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Michi
19th December 2022, 14:52
Inspired from Bill's recent post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120126-The-reincarnation-error&p=1533926&viewfull=1#post1533926) and Wegge's nudge (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120126-The-reincarnation-error&p=1533931&viewfull=1#post1533931) I would like to make the beginning of an apparent never discussed subject: What do I do, after I discard the body?
Many "in the know" have written books or articles about what happens to the being or soul, when it leaves the body. To mention a few:
Michael Newton (https://www.newtoninstitute.org/)
William Buhlman (https://astralinfo.org/)
Wayne Bush (http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/index.html)
Cameron Day (http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/)
Wes Penre (https://wespenre.com/)
Jürgen Ziewe (https://www.youtube.com/@jurgenziewe9125/featured)
TrumanCash (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions)
and last mention is L.Ron Hubbard to some extent - but more through the help of others.The free remainder of his works are ethically pursued by Rons Org (https://ronsorg.ch/).
Other endeavors in that direction are made by https://nderf.org/ and https://farsight.org/
Based on my studies in the above, I have come to the following insights:
A being has become in the course of his countless past reincarnations and adventures and wars and traps quite batten down and ignorant of his capabilities and subsequently chooses on and on the same games he either won or lost.
It takes then quite some determination of the being (soul) to say: "That's it - I had enough." and pull him self together (also literally - re-unite with his splits) and go on a journey to recuperate.
I see this earth still mainly as a circus arena to serve some other species game, (like SIMS) where EVERY life form survives only by feeding on other life forms. And our earth is carefully kept in balance in order to keep the show going.
Thus (drum roll) my future journey is to educate myself further without a meat body in order to make better choices and don't touch enchanting earths not even with a million yard pole stick.
My ideal environment would be a community of free beings on the journey of new adventures, keeping a backup when things go south.
What's your journey?
wondering
19th December 2022, 15:03
Hi Michi, Good post. I am not sure about much that happens after death, but I do believe, true or not, that we can choose to do many different things. What appeals to me the most is to continue learning, learning, learning. I don't know at what point I might choose to do that in celestial, inter dimensional or other venues (lol) but I do hope that I don't automatically return here. I think we are at the threshold of learning so much about who we are and what Earth really is, particularly the ways in which we have been deceived amd deprived of our power. I think we are enormously powerful beings and if we can really "get" that, future choices (or concurrent lifetime choices) will be made from a very different understanding. My hope is that I will live long enough to really take in these truths and thereby make much better, broader, wiser choices.
ian33
19th December 2022, 15:56
my unfulfilled desire(which is what i believe brings us back, if at all) is to reconnect with my potential for healing...to be of use, the path of selfless service..
i believe in recall, so things i have learned can return, given the circumstances are receptive to what i may have to offer in some future time..
avid
19th December 2022, 16:29
My dearest wish is to return to source, not to reincarnate ever again, to learn from the source, and help from afar.
Nothing could be worse for me than to reincarnate in this horrendous world, only to be murdered again by evil entities.
Heart to heart
19th December 2022, 19:31
Always an interesting topic and I guess I am nearer than most to finding out.
My life has been spent searching for answers to questions most people never ask and when I was ready the master always appeared.
Not for me a search among gurus or attending expensive seminars and workshops.
Those amazing psychic friends turned up at just the right time when new knowledge that resonated with my soul’s purpose was to be given to me.
They came from other lives and other times, even other planetary systems, to give information that needed sharing to change the consciousness of humanity that we might no longer be children of Earth but Citizens of the Universe
It is time to put aside our childish toys of aggression, hate and destruction and move into the consciousness of Love.
This is the way we escape the wretched wheel of Karma to become Universal Beings where we can become true co-creators on our Divine trajectory towards the Godhead.
I look forward to the exciting adventures ahead of me when I will no longer be burdened with a heavy physical form but take on the Etheric body to dwell in realms I have yet to imagine.
Years ago I remember being given the information that the Aquarian Age would be more important for the Etheric body rather than the physical.
So I leave you with these thoughts as we head towards Christmas when so many seem to choose to go “home”
Be happy in the knowledge that there is NO DEATH, just another adventure 🌈 over the Rainbow Bridge!
