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Eric J (Viking)
8th November 2022, 17:40
Really!!!…think of what they put us through with lockdowns…masks…thousands of businesses bust…the orchestrated manipulation that devided freinds…colleagues…family…thousands have died and even more with injuries..only god know what the future holds for side effects, and you want amnesty…With respect ….*#@k off…


WE WANT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS….simple.




LET’S DECLARE A PANDEMIC AMNESTY

In April 2020, with nothing else to do, my family took an enormous number of hikes. We all wore cloth masks that I had made myself. We had a family hand signal, which the person in the front would use if someone was approaching on the trail and we needed to put on our masks. Once, when another child got too close to my then-4-year-old son on a bridge, he yelled at her “SOCIAL DISTANCING!”

These precautions were totally misguided. In April 2020, no one got the coronavirus from passing someone else hiking. Outdoor transmission was vanishingly rare. Our cloth masks made out of old bandanas wouldn’t have done anything, anyway. But the thing is: We didn’t know.

I have been reflecting on this lack of knowledge thanks to a class I’m co-teaching at Brown University on COVID. We’ve spent several lectures reliving the first year of the pandemic, discussing the many important choices we had to make under conditions of tremendous uncertainty.

Some of these choices turned out better than others. To take an example close to my own work, there is an emerging (if not universal) consensus that schools in the U.S. were closed for too long: The health risks of in-school spread were relatively low, whereas the costs to students’ well-being and educational progress were high. The latest figures on learning loss are alarming. But in spring and summer 2020, we had only glimmers of information. Reasonable people—people who cared about children and teachers—advocated on both sides of the reopening debate.

Derek Thompson: School closures were a failed policy

Another example: When the vaccines came out, we lacked definitive data on the relative efficacies of the Johnson & Johnson shot versus the mRNA options from Pfizer and Moderna. The mRNA vaccines have won out. But at the time, many people in public health were either neutral or expressed a J&J preference. This misstep wasn’t nefarious. It was the result of uncertainty.

Obviously some people intended to mislead and made wildly irresponsible claims. Remember when the public-health community had to spend a lot of time and resources urging Americans not to inject themselves with bleach? That was bad. Misinformation was, and remains, a huge problem. But most errors were made by people who were working in earnest for the good of society.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/

Viking

Eric J (Viking)
8th November 2022, 20:27
Some of the COVID crazies are panicking - they want out, but they can't seem to take any responsibility. I cover an article in the Atlantic wherein the author proposes "Pandemic Amnesty"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/c4siEY2d7FEU/

Viking

Eric J (Viking)
8th November 2022, 20:40
Excellent read including full link below

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

As the COVID lies are now being exposed at exponential speed, some of those proven wrong are getting nervous — so nervous, in fact, they’re now pleading for amnesty and to just let bygones be bygones
While some now argue ignorance as their defense, there was no lack of data proving their positions were wrong, dangerous, destructive and deadly, right from the start
Health and government officials weren’t just wrong once and then changed course. No, they’ve doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on errors, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that they’re wrong. Granting amnesty to individuals who have been wrong from Day 1, without a single apology, is an untenable proposition. The price society has paid for their errors is far too great for that
They were wrong about masks working and natural immunity not working, they were wrong about asymptomatic spread, lockdowns, and the safety and effectiveness of the COVID shots. They were also wrong about SARS-CoV-2 jumping naturally from bats to humans by way of a wet market in Wuhan, China, and they were wrong when they insisted that mandating an experimental gene therapy was within legal bounds. Demanding that officials be held accountable for these errors is not gloating. It’s reestablishing a baseline of conduct and accountability to the public
There can be no amnesty for COVID narrative pushers as people proven right are still being persecuted as “misinformation spreaders,” and illegal government censorship continues without abatement. In fact, the Department of Homeland Security now views censorship and controlling the information space as one of its core duties
As the COVID lies are now being exposed at exponential speed, some of those proven wrong are getting nervous — so nervous, in fact, they’re now pleading to just let bygones be bygones.

