China spying and cyberwarfare

[TomKat]

The most evil country in the world is very active on the internet and monitors everybody's social media posts. A Chinese woman returning from Europe was arrested for "liking" A post critical of China's dictator. while she was in Europe.

A Chinese whistleblower in Australia:
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TikTok US election meddling

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Gathering DNA and biometric data
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXPnXNQpTOs
Enforcing obedience in social media
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[TomKat]

No forum is too small for the CCP to become interested. Don't be surpriseds if you find Chinese agents on Avalon.

[Bill Ryan]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

[avid]

And disgusted with the UK jeopardising our safety, economy, and this undemocratic corrupt bought and paid for fake government starving our folk to death in debt. Utterly reprehensible, yet we just let them get away with it!!! WTF!!!!

[TomKat]

maybe you have to be there
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[Vangelo]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Really?

Admittedly, the US government has done many horrific things, but for me, they don't compare to some of the things done by the governments of other countries.

Having said that, I see no value in participating in a 'tit for tat' comparing the evil acts of different countries.

[rgray222]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Bill this is an extremely bold statement to make and warrants some explanation. If you feel so strongly about this I would recommend that you start a thread with exactly that title. [The USA is the Most Evil Country in the World] It will no doubt be exceptionally contentious but I think an explanation is certainly in order.

[onawah]

Secret Service: Chinese Hacker Group Stole $20 Million; Youtube Accused of Censoring China Protests
China in Focus - NTD
702K subscribers
11,091 views
12/6/22

⭕ Watch the full episode on EpochTV 👉https://ept.ms/ChineseHacker20M_YT

Chinese state-linked #Hackers made off with $20 million of pandemic relief funds, according to #SecretService.

#Youtube is accused of moderating content tied to anti-lockdown #Protests in China. A Youtuber shares his discovery.

A mega semiconductor project in the United States is getting $40 billion from a Taiwanese company.

The United States may be upping its weapons deal with Taiwan—valued at over $880 million with advanced missiles.

China is holding a memorial for former communist leader Jiang Zemin. We look at the details of his time in power.

00:00 Intro
00:53 Secret Service: Chinese Hacker Group Stole $20M
02:44 Youtube Accused of Censoring China Protests
05:32 Biden Celebrates Mega Semiconductor Project, Visits Taiwanese Chipmaker Plant in Arizona
07:07 Nanjing University Students Protest Lockdowns
08:10 Beijing Airports Drop Need for Negative Virus Test
08:52 U.S. Proposes Upgrade to Taiwan Weapons Package
10:28 China Holds Funeral for Fmr CCP Head Jiang Zemin
12:27 Experts: How China’s one-child rule backfired 'brutality peaked under Jiang Zemin'
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It's not a matter of a country being evil--it's a matter of the various psychopaths who work behind the scenes all over the world toward the same kinds of dystopian goals.
But we already have threads about the NWO, and though that may go by different names in different parts of the world, it really comes to the same thing in the end.
It's a spiritual war the world is engaged in now, more than ever, and that has little to do with nationalities, but much to do with souls.


No forum is too small for the CCP to become interested. Don't be surprised if you find Chinese agents on Avalon.


The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Bill this is an extremely bold statement to make and warrants some explanation. If you feel so strongly about this I would recommend that you start a thread with exactly that title. [The USA is the Most Evil Country in the World] It will no doubt be exceptionally contentious but I think an explanation is certainly in order.

[s7e6e]

No forum is too small for the CCP to become interested. Don't be surpriseds if you find Chinese agents on Avalon.

They are already here, from multiple agencies not just CCP's.

[TomKat]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Really?

Admittedly, the US government has done many horrific things, but for me, they don't compare to some of the things done by the governments of other countries.
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Having said that, I see no value in participating in a 'tit for tat' comparing the evil acts of different countries.

Maybe the US should make up for its horrific deeds by nuking the hell out of Beijing?

[Vangelo]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Really?

Admittedly, the US government has done many horrific things, but for me, they don't compare to some of the things done by the governments of other countries.
coul
Having said that, I see no value in participating in a 'tit for tat' comparing the evil acts of different countries.

Maybe the US should make up for its horrific deeds by nuking the hell out of Beijing?

Really?

I am only responding to state that I don't support your sentiment.

[Tintin]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Yup........

[Harmony]

Evil or the absence of care and love is the same in any nation and knows no boundaries and will seep in where ever it is able to. Love and care know no boundaries and is welcomed in with open hearts and knows no boundaries. May we choose love and care and peace that is so great and bountiful that nothing else can exist.

