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justntime2learn
26th September 2022, 21:39
This morning


JUST IN - Pressure in the Nord Stream 2 pipeline drops to almost zero overnight in one of the two pipes. Reason unknown. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9339

Just now


JUST IN - Following the pressure drop in Nord Stream 2, a pressure drop has now also been recorded in both lines of Nord Stream 1, the operator says. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9351

s7e6e
26th September 2022, 23:53
This morning


JUST IN - Pressure in the Nord Stream 2 pipeline drops to almost zero overnight in one of the two pipes. Reason unknown. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9339

Just now


JUST IN - Following the pressure drop in Nord Stream 2, a pressure drop has now also been recorded in both lines of Nord Stream 1, the operator says. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9351

Complete bull****. 2 has never been used. 1 has been closed for weeks now.

justntime2learn
27th September 2022, 02:35
This morning


JUST IN - Pressure in the Nord Stream 2 pipeline drops to almost zero overnight in one of the two pipes. Reason unknown. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9339

Just now


JUST IN - Following the pressure drop in Nord Stream 2, a pressure drop has now also been recorded in both lines of Nord Stream 1, the operator says. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9351

Complete bull****. 2 has never been used. 1 has been closed for weeks now.

My apologies, but I still dont understand what's going on. The following is one of numerous articles online. Are they discussing something different than we are thinking?

Thanks in advance!

No clarity over cause in pressure drop in Nord Stream 2 pipeline: German ministry


BERLIN, Sept 26 (Reuters) - The German government has no clarity over what caused a sudden drop in pressure in the defunct Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, the economy ministry said on Monday in an emailed statement.

Nord Stream 2’s operator reported a sudden drop in pressure overnight, with a spokesperson suggesting there could have been a leak.

The Russian-owned pipeline, which was intended to double the volume of gas flowing from St. Petersburg under the Baltic Sea to Germany, had just been completed and was filled with 300 million cubic metres of gas when German Chancellor Olaf Scholz cancelled it shortly before Russia invaded Ukraine. (Reporting by Christian Kraemer; writing by Matthias Williams; editing by Rachel More)

Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-germany-pipeline-governme/no-clarity-over-cause-in-pressure-drop-in-nord-stream-2-pipeline-german-ministry-idUKS8N2Y20FC

justntime2learn
27th September 2022, 11:36
JUST IN - Danish Energy Agency puts the energy sector on orange alert, the second highest level, amid the multiple Nord Stream gas leaks.

The authorities in Denmark can't rule out a deliberate act. Breaks in gas pipelines happen extremely rarely, says the director of the Danish Energy Agency.

Nordstream 1 with 2 leaks between the Danish island of Bornholm and Karlskrona in Sweden 7 km apart. One leak on Nordstream 2 southeast of Bornholm.

Nord Stream says the damage to its key pipelines to Germany are "unprecedented" in the clearest signal yet that natural gas flows won't resume this winter. @disclosetv

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Link: https://t.me/disclosetv/9360



JUST IN - Sabotage cannot be ruled out. Damage to Nord Stream pipelines is unprecedented -Kremlin @disclosetv


Link: https://t.me/disclosetv/9361

justntime2learn
27th September 2022, 13:10
I'm beginning to wonder if these two events are connected.
Anyone know?


I wonder what would happen if the Danish and Swedish governments and their society learned that in today's summary report to the White House and the U.S. Congress an open report came in that British scuba divers from the Royal Navy were conducting exercises in the Bornholm Trench area for three days?

And what will be the surprise of the European bureaucrats in Brussels if they also saw at NATO HQ the answer of a secret American research institute, part of the Pentagon, that they had sold on 23 August two newest underwater robots to operate at depths of up to 150 meters? How will relations between the United Kingdom and the European Union be affected by the fact that two sailors from HIS Majesty's Navy will be honored tonight at 16:00 GMT for their services in combat and for conducting important activities in foreign territorial waters?

And what would be the entire civilized Western world's reaction if the Israeli government publishes yesterday's report of the Mossad on the successful sabotage of the Russian energy infrastructure by the PMCs under the command of the U.S. 6th Fleet?

Link: https://t.me/denatofication/3497


UPDATE - The surface area of the largest Nord Stream gas leak shows a "disturbance" of well over 1 kilometer in diameter, according to the Danish armed forces. @disclosetv

Link: https://t.me/disclosetv/9364

justntime2learn
27th September 2022, 14:54
June 14: U.S. Navy 6th Fleet partnered with U.S. Navy research and warfare centers to bring the latest advancements in unmanned underwater vehicle mine hunting technology. Experimentation was conducted off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark.

Last week: Kearsarge and Gunston Hall completed port calls in Gdynia and Gdansk.

Yesterday: USS Paul Ignatius in Gdynia.

American helicopter with the call sign FFAB123 from the wing of USS Kearsarge has been performing interesting maneuvers since 2 September. According to the ads-b.nl website, this callsign has been used recently by 6 helicopters, three of which have been identified as Sikorsky MH-60S. Overlaying the route of FFAB123 on the scheme of yesterday's accident, we get a rather interesting result - the helicopter was either flying along the route of the North Stream-2, or even between the points where the accident occurred.


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Link: https://t.me/denatofication/3499

Dick
27th September 2022, 17:25
WNFwZMkkLjg

Here you see the gas that’s escaping the northstream 2

Dick
27th September 2022, 17:29
There’s also a video of Joe Biden from 7 februari this year, saying that if the Russians cross the border of Oëkraine there will be no northstream 2 anymore
When the reporter ask him how he wil do that, because its in German hands, he said: we have our ways to do it…….

Dont know how to post this video, it’s on telegram.

justntime2learn
27th September 2022, 18:01
Yury Soshin in March 2020 (source):

1. Terrorist attacks on Russian submarine pipelines are almost unavoidable. It is very likely that the United States will be the main initiator.
2. The consequence of attacks on Russian submarine pipelines will be a massive EU crisis. The result of the latter, with a high degree of probability, will not be alarmist cohesion and state-society mobilization, but rather complex disorientation and disintegration.
3. The result will be the liquidation of the European Union as an independent geopolitical actor, its transition under the comprehensive control of the U.S., with the latter consolidating its role as the world economic and political hegemon.
4. The Russian authorities need, at least at the level of analytical models, to work through the prospect of the emergence of "unthinkable" scenarios.

Link: https://t.me/denatofication/3506

justntime2learn
27th September 2022, 18:06
There’s also a video of Joe Biden from 7 februari this year, saying that if the Russians cross the border of Oëkraine there will be no northstream 2 anymore
When the reporter ask him how he wil do that, because its in German hands, he said: we have our ways to do it…….

Dont know how to post this video, it’s on telegram.

I'm not sure how to embed the video either, but here's the link: https://t.me/denatofication/3503


Biden in Feb 2022: "If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

Q: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?"

Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."

Via Aaron Mate.

Delight
27th September 2022, 20:40
WNFwZMkkLjg

Here you see the gas that’s escaping the northstream 2

I feel so sick at heart today. If the US did this, what will happen next?

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New podcast - suddenly makes sense after Nord Stream pipeline explosions - Currency wars: US Federal Reserve is actively trying to collapse the European Central Bank

- The US Federal Reserve is at war with the ECB and the Euro
- Fed will spike interest rates until European economy collapses
- US funding of Ukraine as proxy for war is designed to swamp Europe into Russian war
- War with Russia ensures complete cut off of natural gas to Europe
- Result is collapse of European industry, protecting America's industrial interests
- City of London and Vatican control much of the world: This is coming to an end
- Consider the recent Nord Stream pipeline explosions / sabotage - WHO did it? (Take a guess)


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s7e6e
28th September 2022, 00:40
This morning


JUST IN - Pressure in the Nord Stream 2 pipeline drops to almost zero overnight in one of the two pipes. Reason unknown. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9339

Just now


JUST IN - Following the pressure drop in Nord Stream 2, a pressure drop has now also been recorded in both lines of Nord Stream 1, the operator says. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9351

Complete bull****. 2 has never been used. 1 has been closed for weeks now.

In light of recent developments, I realize I was wrong yesterday and I do apologize.

mountain_jim
28th September 2022, 02:45
Great meme usage from a classic movie - Doctor Strangelove

https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=1050,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/media_attachments/files/116/771/168/original/bdf567ec0dd7ea6a.jpg

justntime2learn
28th September 2022, 03:13
This morning


JUST IN - Pressure in the Nord Stream 2 pipeline drops to almost zero overnight in one of the two pipes. Reason unknown. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9339

Just now


JUST IN - Following the pressure drop in Nord Stream 2, a pressure drop has now also been recorded in both lines of Nord Stream 1, the operator says. @disclosetv

Source: https://t.me/disclosetv/9351

Complete bull****. 2 has never been used. 1 has been closed for weeks now.

In light of recent developments, I realize I was wrong yesterday and I do apologize.

No worries!

I'll speak for myself and likely many here.
You just earned a great deal of respect my friend :heart:

Not everyone can do what you did.

Thank you!

mizo
28th September 2022, 07:33
One step closer to nuclear war...

https://twitter.com/NewsNancy9/status/1574934904516665345


Also, this terrorist attack is not even mentioned on the BBC news website...

mizo
28th September 2022, 09:43
The day the US declared war on Europe...

https://twitter.com/Vice_Signal/status/1575006039875158017

mountain_jim
28th September 2022, 14:40
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/15-things-we-know-about-mysterious-explosions-severely-damaged-nord-stream-1-and-2

http://endoftheamericandream.com/14-things-we-know-about-the-mysterious-explosions-that-severely-damaged-the-nord-stream-1-and-nord-stream-2-pipelines/


'Forever Unusable': 15 Things We Know About The Mysterious “Explosions” That Severely Damaged The Nord Stream 1 And 2 Pipelines

Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,

Something really strange just happened. On Monday, large underwater “explosions” were detected in the precise areas of the sea where the Nord Stream pipeline system is now leaking. In fact, the explosions were so large that they actually registered on the Richter scale. If someone wanted to purposely damage the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines, very large explosions would be needed because those pipelines are extremely thick. So it appears that this was a deliberate act of sabotage, and that is what many European officials are now alleging. But if that is the case, who was behind it?

At this point we just don’t know.

But there are certain facts that we do have. The following are 15 things we know about the “mysterious explosions” that severely damaged the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines…

< much at link >

mojo
28th September 2022, 17:04
Noticed that there are other discussions on this issue. Tucker Carlson had this as the main story last night. It would make a good poll question but just having opinions on this act of TERRORISM is very important. The x22 Report continues to hypothesize a scare event and this sabotage is huge enough to fit the bill.

justntime2learn
28th September 2022, 23:09
The “sabotage” on the NS 1 & NS 2 pipelines:

We’ve studied this for the last 14 hours.

There are 3 things you need to understand about these pipelines:

1. These pipelines were Russia’s leverage over Europe. Massive leverage. Russia doing this is effectively political self-destruction. Not only in terms of economic profit, but in terms of strategic leverage over the EU bloc amid the conflict in Ukraine.

2. These pipes are built with steel reinforced concrete. They are made to withstand an impact from aircraft carrier anchors. They are basically indestructible without explosive charges.

3. The only realistic way this could have been carried out is via submarine/ship launched underwater drones.

There are only 3 countries that actively use this technology: USA, Russia & possibly China.

This means that there are gonna be fragments in the area, fragments of the explosives / drones used to destroy those pipelines.

US Navy warships and submarine were active in those exact areas a few days ago.

Spiegel reports that in summer, USA notified Germany about a possible Ukrainian attack on the NS pipelines.

There’s currently no evidence against the US, Russia, nor — Ukraine (Ukraine does not have the capability to carry out such an operation)

Make your own conclusion

Link: http://t.me/asbmil


Swedish coastguard discovers 4th leak at NS pipeline

Link: http://t.me/asbmil


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Well then. Date reads 27th Sept 2022

Link: https://t.me/asbmil/5751

TargeT
29th September 2022, 08:17
Hmm, strange that Nord Stream news has evaporated..

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justntime2learn
29th September 2022, 12:34
The following posts are from ASB military. I didn't include links as there are many with with each post containing a small amount of text.

“Incident at Nord Stream occurred in a zone controlled by US intelligence” - Russian Foreign Ministry

Trump: “Sabotage of NS pipeline could leave to a further escalation or even war.”

“NATO will respond to any deliberate attack on its critical infrastructure” - alliance statement

Sounds like someone is scared of retaliation for something they’ve done🤔

We can be almost certain that there will be a retaliation to this — somewhere, by someone. Give it a few days. Now is the most dangerous time of the last 7 months, by far

The U.S. was always extremely worried about its underwater internet cables, that’s one area that is impossible to watch and can be sabotaged extremely easily.


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"Last night, I heard and read the White House press secretary’s explanations, which are not even ridiculous any longer, they are pathetic, and they evoke deep sympathy and pity," Zakharova

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre’s attempts to explain away US President Joe Biden’s remarks about ending the Nord Stream 2 project were pathetic, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told the Soloviev Live TV channel

“Speaking of where the NS incident occurred; There have been allegations that those are neutral waters and so on. But in fact, that is the exclusive economic zone of Denmark and Sweden, the very NATO-centric countries that are stuffed with US-made weapons and which are fully controlled by American intelligence agencies, who have full control over the situation over there," - Zakharova

Moscow insists on a probe into the circumstances of "unprecedented attacks" on Russian Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, the Russian embassy to the United States said on Wednesday.

"We note the attempts by some U.S. legislators to put blame on Russia for the incidents that occurred on Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines," it said. "Perhaps, they have a better view from the top of Capitol Hill. But if that is the case, they must also have seen the U.S. warships’ activities at the very site of the Russian infrastructure disruption just the day before. Or noticed drones and helicopters fly over there. Or observed U.S. Navy exercises with underwater explosives that have been conducted in the same area some time ago. Finally, they should have recalled the promises made by President Biden to "bring an end" to the Nord Stream 2 project."

"What is obvious to us is that those who ponder about the incident seem to forget to ask the main question: who benefits from the pipelines’ rupture? The answer is on the surface. The decades-long energy trade between Moscow and Europe has long turned into an eyesore for Washington strategists. Unable to offer a decent alternative to reliable and, no less importantly, cheap supplies of gas, the U.S. decided to "squeeze out" Russia as a competitor using non-market methods and sanctions," the embassy noted. "Washington is trying hard to get its allies hooked on an expensive and environmentally unfriendly "LNG needle".

"For our part, we insist on the need for a comprehensive and objective examination of the circumstances of the unprecedented attacks on Russian pipelines. To discuss this issue, the Russian Federation will convene an extraordinary meeting of the UN Security Council,"

justntime2learn
29th September 2022, 12:52
US denies 'preposterous' claim they 'sabotaged' Nord Stream 2 - as Trump shares video of Biden promising to 'bring an end' to pipeline and asks 'World War III anyone?'


The US government is denying 'preposterous' allegations that it is behind a gas leak in the Baltic Sea on Wednesday.

It comes as Donald Trump suggested that 'World War III' could be near while sharing a video of President Joe Biden threatening to stop Russia's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

Mysterious and alarming leaks were found in both Nord Stream pipelines this week, prompting the European Union to call it the result of a 'deliberate act.'

Multiple accusations have already been lobbed at the Kremlin amid ever-growing hostilities over its illegal invasion of Ukraine.

Meanwhile Moscow is pointing the finger at the United States, declaring that Washington is 'obliged' to explain its alleged role in the 'sabotage.'

A US official denied the accusations, according to the Washington Post. DailyMail.com has reached out to the White House for comment.

Trump also appeared to back Russia's theory on Wednesday when he posted on his Truth Social app a video of Biden from early February pledging to 'bring an end to' Nord Stream 2 if Vladimir Putin's forces invaded Ukraine.

'Wow, what a statement. World War III anyone?' Trump wrote along with the video.

The same video was also shared by the Russian government on Wednesday while suggesting Biden was behind the explosions that led to the Baltic Sea leaks.

Asked for clarification on his stance, Trump's spokesman Taylor Budowich said 'the statements speak for themselves.'

He also referred DailyMail.com to an earlier post where Trump offered to lead negotiations between Russia and Ukraine while warning current US leaders to not 'make matters worse.'

'U.S. "Leadership" should remain "cool, calm, and dry" on the SABOTAGE of the Nord Stream Pipelines. This is a big event that should not entail a big solution, at least not yet,' the former president wrote.

'The Russia/Ukraine catastrophe should NEVER have happened, and would definitely not have happened if I were President. Do not make matters worse with the pipeline blowup.'

Explosions preceded three gas leaks in the Nord Stream Pipelines in Europe's Baltic Sea

Biden said on February 7, 2022 that the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which he waived sanctions on, could be stopped if Russia invaded Ukraine

He ended with, 'Be strategic, be smart (brilliant!), get a negotiated deal done NOW. Both sides need and want it. The entire World is at stake. I will head up group???'

And just before that, Trump compared the pipelines' gas leak to the potentially devastated storm heading for the state of Florida. He said Hurricane Ian was not as 'important' as the damage in Europe's waters.

'Everyone is talking about the big hurricane barreling into Florida, as they should be, but perhaps a far more important event in the longer term was the announcement that the Nord Stream I & II Pipelines out of Russia...has been SABOTAGED,' he wrote in the earliest of the three posts.

'This could lead to major escalation, or War!'

In that statement Trump also stated he brought the pipelines 'to the World's attention as President when I explained how crippling reliance on it could be for Germany and other parts of Europe.'

'Everybody laughed at the time, but they are not laughing anymore!' he wrote.

During his presidency Trump did approve sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 pipeline between Germany and Russia, which was near completion when the penalties were levied in December 2019.

Trump captioned his re-Truth of Biden's February comments with: 'Wow, what a statement. World War III anyone?'

He also volunteered to lead US negotiations to solve the crisis between Russia and Ukraine

Trump's earliest of the three Nord Stream posts on Wednesday morning appeared to compare the leaks with Hurricane Ian

Biden waived US objection to the pipeline just several months into his White House term.

But it was soon halted again, this time by Germany, whose government canceled the plans in opposition to Russia recognizing parts of eastern Ukraine as independent pro-Kremlin states.

Putin launched his invasion just a few days later.

Nord Stream 1 was similarly out of operation due to Russia's war on Ukraine.

Though Nord Stream 2 never begun operations, it was full with gas by the time it was halted. Climate scientists fear the repercussions of the leak could be disastrous.

Sharing Biden's early February warnings on stopping the pipeline, the Kremlin's Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on social media: 'Biden is obliged to answer the question of whether the US carried out its threat.'

'We must be responsible for our words,' the Putin puppet said, according to the Associated Press. 'Europe must know the truth.'

Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11258755/Donald-Trump-Biden-Nord-Stream-Kremlin.html

Kryztian
29th September 2022, 13:10
We now know who did it!!!!

https://i.imgur.com/T2XfH4Q.jpg

thepainterdoug
29th September 2022, 14:32
a Russian passport found floating in the the nearby waters of the sabotaged pipelines found?
an incriminating terrorist pilots passport found on the streets below the wt centers after the planes hit and the towers collapsed?
could this be a copycat caper ?

surely, this seals it all up!

great posts everyone!!

Sue (Ayt)
29th September 2022, 16:28
"What is obvious to us is that those who ponder about the incident seem to forget to ask the main question: who benefits from the pipelines’ rupture? The answer is on the surface. The decades-long energy trade between Moscow and Europe has long turned into an eyesore for Washington strategists. Unable to offer a decent alternative to reliable and, no less importantly, cheap supplies of gas, the U.S. decided to "squeeze out" Russia as a competitor using non-market methods and sanctions," the embassy noted. "Washington is trying hard to get its allies hooked on an expensive and environmentally unfriendly "LNG needle".

Can anyone explain to me what makes LNG environmentally unfriendly?
(I would like to understand it better)
Thanks

TomKat
29th September 2022, 17:00
"What is obvious to us is that those who ponder about the incident seem to forget to ask the main question: who benefits from the pipelines’ rupture? The answer is on the surface. The decades-long energy trade between Moscow and Europe has long turned into an eyesore for Washington strategists. Unable to offer a decent alternative to reliable and, no less importantly, cheap supplies of gas, the U.S. decided to "squeeze out" Russia as a competitor using non-market methods and sanctions," the embassy noted. "Washington is trying hard to get its allies hooked on an expensive and environmentally unfriendly "LNG needle".

Can anyone explain to me what makes LNG environmentally unfriendly?
(I would like to understand it better)
Thanks

I'm pretty sure it burns clean with no emissions.

Johnnycomelately
29th September 2022, 17:16
As far as I know, LNG is transported by ships. These are probably still big polluters even though new cleaner fuel standards came in recently ( in the last year or two).





"What is obvious to us is that those who ponder about the incident seem to forget to ask the main question: who benefits from the pipelines’ rupture? The answer is on the surface. The decades-long energy trade between Moscow and Europe has long turned into an eyesore for Washington strategists. Unable to offer a decent alternative to reliable and, no less importantly, cheap supplies of gas, the U.S. decided to "squeeze out" Russia as a competitor using non-market methods and sanctions," the embassy noted. "Washington is trying hard to get its allies hooked on an expensive and environmentally unfriendly "LNG needle".

Can anyone explain to me what makes LNG environmentally unfriendly?
(I would like to understand it better)
Thanks

I'm pretty sure it burns clean with no emissions.

TomKat
29th September 2022, 17:21
on Coast radio, Jjohn Hogue said there were US Navy divers doing a drill in the area before the explosion. He also said the US wants to keep Germany contained.

JackMcThorn
29th September 2022, 18:33
When the news broke and the u.s. was quickly accused; I sort of had my doubts if we are talking a typical american leadership. What america does not have is a typical american leadership so I guess all bets are off.

The interesting idea to point out is 1 was barely in service and had maintenance concerns and 2 was never online. Europe said it would respond to any attacks on its infrastructure at the time the leaks were discovered. The part that is interesting is Europe is done with the Russian gas? Or they were 'not done yet?' It's sort of a mute point. If they were not done yet, they sure are now.

There is also alt-media presenters noting the idea of collaboration without much detail. Sort of like the americans and someone else. Well, if that is possible, Germany might have agreed to end the pipelines for good. [The timing is a little off. Usually there is precise timing of certain actions.]

There is a little bit of updates here in Ireland. Basically, no one knows for sure and an investigation is pending.

I discovered that 1 & 2 are about 8o-11o metres deep. I do not think frogmen dive that deep so some sophisticated equipment to include submarines which are more than capable at this depth is interesting to note.

They think the gas leaks will be secured by Monday.

justntime2learn
29th September 2022, 18:55
Suspicious US Activity Around Gas Pipes, Confirmed - Dirty NATO Tactics?



US Military helicopters were circling the area of the Nord Stream pipeline leaks for hours just days before the explosions happened, according to air scanners.

A Navy Sikorsky MH-60R Seahawk helicopter hovered over the location in the Baltic Sea for three days in a row on September 1, 2 and 3, while a NH90 military helicopter of the Dutch Navy was also flying in the area monitoring American activity on September 2. Further flights over leak areas were detected on September 22 and 26.

Surely not a coincidence - NATO's direct action begins?

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Link: https://t.me/ResistorNewswire/7552

TargeT
29th September 2022, 19:10
Suspicious US Activity Around Gas Pipes, Confirmed - Dirty NATO Tactics?



US Military helicopters were circling the area of the Nord Stream pipeline leaks for hours just days before the explosions happened, according to air scanners.

A Navy Sikorsky MH-60R Seahawk helicopter hovered over the location in the Baltic Sea for three days in a row on September 1, 2 and 3, while a NH90 military helicopter of the Dutch Navy was also flying in the area monitoring American activity on September 2. Further flights over leak areas were detected on September 22 and 26.

Surely not a coincidence - NATO's direct action begins?

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Link: https://t.me/ResistorNewswire/7552

any radar screen captures, or photos, or is this just a "sources say" type of thing

justntime2learn
29th September 2022, 21:50
Suspicious US Activity Around Gas Pipes, Confirmed - Dirty NATO Tactics?



US Military helicopters were circling the area of the Nord Stream pipeline leaks for hours just days before the explosions happened, according to air scanners.

A Navy Sikorsky MH-60R Seahawk helicopter hovered over the location in the Baltic Sea for three days in a row on September 1, 2 and 3, while a NH90 military helicopter of the Dutch Navy was also flying in the area monitoring American activity on September 2. Further flights over leak areas were detected on September 22 and 26.

Surely not a coincidence - NATO's direct action begins?

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Link: https://t.me/ResistorNewswire/7552

any radar screen captures, or photos, or is this just a "sources say" type of thing

It's a source thing. I'm still a rookie at this but I'm learning to find and include more sources with more detail.

All I'm aware of at this time was post number #5
Don't know if it helps or not.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119616-Nord-Stream-1-2-Is-sabotage-behind-it&p=1520065&viewfull=1#post1520065

norman
30th September 2022, 02:29
I posted this in the WW3 thread but I probably should have put it here instead . .



Joseph P. Farrell - NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM SEPT 29 2022 (https://podbay.fm/p/news-and-views-from-the-nefarium/e/1664485220)

SHOW NOTES
EG shared this article, and finally, someone wrote something that I largely agree with regarding the sabotage of the Nordstream 2 pipeline:


HOW TO STAGE A SABOTAGE: L'Affair Farewell, Fake History, Fake Science By Deep State Design (https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/how-to-stage-a-sabotage-laffair-farewell)


https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85996d2b-cba3-4480-bf9d-c48e21f18c18_771x807.png

Satori
30th September 2022, 02:58
An alternative hypothesis to fingering the USA as the “who did it” is offered by others, such as Sebastian Gorka. Gorka is a well-known military and intelligence analyst and former Deputy Assistant To Trump.

