View Full Version : Daria Dugina, Aleksandr Dugin's daughter, assassinated in Moscow
Chester
20th August 2022, 22:51
If true (and I'm trying to get confirmation) - this is a BIG DEAL.
https://www.rt.com/russia/561233-moscow-car-blast-dugin/
Chester
20th August 2022, 22:55
It appears true... my Russian friends are telling me its all over the news there. Be ready, folks - this is truly a BIG DEAL.
Bill Ryan
20th August 2022, 22:59
From Britain's Daily Mail. I'll not copy the entire article, but the shrieking headline is enough.
(My comment: Dugin isn't Russia's 'war mastermind' at all, nor is he all that close to Putin. But for sure, this is very significant.)
https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11130731/Daughter-Ukraine-war-mastermind-blown-pieces-Moscow-car-bomb.html
Daughter of Ukraine war mastermind 'is blown to pieces in Moscow car bomb': Darya Dugin 'assassinated in attack meant for her father Alexander' – one of Putin's closest aides often dubbed the Russian leader's 'brain'
Le Chat
20th August 2022, 22:59
Can't connect to the original link...
Satori
20th August 2022, 23:04
Yet another G-d awful act of terrorism. What a sick, f’ed up act of cowardice.
Bill Ryan
20th August 2022, 23:05
Can't connect to the original link...That's because RT is censored in many countries.
Here's their whole article (https://www.rt.com/russia/561233-moscow-car-blast-dugin/):
Car blast kills daughter of Russian philosopher Dugin – reports
The victim is alleged to be 30yo Daria Dugina
https://cdni.russiatoday.com/files/2022.08/m/6301618085f5406f2d524a2e.jpg
A powerful explosion ripped apart an SUV near Moscow on Saturday night, instantly killing its driver. According to preliminary reports, the victim was identified as Daria Dugina, the daughter of controversial Russian thinker Alexander Dugin, who is sometimes painted in the West as one of the Kremlin’s “chief ideological masterminds.”
The incident took place on a highway some 20 kilometers west of Moscow around 21:45 local time, with witnesses claiming that the blast rocked the vehicle right in the middle of the roads, scattering debris all around.
The car then reportedly crashed into a fence, fully engulfed in flames, according to photos and videos from the scene.
Emergency services working at the scene said at least one person was inside the car and was instantly killed in the blast, a female whose body was recovered burned beyond recognition. However, multiple Russian telegram channels and media sources alleged that the woman inside the vehicle was a 30yo Daria Dugina.
https://t.me/breakingmash/37549
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Authorities have yet to confirm the identity of the victim, but Alexander Dugin was spotted at the scene soon after the incident, visibly shocked according to several videos circulating on social media.
https://t.me/breakingmash/37551
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Daria Dugina is a political commentator and daughter of Professor Aleksandr Dugin – a controversial philosopher known for his anti-Western, “neo-Eurasian” views, who has repeatedly been painted by Western media as one of the driving forces behind President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy. In recent months, CBS dubbed him “the far-right theorist behind Putin's plan” while while the Washington Post oped called him a “far-right mystical writer who helped shape Putin’s view of Russia.”
In Russia, however, the supposed shadowy puppet master is largely considered to be a marginal figure with some of his views deemed too radical even by staunch nationalists. While he has served as an advisor to several politicians, Dugin never enjoyed official endorsement from the Kremlin. Back in 2014, he was sacked from his job at Moscow State University after critics interpreted his call to “kill, kill, kill” those behind massacres in Ukraine, such as the Odessa tragedy, as a call for a genocide of Ukrainians.
Bill Ryan
20th August 2022, 23:30
A brief but significant comment from Citizen Free Press (https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/assassination-attempt-on-alexander-dugin-kills-his-daughter-instead/):
Alexander Dugin was supposed to be in the vehicle that was bombed, but switched cars before this leg of the journey. His daughter Daria Dugina was killed. According to Steve Bannon, this is likely a CIA/Ukraine attack.
Mashika
20th August 2022, 23:36
And this is why those animals can't be reasoned with
They feast on death and suffering, they love death, and make fun of the fallen, then they glorify their acts as "good" and "fair". This is no different than ISIS or similar groups
How to deal with rabid animals? You don't reason with them, there is only putting them down or they will never stop harming other people
There is no mind that can be reasoned with behind those brutal animals, there is is only rabid beasts acting on impulse, such a beast can't be reasoned with, ever
The Ukrainians are behind this, but also the enablers and puppeters from the west, all of this is happening because of them, and they too, are brutal mindless beasts that need to be put down, the time is already past beyond any cure for such a stupid beast to come back to any human reasoning, they all just know to solve everything by causing death and suffering, that's the reality of it all
She has passed, but there are many who will not forgive or forget. This is not something that will be forgotten
Satori
20th August 2022, 23:39
I just hope and trust that those actually responsible are held to account and that more innocent lives are not sacrificed in the zeal of that effort.
Bill Ryan
20th August 2022, 23:44
She has passed, but there are many who will not forgive or forget. This is not something that will be forgottenIt won't be.
When it's discovered exactly who's behind this, the Russians will act. But it's all very dangerous: we know the US wants to escalate the war, and something like this is close to the ultimate provocation... I'd imagine almost everyone in Moscow will be demanding retaliation.
Inversion
20th August 2022, 23:56
His Wikipedia page claims he was Putin's brain as stated in a pervious post. Read the second quote about Dugin and his daughter. Her name anagrams (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Daria+Dugin&language=english&t=500&d=&include=guardian&exclude=&n=&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) to Guardian ID. The former head of DARPA Regina E. Dungan name anagrams (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=regina+e+dugan&language=english&t=500&d=&include=&exclude=&n=4&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) to Guardian Gene. Douglas Rain who played the voice of the HAL-9000 name anagrams (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Douglas+Rain&language=english&t=500&d=&include=&exclude=&n=3&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) to Guardian Sol & Iguana Lords.
Considered by some in the West to be "Putin's brain,"[13] or "Putin's philosopher," Dugin is believed by some to have laid the ideological groundwork for the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022[14][15] as part of his advocacy for Ukraine becoming "a purely administrative sector of the Russian centralized state", which he refers to as Novorossiya.[16]
Sanctions
On 11 March 2015, the United States Department of the Treasury added Dugin to its list of Russian citizens who are sanctioned as a result of their involvement in the Ukrainian crisis; his Eurasian Youth Union was targeted too.[124] In June 2015, Canada added Dugin to its list of sanctioned individuals.[125]
On 3 March 2022 the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned the outlet Geopolitika [ru] due to its alleged control by Dugin. Additionally, the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned Dugin's daughter Darya Aleksandrovna Dugina on the basis of her work as chief editor of the website United World International (UWI). According to the United States Department of the Treasury, UWI was developed as part of Project Lakhta, owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is held responsible for part of the Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[126][127]
Chester
21st August 2022, 00:05
Some comments (based on information from reasonably informed sources).
Dugin was not a protected individual (and didn't move around with security). If they wanted to take him out, it would have been easy.
We all know the level of sophistication played by players on all sides. Along those lines, there are hardliners in Russia that do not believe Putin has gone far enough, fast enough. They also know the symbolic significance of Dugin - especially to a significant segment of the Russian people. By martyring his daughter, you can be sure that Dugin will be pressuring Putin if Putin doesn't respond appropriately. The hawks will have Dugin's back. This puts Putin at minimal, on the spot and maximal, in danger.
Mashika
21st August 2022, 00:07
His Wikipedia page claims he was Putin's brain as stated in a pervious post. Read the second quote about Dugin and his daughter. Her name anagrams (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Daria+Dugina&language=english&t=500&d=&include=&exclude=&n=3&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) to Guardian Aid. The former head of DARPA Regina E. Dungan name anagrams (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=regina+e+dugan&language=english&t=500&d=&include=&exclude=&n=4&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) to Guardian Gene.
Considered by some in the West to be "Putin's brain,"[13] or "Putin's philosopher," Dugin is believed by some to have laid the ideological groundwork for the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022[14][15] as part of his advocacy for Ukraine becoming "a purely administrative sector of the Russian centralized state", which he refers to as Novorossiya.[16]
Sanctions
On 11 March 2015, the United States Department of the Treasury added Dugin to its list of Russian citizens who are sanctioned as a result of their involvement in the Ukrainian crisis; his Eurasian Youth Union was targeted too.[124] In June 2015, Canada added Dugin to its list of sanctioned individuals.[125]
On 3 March 2022 the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned the outlet Geopolitika [ru] due to its alleged control by Dugin. Additionally, the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned Dugin's daughter Darya Aleksandrovna Dugina on the basis of her work as chief editor of the website United World International (UWI). According to the United States Department of the Treasury, UWI was developed as part of Project Lakhta, owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is held responsible for part of the Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[126][127]
Whatever the west says it always comes with a great/giant dosis of BS. They don't understand or have any real clue of what goes on in Russia, they just assume things based on stupidity and old obsolete understandings of the USSR times. This has been proven and demonstrated over and over int he past years and specially the past months
Ukraine equaling as Novorossiya is priceless, only an uneducated westerner would assume such, Novorossiya is a completely different concept and region, and it was not, and will never will meant to be the entirety of Ukraine, that's just not how things are
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"Ukrainian terrorists" probably had a hand in blowing up the car of the daughter of philosopher Alexander Dugin, Darya, Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region, said on the Telegram channel.
“I have no doubt that this was done by the UGIL terrorists — the Ukrainian state of Ivano-Frankivsk and Lvov. The target could be both Dasha and her father, Alexander Dugin,” Rogov said.
He stressed that Daria Dugina fought desperately against fascism in Ukraine and its "Anglo-Saxon masters."
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 00:11
His Wikipedia page claims...All that can be totally ignored.
Chester
21st August 2022, 00:12
From Britain's Daily Mail. I'll not copy the entire article, but the shrieking headline is enough.
(My comment: Dugin isn't Russia's 'war mastermind' at all, nor is he all that close to Putin. But for sure, this is very significant.)
https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11130731/Daughter-Ukraine-war-mastermind-blown-pieces-Moscow-car-bomb.html
Daughter of Ukraine war mastermind 'is blown to pieces in Moscow car bomb': Darya Dugin 'assassinated in attack meant for her father Alexander' – one of Putin's closest aides often dubbed the Russian leader's 'brain'
One of my sources (one that I take seriously) has a similar view in regard to the relationship (Putin/Dugin) held by Putin. Reflecting essentially the same view as Bill expressed in the above quote - "Dugin isn't Russia's 'war mastermind' at all, nor is he all that close to Putin."
Mashika
21st August 2022, 00:12
Some comments (based on information from reasonably informed sources).
Dugin was not a protected individual (and didn't move around with security). If they wanted to take him out, it would have been easy.
We all know the level of sophistication played by players on all sides. Along those lines, there are hardliners in Russia that do not believe Putin has gone far enough, fast enough. They also know the symbolic significance of Dugin - especially to a significant segment of the Russian people. By martyring his daughter, you can be sure that Dugin will be pressuring Putin if Putin doesn't respond appropriately. The hawks will have Dugin's back. This puts Putin at minimal, on the spot and maximal, in danger.
The possibility always exists of playing that game, but it's a 'playing with fire' one, as not everyone will be happy to learn it was done with that purpose, it could very easily turn around for the game starters, and there is a very big group of people who are not playing along or would not at all play along with the 'martyring' game just to push an agenda forward
But yes, it's been a while since a certain group has been losing patience with the slow progress or the 'not hard enough' stance of Putin
Chester
21st August 2022, 00:17
His Wikipedia page claims...Well, all that can be totally ignored.
Exactly! (when will people wake up when it comes to this 'controlled propaganda' website)?
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Some comments (based on information from reasonably informed sources).
Dugin was not a protected individual (and didn't move around with security). If they wanted to take him out, it would have been easy.
We all know the level of sophistication played by players on all sides. Along those lines, there are hardliners in Russia that do not believe Putin has gone far enough, fast enough. They also know the symbolic significance of Dugin - especially to a significant segment of the Russian people. By martyring his daughter, you can be sure that Dugin will be pressuring Putin if Putin doesn't respond appropriately. The hawks will have Dugin's back. This puts Putin at minimal, on the spot and maximal, in danger.
The possibility always exists of playing that game, but it's a 'playing with fire' one, as not everyone will be happy to learn it was done with that purpose, it could very easily turn around for the game starters, and there is a very big group of people who are not playing along or would not at all play along with the 'martyring' game just to push an agenda forward
But yes, it's been a while since a certain group has been losing patience with the slow progress or the 'not hard enough' stance of Putin
I should have clarified - the above scenario concerns me if the perps behind this are Ukraine (US/Nato). I strongly doubt it's an inside job false flag situation.
The Russian hardliners are handed a great opportunity to escalate the war. Surely the US/UK/Anglosphere (and Zelensky) know this.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 00:19
By morning US time, Putin will have made an extremely strong statement. He'll promise a response, but will leave Ukraine and the US guessing about what the response will be. And that won't be rhetorical... there will absolutely be one.
ExomatrixTV
21st August 2022, 00:19
"Europe Is The Battlefield Between Two Worldviews" - Interview With Daria Dugina
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05.05.2022
Daria Dugina (https://www.geopolitika.ru/en/person/daria-platonova)
Lorenzo Maria Pacini (https://www.geopolitika.ru/en/person/lorenzo-maria-pacini)
We interviewed, exclusively, Darya Dugina, philosopher graduated from Moscow State University, specialised in Neoplatonism, able political commentator and daughter of Professor Aleksandr Dugin. The interview was made originlly bilingual (italian and russian), in order to be diffused also to the Russian-speaking public.
Daria, first of all thank you for accepting our interview. The ever-changing geopolitical situation is turning towards a new multipolar world order, which is in contrast to the new globalist world order, of the Great Reset, of the financial oligarchies and hidden power. Russia is currently the country leading the 'clash of civilisations': what do you think is Europe's role?
Europe is a battlefield of two worldviews - globalist and anti-globalist. This is now evident in all countries. The French presidential elections were held recently and analysing them we can clearly see the existence of two blocs - one representing the people, the other the transnational elites. Le Pen, and with her Melanchon, were anti-globalisation in their programmes, the main goal of their campaigns was to increase the purchasing power of the French, and to strengthen the sovereignty of the French state (one could call this to some extent a Gaullist strategy in the case of Le Pen, and a non-aligned position in the case of Melanchon). Today, Europe is a political field subordinated to the dictatorship of American hegemony. Unfortunately, the European elites blindly follow the orders of the United States. But the crisis, which has already had a major impact on Europe, sufficiently shows the negative consequences of these policies - and that only on the economic side. There are many signs, voices and political manifestations of the alternative approach emerging before our eyes - there are forces in Europe that want multipolarity. These are the anti-globalist movements. They are the future of Europe, globalism and the EU elites are its past. Everything points to the 'decline of Europe' - growing tyranny was also highlighted by Spengler as a key feature of the end of 'culture', as were technocratic governments and the dominance of money as a value. The EU elites are pursuing a consistent policy of destroying European countries. However, the resistance that exists on the part of the peoples - the resistance to the death of their own cultures - must be kept in mind. It still has to show itself.
In Italy, people were singing the praises of Russia and Putin until a few months ago; today, a large part of the population has sided with NATO and is pointing the finger at Moscow. Misinformation and widespread ignorance in political science have led to an alarming and dangerous climate of ideological hatred. Yet, Italy is the seat of the First Rome, it is the source of art, philosophy, science and beauty for centuries and centuries, but it seems to have dozed off and forgotten its own origins and greatness. How do you think an awakening of the Italic Logos and a return to the greatness of this people can take place?
First of all, I think it is necessary to realise that the media propaganda system aims to strengthen American influence on the European continent. This, by the way, is often talked about in Italy. It is very important to understand that today the regime in Kiev is a stronghold of a destructive globalist ideology with ideas of xenophobia, radical hatred and tyranny.
Many people in Italy, but more generally across the European continent, do not look favourably on Russia, despite being against NATO and American imperialism. There is a perception of the risk of going from being subjugated by one empire to another. What do you think about that?
Of course, it is a big risk. However, there are different shades of approval. One can disapprove of a special military operation by the Russian Federation but refrain from supplying arms to Kiev. This is also a position. Europe has every right to be 'neutral'; geopolitically it is an independent pole that belongs neither to the civilisation of the sea nor that of the land. This intermediate status implies a certain neutrality. Today, the processes we see are the subordination of EU countries to the will of the USA, i.e. total subordination to the norms and imperatives of the civilisation of the sea. This is imperialism 2.0, and it passes through culture. Gramsci was very precise in saying that in the modern world, the seizure of power happens through culture. Whoever controls culture (as well as the media) controls the country politically and economically. Today culture in Europe is unfortunately controlled by pro-American structures.
You are an expert and passionate about French philosophy and politics. France, as we all know, is one of the strongest nations in the European Union and plays a key role in relations with Russia and beyond. What scenarios do you foresee from the upcoming French presidential elections? How would the EU's relations with Russia change if Macron had lost?
The presidential elections have shown that the globalist structures have done everything to keep their protégé, Emmanuel Macron, who represents the interests of global finance capital. His mentor, the French economist Jacques Attali, wrote about the importance of globalisation and the creation of a 'new nomadic elite', totally detached from its national roots. In such a world, all differences between cultures, peoples, traditions and everything becomes universal. Such an agenda is a threat to the multiplicity of European identities. Despite the anti-people policy of Macron's five-year plan, the whole mechanism of the globalist system was aimed at the artificial continuation of his mandate. It should be noted that the situation is revolutionary: at the head of the country there is a candidate who does not have the support of the majority of the population. He could be called a nihilist candidate - because his victory is entirely negative.
Even two days before the second round of the elections Macron announced that France had sent self-propelled artillery units and anti-tank missile systems to Kiev. From appeasement, Macron moved on to actively supporting the Kiev regime. In a phone conversation on 30 April 2022 Macron discussed with Zelensky plans for French support for Ukraine and said he would increase military support for Kiev.
If Marine Le Pen had succeeded in coming to power, the situation would have changed radically. She was an outspoken critic of NATO in relation to the Ukrainian conflict. Her position has an anti-globalisation basis. If she wins, France could become a country with which Russia could have a dialogue. He has repeatedly stated that France suffers from the anti-Russian sanctions imposed, calling them 'harakiri' for the country. Unfortunately, France has now become hostage to the interests of the globalist elites.
As a final question, from geopolitics we turn to philosophy. Who are your favourite philosophers? And which thinkers do you think should be rediscovered, at this historical moment, in order to cooperate in the great awakening that is taking place?