[Le Chat]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Yup........

Would you care to elaborate?

[ExomatrixTV]

No forum is too small for the CCP to become interested. Don't be surprised if you find Chinese agents on Avalon.

Big chance that (almost) all "potential" future enemies of totalitarianism (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum) & technocracy (http://technocracy.news) (Agenda2030/NetZero2050 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset)) are known to multiple mass A.I (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-) surveillance systems used in the USA & multiple mass A.I (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-) surveillance systems used in China!

Deep State minions on both sides using that intel in both countries ... and NONE OF THEM represent "the common people" ... meanwhile, both sides suppress real global solutions like countless suppressed inventions that can make all of us having a different fate ... Let that sink in for a moment (...)

It is super easy to blame "a country" ... eventually all are serving a specific agenda (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset) and none of them are backed by "the people" ... All perception wars aka MSM brainwashing 24/7 producing people having a Tunnel Vision perspectives pushed to repeat the Dystopian Tunnel Vision narratives (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118748-Top-10-Creepiest-Most-Dystopian-Things-Pushed-By-The-World-Economic-Forum).

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
December 7th, 2022 🦜🦋🌳

[Tintin]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Yup........

Would you care to elaborate?

(Holding reply): for sure, I will. I've just got in from work so am checking in on messages. I will elaborate further before the weekend :highfive:

[Bill Ryan]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Yup........

Would you care to elaborate?

(Holding reply): for sure, I will. I've just got in from work so am checking in on messages. I will elaborate further before the weekend :highfive:Here's just one new thing. (Would you like 75 more? :P)

https://twitter.com/thatdayin1992/status/1600576626806374438
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[Vangelo]

I was going to Like this post because I agree with "What a joke. This is a man who refuses to attend peace talks and is working overtime to start a nuclear WWIII. He should be named the most dangerous person of the year."

Then I realized this is offered as evidence that the US is the most evil country in the world.... So that leads me to ask, when you say the US is the most evil country in the world, are you referring to the government, the US MSM (as evidenced by Time magazine), the populace, all of the above, or something else?

[rgray222]

Here's just one new thing. (Would you like 75 more? :P)

https://twitter.com/thatdayin1992/status/1600576626806374438
1600576626806374438

Bill

I have no doubt that I could easily give you 75 reasons why China, Russia, Ukraine, or the United Kingdom is the most evil country on the planet. in my view there is a huge difference to what is happening in and to the USA and it being an evil country.

I am not sure how your example cast the USA as the most evil country in the world.

Time person of the year is not an award, it is a statement regarding which person had the most influence (for better or worse) on the world (not just the USA) during the year. For example a few of the previous winners.


Adolf Hitler - 1938
Joseph Stalin (Twice) - 1939 & 1942
Nikita Khrushchev -1957
Richard Nixon - 1972
Ayatollah Khomeini - 1979
Vladimir Putin -2007

The following was taken from Time and Wikipedia

Time's "Person of the Year" is not always a person. It can be a person, group, idea, or thing that for better or for worse...that has had the most to influence (good or bad) the events of the year".This means that being chosen is not an award, like being chosen as the "best person of the year." The Person of the Year may be an enemy of the United States, like Adolf Hitler (1938) or Joseph Stalin (1939 and 1942). Every year, Time chooses the person who they think has had the most effect on the things that have happened in that year (whether those things were good or bad).

[B]This entire discussion seems off-topic for this thread.

[onawah]

Let's be clear.
It's precisely because the US was for such a long time the country that enjoyed the most in human rights and freedom, which is why the US is now the most heavily targeted nation by the demonic NWO, which desperately wants to erase that history and bring all the freedom-loving citizens of the US under their subjegation.
Freedom that was won at dear cost from Great Britian and the tyranny of the Royals during the Revolutionary War in 1775-83.
They are using the horrible tactics of the CCP now as their model.
The real question to my thinking is, is the real source of this agenda actually human, or is from off-planet, or from an altogether different dimension?

It brings to mind the early Christians and their warnings :
"Ephesians 6:12-18
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord's people."

...Although those prophets were by no means the only prophets throughout history who have warned against the inhumane and anti-life machinations of Darkness, and of their efforts to conquer in these times of the Shift.

[onawah]

Report: China Operates 100+ Overseas Police Stations; China Loosens COVID-19 Curbs in Policy Shift
China in Focus - NTD
702K subscribers
Dec 7, 2022
⭕ Watch the full episode on EpochTV 👉https://ept.ms/ChinesePoliceOutpost_YT

"The most sweeping changes since the #pandemic began have been made to China’s COVID-19 policy. Will the loosened rules spell good news for the #economy?