Following the cui bono line of reasoning, which is of course quite reasonable, one of the competing hypotheses is that Russia did it.

Why?

To fend off the rising discontent in Russia about the war in Ukraine and the recent mobilization of 300,000 reserves. If Russia is viewed by its citizenry as the victim of USA and western aggression, then Putin’s actions are more acceptable to the rank and file Russian citizens, the theory goes. The war is not just Russia v Ukraine, but also the west, that is Europe and the USA against Russia.

A Russian false flag.

I don’t know. None of us do. But it is an hypothesis that cannot be dismissed out of hand.

And as I said in an earlier post: I doubt we can hang this on any one country or even a few. This may transcend national boundaries and lead directly to the global, criminal oligarchs. Thus, if you want to look at countries as culprits, Russia, China, Germany, the United Kingdom, the USA et al. are in on it.

This is consistent with the global reset and the program we are witnessing to cull the herd.

That is where my money is on this.

For what it’s worth of course.

Mike Gorman
30th September 2022, 03:48
Methane rich natural gas will of course be reabsorbed into the global Carbon cycle, you cannot add to this, it is intrinsic to the planet, but of course this sabotage is a classic provocation, wars have been started over much less and we know Biden blurted about ending the Nord stream project, it is so obvious as to be ridiculous, 'who me, you think I dun it'? Very frightening really.

justntime2learn
30th September 2022, 03:59
An alternative hypothesis to fingering the USA as the “who did it” is offered by others, such as Sebastian Gorka. Gorka is a well-known military and intelligence analyst and former Deputy Assistant To Trump.

Following the cui bono line of reasoning, which is of course quite reasonable, one of the competing hypotheses is that Russia did it.

Why?

To fend off the rising discontent in Russia about the war in Ukraine and the recent mobilization of 300,000 reserves. If Russia is viewed by its citizenry as the victim of USA and western aggression, then Putin’s actions are more acceptable to the rank and file Russian citizens, the theory goes. The war is not just Russia v Ukraine, but also the west, that is Europe and the USA against Russia.

A Russian false flag.

I don’t know. None of us do. But it is an hypothesis that cannot be dismissed out of hand.

And as I said in an earlier post: I doubt we can hang this on any one country or even a few. This may transcend national boundaries and lead directly to the global, criminal oligarchs. Thus, if you want to look at countries as culprits, Russia, China, Germany, the United Kingdom, the USA et al. are in on it.

This is consistent with the global reset and the program we are witnessing to cull the herd.

That is where my money is on this.

For what it’s worth of course.

To me it means a lot!

During these times I think it's important to do just that, think. It's like putting a puzzle together, the more the better.

Lately I've been thinking just what you have stated. I remember when I used to think one party was good and it turns out that may not be entirely true if at all. Now I'm starting to think larger scale so instead of what appears to be a country fighting the evil West may not be that at all. Perhaps another distraction targeting a certain group of people. IDK

The first stories and headlines are rarely if ever true. It always takes a lot of due diligence, research and time to get closer to the truth.

I feel so blessed to have so many friends here on Avalon. So many gifted and intelligent people willingly give their time, knowledge and many other things to others like me and helping them grow. Kind of like an online garden of Eden :heart:

Thank you all for listening to me :)

TargeT
30th September 2022, 04:24
A Russian false flag.

I don’t know. None of us do. But it is an hypothesis that cannot be dismissed out of hand.

I think on purpose, there are strategies being executed at levels that the vast majority of people are unaware of, and those (like us) that see something are probably also a bit confused as we still think locally far too often when facing globalist factions.



And as I said in an earlier post: I doubt we can hang this on any one country or even a few. This may transcend national boundaries and lead directly to the global, criminal oligarchs. Thus, if you want to look at countries as culprits, Russia, China, Germany, the United Kingdom, the USA et al. are in on it.

This is consistent with the global reset and the program we are witnessing to cull the herd.

That is where my money is on this.

For what it’s worth of course.

I think this system was... pre-emptively started, aka... not fully executed with the original plan, and thus we are seeing a bit more of the "under pinnings" than we were supposed to; but with that said I think it is still very much going "to plan".

the fact that every single major economy is failing at the same time cannot be ignored, this is not the norm (short term historically).

I'm watching, I see how the internet is undercutting a lot of the strategies (only via the unpredicted ability to share information and check the monolithic propaganda machines, of which the US is king) that have been (IMO) slowly building for decades; yet now the rapid advancement gives me hope.

meeradas
30th September 2022, 11:20
https://seapowermagazine.org/baltops-22-a-perfect-opportunity-for-research-and-resting-new-technology/

Tintin
30th September 2022, 12:07
Sorry, feeling a little impish today, but, a possible culprit might be.....

Greta Thunberg? ( :p )

:focus:

T Smith
30th September 2022, 12:28
This is consistent with the global reset and the program we are witnessing to cull the herd.



There it is. Rendered down to what this is and what it is all about.

In my view it's not who did it, but why it was done and what it will accomplish.

This is an escalation measure anyway you slice it. So we may not know what comes next, who will respond, or how the various State actors and false flag provocateurs will respond. But we do know whatever comes next will escalate the world into its Great Reset

wegge
30th September 2022, 12:45
This is consistent with the global reset and the program we are witnessing to cull the herd.



There it is. Rendered down to what this is and what it is all about.

In my view it's not who did it, but why it was done and what it will accomplish.

This is an escalation measure anyway you slice it. So we may not know what comes next, who will respond, or how the various State actors and false flag provocateurs will respond. But we do know whatever comes next will escalate the world into its Great Reset

well, it was already headlined in German BILD newspaper that this is a new level of warfare and other critical infrastructure might be under attack and governments are asked to check on their other infrastructure, like internet cables (=code for getting ready to blow it up?)

mizo
30th September 2022, 13:04
Maybe it's time to build my fallout bunker/shelter...

https://twitter.com/grayphil27/status/1575832629970350080

T Smith
30th September 2022, 15:11
This is consistent with the global reset and the program we are witnessing to cull the herd.



There it is. Rendered down to what this is and what it is all about.

In my view it's not who did it, but why it was done and what it will accomplish.

This is an escalation measure anyway you slice it. So we may not know what comes next, who will respond, or how the various State actors and false flag provocateurs will respond. But we do know whatever comes next will escalate the world into its Great Reset

well, it was already headlined in German BILD newspaper that this is a new level of warfare and other critical infrastructure might be under attack and governments are asked to check on their other infrastructure, like internet cables (=code for getting ready to blow it up?)

Right. So what happens when the Internet goes down and people can't get their money out of the bank, use their credit cards, etc. ? In my estimation, mass fear and panic. Which is the goal.

I'm not saying this is going happen, or will happen. Let's maintain some degree of faith that White Hat actors are doing what they can to prevent this type of escalation.

My main point, however, was fearful and panicked people are extremely easy to manipulate...

The Moss Trooper
30th September 2022, 16:53
Maybe it's time to build my fallout bunker/shelter...

https://twitter.com/grayphil27/status/1575832629970350080


As soon as I saw the reports of the Nord Stream 1 & 2 leaks, the first thing that I thought of was the British SBS, their regimental motto being, "Not by strength, by guile"

norman
30th September 2022, 17:04
Patrick Henningsen has a few things to add to the discussion about the pipeline incident, that I don't think have been included in the chatter so far.

Including the forced nationalisation of the German branch of GASPROM by the German government, on September 22nd.

Other pipelines all across the region from Germany to Eurasia can now be considered military targets. One other line has just been shut down, in the southern distribution system.

https://podbay.fm/p/uk-column-podcasts/e/1664545035?t=1524


I've tried ( for the first time ) to make this UK Column News podcast start at the exact spot where he begins his section. If it doesn't start at 25 mins 25 seconds, you'll have to move the time cursor there manually.

Jim_Duyer
30th September 2022, 19:19
There is some precedent for one nation damaging their own material goods in order to justify what they do next - whether an invasion or launching missiles. Who's to say that Putin did not do this himself? He may have some lagging support and think this will rally the troops so to speak.
But if we ask who has the most to gain by this act, that would be the Ukraine. And they might believe it is a good way to get the rest of the world on their side, or at least against Russia after it retaliates. They also have billions of freshly received dollars to hire it done - so that's two that might have done this.

If Biden did it , he probably won't remember it today.

Spiral
30th September 2022, 19:26
Yes sabotage is behind it, only the UK & US have anything to gain from this, it's an utterly disgusting attack on innocent civilians.

Anu Raman
1st October 2022, 04:42
Sometimes after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, UFOs dropped something in the black sea. It multiplied. It causes rust to accelerate and causes other things to accelerate. It spread all the way from the black sea to the baltic sea, through the rivers of countries, and underground water systems. It's even in the drinking water of those countries... These pipe lines are cement steel laden and tough... or are they? Explosive, too, if it's concentrated in certain areas... :silent:

Is it a response to their bio warfare crap? I don't know.

Just saying... :P

TargeT
1st October 2022, 05:31
Yes sabotage is behind it, only the UK & US have anything to gain from this, it's an utterly disgusting attack on innocent civilians.

so you have absolutely no opinion on how vastly poland would benefit from this? do you think life is completely binary?


Sometimes after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, UFOs dropped something in the black sea. It multiplied. It causes rust to accelerate and causes other things to accelerate. It spread all the way from the black sea to the baltic sea, through the rivers of countries, and underground water systems. It's even in the drinking water of those countries... These pipe lines are cement steel laden and tough... or are they? Explosive, too, if it's concentrated in certain areas... :silent:

Is it a response to their bio warfare crap? I don't know.

Just saying... :P

occam's razor?

No......... this , just; no.

Johnnycomelately
1st October 2022, 06:28
Hey T.

Poland is capable in some areas, like what their GROM does. They probably swim too, but would be bit players in these acts on account of the oversight and capabilities of the big players. Even if they were a pusher, it would be because they were told to.

And, not saying I agree with Anu’s suggestion, but Occham was either a fame loving fox or a dolt. His razzor was a child’s take on the complexities of life, tailored to the majority average simple people. It doesn’t work for UFOs or business, or women hehe, so not a good standard. Hey what else did that guy say?

TargeT
1st October 2022, 06:39
Even if they were a pusher, it would be because they were told to.

yes, but is this a new M.O. or just what 'we' always do; veiled with different context.

The human mind and it's tendencies were intimately known almost exclusively to the secret societies in recent history, but currently it is becoming widely known via the extreme exposure of the internet; even if not formally taught.

it seems the outcome is that the "old tricks" do not work as they used to, at least not for the vast majority.

we live in interesting times.

Spiral
1st October 2022, 07:48
Yes sabotage is behind it, only the UK & US have anything to gain from this, it's an utterly disgusting attack on innocent civilians.

so you have absolutely no opinion on how vastly poland would benefit from this? do you think life is completely binary?




Poland is the joker in the pack, but it's in the pack in Uncles Sams hand.

Hard to imagine how they would dare do something like this off their own backs, they have way too much to lose, considering that area had US & British assets there, plus under heavily surveillance by Russia, makes it even more unlikely.

Poland is under NATO, but they also don't want war with Russia, they are way too close, what they do want is their land back. The Ukraine being a made up "place" (administrative region of the USSR) it contains chunks of various countries & respective peoples, Poland want theirs back & they are in a very awkward position.

It would be better for Poland to sit back & watch Russia beat the Ukrainian army & then watch the country collapse, at which point come to an arrangement with Russia & move into their old territories.

Vangelo
1st October 2022, 11:01
Sometimes after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, UFOs dropped something in the black sea. ...

Please provide a source for this.
How do you know something was dropped? Did it float or sink?


... It multiplied. It causes rust to accelerate and causes other things to accelerate. It spread all the way from the black sea to the baltic sea, through the rivers of countries, and underground water systems. It's even in the drinking water of those countries...

Please be more specific, for instance, what multiplied? What spread from the Black sea to the Baltic Sea? When did this happen? is it still spreading? What rivers? What has been the impact?

ExomatrixTV
1st October 2022, 12:51
Colonel on Nordstream sabotage: 'At least it was not the Russians':

US President Joe Biden has dismissed Russian accusations that the West is behind the leakages of the two Nord Stream gas pipelines into the Baltic Sea as 'lies'.

“It was a deliberate act of sabotage and the Russians are pumping out misinformation and lies,” Biden said. Russia says it has evidence showing that the West played a role in the damage to Nord Stream 1 and 2.

In February this year, President Biden said the gas pipelines would be over if Russia invaded Ukraine.

https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/8/8/D/0/88D0f.caa.mp4


source (https://rumble.com/v1m4rp8-col.-doug-macgregor-does-not-believe-putin-bombed-his-own-nord-stream-pipel.html)



Let's be clear about that

According to US retired Colonel Doug MacGregor, Putin did not bomb his own pipelines. The leaks in the pipelines were caused by explosions equivalent to the force of hundreds of kilograms of TNT. Not many people can do such a thing, MacGregor said on The Charlie Kirk Show (https://rumble.com/v1m2bw4-the-nord-stream-truth-you-wont-hear-on-msm-with-colonel-douglas-macgregor.html).

"At least it wasn't the Russians," the colonel emphasized. "Let's be clear about that." He pointed out that the pipelines provide the Russians with a lot of income. "They wouldn't do such a thing."

According to MacGregor, the Germans could not have been responsible for the sabotage either. They are about to withdraw from this proxy war, the Colonel said. Who then remains? Great Britain, France, the United States and Poland.


Makes no sense

Many people point the finger of blame at the US. A former Polish minister wrote on Twitter: “Thank you, USA.”

MacGregor finds it "ridiculous" that the US government claims that the Russians have blown up their own pipelines. "That makes no sense."

The colonel pointed out that Putin has been very reluctant so far. “He has never deployed more than 20 percent of his ground forces to Ukraine at any time. And Russian troops have been outnumbered from the start.”


dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/kolonel-over-sabotage-nordstream-het-waren-in-ieder-geval-niet-de-russen) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

mountain_jim
1st October 2022, 14:56
Tom's take (a writer I never miss reading, though don't always agree with)
(For other views the ZH comments are interesting)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/luongo-curious-whodunit-nordstreams-1-2

https://tomluongo.me/2022/09/29/the-curious-whodunit-of-nordstreams-1-and-2/

POLITICS

The Curious Whodunit of Nordstreams 1 and 2

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Date: September 29, 2022
Author: Tom Luongo

The old world broke this week. It was blown up cynically by someone who thought this would advance their agenda the most.

The act of vandalizing a major piece of physical infrastructure, targeting civilian populations, isn’t unprecedented in history, but it does signal that everything we thought we knew about the rules of the current game was wrong.

Well, for most people anyway.

When I spoke in June at the Ron Paul Institute Conference on Foreign Policy I described the game of geopolitics as a seven-player game of the ancient Chinese game, Go.

And in that game we’ve reached an inflection point where some factions are coalescing and others are splintering. The faction that is unwilling to compromise on their future is the most dangerous one at the table.

My conclusion then was that those ‘who think they are entitled to run the world’ will flip the game board.

They will change the rules of the game without remorse or a case in the world for those they harm and the aftereffects of their actions. In fact, the chaos they engender is preferable to them than losing.

We got the first inkling of this when the West didn’t just freeze Russia’s foreign exchange reserves but seized them.

Now undersea assets in international waters are fair game. The good news it that this flipping of the game board was only a couple of gas pipelines. The potential is still for something far more unthinkable, not that that’s off the table.

In the immediate aftermath of proof the pipelines were blown up everyone (including myself) came forward with their theory as to who did it. Sadly, I can construct arguments for nearly every major player in the game having done this.

But understand the significance of this act. Another redline in international commerce and relations was crossed. The burning question is by whom?

We can rule out the most idiotic takes, like the Russians blew up the pipelines themselves. Why blow up an asset which is literally your biggest piece of leverage on this particular game board when you can do what Putin has already done, shut off the taps?

The only people putting forth this idea are frothing neocons who never met a global problem they couldn’t blame on Putin. Their arguments simply confirm what we already knew, they are jumping for joy at the news.

Many are reflexively pointing to statements by Joe Biden and Victoria Nuland about getting rid of the Nordstream 2 pipeline before the war in Ukraine broke out. But, so what? Why wait seven months to make good on that threat? And why also take out Nordstream 1 at the same time?

The argument is based on this idea that the US is now a rogue state fully controlled by neocons who see their opportunity to get their geopolitcial two-fer, going to war with Russia while also regaining dominance over a vassal Europe.

Indeed this is the prevailing sentiment across the whole of the anti-US alternative media. From Pepe Escobar to Bernard at Moon of Alabama the rush to put together the motive (Escobar) and the means (MoA) is quite compelling.

I, however, do not agree.

And the reasons are many. But it starts with the basic premise is that it is too easy.

Sure, the neocons wanted NS1 and NS2 removed from the game board. Neocons staff the lion’s share of important positions in the “Biden” National Security Council, his State Dept. and the Dept. of Defense. But the neoconservative axis doesn’t stop at the mouth of the Potomac. Their roots are deep within British Intelligence, Whitehall, City of London and yes, even Germany.

When you invoke the term neocon it is a very specific term for a very specific faction of people. They are rapacious, unwilling to compromise, indefatigable and embedded like ticks all across the Western political and intelligence infrastructure.

They are also incredibly easy to manipulate because all you have to do is give them a green light for mayhem and they will take it like a pit bull seeing a squealing rabbit.

So while Bernard did a fine job of laying out all of the circumstantial ‘facts’ of this case, he didn’t make a conclusion either. He’ll leave that job to his partner in Anti-US Empire leftism Escobar and the imaginations of so many rightfully disillusioned with the US.

They and other have made the case and all that has to be done now is allow the amplifier of social media and global anxiety to run wild. Spoon feeding people cynicism today is easy. Hating on the US is now fashionable.

The groundwork for this has been laid for months with Europe shooting itself in the foot repeatedly while allowing its sympathetic chorus to try and portray them as the victim of US aggression.

Personally, I think that conclusion is nonsense and have stuck to my guns for months saying both the EU and ‘The US’ want this war with Russia but for different reasons. In other words, no one is a victim of the other’s aggression, they both want the same thing, a divorce and/or war with Eurasian integration but who gets to be the decision makers in the end is what they are fighting over internally.

I’ve laid this out in so many blog posts, but this one from January (https://tomluongo.me/2022/01/05/russia-done-playing-politics-ukraine/) lays out all the arguments of the factions at play. While I was wrong about war in Ukraine being off the table, the interplay of the factions was still spot on.

The basic premise was always to use the neocons to destabilize the world over Ukraine, amplify the US/UK belligerence to the level of terrorist state, and portray Europe as the victim of whatever happened.

But once Putin invaded Ukraine everyone’s true motivations were exposed. Europe couldn’t back down and allow Russia to take Ukraine because Davos needed Ukraine to draw everyone into its vortex. The Minsk agreements were simply a time-buying device for everyone’s plans.

They all wanted this war with Russia but Putin chose the terms of the battle and the timing. To still think that Europe is a victim of US colonial ambitions betrays a naivete that borders on pathology.

And yet everyone fell for the silly Rand Corporation “Report (https://www.rand.org/news/press/2022/09/14.html)” from January that prepped the ground for blowing up the Nordstream pipelines conveniently ‘leaked’ into the world two weeks before the weekend everyone had circled on their geopolitical calendar as the most significant of the year.

Yeah, and you could pull my other leg, it plays “There’s a Sucker Born Every Minute. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_siQqiT48Tc)“

Make no mistake, I’m not about to absolve ‘The US’ of any malfeasance here. Some aspect of ‘The US’ was involved. To think otherwise is also terminally naïve. No, what I’m going to do is remind everyone of the motivations, incentives and deficiencies of the players in the West and give you what I think is the best answer we will ever get (and why) as to the curious whodunit of the demise of Nordstream.

I wrote a massive Twitter thread yesterday (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1575175591971602433.html) on this which I am going to list below along with some fill in commentary where appropriate. Original Tweets in Bold, Commentary in italics.


1. Just so we are clear. I believe and have believed the hyper-aggressive Neocons (or Straussians) are a faction easily manipulated into doing things that look like they are to their benefit but ultimately aren’t.

2. People this single-minded and radical can easily be directed like a missile at a particular target, especially if that target is their White Whale, i.e. Russia.

3. Davos is obsessed with preserving the EU and transferring that power to the UN for global government through the end of commercial banking and total surveillance.
This is incontrovertibly true. Their pushing hard for CBDCs to replace the current monetary system.

4. Getting the neocons to over-re
act to the current state of play in Ukraine by blowing up two vital pipelines to Europe is child’s play. You are goading them to do what they want to do anyway.
Screw Germany and Russia simultaneously.
Again, think Pit Bull and squealing bunny rabbit.

5. But the real win for them isn’t giving Germany no way to back down wrt Russia. It is to get Germany to see themselves as a victim of US colonialism.
Cue the RAND report. And the protests over energy costs in Germany over the weekend.
This leads to a critical mass of people seeing the US as the world’s leading cancer, deflecting from the real perps.
Given the state of the commentariat today, mission mostly accomplished. With the Fed pushing interest rates to the moon this will be even easier for people to believe.

6. That this is happening after the US got major wins in the UK and Italy electing Truss and Meloni while the Fed starves global markets of dollars, the source of Davos’ real strength … Eurodollar futures and shadow banking.
See my articles about Draghi’s fall from July (https://tomluongo.me/2022/09/10/the-queen-is-dead-but-is-the-uk/)and Truss’s rise from last week (https://tomluongo.me/2022/09/10/the-queen-is-dead-but-is-the-uk/). Joe Biden’s called Truss to threaten her over Northern Ireland before she even sat down at 10 Downing Street. Tell me again who “Biden” works for if not Davos?

7. In the short run, the neocons think they’ve won a big victory. In the long run, it seals Europe’s fate by crashing their markets so they can blame Russia and the US for their bankruptcy while defaulting and consolidating power in Brussels.
Blowing up NS1 and NS2 is a brilliant tactical move, it takes options from Putin and leaves him with more military than economic options. Why does anyone think the EU and Davos don’t benefit from this since this is what they actually wanted, prolonged war with Russia. Or am I misreading EU Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen, EU Foreign Minister Josep Borrell and NATO Sec. General Jens Stoltenberg? Curious. In the long run this is a terrible strategic move because it now puts everyone’s infrastructure on the table. Everything is fair game now.

8. France is happy to see this happen b/c bringing Germany down elevates them. Blackmailing the Italians is next on the flowchart… has to happen while Italy is in a gas deficit, i.e. Libya offline. France has been instrumental in cutting off Italy’s gas supply from N. Africa. There is no love loss between Italy and France. And EU sanctions keep Italy in gas deficit. With hostilities in Libya ending, gas will flow. So, destabilizing Italy’s financial markets now is paramount… or did no one see the blowout in BTP yields this week?


9. The Neocons are Straussian in their thinking. Better to burn down everything rather than lose. I don’t agree with all of this article, but the basics are sound.
Theirry Meyssan — voltairenet.org/article217976 (https://www.voltairenet.org/article217976.html).…
In short, the Neocons are not the only Straussians at this gaming table. Davos’ whole strategy is predicated on tearing down the old system, liquidating as many liabilities as possible (people, systems, debt, etc.) and then offering a new replacement at the depth of everyone’s despair.

10. Europe’s only solution, said many times by Soros, is to default by issuing perpetual debt, consols, and rolling up all the political power in Europe to the EU Commission and the ECB.
To do that you NEED a collapse of the German middle class.
With the ECB losing to the Fed over keeping rates low and going for MMT, 80% of the ECB’s balance sheet is at risk. The EU cannot function with a bankrupt ECB. The eurozone ceases to exist. President Lagarde is now losing control over internal bond spreads now that the BoE intervened.

11. But you also need a scapegoat to focus German anger on otherwise you lose them. So, bring in the hyper-aggressive Yanks and the hated Russians. Perfect patsies for this operation.
Turn Western Europe as anti-American as Eastern Europe is anti-Russian.
The neocons have walked willingly into this trap. Russia was given the option surrender or fight. They chose to fight.

12. Turning the US into a global terrorist state in the minds of everyone is an attempt, lame as it may be, to stop capital outflow while the reset of Europe’s finances occurs.
Only communists are so committed ideologically to their cause that they would threaten the world with nuclear blackmail in order to overthrow the only bastion of legal human rights superior to that of the State’s left in the world. I hate to break it to America’s haters but us getting our **** together is the world’s only real hope. It’s a thin hope, I realize. But the world is not made better by turning the US into a failed state like the same people I’m fingering today did to Russia after the USSR fell. But when you cheer on us Yanks ‘gettin’ what we deserve’ and apologizing for the crimes of Europe, you are cheering your own destruction.

13. Hence, the US neocons likely blew up NS1 and NS2 but under the ‘guidance’ of Davos from within the “Biden” Junta.
This is the nuanced take. Davos had the motive, means and opportunity to pull this off. So far, I’ve only presented why the neocons would have done this. Now, here’s why Davos is the real culprit.

14. This was an act of war. No doubt. The UK and France have been trying to get NATO officially into a war with Russia since it moved into Syria… Remember the IL-20 ELINT shootdown?
That was a French/UK op. that everyone else covered up.
September 2018 a Russian ELINT plane is shot down over Syria (https://tomluongo.me/2018/09/19/decoding-putin-attack-syria/). The official explanation is a complete fabrication. Reports of a missile fired from a French frigate offshore are memory-holed. Israel and Syria take the blame for the screw up which could have led to a NATO Article 5 if the Russians retaliated.
We will simply not get the full story on this like we never got the real story about MH-17. But if Russia doesn’t respond overtly and whatever they do in parallel response “The US” doesn’t respond to then back channels have been working to stop any further insanity. The relative silence from everyone tells me a third party ordered this and the primary victim/alleged aggressor are trying to hold things at bay.