The Atlantic1 has come under fire for suggesting that all the terrible pandemic-era decisions over lockdowns, school closures, masking and punishing an entire class of people who questioned the efficacy and wisdom of taking a rushed, experimental vaccine — for a virus with a 99% survival rate in most — should all be water under the bridge.

Brown University economist Emily Oster writes in The Atlantic,2 “We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID.” Brendon Marotta in his Substack Hegemon Media3 recounts:

“I believe perpetrators call for forgiveness because they fear punitive justice. If the perpetrators were held accountable in our current justice system, the scale of the wrongdoing would result in punishments the perpetrators could not bear.

These punishments would also not give those who lost their jobs, businesses, friends, family, health, or freedom anything back. What if there was another way that would be better for both victims and perpetrators?

The wrongdoing of the pandemic has not been acknowledged. Those responsible have made no apologies. Calls for ‘forgiveness’ appear dishonest when those responsible haven’t apologized, which is usually a prerequisite to asking for forgiveness.

Creating equity would mean taking the ill-gotten gains of perpetrators and redistributing them to the people who lost their jobs and businesses during the pandemic. In short, it would mean reparations. Equity is not just about money. Losses during the pandemic were not just financial.

People lose their friends, family, and freedoms. Much of the harm done was cultural, emotional, and social. No amount of money can replace the ability to grieve in person at your loved one’s funeral.”

Oster’s plea for the decency that she and the mainstream media and public health officials failed to offer Americans during the throes of the pandemic comes at a point when the COVID narrative has been all but lost by the current administration and the mainstream media.

Further reading…
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=143469

Viking

Anu Raman
8th November 2022, 22:53
EDIT: This amnesty thing, forget it... seriously.. after what I've seen.. they can go shove this up their bum!

T Smith
8th November 2022, 23:00
https://i.stack.imgur.com/NNyjkm.jpghttp://i.stack.imgur.com/NNyjkm.jpg

Matthew
8th November 2022, 23:14
Hard to believe it's an amnesty in good faith. For example anyone can speak out already, mercy is easily available for whistle-blowers ...they are famously fast-tracked into the right(? or wrong) side of history. Is this some new definition of the word "amnesty"? Probably :bigsmile:

DaveToo
9th November 2022, 00:04
My first reaction to the post was to say:

"Hell no!"

But upon further reflection, I would actually be willing to declare a pandemic amnesty.

But only if each and every one of these conditions were met:

1. No more pandemics could be declared for at least 100 years.

2. No health emergency acts or measures/mandates could be invoked for at least 100 years.
Caution advisories sure, but that's different.

3. An immediate halt to ALL Covid-19 vaccines/boosters and testing.

4. An immediate halt to ALL gain of function research.
Life sentences for anyone caught conducting G.O.F. research.

5. All of the vaccinated would need to receive a 'mark of the beast' that could easily be recognized by all.


Translation:

You want an amnesty? Sure.
But you've got to EARN IT!

Anchor
9th November 2022, 07:05
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The idea of an amnesty in this context, dare I say "mandatory" amnesty, is taking gaslighting to a whole new level !!

I'm all about forgiveness, but that can only happen mutually. I have not heard one single apology from those calling for the amnesty, but I have heard apologies for people that were calling for people to get vaxxed and then owned it when they realized they were in the wrong and how bad the vaccine was.

norman
9th November 2022, 07:41
The HighWire with Del Bigtree

THE CALL FOR COVID AMNESTY

https://www.brighteon.com/d4f9c5c9-946d-4ff9-9994-c773396cbf4f


As the thinking about Covid protocols has slowly shifted across America, news agencies that were some of the strongest voices to condemn anyone who even questioned government-pushed narratives are now asking for amnesty.

norman
9th November 2022, 08:36
My own view

We have an intelligent adversary to defeat before that enemy defeats us.

I'll accept sorry from vax victim Karens, if they mean it. I will never accept sorry from vax exempted operatives who took part in this professionally. I've spent decades being called a conspiracy theorist for investigating the biggest criminals in this world and their crimes.

