Liz Truss resigns as UK Prime Minister

[Matthew]

The UK Prime Minister, someone or other, has resigned today. Our resigned PM was in office for a shorter period than the leader selection process took. She resigns after a u-turn on a high end tax-break policy, and Jeremy Hunt and Grant Shapps being appointed to senior positions in the cabinet; these two are globalist continuity stooges. Parliament plan to replace her within the week after changing the rules.

https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/1583079540859207680

[Le Chat]

"Boris Johnson is considering running for PM"

No, please no.......:facepalm:

[Matthew]

Honestly I don't see any favourable option in any direction, there's too much invested in them following the global script. Hate for specific politicians just blindsides that noble truth.

[Bill Ryan]

Alexander Mercouris' take, just 16 minutes, on the whole extraordinary, chaotic scene. It was recorded shortly before Liz Truss actually resigned, but everything he states is valid. He knew for sure she would be gone within hours.

(In fact, Mercouris has been 100% correct in every one of his predictions over the last few months. He's by far the most astute geopolitical analyst I'm aware of.)

Liz Truss resigns, regime change success


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiXsMKSXxWk

[jaybee]

Honestly I don't see any favourable option in any direction, there's too much invested in them following the global script. Hate for specific politicians just blindsides that noble truth.


Just saw this ... I'm not familiar with Lois Perry but she is sounding the alarm and you don't hear this kind of thing very often - so well done to her and GBNews and Mark Steyn - the treacherous BBC, ITV, Channel 4 + 5 etc would never in a million years be allowed say this -

'UK Government has been taken over by sleeper agents' says Lois Perry

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A couple of comments from below the 5:36 min. video...


"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself." Cicero, circa 40 B.C.

and a reply to the above...


We've got the entire British establishment in politics, academia, civil service, media, legal system, police, education system and the arts all trying to destroy is from within. Cicero would have had an accident in his toga if he'd have had to take on that lot !

We are drowning in traitors and the attacks are coming from all angles - democracy such as it is didn't last long did it... every adult in Britain was given the vote in 1928 to participate in the political decision making - and within 100 years it's all falling apart at an alarming rate - after decades of infiltration as per mentioned above... the Common People, the General Public are shamelessly manipulated and disrespected...

[Did You See Them]

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[araucaria]

Alexander Mercouris' take, just 16 minutes, on the whole extraordinary, chaotic scene. It was recorded shortly before Liz Truss actually resigned, but everything he states is valid. He knew for sure she would be gone within hours.

(In fact, Mercouris has been 100% correct in every one of his predictions over the last few months. He's by far the most astute geopolitical analyst I'm aware of.)

Liz Truss resigns, regime change success


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiXsMKSXxWk
I need some enlightened help: as to the meaning of literally the last two seconds of this conversation: what has the return of the ‘remainer establishment’ done to the UK government that is so dreadful?
I am not entirely ignorant. I realize a) that the view on mainland Europe shared by remainers in the UK is that Brexit is the cause of Britain’s economic woes (around 16% loss of trade I read the other day); b) that the received wisdom on Avalon is that the EU is the devil in disguise; c) that Mercouris is blaming Britain for its involvement in Ukraine; d) that Europe (Macron friend or foe? the jury is no longer out) is less prone to see Putin as the devil in disguise, and more as a (difficult) neighbour.
In light of the the above, like Liz Truss (for just this once), I am ‘genuinely unclear’ as to Mercouris’ position. If he is both pro-Brexit and anti-Ukraine war, then that would doubtless lead to internal conflict. Clearly, as I suggested earlier he is also anti-Labour, i.e. pro-Conservative; he states here that no one thinks Starmer has a solution. Maybe he doesn’t, but maybe as a bona fide politician Starmer may be able to negociate something with his international partners – that’s how it works, and that would be progress on the current stalemate. A little give and take never did any harm.
What Brexit and the war in Ukraine (regardless of responsibilities) have in common is of course that both involve violent rejection of one’s neighbours. They are mirror images of each other. The UK rejects France, Germany… Russia/Ukraine embrace each other in some ways too closely. The outcome in each case is self-harm.