15. This pipeline explosion smells of a similar setup.. The goal? Same as always. Get Russia to over-react, weaken Putin at home for being soft.
Set the US and Russia on a path to open, not proxy, war.


16. The same strategy is being employed with China/Taiwan. Reckless provocations to weaken Xi and get China to over-react to save face with the domestic population.
Or did we miss the endless reckless provocations with China over the past 20 months?
17. Why? Because if these folks are all fighting while Europe hunkers down and ‘rebuilds’ itself, then they are all weakened through war and relatively speaking the EU comes out of that coma to a more-level playing field.
This point has been routinely misunderstood. This is a long-range projection of what the ultimate goal is. By the end of the decade Europe wants to be free of Russian energy, transitioned to a hydrogen/nuclear economy with digital money, no debt and a surveillance state it can leverage around the world. They want the same thing for the US and the UK Commonwealth, but the jury is definitely out as to whether they will achieve those goals in those places… that the third US faction I keep talking about, the NY Boys and the Fed, saying no to all of this.

18. This is the plan. It’s stupid. It’s insane. But it’s clearly what’s on the table.
The leaked RAND Report everyone was so hot and bothered about was pure psy-op to set up this latest atrocity.
Even RAND was like. Okay, this is some serious Bellingcat/MI6 bullcrap.

19. If you think this is far-fetched:
Who directed everyone to lock down the world over a freaking flu?
Who tried to bankrupt you for not getting the jab?
Who is pushing for UBI, MMT and you owning nothing?
It ain’t the Neocons and it ain’t Russia. And it ain’t the Fed either.

20. There are clearly forces resisting this insanity but it’s not clear as to whether they are winning or not. What is clear is that most people are done with globalists, but which globalists?

21. This now opens up the possibility of the East Med Pipeline from Israel to Greece, which “Biden” took off the table earlier this year. Why? Davos wants us off oil and gas.
Meaning, why did “Biden” pull the funding plug off of East Med? Because Davos told him no new pipelines into Europe. Davos also hates Israel, being a US/UK satellite. Realize that once you see the enmity between the Continent of European Colonial Powers and the UK/US and the former Warsaw Pact countries, you can’t unsee it. But, please continue to think it’s all just “one big club… and we ain’t in it.”

22. The bombing of NS1 and NS2 is as significant a red line being crossed as seizing Russia’s forex reserves. Both assets were considered ‘verboten.’
Not any more. Who ordered that? Davos.|
Who went along with that? The EU
Who’s putting more sanctions on Russia today? The EU
How can anyone seriously look at the last seven months and see the EU as a victim of US imperialism without seeing the imperial aspirations of the EU itself? I’m not saying anyone isn’t dirty here. They are all filthy and disgusting. But I am saying know what the real game is and what the real motivations are.
Because if you do that work you just might see some things that don’t comport with the simple view which fuels your anger and frustration, which, in the end, is just childish. The stakes are too high here.
FYI, the EU just put on an EIGHTH package of sanctions on Russia over the referenda in the now former territories of Ukraine. No outrage over the loss of NS1 and NS2. No furious statements about the heinous and cowardly attacks on public infrastructure serving the needs of real Europeans. No pearl clutching or hand wringing even over the immense amount of greenhouse gases being blown into the atmosphere. Just more vilification of the victim and nigh-endorsement of this act of terrorism.
But, please, keep believing Europe is the victim of US aggression and not the complicity of your own leadership.

23. The point of this act was to freeze all pipeline construction worldwide.
If these assets are on the table, then nothing is off the table.
Do you really think it’s far-fetched to false flag something like this to achieve global dreams of control?
Who has those dreams?
If you look at this dispassionately, you know who and that’s why you know who ordered it, regardless of whose military operators put the bombs on the pipes.


I can’t stress enough folks that we are in very perilous waters here. I’m no US apologist. This country has crimes it will have to answer for. And the biggest one may be allowing this globalist assholes to corrupt it nearly beyond repair. But don’t let that blind you to what’s really happening.

The important thing I keep trying to point out that thinking in terms of ‘country’ is ultimately the wrong lens to view these people’s actions. Factions are the better lens. Factions cross political borders.

Only when we’re talking about the people and elections do countries matter here and how they interact with these factions.

I’ll leave you with that and echo Bernard at MoA…. now draw your own conclusions.

norman
1st October 2022, 15:06
Ukrainian Navy divers receive training on unmanned underwater vehicles

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UKRAINIAN NAVY DIVERS RECEIVE TRAINING ON UNMANNED UNDERWATER VEHICLES Ukrainian Navy divers took part in classroom and practical training with Unmanned Underwater Vehicles (UUV) provided by the Royal Navy.

Source: UK MOD
Photographer:
LPhot Belinda Alker




On the same day as the explosion(s) a new pipeline opened between Norway and Poland.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/09/27/baltic-pipe-norway-poland-gas-pipeline-opens-in-key-move-to-cut-dependency-on-russia



Was it Poland ?

http://johnhelmer.net/the-bornholm-blow-up-repeats-the-bornholm-bash-poland-attacks-germany-and-blames-russia/

Anu Raman
1st October 2022, 16:45
Yes sabotage is behind it, only the UK & US have anything to gain from this, it's an utterly disgusting attack on innocent civilians.

so you have absolutely no opinion on how vastly poland would benefit from this? do you think life is completely binary?


Sometimes after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, UFOs dropped something in the black sea. It multiplied. It causes rust to accelerate and causes other things to accelerate. It spread all the way from the black sea to the baltic sea, through the rivers of countries, and underground water systems. It's even in the drinking water of those countries... These pipe lines are cement steel laden and tough... or are they? Explosive, too, if it's concentrated in certain areas... :silent:

Is it a response to their bio warfare crap? I don't know.

Just saying... :P

occam's razor?

No......... this , just; no.

really? HMMM...

These guys are still hanging around, no? It looks like to me, that they want you to blame each other, so you can nuke yourselves.. lol. I am just saying, that we shouldn't discount UFOs...For all we know, maybe they blew up the pipelines!

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Anu Raman
1st October 2022, 19:13
I mean.. come on.. you gotta have at least 1,100 lbs of TNT to blow that pipe, to even register on the seismographs as a 2.0 earthquake. Think about it.

Plus on top of all that.. "Where's the fire" ?? Surely an detonation of that kind, would produce fire, would it not?

(sorry for the double post, but I had to put it out there)

Spiral
1st October 2022, 20:19
I mean.. come on.. you gotta have at least 1,100 lbs of TNT to blow that pipe, to even register on the seismographs as a 2.0 earthquake. Think about it.

Plus on top of all that.. "Where's the fire" ?? Surely an detonation of that kind, would produce fire, would it not?

(sorry for the double post, but I had to put it out there)

Nope because no where near that amount of explosive as already mentioned, plus a fire from over 100 meters underwater ? Seriously ? Where is the oxygen coming from lol.

You are just trolling aren't you ?

TomKat
1st October 2022, 20:50
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ExomatrixTV
1st October 2022, 20:59
Nordstream Pipeline sabotage confirmed through seismology - Chris Sanders has interesting evidence and a smoking gun

The Smoking Gun on the Nordstream Pipeline sabotage confirmed (https://www.facebook.com/AmericanNewsNet/videos/1586364735154264/) through evidence and seismology by Chris Sanders at the American News Network (https://www.facebook.com/AmericanNewsNet)

Anu Raman
1st October 2022, 23:47
I mean.. come on.. you gotta have at least 1,100 lbs of TNT to blow that pipe, to even register on the seismographs as a 2.0 earthquake. Think about it.

Plus on top of all that.. "Where's the fire" ?? Surely an detonation of that kind, would produce fire, would it not?

(sorry for the double post, but I had to put it out there)

Nope because no where near that amount of explosive as already mentioned, plus a fire from over 100 meters underwater ? Seriously ? Where is the oxygen coming from lol.

You are just trolling aren't you ?


Well.. wouldn't it be cool if a lightning bolt happen to hit the surface of the gas? :O ...

Which is bad/worse ?..gas escaping into the environment or burning it off?

onawah
2nd October 2022, 00:02
As if!
As if TNT was the only weapon that could be used. We still don't know what all comprises the arsenal TPTB have at their disposal.




I mean.. come on.. you gotta have at least 1,100 lbs of TNT to blow that pipe, to even register on the seismographs as a 2.0 earthquake. Think about it.

Plus on top of all that.. "Where's the fire" ?? Surely an detonation of that kind, would produce fire, would it not?

(sorry for the double post, but I had to put it out there)

Nope because no where near that amount of explosive as already mentioned, plus a fire from over 100 meters underwater ? Seriously ? Where is the oxygen coming from lol.

You are just trolling aren't you ?


Well.. wouldn't it be cool if a lightning bolt happen to hit the surface of the gas? :O ...

Which is bad/worse ?..gas escaping into the environment or burning it off?

Hym
2nd October 2022, 00:38
Nordstream Pipeline sabotage confirmed through seismology - Chris Sanders has interesting evidence and a smoking gun

The Smoking Gun on the Nordstream Pipeline sabotage confirmed (https://www.facebook.com/AmericanNewsNet/videos/1586364735154264/) through evidence and seismology by Chris Sanders at the American News Network (https://www.facebook.com/AmericanNewsNet)


John, would you please synopsize the articles for those of us who have never, nor will ever, use Facebook?

Thanx, Hymn

Anu Raman
2nd October 2022, 00:43
As if!
As if TNT was the only weapon that could be used. We still don't know what all comprises the arsenal TPTB have at their disposal.




I mean.. come on.. you gotta have at least 1,100 lbs of TNT to blow that pipe, to even register on the seismographs as a 2.0 earthquake. Think about it.

Plus on top of all that.. "Where's the fire" ?? Surely an detonation of that kind, would produce fire, would it not?

(sorry for the double post, but I had to put it out there)

Nope because no where near that amount of explosive as already mentioned, plus a fire from over 100 meters underwater ? Seriously ? Where is the oxygen coming from lol.

You are just trolling aren't you ?


Well.. wouldn't it be cool if a lightning bolt happen to hit the surface of the gas? :O ...

Which is bad/worse ?..gas escaping into the environment or burning it off?

Ahh seems like it's over!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nord-stream-2-pipeline-leak-stopped-baltic-sea-danish-energy-agency-says/

Satori
2nd October 2022, 00:55
Hmmm. If there really were leaks or a leak it is not likely that the leak(s) stopped by themselves. So,

There was no leak(s), or

The leak(s) was repaired (permanently or temporarily), or

They shut off the flow of gas, or

This article is wrong, or,

........?

Anu Raman
2nd October 2022, 01:13
I think Russia had it turned off for a while, just that the remaining gas leaked out... and finally stopped. NS1 or NS2 or both.. I dont know

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-shuts-off-nord-stream-213253802.html

Johnnycomelately
2nd October 2022, 02:39
I think that’s it. The cbsNews article is totes bare bones.

The pressure is probably the water column, measured down from the sea surface, of the flooded pipe at wherever that equals the pressure of the remaining confined gas (as the pipe must be closed at both ends). An uphill gradient back towards the pressure-meter would stop the water flow, the depth below surface where it stopped gives the ‘head’. I wonder if there are pressure meters at both ends, and if so then what could be learned from that — so far, we have only heard from the supply end.

The crime scene should provide clear evidence of what took place there, if parties other than the perpetrator are permitted to investigate.

Keeping that last thought in mind, I think it’s unlikely that the breach was caused by a device within the pipe (which surely could be done), on account of damning ‘fingerprints’.

I feel like an ogre for enjoying all the talk about this aspect of this current Big Mess. Oof.




I think Russia had it turned off for a while, just that the remaining gas leaked out... and finally stopped. NS1 or NS2 or both.. I dont know

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-shuts-off-nord-stream-213253802.html

Anu Raman
2nd October 2022, 02:43
Well.. it would have to be a very powerful device in order to penetrate that cement laden pipe... hmm.. This is why I assumed earlier that at least 1100 lbs of TNT would have to be used.. because that pipe, if you look at manufacturing specs, it's that tough.. but again, it could be something very tiny, but has equal strength.. don't know, really.. need to examine for evidence.

Johnnycomelately
2nd October 2022, 03:17
Did you pull that number (1,100#) out of your ‘hat’? Haha, no matter. 8)

Depending on the pressure they maintained in that enclosure, the sudden release of it may have contributed to the seismic signal which iiuc you are basing your estimate on. I am not a petrochemical-head, so have no idea even what or why is that pressure.


Well.. it would have to be a very powerful device in order to penetrate that cement laden pipe... hmm.. This is why I assumed earlier that at least 1100 lbs of TNT would have to be used.. because that pipe, if you look at manufacturing specs, it's that tough.. but again, it could be something very tiny, but has equal strength.. don't know, really.. need to examine for evidence.

Anu Raman
2nd October 2022, 16:41
yea, had to assume... because the specifications of the pipe are so tough. Could be more or less though.

They keep saying "sabotage" but yet they're not actually looking at other possibilities..

Spiral
3rd October 2022, 17:07
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ExomatrixTV
3rd October 2022, 20:20
The Nord Stream Pipeline False Flag Is A War on Germany 🇩🇪 (Not Ukraine) What You NEED To Know!

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The Nord Stream Pipeline which connects Russia to the EU via Germany has been sabotaged and when asking the question cui bono, the only logical outcome is NATO along with its allies like the US, Poland, Britain, the Danish and the Swedish militaries. Putin could have turned the taps off if he wanted to but that would imply Moscow losing key strategic leverage over the EU, which wouldn’t make any sense!! In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth cuts through the propaganda and debunks the narrative that this was a false flag operation carried out by Putin, while proving that NATO and its allies are the only ones who are benefiting from cutting energy ties between Russia and the EU and it’s all happening at the expense of the German people!

An anonymous source within the US intelligence community has leaked knowledge of an apparent plan by the Russians to launch a false flag attack that is to be blamed on Ukraine as a pretext to justify an invasion of Ukraine as over 100,000 Russian troops gather along the border. Meanwhile a cyber attack has been launch on Ukraine with blame already being pointed at the Russians even though they themselves just took down a group of the cyber hacking criminals known as REvil. In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth explains that the real false flag here is the notion that the Russians are going to carry out a false flag and it’s all being perpetuated by NATO and the Biden administration in an effort to gain more control both over the region and also at home!


source (https://pressfortruth.ca/breaking-talk-of-a-russian-false-flag-on-ukraine-is-actually-a-false-flag-on-russia/)

https://www.moonofalabama.org/14i/nsdamage2.jpg (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/whodunnit-facts-related-to-the-sabotage-attack-on-the-nord-stream-pipelines.html)


source (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/whodunnit-facts-related-to-the-sabotage-attack-on-the-nord-stream-pipelines.html)
Escobar: Who Profits From Pipeline Terror? (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-who-profits-pipeline-terror)

norman
4th October 2022, 02:42
Who Pulled the Trigger on Nord Stream?

Translation of Video below starting at 13;40

“a ‘masked’ Navy Sub Hunter is first detected coming in from the west. He may have had his transponder off at that time and is incorporated with a ‘rolling hex code’ which allows pilot to change his identity so it is not easily tracked. The plane first flies over the Nord Stream location and then meets up on a refueling cycle which is completed at about 25,000 feet..then the Navy Sub Hunter returns to the NS location and descends to about 10,800 feet and remains there from about 2:30 am until about 4:30 am. The plane is also referred to as a P8 Poseiden ‘masked’ military/navy aircraft. At approximately 4:30 am, the Navy plane continues west. I have not had a chance to check what type of aircraft might be part of the USS Kearsarge which was also in the Baltic Sea area at the time….”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfpw9I01J0o&t=820s


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Johnnycomelately
4th October 2022, 08:55
Here is an interesting possible answer regarding the charge. Please see 25: plus a few minutes, about a US PA-8 flight near the crime scene within about an hour of the event, which plane-type is supposedly currently being tested to carry an air-drop-kitted Mk-48 torpedo. The wiki says nothing about the charge, but says it is designed to break the keel of capital ships.

Those torps have a passive sonar mode, besides an active one, so my idea is that the prior ‘exersise’ activity in the area was to place sonar emiting place-markers. Seems to me, this would be more sure-fire than filtering active pings against the seabed clutter. Such a marker could be turned on by active pings from the ‘fish’, which could certainly lurk/rest for a while first so that the plane was long gone. Morbid rabbit hole.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_48_torpedo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEOVoP-NMcA


yea, had to assume... because the specifications of the pipe are so tough. Could be more or less though.

They keep saying "sabotage" but yet they're not actually looking at other possibilities..

justntime2learn
5th October 2022, 22:44
I can here it already and may sound something like this. Russia will be excluded as they are the accused, so we wouldn't want tampering of a thorough investigation.

To me it's looking less and less like Russia.

Moscow speaks out on Nord Stream blasts probe
Russian involvement in any investigation into causes of the Nord Stream incident must be “mandatory,” the Kremlin insists

https://cdni.russiatoday.com/files/2022.10/l/633de1c42030275eb4560f48.jpg



Russia is “concerned” about suggestions that it should somehow be excluded from any investigation into the ruptures of the Nord Stream pipelines, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Wednesday.

“So far, from those press conferences that took place in Denmark and Sweden, we have heard quite concerning statements that any cooperation with the Russian side is excluded,” he told reporters.

“We, of course, will wait for some clarifications on this matter; we believe that the participation of the Russian side in the examination of the damaged parts [of the pipelines] and in the probe into what happened, must be mandatory,” the spokesman added.

Peskov’s remarks appear to have come in response to statements by Danish Foreign Minister Jeppe Kofod, who has announced his government’s intention to oppose Russia’s participation in the investigation and the possible identification of those responsible. Moscow maintains an international probe – with its participation – must be carried out.

The Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines abruptly lost pressure last Monday, following a series of powerful underwater explosions off the Danish island of Bornholm. The incident caused massive gas leaks, with large volumes of it entering the sea. The ruptures are widely considered to be the result of sabotage, carried out by an unknown party.

Moscow has squarely branded the incident a terrorist attack, while President Vladimir Putin blamed the explosions on “the Anglo-Saxons,” a Russian colloquialism for the US-UK transatlantic alliance. Washington, for its part, has openly cheered the incident, with Secretary of State Antony Blinken hailing it as a “tremendous opportunity” for Europe “to once and for all remove the dependence on Russian energy.”

Link: https://www.rt.com/russia/564129-nord-stream-leaks-probe/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Email

TargeT
5th October 2022, 23:07
To me it's looking less and less like Russia.


Seems like if we look to the past (and not even that far) (https://www.dw.com/en/nord-stream-2-who-wins-who-loses/a-60223801) all of this was basically outlined....

Cui bono?

Not russia... I can't believe something (apparently) this brazen still happens today... maybe its because even though the coverup is sloppy, nothing ever comes of it... there are no consequences.

justntime2learn
5th October 2022, 23:52
To me it's looking less and less like Russia.


Seems like if we look to the past (and not even that far) (https://www.dw.com/en/nord-stream-2-who-wins-who-loses/a-60223801) all of this was basically outlined....

Cui bono?

Not russia... I can't believe something (apparently) this brazen still happens today... maybe its because even though the coverup is sloppy, nothing ever comes of it... there are no consequences.

Well now you post it, lol

That makes a lot of sense.

At least I know enough to know that I don't know, rofl

Vicus
6th October 2022, 20:11
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TargeT
6th October 2022, 22:40
interesting interview....

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gini
6th October 2022, 22:56
Nord Stream 2 Pipeline Isn’t Disabled ! wQCpzrE9zMUJmmy dore --7/10/22--14 min

Vicus
7th October 2022, 19:36
Russia ready to send gas to EU via Nord Stream 2 — Minister
Supplies are possible through the undamaged string of the pipeline, according to Aleksander Novak

Russia is able to supply gas to the European Union through a string of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that that was not damaged by the recent sabotage, Deputy Prime Minister Aleksander Novak has told RIA Novosti.

The former energy minister described the attempts to destroy Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 as deliberate.

“Unfortunately, due to sabotage, one string [of Nord Stream 2] was damaged, and an examination is required to make further decisions on the fate of the string,” Novak explained.

“As for the second string, it is ready, fully built, and if the necessary legal decisions are made by our European colleagues regarding the certification and removal of restrictions, I think Russia could provide appropriate supplies through this string of the gas pipeline in a short time,” he said.

The Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines abruptly lost pressure on September 26, following a series of powerful underwater explosions off the Danish island of Bornholm. The incident caused massive gas leaks, with large volumes entering the sea. The ruptures are widely considered to be the result of sabotage, carried out by an unknown party.


The deputy premier also said that neither the operator of the Nord Stream project, nor Gazprom or industrial regulator Rostekhnadzor, were allowed to investigate the incidents on the pipelines, adding that an objective probe requires the participation of Russian professionals.

Earlier this week, the operators of the two gas pipelines said they were unable to inspect the damaged sections because of restrictions imposed by the Danish and Swedish authorities.

Nord Stream 2 AG, the Switzerland-based operator, said on Tuesday it would examine the condition of the leaking pipelines once a police investigation of the “crime scene” is completed and a cordon is lifted. Later Nord Stream AG, operator of the older Nord Stream 1 pipeline, said it had been told by Danish authorities that receiving the necessary permits to carry out an inspection could take over 20 working days.

Meanwhile, unnamed sources told CNN that Washington is considering offering to use its most advanced underwater sound reading capabilities to analyse audio recordings from around the time of the Nord Stream gas pipelines’ apparent sabotage.

Russia earlier called rupturing of the pipelines a terrorist attack. While those behind it have not yet been identified, Moscow has suggested the US was to blame.

https://www.rt.com/business/564148-novak-nord-stream-supplies-europe/

norman
7th October 2022, 20:44
Nord Stream 2 AG, the Switzerland-based operator,



Nord Stream AG [ AG is the Swiss form of Inc or Ltd ]

Who We Are


Nord Stream AG, based in Zug, Switzerland, is an international consortium of five major companies established in 2005 for the planning, construction and subsequent operation of two 1,224-kilometre natural gas pipelines through the Baltic Sea.

The five shareholders of the Nord Stream consortium are Gazprom international projects LLC (PJSC Gazprom (http://www.gazprom.com) subsidiary), Wintershall Dea AG (https://wintershalldea.com/en) (formerly Wintershall Holding GmbH), PEG Infrastruktur AG (http://www.eon.com/en.html) (E.ON), N.V. Nederlandse Gasunie (http://www.gasunie.nl/) and ENGIE (http://www.engie.com/). Gazprom international projects LLC holds a 51 percent stake in the pipeline project.

Leading German energy companies Wintershall Dea AG and PEGI/E.ON hold 15.5 percent each, and the Dutch natural gas infrastructure company N.V. Nederlandse Gasunie, along with the leading French energy provider ENGIE, each hold a 9 percent stake. The combined experience of these companies ensures the best technology, safety and corporate governance for the Nord Stream project, which aims to provide a secure energy supply for Europe.

The twin pipelines, which have been operational since 2011 and 2012 respectively, have the capacity to transport a combined total of about 55 bcm of gas a year – that's enough to satisfy the energy demand of more than 26 million European households. Nord Stream has designed the pipelines to operate for at least 50 years.

Total investment in the pipeline system was 7.4 billion euros. This financing stemmed partly from Nord Stream's shareholders, which provided 30 percent of the project costs through equity contributions proportionate to their shares in the joint venture. Some 70 percent was financed externally by means of project financing from banks and export credit agencies.


https://www.nord-stream.com/about-us/

justntime2learn
9th October 2022, 14:33
Never mind, lol

Brigantia
10th October 2022, 17:28
Bushcraft Bear has posted that the island of Bornholm that has about 40,000 residents was without electricity from 8am this morning, with power restored to about a third of residents at 9.35am, due to damage to an underwater cable.

He also discussed damage to the Deutsche Bahn, Germany's railway system due to severed cables on 8 October, and smaller communities in Germany preparing for a blackout.

Video is 3:19 minutes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rPusc5U82I

justntime2learn
11th October 2022, 04:08
Gazprom just released these photos of a NATO Seafox drone that was found right next to Nord Stream 1 in 2015. The drone failed to detonate. NATO was caught red-handed and claimed the drone was lost during exercises. They tried it before. Go figure.

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https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1579608838118191105

TargeT
11th October 2022, 04:23
Drones do not have a cable attached like that; that alone makes me highly question this. (the pictures at least)

Do not think we are not DEEP into an information war, we are...

why does the first screen shot have control data out puts and also, why is there a date on the screen that seems to indicate 06/11 (2011?) 2011 is when the pipeline was initiated... so that probably was an inspection devise...

I dunno, this seems like bs to me... and obvious BS at that.




I suggest watching this entire video, but this link ( https://youtu.be/P6zWLu29Z8I?t=1555 ) will show you a hilarious reaction that is ,... uh... very telling

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to me this is much better than the "red herring" drone theory from the links above...but still, it's very important to see how this is playing out; and I think we are seeing it very clearly right here.

Gwin Ru
14th October 2022, 15:58
...

... from Jim Stone:

SWEDEN DISCOVERED AN ALLY DID NORD STREAM
(http://www.jimstone.is/1/.tj7.html)
and it was not just a hole, long stretches of the pipeline are no longer present.

(https://www.rt.com/russia/564660-musk-ukraine-starlink-melnik/)Sweden is so worried other allies will say who did it that Germany and Denmark have been blocked from helping in the investigation. that means one of two things. 1. The United States. 2. Israel. they certainly would not be shutting other countries out if Haiti did it. Sweden was going to have Germany and Denmark join the investigation until an easy and inconvenient answer was found, which caused them to declare a "security classification too high to share" with allies..