SORRY ! ? . . . that isn't even valid in a court room.

happyuk
9th November 2022, 08:52
Really!!!…think of what they put us through with lockdowns…masks…thousands of businesses bust…the orchestrated manipulation that devided freinds…colleagues…family…thousands have died and even more with injuries..only god know what the future holds for side effects, and you want amnesty…With respect ….*#@k off…


WE WANT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS….simple.




LET’S DECLARE A PANDEMIC AMNESTY

In April 2020, with nothing else to do, my family took an enormous number of hikes. We all wore cloth masks that I had made myself. We had a family hand signal, which the person in the front would use if someone was approaching on the trail and we needed to put on our masks. Once, when another child got too close to my then-4-year-old son on a bridge, he yelled at her “SOCIAL DISTANCING!”

These precautions were totally misguided. In April 2020, no one got the coronavirus from passing someone else hiking. Outdoor transmission was vanishingly rare. Our cloth masks made out of old bandanas wouldn’t have done anything, anyway. But the thing is: We didn’t know.

I have been reflecting on this lack of knowledge thanks to a class I’m co-teaching at Brown University on COVID. We’ve spent several lectures reliving the first year of the pandemic, discussing the many important choices we had to make under conditions of tremendous uncertainty.

Some of these choices turned out better than others. To take an example close to my own work, there is an emerging (if not universal) consensus that schools in the U.S. were closed for too long: The health risks of in-school spread were relatively low, whereas the costs to students’ well-being and educational progress were high. The latest figures on learning loss are alarming. But in spring and summer 2020, we had only glimmers of information. Reasonable people—people who cared about children and teachers—advocated on both sides of the reopening debate.

Derek Thompson: School closures were a failed policy

Another example: When the vaccines came out, we lacked definitive data on the relative efficacies of the Johnson & Johnson shot versus the mRNA options from Pfizer and Moderna. The mRNA vaccines have won out. But at the time, many people in public health were either neutral or expressed a J&J preference. This misstep wasn’t nefarious. It was the result of uncertainty.

Obviously some people intended to mislead and made wildly irresponsible claims. Remember when the public-health community had to spend a lot of time and resources urging Americans not to inject themselves with bleach? That was bad. Misinformation was, and remains, a huge problem. But most errors were made by people who were working in earnest for the good of society.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/

Viking

I always found that the mask wearer fell into one of two camps:

1. He was genuinely afraid, living his life in fear, which is like living while half dead.

2. He was virtue signalling seeking as a means of covering an acute deficit in life, which, unresolved, is also like living while half dead.

What they both had in common was that science, reason & sense be damned, this half-dead person was going to be wearing a mask, anyway.

Frankie Pancakes
9th November 2022, 19:29
Excellent article by Naomi Wolf:

A Small Town, Lost to Lockdowns and Mandates

Ilive in a picture-perfect region — the Hudson Valley, memorialized by painters and poets; a patchwork of autumn reds and yellows, majestic hillsides, storied waterfalls, and little homesteads dotted picturesquely on the slopes of sleepy hamlets.

Towns in our area look like Norman Rockwell paintings: there is Main Street, Millerton, with its white 19th century church steeple, its famous Irving Farm cafe with the excellent curated coffee beans, its charming antiques mall, its popular pizzeria.

When you drive to Millerton, it looks like you are driving into the heart of archetypal America; everything that Woody Guthrie songs memorialize, everything of which American soldiers dreamt when they were far away — everything decent and pure, is to be found in Hudson Valley towns.

It sure looks that way, anyway.

But these days, I am obliged to maintain a fervent inner monologue, just so I can pleasantly go about my business in the local hardware store, in the local florist, in the post office.

Because an emotional massacre has taken place in these little towns. And now we are expected to act as if — this never happened at all.

https://brownstone.org/articles/a-small-town-lost-to-lockdowns-and-mandates/

Sunny-side-up
10th November 2022, 11:34
YES, If they come forward and openly tell what they have seen and or know about the 'PLANDEMIC'.
They have to bring something to the table.