JackMcThorn
19th December 2022, 19:55
...and I'm already starting to plan out my next lifetime, whenever it may have an opportunity to begin. (Yes, I am, not a joke.) That alone might make a fascinating new thread, and I've never heard or read anyone, anywhere, talking about this.
This is a really heavy set of thoughts on my mind as I am still figuring this one [life] out at present. So many things have seemed to gone wrong; but I have no regrets. I wouldn't change anything, and this really gives me some peace of mind.
Thinking of 'planning' the next one disturbs my peacefulness; so I think I am not ready to delve into that just yet.
Craig
19th December 2022, 20:11
My dearest wish is to return to source, not to reincarnate ever again, to learn from the source, and help from afar.
Nothing could be worse for me than to reincarnate in this horrendous world, only to be murdered again by evil entities.
Amen indeed
Open Minded Dude
19th December 2022, 20:35
I don't know what it will be.
Robert Monroe (who is like Buhlman as mentioned by the OP a famous out-of-body explorer) said that the Higher Self (which he called either I-There or Total Self) has a (literal quote) 'different overview'.
And there's the rub. :bigsmile:
It seems to me that the 'Total' self is still 'something' different then the 'you' we all are now as incarnated 'avatars' of the Higher Self. There is an overall perspective of many lives lived and lessons to be learnt in the great picture. It's a completely different framework and mode of existence.
So I don't know what will be 'in store' or 'planned' for 'me'. I think no one does really.
We / I could express wishes (e.g. one would be for me to never incarnate on this sh'tty planet again) but to what avail if I cannot directly influence it? I might influence it indirectly by learning all my lessons and leading a good life and then there will be no 'need' to come back. Btw, I do not believe in 'Karma' as an obligation, just as a kind of 'workload' (another Monroe term) the Higher Self / Oversoul might have or decide on and maybe after a 'good life' enough of the 'work' will be done. But who knows.
Michi
19th December 2022, 21:25
I don't know what it will be.
Robert Monroe (who is like Buhlman as mentioned by the OP a famous out-of-body explorer) said that the Higher Self (which he called either I-There or Total Self) has a (literal quote) 'different overview'.
And there's the rub. :bigsmile:
It seems to me that the 'Total' self is still 'something' different then the 'you' we all are now as incarnated 'avatars' of the Higher Self. There is an overall perspective of many lives lived and lessons to be learnt in the great picture. It's a completely different framework and mode of existence.
So I don't know what will be 'in store' or 'planned' for 'me'. I think no one does really.
We / I could express wishes (e.g. one would be for me to never incarnate on this sh'tty planet again) but to what avail if I cannot directly influence it? I might influence it indirectly by learning all my lessons and leading a good life and then there will be no 'need' to come back. Btw, I do not believe in 'Karma' as an obligation, just as a kind of 'workload' (another Monroe term) the Higher Self / Oversoul might have or decide on and maybe after a 'good life' enough of the 'work' will be done. But who knows.
Yes, I forgot Robert Monroe in my list.
The "higher self" is an interesting concept and at first it looks "logical" but if you discern it - doesn't it look like a "other source" - outside yourself - similar like god?
In the book "SuperScio" Ken Ogger (The Pilot) wrote about a so-called "splitter implant" that divides you into a "Higher Self" and: "The higher self viewpoints are quite busy but not self aware."
Thus, I take this "Higher Self" with a grain of salt.
By the way, I recently came across another work on the subject, being quite recent from Howdie Mickoski "Exit the cave - Ending the reincarnation trap"
Here is a recent interview with him:
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(https://www.egyptian-wisdom-revealed.com/exit-the-cave/)
Vicus
20th December 2022, 00:38
An idiom say that when you are on your right path, synchronicity happens...
Something like 2 years I'm ruminating how to exit the Matrix and don't fall again in the reincarnation trap.
Early in life firsts sparks came from Castaneda, then more powerful therefore intriguing until today from Gurdjief, (food for the Moon)
and his fat book where as grandparent Entertains his grandson with the "history" of mankind while travelling space...in his time! go figure that!
Gurdjief self tell us he must pack information as "science-fiction" the only way to make some digest of it...
That was the first time I read that we are "food" for some entities...the horror never gone...
10 years ago began to crawl info about not follow "false light" typical scenarios from NDE, OBE, etc.