Der Spiegel had this:

"Contrary to plans, Sweden, Denmark and Germany will not form a joint investigation team to investigate the leaks from the Nord Stream pipelines. According to SPIEGEL information, Sweden rejected the establishment of an international "Joint Investigation Team" (JIT). According to information from security circles, Sweden is said to have justified its refusal on the grounds that the security classification of its investigation results was too high to share them with other states.

Translation: an ally of Sweden did it and Sweden is shutting up until the tail can be put on the "right" donkey, IF it can be put on one at all. and it is SO BAD that other allies can't even know.

This has gotten so bad that Sweden seized the evidence they found on the seabed and shut up:

"Shortly after the sabotage at the end of September, the German government decided that German investigators should participate in the investigation. Last week, the federal police and the Bundeswehr sent two military boats to one of the damage sites. A "Sea Cat" underwater drone was launched there. Sweden had previously inspected the scene southeast of the Baltic island and also seized evidence on the seabed.

No comment was initially available from the Swedish side. The security service referred to the Ministry of Justice. The Ministry of Justice referred to the security service. In Berlin it was said to the Swedish refusal, one hopes nevertheless for a co-operation with authorities there.

The German investigators should now first evaluate the images of the "Sea Cat" underwater drone. A larger crater, indicating a massive explosion, is said to be visible on it. In addition, the pipeline is said to be completely disrupted over a longer length, possibly because the current washed away parts of the pipe after the sabotage action.

So far there are only speculations about those behind the sabotage action. The only thing that is clear is that on September 26 there were several massive explosions under water near the course of the two Nord Stream pipelines. The detonations were so violent that several institutes that normally monitor earthquakes registered significant seismic swings. According to an initial analysis, the German authorities believe that an explosive force comparable to 500 kilograms of TNT was required."

(https://www.rt.com/russia/564660-musk-ukraine-starlink-melnik/)This is a hot potato, so I captured the report to prevent it from vanishing.

(https://www.rt.com/russia/564660-musk-ukraine-starlink-melnik/)
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Kryztian
18th October 2022, 22:38
Germany says that they know who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. But, "for reasons of national security", they aren't going to tell.

Just a few of the excellent points made by Alexander Mercouris here:



This means it clearly was not Russia that blew it up (as if that idea ever made any sense at all :wacko2:)


The big winner in the pipeline situation will be Turkey :cash: . Now Europe will pay retail for gas from Turkey (which could be Russian, Azerbajani or other, who knows) instead of getting it wholesale directly from Russia.


Germany is not a democracy any longer. Any many other NATO countries too. Politicians have been brought and paid for by secret interests.



65saUjbbNLM

ExomatrixTV
19th October 2022, 18:18
Sweden Finally REVEALS Who DESTROYED the Nord Stream Pipelines!:

LOT9fkfel-Y


Nord Stream pipeline damage captured in underwater footage – video (https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/oct/18/nord-stream-pipeline-damage-captured-in-underwater-footage-video)

Kryztian
19th October 2022, 19:35
Sweden Finally REVEALS Who DESTROYED the Nord Stream Pipelines!:

LOT9fkfel-Y


Since John obviously has not had the opportunity to read the thread How should members most helpfully share videos? (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119633-How-should-members-most-helpfully-share-videos), I will bullet point the video so you don't have to waste 7 minutes and 46 seconds on this video:


Sweden absolutely does NOT reveal anything new about who blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline


If you have been following this story, nothing new is revealed in the video


But if you want to get a discount on My Pillow, there are special discount codes revealed here. Also, lots of appeals to subscribed to his channel so you can get more misleading clickbait headlines in your youtube feed.

:facepalm:

ExomatrixTV
19th October 2022, 20:36
Sweden Finally REVEALS Who DESTROYED the Nord Stream Pipelines!:


LOT9fkfel-Y


Since John obviously has not had the opportunity to read the thread How should members most helpfully share videos? (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119633-How-should-members-most-helpfully-share-videos), I will bullet point the video so you don't have to waste 7 minutes and 46 seconds on this video:


Sweden absolutely does NOT reveal anything new about who blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline
If you have been following this story, nothing new is revealed in the video
But if you want to get a discount on My Pillow, there are special discount codes revealed here. Also, lots of appeals to subscribed to his channel so you can get more misleading clickbait headlines in your youtube feed.


:facepalm:


What I remembered him saying is, that by NOT sharing any evidence (but at the same time claiming they possesses the evidence but refuse to share it) is actually evidence that Russia was not behind it ... because >> if ... again: IF the evidence is pointing at Russia being responsible >>> Sweden 🇸🇪 (as a new Nato member (https://www.government.se/government-policy/sweden-and-nato/swedens-road-to-nato/)) would gladly show the evidence to the rest of the world ... but they did not!


So what Sweden 🇸🇪 did actually reveal .. is that they have the evidence but refuse to share it to the rest of the world ... not even to the Danish ... Why?
Just maybe Nato told (or demanded) Sweden 🇸🇪 to hide the truth?

"Geo-Psychological Warfare" ???

And indeed I should have shared this additional intel/insight ... I was about to do that but I got unexpected visitors at my home ... so sorry for not following the Project Avalon guidelines fast enough!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳


ps. anyone who claims or thinks or assumes or insinuates I suppose to share videos without watching it first, I would say to them: challenge me any time! ... As I can recall most by memory being an Asperger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome) ;)

Kryztian
20th October 2022, 03:32
What I remembered him saying is, that by NOT sharing any evidence (but at the same time claiming they posses evidence but refuse to share it) is actually evidence that Russia was not behind it ... because >> if ... again: IF the evidence is pointing at Russia being responsible >>> Sweden (as a new Nato member) would gladly show the evidence to the rest of the world ... but they did not!


Okay, from this John, it is apparent that you did watch this video, that's good to know :sun:! Yes, he did make an attempt to justify his clickbait title, but it was pathetic, illogical, and clearly an attempt to just get clicks and kickbacks from the my pillow guy.

Steve Turley defies the laws of language and logic to make outrageous claims. Let's break that down.







The title: Sweden Finally REVEALS Who DESTROYED the Nord Stream Pipelines!!!

The first statement in the video: "Sweden just revealed who destroyed the Nord Stream Pipe line."

The word to look at in the title is "Finally" and in the "Just" in the statement. To say "just revealed" and "finally revealed" clearly mean that at some point Sweden, or the spokespeople of the government, made a revelation, a statement, that was awaited. So Sweden did say they knew who caused the sabotage of the Nord Stream, but they would not reveal it because of reasons of "national security." From reading the words "finally" and "just", one would logically assume Sweden made another statement since that time. But they didn't.

So then Turley tries to make the inference that Sweden's continued silence indicates that there is a certain perpetrator behind the sabotage. While one could make an argument that the silence of a speaker might have certain inferences or implication, Turley doesn't really explain how in any meaningful or logical way why Sweden's silence implicates any individuals or groups. Also, the words "just" and "finally" indicate that something happened at a definite instance of time since Sweden made their initial statement. But nothing ever happened.

The other misleading word in both the video title is "Who". Turley claims he is going to tell us who destroyed the pipeline. He never does. Even though the title claims he is going to tell us "who".


so sorry for not following the Project Avalon guidelines fast enough!


I don't think there are any absolute guidelines here, just ideas. And from what you said now, I think now the problem here is more with how Turley presented it than what you said about it, so I apoligize if I had implied otherwise.

But, one new suggestion (which I should probably add to the other thread) is that when you are posting, it isn't always clear what personalities are in the video. Sometimes the video image or title tells you, but often times not. I know now if I see the name "Steve Turley" in the description to avoid it for the steaming mess of bull excrement clickbait that it is. :sun:

DeDukshyn
20th October 2022, 04:03
Drones do not have a cable attached like that; that alone makes me highly question this. (the pictures at least)

Do not think we are not DEEP into an information war, we are...

why does the first screen shot have control data out puts and also, why is there a date on the screen that seems to indicate 06/11 (2011?) 2011 is when the pipeline was initiated... so that probably was an inspection devise...

"Munitions Object Found Near Nord Stream Pipeline has been Successfully Cleared"
I dunno, this seems like bs to me... and obvious BS at that.




I suggest watching this entire video, but this link ( https://youtu.be/P6zWLu29Z8I?t=1555 ) will show you a hilarious reaction that is ,... uh... very telling

P6zWLu29Z8I

to me this is much better than the "red herring" drone theory from the links above...but still, it's very important to see how this is playing out; and I think we are seeing it very clearly right here.

Yeah not sure about the pictures, but this article, from the Nordstream website is dated Nov 12 2015. Date authenticity supported by google date search. They do not, however, go into details about the device.

https://www.nord-stream.com/press-info/press-releases/munitions-object-found-near-nord-stream-pipeline-has-been-successfully-cleared-478/


Here mentions a remote cable attached to the drone, but no mention that it belongs to NATO, also from 2015.

https://www.pipeline-journal.net/news/explosive-laden-drone-found-near-nord-stream-pipeline

Johnnycomelately
20th October 2022, 05:31
The past is interesting, but I think it is probably irrelevant for this. Logs of traffic patterns, plus that the odds of some sub slinking in there unnoticed are lower than a hare racing the proper course against the tortoise (tortoise wins that one, but normally FAST and steady wins the race ~8) ).

About the apparent length of pipe damaged (50 m?), thought that that might indicate a line charge as is used to clear a path through minefields. Any means would leave a signature, but I doubt we public will ever see the data. I’d bet that North Korea wishes they could do this kind of thing.

norman
21st October 2022, 17:05
So, I wonder, when does work get going on repairing the pipeline, winter is coming. Europe needs gas.

Has anyone here seen anything in the media ( alt included ) of public talking heads taking about getting cracking at it ?

justntime2learn
21st October 2022, 18:02
So, I wonder, when does work get going on repairing the pipeline, winter is coming. Europe needs gas.

Has anyone here seen anything in the media ( alt included ) of public talking heads taking about getting cracking at it ?

I've heard nothing more than Putin offers. I read somewhere this morning that Putin was interested in installing a second Turk stream, however I can't find where I read that.

JackMcThorn
21st October 2022, 18:47
Somewhere I read it could take months and even a year to fix these pipelines. It is not a quick fix at all. Europe is in a pickle.

I'll try to find where I read that, right when it happened and reupdate here.



The repairs to the Kvitebjørn pipeline took five months and the Mediterranean pipeline was operational again nine months after the accident. At Nord Stream it is likely to take even longer due to the unusual circumstances.

This is a good article: https://globelivemedia.com/article/how-to-fix-nord-stream/

norman
21st October 2022, 21:52
Damaged cable leaves Shetland cut off from mainland

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9D87/production/_127272304_shetlandmap.png.webp


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-63326102


More likely damaged by a stealthy submarine sneaking around.


I'm off to recheck one of Monkey Worx US's videos where I think I saw Sub hunter activity in that exact area.



Here's the part of the video I was thinking of.

https://youtu.be/fcIiVbfJb3M?t=524

It's in the right place.



I've had another thought. The cables could have been silenced ( somehow ) deliberately so that sub hunting sensors can have a quieter background noise floor to work with ?

justntime2learn
22nd October 2022, 02:10
Damaged cable leaves Shetland cut off from mainland

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9D87/production/_127272304_shetlandmap.png.webp


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-63326102


More likely damaged by a stealthy submarine sneaking around.


I'm off to recheck one of Monkey Worx US's videos where I think I saw Sub hunter activity in that exact area.



Here's the part of the video I was thinking of.

https://youtu.be/fcIiVbfJb3M?t=524

It's in the right place.



I've had another thought. The cables could have been silenced ( somehow ) deliberately so that sub hunting sensors can have a quieter background noise floor to work with ?

Isn't there a NATO early warning site in Shetland?

norman
22nd October 2022, 07:22
Isn't there a NATO early warning site in Shetland?




RAF Saxa Vord

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Saxa_Vord


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Saxa_Vord_radome_-_geograph.org.uk_-_311296.jpg


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2f/Saxa.jpg/100px-Saxa.jpg
Praemoneo de Periculis
Latin for - "I give advanced warning about danger"


Closure
In 2005, the RAF announced that RRH Saxa Vord would close. The Type 93 radar was approaching obsolescence and was increasingly difficult to maintain. It was considered that with a reduced threat, funding would be diverted to other defence priorities.

RRH Saxa Vord closed in April 2006 with the site being placed on programme of care and maintenance and the radar being dismantled and used for spares in other Type 93 radars.

In April 2007, Saxa Vord's Domestic Site and the road up to the Mid Site were bought by Military Asset Management (MAM).

Reactivation as RRH
In September 2017, the Ministry of Defence confirmed that £10 million would be invested in Saxa Vord to reactivate the site as a Remote Radar Head. The move will provide better coverage of the airspace to the north of the UK, in response to increased Russian military activity.[18][19] Work began in October 2017 to move a Lockheed Martin AN/TPS-77 L-band radar from RRH Staxton Wold in North Yorkshire to Saxa Vord.

During January 2018, Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sir Stephen Hillier visited the site to inspect progress and the new radar reached initial operational capability. It was expected to reach full operational capability by the end of 2018.

As part of a major upgrade of RRH sites around the U.K. the MOD began a programme titled HYDRA in 2020 to install new state of the art communications buildings, radar towers and bespoke perimeter security.

Nobody will be permanently based at Saxa Vord, but regular visits will take place for maintenance purposes.

Some of the former base facilities are now in use as the Saxa Vord distillery and the proposed SaxaVord Spaceport.




I doubt the station relies on the civilian cable link but the cable being gone will make civilian nosy parkers silent if something else is going on around there


Another very wild notion: IF ( I think unlikely ) the station DOES rely on the cable link, cutting the cable link would make both black hat Brit military and white hat Brit military more blind to where black hat US military are actually tracking subs in the area from there up to Iceland [ or visa versa, even ].

justntime2learn
25th October 2022, 13:10
So, I wonder, when does work get going on repairing the pipeline, winter is coming. Europe needs gas.

Has anyone here seen anything in the media ( alt included ) of public talking heads taking about getting cracking at it ?

RT:

"Nord Stream Repair Time Frame Assessed

Russia’s Nord Stream gas pipelines, which were damaged and made inoperable by underwater explosions in late September, can be repaired within a few months.

That's according to the state-backed Danish Broadcasting Corporation (DR) which was citing Sten Ussing, Chief Engineer with consultant group COWI.

Ussing assessed from underwater video-footage that the pipes will not be damaged by rust for some time as there is little oxygen at a depth of 80 meters, where they are located. He noted that the fracture surfaces look “very clean and almost shiny,” which suggests that “the pipe will not rust in a few weeks, as one would expect in a more oxygenated environment.”

JackMcThorn
25th October 2022, 14:32
"Nord Stream Repair Time Frame Assessed

I think it is useful to point out that 2 was not online or cleared to be online yet and 1 was only operating at 2o% capacity before the damage.

amor
25th October 2022, 21:50
MURDER, SUICIDES, SUSPICIOUS DEATHS OF RUSSIAN GAS PROM TOP EXECUTIVES AND BILLIONAIRES:

On Oct. 23, 2022, around 3:00 AM on Youtube.com I happened upon a major video covering the mysterious and suspicious deaths of Top Executives of Russia's Gas Prom. Briefly, three of these men were found with their wives and children as well
as themselves Shot to Death. These were separate incidents. One billionaire was in his hospital room with balcony. He had fallen off of the balcony mysteriously. Another man had fallen off of a cliff, and more mysterious events.

I happened upon this set of stories first and then came upon the story of the sabotage of the Gas Pipelines, after which the following day I read the posts about BIDEN's statement that the USA could or would take out the Russian Gas Pipelines.

I could not remember the Youtube.com video post titles and so, I made up something I presumed might lead to those posts. eg Youtube.com/Mysterious Deaths of Russian Billionaires and Gas Prom Executives, and to my surprise a number of video titles came up, more than I thought possible. Therefore, please bring up and present the information under suggested and tell Avalonians about them. I am having difficulties with my computer.

This information about the murder of Gas Prom Executives and Russian Billionaires, points the finger at USA, Great Britain and WEF (World Bankers) as the culprits involved in attempting to bring about WW3 to help out GLOBAL GENOCIDE.

FURTHER, I had a thought that tied in with the move to have all Electrical Vehicles. That is, that if and when an event causing all electricity in USA to vanish, the powers that be will try to blame Russia, but it will really be the same group of murdering genocidal devils now ill using the American Military to bring about GLOBAL GENOCIDE.

What else can you call it when laws are being passed to give LETHAL JABBS TO NEW BORN BABIES. We neither have a Constitution to protect us nor Representatives who Represent us, but they represent Bill Gates, Fauci and the WEF Nazi Bankers who have all our money and now want to kill us all off. WHERE IS THE MILITARY. DON'T THESE IDIOTS (GENERALS INCLUDED) REALIZE THAT GETTING RID OF GLOBAL MURDERERS IS ALSO PROTECTING THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES????

amor
27th October 2022, 05:37
During my midnight galavant all over the internet, I am certain I read that England DECORATED two service men for their excellent performance (I understood it to be for their underwater sabotage of the pipeline); it was done by two British Servicemen. In my opinion this is all under the heading of operations by the "CROWN,' Rothschild et. al., Bankers. Would they be fighting so desperately if the money and stocks of the public were actually still existing safe and secure in their hands? Perhaps all those funds are only WIND and all have been stolen. War and total ruin would be a good cover for all of that. AND, of course under the cover of Emergency Powers they have legislated themselves the theft of everyone's property; you will be unable to sue the SOB's. Since they have chosen to defecate on the Golden Rule in life, our response should be DO UNTO THEM AS THEY HAVE DONE UNTO US.

JackMcThorn
29th October 2022, 11:43
During my midnight galavant all over the internet, I am certain I read that England DECORATED two service men for their excellent performance (I understood it to be for their underwater sabotage of the pipeline); it was done by two British Servicemen.

Sky News reported late this morning that the Russian has stated representatives of a British Navy Unit were responsible for the pipeline sabotage.

In america, if they decorated men in SF, it would be done in secret. I find it odd that the brits would mention it. I think the wording from the news is a bit cryptic, in the effect of 'representatives' as if they did the deed on their own without 'official' conduct.

Kryztian
29th October 2022, 12:20
British navy involved in Nord Stream 2 'terrorist attack' – Russia
UK forces participated in an operation which damaged Europe's energy security, Moscow claims
https://www.rt.com/russia/565577-nord-stream-uk-attack/

Britain’s Royal Navy played a part in orchestrating and staging the sabotage of the Nord Stream gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Saturday. The accusation follows the Russian Foreign Ministry’s claim that NATO conducted a military exercise during the summer, close to the location where the undersea explosions occurred.

Writing on its official Telegram channel, the ministry alleged that Royal Navy operatives “took part in planning, supporting and implementing” a “terrorist attack” to blow up the gas pipelines on September 26.

According to the Defense Ministry, the same British operatives were involved in the training of Ukrainian military personnel who recently attacked ships of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, which were implementing a grain deal between Russia and Ukraine, brokered by the UN and Türkiye.

The pipelines, which were built to deliver Russian natural gas directly to Germany, abruptly lost pressure on September 26, following a series of underwater explosions off the Danish island of Bornholm.

Both Western countries and Russia sounded the alarm about the incident, with Moscow denouncing it as a terrorist attack and calling for an investigation into the matter.

In late September, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova noted that this summer, NATO conducted military drills not far from Bornholm, which featured intensive use of “deep-sea equipment’’ .

Earlier this month the Wall Street Journal, citing German officials familiar with the investigation, reported that the blasts which damaged the pipelines were caused by sabotage. While the officials stopped short of naming the culprit, they were said to be “working under the assumption that Russia was behind the blasts.” Moscow has repeatedly denied that it had anything to do with the incident.

Meanwhile, Sky News has cited a UK defense official as saying Nord Stream 1 and 2 could have been damaged by a remotely detonated underwater explosive device. At the time, the broadcaster said the pipelines might have been breached by mines lowered to the seabed, or explosives dropped from a boat or planted by an undersea drone.

https://www.rt.com/russia/565577-nord-stream-uk-attack/

avid
29th October 2022, 15:09
I am ashamed to be associated with any evil perpetration of wrong-doing to escalate the proxy war, perpetrated by NATO subsidiaries.
We in UK are helpless due to political manipulations by WEF puppets. This has got to stop.
Democracy has gone, UK is a pawn for the WEF.
Lots of us are aware, but stuffed into a media-blanked corner. Reprehensible behaviour from WEFMinster.
Charity should now begin at home, supporting those ripped off by the banksters and this heinous ‘government’/cabal.
Good luck to Putin to rectify old wrongs, but we need an honest, decent, democracy here in UK. Is that possible?

Kryztian
29th October 2022, 16:02
I am ashamed to be associated with any evil perpetration of wrong-doing to escalate the proxy war, perpetrated by NATO subsidiaries.
We in UK are helpless due to political manipulations by WEF puppets.

No reason that you should feel personal shame Avid. These people may claim to represent you as a Brit, just like Joe Biden claims to represent me, but we both 100% opposed to them on these issues. They all hide behind the flags of our respective countries and claim to be patriots, when their real and secret loyalty is to the International Legion of Psychopathcs.

And when all is said and done, I think it is more than just the UK that blew up the pipeline.

justntime2learn
30th October 2022, 00:57
I am ashamed to be associated with any evil perpetration of wrong-doing to escalate the proxy war, perpetrated by NATO subsidiaries.
We in UK are helpless due to political manipulations by WEF puppets.

No reason that you should feel personal shame Avid. These people may claim to represent you as a Brit, just like Joe Biden claims to represent me, but we both 100% opposed to them on these issues. They all hide behind the flags of our respective countries and claim to be patriots, when their real and secret loyalty is to the International Legion of Psychopathcs.

And when all is said and done, I think it is more than just the UK that blew up the pipeline.

Well said Chris :heart:

Thank you!

avid, It's admirable you take responsibility for things you don't consent to and are out of your control. I noticed things like that.
Bless you my friend!

norman
30th October 2022, 01:25
I am ashamed to be associated with any evil perpetration of wrong-doing to escalate the proxy war, perpetrated by NATO subsidiaries.
We in UK are helpless due to political manipulations by WEF puppets. This has got to stop.
Democracy has gone, UK is a pawn for the WEF.
Lots of us are aware, but stuffed into a media-blanked corner. Reprehensible behaviour from WEFMinster.
Charity should now begin at home, supporting those ripped off by the banksters and this heinous ‘government’/cabal.
Good luck to Putin to rectify old wrongs, but we need an honest, decent, democracy here in UK. Is that possible?

We need unity more than any kind of democracy available to us at this time. The government and their masters want to enforce ( through legislation etc ) a unity in darkness and ignorance. We the little people need unity in light. The lights are coming on individually at an escalating pace but there's still a way to go yet.

You can bite your nails or you can pray. I kinda do both, a lot.

Gwin Ru
31st October 2022, 12:43
...

... credit to
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1586393892609351680
1586393892609351680
https://twitter.com/jaccocharite/status/1586815081178071041
1586815081178071041


Ain't she the one who stated she was willing to push that button?!


She basically and virtually nuked Germany (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116410-Global-Shortages-of-Everything&p=1525259&viewfull=1#post1525259) following the plan to hand the planet control over to China...

justntime2learn
3rd November 2022, 18:57
49857


The whole world knows what's up with the Nord Stream - Vučić

The President of Serbia, Aleksandar Vučić, said that NATO drones were flying near the territory of Serbia all day yesterday.

"They were 200-500 meters from the administrative border, on the other side." NATO respects all procedures. We saw them, but we had no right to shoot them down in accordance with Resolution 1244 of the UN Security Council and the Kumanovo Agreement. They were not there to play games," the president explained.

According to Vučić, commercial drones are used because it is believed that in this case it is impossible to determine the owner.

"Because of that, they always work with the commercial drones that we shot down today." It's like sabotage on the Nord Stream. It seems to me that everyone knows, the whole world knows about it, but they pretend to be naive. Let's pretend to be a little naive," added the Serbian leader.

Vucic: Serbia Will ‘Play Naive’ on Who Sent Downed Drone

Complete story: https://balkaninsight.com/2022/11/03/vucic-serbia-will-play-naive-on-who-sent-downed-drone/

And there's still the Liz Truss cell phone thing that seems to be gaining traction.

TargeT
3rd November 2022, 19:01
the Liz Truss cell phone thing that seems to be gaining traction.

how F'n stupid are these people; how have they stayed in power this long??

ExomatrixTV
8th February 2023, 20:51
How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline (https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream)

The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now



dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/bekende-onderzoeksjournalist-zo-werden-de-nord-stream-pijpleidingen-opgeblazen) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

arwen
8th February 2023, 21:30
Did Biden give the order to destroy Putin's Nord Stream pipeline after Ukraine invasion? Bombshell report claims Navy divers carried out mission to kill Russia's gas stranglehold on Europe in audacious mission overseen by president (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727691/U-S-carried-Nord-Stream-bomb-attack-secret-plan-led-Joe-Biden-report-claims.html)



U.S. Navy divers planted C4 explosives that caused $500 million damage to Nord Stream pipelines between Russia and Germany, sensational report claims

Report by Pulitzer Prize-winner Seymour Hersh details plot in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Europe's dependence on gas from Moscow

The White House and the CIA have denied claims the attack was carried out after nine months of secret planning overseen by President Joe Biden


Specialized U.S. Navy diving teams carried out the bombing attack against the underwater Nord Stream pipelines which supply Russian gas to western Europe during a top secret mission overseen by President Joe Biden, a bombshell report claims.

Divers planted C4 explosives on three Nord Stream pipelines in June 2022 which were detonated three months later using a sonar buoy which broadcast a signal that triggered the bombs, according to the report.

The attack was carried out in response to Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine and designed to force Germany and other European nations to end their reliance on Russian gas, it is claimed. The move would also disrupt Moscow's income from gas sales - which have contributed billions of dollars to its war effort.