But another challenge is waiting on the horizon. According to a virologist, “the trouble with the zero COVID policy is that overall, few people have had infections.”

Nearly 50 more Chinese police #outposts around the globe have been exposed by a new report.

Three U.S. states have taken aim at social media app TikTok within a week. The platform is now banned from government devices there.

Washington is halting its microchip curbs on China. Struggling to comply with the original law, trade groups are pushing for more relaxed rules."

00:00 Intro
00:54 China Loosens COVID-19 Curbs in Major Policy Shift
03:13 Chinese Citizens Buy Medical Supplies as Rules Ease
04:04 Protests Continue, Students Gather in Two Colleges
04:54 Study: Chinese Citizens Reluctant to Travel Abroad
05:44 Easing Curbs Might Trigger Large Scale Infection: Virologist on China’s Zero COVID-19 Policy
07:55 Report: China Operates 100+ Overseas Police Stations
09:26 Three States Ban TikTok from Government Devices
10:22 U.S. Lawmakers Ease Planned Curbs on Chinese Chips
11:38 U.S. Lawmakers Warn of Chinese Shipping Platform
12:44 Blinken, Austin Meet with Australian Counterparts

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[onawah]

The question of how well the Chinese people will be able to fight the agenda of the CCP is difficult to predict.
If the CCP succeeds in coming up with a "VAXX" that proves to be as deadly as the ones that have been decimating the populations of other countries (as reports say the CCP are working on doing), and force the Chinese people to accept the jabs, then that question will become much more a moot one.
But there are signs that in the US the fight is proceeding, because the censorship agenda hasn't succeeded here as yet nearly as much as it has already in China. :facemask::silent::ballchain:
As can be seen by this hopeful example from today:

TODAY: Sen. Ron Johnson Will Lead Roundtable on COVID-19 Vaccines, Protecting Your Rights at the Hospital + More
on CHD.TV
from:Children's Health Defense <team@childrenshealthdefense.org>

Roundtable discussion video at:
https://chdorgproduction.gatsbyjs.io/chd-tv/events/covid-19-vaccines-what-they-are-how-they-work-and-possible-causes-of/covid19-vaccines-what-they-are-how-they-work-and-possible-causes-of-injuries (https://chdorgproduction.gatsbyjs.io/chd-tv/events/covid-19-vaccines-what-they-are-how-they-work-and-possible-causes-of/covid19-vaccines-what-they-are-how-they-work-and-possible-causes-of-injuries/)

https://rumble.com/v1zf6ma-covid-19-vaccines-what-they-are-how-they-work-and-possible-causes-of-injuri.html
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If the anti-vaxx movement succeeds in the US, it will make it much more difficult for the VAXX to be accepted without protest in China, as long as the struggle for free speech continues in China.
Otherwise, it is unlikely the Chinese people will be alerted in time to avoid the same sad fate as so many in the US and other countries have succumbed to and/or are now facing.

[Tintin]

No forum is too small for the CCP to become interested. Don't be surpriseds if you find Chinese agents on Avalon.

They are already here, from multiple agencies not just CCP's.

Really? :)

Contact us via PM with names of suspected moles please

[XelNaga]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Hi Bill,

It definitely is, USA is the empire of pure evil and degeneracy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, in my humble opinion, biased or ignorant.

Every country/government in the world is evil in it's own way, but there is a huge difference between them and the US.

These other countries/governments are evil toward their own people, and perhaps a couple of neighbouring countries.

US, on the other hand, is bringing death, poverty and destruction all across the world, along with their EU/NATO puppets. That is what makes US the worst scumbag country in modern times.

[TomKat]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Hi Bill,

It definitely is, USA is the empire of pure evil and degeneracy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, in my humble opinion, biased or ignorant.

Every country/government in the world is evil in it's own way, but there is a huge difference between them and the US.

These other countries/governments are evil toward their own people, and perhaps a couple of neighbouring countries.

US, on the other hand, is bringing death, poverty and destruction all across the world, along with their EU/NATO puppets. That is what makes US the worst scumbag country in modern times.

But stop shooting up power stations, please. :-)

[XelNaga]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Hi Bill,

It definitely is, USA is the empire of pure evil and degeneracy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, in my humble opinion, biased or ignorant.

Every country/government in the world is evil in it's own way, but there is a huge difference between them and the US.

