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thepainterdoug
10th September 2022, 15:35
I am doing my best everyday, but I just don't feel right.

After 2-3 years of trying to absorb such radical changes in logic, common sense, rule of law, social awareness and cooperation among friends and strangers alike, I along with others I speak to are starting to lose it to varying degrees.

I woudn't know where to begin in an effort to be specific for you all. Throw a dart at a board full of topics and anyone you hit will be of huge significance requiring a good deal of study and insight.

OK, just one I just read , DOJ raids 35-50 Trump supporters homes. IS THIS TRUE ?

If so, when did it become illegal to choose and support a legitimate presidential candidate?
How can this be happening? Do we not have a constitution and bill of rights? Is there no recourse?
Even the Nazi party has been free to assemble and exist in America for years.

The truth is, things are coming so fast, norms are being shattered constantly that the effect is mind numbing. Puberty blockers? Kids being destroyed? Military being disseminated , And it's all ok?

On request from a friend, I recently tried to aid a stranger suffering from depression.

I called her and asked her what is going on for her ? , she replied that she was ok and then all of a sudden while on the phone with a friend, she changed in an instant.
She said she is not the same person. She is somewhat vacant. As if bit by a vampire.

Her creativity, her buoyancy and her feeling for life was altered at that moment. She no longer cares to make art or participate in things. Like invasion of the body snatchers, she is the same, but very different .

I too am struggling with purpose in all my creative offerings.

Anyone else know of or hearing this?

Kryztian
10th September 2022, 16:28
We are all under attack in so many ways and at so many different levels. This is a coordinated attack and who knows where it is coming from. All the people you see on the stage of world power are highly manipulated, and it isn't easy to get to the bottom of whom they are through the media. I try not to attach too much energy into loving or hating politicians and thinking they are going to seal my fate.


OK, just one I just read , DOJ raids 35-50 Trump supporters homes. IS THIS TRUE ?

I haven't heard this but if you have more info, many of us would like to look into this story. Just know that one way these attacks comes to us is through fake news. I might be something that really happened, or didn't happened, and this news is made up just to pollute our search for truth and to divide us. All these stories are there to prey on your hopes and fears.

From my circle of acquaintances, some of the people I know who are usually pillars of stability are sometimes fragile and depressed, but at the same time, some of those I know who are frequently anxious, depressed, disorganized, delusional, mildly schizophrenic, are at their best right now. Somethings strange is going on, but I think there is a silver lining in that dark cloud.

Sunny-side-up
10th September 2022, 16:41
Hello Dough and all.

:( I've given up on idealism and dreams of a better world :(
We are at the mercy of higher, darker hidden hands, the only light in my hope is from higher realms.

We are in a reset and when all cash is no more, and we are totally digital we will see a switch off.
The world is full of sheep, and no one can oppose it.
Live off grid and they will come for you one way or the other :(
What a downer.

Sorry, all no uplifting from me today :(

Sadieblue
10th September 2022, 17:13
The only advice I can offer is to just live your life for the moment, enjoying nature and family. Keep your inner circle close and find peace within. I keep up with what is going on in the outside world, but try not to dwell on it, as there is nothing I can do to alter it. I stay in my space and send up prayers for our country as well as to others.

DeDukshyn
10th September 2022, 17:23
...

Her creativity, her buoyancy and her feeling for life was altered at that moment. She no longer cares to make art or participate in things. ...

I too am struggling with purpose in all my creative offerings.

Anyone else know of or hearing this?


I've been struggling with this for quite some time. My drive and creativity seem to have just been sapped out of me. I attribute some of to some sort of PTSD from enduring an abusive relationship for many, many years ... maybe the current trauma of current events is having a similar effect.

I am now trying my best to regain some of my creative drive back, bby not taking life too seriously, keeping my mind and thoughts on my immediately local surroundings, and trying my best to stay grounded in the present moment.

Walking around outside in my barefeet, going through walks in the forest, and gardening all help.

East Sun
10th September 2022, 17:34
It is perfectly understandable that Americans would be downhearted
because of the way things are in the USA and around the world.
We are all aware of the globalists, the genocide agenda and outright evil
seemingly everywhere.

From what I hear, see or can determine in my own limited knowledge
this drastic change is necessary to get away from the evil that is surely
evident for a long time. We will get through this time and embrace a
newer better time.

Doug, I hope you feel better soon. There is still some rough times ahead
and I hope that I and you and all good well--meaning people will prevail.

:Music:

Satori
10th September 2022, 17:55
Invasion of the Body Snatchers is an apt metaphor. I recently watched the 1970s version with Donald Sutherland. I could not help get the feeling that we are living an eerily similar experience. “The same, but different.” To quote the Three Stooges.

According to Steve Bannon and as reported on Tucker Carlson’s show recently, the DOJ/FBI have served subpoenas and/or summonses on 35, or so, Republican “influencers or officials. This has occurred recently. They seek information concerning the 2020 election steal and who knows what else.

It would not be accurate to call these intimidation tactics a “raid.” I say that as I have not heard that any search or arrests warrants were issued. That would be a raid and a search and seizure of property and/ or person.

But to have FBI or other LEO come to your home or elsewhere to serve documents on you for merely exercising your Constitutionally protected rights is indeed intimidating. It could prove costly too for legal expenses and perhaps loss of employment.

To be sure, these people are being targeted to send the message to all “deplorables” that you better toe the line or you will be next.

Satori
10th September 2022, 18:40
I’m moved by thepainterdoug’s thread and post to quote from something I came across just last night.

The following is extracted from a speech by George William Curtis delivered on April 19, 1875, at Concord, Mass., on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of the Concord Fight:

“The Minuteman of the Revolution! And who was he? He was the old, the middle-aged and the young. He was the husband and father, who left his plow in the furrow and his hammer on the bench, and marched to die or be free. He was the son and lover, the plain, shy youth of the singing school and the village choir, whose heart beat to arms for his country [.]

“He was the man who was willing to pour out his life’s blood for a principle. Intrenched in his own honesty, the king’s gold could not buy him; enthroned in the love of his fellow citizens, the king’s writ could not take him; and when, on the morning of Lexington, the king’s troops marched to seize him, his sublime faith saw, beyond the clouds of the moment, the rising sun of the America we behold, and, careless of himself, mindful only of his country, he exultingly exclaimed, ‘Oh, what a glorious morning.’

“.... And here amid these peaceful fields... stand fast Son of Liberty, as the Minuteman stood at the old North Bridge. But should we or our descendants, false to justice or humanity, betray in any way their cause, spring into life as a hundred years ago, take one more step, descend, and lead us, as God led you in saving America, to save the hopes of man.

