9/11: Truth Still Matters, Over 20 Years Later

[ExomatrixTV]

9/11 Truth Matters 21 Years Later:

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rumble.com/c/c-1647952 (https://rumble.com/c/c-1647952)
rokfin.com/JasonBermas (https://rokfin.com/JasonBermas)
theinfowarrior.podbean.com (https://theinfowarrior.podbean.com)
youtube.com/InfoWarrior (https://www.youtube.com/InfoWarrior)
twitter.com/JasonBermas (https://twitter.com/JasonBermas)

[norman]

News Footage on 9/11/2001 at Pentagon | Aired One Time and Never Again on TV Afterwards

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[East Sun]

IMO Bush, Chaney(SP). AND Bush Sr. got away way too easily.
And the "not seen" worst Bstds. of all also got off but their time
is coming eventually.
There will be a reckoning......

[norman]

September 11th 2001 - NEWSMIX

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[Satori]

Only the ignorant and fools believe the lies bound up and presented to the trusting masses in the form of the official statements and positions of 9/11.

The complicit-murdering-traitors and conspiratorial criminals responsible for 9/11, and what followed in its wake—to this very day, laugh at, and have nothing but contempt for, humanity.

[Blastolabs]

edit: OOOPS I meant to say Steven Jones, NOT Richard Gage!
Steven Jones is a cold fusion scientist who played an active role in covering up cold fusion in 1989, and then went on to be the "Controlled Demolition" spokesmen after 9/11 in order to cover the directed energy weapons used on 9/11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones

This video goes IN DEPTH into a side of 9/11 that is not discussed often due to the success of the "thermite controlled demolition" hypothesis.

What makes this video unique is that it was made a cold fusion /LENR scientist who eventually came to realize that many of the observations from 9/11 were identical to cold fusion/ LENR phenomenon.

Also gives a scientists perspective on the fact that Steven Jones, the guy who popularized "controlled demolition", was involved in covering up the first successful cold fusion experiments in 1989.

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[jaybee]

This video goes IN DEPTH into a side of 9/11 that is not discussed often due to the success of the "thermite controlled demolition" hypothesis.

What makes this video unique is that it was made a cold fusion /LENR scientist who eventually came to realize that many of the observations from 9/11 were identical to cold fusion/ LENR phenomenon.

Also gives a scientists perspective on the fact that Richard Gage, the guy who popularized "controlled demolition", was involved in covering up the first successful cold fusion experiments in 1989.

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Thanks...

I thought that Richard Gage featured in the OP video had been identified as a kind of Gatekeeper to steer away from more exotic kinds of energy used on 9/11....

Setting aside all the technological details and the people involved I now see 9/11 as a Mega Ritual type of event created to kick off the 21st centuary Globalist Agenda...

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edit... I see Blastolabs has edited his post to say he meant to say Steven Jones not Richard Gage - I made this post before watching any of the video (started watching it now)... as the years go by you come across a lot of info and for some reason I have a question mark over Richard Gage - perhaps because I subscibe to 'exotic' energy (ala Judy Wood) being used to bring the towers down I have a bit of suspicion when someone is influential and pushes the regular bombs and thermite theory... Gage may or may not be a gatekeeper but I keep that questionmark on the back burner just in case...

[Johnnycomelately]

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Interesting vid, gets a ways down a rabbit hole. I got 50 minutes in, am keeping the remaining ~2 hours for a rainy day. ~8)

They both defended Dr. Judy Woods better than I’ve heard before.

I didn’t hear “...Gage”, I heard “...Jones”. And even if some weird ‘ball lightning’ cold fusion were involved, I ask :Why not both?:

Following is my go-to document about 9/11 nefariousness. I checked out 3 of the many included reference links (none of which are live), and was satisfied that the material was legit.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/the-top-ten-connections-between-nist-and-nano-thermites/

[Mike Gorman]

I recall seeing footage of cars parked around the twin towers area being moved by magnetic/electromagnetic forces, and behaving very strangely, other phenomenon which all pointed to classified weapons being used, the dustification of concrete and very strong steel, it was all massively strange-0 of course building 7 was 'pulled' but the twin towers something else was going on, will we ever know the absolute truth?

[norman]

Tore Says Show 09SEPT22

THE PLAN
9-11

https://rumble.com/v1jdrjv-tore-says-show-09sept22.html

or (audio podcast)

https://podbay.fm/p/tore-says-show/e/1662753060




Contributed by Alexandra Bruce

https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/the-plan/


9/11 was an inside job. 9/11 caused us to lose our freedoms and it ushered-in the Surveillance State.

The perpetrators of your enslavement are walking around free. They’re the same people pushing the vaxx.

Tore Maras was a teenaged Navy Recruit when she was tapped to become a private contractor. She ended up working for two firms controlled by former CIA Director, John Brennan, The Analysis Corporation and Global Strategies Group.

On the eve of the 21st Anniversary of 9/11, Tore Maras shared bombshell details about ‘The Plan’ – as it was called – to destroy and control America.

‘The Plan’

1. Hatched by President George Bush Sr;

2. Initiated by President Bill Clinton, who Tore says was actually a front for Hillary and that Hillary was and is still in charge and it was Hillary who launched ‘The Plan’;

3. Former CIA Director, John Brennan was the one who drafted the CIA’s portion of ‘The Plan’; He personally fast-tracked and approved the “Express Visas” of all 19 hijackers who helped execute the 9/11 attacks while he was the CIA Station Chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia;

4. James Clapper, as DNI, was responsible for the cover-up of ‘The Plan’; including his oversight of the fraudulent NIST Report on 9/11.

5. Donald Rumsfeld facilitated and capitalized the war operation of ‘The Plan’ as Secretary of Defense and he implemented the privatized Military Industrial Complex;

6. President George Bush Jr, in his capacity as President knowingly and willingly allowed ‘The Plan’.

‘The Plan’ was about digitizing citizen records from birth to death, monitoring all phone calls and communications, collecting facial recognition, health data aggregation – that was Hillary Care – but Obamacare did for them.

Tore Says Obamacare is ultimately about data collection to implement the Technocratic New World Order.

This is not an ordinary episode of the Tore Says Show. She’s dropping bombs, she’s naming names, and it’s must-watch!

I’ve transcribed the first hour of this riveting 2-hour podcast below.

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TRANSCRIPT

“That was funny,” she comments. “Now, fast-forward, the bombing [Khobar Towers bombing] happens. You have this bombing, right? Obviously, the Saudis hate us. And the more interesting part was when they had this bombing, the move, that was unexpected is something that I saw happen in ’97 when I was there.

“They had pushed forward a program of fast-tracking visas. And when I tell you ‘fast-tracking visas’, we’re talking giving people visas without checking their backgrounds. And that felt really alarming…

“Just so you understand how long this has been going on, you must understand that this visa program was never actually approved. This was a CIA agency push and this was done right after the bombing and you’d say, ‘That makes no sense. If they hate us, why are we fast-tracking their visas? For people that hate us and have just exploded us? That makes zero sense!’

“Why would John Brennan step in after the bombing and – after being the Executive Assistant to George Tenet – why would he come to Saudi Arabia and expedite visas? And this was unofficial, right? Unofficial.

“Now, here’s where it gets even more interesting. We have the same players, because they’re the Executors. So, while we talk about the Guantánamo Trials for 9/11, it is incomplete, because the masterminds are missing.

“You would have to have had former impeached President of the United States, Bill Clinton, in his capacity of President of the United States – and impeached First Lady Hillary Clinton – for initiating ‘The Plan’. Literally, it’s called ‘The Plan’.

“Former CIA Director John Owen Brennan, in his capacity as CIA Briefer to impeached President Clinton, Executive Assistant to CIA Director George Tenet, CIA Station Chief in Saudi Arabia, Chief-of-Staff to CIA Director George Tenet, drafting the Agency portion of ‘The Plan’.

“Former DNI Director James Clapper, in his capacity as DNI Director under impeached President Clinton and as NGA Director, assisting in the cover-up of ‘The Plan’.

“And Donald Rumsfeld, in his capacity as Secretary of Defense for implementing the war operation and the Military Industrial Complex – privatized side – to facilitate and capitalize ‘The Plan’.

“And finally, former President George Bush Jr, in his capacity as President, for knowingly and willingly allowing ‘The Plan’.

“And just so you understand, Hillary Clinton wanted to do everything Obama did. In the ’90s, when they took office – and I say ‘they’, because we all know she manages everything – Hillary Care was supposed to take into effect. It was supposed to be put together properly. They needed to propel the harnessing of information. It was impeached President Clinton who was struggling on how to deploy surveillance and data collection systems within the United States.

“And this is where the idea was born: Digitizing citizen records from birth to death, monitoring all phone calls and communications, collecting facial recognition, health data aggregation – that was Hillary Care – but Obamacare did for them. Controlled Undocumented Travel and doing that with the cyber oligarchs we see today, which DARPA helped create.

“It wasn’t that we advanced in technology, they harnessed all these cyber oligarchs; from people in their garages, like Steve Jobs. All of these people were harnessed and made part of this 4th Unelected Branch of government to deploy ‘The Plan’.

“Brennan and Clapper were responsible for ensuring the recruitment, in 1995 through 2001 was completed, for a scheme to terrorize Americans and others around the world into submission by giving an avenue for solutions by law and implementing technology that would assist.

“That’s the warranted assumption, from the personal knowledge gained after such events. I saw the implementation. This was the plan they had. It was always ‘The Plan’.

“In 1996, when the Khobar Tower bombing happened, the CIA already knew it was going to happen. In fact, there’s evidence of that, that was discovered during whatever investigations they were doing. The actual Executors of the event were people John Owen Brennan had allowed onto the grounds of Building 131 prior to the bombing.

“How do I know this? Because it was documented. And I have sent out FOIA requests for visitor logs and guests of the CIA station chief, John Owen Brennan, that have been denied to date. It’s actually an annex in Bahrain, that began the operation in ’92 and was alleged to have been the mode of cable communications regarding this incident, which the CIA has denied the existence of.

“Remember, 19 US servicemembers lost their lives and it was none other than former DIA Director at the time, Director Clapper, along now with a deceased General Downing, who died of meningitis – whatever – who led the task force in the Khobar Towers investigation.

“Again, the bombing was imperative, to excuse the attack on US soil, years later. It was during that time of the bombings that many of the visa applications from Saudi Arabia were being denied…because of the bombings.

“And in fact, visa applications of the majority of hijackers during 9/11 were denied right before and after the bombings but John Owen Brennan personally overrode the denials and issued the migrant visas.

“In fact, in 1999, myself, I was back in Saudi Arabia when visa applications were coming into question, with a large delegation of “Sa-Sa” persons, like myself, which is a group of Security Alliance Intelligence Contractors, just so you know.

“So in November of 1999, I was pregnant and I didn’t know it, I personally reviewed and was made aware of approvals done by John Owen Brennan, who at the time was going to be officially promoted to Deputy Executive Director of the CIA and I was briefed on the Visa Express Program, because that was to be deployed to European nations, as well as Saudi Arabia.

“And like the 19 US servicemembers that died at the Khobar Tower, 19 hijackers helped execute the 9/11 attacks and all 19 of them received their visas before and after the Khobar Tower bombing and all 19 were done with John Owen Brennan’s stamp of approval from Jeddah.

“In fact, the deployment of Visa Express helped the support staff of less than five of the hijackers enter the United States with legal visas, because they’re not going to execute this plan without having people watching out back, from bag boys, to drivers, to rentals, to food, to anything that you’re doing.

“So, right before the 9/11 event – right before – over 22,000 visas were issued by the State Department to foreign nationals that weren’t all Saudi, either…but they were given the stamp of approval from Jeddah? Without interviews! So they just went there, applied and were like, ‘Here, you go. Go!’

“George Bush, himself was briefed on the program. In fact, he was briefed on the whole map to victory, indicating a list of all nations the US would be able to declare war with, because of this event. That unnamed general you heard, who told Rumsfeld – let’s listen to that, again, so that you can understand just how shameless these people are. They’re shameless! They are extremely shameless. But they laugh about it, too. He tells you this…

“So, in order for them to actually execute the plan of taking over nations, they found that it would be very, very difficult for them to push it through and this was another plan that was set up and this was done under the Clinton administration: How do we ensure that we can have Continuity of Government within the United States and other nations, rather than us continuously go to war – like right now, we’re gonna do it, because the market’s gonna drop, we’ve taken all of the cyber oligarchs and we are harnessing them all…(Most of the stuff you see in Hollywood is written by some intelligence analyst sitting in Langley, OK? I’m telling you that, now).

“The Plan was that they needed to ensure the Continuity of Government and Clinton was being impeached and this was a problem, because there were defiant people within Congress and the Senate that wanted to ensure that their own person gets in. And they all played Good Cop, Bad Cop, of course and George Bush, Sr came up with a fantastic plan, in Jeb’s area; the child that was left behind by the Bushes: We’re gonna digitize the way they vote, because if we can see a foreigner’s vote, then that’s how it happens…

“I was actually in that meeting, myself, where the discussion of the ‘hanging chads’ was being done: ‘How do we remove human error and go all in on technology, now that everyone’s on Netscape and loving the internet and it’s new…

“At that point, that was discussed and it was created into this big thing but this is how they allocated funds to the Department of Defense – specifically, DARPA – to come up with how to get it done and to create the software that would assist in getting it done.

“And you guys have heard Chris Curtis, himself confess in Congress of how he was hired by a Chinese-named company and the Government – and he even slipped and said, ‘George Bush’…he said it, himself, in order to be able to control elections, because they needed to ensure that their own people would have the ability for the Continuity of Government, from the minute Reagan was shot, until 2020 was done.

“They needed to ensure that continuity. So, elections was one. ‘We can’t go into all these places and just plunder. We should do it in a more peaceful way. We can create riots and then, come in as the Good Guy and offer them ways to elect things. And so the software was created.

“In 2004, Paul Brinkley and Robert Gates, who also then became CIA Director of a very specialized division in the Department of Defense, within a year, were funded and they got this done. And at that point, Chris Curtis’ software failed, because they got caught – kinda. And he confessed to Congress. Where is he now? In Florida. It’s ridiculous how, for the love of money, people will do anything.

“And it was at that point that we actually sold machines and went down to Venezuela and we told Chávez, ‘Hey, Dude! Here, look. We’ll help you win elections all the time. People will think they’ll be voting for you and you’ll be winning…and in the meantime, we’ll be training the software to be even better…

“And you know who’s idea this was? A former Ambassador to NATO, like Donald Rumsfeld. He was also the Chief US Liaison to the Republic of China. His name was David Bruce…His father-in-law was a Mellon, like from Mellon Bank. He went to the American School in London. He was one of the biggest intelligence assets our nation had in the ’50s, all the way up to the late ’70s, with Gerald Ford.

“Helped implement all of this and after the Nazi war, he was the ambassador to France and Germany and the UK and then, China, of course. So, this isn’t just some happenstance person. It was his idea of rigging the elections, because that’s something that the Chinese were already doing, because people weren’t allowed to question authority.

“I wanted to throw in names of actual people that did this.

“And just so you understand, Bruce was no stranger to psychological operations, as his children were huge proponents of the Council of United Civil Rights Leadership, and it was his daughter and her, husband Stephen Currier, who met with Martin Luther King, Jr and it is alleged assisted in his assassination, as they felt that him being assassinated would give more merit to the grievances people had. Just so that you understand context, here.

“So, as we move on, we had multiple portions of the war plan; what they were gonna do in order to dominate for oil and geography, because not a lot of people understand just how important the Middle East and the land of Turkey, geospatially are.

“How important they are. They link up 3 continents: Africa, which is an untapped, wealthy continent, Europe and Asia. And they give access to it all. And every large nation wishes to have access to that land and dominance.

“Now, as all of these parts; which is 1). the ‘Let’s terrorize Americans so we can digitize and control them. Therefore, we can create the monitoring systems that we can deploy over in other countries, too.’

“2). This was all in conjunction with the Crown and other big leaders, such as the Chinese, the Russians – sort-of, not really Gorbachev – wasn’t really his cup of tea. Putin played both sides of the fence very well and you can see him coming up really hard, now.

“Now, as we see, the elections were more the non-violent route and this was a very important project.

“9/11 was imperative. The market was going to collapse, because they were going to collapse it, because they wanted technology to fizzle and bust and this is why we had the Tech Bubble Bust.

“And post-2000, even though technology was rapidly advancing and people were getting more immersed in it, for some reason, everybody lost their money during the Tech Bubble…

“How did we lose money but everything’s being implemented? That’s because the Government took a hold if it. And you were too busy worrying about your safety to look at it. And this is how you make a shift in the market.

“And so we have John Brennan executing ‘The Plan’ to get people to fall on your knees, begging out of fear. And forfeiting their rights for that.

“At the same time, the Department of Defense, under Rumsfeld was working really, really hard and fast on biological warfare and this is where anthrax comes in. That is what he was working on.

“He was more the person thinking that ‘What we have to do is control the people from the inside out. Not only from outside forces but inside.

“Either we make them dependent on medication or we change them, where the strongest survive and therefore, we can provide everything they’ll need and they’ll be happy. I think we’ve heard Klaus say the same words, Klaus Schwab…

“And this all came from our own government. Many people would like to say that it was ‘this person’ and ‘that person’ and they were all fronts. It was the US Government. It was Rumsfeld. Remember, he sat on the board of Gilead. OK? He sat on the board.

“Bush Senior started the process, the process was attenuated with that Redneck from Arkansas. It was his wife that did it. She wanted to be President but the ’90s wouldn’t let her, so he just pretended to be President while she was really in charge.

“And so, the plan was born. This was ‘The Plan’. ‘The Plan was for dominance. I know, we as a nation want to be strong and we want to stand and compete. And that is what true competition is. That is what true people do. But these people did not have that.

“9/11 is how they got to you. 9/11 is how they got away with violating our privacy, throwing more people in jail, curbing our speech, becoming the Thought Police and smothering us in technology, like nobody’s business.

“They pushed us faster into technology than we could blink. I’m a Gen Xer. I remember a time when we had corded phones and TVs that were static…

[Blastolabs]

I meant to write Steven Jones not Gage, I edited my post above, sorry guys

[Blastolabs]

I recall seeing footage of cars parked around the twin towers area being moved by magnetic/electromagnetic forces, and behaving very strangely, other phenomenon which all pointed to classified weapons being used, the dustification of concrete and very strong steel, it was all massively strange-0 of course building 7 was 'pulled' but the twin towers something else was going on, will we ever know the absolute truth?

The video I shared above makes things fairly clear, a scientist who was working on the same phenomenon as the "classified weapons" used explains his journey to realizing that what he was working on must have been used on 9/11.

When he finally realized it was the SAME phenomenon he says that he started crying because he knew that the suppression would be even more intense than it already was.

Anyone here can run a QUICK EASY and CHEAP experiment that provides strong evidence for cold fusion phenomenon.




Buy a cheap "Ultra Sonic Cleaning Device"
Fill it with water, along with a piece of aluminium, and a piece of tissue paper
Turn it on for a few minutes
Notice how the aluminium is SHREDDED, while the tissue is intact


When the tiny bubbles in the water collapse (called a cavitation bubble) a vortex is created which ends with a significant electronic burst.
That is what destroys the aluminum and leaves the tissue unharmed. JUST LIKE SEEN ON 9/11!!!

Also check out the pistol shrimp (http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2017/ph240/nag2/), it does the same thing by snapping its claw.
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2017/ph240/nag2/images/f1big.jpg

[Satori]

On the occasion of the 21st anniversary I am again posting a peer-reviewed article I wrote in March of 2015. (It was peer-reviewed by 3 engineers and 3 lawyers.) The article can be found on the websites of The Journal of 9/11 Studies, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and Global Research. David Ray Griffin called the article “An important brick in the wall of 9/11 truth.”

www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf

[Blastolabs]

On the occasion of the 21st anniversary I am again posting a peer-reviewed article I wrote in March of 2015. (It was peer-reviewed by 3 engineers and 3 lawyers.) The article can be found on the websites of The Journal of 9/11 Studies, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and Global Research. David Ray Griffin called the article “An important brick in the wall of 9/11 truth.”

www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf

The only person who ever claimed to have "evidence of thermite" was Steven Jones. Jones is known for his key role in covering up the cold fusion experiments in 1989. He did the same thing with his "thermite hypothesis" which served to distract people from the fact that evidence of cold fusion phenomenon was seen after 9/11.

This video explains in detail.
It is clear that Stephen Jones is not to be trusted, does anyone really believe that someone would have gotten so much main stream media coverage if they were exposing the truth?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cTi0bLvfY6E

[Satori]

On the occasion of the 21st anniversary I am again posting a peer-reviewed article I wrote in March of 2015. (It was peer-reviewed by 3 engineers and 3 lawyers.) The article can be found on the websites of The Journal of 9/11 Studies, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and Global Research. David Ray Griffin called the article “An important brick in the wall of 9/11 truth.”

www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf

The only person who ever claimed to have "evidence of thermite" was Steven Jones. Jones is known for his key role in covering up the cold fusion experiments in 1989. He did the same thing with his "thermite hypothesis" which served to distract people from the fact that evidence of cold fusion phenomenon was seen after 9/11.

This video explains in detail.
It is clear that Stephen Jones is not to be trusted, does anyone really believe that someone would have gotten so much main stream media coverage if they were exposing the truth?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cTi0bLvfY6E

Nowhere in the article did I say that the WTC buildings were destroyed by thermite. Not once. In fact I was careful not to make any claim about what type of explosive or explosives were used to destroy these buildings on 9/11/2021. And, I made clear that WTC 7 was destroyed in a conventional manner, which would not admit of thermite being the cause.

I assume that the reason you bring up S. Jones and thermite is to attempt to refute my article. If so, you fall flat. Indeed, assuming you read the article, you don’t understand it, as your post indicates that you misapprehend, or seek to misrepresent, the article.

Yes, a few footnotes refer the reader to writings by Jones. But many others refer the reader to several other experts who disagree with Jones and who present different scientific hypotheses, including experts who purport to support the official theory.

[abc]

21 years since the world discovered that jet fuel can melt steel beams but not paper passports

[jaybee]

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Just saw this and it is of interest regarding this thread because Jason Bermas is the interviewer in the OP video - also controversial because of the personal attack on Judy Wood...

Whatever else 9/11 is... it is a massive PSYOP and hence the high emotions and complications surrounding it... people get very attached to different theories about the day and the whole thing is very complex in it's entirety -

Jason Bermas says he is concerned that Judy Wood is poisoning the well by going in the no planes direction while promoting the DEW theory... but calling her verifyably insane (mainly by association) is a step too far I think :)

It's interesting reading the comments under the video... Jason has just stirred up a hornet's nest of controvesy but this is par for the course where 9/11 is concerned...

I'm almost deciding to not bother posting this video because of how it opens up some gaping wounds - but I'm going to go ahead because ..... hey this is a 9/11 thread and that's the way the subject usually rolls... :sherlock:


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The Dr. Judy Wood Op

one of the comments...


Jason, the way you feel about Judy Wood (which I think is valid) is the way the people I was associating with in the early 2000s felt about you and Luke, for the exact same reasons. We were aligned with Michael C. Ruppert and people with that mentality who were trying to bring the message of 9/11 Truth to mainstream awareness, and we knew it was a hard sell, and we were desperate to be taken seriously.

So we told everyone, "whatever you do, don't watch Loose Change. It's a psyop meant to discredit 9/11 Truth. They're distracting the public with nonsense about a secret pod (which was just the aircraft's wheel well) instead of talking about who did it, and most importantly *why they did it*."

This faction would have put Judy Wood and Loose Change in the exact same category of red herrings.


edit - Just decided to post this Judy Wood video here to even things up ....


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Dr. Judy Wood – 9/11 Directed Energy Weapon

[norman]

SEPTEMBER CLUES & 9/11 AMATEUR FOOTAGE (RESEARCH COMPILATION OF SIMON SHACK'S DOCUMENTARIES)

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[Delight]

This will not surprise anyone here.


The Parallels Between 9/11 & COVID | Richard Gage & Dr. Madhava Setty
Sep 11, 2022 Today we’ll be offering a unique presentation and exercise in sense making that looks at parallel between the COVID19 narrative and the 9/11 narrative. Two events that have had a huge impact only how our society functions, as well as collective consciousness.

In this presentation we are going to be focusing on facts and evidence surrounding both of these major events, and how they may have been ignored in larger societal conversation.

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[Delight]

Judy Wood has been demonized. As with "covid" MDs and scientists' alternative views being demonized, I wonder if the suppression actually gives her information even more credibility. She had spent time with John Hutchison.

John Hutchison Interview with Art Bell (2002) - The Hutchison Effect

comment below video
"Explains 9/11then and the lack of debris and bodies concrete steel filing cabinets toilets 🚽 etc you look at the very fast disintegration of the twin towers fits with this Hutchison effect without effecting the surrounding buildings"

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Dr. Judy Wood - Breakthrough Energy Movement conference in Holland, 2012

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[Satori]

In post #13 on this thread I posted a link to a peer reviewed paper I wrote that was published in March of 2015. That paper argues for a critical review of the relevancy and reliability of expert opinions offered for or against the official explanation of the cause of the destruction of the WTC buildings on 9/11/2001.

The video in post #19 above points out what Gage called “the abuse of science regarding 9/11 and the pandemic”. (I’m paraphrasing.) The gist of his point is: experts were mustered to lie about the science and physics behind the collapse of the WTC buildings, and attack opposing experts opinions, just as experts were, and still are, mustered to lie about the science and medicine about the pandemic and the jabs, and attack opposing scientific and medical opinions.

To this I will add something I said on this Forum a year or so ago on a covid thread. That is, that the criminals took a lesson from 9/11. That lesson involved the need to be able to persuade and confuse the masses by means of the deployment of experts, so-called, and their expert opinions in connection with their pandemic and jab program they were going to launch against not just the US, but the world.

However, one problem the criminals faced with 9/11 was the visibility of what occurred. This problem was coupled with what people saw on that day, and on videos since that day, over and over again, year after year. People began to scratch their heads, wonder and question what destroyed the buildings. They began to form their own opinions, which began to differ from the opinions of the experts telling them to ignore what they saw and heard. This problem for the criminals was enhanced by the fact that while most people don’t fancy themselves a virologist, or an immunologist, or a medical doctor, or biologist or some such thing, they do fancy themselves to have a basic understanding, from experience, of the mechanics of fire, construction, and gravity. Also, far too many People had seen on TV and movies actual footage of buildings being brought down by controlled demolition. Thus, many of us can form and have formed our own opinions based upon our own experiences about buildings that collapse at free fall speed into their own footprint. The cause is controlled demolition of some sort. Even if we do not know the exact sort of explosive(s) actually deployed.

So, my belief is, that the criminals learned a lesson from 9/11. They understood they had a problem with the lay person acting as his and her own expert, not believing the governments’ experts and drawing conclusions contrary to the official narratives. This would lead to undesirable results, such as resistance, including vaccine hesitancy and other forms of noncompliance.

To address this, they realized that they need to get people to believe the experts about the pandemic and the jab so that most people will not feel they are qualified to question the experts and will comply. They also had to convince people to not trust any expert who came out against the official narrative. The media played an essential part in all of this, as it did with 9/11. To this very day.

A fix was needed for this problem. A virtually invisible “virus”, a global pandemic, shrouded in the mysteries of science, virology, immunology and the like, fit the bill perfectly. There’s nothing for anyone to see and question or doubt what they are seeing. The illness morphs, it is asymptomatic, it is wherever and whenever the experts say, it affects whomever and in myriad ways as the experts declare, and the symptoms vary and change and the treatment and cure is what the experts proclaim. If a real expert, not a paid shill, comes along who challenges the official narrative he or she is censored, or worse, just like 9/11.

Unlike 9/11, no layperson is going to feel qualified by experience within the kin of common people, or otherwise, to question the official narrative. Most people will be inclined to accept the opinions of the experts who are paraded about by the mainstream. People like Fauci.

Indeed as Neil deGrasse Tyson said on the Steve Colbert show in early 2020 when asked by Colbert about the so-called Corona virus and the pandemic, “I think we're in the middle of a massive experiment worldwide." To which Colbert replied, “You mean we're the guinea pigs?” To which deGrasse Tyson replied, nodding his head approvingly, "Maybe. The experiment is: will people listen to scientists." ... "Like Anthony Fauci." Colbert said....

Notably, deGrasse Tyson was wearing a tie that at up close appeared to be a NASA type rocket, but when the camera pulled back, it appeared very much to be a syringe and needle.

Predictive programming indeed.

Edit: To add video of the interview and to correct the quote. The discussion begins at the 54 second mark and goes on for about a minute. There may be a commercial before the interview starts.

https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/29D12399-58D4-0238-1C4A-B2D7D7FDB4AC/

[DaveToo]

On the occasion of the 21st anniversary I am again posting a peer-reviewed article I wrote in March of 2015. (It was peer-reviewed by 3 engineers and 3 lawyers.) The article can be found on the websites of The Journal of 9/11 Studies, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and Global Research. David Ray Griffin called the article “An important brick in the wall of 9/11 truth.”

www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf

The only person who ever claimed to have "evidence of thermite" was Steven Jones. Jones is known for his key role in covering up the cold fusion experiments in 1989. He did the same thing with his "thermite hypothesis" which served to distract people from the fact that evidence of cold fusion phenomenon was seen after 9/11.