A podcast I follow all this years because a rich number of interesting people from different school of Thoughts:
https://www.youtube.com/c/aeonbytegnosticradio I found and buy the book from Freddy Silva
https://grahamhancock.com/author/freddysilva/
The Lost Art of Resurrection: Initiation, secret chambers and the quest for the Otherworld. (English Edition)
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B00MQZCOAQ/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i4
Then 1 month ago came this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pob2YeeLHEU
Where the talk is about that the Zodiac from Babylonians (sidereal astrology) is the Matrix code...
And 2 weeks ago that video with Howdie Mickoski "Exit the Cave"...
After that video I began to "what if beginning a Thread until the motto "how to exit the Matrix"...
I wanted to buy his book and then...came the futbol world Cup...well I still live plug in...
Then I saw this Thread ...ok, to late for me... but today I see that video from Mickoski posted and Bang! synchronicity hit me again!
My first intention was to make like a post series... now is all here compress. :sherlock:
Advice: watching the guest videos with different hosts, became a bigger perspective...
Merkaba360
20th December 2022, 04:08
If we are reincarnating back on earth soon after our death date, I think we can get an idea of a plan for our next life based on desires. But hard to know the larger plan of the higher self. What is left on the list of needs to get accomplished in the "3rd" dimension? Probably will want to check off a few of those things next life, especially the ones that are most fitting to that era. Different possibilities in the year 1900 vs 2000 vs 2100 etc.
A very powerful seer told me that he was sure I had a past life in the asian country I currently live. I basically knew that with all the occurrences that pulled me to travel and then live here this life. Me and others got readings from him many times. He was 95% accurate on the present and past, 5% was unclear, and was never clearly wrong. PRobably about 70% accurate on the future, more so on the near future. A lot of data to verify his skill. He could see what you were doing over the phone for example.
Anyway, He told me that I should buy some land shaped like a money bag with mango trees lined down one side, next to a busy road. He said, or maybe you did just recently buy it. As I can't really own land here outright (he knew that), he still advised me to buy with my gf (which I did a few weeks before the reading).
This was the second reading i did with him, but that vision of the land made it clear to him I lived here in a past life, because he said that it was MY land in the past life. And buying it (sort of) would bring me good luck, for some reason. Really wish I knew why such a thing would be auspicious, strange. He also was aware of my difficult childhood in USA and said that I needed to go thru that for some sort of karma which makes total sense to me.
In other words, before this life, I think I had made the following plan. I wanted to live in Asia, but with the benefits of being American, giving me certain freedoms and not being bound to a tight family structure. So, I worked thru some childhood karma in a small family which broke apart and gave me the desire to flee, leading me out East. Gave me the freedom to be a seeker without the family obligations of asian families.
Given the region of my past life, I likely was a rural farmer or tradesmen (likely poor) with medium to dark skin (not desirable here). Being American living in Asia gave me benefits of a better education, more opportunity, exotic looking, tall (have maybe half viking DNA), fair skin, native english speaker, etc.
In other words, decades ago, there werent a lot of asian bodies in this country with as many advantages as stated above. A good plan to experience some karma early and then enjoy middle age more with advantages in the country I wanted to live in.
Merkaba360
20th December 2022, 04:40
My dearest wish is to return to source, not to reincarnate ever again, to learn from the source, and help from afar.
Nothing could be worse for me than to reincarnate in this horrendous world, only to be murdered again by evil entities.
Not sure we have a choice in the long run. In the short term, perhaps we can go to source to heal or whatever. Similar to how we can have temporary trips to high places with DMT or Astral or during sleep. Its seems we have to do all the work to become a complete being. As Don Juan put it, we need to light up every part within our coccoon (torus/merkaba/apple/egg) to achieve wholeness/completeness. Like accomplish it thru struggles as an individuated self, rather than the easy temporary ways.
As Ive mentioned before, I think MAttias DeStefano is the real deal. He says, we cant graduate the 3rd dimension (not a place but a perspective with a specific degree of freedom) and reach the 4th dimension until we completely love the 3rd dimension. That is a kind of enlightenment by experiencing the physical as pure light/love energy - seeing thru the physical illusion I guess we could say.