In my opinion, it is absolutely necessary to know the works of Plato and the Neo-Platonists, these are fundamental authors who, among other things, can give us clues about the events that are happening today. In Platonism, the basic idea was that of hierarchy, which manifests itself both in the soul (the three beginnings of the soul) and in the state. When the order and hierarchy are changed, the material - lustful beginning becomes the head, justice leaves the soul and the state, a reign of tyranny begins (what we see in the West today). It is also crucial to refer to Gramsci's writings - and his ideas of 'hegemony' - this is important to describe the process of subjugation of the European space to globalism. The main battle today is not so much military as cultural. Therefore, it is crucial to understand the new mission of culture, which carries the semantics of civilisation. In Europe, a culture that is spreading like an epidemic is the culture of globalism (we can distinguish different trends - cyborgization of art, fascination with object-oriented ontologies and many others).
Baudrillard with his idea of death in modernity is more relevant than ever, in my opinion. In short, he notes that modern society strives to abolish death. In abolishing this denial of death, death floods everything, subordinates all processes. If we analyse, for example, French politics from the point of view of Thanatology, then this modern attitude with the 'denial of death' can be seen in the figure of Macron. His focus on virtuality (a pre-election room in the game Meinkraft), his appeal to the future (and not the past), his biohacking in the service of his ideological mentors (Bernard-Henri Lévy) are all evidence of the ideology of trying to overcome death, which is actually embedded in the ideology of globalism itself.
If we try to turn to existential analysis, I think it is extremely important to follow the philosophy of Heidegger, who brilliantly described the experience of man's clash with Being. The experience of war and conflict is an opportunity for man to see the 'authentic', an opportunity to get to its 'sacred' basis.
source (https://www.geopolitika.ru/en/article/europe-battlefield-between-two-worldviews-interview-daria-platonova)
US & NATO Don't Want Ukraine-Russia Negotiations, Claims Moscow Analyst Dr. Daria Dugina:
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Mashika
21st August 2022, 00:23
His Wikipedia page claims...Well, all that can be totally ignored.
Exactly! (when will people wake up when it comes to this 'controlled propaganda' website)?
Maybe this can help in forming a better view of things
1. The Soviets are behind Putin recognizing both LPR and DPR as republics. Somehow they found their way to Putin (and this is where Aleksandr Dugin is supposed to have come through for them) (Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian :) )
2. The Soviets expected a more clean, hard and fast war, a takeover of Ukraine in a month or two, by force regardless of civilians opinions or care for anyone else's stance (the west)
3. This didn't happen of course, this is being done not as the USSR would have done it, but as Russia does it now
So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out.
I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this time (Putin is not dumb, he has ears and hands and eyes everywhere)
The soviets, since long ago, are walking on a very thin line. Having come into a good place in Putin's eyes momentarily, means nothing, the carpet will be swept below their feet in a moment if they are found out to be the root of Dasha's death
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 00:28
So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out. I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this timeI'd even add a little more emphasis to that... I'm as sure as I can be that they'd absolutely not want to go down that route. It's way way too dangerous. It has to be 99% certain this was Ukrainian (and/or US/UK) special forces.
One thing that will be very very interesting is what Zelensky will say.
Chester
21st August 2022, 00:30
His Wikipedia page claims...Well, all that can be totally ignored.
Exactly! (when will people wake up when it comes to this 'controlled propaganda' website)?
Maybe this can help in forming a better view of things
1. The Soviets are behind Putin recognizing both LPR and DPR as republics. Somehow they found their way to Putin (and this is where Aleksandr Dugin is supposed to have come through for them) (Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian :) )
2. The Soviets expected a more clean, hard and fast war, a takeover of Ukraine in a month or two, by force regardless of civilians opinions or care for anyone else's stance (the west)
3. This didn't happen of course, this is being done not as the USSR would have done it, but as Russia does it now
So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out.
I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this time (Putin is not dumb, he has ears and hands and eyes everywhere)
The soviets, since long ago, are walking on a very thin line. Having come into a good place in Putin's eyes momentarily, means nothing, the carpet will be swept below their feet in a moment if they are found out to be the root of Dasha's death
"(Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )"
I got that from the title of the first article I found on the internet - How is it best to spell his name?
? Aleksandr Dugin ?
I don't want to use the western way either.
Wow - I suspect Bill fixed it. If so, thank you.
This was the first article that I found - https://westobserver.com/news/europe/the-car-of-the-daughter-of-oleksandr-dugin-an-ideologue-of-racism-and-adviser-to-putin-exploded-in-the-suburbs-of-moscow/
ExomatrixTV
21st August 2022, 00:33
Darya Dugina BRI Multipolar World - May 24, 2022:
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As you asked! An interview with Daria Dugina, Alexander Dugin's Daughter Jun 13, 2022:
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John Mark Dougan quote: "You guys asked, you receive! Here is an interview with my friend Daria Dugina, the lovely and talented daughter of Alexander Dugin. We were at the Port of Mariupok, watching how everything is being rebuilt and life is getting back to normal". Jun 13, 2022
Daria Dugina, Daughter Of Alexander Dugin, Killed In Car Explosion:
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R.I.P.
Mashika
21st August 2022, 00:33
His Wikipedia page claims...Well, all that can be totally ignored.
Exactly! (when will people wake up when it comes to this 'controlled propaganda' website)?
Maybe this can help in forming a better view of things
1. The Soviets are behind Putin recognizing both LPR and DPR as republics. Somehow they found their way to Putin (and this is where Aleksandr Dugin is supposed to have come through for them) (Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian :) )
2. The Soviets expected a more clean, hard and fast war, a takeover of Ukraine in a month or two, by force regardless of civilians opinions or care for anyone else's stance (the west)
3. This didn't happen of course, this is being done not as the USSR would have done it, but as Russia does it now
So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out.
I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this time (Putin is not dumb, he has ears and hands and eyes everywhere)
The soviets, since long ago, are walking on a very thin line. Having come into a good place in Putin's eyes momentarily, means nothing, the carpet will be swept below their feet in a moment if they are found out to be the root of Dasha's death
"(Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )"
I got that from the title of the first article I found on the internet - How is it best to spell his name? I don't want to use the western way either.
Aleksandr Dugin is the right way, it avoids both Ukrainian and western pronunciation
Pretty sure he would not like Alexander or Oleksandr as alternatives :)
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 00:34
"(Also please don't call him Oleksandr, he's not Ukrainian )"
I got that from the title of the first article I found on the internet - How is it best to spell his name? ? Aleksandr Dugin ? I don't want to use the western way either.
Aleksandr DuginI've already changed it. :thumbsup:
Satori
21st August 2022, 00:47
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Daria Dugina, Daughter Of Alexander Dugin, Killed In Car Explosion
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R.I.P.
A very impressive young lady. Passionate, very intelligent and articulate.... What a terrible shame.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 00:50
This may or may not mean anything. But apart from the Daily Mail article in post #3 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119308-The-daughter-of-Aleksandr-Dugin-has-been-assassinated-in-Moscow) just under an hour ago, there are NO reports I can find from any mainstream media in the US or EU/UK.
Not the BBC, CNN, CBC, Der Spiegel, Le Monde, nothing.
Chester
21st August 2022, 00:54
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Dugin arriving at the site.
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Russian nationalists on telegram asking to declare mobilization and murder Zelensky in retaliation for the murder of Dugin's daughter.
Chester
21st August 2022, 00:56
This may or may not mean anything. But apart from the Daily Mail article in post #3 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119308-The-daughter-of-Aleksandr-Dugin-has-been-assassinated-in-Moscow) just under an hour ago, there are NO reports I can find from any mainstream media in the US or EU/UK.
Not the BBC, CNN, CBC, Der Spiegel, Le Monde, nothing.
I noticed he same... coordinated ignoring until finally someone like AP or Reuters comes out with it... maybe the BBC.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 01:02
Russian nationalists on telegram asking to declare mobilization and murder Zelensky in retaliation for the murder of Dugin's daughter.I wrote this half an hour ago:
By morning US time, Putin will have made an extremely strong statement. He'll promise a response, but will leave Ukraine and the US guessing about what the response will be. And that won't be rhetorical... there will absolutely be one.Putin's statement will need to be exceptionally strong to calm down the extremists (and the Soviets, referencing what Mashika posted in her post #20 here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119308-The-daughter-of-Aleksandr-Dugin-has-been-assassinated-in-Moscow&p=1513402&viewfull=1#post1513402).) Putin is a master statesman, and will know exactly what to say and do. But he'll be walking a very fine line, keeping it all in balance — though he can certainly do that.
My guess about the deafening silence [so far] in the western mainstream media is because whoever gives them orders about what to say and report is still figuring out how to play this. Some slightly more wise and cautious senior influencers in the west, intent on avoiding escalation, will not want the west to be seen to be crowing about this. Others will want to do the opposite.
If Zelensky says the wrong stupid thing, someone's going to take him out — even if it wasn't under Putin's orders. This could spiral out of anyone's control very fast indeed.
Mashika
21st August 2022, 01:03
So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out. I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this timeI'd even add a little more emphasis to that... I'm as sure as I can be that they'd absolutely not want to go down that route. It's way way too dangerous. It has to be 99% certain this was Ukrainian (and/or US/UK) special forces.
I suspect even then that there had to be some help from within Russia
One thing that will be very very interesting is what Zelensky will say.
As you said, the media is kind of silent, i think we are going to see a lot of 'neutral' comments or fake 'concern' and the usual fake empathy coming in from politicians, media and other figures in the next hours/days
They messed up, and this may turn things very bad for them, so no one will want to get involved much maybe (the potato is way too hot right now)
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 01:14
https://twitter.com/TobiAyodele/status/1561126851715776514
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ExomatrixTV
21st August 2022, 01:17
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R.I.P. Darya Dugina
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Inversion
21st August 2022, 01:20
Here's a picture of the vehicle after the fire was put out. I was looking for a tell in her father's body language in post#28. When people are smuggling at an airport their feet will be pointed at an exit.
twitter (https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1561108942146732032)
Russian violinist Petr Lundstrem says that Darya Dugina was returning from the Tradition festival. Her father was supposed to get into this car but left in another one.
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Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 01:20
https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2022/08/21/18372962.shtml
August 21, 2022, 00:09
Baza reported the explosion of Daria Dugina's jeep in the Moscow region
A car was blown up in the Moscow region. It was previously established that the deceased was the daughter of public figure Alexander Dugin Daria. Telegram channels Baza and 112 reported on the incident.
According to available information, the incident occurred near the village of Bolshiye Vyazemy near Moscow in the Odintsovo city district. The Land Cruiser Prado car, the owner of the car Daria Dugina, who was in the cabin, allegedly died on the spot, was blown up.
Earlier, employees of the FSB of Russia detained two residents of Kherson - Andrei Serezhenko and Oleg Pronko, who confessed to organizing the explosion of the car of the head of the Department of the Penitentiary Service for the Kherson region Yevgeny Sobolev.
Sobolev's car was blown up on June 18 with an improvised explosive device. As a result, the head of the USIN was hospitalized with a wound that did not threaten his life.
The FSB opened a criminal case against the detainees.
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 01:29
https://sputniknews.com/20220820/car-accident-occurs-in-moscow-region-likely-involves-russian-philosopher-dugins-daughter-1099806487.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Car Accident Occurs in Moscow Region, Likely Involves Russian Philosopher Dugin's Daughter
MOSCOW (Sputnik) - A car has caught on fire in the Odintsovsky District in the Moscow region, a law enforcement source has confirmed to Sputnik.
According to the Russian Kommersant newspaper, the daughter of Alexander Dugin, a Russian political philosopher and analyst, and a proponent of Traditionalist beliefs, could have been killed in the accident.
Dugin has reportedly arrived on the scene of the accident on Mozhayskoye Highway. According to several Russian media reports, an explosion preceded the accident involving the Land Cruiser Prado vehicle.
The head of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin said on Telegram that "terrorists of the Ukrainian regime, trying to eliminate Alexander Dugin, blew up his daughter... In a car."
Chester
21st August 2022, 01:30
The US and Russia have an active agreement to not conduct active measures within the other's respective borders. CIA would not have been involved within Russia in any active way.
That - from a friend who retired as a GS-15 (CIA equivalent to a full colonel).
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 01:33
an improvised explosive deviceThere'll be all kinds of forensics that can be done on that: the exact chemical composition of the explosive, etc. It'd all be done by mass spectrometer. Then that can be compared, like a fingerprint or DNA match, to any other IED that's been similarly analyzed in Ukraine.
My guess is that if there are matches, they'll know within a couple of days, maybe sooner. Then there won't be any definitive public statements, but very swift action will be taken against whoever did this.
THEN, they'll detail the entire process to the media, including naming who carried out the bombing. Putin has to do all this at express speed to quell the many voices that will be telling him to take out Kiev, or anywhere else in Europe.
Putin did say several weeks ago that if there was an attack on Russian soil, immediate and decisive action would be taken against the executive decision-makers, whoever or wherever they may be. There may even be a few in the know in MI6 in London right now who might not be sleeping too well.
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 01:34
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62621509
Darya Dugin: Daughter of Putin ally killed in Moscow bomb - report
19 minutes ago
The daughter of a close ally to Russia's President Vladimir Putin has reportedly been killed near Moscow.
According to local media, Darya Dugin died after her car exploded in flames while she was travelling home.
It is not clear if her father, the Russian philosopher Aleksandr Dugin who is known as "Putin's brain," was the intended target of an attack.
Mr Dugin is a prominent ultra-nationalist ideologue who is believed to be close to the Russian president.
According to Russian media outlet 112, the pair were due to travel back from an event on Saturday evening in the same car before Mr Dugin made a decision to travel separately from his daughter at the last minute.
Unverified footage posted on Telegram appears to show Mr Dugin watching in shock as emergency services arrive at the scene of the burning wreck of a vehicle.
The BBC has not been able to verify the footage independently.
An unnamed law enforcement official confirmed to RIA news agency that a car had caught fire on a highway in the Moscow region's Odintsovo district, but provided no further details.
There has been no official comment from Russian authorities so far.
Despite not holding an official position in government, Ms Dugin's father is a close ally of the Russian president and has even been branded "Putin's Rasputin".
The philosopher's daughter, Darya Dugin, was herself a prominent journalist and commentator who supported the Russian invasion.
Earlier this year, she was sanctioned by UK authorities who accused the 29-year-old of contributing to online "disinformation" in relation to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Aleksandr Dugin's ultra-nationalist writings are credited with deeply shaping Vladimir Putin's worldview and he is closely associated with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
The ideologue has previously expressed his support for Russian aggression towards Ukraine and was placed under US sanctions in 2015 for his alleged involvement in Moscow's annexation of Crimea in 2014.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 01:41
The US and Russia have an active agreement to not conduct active measures within the other's respective borders. CIA would not have been involved within Russia in any active way.
They'd just get on the [encrypted] phone to MI6, or call in a bunch of retired Special Ops US mercenaries and pay them as much as they wanted via accounts in the Cayman Islands. Legally, the CIA would have clean hands.... they always do. :)
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 01:58
I'm sure we'll be hearing about the whole huge cascade of outrage and anger from tens of thousands in Russia (and quite a few voices in the 'alt' west, too).
One of the tragic twists here is that the rage and demands for retaliative justice will be far greater because it was Dugin's very beautiful and impressive daughter who was killed, her body burned beyond recognition — and not Dugin himself.
If this was a page in a movie script describing the tipping of the SMO in Ukraine to full-scale war in Europe, it'd be a plausible one.
Western leaders would be VERY smart to call Putin personally tomorrow and express condolences on officially transcribed record, stating clearly that they do not support such terrorist incidents and knew absolutely nothing about this.
Inversion
21st August 2022, 03:14
I'm sure we'll be hearing about the whole huge cascade of outrage and anger from tens of thousands in Russia (and quite a few voices in the 'alt' west, too).
One of the tragic twists here is that the rage and demands for retaliative justice will be far greater because it was Dugin's very beautiful and impressive daughter who was killed, her body burned beyond recognition — and not Dugin himself.
If this was a page in a movie script describing the tipping of the SMO in Ukraine to full-scale war in Europe, it'd be a plausible one.
Western leaders would be VERY smart to call Putin personally tomorrow and express condolences on officially transcribed record, stating clearly that they do not support such terrorist incidents and knew absolutely nothing about this.
It's akin to the WWI script where one assassination started it. The Spanish Flu was a factor in ending the conflict.
history (https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/world-war-i-history)
World War I, also known as the Great War, began in 1914 after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. His murder catapulted into a war across Europe that lasted until 1918. During the conflict, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire (the Central Powers) fought against Great Britain, France, Russia, Italy, Romania, Canada, Japan and the United States (the Allied Powers). Thanks to new military technologies and the horrors of trench warfare, World War I saw unprecedented levels of carnage and destruction. By the time the war was over and the Allied Powers claimed victory, more than 16 million people—soldiers and civilians alike—were dead.
WWI end: alphahistory (https://alphahistory.com/worldwar1/german-surrender/)
9ideon
21st August 2022, 05:45
Feckers! So now those glorious agents of the "free West" are going after Civilians eh.
Bill
Western leaders would be VERY smart to call Putin personally tomorrow and express condolences on officially transcribed record, stating clearly that they do not support such terrorist incidents and knew absolutely nothing about this.
I think we're past crocodile tears Bill, active or passive, they're all complicit, besides those mental patients don't mean anything they say anyway, especially not when it comes to emotions.
Mashika
How to deal with rabid animals? You don't reason with them, there is only putting them down or they will never stop harming other people
There is no mind that can be reasoned with behind those brutal animals, there is is only rabid beasts acting on impulse, such a beast can't be reasoned with, ever
The Ukrainians are behind this, but also the enablers and puppeteers from the west, all of this is happening because of them, and they too, are brutal mindless beasts that need to be put down, the time is already past beyond any cure for such a stupid beast to come back to any human reasoning, they all just know to solve everything by causing death and suffering, that's the reality of it all
I agree and have said it many times before, although Gulag would have my preference, death will come always, life, well life can be hard, especially under the right circumstances for snowflakes like that.
Tintin
21st August 2022, 09:21
A brief but significant comment from Citizen Free Press (https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/assassination-attempt-on-alexander-dugin-kills-his-daughter-instead/):
Alexander Dugin was supposed to be in the vehicle that was bombed, but switched cars before this leg of the journey. His daughter Daria Dugina was killed. According to Steve Bannon, this is likely a CIA/Ukraine attack.
Or quite possibly MI6, but, still, a tragic event and a very dangerous development :flower:
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 10:08
RT has nothing more on this yet, but here's the update from Sputnik News. The forensic teams were on this immediately.
https://sputniknews.com/20220821/moscow-if-ukrainian-trace-is-found-in-duginas-death-itll-prove-kievs-state-terrorism-policy-1099816725.html
Moscow: If 'Ukraine's Trace' is Found in Dugina's Death, it'll Point to Kiev's State Terrorism Policy
https://projectavalon.net/Investigating_the_murder_of_Daria_Dugina.jpg
Earlier in the day, Russian investigators said they believe the deadly car accident that left Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin's daughter Daria dead was ordered and planned.