This video explains in detail.
It is clear that Stephen Jones is not to be trusted, does anyone really believe that someone would have gotten so much main stream media coverage if they were exposing the truth?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cTi0bLvfY6E

Nowhere in the article did I say that the WTC buildings were destroyed by thermite. Not once. In fact I was careful not to make any claim about what type of explosive or explosives were used to destroy these buildings on 9/11/2021. And, I made clear that WTC 7 was destroyed in a conventional manner, which would not admit of thermite being the cause.

I assume that the reason you bring up S. Jones and thermite is to attempt to refute my article. If so, you fall flat. Indeed, assuming you read the article, you don’t understand it, as your post indicates that you misapprehend, or seek to misrepresent, the article.

Yes, a few footnotes refer the reader to writings by Jones. But many others refer the reader to several other experts who disagree with Jones and who present different scientific hypotheses, including experts who purport to support the official theory.

The start of the collapse of WTC7 may have used conventional explosives or thermite or a combination of them.
What followed after collapse initiation was no longer conventional explosives/thermite.
More to follow soon.

[norman]

A closer look at the Art Project team at the Twin Towers before the famous day's event. It adds up to a very suspicious cluster of coincidences and behaviours.

ORDER OUT OF CHAOS | VOL 1: THE B-THING

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Originally released May 25, 2022 at DauntlessDialogue.com

The 9/11 Commission Report blamed radical al Qaeda terrorists for the horrific terror attacks carried out on American soil. However, the official report failed to mention Gelatin and E-Team. Who are they and what are the implications of their connections to Mossad? And just what exactly is “The B-Thing?” Edited and narrated by Mouthy Buddha, ORDER OUT OF CHAOS is a new series investigating the true culprits behind the most notorious false flag attack in modern history, how they engineered it, and how they got away with it.

[Bluegreen]

Splitting the Sky - Exposing the Real Criminals Behind 9-11 and the NWO Agenda

On September 11th, 2008 Splitting the Sky (John Boncore) spoke on Parliament Hill as the final speaker at the 'March on Ottawa for 9/11 Truth', and he began to name the names of those benefited financially from the attacks of 9/11/2001, and to expose them (companies, individuals, countries and agencies) as being the real perpetrators. He also made a call to action to apprehend the individuals, because the official authorities have failed to do so. Highlights of that speech are included at the beginning of this video.

A few days later, we went to Mohawk territory in Khanawake, near Montreal and we conducted an on-camera interview (*) in which Splitting the Sky systematically went through his research, naming the names and exposing the agenda. He stated the risks which he faced for making these statements, but felt 100% certain about his conclusions, and stressed the importance of bringing out this information. He stated that attempts have been made on his life in the past, in his years of activism, but that he did not fear death.

He criticized Alex Jones, Amy Goodman, and others in the "alternative media" for not having him on their shows, and discussing these facts, and criticized the "anti-war" movement for not talking about these issues, as they are controlled opposition.

On March 17th, 2009 in Calgary, Splitting the Sky became the first and only person to attempt a citizen's arrest of George W. Bush for war crimes, crimes against humanity and torture.

On March 13th, 2013 he was found dead in a secluded area of his hometown of Chase, BC. Media reports say that he had likely slipped and fallen, and had died of a resulting head wound.

Several times over the years, however, Splitting the Sky had said "If someone tells you that I died from a slip and fall -- don't fall for it!". All of the details are unknown, but I believe there is every reason to suspect "foul play" in the death of this life-long, high-profile, dedicated activist for truth, peace, rights and justice.

"If you want to know who was behind 9/11, follow the money" ~ 'Splitting the Sky'

... and, he did just that. The real terrorists are here in this graphic based on his research. None of the terrorists was a Muslim, none was named Osama bin Laden, nor even remotely resembled any of the alleged 19 hijackers.

(*) The interview begins around the 11:45 mark. Poorly made, amateur quality, sound is not right at the beginning, information riveting.

Published 22nd March 2013 (1:55:18)

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[norman]

I searched for this film, couldn't see it posted before, so here's another 9/11 film.

As well as facts that all 9/11 films cover it does a good job of extracting the little hints in people's expressions that feed your extra senses, sometimes without any words being spoken at all.

911: Incontrovertible ▪️ Full 9/11 Documentary ▪️ By: Tony Rooke

https://rumble.com/v46tdjr--911-incontrovertible-full-911-documentary-by-tony-rooke-.html

v4481ro/?pub=1yatds

[norman]

This short 20 minute docu' is surprisingly interesting.

It calls out so many obvious fakes.

In 2024 we now understand how fake the MSM is. In 2001 none of us would have allowed our minds to go there where they will when you watch this in 2024.

Nine Eleven in 20 (2019) - 911 Documentary - Hibbeler

https://rumble.com/v43tuak--911-nine-eleven-2019-911-documentary-hibbeler-productions-censored-on-yout.html

v418hpb/?pub=1yatds

[Mari]

This short 20 minute docu' is surprisingly interesting.

It calls out so many obvious fakes.

In 2024 we now understand how fake the MSM is. In 2001 none of us would have allowed our minds to go there where they will when you watch this in 2024.

Nine Eleven in 20 (2019) - 911 Documentary - Hibbeler

https://rumble.com/v43tuak--911-nine-eleven-2019-911-documentary-hibbeler-productions-censored-on-yout.html

v418hpb/?pub=1yatds


Very interesting video Norman (apart from the annoying background music)
Back then, after all the 'footage' ,I was left with something niggling at the back of my mind, a persistent nagging and it took me a while before I realised just what had 'alerted' me.

Two things: There was supposed to be 'footage' from a Fireman training video which supposedly captured the first plane slamming into the building - the 'first' footage. The camera operator shooting the video just happened to be looking up at the skyline with his camera after supposedly hearing a 'roar' (?) and got the 'perfect shot'. That immediately grated, then, for reasons I couldn't work out. Until now: The fireman 'crew' were crisis actors, or maybe the cameraman was.

Second: the media treated us all - the whole world - with countless repetitions of the planes slamming into the building. I mean countless. I was thinking back then, we've just witnessed an immense trauma - many many souis have perished -why are we getting repeated media shots of the 'planes' slamming into these buildings? This seemed, back then beyond even what the media usually did. Ramming the point home, obviously, I know that now, in the wake of the psychological manipulations of the people re the Convid hoax. creating a new paradigm -preparing us for terrorist war-footing.

We know now that mainstream media is irretrievably corrupt and is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the cabal. I've watched a lot of 9/11 vids over the years and I didn't need much convincing that the whole official narrative was an almighty crock. But on the day, back then, I felt real misgivings about what I was seeing, but couldn't piece it together because I thought, then, that our media could be trusted.
Oh - how we've grown up since then!!

Just out of curiosity Norman (and any interested others) did you find any 'niggles' on the day - gut feelings, if you like, upon first seeing the presented footage?

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/iluminatibot/status/1785844213877256350

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[Tintin]

This short 20 minute docu' is surprisingly interesting.

It calls out so many obvious fakes.

In 2024 we now understand how fake the MSM is. In 2001 none of us would have allowed our minds to go there where they will when you watch this in 2024.

Nine Eleven in 20 (2019) - 911 Documentary - Hibbeler

https://rumble.com/v43tuak--911-nine-eleven-2019-911-documentary-hibbeler-productions-censored-on-yout.html

v418hpb/?pub=1yatds

That's a pretty neat find :thumbsup:

The Canadian chap being interviewed is named David Long and the full interview is in the library 911 directory along with the "Ace" Baker 'no-planes' argument video presentation referenced in this video.

There's actually a fair amount of video in this directory. One or two 'classics' like 'September Clues' aren't there as although I do have them I didn't find the content especially helpful. Providing this can be accessed of course the directory is here (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911)

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Capture_911.PNG
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Capture_9112.PNG

[Tintin]

Just out of curiosity Norman (and any interested others) did you find any 'niggles' on the day - gut feelings, if you like, upon first seeing the presented footage?

Yes, absolutely I did :flower: The moment I saw the second tower collapse. That never sat well.

I remember leaving the room at work after seeing the TV footage to hit the coffee machine for a much needed brew and saw an American work colleague there, and said this to her: "What have they gone and done, now."

It was a full dozen years later when I found myself unexpectedly digging into what we'd been shown, told, and exposed to: 6 full months of near obsessive digging, every day, and I learned a LOT. Grateful thanks are given to every single curious soul, brave witnesses, and committed researchers whose material I was able to absorb :sun:

[norman]

Just out of curiosity Norman (and any interested others) did you find any 'niggles' on the day - gut feelings, if you like, upon first seeing the presented footage?

I didn't get a chance to watch it on TV live because I was driving a tractor and only catching bits of news on the crappy radio in the cab which was really only capable of receiving radio 5. I had a very wrong mental impression of what was happening. I thought they were talking about a TV mast on the roof when they said a tower had gone down. My then girl friend had a TV at home and she was running VHS tapes all day recording the news though so I did get to see quite a lot a week later.

The spooky thing that was weird at the time for me was that the next morning I stopped off at a co-op to get a few things on my way to work and I noticed the newspaper section was chock full of "special edition" Sep 11 plane crash papers that were not newspapers but something fully dedicated to the 'terror attack' with giant horrific colour pictures on the front and all the way through. I didn't get one, but maybe I should have. When I saw them I felt something odd but, as you do, I had stuff to get on with and 2 years went by before I even began to hear about anomalies and review the footage. Once I got my hands on the Dave Vonkleist 9/11 in Plane Sight DVD I made lots of copies and gave them away to as many people as I could, including a member of the House of Lords who had at one time been my local MP down in Wales.

I was only just beginning to get access to the internet at around that time. At first by using a neighbour's connection ( for about a year ) then I got my own, very oddly, I discovered Project Camelot almost straight off the bat once I was on my own connection at home and watched all their videos which freaked me the hell out and I crashed, for a bunch of reasons but information overload was the straw that broke. I was actually in psych' hospital at the moment Avalon forum 1 was launched so I only turned up after the rush "and sat in the back", sedated but well fed for the first time in a year or two.

[Vicus]

First 9/11 impressions that day only from TV

A) Just came from groceries shopping,turn TV on and...WTF? I saw "life" the second plane crashing! it was clear not a movie cuz commentator panic! ,begin the marathon TV that day...

B) Hours later call me a good friend of mine and invite me to dinner and continue watching the news,once there I told him and his girlfriend "we are watching history in the making,there will be a
before and an after this Event!

C) At that time I was not 100% awake yet (that came 2004 with the second version of the documentary "Loose Change", BUT, just with the first 24 hours TV I smelled a BIG RAT!

I saw TV pieces that later you find only in that documentary, and today that documentary version(2004) I could not find last year...

for example:
1- people and firefighter telling to reporters about explosions on the base building...
2- Only 3/4 windows on fire from building 7... when it collapsed I told to myself... NO WAY!
3-TV showing the ground from Pentagon and asking the medics,helper and so on and they saying: no bodies, no bodies parts,no luggage, no wings, no turbines(titanium made!),no wheels just a
hole on the wall about maximal 5 m in diameter ...
4-Most people forgot very quickly about the 4th plane...(in Pittsburgh? or something... ) TV showing from helicopter just a long Lang hole on the ground and some dirt, that's all !
again reporter asking the rescue operatives and...???
Again no bodies, no bodies parts, no luggage,no wings, no turbines,no wheels...???
5-A bunch of people from 2004 documentary die after in suspicious ways: one black man who talk long and extensive about bombs going off in the base buildings, one Dutch expert in control
demolitions interview in Holland. who stated very clear what and how it was possible...(car "accident")

Well,the rest is make to believe whatever we want/prefer to believe against the official parole:

a FAIRY TALE :flypig:

[Michel Leclerc]

As stated elsewhere, the beginning of my unbelief was when I saw in real time on TV how in the tower with the top level antenna the antenna sank through the roof into a void under it before the surrounding top floors followed in its wake. That led to my immediate conclusion that the central concrete core in which the elevator columns had been fitted was being exploded away under it. When I visited New York at the end of the 80s, the remarkable construction of the towers being floors horizontally attached to the central core and vertically kept in line bij the glass and steel outer veil, had my special interest. Then and there it had already occurred to me that the buildings were admirably secured by the most central part of them, being both the strongest and the best hidden. Hence the disappearance of the antenna (and consequently of the central core) immediately implied a full collapse, which did follow, immediately. All the rest of the official explanation was nonsense.

[norman]

First 9/11 impressions that day only from TV

A) Just came from groceries shopping,turn TV on and...WTF? I saw "life" the second plane crashing! it was clear not a movie cuz commentator panic! ,begin the marathon TV that day...


I don't think studio commentator shock or panic is evidence that it was not 'a movie'. Their shock or panic would be designed into the op, so they were not privi to the video feeds being piped. The other kind of feeds were the reporter on the ground type where they usually just talked about the chaos with snippets of things they had been told by operatives running it.

The media was never anything but the intel world's bitch. It was born out of the Rhodes Foundation which decided in the first decade of the 20th century ( formalised at a special meeting in London on a date I can't exactly remember but I think it was 1909 ) that all newspapers and journalism was to be controlled for the purpose of advancing it's agenda. In America it first turned up as the RCA company, a spinoff of the Marconi company which was a Pilgrim Society front. The Pilgrim society and the Rhodes Fundation are essentially the same people and the same thing.

Even Charles Lieber (of nano wires and nano tec' fame ) the man the DOD arrested at an airport near the start of the Covid plandemic is a descendant of the key operations manager of the Marconi/RCA rollout.


Having said all that, I've watched the 20 min video above 5 or more time now and I think i can see signs that the video maker has done a bit of fakery of his own in it.

[onawah]

I was watching the live footage from pedestrians on the scene on the day it all happened.
Then on the following days, I watched what was being offered on TV as the "official verson".
And the two versions just didn't add up, which was when I started jumping down rabbit holes and became a dedicated conspiracy theorist.
Everything presented from Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth:
https://www.ae911truth.org/news
...corroborated my suspicions, and of course Project Camelot and then the first Project Avalon forum.
I imagine that day was quite the game changer for a whole lot of people.
.



Just out of curiosity Norman (and any interested others) did you find any 'niggles' on the day - gut feelings, if you like, upon first seeing the presented footage?

[Mike]

I was watching the live footage from pedestrians on the scene on the day it all happened.
Then on the following days, I watched what was being offered on TV as the "official verson".
And the two versions just didn't add up, which was when I started jumping down rabbit holes and became a dedicated conspiracy theorist.
Everything presented from Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth:
https://www.ae911truth.org/news
...corroborated my suspicions, and of course Project Camelot and then the first Project Avalon forum.
I imagine that day was quite the game changer for a whole lot of people.
.



Just out of curiosity Norman (and any interested others) did you find any 'niggles' on the day - gut feelings, if you like, upon first seeing the presented footage?

Hey Nat, that was my experience too. Watching that video Norman posted brought it all back.

Didn't Bill interview an airline employee with insider knowledge? Or am I confused?

[onawah]

Could be, I can't remember how I discovered Project Camelot, but he would surely remember who he's interviewed.



Didn't Bill interview an airline employee with insider knowledge? Or am I confused?

[Hermoor]

Recently I sent a copy of Christopher Bollyn's "Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed The World" to a family member and re-read it again myself.

On the day and for many years after, to my shame, I remained a brainwashed zombie who couldn't see past the official story for the pack of lies it really was.

I spent all of September 2002 living, working and socialising five minutes walk from ground zero. I heard a lot of stories from local people who were already highly sceptical of what their government and media were telling them. I had veteran firefighters and gnarly cops sobbing in front of me as they related the trauma of the day itself and subsequent events.

My closest local friend at the time was in the same line of work as myself. His partner was two weeks overdue on 9/11. She was near to one of the towers as it collapsed. She had to run for her life and also that of her unborn child. Unsurprisingly she didn't get very far. The stress and fear caused her to go into labour. She started giving birth in a doorway as bits of building, large clouds of dust and body parts rained down around her.

A false flag as big as that must have got the green light from the pinnacle of world control.

The same goes for the scamdemic.

For the sake of humanity and common decency it is the duty of everyone in the know to keep waking the sheeple up one by one.

https://static-3.bitchute.com/live/cover_images/T3K9O0xskJWQ/H747UuYPCMTs_640x360.jpg

[norman]

About the No Planes hypothesis.

That group of 6 Israelis who were arrested in Virginia after having been seen on a roof filming the destruction of the towers and high5ing each other about it etc were taken and locked up for about 2 months before being sent off on their way home to Israel where they admitted on an Israeli TV channel, in Hebrew, that they were there to document the event.

Whichever agency arrested them and took their equipment they recorded the event with will have seen exactly what they recorded. If there were no planes, they will have seen the evidence of that, or if there were they will have seen that.

[Harmony]

Didn't Bill interview an airline employee with insider knowledge? Or am I confused?
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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Having said all that, I've watched the 20 min video above 5 or more time now and I think i can see signs that the video maker has done a bit of fakery of his own in it.

Yes, I watched the first few minutes then stopped. Clear fakery is all over the place. The side-by-side at 2.01 for example. These are two completely different pieces of footage. The one on the left is the feed from Chopper 4 on the NBC broadcast; on the right, FOX, from a static shot on the Empire State Building. And the plane has been digitally removed from the NBC shot, as it has in many other sequences.

As I've illustrated in several other 9/11 threads, matching a CGI composite and inserting it into a dynamic, moving scene involves a huge amount of technical complexity even today; it requires multiple shots and passes and substantial post-processing to achieve. If you know anything about how CGI works (and I do), it is unconditionally impossible to pull off in a LIVE broadcast, x50 as well (that's how many cameras recorded the second strike), from all those different angles. Actually that's impossible to do today, in 2024, to say nothing of 2001. It's the equivalent of broadcasting, live, a hand-drawn animated scene (no artist can draw that fast!). The 'no planes' theory is absurd: it holds as much water as a bucket of dry sand. And you can take that to the bank!

[grapevine]

Grenfell Tower (24 storeys) burned intensely for 60 hours yet did not collapse.

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.upp-prod-eu.s3.amazonaws.com%2F6c0df10c-fb10-11e9-a354-36acbbb0d9b6?source=next-article&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&width=700&dpr=1

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

There's actually a fair amount of video in this directory. One or two 'classics' like 'September Clues' aren't there as although I do have them I didn't find the content especially helpful. Providing this can be accessed of course the directory is here (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911)


Any chance you could add September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor Tintin? It is still, in my opinion, the GOAT of all 9/11 documentaries. Covers just about every single angle of the whole filthy mess, inside and out. Absolute fire, and compulsory viewing for anyone interested in the events of that day. And the most effective red pill for sceptics.


:flame::flame:Probably the best five hours you'll ever spend on the subject of 9/11:flame::flame:

Looks like the original upload has been taken down, but a copy exists here:
4hr 52min
September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor
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[Tintin]

There's actually a fair amount of video in this directory. One or two 'classics' like 'September Clues' aren't there as although I do have them I didn't find the content especially helpful. Providing this can be accessed of course the directory is here (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911)


Any chance you could add September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor Tintin? It is still, in my opinion, the GOAT of all 9/11 documentaries. Covers just about every single angle of the whole filthy mess, inside and out. Absolute fire, and compulsory viewing for anyone interested in the events of that day. And the most effective red pill for sceptics.


:flame::flame:Probably the best five hours you'll ever spend on the subject of 9/11:flame::flame:

Looks like the original upload has been taken down, but a copy exists here:
4hr 52min
September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor
hj3e8cKZWiY

Actually, yes, why not :highfive: And I think I have seen that too - pretty certain of that.

I'll need to amend my indexing, but that said there are one or two other little interesting pieces I have found in the last year or so, so a geeky librarian piece of work to do there; no biggie.

I should also include Daniel Liszt's interview with Jim Marrs there too actually.

Mazzucco now downloaded, and I'll move it over pretty soon today :thumbsup:

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks :thumbsup:

It's time they updated that doc to be honest, or re-released it at 1080p. Nonetheless, it's still an excellent addition to the Library!

[Tintin]

Thanks :thumbsup:

It's time they updated that doc to be honest, or re-released it at 1080p. Nonetheless, it's still an excellent addition to the Library!

...and now residing there:

September 11: The New Pearl Harbor and the link is here: https://avalonlibrary.net/911/September_11_-_The_New_Pearl_Harbor_dir_by_Massimo_Mazzucco_%282013%29.mp4 :muscle:

[lake]

snip ....

As I've illustrated in several other 9/11 threads, matching a CGI composite and inserting it into a dynamic, moving scene involves a huge amount of technical complexity even today; it requires multiple shots and passes and substantial post-processing to achieve. If you know anything about how CGI works (and I do), it is unconditionally impossible to pull off in a LIVE broadcast, x50 as well (that's how many cameras recorded the second strike), from all those different angles. Actually that's impossible to do today, in 2024, to say nothing of 2001. It's the equivalent of broadcasting, live, a hand-drawn animated scene (no artist can draw that fast!). The 'no planes' theory is absurd: it holds as much water as a bucket of dry sand. And you can take that to the bank!

But they did say back in January of 2000 that they could do it and had!

https://i.postimg.cc/c4Yz9L29/tv_fake_2001.jpg

The link for that is gone but it is still on Archive Org here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20080420045800/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/when-tv-brings-you-the-news-as-it-didnt-happen-728236.html

The full text of the article is this:


When TV brings you the news as it didn't happen

Broadcasters are using virtual imaging technology to alter live broadcasts - and not even the news is safe from tampering

Monday, 24 January 2000

Viewers tuning into American broadcaster CBS's recent news coverage of the millennium celebrations in New York witnessed a televisual sleight of hand which enabled CBS to alter the reality of what they saw. Using "virtual imaging" technology, the broadcaster seamlessly adjusted live video images to include an apparently real promotion for itself in Times Square. The move has sparked debate about the ethics of using advances in broadcast technology to alter reality without telling viewers that what they are seeing isn't really there.

While it's little surprise that advances in TV technology enable broadcasters to better manipulate existing images and create new ones, what is surprising is that this was done during a live broadcast and in a news programme. The CBS evening news coverage involved replacing the logo of rival network NBC with the CBS logo on a large video screen in Times Square. NBC was "outraged" by the use of the technology, and even CBS's evening news presenter, Dan Rather, admitted it was a "mistake".

The technology to do this comes from the defence industry where, following the end of the Cold War, a number of companies have developed new ways of commercially exploiting their military navigation and tracking expertise.

The system CBS used was developed by a United States company called Princeton Video Images (PVI). Other players in this field include Symah Vision - part of French defence to media group Lagadere; Israel-based Orad Hi Tech Systems, and SciDex, another Israeli firm with offices in Europe and the US. Each system, while similar, has its differences. None of the companies will publicly discuss how their's works. But the principle is common: each alters the live video image in the split second before it is broadcast.

"The prime use of our system is to insert promotional images into live coverage, or as a post-production application for pre-recorded (TV) shows - for example, to insert branded goods into the action that weren't really there, for product placement," Denny Wilkinson, PVI's chief executive officer, explains. "Advertising, however, has by far and away the biggest potential for this. It's where the money is."

The use of this technology is already becoming familiar in sports coverage. A number of international sports organisers have recognised the potential to generate more advertising revenue by - in effect - re-selling the same perimeter advertising billboards at their stadia. Through virtual imaging, different advertisers' brands can be seen in different countries that take the live broadcast feed.

A number of European broadcasters including Sky TV have already run "virtual advertising" trials. Mexican broadcasters, meanwhile, have fully embraced virtual imaging systems. And different sports - notably Formula 1 - now acknowledge the potential to deal with restrictions on tobacco advertising in certain countries by replacing cigarette branding in some territories with other images.

The use of this technology for editorial purposes however is more contentious. Already, other media owners - notably newspapers - have had to deal with concerns about digitally manipulating photographic images used in news pages. The Mirror's doctoring of photographs of the Princess of Wales and Dodi Fayed holidaying together was perhaps the highest profile example.

Now concern is being voiced over TV viewers believing they can see something which is not actually there. Which is why it is hard to find anyone in UK broadcasting ready to admit that they - like CBS - are considering the potential of this technology beyond advertising. Sky, however, sees the technology's use as a way of enhancing "the look" of its sports coverage. "We use the ORAD system for a combination of editorial and promotional use," explains Phil Madge, Sky TV studio graphics supervisor "We are using it now to build virtual screens which hang down from the roof of various football stadia to highlight upcoming events, pre-recorded footage and Sky Sports promotions."

Sky purchased the system at the start of the current football season, although it had run a number of trials previously, Madge adds. It has been used less for virtual advertising due to a combination of Independent Television Commission restriction and Football Association concerns. However, it was also used by Sky News to create a virtual studio for the channel's millennium coverage.

"There is great potential to use virtual imaging in other ways but it remains a tool whose biggest advantage is for live broadcasting," Madge says. "There are obvious advantages in virtual studios as you don't need a physical set, just a blue screen against which the presenter is shot and a three-D computer model. You can change it over very quickly - there's no need to shift scenery. The downside is it can look quite computer `graphicsy', and a bit naff."

CBS's problems arise from the fact that its use of the PVI system went one step further than "enhancing" the look of its presentation: it tampered with the reality of an actual event it was depicting in a news show, raising the spectre of TV news reporters reporting "live" from around the world when they're actually far closer to home. The broadcaster - which has also used virtual imaging to modify the New York cityscape - defended itself by insisting: "CBS News' internal standards prohibit digital manipulation or other faking of news footage."

However, a CBS spokeswoman admitted that virtual insertion technology is yet to be covered by the broadcaster's guidelines. But Dan Rather, for one, thinks it should be. "At the very least we should have pointed out to viewers we were doing it,'' he told the New York Times. "I did not grasp the possible ethical implications of this and that was wrong on my part.''

CBS is not the only broadcaster to use this technology in news broadcasts. Rival ABC recently included a report on Congress by a reporter wearing an overcoat in front of what to viewers seemed to be the US Capitol. The entire report was taped in a studio.

UK programme makers, however, doubt virtual imaging technology requires guidelines any different to the ones they already have relating to editorial balance, accuracy and fairness. "Any form of factual programme-making involves some form of editing of events. It's not hard to present the same situation in a number of different ways," one documentary maker explains. "But it is up to the integrity of the programme-maker to do so with integrity in a way that is both responsible and accurate. The same approach must apply to any production method."

It is a view which seems to be shared by the ITC, whose guidelines relate to the use of virtual imaging by advertisers - none specifically relate to editorial use. "It is an issue that crosses a number of regulatory areas - it could be a matter of inaccuracy, or undue prominence, or fairness. If it arose, we would have to consider each case on its own merits," a spokeswoman says.

Trouble is, for the time being at least, the onus is on the viewer to draw any example of tampering with reality to the attention of the regulator which then would investigate retrospectively. Assuming, that is, that they realise what they are seeing isn't real.

So before the year 2000, live television could be altered in real time and additions/changes made.

[norman]

Having said all that, I've watched the 20 min video above 5 or more time now and I think i can see signs that the video maker has done a bit of fakery of his own in it.

Yes, I watched the first few minutes then stopped. Clear fakery is all over the place. The side-by-side at 2.01 for example. These are two completely different pieces of footage. The one on the left is the feed from Chopper 4 on the NBC broadcast; on the right, FOX, from a static shot on the Empire State Building. And the plane has been digitally removed from the NBC shot, as it has in many other sequences.

As I've illustrated in several other 9/11 threads, matching a CGI composite and inserting it into a dynamic, moving scene involves a huge amount of technical complexity even today; it requires multiple shots and passes and substantial post-processing to achieve. If you know anything about how CGI works (and I do), it is unconditionally impossible to pull off in a LIVE broadcast, x50 as well (that's how many cameras recorded the second strike), from all those different angles. Actually that's impossible to do today, in 2024, to say nothing of 2001. It's the equivalent of broadcasting, live, a hand-drawn animated scene (no artist can draw that fast!). The 'no planes' theory is absurd: it holds as much water as a bucket of dry sand. And you can take that to the bank!



I could be persuaded that the no planes verdict is insanity but for one very troublesome fact that just will not go away.

It was completely impossible for the planes that hit the towers in New York to have sliced through the buildings as they claim they did.

It's not completely impossible to believe the MSM fooled us, somehow.

That's where I stand on it right now.

[Tintin]

When TV brings you the news as it didn't happen

So before the year 2000, live television could be altered in real time and additions/changes made.

...and a related story that I'd caught about 10 years ago and saved that appeared in the New York Times, about 11 days before the Independent on Sunday story:

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/13/business/cbs-is-divided-over-the-use-of-false-images-in-broadcasts.html

CBS Is Divided Over the Use Of False Images In Broadcasts

By BILL CARTER
Published: January 13, 2000


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Dan Rather, the CBS News anchor, called the decision to superimpose a digitally created CBS logo to block out an NBC-sponsored sign in Times Square during CBS's news coverage of New Year's Eve celebrations ''a mistake'' that he regrets.