He also mentioned that we need to get to the 9th dimension (totality) to get to the 1st dimension (unity/singularity). To me that is because they are different views of the same thing. Infinity = Everything = nothing (0), and zero is wholeness/unity (1).
I can't remember exactly what he said, but he said there is something that can only be done from the 3rd dimension. I think he may have said, the 9th dimension can only be accessed from the 3rd. Since, 3 is the number of creation this could make sense to me. 3rd, 6th and 9th dimensions are very related. We need 3 dimensions to have a complete spatial experience. I guess 6 dimensions (where he says the architect is, basically the sun is often related to 6D) is needed to have a complete universe of experience. Then 9D would be a complete totality of everything interdimensionally.
In other words, if we are thinking in multiples of 3, we need to go thru the bottom (3rd) to get to the top (9th). I hope that kind of makes sense, cuz im trying to put an intuition into words. It could be very wrong, but I could also see it being on the right track as one way of looking at it.
Lastly, Mattias said the 1st dimension is boring, hence the division into the ALL. So, its seems like its a never ending cycle, not reaching the source and never reincarnating again. But then again, once you reach source, you are source, and part of source is always at source anyways if you see what i mean. Thus, starting a new looooooooooooooooooong cycle after reaching source, wouldn't be that same you anyway right? hmmm A true fresh start lol
In other words, everytime a new drop separates from the ocean/sea, it is new and unique. If we think of souls as these droplets, they can merge or split, which solves the problem others asked about having enough "souls" for the expanding population of earth, regardless of an influx of willing souls coming from far away. We could use fire as an analogy too, the source flame remains unchanged each time it lights up a new flame. Those flame can be divided or combined as well. Mind boggling lol
DNA
20th December 2022, 07:36
I believe in accepting the light tunnel offered at death.
But, that is because I'm not capable of performing the acrobatics of consciousness necessary to do otherwise.
One speaks of leaving reincarnation as if it is only a discussion one needs to have with one self.
Let me explain why the monks lived in caves by them selves for years on end.
One has to master ones passions.
One has to master ones impulses.
You have to master the bodies urges and demands.
You have to be able to endure abuse and wish your abuser nothing but love and happiness.
In a word you have to master detachment.
You must repower your body though the meditation of quiet mind. Turning off your ceaseless mental chatter.
You must recapitulate your life's existence.
You must revisit, relive your life and take back the energy stolen from you while giving back the energy you took.
A man detached from society, his past and the insults, the attacks of his fellow man.
This man may bypass the prescribed and leave the reincarnation process
But the work,,,
F@ck that, pass me another beer.
Bill Ryan
20th December 2022, 11:09
Not sure we have a choice in the long run. I'm personally sure that we do, but it's often wrested out of our spiritual hands by deep unconscious forces that lie within us, the same kinds of factors that also determine the broad course of our human lives.
Just as an example (but of course, one I can't prove, though I'm personally certain all this was real), as I've shared in a few threads here over the years I was a Tibetan Lama for many lifetimes until 1850, when I reincarnated in the West (Leicestershire, England).
That was a totally conscious decision, as in my meditation I'd perceived that there was a society way to the west, on the other side of the world, that was very unbalanced and spiritually extremely unhealthy, and which needed help. So my incarnation in England was very focused and deliberate.
However, that lifetime was a completely catastrophic disaster. I had the right idea :) — but was entirely unequipped to handle life in an alien culture, more alien than I'd ever imagined it would or could be. (That does quite often happen with cross-cultural incarnations, as best I know.)
This (as 'Bill Ryan)' is my fourth incarnation since then, and the first that's been in any way approaching 'normal'. While I've had quite an extreme kind of life by most standards, the earlier three were far more so. :) It might be said that only this lifetime has my intention as a 19th century Tibetan come anywhere close to being realized.
The summary (as best I know and understand) is that we do indeed have personal choice, but there are still many other unconscious factors that can get everything tangled up and make our conscious choices difficult to manifest.
Mark (Star Mariner)
20th December 2022, 13:00
I have a few clues and inklings of my own former lives. Most, I think, were long, long ago. One recent life was ecclesiastical, late middle-ages. I did not see eye-to-eye with church canon, or the way they did things. I don't know the details (and probably for the better), but that didn't end well for me. Another life was in ancient Greece. I had more than one existence in that time-frame, and all I can say from my heart is that it was a tremendously exciting time and place to be. Dangerous too, of course. War lingered never far from the horizon.