If suspicions that Ukraine was involved in Daria Dugina's death are confirmed, then it will point at Kiev's policy of state terrorism, Russia's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.
"If the Ukrainian trace is confirmed - and this theory was voiced by the head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin - it should be checked by competent authorities, then we need to talk about the policy of state terrorism implemented by the Kiev regime," Zakharova wrote on Telegram.
Earlier on Sunday, Russia's Investigative Committee opened a criminal case of murder after Daria Dugina, the 29-year-old daughter of Russian political philosopher and analyst Alexander Dugin, was killed in a car accident in the Moscow region on Saturday night.
According to investigators, an explosive device was planted under the bottom of a Toyota Land Cruiser vehicle Daria was driving. The car was traveling at full speed when it exploded in the Odintsovsky District in the Moscow region at about 21:00 local time (18:00 GMT) on Saturday.
At present, investigators are inspecting the scene of the accident. The burnt car, which was subsequently removed to specialized parking, has been examined by an explosives specialist. Investigators have seized a video recording from the car and the security services were ordered to identify those involved and witnesses.
In addition, expert examinations are being undertaken, including biological, genetic, physical, chemical and explosive forensic examinations.
Russian Investigative Committee chief Alexander Bastrykin has instructed the relevant authorities to transfer the criminal case on the murder of Dugina to the Main Investigation Department for a further comprehensive and objective investigation.
Daria Dugina was born in Moscow in 1992. She graduated from the Philosophy department of the Moscow State University and worked as political analyst and journalist. Like her father Alexander, Daria was a proponent of traditionalist beliefs and supported Russia's special military operation in Ukraine. In July, she was included in UK sanctions lists. Dugin himself was sanctioned by the EU, US and Canada in 2014 and 2015.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 10:24
And here's the report from Readovska News, a prominent Russian-language site. The English-language Tass article (https://tass.com/emergencies/1496375) is very similar. There's nothing yet on the Kremlin's official website. (https://kremlin.ru)
https://readovka.news/news/108906
Here's the English translation:
https://readovka-news.translate.goog/news/108906?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
The case of Daria Dugina's murder has been transferred to the central office of the Investigative Committee
https://projectavalon.net/Daria_Dugina.jpg
The investigators believe the crime was a contract killing
Chairman of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation Alexander Bastrykin instructed to transfer the criminal case on the murder of Daria Dugina to the central office of the Investigative Committee, the department said (https://translate.google.com/website?sl=ru&tl=en&hl=en&client=webapp&u=https://sledcom.ru/news/item/1716646/). Earlier, the prosecutor's office of the Moscow region put the progress and results of the investigation of the criminal case under control.
The investigation believes that the crime was well-planned and a contract killing. The department also said that an improvised explosive device was planted under the bottom of Darya Dugina's car on the driver's side.
“Examinations are being appointed, including biological, genetic, physical-chemical, explosive forensic examinations, a video recording from the car’s DVR was seized, an order was sent to operational services to identify the persons who committed the crime and other witnesses of the incident ,” the department noted.
Daria Dugina, daughter of Russian public figure Alexander Dugin, died (https://readovka-news.translate.goog/news/108897?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) at night in the suburbs - she was returning in a jeep from the literary and musical festival in Zakharovo. Musician Peter Lundstrem said that her father was supposed to be in the car in which Daria died.
Alexander Dugin gave a lecture at the festival, and his daughter was also present. Daria was blown up in a car near the village of Bolshie Vyazma on Mozhayskoye Highway, she was driving for about ten minutes. According to the head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin,"terrorists of the Ukrainian regime" were involved in the explosion. SC opened a criminal case (https://readovka-news.translate.goog/news/108902?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) under paragraph "e" of Part 2 of Article 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
Tintin
21st August 2022, 11:09
"Europe Is The Battlefield Between Two Worldviews" - Interview With Daria Dugina
https://www.geopolitika.ru/sites/default/files/styles/wide_16_9/public/noname_4.png?itok=6Wj6FPBW (https://www.geopolitika.ru/sites/default/files/noname_4.png)
Great post John, excellent :thumbsup:
This typically intelligent quote sums up Ukraine - fast becoming Orcraine - just perfectly:
First of all, I think it is necessary to realise that the media propaganda system aims to strengthen American influence on the European continent. This, by the way, is often talked about in Italy. It is very important to understand that today the regime in Kiev is a stronghold of a destructive globalist ideology with ideas of xenophobia, radical hatred and tyranny.
Nailed.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 11:21
After several hours of odd silence, this is now being widely reported in the western media.
Here's a New York Times report, which is actually cautiously measured and pretty accurate. (A good thing.) It's incorporated in their rolling updates page, not all of which is nearly as well-written or honest.
https://nytimes.com/live/2022/08/21/world/ukraine-russia-news-war
The headline is Russia Opens Murder Investigation After Blast Kills Daughter of Putin Ally.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 11:27
If one searches on Google for дарья дугина (this (https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D1%8F+%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:h&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO9u_u6Nf5AhUZSzABHZNfBoQQpwV6BAgCEBQ&biw=1067&bih=541&dpr=2.4) is what to paste into your browser), a host of Russian news sites come up, all of which are being continuously updated. Any of them can be easily read by clicking on Google's Translate this page link that's alongside each article.
Here's just one of many increasingly detailed reports, easy to read and with a considerable amount of information.
https://lenta-ru.translate.goog/brief/2022/08/21/dugin/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
Le Chat
21st August 2022, 11:44
Of course, Dugin won't go to Putin ranting and raving telling him that had he not invaded Ukraine his daughter would still be alive...
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 12:15
Of course, Dugin won't go to Putin ranting and raving telling him that had he not invaded Ukraine his daughter would still be alive...Daria's murder doesn't mean that the SMO was an unwise military and political step to take. It was entirely justified.
And in the end — though after a great deal of destruction and bloodshed, most of which is at the hands of Zelensky and the US/UK — this will all have a positive outcome for the world. That means for you, me, and everyone reading this.
On the contrary, the murder of this beautiful and impressive young woman adds more fuel to the fire of smoldering outrage that many people in Russia feel about the Ukrainian regime (not about Ukrainian citizens themselves), and about just about everyone in Europe who has made it crystal clear that all Russians are hated, inferior people.
The sheer shrieking racism in action here is staggering. No-one in the west is willing or able to talk about it. I'm disgusted with 90+% of everyone who speaks my own language right now. And I have been for quite a while.
/rant
:focus:
ExomatrixTV
21st August 2022, 12:20
The Assassination Attempt On Alexander Dugin's Daughter, Darya, Was A Terrorist Attack:
Arya Dugina, the daughter of Russian philosopher and professor Alexander Dugin, was killed Saturday night when the jeep she was driving exploded on a Moscow highway due to what investigators say was a bomb previously placed inside. There is also suspicion that her father was the intended target, after sources revealed that he should also have been in the vehicle, but decided at the very last minute to return home from the family festival “Tradition and History” in a different way. . While no related evidence has yet been made public, many are beginning to believe that Kiev was behind this horrific terrorist attack, writes Andrew Korybko (https://oneworld.press/?module=articles&action=view&id=3156) .
Professor Dugin is arguably the second "most notorious" Russian behind President Putin in the Western imagination, after being falsely accused of being akin to a modern version of "Rasputin". According to this artificially fabricated information war narrative, spun for more than half a decade, that philosopher's past works are said to have convinced the Russian leader to restore the influence of his former superpower on the countries that formerly made up the Soviet Union. The reality, however, is that this geostrategic tendency was the natural result of the great power gradually recovering from its post-Soviet collapse and more confidently defending the red lines of its national security in Eurasia.
Nevertheless, it serves the narrative interests of Western perception managers to devise a dramatic conspiracy theory, to make it easier to manipulate their target audience. This false interpretation of geostrategic events, however, was not limited to the media, but ultimately had deadly consequences, in that the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev was successfully convinced that Professor Dugin posed a so-called "threat", which they believe was therefore had to be eliminated, ergo the assassination attempt on him, which ultimately killed his daughter. This sequence of events leads to several very important conclusions.
London refuses to talk to Donetsk People's Republic to exempt its mercenaries from death penalty
(https://www.frontnieuws.com/londen-weigert-met-de-volksrepubliek-donetsk-te-praten-om-zijn-huurlingen-te-vrijwaren-van-de-doodstraf/)First, baseless accusations, such as those against Professor Dugin, can spread like wildfire if they creatively capture the imagination of their target audience. Second, if it prompts people to commit acts of violence against the person being smeared, this fake news can have very real consequences. Third, civilians like him and his daughter, who go about their daily lives, are so-called “soft targets” who are easier to hit than government figures because they don't have full-time security forces to protect them. Fourth, the Ukrainian intelligence services were apparently monitoring their movements, invading their circles, preparing to strike at a later date.
And fifth, Professor Dugin and his daughter are public figures who accordingly share their calendars of events on social media, which in retrospect contributed to this so-called “opportunity crime” that was planned to be committed indirectly, through the car bomb that ended up being was used as part of this assassination plot. From this it can be speculated that the perpetrator either placed the device while the two were at Saturday's festival or sometime before that, with it being unclear whether it was detonated via a timer that could not be stopped (hence it exploded despite that the philosopher changed his plans at the last minute), or that it was done by hand to intentionally kill his daughter.
In any case, Darya's murder marks a crossing of the red line in the Ukrainian conflict, with Kiev escalating its terror attacks to the point of targeting the relatives of civilians whom fake news falsely believed they were. were unofficially very influential policy makers, as they seem to have believed her father to be. The fact that she was killed, despite the fact that their presumed intended target unexpectedly decided to go home in another vehicle, indicates that the perpetrators decided to continue their plot to at least kill him and Moscow in a wider sense. send a message that they have decided to escalate their US-backed hybrid war against Russia.
Undeniably influenced by half a decade of fake news about that philosopher, this targeted assassination shows the deadly consequences of America's information warfare campaign. It also affirms that the declining unipolar hegemon's proxies in Kievare truly state sponsors of terrorism, and should be treated as such by the international community accordingly. This horrific terrorist attack threatens the legitimate rules-based order enshrined in the United Nations Charter, thus confirming that the US is deliberately sowing the seeds of chaos in a desperate last-ditch effort to tarnish Russian morale after the slow but steady advance of their troops during the past six months of their special military operation.
Tens of billions of dollars of US-led Western military equipment to Kiev have failed to shape the course of the conflict, which continues to lean toward an inevitable Russian victory, despite uncertainty about when that outcome will be officially announced. the opponents will be recognized. Only the losing side would resort to such acts of terror, as it clearly lacks the conventional means to turn events on the ground to its advantage. Thus, objective observers can conclude that NATO's US-led proxy war against Russia via Ukraine has failed to achieve its grand strategic goal of paralyzing that great power.
source (https://oneworld.press/?module=articles&action=view&id=3156)
dutch (https://www.frontnieuws.com/de-moordaanslag-op-de-dochter-van-alexander-dugin-darya-was-een-laaghartige-terroristische-aanslag) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 13:26
Interesting comments reported here. It seems many Russians are accusing the UK of doing this. (I have to say, it seems to me not impossible at all.)
https://aif-ru.translate.goog/politics/russia/veteran_alfy_ubiystvo_duginoy_gromkoe_no_ego_ispolniteli_ne_profi?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
(This (https://aif.ru/politics/russia/veteran_alfy_ubiystvo_duginoy_gromkoe_no_ego_ispolniteli_ne_profi)is the original Russian page)
[extracted]
Sergey Alekseevich, a source in law enforcement agencies, said that unknown people had installed an explosive device on the car during the festival. The car was in a public parking lot.
What should be the qualifications of a criminal to commit this sabotage?
Sergei Goncharov: - Judge for yourself. Open parking. Well, maybe one pensioner sits in a booth and guards 150-200 cars that came to the festival. If you think he sees something, he doesn't. Therefore, it is not difficult to approach Dugin's car and place an explosive device under the bottom or in the place chosen by the saboteur. Therefore, this issue does not require any special qualifications or special training.
- It turns out that the murder itself is high profile, but the performers are not professionals?
- Yes exactly. The murder is high-profile, and the perpetrators are at the level of a person who installed an explosive device issued to him for money. Or is it an agent who was recruited by the SBU of Ukraine. It can even be assumed that he was recruited from those citizens of Ukraine who are now working for us here. This man carried out this operation for a good financial reward. So, in my opinion, it’s ridiculous to talk about some kind of the highest qualification of a performer who was trained by the Americans or the British.
- Although the version about the British has already been voiced by a number of experts: that, they say, the Ukrainians “walk” under British intelligence, therefore the British prepared the assassination attempt.
- Once again I repeat: there was no need for the participation of the British in this operation. An ordinary person came up and among the 150 cars that are standing in a row, he put an explosive device on one of them. Got money for it. This ended his mission. And those who prepared the whole operation after that made a phone call that blew up this car. The British had nothing to do here.
Could this tragedy have been avoided?
- This is a question of a different order. Ukraine has changed tactics. Having big setbacks on the battlefield, it focuses on sabotage and terrorist acts that occur not only on the territory of the LPR and DPR, but also in Russia. Day after day, there are reports of people being killed or attempted to kill those who head pro-Russian administrations.
- And what do we - society and the state as a whole - need to do in this situation?
- We must be aware that, alas, there will be more and more sabotage by Ukraine every time. Therefore, in my opinion, it is necessary to create a unit that will deal only with these problems - working with agents, revealing facts and stopping possible problems. If this is not done, then neither the Ministry of Defense, nor the National Guard, nor the police of the DPR and LPR will be able to cope with this problem. There should be one large division that will work in this direction.
Those Ukrainians who are now in Russia in the regions - and this is almost 3 million people - if someone thinks that they are all 100% pro-Russian, they are not. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a large layer of agents that they will use.
9ideon
21st August 2022, 13:33
Although the version about the British has already been voiced by a number of experts: that, they say, the Ukrainians “walk” under British intelligence, therefore the British prepared the assassination attempt.
If that were to be the case, it would mean that they've broken diplomatic "protocol". It could automatically turn into a open season style assassination frenzy. I do not think the West realizes that Russia and their allies, might have anticipated on this and have a serious amount of operatives in a lot of Western Countries ready to go.
Those Liberal Fascists keep on poking an already very angry Bear, Bear could go berserk soon, there's no outrunning that.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 13:40
There's an interesting editorial page here reporting on what people are saying in Russia. This struck me in particular:
In the Ukrainian segment of social networks, and even some domestic liberals, the explosion of Alexander Dugin's car and the death of his daughter were greeted with rejoicing. https://aif-ru.translate.goog/society/people/chto_pishut_o_gibeli_dari_duginoy_v_seti?from_inject=1&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
https://aif-s3.aif.ru/images/029/021/5e6d28f0c88e6a978ddacb5ac3070366.jpg
What's being written on the net about the death of Daria Dugina?
Political scientists, TV presenters, like-minded people and political opponents of Dugin immediately reacted to the explosion of the car of the philosopher Alexander Dugin , in which his daughter Daria died (she was driving) instantly, at night.
Recall that the explosion occurred while driving along the Mozhaisk highway, near the village of Bolshie Vyazemy. The 29-year-old girl was alone with the car and died on the spot. Alexander Dugin performed at the Tradition festival with his daughter Daria. As the violinist Pyotr Lundstrem said , Alexander Dugin was supposed to return to Moscow with his daughter, but at the last moment circumstances changed and he drove in another car with friends.
Basically, everyone expresses condolences and wonders who was the target of the explosion. And the law enforcement officers no longer doubt that it was an attempted murder, and not an accidental tragedy.
“Investigators are seizing all records from the video recorders of cars that were in the parking lot next to Darya Dugina’s car. The main version of the security forces is an attempted murder, writes Ksenia Sobchak . - The final song of today's "Tradition" was the composition "Dark Night", where there are famous lines "Death is not terrible, we met with it more than once in the steppe, And now it is spinning over me."
The death of the young woman shocked everyone who knew her personally. Margarita Simonyan , Vladimir Solovyov and many other famous people TV personaities reacted to her death.
“On the evening of August 20, I met Daria Platonova and her father Alexander Dugin at the Tradition festival. From the very first seconds, we plunged into the discussion. They talked about the Russian Idea, the Empire and the cultural war, - musician Akim Apachev writes in TG . - Dasha has always connected the difficult to connect. She was always sharp and deep in her attitude. It was she who showed my songs to Alexander Gelevich, after which he will write the main review in my life: “Those who are against Apachev, against the Empire.”
Political scientist Marat Bashirov recalls that well-known journalist Pavel Sheremet was also blown up in Kiev in 2016. Only then the car did not catch fire, and he died "as a result of injuries incompatible with life and life-critical blood loss." “I remember that a few months ago the target of terrorists from Kyiv was Vladimir Solovyov. Then it worked out. Not today, the political scientist writes in his TG.
“But the conclusion to be drawn is simple: we are winning the ideological war, today feathers are equated with bayonets. Otherwise there would be no such choice of purpose. With all due respect, Dugin is unknown to most Russians and his death would not be a resonant event, but in expert circles he is a noticeable figure. It is precisely those who work on the Web today who want to scare, the struggle of ideas and meanings is waged here.”
The political scientist, writer and publicist Nikolai Starikov also regarded the tragedy as a political murder : “If you ask what “crossing the red line” is, I will answer. This is individual terror. The desire to kill Alexander Dugin, which ultimately led to the death of his daughter Daria. Terrorist Carthage must be destroyed!
In the Ukrainian segment of social networks, and even some domestic liberals, the explosion of Alexander Dugin's car and the death of his daughter were greeted with rejoicing. The vicious comments unpleasantly struck even the opponents of the girl's father. For example, journalist and opposition blogger Kirill Shulika. It is immediately stipulated that his attitude towards Dugin himself is understandable, but this reaction is beyond the limit.
“I will never understand how someone is trying or will try to somehow justify what happened, to find an explanation why it should be so or to tell that, well, these are enemies, that’s the only way with them. I actually think it's some kind of biological creatures. But in reality, these are also people, but I wouldn’t even call them compatriots, I don’t want to have anything in common with them, if they forget the Russian language, I’ll be glad. However, I note that, nevertheless, nature has managed to create such types of people who seem to be absolutely no different from each other, but in reality they have more differences than a jackal and a bear, ”the blogger writes. And the explosion itself, according to his assumption, proves that “someone clearly wants everything to continue and escalate.”
Satori
21st August 2022, 13:51
Once I learned more about Daria Dugina the thought keeps occurring to me: could she have been the target, not her father?
She struck me as a rising star in the arena of politics and the like.
It seems the fall out from this may also prove to be greater than it might have been if only her father had been killed. However, she would have been killed in any event if her father had also been in the car.
This is just a feeling and recurring thought I have.