''There is no excuse for it,'' Mr. Rather said in a telephone interview today. ''I did not grasp the possible ethical implications of this and that was wrong on my part.''
While he questioned whether CBS should have acted at all to alter the reality of a scene in this way, he said, ''At the very least we should have pointed out to viewers that we were doing it.''

The CBS decision to use a new form of technology that allows electronically created images to replace actual structures had stirred a debate inside CBS News and today -- at news conference attended by Andrew Heyward, the president of CBS News, and Leslie Moonves, the president of CBS Television -- it was clear the debate was not over.

Mr. Heyward, responding to questions about an article on the topic in The New York Times on Wednesday, defended CBS's use of the technology, developed by a firm called Princeton Video Image. The network has regularly used it on its morning news program, ''The Early Show,'' to display a CBS promotion on everything from the back of horse carriages to a side of the General Motors building, where the program originates.

Mr. Heyward said he believed the transmission of the digital images during the morning program was ''a whimsical and creative way to display our logo in various and unlikely places.'' The use during Mr. Rather's coverage in Times Square was, he said, ''a closer call,'' which was made based on his conviction that ''on New Year's Eve with confetti in Dan's hair, I saw this as an extension of our graphics, a change in this very festive, in effect, set.''

He added that Mr. Rather had not been part of the ''internal discussion'' about using the technique and that ''reasonable people could disagree on whether this was an appropriate use of digital technology.''

Mr. Moonves supported Mr. Heyward. ''Anytime there's an NBC logo up on our network we'll block it again,'' he said.

But Mr. Rather, in the phone interview, was steadfast. ''This is a new tool, and we're responsible for how we use it,'' he said. ''I'm not satisfied with how we met our ethical responsibility to viewers.''

He added, ''I'm troubled that this was done.''

Mr. Heyward said there had been ''vigorous debate'' on the use of the technology inside CBS News.

''I'm certain we're not going to make blanket use of this technology,'' he said, but added that the network would definitely continue to use it on its morning news program.

CBS recently poured more than $30 million into remaking that program, but it still lags badly behind in ratings. Mr. Heyward is also dealing with a ratings falloff for Mr. Rather's newscast.

Neither of the other network morning news programs use the Princeton Video Image technology. Jeff Zucker, the executive producer of the ''Today'' program on NBC, said, ''We were offered the same technology and we passed because we didn't think it was appropriate.'' Eileen Murphy, a spokeswoman for ABC News said: ''It's been discussed at length. We wouldn't use it here.''

Still, Mr. Heyward said that on ''The Early Show,'' the anchor Bryant Gumbel had on occasions noted on the air that the digital logo was being superimposed when he thought it was being done in a particularly creative spot.

''If somebody comes to New York and is surprised that it doesn't say 'The Early Show' in the middle of Fifth Avenue, I don't think we've committed a journalism sin,'' Mr. Heyward said. ''I don't want to apologize for being aggressive in exploiting this.''

He said that he understood the argument against the use of the technology -- which is widely employed in sports and some entertainment shows -- on news programs. The danger is ''that it looks too real and therefore it's wrong or potentially wrong,'' he said. ''I certainly agree it's potentially subject to abuse.''

He noted that advances in computer-generated techniques had made things like missiles hitting Baghdad and airplanes crashing look so real that it was incumbent on networks to underscore that these were not real images.

''We're not sitting here rubbing our hands, saying how can we use this again,'' Mr. Heyward said. ''We are not in the deception business, We're in the reality business; we're in the accuracy business. To the extent that this technology interferes with that core belief we're not going to do it. We will absolutely take seriously the use of this tool.''

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

So before the year 2000, live television could be altered in real time and additions/changes made.

Not to this degree. A graphical overlay is a very very far cry from CGI planes on 9/11. One is a simple rotoscope effect, the other involves computer-generated 3D models, that are both moving, have textured surfaces, cast shadows, and specular lighting effects (reflections), are dynamic along all three axes, and, let's not forget, emit (in several clips) the roar of plane engines. These are two completely different technologies, sitting a million miles apart.

If we were talking about one or two or three suspicious clips, broadcast from three separate positions on the ground, coordinated to depict the same moving object, travelling at the same speed, coming in from the same angle, at the same altitude, with identical matching flightpaths, to crash at the same time, at the same spot, then I say categorically NO, they cannot do that with computer-generated models, in a live broadcast in 2001. AT ALL.

But we're not talking two or three clips, we're talking upwards of fifty to sixty.

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What's more, there's no evidence of CGI in these clips. The tools exist for image analysis, and plenty of them these days. Even today's most sophisticated 3D images cast a telltale digital footprint. Something from 23 years ago? There's no chance that's going undetected. Yet no sign or trace of manipulation has been found in any of the 9/11 footage.



He noted that advances in computer-generated techniques had made things like missiles hitting Baghdad and airplanes crashing look so real that it was incumbent on networks to underscore that these were not real images.

Is he talking about live broadcasts here, or in general, like special effects in a movie? If the former, I'd like to see examples of this and put them under the microscope.

The only manipulation I'm aware of, and which is clearly in evidence, are the clips where the plane's been removed, which is incredibly easy to do. This I strongly purport is a counter-intelligence tactic, devised to promote a deliberately misleading narrative (they do it all the time).

In addition to videos there are eye-witnesses. Hundreds and thousands on the ground, who stood and watched it all happen with their naked eyes. One attends this forum - thepainterdoug (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?21016-thepainterdoug), from New Jersey. UA175 crossed over his head moments before it struck the south tower -- he saw it. And yes, many did not. That's due to where they were standing. Anyone on, say, the opposite side of the WTC (or otherwise surrounded by skyscrapers) would not have seen the approach.



It was completely impossible for the planes that hit the towers in New York to have sliced through the buildings as they claim they did.

I don't disagree with that, yet they did. We saw it happen, so obviously it can't be impossible. In this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7543-9-11-Photos-etc.&p=1577068&viewfull=1#post1577068) I present I think a reasonable argument to explain what (may have) transpired.

In summary:
The speed at which these planes were travelling (upwards of 450mph) is actually impossible at sea-level. Flying this fast in such dense air would tear the engines apart, and possibly rip the wings off. That's just a fact. Ergo, UA175 and AA11 aren't what they appear to be. Either they've been enhanced, with superior engines and reinforced airframes, or they're military-grade lookalikes. I believe, personally, this is the most likely scenario. For more on that theory see Bill Ryan's interview with REBEKAH ROTH, 11 September, 2015 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85202-Bill-Ryan-s-interview-with-REBEKAH-ROTH-11-September-2015)

[lake]

So before the year 2000, live television could be altered in real time and additions/changes made.
If we were talking about one or two or three suspicious clips, broadcast from three separate positions on the ground, coordinated to depict the same moving object, travelling at the same speed, coming in from the same angle, at the same altitude, with identical matching flightpaths, to crash at the same time, at the same spot, then I say categorically NO, they cannot do that with computer-generated models, in a live broadcast in 2001. AT ALL.

But we're not talking two or three clips, we're talking upwards of fifty to sixty.

But we are not talking about 50-60 on the day!

As far as I know there are only 5 live broadcasts of the 2nd plane coming in to hit (not actually hitting) on the day!

The images we all saw (over and over) that day of the planes from the TV channels, never showed a plane actually impacting the WTC buildings. The ones replayed all day were of the second plane moving toward the South tower ....

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And only the single video of the first plane hitting which came out after (so was that created after .... as in the addition of a plane for a second)!

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Any other videos/images came later from 'street people' (who made them .... and then who got paid could be a question)?

We also do not know what tech they actually had back then? But we know that they could (and had) changed "live" broadcasts!
But I am certain that it was vastly greater than we think (and likely greater than we currently are allowed to know about)!

Then you have "People" .... well folk will do all the mass formation stuff and the Asch Conformity study shows that humans will repeat what they consider incorrect just to fit in!
So after being bombarded constantly via the media (that reminds me of the last 4 years) on the day and for weeks/months later should we be surprised that so many consider 'planes' did it all?

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Or maybe peoples memories are not so great, especially having been shocked by what happened (I think you said some such about the Mandala Effect but I may very well just be incorrect in my memory lol ).

Most folk interviewed (who actually were real folk) did not mention a plane, just big explosions!

For the record .... I still consider that 2 drones hit WTC 1 & 2 and that the Pentagon was hit by a missile (right in the monies) and Shanksville was a badly constructed bull**** site.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The images we all saw (over and over) that day of the planes from the TV channels, never showed a plane actually impacting the WTC buildings. The ones replayed all day were of the second plane moving toward the South tower ....

Not true, I saw segments on the news that very day that showed the second plane (UA175) impacting the south tower. One was the street level clip shot by Evan Fairbanks. It was in fact the first piece of footage I saw that evening when I got in from work (so around lunchtime EST). It was shown on Sky News.

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And only the single video of the first plane hitting which came out after

Other videos exist. One I've seen was from a camera facing the Hudson (that recorded boating traffic), taking a shot every ten seconds. When stitched together they create a jittery video of the first impact on the north tower and the resulting explosion. And there's this one below, by Pavel Hlava who, while fiddling with his video camera, captured the first impact occurring in the background.

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Any other videos/images came later from 'street people' (who made them .... and then who got paid could be a question)?

That's a lot of people to round up, intimidate, and pay off. And not one has squealed in 23 years. Multi-faceted large-scale conspiracies of this nature, with so many complexities and moving parts cannot, and are not, propped up by members of the public, paid off or otherwise. That's far too much crowd-control to coordinate, with way too many liabilities. It's not how this works.

At this point there's not much more to say. You either believe this, or you believe that, it's all fine with me. :heart:

[lake]

snip ....
Not true, I saw segments on the news that very day that showed the second plane (UA175) impacting the south tower.

But none of what you just posted is a "Live Broadcast" .... which is what we were chatting about Mark ....

There is the fact that 'They' can and do change what they call a live event/broadcast (and have for atleast 25 years) .... Anything promoted AFTER that "Live" broadcast .... .... .... well may have been changed/altered/adapted the same as the "Live" may have been!

I consider that drones were used .... but those did NOT bring down the towers.

ALL which is "broadcast" these days is 90+% a lie .... Was it the same in 2001 and before????

Na, I think it was still lies (propaganda/mis-information/ half truths) .... It is just so much worst now :(

There was .... 5 .... FIVE .... actual "Live Broadcasts" (all potato quality) of a "Plane" coming towards the WTC on the 9th September 2001.

All the rest of the videos ARE after!

Edit to add ....

You state that you viewed it on Sky News .... they got awards for it lol


the channel’s coverage of the September 11, 2001, terror attacks in the United States won a 2002 British Academy of Film and Television Arts (BAFTA) Award for news coverage.

:facepalm:

[Neith]

Thanks so much for this ... I have only just watched Dr Judy Woods presentation of evidence and I thought I'd never have my brain challenged again on 911 but .... damn it she's right, but how can she be? ...Does-not-compute!-arrgghh <brain explodes> ... its nuts but its not nuts because of the evidence ... Really struggling. I don't know enough about physics to say but i know enough to see ...

It is of course possible that initially Thermite (for precision beam breaks) could be used for the 'snuff theatre' presented to us all for mass shock value. But just a controlled demolition could have had catastrophic impact on the value of the real-estate, proximity to the Hudson and risk of cracking the 'bathtub', limitation of damage to anything other than WTC buildings (all of them!).
tried looking for debunking evidence and apart from a rather pathetic straight edge analysis video, I cant find anything ... so its something ... unknown and a little bit ...erm ... terrifying!

i am going to have to lie down and let my head stop spinning ... once seen, I can't un-see it

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks so much for this ... I have only just watched Dr Judy Woods presentation of evidence and I thought I'd never have my brain challenged again on 911 but .... damn it she's right, but how can she be? ...Does-not-compute!-arrgghh <brain explodes> ... its nuts but its not nuts because of the evidence ... Really struggling. I don't know enough about physics to say but i know enough to see ...

It is of course possible that initially Thermite (for precision beam breaks) could be used for the 'snuff theatre' presented to us all for mass shock value. But just a controlled demolition could have had catastrophic impact on the value of the real-estate, proximity to the Hudson and risk of cracking the 'bathtub', limitation of damage to anything other than WTC buildings (all of them!).
tried looking for debunking evidence and apart from a rather pathetic straight edge analysis video, I cant find anything ... so its something ... unknown and a little bit ...erm ... terrifying!

i am going to have to lie down and let my head stop spinning ... once seen, I can't un-see itThanks! Made me laugh :) — and a very warm welcome to the forum. :highfive:

The truth does matter. Very few people are talking about 9/11 these days. And when you look at the videos (for the first time, or the 20th time) — it seems self-evident, at least to me, that all is VERY VERY far from what it superficially seems and what we've all been urged to believe.

(And how about the undamaged Pentagon lawn, the absence of any plane of any kind, and the tiny hole in the wall???? OMG. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:)

[Neith]

The images we all saw (over and over) that day of the planes from the TV channels, never showed a plane actually impacting the WTC buildings. The ones replayed all day were of the second plane moving toward the South tower ....

Not true, I saw segments on the news that very day that showed the second plane (UA175) impacting the south tower. One was the street level clip shot by Evan Fairbanks. It was in fact the first piece of footage I saw that evening when I got in from work (so around lunchtime EST). It was shown on Sky News.

There is a video explaining in detail how the live feed could have had a composite layers added for the 2nd plane, the one we would all 'see' even with the technology of the day. It required helicopters holding as steadily as they could without panning or zooming (I believe one of the helicopter occupants has since been ... er ... suicided, the other aggressively wont talk to anyone(?))

There are also some clips of very insistent emergency workers saying but 'there was no plane why do you keep saying so' other eye witnesses in the confusion could easily be led by a reporter into mentioning the plane please. Then of course you would have to have planted 'actors' in the crowds with the plane script to echo out.

With a truly shocking and graphic and traumatic event like this, the mind is vulnerable as it tries to make sense of what is happening... if the story of a plane is jammed into us early on it is easy for a memory to imprint actually seeing an aeroplane into that memory. To make sense of what was happening.

Plane or no plane the result is the same, its not an argument to get hung up on or we are doing their job for them. A horrific crime was committed and we were stunned enough to have some serious freedoms stolen before we could shake ourselves out of it.

I cannot trust anything i see via a tv or device anymore, technology for fakery has got so much better. If something is going on, its the very first initial eyewitness or reactionary comments that need to be listened to because once the MSM have got their stories together and take control of the narrative.

With utmost respect to you, i mean this with an understanding of how hard it is to change ones mind once its reached its consensus on events.
Peace

[Neith]

hanks! Made me laugh — and a very warm welcome to the forum.

The truth does matter. Very few people are talking about 9/11 these days. And when you look at the videos (for the first time, or the 20th time) — it seems self-evident, at least to me, that all is VERY VERY far from what it superficially seems and what we've all been urged to believe.

(And how about the undamaged Pentagon lawn, the absence of any plane of any kind, and the tiny hole in the wall????

Ha! yes, a little humour stops the crying and the gnashing of teeth and screaming into the wind with fury! Thank you for the welcome ... this is an amazing resource/community of minds and hearts you've built up . Really glad to be here.

I agree - its an unprecedented event of shocking proportions and has set in motion so many tentacles ! Its hard to even know where to begin when I meet someone who still accepts the original narrative and seems oblivious to what impact this is having AND going to have moving forward. I can usually find a chink if i go really gently though ;)
Been re-watching some of the first documentaries and, seeing more than i did before. I had the same spinning head when I stumbled onto 'Loose Change' climbing over that wall of cognitive dissonance in my mind ... because to be frank it was obvious when pointed out and a an unacknowledged gut nagging doubt that something was wrong

Ah yes!! As soon as I posted I thought oh i didn't mention the pentagon.

Pentagon could only have been drone/missile, based on the air traffic controllers seeing the manoeuvre and assuming it was military due to .... er ... that plane couldn't do that because of ... physics! If they hadn't followed it on radar, id be tempted to say strategically placed explosives because the hole in the inner wall is so damn round. and there was 'something' in the two frames we were shown ... But could not have been a plane ... wreckage, bodies, engines, wing span etc.

2nd tower could have been drone but I suspect compositing over a drone with an image of a plane would have been difficult; speed match, people might remember a drone or missile so easier to fill in a blanks in peoples minds etc.So explosives to imply an impacted event, creating holes,

1st tower i would have said no plane or missile not needed as very few would be looking at it, let alone filming it (am I right we hadn't long had camera phones at the time?) Although an interview with a survivor from a meeting that I think he was supposed to die in, said he looked across at the other tower and saw people being 'pulled' out of windows and plane wreckage, he also mentions smelling something like gasoline. He seemed genuine. So I wonder if his memory filled in the blanks after the fact and what he was looking at was a horrifying sight of building wreckage, people screaming yet not moving or desperately trying to hold onto window edges and probably a lot smoke, Or the interviewee was a plant because the picture on his ID from the time was hard to reconcile from the man speaking, even a accounting for age.

I shan't mention the scratch in the field into which a whole aeroplane apparently burred itself!

I was satisfied with the thermite, expertly controlled demolition because i did not know the towers were basically built in the river and hadn't thought of the or just how much weight should have hit the ground and WTF is going on with those cars ? Not a pyroclastic cloud as the cloud didn't burn people ... and those cars were a significant distance away ....
I have no framework for what happened to the building that it wouldn't show significantly on a seismograph and cause beams to curl and to cause damage to far away vehicles like that.
I'm honestly still in a state of 'what, that's just not pos..but ... but but ...what the hell

So here i am again with a brain stretched headache :ROFL::HELP!:

LOL

Thanks

[Johnnycomelately]

(edit to add: post #51)

For the record .... I still consider that 2 drones hit WTC 1 & 2 and that the Pentagon was hit by a missile (right in the monies) and Shanksville was a badly constructed bull**** site.

Hi lake. I am curious as to what you mean by “drone”. In common parlance, it means a remotely controlled aircraft, usually the small multi rotor electric ones or the smallish winged guided ones being used in the Ukraine war.

But F-4 Phantoms and F-16’s have been flown as adversary/target in training exercises, and the kicker is what’s called “Uninterruptable Autopilot”. Iirc. Apparently designed to end-run hijacking attempts.

The speeds and maneuvering are said by some, to be suspect, but I can see a beefed up airframe and digital control assistance doing it. This assumes swapping airframes, but still evokes “planes”. RIP for any souls on the named planes.

It’s like trying to understand the second and third rules of Fight Club.

[Tintin]

Hatzolah (hatzoloh) dispatch release on 9-11

Picked up on this earlier and am just placing it here as a piece of film that may be important, or not at all. Some commentators claim this hatzolah dispatch footage was recorded before the first incident at WTC1, others claim that it was recorded later on that day. I honestly don't have a clue who may be right there as this is the first time I've seen this and I've watched hundreds of videos around 9/11, and many more than once. I don't really know what to make of it to be honest. Is it important, at all? You be the judge.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1797764992105615360/vid/avc1/352x254/kCywRtVEjyCNrC6u.mp4?tag=16

So, a fair bit of conjecture swirling around this from what I've seen so far with nothing really concrete to run with to date. Anyway I've downloaded it and will link to its X url for now:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1797764992105615360/vid/avc1/352x254/kCywRtVEjyCNrC6u.mp4?tag=16

[Hym]

There's not enough time verification in the video to accurately assign the warning as being before the events on 9-11. If the notice came during or after the events, it would not involve any foreknowledge, for which we have troves of evidence.

There are enough proofs already available, digitally, on video, in the sciences, in metallurgy, aerodynamics, etc., etc., to confirm what we all know about the perpetrators and the profiteers involved. I do appreciate the great sacrifices that those of conscience and service to humanity, thus of their own humane judgement at the moments of departure, have made to expose such a turn into the darkness.

There are many histories that will be shared once those who have shared their forewarned experiences are gone. There are many, many of us who cannot reveal what we were told by those who were forewarned until after they have died. We honor their anonymity and trust, and by now we see those life saving forewarnings as being almost mute in comparison to what we have seen, and what we know, and also by the trillions of dollars those who carried out the attacks benefitted from, the deaths of innocent civilians and combatants on all sides notwithstanding.

By then those testimonies will just be further proofs of the preplanning of all aspects of the most recent "Pearl Harbor" attacks, and as such will only be incidental to our understanding, even though every single aspect of the event was carried out entirely by agents of western hedgemonies.

Dig into the diversion of those flights to the air force base west of Boston.

[Kryztian]

Hatzolah (hatzoloh) dispatch release on 9-11

Picked up on this earlier and am just placing it here as a piece of film that may be important, or not at all. Some commentators claim this hatzolah dispatch footage was recorded before the first incident at WTC1, others claim that it was recorded later on that day. I honestly don't have a clue who may be right there as this is the first time I've seen this and I've watched hundreds of videos around 9/11, and many more than once. I don't really know what to make of it to be honest. Is it important, at all? You be the judge.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1797764992105615360/vid/avc1/352x254/kCywRtVEjyCNrC6u.mp4?tag=16



So there are a few Orthodox Jewish communities surrounding New York City. Many of them operate volunteer EMS (Amublance) services that are completely free of charge. I know this because my mother (who isn't Jewish) fell on a sidewalk and was taken to the hospital by one and it was completely free of charge (these days, that would save one over $1,000 dollars). All the people who work on the ambulances are volunteers.

Hatzolah operates several of these services and has one in Manhattan on the Lower East Side (http://leshatzalah.org/), about a 3 mile drive to the World Trade Center. To me this sounds like exactly the confusion that was experienced in the first hour or two after the towers were hit, when we knew something was wrong, but were not sure exactly what it was. At the end of the clip the dispatcher says "Unless PD [Police Department] will give you the okay ...", so this must come from a time where the Police was well aware of what was happening.

Unless there is a way to prove the time that this recording was made, I think it is a rational assumption that this video was taken after the planes hit the towers.

[Hym]

Yes, Kudos to the Hatzoloh services in NYC. They have saved many lives before, during and after 911. The service that was accused of forewarning about the false flag attacks was a cell phone service company in the city, just like those I knew in government employ who were warned to stay away on the day, to cancel appointments, indefinitely.

[norman]

click any section to expand it.

https://t.me/CaptKylePatriots/229826
CaptKylePatriots/229826

[Orph]

Except the Twin Towers were hit with Boing 767's, not 747's. The wingspan of a 767 is 156 feet.

[psikeyhackr]

Greetings,

I am new here so I will apologize from the start for being blunt.

I did a search on: WTC "Conservation of Momentum"

Then: "Conservation of Momentum"

I got Zero hits on both searches.

I do not care about conspiracy theories. The destruction of the Twin Towers constitute an engineering/physics problem.

So where is the relevant data on the building? I downloaded the entire NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. I wanted to know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level of the towers. I attended one of Richard Gage's Dog & Pony shows in May of 2008. I got in line after the show to ask him about it. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head.

I say that even if the airliner impact and fire could cause the top of the North Tower to fall, which l doubt, the top 14% of the structure could not destroy everything below. And certainly not in less than 30 seconds. The falling portion would either arrest or fall down the side.

Of course after Two Decades we have a sociological/education problem.

We have a generation, everyone born since 1996, taught to believe that a 200 ton airliner could totally destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than two hours. But scientists and engineers at NASA do not even ask about the distribution of steel.

[Tintin]

Greetings,

I am new here so I will apologize from the start for being blunt.

I did a search on: WTC "Conservation of Momentum"

Then: "Conservation of Momentum"

I got Zero hits on both searches.

I do not care about conspiracy theories. The destruction of the Twin Towers constitute an engineering/physics problem.

So where is the relevant data on the building? I downloaded the entire NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. I wanted to know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level of the towers. I attended one of Richard Gage's Dog & Pony shows in May of 2008. I got in line after the show to ask him about it. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head.

I say that even if the airliner impact and fire could cause the top of the North Tower to fall, which l doubt, the top 14% of the structure could not destroy everything below. And certainly not in less than 30 seconds. The falling portion would either arrest or fall down the side.

Of course after Two Decades we have a sociological/education problem.

We have a generation, everyone born since 1996, taught to believe that a 200 ton airliner could totally destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than two hours. But scientists and engineers at NASA do not even ask about the distribution of steel.

Welcome aboard :sun:

I collected some information about the tower structures and included the architects drawing blueprints in our library some years ago now.

You can find them here and I hope they can provide some help.


The Tower blueprints: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911/WTC%20Tower%20Blueprints

WTC buildings history and contents: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911/WTC%20buildings%20history%20and%20contents

[Satori]

Greetings,

I am new here so I will apologize from the start for being blunt.

I did a search on: WTC "Conservation of Momentum"

Then: "Conservation of Momentum"

I got Zero hits on both searches.

I do not care about conspiracy theories. The destruction of the Twin Towers constitute an engineering/physics problem.

So where is the relevant data on the building? I downloaded the entire NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. I wanted to know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level of the towers. I attended one of Richard Gage's Dog & Pony shows in May of 2008. I got in line after the show to ask him about it. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head.

I say that even if the airliner impact and fire could cause the top of the North Tower to fall, which l doubt, the top 14% of the structure could not destroy everything below. And certainly not in less than 30 seconds. The falling portion would either arrest or fall down the side.

Of course after Two Decades we have a sociological/education problem.

We have a generation, everyone born since 1996, taught to believe that a 200 ton airliner could totally destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than two hours. But scientists and engineers at NASA do not even ask about the distribution of steel.

May I suggest that you read the following? Written, peer reviewed and published in 2015. Http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf.

[psikeyhackr]

Greetings,

I am new here so I will apologize from the start for being blunt.

I did a search on: WTC "Conservation of Momentum"

Then: "Conservation of Momentum"

I got Zero hits on both searches.

I do not care about conspiracy theories. The destruction of the Twin Towers constitute an engineering/physics problem.

So where is the relevant data on the building? I downloaded the entire NCSTAR1 report by the NIST in 2007 and burned it to DVD. I wanted to know the tons of steel and tons of concrete on each level of the towers. I attended one of Richard Gage's Dog & Pony shows in May of 2008. I got in line after the show to ask him about it. He looked at me like I had grown a 2nd head.

I say that even if the airliner impact and fire could cause the top of the North Tower to fall, which l doubt, the top 14% of the structure could not destroy everything below. And certainly not in less than 30 seconds. The falling portion would either arrest or fall down the side.

Of course after Two Decades we have a sociological/education problem.

We have a generation, everyone born since 1996, taught to believe that a 200 ton airliner could totally destroy a 500,000 ton building in less than two hours. But scientists and engineers at NASA do not even ask about the distribution of steel.

Welcome aboard :sun:

I collected some information about the tower structures and included the architects drawing blueprints in our library some years ago now.

You can find them here and I hope they can provide some help.


The Tower blueprints: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911/WTC%20Tower%20Blueprints

WTC buildings history and contents: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911/WTC%20buildings%20history%20and%20contents


Most of the stories were 12 ft high. So that would be 47 times 12 ft of vertical steel in the core at that level. There are diagrams of the cross sections of the columns in the core all of the way up the building. But the length of horizontal steel on each level should have been about 2 1/2 times as much. How thick was it? Did it vary down the building.


I talked about this with Lon Waters PhD years ago. He had a website about the core columns. He said that he coul not find data on the horizontal beams. This “just look at the blueprints" is nonsense.

We need to know how much mass was hitting how much mass. The NCSTAR1 report does not even specify the total amount of concrete in the towers. I have told people that for years. Someone even told me it was there and that I was just too lazy and stupid to find it. Of course he never provided a quote and specified where it was.

[onawah]

I think the relevant info can be found somewhere here:Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
https://www0.ae911truth.org/
Though I couldn't say precisely where....

[psikeyhackr]

May I suggest that you read the following? Written, peer reviewed and published in 2015. Http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf.

I do not see any relevant information in that.

I am looking at this strictly from a physics perspective.

The Conservation of Momentum had to affect the collapse time of the North Tower.

Suppose we could create a perfect computer simulation of the North Tower.
Then raise the top 20 stories 64 feet and drop it. What would happen?

The bottom of the 91st level would impact the top of the 90th level at 64 ft/sec or 43.6 mph.

There shouldn't be very much difference between adjacent levels so they should destroy each other about equally and slow down the falling mass. Then 89 and 92 duke it out and the differences start to increase. The levels get lighter and weaker above 91 and stronger and heavier below 89. So even if the falling mass could destroy levels in a 3 to 1 ratio that would destroy 60 stories and leave 30 standing.

Of course we know that did not happen.

So how has the academia of the nation that put men on the Moon allowed this scientific anomaly to drag on for Two Decades?

I call it the Twin Towers Affair after the Galileo Affair.

[psikeyhackr]

https://psikeyhackr.livejournal.com/1276.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT4BXIpdIdo

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1816683801868665143

1816683801868665143


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@TheWakeninq
Breaking News Alert: Newly discovered footage of the 9/11 attacks has emerged after 23 years. Uploaded by Kei Sugimoto, this video captures never-before-seen angles of the collapse of the World Trade Center.