These other countries/governments are evil toward their own people, and perhaps a couple of neighbouring countries.

US, on the other hand, is bringing death, poverty and destruction all across the world, along with their EU/NATO puppets. That is what makes US the worst scumbag country in modern times.

But stop shooting up power stations, please.

Sorry TomKat, but I don't know what you mean by this.

[Isserley]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Yup........

It depends on what is meant by the most evil country in the world.
No country is evil if it is judging by the majority of the population who really just want to live their lives in peace. Political elites are an evil factor of all countries, unfortunately.
This is a thread about China - because China is currently carrying out an open crime against its people.
->> zero covid dystopia, locking the doors of buildings so that no one can get out, people remain hungry for days, constant testing and dependence on the green code on the mobile phone to be able to study somewhere or get transport, work, the government can remotely turn on the red code for anyone and take them to one of the countless huge concentration camps with containers, complete censorship of the Internet, messages, conversations... all based on an illusion and a violent struggle for absolute control. Its demonic <<-

The US is a different kind of evil - they sow the seeds of lies and war around the world under the guise of peace // what an irony.. but the US citizens are still kind of free compared to China.

But for me the most evil country is ...... Switzerland :)

Switzerland projects an image of idyllic mountains and beautiful lakes, with pretty historic cities, chocolate and watches..
This country claims it’s neutral, but accepts terrorist money and sends weapons offshore to countries that are at war.
Switzerland served as a repository for Jewish capital smuggled out of Nazi Germany and the states threatened by it, and also for vast quantities of gold and other valuables plundered from Jews and others all over Europe. Right up until the end of the war, Switzerland laundered hundreds of millions of dollars in stolen assets, including gold taken from the central banks of German-occupied Europe and thats only the beginning of the story of Switzerland (there is also CERN..) and fake neutrality of that country.

[Denise/Dizi]

Wow... Not touching this with a ten foot pole!

[TomKat]

I just heard a C-Milk podcast where he explains why China is so jealous of Taiwan. He explains that mainland China is what's left of Chinese culture after decades of Maoist reformation, whereas Taiwan culture is actual Chinese culture, untouched by Maoist immitation Stalinism.

[TomKat]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Hi Bill,

It definitely is, USA is the empire of pure evil and degeneracy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, in my humble opinion, biased or ignorant.

Every country/government in the world is evil in it's own way, but there is a huge difference between them and the US.

These other countries/governments are evil toward their own people, and perhaps a couple of neighbouring countries.

US, on the other hand, is bringing death, poverty and destruction all across the world, along with their EU/NATO puppets. That is what makes US the worst scumbag country in modern times.

But stop shooting up power stations, please.

Sorry TomKat, but I don't know what you mean by this.

A joke. somebody who hates the USA has been shooting up electric power sttations and shutting down power in various cities.

[Bill Ryan]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Hi Bill,

It definitely is, USA is the empire of pure evil and degeneracy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, in my humble opinion, biased or ignorant.

Every country/government in the world is evil in it's own way, but there is a huge difference between them and the US.

These other countries/governments are evil toward their own people, and perhaps a couple of neighbouring countries.

US, on the other hand, is bringing death, poverty and destruction all across the world, along with their EU/NATO puppets. That is what makes US the worst scumbag country in modern times.

But stop shooting up power stations, please.

Sorry TomKat, but I don't know what you mean by this.

A joke. somebody who hates the USA has been shooting up electric power stations and shutting down power in various cities.Ah.

You don't really understand a thing about what's happening in the world, do you? :)

[onawah]

The US government has certainly done a lot of evil, including the decimation of the Native Americans due to the racist mindset imported from Europe ( and assisted greatly by the depredations of smallpox).
But the ideals and sentiments of the authors of the Constitution and the Bill or Rights were finally beginning to be realized when JFK was assassinated, and it's been pretty much downhill from there.
In spite of all that, immigrants continue to flock to the US borders with hopes for a life full of freedoms unavailable in their countrys of origin, and there is a good reason for that.
But those freedoms are being eroded so quickly now that the US is not far from becoming just another trap.
For a while at least, it was an example of hope and what could be, :star: and the loss of that is the world's loss.

Let's be clear.
It's precisely because the US was for such a long time the country that enjoyed the most in human rights and freedom, which is why the US is now the most heavily targeted nation by the demonic NWO, which desperately wants to erase that history and bring all the freedom-loving citizens of the US under their subjegation.
Freedom that was won at dear cost from Great Britian and the tyranny of the Royals during the Revolutionary War in 1775-83.
They are using the horrible tactics of the CCP now as their model.
The real question to my thinking is, is the real source of this agenda actually human, or is from off-planet, or from an altogether different dimension?