But the expansion of human consciousness was taking place on a grand scale in Greece during this era, from particularly the 4th to 1st centuries B.C. It was the first human renaissance if you will - one of the mind. I believe we went through a renaissance of the soul in the 19th century when the veil drew aside for the first time in a long time. Spirt stepped out of the shadows; phenomena occurred, and clairvoyance was switched on in many. Healers, teaches, and gurus revealed themselves, and Spiritualism took off in the West. Today I think we're living in another kind of renaissance: one of the heart. That may mean different things to different people. I'm not sure what it means myself, but I think it's to do with everything coming full circle, when we learn the true meaning of love, and what it really means to be human.
Before Greece there were Egyptian adventures, Old Kingdom or even pre-Old Kingdom, that really were like an episode of Ancient Aliens (these involve real and detailed memories).
But these are only a tiny few of the lives I know of. All of us live hundreds if not thousands of lives/existences, on hundreds if not thousands of different planes, planets, and realities. I suspect that's quite typical of 'adventurous souls' - which you all are who are reading these words - you certainly wouldn't be incarnate on this earth otherwise. We all chose to be here. Some need to be here, but for what purpose it's hard to guess. It certainly won't be the same for everyone. Some could be here to 'mend' their personal life tapestries by balancing karma, others to weave new threads for future pathways yet to be realised. That needs to be considered. Did you know that for multiple generations prior to the incarnation of Jesus many lightworkers incarnated for the sole purpose of raising the vibration of the planet so it was compatible with his energy? That Christ event involved centuries of work and planning.
Who knows. Our lives now may merely be stones, laying the foundations for lives yet to come.
We have little to no clue of how huge and wide our multi-dimensional reality is, or the true purpose behind the life circumstances we find ourselves in. It transcends time, and far transcends the consciousness we now possess. It is tiny in human form. Most have little clue, for example, their close familial relationships now were not forged in this life but many lives ago, maybe eons ago, and actions and deeds eons ago are still affecting those relationships today.
Existence is multi-dimensional and multi-time - All-time. We can barely scratch the surface of what these terms actually mean in our current form. We simply cannot begin to imagine the true 'greater reality'.
Planning our future lives now with our limited awareness would be a bit like a four-year old child, with a four-year old child's consciousness, planning what he is going to when he leaves home or finishes college. He hasn't got a clue. Before even approaching such considerations he has to come into so much more conscious awareness. We really have to die first and so say 'come into our own', meaning, we have to merge with our greater/higher self, or rather allow the greater self to merge with us. We are essentially toddlers without it.
I say, live this life first. Forget your future ones. That is not in our hands. And it's not only another time, and another reality, but it will be lived by an entirely different facet of your consciousness - i.e. another individual - than the one you are now.
Brigantia
20th December 2022, 13:37
I was a Tibetan Lama for many lifetimes until 1850, when I reincarnated in the West (Leicestershire, England).
This made me smile Bill - my dad's ancestors were from Leics, maybe we're related!:biggrin:
About 30 years ago I regressed to my past life spontaneously when under hypnosis. Wow, what a shock that was... but it helped me to make sense of who I was. My last life was as a man who wasn't a nice person at all, and also the person that he hurt the most in that lifetime became the person who has hurt me the most in this lifetime. So, I guess we're quits. (One memory that came to me from that life was watching the Blitz over London from a few miles away; the amazing thing was that it was all in colour!)
It then led me over the years to ponder who I was and the impact I had on others. A recent yoga class had a focus on speaking our truth - I told the teacher that I've never had a problem with speaking my truth, but I've had a problem with diplomacy! That's something that I've worked on for a long time and have tried to be a lot kinder to others.
The idea of escaping another life here is tempting, but balanced against that is the thought of seeing loved ones again on the other side. I had 20 years between this life and the last, so hopefully by the time I come back here again we'll have notched up to a better Yuga. So yep, I'll go for another round here, and hope that in the next lifetime I won't waste the opportunities like I have done in this life.