“[W]herever party spirit shall strain the ancient guarantees of freedom; or bigotry and ignorance shall lay their fatal hands on education; or the arrogance of caste shall strike at equal rights; or corruption shall poison the very springs of national life, —there, Minuteman of Liberty, are your Lexington Green and Concord Bridge.

“..., and so, through a land blazing with indignation, hurl the hordes of ignorance and corruption and injustice back—back in utter defeat and ruin.”

Isserley
10th September 2022, 18:57
Yep fear and anxiety can do this to a person and not only affect creativity but also overall health and cognition. It is necessary to dose the negative - which today requires a lot of effort and is almost impossible in the world we live in. Ibn Sina's experiment talks about this:


The famous scholar of the Islamic Golden Age, Ibn Sina once conducted a medical experiment. He put two identical lambs in two separate cages, and he placed a wolf in one of the side cages. The wolf could only be seen by ONE of the lambs and the other was placed out of sight.

Months after, the lamb who could see the wolf died out of sheer stress and fear, even though the wolf did not physically go near or even threaten the lamb. The other lamb that had not seen the wolf lived on healthily and in good spirits.

This experiment showed the power and effects of mental influence on our health and body. Fear, anxiety, stress and negativity does nothing but harm — even if we don’t realise the damage it is doing to us internally.

Filter out negativity in the media. It's killing you from within.

http://kn-ow.com/article/ibn-sinas-fear-experiment-211/

Bill Ryan
10th September 2022, 19:01
Dear Friends, we have a sister thread to this one, also posted by Doug (thepainterdoug (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?21016-thepainterdoug)) at the end of March. There were many posts, many helpful suggestions, and much mutual support, on that thread as well.


An Exhaustion setting in (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118241-An-Exhaustion-setting-in)

Vicus
10th September 2022, 19:43
I'm not loosing anything

Sorry, but there will be not return to "normal" life pre "plandemia",there wasn't any "normal" time after 9/11 anyway...just
escalation, one sh1t after another...9/11 was just the start to endgame...

Putsch in Ukraine 2014 another step, Stolen elections in USA just another step, crazy "wokness", another step , gender
confusion, absolute media control Nazi tactics, war and rumors of war, , economic collapse, famine, ring a bell?...

We are the "revelations" generation.

Now every abomination is in plain sight, reveal to us.

NOW are we really tested: do you got a spine ?

Which "power" gilt your complacence: light warrior or darkness servant ?

I'm in this forum because I "know" the answer... :Avalon:

PS: I'm not a religious man, just facts...

TomKat
10th September 2022, 20:12
I am doing my best everyday, but I just don't feel right.

After 2-3 years of trying to absorb such radical changes in logic, common sense, rule of law, social awareness and cooperation among friends and strangers alike, I along with others I speak to are starting to lose it to varying degrees.

I woudn't know where to begin in an effort to be specific for you all. Throw a dart at a board full of topics and anyone you hit will be of huge significance requiring a good deal of study and insight.

OK, just one I just read , DOJ raids 35-50 Trump supporters homes. IS THIS TRUE ?

If so, when did it become illegal to choose and support a legitimate presidential candidate?
How can this be happening? Do we not have a constitution and bill of rights? Is there no recourse?
Even the Nazi party has been free to assemble and exist in America for years.

The truth is, things are coming so fast, norms are being shattered constantly that the effect is mind numbing. Puberty blockers? Kids being destroyed? Military being disseminated , And it's all ok?

On request from a friend, I recently tried to aid a stranger suffering from depression.

I called her and asked her what is going on for her ? , she replied that she was ok and then all of a sudden while on the phone with a friend, she changed in an instant.
She said she is not the same person. She is somewhat vacant. As if bit by a vampire.

Her creativity, her buoyancy and her feeling for life was altered at that moment. She no longer cares to make art or participate in things. Like invasion of the body snatchers, she is the same, but very different .

I too am struggling with purpose in all my creative offerings.

Anyone else know of or hearing this?

There's so much BS going around, perhaps we should abide by the old saw "don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see."

T Smith
10th September 2022, 21:41
I called her and asked her what is going on for her ? , she replied that she was ok and then all of a sudden while on the phone with a friend, she changed in an instant.
She said she is not the same person. She is somewhat vacant. As if bit by a vampire.

Her creativity, her buoyancy and her feeling for life was altered at that moment. She no longer cares to make art or participate in things. Like invasion of the body snatchers, she is the same, but very different .

Anyone else know of or hearing this?

Has she been vaccinated? I've noticed many, many people who got the jab who all have the same symptoms and are totally different people... just throwing it out there.

Waldo
10th September 2022, 21:44
I am doing my best everyday, but I just don't feel right.

After 2-3 years of trying to absorb such radical changes in logic, common sense, rule of law, social awareness and cooperation among friends and strangers alike, I along with others I speak to are starting to lose it to varying degrees.

I woudn't know where to begin in an effort to be specific for you all. Throw a dart at a board full of topics and anyone you hit will be of huge significance requiring a good deal of study and insight.

OK, just one I just read , DOJ raids 35-50 Trump supporters homes. IS THIS TRUE ?

If so, when did it become illegal to choose and support a legitimate presidential candidate?
How can this be happening? Do we not have a constitution and bill of rights? Is there no recourse?
Even the Nazi party has been free to assemble and exist in America for years.

The truth is, things are coming so fast, norms are being shattered constantly that the effect is mind numbing. Puberty blockers? Kids being destroyed? Military being disseminated , And it's all ok?

On request from a friend, I recently tried to aid a stranger suffering from depression.

I called her and asked her what is going on for her ? , she replied that she was ok and then all of a sudden while on the phone with a friend, she changed in an instant.
She said she is not the same person. She is somewhat vacant. As if bit by a vampire.

Her creativity, her buoyancy and her feeling for life was altered at that moment. She no longer cares to make art or participate in things. Like invasion of the body snatchers, she is the same, but very different .

I too am struggling with purpose in all my creative offerings.

Anyone else know of or hearing this?

As a 30+ student on the all time best seller I feel the same way but we are to expect this just prior to the return of messiah. I'm not going to dig up the chapter and verse but we are told that men's hearts will fail them in the latter days for what is transpiring on earth. Which tells me we aint seen nuthin yet. Hang in there we know who wins in the end.

I am B
10th September 2022, 22:39
Blue bird app is not real life.

Count the cool things that happened to you today, I'm sure there are a bunch.

thepainterdoug
10th September 2022, 22:41
THANK YOU EVERYONE!!