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 13:52
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1561292031548424194
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Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 14:06
https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1561213415946915840
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Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 14:07
From the Kremlin. This is a brief and cautious preliminary statement from Maria Zakharova, Director of the Information and Press Department of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
She never pulls her punches, and she's certain to say more very soon.
https://img.gazeta.ru/files3/752/15216752/RIAN_8235932.HR-pic4_zoom-1500x1500-13686.jpg
https://t.me/MariaVladimirovnaZakharova/3510MariaVladimirovnaZakharova/3510
The translation:
Russian law enforcement agencies are investigating the death of Daria Dugina.
If the Ukrainian trace is confirmed - and this version was voiced by the head of the DPR Denis Pushilin, and it must be verified by the competent authorities - then we should talk about the policy of state terrorism implemented by the Kyiv regime.
There have been plenty of facts accumulated over the years: from political calls for violence to the leadership and participation of Ukrainian state structures in crimes.
We are waiting for the results of the investigation.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 14:14
My personal comment on all I've read so far:
The Russians have been careful and cautious about (a) the entire military operation, and (b) almost everything they formally say about it to anyone. So they'll be as measured and disciplined about their response as they have been about everything else. But when the response comes, it'll be decisive.
Chester
21st August 2022, 14:16
So yes, there's a chance the soviets may have felt the need to make a move, so as to push Putin into a corner and cause him to act hard and end things now one way or another. But, this is a playing with fire scenario, the soviets are still powerful behind the scenes, but everyone knows who they are and where they have their pieces, it would be fatal to play this game and get found out. I'm not sure they want to go that route at all at this timeI'd even add a little more emphasis to that... I'm as sure as I can be that they'd absolutely not want to go down that route. It's way way too dangerous. It has to be 99% certain this was Ukrainian (and/or US/UK) special forces.
One thing that will be very very interesting is what Zelensky will say.
Zelensky quoted and paraphrased in the following -
Read the FOX News article - https://www.foxnews.com/world/daughter-top-putin-ally-alexander-dugin-pushed-ukraine-invasion-killed-car-bomb-outside-moscow
I can't bring myself to copy and paste it (I see the article as disgusting).
The setup is an impending "double" false flag on the Ukrainian nuclear plant in Zaporizhzhia. Russia will blame Ukrainian shelling but the west will paint the picture it was Russia (since they are a.) in control and b.) armed with a retaliatory motive).
As Blll said above "90+%" and for me, likely closer to 100% than 90%.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 14:28
Read the FOX News article - https://www.foxnews.com/world/daughter-top-putin-ally-alexander-dugin-pushed-ukraine-invasion-killed-car-bomb-outside-moscow
I can't bring myself to copy and paste it (I see the article as disgusting).
I've reached a kind of personal tipping point of anger and disgust today.
I'm confident that the Russians will handle everything carefully, rationally, and effectively. They almost always do. But it's not pleasant to see the so called 'first world' of the west disgrace itself over and over again in such an appalling way.
I'm close to saying that many of the citizens of the US, Canada, and the EU/UK deserve all that will be inevitably coming to them.
This is off-topic here, and I've posted this elsewhere. But I'm as sure as I can be that the US, Canada, and the EU/UK will implode faster and faster before our very eyes over the next 6-9 months. The tragedy is that millions will suffer, and tens of thousands will die.
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 14:46
https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1561336117739266050
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/rip-darya-dugina.html
RIP - Darya Dugina
Some voices on the death of Darya Dugina:
Car blast kills daughter of Russian philosopher Dugin - RT.com
Investigators suspect an improvised explosive device was used
A powerful explosion ripped apart an SUV near Moscow on Saturday night, instantly killing its driver, identified as Darya Dugina, the daughter of Russian political commentator Aleksandr Dugin.
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Earlier on Saturday evening, Dugin was giving a lecture on ‘Tradition and History’ at a family festival in Moscow Region. His daughter attended the event as a guest. Unconfirmed reports say Dugin initially planned to leave the festival with his daughter, but later decided to take a separate car, while Darya took his Toyota Land Cruiser Prado.
Dugina was a political commentator and daughter of the veteran Russian philosopher, known for his staunch anti-Western and ‘neo-Eurasian’ views.
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Western media has painted Dugin as a driving force behind President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy over the past decade. In recent months, CBS dubbed him “the far-right theorist behind Putin’s plan,” while the Washington Post called him a “far-right mystical writer who helped shape Putin’s view of Russia.”
In Russia, the supposed shadowy puppet master is largely considered to be a marginal figure. While he has served as an adviser to several politicians, Dugin never enjoyed official endorsement from the Kremlin. In 2014, he was fired from his position at Moscow State University, after critics interpreted his call to “kill, kill, kill” those behind massacres in Ukraine, such as the Odessa tragedy, as a call for a genocide against Ukrainian people.
The US think tank RAND Corporation wrote in 2017 that despite Western media reports of Dugin’s alleged “ties and connections” to the Russian leadership, he is “perhaps best thought of as an extremist provocateur with some limited and peripheral impact than as an influential analyst with a direct impact on policy.”
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The Assassination Of Alexander Dugin’s Daughter Darya Was A Dastardly Terrorist Attack - Andrew Korbyko
This targeted assassination that was indisputably influenced by half a decade’s worth of fake news about that philosopher shows the deadly consequences of America’s information warfare campaign. It also confirms that the declining unipolar hegemon’s proxies in Kiev are truly state sponsors of terrorism who must accordingly be treated as such by the international community. This dastardly terrorist attack threatens the legitimate rules-based order enshrined in the UN Charter and thus confirms that the US is deliberately sowing the seeds of chaos in a desperate last-ditch attempt to erode Russian morale after the slow but steady advance of its forces over the past half-year of its special military operation.
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Gerhard Mangott @gerhard_mangott - 11:31 UTC · Aug 21, 2022
Nach dem Mordanschlag auf die Tochter des rechtsnationalistischen russischen Ideologen Aleksander Dugin, wird nun immer darauf hingewiesen, dass er der ideologische Einflüsterer Putins ist. Das ist schlichtweg nicht wahr.
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Mark Sleboda @MarkSleboda1 - 9:11 UTC · Aug 21, 2022
The attempted assassination of Dugin which instead resulted in the killing of his daughter, was part of the increasingly demented propaganda and infowar of a desperate and crumbling U.S. proxy Putsch regime in Kiev in lieu of success on the battlefield of which it is incapable.
The killing of "Putin's brain" who "inspired" the Russian intervention in the Ukrainian civil conflict would be celebrated by Kiev regime propagandists as a "victory". It does not matter in the slightest that none of it is true.
It doesn't matter that in reality Dugin has never met or spoken to Putin. It doesn't matter that his unique ideas had zero influence in the Kremlin and little to none in the rest of Russian society. In doesn't matter that to the contrary the Kremlin got Dugin fired from Moscow State University and banned him from government media because of his strident views on the Putsch in Ukraine at a time when the Kremlin was pushing the Minsk accords to resolve the civil conflict there.
The truth doesn't matter because Dugin has been blown up as a caricature bogeyman in the minds of the West and Putsch-controlled Ukraine. And his assassination would thus still serve as a propaganda victory, in spite of it's complete divorce from reality.
In this, the Western media which caricatured and inflated Dugin and the Western governments which nonsensically sanctioned him are fully complicit in the murder of Darya Dugina, his daughter.
Some folks in Kiev and London will have to pay a high price for this ugly deed.
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 15:00
https://twitter.com/DeuNachrichten/status/1561222202418397184
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Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 15:22
I've been waiting for Alexander Mercouris, the best geopolitical commentator on the net, to make a comment.
He appeared on one of Gonzalo Lira's round tables here. The stream is still live, but Alexander expresses his opinion about 38 mins in from the start.
His main point so far is that it was a catastrophic mistake by whoever orchestrated this. They may have no idea how determined and resilient the Russians are. (my paraphrase)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVzkWGsTubE
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 15:26
https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1561363046953533440
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Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 16:36
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1561136032141246465
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Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 17:03
Some more from Russian news articles:
https://tvcenter-ru.translate.goog/zvezdy/o-30-letney-dare-duginoy/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
[extracted]
Who is Daria Dugina?
Beauty Daria Dugin was born in 1992 to the family of the philosopher and political scientist Alexander Dugin. His daughter followed in the footsteps of her famous father, graduated from the Faculty of Philosophy at Moscow State University and worked according to the will of her heart.
After studying, Daria got a job in radio, worked as a political observer and lectured. And in recent months, she actively supported the special operation in Donbass in word and deed. It is known that in the autumn it was planned to publish a book about the special operation in the Donbass, co-authored by Dugina.
https://tvcenter.ru/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/1-193-600x338.jpg
Meanwhile, the journalist spoke with Russian soldiers and militiamen of Donbass, supporting the goal of demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. As Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the administration of the Zaporozhye region, said:
This was especially evident during her trips to the Donbass, when she made live broadcasts from Mariupol and other places. It can be seen that she was not only imbued with the pain, suffering and experiences of people living in the southern Russian lands, but also understood how to win faster, how to free the land faster and build a peaceful life.
Daria Dugina was a patriot
The daughter of Alexander Dugin did not hide her patriotism, and last week, for her active socio-political position, together with her father, she was included in the sanctions list of Europe and America. Meanwhile, the Investigative Committee of Moscow concluded that the murder of Daria Dugina was ordered and well planned.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 17:14
A touching tribute from international journalist Abbas Juma (https://eng.rudn.ru/media/news/life-in-rudn/my-professional-life-began-the-moment-i-entered-university--abbas-juma-graduate-of-the-faculty-of-philology-of-rudn-university/).
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My dear sister, how can this be? I have known her for so many years. She never asked for anything, she always gave, helped, and supported. She was always so glad to see me. She was so sincerely interested in what was happening all around, she always asked questions so precisely, she thought and did so much.
Rest in peace.
Deepest condolences to family and friends.
I can not believe it...
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 17:33
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1561364159987580928
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Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 17:47
https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/1561395095290540032
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Chester
21st August 2022, 17:54
I've been waiting for Alexander Mercouris, the best geopolitical commentator on the net, to make a comment.
He appeared on one of Gonzalo Lira's round tables here. The stream is still live, but Alexander expresses his opinion about 38 mins in from the start.
His main point so far is that it was a catastrophic mistake by whoever orchestrated this. They may have no idea how determined and resilient the Russians are. (my paraphrase)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVzkWGsTubE
Thank you for sharing this discussion - it is still ongoing. The level of intelligence and developed character of the folks having this discussion might best be investigated by a member or two who has posted on this thread.
Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 18:36
In his update for today, Alex Christoforou, who leaves all his customary humor out of this and is clearly as shocked and angered as I feel myself, speaks about Daria's murder in the first 8+ minutes of the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSE8iqqAR7M
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 18:54
https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1561400012600332288
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Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 19:18
Below is a link to a very long page which publishes a large number of posts from Russian social media. It's a selected sample, of course, but I'd be certain it's a good representation of the shock and anger felt throughout Russia.
It's way too long to copy, and the auto-translation is sometimes a little patchy. But some here may find it very worthwhile and intertesting to read.
The Russians are measured, cautious and deliberate in their responses to just about everything. But the sheer strength of feeling in the country will compel them to act decisively once all the facts of the incident are known.
https://www-svoboda-org.translate.goog/a/ot-terrora-sbu-do-zhertvy-fsb-sotsseti-o-smerti-darji-duginoy/31998033.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 19:24
https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1561431860332429314
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JackMcThorn
21st August 2022, 19:55
I am not shocked, or angered at the recent developments of the day. One may think there are rules to war; and one might become excited or angered when it seems that the rules are not followed. The Hague and Geneva might set some of the guidance; and some bad actors might be held to account 'after the fact'; but the truth is, no one follows all of the rules all of the time. There typically is no such thing as a fair fight. No matter how honourable a side might project themselves to be: they still do not follow all of the rules all of the time. America consistently errs on the side of honour and look at their disgusting track record for decades [for example].
The truth is indeed ugly. This is the absolute basis for the beginning of white-lies. People who take the time to be honest with themselves are most likely to change for the better; to be able to present the better truth as opposed to the ugly truth.
The search for the truth is not an excuse to be impartial. At some point, a person will choose sides. It is inevitable. The lessor of two evils is indeed a choice. Some of the best managers and tacticians understand this component of decision-making.
If Aleksandr Dugin was the primary target [which is highly probable], the mission failed. If Ukraine is responsible [which is still unknown at this time] they failed. They did not 'cross some line'. Russia is not going to just 'open a can of whup @ss' over it. Decision-makers will do their job and act accordingly. When one thinks about the media, the media's job is to incite emotion. Only a person has personal control over themselves whether they will be moved or not over the presentation. We know the Russian is one to be patient, for a long time. [All good things in due time.]
So I am not surprised of the attack 2o kilometres from Moscow. What I am surprised with is no one has taken credit for the attack. Usually, terrorist type attacks are quick to claim credit. The clandestine; however, is a different story. They are designed not to take credit. If the clandestine elements are involved, there will be little to no signature of the device attached to the vehicle. The investigation will turn up empty and unsatisfying.
On Thursday of last week I bumped into someone at the pharmacy and they guessed I was american and a guest here in Ireland. We were talking small talk about politics a little and he said 'yester-day is history and to-morrow is a mystery' which got me thinking a little. Turns out that is part of a quote from Bill Keane.
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 20:35
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1561409650234429440
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Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 20:48
https://twitter.com/ToddKolod/status/1561430159433125889
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/21/ex-russian-mp-claims-russian-partisans-responsible-for-moscow-car-bomb
Ex-Russian MP claims Russian partisans responsible for Moscow car bomb
Speaking in Kyiv, Ilya Ponomarev alleges bomb that killed daughter of Putin ally was work of underground group
A former member of Russia’s Duma who was expelled for anti-Kremlin activities has claimed that Russian partisans were allegedly behind a car bomb which blew up the daughter of one of Vladimir Putin’s close political allies on the outskirts of Moscow.
Speaking in Kyiv, where he is based, Ilya Ponomarev alleged the explosion on Saturday evening was the work of the National Republican Army, which he claimed was an underground group working inside Russia and dedicated to overthrowing the Putin regime.
The Guardian has not verified the authenticity of Ponomarev’s claims. Russian commentators have blamed Ukraine for the attack, a claim Kyiv strongly denies.
“This action, like many other partisan actions carried out on the territory of Russia in recent months, was carried out by the National Republican Army (NRA),” Ponomarev said. He was speaking in a 7pm broadcast on February Morning, a Russian-language opposition TV channel he launched in Kyiv earlier this year.
He added: “A momentous event took place near Moscow last night. This attack opens a new page in Russian resistance to Putinism. New – but not the last.”
The blast killed Darya Dugina, the 30-year-old daughter of the Russian political commentator and far-right ideologue Alexander Dugin, both of whom had been sanctioned by the UK and US for acting to destabilise Ukraine.
Ponomarev said partisans inside Russia were ready to conduct further similar attacks against high-profile Kremlin-connected targets, including officials, oligarchs and members of Russia’s security agencies.
The former deputy read what purported to be an NRA manifesto: “We declare President Putin a usurper of power and a war criminal who amended the Constitution, unleashed a fratricidal war between the Slavic peoples and sent Russian soldiers to certain and senseless death.
“Poverty and coffins for some, palaces for others – the essence of his policy. We believe that disenfranchised people have the right to rebel against tyrants. Putin will be deposed and destroyed by us!”
Ponomarev confirmed his comments in a message sent by text. A leftwing member of Russia’s parliament, he was the only deputy to vote in 2014 against the annexation of Crimea.
A vengeful Kremlin barred him when he was on a trip to the US from re-entering his own country. He became a Ukrainian citizen in 2019. In March, after the invasion of Ukraine, he launched February Morning and Rozpartisan, a Telegram channel which gives news updates of anti-war actions in Russian towns and cities.
Ponomarev’s feud with Putin is well known. His claim there is an active indigenous underground movement seeking to assassinate prominent supporters of the war inside Russia would, if true, mark a dramatic escalation. It is likely to enrage – if not necessarily convince – the Kremlin.
The alleged manifesto declared that the Russian government and regional administrations are Putin’s “accomplices”.
“Those who do not resign their power will be destroyed by us,” it said.
Other targets include corrupt businessmen, the homes and properties of those who fail to condemn the Kremlin and its war, and “employees of power structures”. Military cargoes and people who profit from them will also be wiped out, it said.
The statement promised the NRA would not target civilians. It described Daria Dugina as a legitimate target and “faithful companion” to her father, who supported genocide in Ukraine. “She was a voice calling for violence and murder” in Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine, it stated.
Prominent Russian hawks have demanded the Kremlin respond by targeting government officials in Kyiv. “Decision-making centres!! Decision-making centres!!!” wrote Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-chief of the state-funded RT television station, reposting a call to bomb the headquarters of the Ukrainian SBU intelligence agency.
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Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 21:32
We may need a different thread to discuss these issues (about 'propaganda') — specifically because they're important.Okay, I feel we've got to that point. (Definitely.) This thread is to discuss the incident, and its possible ramifications and consequences, which may be serious in a whole bunch of geopolitical ways.
I've moved 26 (twenty-six) posts to start a new standalone thread, provisionally titled Propaganda Wars (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119317-Propaganda-Wars), in the Manipulation in the Media (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?167-Manipulation-in-the-Media) section. (But maybe a better title will become obvious to all.)
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Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 22:17
More is emerging that seems to be significant.
https://aif-ru.translate.goog/incidents/na_parkovke_festivalya_otkuda_uezzhala_dugina_ne_rabotali_kamery?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
In the parking lot of the festival, where Daria Dugina left, the cameras did not work
The cameras in the parking lot of the Tradition festival in the Moscow region, from where journalist Daria Dugina left before her death, did not work. This is reported by RIA Novosti (https://translate.google.com/website?sl=ru&tl=en&hl=en&prev=search&u=http://ria.ru) with reference to the deputy director of the Center for Geopolitical Expertise, editor-in-chief of the portal "Eurasia" Natalia Makeeva.
According to her, the Eurasian Youth Union urged the participants and guests of the festival to save any recordings from video recorders.
“The fact is that, as the investigation has now found out, the cameras in the parking lot were not working, and therefore, in principle, any recording can ultimately help the investigation,” Makeeva said.
Recall that the car driven by Dugina exploded the night before in the Moscow region. The girl died on the spot. The UK believes that the murder was ordered. The media, referring to law enforcement officers, stated that the philosopher Alexander Dugin and his daughter Daria received (https://aif-ru.translate.goog/incidents/duginy_poluchali_ugrozy_ot_ukrainskih_nacionalistov_smi?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc) threats from Ukrainian nationalists, but did not attach any importance to them. At the same time, Kiev denied (https://aif-ru.translate.goog/politics/v_kieve_otricayut_prichastnost_k_ubiystvu_duginoy_v_rf?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc) any involvement in the incident.
The explosive device attached to Dugina's car contained (https://aif-ru.translate.goog/incidents/v_avtomobile_duginoy_bylo_zalozheno_okolo_400_gramm_trotila?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc) at least 400 grams of TNT.