[Bill Ryan]

I need some enlightened help: as to the meaning of literally the last two seconds of this conversation: what has the return of the ‘remainer establishment’ done to the UK government that is so dreadful?

'Remainer establishment' = pro-EU = pro-Ukraine = pro-sanctions = economic destruction of Europe and the UK.

[araucaria]

I need some enlightened help: as to the meaning of literally the last two seconds of this conversation: what has the return of the ‘remainer establishment’ done to the UK government that is so dreadful?

'Remainer establishment' = pro-EU = pro-Ukraine = pro-sanctions = economic destruction of Europe and the UK.
A movement embodied, I guess, by the very dregs of human society, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Truss... Come on, Bill, do you want me to retire from the forum tonight or tomorrow?
a) Europe is showing no signs of going down with the UK.
b) Johnson, Truss are/were extremely anti-EU AND pro-Ukraine, that was my point.

[jaybee]

What Brexit and the war in Ukraine (regardless of responsibilities) have in common is of course that both involve violent rejection of one’s neighbours. They are mirror images of each other. The UK rejects France, Germany… Russia/Ukraine embrace each other in some ways too closely. The outcome in each case is self-harm.


no.... neither Brexit nor the 'war' in Ukraine is the violent rejection of one's neighbours...

both are, in their own way, a rejection of Globalism and tyranny -

[bogeyman]

How many men go unknowing and without understanding through all the rooms, all the secret hidden places in this palace, unseeing, uncomprehending, worse than a blind man, or as the saying goes, as a donkey on a bagpipe, because they have not been sufficiently prepared and made worthy. He who hath ears, let him hear. -Theophilus Schweighardt, "Mirror of Wisdom).

[Michel Leclerc]

Bill, Araucaria.

Yes Araucaria, I agree with both your points a) and b). Alas Bill, I think you are mistaken in your support for Brexit.
The opinion shared with me, a Belgian [and fully bicultural (Dutch-French) citizen of the broken, "wrecked" polity which used to be Duchy of Burgundy = the 17 Provinces = “Leo Belgicus” = the Low Lands by the Sea, which contributed literature, philosophy, painting, sculpture, music, economy, industry and engineering essential to the European identity – broken, that is, in the NATO servile Netherlands and servile “Belgium D.C.”] ..shared with me by many French is the old suspicion de Gaulle (staunch anti-NATO and the victim of I think more than 20 (unsuccessful) attempts at his life by Anglosaxonia’s secret services) had about the UK joining the European Community/later Union: that the UK would join it to wreck it. And Brexit was indeed meant to be Wrexit.
In this part of the world (Southern France), there are quite a number of Brits. They all speak French moderately to very well, with a "sympathique" accent of course, why not. They have a very low opinion of their compatriot politicians and citizens who wrecked it (it being the UK itself and quite a part of the European Union). A lot of them are small business owners: the turnover they raised by having access to both the UK and the French markets does not exist any more. In their day dreams they strangle Brexiteer politicians.
The general opinion is that if the UK had stayed in the EU they might have helped reform the EU – which reform will anyhow happen in the wake of the Ukrainian disaster – and now the opinion (even among the Brits over here!) is "let them" (the Brexiting Brits) "eat their s..t” (which is indeed happening).
Why this attitude about "la perfide Albion"? If you go through the many postings on PA, you can guess why: the Anglo-Saxon Mission is not only a thing of the future; it is essentially also a thing of the past.
Boris Johnson is indeed a major player both in the Brexit disaster that is ruining the UK and in the Ukrainian disaster. His personification of both calamities blatantly shows that both are part of the same plot. Europe "de l’Atlantique à l’Oural" (from the Atlantic to the Ural) – which was De Gaulle’s dream and design (in the wake of Alexandre Kojève!) – needed to be wrecked according to the unicultural suprematist and exceptionalist Anglosaxonians: one of its chapters was Brexit, the most recent one is the "sanctions" against the Russian European pillar that quite comfortably also "wreck" Germany (an old dream since the 17th century) and – almost – France (both constituting, together with the heirs to the Burgundian Duchy (Benelux), Charlemagne’s empire).
So that when the UK disappears into the waves it claims to rule – do the Anglosaxionians really think that the "continental" Europeans will shed a tear if they themselves do not?