T SMITH. No she was not jabbed

East Sun
10th September 2022, 23:01
Hi Doug,
Of all the people on Avalon I seem to relate to you more than anyone.
That may be because I am not in the same mode of thinking as most
people. Not my fault. It's just how it is. It does not mean anything, really.

People I worked with have said that I was "different", that could mean anything.
I'm glad I could think "outside the obscure invisible box without even knowing it."
You are a thinker, as am I.

I am not well educated except in the real world where reality prevails.
The world as we see it now is seen by us in terms of humanity's
view of our reality. It can change and will change inevitably, as it always
has.

Michel Leclerc
10th September 2022, 23:05
Doug, we can PM.
What I can share with everybody on the Forum without breaking intimacy and confidence with the people who matter to that extent in my life, is this:
• all topics of debate that matter in a mature, intelligent and empathic society have also for me changed into war zones with razor-sharp fracture lines; I name, not exhaustively: the essence and structure of sexuality; the human psychological framework (unconscious, subconscious, conscious, superconscious); good vs bad; beautiful vs ugly; true vs false; the nature of boundaries (if any) between plants/animals/humans; prelife/life/afterlife; language vs non-language; communication vs non-communication; animal/human/angel; demoniac/divine; void/abundance; oneness/duality; becoming/being; childhood/adolescence/adulthood; private/public; person/state; individual/nation/people/race; justice/law; property/sharing; money/value; family/"family"; the nature of love...
these razor-sharp divisions divide anybody now to such an extent that a person who shares with me all stands that I take on them is non-existent: we all belong in a unique way to all such sets (as in set theory) that matter to us, and that singularity (in Giorgio Agamben’s sense) is no more a reason for joy but rather for despair;
• creativity: in the artistic sense (literature-related), almost coextensive with my life: the people who I used to call my friends in literature are all located on the other side of quite a number of “divided topic fences” to the point that open discussion is no longer possible and that I have practically lost them as friends (and they me): as a result my surviving artistic friendships are with an abstract painter and a piano virtuoso (however, I notice that the horrors we are moving into do not stop me from writing – because it is essential to my survival);
• yet – new friendships have arisen: with people in my new neighbourhood far from the crowded Low Lands by the Sea, who are not artistically but socially creative, preparing (for) new forms of community and society, which gives me hope and makes me join some of their initiatives and take a few myself;
• as I am (slowly, I hope) approaching the moment of my last voyage, the fact that on the other side of the dying/birthing tunnel lives a family member who died a hero in the Resistance during WWII whom I revere, make me look forward intensely to the moment we will meet;
• completely unexpected there has come a new love in my life, and since two years I have (also, side by side with the above-mentioned other "motivators") lived for him and because of him.

What is happening is dreadful in one thousand dimensions at the same time, yet life can break us open at any moment for creation, friendship and love.

raregem
11th September 2022, 00:55
I don't know what to say...to be coherent in my thinking...
I feel tears welling up at the heaviness in this thread. It is truth for each of us though. So many deceptions, confusions and mostly a disconnect from the beauty that is our Soul pushed on our psyches. I trust we shall heal and create again on a level that is beyond our dreams. That spark never seems to disappear. It may be an ember but still there waiting. In wonderment. For now- seems best to reside in the "eye of the storm". We've done our best to help others understand this energy and not be devoured in the process. The awesomeness is knowing this is temporary albeit difficult for sensitive beings who care greatly. Much, much love all.

Delight
11th September 2022, 00:58
Thanks for your good questions offered.

Am I losing my grip?

YES. As I interpret the "losing my grip", I take it to mean my hold on "reality out there" that would have made sense.

I am losing it but then I have been losing it for a long time. What I am losing now seems to be the last percentages. All my interpretations are falling apart. I see the collective landscape MORE AND MORE (because it started for me a long time ago) turned upside down and inside out and backwards from everything I learned to value. BUT apparently someone somewhere is believing THEY value what I see as INVERSION of value.

I COULD be really upset (and have been along the way). What do I have aside form these last shreds of "the world as it SHOULD BE" according to my interpretation?

I have stopped thinking I will find any answers from anyone else in this shattered landscape. IMO what anyone believes becomes personally real enough to see it all around for that person. THAT seems the TRUTH....we are all artists creating the whole shebang and witnessing something at the same time that "we" would OR would not have chosen.

What I experience beyond all the stories is numinous, UNKNOWN and "FROM SOME aspect BIGGER than me". I feel connected to what I call "qualities" which then translate to beliefs and "things". I am bored by all things personal like drama. AND I DON"T have drama in my daily life. I think of strange and mysterious possibilities. I release needing to argue my POV.

Stanislav Grof, has defined transpersonal states of awareness as such: "The common denominator of this otherwise rich and ramified group of phenomena is the feeling of the individual that his consciousness expanded beyond the usual ego boundaries and the limitations of time and space."

I want to be beyond believing any stories, narratives, theories and beliefs. It is pleasing when I hear stories that "jive" with what I am thinking. However, it is all "made up" and that is IMPORTANT. It is a waking lucid amazing dream now where things are NOT anymore what they seemed. They are crazy, clownish, absurd and dramatic. But I am able to see it is a dream.....AND I am safe and secure.

I have a skill that I use as a massage therapist which is REAL and true and has no downsides. It looks mundane enough but it is PROOF to me that I can experience offering something impersonal which invites the TRANSPERSONAL. The touch is my hand but IMO the FORCE there and purpose is beyond personal.

My LIFE which is actually FULL of the transpersonal is all I have. It is a great gift.

I could go into so many details... like a memoir... of how this lined up. BUT I don't want to rehash. Here I am, however I arrived here. I have been losing my grip, sure enough and I am swimming in the deep waters.

Innocent Warrior
11th September 2022, 01:10
Doug, you’re an exemplary example of a healthy person with a firm grip on sanity in a most extraordinarily insane world and now I’m going to say something very strange, but true.

We all lost grip of the world in early 2019, it was taken from us, I felt it as it happened. The world is no longer our creation but that of a foreign dreamer, so to speak. Now I’m gong to come off as bossy but hand on heart I know this is what we must do - let it go.

Continue to be authentic. Stay human. Stay here on Earth. Live your life to the fullest you can muster despite the dying world and in so doing you are birthing a world that is better than anything any one of us could imagine.

Godspeed all.

iota
11th September 2022, 01:12
We are all under attack in so many ways and at so many different levels. This is a coordinated attack and who knows where it is coming from. All the people you see on the stage of world power are highly manipulated, and it isn't easy to get to the bottom of whom they are through the media. I try not to attach too much energy into loving or hating politicians and thinking they are going to seal my fate.


OK, just one I just read , DOJ raids 35-50 Trump supporters homes. IS THIS TRUE ?