It brings to mind the early Christians and their warnings :
"Ephesians 6:12-18
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord's people."

...Although those prophets were by no means the only prophets throughout history who have warned against the inhumane and anti-life machinations of Darkness, and of their efforts to conquer in these times of the Shift.

[Bill Ryan]

somebody who hates the USA has been shooting up electric power stations and shutting down power in various cities.You don't really understand a thing about what's happening in the world, do you? :)I should be fair, and expand on this.


Putin doesn't 'hate' the USA. Read his speeches. He wants a multipolar world of sovereign nations, the US having its place among them on equal terms.

He's very critical of some aspects of US foreign policy and cultural/societal manipulation, but I am too. And I don't 'hate' the USA either. I do, however, feel that its leaders and behind-the-scenes Deep State architects are evil, and there's a ton and a half of evidence to demonstrate that.



Russian strikes on Ukrainian power stations and other infrastructure are a legitimate part of warfare, the primary intention being to disempower the military. The US did the same (and sometimes worse) in Iraq. Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, and Vietnam.

It's not like the US-condoned daily shelling of Donbass citizens for the last 8 years.... but you know about that, yes?

[Bill Ryan]

An exchange between Sue (Ayt) and myself on the moderators Discord chat: :)

~~~
Sue: Bill - I think TomKat may be talking about the snipers who are shooting out power stations in the US. He likely suspects the Chinese, or illegal immigrants.

Bill: Ah! Yes, you're probably right :bigsmile:

Sue: TomKat hardly keeps an eye on Russia/Ukraine. He doesn't participate in that thread much, does he? (But I could be wrong, and missed stuff there.) He may actually be quite ignorant about the whole thing. Many US folks are

Bill: I do think you're 100% right... maybe you should block me from that thread of his :P

Sue: haha - Good idea! I can put a Please Revise banner up. lol

[onawah]

Much of the evil that the US is being held accountable for is a result of Nazis who came to the US after WW2 and assumed powerful positions in the government.
As to who was responsible for that, I can't say, but Eisenhower didn't seem to be very pleased about it, so I think it's safe to say he didn't have much to do with it, if anything.
Whoever was responsible can be credited with much of the resulting evil that came in the years following.
And Germany's government certainly belongs on the evil list!

[XelNaga]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Hi Bill,

It definitely is, USA is the empire of pure evil and degeneracy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, in my humble opinion, biased or ignorant.

Every country/government in the world is evil in it's own way, but there is a huge difference between them and the US.

These other countries/governments are evil toward their own people, and perhaps a couple of neighbouring countries.

US, on the other hand, is bringing death, poverty and destruction all across the world, along with their EU/NATO puppets. That is what makes US the worst scumbag country in modern times.

But stop shooting up power stations, please.

Sorry TomKat, but I don't know what you mean by this.

A joke. somebody who hates the USA has been shooting up electric power sttations and shutting down power in various cities.

Good one :ROFL: I didn't know about that happening over there :facepalm:

[Vangelo]

An exchange between Sue (Ayt) and myself on the moderators Discord chat: :)

~~~
Sue: Bill - I think TomKat may be talking about the snipers who are shooting out power stations in the US. He likely suspects the Chinese, or illegal immigrants.

Bill: Ah! Yes, you're probably right :bigsmile:

Sue: TomKat hardly keeps an eye on Russia/Ukraine. He doesn't participate in that thread much, does he? (But I could be wrong, and missed stuff there.) He may actually be quite ignorant about the whole thing. Many US folks are

Bill: I do think you're 100% right... maybe you should block me from that thread of his :P

Sue: haha - Good idea! I can put a Please Revise banner up. lol

It seems to me that the Please Revise banner belongs on the post above, not because of what you have said to each other but because of the fact that you made it public.

Are you trying to bully TomKat into leaving the forum?

[norman]

meanwhile, back at the ranch . . . .


Secret CCP “police stations” discovered in LA, NYC
Thursday, December 08, 2022 by: Ramon Tomey

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-12-08-secret-ccp-police-stations-found-la-nyc.html


https://www.naturalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2022/12/china-barbed-wire.jpg


Secret “police stations” operated by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) had been discovered in Los Angeles (LA) and New York City (NYC) (https://www.theepochtimes.com/2-more-secret-ccp-police-stations-discovered-in-la-and-new-york-report_4909946.html).