[Sirus]

I need some enlightened help: as to the meaning of literally the last two seconds of this conversation: what has the return of the ‘remainer establishment’ done to the UK government that is so dreadful?

'Remainer establishment' = pro-EU = pro-Ukraine = pro-sanctions = economic destruction of Europe and the UK.
A movement embodied, I guess, by the very dregs of human society, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Truss... Come on, Bill, do you want me to retire from the forum tonight or tomorrow?
a) Europe is showing no signs of going down with the UK.
b) Johnson, Truss are/were extremely anti-EU AND pro-Ukraine, that was my point.

Europe is also impacted by the inflation issues, as is the USA and Australia.

Boris and Truss were both remainers but changed tack as they knew which way the wind was blowing.
Boris never thought leave would win and he looked very sheepish after the referendum.

[bogeyman]

A friend of mine works within the House Of Commons in the policy department, he told me it's a "complete shambles believe me".

[norman]

A friend of mine works within the House Of Commons in the policy department, he told me it's a "complete shambles believe me".

. .and today's UK Column opens with (almost) glee about how all this revolving of doors is at least slowing down the passage of draconian legislation through parliament.

UK Column News Podcast 21st October 2022 (https://podbay.fm/p/uk-column-podcasts/e/1666358721)


I'm starting to wonder if there are steadier hands at work behind the curtain. For all we know, 'Britain' might already be making plans ( or even committed ) to join BRICS as soon as this crash and flush out has run it's course.

[Matthew]

Bill, Araucaria.

Yes Araucaria, I agree with both your points a) and b). Alas Bill, I think you are mistaken in your support for Brexit.
The opinion shared with me, a Belgian [and fully bicultural (Dutch-French) citizen of the broken, "wrecked" polity which used to be Duchy of Burgundy = the 17 Provinces = “Leo Belgicus” = the Low Lands by the Sea, which contributed literature, philosophy, painting, sculpture, music, economy, industry and engineering essential to the European identity – broken, that is, in the NATO servile Netherlands and servile “Belgium D.C.”] ..shared with me by many French is the old suspicion de Gaulle (staunch anti-NATO and the victim of I think more than 20 (unsuccessful) attempts at his life by Anglosaxonia’s secret services) had about the UK joining the European Community/later Union: that the UK would join it to wreck it. And Brexit was indeed meant to be Wrexit.
In this part of the world (Southern France), there are quite a number of Brits. They all speak French moderately to very well, with a "sympathique" accent of course, why not. They have a very low opinion of their compatriot politicians and citizens who wrecked it (it being the UK itself and quite a part of the European Union). A lot of them are small business owners: the turnover they raised by having access to both the UK and the French markets does not exist any more. In their day dreams they strangle Brexiteer politicians.
The general opinion is that if the UK had stayed in the EU they might have helped reform the EU – which reform will anyhow happen in the wake of the Ukrainian disaster – and now the opinion (even among the Brits over here!) is "let them" (the Brexiting Brits) "eat their s..t” (which is indeed happening).
Why this attitude about "la perfide Albion"? If you go through the many postings on PA, you can guess why: the Anglo-Saxon Mission is not only a thing of the future; it is essentially also a thing of the past.
Boris Johnson is indeed a major player both in the Brexit disaster that is ruining the UK and in the Ukrainian disaster. His personification of both calamities blatantly shows that both are part of the same plot. Europe "de l’Atlantique à l’Oural" (from the Atlantic to the Ural) – which was De Gaulle’s dream and design (in the wake of Alexandre Kojève!) – needed to be wrecked according to the unicultural suprematist and exceptionalist Anglosaxonians: one of its chapters was Brexit, the most recent one is the "sanctions" against the Russian European pillar that quite comfortably also "wreck" Germany (an old dream since the 17th century) and – almost – France (both constituting, together with the heirs to the Burgundian Duchy (Benelux), Charlemagne’s empire).
So that when the UK disappears into the waves it claims to rule – do the Anglosaxionians really think that the "continental" Europeans will shed a tear if they themselves do not?