I haven't heard this but if you have more info, many of us would like to look into this story. Just know that one way these attacks comes to us is through fake news. I might be something that really happened, or didn't happened, and this news is made up just to pollute our search for truth and to divide us. All these stories are there to prey on your hopes and fears.

From my circle of acquaintances, some of the people I know who are usually pillars of stability are sometimes fragile and depressed, but at the same time, some of those I know who are frequently anxious, depressed, disorganized, delusional, mildly schizophrenic, are at their best right now. Somethings strange is going on, but I think there is a silver lining in that dark cloud.


true enough

luckily, people of like mind as ourselves?

are saying ENOUGH

we are free to make choices

that includes FBI

we are NOT, however, FREE of the consequences of the choices we make

see last tweet on post here
(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112845-2020-Presidential-Election--and-its-Aftermath&p=1517336&viewfull=1#post1517336)


post has video to answer question also

thepainterdoug
11th September 2022, 02:09
Thank you all! All with your words of friendship and support. each one of you contribute a unique richness.I cannot name you all, but you have all contributed to carrying myself and all along

and East Sun/ for you.

Bluegreen
11th September 2022, 02:38
Hang in there, Doug, and keep your lamp trimmed and burning.

Harmony
11th September 2022, 03:23
Thank you for voicing your feelings Doug and all who have shared. It’s nice to feel you aren’t alone.


It’s a strange feeling, trying to stay centered and go about your normal life in a world that feels far from normal. The future that we may have worked towards seems to be pulled out from under us and makes everything we do seem pointless sometimes. There is that question, why am I doing this or that and what does it mean, will it have a place in the future?


We may worry about our loved ones and innocent ones we hold dear and require our support. How do we decide what actions to take that affect others too?


The only place to look for stability is within, what do you stand for, what is important to you above all else? How do you “be” that, no matter what form the world seems to take? To me it is important to envisage the world we want, and feel it. Everyone will have their own personal journey. Maybe this is a point in time where we are meant to really feel that.


It can be discouraging looking out onto the world that seems unfixable, complex, and insane sometimes. Decisions being made, on our so called behalf, are nothing we would ever agree with or even imagine being put forward as options. I am trusting my intuition and trying not to look too far into the future and praying that in each moment I will know what to do. :heart:

Mike Gorman
11th September 2022, 03:45
I hear you Doug, I know that sounds superficial and so forth, but I hear you! The collective population of this forum represents a tangent to the NORM, we are among the more curious, insightful and sensitive of human souls - sorry if this comes off as being self congratulatory, but I feel this is accurate. Everyone across this planet is feeling the shift, everyone has experienced an explosion of all previous standards of decency and conduct; our 'authorities' have turned hostile on us, we are being assaulted by a pernicious intent, this much is very clear.
The advice from the wisest amongst us ask us to focus on our families and immediate people, nurture good relations and good will, avoid hostile arguments and grand gestures of defiance - we win our point through kindness and example, this being said: We must resist this evil ideology which has flourished recently, WEF and their great reset nonsense, the climate alarmists and their anti-scientific propaganda, bureaucratic overreach of every kind.
I sense we are all in for a VERY large surprise in the coming decade, perhaps a GRAND RESET of titanic proportions if the genuine science is correct, the Earth shall wind up tilting 90 degrees, Greenland will be at the equator, enormous tsunamis and geological upheavals of all kinds: 2030-50.
I do not know if this is correct, but very smart people tell me it is likely, probable - so don't get too invested in the politics and social conflicts, it might all be washed away soon, and the new era of humanity commences.
I like to keep things simple, so I suggest we try and calm ourselves down, and appreciate what we have already, try and love one another and comfort each other - enjoy dinner, glasses of wine and cups of coffee, watching babies grow and holding BBQ's, enjoy the small things while they are still here.

jaybee
11th September 2022, 03:49
I am doing my best everyday, but I just don't feel right.

After 2-3 years of trying to absorb such radical changes in logic, common sense, rule of law, social awareness and cooperation among friends and strangers alike, I along with others I speak to are starting to lose it to varying degrees.




It's not easy living a double life... connecting the dots, seeing what's happening and being aware of the deliberate controlled collapse of civilization as we know it... BUT... also living a regular day to day life surrounded by family, neighbours, friends etc who more or less appear to have no idea what's going on...

Doing our best every day is the best we can do but it's no wonder you/we/many people don't feel right -

thepainterdoug
11th September 2022, 12:58
Again I thank you all. I can certainly say, I am not alone in this.
Take a look at this article i just read this morning. This explains alot , especially in regard to our current president, and who he answers to.
BLACKROCK runs the world. And they are tied into Klaus Schwab and the W E F
https://hannenabintuherland.com/news/blackrock-unregulated-investment-firm-now-rules-the-world/

TomKat
11th September 2022, 13:39
It's called gaslighting, which the media has been doingto everyone since Brexit and Trump.

AriG
11th September 2022, 14:22
Doug,

It does feel as though everything is being simultaneously imploded. One would be considered crazy to not have the reaction that you have.

One coping mechanism that I have used is to think back to times in my life when I was under great stress or trauma and then to recall the days, weeks, months that followed and how ultimately that event became a memory rather than a ruler of my reality. I’m not suggesting that the horrific events of present are going to cease to exist (although I would argue that if the collective (mankind) wanted them to, they would), remembering that “this too shall pass” might help with daily life.

And remember that you chose to be here at this time. You are here for a reason. And we’re all very lucky that you are here!

Michel Leclerc
11th September 2022, 14:32
(...) Ibn Sina's experiment talks about this:


The famous scholar of the Islamic Golden Age, Ibn Sina once conducted a medical experiment. (...)

This experiment showed the power and effects of mental influence on our health and body. (...)No, Isserley. This experiment only shows the stupidity of even Ibn Sina. It is the other way around. It is because we know that if we were caged in the presence of our executioner we would be more anxious than if we weren’t, that we can safely assume that something similar will happen to a sheep in the presence of a wolf. This is the eternal pretentiousness of so-called "Science” (the real name of which is ”Fauci”) that duplicates human intuition and good old common sense in the animal world and then adduces the results as proof for intuition and common sense. The latter does not need to be verified by an animal experiment, and the animal experiment does not need to be carried out in order to know that sheep are like humans. All that was already clear to Adam, when God gave to him the power and the talent to name the animals.

These so-called “scientific” parallels are part of the problem. The end of such reasoning is reviving an extinct virus, enhancing it “with the aim of” brewing an antidote against it and without having found the antidote release the enhanced version. "Playing Nature’s (or God’s) game” it is called.

rgray222
11th September 2022, 15:04
I am doing my best everyday, but I just don't feel right.