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 22:25
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1561473218497503232
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Bill Ryan
21st August 2022, 22:42
Alexander Mercouris, who is a class act in every way that matters, addresses Daria Dugina's death in the first 4 minutes of this video. His statesmanship is admirable.
He's a trained and qualified lawyer, and adheres (rightly) to the principle of innocence unless proven guilty. So he makes no assumptions, but is confident the Russian authorities will quickly learn a great deal more. It's worth listening to for those 4 minutes alone, and to appreciate (as always) his very fine choice of words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oCKbF7Owfc
arwen
21st August 2022, 22:47
Kiev denies responsibility for Dugina killing
Ukraine didn’t stage the attack because it’s not a “terrorist state,” an aid to Zelensky said (https://www.rt.com/russia/561254-kiev-denies-dugina-assassination/)
Kiev has nothing to do with the assassination of Darya Dugina, the daughter of Russian political commentator and philosopher Alexandr Dugin, an aide to Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said on Sunday.
Speaking on national television, Mikhail Podoliak said that his country is not “a terrorist state,” an apparent response to suspicion voiced by officials that Kiev might be behind the bombing.
“I want to stress out that Ukraine, of course, has nothing to do with this, because we are not a criminal state, unlike Russia, and especially not a terrorist state,” he noted.
Podoliak also indicated that the killing of Dugin’s daughter is “a testament to the ongoing struggle for power and influence among various groups in Russia.”
Details about assassination of ‘Russian world’ ideologue’s daughter revealed
Read more Details about assassination of ‘Russian world’ ideologue’s daughter revealed
Moreover, he did not rule out that Russia could use the blast as an excuse for announcing a large-scale mobilization amid the military offensive in Ukraine. Moscow has denied all claims it plans to do so, castigating such speculation as “bogus stories.”
Podoliak’s comments came after Denis Pushilin, the leader of the Donetsk People’s Republic, accused the “terrorists of the Ukrainian regime” of carrying out the bombing. However, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova did not pin the blame on Kiev but noted that if investigators determine that Ukraine is indeed responsible, this “would be the case of state terrorism policies carried out by the Kiev regime.”
Dugina was killed Saturday night outside Moscow when the SUV she was driving was ripped apart in an explosion. According to Russia’s Investigative Committee, the blast was caused by a bomb that had been attached to the underside of the vehicle. Investigators believe the attack to have been premeditated and to be a contract job.
Earlier on Saturday evening, Aleksandr Dugin was giving a lecture at a family festival called ‘Tradition’ in Moscow Region. Dugina was in attendance at the event. Several reports say Dugin initially planned to leave the festival with his daughter but later decided to take a separate car, while Darya took his Toyota Land Cruiser Prado.
Dugin is known for his staunch anti-Western and ‘neo-Eurasian’ views. Western media has portrayed him as a driving force behind key aspects of President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy. However, despite his reputation in the West, in Russia he has never enjoyed official endorsement from the Kremlin and is largely considered a marginal figure.
Source: https://www.rt.com/russia/561254-kiev-denies-dugina-assassination/
Ravenlocke
21st August 2022, 23:09
Another theory maybe, REGNUM News Agency???
https://twitter.com/apocalypseos/status/1561463499263356928
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https://twitter.com/apocalypseos/status/1561464225163145216
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arwen
21st August 2022, 23:23
This would seem to align with the theory that Britain may have been involved:
British soldiers told to get ready for war against Russia - and prepare loved ones (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-soldiers-told-ready-war-27791322)
Warrant Officer Paul Carney said soldiers should prepare their families for the possibility of being sent to Ukraine to fight Russia in the war which has now been going on six months...
The Army’s top “other ranks” soldier says troops must be ready to fight Russia – and should alert loved ones to a potential conflict.
Warrant Officer Paul Carney warned that the UK military was now “shaping itself to meet the threat from Russia and was ready to counter any aggression”.
The time had come to prepare “families and loved ones” for the possibility of being sent to the East.
Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-soldiers-told-ready-war-27791322
I am B
21st August 2022, 23:48
It is always smart to be skeptic, but with articles like this seems preety obvious at this point that it wasn't just a Russian inner affair... propaganda talks, imho
https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1561492175090769920
off: cool pic Bill, cannot say i'm not resisting from writing "straight outta avalon", put a parental advisory in it, and make it the cover for my next Hip-Hop album.
vizon
22nd August 2022, 00:22
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arwen
22nd August 2022, 01:22
Alex Jones weighs in: (The first 23 minutes of this video, also with input from Robert Barnes, who then goes on to co-host and discuss other matters)
Sunday Emergency Broadcast: Car Bombing of Russian Nationalist Leader’s Daughter Threatens WWIII-Level Escalation of War in Ukraine - FULL SHOW - 08/21/2022 (https://censoredbyjack.com/watch?id=6302cb2a9e638f13f9a3267b)
9ideon
22nd August 2022, 07:50
This is worth watching, a twist, smells like certain players....
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Mashika
22nd August 2022, 12:07
https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/15531419
FSB solves Dugina's murder
© Sergey Bobylev/TASS
The FSB found that "the crime was prepared and committed by the Ukrainian special services," and its perpetrator is a citizen of Ukraine Natalia Vovk, who fled to Estonia after the murder
MOSCOW, 22 August. /TASS/. The murder of journalist Daria Dugina has been solved, it was prepared by the Ukrainian special services, the performer is a citizen of Ukraine Natalia Vovk, who disappeared after the crime in Estonia. This was reported to TASS on Monday at the Center for Public Relations of the FSB of Russia.
"As a result of a complex of urgent operational-search measures, the Federal Security Service has solved the murder of Russian journalist Darya Dugina, born in 1992," the FSB stressed. The special service established that "the crime was prepared and committed by the Ukrainian special services," and its perpetrator is a citizen of Ukraine Vovk Natalya Pavlovna, born in 1979.
She arrived in Russia on July 23, 2022, together with her daughter Shaban Sofia Mikhailovna, born in 2010. “On the day of the murder, Vovk and Shaban were at the Tradition literary and music festival, where Dugina was present as an honored guest. region to Estonia," the FSB said.
The secret service clarified that in order to organize the murder of Dugina and obtain information about her lifestyle, Vovk and her daughter rented an apartment in Moscow in the house where the deceased lived. The criminals used a Mini Cooper car to monitor the journalist. At the same time, when entering Russia, the numbers of the Donetsk People's Republic were used - Е982ХН DPR, in Moscow - Kazakhstani numbers 172AJD02, and when leaving - Ukrainian numbers AH7771IP. "The materials of the investigation have been transferred to the Investigative Committee," the FSB added.
Earlier, the Russian opposition leader Ilya Ponomarev, on the air of the YouTube channel "Morning of February", said that the so-called National Republican Army could be behind the murder of the daughter of the philosopher of the Russian world, Daria Dugina. At the same time, Ponomarev himself called for joining the NRA and providing support to this organization.
https://t.me/levigodman/4687
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Bill Ryan
22nd August 2022, 12:14
The FSB found that "the crime was prepared and committed by the Ukrainian special services"Well, good. (In a way!)
The Ukrainians can now expect hell to pay.
Mashika
22nd August 2022, 12:22
The FSB found that "the crime was prepared and committed by the Ukrainian special services"Well, good. (In a way!)
The Ukrainians can now expect hell to pay.
Not long ago.... :facepalm::silent:
"Ukraine is not involved in killing of Dugin's daughter – Office of President SUNDAY, 21 AUGUST 2022, 12:02"
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/21/7364194/
Quote from Podoliak: "Ukraine, of course, has nothing to do with yesterday's explosion [Darya Dugina was killed when her car exploded in flames on the outskirts of Moscow - ed.], because we are not a criminal state, which the Russian Federation is, and even more so not a terrorist state."
It only took one day to prove him wrong, another day another lie from the UkroNazi state. There's no honor to be found in anything they say or do
9ideon
22nd August 2022, 12:30
The FSB found that "the crime was prepared and committed by the Ukrainian special services"Well, good. (In a way!)
The Ukrainians can now expect hell to pay.
Not long ago.... :facepalm::silent:
"Ukraine is not involved in killing of Dugin's daughter – Office of President SUNDAY, 21 AUGUST 2022, 12:02"
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/21/7364194/
Quote from Podoliak: "Ukraine, of course, has nothing to do with yesterday's explosion [Darya Dugina was killed when her car exploded in flames on the outskirts of Moscow - ed.], because we are not a criminal state, which the Russian Federation is, and even more so not a terrorist state."
It only took one day to prove him wrong, another day another lie from the UkroNazi state. There's no honor to be found in anything they say or do
I feel sad, there's no point to any of this type of terror, just feel sad, no other words.
Mashika
22nd August 2022, 12:33
On the ID of her, the name is Shaban, same as in the car sell ad
As soon as the publication of the car sell ad was made public on Telegram, she removed the ad
Not as smart to get away in the shadows as she thought she was, she has now become a liability for the UkroNazi state. I wonder what will happen to her next
https://t.me/intelslava/35843
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Bill Ryan
22nd August 2022, 12:38
The Russian media are full of the new findings. (Click here (https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D1%8F+%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&biw=1067&bih=541&tbs=qdr%3Ah&ei=n90CY9yNELqEwbkPkoSbgA4&ved=0ahUKEwic2b3Rp9n5AhU6QjABHRLCBuAQ4dUDCA0&oq=%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D1%8F+%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAxKBAhBGABKBAhGGABQAFgAYABoAHAAeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQA&sclient=gws-wiz) to see more.)
Here's the first page I looked at:
https://www-svoboda-org.translate.goog/a/fsb-uzhe-vse-raskryla-kto-mozhet-stoyatj-za-ubiystvom-darji-duginoy/31999191.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
Has the FSB already discovered who was behind the murder of Daria Dugina?
https://gdb.rferl.org/013e0000-0aff-0242-1a7c-08da83d83e05_cx0_cy12_cw0_w1023_r1_s.jpg
Daria Dugina
The Federal Security Service of Russia announced the disclosure of the murder of Daria Dugina, the daughter of the right-wing radical philosopher and ideologist of the "Russian world" Alexander Dugin. This happened less than two days after Dugina's car was blown up in the Moscow region.
The FSB states that the crime was prepared and committed by the special services of Ukraine. According to the agency, Ukrainian citizen Natalia Vovk, born in 1979, is directly suspected of the murder. She allegedly came to Russia with her 12-year-old daughter and rented an apartment in Moscow in the same building where Dugina lived. On August 20, Vovk and his daughter, according to the FSB, were at the Tradition festival, where Alexander Dugin performed and his daughter Daria was present.
ramus
22nd August 2022, 13:27
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/21/ex-russian-mp-claims-russian-partisans-responsible-for-moscow-car-bomb
Ex-Russian MP claims Russian partisans responsible for Moscow car bomb
Speaking in Kyiv, Ilya Ponomarev alleges bomb that killed daughter of Putin ally was work of underground group
A former member of Russia’s Duma who was expelled for anti-Kremlin activities has claimed that Russian partisans were allegedly behind a car bomb which blew up the daughter of one of Vladimir Putin’s close political allies on the outskirts of Moscow.
Speaking in Kyiv, where he is based, Ilya Ponomarev alleged the explosion on Saturday evening was the work of the National Republican Army, which he claimed was an underground group working inside Russia and dedicated to overthrowing the Putin regime.
The Guardian has not verified the authenticity of Ponomarev’s claims. Russian commentators have blamed Ukraine for the attack, a claim Kyiv strongly denies.
Ponomarev said partisans inside Russia were ready to conduct further similar attacks against high-profile Kremlin-connected targets, including officials, oligarchs and members of Russia’s security agencies.
The former deputy read what purported to be an NRA manifesto: “We declare President Putin a usurper of power and a war criminal who amended the Constitution, unleashed a fratricidal war between the Slavic peoples and sent Russian soldiers to certain and senseless death.
“Poverty and coffins for some, palaces for others – the essence of his policy. We believe that disenfranchised people have the right to rebel against tyrants. Putin will be deposed and destroyed by us!”
Bill Ryan
22nd August 2022, 13:53
A brief up-to-date summary from available published information, which seems to be very reliable.
The person who planted the bomb that was remotely activated to kill Daria Dugina appears to be Natalia Vovk, a member of the Azov Regiment.
She left Russia on 21 August (yesterday) and is now in Estonia.
Vovk, with her young daughter Sofya Shaban, rented an apartment in the house where Daria lived in Moscow.
A Mini Cooper was used to spy on Daria. The numbers were changed three times on it — the license plates of the DPR, Kazakhstan and Ukraine were used.
https://projectavalon.net/Natalia_Vovk.jpg
9ideon
22nd August 2022, 14:19
A brief up-to-date summary from available published information, which seems to be very reliable.
The person who planted the bomb that was remotely activated to kill Daria Dugina appears to be Natalia Vovk, a member of the Azov Regiment.
She left Russia on 21 August (yesterday) and is now in Estonia.
Vovk, with her young daughter Sofya Shaban, rented an apartment in the house where Daria lived in Moscow.
A Mini Cooper was used to spy on Daria. The numbers were changed three times on it — the license plates of the DPR, Kazakhstan and Ukraine were used.
First I figured that daughters age was a typo, 12 seems correct, just shows how twisted these types are (bringing a Child to kill someone). Unbelievable.
Ravenlocke
22nd August 2022, 14:43
https://twitter.com/elenaevdokimov7/status/1561676612932075521
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https://twitter.com/elenaevdokimov7/status/1561697148269654018
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Ravenlocke
22nd August 2022, 14:53
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1561723186546360323
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Chester
22nd August 2022, 15:16
Articles of interest (also the comment sections) -
http://thesaker.is/ukraine-update-dugina-murder-and-blacklisting-of-roger-waters/
http://thesaker.is/fly-like-an-eagle-darya-dugina/
http://thesaker.is/the-great-patriotic-war-as-seen-through-soviet-cinema-for-todays-battle-against-amnesia/
Ravenlocke
22nd August 2022, 15:20
https://twitter.com/tassagency_en/status/1561708466854567938
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https://twitter.com/tassagency_en/status/1561730787422212096
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Jim_Duyer
22nd August 2022, 15:21
His Wikipedia page claims he was Putin's brain as stated in a pervious post. Read the second quote about Dugin and his daughter. Her name anagrams (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Daria+Dugin&language=english&t=500&d=&include=guardian&exclude=&n=&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) to Guardian ID. The former head of DARPA Regina E. Dungan name anagrams (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=regina+e+dugan&language=english&t=500&d=&include=&exclude=&n=4&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) to Guardian Gene. Douglas Rain who played the voice of the HAL-9000 name anagrams (https://new.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Douglas+Rain&language=english&t=500&d=&include=&exclude=&n=3&m=&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=1&source=adv) to Guardian Sol & Iguana Lords.
Considered by some in the West to be "Putin's brain,"[13] or "Putin's philosopher," Dugin is believed by some to have laid the ideological groundwork for the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022[14][15] as part of his advocacy for Ukraine becoming "a purely administrative sector of the Russian centralized state", which he refers to as Novorossiya.[16]
Sanctions
On 11 March 2015, the United States Department of the Treasury added Dugin to its list of Russian citizens who are sanctioned as a result of their involvement in the Ukrainian crisis; his Eurasian Youth Union was targeted too.[124] In June 2015, Canada added Dugin to its list of sanctioned individuals.[125]
On 3 March 2022 the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned the outlet Geopolitika [ru] due to its alleged control by Dugin. Additionally, the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned Dugin's daughter Darya Aleksandrovna Dugina on the basis of her work as chief editor of the website United World International (UWI). According to the United States Department of the Treasury, UWI was developed as part of Project Lakhta, owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is held responsible for part of the Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[126][127]
Very clever of you to pick out the anagrams - my own research tells me that this scheme is used frequently, almost as a sort of taunt to the rest of us. Another ploy is to assign project names to those of current stars of sports, music or movies - to muddy the search engine waters. I wonder if it's a rule that they need to follow?
ExomatrixTV
22nd August 2022, 16:21
Russia Blames Kiev For Deadly Moscow Blast (https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-blames-kiev-for-deadly-moscow-blast)
Russia blames Kiev for Moscow assassination attempt – Ukrainians flee Kiev en masse
https://i0.wp.com/www.frontnieuws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Aleksandr-Dugin-e-Darya-attack.jpg?resize=696%2C422&ssl=1 (https://i0.wp.com/www.frontnieuws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Aleksandr-Dugin-e-Darya-attack.jpg?fit=825%2C500&ssl=1)
The car bomb attack outside Moscow on Saturday night, which killed journalist Darya Dugina, was orchestrated and carried out by Ukrainian secret services, Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) has said, Hal Turner (https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/) writes .
Dugina was killed while returning from a conservative “Traditional Festival” held in the Moscow region. She was the daughter of the anti-Western writer and political commentator Aleksandr Dugin. Like her father, she was known for her vocal support of the Russian military operation in Ukraine.
In a statement on Monday, the FSB said Ukrainian national Natalya Vovk, born in 1979, carried out the bombing. The FSB also states that Vovk did not act on its own, but as the executor of a plan of the Ukrainian intelligence services.
According to the FSB, Vovk arrived in Russia on July 23 with her teenage daughter and rented an apartment in the Moscow building where the victim also lived.
Investigators say the bomb in the car she was driving was detonated remotely; so whoever did this knew she was the one in the car.
https://i0.wp.com/www.frontnieuws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Vovk.jpg?resize=696%2C298&ssl=1
Documents and photos of the killer of Daria Dugina – a “soldier” of the terrorist organization “Azov Regiment” – Natalia Vovk (née Shaban) (via Thesaker.is (http://thesaker.is/ukraine-update-dugina-murder-and-blacklisting-of-roger-waters/) ) According to Russian sources (https://yandex.ru/turbo/vz.ru/s/news/2022/8/22/1173849.html) , Natalia Vovk is now hiding in Estonia, a member of the EU and NATO.
No diplomatic solution
Meanwhile, in related news, Russia's Permanent Representative to the United Nations in Geneva told media: "We do not see the possibility of a diplomatic solution in Ukraine and expect a long conflict."
If there was any reluctance on the part of Putin to launch a massive attack on Ukraine, followed by a major offensive, it all went up in smoke after Dugina's assassination.
(https://www.frontnieuws.com/oekraine-huisvest-illegale-vs-biologische-oorlogsvoering-laboratoria/)
It doesn't matter WHO did it. Blaming one side or the other is only philosophical, and will be written in the history books by the WINNER.
What matters is that this assassination attempt is an escalation, and will be followed by a larger escalation… and so on.
It's not that this assassination - in itself - is a trigger for anything, but it certainly adds infernal pressure on Putin, who for 6 months killed those around him who called for carpet bombing of Ukraine, bombing of NATO bases in Europe, mobilization, etc. has had to withstand.