The footage reveals controlled demolition explosions during the towers’ fall, providing unique perspectives that were not previously captured from the South or East of the towers.


old video but still relevant

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1816816779617861857

1816816779617861857

[Dumpster Diver]

A little bit of personal data:

When I worked in Las Vegas, I got to talk to one of the folks who dropped the old Vegas Hotels with charges: he claimed that, at best, it is a 1/10 chance a tall slender building can fall within its own footprint. He talked about how tough it is to wire a hotel, and set charges so that an implosion will not damage other structures. He went on to say he thought the chance was between 1/10 to 1/100, and probably closer to 1/100. Now, taking the higher number, 1/10, and multiplying it over the 3 buildings which fell within their own footprint that day, you get 1/10*1/10*1/10 = 1/1000 chance of that happening “by chance.”

On the Pentagon: I once worked in the very same “slice” that was hit by a 9/11 “aircraft”. That section had recently been renovated (and hardened) to withstand terrorist car-bombs (which was believed to be the biggest threat). I know (since I worked in that same section) a highly classified Navy SCIF was located deep in that section and yet was destroyed by the impact. The SCIF’s walls were steel-reinforced concrete. Now, I have also worked on weapons effects and the only way anything would penetrate so deep to take out the SCIF was if it was one of our “bunker buster” weapons…i.e. an impacting aircraft would simply splash the outside of the building and perhaps penetrate a few feet into the reinforced outside of the newly refinished section. Also, as part of the terrorist “improvements” every part of the Pentagon is covered by multiple video cameras, both inside and outside. You can’t do anything outside that building without 3-5 cameras catching your movements…and yet not a single frame of video exists of an impacting airplane…or anything else.

I think that SCIF held important info. Unfortunately, I never got entry into that SCIF as my clearance, at the time, was not high enough, nor was I working a Navy project.

…so, nothing “provable”… just a few viewpoints.

[Rizotto]

"Newly revealed footage of the 9/11 attacks confirms what we've already reported that planes did not bring down the twin towers. Ted Walter is the Executive Director of the \International Center for 9/11 Justice and he joins us to discuss these latest details."

BOMBSHELL NEW FOOTAGE OF 9/11 ATTACKS CONFIRMS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF TOWERS | Redacted News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhKtflg4Fo

[ExomatrixTV]

https://archive.org/download/youtube-AYDFXIyiJKI/AYDFXIyiJKI.mp4


download mp4 (https://archive.org/download/youtube-AYDFXIyiJKI/AYDFXIyiJKI.mp4)

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[thepainterdoug]

Well, another 9/11 will pass. There is still much being pursued and ground being made by various people in the truther field today. Building 7, will not wash. It makes no sense and even smart people, educated normies are slowly coming around.
Admitting being wrong, very hard for people.

I want to share my tribute, an original painting to a first responder, a friend Larry, who put himself in peril in the rubble and then was overlooked by gov, and to those lost, my friend Kevin , and all others that day sacrificed for a fabricated war.



"First Responders", oil on canvas 24x30. dauld

[ExomatrixTV]

911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!: Names, Connections, Motives, 911Matrix of Details Exposed!

CdE1Cwnymzc
almost 1,000,000 views

[ExomatrixTV]

Jimmy Dore: 9/11 still matters!:

VeSYNDwbyVA

[Akasha]

Truth still matters 23 years later. If anything, more.

[Rizotto]

Question for you all about 9/11. The WTC buildings had withstood the planes crashes quite well, but then suddenly crumble in about 10 seconds each as they also explode outwards and upwards. This would be one of the most significant evidence of pre-planted explosives in the building. But videos of the 10 second collapse seemed to have been suppressed from MSM TV networks after 9/11. My question: when exactly did you become aware that the buildings collapsed within 10 seconds?

As far as I know, the videos of the buildings' 10 seconds collapse were played on MSM TV networks only that day, September 11, 2001. I was out in the bush for a week at that time, so I never saw those videos. When I came back to town, the world had changed, and every TV network played non-stop the videos of the planes crashing into the buildings with huge fireballs. For months afterward, I never saw any videos on TV of the buildings crumblings in 10 seconds.

In fact, I never even knew FOR YEARS after 9/11 that the buildings had actually collapsed in 10 seconds. Not until I saw a video years later of a 9/11 witness noting with astonishment that the buildings had crumbled within 10 seconds. That really tweaked my interest, how could that be possible. And thus my journey of researching 9/11 began.

Obviously there has been a concerted effort at high levels and the MSM to fool the public after 9/11 by only playing on TV the spectacular plane crash videos, but suppressing the videos of the 10 second buildings collapse and witnesses' reports of explosions. (I wasn't on the internet in those days, fact is internet was just beginning in my part of the world.)

When I discovered this 'omission' and had a chance to view on independent channels the many videos of the collapse, I tried describing to friends the buildings' 10 second collapse. They simply didn't believe me, were uninterested to view the evidence, and started to avoid me. By the way, they're also the same people who unquestioningly followed the covid mandates and took the clot shots. But I digress.

We can't underestimate the power of the media in altering our perception of reality. Here's a couple of videos of the 10 second collapse, just to drive the point.

9/11: The Towers Collapse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWCDA09XFT0

David Chandler's - The North Tower exploding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D9nV5Bj2qY

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The Corbett Report's "9/11: A Conspiracy Theory" is, as one of the comments below points out, one of the most deleted videos on Youtube. And the most watched when it's available. The original racked up millions and millions of views before Corbett's whole channel was taken down. Occasionally, it pops up again on random channels unaffiliated with the Corbett Report, like the one below.

Get it while it's hot and before it's deleted.

Corbett's original 4min 55 second video that hits like an eighteen-wheel truck.

"9/11: A Conspiracy Theory"
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[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1797339900586721287

1797339900586721287


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@KAGdrogo
Israeli did 9/11

Israeli “Art students" inside WTC before 9/11 working with detonators on the 91st Floor. Why?

Their project was called B Thing

They were photographed with BB18 fuse holders

Majority were miIitary inteI, eIectronic signaI intercept or expIosive ordinance units



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@KAGdrogo
The “Dancing Israelis” also worked for “Urban Moving Systems” and were driving one of their vans when they were detained for questioning on 9/11 after being seen celebrating the first plane hitting the WTC

One of the them had lived next door to the main hijacker, Muhammed Atta.

https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1798369991018062140

1798369991018062140


₭₳₲ ĐⱤØ₲Ø🇺🇸
@KAGdrogo
The 9/11 ‘Dancing Israelis’

-Israeli men were seen filming, laughing & celebrating the fall of the WTC towers

-FBI report confirms 2 of them were MOSSAD operatives

-They all had immediate travel plans to leave the country

-They failed lie detector tests & got caught lying repeatedly.

-Their moving co. was utilized 👉by one of the alleged 9/11 hijackers.
👉 (Some even lived nextdoor to one of the hijackers, Muhammad Atta.)

-FBI report confirms that one of them had been selected to attend a [redacted] for an entity called the “Jewish Agency.”

-The “Jewish Agency” has on its board of governors, the same Jewish billionaire that suspiciously loaned a $ 1/4 million to the Police Commissioner who met with him in Israel just prior to 9/11 (and helped cover up the events with Bush Jr.)

There’s so much more.

One of them apparently cherished the day so much he was married on 9/11 a year later.

See the full 5hr documentary here: https://rumble.com/v2mf0x0-the-empire-unmasked-the-documentary-911-and-beyond.html

Follow the creator of this film, @RyLiberty, and if you can, support his givesendgo to remake the full 5hr film: https://givesendgo.com/911

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>>613129
What about Awan.
Is ISRAEL involved?
>>613193
We are saving ISRAEL for last.
Very specific reason not mentioned a single time.
Q

ARE WE NOW CLOSE TO UNDERSTANDING the ISRAELI Connection? Here are some ideas. NAZI'S , the UKRAINE BIOLABS, Ancient Technology? ISRAEL. 9/11 invasion of IRAQ. Sorcery?
This is a complicated subject and with so much at risk INTERNATIONALLY at this time the education PROCESS must begin so when this happens ... we have told you the BASICS of why. EVERYTHING THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS TRUTH... IS LIES. This short 17:00 Program explains how since the 50's the programs that were "trusted" and that the "MSM" made look as completely NORMAL.. WERE NOT.
How Reagan and Ollie North and Maxwell and other prominent names in the news for YEARS are now not referenced in the ISRAELI corruption story? Are all ISRAELI'S Bad? Of course not.
This INTERNATIONAL Group were a part of our "everyday" lives. We consumed their product, we bought their script, we funded their programs with our State, Local and National TAXES !! WE BUILT THEIR FACILITIES, WE BECAME THEIR SLAVES. We USED the PROMIS SOFTWARE that had a backdoor into our principle BIOLAB in Los Alamos NM. Juan worked on some of these projects as an investigator for the White Hats back then. https://themillenniumreport.com/2019/10/the-octopus-inslaw-promis-software-scandal-and-those-killed-by-its-tentacles/
http://www.thestacksreader.com/the-strange-death-of-danny-casolaro-ron-rosenbaum/

This is why Juan is now calling them out for what they are.. and here in this program are all the bullet points.. This is the story of how Deep the Deep State is controlling most of what has happened in our past including 9/11 .. with Democrats and Republicans ALIKE with certain persons like Jeffery Epstein who ran huge criminal enterprises. I have below some programs that go into DEPTH on these topics. Today is the THREE YEAR anniversary of EPSTEIN'S "death". Did he kill himself? Was Israel involved? Do we have direct connections back to this? The interweaving of the OCTOPUS. Follow this as best you can.. because so much of this is the DEEP STATE PLAN.. and why it is taking SO LONG.

Dark Journalist with Joseph Farrell and the PROMIS Software:
https://youtu.be/AspQoIEuYnM FASCIST INTERNATIONAL STATE. Part ONE.
Farrell outlines 9/11 as a three-level operation comprised of 1). The infamous "19 hijackers", who were used as patsies by elements inside the 2). National Security State (the group that is commonly the focus of non-mainstream 9/11 research) and 3). A coalition of forces, which developed after the defeat of Germany in World War II, which is a powerful but clandestine remnant of the eugenicist Nazi Party. This group is global and not relegated solely to Germany, by any means.

After WWII, this group continued to work behind the scenes, involving themselves in secretive, criminal activities, from drug-running to the development of the The Bilderberg Group, to a secret system of finance, which laundered the proceeds from the sale of stolen Nazi assets. Today, it functions to processes the black market-derived income that funds their activities.

As is generally acknowledged in the Independent Media, this group infiltrated the intelligence agencies of the US, NASA and it has sympathizers in the Military Industrial Complex. This group also played a major role in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

https://youtu.be/QDKDLWI0NS8 9/11 AND TESLA DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS.. Part TWO.
EXOTIC TECHNOLOGY
In researching the many anomalies of the Pentagon attack and the take down of Flight 93 in Pennsylvania, Farrell discovered witnesses who described some perplexing features in their testimony, such as Flight 77 appearing to “melt" instead of crash into the building. Others described a missile with wings attached and some claimed they only saw an explosion with no plane visible! He also refers to photos that show almost no debris on the Pentagon lawn and the appearance of just a small hole at the crash site, hardly enough of a footprint for a major crash of an airliner.

Farrell also found that the same Swedish cleanup company that was remodeling the Pentagon before 9/11 was granted the contract to restore the damaged areas of the building complex and bizarrely to also handle all of the cleanup activities at the World Trade Center. The company donned nuclear protocol suits while they were working to clear the unusually small amount of debris at the major crash sites.

Farrell further investigates one of the main witnesses that has been put under embargo not to testify or be questioned named Frank Probst. A retired Army officer and Pentagon employee, Probst provided contradictory testimony, but his story of watching the plane fly into the Pentagon and having to jump out of the way became the foundation of the official story. In addition, he was somehow in a position to corroborate every major point of the narrative. Digging into his past, Farrell traces his background and expertise to being involved with the remote operation of airliners, raising major concerns about the crash being manipulated from the ground.

https://youtu.be/yn0j5DVBd3s AFTERMATH DEEP STATE DISINFO - 9/11 & ROGUE NETWORKS! Part THREE.



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[Bill Ryan]

Israeli did 9/11And there's every motivation for them to have done so. Israel then — as now — wanted to pull the US into an all-out war against any Arab state they possibly could. (And they largely succeeded, of course.)

[Bill Ryan]

911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!: Names, Connections, Motives, 911Matrix of Details Exposed!

CdE1Cwnymzc
almost 1,000,000 viewsThere's a LONG LONG list of very valuable references below the video, which are hard to copy here as they're all truncated unless one manually clicks through the YouTube auto-redirects.

It's probably a full half-hour project to list them all here, but for serious researchers this is a real treasure trove of info.

[lake]

911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!: Names, Connections, Motives, 911Matrix of Details Exposed!

CdE1Cwnymzc
almost 1,000,000 viewsThere's a LONG LONG list of very valuable references below the video, which are hard to copy here as they're all truncated unless one manually clicks through the YouTube auto-redirects.

It's probably a full half-hour project to list them all here, but for serious researchers this is a real treasure trove of info.

I haven't checked the links .... but this is a start??

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Was 9/11 really an Inside Job? After reviewing this documentary, and checking the evidence, I think the answer will be clear to you.

Special thanks to Michael C. Ruppert, Mark H. Gaffney, and Kevin Ryan for solving the crimes of 9/11 with their amazing research. This video is a compilation of evidence they have uncovered.

"Crossing the Rubicon" - The Decline of American Empire at the end of the age of oil

http://fromthewilderness.com << https://archive.org/details/crossingrubicond0000rupp/mode/2up

"Black 911" by Mark H. Gaffney:

http://goo.gl/zFiik

Was 9/11 an Inside Job?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20521.htm <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20080822033941/http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20521.htm

A guide to 9/11 Whistleblowers

http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100305_911_whistleblowers.htm

Project Hammer http://decryptedmatrix.com/live/bushs-project-hammer/

WTC 6

http://www.whale.to/b/wtc_6_h.html

SEC Act Section 12(k)2:

http://www.sec.gov/rules/other/34-44791.htm

Richard Grove's testimony (complete transcript)

http://www.freewebs.com/abigsecret/grove.html <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20060719190635/http://www.freewebs.com/abigsecret/grove.html

"Collateral Damage" by E.P. Heidner

http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/Collateral-Damage-911-black_eagle_fund_trust.pdf

The CIA's forty-year complicity in the narcotics trade by Alfred W. McCOY

http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/facstaff/davis_r/fallout.htm <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20010628132944/http://www.cob.sjsu.edu/facstaff/davis_r/fallout.htm

Executive Order 12333 created an agreement between the CIA and Justice Department (DEA) to look the other way on Government Drug Trafficking:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12333-2008.pdf

AIG and Drug Money

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/part_2.html <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20021015080553/http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/part_2.html

Maurice Greenberg's report for the CFR

http://www.fas.org/irp/cfr.html

Richard Armitage, Frank Carlucci, Herbert Winokur, and company

http://digwithin.net/2012/04/08/911-as-a-sequel-to-iran-contra/

Post 9/11 Promotions:

http://goo.gl/J5C4z

9/11 Gold Theft and other smoking guns:

http://911review.org/Wget/Killtown/9_11-Smoking-Guns.html <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20071221154954/http://911review.org/Wget/Killtown/9_11-Smoking-Guns.html

http://killtown.911review.org/oddities.html#February26,1993-WTC_gold <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20070104081251/http://killtown.911review.org/oddities.html#February26,1993-WTC_gold

Kevin Ryan's landmark article on who had "Demolition access to the WTC Towers":

Tenants:

http://www.911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition_access_p1.html

Security:

http://www.911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition_access_p2.html

Convergence:

http://www.911review.com/articles/ryan/carlyle_kissinger_saic_halliburton.html

Clean Up:

http://www.911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition_access_p4.html

Kevin R. Ryan, et al, Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence for energetic materials, The Environmentalist, Volume 29, Number 1 / March, 2009, http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/ <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20081114174414/http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/

Kevin R. Ryan, The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nanothermites, Journal of 9/11 Studies, July 2008, http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and_Nano-1.pdf

Website for In-Q-Tel, http://www.iqt.org/technology-portfolio/index-by-practice-area.html <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20080422201454/https://www.iqt.org/technology-portfolio/index-by-practice-area.html

Wikipedia page for Jerome Hauer, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Hauer

Peter Jennings interview with Jerome Hauer, ABC, on 9/11, 14:53, available on You Tube, https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0Rz9ZsDAg

Taku Murakami, US Patent 5532449 - Using plasma ARC and thermite to demolish concrete, http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5532449/description.html <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20090429085052/http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5532449/description.html

Albert Gibson et al, Integral low-energy thermite igniter, US Patent number: 4464989, http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=rKl1AAAAEBAJu0026dq=US+4464989

Michael C. Ruppert, Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly into the CIA's Highest Ranks, October 9, 2001, http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20030207144729/http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_krongard.html

Kevin R. Ryan, Mahmud Ahmed's itinerary from his Washington DC visit the week of 9/11, 911blogger.com, 11/27/2009, http://www.911blogger.com/node/21978

The agreement between LLNL and Savannah River can be found here - https://www.llnl.gov/str/News597.html

Savannah's reference to developing sol-gels can be found here - http://srnl.doe.gov/mat_sci.htm <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20001205005800/https://www.llnl.gov/str/News597.html

SEC document for Washington pre-payments - http://www.secinfo.com/dRqWm.4G1Vx.c.htm

The Ties That Bind, Descended from family business empires, six huge business groups dominate the Japanese economy, Multinational Monitor, October 1983 - http://multinationalmonitor.org/hyper/issues/1983/10/ties.html

Securacomm Consulting Inc. v. Securacom Incorporated, United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, January 20, 1999, 49 U.S.P.Q.2d 1444; 166 F.3d 182, http://altlaw.org/v1/cases/1099498 <<< https://web.archive.org/web/20081011040246/http://altlaw.org/v1/cases/1099498

Wikipedia page for Stratesec, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratesec

SEC filing for Stratesec, May 2, 1997, http://www.secinfo.com/dS7kv.82.htm

Kroll Inc website, http://kroll.com/about/ <<< not found!

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John's tip: http://911Matrix.whynotnews.eu

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[ExomatrixTV]

September 11, 2001 - Conspiracy Theory BANNED ON YOUTUBE!:

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[ExomatrixTV]

John's tip: http://911Matrix.whynotnews.eu

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site is not active anymore (sorry)

archived: archive.org/web/20121125025057/http://911matrix.whynotnews.eu (https://web.archive.org/web/20121125025057/http://911matrix.whynotnews.eu/)

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Kryztian]

My question: when exactly did you become aware that the buildings collapsed within 10 seconds?


That morning I had been listening to music on the radio at home just before leaving for work. The music was interrupted for an announcement about a plane hitting the World Trade Center. I imagined a small private plane hitting the tower and breaking some glass. When I got to work twenty minutes later, my office mate, who love sensational news stories and loved sensationalizing them, told me "you know, a plane the World Trade Center" in a very emotional voice and a very heavy German accident. I calmly replied "Oh, I already heard" as if these was not a significant story, much to her irritation. A few minutes later she replied that a second plane hit. I thought perhaps she was misinterpreting what she heard on the news. I did some of my work and then thought I should check cnn.com for a more reliable level headed source of news than my co-worker. (What an idiot I was then :ROFL:) This was in the days of dial up internet, and I had a lot of technical difficulties and didn't get much info. Probably their site was overloaded for information requests so all I really saw after much time waiting for info to download was a headline, that confirmed to me that this was more than just a local story, and that perhaps there had been a terror attack.

I picked up and called a friend who live in midtown Manhattan 3½ miles from World Trade Center. He was in a highrise building and if you stood right by the living room window and looked off to the side, you could see the towers. There was a new high rise being built across the street and that would have obscured his view of the towers, and he complained that he would be loosing it in a few weeks - well that happened faster than anyone could have expected. He confirmed that one of the towers was gone and there was tons of smoke. "Gone?" I asked. I though perhaps it had started to tip to one side, there there might have been a weak point in the steel structure and that it started to bend. As we were talking, the second tower came down. I could believe that the towers could be destroyed, but I could not comprehend that they would collapse in just a few second into their own footprint. I asked if the building fell to one side, and he replied, no it came straight down in just a few seconds. I knew something about civil engineering, and I had watched the construction of buildings and I knew that just couldn't happen unless the all the steel became weak in many places at the same time, as in a planned implosion. I thought about this at work all day long, as I tried to process other stories that came through over the radio, including a story of several terrorist who were arrested (which turned out to be misleadingly labeled "the five dancing Israelis (https://thegrayzone.com/2021/09/11/dancing-israelis-9-11-plotters-spies-scam-artists/)".)

I got home early in the late afternoon and turned on the Television, because I really did want to see with my own eyes what had happened. I turned on CNN and witnessed the two towers collapsing, near the rate of free fall, just like in a planned building implosion. I then thought that my thoughts about falling buildings were wrong and that my knowledge of physics, mechanics, structural engineering were all faulty. Why should I distrust the "experts" on the media on this one? It took many years for my faith in the media, in politicians, in academia, to erode to the point where I could question this.

Many years leader I came to learn that the construction of the World Trade center buildings was very different from that of most high rise buildings. Usually, there are steel beam that come close to the exterior of the building, and more steel even space between those beams, they are placed both horizontally and vertically. In the World Trade building however, the beams were mostly placed in the center of the building, with some horizontal beams extending to the exterior shell (a very different structure) of the building. While the WTC stood for about 3 decades, this construction style was not reproduced - I presume because it was discovered this type of construction was not as successful in praxis as it was in theory. I realized that how I envisioned the building should have collapsed, if it were a natural event, was wrong. Now I believe that if the building did naturally collapse because of an accident, fires, heat, etc., that the exterior of the building could have fallen first, and the steel structure concentrated at the center of the building should have remained. But I am no expert and have to defer to them, but to the honest experts over at Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth (https://www.ae911truth.org/) not to the fake ones on CNN.

I think a common component in mass conspiracies like this, is that these events happen in broad daylight so that some of us will have one explanation and others, another, so that we will be divided and not be able to agree what really happened, and while we are busy quarreling about these details, the criminals slither away. To avoid this from happening, we should focus with the best and clearest pieces of incriminating evidence. The question of how and why building 1 and 2 fell, and how they should have fallen in the case of an extreme accident or attack (which would probably take a lot more than an airplane hitting them) is quite interesting, but shouldn't be our focus if we are trying to solve the crime. Instead, we should focus on building 7, which also fell at our near the speed of freefall, even though it was not hit by much more than some falling debris from the other towers.

[ExomatrixTV]

911Truth Anniversary Docu Trailer - Dutch 🇳🇱 Subtitles September 11, 2011:

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[ExomatrixTV]

9/11 20th+ Anniversary Verse by Check The Evidence (Poems4Truth):

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[Eric J (Viking)]

This video displays some video evidence that would tend to reduce the believability of the story of September 11, 2001. The fact that an aluminum and plastic airplane could crash through structural steel is simply unbelievable. Then that jet fuel and office furniture fires could weaken the structure to the point of collapse is laughable. The hottest you would get with these fuel sources in the most perfect conditions would be 1800 degrees Fahrenheit. This is over 1000 degrees short of the melting point of steel. The is not a weakening temperature. Steel that this temperature is quite solid. Then there is WTC 7. A 47 story high rise about 300 feet from the North tower. It was not hit by a plane. It was not significantly impacted by the falling debris of the Twin Towers. It simply had some office fires, yet it "collapsed" at 5:47PM on 9-11. It fell at near free fall speed. To do this, literally every bit of structure that made the building stand, would have to fail at the same time. It takes extremely precise charges and precuts of the support structure to make a building fall in this manner. We are expected to believe that 3 buildings achieved this highly improbable "perfect storm" of conditions to fall straight down into their footprint that day. Something that had never happened before and never happened since and it happened to 3 buildings on this one day, in. this one place. Call me a cynic but I don't buy it.

Also please tell me how the cone of the plane can pass through that building and appear to be unscathed…am I missing something.

https://old.bitchute.com/video/WJmXfSuCZYhz/


https://old.bitchute.com/video/WJmXfSuCZYhz/

[ExomatrixTV]

The 9/11 Hijacking Myth is Being EXPOSED starts 52:43 in the video:

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

September 11, 2001 - Conspiracy Theory BANNED ON YOUTUBE!:

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In case you missed it, scroll up to post 81 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119479-9-11-Truth-Still-Matters-Over-20-Years-Later&p=1633242&viewfull=1#post1633242).

[onawah]

9/11 - Dick Cheney is a mass murderer.
He directed the events of 9-11
Targeted Justice, Inc.
Sep 11, 2024
https://targetedjustice.substack.com/p/911-dick-cheney-is-a-mass-murderer?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=p7227&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

(This is from the newsletter for Targeted Justice which publishes information specifically for Targeted Individuals )

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"Dick Cheney is an unrepentant war criminal and a monster. He directed and ordered the events of 9-11.

What Really Happened?
1. Vice President Dick Cheney gave the orders for the CIA and Air Force Space Command to destroy the World Trade Center and hit the Pentagon with a cruise missile on 9-11. Confirmed by Dr Morgan Reynolds, who worked in the White House as an economics advisor during 2001. To this day, he is still a Professor Emeritus at Texas A & M University. He testified in a lawsuit in 2006. Dick Cheney gave the orders, and then gave the orders to cover it up, in the months following. If the Professor had lied about any of his testimony - he would have been fired for ethics violations.

https://NoMoreGames.net/

2. Dr Judy Wood (DrJudyWood.com) describes how an advanced laser weapon system was used to destroy the towers. The cookie-cutter holes show how the towers were brought down and the material was turned into dust, mid-air.

https://www.drjudywood.com/wp/presentations/

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03ede28f-1e55-4579-b2eb-8acfd5d00f33_332x301.jpeg

Figure 63 from DrJudyWood.com - Note the "cookie-cutter" holes made by a Laser. These holes are about 30 feet (9 meters) in diameter. This is an aerial photograph of the World Trade Center taken shortly after 9-11.

http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam4.html

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F899ce59e-2118-48a2-961c-89d613f1645a_1265x433.jpeg

Figure 37 from DrJudyWood.com - Note how the vertical steel beams rapidly turn into dust. Not caused by burning jet fuel. These steel I-beams were more than 700 feet tall and 2 inches thick, next to the American Express Building. Rapid-aging turns the steel into dust, almost instantly, when hit with the super infrared laser. The infrared laser does not use visible light. This infrared laser satellite weapon was operated by the Air Force Space Command from Schriever Air Force Base on 9-11-2001.

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam3.html

3. Dick Cheney is the former Director of the Targeting Program, funded thru the CIA.

4. Richard B. Cheney is a member of the corrupt Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

https://www.cfr.org/membership/roster

5. Dick Cheney ran the CIA for many years, as the senior member of the Majestic 12 Committee, which has higher security clearances than the President of the US.

6. The super laser weapon technology was likely developed by Dr Harold Putoff, as a CIA laser scientist in 1992 - 93. He is now President of EarthTech (EarthTech.org) in Austin, Texas. The super laser weapon was built and tested on the Oklahoma City Federal Building in 1995. DrJudyWood.com has comparative pictures. Hal must be very proud of his work!

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00787r000100220005-4

Putoff has stated that zero-point energy may be generated by radiation from 'quantum fluctuations.' Wrong. It is a pure mathematical calculation of harmonics, and a manipulation of the laser frequency to trigger it.

https://earthtech.org/pubs/puthoff/

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001200300004-3.pdf

7. The super laser weapon operates at a harmonic of the Lighthouse Frequency, in the infrared spectrum. The laser beam is not visible. It does not burn material - it rapidly ages the atoms and molecules, which creates the massive dust seen in the videos. This satellite weapon is still in orbit today.

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F427aed67-6630-4613-964c-45f053162944_853x763.gif

8. This same technology is used from MQ-9 drones and satellites, on a smaller scale, to start wildfires in Hawaii, California, Canada, Greece, etc.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_pacific/2021-09-27/air-force-mq-9-reaper-drones-marine-base-hawaii-3046332.html

9. Dr Sue Arrigo, MD describes some of the horrific acts of Dick Cheney. She was forced to work with him, while she was a CIA Operative, and believes that Cheney placed her into the targeting program because she refused to do more criminal work for him.

http://whale.to/a/arrigo_h.html

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadf769d9-439e-49c6-b17d-dad83d047ac8_246x325.jpeg

10. Public records:
Richard Bruce Cheney, 83 (alias Richard Confidential, Gene Cahill) RCheney@cia.gov

4205 W Greens Place (Zillow.com = $10.1 million)
Wilson, WY 83014
mailing address - 3465 N. PINES WAY, STE. 104, #211, Wilson, WY 83014

wife - Lynne, 2 daughters; Elizabeth L., 56 and Mary C., 54

PUBLIC RECORDS:
https://www.fastpeoplesearch.com/name/richard-cheney_wyoming
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe78bd020-eba4-4fde-8e69-443e8f91e08d_922x912.jpeg

A) If you lost a loved one on 9-11, is it appropriate to write the Cheney family and let them know how you feel?
B) If you work for Naval Intelligence, is it appropriate to write the Cheney family and ask why he targeted Naval Intelligence at the Pentagon on 9-11?
C) If you are a Targeted Individual, is it appropriate to write the Cheney family and let them know how you feel?