TomKat
10th November 2022, 18:01
A guillotine wouuld be more effective than an amnesy :-)

michaelofwessex
10th November 2022, 18:37
Amnesty for these murderers? No way.
No justice...No peace.

palehorse
11th November 2022, 11:32
amnesty my arse, how dare these bastards!

thepainterdoug
11th November 2022, 11:58
a fitting quote here

Arcturian108
11th November 2022, 13:35
Excellent article by Naomi Wolf:

A Small Town, Lost to Lockdowns and Mandates

Ilive in a picture-perfect region — the Hudson Valley, memorialized by painters and poets; a patchwork of autumn reds and yellows, majestic hillsides, storied waterfalls, and little homesteads dotted picturesquely on the slopes of sleepy hamlets.

Towns in our area look like Norman Rockwell paintings: there is Main Street, Millerton, with its white 19th century church steeple, its famous Irving Farm cafe with the excellent curated coffee beans, its charming antiques mall, its popular pizzeria.

When you drive to Millerton, it looks like you are driving into the heart of archetypal America; everything that Woody Guthrie songs memorialize, everything of which American soldiers dreamt when they were far away — everything decent and pure, is to be found in Hudson Valley towns.

It sure looks that way, anyway.

But these days, I am obliged to maintain a fervent inner monologue, just so I can pleasantly go about my business in the local hardware store, in the local florist, in the post office.

Because an emotional massacre has taken place in these little towns. And now we are expected to act as if — this never happened at all.

https://brownstone.org/articles/a-small-town-lost-to-lockdowns-and-mandates/

Just read her whole article, and my favorite two sentences were the following:

"Let there be no misunderstanding. “Amnesty” for crimes of this severity and scale is not an option. There was no group hug after the liberation of Auschwitz".

norman
12th November 2022, 04:49
PANDEMIC AMNESTY? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL

Amazing Polly
November 1st, 2022

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Some of the COVID crazies are panicking - they want out, but they can't seem to take any responsibility. I cover an article in the Atlantic wherein the author proposes "Pandemic Amnesty"
Visit my website here! Thank you: https://amazingpolly.net/

Atlantic Article by Emily Oster: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/

Denis Rancourt's Mask Study: https://denisrancourt.ca/entries.php?id=8&name=2020_04_11_masks_dont_work_a_review_of_science_relevant_to_covid_19_social_policy

Rahul
12th November 2022, 13:36
As I see it, The Atlantic is representative of a large part of the English-language mainstream media. Like other media brands, it supported "the science", supported lock downs, isolation, social distancing, quarantine, PCR tests, and all the rest that we all know too painfully well about the global criminal conspiracy called covid.

During the last two to three months, the terrible rising tide of fatalities that have come to be called sudden adult death syndrome, together with more papers in mainstream science journals about widespread MRNA harm, have become very well known. A group of members of the European Parliament have forced a discussion on these matters. There are a number of independent serious law firms pursuing compensation for deaths and serious injury caused by the vaccines.

My view is that the Atlantic article is a trial balloon. Will it fly or be shot down? Sent aloft, it will attract attention. That attention will be analysed and found, I suppose, to be mostly not in favour of the "amnesty", for reasons that the globalists and their agents know only too well. I can't imagine where the idea will go from here, but it has undoubtedly been published to gauge the public mood.

Earth Angel
12th November 2022, 14:02
Toronto Ontario
My father ended up in hospital February 2021. Simply because he was found outside in the snow and my mom called an ambulance. He was 86. He was kept in and my mother was told she ALONE could see him once a week for 2 hours. He did have some dementia but was verbal, able to walk and talk no problem. No idea what was wrong with him but they felt he needed to stay. After a few days they said he had a stroke. I've always feared they jabbed him while he was in there. He went from being verbal and aware of us all to being unable to talk. No one could visit him but my poor mom who had a mild stroke the day after they took him in. They were doing absolutely nothing for him but decided they should starve him and let him die. My mother against all their advice took him home. He died there on March 9th but at least those last few days we were all able to see him and be with him.