Whatever excuses Putin had for "holding back," they no longer hold up.
Ukrainians flee Kiev
Videos surfaced of massive traffic jams OUTSIDE Kiev, Ukraine, Sunday. The inhabitants are fleeing by the tens of thousands.
In addition, the Ukrainian government has ordered all government workers in the Kiev region to work from home from Monday.
Here is one such video showing the traffic jam outside Kiev Sunday evening:
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What was the reason for this sudden evacuation?
Rumor has it that when Turkish President Recypt Erdogan and UN Secretary-General Gutierrez paid a visit to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky this week, they presented an “Ultimatum” from Russia:
1) Agree to all conditions set for the commencement of the special military operation, OR;
2) On August 24, Ukraine will face a massive air and missile barrage, losing all bridges across the Dnieper, “key decision-making centers” , several power plants, Nikolaev and Odessa.
While this is a RUMOR, it is clear that something has "deterred" the residents of Kiev and they are not taking any chances; they flee.
dutch (https://www.frontnieuws.com/rusland-geeft-kiev-de-schuld-van-de-moordaanslag-in-moskou-oekrainers-ontvluchten-massaal-kiev) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳
Jim_Duyer
22nd August 2022, 17:00
FSB found the name of a Ukrainian terrorist, who killed Dugina, it is a Ukrainian citizen Natalia Vovk. After the murder, the terrorist left through Pvskov to Estonia.
Does nobody else feel that this is somewhat too convenient? Sloppy beyond belief? Buying and selling cars, changing plates, renting in the same building, bringing a child along - what type of intelligence group would do that?
It reminds me of Oswald. I think we should dig a bit deeper.
9ideon
22nd August 2022, 17:16
FSB found the name of a Ukrainian terrorist, who killed Dugina, it is a Ukrainian citizen Natalia Vovk. After the murder, the terrorist left through Pvskov to Estonia.
Does nobody else feel that this is somewhat too convenient? Sloppy beyond belief? Buying and selling cars, changing plates, renting in the same building, bringing a child along - what type of intelligence group would do that?
It reminds me of Oswald. I think we should dig a bit deeper.
Pretty obvious they want Russia to know they (Azov) are behind it, that's the way they roll. They are now at the stage that they believe in their own "legend" (not that they are, but that's how they see themselves). End is nye for types like that, kinda like spasms. They'll probably try and take out a couple more innocent and easy targets, can't see 'm take out anyone in the decision making team. I do believe they'll get even more special attention from Mockba now, probably by the likes of certain People with very specific skills.
Ravenlocke
22nd August 2022, 17:38
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1561767878747095040
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Jim_Duyer
22nd August 2022, 17:39
FSB found the name of a Ukrainian terrorist, who killed Dugina, it is a Ukrainian citizen Natalia Vovk. After the murder, the terrorist left through Pvskov to Estonia.
Does nobody else feel that this is somewhat too convenient? Sloppy beyond belief? Buying and selling cars, changing plates, renting in the same building, bringing a child along - what type of intelligence group would do that?
It reminds me of Oswald. I think we should dig a bit deeper.
Pretty obvious they want Russia to know they (Azov) are behind it, that's the way they roll. They are now at the stage that they believe in their own "legend" (not that they are, but that's how they see themselves). End is nye for types like that, kinda like spasms. They'll probably try and take out a couple more innocent and easy targets, can't see 'm take out anyone in the decision making team. I do believe they'll get even more special attention from Mockba now, probably by the likes of certain People with very specific skills.
The "leaders" actions in Ukraine today are like watching a child play with a gun - no good can come of it. Well, they dealt it, so now they will have to deal with it. I guess you may be right about their flagrant attitude.
Ravenlocke
22nd August 2022, 17:43
https://sputniknews.com/20220822/russia-to-raise-murder-of-daria-dugina-at-emergency-unsc-meeting-on-tuesday---nebenzia-1099870171.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Russia to Raise Murder of Daria Dugina at Emergency UNSC Meeting on Tuesday - Nebenzia
UNTED NATIONS (Sputnik) - Russia will raise the assassination of Russian journalist and political analyst Daria Dugina during an emergency UN Security Council meeting on Tuesday, Ambassador to the United Nations Vasily Nebenzia told reporters on Monday.
"We requested an urgent meeting on Zaporozhye, where Ukrainian provocations do not stop. Of course, we will talk about this episode [the murder of Daria Dugina]," Nebenzia said. "This demonstrates the nature of the Ukrainian state, because the connection between their saboteurs and this murder is obvious, which, in fact, has already been disclosed by the FSB."
Meanwhile, Secretary-General Antonio Guterres' office has called for a full investigation into Dugina's murder.
The car Dugina, 29, was driving caught fire on Mozhayskoye Highway in the Odintsovsky District on Saturday night. The Russian Investigative Committee established that an explosive device was planted under the bottom of the car.
Ravenlocke
22nd August 2022, 18:35
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1561736413007458306
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ExomatrixTV
22nd August 2022, 19:43
What Really Happened To Dugin's Daughter?
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Jim_Duyer
22nd August 2022, 20:12
Something to consider here, IMHO. I've had some experience with brawling - lost my stripes twice because of it. And they always start with some little bitty guy, with a big mouth, who stands in front and pokes the big guy on the other side. But he only does that because he has quite a few people behind him, ready to go. So by telling us, or claiming, that they committed this heinous act, the Ukraine is the little guy, poking Russia the big guy, clearly. But who is the group behind him, giving him courage? That's who should pay.
Chester
22nd August 2022, 20:24
Russia releases video of suspected Moscow car bomber
http://thesaker.is/russia-releases-video-of-suspected-moscow-car-bomber/
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Bill Ryan
22nd August 2022, 20:33
Russia releases video of suspected Moscow car bomber
http://thesaker.is/russia-releases-video-of-suspected-moscow-car-bomber/
MjxZhzbTx64Thanks, very interesting indeed. :thumbsup:
Here's the translation of the 4 segments of the short video:
Vovk enters the Russian Federation.
Vovk enters the building in which Daria Dugina lived.
Vovk leaves Russia for Estonia.
Screenshots of Vovk in her Mini Cooper trailing Dugina (using 3 different license plates).
ThePythonicCow
22nd August 2022, 20:54
But who is the group behind him, giving him courage? That's who should pay.
I'd guess those behind this speak English, of some form or other (some Brits would be quick to remind the Yanks across the pond that they don't speak proper English).
(Fortunately, the Yanks would scarcely take insult, having a deaf ear for wry British humor.)
Tintin
22nd August 2022, 20:58
Russia releases video of suspected Moscow car bomber
http://thesaker.is/russia-releases-video-of-suspected-moscow-car-bomber/
MjxZhzbTx64Thanks, very interesting indeed. :thumbsup:
Here's the translation of the 4 segments of the short video:
Vovk enters the Russian Federation.
Vovk enters the building in which Daria Dugina lived.
Vovk leaves Russia for Estonia.
Screenshots of Vovk in her Mini Cooper trailing Dugina (using 3 different license plates).
wow, she must really have been on their (FSB) radar but of course without proof of any wrongdoing there's little perhaps they could have done, before the fact
Chester
22nd August 2022, 21:12
The following was shared to me by a friend. I cannot verify any source. Nevertheless I cannot imagine it isn't what it has been presented to be -
Alexandr Dugin about the tragedy:
“As you all know, as a result of a terrorist attack carried out by the Nazi Ukrainian regime, on August 20, when returning from the Tradition festival near Moscow, my daughter Daria Dugina was brutally killed by an explosion in front of my eyes.
She was a beautiful Orthodox girl, a patriot, a military correspondent, an expert on the central channels, and a philosopher. Her speeches and reporting have always been profound, grounded and restrained. She never called for violence and war.
She was a rising star at the beginning of her journey. The enemies of Russia meanly, stealthily killed her...
But we, our people, cannot be broken even by such unbearable blows. They wanted to crush our will with bloody terror against the best and most vulnerable of us. But they won't get it.
Our hearts yearn for more than just revenge or retribution. It's too petty, not Russian. We only need our Victory. My daughter laid her maiden life on the altar. So win, please!
We wanted to raise her to be smart and a hero.
Let it inspire the sons of our Fatherland to the feat even now.
Farewell to Daria Dugina (Platonova) - a civil memorial service - will be held on August 23 at the Ostankino Television Center (Moscow) at 10 am."
Bill Ryan
22nd August 2022, 21:22
The following was shared to me by a friend. I cannot verify any source.
Here's the full statement. It translates exactly as your friend shared it.
https://t.me/kvmalofeev/921
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Tintin
22nd August 2022, 21:44
(Fortunately, the Yanks would scarcely take insult, having a deaf ear for wry British humor.)
Is that humor or humour? :p
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Ravenlocke
22nd August 2022, 23:38
https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1561412678626824194
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1561818009261465600
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Bill Ryan
23rd August 2022, 07:09
Mashika would be far batter equipped than myself to find good sources, but as best I can see in Russia there's wall-to-wall media coverage of Daria's memorial event, which is taking place right now. (One might try using this link (https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C%D1%8F+%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:h&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj5n7ChtNz5AhVhsoQIHYnnAMsQpwV6BAgCEBQ&biw=1047&bih=541&dpr=2.4) to search.)
As best I can see, this is a real parallel to the nationwide shock and mourning felt in Britain after Princess Diana's death in August 1997. What happened is a huge thing, and a colossal Ukrainian miscalculation, that will do nothing but bring the Russian people even closer together together in focused determination to see justice done.
Here's one live video, If I lived in Moscow, I would be there. :flower:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14JvIDT3BjM
Tintin
23rd August 2022, 13:08
Source: http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/letters/69196
Letter of Condolence from Vladimir Putin
A.G. Dugin, N.V. Melentyeva
August 22, 2022 16:05
Dear Alexander Gelevich and Natalia Viktorovna,
Please accept our sincere condolences and words of support in connection with the most difficult, irreparable loss that has befallen you.
A vile, cruel crime ended the life of Daria Dugina - a bright, talented person with a real Russian heart - kind, loving, sympathetic and open. A journalist, scientist, philosopher, war correspondent, she honestly served the people, the Fatherland, she proved by deed what it means to be a patriot of Russia.
The memory of Daria Dugina will forever be preserved by relatives and friends, her like-minded people and associates.
Strength and courage to you in this mournful hour.
Vladimir Putin
Ravenlocke
23rd August 2022, 15:30
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1562077094556884993
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Ravenlocke
23rd August 2022, 19:09
https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1562110801405743104
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1562059128725544962
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Bill Ryan
24th August 2022, 01:50
A disquieting thought about an incident that has not happened yet. (And, we all hope, maybe it won't.)
Natalia Vovk, the only current suspect for Daria's murder, wanted in Russia, but not yet proven guilty of any crime in a court of law, is reported to be in Estonia. That's an EU country.
Russia will formally apply for her extradition so that she can stand trial for murder in Moscow. The EU by law then has to respond.
There's the almost unthinkable but theoretical possibility that the EU may refuse to extradite her, or delay the action with technicalities for months or years. I'd not put that beyond the EU authorities, who are already [almost] equating Putin with Hitler.
If that happens, not only would that be appalling to witness, but it would seal the fate of the EU ever being able to resume reasonable diplomatic relations with Russia for at least a generation.
But... this hasn't happened yet. Russian lawyers will be preparing their extradition request right now. We'll learn the flavor of the EU's response pretty soon. It is to be hoped that reasonable, legally sound, wise, and ethically grounded heads will prevail.
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Spiral
24th August 2022, 06:17
A disquieting thought about an incident that has not happened yet. (And, we all hope, maybe it won't.)
Natalia Vovk, the only current suspect for Daria's murder, wanted in Russia, but not yet proven guilty of any crime in a court of law, is reported to be in Estonia. That's an EU country.
Russia will formally apply for her extradition so that she can stand trial for murder in Moscow. The EU by law then has to respond.
There's the almost unthinkable but theoretical possibility that the EU may refuse to extradite her, or delay the action with technicalities for months or years. I'd not put that beyond the EU authorities, who are already [almost] equating Putin with Hitler.
If that happens, not only would that be appalling to witness, but it would seal the fate of the EU ever being able to resume reasonable diplomatic relations with Russia for at least a generation.
But... this hasn't happened yet. Russian lawyers will be preparing their extradition request right now. We'll learn the flavor of the EU's response pretty soon. It is to be hoped that reasonable, legally sound, wise, and ethically grounded heads will prevail.
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If Russia declares the Ukraine to be a terrorist state then all those countries that supply arms etc to it are also implicated....
That has massive implications, like turning the gas off to Germany etc etc.
Bill Ryan
24th August 2022, 12:49
A disquieting thought about an incident that has not happened yet. (And, we all hope, maybe it won't.)
Natalia Vovk, the only current suspect for Daria's murder, wanted in Russia, but not yet proven guilty of any crime in a court of law, is reported to be in Estonia. That's an EU country.
Russia will formally apply for her extradition so that she can stand trial for murder in Moscow. The EU by law then has to respond.
There's the almost unthinkable but theoretical possibility that the EU may refuse to extradite her, or delay the action with technicalities for months or years. I'd not put that beyond the EU authorities, who are already [almost] equating Putin with Hitler.
If that happens, not only would that be appalling to witness, but it would seal the fate of the EU ever being able to resume reasonable diplomatic relations with Russia for at least a generation.
But... this hasn't happened yet. Russian lawyers will be preparing their extradition request right now. We'll learn the flavor of the EU's response pretty soon. It is to be hoped that reasonable, legally sound, wise, and ethically grounded heads will prevail.
:flower:It seems I'm in good company. Alexander Mercouris, starting at 29:14 in this new video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weysVXpHs50), though with characteristic carefully worded caution, states his opinion as a lawyer with a deep understanding of geopolitics that the chances of the EU extraditing Vovk (who it seems may now be in Austria), are precisely zero.
9ideon
24th August 2022, 13:56
Pope condemns terror attack on Darya Dugina, while psycho's put Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) on UA hit list (Clown World has outdone itself now).
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Bill Ryan
24th August 2022, 14:24
Just published on the blog of The Saker. :flower:
This is very long, but it's a terrific piece, of spcial interest to those who know a little European history..
http://thesaker.is/in-memoriam-daria-dugina-a-must-read
In Memoriam: Daria Dugina
By Batiushka
The news of the Western-sponsored terrorist murder of Alexander Dugin’s daughter, Daria, has shocked us all. Of course, in one sense it is no different from all the other brutal murders carried out by drone by the Obama regime, or the CIA’s disposal of countless human-beings under their puppet regimes from the Philippines to Vietnam, from Italy to Latin America, from Greece to Africa, and in many other countries over the last three generations. Nevertheless, it concerns me more personally, as I know her father.
I first met the Russian Eurasianist philosopher Alexander Dugin in London in 2005. He and I were two of the four speakers at an International Conference on the European Tradition. My approach was spiritual and so politically neutral, his approach was that of a right-wing academic. But regardless of that, we were heading in the same direction and, all the more as I was the only Orthodox priest present, we sympathised. I was able to speak to him between talks and we had a photograph taken together.
Alexander went on to become quite well-known on the academic and political philosophy circuits internationally. His influence on President Putin has been much exaggerated by the ignorant and hate-filled Western media which has decided (or rather been ordered) to cast him as ‘Putin’s adviser’, but that is another story. In fact, Alexander was a theoretician. However, as such his books, articles and talks were always stimulating and thought-provoking and will continue to be so.
It is my hope and prayer that the sacrifice of his daughter, Daria, which leaves him heart-broken, as it would any father, will not make him bitter. Rather it will inspire him to purify and refine his thought further, so that his influence through her will be ever greater. Below I attach the talk I gave that day, seventeen eventful years ago. I dedicate it to Daria.
Holy Europe and Anti-Europe
If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand be forgotten
Psalm 136, 6
Foreword
Last November I was invited to come and speak to you about Europe. My viewpoint is perhaps an original one for most of you, since it has an Orthodox Christian perspective. In the Orthodox Church we have a very different understanding of the Trinitarian God, and therefore of life, from that found in the Catholic/Protestant religion. I hope that this will become apparent to you in the course of this talk.
I have lived all over Europe and have travelled in many other parts of Europe and worked with dozens of European nationalities. I have been deeply drawn to many places in Europe, some well-known, others very obscure. I have very good friends in many European countries. So I have learned to have compassion for others, and try and look at the world from different standpoints. The following is a viewpoint which expresses the underlying unity of Europe, but which is also respectful of the diversity of the national traditions of European peoples. I hope that it will be of interest to you.
Introduction: Cynicism and Belief
Great nations are born in real belief and enthusiasm. They die in unbelief and cynicism.
Alfred Noyes, 1937
So wrote the English Catholic poet Alfred Noyes nearly seventy years ago. Perhaps we may also say, paraphrasing his words: ‘Great civilizations are born in real belief and enthusiasm. They die in unbelief and cynicism’. These words, sadly, may seem strangely apt in relation to modern Europe, which does appear to be drowning in unbelief and cynicism.
In today’s decadent European context it may therefore seem peculiar to use the words ‘Holy’ and ‘Europe’ together. However, if we can speak of ‘Political Europe’, ‘Economic Europe’ or ‘Social Europe’, then we should also be able to speak of ‘Holy Europe’.
Moreover, it is our duty to speak of this, for it is the belief of the Church that if the European house does not first have a holy foundation, if it is built not on rock, but on sand, then it will possess no lasting moral or cultural values, it will be flooded and blown away, and great will be the fall of it.
It is our belief that the cause of moral and cultural decadence is always in spiritual decadence. It is our belief that a humanity deprived of spiritual values is a humanity doomed to falter and fail in a cultural and moral quagmire. Not believing in God, we no longer believe in ourselves.
The result is the purposeless but uniform futility that we see around us in today’s throwaway culture, with its throwaway remarks, disposable goods, junk food, junk music, junk TV, junk culture, junk existence. This is the situation today, not so much of Europe, but of Anti-Europe. How has this Anti-Europe come into being and how can we return to a Europe of spiritual culture and moral dignity, a Europe of nobility and indeed holiness?
Europe and Jerusalem
We have forgotten Jerusalem and the land where He was born
Christmas 1912, J.E. Flecker
In any consideration of Europe and the Christian understanding of the word holiness, we must first point out that Christianity came down from heaven and became incarnate not in Europe, but in Asia. In the fourth century this was the whole sense of planting the capital of the Roman Christian Empire on the Bosphorus. At the gates of Europe and Asia, New Rome, or Constantinople as it came to be called, looked to unite both East and West, as symbolized by the emblem of the double-headed eagle.
Although Christians in Asia, including in the Middle East, were eventually to become a minority in a sea of Islam, the source of what some might call ‘the European Faith’ is not in Europe, but in Asia, or more precisely in Jerusalem. It does not matter whether it was the Russian Patriarch, Nikon (1605-1681), who in the seventeenth century built to the south of Moscow, a complex of buildings imitating the sacred geography of Jerusalem, which he called ‘New Jerusalem’.