The sensational report by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh, published to his Substack, cites a source 'with direct knowledge of the operational planning' behind the alleged plot. The White House and the CIA flatly rejected the report on Wednesday, branding it 'complete fiction'.

Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines were sabotaged by bomb blasts on September 26 2022 in an attack that, ostensibly, continues to baffle investigators. While analysts say the immediate impact of the attack was 'limited' - because the pipelines were not fully operational - the geopolitical consequences were huge.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/19/67476517-11727691-image-a-31_1675885602811.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/16/67471377-11727691-image-a-21_1675875019886.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/16/67470249-11727691-image-a-22_1675875086952.jpg


Russia, which has pointed the finger at the U.S., reportedly believes repairs will cost at least $500 million, but the Kremlin still hasn't confirmed the pipes will be fixed. The Nord Stream project cost around $20 billion and took 15 years to construct.

In a compelling, 5,000-word report about the alleged attack, Hersh claims diving experts trained at the U.S. Navy Diving and Salvage Center in Florida planted the explosives.

The divers are said to have carried out the top secret and highly-dangerous operation during BALTOPS22, a series of military exercises in the Baltic Sea carried out by 16 NATO countries. The U.S. divers reportedly used the highly-publicized, 13-day event in June 2022 as cover for their top-secret mission.

The C4 explosives attached to the pipelines were fitted with sensors that enabled them to be detonated remotely at a later date, Hersh reports.

Hersh reports that the explosions were triggered by a sonar buoy dropped by an aircraft. The buoy emitted a sequence of 'unique low frequency tonal sounds', compared to those produced by a flute or piano, which triggered the C4.

A spokesman for the White House said the report is 'false and complete fiction'. A spokesman for the CIA said: 'This claim is completely and utterly false.'

In February, Biden said the U.S. would 'bring an end' to Nord Stream if Russia invaded Ukraine. During a joint news conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Biden said: 'If Russia invades... then there will be longer Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.'

Asked how he would do that, the President responded cryptically: 'I promise you we will be able to do it.'

The press conference was held as Russia was mounting tens of thousands of troops at its border with Ukraine, in preparation for the invasion which began weeks later, on February 24.

Bill Ryan
8th February 2023, 22:22
Did Biden give the order to destroy Putin's Nord Stream pipeline after Ukraine invasion? Bombshell report claims Navy divers carried out mission to kill Russia's gas stranglehold on Europe in audacious mission overseen by president (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727691/U-S-carried-Nord-Stream-bomb-attack-secret-plan-led-Joe-Biden-report-claims.html)




U.S. Navy divers planted C4 explosives that caused $500 million damage to Nord Stream pipelines between Russia and Germany, sensational report claims
Report by Pulitzer Prize-winner Seymour Hersh details plot in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Europe's dependence on gas from Moscow
The White House and the CIA have denied claims the attack was carried out after nine months of secret planning overseen by President Joe Biden

Here's Seymour Hersh's extremely long and detailed article, published 10 hours ago: :thumbsup:

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
(https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream)
How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now

Bill Ryan
8th February 2023, 23:07
Did Biden give the order to destroy Putin's Nord Stream pipeline after Ukraine invasion? Bombshell report claims Navy divers carried out mission to kill Russia's gas stranglehold on Europe in audacious mission overseen by president (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727691/U-S-carried-Nord-Stream-bomb-attack-secret-plan-led-Joe-Biden-report-claims.html)





U.S. Navy divers planted C4 explosives that caused $500 million damage to Nord Stream pipelines between Russia and Germany, sensational report claims
Report by Pulitzer Prize-winner Seymour Hersh details plot in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Europe's dependence on gas from Moscow
The White House and the CIA have denied claims the attack was carried out after nine months of secret planning overseen by President Joe Biden


Here's Seymour Hersh's extremely long and detailed article, published 10 hours ago: :thumbsup:

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
(https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream)
How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now~~~

This is already being censored and blocked everywhere. :) So here's the PDF:

https://projectavalon.net/Seymour_Hersh_How_America_Took_Out_The_Nord_Stream_Pipeline.pdf

https://projectavalon.net/Seymour_Hersh_How_America_Took_Out_The_Nord_Stream_Pipeline.pdf

ExomatrixTV
9th February 2023, 13:13
Did Biden give the order to destroy Putin's Nord Stream pipeline after Ukraine invasion? Bombshell report claims Navy divers carried out mission to kill Russia's gas stranglehold on Europe in audacious mission overseen by president (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727691/U-S-carried-Nord-Stream-bomb-attack-secret-plan-led-Joe-Biden-report-claims.html)





U.S. Navy divers planted C4 explosives that caused $500 million damage to Nord Stream pipelines between Russia and Germany, sensational report claims
Report by Pulitzer Prize-winner Seymour Hersh details plot in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Europe's dependence on gas from Moscow
The White House and the CIA have denied claims the attack was carried out after nine months of secret planning overseen by President Joe Biden


Here's Seymour Hersh's extremely long and detailed article, published 10 hours ago: :thumbsup:

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
(https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream)
How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now


indeed (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119616-Nord-Stream-1-2-Is-sabotage-behind-it&p=1542400&viewfull=1#post1542400)

kfm27917
9th February 2023, 14:06
Did Biden give the order to destroy Putin's Nord Stream pipeline after Ukraine invasion? Bombshell report claims Navy divers carried out mission to kill Russia's gas stranglehold on Europe in audacious mission overseen by president (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727691/U-S-carried-Nord-Stream-bomb-attack-secret-plan-led-Joe-Biden-report-claims.html)


U.S. Navy divers planted C4 explosives that caused $500 million damage to Nord Stream pipelines between Russia and Germany, sensational report claims
Report by Pulitzer Prize-winner Seymour Hersh details plot in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Europe's dependence on gas from Moscow
The White House and the CIA have denied claims the attack was carried out after nine months of secret planning overseen by President Joe Biden

Here's Seymour Hersh's extremely long and detailed article, published 10 hours ago: :thumbsup:

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
(https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream)
How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline


more details today at
https://www.sott.net/article/477146-Means-And-Motive-How-America-Took-Out-The-Nord-Stream-Pipeline

Gwin Ru
9th February 2023, 15:27
...

... 2023.02.09 Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BcvjWArwD4) 11:35


https://yt3.ggpht.com/vzpmLOtRTFykfxJcrGthFQNH7nbEWfBx2wc2EYqZmJIZZsGJrlFGovEKSdz7hYjxt2C-5mSN5g=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj (https://www.youtube.com/@gonzalolira0229) Gonzalo Lira — Again (https://www.youtube.com/@gonzalolira0229)
Premiered 2 hours ago

-BcvjWArwD4

ExomatrixTV
9th February 2023, 15:51
Did Biden give the order to destroy Putin's Nord Stream pipeline after Ukraine invasion? Bombshell report claims Navy divers carried out mission to kill Russia's gas stranglehold on Europe in audacious mission overseen by president (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727691/U-S-carried-Nord-Stream-bomb-attack-secret-plan-led-Joe-Biden-report-claims.html)





U.S. Navy divers planted C4 explosives that caused $500 million damage to Nord Stream pipelines between Russia and Germany, sensational report claims
Report by Pulitzer Prize-winner Seymour Hersh details plot in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Europe's dependence on gas from Moscow
The White House and the CIA have denied claims the attack was carried out after nine months of secret planning overseen by President Joe Biden


Here's Seymour Hersh's extremely long and detailed article, published 10 hours ago: :thumbsup:

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
(https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream)
How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

more details to day at
https://www.sott.net/article/477146-Means-And-Motive-How-America-Took-Out-The-Nord-Stream-Pipeline


indeed (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119616-Nord-Stream-1-2-Is-sabotage-behind-it&p=1542400&viewfull=1#post1542400) :bowing:



Thursday LIVE: Did the CIA do Nordstream?

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ExomatrixTV
9th February 2023, 17:25
Nord Stream Pipeline SABOTAGED By US In Secret CIA Mission, Famed Investigative Reporter Claims:

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Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave react to a bombshell claim by investigative reporter Seymour Hersh that the U.S. was behind the Nordstream pipelines explosions.

seehas
9th February 2023, 18:11
Look who is talking „Roger Waters“ playing the peoples guy after visiting the Eppstein Island, but hey maybe he has to do it :o

Bill Ryan
9th February 2023, 19:59
Published less than an hour ago, here's Tucker Carlson on Seymour Hersh's long and detailed exposé (https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream). It's short (5 minutes), but half way through The Grayzone's Aaron Maté comes in. :thumbsup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOqcwRTuf1Q

jaybee
9th February 2023, 20:38
Published less than an hour ago, here's Tucker Carlson on Seymour Hersh's long and detailed exposé (https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream). It's short (5 minutes), but half way through The Grayzone's Aaron Maté comes in. :thumbsup:

video snipped see above



Tucker @5:06... 'NATO is a coalition of European powers lead by the United States - the United States just wrecked their economies - I don't see how NATO stays together after this - I don't but what do I know...'

wow... that is a bold statement to make and it could explain Zelensky's surprise visit to the UK ( where he was worshipped by the ridiculous Political Class) and I think he was going to other European countries as well - we need NATO to break up - they should have broke up after Communist Soviet Russia ended at beginning of the 1990's anyway ...

kfm27917
9th February 2023, 23:48
I have the premonition that the Panama City diving team will die in a helicopter crash soon....

arwen
10th February 2023, 00:59
The Covert Operation That Took Down The Nord Stream Pipeline (Greg Reese, 6 minutes)

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Violet3
10th February 2023, 08:32
Short and devastating rant by Judge Napolitano earlier today or late yesterday on the US culpability for the pipe line. His website is called 'Judging Freedom' and always has succinct and cutting edge analysis and interviews, available on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/@judgenapolitano-judgingfre7226/videos). Another one coming up in a few hours on The Duran, with my favorite analysts and interviewers, talking about the sabotaging of peace with Jeffrey Sachs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfqacYEXtKQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySNyAaw4VEI

Bill Ryan
10th February 2023, 16:33
A very interesting, long and detailed comment posted yesterday on The Moon of Alabama:


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/02/ukraine-open-thread-2023-34.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02b685275f21200d#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02b685275f21200d

The original article, in German, is here:


https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2023/was-ein-whistleblower-mir-schon-im-2022-ueber-die-nord-stream-sprengung-mitgeteilt-hat

~~~

From Anti-Spiegel.ru (https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2023/was-ein-whistleblower-mir-schon-im-2022-ueber-die-nord-stream-sprengung-mitgeteilt-hat):

In my article translating (https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2023/die-details-werden-bekannt-wie-die-usa-nord-stream-gesprengt-haben/) Seymour Hersh's report detailing how the Biden administration planned and carried out the blasting of the Nord Stream pipelines as early as 2021, I mentioned that a few months ago, someone contacted me, who claimed to have been a soldier in the maneuver BALTOPS 22 and who claims to have seen how extremely arrogantly behaved special divers from the USA on the warship on which he had served, exactly at the site of the later detonation the attachment of "practiced" mines.

Unfortunately, he couldn't provide any evidence for his story and wanted to remain anonymous, which is why I didn't report on it, because he couldn't provide anything reliable to confirm his story. Of course, I don't write an article based on a story from someone who doesn't reveal their identity and can't provide supporting evidence for their story. However, after Hersh was published on February 8th, I am certain that the whistleblower who contacted me at the time was telling the truth because his story fits exactly with what Hersh published.

Therefore I will tell here what I found out in October 2022 and I will also completely translate and publish the email from the whistleblower, the text of which I received on October 4, 2022. The email was originally in English and came from an anonymous Proton address.

As I found out from the whistleblower:

In early October 2022, I was contacted by my colleague and friend John Marc Dugan (https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/wie-eine-reise-in-den-donbass-eine-pro-westliche-aktivistin-veraendert-hat/), an American living in Moscow. He had received an email from an anonymous whistleblower.

At the time we discussed for a long time what we could do with it, but since the whistleblower couldn't provide any evidence for his story and we couldn't verify the pictures he sent, after all everything is possible with Photoshop, I wasn't prepared to publish anything about it. As far as I know, John didn't report about it in his videos either.

Which parts of the Hersh story the whistleblower's email confirms:

With what I know today from Seymour Hersh's article, I believe the whistleblower's story is authentic because it fits exactly what Hersh writes. At the time, the whistleblower reported on non-military-looking US special divers who were helicoptered onto the warship on which the whistleblower was serving during maneuver BALTOPS 22.

This confirms Hersh's story that the specialty divers are from the Panama City Navy diving school in Florida and were not soldiers but are believed to be US intelligence. Even more: Hersh does not go into the details of the operation in the Baltic Sea itself, but the whistleblower does. And he mentioned that the US special divers had MK29 diving systems, which he says are classified.

According to what can be found on the net, the MK29 are actually secret, in any case you cannot order them, there are only reports about them. Most importantly, according to a 2018 U.S. Department of Defense report (https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/1537790/new-rebreather-helps-navy-divers-under-the-waves/), they were developed by the very U.S. Navy diving school in Panama City, Florida that Hersh mentions. The fact that the whistleblower mentioned the MK29 system, which has a direct connection to the Navy diving school whose specialist divers Hersh says planted the bombs on the pipelines, back in early October 2022 is further confirmation of Hersh's story for me.

In this video, the US Navy proudly displays the MK29 and explains its benefits on long deep dives.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCbPlSGrXZ8
According to the whistleblower, the special divers were supposed to do exercises with sea mines, but according to the whistleblower they did not have the necessary equipment with them. Instead, they carried state-of-the-art deep-diving gear (including the MK29) that they don't even need for a sea mine exercise, which floats at such shallow depths that conventional scuba gear is sufficient. According to the whistleblower, the special divers were also active in the wrong place during the exercise and were under water much longer than is possible with the equipment he is familiar with.

Hersh writes in his article that the special divers attached the explosive devices to the pipelines under the guise of an exercise with sea mines. The exercise with sea mines was therefore included in the BALTOPS 22 maneuver as a camouflage for laying the bombs on the pipelines. Here, too, the email written by the whistleblower corresponds to the article now published by Hersh.

The whistleblower's email:

I am now showing the text of the email that the whistleblower sent to John and which John forwarded to me immediately afterwards on October 4th. I translated them from English.

[Start of translation]
Dear Mr. Dugan!

I am writing this letter in the hope that you will pass it on. I cannot share the information myself as it would harm my career and life. I am sending you this photo as proof that I was there and a copy of my ID. You may give this to another journalist you trust, but do not give it away from your possession. It is important that you do not share it with anyone and that you never use this email account again. You can quote the letter verbatim as it is written:

I had a leading administrative role in the BALTOPS 22 military exercise in June near the island of Bornholm, Denmark. I can't give you my exact title as it could reveal my identity. There were some unusual details surrounding a group of US Marines from Naval Striking and Support Forces NATO (STRIKFORNATO) who had traveled from Stockholm. What seemed odd at the time looks downright nefarious in hindsight.

Let me explain. Forgive me in advance if I have misunderstood the terminology, as my country's military may use different terms. I can't give specifics about my job, but I do work coordinating dive teams and underwater operations with various NATO-allied forces.

On June 15, the day of the exercise, I was involved in coordinating certain aspects of the exercise. I have to be vague here. A US military helicopter arrived with a group of men believed to be US Navy mine hunters. They disembarked, unloaded their gear, and met both the US Navy Vice Admiral and a group of plainclothes American men, who arrived a few hours later. We all assumed they were some sort of intelligence operative.

After a short conversation, which I couldn't hear because of the helicopter noise, they went to their briefing.

I found it quite odd that they were from the US Navy. My first thought was that they looked like a group of terrorists and not someone from the US Navy. The other groups that we had from many branches of the military had some kind of standards. Haircuts, for example. Not only did these men have wild hair that would have gone against military norms in any civilized nation, but they also had facial hair. Like I said, they looked more like Middle Eastern terrorists. Neither of these men wore an identification tag around their neck.

Another thing I found strange was that they claimed to be looking for underwater mines, but they didn't have the equipment for such exercises. Their gear consisted of the Navy's latest underwater diving gear and some small hard cases we call pelicans.

Their task was to take an inflatable boat to a certain location, look for anti-ship mines there and return with their findings. They usually carry a long metal detection kit with them on such ventures, but that was absent from their kit.

One detail that struck me as very odd here was that other minesweeper teams wore conventional SCUBA gear with tanks and the like, while this group wore state-of-the-art helium respirators and wetsuits. While I've never seen one up close, I'm pretty sure they were the MK29 systems, designed for deep diving and classified to this day. My country's military wouldn't even be able to afford the helium for it, let alone the suits themselves. Detecting mines just a few meters below the surface would certainly not require these suits.

They went out to sea in their boat. Not to the area where the simulated mines were placed, but to a completely different location. My colleague, who was monitoring the teams' various locations, made a casual joke about how the US Navy was lost and two thousand meters from where it was intended.

They got out of their boat, wearing their breathing apparatus, and disappeared underwater for over six hours. As far as I know, there is no self-contained underwater gear that can keep a diver under water for six hours. With the latest military systems, a maximum of three or four hours is possible if the diver is not overexerting himself. After a few hours we became concerned and contacted the US 6th Fleet coordinator who assured us that everything was fine, that they were in contact, that we were ignoring the matter and not making any reports should.

and when they returned, almost all the pelicans were missing. They didn't stay for any pleasantries. They chatted briefly with the US civilians, boarded a waiting helicopter, and took off. The civilians they spoke to also left, albeit in a different helicopter. Their mission was later described as "successfully completed", although they were nowhere near the goal.

In retrospect, I have the following suspicions. The divers met with a small, waiting submersible that took them to the pipeline area. The explosives required for such an operation would not have fit in their kit, so I suspect they carried surveying and tracking equipment with which they could mark where the explosives needed to be placed. After examining the pipeline and marking the correct coordinates, they had time to check this data with demolitions technicians, return to the site at a later date, and place the required explosive charges, which were then detonated with a timer or remotely.
[End of translation]

It should be noted that the whistleblower was probably wrong on one point in his conclusion, since the divers may have planted the explosives immediately, according to the Hersh report. Perhaps the submersible suspected by the whistleblower carried him, which is entirely possible.

The USA has the necessary, so-called "unmanned maritime systems" and they are regularly tested during maneuvers, such as this maneuver from September 2022 (https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_207293.htm?selectedLocale=en) off the coast of Portugal shows.

Bill Ryan
10th February 2023, 22:27
From Paul Joseph Watson:


https://summit.news/2023/02/10/china-demands-us-explain-itself-to-the-world-over-nord-stream-attack-story

(https://summit.news/category/world-at-war/) China Demands US “Explain Itself to the World” Over Nord Stream Attack Story

Beijing unsatisfied with dismissal of Seymour Hersh bombshell.

China has demanded that the United States “explain itself to the world” if the revelations in Seymour Hersh’s story about US intel being responsible for destroying the Nord Stream gas pipelines are true.

The Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist published an article this week in which he asserted that the pipelines were destroyed by the US as part of a covert operation.

According to Hersh’s sources, the explosives were planted in June 2022 by US Navy divers under the guise of the BALTOPS 22 NATO exercise and were detonated three months later with a remote signal sent by a sonar buoy.

One source told Hersh that the plotters knew the covert operation was an “act of war,” with some in the CIA and State Department warning, “Don’t do this. It’s stupid and will be a political nightmare if it comes out.”

Now Beijing is demanding that the White House address the issue, seemingly unimpressed with the Biden administration’s rather weak response to merely label the story “false”.

Earlier today, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning asserted that Washington would have to bear responsibility if the report is confirmed as accurate.

“If the conclusions of the investigation are true, then the US behavior is unacceptable,” the diplomat told reporters, adding that the US would need to “explain itself to the world community.”

The Kremlin also responded to the report by demanding a fresh international investigation into the attack, which was preceded by both Joe Biden and Victoria Nuland asserting that the pipelines would be taken out if Russia invaded Ukraine.

Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov said Hersh’s article showed “the need for an open international investigation into this unprecedented attack on this critical infrastructure.”

“It’s a very important piece, which… must provoke the acceleration of the international probe. But we, on the contrary, witness attempts to silently wind down such international investigation,” he added.

Meanwhile, in Germany, the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party is also calling (https://rmx.news/article/crisis-for-germany-and-us-afd-party-calls-for-investigation-after-bombshell-report-details-how-us-allegedly-blew-up-nord-stream-pipelines/) for a full inquiry.

“The Pulitzer Prize winner’s suspicions must be investigated,” wrote co-chairman of the AfD parliamentary group, Tino Chrupalla.

“Has NATO’s leading power carried out an attack on our country’s vital critical infrastructure in European waters? Then one would have to question whether the alliance guarantees security in Europe or rather endangers it. The consequence would be the withdrawal of all U.S. troops.”

norman
10th February 2023, 22:59
SITREP 2.10.23 - Nord Stream 2 Pipeline - Play by Play
Monkeyworx US

The flight tracking data of the operation


https://i.vgy.me/SKJdij.jpg



https://www.youtube.com/live/-gAzQ1KaCcE?feature=share&t=1202

If this video link doesn't start at 20 minutes in, go there manually.

-gAzQ1KaCcE

ExomatrixTV
10th February 2023, 23:32
The Plot To Blow Up Pipelines:

https://sp.rmbl.ws/fw/s8/2/W/L/S/g/WLSgi.gaa.rec.mp4


source (https://rumble.com/v28ydm8-sabotage-the-plot-to-blow-up-pipelines-and-the-plot-against-james-okeefe.html)

Nord Stream 2

In February 2023, in a post to Substack (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substack), Hersh claimed that the sabotage of the Nord Stream 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nord_Stream_pipeline_sabotage) pipeline had been carried out by the US Navy, the CIA, and the Norwegian Navy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Navy), under the direct order of President Biden. Hersh's report relied on an anonymous source who stated that, in June 2022, US Navy divers placed explosive C4 charges on the pipelines at strategic locations selected by the Norwegians. The source said that charges were placed under the cover of a multi-nation wargame simulation known as BALTOPS 22 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BALTOPS#BALTOPS_2022_(51st)), and remotely detonated three months later by a signal from a sonar buoy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonar_buoy) dropped by a Norwegian P-8 surveillance plane (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_P-8_Poseidon).[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh#cite_note-65)[65] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh#cite_note-66) A spokesperson for the United States National Security Council (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Security_Council) said the report was "utterly false and complete fiction".[66] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh#cite_note-67) Russia's foreign ministry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Foreign_Affairs_(Russia)) spokesperson, Maria Zakharova (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Zakharova), said the United States had questions to answer over its role in the explosions.[67] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh#cite_note-68)


rumble.com/search/all?q=Seymour%20Hersh (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Seymour%20Hersh) :dog:

ExomatrixTV
10th February 2023, 23:40
The Bombing Scandal Exposed:

https://sp.rmbl.ws/fw/s8/2/g/1/f/h/g1fhi.gaa.mp4


source (https://rumble.com/v290ldy-the-bombing-scandal-exposed-ep.-1948-the-dan-bongino-show.html)



US will try to smear Seymour Hersh for Nord Stream revelations – Afshin Rattansi


https://rumble-foxo.cdn.rumble.cloud/video/cwg9/s8/2/q/f/l/g/qflgi.gaa.mp4

The Nord Stream pipelines were destroyed last September by the US in a covert operation, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has claimed. However, US officials have categorically rejected the accusation. Afshin Rattansi, host of 'Going Underground', says that of course the US has to deny Hersh’s claims, as what he has revealed means that the Biden administration is ‘responsible for perhaps one of the worst environmental and terror atrocities in history’.


source (https://rumble.com/v28vfps-us-will-try-to-smear-seymour-hersch-for-nord-stream-revelations-afshin-ratt.html)
rumble.com/search/all?q=Seymour%20Hersh (https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Seymour%20Hersh) :dog:

ExomatrixTV
11th February 2023, 00:24
Did America Covertly Take Out Russia's Nord Stream Pipeline? With Victor Davis Hanson:

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Megyn Kelly is joined by Victor Davis Hanson, author of “The Dying Citizen,” to discuss whether America secretly took out Russia’s Nord Stream pipeline, the White House’s denial, the consequences of such an act, how Biden could be impeached for this, and more.

ExomatrixTV
11th February 2023, 01:55
Biggest Story Of The Year:

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Bill Ryan
11th February 2023, 09:32
Chris Martenson chimes in with a quick 7 minute commentary. :thumbsup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRPqd97TUqM

ExomatrixTV
11th February 2023, 14:30
They Did It:

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ExomatrixTV
11th February 2023, 14:52
Joe Rogan (14.1M YouTube subs (https://www.youtube.com/@joerogan/videos), not counting any other platforms) should interview: Seymour Hersh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh) ... as soon as possible ...

Not only to put the record straight but to make it impossible for the Liberal mass media to help cover up, twist, mis-frame, downplay, willfully ignore, willfully play dumb etc. etc. thus becoming complicit in a crime against humanity ... When the interview is done it will be most likely copied & shared in all social media platforms including Liberal dominated platforms ... Not to mention the whole world seeing it too! ... Time for the mass media to be held accountable!

If enough lobby for the above ... via leaving comments like these on all big YouTube channels discussing this topic, we may succeed! ... Maybe it already planned but in case it is not: lobbying for Seymour Hersh to be on Joe Rogan is also a protection of his life ... if he succeeds to be on Joe Rogan it would be less likely for him to be "suicided" as that draws only much more attention!


If Seymour Hersh dies we would never hear his side to the level we needed it to hear ... we only have to go on one extensive report and 1000s of interpretations of it. So him being on Joe Rogan Show is the ultimate eye-opener for all "doubters".

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳




Prepare For WW3! Journalist Just Blew Up Biden Nord Stream Connection & Putin Won’t Ignore It!

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ExomatrixTV
11th February 2023, 16:53
CIA INTENTIONALLY Destroyed Nord Stream Pipeline: Report. Roger Waters Calls For IMMEDIATE Ceasefire:

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Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave react to a bombshell claim by investigative reporter Seymour Hersh that the U.S. was behind the Nord Stream pipelines explosions. Originally aired Feb. 9, 2023; https://youtu.be/QeryS-rrk7c

TomKat
11th February 2023, 18:20
some how and why the US did it
https://southfront.org/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/

mountain_jim
13th February 2023, 19:09
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mizo
15th February 2023, 10:49
Interesting development



https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1625805019361550338

mountain_jim
15th February 2023, 13:43
https://twitter.com/SevimDagdelen/status/1625535377044905985?s=20

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ExomatrixTV
15th February 2023, 20:43
Corporate Media Smears Reporter Who Revealed U.S. Blew Up Nord Stream Pipeline!

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The media’s purpose is to question dominant narratives and challenge authority, but too often today’s corporate media exists simply to regurgitate establishment talking points and run interference for powerful interests. Case in point: Business Insider writer Mia Jankowicz’s recent piece smearing Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh’s story revealing U.S. involvement in sabotaging the Nord Stream pipeline. Guest host Aaron Maté and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss how pathetically bought the mainstream media is today.

Bill Ryan
16th February 2023, 11:03
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/33555

Slavyangrad/33555

Michi
16th February 2023, 11:26
...and to top it, German Media did an Interview with Seymour Hersh about the Nordstream, titled:
"Seymour Hersh interview: Joe Biden blasted Nord Stream because he didn't trust Germany."

Source: (in German) https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/seymour-hersh-im-interview-joe-biden-sprengte-nord-stream-weil-er-deutschland-nicht-traut-li.317700

and translated into English:
https://www-berliner--zeitung-de.translate.goog/politik-gesellschaft/seymour-hersh-im-interview-joe-biden-sprengte-nord-stream-weil-er-deutschland-nicht-traut-li.317700?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

grapevine
16th February 2023, 12:15
And yet shortly after the destruction of the pipeline it was widely reported that Liz Truss was alleged to have texted "It's done" to Antony Blinken, which doesn't seem to have been mentioned in the Seymour Hersch article. And if Norway was involved, then why did Sweden, Denmark and Germany carry out individual investigations as the Nordic Region tends to stick together?

JackMcThorn
16th February 2023, 12:29
And yet shortly after the destruction of the pipeline it was widely reported that Liz Truss was alleged to have texted "It's done" to Antony Blinken, which doesn't seem to have been mentioned in the Seymour Hersch article. And if Norway was involved, then why did Sweden, Denmark and Germany carry out individual investigations as the Nordic Region tends to stick together?

The Russians at the time of the Liz Truss text were leaning on the British as the cause. Not much more was said after that for months until these american accusations. The countries were interested in their own private investigations because of the sensitive nature of the attack. Germany wanted to act on its own for sure. Sweden cited secrecy concerns from what I read at the time. These countries said they were sure whom the culprit was and hid behind national security for not revealing this information at the time. It was and still is quite confusing.

These new revelations have generated more questions than answers. I have some questions but they are not being answered by the main stream or the alt stream.

Surely Germany is not going to stand idle and let british or american interests dictate the state of the German economy? I would expect some Fury depending on the facts.

grapevine
16th February 2023, 12:55
These new revelations have generated more questions than answers. I have some questions but they are not being answered by the main stream or the alt stream.
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Just out of interest, would you mind sharing what your questions are Jack?

JackMcThorn
16th February 2023, 13:46
Just out of interest, would you mind sharing what your questions are Jack?

The Russian generally conducts its due diligence; especially before publishing. What else besides the Liz Truss text they intercepted, did they base their official posture on? [I find it difficult to believe the text is the only fact. But england did not necessarily discount itself from being involved either. Where is their denial?]

If the spooks were involved, even with ex-special forces conducting the operation, the Liz text would not have been necessary for communications. Why would Blinken require an up to the minute update? [other than for damage control of foreign policy?] Truss was a brand new prime minister and short-lived nonetheless, did this incident shorten her tenure without it being publicised? Usually, government security has strengths but personal communications devices are generally frowned upon; especially considering secrets for national security interests. This incident was probably a top secret calibre operation.

Where is the outrage in Germany over the incident? Towards which culprit? The investigation was sort of quickly conducted but little to no indication of holding anyone accountable.

Why the secrecy from Sweden and Denmark? [I find smaller nations carry themselves in a smaller way than world powers as they do not like to attract too much attention, but I am not sure that is the answer.]

What is the stance of the european union regarding accountability? [Germany is really the pin wheel of the union.]

Interestingly enough, China calling for accountability puts each of these nations in the limelight, and some of my question's answers might be forthcoming.

Bill Ryan
16th February 2023, 14:27
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/33671

Slavyangrad/33671

onawah
16th February 2023, 21:14
Briahna Joy Gray: Nord Stream Pipeline Blast BURIED By Mainstream Media, OBVIOUS Evidence Ignored
The Hill
1.55M subscribers
21,635 views
Feb 16, 2023

"Briahna Joy Gray criticizes the burying of information surrounding the Nord Stream pipelines explosion.

In this picture provided by Swedish Coast Guard, a leak from Nord Stream 2 is seen, Wednesday, Sept. 28, 2022. Swedish investigators found traces of explosives at the Baltic Sea site where two natural pipelines were damaged in an act of “gross sabotage,” the prosecutor leading Sweden's preliminary investigation said Friday, Nov. 18, 2022. (Swedish Coast Guard via AP, File)"

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ExomatrixTV
17th February 2023, 00:54
U.S. Media Refuses To Cover Bombshell Nord Stream Story!

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Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh published a bombshell report alleging that the United States, in conjuction with ally Norway, conspired to sabotage the Nord Stream pipeline. If true, this represents an extraordinary violation of international law and an attack on Germany, a fellow NATO nation. Yet for some reason the corporate news media in the United States seem determined to bury the story. Why on earth would that be? Guest host Aaron Maté and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the compliant mainstream media and their deference to the establishment when it comes to stories that threaten powerful interests.

Rizotto
17th February 2023, 09:24
The title of the 25 minute video below isn't entirely accurate. Quoting the description:
"Senator Mike Lee and other members of Congress are calling for an investigation into the Nord Stream attack that could lead to impeachment proceedings against President Biden. Russia is now calling for an emergency U.N. meeting over the pipeline attack."

"Biden impeached over Nord Stream attack! Senator says it's likely | Redacted with Clayton Morris"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nn-vxxtrsc

Bill Ryan
18th February 2023, 00:55
Seymour Hersh live on Consortium News, 6 hours ago. The interview starts at 10:50.

American Sabotage


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wI38E9bJzk

ExomatrixTV
18th February 2023, 01:08
Reporter Seymour Hersh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh) on "How America Took Out the Nord Stream Pipeline": Exclusive TV Interview:

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UPDATE: We have blurred some imagery about 30 seconds into the video in response to a content warning from YouTube that severely limited the reach of this interview. What you see now is an edited version. For the uncensored version of this interview that aired on our show, visit democracynow.org. ==== When the Nord Stream pipelines carrying natural gas from Russia to Germany were damaged last September, U.S. officials were quick to suggest Russia had bombed its own pipelines. But according to a new report by the legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh, it was the U.S. Navy that carried out the sabotage, with help from Norway. Citing a source "with direct knowledge of the operational planning," Hersh writes on his Substack blog that planning for the mission began in December of 2021. The White House and the Norwegian government have since denied the claims. Hersh joins us for an in-depth interview to discuss his report and says the U.S. decision to bomb the pipelines was meant to lock allies into support for Ukraine at a time when some were wavering. "The fear was Europe would walk away from the war," he says. Hersh won a Pulitzer Prize in 1970 for his reporting on the My Lai massacre. His reporting on CIA spying on antiwar activists during the Vietnam War era helped lead to the formation of the Church Committee, which led to major reforms of the intelligence community, and in 2004, he exposed the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal in Iraq.

Hermoor
18th February 2023, 03:41
Interesting development

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1625805019361550338

Here's a link to a Tass article on the above.

https://tass.com/politics/1577013

Two Irish MEPs (there are 705 MEPs in total) have been very vocal on the matter whilst 700 or more others aren't saying a single word about it!!!

https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1625873746434170882?cxt=HHwWhIC9ndzjoZAtAAAA

https://twitter.com/wallacemick/status/1626491847123124226?cxt=HHwWhIC-nfXtupItAAAA

Russian intelligence would have known a short time after the explosion who did it. They might even have known it was going to happen before the explosion.

It takes six more months before Hersh's work comes to public attention. And it's only then that Russia feels able to request a UN Security Council meeting?

No, no, no. There's a huge disconnect in there somewhere. None of it stacks up.

Of course there are a thousand shades of grey between black and white.

But an entire nation, a nation as powerful as Russia, sits around doing nothing for half a year? Before a single foreign journalist pipes up with some investigative work. And only then Russia feels able to request a UN meeting?

It's all very fishy and doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

Furthermore.

We all know how bent and corrupt the UN is. Everyone with eyes to see knows how bent and corrupt the UN is. Russian intelligence knows perfectly well how bent and corrupt the UN is. And now the mighty Russia thinks it can finally request a Security Council meeting because a solitary, little American journalist has their backs having done the work they were unable to do for themselves?

Goodness me. Isn't the global stage and all this puppetry just the biggest pile of ridiculous absurdity?

shaberon
18th February 2023, 05:49
It takes six more months before Hersh's work comes to public attention. And it's only then that Russia feels able to request a UN Security Council meeting?

No, no, no. There's a huge disconnect in there somewhere. None of it stacks up.

Of course there are a thousand shades of grey between black and white.

But an entire nation, a nation as powerful as Russia, sits around doing nothing for half a year? Before a single foreign journalist pipes up with some investigative work. And only then Russia feels able to request a UN meeting?

It's all very fishy and doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.


Sort of, but keep in mind the scenario.

Slow, evidence-based exposure.

For example, there is not a nuclear attack on New York just because it looks a lot like the United States made Covid.

The real story here was buried on day one. Bornholm Island was like NYC on 9/11. Nothing just "slips in" there, so we are given a fantasy.

What is disgusting here is the lengthy pre-planning, which then was triggered just by a threat about Russia and Ukraine.

To some extent, it is normal, as we might expect that the States are behind numerous "warehouse fires" in Russia and China both.

Since this one really does come under "Act of War", I hope someone does start being really careful about it.

Russia was not "allowed" on the investigation, and this is a mark of how poorly it is going. 9/11 at least had an alibi. Here, I guess they just assumed that people would assume the pipeline did it to itself or some kind of nonsense.

Perhaps it is similar to the fuel embargo that was placed against Japan.

The main victim winds up being Germany. But I would argue that it has been bullied and milked mostly by British and French collectivists since its unification in 1871, moreover, may have been unified for that reason. So an American president tried to blackmail someone, lost the wager and launched the bomb, which at least removes this form of leverage. Like using a belt-fed machine gun for three hundred misses.

If the president thought that two days was too close to an American presence and would be suspicious, of course he was right about that, unfortunately even two years won't have an expiry date, and we might be better off if this results in a prosecution towards him, than if it sparks a conflict.

ExomatrixTV
18th February 2023, 19:41
[PROOF] WE DID IT! | Seymour Hersh First Nord Stream Interview:

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Seymour Hersh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh) is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist noted for his recent reporting on the US being involved in the Nord Stream pipeline explosions. This was his first interview after publishing his article on Nord Stream.

Tintin
19th February 2023, 11:51
Taken from a Twitter feed and the statement from Sergei Lavrov now saved in the Avalon Library:


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov responds to Seymour Hersh's Nordstream article and urges foreign media to investigate: "Since not all of you report to Ned Price, you might give this investigation a try."

https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/2022_Russian_invasion_%28Operation-Z%29/Nord_Stream_2_pipeline_sabotage_September_2022/Sergey_Lavrov_responds_to_Seymour_Hersh_article_on_Nord_Stream_sabotage_2023-02-17.mp4

ExomatrixTV
19th February 2023, 16:17
Dem Congressman CONFRONTED Over Bombshell Nord Stream Pipeline Story:

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Democratic House Member from New York Ritchie Torres was recently confronted during a town hall by constituents demanding an investigation into whether, as investigative journalist Seymour Hersh recently revealed, the United States was responsible for the September 2022 bombing of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Torres deflected and distracted form the question, bizarrely suggesting that the U.S. could not conduct an investigation of a European pipeline and then calling his questioners “Putin puppets.” Guest host Aaron Maté breaks down the unbelievable cowardice on display in the non-response to the Hersh story exhibited by elected officials and the media.

Vicus
20th February 2023, 19:36
A US-Led 'Coalition Of The Willing' Foreshadows The Splintering Of NATO

The destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline was a gangster act that reveals the cancer at the heart of the “rules-based order”.
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/2023-02-18_14-13-26.jpg?itok=STtXqOfD

How can there be peace and security when the world’s most powerful nation can destroy the critical infrastructure of other countries without deliberation or judicial proceedings? If Hersh’s report can be trusted—and I think it can—then we must assume that senior-level advisors in the Biden administration as well as the president himself deliberately perpetrated an act of industrial terrorism against a long-term friend and ally, Germany. What Biden’s involvement in the act implies, is that the United States now claims the right to arbitrarily decide which countries may engage in commerce with which others. And, if for some reason, the buying and selling of energy supplies conflicts with Washington’s broader geopolitical objectives, then the US believes it has the right to obliterate the infrastructure that makes such trade possible. Isn’t this the rationale that was used to justify the blowing up of Nord Stream?

Sy Hersh has done the world a service by exposing the perpetrators of the Nord Stream sabotage. His expose not only identifies the people involved but also infers that they should be held accountable for their actions. But while we don’t expect any thorough investigation in the near future, we do think the magnitude of the attack has been a “wake up” call for people who cling to the belief that the Unipolar model can produce morally-acceptable outcomes. What the incident shows is that unilateral action inevitably leads to criminal violence against the weak and defenseless. Biden’s covert operation hurt every man, woman and child in Europe. It’s a real tragedy. Here’s a quote from a recent interview with Hersh:

“I think this story has the same potential for destroying the ability of our president to rally the American people behind the war because it shows something that is so dark and so Unamerican. You know, this isn’t us. We’re not talking about us. This is a bunch of intelligence officers and CIA people….” Seymour Hersh 2:29 min

He’s right, isn’t he? The Biden administration has vastly miscalculated the impact these revelations will have on the public. The reputational damage alone is going to be immense, but they will also be used as the prism through which many critics see the war. In fact, there are signs that that may already be happening. On Sunday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov confirmed that the real objective of Washington’s war was not simply to “weaken” Russia and eventually splinter it into smaller pieces, but to force a split between Germany and Russia. Here’s what he said on Saturday:

According to Lavrov, the US decided that Russia and Germany cooperated “too well” over the past 20-30 years, establishing a powerful alliance based on Russian resources and German technology.

“That began to threaten the monopoly position of many American corporations. Therefore, it was necessary to somehow ruin it, and do it literally,” the minister said.

continue: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/whitney-us-led-coalition-willing-foreshadows-splintering-nato

ExomatrixTV
22nd February 2023, 17:54