The truth is, things are coming so fast, norms are being shattered constantly that the effect is mind numbing. Puberty blockers? Kids being destroyed? Military being disseminated , And it's all ok?



We have been taught to think in the moment which is fine but occasionally we must let go of the immediate and think in 100-year and 1000-year increments. This is the great levelling, it allows us to understand the bizarre, tragic and incomprehensible events that happen over time. it can immediately restore sanity, common sense and a soothing understanding of what seems abnormal behavior of man.

Of course, there are always those fatalists that believe mankind is doomed by their fate and the end is nigh, this simply is not so.

Spiral
11th September 2022, 15:34
Maybe part of it is that we (northern hemisphere anyway) are seeing the end of summer, the nights are drawing in & it just adds to the sense of foreboding.

The nagging worry that we are going to see another virus, more lockdowns, more emergency powers, more jabs & more people having "sudden death" and everything else....

None of us have ever seen such idiots & traitors in power, even the new King is not right, not that he'll last long anyway.

Things seem to be falling apart or wilting.

But then most of us know that's why we are here.

For one reason or another.

Someone has got to stand as witness to all this before God.

Faith is going to be tested like never before, don't lose hope now.

palehorse
11th September 2022, 16:02
Hi Doug, you are not alone, just know that.

Weeks ago I had another deep talk with relatives and as usual they did their best to mock me up!! I see them today as a mere reflex of the MSM, completely brainwashed folks and above it all very proud of that. I was hoping some of them changed their minds after all the fraud exposed, but nope, I was dead wrong.

Should I feel bad or lose my grip because of that? The answer is absolutely NO. I am living as simple as possible day by day and that is it!

Physical life is short my friend, we all soon will leave the carcass behind and ascend.

In an holistic level we may find our peace in the infinity wilderness of this cosmos.

Have a great week.

Bubu
11th September 2022, 16:03
I was a while back so I let go and now Im floating in midair. awesomee.

Satori
11th September 2022, 17:27
It is those who do not have any sense of losing their grip, who have already lost it. They are out of touch with reality. Contrariwise, it is those who sense their grip is slipping, who still have a grasp of reality. It is they who will, on average, fare well over time on Earth and in the Hereafter.

Open Minded Dude
11th September 2022, 18:18
I too am struggling with purpose in all my creative offerings.

Anyone else know of or hearing this?

Being an artist and book writer myself I can attest to that. I've lost the (creative / productive) impetus for it right now. Just stopped.
Still concentrating on some other 'projects' (job related) but that is lacking in the same motivation I had for the arts and therefore only progresses in small steps. Sometimes 1 ahead and 2 steps back though, lol. Also a private matter (my 2 elderly parents in home health care) drains my enery a lot right now. Still trying to pull through, stay positive and manifest good things again. But it is not easy.

onawah
11th September 2022, 18:21
I try to keep a sense of proportion.
We are infestimal specks on a tiny planet circling a Sun of very modest size in a galaxy which is merely one in an immeasurable number of galaxies within the Multiverse.
It may not be a reassuring thought, and we don't have to beat ourselves over the head with it, but we are wise not to forget it.
But if I do, I have only to tune into the following source:
(Note: I recommend watching the whole video, but especially starting at 4 minutes, 25 seconds.)
The point being that we are not disconnected from all that surrounds us, though our fragile egos would have us believe we are.
So it's only natural that we should be affected (and more than we realize) by the enormous changes which are happening all around us, not only in the human sphere, but in the physical world.

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I hear you Doug, I know that sounds superficial and so forth, but I hear you! The collective population of this forum represents a tangent to the NORM, we are among the more curious, insightful and sensitive of human souls - sorry if this comes off as being self congratulatory, but I feel this is accurate. Everyone across this planet is feeling the shift, everyone has experienced an explosion of all previous standards of decency and conduct; our 'authorities' have turned hostile on us, we are being assaulted by a pernicious intent, this much is very clear.
The advice from the wisest amongst us ask us to focus on our families and immediate people, nurture good relations and good will, avoid hostile arguments and grand gestures of defiance - we win our point through kindness and example, this being said: We must resist this evil ideology which has flourished recently, WEF and their great reset nonsense, the climate alarmists and their anti-scientific propaganda, bureaucratic overreach of every kind.
I sense we are all in for a VERY large surprise in the coming decade, perhaps a GRAND RESET of titanic proportions if the genuine science is correct, the Earth shall wind up tilting 90 degrees, Greenland will be at the equator, enormous tsunamis and geological upheavals of all kinds: 2030-50.
I do not know if this is correct, but very smart people tell me it is likely, probable - so don't get too invested in the politics and social conflicts, it might all be washed away soon, and the new era of humanity commences.
I like to keep things simple, so I suggest we try and calm ourselves down, and appreciate what we have already, try and love one another and comfort each other - enjoy dinner, glasses of wine and cups of coffee, watching babies grow and holding BBQ's, enjoy the small things while they are still here.

Losus4
11th September 2022, 20:12
Sounds like information overload. It's not so much the subjects themselves as it is the internet in and of itself as a constant in your life. Solution: unplug, begin to limit your net use, spend more time outdoors. Spend too much time on the net and you become a product of the things you consume rather than things you create yourself. How many times do you click on a thread and all you get is dozens of posted videos with no context or explanation. How many years has that been going on and what are the consequences on a persons attention span and their ability to differentiate the useful from the junk?

thepainterdoug
11th September 2022, 21:17
losus4

its not overload. its the kind of info im seeing. to me it feels like two choices/ . see it, or put my head in the sand

Satori
11th September 2022, 21:28
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losus4

its not overload. its the kind of info im seeing. to me it feels like two choices/ . see it, or put my head in the sand

Jeffrey Tucker of Brownstone Institute sees your point:

https://brownstone.org/articles/a-world-on-fire/

“The world is on fire. Most people are not willing to think about it or talk about it. Yet.”

Delight
11th September 2022, 22:33
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losus4

its not overload. its the kind of info im seeing. to me it feels like two choices/ . see it, or put my head in the sand

Jeffrey Tucker of Brownstone Institute sees your point:

https://brownstone.org/articles/a-world-on-fire/

“The world is on fire. Most people are not willing to think about it or talk about it. Yet.”

OK, IMO the repeat of all the demolitions throughout "history" is obvious. We have noted just here on PA the patterns. Today is 9/11 again and it is Preposterous that people DENY the towers were dustified EVEN though it WAS RIGHT THERE on video. People whom I once respected through the years pull out the platitudes of the MSM (and DO THEY really believe it????) and lose me.