Frankie Pancakes
20th December 2022, 14:27
https://www.dolorescannon.com/life-death-side/
Due to karma, not only is there life after death; there are many lives after many deaths.
Whatever guidance a soul needs after transitioning the death experience will be provided. Life after death is guaranteed because the soul is indestructible. For humans, accepting death should be as easy as embracing life, because one cannot exist without the other. The spirit is not just a thing that resides in a body; it is eternal energy, created by Source.
Wind
20th December 2022, 16:08
The little "me" knows almost nothing, it is the viewpoint of your personality and ego in this earthly role right now. So it is bound to have a very limited perspective from the standpoint of this one single life with it's experiences. One lifetime is just a tiny pebble in the cosmic continuum, although as time is relative it certainly can feel as if one lifetime lasts for a very long time. Yet there is no time in eternity, only here people experience time.
However, the soul and our higher self truly knows and sees things as they are. The soul will see in the afterlife what has been before, what is and what could be (in possible future). So I can only say that only in our real home which is the afterlife I could know what I am about to do in my future lives because then I will be truly seeing with the vision of my soul. At the moment I simply have no idea, but I do certainly hope that I have earned a bit more peace in "future" times. Often times we all have a lot of inner work to do. Where you fall short as a human being, there lies your potential for growth. There is no judgement, the only judgement is only what you place on yourself! Karma isn't judgement either, it's just the law of cause and effect. You get back what you give, it's really no more complicated than that. The golden rule is the main tenet of most religions. Karmic deliverance can often seem to be quite slow, but not always.
If I were to answer from the perspective of my current lifetime right now, then I would say that I'd certainly not like to come back here again considering the fact what I've experienced and how things are currently on Earth. If that were to change drastically for the better then I might reconsider, but then again that is something I wouldn't know yet. I could say that knowing who and what I was before, I must have been either an idiot or quite brave to come again, but I do admit being a fool in many ways. Yet often it tends to be the case that there is either "unfinished" business here with other familiar souls or just the desire to help others. Or even just the desire for the experience of being alive, although often the desire for experience is vastly more interesting for younger souls. There's nothing wrong with that because no one is above or below anyone else anyways, there are just differences in terms of the state of consciousness.
Life is not only about experience even though it plays a very great part in the evolution of souls, but it's about relation. How you relate to others? They have everything to teach you about the world and about yourself. Then you will in your own way reflect things back at them too. When it comes to planet Earth, this is a very mixed planet in many ways. You can experience many things here, heavens and hells.
If you don't want to come back then choose another "holiday" resort location instead and have a good time until you get enough of it too.
Chances are that many of us will choose to come back though...
rgray222
20th December 2022, 20:24
Not sure we have a choice in the long run. I'm personally sure that we do, but it's often wrested out of our spiritual hands by deep unconscious forces that lie within us, the same kinds of factors that also determine the broad course of our human lives.
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There has always been a question of whether a person has free will or not. I truly believe the answer is that we have free will to choose the next incarnation, free will is owned by the soul, not the human. So when we arrive to take on that new life our free will is limited to turning left or right, the volume on the radio, and the channel on the TV but the broad strokes of our current human life have been firmly put in place before we ever arrived. Free will was exercised before human birth.
Michi
21st December 2022, 17:32
The best approach to prepare for a future incarnation (or journey without meat body) is to resolve inabilities and obsessions and dependencies.
I am in a somewhat lucky position to have a friend who is a very skilled practitioner in various processes similar to the ones delivered at Rons Org (https://ronsorg.ch/). Roundabout twice a year I travel to him to advance myself in the above areas.
I am sure there are also different approaches in tackling the above and believe that anybody can find his own way to accomplish that. It boils down to having some goals, plans and intention and faith in one self to maybee not reach everything by tomorrow but keep on walking towards it.