In a Dec. 5 update to its earlier findings, nonprofit Safeguard Defenders revealed the existence of 48 new overseas police stations tied to Beijing – with two previously unknown facilities in LA and NYC among the new discoveries. All in all, the group discovered more than 100 such outposts spread out across 53 countries across the globe.

According to Safeguard Defenders, these facilities have been used by the CCP to carry out a campaign of repression aimed at dissidents.

The report elaborated that the police stations in NYC and LA, overseen by the Wenzhou Public Security Bureau based in the eastern coastal Chinese province of Zhejiang, were established in 2018. At first glance, the facilities were allegedly created to assist Chinese immigrants in foreign countries with tasks normally assigned to a consulate such as renewing driver’s licenses and visas.

However, the CCP’s United Front Work Department (UFWD) appears to be increasingly linked to the foreign outposts. The UFWD seeks to advance Beijing’s interests abroad by spreading propaganda, conducting foreign influence operations, suppressing dissident movements, gathering intelligence and facilitating the transfer of technology to the mainland. (Related: China opened overseas police stations in multiple countries to monitor citizens living abroad (https://naturalnews.com/2022-10-13-china-opened-overseas-police-stations-abroad.html).)

Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY) blasted Beijing’s encroachment in an email to the Epoch Times. She had been among several Republican lawmakers who demanded an explanation from Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Attorney General Merrick Garland for the facilities’ existence.

“It’s outrageous that the Chinese government is exercising extraterritorial law enforcement on U.S. soil,” Malliotakis wrote. “It should be a top priority of Blinken and Garland to shut down these stations to protect our Chinese-American constituents and our nation’s sovereignty from foreign encroachment.”

UFWD-linked Chinese outposts also found in Europe

Aside from the U.S., the CCP also established similar outposts across Europe (https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/09/18/communist-china-operating-unofficial-police-stations-in-uk-and-europe-to-hunt-down-blackmail-and-return-criminals-abroad/).

Citing the Telegraph, Breitbart reported on two such police stations in the British capital London. One of the facilities is registered as a real estate agency, while the other is registered as a food delivery office. A third police outpost, located in the city of Glasgow, is registered as a Chinese restaurant.

Reporters from the British publication visited the two London-based stations, which both denied links to the UFWD when asked.

The Netherlands is also home to two such facilities (https://dutchreview.com/news/china-has-illegal-police-stations-in-netherlands/), according to DutchReview. CCP outposts had been active in the city of Rotterdam and the capital Amsterdam since 2018. The Dutch government ordered the immediate closure of both overseas police stations, citing the failure of Beijing to inform Amsterdam of their existence.

“This is yet another example of how China is infiltrating the Netherlands,” said Dutch lawmaker Ruben Brekelmans. His fellow legislator Sjoerd Sjoerdsma agreed, saying: “Now that it is clear that these two secret police stations operate illegally here, we can hardly wait a day. These activities must be stopped as soon as possible, and the stations must be closed.”

Peter Dahlin, the founder of Safeguarding Defenders, put in his two cents on the issue.

“Considering that the U.S., Canada and Australia are, by far, the most popular countries for overseas Chinese, one would have expected more stations around those. Yet, it may point toward an already well-established network of ‘overseas’ or ‘Chinese diaspora’ associations in those places, unlike in Europe,” he told Breitbart.

“We were somewhat surprised to see the heavy focus on Europe among the 54 stations Safeguard Defenders have so far uncovered. There are bound to be many more as Chinese government documents indicate, yet the focus on Europe is striking.”

CommunistChina.news (https://communistchina.news/) has more stories about the CCP’s overseas police stations in different countries.

Watch this G-Times News report about the CCP’s overseas police outposts in Canada.

https://www.brighteon.com/9a36da92-9aff-48ce-b9a8-a9767743148f


More related stories:

“Return to China or commit suicide:” FBI Director says China’s “Fox Hunt” program a way to silence and imprison Chinese dissidents abroad. (https://nationalsecurity.news/2020-07-12-return-to-china-commit-suicide-fox-hunt-program.html)

China establishes ‘police stations’ in countries around the world to spy on, interdict Chinese citizens living abroad. (https://communistchina.news/2022-10-09-china-establishes-police-stations-in-countries-around-the-world.html)

China established “remote” police stations in CANADA to retrieve its own citizens for deportation. (https://communistchina.news/2022-10-02-china-report-police-stations-canada-citizens-deportation.html)

China has a SECRET detention facility in Dubai to imprison dissidents. (https://communistchina.news/2021-08-18-china-secret-detention-facility-dubai-imprison-dissidents.html)

[Bill Ryan]

Are you trying to bully TomKat into leaving the forum?I was attempting to inject a little humor — poking fun at myself, admitting I'd almost certainly got the whole thing wrong. :)

[TomKat]

Are you trying to bully TomKat into leaving the forum?I was attempting to inject a little humor — poking fun at myself, admitting I'd almost certainly got the whole thing wrong. :)



Lately I've been getting overly worked up about China's police state communism that seems to be the inspiration for the Democrat party in the USA. Also, their blatant purchase of a US president, really pisses me off. I think Bill was just balancing the scales after my anti-China rant.