I have been sorely distressed for many years by people denying what I could SEE was obvious.

Then I saw the EXIT door. IT's ALL THEATER "Back there" and what matters is the EXIT.

There is a metaphor I have mentioned before from a piece "Butterflies are Free To Fly".

We are in a movie theater. First a few people wake up from the mesmerizing display on screen. They get up and walk into the lobby. Then groups form and reform all about "where are we?" ETC>ETC>ETC> on and on and on groups form and reform. There is seeming no end to the cliques and the fighting and the resets and reforming. One or two notice a sign EXIT. One or two open the door and walk out. They leave the theater.

OUTSIDE the lobby is where we create a life. Either we go along with the clique clacking resets in the lobby of the theatre of the absurd OR we take personal charge and WALK OUT! THERE WE learn how we manifest our PERSONAL experience. This is like the moment when someone yells FIRE in the lobby. WALK OUT!

thepainterdoug
11th September 2022, 22:36
satori

the article illustrates it exactly.

i start my day looking over gab, p avalon, paul craig roberts, epoch, juditial watch, bannon, gateway pundant and the like. the msm is already in the ozone and i know that drill.

after seeing and reading all similar to the above, i must now settle down and write a song, or continue editing my musical hypnotta, in the hope i will somehow not be excluded by the woke, blue entertainment cult that will not endorse anyone with a mind of their own, and certainly not anyone who would identify with m a g a.
and what is that curse word? make- america- great- again.
yep that the horrible mantra we all need disavow. not NAZI. thats ok. but MAGA.

so some days I am able to clean my spiritual palette and begin. somedays not. either way, it all seems like fiddling while rome burns

onawah
11th September 2022, 22:39
I suggest seeing it, then putting your head in the sand for as long as it takes for it to sink in...:nod:
Normal consciousness can't take it all in, so a kind of identity crisis takes place.
Your consciousness has to expand, and your idea of who and what you are along with it.
It's like a new set of clothes at first.
Not at all comfortable, but eventually it stretches and conforms to your shape so that you gradually become accustomed to it.




losus4

its not overload. its the kind of info im seeing. to me it feels like two choices/ . see it, or put my head in the sand

thepainterdoug
11th September 2022, 23:07
onawah. yes doing my best.

does a thermometer record the temperature, or rationalize it?

onawah
12th September 2022, 00:11
A thermometer only records one measurement, human reality is meant to be multi-dimensional and encompass much more than that.:flower:

onawah. yes doing my best.

does a thermometer record the temperature, or rationalize it?

Delight
12th September 2022, 06:51
human reality is meant to be multi-dimensional and encompass much more than ....:flower:


I listen to Joe Dispenza Testimonials with relish. These stories are delicious and present to me UNDER EVERYTHING that the world of things (bodies and environment) is malleable. The testimonials are of healing.

I hear in many words: "I went down a path of suffering." IMO "Losing my grip" took me through huge amounts of suffering. I went down so many rabbit holes of "knowledge" searches. I could never get to the bottom of these narratives. The stories just became more and more convoluted. I was a "dedicated" seeker. I dismissed the suggestion that seeking is never finding. These days I see so many going where I went before EXCEPT now the stories get even more outlandish. The history so fractured. It has now become more than I can bear.

Now I choose something different. Making that choice when it is DEFINITELY CERTAINLY intended redeems me as I do the work of changing the habit of being my (old) "self". IMO now it is TRULY a projection of a greater SELF and I am learning to work with my own material.

Meeriam Webster


Definition of redeem
transitive verb

1a: to buy back : REPURCHASE
b: to get or win back
2: to free from what distresses or harms: such as
a: to free from captivity by payment of ransom
b: to extricate from or help to overcome something detrimental
c: to release from blame or debt : CLEAR
d: to free from the consequences of sin
3: to change for the better : REFORM
4: REPAIR, RESTORE
5a: to free from a lien by payment of an amount secured thereby
b(1): to remove the obligation of by payment
the U.S. Treasury redeems savings bonds on demand
(2): to exchange for something of value
redeem trading stamps
c: to make good : FULFILL
6a: to atone for : EXPIATE
redeem an error
b(1): to offset the bad effect of
(2): to make worthwhile : RETRIEVE

I understand redemption to mean a kind of reshaping of our existence such that it is now leading to a destiny of true SELF value. Just because something is broken does NOT mean we cannot heal it! Honestly I feel we are all in the last best effort to take responsibility for our healing.
Listen to this story with awe at how we redeem what we know is ours to heal.

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DNA
12th September 2022, 07:33
Acclimation.
We are used to a sanity rich atmosphere and it takes time to adjust.
Watch your breathing, slow your gate, adjust your expectations.
I'm going to say something that is a little berating.

Stop being so entitled.
Your world has been ripped from you, yes.
Stop clinging to it.
History is chock full of folks who have had their world ripped away from them.
Voting isn't coming back, we lost that.
The current regime will never step down from power.
Things will get progressively worse.
Totalitarian like.
If you do not stay one step ahead of what's coming you may very well not survive it.
Get right in the head.
Don't cling to the way you want things to be, be brave enough to see things as they really are.

And one last thing.
Get Rural.
It would be a pity to get stuck in the big city.

Delight
12th September 2022, 07:44
IMO we should all just embrace WOOWOO 100% and embrace we are in a LOVING Universe where we SIMPLY need to learn how to be supported! Jarrad Hewett has a grip for those losing theirs....

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lunaflare
12th September 2022, 08:06
Some great posts.
stop clinging, good one, DNA.
Delight, your post reminded me of Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
We are forever adjusting to other ways of perceiving reality. Letting go of what we think/believe is true or real. Fear is surely a shackle..

PainterDoug, go gently. I really get how you feel, bro! But hey, it is ok not to create.
There is a lot of "stuff" in this world. I think these times are about dissolving; going inward.
Less is more.
Day by day.
Be Kind.
These are a few of my go-to sayings of late.

Jim_Duyer
12th September 2022, 15:09
When laws and justice are seen to be not working, when obvious and blatant law-breakers run free to continue, without any investigation let alone punishment, it saps the core of good people everywhere. We've fought too many times to ensure our freedoms and our Constitution - and now the greedy portion of our population allows this to go on - so long as they are being given freebies or their beliefs are allowed to flourish. The longer it continues, the worse will be the eventual swing back to the original side of the scales. We'll see persecutions and worse come to play.

As a child we were taught, or should have been taught, that this is yours, this is mine, and this belongs to all of us. Today we have groups that believe they can overturn hard-working and decent people who fought for what they have, so that the products of this investment can then be shared with those who have nothing, because they did nothing. They took no chances, did not work 80 hours per week growing their "child" into a success.