However - it would be very cool if there would be a travel guide for ex-carnated beings with practical how-to tips to not only travel far galaxies but how to advance as beings. :dog:
If anyone has such a guide - bring it on! :Party:
In closing of this post - visit the interactive star map, at http://www.galactic-server.net/linkmap.html (use at your own risk) :amen:
Michi
6th July 2025, 14:12
:bump::bump::bump:
Harmony
6th July 2025, 14:37
Sometimes I would like to wake up in a "future" where the world has learned all it's lessons that lead us to love our world and all it's varied beings and elements, know how everything is connected and communicating when we listen with our open heart. Embodiment of our higher nature is seen and felt in our evolution where we grow and know with inner intuition how to create within and with everything because we can :heart:
Bill Ryan
6th July 2025, 14:47
Thanks for bumping this fascinating thread! :highfive:
I'm increasingly leaning to planning my next incarnation to be in Russia. (I was 'told' a few years ago that whatever happens in the world in the next few years, 'Central Asia will be safe'. I never mentioned this specifically in my More predictions (maybe) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-) thread, as it seemed a little too general. But I noted those exact words down for myself in my journal and have never forgotten them.)
Based on everything which I believe I know and understand, the 'west' is dying an inevitable slow death culturally and economically, a decline which might also be accelerated by war and/or natural events. In contrast, readers might remember that Edgar Cayce wrote (https://content.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/out-of-russia-will-come-hope/) that "out of Russia will come the hope of the world." I find myself taking that 100% seriously, and I do feel it's very likely to be accurate.
grapevine
6th July 2025, 15:07
Do you get to choose the timeline as well, or are we always going forward?
Bill Ryan
6th July 2025, 15:22
Do you get to choose the timeline as well, or are we always going forward?What a great question. I think (but don't feel I know 100% for sure!) that we almost always stay on the same timeline, and are always 'moving forward' on it.
~~~
Maybe off-topic on this thread, years ago I did have an extremely psychic friend who once said that while successive incarnations are rather like consecutive scenes in the final cut of a movie, "the shooting order can be different". :)
Whatever that might have meant, it seems to imply a timeline somehow embedded within another higher-level timeline, and is just a little challenging at least for this human to comprehend!
:focus:
RunningDeer
6th July 2025, 16:44
Thoughts of my next incarnation have quieted. There’s enough to focus on in the present. Maybe by the end of my time, I’ll have gathered the wisdom to choose the next road in the journey.
For now, I spend some of my time discovering the ancient part of me.
:heart:
onawah
6th July 2025, 22:08
Gigi Young is talking about all that in her latest update posted here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113646-Gigi-Young-Talks&p=1675734&viewfull=1#post1675734
I think one reason that Russia may become the hope of the world is that once the poles have reversed and the geomagnetic excursion of continents takes place, Russia's new climate will be much warmer and there will be lots of farmland there which will be yielding crops.
Ben Davidson goes into how that will all pan out in his documentaries on the playlists here:
https://www.youtube.com/@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s
Thanks for bumping this fascinating thread! :highfive:
I'm increasingly leaning to planning my next incarnation to be in Russia. (I was 'told' a few years ago that whatever happens in the world in the next few years, 'Central Asia will be safe'. I never mentioned this specifically in my More predictions (maybe) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-) thread, as it seemed a little too general. But I noted those exact words down for myself in my journal and have never forgotten them.)
Based on everything which I believe I know and understand, the 'west' is dying an inevitable slow death culturally and economically, a decline which might also be accelerated by war and/or natural events. In contrast, readers might remember that Edgar Cayce wrote (https://content.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/out-of-russia-will-come-hope/) that "out of Russia will come the hope of the world." I find myself taking that 100% seriously, and I do feel it's very likely to be accurate.
...And speaking of Ben and incarnations, the following isn't about my own incarnations, but about one that I think was Davidson's in the past, and certain parallels of the two personalities which I think can be logically drawn.
...Not to mention the marked resemblance. It's not quite as obvious from the photos, but I have seen that same pensive, criticial expression on his face during his youtube videos, and the resemblance fairly leapt out at me.
I cannot comment on the data but I think it's kind of interesting that Newton in this photo:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.fineartamerica.com%2Fimages-medium-large%2F1689-sir-isaac-newton-portrait-young-paul-d-stewart.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=dd5fadb4aed7f575b1c160c3c2323eb46eff2734e1c0fab4e0c626ac489e89ec
...bears a strong resemblance to Ben Davidson of SpaceWeatherNews, who is also brilliant (a speed reader with a very retentive memory and a rare case of Hyperthymesia, is very innovative, astute in the fields of math, astrophysics, meteorolgy, etc....though he is only 40 years old. I've seen that very same critical expression on his face in many of his youtube videos as we see on Newton's face in the portrait.