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https://rumble.com/user/RealTargetedJustice

Targeted Justice ​
P.O. Box 15990
Houston, TX 77220

*contains opinions of Targeted Justice. Opinions are a form of Protected Speech.

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[onevoice]

New video of twin towers falling, not seen before on X. It shows the first tower falling really fast.
https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1816564408480419851
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[onawah]

Architect Reveals Latest Bombshell 9/11 Revelations!
WeAreChange
9/11/24
108K followers

Segment about 911 and live call with Richard Gage, head of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth in the second part of this video (the first is a discussion with Mark Dice.)
I watched the live 911 footage on TV on the day it happened with videos from eye witnesses. The "official" reports from the next few days did not add up at all, and that was the day I began jumping down rabbit holes online and became an official conspiracy theorist.
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[ExomatrixTV]

The 9/11 Conspiracy - What Is The Best Evidence?:

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ic911.org/journal/articles/a-plausibility-probe-of-9-11-and-covid-19-as-structural-deep-events (https://ic911.org/journal/articles/a-plausibility-probe-of-9-11-and-covid-19-as-structural-deep-events/)
ae911truth.org/evidence/technical-articles (https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/technical-articles)

[mountain_jim]

copying this brief summary here


This a a key component of my sentiment (and I was researching and discovering the facts of this years before Project Avalon existed.)

https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1834064421913772412

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@KAGdrogo
The only suspects arrested on 9/11 were Israeli

5 ‘Dancing Israelis’ were arrested after seen celebrating the WTC attack

2 were confirmed M0SSAD

They drove vans from the same ‘Urban Moving Systems’ co. as Israelis who were arrested with vans packed full of expIosives on 9/11

Two of them lived next door to one of the alleged high jackets Muhammed Ata

Ex M0SSAD agent and counter terrorism advisor to U.S. Congress, Juval Aviv, confirmed that Urban Moving Systems was a M0SSAD front company

The owner of Urban Moving Systems fled to lsraeI and was never investigated

Many more Israelis were arrested for spying, but all were quietly deported even after failing lie detector tests. The two confirmed M0SSAD agent Dancing Israelis failed lie detector tests after refusing to take one for 10 weeks

There is so much more to this, like Larry Silverstein, the Israeli “art students” and it was all covered up with the help of traitors in our G0V

It wasn’t just an inside job

Israel did 9/11

updated

https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1833874529493647658

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@KAGdrogo
On 9/11, the FBl arrested 2 Israeli men on the George Washington Bridge with a van packed full of expIosives

The van was the same company “Urban Moving Systems” as the infamous ‘Dancing Israelis’ seen photographing/celebrating the fall of the WTC

We never hear about this

Why?




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXKsQusXUAA4jPj?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://x.com/Lukewearechange/status/1833880911949005230

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https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1833979128749719764

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[WhiteFeather]

If I may... Sorry if this was posted prior. Staggering Video. It's been washed from YouTube.

https://rumble.com/v1qce28-9-11-in-plane-site-documentary.html
(https://rumble.com/v1qce28-9-11-in-plane-site-documentary.html)v1nq8au

[mountain_jim]

If I may... Sorry if this was posted prior. Staggering Video. It's been washed from YouTube.

https://rumble.com/v1qce28-9-11-in-plane-site-documentary.html

A compelling documentary showing real world evidence about the events on September 11th, 2001

Hosted by Dave VonKleist

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[Tintin]

This piece of footage still hugely resonates and it's some wonder that she had survived at all up to that point. Extraordinary. Perhaps she'd made her way down or up from another floor :flower:

Edna Cintron waving from the hole created by.... whatever it was that actually created it....

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1834298218068221952/vid/avc1/768x590/Iwvk7nsmxNJJLYoE.mp4?tag=16

[Vicus]

How to wake up a normie...

After my final awake thanks to the documentary "Loose Change" (version 2004) absolute rare to find today,I do have got some little success (with normies)with a simple argument based on facts from my
High School experiments...

I was in a technical school based on "metals", first what you got in your first year (from 6!) was charts from 1 to 10 hardness from metals,temperature grades to melt,etc.
Then came alloys ,acids,to solder,to melt,to polish and so on...

Well,to catch their attention first I told them about copper and bronze (hardness 6) supposedly used to build the pyramids in Egypt ...and I told them there are charts from rocks too!
Various types from granite (normal,pink,black,etc.) and none of them you can work it with bronze tools,ever! a fary tale!

You should watch their reactions to those facts, priceless! all the scales from their eyes crumbling down!

Then I began to the results in the "laboratory" experiments...

Long story short:
steel melt at 1600 Celsius grades (with constant oxygen,2 seconds without don't melt... ) commercial aviation kerosene burn to maximal 600/800 Celsius...
And the steel columns from 9/11 weren't naked,but with concrete shrouded ...case closed!

And don't let us waist our time with building 7, a no brained...

Eternal peace for all the Demonic forces victims :candle:, Judgment day will come for the Demons some day too! :fire:

[Tintin]

A reminder: General Wesley Clark who far from distinguishing himself during the Balkans conflict (he'd tried to persuade British Gen. Jackson to antagonise the Russians by blocking the runway in Pristina, Kosovo (1999), to which Jackson infamously intoned: "I'm not going to start World War three for you!!) redeemed himself subsequently with perspicacious commentary surrounding the planned US Middle Eastern 'expeditions' of the 2000s (still ongoing) and these two videos here should be committed to memory, both recorded after the events of 2001:

Video 1: a compilation

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1834354943970738178/pu/vid/avc1/640x368/ZU-Cy2tyHFUqWAv2.mp4?tag=12

Video 2:

"We're taking out 7 countries in 5 years."

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1819708777379020800/pu/vid/avc1/414x278/MQpf_MJYzxUdUZlT.mp4?tag=12

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Here's an interesting video for anyone that's got four hours (it can be skim-watched). It's essentially September 11th relived via television broadcast. Included is a status monitor showing each of the aircraft's movements in real time, overlaid with air traffic chatter, and a dashboard of other details as events unfolded. Note: events as they are generally understood, and told (in the mainstream), minus any conspiracy angle.

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9/11 attacks in realtime (dashboard) 7:46am-12:00pm

The purpose of this dashboard arranged film is to give a better overview on the timeline of the events unfolding on 11 September 2001. The footage and events are synchronized in realtime. The film starts exactly one hour before the first plane hits the World Trade Center.

The video starts at 07:46:40 am (1h before the first impact).

The screen is divided into various sectors:

Live TV broadcast
TV coverage of different TV stations (ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX, NBC).

Latest Events
All event which happened in this time window. Information taken mostly from Wikipedia.

Timeline Major Events
27:14 AA11 hijacked
55:58 UA175 hijacked
59:55 AA11 crashes into WTC1
1:03:15 AA77 hijacked
1:16:17 UA175 crashes into WTC2
1:41:15 UA93 hijacked
1:51:01 AA77 crashes into the Pentagon
2:12:15 WTC2 collapsed
2:16:26 UA93 crashes in Somerset County, PA
2:41:37 WTC1 collapsed

Radio Window
Indicates when radio of either New York City Fire Department or Air Traffic Control is played.

Clock
Actual time during the events in EST Eastern Standard Time (GMT-4).

Information Board
Mostly, the board shows the flight paths and positions of the air planes. Also movie footage and photos which could be time-synced are shown. Additional information to the TV footage, audio or events are overlaid.

Status Monitor
Status of the airplanes (on the ground, airborne, hijacked, crashed) and buildings which have been impacted (WTC1, WTC2, Pentagon).

Other events:
38:03 Radio transmission from terrorist Mohammed Atta aboard flight 11
47:18 Another radio transmission from terrorist Mohammed Atta aboard flight 11
50:44 Flight 175 confirms sighting of hijacked Flight 11
1:02:54 First TV pictures from the attacks are broadcasted
1:07:47 Near midair collision of United 175
1:22:05 President Bush gets informed about the second plane hitting the WTC
1:41:12 Hijackers storm the cockpit on flight 93
1:43:13 Public statement of President Bush
1:45:19 Radio transmission from terrorist Ziad Jarrah aboard flight 93
1:52:20 Another radio transmission from terrorist Ziad Jarrah aboard flight 93
1:54:25 The photograph "The Falling Man" is taken
2:28:33 Five stories of the pentagon collapse

Coincidences and Unusual Connections discovered in retrospect (not intentional foreshadowing):
9:00 Man in ad saying the he 's not jumping off the building. (Coincidental reference, not intentional foreshadowing)
13:22 Just after AA11 departed, a TV host says: "We have a breach in security." (Coincidental reference, not intentional foreshadowing)
16:36 President bush is leaving for his visit to Sarasota, not knowing he will be holding a difficult speech there about the attacks.
17:00 "Three numbers that can save your life - 911" (Numerical coincidence)
18:23 An elderly couple is celebrating their 54th year of being married in New York. They got married in 47. 5+4=9, 4+7=11, (9/11) (Numerical coincidence)
27:55 During the hijacking of flight 11, an ad is showing a paper plane flying low through Manhattan. Inside of the plane is written: I'm on my way. Behind the woman who is throwing the paper plane is an artwork whose shape reminds of the twin towers (Ironic coincidence, not implying intentional foreshadowing)
31:55 CNN reports about an expansion project for the Capitol in Washington D.C. which was the target of Flight 93. (not intentional foreshadowing)
38:55 One of the last times the date "September 11th" has been spoken out without the relations to terrorist attacks. The man's voice cracked when he spoke it out. (Coincidental mention, not intentional foreshadowing)
51:49 CNN advertises a report: "When the big one hits", 8 minutes before flight 11 hits the WTC. (Scheduling coincidence, not implying intentional foreshadowing.)
52:04 The weatherman says that fortunately the hurricane moves away from the US. If it didn't move away, it may have prevented the terrorists planes taking off that day. (Speculative observation)
1:00:12 After 9/11, President Bush created the Office of Homeland Security. Tom Ridge, who is shown on screen just seconds after the first plane hit, became the first head of the office. (Historical fact, established in response to 9/11)
1:02:29 The flying papers flying around in the ad look very similar to the scene happening at the same time at the world trade center. (Observational similarity, not implying intentional foreshadowing)

Errors:
1:00:02 / 2:13:27 : The photo on the information board is incorrect. It doesn't show Chief Joseph Pfeifer who made the radio message but his brother Lieutenant Kevin Pfeifer who died on 9/11.

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

This is one of the better stills I've been able to capture of UA175 in flight, prior to impacting the south tower. I grabbed it from the Jennifer Spell footage, one of the lesser known and less frequently seen home videos from that day. It features in the documentary below (well worth watching) at the 1:40 mark.

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Shocking 9/11 Home Videos And First-Hand Accounts
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[ExomatrixTV]

Stunning Video Of Trump Doubting Official 9/11 Story!:

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[ExomatrixTV]

9/11 The Thermite/Fire/DEW Debate - What Does The Evidence Show Us?:

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DJ Thermal Detonator will join me this evening for a debate and discussion of the evidence from 9/11, and what can be done about it.


@DJThermalD (https://twitter.com/DJThermalD)

[Tintin]

It's a factor that cemented in my mind fairly early on, through months of research, and from experience in music and film, that the idea that any actual passenger airliner was hijacked at all that day was a preposterous idea: really a piece of Hollywood-esque scripting, and nothing more than that. It would have been an absolute doddle to have several months before - maybe even as much as a year - have approached any casting agency with an outline for a movie plot involving hijacked aircraft, and recorded multiple voice-overs employing all sorts of actors in role doing their 'lines', to dub in at appropriate moments during the 'movie'. That happens all the time. No brainer really. This all gets tidied up in post (post-production). And this is what I think actually may have happened.

This new post by James Corbett in interview with Ted Walter covers the subject of the 9/11 phone calls. I'm sure some familiar themes will be covered but there may be some newer insights too.

I've only just started listening to this and it'll be interesting to hear what else comes out in the wash. This recorded Sept 22/23, 2024.

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Interview 1898 – Ted Walter Dissects the 9/11 Phone Calls

Source: Corbett Report (https://corbettreport.com/walter-911calls/)

Show notes as usual are posted on the landing page, to include:


- Fog, Fiction and the Flight 11 Phone Calls: PART 1 (https://archive.li/WgPzj) and PART 2 (https://archive.li/XyXR4)

Much of that material I'm already familiar with.

Here's the audio although there's also a video through James' link:

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Various_%28of_interest%29/2024-09-24_INTERVIEW1898_Corbett_Report_w_Ted_Walter_Dissecting_the_911_Phone_Calls.mp3

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Just to add:

@corbettreport:0/walter-911calls:0?r=8YZvZrJQ6nP7dQtsnSN9nj5VRskgHsWH

I watched this when it came out a couple of weeks ago. Generally, a good interview/back and forth, but not a whole lot of new info is shared.

With the strong exception of a piece of research - briefly mentioned in the video - which I hadn't seen before, called Fog, Fiction and the Flight 11 Phone Calls, by a guy calling himself loopDloop. It appeared as a thread on Let's Roll forums (https://letsrollforums.com/index.php) years ago, and is no longer available. I had to scour waybackmachine to get a look at it. It covers multiple pages, and lots of images are presented. It took an afternoon to get everything and put it all together, but I got the lot, and copied it all out into a Word document.

I do believe it's worth it's own thread. It's a large piece of the work, and I think an important one.

[Tintin]

a piece of research - briefly mentioned in the video - which I hadn't seen before, called Fog, Fiction and the Flight 11 Phone Calls, by a guy calling himself loopDloop. It appeared as a thread on Let's Roll forums (https://letsrollforums.com/index.php) years ago, and is no longer available. I had to scour waybackmachine to get a look at it.

I do believe it's worth it's own thread. It's a large piece of the work, and I think an important one.

Yes, the direct link to the Wayback Machine for anyone tuning in here is accessible via my post above via PART 2 (https://archive.li/XyXR4).

Perhaps a separate thread is indeed now needed for this :thumbsup: It is as the interview acknowledges one of the areas of 9/11 research given less attention than it ought.

[ExomatrixTV]

The Last 30 Seconds:

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No study, investigation or expert ever explained the final collapse of the twin towers. They always ignore the last 30 seconds of the collapse.
The FEMA/ASCE report, ignored the last 30 seconds. The massive NIST report, ignored the last 30 seconds, stopping their investigation at "collapse initiation".
That’s because all gravity theories attempting to explain the collapse of the twin towers, are impossible.

0:00 - The Construction
0:41 - The Destruction
02:45 - Confusing collapse theories
05:29 - Official investigations
09:48 - Nobody is responsible
10:28 - Is it raining?
11:15 - It’s about time!
12:35 - It ain’t over!
15:32 - Phase 1 - The Visible Roof
16:05 - The First Volume Destroyed
16:44 - The Sagging Truss Theory
18:57 - The Missing Jolt
20:16 - The Key to Science.
21:16 - Phase 2 - The Lateral Destruction
24:13 - Phase 3 - The Standing Core
26:24 - Out and Down!
28:12 - Phase 4 - The Falling Core
30:13 - It’s Difficult to Understand
30:25 - Blowing off the Dust
31:09 - The NIST Omission Report
33:37 - They have to lie.
34:00 - You will pay for it
34:41 - The Emperor’s New Cloths
34:59 - No Expert can explain it
36:45 - Do you like freedom?

[Satori]

Actually experts can and have explained the causes of the destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2 and WTC 7 (not to mention other buildings in the WTC complex) on September 11, 2001. These experts are simply ignored because their opinions and explanations depart from the official, bogus explanations and opinions of the so-called experts who promote the official explanation.

Nearly 10 years ago my peer reviewed paper on the subject of expert opinion evidence regarding the causes of the destruction of these buildings was published in the Journal of 911 Studies. It stands unrebutted to this day.

WWW.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015Looney

Click on “Articles” and scroll down to the article titled “The Cause of the Destruction of the World Trade Center and the Admissibility of Expert Testimony Under the Standards Developed in Daubert v Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, inc.”

[Michel Leclerc]

A reminder: General Wesley Clark who far from distinguishing himself during the Balkans conflict (he'd tried to persuade British Gen. Jackson to antagonise the Russians by blocking the runway in Pristina, Kosovo (1999), to which Jackson infamously intoned: "I'm not going to start World War three for you!!) redeemed himself subsequently with perspicacious commentary surrounding the planned US Middle Eastern 'expeditions' of the 2000s (still ongoing) and these two videos here should be committed to memory, both recorded after the events of 2001:

Video 1: a compilation

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1834354943970738178/pu/vid/avc1/640x368/ZU-Cy2tyHFUqWAv2.mp4?tag=12

Video 2:

"We're taking out 7 countries in 5 years."

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1787897300758495232/vid/avc1/576x658/r2cdHlyQqPm6fw33.mp4?tag=14

Thank you very much Tintin. Wesley Clark, gradually realising increasingly how his probably once present idealism about the military was betrayed. I find the last small part when, being interviewed already in Obama’s time, he utters the last remnant of his once genuine belief in a beneficent destiny for he US then shaking his head, turns away, not responding – probably because he does not want to compromise himself too much but also as if overcome by sadness — quite moving.

[Michel Leclerc]

The Last 30 Seconds:

4QQHhc1OH54
No study, investigation or expert ever explained the final collapse of the twin towers. They always ignore the last 30 seconds of the collapse.
The FEMA/ASCE report, ignored the last 30 seconds. The massive NIST report, ignored the last 30 seconds, stopping their investigation at "collapse initiation".
That’s because all gravity theories attempting to explain the collapse of the twin towers, are impossible.

0:00 - The Construction
0:41 - The Destruction
02:45 - Confusing collapse theories
05:29 - Official investigations
09:48 - Nobody is responsible
10:28 - Is it raining?
11:15 - It’s about time!
12:35 - It ain’t over!
15:32 - Phase 1 - The Visible Roof
16:05 - The First Volume Destroyed
16:44 - The Sagging Truss Theory
18:57 - The Missing Jolt
20:16 - The Key to Science.
21:16 - Phase 2 - The Lateral Destruction
24:13 - Phase 3 - The Standing Core
26:24 - Out and Down!
28:12 - Phase 4 - The Falling Core
30:13 - It’s Difficult to Understand
30:25 - Blowing off the Dust
31:09 - The NIST Omission Report
33:37 - They have to lie.
34:00 - You will pay for it
34:41 - The Emperor’s New Cloths
34:59 - No Expert can explain it
36:45 - Do you like freedom?

John, this video essay is brilliant. Factually accurate and rhetorically cutting steel. The repetition of the NIST “ignorance” statement which shows it to have been cowardice times 200 — may those people once be held responsible, I would like to say. But even now, just a few years after the facts, when our populations start to understand how they were fooled by the “vaccine czars”, their very rare moments of grasping the extent of their own complicity will suffice for them not to be tempted to bring the real killers to justice. How far less will the Americans then be inclined to “claim damages”, almost 25 years after the facts.

[Satori]

Actually experts can and have explained the causes of the destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2 and WTC 7 (not to mention other buildings in the WTC complex) on September 11, 2001. These experts are simply ignored because their opinions and explanations depart from the official, bogus explanations and opinions of the so-called experts who promote the official explanation.

Nearly 10 years ago my peer reviewed paper on the subject of expert opinion evidence regarding the causes of the destruction of these buildings was published in the Journal of 911 Studies. It stands unrebutted to this day.

WWW.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015Looney

Click on “Articles” and scroll down to the article titled “The Cause of the Destruction of the World Trade Center and the Admissibility of Expert Testimony Under the Standards Developed in Daubert v Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, inc.”


I’ve been told that the above link may not work for some. If so, please try www.journalof911studies.com. And go to Articles then scroll down about 5 or 6 articles.

[Bill Ryan]

Actually experts can and have explained the causes of the destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2 and WTC 7 (not to mention other buildings in the WTC complex) on September 11, 2001. These experts are simply ignored because their opinions and explanations depart from the official, bogus explanations and opinions of the so-called experts who promote the official explanation.

Nearly 10 years ago my peer reviewed paper on the subject of expert opinion evidence regarding the causes of the destruction of these buildings was published in the Journal of 911 Studies. It stands unrebutted to this day.

WWW.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015Looney (http://WWW.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015Looney)

Click on “Articles” and scroll down to the article titled “The Cause of the Destruction of the World Trade Center and the Admissibility of Expert Testimony Under the Standards Developed in Daubert v Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, inc.”

I’ve been told that the above link may not work for some. If so, please try www.journalof911studies.com (http://www.journalof911studies.com). And go to Articles then scroll down about 5 or 6 articles.Here it is: :thumbsup:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/the-cause-of-the-destruction-of-the-world-trade-center-buildings-on-september-11-2001-and-the-admissibility-of-expert-testimony-under-the-standards-developed-in-daubert-v-merrell-dow-pharmaceutical

And as a PDF:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdfhttp://www.journalof911studies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf

[Satori]

Actually experts can and have explained the causes of the destruction of WTC 1, WTC 2 and WTC 7 (not to mention other buildings in the WTC complex) on September 11, 2001. These experts are simply ignored because their opinions and explanations depart from the official, bogus explanations and opinions of the so-called experts who promote the official explanation.

Nearly 10 years ago my peer reviewed paper on the subject of expert opinion evidence regarding the causes of the destruction of these buildings was published in the Journal of 911 Studies. It stands unrebutted to this day.

WWW.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015Looney (http://WWW.journalof911studies.com/resources/2015Looney)

Click on “Articles” and scroll down to the article titled “The Cause of the Destruction of the World Trade Center and the Admissibility of Expert Testimony Under the Standards Developed in Daubert v Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, inc.”

I’ve been told that the above link may not work for some. If so, please try www.journalof911studies.com (http://www.journalof911studies.com). And go to Articles then scroll down about 5 or 6 articles.Here it is: :thumbsup:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/the-cause-of-the-destruction-of-the-world-trade-center-buildings-on-september-11-2001-and-the-admissibility-of-expert-testimony-under-the-standards-developed-in-daubert-v-merrell-dow-pharmaceutical

And as a PDF:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdfhttp://www.journalof911studies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2015LooneyVol40Mar.pdf

Thank you Bill!

[Tintin]

I, along with a great many of you here, have seen perhaps hundreds of hours of footage during research, and we've most probably all seen some footage from the lobby of Tower 2 before - I know I have. But, I don't remember seeing this one before.

Courtesy Richard Gage via X (https://x.com/RichardGage_911/status/1858042072512774203), posted earlier today:

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1858041603157610496/vid/avc1/874x648/tUDzogzrbaeLQUwq.mp4?tag=16

[Rizotto]

Trump should have a meeting with this man. (Also with the survivors of the USS Liberty...)

“They Ended My Career To Hide The Truth About 9/11!” - Fmr Congressman Curt Weldon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Q9WqtASRA

[grapevine]

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11
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Confirmation of what we already know . . .

[Rizotto]

The truth about 9/11 has yet to be fully exposed and integrated at the political level.

Here's a very interesting interview by Jason Bermas with Curt Weldon (ex-congressman for Pensylvania).
Funny how so many of these dual citizens (Israel-USA) seem to be involved in some cover up or other.

BOMBSHELL!!! 9/11 Hijackers Were On The CIA Payroll!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUwUn-FN-iQ

[Rizotto]

Oh wow! A second report about uncovering data on 9/11 within the same week, and this one below includes an interview with Anna Luna!
I haven't watched this video yet. Will appreciate feedback from those who have seen it.

9/11 BOMBSHELL "We are about to release something big with the 9/11 files and JFK" Rep. Anna Luna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdquYLhOCQY

[Bill Ryan]

Oh wow! A second report about uncovering data on 9/11 within the same week, and this one below includes an interview with Anna Luna!
I haven't watched this video yet. Will appreciate feedback from those who have seen it.

9/11 BOMBSHELL "We are about to release something big with the 9/11 files and JFK" Rep. Anna Luna


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdquYLhOCQYYes, I just listened to this myself. But there were no '9/11 pilots', or '9/11 hijackers'. Talk of, and intrigue about, pilots or hijackers is all wheels within wheels within wheels.

This is one affair where I doubt the whole truth will come out and be widely known for maybe 50-100 more years.

[mountain_jim]

copying here


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1911830764716535845

1911830764716535845


Tucker Carlson

@TuckerCarlson

After twenty years in congress, Curt Weldon was about to become chairman of the House Armed Services Committee when he publicly questioned the accuracy of the 9-11 report. In retaliation, the Bush administration sent federal agents to his daughter’s house and ended his political career. At 77, Weldon has decided to tell the truth about what actually happened on September 11, 2001.

(0:00) Introduction
(2:33) Why Did They Oust Weldon?
(7:12) Could the CIA Have Prevented 9-11?
(16:00) How the FBI Tried to Intimidate Weldon
(19:23) Did the CIA Lie About Osama bin Laden’s Location?
(25:47) The Real Culprit Behind America’s Wars in the Middle East
(31:27) Trump’s Biggest Challenge Right Now
(33:11) How the Deep State Undermined Weldon’s Political Career
(43:16) Will Weldon Be Killed for Speaking Out?
(48:04) Why Hillary Clinton Had to Take Down Gaddafi
(49:31) The 9-11 Commission Was a Scam
(55:17) The Mysterious Collapse of Building 7
(1:05:13) How Will This Revelation Impact America’s Future?
(1:07:56) The Bush Administration and China
(1:14:32) Why Politicians Are So Scared of Declassifying 9-11 Documents
(1:20:14) Where Can Americans Find the Truth About 9-11?

Includes paid partnerships.

[ExomatrixTV]

NEW WTC 9/11 Video Helicopter view (MUST SEE) 4K 60 fps:

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Hey, guys, I've always admired the WTC, and I've been studying and analyzing 9/11 for over 20 years. This aerial perspective of 9/11 is so mind-blowing... it took me a few days to enhance this video using AI. I tried my best! I hope you enjoy it, with a bit of narration and insights from the police helicopter pilot.

[Rizotto]

Here's the best (in my opinion) and brief (7 minutes) video clearly explaining the evidence behind the claim that the planes that were flown into the WTC towers were remotely controlled by a central command.


"Why made all four hijacked planes on 9/11 long detours? How did the hijackers know about "radar holes"? How could they conduct key hijacking events simultaneously all within 10 minutes? Who controlled the planes?"

Inside 9/11 - Who controlled the planes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9KZ2Yy5g4

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I first saw this video something like 15 years ago, and had to do an internet search today to look it up. I couldn't remember the exact title of the video, so I typed in the search bar "youtube how airplanes were remote controlled on september 11 2001". The widely different results of the search using two different search engines is interesting.

First, I searched with google, and it did not list the video at all. Instead there was at the top some AI response stating that the planes were piloted by hijackers, and the planes were not remotely controlled. Several listings further below only discussed the hijackers and how they flew the planes, or that remotely controlled planes on 9-11was just a conspiracy theory.

Then I searched with yandex, and there was the video I was looking for, at the very top of the list. All the other listings below were discussing the evidence that the 9-11 planes were remotely controlled.

So, there you have it. We live in two very different worlds, superimposed. I still find it very difficult to this day to discuss 9-11 with normies, as they all use google for internet searches. Just like with the plandemic, they don't want to hear that the government is lying to them, and setting up big tech to lie to them.

[Rizotto]

Not an 9-11 event, just a test crash of a plane at 500 MPH into a concrete wall. The plane seems to vaporise on impact.

Posting this here because I've come across too many online posts all over the internet from the 'no plane' camp, claiming that there couldn't have been any plane hitting the WTC because the videos of the event just show the planes 'disappeared' on impact. In reality, the planes didn't 'disappear' on impact, they practically vaporised, as demonstrated on the video below.

Total Destruction: F4 Phantom Rocketed Into Concrete Wall At 500 MPH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wDqSnBJ-k

[mountain_jim]

Here's the best (in my opinion) and brief (7 minutes) video clearly explaining the evidence behind the claim that the planes that were flown into the WTC towers were remotely controlled by a central command.


"Why made all four hijacked planes on 9/11 long detours? How did the hijackers know about "radar holes"? How could they conduct key hijacking events simultaneously all within 10 minutes? Who controlled the planes?"

Inside 9/11 - Who controlled the planes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC9KZ2Yy5g4

_______________________________________

I first saw this video something like 15 years ago, and had to do an internet search today to look it up. I couldn't remember the exact title of the video, so I typed in the search bar "youtube how airplanes were remote controlled on september 11 2001". The widely different results of the search using two different search engines is interesting.

First, I searched with google, and it did not list the video at all. Instead there was at the top some AI response stating that the planes were piloted by hijackers, and the planes were not remotely controlled. Several listings further below only discussed the hijackers and how they flew the planes, or that remotely controlled planes on 9-11was just a conspiracy theory.