I could talk about brexit till the cows come home so I will bite on one point, and rant back at your rant: there was no chance of reforming the EU. What magic sauce do you think the UK had to help reform that the current members don't have? Let me try and answer my own question: rebellion is that magic sauce. The awkwardness that Farage brought when he was there, if that didn't cause enough momentum of rebellion to change it from within then, no, the UK can't help reform it. Also, no, the UK does not actually think it rules the waves urgh

[Spiral]

Bill, Araucaria.

Yes Araucaria, I agree with both your points a) and b). Alas Bill, I think you are mistaken in your support for Brexit.
The opinion shared with me, a Belgian [and fully bicultural (Dutch-French) citizen of the broken, "wrecked" polity which used to be Duchy of Burgundy = the 17 Provinces = “Leo Belgicus” = the Low Lands by the Sea, which contributed literature, philosophy, painting, sculpture, music, economy, industry and engineering essential to the European identity – broken, that is, in the NATO servile Netherlands and servile “Belgium D.C.”] ..shared with me by many French is the old suspicion de Gaulle (staunch anti-NATO and the victim of I think more than 20 (unsuccessful) attempts at his life by Anglosaxonia’s secret services) had about the UK joining the European Community/later Union: that the UK would join it to wreck it. And Brexit was indeed meant to be Wrexit.
In this part of the world (Southern France), there are quite a number of Brits. They all speak French moderately to very well, with a "sympathique" accent of course, why not. They have a very low opinion of their compatriot politicians and citizens who wrecked it (it being the UK itself and quite a part of the European Union). A lot of them are small business owners: the turnover they raised by having access to both the UK and the French markets does not exist any more. In their day dreams they strangle Brexiteer politicians.
The general opinion is that if the UK had stayed in the EU they might have helped reform the EU – which reform will anyhow happen in the wake of the Ukrainian disaster – and now the opinion (even among the Brits over here!) is "let them" (the Brexiting Brits) "eat their s..t” (which is indeed happening).
Why this attitude about "la perfide Albion"? If you go through the many postings on PA, you can guess why: the Anglo-Saxon Mission is not only a thing of the future; it is essentially also a thing of the past.
Boris Johnson is indeed a major player both in the Brexit disaster that is ruining the UK and in the Ukrainian disaster. His personification of both calamities blatantly shows that both are part of the same plot. Europe "de l’Atlantique à l’Oural" (from the Atlantic to the Ural) – which was De Gaulle’s dream and design (in the wake of Alexandre Kojève!) – needed to be wrecked according to the unicultural suprematist and exceptionalist Anglosaxonians: one of its chapters was Brexit, the most recent one is the "sanctions" against the Russian European pillar that quite comfortably also "wreck" Germany (an old dream since the 17th century) and – almost – France (both constituting, together with the heirs to the Burgundian Duchy (Benelux), Charlemagne’s empire).
So that when the UK disappears into the waves it claims to rule – do the Anglosaxionians really think that the "continental" Europeans will shed a tear if they themselves do not?