It does not matter whether it was the English visionary, William Blake (1757-1827), who wrote that he would not cease from mental fight, till we had ‘built Jerusalem in England’s green and pleasant land’. It has always been to Jerusalem that Europeans, East and West, have looked for inspiration as the source of holiness. And every step that Europe has taken away from its roots in Jerusalem has always been a step away from Christ. Jerusalem is at the roots of Europe’s Faith and Europe’s Holiness.
Indeed, when the region around Jerusalem where Christ lived was given the name ‘the Holy Land’, Europeans imitated it. Thus, like the Holy Land, the largest country in Europe, Russia, was also given the title ‘Holy’ and called Holy Russia. Elsewhere there is the Holy Mountain (Mt Athos), and in England, Scotland and Wales there are Holy Islands. As for Ireland, it was once known as ‘The Island of the Saints’.
And all European countries, from Armenia to Iceland, Lapland to Portugal via Liechtenstein and all points inbetween, have adopted Patron Saints, be it St Gregory or St Columba, St Tryphon or St George and St Theodul, St Andrew or St Patrick, St Modest or St Olaf, St Denis or St Sava, St James or St David.
Furthermore, two European countries and thousands upon thousands of settlements in Europe, have taken their names from those who have won holiness and so become local Patrons. There are Georgia and San Marino, named after St George and St Marinus, and then countless cities, towns, villages, islands, mountains and lakes.
To name but a few: St Petersburg in Russia and the same dedication of St Peter Port in Guernsey, St Andrew’s in Scotland and the same dedication of Szentendre in Hungary, the island of São Miguel in the Azores and the same dedications of Archangelsk in the far north of Russia, Monte San Angelo in Italy and Mont St Michel in Normandy, Santiago de Compostela (St James) in Galicia and San Sebastián (St Sebastian) in the Basque Country, Sankt Gallen in Switzerland and Sankt Johann in Austria, Saint Nazaire in France and the island of Aghia Marina in the Dodecanese, Sviatogorsk in the Ukraine and St Alban’s in England, St Agnes in the Isles of Scilly and Santa Cruz, the Holy Cross, in the Canaries.
Another tiny European country, Monaco, is named after the monks who once dwelt there, and there are hundreds of towns named after the same monks and nuns who sought and brought holiness, from München, Mönchengladbach and Münster in Germany, to Monastir in Macedonia. There are countless French towns including the word Moutiers and some thirty-two English minster-towns from Axminster to Westminster.
As regards the word ‘church’ and all its equivalents, we could start with Christchurch in the south of England, go to innumerable Llan names in Wales, to Kirkwall in the Orkneys, from there to Dunkirk, the church on the dunes, in northern France, pass on to Belaya Tserkov to the south of Kiev and then back to Trinité sur Mer in Brittany, to cite just a few examples.
Other sites and towns are famous simply as holy places, be it Rome, Echmiadzin in Armenia, Trondheim in Norway, Tinos in Greece, Iasi in Romania, Roskilde in Denmark, Czestochowa in Poland, St Paul’s Bay in Malta, Zhirovitsy in Belarus, Braga in Portugal, Mtskheta in Georgia, Echternach in Luxembourg, Diveyevo in Russia, Montserrat in Catalonia, Rila in Bulgaria, Skellig Michael in Ireland, Pochaiev in the Ukraine, Iona in Scotland, Piukhtitsa in Estonia, Utrecht in Holland, Ochrid in Macedonia, the shrine of the Virgin of Meritxell in Andorra, Pec in Serbia, Birka in Sweden, Marianka in Slovakia, Valaamo in Finland, Fulda in Germany, Velehrad in Moravia, Einsiedeln in Switzerland, or Canterbury in England.
Despite these historic facts, there are those who, to the amazement of men and angels alike, would deny the Christian basis of Europe. Indeed they have just drawn up a Constitution for the atheist Europe of their dreams, and our nightmares. Such people would cut Europe off from its spiritual roots, they would confirm the Anti-Europe.
Europe and Anti-Europe
The lamps are going out all over Europe; we shall not see them lit again in our lifetime.
Lord Grey, 3 August 1914
In speaking of an Anti-European spirit we may first think of the insular nationalism of the Irish and the Icelanders, of the Maltese and the Corsicans, of the Cypriots and the Sicilians, of the Sardinians and the English, of the Faeroese and the Shetlanders. Their insularity comes from living on islands. However, continental Europeans can also be insular.
Those who live in the mountains have also fought their tribal battles, whether in the Swiss valleys, the mountains of Armenia and Georgia, the Carpathians of Slovakia, the glens of the Scottish clans or in the Balkans, from Bosnia to Croatia, Albania to Macedonia, Serbia to Montenegro, Romania to Bulgaria.
However, it is not only island and mountain peoples who can be insular and nationalistic. The French, for instance, have fought wars to preserve the geometric integrity of ‘L’Hexagone’, ensuring ‘insular’ borders, the Pyrenees, the Alps, the Rhine, the Vosges, the Ardennes.
Where there was no natural border, nations constructed the buffer-state of Belgium between France and emerging Germany. Other European countries have been constantly overrun, because they had no natural borders, through lack of insularity, as one might say. The flat plains of Hungary, the Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, provide no protection.
In the modern context, we can also see the same insularity, the same nationalist reluctance to accept others. Western European politicians are prone to say the word ‘Europe’, and in fact mean their own country. ‘La France forte dans une Europe forte’, ‘A strong France in a strong Europe’, was the war cry of French President Jacques Chirac only a few years ago.
Many another European politician has made it clear down the years that when they spoke of Europe, in fact they often meant their own selfish interests. Another example: wherever you travel in the European Union, you will see signs with the yellow ring of EU stars, in the centre of which you will find a GB or D or I or SU, or whatever it may be. This is not a European identity, this is a national identity under siege.
Thus, although nationalist insularity can embody the spirit of Anti-Europe, there is also another sort of Anti-European insularity. In order to exercise close control and create the illusion of a centrally united Europe, many politicians speak of ‘Europe’, when in fact they mean the European Union. In fact, this so-called ‘Union’ is not Europe, but merely an insular Europe.
It is merely the Western corner of Europe, with some significant gaps – Norway and Switzerland, for example, which, for many, are the most European countries of all. And in this so-called European Union there are the gaps of the two largest countries in Europe: Russia and the Ukraine, and some fifteen other countries and peoples.
There is nothing new in this, for such a European Union was attempted even towards the end of the First Millennium. As the great French medieval historian, Jacques Le Goff, has written of the first attempted European Union, that of the Carolingian Empire: ‘Of all previous attempts to unite Europe, this was the first example of a perverted Europe…it was the first failure of all the attempts to build a Europe dominated by one people or one empire.
The Europe of Charles V, that of Napoleon and that of Hitler, were in fact anti-Europes’. (In ‘Was Europe born in the Middle Ages’, p.47 in the French edition of the collection ‘Faire l’Europe’, Seuil, 2003). It is our belief that the present version of the European Union is just such another Anti-Europe. The very word ‘Union’ symbolises this fact, for any centrally-imposed Union, not freely-chosen, inevitably crushes the diversity of its peoples.
True, strides have recently been made to incorporate several ‘missing’ parts of Europe into the European Union. Here I am thinking of the addition of ten more countries to the EU on 1 May 2004. However, these new members have not yet been absorbed into the Brussels machine and perhaps, thank God, never will be.
The accession of these ten new members has revealed an obscure but highly symbolic problem; it has proved impossible to find a single person out of 450 million who can interpret or translate from Finnish to Maltese and vice versa. Other permutations, such as Slovak to Danish, Estonian to Greek, Lithuanian to Hungarian, Dutch to Latvian, Slovene to Spanish and vice versa, have also proved very problematic. This problem symbolises the diversity within even the present European Union and the impossibility of actually imposing the Brussels centralist nightmare on such a diverse and obstinately real Europe.
Thus, in our context, when we speak of Anti-Europe, we mean both the nationalist refusal to accept the underlying unity of Europe, and also the internationalist refusal to accept its diversity. By Anti-Europe we mean that spirit which cuts Europeans off from the only thing that Europe really has in common, Jerusalem, Europe’s Christian roots, Europe’s Holiness, and that also cuts Europeans off from other Europeans. For in cutting themselves off from God, Europeans cut themselves off from their neighbours and so become tribal:
In failing to love God, Europe fails to observe the first commandment of the Gospel.
In failing to love its neighbour as itself, Europe fails to observe the second commandment of the Gospel. And he who fails to love his neighbour as himself, automatically begins to hate himself.
And so Europe takes the path of suicide. Hatred of God leads to hatred of man; hatred of man leads to hatred of self.
This is the path that Anti-Europe has taken again and again, from the Deicidal Crusades and Inquisitions of the Middle Ages, to the Fratricidal ‘Wars of Religion’ of the Reformation, to the Suicidal Wars of 1914 and 1939.
After committing tribal genocide against its own European peoples in the first half of the twentieth century, Anti-Europe came directly to its post-1945 reaction. This was the temptation of centralising, creating the cosmopolitan uniformity of the European Union. As a result, since 1945 a cultural suicide has been taking place in Europe. Mafia-like Eurocrats, encouraged by the United States, have tried to impose uniformity on all, crushing European national identities by imposing secularism.
This is not the underlying unity of Europe’s roots in Jerusalem, but a false unity, the pseudo-unity of secular Brussels, of Anti-Europe. From the Christian standpoint, such ‘unity’, top-down centralisation, is no more a solution to Europe’s problems than the warring nationalisms which marred so much of Europe’s history in the Second Millennium.
In contrast, the original Christian model of international relations has never been aggressively nationalistic. Neither has it ever been soullessly cosmopolitan and internationalistic. The original Christian model has always been that of Trinitarian unity in diversity, Community, Commonwealth, Confederation. What hope is there for the victory of such a model today?
Europe and Interpatriotism
You are seeking and you shall find,
Not in the way you hope, not in the way foreseen.
A King’s Daughter, John Masefield
It is the recent accession of ten new members to the EU, with very diverse, but very European, histories, cultures and languages, which gives us hope. Their EU membership, together with the future potential membership of other European countries, may at last begin to break down the secular Anti-Europe.
New members could destroy Anti-Europe’s ignorant and bigoted cosmopolitanism and its anti-religious ‘political correctness’, imported from post-Christian Puritan America, by creating a new awareness of real European identity. Their membership may at last put paid to the absurd ‘one size fits all’ standardisation and soul-destroying egalitarianism of the present European Union.
Above all, their membership could lead to a new awareness of the underlying stratum of what all European countries really have in common: Europe’s roots in the Faith from Jerusalem. It is those roots which reveal to us neither belligerent nationalism, nor soulless internationalism or Americanisation and Zionisation, which is now camouflaged under the name of ‘Globalisation’.
Those roots reveal to the ignorant and bigoted a balance between the national and the international, a replacement for both nationalism and globalisation. I would call this replacement – Interpatriotism; the love not only of one’s own homeland, patriotism, but the love of the homelands of others too.
Bez Boga, ne do poroga. The Russian proverb can be translated freely as ‘No God, no entry’. It neatly illustrates opposition to the present-day EU among all who belong to the European Spiritual Tradition. It neatly illustrates what all European Christians have in common, in spite of and because of, their diversity. There are certain orthodox principles on which all who belong to the European Spiritual Tradition can agree. This is in our opposition to Godless secularism, the spirit of ‘this world’, to which we say ‘No entry’.
We saw this in October 2004 with the affair of Rocco Buttiglione, who was not allowed to express Christian sense, the sort of common sense that fifty years ago every five-year-old European child could express. At the end of 2004, personalities as diverse as Pope John Paul II and Archbishop Christodoulos of Athens, were at one in declaring that Buttiglione had been persecuted for his Faith, the once common Faith of Europe.
On 19 November 2004 Cardinal Josef Ratzinger spoke of how the forces of secularism in Europe, the so-called ‘liberal consensus’, have now become aggressive persecutors of European Christendom. Like many others, we had been saying it for years before him.
There are such turning-points in European history, moments of truth, when questions of principle arise. Then we have to say where we stand, in black and white. And the united spiritual forces of Europe, united as they were for most of the First Millennium, the living Faith of Europe, can bring strength.
Here I would like to give a few examples from that Europe of the First Millennium, a Europe united in diversity, before the Apostasy, betrayals and tragedies, before the Deicide, Fratricide and Suicide, which rapidly took form in the Second Millennium. For most of the First Millennium, called by many ‘The Age of Faith’, although divided and diverse, there was also unity, a spiritual unity which gave Europe the strength to absorb and baptize barbarian hordes and produce a new Europe. Here are a few names from that epoch, who illustrate true internationalism, or as I have called it – Interpatriotism:
St Irenaeus of Lyon was a Greek from Asia Minor. He was a disciple of St Polycarp, who had been a disciple of St John the Evangelist, ‘the disciple whom Christ loved’. A Church Father, he was Bishop of Lyon in Gaul, where he was martyred for the Faith at the beginning of the third century.
St Chrysolius was an Armenian who lived in the fourth century. Under persecution from the Persians, he left his homeland, went to what is now Belgium, and evangelised the area. He was martyred in Flanders and is still venerated in Bruges.
St Martin of Tours was born in the fourth century in what is now Szombathely in Hungary. He was educated in Pavia in Italy and enrolled in the Imperial cavalry. Posted to Gaul, he left the army after the famous incident in Amiens. He was to become the Bishop of Tours and one of the greatest saints of Christendom, a patron of the Loire Valley, of hundreds of French villages and towns and his name became one of the most common French, and indeed European, Christian names and surnames.
St John Cassian was born in the Dobrudja in what is now Romania. He became a monk in Egypt and in the fifth century established a monastery near Marseille in the south of France, becoming one of the great monastic Fathers of Christendom.
St Martin of Braga lived in the sixth century. Born in what is now Hungary, he became a monk in Palestine, then went to Galicia, in what is now Portugal. He is one of the greatest figures of the Iberian Peninsula and played an important role in converting pagans, like his namesake in Gaul.
He made his see of Braga into the first spiritual centre for all north-west Iberia. Indeed, in Portuguese, Braga, ‘the Rome of Portugal’, has become proverbial: ‘tao velho como o sede de Braga’, ‘as old as the see of Braga’, means in English, ‘as old as the hills’.
St Theodore of Tarsus lived in the seventh century in Asia Minor, a hundred miles from the coast of Cyprus. In middle age he left for Rome and there played an important role in uniting East and West at a time of controversy. Then he was appointed the first Greek Archbishop of Canterbury. Here he played a fundamental part in uniting the strands of Irish and Roman Christianity in England, approving both as complementary to one another.
St Boniface was born in Devon in the south-west of England. In the eighth century he went to the German Lands and became a great missionary Archbishop, reforming much of the Christianity of north-western Europe. Supported by three Popes, including the Greek Pope St Zacharias, this Englishman, known as the Apostle of Germany, was martyred in Frisia in Holland in 754.
St George of Córdoba was born in Bethlehem in the ninth century and became a monk at St Sabbas Monastery outside Jerusalem. Fluent in Greek, Arabic and Latin, he then travelled via North Africa to Córdoba in Spain where he preached the Faith, finally being martyred with Spanish brothers and sisters by the Muslims.
St Wenceslas, or Václav, was Duke of the Czech Lands in the tenth century. He was martyred there in intrigues and is venerated in St Vitus Cathedral in Prague to this day, as the Patron-Saint of the Czech Lands.
St Olav was King of Sweden in the mid-tenth century. He and his family were baptized by the English missionary St Sigfrid. His daughter married into the Russian royal house, lived mainly in Novgorod, had twelve children, one of whom is venerated as a saint. In her widowhood, she became a nun, taking the name Anna and is herself honoured as a saint.
St Gregory of Burtscheid was a Greek monk from Calabria who, fleeing from the Muslims, met Emperor Otto III in Rome. At the latter’s invitation, Gregory went north and founded a monastery just outside Aachen where he was a holy Abbot, reposing in 996.
St Simeon of Padolirone was an Armenian pilgrim. Having visited Jerusalem, then Rome, Compostela in Spain and Tours in France, he settled at a monastery outside Padua in Italy, where he was renowned as a wonder-worker, reposing in 1016.
St Simeon of Trier was a Greek, born in Syracuse, educated in Constantinople, and who then lived as a hermit by the River Jordan, in Bethlehem and on Mt Sinai. Sent by his Abbot to Normandy to collect alms, he eventually settled in Trier in Germany and lived there as a much-venerated hermit. He was canonized seven years after his repose, which came in 1035.
Another Anna of the eleventh century, this time of Kiev, married Henri I of France. She played a vital role in spreading Christian values, like many other women of the First Millennium before her. As examples, there are St Clotilde in Gaul, the Greek Theodosia and also Ingonde in Spain, the Bavarian Theodelinda in Lombardy, the French Bertha in England, the English St Bathilde in France, the Czechs, St Ludmila in Czechia and Dubrava in Poland, the Swedish St Helga, or Olga, in Kiev, the Greek Empress Theophano in Germany.
In Anna’s eleventh century Kiev, they were to welcome Christians such as Thorwald of Iceland and Gytha of Winchester. Both Kiev and Winchester were famed for their standards of civilization, running water, drains, pavements, education.
Here are but a few examples of the concourse or coming together, of Interpatriotic Europe in the First Millennium, before the advent of both warring nationalism and soulless internationalism in the Second Millennium. In the First Millennium, we find the roots of Europe, we find Holy Europe.
Conclusion: Roots and Routes
Die Weltgechichte is das Weltgericht
The history of the world is the judgement of the world
Friedrich von Schiller
Europe – you forgot holiness, and so you began a hundred wars of crusade and conquest over a thousand years.
Europe – you silenced your conscience, and so you invented the machine-gun and saturation bombing.
Europe – you stifled the voice of God, and so you invented the concentration camp and the Atom Bomb.
Europe – you forsook your roots in Jerusalem, and so you invented Anti-Europe.
I would paraphrase the most terrible, above-quoted words of Friedrich von Schiller, as he spoke in Jena in 1789: Die Europageschichte ist das Europagericht: The history of Europe is the judgement of Europe. The blood-soaked deeds of Anti-Europe are Europe’s judgement, but they are only part of Europe’s judgement. There is another Europe too.
As I said at the beginning of this talk, the conjunction of the words ‘Holy’ and ‘Europe’ may seem strange, as though words from two different planets had collided, but I tell you, and have been telling you all this afternoon, that it was not always so. A voice from the past should be jarring on the memory of today’s Anti-Europe.
It is my belief that in seeking common European roots, or origins, we shall find routes, or paths, out of the present European crisis towards what I have called an ‘Interpatriotic Europe’, summed up so harmoniously in the French phrase ‘l’Europe des Patries’. It is in our common spiritual origins that we shall find our common spiritual opportunities. It is in our common spiritual identity that we shall find our common spiritual freedom.
