Upper back tooth and gum problem

[Scorpio Girl]

Hi Folks, I'm wondering whether there is anybody out there who has experienced an ache above their tooth line in the gum. When I rub my finger over my cheek in that area it is sore. The problem is right above my last molar on the right side of my mouth. I was told by an orthodontist that I would lose that tooth a couple of years ago when I was experiencing tooth decay, as I had just lost the tooth next door to it. So I was damned if I was going to lose that back one so I religiously used a very diluted mixture of MMS in my waterpick. I fully intend to still keep it and the rest of my teeth have benefited greatly as my hygienist has told me.

But my problem is other than trying to ram my waterpik up the gum and try and clean it out twice a day, does anybody out there have any other solutions in the form of supplements to take, foods to eat or protocols that will help fix this. I daren't go to the dentist as I'll probably be told it has to go. Ka Ching Ka Ching

I would be most grateful if I get any info asap as I am having to eat on the other side and I can definitely feel an ache, subtly at the moment, radiating out of my upper gum line.

[thepainterdoug]

I always take floss and colloidal silver. I swish colloidal silver into my mouth, hold it. take floss and cut into any area of swelling or discomfort and make sure c silver is soaked in. gargle with it, swallow it

repeat.

i cure all tooth and gum issues with silver

[Scorpio Girl]

In what form is the colloidal silver as we can buy many colloidal silver liquid formulations here, I guess you mean one with a high percentage of colloidal silver.

[CurEus]

Rahm Emmanual has a book called cure tooth decay naturally, it is acout diet and other changes to help.

[Johnnycomelately]

Sorry to hear of your predicament. Tooth pain is the most annoying kind of pain.

Have you thought of trying a traditional Chinese medicine approach? Some kind of potion or salve made from portions of rare and exotic animals? I wonder how to use penguins. ~8)

[Satori]

If it is an infection an antibiotic will do the trick. Your dentist can diagnose that and prescribe an antibiotic if appropriate.

[norman]

I think you are already on the right track with MMS. But go the next step. Actually dose yourself with it using the basic protocol of a 3 drop mix every hour for several hours a day. Try doing it as much of the day as you can for 3 days, even if it's only 4 or 5 hours a day of dosing.

I say this because I've just been dealing with pretty much the exact same thing as you. in the same place too. I also added the occasional mouth rinse of even stronger MMS.

The pain you describe sounds like an infection in the bone. Mine was too, i saw it in an xray image at the dentist. Eventually the dentist drew up a treatment plan for me that would have cost me 500 quid and 3 teeth. I gave him 40 quid for the consultation and left his office.

At home I immediately started dosing with MMS. I quickly got up to a 3 drop dose and could feel the MMS buzz in my whole body so I levelled off at that dose and stuck to it as much as I could without eating food for long stretches of the day. Ling story short, I got a total of about 2 and a half days of dosing doime in about 4 days ( if you know what I mean ). In other words it wasn't a perfect run of dosing.

But, I'm chuffed to report that I seem to have completely nailed the infection and the pain. There were times while the MMS was clearing out of my system where I felt fresh slightly different pain and I worried that I'd failed to get the job done, but after a couple more days I was tikety boo and pleased with myself. I understand that there will be new flareups from within the tooth from time to time, but in future I won't hang about for weeks in pain mustering up the courage to call the dentist, I'll just dose with MMS again as soon as I feel anything bad starting to happen.

[thepainterdoug]

it doesnt take much you can use 200 ppm, or even 500 ppm. znd im sure evan 50 ppm as long as silver is present

[Mike Gorman]

Speaking as someone who has lost all of my upper teeth, I won't go into the reasons but a combination of genetic inheritance of a vulnerability to gum disease/age and also certain habits resulted in my losing the lot over the past 10 years= I now am having a full upper denture made for me-I do have experience with problem teeth.
I suggest upping your intake of vitamin D3, this is such a beneficial, and critical part of the human immune system and calcium/bone processes!
Flossing is useful, and also vitamin C is terrific for reducing inflammation, and keeping scurvy at bay, mega dosing is advised, 10,000 IU's per day - definitely good for our teeth.
I can also recommend removing infected, and chronically decaying teeth as these can severely compromise your overall health, better to be rid of them than spend thousands trying to save them-but that is my opinion.
Best of luck.