If anyone thought or intended brexit to have negative repercussions in Europe, let alone the power to "wreck" anything it certainly wasn't the people who voted for it, they only considered the UK, they expected the tidal wave of migrants to stop (it hasn't, it's far worse now), to stop the UK losing more powers to Brussels & getting things like fishing rights back. None of it was quite thought through, and of course the whole thing was utterly bodged, most likely on purpose.

The ruling Elite on the other hand had it's own ideas & plans, most we can only guess at, but keeping the Pound (Sterling), and stopping overseas powers having any control over the City of London is obviously central, I think it was the talk of financial controls that triggered brexit tbh.

As for the Ukraine thing, well there is only one viewpoint allowed on that just like there is on Israel.

The destructive things descending on Europe, and I include the UK in that because it is part of Europe, are a direct result of US policy, via NATO, which is in reality a control mechanism over the members of it. The policies the German gov & the EU have brought in are things they have done themselves, because the US told them to.

As for ex-pat Brits, esp in France, they are in no way a measure of actual Brits living in the UK, they are almost exclusively of a particular class & mindset, with different vested interests to people living in the UK. Because they know UK politics & are quite jaded they feel the continent has options and freedoms the UK hasn't got, mainly because they don't understand enough about it & how the deepstate operates.

I've not heard anyone more extreme in their support of "Ukraine" than Ursula von der Leyen, and she isn't an anglosaxon. This isn't about nations, it's about a group that spans nations that have powers they shouldn't have, a group that democracy seems impotent before.

[Brigantia]

On a lighter note, from the Downing Street cat:

[TargeT]

This guy was a genius... and the Lettuce won!

Iceberg lettuce in blond wig outlasts Liz Truss (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/20/iceberg-lettuce-in-blonde-wig-outlasts-liz-truss)

A wilting 60p iceberg lettuce from Tesco in a blond wig has been crowned the winner of a bizarre competition after outlasting Liz Truss’s tenuous grip on power.

Seven days ago the Daily Star set up a webcam on the lettuce to see if it would have a longer shelf-life than the prime minister. To add to Truss’s humiliating resignation, the lettuce won.

https://twitter.com/dailystar/status/1583089825582059523?s=20&t=_i6h61VSErcLIPBBAvK5nA

https://twitter.com/dailystar/status/1583089825582059523?s=20&t=_i6h61VSErcLIPBBAvK5nA

[Matthew]

I suppose I should post her resignation speech. I think she is saying more than she says. The sad afterthought: if she was a WEF puppet etc I don't think she would have resigned; a kind of "witch trial" approach to gauging people we might want to trust. Don't know how much merit that has, but she looks happy in the video. I'll give her something: 44 days in the job in one of the most turbulent global political climates and all she gets is ridiculed, compared to a lettuce and Public Duty Cost Allowance (PDCDA), worth up to £115,000, every year for the rest of her life.



Liz Truss resignation speech in full: Read and watch every word of the Prime Minister’s statement
Liz Truss is set to become the shortest serving Prime Minister in history after she battled an open revolt from Conservatives demanding her departure
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/liz-truss-resignation-speech-full-read-watch-every-word-prime-minister-statement-1923282


What did Liz Truss say?
Speaking in Downing Street, with her husband Hugh O’Leary alongside her, Ms Truss said: “I came into office at a time of great economic and international instability.

“Families and businesses were worried about how to pay their bills.

“Putin’s illegal war in Ukraine threatens the security of our whole continent.

“And our country had been held back for too long by low economic growth.

“I was elected by the Conservative Party with a mandate to change this.

“We delivered on energy bills and on cutting national insurance.

“And we set out a vision for a low tax, high growth economy – that would take advantage of the freedoms of Brexit.

“I recognise though, given the situation, I cannot deliver the mandate on which I was elected by the Conservative Party.

“I have therefore spoken to His Majesty The King to notify him that I am resigning as Leader of the Conservative Party.

“This morning I met the Chair of the 1922 Committee Sir Graham Brady.