[Ewan]

I would have thought by now that the majority would realise when a country comes up in discussion, and a label like 'evil' or any other negative adjective gets used, the commenter is not talking about the populace of a country but rather its political machinations. Those actions which frequently, and sometimes inevitably, lead to negative results elsewhere.

Now a discussion regarding levels of awarenss of a countries populace, or to how much they have been indoctrinated would be an entirely different conversation. Ultimately there would not be a lot of difference if we ranked them against an imaginary fully aware populace. They would all be a distant joint second place. So it might be a rather fruitless conversation.

I remember when Bush was using a phrase as often as he could about the 'axis of evil' and naming Iran, Iraq, and North Korea as the culprits. I was meanwhile thinking, with a derisive snort, that he should be saying the US, UK and Israel. Did anyone at that time think he was talking about the populace of those countries, or their governments and political ideologies?

Then why are we raising the question here?

[TomKat]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Really?

Admittedly, the US government has done many horrific things, but for me, they don't compare to some of the things done by the governments of other countries.
coul
Having said that, I see no value in participating in a 'tit for tat' comparing the evil acts of different countries.

Maybe the US should make up for its horrific deeds by nuking the hell out of Beijing?

Really?

I am only responding to state that I don't support your sentiment.

Of course not. But China has been installing police stations in North America to keep an eye on Chinese citizens abroad, and I assume mayors like NYC mayor Eric Adams are being paid off to allow it. I'm probably more pissed at the Democrats than their Chinese paymaster.

[Vangelo]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.

Really?

Admittedly, the US government has done many horrific things, but for me, they don't compare to some of the things done by the governments of other countries.
coul
Having said that, I see no value in participating in a 'tit for tat' comparing the evil acts of different countries.

Maybe the US should make up for its horrific deeds by nuking the hell out of Beijing?

Really?

I am only responding to state that I don't support your sentiment.

Of course not. But China has been installing police stations in North America to keep an eye on Chinese citizens abroad, and I assume mayors like NYC mayor Eric Adams are being paid off to allow it. I'm probably more pissed at the Democrats than their Chinese paymaster.

The feeling is mutual but I don't limit my anger to the Democrats. I don't really see a difference between them and the RINOs (Republican's In Name Only).

[Vangelo]

I would have thought by now that the majority would realise when a country comes up in discussion, and a label like 'evil' or any other negative adjective gets used, the commenter is not talking about the populace of a country but rather its political machinations. Those actions which frequently, and sometimes inevitably, lead to negative results elsewhere.

Now a discussion regarding levels of awarenss of a countries populace, or to how much they have been indoctrinated would be an entirely different conversation. Ultimately there would not be a lot of difference if we ranked them against an imaginary fully aware populace. They would all be a distant joint second place. So it might be a rather fruitless conversation.

I remember when Bush was using a phrase as often as he could about the 'axis of evil' and naming Iran, Iraq, and North Korea as the culprits. I was meanwhile thinking, with a derisive snort, that he should be saying the US, UK and Israel. Did anyone at that time think he was talking about the populace of those countries, or their governments and political ideologies?

Then why are we raising the question here?

As always, I find your posts to be well stated, pragmatic, and thoughtful. Thank you.

RE: I would have thought by now that the majority would realise when a country comes up in discussion, and a label like 'evil' or any other negative adjective gets used, the commenter is not talking about the populace of a country but rather its political machinations.

Yes, that is indeed my normal point of view. However, within this thread, there were comments made that lead me to question that presumption and I even posted a request for clarification. No response was given. Looking back at that post, I should have properly quoted the people I was addressing with my question. There is no need to pursue it any further, I think maybe I was being a bit overly sensitive.

RE: Ultimately there would not be a lot of difference if we ranked them against an imaginary fully aware populace. They would all be a distant joint second place. So it might be a rather fruitless conversation.