Then I searched with yandex, and there was the video I was looking for, at the very top of the list. All the other listings below were discussing the evidence that the 9-11 planes were remotely controlled.

So, there you have it. We live in two very different worlds, superimposed. I still find it very difficult to this day to discuss 9-11 with normies, as they all use google for internet searches. Just like with the plandemic, they don't want to hear that the government is lying to them, and setting up big tech to lie to them.

I also have always resonated with the likelihood that the planes were real and remote controlled. (and that Cheney was involved and should be arrested and tried while still alive)

meme I happened to see today....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Go2-eeSXQAIrU3C?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Tintin]

Not an 9-11 event, just a test crash of a plane at 500 MPH into a concrete wall. The plane seems to vaporise on impact.

Posting this here because I've come across too many online posts all over the internet from the 'no plane' camp, claiming that there couldn't have been any plane hitting the WTC because the videos of the event just show the planes 'disappeared' on impact. In reality, the planes didn't 'disappear' on impact, they practically vaporised, as demonstrated on the video below.

Total Destruction: F4 Phantom Rocketed Into Concrete Wall At 500 MPH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wDqSnBJ-k

This still does not help to explain, aerodynamically at least, that the purported passenger aircraft could manage the speeds claimed at the altitudes that they were flown, without suffering any obvious structural damage; isn't consistent with the external architecture of the towers which were predominantly steel not thick several feet solid concrete; doesn't explain why we see clearly manufactured representation of 'wing' damage on the buildings, most likely caused by planted charges to create that very impression.

There weren't any pilots; there weren't any hijackers. Whatever was flown at the buildings were at least made to look like passenger airliners. And certainly a LOT of the video imagery that was rolled out across mainstream mass media was, and remains, highly suspect. There may well have been some vapourising, of whatever material was used to shroud, I don't know, some kind of drone (?) to be made to look like a plane.

Considering the materials technology at the disposal of those actually responsible for pulling this 'appearance' off being likely decades ahead, as testimony from insiders within Black Budget projects have attested to over the years, a 'no plane' scenario isn't that crazy. In fact most probably an accurate statement.

[Rizotto]

I agree, the planes that hit the WTC were probably not the regular passenger planes. Many have speculated that the passenger planes were switched in the radar gaps with upgraded military planes equipped with bombs that could be remotely maneouvered at higher speeds. While the military planes were remotely crashed in the WTC, the passenger planes were remotely rerouted to land at other airstrips. Once on the ground, the passengers & crew were forced to make phone calls to loved ones claiming they were still in the flying plane piloted by hijackers. Eventually passengers and crew were eliminated. I recall that a retired flight attendant, Rebecca Roth (pseudonym?) reviewed all the records of the calls and pieced that scenario together. Which seems quite plausible to me, given that in 2001 it wasn't possible to make a phone call from an airplane at high altitude with a cell phone.

But I wouldn't entirely discount the possibility that the passenger planes themselves were of 'military grade', selected for that particular operation, and were crashed in the WTC with all passengers and crew aboard.

As for the disappearing of the plane into the building at the crash point, my guess is that a plane flying that fast into a steel building will have some parts vaporized, i.e. the softer shell, and some of the harder parts (e.g. titanium engines) will crash right through the building. Wasn't it the case that one of the jet engines was found to have traveled through the building and landed on the street? It's quite possible that explosives were BOTH pre-planted at impact point in the buildings AND in the planes, for maximum disintegration of both.

However, I don't get the 'no plane' theory. I recall there was witness testimony of the noise of approaching airplanes as they flew towards the WTC. Also, the second plane that hit the tower was videoed from multiple angles by a number of witnesses. I don't believe there's any sort of hologram technology capable of incorporating all these elements. There would have been a high risk of failure or the risk of detection of something fake, in an age where so many people have video cameras. The perpetrators would probably have used the proven method of remotely controlling the planes.

But hey, all of these are hypothesis, until we get a solid investigation done, we can speculate to no end.

Just one more note, about the conflicting theories. There have been so many heated debates, even name-calling, and accusations of 'cointelpro' among the various theorists. Some of it may well have been set up by the perpetrators themselves to sow discord and confusion. On the other hand, the best approach might be to include all reasonable possibilities based on available evidence. For example, the evidence of thermite in the WTC debris does not exclude the use of DEW weapons on that fateful day. Perhaps BOTH were used. The row of burned out cars outside the WTC is indeed very weird.

As for dustification, Judy Wood presents the video of the final moments of the core steel column as evidence of its turning to dust in its collapse. But I wonder if it isn't just the result of the intense stress that the steel column had been under, what with all the explosive charges, plus the bending under assymetrical weight.

Just for comparison, watch the video of the Arecibo antenna collapse. You will see that some steel cables that were holding it seem to turn to 'dust'. I'm no expert, but isn't that dust the result of intense stress in the metal due to extreme tension.

Watch Collapse of the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joLYVix5DLU

[jaybee]

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I'm inclined to think that the 9/11 plot would be kept as simple as possible - although the whole story about it gets pretty complicated when you add in the demise of Flight 77 and 93 as well as what happened to the WTC Towers...


My current thinking is that the regular passenger airliners were used but may have been modified in some way...and that the main modification could have been adding more depleted uranium as 'counterbalance' than was usual -

The depleted uranium in the planes - including the wings could be what allowed it to penetrate the buildings like they did...?

I see that there are statements in different places giving the impression that tungsten alloys were used as the counter balance in all/most planes after a certain date - BUT - this is probably to move away from the controversial use of depleted uranium because people didn't know it was in planes they were flying in - I would guess that tungsten is NOW used in all passenger airliners (?).... but depleted uranium would have been needed on 9/11 to do the necessary damage to the towers..... (?)

Radiation Exposure from Depleted Uranium Counterweights (https://www.wise-uranium.org/ruxcw.html)

Depleted uranium in the ballasts of the airplanes that caused 9/11 explain the diseases in NYC after the attacks (https://medium.com/@pyrophor.asso/there-was-depleted-uranium-in-the-ballasts-of-the-airplanes-that-caused-9-11-and-a-secret-66dcb7dd3daa)

The depleted uranium would have given the airliners the umph to do the damage they did although it still wouldn't be enough to bring the Towers down - but would be enough to necessitate the (DEW?) planned controlled demolition...

We don't know if the hijackers knew they were on a suicide mission - or not - they may have thought they were going to land somewhere with the passengers - although they could have known it was suicide mission - they might have known the planes were going to be taken to REMOTE CONTROL or they might not - it is said they were CIA assets and I've read somewhere about them being fast tracked through visa control in Saudi Arabia (Riyadh?) .... by none other than John Brennan - ex CIA chief, when he worked there...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

In reality, the planes didn't 'disappear' on impact, they practically vaporised, as demonstrated on the video below.


That reinforced concrete wall is a million miles away from the WTC. As I've thoroughly argued in many posts -- with screenshots and diagrams from the WTC blueprints -- those towers were mostly fresh air. The facade those planes hit was just GLASS slotted between HOLLOW steel columns 9.5 millimeters thick, whose strength was designed for vertical strength (to hold the building up, braced at every floor) not lateral.

A cross-section of those steel columns:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=31294&d=1443204591

Those planes - a rigid body - have been calculated to have hit the buildings - a less rigid body - with a kinetic force of 3.6 Million Joules. That basically means that against an outer shell of just glass and hollow girders, it's going to plough straight through it as though it wasn't there. That's just physics.

The 'it should've vaporised on impact' hypothesis makes less sense than Kamala Harris on a bad day!

[DustOff72]

There were no hijacked aircraft that day. It is the foundational myth of the false flag operation. Its purpose was to vilify Muslims in accordance with Zionist goals.

The aircraft that hit the towers were drones. No airliner hit the Pentagon, but something else did. No airliner at Shanksville, as supported by Coroner Miller's first statements.

[Delight]

Judy Wood has been demonized. As with "covid" MDs and scientists' alternative views being demonized, I wonder if the suppression actually gives her information even more credibility. She had spent time with John Hutchison.

John Hutchison Interview with Art Bell (2002) - The Hutchison Effect

comment below video
"Explains 9/11then and the lack of debris and bodies concrete steel filing cabinets toilets 🚽 etc you look at the very fast disintegration of the twin towers fits with this Hutchison effect without effecting the surrounding buildings"

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Dr. Judy Wood - Breakthrough Energy Movement conference in Holland, 2012

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Can anyone see the dustification now?

[Rizotto]

Judy Wood's presentation on the toasted cars is raising so many questions. Has there been any other explanation from some other source? What could possibly have burned these cars that were parked a block or so away from the WTC?

[Tintin]

There were no hijacked aircraft that day. It is the foundational myth of the false flag operation. Its purpose was to vilify Muslims in accordance with Zionist goals.

The aircraft that hit the towers were drones. No airliner hit the Pentagon, but something else did. No airliner at Shanksville, as supported by Coroner Miller's first statements.

This is the closest most succinct and accurate summary so far, and thank you for it. Particularly the reference to 'Zionist' goals which became all too apparent to me many many years ago too.

:thumbsup:

[Tintin]

Judy Wood has been demonized. As with "covid" MDs and scientists' alternative views being demonized, I wonder if the suppression actually gives her information even more credibility. She had spent time with John Hutchison.

John Hutchison Interview with Art Bell (2002) - The Hutchison Effect

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"Explains 9/11then and the lack of debris and bodies concrete steel filing cabinets toilets 🚽 etc you look at the very fast disintegration of the twin towers fits with this Hutchison effect without effecting the surrounding buildings"

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Dr. Judy Wood - Breakthrough Energy Movement conference in Holland, 2012

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Can anyone see the dustification now?

:thumbsup:

See also: Where Did The Towers Go? (https://avalonlibrary.net/911/WOOD%2C%20Judy%20%28Dr.%29/Judy%20Wood%20-%20Where%20Did%20the%20Towers%20Go.pdf), Judy Wood's book.

Funnily enough I was about to watch Judy Wood's presentation (again!) last night but it was getting a bit too late. I'd also ploughed my way through the excellent September 11th - New Pearl Harbour (https://avalonlibrary.net/911/September_11_-_The_New_Pearl_Harbor_dir_by_Massimo_Mazzucco_%282013%29.mp4) 5 hour documentary where a lot of familiar clips shared in many another of the many dozens, if not hundreds of videos out there appears, in many cases I think, to have been the source, although the makers of that had also culled from others too.

My view. for what it may be worth, is that trying to deduce what happened solely relying on what we call conventional physics, much of which certainly appeared to have been violated from a limited understanding, or avoidance of other possible methods, assumed 'unknown', has been a huge factor in distracting folks and most effectively: no wonder the rabbit hole.

Bill had used this classic Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) extract on one of the 9/11 threads some time ago, and it is somewhat apposite I think, and I'll share it again:



"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

Our library copy of Judy Wood's 'Breakthrough' conference has been in there for some years too now. Highly recommended.

https://avalonlibrary.net/911/Dr_Judy_Wood_Breakthrough_Energy_Conference_Holland_2012.mp4

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

There were no hijacked aircraft that day. It is the foundational myth of the false flag operation. Its purpose was to vilify Muslims in accordance with Zionist goals.

The aircraft that hit the towers were drones. No airliner hit the Pentagon, but something else did. No airliner at Shanksville, as supported by Coroner Miller's first statements.

This is the closest most succinct and accurate summary so far, and thank you for it. Particularly the reference to 'Zionist' goals which became all too apparent to me many many years ago too.

:thumbsup:

I would amend: the Shanksville crash -- Flight 93 -- was a real crash; the passengers really did take back the aircraft. I've heard the 'theory' floated around that it was on its way to New York to hit Building 7, timed to coincide with its orchestrated demolition. When the passengers fought back, it fell behind schedule. They had no choice but to drop the building anyway without a collision, and then take out the airliner with a missile. They'd later insert the false narrative that its target was the White House, or the Capitol Building. It was actually Building 7, a building, which, for reasons known only to God (so say), caught fire and then collapsed onto its own footprint without being struck by anything.

A plausible scenario.

[Tintin]

There were no hijacked aircraft that day. It is the foundational myth of the false flag operation. Its purpose was to vilify Muslims in accordance with Zionist goals.

The aircraft that hit the towers were drones. No airliner hit the Pentagon, but something else did. No airliner at Shanksville, as supported by Coroner Miller's first statements.

This is the closest most succinct and accurate summary so far, and thank you for it. Particularly the reference to 'Zionist' goals which became all too apparent to me many many years ago too.

:thumbsup:

I would amend: the Shanksville crash -- Flight 93 -- was a real crash; the passengers really did take back the aircraft. I've heard the 'theory' floated around that it was on its way to New York to hit Building 7, timed to coincide with its orchestrated demolition. When the passengers fought back, it fell behind schedule. They had no choice but to drop the building anyway without a collision, and then take out the airliner with a missile. They'd later insert the false narrative that its target was the White House, or the Capitol Building. It was actually Building 7, a building, which, for reasons known only to God (so say), caught fire and then collapsed onto its own footprint without being struck by anything.

A plausible scenario.

Or, that something was headed toward 'Site R': Raven Rock Mountain Complex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_Rock_Mountain_Complex) in Pennsylvania. RR is the underground Pentagon which I'd make a strong case for being the actual centre of operations for the entire false flag operation on the day.

Hear Bill's fascinating interview (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89340-No-Planes&p=1244143#post1244143) with 'Elizabeth Nelson' (pseudonym) conducted in 2009, and to quote that again from there:


(From Bill):


(2) Re Flight 93, in 2009 I interviewed 'Elizabeth Nelson', a personal witness to the decision being made to shoot down Flight 93. She was in the room. I knew her well, and I believe her 100%.


http://projectcamelot.org/elizabeth_nelson_flight_93.html

She never saw the plane come down, of course. And given that particular situation (the military personnel involved didn't appear to know about the False Flag setup), they might have been trying to shoot down a radar ghost. (If a hologram can be seen in the visible spectrum, just maybe it's detectable in the radar spectrum, also, though the physics is certainly rather different.)


MP3 audio:

Elizabeth Nelson: What really happened to Flight 93

https://projectcamelot.org/mediafiles/audio/elizabeth_nelson_flight_93.mp3

Transcript here: https://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/elizabeth_nelson_flight_93_transcript_en.html

[mountain_jim]

I saw a post recently (here I think) showing that an existing geological feature was used to fake the Shanksville crash - and that the evidence on the scene after the crash was quite underwhelming in proving a plane crashed there.

[jaybee]

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On the subject of Building 7 - in the Judy Wood presentation post 134 above (thanks Delight - I saw it years ago but gave it another viewing earlier) ..... she makes a remark about Building 7 slowly dustifying for hours before it was brought down by a controlled demolition... I think that was the word she used - and I have always thought that Building 7 must have been seriously damaged by whatever happened to the Twin Towers - but didn't 'come down' / disappear in the same way - - - - probably because it wasn't the prime target but was affected by being in close proximity..... by the process that dustified the WTCs...

Plasma spheres have been in the (alternative) news again with the statement that the US government/military can manipulate time and space....and a revival of the MH370 disappearing incident....

In this first video - @ 13 seconds you can see 'something' like a bright sphere 'going onto' the penthouse on top of the building as it collapses - at the point it collapses in..... slow the whole thing down by tapping on pause to see it better -

(54 seconds long)

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most if not all videos that remain of the Building 7 collapse don't use the first penthouse collapse part - which is a clue in itself...because the bright 'something' is clear... albeit short lived...


the video below doesn't show the penthouse part but - using the quarter speed bit @ 1:20 there is a brightish sphere? on the opposite corner to the penthouse.... on our left as we look at it.... then as the building is sinking down
@1:26 - 1:27 what looks like another sphere appears on the other corner (our right as we look at it) again tapping on pause you can see it better - I'm speculating these 'spheres/blobs' could be part of the process that brought Building 7 so neatly down -


I wouldn't like to say if it's the same process that was used on the Towers or not - it might be or it might have been an experiment using a different process....(?)..... don't know how much debris was left of Building 7 - and if it was thoroughly dustified as well......


Building 7 Collapse as seen from the west (2:04)

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edit to add..... it's best to watch the 2nd video above time stamps, on the YT site because the writing doesn't get in the way there...

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1914413986424013216

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Brian Cates - Political Columnist & Pundit
@drawandstrike
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THE TRUTH

ABOUT 9/11

WILL NOT BE

FOR EVERYONE.

Some will NOT be able to handle it.

Some will NOT be able to bring themselves to question the official fake narrative.

The implications are simply TOO INCREDIBLE FOR THEM TO CONTEMPLATE.

This is how the 9/11 conspiracy to hide what they really did that day has managed to last over 24 years to this point.

They COUNT on too many people NOT being able to break the programming.

But they didn't count on THE GREAT AWAKENING!

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@TheStormRedux
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Senator Ron Johnson talking about Building 7 being a controlled demolition 🤯

9/11 was an inside job!

[jaybee]

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For anyone who missed this clip 11 years ago....

John Kerry saying Building 7 was brought down in a 'controlled fashion...'
@50 seconds...



JOHN KERRY ADMITS WTC 7 WAS A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION (1:04)


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[ExomatrixTV]

Senator Ron Johnson drops BOMBSHELL:

Tells us that 9/11 Hearings are being planned, Building 7 was potentially a "Controlled Demolition"

“Structural Engineers say that thing didn't come down in any other way than controlled demolition. Molten steel. Destruction of evidence. We want answers. What really happened on 9/11? It’s being covered up by our government..."
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dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/senator-dropt-bom-9-11-hoorzittingen-in-voorbereiding-gebouw-wtc-7-mogelijk-gecontroleerd-gesloopt/) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

[mountain_jim]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/building-7-controlled-demolition-republican-senator-plans-shock-911-hearings-says-my-eyes

Building 7 Controlled Demolition?': Republican Senator Plans Shock 9/11 Hearings, Says 'My Eyes Have Been Opened'

by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, Apr 22, 2025 - 03:20 PM

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) is raising eyebrows after revealing on Benny Johnson’s conservative podcast that he’s pushing for a congressional hearing to examine the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the Twin Towers.

Johnson, who serves on the the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, raised questions about the World Trade Center Building 7’s collapse, saying the documentary film, Calling Out Bravo 7 has sparked “an awful lot of questions.”

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1914372377112179056

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“Well, start with Building 7,” Sen. Johnson told Johnson. “Again, I don’t know if you can find structural engineers other than the ones that have the corrupt investigations like NIST that would say that that thing didn’t come down in any other way than a controlled demolition.”

“Who ordered the removal and the destruction of all that evidence? Totally contrary to any other firefighting investigation procedures. I mean, who ordered that? Who is in charge? I think there’s some basic information. Where’s all the documentation from the NIST investigation?” the Wisconsin lawmaker continued.

“Now, there are a host of questions that I want and I will be asking, quite honestly, now that my eyes have been opened up,” he added.

https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1701269155339530475

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Johnson said he plans to work with former Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA), who recently appeared on Tucker Carlson’s podcast to discuss 9/11, “to expose what he’s willing to expose.”

https://x.com/TCNetwork/status/1912226670209016135

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The senator’s comments prompted Johnson to ask: “So we may actually see hearings about this?”

“I think so,” the senator replied while referencing previous efforts to obtain unredacted FBI files on behalf of 9/11 families.

“We want to get those answers, those documents for the families,” the lawmaker replied. “Hopefully, now with this administration, we can find out what is being covered up.”

Sen. Johnson expressed optimism that the Trump administration will authorize the release of 9/11-related documents, despite prior unsuccessful efforts to declassify them.

“We want those made available in terms of what happened. What did the FBI know that happened? So we had engaged with that. It was on a bipartisan basis. We wanted to get those answers, those documents for the families,” Sen. Johnson said. “Again, we didn’t get squat from the FBI. So hopefully now with this administration, I think President Trump should have some interests being a New Yorker himself.”

“What actually happened in 9/11? What do we know? What is being covered up? My guess is there’s an awful lot being covered up in terms of what the American government knows about 9/11,” he added.

Very interesting to say the least...


https://x.com/joshbottweet/status/1914527580214190204

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[Rizotto]

Someone just sent me a link to this webpage (from Architects & Engineers for 9-11 Truth website). It's about a documentary released in 2020 regarding a firefighter's perspective on the collapse of building 7.

‘Calling Out Bravo-7’: a firefighter’s perspective on Building 7
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/1028-calling-out-bravo-7-a-firefighter-s-perspective-on-building-7

However, I'm unable to find a link to the documentary itself in the above webpage.

This is what I found with an internet search:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTKyyzxbBCI

[ExomatrixTV]

Sen. Ron Johnson Reveals the Lies About 9/11 and Building 7:

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tuckercarlson.com/ron-johnson-highlight-2 (https://tuckercarlson.com/ron-johnson-highlight-2)

[Rizotto]

James Corbett interviews Ted Walter regarding the "9/11 Timeline" database compiled by the International Centre for 9/11 Justice.
Suggestion for PA admins: this database is a great resource for researchers, could it be placed into the PA library?

"The 9/11 Timeline is back! As dedicated researchers will know, the Complete 9/11 Timeline was an invaluable repository of 9/11-related information that became inaccessible several years ago. But now it's back, thanks to the International Center for 9/11 Justice. Joining us today is IC911 Executive Director Ted Walter to talk about the 9/11 timeline, demonstrate how to use it, and inform people how they can support 9/11 truth by spreading the word about this important research tool."

The 9/11 Timeline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkIPG-rhJ4M


Link to "the 9/11 Timeline":
https://ic911.org/complete-911-timeline/

[Tintin]

James Corbett interviews Ted Walter regarding the "9/11 Timeline" database compiled by the International Centre for 9/11 Justice.
Suggestion for PA admins: this database is a great resource for researchers, could it be placed into the PA library?


Thanks :handshake:

A nice idea but not terribly practical, or actually doable really short of accessing each and every link, PDF-ing each separate page/s, and just much too much of a time-tied exercise: there's hundreds of links if not thousands there.

For now I'd suggest anyone interested in that resource simply use the link provided.

https://ic911.org/complete-911-timeline/

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Old clips, but lest we forget: unexplained explosions unrelated to the two plane strikes.

Important testimony from boots-on-the-ground eyewitnesses:

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https://x.com/RichardGage_911/status/1943761469981839670

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

A new film is about to drop, called Codex 9/11. General release is coming August 23rd, hosted by Badlands Media on Rumble. One to look out for.

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https://x.com/RedPill78/status/1957487068705333596
Zak Paine
@RedPill78
I just want to congratulate @Brad_CGZ
on this incredible film #CODEX911 is truly a masterpiece and worthy of everyone’s attention. The long wait was well worth it and I encourage everyone to share WIDELY when it’s released 8/23/25

[Kryztian]

This looks promising.

Just wondering, it there one good overview film on the whole 9/11 truth phenomena that encompasses all the main criticism of the "official story" in about 60 minutes or so? The last one I saw was "Loose Change" but I think the last version of it "Loose Change: Final Cut" (2007) is now 18 years old. There has been so much more research and more revelations since then and there are many good films which cover in detail various aspects of 9/11, but we really need on good film that is 60 to 90 minutes long to explain to those who have yet to understand, what is really wrong with the official story.


A new film is about to drop, called Codex 9/11. General release is coming August 23rd, hosted by Badlands Media on Rumble. One to look out for.

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It would be a tall order to cover the entirety of the 9/11 attacks in just 60 minutes. Though now dated, the best film I know is September 11 - The New Pearl Harbour. It's about as comprehensive as it gets. Thoroughly recommended. The running time however is 4hrs 52 minutes.

Available here in the Avalon Library:

https://avalonlibrary.net/911/September_11_-_The_New_Pearl_Harbor_dir_by_Massimo_Mazzucco_%282013%29.mp4

[norman]

I lean quite heavily in the direction of "no planes" these days, so I jumped on this podcast interview with an enthusiasm I doubt is shared around here, much.

I've previously stated in this thread why I cannot believe real planes sliced through those steel buildings in the way our TV screens showed us. Mark Conlon brings more reasons to think the planes they say hit the buildings didn't/couldn't have done so.

I have another line of thinking development that ties fantom/holographic planes with the ufology scene in a way that I also don't expect to be well received around here too, but that's another post for another time. Suffice to say, Werner Von Braun told his best buddy their final card would be a fake alien invasion. It seems increasingly likely, to me, that they already have the technology ( and the systemic corruption ) to actually do that as convincingly, or better, than how they pulled off the 9/11 stunt.

back to topic.

UK Column,Jerm - Mark Conlon on whether planes actually hit the Twin Towers (https://podbay.fm/p/uk-column-podcasts/e/1755802801?t=38)
1 hour 24 minutes - Posted Aug 21, 2025

Show notes
Jerm and Mark Conlon dive into the intricate details surrounding the events of 9/11, with a sharp focus on the planes involved (or, rather, allegedly involved).

They trace the growth of scepticism towards the official narrative, underscoring the pivotal role of 9/11 in shaping public consciousness, and scrutinise anomalies in flight data and eyewitness accounts.

Mark presents his research on the 'no planes' theory, probing the role of technology and obvious cover-ups.

Their discussion also covers the physics of the impacts, the significance of military exercises on that day, and peculiarities in passenger manifests, urging listeners to question accepted narratives and consider the deeper implications of 9/11.

Bio: Mark is a researcher and author known for his critical analysis of the 9/11 events, particularly focusing on the anomalies surrounding the alleged plane crashes.

Website: https://911planesresearch.substack.com


https://odysee.com/@ukcolumn:9/Mark-Conlon:c?t=38

@ukcolumn:9/Mark-Conlon:c?t=38

[Johnnycomelately]

It would be a tall order to cover the entirety of the 9/11 attacks in just 60 minutes. Though now dated, the best film I know is September 11 - The New Pearl Harbour. It's about as comprehensive as it gets. Thoroughly recommended. The running time however is 4hrs 52 minutes.

Available here in the Avalon Library:

https://avalonlibrary.net/911/September_11_-_The_New_Pearl_Harbor_dir_by_Massimo_Mazzucco_%282013%29.mp4

Cool vid, Mark, thanks. Have been on my third and final bite, credits just rolled.

I’ve watched plenty of vids on this topic, still have most of them in a bookmark dungeon, and I would call this vid exceptional in the factors it considers. Lots of new ideas and a bunch of new footage. I especially liked the new interviews of regular people about explosions, and a few new of uniformed witnesses. And best Building 7 attention/description/explanation ever.

Would you please post the source of this vid, and some info like when OP’d, actually anything that could convince us that AI didn’t contribute some riffs here? Because it seems, like they say, too good to be true. And it didn’t broach the paradigm of spray-on gel-nanothermite, including evidence of that in collected samples of the copious dust, so that seems sketchy.

Could you, or anyone else too, run this through an AI-detector filter/detector?

[Rizotto]

Not sure if the site named "Top Documentaries" has previously been mentioned on PA. They have several categories of free documentaries.

It has a list of over 20 documentaries in its 9/11 category. I've seen many of them, most are excellent and provide information from various angles.

Here's the link: https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/category/911/

[Rizotto]

One of the best (in my opinion) documentary is "The Elephant in the Room". It has interviews of many folks more or less directly involved in 9/11. Particularly interesting, is Cynthia McKinney, and many others, etc. Also several first responders at ground zero who describe what they observed that fateful day.

For example, at 1:24:00 in the video, the first responder's describing what he heard during the few moments just prior the collapse of Building 7.

There's a certain poignancy in listening to their hoarse voices, speaking from injured lungs, knowing that by now they have probably succumbed to lung disease.

THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3DU8-pV9E

[Tintin]

It would be a tall order to cover the entirety of the 9/11 attacks in just 60 minutes. Though now dated, the best film I know is September 11 - The New Pearl Harbour. It's about as comprehensive as it gets. Thoroughly recommended. The running time however is 4hrs 52 minutes.

Available here in the Avalon Library:

https://avalonlibrary.net/911/September_11_-_The_New_Pearl_Harbor_dir_by_Massimo_Mazzucco_%282013%29.mp4

Cool vid, Mark, thanks. Have been on my third and final bite, credits just rolled.

I’ve watched plenty of vids on this topic, still have most of them in a bookmark dungeon, and I would call this vid exceptional in the factors it considers. Lots of new ideas and a bunch of new footage. I especially liked the new interviews of regular people about explosions, and a few new of uniformed witnesses. And best Building 7 attention/description/explanation ever.

Would you please post the source of this vid, and some info like when OP’d, actually anything that could convince us that AI didn’t contribute some riffs here? Because it seems, like they say, too good to be true. And it didn’t broach the paradigm of spray-on gel-nanothermite, including evidence of that in collected samples of the copious dust, so that seems sketchy.

Could you, or anyone else too, run this through an AI-detector filter/detector?

No need for an AI filter employment here. I posted this to the library back last May and it's, as far as I can tell, fully the original film from 2013.