Next came the funeral...10 people max, including the damn priest so the great grandchildren and one son in law couldn't attend the funeral. We were all seated rows apart in the church even though we told them we're family we've been together hugging and crying all week. Next thing masks required even OUTSIDE by the grave. I only wore the mask in the church for my mother's sake. She could not handle a scene. But at the grave no way.

Forgive them? NEVER

RatRodRob...RRR
14th November 2022, 05:40
I live down the bottom of "Mainland" Australia in the state of Victoria, our current Premier Dan Andrews, ive been told, is as bad as anyone on the planet including the likes of Jacinta Ardern and Trudeau, What the Premier has said and done (reportedly) to the purebloods is criminal, disgusting and immoral, he is absolutely despised by those seriously effected by his Lockdowns and Mandates (Apparently), people have lost everything in the name of "Trust the science" and get the jabb or suffer the consequences, which have been brutal.
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A few months ago i went to a Documentary in my city of Geelong called "Battleground Melbourne", its by a man named Topher Field (Topher is short for Christopher) , its an excellent Doco showing and unveiling of the monstrosities caused by the Andrews government and his police bully boys.
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Topher was at the cinema and personally greeted everyone that attended, lovely bloke too, and a completely booked out cinema, like all his other shows around Victoria etc.
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This is Topher's Doco called Battleground Melbourne, my sister and a mate also come along with me to watch this, and my sister has gone the 50miles to Melbourne to attend a few anti mandate marches/protests, one march in particular you will see a lovely police officer smash a 70yr old woman (cant remember exact age) to the bitumen where the lovely officer then preceded to spray her directly in the face as she layed down in pain.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzfJGC1_yPo
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I can see many class action law suits on the horizon, and like what this thread is about, "They" will claim ignorance, but i think they will eventually go down in a blaze of traitorism and tiranny.
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RRR

shaberon
14th November 2022, 07:09
No, again, why dodge the Elephant in the Room?


Allopathic Medicine is our most deadly enemy since its inception. It directly introduced modern Eugenics, which is the basis of Nazism, for instance in Sweden, and was not stopped in my state until 1956.

It stole credit for the sanitizing power of ordinary soap and bleach, and gave it to vaccines. The other day I read something about a nineteenth-century Dorset cottage; London hospitals were not much different. What was happening there, for example, is that interns in the morning would do cadaver research, and then they would go steal the maternity ward from the midwives, without washing their hands, obviously transferring whatever a random cadaver has, to a newborn.

So on with the "new vaccines", the AMA, American Cancer Society, all frauds. We now have a system in place to soft-kill you and steal your property. But if you say organic cherries are good for you, then you will be raided by machine-gun-toting FBI and forced to register your "product" as "a new drug".

All of them should have actually been shot in the head on day one, but instead they now command millions of dependent junkies in some bizarre three-ring circus. Did you know the timing of Covid? Right when major states like New York were about to refuse to "settle" over the "opiate crisis". Now what happened. Everybody settled. In order to even pay the settlements, they are levied from the projected future earnings of people like J & J, so, they obviously needed a cash grab.

Should we have clinics, of course, and those treatments along the lines of a medic who responds to trauma, and acute conditions, sure. But not drugs-and-surgery as god.

I would be glad to perform a massive "depopulation agenda", and I think you know who the targets would be...

Rahul
14th November 2022, 14:40
This post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119865-Let--s-declare-a-pandemic-amnesty&p=1527324&viewfull=1#post1527324) makes it very clear indeed that what was done to ordinary folks during 2020-22 was no less than the most heinous war crime.

Eric J (Viking)
14th November 2022, 20:12
We Must Never Forget

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8MfUPyQug8k/“.