Seymour Hersh - Biden's Blackout: How America & Norway Blew Up The Nord Stream Pipelines Live:

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starts at: 3:48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w98UT9HrGX4&t=228s) :bowing:

shaberon
23rd February 2023, 06:54
Musk thinks she is a prophet or the main causus belli:



In January 2022, Nuland (https://sputniknews.com/20220128/better-than-stoking-tensions-peskov-on-nulands-joke-about-pumping-vodka-through-nord-stream-2-1092579675.html) said Nord Stream 2 would “not move forward” if Russia launched an operation in Ukraine, foreshadowing the US’s responsibility for the attack revealed by journalist Seymour Hersh earlier this month.

In December, Nuland said that the Biden administration is gratified to know the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is a “hunk of metal” at the bottom of the sea.



The people who cannot walk on stairs (https://sputniknews.com/20230222/biden-stumbles-and-falls-while-boarding-air-force-one--1107714202.html) go nowhere without permission (https://tass.com/politics/1580551):


"Biden did not dare to visit Kiev without warning Russia and without asking the Russian side to ensure his safety," she noted.

"In order to assign some drama to this moment, they have even sounded the air raid alarm," she noted. "Although, they told the people of Kiev in advance not to pay attention to it, due to absence of any actual threat. Everyone warned their neighbor: Biden is about to come, they will launch the siren, but it’s okay, we can stay home or do our own staff, because it is a part of the staging."


He could have stopped Ohio from turning into the Toxic Avenger (https://sputniknews.com/20230223/east-palestine-spox-blasts-biden-he-feels-safer-in-a-war-zone-in-ukraine-than-ohio-1107724640.html), but:


Instead, Biden decided to fly to Kiev to meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, leading East Palestine Mayor Mike Conaway to declare he was “furious” that Biden is “in the Ukraine giving billions of dollars to people over there and not to us.”
“That was the biggest slap in the face,” Conaway told Fox News, concluding: “that tells you right now — he doesn’t care about us.”

Yokley echoed the sentiment, telling Sputnik “we're disappointed” because “we know we're being politicized.”
“At the end of the day, the leader of the free world feels safer in a war zone in Ukraine than he does in his own backyard.



Which MTG (https://sputniknews.com/20230223/mtg-slams-biden-for-kissing-zelenskys-a--dragging-us-all-kicking-and-screaming-into-world-war-1107726201.html) takes like a lamb to the sacrifice:


Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene ripped into President Joe Biden for paying an official visit to Ukraine, a state that "would lead the United States to a world war," and in her Twitter post called for impeachment proceedings against Biden "before it’s too late."

Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene did not mince words as she denounced President Joe Biden for visiting Ukraine and cozying up to Volodymyr Zelensky instead of paying more attention to the chemical disaster in East Palestine, Ohio.




The actual update from the United Nations (https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/02/1133752) on Russia's asking for someone to really *do* an investigation, is more cover-up and denial:


US Ambassador John Kelley said “today’s meeting is a blatant attempt to distract” from the forthcoming emergency meeting of the General Assembly that will mark one-year since Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022.

“That is what our focus should be on,” he said. “Russia desperately wants to change the subject.” Russia is “abusing its position as a Council member” for using this platform to air internet conspiracy theories.

In addition, accusations that the US was involved in acts of sabotage “are completely false”, he said, pointing out that resources for UN investigations should be preserved when States are unwilling or unable to investigate, unlike the current ongoing inquiries.


Although briefed by a Russian-speaking American:


...preliminary results of the ongoing inquiries show “extensive damage”, signs of “gross sabotage” and “foreign items” seized at the site.

While some Council members supported the launch of a UN-led inquiry, others emphasized that ongoing inquiries are enough...

Ms. DiCarlo said that while exactly what happened beneath the waters of the Baltic Sea in September 2022 is still unclear, “one thing is certain: whatever caused the incident, its fallout counts among the many risks the invasion of Ukraine has unleashed”.

One year since the start of the war, she said, “we must redouble our efforts to end it, in line with international law and the UN Charter”.



Nice dance around a pre-planned act of war, whose cover was blown by the President on national tv, even though what is coming out are signs of "desperation" from "the internet"...pabulum-puking f*ktard. Remember, only most of the citizens and a great deal of Congress despise this regime, which is because it is despicable.

Nine years since opening fire on Donbass, efforts are being re-doubled to end it.

Tintin
23rd February 2023, 10:54
"Unfortunately, there is no other way for us to attain the truth. Those so-called investigations by Scandinavian states and Germany not only lack transparency, but, and this has become obvious by now, are aimed at covering up the tracks and exculpating the big American brother. We are not allowed to partake, and all our requests are ignored with arrogance. By the way, it is rather weird that the states who conduct the investigations have not requested to act as briefers today." - Vassily Nebenzia, Feb 21st 2023

Published February 21st:

Statement by Permanent Representative Vassily Nebenzia at UNSC briefing on threats to international peace and security (sabotage of Nord Stream gas pipeline)

Source: https://russiaun.ru/en/news/210223_n

Mme.President,

Today we have gathered here for a very remarkable meeting. It is somewhat assonant with the previous meeting regarding the act of sabotage against the Nord Stream pipe that we called on 30 September last year, yet this meeting is completely different by its tone. As many of you surely remember, back then it was already clear who may be standing behind that act of international terrorism (for this is how we qualify this incident), and Russian investigative bodies started criminal proceedings under a corresponding Article of Russia’s Criminal Code. US leadership made some statements which boil down to one message – if Russia kept doing what the United States does not like, the Nord Stream would be destroyed. Then, rather inopportunely, former Foreign Minister of Poland Sikorski (who clearly knew something) got in the spotlight, having thanked the United States on social media in a paroxysm of Russophobia. Add to this a rather indiscreet text message by former head of the British Government L.Truss, who is also known for her fierce hatred to my country. Yet formally, the United States strongly denied its involvement, realizing prospective consequences of such sabotage of critical international pipeline infrastructure. They still do, by the way.

Since then, the malevolence of Washington’s officials has increased, not in the least thanks to another famous Russophobe, “godmother” of the anti-constitutional coup in Ukraine V.Nuland. However, we would not be convening this meeting only because of this. The thing is that on 8 February, thanks to a prominent American investigative journalist and Pulitzer Prize winner S.Hersh, we not only learned the whos, but also the hows. We came to know how the US did this with help from Norway, its ally in NATO. Proceeding from facts and testimonies by eyewitnesses, he convincingly proves that during NATO’s BALTOPS exercise in summer 2022, divers from US Navy planted explosives under the pipes, which were detonated by the Norwegians three months later, on 26 September 2022. So now we know with a high degree of certainty not only who blew up our gas pipe, and also how they did it. Basically, these facts allow us to say that this was a use of force carried out in a way that is incompatible with the goals of the UN Charter.

In this statement, I will not go further into details of S.Hersh’s topline investigation, because our two briefers, J.Sachs and R.McGovern, have covered those extensively. I will only say that the depth of information that he has collected is truly striking. His previous professional expertise and uncompromising integrity leave us no doubt that this American journalist is telling the truth.

What is also striking is the level of cynicism and all-out sense of impunity with which this unprecedented crime was committed. We have got accustomed to the fact that our American colleagues position themselves above the law or rather pretend that they are the law, which they think gives them the right to interfere in internal affairs of states without retribution, carry out anti-constitutional coups, take aggressive action against independent states (I remind that by estimates of the US Congressional Research Service, since the end of the Cold War, the US has used its armed forces abroad on 251 occasions), kill and torture peaceful population in third countries while refusing to commit the perpetrators to international justice. With their allies singing along, they call it “rules-based order”, where the rules are set by themselves.

However before now, they never went as low as to blow up foreign pipelines that are owned by states with which the US was not at war. Well, this day has come. Maybe, it presages a new era, in which cross-border and trans-continental infrastructure will become a legitimate target for operations aimed at weakening of some or other states. As you can imagine, this would be an era of chaos and unspeakable harm to the entire humanity. Odds are huge that this era may truly come, unless those responsible for the sabotage of the Nord Stream are identified and held duly accountable. And unless those who masterminded this crime reimburse for the damage that occurred with the affected states – the way international law (and basic principles of justice) see it. Then and only then we will have a chance to avoid this chaos. All is in our hands, and the choice is being made i.a today, at this very meeting of the Security Council.

Mr.President,

Contrary to what our former Western partners are about to say, we do not spread disinformation in the Security Council, and do not ty to make a guilty verdict based on allegations in the “highly likely” spirit. This is something British representatives did five years ago when they made an unconvincing attempt to accuse us of the poisoning of the Skripals which was based only on allegations and speculations neither of which had anything to do with facts or common sense. With the Nord Stream sabotage, neither the motive of the crime nor the perpetrators or the method raise any doubts. This is even more than the “smoking gun” that detectives always dream to find in Hollywood blockbuster movies. With such evidence, no lawyer would venture to defend our American colleagues in court, and predicting the jury verdict would be a no-brainer.

But we have not gathered here to have a trial. As you know, we put forward a draft UNSC resolution that tasks the Secretary-General to carry out an independent international investigation, and double-check the facts that S.Hersh and other independent journalists cite.

We have to do this, because we have strong reasons to doubt the effectiveness, transparency, and impartiality of investigations that are being carried out under some national jurisdictions. We do not see our partners being eager to cooperate. We have taken note of the letter by Permanent Representatives of Germany, Denmark, and Sweden saying that the authorities of these states had informed Russia on the progress of the investigation. Things are different in reality. Leaders of the states in question ignored the communications that Prime Minister of Russia, M.Mishustin, addressed to them in October 2022 regarding participation of relevant Russian agencies and PJSC Gazprom in the investigations. Relevant requests of the General Prosecutor’s Office of the Russian Federation were declined. Since we talk about a crime that was committed by means of an explosive device, which makes it subject to the International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings of 15 December 1997, we expect that all states that have to do with the incident, namely the US, Norway, Denmark, and Sweden, will fulfil their obligations under this document. But leadership of these states do not show any political will or rather do not have any.

Unfortunately, there is no other way for us to attain the truth. Those so-called investigations by Scandinavian states and Germany not only lack transparency, but, and this has become obvious by now, are aimed at covering up the tracks and exculpating the big American brother. We are not allowed to partake, and all our requests are ignored with arrogance. By the way, it is rather weird that the states who conduct the investigations have not requested to act as briefers today. With other meetings, there is no end to those willing to take the floor. Of course, we do not and cannot have any trust in them. But we still do have trust in the Secretary-General and hope that you do too. That is why we suggest that he should be tasked with this investigation.

We circulated as official documents of the Security Council and General Assembly an address of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation that contains a corresponding request, and also verbal notes on that matter that our respective embassies addressed to Foreign Ministries of Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and the US. Everyone who wants to can read those documents.

If our American colleagues indeed have nothing to fear and if they do not doubt that their fellow citizen was all wrong, then the US does not risk anything, of which we will soon be able to make sure. In such case, we will strive to identify and hold accountable whoever it was that encroached on international peace and security by their actions. So, we look forward to having our proposal supported. These days, experts are in the middle of discussing our draft. After the first round, however, we are inclined to think that Western experts are not interested in an objective international investigation, which but substantiates our suspicion.

Colleagues, your approach to our proposed draft resolution, your interest (or the lack of it) in searching for the perpetrators and holding them accountable will define our further steps in the context of the act of sabotage that took place. We very much want to believe that you will not disappoint us or your own people and will help to establish the truth as prescribed by the Charter of this Organization.

Thank you.

ExomatrixTV
23rd February 2023, 22:14
Rising INTERVIEWS SEYMOUR HERSH: Journalist DEFENDS Reporting on US DESTRUCTION of Nord Stream:

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Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh breaks down his report that claimed the Biden administration is behind last summer's Nord Stream pipelines explosion.

onawah
24th February 2023, 03:24
What Russia's Energy Exports Means for Europe--Chris Martensen
2/23/23 Chris Martenson
https://sovren.media/video/what-russia-s-energy-exports-means-for-europe-2537.html

I could never get embedding Sovern videos right, but hopefully someone will do it for us.


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I found a youtube version Onawah:heart:

ExomatrixTV
26th February 2023, 20:40
Russia & China Demand UN Investigation Into Nord Stream Bombing:

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On the heels of Seymour Hersh’s bombshell report accusing the United States of teaming with Norway to blow a hole in the Nord Stream pipeline, Russia’s Vladimir Putin, backed by China’s XI Jinping, has called for a United Nations investigation into the act of international sabotage. As a result, even the Washington Post has been forced to mention Hersh’s report, suggesting that the virtual radio silence on Hersh’s allegations in the U.S. corporate media may be breaking. Guest host Aaron Maté and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the likelihood of a genuine investigation into the bombing ever occurring.

ExomatrixTV
2nd March 2023, 23:08
Seymour Hersh Says He Knew Mainstream Media Wouldn’t Dare Report On CIA Nord Stream Plot:

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Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh breaks down his report that claimed the Biden administration is behind last summer's Nord Stream pipelines explosion.

mizo
7th March 2023, 19:15
This news-story gets even more bizarre!
https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1633150375896203267

According to German news outlet ZEIT ONLINE report, Secret operation to sabotage Nord Stream pipelines was carried out by a team of 6 people, who rented a yacht from a company based in Poland, owned by two Ukrainians.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1633170108804747265

shaberon
8th March 2023, 05:39
Oh that is slick.

Six people on a rented yacht can penetrate Europe's ultimate Naval protection and go that far underwater with those kind of bombs. Excuse me, two people actually diving with those. Blows away concrete and steel pipe, must be 9/11 tech.

Is the ARD capital studio something we need to know about? Has the crime finally been solved because Mr. Hersh said something that sounds more physically possible?? It was re-printed in the NYT, so, our first instinct is that this is supposed to be taken seriously by the type of folk who prefer believing their own lies.

mizo
8th March 2023, 17:05
Germany pulls away from the conflict to save face?

https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1633512401906663424

mountain_jim
8th March 2023, 18:29
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1633510436095107087?s=20

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Gwin Ru
8th March 2023, 18:52
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... aren't the USA's puppeteers and their puppets the biggest, best equipped pro-Ukrainian group there is?

Bill Ryan
8th March 2023, 23:17
On Sputnik News:

https://sputniknews.com/20230308/kremlin-new-reports-on-nord-stream-attacks-are-part-of-coordinated-disinformation-campaign-1108164746.html

Kremlin: New Reports on Nord Stream Attacks Are Part of a Coordinated Disinformation Campaign

(extract from longer article)

Earlier this month, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov pledged in an interview with Sputnik that Russia would not allow an investigation into the terror attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines to be swept under the rug.

Media reports about the attacks on Russia's Nord Stream pipelines are part of a coordinated spread of disinformation and an attempt to divert attention from the real perpetrators, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Sputnik on Wednesday.

"Obviously, the authors of the terrorist attack want to divert attention. This is obviously a coordinated spread of disinformation in the media," Peskov said, commenting on the Western media reports.

ExomatrixTV
9th March 2023, 21:04
Hidden Meanings In New York Times Nord Stream 'Revelations':

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On Tuesday the New York Times published an incendiary story - based on anonymous Biden Administration officials - that the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines was carried out not by the US military, as Seymore Hersh has discovered, but rather by Ukrainian forces not associated with President Zelensky. Why put out such a transparently bogus counter-narrative? Many reasons. Also today: more revelations about Fauci's malfeasance come out in House Covid hearings. Finally - what does yesterday's Syria vote mean?

Bill Ryan
10th March 2023, 13:40
More comedy. :):facepalm:

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/47547

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Bill Ryan
10th March 2023, 20:21
Astonishingly, there's a CNN-News18* livestream with Seymour Hersh that's on air right now and has been running for over 90 minutes. I've only just started in on it, so I don't know what's discussed or presented — but the lengthy descriptor for the news piece, copied below, is impressive and speaks to the news channel's position.

*This isn't the US version of CNN, but an affiliate that addresses news from India, has an Indian audience, and is Indian managed.

Journalist Who Blamed U.S. For Nord Stream Blast | Seymour Hersh Interview | U.S. News Live


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYlmFD3kmvo
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Hersh is a well-respected investigative journalist with a long track record of exposing U.S. military and intelligence operations.

The recent report by the New York Times claiming that a pro-Ukraine group likely attacked the Nord Stream gas pipelines last September needs to be taken with a grain of salt. The report is a feeble attempt to deflect the blame from the United States, which is itself under scanner for its role in the brazen attacks following an earlier report by independent investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.

The NYT report, published Tuesday, suggests that the alleged attackers from the pro-Ukraine group likely comprised of Ukrainians or Russians, but the report also comes with a disclaimer that "there are no firm conclusions."

It is quite evident that the NYT report is a political "hit job" by Washington to salvage its reputation following Hersh's investigative report that implicates the U.S. for the Nord Stream pipeline attacks. Hersh's report, published last month, alleges that the clandestine underwater bombings were ordered by the White House and carried out utilizing American and Norwegian assets.

In the current geopolitical scenario, where the U.S. is trying to save face and salvage its relations with Germany and Europe, whose interests were hit the worst by the Nord Stream pipeline bombings, the hogwash offered by the NYT is not surprising. It is an effort by the U.S. to divert public attention, avoid a proper investigation of its own role and shift blame onto others – a common tactic used by Washington to manipulate the narrative.

U.S. creates 'false flags' in 'battle of narratives'

The U.S. is known for falsifying facts to win the battle of narratives. It has a long history of using false information to justify its military interventions and to promote its interests in various parts of the world. In recent times, the U.S. has been exposed for fabricating intelligence reports to justify the invasion of Iraq and its involvement in the Syrian conflict.

The U.S. also has a long history of intervening in the energy policies of other countries to promote its interests. The Nord Stream pipelines, which run from Russia to Germany, have been a source of tension between the U.S. and Europe for years. The U.S. has been pressuring Germany to abandon the Nord Stream project and instead buy liquefied natural gas from the U.S. Washington always saw the Nord Stream project as a threat to its own energy dominance in Europe and wanted to undermine it.

The damage to the Nord Stream pipelines has been a major blow to Europe's energy security. The pipelines were attacked just as the winter season was about to begin, and Europe was already facing a shortage of natural gas. The U.S., which is not a major player in the natural gas market, benefitted from the situation as it used the opportunity to sell more gas to Europe and to weaken Russia's energy dominance.

Dennis Leahy
10th March 2023, 20:46
"...based on one, single, unidentified source..." The reporter is running a hit piece on Hersh. Kill the messenger. Spin. At least he allows Hersh to talk.

ExomatrixTV
13th March 2023, 00:54
The People Know But The White House Denied They Are Involved In The Bombing 🤫💣 - Seymour Hersh

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On 26 September 2022, a series of clandestine bombings and subsequent underwater gas leaks occurred on the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipelines. The pipelines were built to transport natural gas from Russia to Germany through the Baltic Sea, and are majority owned by Gazprom. The mainstream narrative claims the perpetrators and the motives were at best unknown and open to debate. But, not as far as today’s guest is concerned. He is something of a legendary figure in the world of news reporting and has spent much of the last 50 years elbow-deep in some of the biggest and oftentimes most controversial stories of the day. I’m talking of course about Seymour Hersh, the investigative journalist, political writer and author, who among his many accolades was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for international reporting. Seymour believes that the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines was carried out by the US Navy, the CIA, and the Norwegian Navy, under the direct order of President Biden. To say this has caused a stir in the corridors of power would be something of an understatement.

Kryztian
13th March 2023, 01:46
https://i.imgur.com/oBej3xh.jpg

ExomatrixTV
13th March 2023, 18:20
Tulsi Gabbard: They've Been Lying To Us All Along

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ExomatrixTV
14th March 2023, 00:16
FALSE FLAG? Germany IMMEDIATELY Dismisses NYT's Nord Stream Report Blaming 'Pro-Ukraine' Group:

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Editorial director Kelley Valhos weighs in on positions surrounding who sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines.

ExomatrixTV
16th March 2023, 13:29
Russell Brand Claims US Blew Up Nord Stream In ENERGY SCHEME, Putin DISMANTLES Pipeline 'NONSENSE':

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Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave talk about Russian President Vladimir Putin's comment that the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines were not conducted by a pro-Ukraine group.

thepainterdoug
16th March 2023, 14:33
I watched the above video with Russell Brand. I am beyond disgusted with this illegal corrupt occupying admin sitting in the W H serving the deep state MIPMC complex,( Military, Industrial ,Pharma, Media complex), along with the complete collapse of the rule of law both domestically and internationally in all areas.
What else do we have as a civilized race of people both nationally and abroad? How is common sense and goodness preserved among people?

Can you imagine the things we hear, that are rationalized away and we are asked to dismiss? Right in front of millions of people Biden and Newland say, they will end Nordstream if Russia goes into Ukraine. THEY SAY IT! OUTLOUD !
And yet somehow, the biden owned media says, we didn't do it , someone else did, and the sleepers nod their heads in agreement.

How about at a town meeting I say Im going to cut down that big tree in my neighbors back yard. And then asked how can I do it, I say, I have a way to, and will do it. Then the tree is found cut down, and I have a chainsaw sitting in my yard. Im the one who said I will do it, and I am the one who has the means.

Then the town blames it on a guy in another neighborhood with no motive ,evidence and everyone somehow believes thats who did it.
Thats where we are at!!!!!!!

John Hilton
16th March 2023, 14:50
It seems fairly certain that the UK had a hand in the pipeline destruction, judging by the cryptic message that PM Truss sent. (Something like "It's done".) Also the story about the yacht is easily debunked. It's not big enough to carry the necessary explosives and other equipment and it couldn't have avoided detection.

shaberon
17th March 2023, 08:01
Can you imagine the things we hear, that are rationalized away and we are asked to dismiss? Right in front of millions of people Biden and Newland say, they will end Nordstream if Russia goes into Ukraine. THEY SAY IT! OUTLOUD !



Yes, they do say some terrible things.

And, they have millions of followers who do not care if it was what it was.

In fact, many of them are probably quite relieved that it became a "tremendous opportunity".

They are short-sighted at best.

When questions are asked, we sure do see a lot of stonewalling. And, of course, there is a lot of simple mis-direction. Along these lines, here are some snippets from Zuesse (https://southfront.org/the-transformative-present-moment-in-history/) because:


This article had been submitted to all paying media as an exclusive and was rejected by each of them without comment. It thus may be freely posted in its entirety anywhere, and quoted anywhere, with credit to Eric Zuesse as being its author.



As to the grand strategy:

Regime-change in America is likelier than regime-change in either Russia or China is. (Of course, U.S.-and-allied ‘news’-media suppress, instead of publicize, this key reality; however, they cannot deny this reality, because the facts cannot be denied but can merely be hidden — as is done. And, then, publics in U.S.-and-allied countries vote on that basis, and this becomes ‘democracy’ in “The West.”)



There apparently is a dispute because the DOD is afraid this might set a precedent for problems for Americans. What was said is:

On 8 March 2023, the New York Times headlined “Pentagon Blocks Sharing Evidence of Possible Russian War Crimes With Hague Court: President Biden has not acted to resolve a dispute that pits the Defense Department against other agencies.”


which is irrelevant because:


...neither Russia, nor Ukraine, nor the U.S., has ratified the Rome Statute of 1998, which established the ICC, so none of the three Governments is a “State Party to” it; so none can be tried in that Court.



Consequently, President Biden’s decision, if and when he makes it, will actually be purely a propaganda-decision, not one pertaining to the alleged topic in that NYT article.



...in order for lies to stand, what is essential is to censor-out truths that contradict those lies. And that’s what is being done throughout the U.S.-and-‘allied’ sphere. It’s what Michael Shellenberger aptly described and documented, in detail, to the U.S. Congress, on 9 March 2023, as being America’s actual “Censorship-Industrial Complex (https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/shellenberger-testimony.pdf)” — it’s necessary that those truths will not be reported. And so, they aren’t. As Shellenberger said, referring to the United States, in his testimony’s penultimate paragraph (p. 53), “No corporation in the world should have such extraordinary powers to both deny American citizens their free speech rights and their ability to sue to redress the harm they [those corporations] cause [by denying that right].” It’s not just “free speech” but the right to know, that America’s dictators are choking off. He documented that the U.S. Constitution’s First Amendment effectively no longer exists, whenever U.S. officials prefer it not to — it is mere ink on paper, it’s a statement of U.S. propaganda, not of the U.S. Government’s actual policy. Censorship has come to be imposed by a public-private partnership in which the dictators don’t do it directly but hire the personnel and approve the algorithms that then automatically do it, so as to shape public opinions — regardless of the reality.



That links to a 60-page report that Congress was forced to endure. It says something like if the taxpayers quit supporting censorship, then it will fall to the likes of Soros...which is still damaging, just not as much, and without violating the Constitution.

By rebutting Hersh with one of the looniest fantasies ever printed, I think they may have stepped on their dogs a little bit, even French people thought it was silly.

If Hersh made up a figment, he was at least clever enough to consider the difficulty about making an underwater timer that could not be accidentally triggered by other electronics in the area. Comparatively, what could anyone really do with some explosion fragments?? There is an off chance that you could isolate a residue that must have come from a limited number of sources. Something like the police once told us about a threatening letter:


This was written with a Bic pen.

Otherwise I think it might be difficult for the evidence to tell much of a story.

ExomatrixTV
22nd March 2023, 22:52
How America destroyed the Nord Stream pipelines w/Seymour Hersh:

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Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines? In February, veteran journalist and Pulitzer Prize-winner Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell report detailing how President Joe Biden ordered the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines. Seymour Hersh joins The Chris Hedges Report to explain his report, and why corporate media and the US government are so intent on dismissing him.

Bill Ryan
23rd March 2023, 13:10
An important new article by Seymour Hersh, published yesterday:


https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/the-cover-up

THE COVER-UP

The Biden Administration continues to conceal its responsibility for the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines

It’s been six weeks since I published a report (https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream), based on anonymous sourcing, naming President Joe Biden as the official who ordered the mysterious destruction last September of Nord Stream 2, a new $11-billion pipeline that was scheduled to double the volume of natural gas delivered from Russia to Germany. The story gained traction in Germany and Western Europe, but was subject to a near media blackout in the US. Two weeks ago, after a visit by German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to Washington, US and German intelligence agencies attempted to add to the blackout by feeding the New York Times and the German weekly Die Zeit false cover stories to counter the report that Biden and US operatives were responsible for the pipelines’ destruction.

Press aides for the White House and Central Intelligence Agency have consistently denied that America was responsible for exploding the pipelines, and those pro forma denials were more than enough for the White House press corps. There is no evidence that any reporter assigned there has yet to ask the White House press secretary whether Biden had done what any serious leader would do: formally “task” the American intelligence community to conduct a deep investigation, with all of its assets, and find out just who had done the deed in the Baltic Sea. According to a source within the intelligence community, the president has not done so, nor will he. Why not? Because he knows the answer.

Sarah Miller—an energy expert and an editor at Energy Intelligence, which publishes leading trade journals—explained to me in an interview why the pipeline story has been big news in Germany and Western Europe. “The destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines in September led to a further surge of natural gas prices that were already six or more times pre-crisis levels,” she said. “Nord Stream was blown up in late September. German gas imports peaked a month later, in October, at 10 times pre-crisis levels. Electricity prices across Europe were pulled up, and governments spent as much as 800 billion euros, by some estimates, shielding households and businesses from the impact. Gas prices, reflecting the mild winter in Europe, have now fallen back to roughly a quarter of the October peak, but they are still between two and three times pre-crisis levels and are more than three times current US rates.

Over the last year, German and other European manufacturers closed their most energy-intensive operations, such as fertilizer and glass production, and it’s unclear when, if ever, those plants will reopen. Europe is scrambling to get solar and wind capacity in place, but it may not come soon enough to save large chunks of German industry.” (Miller writes a blog (https://medium.com/@sarahmiller_22747) on Medium.)

In early March, President Biden hosted German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Washington. The trip included only two public events—a brief pro forma exchange of compliments between Biden and Scholz before the White House press corps, with no questions allowed; and a CNN interview with Scholz by Fareed Zakaria, who did not touch on the pipeline allegations. The chancellor had flown to Washington with no members of the German press on board, no formal dinner scheduled, and the two world leaders were not slated to conduct a press conference, as routinely happens at such high-profile meetings.

Instead, it was later reported that Biden and Scholz had an 80-minute meeting, with no aides present for much of the time. There have been no statements or written understandings made public since then by either government, but I was told by someone with access to diplomatic intelligence that there was a discussion of the pipeline exposé and, as a result, certain elements in the Central Intelligence Agency were asked to prepare a cover story in collaboration with German intelligence that would provide the American and German press with an alternative version for the destruction of Nord Stream 2. In the words of the intelligence community, the agency was “to pulse the system” in an effort to discount the claim that Biden had ordered the pipelines’ destruction.

At this point, it must be noted that Chancellor Scholz, whether or not he was alerted of the destruction of the pipeline in advance—still an open question—has clearly been complicit since last fall in support of the Biden Administration’s cover-up of its operation in the Baltic Sea.

The agency did its job and, with the help of German intelligence, concocted and planted stories about an ad hoc “off the books” operation that had led to the destruction of the pipelines. The scam had two elements: a March 7 report (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/07/us/politics/nord-stream-pipeline-sabotage-ukraine.html) in the New York Times citing an anonymous American official claiming that “[n]ew intelligence…suggests” that “a pro-Ukrainian group” may have been involved in the pipeline’s destruction; and a report (https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2023-03/nordstream-2-ukraine-anschlag) the same day in Der Zeit, Germany’s most widely read weekly newspaper, stating that German investigative officials had tracked down a chartered luxury sailing yacht that was known to have set off on September 6 from the German port at Rostock past Bornholm island off the coast of Denmark. The island is a few miles from the area where the pipelines were destroyed on September 26. The yacht had been rented from Ukrainian owners and manned by a party of six: a captain, two divers, two divers’ assistants, and a doctor. Five were men, and one a woman. False passports were involved.

The two publications included cautions in their stories noting that, as the Times put it, “there was much they did not know.” The new information was, however, also said to have given officials “increased . . . optimism” that a firm conclusion about the perpetrators would be reached. But it would take a long time, according to various senior officials in Washington and Germany. The message was that the press and the public should stop asking questions and let the investigators unravel the truth. Which, of course, would never come. Holger Stark, the author of the report in Die Zeit, went a step further and noted that there were some “in international security services” who had not excluded the possibility that the yacht story “was a false flag operation.” Indeed, it was.