[Cherub]

Hi Scorpio Girl

I have a similar problem with my tooth, only I have sensitivity to cold and cannot bite down on that side without a sharp pain in the tooth ever since having a filling done ( been years)

Prior to that I was experiencing severe inflammation in the gums and mouth and the dentist couldnt find what the problems was. I eventually among other things, did a trial and error elimination of medications and oral care, only to discover that suddenly i had acquired an allergy to normal toothpaste and mouthwash and had to go off it (the fluoride) .

So the beginning of the year I started getting random pain in the tooth and was told that the only remedy for this is a root canal, which I rejected completely.

I did colloidal silver for a while but that didn't help as much as I had hoped, although it might work differently for you.

What really worked for me was surapine needle tea. I only drink rooibos tea so I drink a combination of that with fennel or rooibos and cancer bush tea.

I use 2 diffent types of natural toothpaste for night and day as well as remineralizing mouthwash, calcium and magnesium, Boron, vit d3 with coconut, collegan peptides and MSM.

After brushing at night I put a small amount of toothpaste on my finger and put it on the problem gum area before sleeping. I floss but try not to fiddle too much with the tooth and gum because it becomes extra sensitive and painful. I know it's hard not to.

I have noticed that my hormones, sinus, back and neck tension and outside cold seems to play a role.

Right now I am able to live with it since it doesn't bother me that much, however should there come a time when it does, I will remove it.

I pray you find a protocol perfect for you.

All the best and keep well.

[ExomatrixTV]

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Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate) has been shown to help kill bacteria that leads to gum disease and has contributed to better gum health when used without bleaching products. Baking soda helps break up biofilm that irritates the gums and is useful for removing superficial stains.


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I avoid Sodium Fluoride at all cost! (it is poison!)

[greybeard]

This may have been mentioned -- it was sugested to me some time back --IT WORKS.

Oregano Oil.

Put several drops on cotton wool then apply to the sore teeth - gum.
You will curse me at first but when the tase and discomfort goes so will the pain.
Several sessions and the pain was gone permanently.
It seems to reduce the swelling and inflammation -- even works on minor abscess or problem between teeth.
Best wishes
Chris

[Ratszinger]

You've probably developed an abscess and it can lead to a more serious infection. You should see a dentist about having that tooth removed or the other option if you have insurance is a root canal and a crown. Depending on which tooth there can be four or even a fifth canal in those bigger upper teeth so it will likely require a visit to the specialist for the root canal first. He'll likely put you on ant-biotics before doing it tho, and then have you back. Then once the root canal is done you can decide on the crown, porcelain fused to metal for example would be cheaper than gold but both are an option. The first thing the general dentist will do if he saw you today is get an x-ray of that tooth to see what is going on there. He could actually get you started on the anti-biotics right away and you should be on them quite honestly. Good luck.

[9ideon]

Just be careful in your assessment of a rootcanal, personally not something I would ever entertain, ever! If you are thinking about it, please read both articles, actually, everybody should.

Article (https://www.dentalperfections.co.uk/root-canal-risks-hampstead.html)
Article II (https://davidhoward.com.au/why-you-should-avoid-root-canals-like-the-plague/)

[Bill Ryan]

Just be careful in your assessment of a rootcanal, personally not something I would ever entertain, ever! If you are thinking about it, please read both articles, actually, everybody should.

Article (https://www.dentalperfections.co.uk/root-canal-risks-hampstead.html)
Article II (https://davidhoward.com.au/why-you-should-avoid-root-canals-like-the-plague/)I do second that. I had a root canal problem over 20 years ago, and consulted my dentist, a remarkably aware woman.

She lent me a book of hers to read overnight — what dentist ever does that?! — about the research of Dr Weston Price, and invited me to make my own informed decision about it.

I devoured the book, went back the next day, and asked to please have the infected tooth completely extracted. I'm certain that was the right choice. Root canal treatment can cause significant chronic health problems, but few dentists will ever acknowledge this.

Avalon threads that might be useful: :flower:



Root Canals: Cause of Many Degenerative Diseases (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65806-Root-Canals-Cause-of-Many-Degenerative-Diseases&p=762827&viewfull=1#post762827)
Pulling root canal tooth... need advice! (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56504-Pulling-root-canal-tooth...-need-advice-&p=643398&viewfull=1#post643398)
Help ! Need holistic dental information (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52986-Help---Need-holistic-dental-information&p=596975&viewfull=1#post596975)

[JackMcThorn]

I had a severe infection near my left lateral incisor. They did a root canal but I could not afford to get it capped. [Also got the root canal done without anaesthetic because I could not afford that either.] Then the root canal failed and I lost the tooth. I have a prosthetic tooth that cost me $2k american. They basically put a stainless steel threaded piece into my jaw and screwed in a pin to glue the new tooth onto. It's a process too, when the tooth is removed, you have to wait three months for the new tooth. I really don't recommend these processes nor do I recommend no anaesthetic.

I wondered why they didn't put me on any antibiotics for the infection. I thought I might have been able to save the tooth if the infection problem was addressed properly.

There was a lot of weird dentists where I was in america. This one place my ex-wife went to was telling her she had 'micro-cavities' and quoted her an outrageous financing option. I made an appointment because I do not have any cavities [even still right now in my middle 4os.] to see what they would say to me. Same thing. A ridiculous amount of 'micro-cavities' and a future bill of $25k. It was insane. My regular dentist still said I had zero cavities. This particular dentist promoted the fact that they were scientologists to top it off. So I convinced my ex-wife at the time to go somewhere else. These people were literal rip off artists and they are still in business.

So the comments here in this thread are really valuable and should help you make some good decisions. I would try to deal with the infection first and foremost.

[RunningDeer]

My repost from the thread Dangerous Dental Procedures (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118242-Dangerous-Dental-Procedures&p=1491003&viewfull=1#post1491003).




My ex-husband had a root canal done by a specialist and then went to his regular dentist for the cap. As he told it, the infection was so bad the dentist and hygienist backed away when he went to replace the temporary cap with a permanent one. It wasn’t long after he ended up in the hospital with a full body infection. (I forget the medical term - Septicemia, or sepsis, is the clinical name for blood poisoning by bacteria?) It was so touch and go for him that all his kids flew in.

He pulled through and finished his recuperation in a rehab facility for another 6-8 weeks. He never was the same after that. His memory was dull. He was down to skin and bones, and aged about 20 years.

Less than two years later, he passed. He had battled with Lyme’s disease for years and waited out the pain as per usual. Long story short, it was cancer not Lyme’s. The doctor gave him a couple of months and he died a little over a week later.

It's possible the Lyme’s disease was the underlying reason the body didn't heal from the root canal. I had two root canals done in the early 1980's. Knowing what I know today, I wouldn't go that route.


Just be careful in your assessment of a rootcanal, personally not something I would ever entertain, ever! If you are thinking about it, please read both articles, actually, everybody should.

Article (https://www.dentalperfections.co.uk/root-canal-risks-hampstead.html)
Article II (https://davidhoward.com.au/why-you-should-avoid-root-canals-like-the-plague/)

[betoobig]

If in pain put in the toothbrush peroxide plus baking soda, works miracles.... after a few minutes pain goes away. And keep up with mms. Colloidal silver also is wonderfull.
Now this is curious bc i am having several people with the gums issue specially when energies hit stronger (part of ascension synpthoms)... another thing i advise is to take away the focus of attention from the pain area by praising any other area which doesnt hurt. Once we take away our focus from there we are giving control to the very cells involucrated in the issue and they know what to do, each cell has its own connection to source and can get energy anytime is needed but our egos know too much and our attention to it doesn´t allow the cells to do as they know. Hope this helps. Much love

[Ratszinger]

An infection is nothing to mess with. The mouth is full of blood supply, hence the red tissue! This can lead to premature death if not treated correctly in people and it has, including King Tut. If it gets to a, "Septic' state you waited too long. Deal with the infection. Spend the money to repair the tooth and don't make the mistake so many make that think just because they have been on anti-biotics for about 7 days and they feel better so they don't do anything else. All you did was treat the symptoms you have not relieved and removed the problem. If you are opposed to root canals, (Of which I have two myself with never a problem and I still ahve all my teeth I was born to have) then have the tooth yanked to save yourself because if you ignore it the infection, which I am 99.9% sure you have will spread. This can lead to other health concerns with your heart and more so please I'm begging dont' listen to hocus pocus based on superstition, and myth. Get the proper treatment and deal with it to remove the problem.