“We have agreed there will be a leadership election to be completed in the next week.

“This will ensure we remain on a path to deliver our fiscal plans and maintain our country’s economic stability and national security.

“I will remain as Prime Minister until a successor has been chosen.

“Thank you.”

[TargeT]

44 days in the job in one of the most turbulent global political climates and all she gets is ridiculed, compared to a lettuce and Public Duty Cost Allowance (PDCDA), worth up to £115,000, every year for the rest of her life.


I suppose the proof is in the pudding, (aka, what did she actually accomplish) ?

however, I do agree that she seems to have skated out of there pretty easily; which makes me tend to distrust and focus abit more on accomplishments.

[Matthew]

I apologise for my droll, deadpan twang - I've lost all hope in any of the rotten bunch in Westminster. The global coup is still on going, they would probably be risking their lives to go against the script. I didn't have enough enthusiasm to see what she was doing in her 44 days aside from the tax u-turn and globalist appointments.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfDo4_2XoAI4Znx?format=jpg&name=4096x4096


I noticed your post norman, probably the best way to look at it all :clapping:



A friend of mine works within the House Of Commons in the policy department, he told me it's a "complete shambles believe me".

. .and today's UK Column opens with (almost) glee about how all this revolving of doors is at least slowing down the passage of draconian legislation through parliament.

UK Column News Podcast 21st October 2022 (https://podbay.fm/p/uk-column-podcasts/e/1666358721)


I'm starting to wonder if there are steadier hands at work behind the curtain. For all we know, 'Britain' might already be making plans ( or even committed ) to join BRICS as soon as this crash and flush out has run it's course.

[norman]

Liz Truss: 45 days in 45 seconds

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[jaybee]

I apologise for my droll, deadpan twang - I've lost all hope in any of the rotten bunch in Westminster. The global coup is still on going, they would probably be risking their lives to go against the script. I didn't have enough enthusiasm to see what she was doing in her 44 days aside from the tax u-turn and globalist appointments.


The whole thing and politics in general has become so ridiculous perhaps the only way to penetrate the madness and create a shift is to Out Gaslight the Gaslighters...

'They' have been gaslighting the world with never ending reverse reality - twisting everyone's head out of shape with the nonsense and insanity - trying to dumb us down at every turn and kill us - the whole thing is a bad joke anyway....

We have the Monster Raving Loony Party waiting in the wings...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Monster_Raving_Loony_Party

and maybe the Silly Party could also be brought into being - in the world of reverse reality - the Silly Party would really be the Sensible Party - :Party:


If ever there was a time for all the Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrels to come out and save us from the rotten, boring, self serving fakes..... it's now....

And come on..... Malcolm Peter Brian Telescope Adrian Umbrella Stand Jasper Wednesday (pops mouth twice) Stoatgobbler John Raw Vegetable (whinnying) Arthur Norman Michael (blows squeaker) Featherstone Smith (whistle) Northcott Edwards Harris (fires pistol, then 'whoop') Mason (chuff-chuff-chuff-chuff) Frampton Jones Fruitbat Gilbert (sings) 'We'll keep a welcome in the' (three shots) Williams If I Could Walk That Way Jenkin (squeaker) Tiger-drawers Pratt Thompson (sings) 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head' Darcy Carter (horn) Pussycat (sings) 'Don't Sleep In The Subway' Barton Mainwaring (hoot, 'whoop') Smith.......... before it's too late...

Monti Pajton - Izborna noć/Monty Python - Election Night

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just a thought - :whistle:

[ulli]

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Who will even read her résumé?

[araucaria]

Thank you Michel Leclerc and others. Since the equation pro-EU = pro-Ukraine does not hold for everyone, let’s take another look.