When the harsh conditions of war passed, parents began babying their children and giving them everything without working for it. They allowed them to stay in the home long after Univ was over, and they loaned or gave them money when asked for. Now we are paying the price for that softness.

But don't worry, Nature will send us another horrible war very soon, and the scales will come back to balance.
What a race we are, we humans.

thepainterdoug
12th September 2022, 15:57
DNA/ I get the thrust of your comments. However, my world has not be ripped from me and I am doing fine. This is how I contribute to P A.
This is not just about me. I asked what others are feeling and seeing? who else is struggling?
stop being so entitled? to truth telling? to a sense of fair play ,to law and common sense and rational thinking? well then what, what then do we adjust to and how low do we set the bar ?
If I go to the bank someday soon and ask for my money, when they say , sorry its all gone, should i go ,hey dats cool ?

thepainterdoug
12th September 2022, 20:35
Bill feel free to end this post. I don't like the tone and temperature of where this is going and I will no longer make comment here .
I will leave it up to you.
thanks
doug

onawah
12th September 2022, 20:41
This one might make the cut, especially given how timely it is. Ben Davidson just now posted:
WORLD GOING CRAZY | Stress and Endurance
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And possibly this:
Last Day on Earth | AWARD-WINNING Short Film ( Alan Watts )8CbjHpnHmOg



Bill feel free to end this post. I don't like the tone and temperature of where this is going and I will no longer make comment here .
I will leave it up to you.
thanks
doug

AriG
12th September 2022, 21:08
Doug,

You might enjoy this? Edit to add: Glenn doesn’t divulge what he has discovered and he is getting a lot of heat for that (relatable) but I thought his comments about “you are not alone” might resonate. It’ll be interesting to see what he has concluded. And to anyone out there who feels compelled to chastise someone for their vulnerability? Shame on you! Try to exercise some empathy. Karma will ensure that there is no ear for you if and when you can’t cope.

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DNA
12th September 2022, 21:09
DNA/ I get the thrust of your comments. However, my world has not be ripped from me and I am doing fine. This is how I contribute to P A.
This is not just about me. I asked what others are feeling and seeing? who else is struggling?
stop being so entitled? to truth telling? to a sense of fair play ,to law and common sense and rational thinking? well then what, what then do we adjust to and how low do we set the bar ?
If I go to the bank someday soon and ask for my money, when they say , sorry its all gone, should i go ,hey dats cool ?

I'm generalizing and I'm not talking about you or anyone in particular.
I love you bro.
I'm commenting about what I'm seeing at large in the context of the initial thrust of this thread.
And that is in my opinion we have to adapt.
People, humans have this thing where they refuse to believe horrible things have happened or are about to happen.
Denial is a big part of the human psyche and I'm trying to touch on this.
We have all of this information at our finger tips here, but there is a disconnect.
I'm simply trying to nudge folks into agreeing with the reality shared on this forum rather than that of your friends, relatives and neighbors.
Again I'm generalizing here.
Love you guys.

If I sound like an asshole it's because time is of the essence.
So pretty please, with a cherry on top, get ready for what's coming and that means getting your head right and to stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

The bank will stop giving money, public works will stop providing, no more heating, electricity, or clean water. Stores won't have food, gasoline won't be available and your house may become tool dangerous to stay. Plan for each contingency accordingly.

thepainterdoug
12th September 2022, 21:56
DNA/ We have always gotten along. but your answer was directed towards me. If not meant so , perhaps you could say, doug this is not directed at you, but to all concerned here. then proceed.
When you touch on "entitlement" regarding me? well the fact that we have computers and can chat away on P Avalon is in itself a mark of entitlement. We are all in a sense entitled to things like running water, food and transportation. Are we going to compere ourselves to the dark ages now? Is this not a capitulating to our defeat at the hands of these bastards! Im surprised no one mentioned my white supremacy on top of all!

And to the comment that its not important that I keep creating? well actually thats true, but then its not important that anyone keeps doing what they are doing as well .
stop making money, stop all your activities, there is too much making money and activities in the first place.. right?

No one with the exception of a few really know me here. I gave up all career, business and money making priorities for the privilege to make art and create music.
when you ask me to stop making art etc, you ask the birds to stop singing. , with a cherry on top.

anyway, im cool love you all. everyone is stressed. keep Avalon alive .

AriG
12th September 2022, 22:03
:heart:Illegitimi non carborundum.

thepainterdoug
12th September 2022, 22:26
mures sunt, dedit eis potestatem

AriG
12th September 2022, 23:29
Exactly, pearls and swine.

Johnnycomelately
13th September 2022, 00:33
I have refrained from adding any two cents here because, as bubu mentioned, self-pity is worse than useless. I will add that pity is at least useless, as a proxy for love, and gets worse from there.

That’s how this thread started out, but now it has some good ideas. So, to add to the upvibe, here is a vid just added to “Here and Now” by Natalie. I like the presenter’s expressions about, to paraphrase, stepping back. At the very end, his talk about stillness, gold.


This may have been posted before, but it seemed appropriate for right here and now...
Aloneness to Oneness - Life Changing Spiritual Documentary Film on Non-duality
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Harmony
13th September 2022, 01:19
I think it is wonderful for Doug and others to have and share feelings and concerns of how the world is unfolding at the moment. How can you look at what is happening and not see the changes taking place and feel the loss of the the things you love and felt many before us tried to secure with hard work and dedication for a better future for each generation that will come. That's a beautiful thing.



All we can do is be aware that things have changed, infiltration and hijacking of human goodness and trust has taken place and I think we are trying to guide it back on course. It's ok for each to feel the way we do and share that. :heart:

DNA
13th September 2022, 02:34
DNA/ We have always gotten along. but your answer was directed towards me. If not meant so , perhaps you could say, doug this is not directed at you, but to all concerned here. then proceed.
When you touch on "entitlement" regarding me? well the fact that we have computers and can chat away on P Avalon is in itself a mark of entitlement. We are all in a sense entitled to things like running water, food and transportation. Are we going to compere ourselves to the dark ages now? Is this not a capitulating to our defeat at the hands of these bastards! Im surprised no one mentioned my white supremacy on top of all!

And to the comment that its not important that I keep creating? well actually thats true, but then its not important that anyone keeps doing what they are doing as well .
stop making money, stop all your activities, there is too much making money and activities in the first place.. right?

No one with the exception of a few really know me here. I gave up all career, business and money making priorities for the privilege to make art and create music.
when you ask me to stop making art etc, you ask the birds to stop singing. , with a cherry on top.

anyway, im cool love you all. everyone is stressed. keep Avalon alive .