[Russian Bear]

"Loose Change" 2006 https://yandex.ru/video/preview/7824457715784741863

[ExomatrixTV]

Senator Ron Johnson Dares to Question 9/11:

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Senator Ron Johnson joins us today to discuss the official 9/11 conspiracy theory and the legitimate questions that he and many other Americans have about that story. We discuss Senator Johnson's problems with the official 9/11 investigation, whether the Senate can and should hold new hearings on the subject, and what he will be discussing at the upcoming Turning the Tide: 9/11 Justice in 2025 conference in Washington, D.C. We also delve into harm caused by the experimental mRNA injections and the subsequent erosion of public trust in government and institutions.


corbettreport.com/senator-ron-johnson-dares-to-question-9-11 (https://corbettreport.com/senator-ron-johnson-dares-to-question-9-11/)



Turning the Tide on 9/11 with Curt Weldon:

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Congressman Curt Weldon appears on The Corbett Report to discuss his appearance at the upcoming Turning the Tide: 9/11 Justice in 2025 conference in Washington, D.C. James and Congressman Weldon discuss 9/11, Able Danger, Osama Bin Laden, intelligence operations and where they agree and where they disagree on the subject of 9/11 truth.


corbettreport.com/turning-the-tide%E2%80%A6with-curt-weldon (https://corbettreport.com/turning-the-tide%E2%80%A6with-curt-weldon/)

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[ExomatrixTV]

Before watching all that is below here, see also this (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119479-9-11-Truth-Still-Matters-Over-20-Years-Later&p=1684004&viewfull=1#post1684004), all related to current September 2025 developments!
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Jimmy Dore Interviews RG911 & AE911 — WTC Explosive Evidence on 9/11!

Written by: Richard Gage (https://richardgage911.org/author/richardgage/)

Bringing Tens of Thousands of Newcomers to the 9/11 Truth | Watch Along with Them — 45 Minutes

Jimmy Dore posted our LIVE interview with him from the other day. He encouraged us to share all the evidence we could in our limited time with him, and we did!

I was joined by structural engineer Kamal Obeid from Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth who addressed key issues including the impossibility of the free-fall collapse of World Trade Center Building 7.


Watch Now on Rumble: (https://rumble.com/v6t50o7-the-official-911-story-is-collapsing-w-richard-gage-and-kamal-obeid.html?mref=5grgb&mrefc=4)

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3c89bfa0-6a43-49e4-b81a-b56762bf1f38_760x426.jpeg (https://rumble.com/v6t50o7-the-official-911-story-is-collapsing-w-richard-gage-and-kamal-obeid.html?mref=5grgb&mrefc=4)

We addressed as many key points as we possibly could in the 45 minutes that we had:


The importance of the truth-telling that WI Senator Ron Johnson and former Congressman Curt Weldon are all about right now. Jimmy played excerpts of the Senator’s WTC comments on The Benny Show (https://richardgage911.org/yet-another-9-11-bombshell-wi-sen-ron-johnson-r-corrupt-investigation-inside-nistmolten-steelcontrolled-demolition-documentary-bravo-7/) including “molten metal…controlled demolition…Calling Out Bravo 7 documentary.” We are making sure that the Senator has the solid body of evidence that will back up his historic efforts to get a real 9/11 investigation. The more you help us, the more we can help the VIP’s who have the courage to speak out! (https://donorbox.org/empower-richardgage911-get-a-real-9-11-investigation)

We addressed these questions among many others on Jimmy Dore:


Why didn’t the American Institute of Architects issue even one bulletin on the catastrophic unprecedented destruction of 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 — the third worst structural failure in history?
Why didn’t NIST (National Institute of Standards & Technology) include in their 2004 report on the Twin Towers the 156 first responders who saw, heard, and experienced explosions? And, many of them before the collapse of the towers?
Why did NIST persist with their theory that the top section crushed the building section below while maintaining a near free-fall acceleration (when the top section was in fact destroyed in the first 3 seconds) — as if 90% of the steel gave no resistance whatsoever?
What caused the hundreds of laterally-ejected freely-flying 4-ton structural steel sections, at 80mph, landing 600 feet in every direction impaling themselves in skyscrapers all around them?
What cause the complete pulverization of 110 acre-sized concrete floors — 90,000 tons of concrete in each tower, and dispersed it from river to river across Lower Manhattan?
What was crushing the lower section of each tower, if the above steel and concrete, which was 2/3 of their weight, was NOT even available to crush it?!

The above questions were just the beginning of the 7-dozen key points of forensic, video, and eyewitness testimony we laid on Jimmy. Please let us know how you think we did. There’s always room for improvement.


Watch on Rumble (https://rumble.com/v6t50o7-the-official-911-story-is-collapsing-w-richard-gage-and-kamal-obeid.html?mref=5grgb&mrefc=4)
Before watching all that is above here, see also this (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119479-9-11-Truth-Still-Matters-Over-20-Years-Later&p=1684004&viewfull=1#post1684004), all related to current September 2025 developments!

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[Eric J (Viking)]

I know there are a few who disagree with this one. IMO there were no planes…

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1074926151479602?fs=e&fs=e

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOHkHTuCJv6/?igsh=ZXkzcjI2ZWUwM2E0


More here…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHNs2xsMnh_/?igsh=MTJwamg2cjU5NGk2OQ==

[Tintin]

I know there are a few who disagree with this one. IMO there were no planes…

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1074926151479602?fs=e&fs=e

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOHkHTuCJv6/?igsh=ZXkzcjI2ZWUwM2E0


More here…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHNs2xsMnh_/?igsh=MTJwamg2cjU5NGk2OQ==

Sorry Eric. What is it that we're being linked to here? I'm not an Instagram or Facebook user so bare links like this don't help me at all; thankyou.

[Tintin]

Not sure if the site named "Top Documentaries" has previously been mentioned on PA. They have several categories of free documentaries.

It has a list of over 20 documentaries in its 9/11 category. I've seen many of them, most are excellent and provide information from various angles.

Here's the link: https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/category/911/

Yes, it has, and although it's been years since I visited that site I do remember their 9-11 category did contain some good documentaries.

I'd collected some over the years myself, and placed them in this directory in the library: https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=911 Not every documentary made is in there but some that I think are of hopefully better value than others.

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Hym]

Yeah, They knew it was coming, m***er f***er! They f***ing planned it!

Not to ever, ever be lost when talking about that day is the remembrance of all those who died in the 2 towers, the hundreds of fire fighters and security personnel, the maintenance workers, and all of the various employees, even the bystanders, the visitors there. But we don't need to tell a single one of them anything about what happened that day because they were the best witnesses, the undeniable survivors who overwhelmingly testified that those 3 buildings were taken down by the intense efforts of demolition experts.

If you want to know who deserves the truth to be told about all of the planners and actors who perpetrated the events that day it is these people, their families, their colleagues and friends, including all of the clean up crews who died from exposure to the cancer-causing, banned building materials they were exposed to. They died, long painful deaths doing their best to clean up an entire area that no one should have been exposed to. The urgency to clean it all up did have a lot to do with suppressing the damning evidence of further crimes.

It is not a coincidence that Charlie Kirk was assassinated the day before the country was being beta-tested again by the criminals who committed the murders on 911 to measure, just as public perception of JFK was measured after his assassination, to see if the psy-ops were still working.

Geez, This is a common tactic of mkultra programming...Strawman talks, filled with stupidity.

The day his good friend and media colleague openly speaks more of the easily documented truths of that day, September 11, 2001, and the history that compels the darkness within it, I'll speak to Stephen Bannon about him repeating the lie he knows is the one of the most powerful Mind Fvcks he refused to face. Hell No, it was not Islamic extremists that planned and carried out the false flag of 9/11, and Bannon knows this. Hell, even idiots know this. Bannon represents, whether he likes it or not, the last step the political cucking class, sucking zion ass, must take to leave a legacy of truth.

He knows damn well that the real islamic terrorists of that time never had the capacity to be that sophisticated. Was it some islamic terrorists and their moving company, pre-positioned to film the "events on the day", watching the destruction from the Jersey Shore who were dancing and celebrating the death and destruction on 9/11, or were they the IDF crews who forgot to remove their kippahs that day?

The endless slop that comes up on podcasts and programs each 9/11 is darker every time. The good is that the public is now more able to recognize the wide variety of lies that they will then view as common with many of the other lies they have been fed in their lifetimes.

Bannon still creeps around many subjects he knows are very demonic lies, like his half ass 'mentioning' in passing at the end of a monologue hinting about what he knows of the events of Oct.7 in southern Gaza and how they were "suspect", insinuating that the IDF planned all of that, removing troops from the area, shutting down the worlds most sophisticated surveillance cameras, and the video of netenyouw, in 2019, at a cabinet meeting confirming that they should continue funding Hamas, as the alternative group was worse.

I think Kirk was assassinated for many things, but primarily for his beginning to talk about those videos of children being double tapped, shot twice, in the forehead and pregnant women being shot in the stomach, while the idf (the I. D.on't give a F.vck) soldiers gleefully proclaimed, "Two for one." I do think that the progress he showed in the depth of his experiences would have found him being then courageous enough to oppose and expose those crimes, and learning the price of commitment to even the thought of what it takes to truly be a Heart Centered, self-sacrificing human, a Christian in action. Does anyone see any group beyond that evil government in Judea as being complicit in Charlie's death, if not being intimately involved in carrying it out?

Just as openly evil as those thousands of videos prove the War Crimes of the extremely anti-Christian dogmas, of truly anti-Jewish zionists, there are many more visual and documented truths about the combined elite technical forces of these two countries carrying out the very lucrative psy-ops of 9/11. I appreciate the tenacities of those like Bannon and Bannon himself for the righteous things they are doing their best to expose and correct, but the b.s. he clings to about the world-changing crimes of 9/11 cannot wait to be dumped until he passes away, hopefully at a much older age and in at least a bit better shape.

It was the 3 Towers, not the 2 towers. It was the triple drop of the only metal building structures in history to be falsely blamed on planes and fires. Building 7, the pentagons very own cruise missile, aluminum and 4 inch thick steel not being structurally alike at all, don the rummy and the "missing" 2.3 trillion dollars, boxes of primer connectors in the hallway, not coincidentally labeled BB-18's, ones I call 'BiBi's 18's' , and the 'Sorry, Sir. No wmd's available at this time. Let's see what PR General Powell can do at the U.N.', the Un, the Not, the home of opposition to truth,......project for a new, and very F'd Up, american century...

We all here know of the many facets of the crimes committed by these governments, and it took many singular profiteering interests to pull off the most sale-able ones, but this has been going on far too long to even allow any aspect of the coverups to pass without exposing them, with as much expressive and detailed force as it takes. Yes the pen is mightier...when we're not already busy out here, living our lives.

Please do continue posting that crap so we can mark the time until all of the massive proofs of the crimes of 9/11 are accepted and considered, far beyond the reach of the Elders of Bernays, the Spawn of Tavistock and the Banking Elite.

So, anyone 'hijacking' a plane had to have turned off all of the active air corridor emergency response systems, the u.s.air force, the national guard units.... or was that the same day an "active, simulation drill" was planned? Did the invisible, yet video captured, "hijackers" have that authority? Was it their clout, being that 15 of them were Saudis, that gave them the power to stop all of the massive, constantly trained, pilot scrambling protections that were somehow lost that day?

I forgot, did the global power of the military-industrial-congressional complex attack Saudi Arabia for their heinous attack on our soil, or was it some other country, like Iraq? I forgot, it's been 24 years already....and that's understandable.


That was my first thought. Who turned off the lights that kept the massive, protective military infrastructure alive and instantly responsive to all threats?

Those simple observations spelled False Flags, the ones that are always profit making crimes.

$9 Trillion dollars later, 1 million innocent civilian lives lost, maybe 5,500 u.s. soldiers, and others, gone and 25,000 more lost to future suicidal, programmed ideations....All for Profit and Control, lawyers up the ass everywhere. Knowing them all, they had already written the new laws created to remove constitutional and common law guarantees. Bonus upon Bonus upon Bonus for the cruel, the wicked, the evil.

'Merikuh....Don't you love their awesome show of continuing the global practice of war profiteering, once mastered by their betters across the pond. What a lineage from their european ancestors. Karma is not a bitch, it's a sleeping giant resting in the darkened souls of humans...and it's showing up now to collect.... It's nothing new, even as it's time is due.

Did anyone who did not use their voice, their humanity, their ability to personally sacrifice for the truth to expose the crimes of the elite, expect anything else to happen?

They had to have planned all of that, including telling the D.C. based, SEC audit crew the day before, on the 10th of September, that were told they were NOT going to go to the twin towers the next day, on Sept.11th, to do the audit, of guess who, on what floor?.

Hmmm....a very high gov't/G ranked official, earning bonuses well above $100k/yr., on duty to meet up with subordinates, and being one who was given the serious deference of all higher ups in that office? Then, how is it that not one of those employees spoke to anyone but their loved ones about it, not one expressing their gratitude to an insider for sparing their lives? Who the F was that guy anyway, and how did he get the permission to spare those people in DC? Where is his statue? Hmmm...?

God Bless Tulsi in all that she may be doing now to set things right with her position in government, those important pursuits of justice that are non-911 related, but saying that day's FF was carried out by Al Queda and not the Taliban, or it was the Taliban and not Al Queda...no matter. That was either a show of profound stupidity or a proof of tangental complicity after the fact.

My dog farted while one of us was laughing at her remarks during that democratic debate. I do remember that unique insight, that striking coincidence of my dog expressing the absurdity of her comments in the only way he possibly could. Right on, Jake. I agree. Like her a lot, but that crap will not pass, even a dog's discernment.

She knew damn well, in enough detail, that any global operation is never left to amateurs, like the touristy, alcohol drinking "muslims" who couldn't even fly a Cessna well enough to pass a basic flight test down south in Florida unless there is a very special mullah/rabbinical-dispensation, with some carry-all, laminated, papal imprimatur-created time that coincides with the all forgiving, islamic rumspringa, one that even I could not have envisioned.

Oh, did anyone work out how they got those victims on the planes diverted to nearby air force bases, like the one west of Boston, to say the things they said, before a few of those victims figured out that they all were going to be killed. Ah, global military cunts, slime all that those special ones are, thinking they were so clever in convincing passengers to read those scripts, telling those they were about to murder that it was "Just a Drill. Your participation is considered a very Patriotic service to Your Country"....yet killers not smart enough to know that all in-flight cell phones were removed some time before the flights that day, while personal cell phone use at 35,000 feet was impossible on Sept.11, 2001. Of course they knew that they could not have anyone accessing in-flight, carrier-operated cell phones available on that day, let alone personal cell phones...

And naturally so, at least a few victims repeating the death script, the Todd Beamer scripts, the flight attendant scripts, did their best to say those things that no seasoned flight attendant would ever say. For those of you partially awake, why not travel into their thoughts during the moments they realized they were going to die....at the hands of their own country, their own people, for fvcks sake.

Find those bodies....oh, wait...they got that covered...if any bodies were presented, after being murdered, they were the victims of high-jackings that resulted in deadly airline crashes, weren't they? That's why the cremations, the unrecognizable catastrophic injuries, were in those conditions, isn't it?

You likely didn't face what those of us who have been attacked, threatened, discriminated against, even killed, like one of my sikh brother's sikh friends in Mesa, Az, was, after the False Flag, all the while being a sihk himself (enunciated as sih-k, not "seek"/sikh) having absolutely nothing to do 9/11, let alone with the patsied muslims the globalists sold to the public, blaming 9/11 on them.

One of the following years later I was approached by a muslim woman who thanked me for "taking the crap", as a sikh, the pressure that was meant for muslims, the very same ones who could not possibly have had anything to do with the crimes the u.s. and israeli governments, and every single god damned news outlet covered and committed on that day.

When only 2 hours later, the media whores repeated the intel lie that it was one specific muslim that ordered the attack on this country, Osama Bin Laden, I knew, in spite of how impossible that could have been known so quickly without investigation, how hard it would be for both sikhs and muslims in the states, even tho not a single one of either very different faiths with no real shared practices, prayers or paths-which often led to violent conflicts with each other in the past, could have done any of that.

No offense to muslims, as the vast majority of them live peaceful lives, as do most Christians and Torah Jews, but the Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Islam and Christianity have no connection to being a GurSihk. We protect anyone, anywhere, and history has born that out.

At one time in India while the sihks were fighting the muslim moguls in protection of their rights to keep their hair and sing their sacred prayers without coercion, and being vastly outnumbered, as always was the case, the Hindus gave their oldest son to fight alongside them, taking on our middle name Singh, Lion. The reason for that is sihks factually know that their path is not any better than any other. Honoring difference and serving without the b.s. is the value, but media and those who use it as a propaganda tool and a tool to silence the truth have done their best to sell the agenda that only runs on hate and division.

The exceptions on that date were only those fake muslims in the Saudi intel services-under u.s. intel instructions, who were the ones that had anything to do with it. Being a sikh from even before that time offered the very few of us, both American and India-Indian Americans a very different set of internal strengths that had to be experienced, as a result of the abject stupidity accepted by the public. Like Castaneda said, it is best understood as the gift of being subjected to a tyranny not expected at all, the pressure to survive that creates the deeper courage and even more awakened sight.

Citizens of the west in their trained stupidity did little to nothing to watch and listen, to understand the obvious on so many levels, in protection of the peaceful rights of others, but hey they've done this many times before. As much as muslims are vilified for the evil of that day, there was not one, not a single one in the employ of the two governments who carried out that massive criminal enterprise, and all of the death and profiteering that followed to this very day.

Wear a turban, just one hour of one day in any public place and learn a little. Then again, maybe not. The outer dressing is a very personal choice and it has proven to be absolutely no guarantee of sincerity or of the person living it. Sometimes in this country it is just a tighter wrapping for the insecurities and faults they inherited, or lived. In the rare case it helps remove the dross, the weight of the karmic dharmas societies entrain their slaves to accept.

Know every step it takes to be convinced by your government, and its well-paid and well-trained presstitutes in all forms of media, of anyone else's guilt and you'll know who isn't, guilty that is. All that is left is the profiteers. It isn't that complicated.

[Bill Ryan]

Here are three videos of a major three-day event happening now. The first day was yesterday, and the second and third today and tomorrow. :thumbsup:

Turning the Tide: 9/11 Justice in 2025 — Day 1 with Sen. Ron Johnson, Richard Gage and More


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNHWKqTCACI
Turning the Tide: 9/11 Justice in 2025 — Day 2 with Tucker Carlson, Dennis Kucinich and More

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Turning the Tide: 9/11 Justice in 2025 — Day 3: Presentations and Discussion on the Pentagon Attack

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[Rizotto]

Interesting that the Israel component of 9/11 is finally making its way into major world media. (I guess RT isn't exactly 'mainstream' media.)
Hopefully Tucker Carlson will also be examining the indications that Israel orchestrated the 9/11 attack.

But I just thought of Charlie Kirk's murder, and his previous statements that Israel might try to kill him, presumably because he'd become outspoken about the Eptsein-Mossad connections. It may well be that one of the goals for the assassination of Charlie Kirk was also to discourage other critics of Israel from being outspoken about all their nefarious operations and control of USA ...
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https://www.rt.com/news/624424-tucker-carlson-israeli-spies/

September 10, 2025

Tucker Carlson claims Israeli spies knew about 9/11 attacks
The US journalist says his forthcoming documentary series on the 9/11 attacks will explore overlooked truths

Israeli intelligence knew beforehand of the 9/11, American journalist Tucker Carlson has claimed. The topic, as well as other long-buried facts, will be explored in his upcoming documentary series on the attacks.

Carlson made the remarks on Tuesday when he appeared on Piers Morgan’s Uncensored News. The journalist pointed out the Israeli leadership never actually hid its attitude to the attack and believed they had a positive impact on the US-Israel ties.

“Of course I didn’t allege that the Jews did it. I don’t even know what that means. I think, in fact, saying things like that is a way to discredit real questions,” Carlson said.

“Benjamin Netanyahu on camera, right after [the attacks] he said it was a good thing because it brings the United States into a conflict that we’ve been involved in on an existential level for decades,” he added.

Carlson apparently referred to the remarks Netanyahu made back in 2002 during the US House hearings, when he said that the democracies “sometimes have to be bombed into going to war” and likened the 9/11 events to the Pearl Harbor attack.

The journalist also invoked the “Israeli art students” affair, stating that the public knowledge about it has been very limited, with reports on it ultimately vanishing.

“We know that a group of ‘Israeli art students’ - who clearly were not art students, clearly some of them were aligned with the Israeli intelligence - were arrested and held for quite some time in the US before being released without charges. And we know that a group of them - I’m quoting an FBI document, not the Internet - filmed the attacks on 9/11, and… ‘seemed to have foreknowledge’ of those attacks,” Carlson stated.

The first sightings of “Israeli art students” date back to late 2000, when they began to show up at US federal law enforcement and military agencies’ buildings, trying to peddle artworks and socialize with agents. The “students” repeatedly appeared at unmarked locations and hidden side entrances and even visited some agents at their homes.

According to media reports of the time, at least 140 Israeli nationals engaged in such activities were arrested between early 2001 and the 9/11 attacks, while a further 60 were detained shortly after. Moreover, some groups of the “students” reportedly rented properties in close vicinity to residencies of the 9/11 attacks perpetrators.

[Inversion]

It's the 24th anniversary of 9/11. Over the years I've pondered an episode of the TV series Fringe. Dr. Bell played by Leonard Nimoy aka Spock was in a parallel earth where the event didn't happen. He said, "Different choices were made."

Google AI


In the TV series Fringe, the phrase "different choices were made" is a reference to the existence of a parallel universe and is closely associated with Leonard Nimoy's character, William Bell.

Key details about the quote and Nimoy's role:

William Bell's explanation: Bell, the founder of the powerful corporation Massive Dynamic and Walter Bishop's former lab partner, uses this phrase to explain the subtle but significant differences between the two universes. In a parallel New York, where the Twin Towers are still standing, he explains that it is because "different choices were made".

The season one finale: Nimoy's character is introduced at the end of the Season 1 finale, "There's More Than One of Everything." In the episode's final scene, Agent Olivia Dunham is transported to the parallel universe and meets Bell in his office in the South Tower of the World Trade Center.

Significance: This revelation sets up the mythology for the entire series, establishing the existence of a parallel universe and the threat of a war between the two worlds.

Nimoy's later appearances: Nimoy appeared in later seasons as well, including in an animated sequence during the third season episode "Lysergic Acid Diethylamide," where his character's consciousness is trapped inside Olivia's mind. His role in the Season 4 episodes "Letters of Transit" and "Brave New World" was his final television appearance before his death in 2015.

[Johnnycomelately]

Here are three videos of a major three-day event happening now. The first day was yesterday, and the second and third today and tomorrow. :thumbsup:

Turning the Tide: 9/11 Justice in 2025 — Day 1 with Sen. Ron Johnson, Richard Gage and More


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNHWKqTCACI


:bump:

Am bumping this (first of 3 from Bill’s post #167). Am 3 hrs deep on L=5:44:43.

Edit: just watched to 4:03:46, end of a great debunk of Dr. Judy Woods’ DEW theory/theories that started ~3:30. I always thought she’s not stupid, but her ideas are.

[mountain_jim]

copying here


https://x.com/DavidBCollum/status/1966286767319138717

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Tucker dropping compelling truth bombs to Piers Morgan in anticipation of his five-part 9/11 documentary...

— Dave Collum (@DavidBCollum) September 11, 2025

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"Calling Me Names Is NOT Gonna Stop Me!" Tucker Carlson on Ted Cruz, Trump, Israel & 9/11

Piers Morgan Uncensored
4.11M subscribers



1,369,868 views Sep 8, 2025 #tuckercarlson #piersmorgan #interview

The biggest dividing line in politics is arguably no longer right or left but to do with trust. There are those who broadly trust our institutions and our experts, and increasingly others who don’t trust any of these things, suspecting a ‘deep state’, a swamp, and a cabal of vested interests which are anything but ‘America First.’

That dividing line explains a lot about MAGA’s division on everything from the Epstein Files to US support for Israel’s war - and the decision to bomb Iran. And this week marks 24 years since 9/11 - the deadliest terrorist attack in US history.

Tucker Carlson is about to release a documentary series with the tantalising tagline: “It’s time Americans learned what actually happened.” He joins Piers Morgan to tell us more about his theories and also lifts the lid on whether he apologized to Donald Trump over his comments on the Middle East.



(just reading the comments on this video shows the waking up and questioning by many)

[Johnnycomelately]

:bump:

Am bumping this (first of 3 from Bill’s post #167). Am 3 hrs deep on L=5:44:43.

Edit: just watched to 4:03:46, end of a great debunk of Dr. Judy Woods’ DEW theory/theories that started ~3:30. I always thought she’s not stupid, but her ideas are.


Watched Part 2 yesterday, probably didn’t see the whole thing, honestly don’t remember much.

So am now watching Part 3/3, and it is lively. Serious contention between the Yes, a plane! contingent, and the No plane! side. This episode (day 3/3 of the conference) is about the Pentagon event.

David Chandler, who started his talk at about 3 hrs even iirc (of L=8:18:05), seemed to lead the yes side. After he finished, or soonish after, the format changed to shorter talks with criticisms and rebuttals between the 2 sides. This segment ended at near 6 and a half hours, where I am now, and I think I’ll leave the rest for later.

I have entertained the no-plane (at the Pentagon) theory for a while, but now am drawn to the arguments of Chandler et. al.

Turning the Tide: 9/11 Justice in 2025 — Day 3 Presentations and Discussion on the Pentagon Attack

Redacted

Sept 12, 2025


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMu4Q9bvloI[/url]

[ExomatrixTV]

Here is What REALLY Happened on 9/11 ... ISRAEL CONNECTION!:

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I have seen the video of these people AND they were also INVITED by Israeli mainstream media to be interviewed as well, I saw that too in the same clip long time ago! ... Maybe I have it somewhere in my deep archives research suppressed news for 35 years now! Me being Radio & TV producer/hist for Amsterdam and co-founder of 2 magazines discussing all kinds of suppressed news.

[mountain_jim]

copying here (have not watched yet)


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The first of our five-part series on 9/11. Enjoy.


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970269378190118920

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update - I just watched, and the case for CIA/Saudi involvement in 'trying to get a source within Al Queda' and not notifying the FBI was well documented, with Brennan's substantial involvement, but nothing so far to indicate Tucker suspects they were really just establishing these 'hijackers' as a 'patsy' for what Cheney and Mossad and others really had planned.

So far the mechanics of CIA fingerprints on the OP and later Bush admin coverups for the commission are being documented, but this does not appear to be going to go nearly as deep as it needs to.

[mountain_jim]

Guess this is an excerpt from a later episode

https://tuckercarlson.com/the911files

- Tucker's reach should help red-pill a lot more folks



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Tucker Carlson’s new 9/11 series covers the
Dancing Israelis and Israeli art students.

The truth is going mainstream
and nothing can stop it



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The whole interview from September 2001

The world will soon know the truth

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1971324014279917971

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@VigilantFox
Tucker Carlson becomes visibly outraged as he demands to know who bought the put options on airline stocks shortly BEFORE 9/11.

He says the authors of the 9/11 report KNOW who made these bets — but after 24 years, they’ve still kept their identities secret.

“What? I don’t need to get to directed energy weapons to find a conspiracy,” Carlson objected. “I just found it.”

“They said they admitted, ‘We know who made these bets in publicly traded companies and we’re not telling you who they are.’”

“How do we not have the right to know that? How could you ever keep that from us?” Carlson asked.

“Those people need to answer questions TODAY, and anyone hiding that information from you is part of the cover-up by definition.”

[Russian Bear]

I thought the topic was closed; many people know why the globalists, through the CIA, blew up the buildings.

1) They needed a pretext to invade Iraq and seize the oil.
2) This served as the trigger for the US military intervention in Afghanistan, supposedly to punish terrorists. In reality, this action pursued far-reaching US geopolitical goals: to gain a foothold in the oil-rich region of the Middle East, to seize advantageous strategic positions from which Washington could extend its influence to Central Asia and the Caucasus and threaten the interests of Russia, China, and India.
3) To gain public support for the militarization of the United States.
4) The events of September 11, 2001, in the United States became the precondition for the introduction of biometric documents. After the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, biometric passports began to appear in an increasing number of countries.

5) Larry Silverstein is an entrepreneur who insured the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings for $3.6 billion in 2001, with a separate clause for a terrorist attack.

After the events of September 11, 2001, Silverstein tried to recover $7.2 billion from the insurance company, arguing that the incident was a double terrorist attack. However, he ultimately received compensation of $4.6 billion.

In total, insurance payments following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks amounted to $40 billion, including payments for life, health, property, transportation, liability, and aviation liability.

5) September 11, 2001, was a sacrifice, although it has no scientific basis. But we know what's happening in the world and remember Baghem Grove well.

6) As a result of the fire and collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on September 11, 2001, some important documents and other objects burned or turned to dust and debris. One of the buildings damaged in the attacks housed a CIA office with a repository of important files. It was advantageous for the globalists to destroy these documents so that no one would know about their machinations and dark deeds.

In general, many other facts beneficial to the globalists can be found. But I have provided a few.