I have analyzed in some detail elsewhere how the EU began as a peacemaking organization to calm Germany after its three wars of aggression. In that regard it has been an outstanding success. Germany’s problem was an expansionist, imperialist agenda (jealousy of England?) launched from its unpromising base in the middle of Europe. Eastern Europe was the local part of that Lebensraum agenda, and being a huge country within that region, Ukraine played a part in that story. But this is Slavic territory culturally linked to Russia. The earlier stability ended after the Cold War when the US decided it was the one and only superpower. Stirring neo-nazism was its modus operandi for influence in that area. Ukraine is the battleground and Russia is geographically in the front line and obliged to defend herself. But Russia, like any other country, has a populace and a governing elite. What is exotic about Russia is that the populace might be getting behind the government because it looks after them in a way not seen in say London. This is corroborated by the elite being in the opposition, and making its influence felt through all those oligarchs who robbed their fortunes during the collapse of the Soviet Union. A lot of that stolen cash would seem to be funding the British Conservative party.

The above is my briefest view of the international situation. I come to the Tory party, which has ruled the country and the British Empire for around three quarters of its history, something that has happened for the most part throughout Europe (but very much not in Russia). An elite minority has been in power more or less all the time, with brief interludes of opposition party rule. In demographic terms, what this means is that the interests of the majority have rarely been represented, and since the popular vote was introduced, this has continued with people often voting perhaps against their own interests. As they are now discovering, the ‘Red wall’ constituencies are only the latest example of this ‘turkeys voting for Christmas’ syndrome. No one on this forum should be surprised to see this anomaly being sustained by the mainstream media, which is particularly vicious in the UK with the Murdoch tabloid press selling millions of copies daily to factory workers and the like, something not seen elsewhere. Populism is the derogatory term used to describe what happens when ordinary people take an interest in politics. However the term covers two diametrically opposed phenomena: the difference between left and right in this regard is that the left has the uphill task of promoting radical change to the never-ending injustice, while the rightist version is designed to prop up the status quo. While conservative populism was always something of a contradiction in terms, that fact has now become brutally clear by introducing blatant soak-the-poor policies.

Meanwhile, the left-leaning opposition has its hands tied in both the two major areas we are considering. First, since Brexit was decided ‘democratically’, Starmer has to devise a platform designed to make Brexit work, instead of updating a remainer agenda into a ‘closer ties with Europe’ one, still less applying to rejoin the EU. Since the instigators of Brexit are themselves proving totally unable to make Brexit work, that is a difficult challenge that is drawing flak away from the government to the opposition. What Mercouris is doing is criticizing the government, which is fair enough, but he is doing so as a disappointed Brexiteer, which I find extremely dubious.
And secondly (and this would explain Corbyn’s ejection), Starmer has to buy into the warmongering narrative of an evil Putin invading Ukraine in an illegal war, and possibly committing war crimes in the process. People, including civilians, women and children, get killed in war, that is what war means. ‘War crimes’ is an oxymoron; clearly there is something criminal about fomenting unnecessary wars. So we have two major policy issues where the opposition is stymied and unable to offer a radically alternative agenda. All this should be making life much simpler for the party in office, but this just goes to show that the degree of stupidity required to engineer this self-inflicted Tory meltdown was much greater than we thought.

As far as I can see, what is happening is the latest – American – version of imperialism. There is no need for a ‘planned takedown of America’: this is how empires invariably collapse as they make themselves too objectionable to too many. Brexit fits in with this picture of defeating Russia in two ways, by simultaneously weakening Europe and furthering a criminal agenda seeking to turn the UK into an offshore tax haven. This would seem to point to an inconsistency in a stance that is both anti-EU and anti-Ukraine/pro-Russia. This needs to be set alongside the toxic anti-EU pro-Ukraine combination, suggesting that a strong EU would seem to have a key rôle to play in any favourable solution.