“It was a total fabrication by American intelligence that was passed along to the Germans, and aimed at discrediting your story,” I was told by a source within the American intelligence community. The disinformation professionals inside the CIA understand that a propaganda gambit can only work if those on receiving are desperate for a story that can diminish or displace an unwanted truth. And the truth in question is that President Joe Biden authorized the destruction of the pipelines and will have a difficult time explaining away his action as Germany and its Western European neighbors suffer as businesses are shuttered amid high day-to-day energy costs.

Ironically, the most telling evidence about the weakness of the New York Times report came from one of three Times reporters whose bylines were on the story. A few days after publication of the story, the reporter, Julian Barnes, was interviewed on the popular Times podcast The Daily by host Michael Barbaro. Here’s the transcript:
HOST: Who exactly was responsible for this attack? And how did you and our colleagues go about figuring that out?
REPORTER: Well, I think what happened was for much of the investigation, we weren’t asking exactly the right questions.
HOST: Hmm. And what were the right questions?
REPORTER: Well, we had logically been focused on countries.
HOST: Mm-hmm.
REPORTER: All those states that we just went through, did Russia do it? Did the Ukraine state do it? And that was just hitting dead end after dead end. We weren’t finding officials who were telling us that there was credible evidence pointing at a government. So my colleagues Adam Entous, Adam Goldman, and I started asking a different question. Could this have been done by non-state actors?
HOST: Hmm.
REPORTER: Could this have been done by a group of individuals who were not working for a government?
HOST: Kind of like freelance saboteurs. So where did you take this new question?
REPORTER: Well, we started asking, who might these saboteurs be? Or if we couldn’t answer that, who might they be aligned with? Could they be pro-Russian saboteurs? Could they be other saboteurs? And the more we talk to officials who had access to intelligence, the more we saw this theory gaining traction.
HOST: Mm-hmm.
REPORTER: And my initial thought that this could be pro-Russian saboteurs turned out to be wrong. And we learned that it was most likely a pro-Ukrainian group.
HOST: Hmm. So in other words, a group of people who did this on behalf of Ukraine. What do you learn that makes you think that’s what happened?
REPORTER: Michael, I should be very clear that we know really very little, right? This group remains mysterious. And it remains mysterious not just to us, but also to the US government officials that we have spoken to. They know that the people involved were either Ukrainian, or Russian, or a mix. They know that they are not affiliated with the Ukrainian government. But they know they’re also anti-Putin and pro-Ukraine.
HOST: So after all this investigative reporting, what you find is that the culprit here is a group of people who want the same thing as Ukraine, but aren’t officially tied to the government of Ukraine. But I’m curious how certain you are that these individuals are not connected to the Ukrainian government?
REPORTER: Well, the intelligence right now says they’re not. And while officials are telling us that the president of Ukraine and his key advisors did not know, we can’t be certain that that’s true or that somebody else didn’t know.
The Times reporters in Washington were at the mercy of White House officials “who had access to intelligence.” But the information they received originated with a group of CIA experts in deception and propaganda whose mission was to feed the newspaper a cover story—and to protect a president who made an unwise decision and is now lying about it.

ExomatrixTV
23rd March 2023, 18:12
Nord Stream Cover Up? Sy Hersh Says US PLANTED Fake Story to Discredit His Reporting

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Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave discuss journalist Seymour Hersh's latest reporting on the Nord Stream pipelines attack.

Ravenlocke
10th April 2023, 13:43
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1645398582097223681

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https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1645398586543284224

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Kryztian
12th April 2023, 21:03
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Ravenlocke
20th April 2023, 14:51
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ExomatrixTV
24th April 2023, 11:58
Twitter Files Author EXPOSES Major Nord Stream Censorship On Meta: Brie & Robby

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Journalist Michael Shellenberger discusses his finding that Facebook appears to be censoring long-time investigative reporter Seymour Hersh.

onawah
27th April 2023, 03:23
More Facts Uncovered In U.S. Bombing of Nord Stream
4/26/23
Kim Iversen
534K subscribers
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"Patrick Henningsen, Political analyst and producer of @21st Wire,TNT radio, joins Kim to discuss Sy Hersh’s reporting on Nordstream bombing with additional facts that support his reporting on the US involvement of the bombing.

Read the Article here: https://21stcenturywire.com/2023/04/2...

You can find Patrick’s work on: https://tntradiolive.podbean.com/cate... "

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gini
27th April 2023, 14:00
JOSE VEGA CONFRONT EXEC. EDITORS OF NYTIMES, WASH POST, LA TIMES AND REUTERS--/Dsimd9gmaRVS/

Ravenlocke
3rd May 2023, 13:33
https://twitter.com/ricwe123/status/1653704212256026625

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22nd May 2023, 19:10
https://twitter.com/_emergent_/status/1660440046262992896?s=20

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Kim Dotcom
@KimDotcom
EXCLUSIVE from a #NordStreamSabotage whistleblower:

I am writing to you as a concerned citizen of the world, wishing for a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine. My identity is not of importance. What matters is the sharing of my story so that the world can understand the truth about the Nord Stream Sabotage, thereby moving forward without lies or inaccuracies.

As many of you may know, a series of clandestine bombings and subsequent underwater gas leaks occurred on the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipelines on September 26, 2022.

While there has been much speculation about the nature of this sabotage, I aim to provide additional details and facts that will give a clearer picture.

Before the attacks on September 11, 2001, I started working with contractors at the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab in Maryland. We were working on the Advanced Seal Delivery System (ASDS), a covert mini-submarine designed for the Navy Seals to carry out stealthy clandestine missions. This submarine is transported on the back of nuclear submarines and detaches to execute its missions.

I was chosen to work on this project, and my role was to assist in the programming of the full-sized, temperature-controlled simulator for the submarine on which the Navy Seals would train. The simulator featured screens that displayed a 3D simulation of the ASDS undocking from a nuclear submarine, executing its mission, and then returning to dock.

I spent countless hours in the simulator, ensuring everything functioned as specified. I piloted the simulator on simulated missions, just like the Navy Seal pilots would before their actual missions. Even in 2001, we had the ability to program a variety of scenarios, including the sabotaging of pipelines. Although I did not pilot a simulated mission specifically for the Nord Stream pipelines, I did simulate scenarios of covertly sabotaging pipelines. I can confirm that the United States has had this capability for decades, and the ASDS is in the US inventory, fully capable of executing the Nord Stream Sabotage.

Publicly available radar evidence from http://flightradar24.com helps shine light on how the Nordstream sabotage was conducted. As exposed by Seymour Hersh, the explosives were planted during the Baltops 22 maritime exercises. Although speculation remains as to the exact method of explosives placement, I believe that the modern Advanced Seal Delivery System (ASDS) was utilized with Navy divers. This mirrors the way I would have conducted the mission in the simulator.

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ExomatrixTV
26th May 2023, 11:22
Jeffrey Sachs on Rising: NYT LYING About Nord Stream, Ukraine To Readers:

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Director of the Center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University Jeffrey Sachs weighs in on theories surrounding the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines.

Kryztian
5th June 2023, 19:12
Max Blumenthal attends the "Diversity in National Security Panel" (yes, this really is a thing :facepalm:) whose job it is to make military violence more "woke", and introduces himself "Hello, Max Blumenthal, the Grey Zone, my pronouns are Trump, Russia." He asks a few questions but the zinger is: "Do you happen to know if any non-binary U.S. Navy divers were used in blowing up the Nord Stream Pipeline?"

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ExomatrixTV
15th July 2023, 11:39
Tucker Carlson To Nikki Haley: "Who Blew Up The Nord Stream Pipeline?"

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17:15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUpUB4BlCM8&t=1035s)

ExomatrixTV
18th July 2023, 23:08
Tucker Exposes Nikki Haley Over Nord Stream Pipeline:

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At the recent Family Leadership Summit in Des Moines, Iowa, moderator Tucker Carlson asked candidate Nikki Haley who was responsible for the Nord Stream pipeline bombing. Haley had no answer, nor did she even seem interested in finding out if GOP arch-nemesis Joe Biden was the culprit and had potentially seriously damaged the United States’ relations with European allies.

Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the haplessness of Haley and other Republican candidated when confronted with basic questions by Tucker Carlson.

ExomatrixTV
22nd July 2023, 00:06
LEAKED FOOTAGE: General McChrystal Claims USA Was Behind Nord Stream Pipeline Bombing

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In this short clip, Patrick Bet-David shares shocking information he received showing footage of a military 4-start general, claiming the U.S. was behind the Nord Stream pipeline bombing.

thepainterdoug
22nd July 2023, 02:36
Didnt the Victoria Nuland, Joe Biden clip explain all when they simply stated when asked that yes, they can stop the pipeline?

I mean, how much more did someone need to hear?

Bill Ryan
28th August 2023, 11:55
This may or may not be significant, but it seems worth reporting:

The text:
BREAKING: Footage obtained by Valuetainment captures General Stan McChrystal (Ret.) confirming neither Russia or Ukraine blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. "United States made more money off that deal than anybody else."

https://twitter.com/ValuetainmentTV/status/1682134130513920004
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Kryztian
26th September 2023, 17:10
Biden was more interested in destroying the German economy than the Russian economy, and had planned the pipeline bombing long before the Ukraine war started, per Seymour Hersh's latest revelation.

US intel knew Biden planned to blow up Nord Stream prior to Ukraine conflict – Hersh
The CIA was ready to sabotage the pipelines as early as last January, intelligence sources told the veteran reporter
https://www.rt.com/news/583590-biden-nord-stream-plan-hersh

US President Joe Biden initially planned on destroying the Nord Stream gas pipelines to deter Russia from launching its military operation in Ukraine, American journalist Seymour Hersh reported on Tuesday. However, Hersh alleged that the sabotage operation went ahead later not to deter Russia, but to damage the German economy.

The Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines, which connected Russia and Germany through the Baltic Sea, were destroyed in a series of underwater explosions exactly a year ago on Tuesday. Competing theories have emerged as to who was to blame, with mainstream media in the West blaming a Ukrainian commando unit and Seymour Hersh claiming that the CIA carried out the operation under direct orders from Biden.

In a blog post on Tuesday, Hersh alleged that US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan convened a series of meetings in late 2021, tasking intelligence officials with coming up with a means of deterring Russian President Vladimir Putin from sending troops into Ukraine.

"The White House’s policy was to deter Russia from an attack,” an intelligence source told Hersh. “The challenge it gave to the intelligence community was to come up with a way that was powerful enough to do that, and to make a strong statement of American capability.”

By January, as Russian forces were massing on the Ukrainian border, the CIA had “solved the problem,” the source said. With a plan in place to plant remotely-detonated explosives on the pipelines under the Baltic Sea, Biden warned in early February that in the event of military action by Russia, “there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

Following Biden’s statement, which was delivered alongside German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, the CIA team tasked with sabotaging the pipelines received new orders, Hersh claimed. Instead of immediately destroying Nord Stream, the team was instructed to plant the explosives for detonation at a later date.

“It was then that we understood that the attack on the pipelines was not a deterrent because as the war went on we never got the command,” a member of the team told Hersh.

“We realized that the destruction of the two Russian pipelines was not related to the Ukrainian war,” the source continued. “But was part of a neocon political agenda to keep Scholz and Germany, with winter coming up and the pipelines shut down, from getting cold feet and opening up.”

According to Hersh’s earlier reporting, CIA divers planted the explosives last summer with the help of the Norwegian navy, using a NATO exercise in the region as cover. By the time the bombs were triggered in September, the flow of Russian gas to Germany via Nord Stream 1 had already been slowed to a trickle by Russia in response to Western sanctions, while Nord Stream 2 was never certified to begin operation by Scholz’s government. However, with the German economy heavily dependent on Russian gas, Biden reportedly feared that Scholz would choose reproachment with Moscow over support for Ukraine.

“The President of the United States would rather see Germany freeze than [see] Germany possibly stop supporting Ukraine,” Hersh declared earlier this year.

ExomatrixTV
13th November 2023, 17:26
Nord Stream: Tucker Carlson Was Right About Pipeline Explosion, Wapo Admits?:

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Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave discuss new development about the 2022 bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines.

Ravenlocke
7th February 2024, 21:32
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1755325558685393207

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https://www.rt.com/business/591994-sweden-ends-probe-nord-stream/

Sweden halts investigation into Nord Stream blasts – media

Swedish prosecutors say they will drop their investigation into the explosions that damaged the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines due to having failed to identify any likely suspects, the tabloid Aftonbladet has reported.

Built to deliver Russian natural gas directly to Germany via the Baltic Sea, the pipelines were rendered inoperable by a series of powerful explosions in international waters near the Danish island of Bornholm in September 2022. Germany, Sweden, and Denmark each launched their own national probes into the incident after failing to agree on a joint effort.

Swedish prosecutor Mats Ljungkvist, who led Stockholm's criminal investigation, was cited as saying that there was nothing to indicate that Sweden or its citizens were involved in the Nord Stream sabotage.

“The preliminary investigation has been systematic and thorough,” said the prosecutor, adding that “Among other things, a large number of ship movements have been analyzed in order to understand what has happened.”

“In addition to that, an extensive crime scene investigation has been carried out and several interrogations have been held in the matter." Ljungkvist said that as a result of these efforts it was concluded that Swedish jurisdiction did not apply in the case.

“The conclusion of the investigation is that Swedish jurisdiction does not apply and that the investigation therefore should be closed,” the Swedish Prosecution Authority was quoted as saying by Reuters.

Several leading German news outlets, including Suddeutsche Zeitung, NDR, WDR, and Zeit, had predicted that Sweden would close its investigation after failing to identify any suspects. The move will benefit German investigators, the news outlets said, because Sweden will be able to share evidence with them once its own case is closed.

“The German preliminary investigation continues and due to the secrecy, that prevails for international legal cooperation, I cannot comment further on the cooperation that has taken place,” Ljungkvist concluded.

ExomatrixTV
15th February 2024, 18:33
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ExomatrixTV
25th March 2024, 14:55
Sweden 🇸🇪 Closing Nordstream Investigation Shocking Cover Up:

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The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal interviews Erik Andersson, a Sweden-based engineer who led the first independent investigation to the site of the Nordstream pipelines blast sites on the Swedish government's sudden closing of the investigation into the terror attack on the eve of joining NATO.


Same Report in German 🇩🇪: NORD STREAM: Schweden stellt Ermittlungen ein - Schockierende Vertuschung:

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Max Blumenthal von The Grayzone interviewt Erik Andersson, einen in Schweden ansässigen Ingenieur, der die erste unabhängige Untersuchung der Explosionsstelle der Nordstream-Pipelines leitete, über die plötzliche Einstellung der Untersuchung des Terroranschlags durch die schwedische Regierung am Abend des NATO-Beitritts.

Dieses Video wurde von The Grayzone produziert und am 15. März 2024 auf ihrem YouTube-Kanal veröffentlicht. Wir haben es ins Deutsche übersetzt und veröffentlichen es heute erneut, um zur Meinungsbildung zu diesem Thema in Deutschland und darüber hinaus beizutragen.

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Ravenlocke
6th April 2024, 18:48
Text:

The names of the Ukrainian participants in the terrorist attack on Nord Stream have become known

❗️ The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation reported that it has sent requests to the competent authorities of the United States, Germany, France and Cyprus to investigate the terrorist attacks on the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines. This was preceded by an appeal to the State Duma of the Russian Federation by State Duma deputies to investigate the facts of the possible involvement of persons and structures in organizing and financing terrorist acts on the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as undermining the Nord Streams.

In their statement, the deputies named the names and surnames of the people who carried out the “cover operation” to divert suspicion from the United States and NATO member countries.

⚫️ According to deputies, the group was trained in a deep-sea quarry in the Zhytomyr region, after which it was transported to Romania. Afterwards the group was moved to Poland, where the Andromeda yacht was rented.

▪️ Group leader: Roman Chervinsky, he was also previously named by WaPo as the coordinator of the attack on gas pipelines. Since 2016, he served in the counterintelligence department, and in 2022 he became the commander of one of the units of the Special Operations Forces of Ukraine.

▪️ Group composition: it included 5 more people. Kuznetsov Sergey, officer of the department of environmental protection and civil protection of the Department of Environmental Safety and Mine Action of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

▪️ Burgomistrenko Anatoly, captain 1st rank, head of the intelligence department - deputy chief of staff of the Ukrainian Navy for intelligence, who was trained in mine demolition at the 131st MTR center.

▪️ Three people dived directly to the Nord Streams: Oleg Varava, senior inspector of the engineering and technical platoon of the rapid reaction company of the Main Directorate of the National Police in Kyiv, a female technical diver with the call sign “Marisha”, as well as Rudenko Rudenko with the call sign “Chaplain”, former deputy mayor of the Ukrainian city of Bila Tserkva.

✅ Previously, Rudenko served in the Belotserkovsky District Department of Internal Affairs of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. On the VKontakte page with the name Ruslan Rudenko from the city of Belaya Tserkov, you can see photographs of a man in diving equipment.
- Ostashko reports

https://x.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1776636024342429897

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🇺🇸🇺🇦🏴⚔️🇪🇺🇷🇺 ‼️ The names of the Ukrainian divers who covered up the Nord Stream pipeline rupture have been revealed.

According to the State Duma deputies' appeal to the Russian Prosecutor General's Office, the "cover-up operation" involved a group of divers under the control of the head of the Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate, Budanov.

Organizational and technical assistance was provided by US specialists under the direction of the Deputy Chief of Mission at the US Embassy in Kiev, K.W. Smith, with the involvement of the former head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine, Vasily Burba.

According to the MPs' version, the group was trained in a deep-water quarry in the Zhytomyr region and then transported to Romania. The training was carried out as close as possible to real conditions in the area of the offshore sections of the Southern Streams. The group then moved to Poland, where the yacht "Andromeda" was rented.

Team leader: Roman Czerwinski, previously named by WaPo as the coordinator of the pipeline attack. Since 2016, he served in the counterintelligence department, and in 2022 he became the commander of one of the units of the Special Forces of Ukraine.

The composition of the group: as sources of the authors of the statement said, the group included 5 other people. Sergey Anatolievich Kuznetsov, an officer in the environmental protection and civil defense department of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

Burgomistrenko Anatoliy Ivanovich, Captain 1st rank, Head of the Intelligence Department - Deputy Chief of Staff of the Ukrainian Military Fleet for Intelligence, who was trained in mine clearance.

Three people dived directly into the "Northern Streams": Varava Oleg Grigorievich, Senior Inspector of the Engineering and Technical Platoon of the Rapid Response Company of the Main Department of the National Police in Kiev, a female technodiver with the call sign "Marisha", and Rudenko Ruslan Anatolievich with the call sign "Chaplain".

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Ravenlocke
27th April 2024, 16:28
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‼️🇨🇳🇷🇺China is calling for the launch of an international investigation into the Nord Stream terrorist attack under the auspices of the UN.
This statement was made by the country's deputy permanent representative to the UN at a meeting of the organization's Security Council.
- RVvoenkor

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Tintin
15th May 2024, 13:24
A fascinating interview of Andrey Derkach on Belarussian TV shared by Simplicius on X (https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status/1790501399878353374) wherein the Bidens are clearly fingered, amongst others. We've also Seymour Hersh's February 2023 US whistleblower testimony (https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/2022_Russian_invasion_%28Operation-Z%29/Nord_Stream_2_pipeline_sabotage_September_2022/2023-02-08_How_America_Took_Out_The_Nord_Stream_Pipeline_-_Seymour_Hersh_February_08_2023.pdf) too which can be used in conjunction with this.

Who blew up Nord Streams?



"Former people's deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Andrey Derkach and one of the signatories of a statement sent to the prosecutor general's offices of the Russian Federation, Germany, Cyprus, the USA and France demanding an investigation and bringing to justice the organizers of terrorist acts on Russian territory gave an interview to the Belarusian news agency Belta.

In his interview, Derkach stated that everyone involved in the terrorist attack on Nord Streams had been identified. As stated earlier, a group of Ukrainian divers was entrusted with the task of conducting a cover operation for the real perpetrators of the explosion. It was supervised, organizational and technical assistance was provided by American specialists under the leadership of the deputy head of mission at the US Embassy in Kiev, Smith, and direct training of divers was carried out in the Zhytomyr region of Ukraine, as well as on the territory of Romania."

https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/2022_Russian_invasion_%28Operation-Z%29/Nord_Stream_2_pipeline_sabotage_September_2022/2024-05-15_Former_people%27s_deputy_of_the_Verkhovna_Rada_Andrey_Derkach_gave_an_interview_to_the_Belarusian _news_agency_Belta_concerning_perpetrators_of_the_Nord_Stream_sabotage.mp4


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"You will have a Rishi, on a little dishy, you will have a Rishi when the boat comes in!" (Dance to your daddy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuPa1Dbz3Uw&ab_channel=AntPDC))

Another reminder and I do hope little Rishi is paying attention :ROFL:

From September 27th, 2022:

https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/2022_Russian_invasion_%28Operation-Z%29/Nord_Stream_2_pipeline_sabotage_September_2022/Radek_Sikorski_MEP_tweet_Nord_Stream_2_pipeline_sabotage_Thank_You_USA_September_27_2022.PNG

onawah
16th May 2024, 00:39
Biden/burisma affiliates complicit in blowing up nord stream 2

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5/15/24
by toria brooke
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/biden-burisma-affiliates-complicit-in-blowing-up-nord-stream-2/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
https://rumble.com/v4v8a8q-biden-burisma-affiliates-complicit-in-blowing-up-nord-stream-2.html

"breaking former people’s deputy of ukraine andrii derkach says they have proof that biden family member affiliates, both burisma founders and employees, are complicit in the blowing up of nord stream 2 and other terrorist activity by way of at least a $50 million collective bribe.

According to derkach, a $6 million cash bribe was reportedly handed over to ukrainian law enforcement to shut down the investigation into burisma. $12 million was given to a drone army under secret court order.

The burisma lawyer who handed over the $6 million did it on camera. The other $12 million, according to derkach, was donated to a drone army under secret court ruling. The drone army reportedly kills people and does not target infrastructure facilities.

Derkach says that the chains of transactional records would lead investigators to believe that funds were used to supply american companies to send to the central intelligence office (gur).

The $6 million has been held as evidence, by a secret court order. The money was handed over to a military unit of the central intelligence office (gur) for the sake of carrying out terrorist activities. After that, derkach says, the nord stream explosions occurred, prilepin was attacked, darya dugina, daughter of far-right political activist aleksandr dugin, was assassinated.

Top officers of security agencies in ukraine—malyuk, budanov—they reportedly conduct interviews using extra-budgetary cash.

Derkach says all transactions of funds have been traced from burisma to morgan stanley to rosemont seneca, which is affiliated with and owned by hunter biden. U.s. Congress is using these documents to prove influence peddling.

The criminal case initiated in regard to burisma, actively investigated by prosecutor general shokin was not closed until 2020.

Derkach says all who have sponsored and participated in terrorism will be held accountable for their crimes."



if he wasn't (gas)lying i'd give him full marks for killing two birds with one stone.

I'm so detached from the msm official narrative these things shock me when i hear them. Are we really still at a place where the british public believe this reversed narrative ?

I hope not, because if we are, we are so screwed.

https://t.me/freedomdoc1/10689
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ExomatrixTV
15th August 2024, 15:42
Wall Street Journal August 15th, 2024, quote:


A Drunken Evening, a Rented Yacht: The Real Story of the Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage (https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-real-story-da24839c)

Private businessmen funded the shoestring operation, which was overseen by a top general; President Zelensky approved the plan, "then tried unsuccessfully to call it off"

me:

"then tried unsuccessfully to call it off"<<< even if this is the case, it proves it was a HIGH CRIMES are initiated (if confession is accurate), combined with all the rhetoric used by Biden threatening to do exactly that! ... How many times have the Deep State/CIA/WEF/Bilderbergers using "fronts" or "minions" to do their dirty job for them? ... Then claiming "innocence".

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Germany 🇩🇪 seeks arrest of Ukrainian diver for Nord Stream sabotage (https://rumble.com/v5b0v0q-germany-seeks-arrest-of-ukrainian-diver-for-nord-stream-sabotage.html) :dog:

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ExomatrixTV
16th August 2024, 01:50
Why did former Prime Minister Rutte do NOTHING with this report on the terrorist attack on Nord Stream pipelines?

Ukrainian President Zelensky was aware of the plans to blow up the Nord Stream pipelines and gave permission for this (https://www.msn.com/nl-be/nieuws/other/inval-oekra%C3%AFne-zelenski-wist-van-sabotage-nord-stream-en-keurde-die-goed/ar-AA1oPyBF) , writes The Wall Street Journal based on conversations with people involved in the sabotage action. One of those involved told the newspaper that Zelensky approved the plan, something three other sources confirmed.


Fully informed

In the days after the explosions, the Netherlands issued a detailed report on the attack. The CIA received that report, but due to intelligence rules the Secret Service could not pass it on to Germany, which led the investigation into the explosions. This requires explicit permission from the Netherlands. So when then Prime Minister Mark Rutte had his photo taken with Zelensky laughing on May 4 last year (Remembrance Day, of all places), he was fully aware that the Ukrainian president was part of this terrorist attack, which caused major damage to the Dutch and European economy. has inflicted, notes former European Parliamentarian Rob Roos.


Even more relevant

“Why didn't former Prime Minister Rutte do anything about this?” Roos wants to know. “Why so friendly with Zelensky when his involvement was known?” Especially now that (WEF & Bilderberger) Rutte will become NATO's top boss, these questions are even more relevant, says the ex-European Member of Parliament.


dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/waarom-heeft-oud-premier-rutte-niets-gedaan-met-dit-rapport-over-terreuraanslag-op-nord-stream-pijpleidingen/) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

ExomatrixTV
16th August 2024, 02:38
Total Vindication: NATO Admits Russia Did Not Blow Up Nordstream Pipeline:

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Helvetic
16th August 2024, 07:27
Joseph P. Farrell | News and Views from the Nefarium | Aug. 15, 2024

Source: gizadeathstar.com (http://gizadeathstar.com)

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Germany has issued arrest warrants for a Ukrainian citizen alleged to be involved in the Nordstream pipeline sanotage.... but Joseph Doesn't think that's the end of the story...

Article:
Germany issues arrest warrant for Ukrainian national over Nord Stream gas pipeline sabotage attack (https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-08-14/germany-issues-arrest-warrant-for-ukrainian-national-over-nord-stream-gas-pipeline-sabotage-attack.html)

ExomatrixTV
16th August 2024, 21:36
“CIA Warned Zelenskyy” - WSJ Exposes Who Blew Up the Nord Stream Pipeline:

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Pat and the team dive into explosive claims from a Wall Street Journal report that a Ukrainian team, allegedly approved by President Zelensky, sabotaged the Nord Stream pipeline. Despite denials from Ukraine, the discussion raises critical questions about who truly benefited from the incident and its broader geopolitical implications.

ExomatrixTV
21st August 2024, 15:19
Russia on Nord Stream Pipelines | Security Council Stakeout | United Nations:

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Dmitry Polyanskiy, the Deputy Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the United Nations, compared the details of the investigation into the September 2022 destruction of the Nord Stream gas pipelines to “a scenario for a Hollywood blockbuster” during remarks to reporters today (20 Aug).

He said, “only a child or a very naive person can believe that three amateur divers are behind this blast. So, those who promote this fairy tale want to create a smokescreen around confessions of U.S. top officials in the sabotage of the Nord Stream, which are widely known."

Polyanskiy further accused Germany of withholding crucial information related to the attack, which, according to him, should be shared with the U.N. Security Council. "Germany has important information about this terrorist act, which it shares with journalists, but conceals from the Security Council," he said. "We hope that Berlin will heed this request and duly inform the Security Council about its findings in the nearest future."

The Ambassador also cast doubt on the integrity of Western investigations into the pipeline destruction, specifically questioning Germany's handling of the case. "The Western countries are trying to imply that they still believe in the integrity and professionalism of the German investigation. They were saying the same things about the Swedish investigation and Danish investigation, and we remember that their only conclusion was that the Nord Stream was, in fact, blown up," Polyanskiy stated. "So, we have serious doubts about it. The question is that Germany should share what it has so far with the Security Council. It's its obligation, and it's something that we expect to be done in the nearest future."

When asked about the response of Western members of the Security Council to a recent Ukrainian incursion, Polyanskiy described the Ukrainian operation as a failure. "It hasn't achieved any goals that were formulated," he said, noting that Ukraine is losing ground quickly. "Ukraine is losing the positions which were fortified and maintained since the Maidan coup in 2014. This is a very fatal scenario for Ukraine."

Polyanskiy accused Ukrainian forces of committing atrocities, including targeting civilians and volunteers, and alleged that Nazism is deeply rooted in Ukrainian society. He also criticized Western countries for their silence, suggesting that they fear compromising themselves by acknowledging the actions of the Ukrainian military. "There are even more volunteers coming to the front, and I have absolutely no reason to doubt that the followers of Nazis in Ukraine will have the same inglorious end as the followers of Hitler in Germany 80 years ago," Polyanskiy concluded.

Kryztian
28th September 2024, 03:09
Kiev should pay if it blew up Nord Stream – German MP
Berlin is giving “billions” in aid to the “chief suspect” in the gas pipelines explosion, Sahra Wagenknecht has said
https://www.rt.com/news/604800-kiev-pay-nord-stream-sabotage/

Germany urgently needs an independent parliamentary probe into the Nord Stream sabotage, veteran German left-wing politician Sahra Wagenknecht said in a video published on Thursday. If it’s proven that Kiev was behind the 2022 attack on the gas pipeline, it should be held responsible, she added.

The lawmaker, who also leads her own party – the Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance (BSW) – questioned what she calls Berlin’s ongoing “deafening silence” a full two years after the incident. Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s cabinet has stubbornly refused to share any substantial details about the ongoing inquiry into the blasts or its results with the parliament, she argued.

The need for investigation is all the more urgent since Ukraine, which is a recipient of billions of German taxpayers’ money, is the chief suspect,” Wagenknecht said.

“If Ukraine is responsible for the terrorist act against the German energy supply, the arms deliveries must end immediately and the question of compensation must be put on the table.”

The MP cited numerous Western media reports which claim a group of Ukrainian divers blew up the Russian undersea pipelines that had delivered natural gas to Germany. The allegedly privately funded group was supposedly acting on orders from Ukrainian General Valery Zaluzhny, who was later dismissed and made Kiev’s ambassador to the UK, Der Spiegel reported earlier this month.

“Anyone who has friends like this really does not need any enemies,” Wagenknecht said, adding that “if this story is true, then we really have had a scandal of the century.” She cited other reports suggesting that Berlin may have been warned by the CIA about the potential attack but still took no action.

The subsequent government silence in the wake of the attack raises even more questions, she added.

“This refusal to cooperate with parliament and the public makes the establishment of an investigative committee, requested… by the BSW, ever more urgent,” Wagenknecht said. Berlin has yet to provide any official information on the probe. In August, German media reported that the authorities had issued a first arrest warrant in the case, allegedly for a Ukrainian national identified as “Vladimir Z.”

Germany is the second-biggest donor of military aid to Ukraine, totalling over €10 billion ($11.19 billion) between January 2022 and June 2024, according to the Kiel Institute for World Economy. Berlin has also provided Kiev with almost $5 billion in humanitarian and financial assistance over the same period, according to the think tank’s estimates.