You will see that this video evidence clearly demonstrates that various forms of:

1. duress;
2. intimidation;
3. harassment;
4. false imprisonment;
5. bullying;
6. enforced isolation;
7.  inhumane, degrading, cruel treatments and punishments;
8.  sanctions;
9. fines, including extortionate levels of fines; 
10. threats of imprisonment;
11. threats of enforced isolation;
12. death threats;
13. threats of refusal of critical hospital treatment; 
14. threats of loss of job;
15. threats of loss of income;
16. threats of not being able to see your family and friends and loved ones; 
17. threats of not being able to travel;
18. threats of not being able to food shop or other forms of shopping; 
19. threats of not being able to go to the theatre or gym or music concert or festival or sporting or other such event;
20. threats of not being able to go to church and worship;
21. threats of not being able to be part of society generally; 
22. threats of enforced violations of bodily integrity - including being forcibly injected and masked and tested as a live human subject in a live human experiment; 
23. threats of not being able to bury your family members or hug and comfort them at the funeral; 
24. fraud, including criminal fraud; 
25. deceit, including lying about both the safety and the efficacy of the experimental measures; 
26. discrimination, including disability, racial and age discrimination; 
27. medical apartheid;
28. crimes against humanity and threats to commit such crimes;
29. war crimes and threats to commit such crimes;
30. torture and threats to commit such crimes;
31. gross violations of human rights and threats to commit such violations;

and other such methods being used to gain “consent” to the experimental interventions.

Our rule of law, ethics, medical ethics and morals all demand that consent to any intervention that breaches our fundamental human rights must be freely given and fully informed. 

The evidence provided by the enclosed video compilation of the methods used to obtain “consent” from the public is beyond reasonable doubt (ie the criminal burden of proof) that any such “consent” obtained using the above cited methods is thereby VITIATED and null and void. 

This means that any “consent” obtained using any of the above methods is

UNLAWFUL
ILLEGAL
UNETHICAL and
IMMORAL.

This means that criminal proceedings should be commenced against each and every one of the perpetrators in this video compilation:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8MfUPyQug8k/.

“Amnesty”??

The rule of law prohibits the granting of amnesty to perpetrators of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

So - no - there will be no Amnesty.

Anna de Buisseret
U.K. Lawyer

Viking

shaberon
15th November 2022, 01:20
This means that any “consent” obtained using any of the above methods is

UNLAWFUL
ILLEGAL
UNETHICAL and
IMMORAL.




This happens to be the same as our problem in U. S. law.

The Federal Government has no jurisdiction over *anything*, until you consent.

But you are tricked and badgered into giving away your "consent", without knowing what you are doing, and with similar coercions as listed above. And of course if our Fed had no jurisdiction, it could not help itself to all these additional taxes, and so it could not possibly function as it does, and none of this would have ever happened.

At all.

The more common word for "consent" is "citizenship".

As soon as you agree to that, you give the Fed and every other kind of similar entity the right to steal your labor, property, and obviously even your children. And, oh my, they can even use every possible military tactic and even genocide, because they are effectively pardoned by you to begin with. That's called "asking for it".

That's how it works, and, I would certainly not consider an amnesty for a class that changed the laws and made a nation forget what the Revolution, 1812, and Northern Aggression were fought for.

It is physically possible, but quite difficult, to release oneself from the Federal grasp. However, this same argument, about coercion, could perhaps nullify all the contracts. Then it could automatically prosecute all the war crimes.

Other places like the UK, you would effectively be suing for damages, because no other place has this type of Constitution which actually grants liberty to the individual. Or, rather, it forbids the government from infringing upon you. "You" don't have any "Constitutional rights", because it is not about you. Its powers are not much more than the ability to make Treaties, and to have import tariffs as a source of revenue. Doesn't take very many people, and it barely does anything else.

But, when you consent, it will take billions of dollars, and help someone to inject whatever they want into your bloodstream.

Maybe the Plandemic will help educate everyone in these legal matters. The survivors, that is.

The perpetrators might even realize that they will be safer in prison than the outside.