They did exactly the same trick with the Titanic, and you thought that ship sank by a fatal accident?

[Johnnycomelately]

I thought the topic was closed; many people know why the globalists, through the CIA, blew up the buildings.

1) They needed a pretext to invade Iraq and seize the oil.
2) This served as the trigger for the US military intervention in Afghanistan, supposedly to punish terrorists. In reality, this action pursued far-reaching US geopolitical goals: to gain a foothold in the oil-rich region of the Middle East, to seize advantageous strategic positions from which Washington could extend its influence to Central Asia and the Caucasus and threaten the interests of Russia, China, and India.
3) To gain public support for the militarization of the United States.
4) The events of September 11, 2001, in the United States became the precondition for the introduction of biometric documents. After the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, biometric passports began to appear in an increasing number of countries.

5) Larry Silverstein is an entrepreneur who insured the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings for $3.6 billion in 2001, with a separate clause for a terrorist attack.

After the events of September 11, 2001, Silverstein tried to recover $7.2 billion from the insurance company, arguing that the incident was a double terrorist attack. However, he ultimately received compensation of $4.6 billion.

In total, insurance payments following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks amounted to $40 billion, including payments for life, health, property, transportation, liability, and aviation liability.

5) September 11, 2001, was a sacrifice, although it has no scientific basis. But we know what's happening in the world and remember Baghem Grove well.

6) As a result of the fire and collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on September 11, 2001, some important documents and other objects burned or turned to dust and debris. One of the buildings damaged in the attacks housed a CIA office with a repository of important files. It was advantageous for the globalists to destroy these documents so that no one would know about their machinations and dark deeds.

In general, many other facts beneficial to the globalists can be found. But I have provided a few.

They did exactly the same trick with the Titanic, and you thought that ship sank by a fatal accident?

Hi Russian Bear. Please say more about Baghem Grove. My search netted noting.

Your awareness of those Sept event seems adequate. I’m interested in your take on details of the happening, mostly the kinetic aspects but also anything else.

My theory abt why Putin hasn’t blown the whistle, is the possible counter-blackmail re: the apartment bombings that got him prominence for actions against Chechnya. Apologies if you have posted on that previously, I tend to not read your wall-of-text posts.

Cheers from Alberta.

[grapevine]

tWc4xFGXcSY
I've included this short because of all the comments by the side of it on YouTube by members of the military. It makes you wonder what side they'll be on when the shtf worldwide.

Just one of 32,000 replies:
: "@corinabeale5962
11 days ago
I'm a vet and went into a top secret govt position after. I saw things with my own eyes and all I can say is the news flat out lies All the time. I've lost friends over things because they'd rather believe the news over what I told them I saw myself."

[mountain_jim]

shameless gaslighting in response to Tucker's video?

https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1971862679376875609

1971862679376875609


Concerned Citizen
@BGatesIsaPyscho
·
3h
Benjamin Netanyahu says there were “Dancing Palestinians - dancing on the rooftops after 9/11”.


https://www.21cir.com/2023/09/164551/




Shortly after 8:46 a.m. on the day of the attacks, just minutes after the first plane struck the World Trade Center, five men — later revealed to be Israeli nationals — had positioned themselves in the parking lot of the Doric Apartment Complex in Union City, New Jersey, where they were seen taking pictures and filming the attacks while also celebrating the destruction of the towers and “high fiving” each other.

At least one eyewitness interviewed by the FBI had seen the Israelis’ van in the parking lot as early as 8:00 a.m. that day, more than 40 minutes prior to the attack. The story received coverage in U.S. mainstream media at the time but has since been largely forgotten.

The men — Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg, Oded Ellner, Yaron Shimuel and Omar Marmari — were subsequently apprehended by law enforcement and claimed to be Israeli tourists on a “working holiday” in the United States where they were employed by a moving company, Urban Moving Systems. Upon his arrest, Sivan Kurzberg told the arresting officer, “We are Israeli; we are not your problem. Your problems are our problems, The Palestinians are the problem.”

For years, the official story has been that these individuals, while they had engaged in “immature” behavior by celebrating and being “visibly happy” in their documenting of the attacks, had no prior knowledge of the attack. However, newly released FBI copies of the photos taken by the five Israelis strongly suggest that these individuals had prior knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center. The copies of the photos were obtained via a FOIA request made by a private citizen.


According to a former high-ranking American intelligence official who spoke to the Jewish Daily Forward in 2002, the FBI concluded in its investigation that the five Israelis arrested “were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, NJ, served as a front.” At least two of the men arrested were determined to have direct links to the Mossad after their names appeared in a CIA-FBI database of foreign intelligence operatives.

According to one of their lawyers, one of the men, Paul Kurzberg, had previously worked for the Mossad in another country prior to arriving in the United States. Another of those arrested, Oded Ellner, subsequently stated on Israeli TV that the five Israelis had been in New York at the time “to document the event,” meaning the attack on the World Trade Center.

[Russian Bear]

Hi Russian Bear. Please say more about Baghem Grove. My search netted noting.

Your awareness of those Sept event seems adequate. I’m interested in your take on details of the happening, mostly the kinetic aspects but also anything else.

My theory abt why Putin hasn’t blown the whistle, is the possible counter-blackmail re: the apartment bombings that got him prominence for actions against Chechnya. Apologies if you have posted on that previously, I tend to not read your wall-of-text posts.

Cheers from Alberta.

Comrade Johnnycomelately , I didn't see your message! Understand, I'll start working on this and prepare an article about it, but it will take some time. I still don't see when people message me. If I don't respond for a long time, you should send me a private message, because I always reply to comments.

[Russian Bear]

I thought the topic was closed; many people know why the globalists, through the CIA, blew up the buildings.

1) They needed a pretext to invade Iraq and seize the oil.
2) This served as the trigger for the US military intervention in Afghanistan, supposedly to punish terrorists. In reality, this action pursued far-reaching US geopolitical goals: to gain a foothold in the oil-rich region of the Middle East, to seize advantageous strategic positions from which Washington could extend its influence to Central Asia and the Caucasus and threaten the interests of Russia, China, and India.
3) To gain public support for the militarization of the United States.
4) The events of September 11, 2001, in the United States became the precondition for the introduction of biometric documents. After the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, biometric passports began to appear in an increasing number of countries.

5) Larry Silverstein is an entrepreneur who insured the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings for $3.6 billion in 2001, with a separate clause for a terrorist attack.

After the events of September 11, 2001, Silverstein tried to recover $7.2 billion from the insurance company, arguing that the incident was a double terrorist attack. However, he ultimately received compensation of $4.6 billion.

In total, insurance payments following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks amounted to $40 billion, including payments for life, health, property, transportation, liability, and aviation liability.

5) September 11, 2001, was a sacrifice, although it has no scientific basis. But we know what's happening in the world and remember Baghem Grove well.

6) As a result of the fire and collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on September 11, 2001, some important documents and other objects burned or turned to dust and debris. One of the buildings damaged in the attacks housed a CIA office with a repository of important files. It was advantageous for the globalists to destroy these documents so that no one would know about their machinations and dark deeds.

In general, many other facts beneficial to the globalists can be found. But I have provided a few.

They did exactly the same trick with the Titanic, and you thought that ship sank by a fatal accident?

Hi Russian Bear. Please say more about Baghem Grove. My search netted noting.

Your awareness of those Sept event seems adequate. I’m interested in your take on details of the happening, mostly the kinetic aspects but also anything else.

My theory abt why Putin hasn’t blown the whistle, is the possible counter-blackmail re: the apartment bombings that got him prominence for actions against Chechnya. Apologies if you have posted on that previously, I tend to not read your wall-of-text posts.

Cheers from Alberta.

Comrade, the information I published is rather sparse. So far I've found this. Maybe I'll continue searching and add some new material: satanists in Power: The Bohemian Grove and Its Secrets – All About the World Government's "Vacation" https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130447-satanists-in-Power-The-Bohemian-Grove-and-Its-Secrets----All-About-the-World-Government-s-Vacation&p=1686944&viewfull=1#post1686944

[mountain_jim]

copying here (have not watched yet)


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970458136327729382

1970458136327729382


Tucker Carlson

@TuckerCarlson
·
45m
The first of our five-part series on 9/11. Enjoy.


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970269378190118920

1970269378190118920


update - I just watched, and the case for CIA/Saudi involvement in 'trying to get a source within Al Queda' and not notifying the FBI was well documented, with Brennan's substantial involvement, but nothing so far to indicate Tucker suspects they were really just establishing these 'hijackers' as a 'patsy' for what Cheney and Mossad and others really had planned.

So far the mechanics of CIA fingerprints on the OP and later Bush admin coverups for the commission are being documented, but this does not appear to be going to go nearly as deep as it needs to.



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Here is part 2


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1972994844088799342

1972994844088799342

Tucker Carlson


The 9/11 Files: The Cover-up Commission | Ep 2

[Vicus]

https://www.sott.net/image/s36/733249/super/1_Book_cover_.jpg

Comment: Possibly the most truthful account of 9/11 ever written...by the one person most qualified to report.

Kurt Sonnenfeld's statement at the presentation of his book El Perseguido (Persecuted) on May 8, 2009, at the 35th Annual Buenos Aires Book Fair in Argentina, where he lives in exile since 2003. Therein, Sonnenfeld tells the history of his persecution at the hands of U.S. authorities over the course of more than seven years after his official mission to Ground Zero as FEMA's videographer ... an experience that turned him into an inconvenient witness.

Buenos Aires - May 8, 2009 - Statement by Kurt Sonnenfeld:

There has never been an independent commission officially assigned to investigate the horrible events that occurred on September 11, 2001, although independent commissions for tragedies of this magnitude are customary. From the beginning, the investigation into the attacks on the World Trade Center has been tightly controlled directly from the White House. And now almost all of the evidence has been destroyed.

Does anyone believe the official version offered as to what happened on September 11, 2001? There are many who say that the wildest conspiracy theory of all is the theory offered by the United States Government. Do you know that on the weekend prior to the attacks on the WTC, all electricity was cut off for approximately 36 hours, including the security cameras and control systems in a highly irregular "maintenance operation"? Do you know that in the weeks leading up to the attacks there were several unusual evacuations of both towers? Do you know that the company in charge of security at the World Trade Center was directed by Marvin Bush, George Bush's younger brother, and Wirt Walker III, George Bush's cousin? Do you know that the same security company also lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," and provides security for classified and high-risk government sites? Do you know that hundreds of government personnel were pre-positioned in New York City on September 10, preparing to do a large scale simulation of a terrorist attack to be carried out on September 12? FEMA officials had already set up their command post at Pier 92 near the World Trade Center one day before the attacks.

Do you know that the 47-story Salomon Smith Barney Building, officially known as Seven World Trade Center, imploded at 5:20 in the afternoon of September 11, 2001, some nine hours after American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower? It took only about 6.5 seconds for the entire structure to fall straight down into itself, a half second more than the amount of time it would have taken a stone to hit the ground if you had dropped it from the roof in a vacuum. The collapse of Building Seven left a curiously small and tidy rubble pile, and the buildings to either side of it were relatively undamaged. It had not been hit by an airplane and had suffered only minor injuries to its structure when the Twin Towers collapsed.

The Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Internal Revenue Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Office of Emergency Management's "Crisis Center" occupied huge amounts of space there, spanning several floors of the building. Other federal agencies had offices there as well. After September 11, it was discovered that concealed within Building Seven was the largest clandestine domestic station of the Central Intelligence Agency outside of Washington DC, a base of operations from which to spy on diplomats of the United Nations and to conduct counterterrorism and counterintelligence missions.

But the 9/11 Commission Report, supposed to investigate thoroughly all aspects and consequences of the attacks for devising public safety and national security recommandations, does not even mention Building Seven, its collapse, nor the bizarre specifics of that collapse. Nor did NIST, the government agency assigned to investigate the collapse of the Twin Towers. Like the 9/11 Commission, they completely ignored the suspicious collapse of Building Seven procrastinating the publication of their report time and again. [1]

Do you know that one of George Bush's top Cabinet Secretaries later said that the conquest of Iraq had been planned since he first took the Office of President and that an invasion had been discussed at the first meeting of the National Security Council? But there had not yet been justification strong enough to invade. Not until September 11, 2001. The attacks on the World Trade Center gave them the justification they had been seeking.

But the first casualty of all war is the truth. The reasons given for attacking Iraq were knowingly fraudulent. Intelligence documents that had been submitted as evidence were deliberately fabricated. There were no Weapons of Mass Destruction and there were no links to al Qaeda. We all know that the U.S. authorities tried to deceive us about the existence of clandestine prisons around the world and the systemic torture of prisoners. The U.S. government lied. International law was violated.

Again the media was manipulated, and some willingly played the role of accomplice. US news crews signed contracts with the military that limited what they were allowed to report, and a few reporters were even paid by the government to write stories favorable to the administration. As Josef Goebbels said, "He who controls the medium controls the message." And thus the aggression continued.

My book is not about conspiracy theories, but I do offer my theory. And my theory is that there was a conspiracy and I approach the subject from my point of view and experience. But mostly it is about the bizarre events that have happened (and are still happening) to me after my tour of duty at Ground Zero.

I was at the world Trade Center. I was part of the official investigation. Previously I had been an official videographer for the US government in critical or catastrophic situations. I've done work characterized as confidential at many classified and maximum security locations related to the storage, development and transportation of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons or their components and participated in simulations and training for disasters, catastrophic accidents and terrorist incidents for many different agencies.

Immediately after the attacks on the World Trade Center, the entire area in lower Manhattan was sealed off to the public and to the news media. All cameras were prohibited inside the secured perimeter and any "unauthorized" cameras were immediately confiscated. I was given total and absolute access, however, and was instructed to document for the investigation and to provide some "sanitized" pool video to virtually every news network in the world. But I never handed my tapes over to the authorities.

Since then, over the course of the past seven years, I have been falsely accused, imprisoned twice in two different countries, tortured, put in solitary confinement, followed across two continents and slandered relentlessly in a campaign to dehumanize me so that no one will protest and to discredit me so that when I talk, no one will listen. Four years ago, the US embassy sent a note to Argentine officials to confiscate all of my possessions and documents and to remit them to the United States. To this day, my wife, my twin daughters and I live in a closed world surrounded by threat and harassment.

I wrote this book to save my family.

https://www.sott.net/image/s36/733250/super/1_Photos_released_in_response_.jpg

https://www.sott.net/article/501749-Kurt-Sonnenfeld-an-inconvenient-9-11-witness

Vicus comment:

I remember some comments from him about "steel columns cut in angle and still molten steel ..."

[Eric J (Viking)]

Just for reference… to whom it may concern.

The No-Plane Theory

“Any video that shows an aluminum airplane with a fiberglass nose cone gliding through a steel and concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion.”

I am firmly in the “No Plane” camp. Richard Roth, speaking on behalf of the architectural firm that designed the Towers, described each of the perimeter walls as essentially “a steel beam 209′ deep.” Again, 14-inch steel beams every 40 inches. An aluminum airplane can’t pass through a wall of steel. What about the 52-foot-tall tail section and the 159-foot wingspan? They would have broken off on impact and crumpled to the ground.

See an Aluminum F4 Phantom Hit a Concrete Wall at 500 MPH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niAxSupDiMY

Baxter Dimytry wrote that records from 911, according to BTS statistics, show that both flights 11 and 77 officially never took off on 9/11, and “Investigators who have checked the tail numbers for the planes that departed as UA 93 and UA 175 on 9/11 (namely N591UA and N612UA, respectively) believe that these planes are still in service. If so, and if AA 11 and AA 77 never existed, then the number of Boeing 757s and 767s destroyed on 9/11 was not four, as the US government maintains, but rather zero.” See the article here:

https://jameshfetzer.org/2021/03/cia-pilot-presents-evidence-that-no-planes-hit-twin-towers-on-9-11/#

Many people, including former CIA and Commercial pilot John Lear and 911 expert and founder of Scholars For 911 Truth, Jim Fetzer, believe “Airborne Holographic Projection” was used on 9/11. Most Americans were unaware of the US Air Force’s Advanced Hologram Technology. See:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/E3YaOLqzcwzF/

[ExomatrixTV]

Tucker Carlson's 9/11 Documentary Is Making People NERVOUS:

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00:00 Tucker Carlson releases 9/11 docuseries
02:50 Building 7
11:30 Did anyone know 9/11 was going to happen?

[mountain_jim]

now part 3

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1975531554513260991

1975531554513260991

Tucker Carlson

@TuckerCarlson

The 9/11 Files: They Could Have Stopped It | Ep 3




copying here (have not watched yet)


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970458136327729382

1970458136327729382


Tucker Carlson

@TuckerCarlson
·
45m
The first of our five-part series on 9/11. Enjoy.


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970269378190118920

1970269378190118920


update - I just watched, and the case for CIA/Saudi involvement in 'trying to get a source within Al Queda' and not notifying the FBI was well documented, with Brennan's substantial involvement, but nothing so far to indicate Tucker suspects they were really just establishing these 'hijackers' as a 'patsy' for what Cheney and Mossad and others really had planned.

So far the mechanics of CIA fingerprints on the OP and later Bush admin coverups for the commission are being documented, but this does not appear to be going to go nearly as deep as it needs to.



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Here is part 2


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1972994844088799342

1972994844088799342

Tucker Carlson


The 9/11 Files: The Cover-up Commission | Ep 2

[sdv]

Tucker Carlson claims 9/11 could have been stopped. But how? The erosion of rights in the USA happened after 9/11. I think Americans have become so used to fascism at home and terrorism abroad that they do not ask the right questions. On what basis would the FBI have arrested or deported the hijackers? Perhaps the FBI could have got a court order to allow them to put the men under surveillance, but I assume that was being done, and perhaps illegally? Supposedly the hijackers were flagged but were allowed to board the planes without being questioned or searched. Did the FBI have a legitimate reason to question them and thus stop them getting on the plane?

[mountain_jim]

here is part 4.. (good normie coverage for building 7 - and the highly suspicious removal of all the steel and other evidence within the rubble)


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1978068267219485158

1978068267219485158

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now part 3

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1975531554513260991

1975531554513260991

Tucker Carlson

@TuckerCarlson

The 9/11 Files: They Could Have Stopped It | Ep 3




copying here (have not watched yet)


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970458136327729382

1970458136327729382


Tucker Carlson

@TuckerCarlson
·
45m
The first of our five-part series on 9/11. Enjoy.


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1970269378190118920

1970269378190118920


update - I just watched, and the case for CIA/Saudi involvement in 'trying to get a source within Al Queda' and not notifying the FBI was well documented, with Brennan's substantial involvement, but nothing so far to indicate Tucker suspects they were really just establishing these 'hijackers' as a 'patsy' for what Cheney and Mossad and others really had planned.

So far the mechanics of CIA fingerprints on the OP and later Bush admin coverups for the commission are being documented, but this does not appear to be going to go nearly as deep as it needs to.



///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Here is part 2


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1972994844088799342

1972994844088799342

Tucker Carlson


The 9/11 Files: The Cover-up Commission | Ep 2

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1978229832396722648

1978229832396722648

ĐⱤØ₲Ø🇺🇸
@KAGdrogo
·
14h
Tucker is talking about the Dancing Israelis

Why would Israeli Nationals celebrate 9/11?

[mountain_jim]

(previous parts in posts above)

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1980604987034964148

1980604987034964148

The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

[mountain_jim]

Dave Collum
@DavidBCollum
·
17h
.
@SenRonJohnson and @BretWeinstein take a fairly detailed deep dive into the inconsistencies surrounding 9/11. If you still think the official narrative is legit, don't bother. You are too asleep...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXB_kXWs4jc

mXB_kXWs4jc


Commission Impossible: Senator Ron Johnson on DarkHorse

Bret Weinstein

17,104 views Oct 26, 2025 The Inside Rail
Bret Weinstein speaks with Senator Ron Johnson on the subject of 9/11.

Find Senator Ron Johnson on X: http://x.com/SenRonJohnson

*****

Timestamps:

00:00:00 Welcoming Senator Ron Johnson back to DarkHorse.
00:03:36 The 24th Anniversary of September 11th
00:08:34 How Senator Johnson Began Asking Questions
00:15:51 This Should Be a National Priority
00:21:15 The Twin Towers Structural Engineering
00:24:35 9/11 Commission was Setup to Fail
00:27:13 Questioning Official Narratives
00:31:19 Confusion Over How the 9/11 News Emerged
00:33:45 Who Are “They?”
00:35:41 Senator Johnson Supports Setting up a NEW 9/11 Commission
00:37:29 Aspects of 9/11 That STILL Don’t Add Up
00:41:32 Rumsfeld’s Report on Unaccounted Funds and the Pentagon
00:46:34 How Do We Get to the Truth?
00:50:52 The Tendency for Witnesses to Live Shorter Lives
00:59:11 World Trade Center 7 Interviews
01:02:12 Shanksville
01:06:27 The Ability to Imagine Monstrousness This Powerful
01:10:25 Why Didn’t “They” Do it Better?
01:12:19 Most of Our Government Didn’t Know Anything About It
01:16:39 Senator Johnson’s Dilemma Moving Forward on 9/11 Answers
01:19:49 What Hit the Pentagon? Videos, and the FBI
01:22:35 Who Ordered Immediate Cleanup?
01:25:03 World Trade Center 7, Enron and the Bush Administration
01:27:51 How to Investigate Legitimate Issues
01:29:41 Using the Scientific Toolkit and Getting Hit with Social Penalties

[Vicus]

X Files came true

Fans of the short-lived X-Files spinoff series The Lone Gunmen may recall that the pilot episode ended with an eerie foreshadowing of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on New York's World Trade Center. Though the show aired six months before the attack, its final scene featured a commercial airliner aiming at the [World Trade] center, veering away at the last minute...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmmOVSmmdwk
I woke up on Sept. 11 and saw it on TV, and the first thing I thought of was The Lone Gunmen,But then in the weeks and months that followed, almost no one noticed the connection. What's disturbing about it to me was, if a fiction writer can imagine this scenario, then the people in power in the government who are there to imagine disaster scenarios can imagine it, too. :sherlock:

PS: I recommend all of you to search for the full episode, before they Bord the plane they have a very interesting conversation, something like " the cold war is over and the "government " is in the need for new "enemy's"for the military complex ...

[mountain_jim]

Of interest to me, one of the co-creaters of The Lone Gunman is Vince Gilligan, who has a new Sci-Fi series on Apple coming out next week:


The showrunner for the Apple sci-fi series "Pluribus" is Vince Gilligan. He is known for his work on "Breaking Bad" and "Better Call Saul" and is set to create this new series, which is expected to premiere on November 7, 2025



Pluribus (stylized as PLUR1BUS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluribus_(TV_series))) is an upcoming science fiction drama television series created by Vince Gilligan for Apple TV. The series stars Rhea Seehorn in the lead role. She previously worked with Gilligan on the AMC series Better Call Saul.[2]

Set in Albuquerque, New Mexico,[4][5][6] the series follows author Carol Sturka, who seems to be the only person immune to an unexplained virus that transforms the world's population into content and optimistic citizens.[7]




later: could this be predicting some sort of coming viral mind-control, or the activation of the nanobots from the MRNA jabs to result in a specific, pliable, mental state?

[Vicus]

The lone gunman episode text between father and son before board the plane

Bertram Byers: "What the hell are you doing? Why can't you stay out of this? Leave me buried?"

Byers: "What is Scenario 12D? We know, it's a war game scenario, that it has to do with airline counter-terrorism. Why is it important enough to kill for?"

Bertram Byers: "Because it's no longer a game."

Byers: "But if, some terrorist group wants to, act out this scenario, why target you for assassination?"

Bertram Byers: "Depends on who your terrorists are."

Byers: "The men who conceived of it in the first place. You're saying our government plans to commit a terrorist act against a domestic air..."

Bertram Byers: "There you go, indicting the entire government as usual. It's a faction, a small faction..."

Byers: "For what possible gain?"

Bertram Byers: "The Cold War's over, John. But with no clear enemy to stockpile against, the arms market's flat. But bring down a fully-loaded 727 into the middle of New York City; you'll find a dozen tin-pot dictators all over the world, just clamouring to take responsibility. And begging to be smart bombed."

Byers: "I can't believe it; this is about increasing arms sales?"

Bertram Byers: "Mm-hmm."
Byers: "When?"
Bertram Byers: "Tonight."

Byers: "How are you going to stop them? Why didn't you tell the world this? Go to the press?"

Bertram Byers: "You think I'd still be drawing breath 30 minutes after I made that call? The press? Who's going to run this story?"

Byers: "We would."

Bertram Byers: "This?" [He picks up one of the newspapers] "This is birdcage liner. Wild-eyed crap right up there with, Elvis is an alien and two-headed babies."

Byers: "You obviously read it."

Bertram Byers: "Don't be so damn naive. You think this is going to save the world?

Wow, "increasing arms sales." Why does that sound so familiar? Why does that sound so god-damned familiar...

[mountain_jim]

copying here


https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1991929728954204440?s=20

1991929728954204440
Tucker Carlson

@TuckerCarlson

Kristen Breitweiser’s husband was killed in the South Tower on 9-11. Over the decades since, she’s watched the cover-up in real time.

(0:00) The Families of 9-11 Victims Are Demanding the Truth
(5:35) Were the 9-11 Attacks Planned?
(14:16) Who Benefited From the 9-11 Attacks?
(18:04) Why Didn't the Government Stop the 9-11 Attacks?
(21:05) Why Are These Reports Still Classified?
(27:47) Which Foreign Governments Were Involved?
(35:40) Foreknowledge of 9-11
(47:52) What Happened to Flight 93?
(57:11) The Suspicious Hijacking Story
(1:05:14) What Happened to Building 7?
(1:12:07) Breitweiser Calls on Donald Trump to Create a New 9-11 Task Force
(1:15:45) The DOJ's Hedge Fund Scam to Rob the Victims’ Families
(1:31:24) Do We Know the Names of the Hedge Fund Managers?
(1:36:19) The ADL’s Involvement in Anti-Terrorism Laws
(1:40:35) How Have America's Anti-Terrorism Laws Changed?

Includes paid partnerships.


later

https://x.com/RichardGage_911/status/1991936653997621268?s=20

1991936653997621268


Richard Gage, AIA, Architect
@RichardGage_911
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19h
[RG911Team] Someone is hiding a big secret about special ops involvement in 9/11.

And 9/11 widow @kdbreitweiser just dropped a bombshell about WTC building 7 with
@TuckerCarlson that put them on notice.

What do you think is the rest of the story?

[Rizotto]

Anybody here that has seen the "Operation Terror" movie? It's a fictional account of what many believe really happened on 9/11.
Here's the website: https://operationterror.com/

Any chance this movie is in the Project Avalon library?

[Tintin]

Anybody here that has seen the "Operation Terror" movie? It's a fictional account of what many believe really happened on 9/11.
Here's the website: https://operationterror.com/

Any chance this movie is in the Project Avalon library?

Ah, great question, and alas not. I'm just having a dig around to see if I can get a copy. By the way, that website link throws up a message that states the video "does not exist" there anymore. Apparently it was made in 2012 and is the first time I've heard of it!

[Rizotto]

"The Supreme Court in the United Kingdom has finally agreed to hear one of the most important cases of our lifetime, and it directly addresses the question about what actually happened on 9/11. What brought down the Twin Towers. One of Britain's own sons was killed that day. And the British family has been demanding answers, which they are rightfully allowed to do under the law."
The Twin Towers were destroyed by a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION & UK Supreme Court is taking the case

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzNTPN8X-sI

[Rizotto]

Anybody here that has seen the "Operation Terror" movie? It's a fictional account of what many believe really happened on 9/11.
Here's the website: https://operationterror.com/

Any chance this movie is in the Project Avalon library?

Ah, great question, and alas not. I'm just having a dig around to see if I can get a copy. By the way, that website link throws up a message that states the video "does not exist" there anymore. Apparently it was made in 2012 and is the first time I've heard of it!

I searched just now, and found this link to the movie "Operation Terror". Will it work on here? We'll see.
https://watch.plex.tv/watch/movie/operation-terror?uri=provider%3A%2F%2Ftv.plex.provider.vod%2Flibrary%2Fmetadata%2F5d776bdbfb0d55001f5751e2&autoplay=1

[Tintin]

Anybody here that has seen the "Operation Terror" movie? It's a fictional account of what many believe really happened on 9/11.
Here's the website: https://operationterror.com/

Any chance this movie is in the Project Avalon library?

Ah, great question, and alas not. I'm just having a dig around to see if I can get a copy. By the way, that website link throws up a message that states the video "does not exist" there anymore. Apparently it was made in 2012 and is the first time I've heard of it!

I searched just now, and found this link to the movie "Operation Terror". Will it work on here? We'll see.
https://watch.plex.tv/watch/movie/operation-terror?uri=provider%3A%2F%2Ftv.plex.provider.vod%2Flibrary%2Fmetadata%2F5d776bdbfb0d55001f5751e2&autoplay=1

Well done - great catch! I can't download this but it does appear to be streaming quite smoothly :highfive: