awbM9OaNOrh-Z68chg
1568316830011326465
norman
9th September 2022, 19:48
"I think they thought it was something to do with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax,"
Initially, I found this peculiar, because Trump himself confirmed some of the docs were pertaining to the Iran Deal last week, when he retruthed this post from Paul Sperry.
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F864323c7-8b03-4fd7-9d9f-b9385ccf04b5_748x1373.jpeg
But based on Trump’s most recent comments to Newsmax, the docs are about essentially EVERYTHING! Trump said that the documents in question “expose a Deep State plot” against him. Which is the reason he Declassified them, and took the docs for protection. There are reportedly “11 sets of documents”, the FBI were interested in.
If Iran floats to the top of this, THIS (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119469-Leuren-Moret-Ancient-IranianBlood-Lines&p=1516957&viewfull=1#post1516957) Avalon post is a must listen/watch.
It's a 2016 interview with Leuren Moret. "Stuff we never knew about how we got here".
Lots of revelatory dots joined. An example, I think most here now realise Canada is under the jackboot of the son of Fidel Castro, but WHO WAS CASTRO, himself ? A member of a very elite Persian (Iranian) bloodline that has embedded family members running lots of institutions in our western society.
norman
10th September 2022, 09:35
initially, i found this peculiar, because trump himself confirmed some of the docs were pertaining to the iran deal last week, when he retruthed this post from paul sperry.
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3a%2f%2fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2fpublic%2fimages%2f864323c7-8b03-4fd7-9d9f-b9385ccf04b5_748x1373.jpeg
but based on trump’s most recent comments to newsmax, the docs are about essentially everything! Trump said that the documents in question “expose a deep state plot” against him. Which is the reason he declassified them, and took the docs for protection. There are reportedly “11 sets of documents”, the fbi were interested in.
So what are the docs about? All of the docs about deep state’s crimes that trump was concerned they might destroy. That could cover a wide variety of subjects. thus far, we know some of the docs to pertain to the iran deal and russiagate/crossfire hurricane, but what other crimes is trump aware of that he might want to prevent the deep state from destroying? Uranium one? Libya? Haiti? Benghazi? 9/11? Jfk assassination?
The IRAN DEAL
According to Kameran Faily, who, he and his ancestors before him, have been central key negotiators in middle eastern affairs for many decades, the Iran deal went like THIS:
Kameran Faily - The Iran deal (that Trump partially snuffed out later)
https://app.box.com/s/69yw182suou18bjw29k7ob8t04n9yijy
[ a 17 minute excerpt from a much longer interview with him in 2015 ]
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