This is indeed an interesting way to look at the issue and I unfortunately agree with your assessment that the vast majority of the populace in each country would be unaware. The only caveat for me is that I believe more and more every day Americans are beginning to see that our politicians and govt agencies are not to be trusted (as is evidenced by the numbers of people who now question the legitimacy of our election system).

[TomKat]

My frustration with th the sneaky CCP is explained here:

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[onawah]

Jimmy Dore ended his recent show about Julian Assange with what is a fair assessment of how little integrity the US government has today, and how little the public seems to be aware of that, although it is beginning to:

Warmongers CONFRONTED By Journalist At National Press Club Event .dec 9, 2022
During a recent symposium at the National Press Club about the prosecution of Julian Assange, The Grayzone reporter Max Blumenthal asked DC attorney and Assange critic Mark Zaid whether prosecutors should really be depending on testimony from an admitted pedophile and liar like Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson, who has since recanted his allegations, to convict Assange.

Jimmy plays a video of the interaction and then he and Max discuss the weaselly way Zaid attempts to dodge the question and suggests that Assange will get a fair trial in the U.S.----EWAV4rK7u9Q
Read Max's work at The Grayzone here: http://thegrayzone.


I would have thought by now that the majority would realise when a country comes up in discussion, and a label like 'evil' or any other negative adjective gets used, the commenter is not talking about the populace of a country but rather its political machinations. Those actions which frequently, and sometimes inevitably, lead to negative results elsewhere.

Now a discussion regarding levels of awarenss of a countries populace, or to how much they have been indoctrinated would be an entirely different conversation. Ultimately there would not be a lot of difference if we ranked them against an imaginary fully aware populace. They would all be a distant joint second place. So it might be a rather fruitless conversation.

I remember when Bush was using a phrase as often as he could about the 'axis of evil' and naming Iran, Iraq, and North Korea as the culprits. I was meanwhile thinking, with a derisive snort, that he should be saying the US, UK and Israel. Did anyone at that time think he was talking about the populace of those countries, or their governments and political ideologies?

Then why are we raising the question here?

As always, I find your posts to be well stated, pragmatic, and thoughtful. Thank you.

RE: I would have thought by now that the majority would realise when a country comes up in discussion, and a label like 'evil' or any other negative adjective gets used, the commenter is not talking about the populace of a country but rather its political machinations.

Yes, that is indeed my normal point of view. However, within this thread, there were comments made that lead me to question that presumption and I even posted a request for clarification. No response was given. Looking back at that post, I should have properly quoted the people I was addressing with my question. There is no need to pursue it any further, I think maybe I was being a bit overly sensitive.

RE: Ultimately there would not be a lot of difference if we ranked them against an imaginary fully aware populace. They would all be a distant joint second place. So it might be a rather fruitless conversation.

This is indeed an interesting way to look at the issue and I unfortunately agree with your assessment that the vast majority of the populace in each country would be unaware. The only caveat for me is that I believe more and more every day Americans are beginning to see that our politicians and govt agencies are not to be trusted (as is evidenced by the numbers of people who now question the legitimacy of our election system).

[onawah]

You Have to Let it Happen

Bumping this thread with some very insightful words of wisdom from Alan Watts, beginning at 13 minutes into the video, about how Democracy inevitably becomes Fascism...
And at 16 minutes in, about why a wise King keeps the Court Fool :jester: close by, to remind the King that he too is only human, and not to give himself airs and graces, and to remember that there are forces and domains far beyond his...
And finally, that it is very difficult in our present world to abandon nationality.
(Themes that may also apply to the discussion in the thread "China Spying and Cyberwarfare". )

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[ozmirage]

The most evil country in the world...... is the USA.
_ _ From one perspective, America is the MOST DANGEROUS country. For if our republican form became dominant, and we prospered, it would trigger revolts across the planet, to the dismay of the POWERS THAT BE. So it is vital to stymie America and destroy her reputation, by any means, fair and foul.
_ _ Despite being the only nation with a republican form (no connection with "a republic"), not 1 in 100,000 Americans can accurately define it, its source and origin. Yet all facts are available in the public record, at any county courthouse law library. That is a fantastic victory for the world's greatest propaganda ministry.
_ _ Americans are doggedly determined to be arrogant and defensive about their ignorance of law and history, and yet apathetic about learning their own laws. SMH.

[kfm27917]

american Spy balloons

http://www.hisutton.com/US-Navy-CIA-Submarine-Launched-Spy-Balloons.html

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/JoshMeyerDC/status/1663887418913693697?s=20

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