[TomKat]

Hi Folks, I'm wondering whether there is anybody out there who has experienced an ache above their tooth line in the gum. When I rub my finger over my cheek in that area it is sore. The problem is right above my last molar on the right side of my mouth. I was told by an orthodontist that I would lose that tooth a couple of years ago when I was experiencing tooth decay, as I had just lost the tooth next door to it. So I was damned if I was going to lose that back one so I religiously used a very diluted mixture of MMS in my waterpick. I fully intend to still keep it and the rest of my teeth have benefited greatly as my hygienist has told me.

But my problem is other than trying to ram my waterpik up the gum and try and clean it out twice a day, does anybody out there have any other solutions in the form of supplements to take, foods to eat or protocols that will help fix this. I daren't go to the dentist as I'll probably be told it has to go. Ka Ching Ka Ching

I would be most grateful if I get any info asap as I am having to eat on the other side and I can definitely feel an ache, subtly at the moment, radiating out of my upper gum line.

Sounds like you might need a root canal However,if you let them pull that tooth, your jaw will whither with time, so if you don't immediately get an implant, you probably won't be able to get one later.

[TomKat]

...


Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate) has been shown to help kill bacteria that leads to gum disease and has contributed to better gum health when used without bleaching products. Baking soda helps break up biofilm that irritates the gums and is useful for removing superficial stains.


I use "Arm & Hammer" Baking Soda for solving countless personal (health) issues & problems



Be careful not to wear down your anamel with baking soda. Toothpaste has a polishing effect, unlike the sandpaper effect of baking soda.

[grapevine]

My father used to swear by a paste of zinc and clove oil for teeth, but only as a temporary measure.

[Frankie Pancakes]

The problem with the mms not working is that below gum line the mms can't get to it. So you need to incorporate dmso with the mixed mms before adding water. This will deliver it to the area in need.

MMS and internal dental abscesses: update by Jim Humble
In the same "Project Camelot" interview quoted above, Jim Humble related the following: "[I've had] all kinds of people who had terrible terrible diseases of the mouth, including abscessed teeth. Now for a long time I was pretty much convinced that if a tooth is abscessed from the inside you couldn't get MMS into it and therefore you couldn't cure it if it was abscessed from inside.
But the fact of the matter is, one of my guys said 'hey I am gonna try that DMSO [Dimethyl sulfoxide] and see if it'll soak in'. So he put it in and brushed his mouth with a real light soft toothbrush for a while just dipping it in the DMSO and MMS combination ... and in about two days, the abscess in his tooth went away. Now that's a total impossibility, but it worked. So it does really great things with the mouth."[3]
It is permissible to wonder here if brushing with the above MMS/DMSO combination would also be effective for cavitation infections.

[GoldenShield]

Hello,

What worked for me was Dr. Schultz's tooth and gum formula plus clove oil directly on the tooth.
Before bed...Indian Clay or Aztec clay packed on the outside of the face where the tooth is located 1/4 - 1/3 inch thick
wrap face with ace bandage and go to sleep...take off when u wake up
I was diagnosed with a abcessed tooth that needed a root canal
After 3 days of the clay i went back to the dentist for evaluation and the abcess was gone and i no longer needed a root canal.
That was 5 years ago and i just repeat the procedure 1-2 times a year.
Lots of good advice in the posts above with baking soda, hydrogen peroxide, CS, MMS, etc...have used those 2
Bob Becks Magnetic Pulsar on the cheek where the tooth is located takes pain away instantly for me.
good teeth from birth to death is a good source...free on archive.org....https://archive.org/details/teeth_202002a

Thank u for the info