I suggested my forum membership might be in jeopardy. What I meant was that when you find an alternative media outlet claiming to be better informed than the broadsheets but aligning itself with the vicious tabloids backing these unhinged politicians, if only on the single subject of Brexit, then the only reason for hanging around in a very uncomfortable position is the fact that, here at least, dissenting voices are allowed, such dialogue being the only way forward. This forum has the much-needed open-mindedness to make a useful contribution, but more work needs to be done on this issue.

History has gone from warring gods to warring kings (cf. Richard III) to warring politicians. The next step in this ‘trickle-down’ agenda is the entire world at war, compared with which World War II was a walk in the park. The twentieth century saw great advances in multiplying civilian casualties, culminating in Japan, and the Japan campaign culminating in you know what.
The only viable alternative is therefore a grassroots-up approach, one which reverses the cause of war, namely aggression whether to stamp out some perceived evil or to steal some advantage, into something more tolerant, such as incompetence or learning difficulties experienced by an immature human race on the way to greater things. As always, we have two different perspectives on the same data.

The idea of some controlling superforce using crass incompetence as a weapon is to say the least somewhat counterintuitive. Another perspective could explain the same data, and might just obviate the need for some putative superforce, be it behind-the-scenes human, terrestrial, extraterrestrial, interdimensional or from beyond the multiverse! Occam’s razor working overtime.
Johnson and Truss have been exploring new depths of ‘incompetence’ while setting themselves up for a generous life pension at everyone else’s expense, no more résumés needed. The only way to get round the sheer incompetence is to tout Truss (as some have done) as a Lib-Dem mole who has infiltrated the Conservative Party to bring it down. This does not need to be actually true for it to describe what is objectively happening, albeit as an unplanned side effect. After all, incompetence/inexperience can typically involve doing something and simultaneously undoing it – e.g. a baby tackling its very first mouthful of nonliquid food and spitting it all out. It may be a fascinating instance of Jung’s enantiodromia, whereby something switches to its opposite: the totally dumb turning into a stroke of genius, why not? However, the question as to whether this is a brilliant ploy or total lack of self-awareness is secondary to the lesson it brings for all, namely when something goes (horribly) wrong, the next step is to work out why and try something different, i.e. more intelligent. The baby copes better second time around because it has eliminated the surprise factor, and is hungry after all: it’s called learning from experience, and it is an imperative for growth, including Trussian growth. Was it Spiral said above ‘we are in uncharted territory’? Precisely so. But we are learning. We have an instinct for learning; and so do our pets. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/oct/22/the-dog-that-walks-like-a-human-and-other-precocious-pets-duck-cat-parrot

From the above, we might learn that Brexit and Ukraine are two aspects of a single problem. One major battle in the current war is being fought in and over the UK. A small symbol of this battle is the way British cars in mainland Europe now bear UK instead of GB plates. This is doubtless the work of the breakaway disUnited Kingdom, but for a while it looked like they were bringing loads of migrants from eastern Europe. The fact of the matter is indeed that many former British tourists have now themselves become asylum seekers on the continent – voting with their feet. This is the other half of the flight or fight instinct. However, we are trying to get beyond pure instinct where this huge brain/mind of ours can be of some use. So how would this work? Over to you, I don’t have all the answers :)
It might have something to do with multiple equations of the type we started with. Say, UK = UK = EU = RF… Médecins sans frontières. The next step might be UN-member Russia applying to join NATO. Totally ridiculous… for now.

[TargeT]

interesting break down from a "local"

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edit:
full disclosure, I could only make it through about 2/3 of that video... Russel Brand's humor is a bit obnoxious to me; and not very funny... maybe it's too referential on topics i'm not aware of, maybe not....

[Brigantia]

It looks like the next PM will be Rishi Sunak, as Johnson has pulled out of the race. Penny Mordaunt doesn't have sufficient support to win.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63327087

[ExomatrixTV]

Nigel Farage Blasts Uk Prime Minster Debacle: 'It's An Embarrassment':

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Former Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage discusses Liz Truss' resignation as U.K. prime minister amid Europe's political and economic turmoil.