The antagonism is noted.
This was not my intention.
The mods are free to erase my posts here with no hard feelings or sour grapes from my self.
Good luck to everyone.

Tyy1907
13th September 2022, 04:38
I'm of the belief that to get through these and the upcoming times it's imperative to, consciously partner with Source Creator. It's really that simple. See for yourself. Run an experiment, give it an honest go, knowing as you ask that it's your origin and birthright.

Innocent Warrior
13th September 2022, 09:35
I'm of the belief that to get through these and the upcoming times it's imperative to, consciously partner with Source Creator. It's really that simple. See for yourself. Run an experiment, give it an honest go, knowing as you ask that it's your origin and birthright.

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Journeyman
13th September 2022, 10:17
Doug,

Apologies if this reply seems to go off at something of a tangent, but reading this:



I called her and asked her what is going on for her ? , she replied that she was ok and then all of a sudden while on the phone with a friend, she changed in an instant.
She said she is not the same person. She is somewhat vacant. As if bit by a vampire.

Her creativity, her buoyancy and her feeling for life was altered at that moment. She no longer cares to make art or participate in things. Like invasion of the body snatchers, she is the same, but very different .

I too am struggling with purpose in all my creative offerings.

Anyone else know of or hearing this?

and then Satori's reply:


Invasion of the Body Snatchers is an apt metaphor. I recently watched the 1970s version with Donald Sutherland. I could not help get the feeling that we are living an eerily similar experience. “The same, but different.” To quote the Three Stooges.

I thought I should mention that there is a perspective on current events which directly predicted this kind of response, right down to the movie reference and the idea of people losing a key aspect of their identities.

I've posted about it before here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115503-The-Unified-Colour-Theory-and-what-it-means....

Frankly, it doesn't lend itself to a one sentene precis, but it outlines a work of dark sorcery over the past few years aiming to take us down to a point that the world can be rebuilt in the desired image. The alchemic principle for this is 'solve et coagula' and it's a concept that's well known in occult circles. The colour theory took us from 2010 to 2020, where Blogos identifys a shift to following an individual movie, currently A clockwork orange, but next years is Invasion of the Body snatchers and the movment into this has already began:

https://hermeticlessons.blogspot.com/2022/09/2022-year-of-samael-halloween-trailer.html

I'm going to return to this thread later and reply in a more conventional way, because I'm well aware introducing something like this could derail a useful discussion. II did however want to post this whilst fresh in my mind in case of interest and if you or anyone have questions I could try and answer on Avalon topic linked above.

Till then, sending best wishes your way. :heart:

thepainterdoug
13th September 2022, 15:24
Johnny C L

i watched the video you posted.Thank You! all content there is in and confirmed in the NDE, testimonies I have listened to. And they HAVE been to the other side to confirm it.
I have watched every Jeff Mara podcast. I am friends with Jeff and feel he is amazingly vital and honored to be doing this amazing service for everyone at this time in our existence.
There really isn't anything to fear. My only anxiety if how i will get out, and not that this physical life will end. Of course it will. And in ending, it all continues.


TYY1907/ yes partnership with source. That is the way.

Journeyman, thanks for your post, I will try to review all.

DNA, thanks my friend. I know you only mean to be constructive, and sometimes we need a splash of cold water.

If i may be so imposing, here is a lyric to a new song I have finished. should anyone want to hear it, just ask ///


I gladly see the world as it is … c dougauld 2022


I gladly see the world as it is… sadly see the world as it is,
we live upon a round spinning ball… the world is also flat , we can stand and never fall
ah …I see many many things, rain falling down makes the grass grow
ah… I know many many things, but never can I tell which way the wind blows

I gladly see the world as it is… sadly see the world as it is…
we build our little lives , within walls
on a world spinning round , knowing all is soon to fall

ah …. I feel many many things , that touch upon my heart and make my tears flow
ah… I think many many things , but keep them to myself , so only I know

I gladly see the world as it is. sadly see the world as it is,
in never ending darkness, were found,
that started with a bang, but we never heard a sound

ah…and all the loves that passed my way, wedding days that turn to funeral flowers
ah , guess things have to go their way ,
count the days and dream away the hours…

Bill Ryan
1st November 2022, 13:50
I too am struggling with purpose in all my creative offerings.

Anyone else know of or hearing this?Doug, I wonder if this might help.

This is an extract from one of Chris Martenson's recent videos. It's just a couple of minutes, and he's pointing out the important difference between depression and demoralization..

The movie is MOV format, but in case anyone can't play that, I've extracted the audio as a separate file, and there's also a transcript. For some people, this may be very helpful indeed.

https://projectavalon.net/Demoralization.mov (video)
https://projectavalon.net/Demoralization.mp3 (audio)

https://projectavalon.net/Demoralization.mov

~~~

Demoralization sounds like a depressing word, but it’s not, really. Demoralization is a very specific word. It’s NOT depression.

A lot of people are facing demoralization. And they ARE demoralized. Why? Demoralization happens when a person’s cognitive map no longer matches the reality they’re living in.

So people who get demoralized are [for example] prisoners of war. They happen to be people who are facing really big, life-altering things like a terminal cancer diagnosis. People slip through a phase of their cognitive map of who they are, and what they believe, and how they are in the world, no longer maps what’s happening out there.

Now we see this in young people all the time, and increasingly, more than 50% of people under 25 are going to go through some demoralizing incident and may get mischaracterized as depression — but it’s not.

Once we understand that ‘frame’ of what demoralization is, and how it’s different from depression, it gives us a lot of power, because often the people who are the most demoralized are actually the most intelligent.

Because they have a cognitive map that doesn’t match reality, and they’ve detected that quickly and accurately. So somebody who’s demoralized today, particularly someone who’s younger, is probably actually reading the situation correctly.

So the way we begin to use that ‘frame’ to enhance their lives and our interactions with someone who may be demoralized, or maybe ourselves, is that we understand that there’s nothing wrong with that.

In fact, that may be a sign that you’re on the right track, the sign that you need to detangle from the reality that’s no longer mapping into your cognitive self.

So hey, Young Person, you need to go to school and get good grades, and you’ll have a permanent record, and even if you’re a straight-A student with a 4.3 average, you may not get into one of the premier schools, but even if you did, you’d come out of it with crushing levels of student debt, and by the way, the Federal Reserve’s out there making sure that you can’t afford to buy a house, because it’s important to them that the people who already have houses are the winners in this story and the people who need to buy houses are the losers.

Oh by the way, have a happy life, and don’t forget to smile.

That’s demoralizing.