But if Europe denies her common roots, her common spiritual origins in Jerusalem, then, as even the warlike Churchill said of earlier twentieth-century Europe: ‘…the whole world…will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age, made more sinister and perhaps more protracted by the lights of perverted science’.
In recent years, I have heard certain naive people declaring that ‘the barbarians are at the gates’. They are not at the gates and have not been for a very long time. The barbarians entered long ago and began their long task of expelling Wisdom from the City. Ever since the barbarians have been parading in the City, destroying the walls and opening the gates wide, whenever new forms of barbarianism appeared.
Nevertheless, I would end this talk with words of optimism, inherent to all Christians, who know that the last words in history will be Christ’s. As the Emperor Julian the Apostate is reputed to have said on his death-bed, some sixteen hundred years ago: Thou hast conquered, O Galilean…
Bill Ryan
24th August 2022, 18:35
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1562460904100286465
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Violet3
25th August 2022, 04:21
A sweeping summary, very interesting and moving. And of course it is not just Europe that has lost its spiritual roots amid "blood soaked deeds" and many other more banal modern atrocities.
Ravenlocke
29th August 2022, 15:20
https://www.rt.com/russia/561707-dugina-murder-second-suspect/
Second suspect identified in Dugina assassination
Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has identified a Ukrainian man, named Bogdan Tsiganenko, as an accomplice in the plot to murder Russian journalist and political activist Darya Dugina.
The daughter of the well-known philosopher and ‘Eurasia’ advocate Aleksandr Dugin, was killed in a Moscow car bombing earlier this month.
Tsiganenko allegedly helped the primary suspect, Natalya Vovk, obtain a fake Kazakhstani passport and assemble an improvised explosive device, which she later used in the crime, according to the statement.
The suspected 42-year-old bombmaker entered Russia from Estonia in late June and left a day before the bomb attack on August 20, the FSB said on Monday. The IED was made at a rented garage, the agency added. The FSB believes that the two acted together as members of a “Ukrainian sabotage-terrorist group.”
The agency released images and footage said to show Tsiganenko traveling with Vovk in her car, receiving falsified car plates for the vehicle, and entering and leaving Russia.
The statement also provided new details about the assassination itself. The FSB released footage showing Vovk surveilling Dugina at a parking lot of the family festival where she presumably planted the bomb. The Ukrainian woman followed her target in her car and set off the explosion, which killed Dugina on the spot, according to the FSB.
READ MORE: Dugin names target of attack that killed his daughter
Dugina was a vocal critic of the government in Kiev and a supporter of Russia’s military action in Ukraine. She was also the daughter of controversial philosopher Aleksandr Dugin, who Western media has long described as a secret influencer of Russian foreign policy.
After Vovk was identified as the primary suspect in the case, Russia accused Ukraine of masterminding the assassination. Kiev has denied any involvement.
Vovk managed to leave Russia after killing Dugina, crossing into Estonia, according to the FSB.
Bill Ryan
31st August 2022, 12:48
A very interesting (and very fiercely worded) opinion piece and personal tribute to Daria. The auto-translate isn't perfect, but it's absolutely good enough to read and understand the entire article very clearly.
https://mario--moretti-livejournal-com.translate.goog/320759.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
Daria Dugina fought the semantic front of the NWO
Daria Dugina is the first person who died during the Special Military Operation, whom I personally knew. Daria, like her smartest father, philosopher Alexander Gelievich Dugin, did what our official propagandists, and even more so the authorities themselves, are incapable of doing - she revealed the historiosophical, cultural, metaphysical meanings of the NWO. Enemies hunted for her and Dugin. They wanted to kill both of them at once. But it turned out that Daria died in front of her father.
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/mario_moretti/13406191/24706/24706_800.jpg
Daria was a fighter on the informational and semantic front of the NWO, and a vile but intelligent enemy is fighting with us. Ukrainians are performers. Pawns. Our true enemy is much more serious and sophisticated. And he understands that, first of all, it is necessary to hit on the meanings and on those who develop them.
Daria died at the age of 29. I found out about her when she was only three years old. From August to December 1995, I was a confidant of the candidate for the State Duma, Alexander Gelievich Dugin, at that time the ideologist of the National Bolshevik Party (banned in the Russian Federation), and supervised the field work of his campaign headquarters. It cannot be said that we talked a lot with each other about children, but I knew that Dugin had a son and a little daughter, Dasha, and he knew that I had two sons.
I met Dasha in Paris in November 2015. As a correspondent for the Tsargrad channel, she covered how the French capital lives after the terrorist attacks of the Islamists, and I came to Paris for a conference of right-wing anti-globalists. It was a feast of Beaujolais. And my Parisian and Russian friends and I celebrated it in a restaurant of Marine Le Pen party activists somewhere near the church of Saint-Etienne-du-Mont (fifth arrondissement).
Oleksandr Gelievich could not have joined us, since in 2014 the European Union included him in the sanctions lists because, being a media person, a well-known intellectual, he sided with the Russian uprising in the south-east of Ukraine.
Dasha was fluent in French. I noticed a long time ago that people who know French well are, to one degree or another, snobs, to one degree or another they play aristocrats. There was not an ounce of snobbery in Dasha. Open, cheerful, smart girl. We recalled common acquaintances, funny stories associated with them. And in general - the party was noisy.
After the terrorist attacks of the Islamists, Parisians visited cafes and restaurants even more actively than before to show that terrorists cannot intimidate them. In the Russian view, this reaction to terrorism is amusing. But in France, almost all important issues are decided in pubs. So we stayed in the tavern until night. My friend and I were staying in the 18th arrondissement and we almost missed the last subway train…
Then we repeatedly corresponded with Dasha. I followed her reports, presentations, lectures. And she always responded to my messages as if she was looking forward to them. But I could have known. I know quite a few people who, having achieved little success, little fame, "turned on the snob." Dasha was alien to such plebeians.
The last time we corresponded was three days before her death. She praised my text about St. Petersburg as a foothold of old Europe and expressed her desire to write an article for our publication about something complicated. For the weekend, I went to the Karelian Isthmus, to a forest village, where mobile communications do not penetrate, and even more so the Internet.
More precisely, in order to call or read messages, you have to go to a certain place on the shore of the lake, where communication and network make their way in the most mystical way. Arriving there and reading the message about the death of Daria, I didn't believe it at first. I experienced shock. And then I realized: there is nothing to be surprised. In war as in war.
Daria was a fighter on the informational and semantic front of the NWO, and a vile but intelligent enemy is fighting with us. Ukrainians are performers. Pawns. Our true enemy is much more serious and sophisticated. And he understands that, first of all, it is necessary to hit on the meanings and on those who develop them. For a senseless battle is sure to be lost. And Dasha and her father, Alexander Gelievich Dugin, worked out the meanings of the NWO. Russian meanings.
To those who fought, my reflections will probably seem sentimental. But still. Here I recall our communication with Daria in Paris in November 2015. No one knows what is written in his family. So the 23-year-old talented Dasha did not know then that she had only seven years left to live. She didn't make it to her 30s.
At the end of 1995, the 33-year-old candidate for the State Duma, the young philosopher Alexander Dugin, of course, did not know that he would have to endure the most terrible human grief - the death of his own child. He did not know about it, and going to the festival "Tradition", after which the terrorists killed Dasha. Dasha burned down before the eyes of Alexander Gelevich. Can you imagine a worse tragedy?
The reaction of Ukrainians to the murder of Dugina was predictable. After the “exploded air conditioner”, “dead larvae of separatists” (they are talking about the murdered children of Donbass), “fried from Colorados” and other “creative”, it would be naive to expect a noble reaction from that side.
“In Ukraine, sales of champagne broke the New Year's record” - this is how Ukrainian political strategist Vladimir Petrov responded to the death of Daria Dugina . Where will this Petrov celebrate the New Year? And will he meet him at all? He's sure he will. Me not. I'm not sure that this Petrov will be at all.
In Ukraine, they like to scoff at Russian tragedies, and then they are surprised, but why should they? But for this: for blowing up air conditioners, for the dead larvae of Donbass, for a barbecue from the separatists, for the “eco gasped”. All energies are interconnected. Death is not a reason to be naughty, even if it is the death of an enemy. Death takes revenge for a frivolous attitude towards itself.
But no one explains this to Ukrainians and will not explain it. There are many political strategists in Ukraine, but no thinkers. Does Ukraine have its own Dugin? No. Do you have your own Daria Dugina? No. And they can't be. And, please, do not remember the historian Mikhail Grushevsky.
Who in Ukraine comprehends the place of this country in the present and in the future? Looking for the metaphysical meanings of her existence? Nobody. Not Arestovich, the right word. And this intellectual impotence of Ukrainian nationalism is also a punishment. Punishment for boorish arrogance, for stupid arrogance. The people who agreed to glorify the sadist and psychopath - we are talking about Stepan Bandera, could not help but go crazy in the end.
As for our "liberal opposition", everything has been clear with it for a long time. Fresh illustration - network "joke" Lucy Stein (That's right - Lucy). A photo where Alexander Dugin holds his head with both hands, looking at a flaming car in which his daughter's body is burning, she signed - "Has anyone seen my girl?" This Lucy participated in the actions of Pussy Riot, and then she was even elected a municipal deputy in the Basmanny district of Moscow.
Even before the start of the SMO, she fled Russia because of problems with law enforcement agencies, apparently to Israel, from where she now comes from. According to liberals, anything can be ridiculed, because nothing is sacred. The publishers and cartoonists of the French magazine Charlie Hebdo, for example, are sure of this, for which they once paid dearly. For a joke on Dugin, Luce will also be billed. Will definitely come. I repeat once again: death is a very serious element, you can’t joke with it.
Unfortunately, I was personally acquainted with another person involved in the "Dasha Dugina case" - Ilya Ponomarev. Once he created the Left Front in Russia. As the son of a member of the Federation Council Larisa Ponomareva, he organized the G-8 anti-summit in St. Petersburg, and then became a member of the State Duma from A Just Russia. Then he, accused of embezzlement of the Skolkovo Foundation, fled to Ukraine.
In fact, Ponomarev claimed responsibility for the murder of Dasha, saying on Ukrainian television that the attempt on her was made by some "Russian partisans", to whom he provided "methodological assistance." It is clear that this is a bluff: Ponomarev is talking on the instructions of the SBU or one of the Western, most likely British, intelligence services.
But it’s also important how it scratches: a smug face, a smile, chuckles. And he, the scum and the bastard, will surely someday laugh to death. All of them, all these reptiles, will be avenged by life.
Frankie Pancakes
1st September 2022, 12:56
Here is another take on the assassination by Pepe Escobar.
food for thought.
The vile assassination of Darya Dugina, or terror at the gates of Moscow, is not really solved, Pepe Escobar writes.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/08/31/which-crime-syndicate-murdered-darya-dugina/
Bill Ryan
5th October 2022, 20:24
https://t.me/intelslava/38415
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Ravenlocke
6th October 2022, 19:34
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1578082917351391232
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Bill Ryan
17th May 2023, 11:27
Bumping this thread with this: :flower:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/63364
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Ravenlocke
28th May 2023, 14:00
Text:
In shadows deep, where sorrow lies,
A light flickers, though teardrops fill our eyes.
Your spirit, pure, forever shall reside,
In cherished memories, where love won’t hide.
Though pain consumes, and hearts may break,
Your essence lives on, like stars in the wake.
In whispered echoes of laughter’s embrace,
Your presence lingers, offering solace and grace.
With every dawn, hope will arise,
Guiding us through darkness, where faith lies.
In your memory, we’ll find strength anew,
To honor your light, forever true.
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1662816116983332866
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Ravenlocke
25th June 2023, 19:42
Text:
Today I felt in a vibrant way that Dasha was very close. Her subtle but firm presence helped me get through this monstrously difficult day. Everything that happened today concerned Dasha personally: she wrote about it in her diary, talked about it in lectures and interviews.
How does an exalted, purely military ethos relate to the state order? How is an emancipated existence reconciled with the strict Logos? When the synthesis between hero and empire breaks down, Dasha feels physical pain. Perhaps she continues to seek answers to these questions even in heaven and does not forget Russia, which she loved so much, and the people she loved.
https://twitter.com/Agdchan/status/1672710114065752068
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Kryztian
23rd October 2023, 14:59
CIA-backed Ukrainian spies behind Russian journalist’s murder – WaPo
The US spy agency has enabled assassinations by providing Kiev with training and capabilities, the newspaper reported
23 Oct, 2023 14:23
https://www.rt.com/russia/585598-dugina-murder-plot-cia/
The assassination of Russian journalist Darya Dugina was one of multiple killings carried out by the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) despite denials from Kiev, the Washington Post reported on Monday. The newspaper claimed that the CIA has played a key part in empowering the Ukrainian agency, as well as its military counterpart, the GUR.
The post interviewed dozens of Ukrainian and Western officials for an article which offered fresh claims about the murder of Dugina, who was killed by a car bomb just outside Moscow in August 2022. Newly reported allegations include the use of a secret compartment in a cat cage to smuggle parts of the bomb into Russia.
Darya Dugina’s father, Aleksandr Dugin, was allegedly the intended target of the Ukrainian plot, and the Post noted that both had been expected to travel in the car which was blown up. The murder was said to be on the “extreme” side of Kiev’s program of targeted assassinations, in which dozens of civilians have been killed for allegedly being Russian collaborators.
According to the Post, one Ukrainian security official described the killing of Dugina as “very cynical,” but claimed that dissenting voices are a minority in Kiev. Another official said the victim was “the daughter of the father of Russian propaganda,” and claimed that Kiev should promote the narrative that “punishment is imminent even for those who think they are untouchable.”
A philosopher and Russian nationalist, Aleksandr Dugin has been dubbed “the brain” of Russian President Vladimir Putin by some Western media. The Post used the moniker too, without explaining how it measured his supposed influence on Russian politics.
Sources told the newspaper that neither the SBU nor GUR proceeds with operations unless they have received clearance – “tacit or otherwise” – from Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky.
Much of the report was dedicated to the CIA’s investment of tens of millions of dollars in the Ukrainian special services. The US agency created an entirely new directorate in the SBU, while the GUR was reportedly rebuilt “from scratch” for American goals. A former US intelligence official who worked in Ukraine called the military agency “our little baby,” while Washington helped build a new GUR HQ and taught tradecraft to Ukrainian agents, the Post wrote.
The CIA is legally banned from participating in political assassination operations, and according to the Post, Ukraine keeps the US in the dark about any such plans.
Washington, however, was forewarned about the plot to damage the Crimean Bridge with a truck bomb in October last year, the newspaper claimed. The operation was hatched by the SBU and was allegedly designed to sacrifice the driver who unwittingly carried the deadly cargo. The bombing killed multiple civilians.
Ravenlocke
16th December 2023, 01:03
Text:
Today would have been Daria Platonova Dugina’s 31st birthday.
Unfortunately, today also marks 1 year, 3 months, and 25 days since Daria’s life was tragically cut short by an act of state-sponsored terrorism.
Fortunately, Daria's life philosophy is open to be discovered through her book Eschatological Optimism, brought to you in English by PRAV Publishing.
Celebrate life, understand death, and learn from thinkers who have come and given all before you by exploring Daria Platonova Dugina’s Eschatological Optimism, available in hardcover, paperback, and ebook editions from PRAV.
"In this book, we become witnesses to how painfully the battle against the swamps of the illusory freedom of the Great Mother Cybele is ongoing in contemporary philosophy, in the minds of modern people, youth, and in the soul of a young girl. We become witnesses to how philosophical attunement is first born, how spiritual turmoil and disappointments come to a head, and how painfully philosophical bearings of support are acquired. We notice how the light wings of a debuting philosopher grow, how thought cuts through chaos with concepts, how thought suffocates and comes to life again in extreme ascent, inevitably colliding with Deleuze’s 'line where reason and madness, life and death play with one another.'"
- From the Afterword, "Daria Dugina: Philosophy as Destiny" by Dr. Natalia Melentyeva (Daria's mother)
https://pravpublishing.com/product/eschatological-optimism/
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ExomatrixTV
30th April 2024, 15:10
Klaus Schwab (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum), Transgenderism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115313-There-s-the-Woke-and-the-In-The-Know), and A.I. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-) | Russian Philosopher Aleksandr Dugin (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Aleksandr%20Dugin):
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Aleksandr Dugin is the most famous political philosopher in Russia. His ideas are considered so dangerous the Ukrainian government murdered his daughter and Amazon won’t sell his books. We talked to him in Moscow.
Ravenlocke
18th August 2025, 00:21
🚨🇷🇺"The new memorial to Daria is not about the past, she does not belong to the past, her memory is a testament to the future of Russia!"
I spoke with Professor Alexander Dugin this past week regarding the installation of a memorial to his daughter Daria Dugina. Interview dropping in one weeks time!
Daria followed in her father's footsteps as a Journalist and Political Philosopher. Three years after her murder, her memory lives on as an inspiration to the new patriotic youth of Russia.
Listen to my exclusive interview where he describes the artistic design of the statue, it's meaning and his perspective on the current trajectory of Russian History. Thank you
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https://x.com/sogaardreed/status/1956937143479062621
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Ravenlocke
20th August 2025, 23:31
A monument to Darya Dugina was unveiled today in the Moscow region park "Zakharovo" on the third anniversary of her death.
Darya Dugina, the daughter of far-right philosopher Alexander Dugin, was killed in August 2022 when the car her father was supposed to be in exploded. Today, a monument made of Karelian gray granite and bronze was unveiled in her memory in Zakharovo park in the Odintsovsky district of the Moscow region.
The idea for the monument arose two years ago, and Darya's father, Alexander Dugin, participated in the project's realization. Sculptor Dmitry Alexandrov said the creation process took four months. The monument's height is 5 meters, with a 1.5-meter pedestal and a 3.5-meter figure.
Initially, it was planned to install the monument in Miusky Square in Moscow, but it was ultimately placed in Zakharovo park. According to sculptor Dmitry Alexandrov, the statue of Dugina is intended to combine "her masculinity and feminine lightness."
Dugina's mother, Natalya Melentyeva, was present at the unveiling, but her father was not seen among those who attended. Also present were Z-rapper Akim Apachev, singer Yulia Chicherina, oligarch and head of Tsargrad Konstantin Malofeev, propagandist and head of Rossiya Segodnya Dmitry Kiselev, and Eduard Boyakov, artistic director of the New Theater. The attendees were accompanied by security and armed men in plain clothes.
Dugina's car exploded on the night of August 20-21, 2022, near Moscow, as the philosopher's daughter was leaving the Tradition festival organized by Zakhar Prilepin. The FSB stated that the murder was planned by "Ukrainian special services" and that the perpetrator was Ukrainian citizen Natalya Vovk
https://x.com/sotanews/status/1958200307084636646
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