More about Ben's background here: https://suspicious0bservers.org/about-faq/)
Two photos of Ben: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.c1gZ1Ofz2Xw_lFislF_LwQHaEK%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=528f804848587d22d6d874f6ab230c708714947977314df65f1295b48a1acd3f&ipo=images
https://photos.brighteon.com/file/brighteon-thumbnails/poster/9a11c7ac-150f-4ef1-a5c2-2cd3afedcc4e
Recently in Ben's Q&A sessions on youtube, and especially after a very recent and traumatic divorce from an unfaithful wife, he has been demonstrating some unusually aberrant behavior.
And this is a description from: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Isaac-Newton
...of Newton's volatile nature, probably due in part to traumatic events from his childhood:
Deprived of a father before birth, he soon lost his mother as well, for within two years she married a second time; her husband, the well-to-do minister Barnabas Smith, left young Isaac with his grandmother and moved to a neighbouring village to raise a son and two daughters. For nine years, until the death of Barnabas Smith in 1653, Isaac was effectively separated from his mother, and his pronounced psychotic tendencies have been ascribed to this traumatic event. That he hated his stepfather we may be sure. When he examined the state of his soul in 1662 and compiled a catalog of sins in shorthand, he remembered “Threatening my father and mother Smith to burne them and the house over them.” The acute sense of insecurity that rendered him obsessively anxious when his work was published and irrationally violent when he defended it accompanied Newton throughout his life and can plausibly be traced to his early years.
Also:
When Newton received the bachelor’s degree in April 1665, the most remarkable undergraduate career in the history of university education had passed unrecognized. On his own, without formal guidance, he had sought out the new philosophy and the new mathematics and made them his own, but he had confined the progress of his studies to his notebooks.
Both extremely dedicated,"bookish" scholars, both original and innovative, though controversial in their work.
More evidence of Newton's very tempermental nature related to controversy:
Newton was also engaged in another exchange on his theory of colours with a circle of English Jesuits in Liège, perhaps the most revealing exchange of all. Although their objections were shallow, their contention that his experiments were mistaken lashed him into a fury. The correspondence dragged on until 1678, when a final shriek of rage from Newton, apparently accompanied by a complete nervous breakdown, was followed by silence. The death of his mother the following year completed his isolation. For six years he withdrew from intellectual commerce except when others initiated a correspondence, which he always broke off as quickly as possible.
And
When the Royal Society received the completed manuscript of Book I in 1686, Hooke raised the cry of plagiarism, a charge that cannot be sustained in any meaningful sense. On the other hand, Newton’s response to it reveals much about him. Hooke would have been satisfied with a generous acknowledgment; it would have been a graceful gesture to a sick man already well into his decline, and it would have cost Newton nothing. Newton, instead, went through his manuscript and eliminated nearly every reference to Hooke. Such was his fury that he refused either to publish his Opticks or to accept the presidency of the Royal Society until Hooke was dead.
More at https://www.britannica.com/biography/Isaac-Newton/The-Principia ... about Newton's very colorful life, how he became quite a wealthy man, was very religious and found fulfillment in associating with other innovative scientists.
Criticisms have been registered here on the forum about Davidson's temper tantrums, his apparent acquisitiveness and his religion, but members who have been monitoring his work closely, including Bill Ryan, believe his scientific work has a lot of merit.
More about his very rare case of Hyperthymesia here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1674906&viewfull=1#post1674906
I could certainly be wrong (and this is not exactly on topic so please pardon the diversion) but I am fairly intuitive and have often matched up past lives with current lives of various people of my acquaintance.
Though I don't know Davidson personally, my strong hunch is that this is another reincarnation match.
His accomplishments so far have been remarkable considering how controversial his work is and how a lot of it has been done single handedly, but he has reached a certain landmark now with Observer Ranch and it will be interesting to see how the work proceeds.
He has a second book coming out now and a new documentary due this Fall.
Hopefully he will be able to heal more easily than Newton did, and his Hyperthymesia prove to be more of a gift than a deterrant, as I think he has an important role to play. But much may depend on whether he can maintain emotional balance.
Newton lived to the age of 84, and Ben has the kind of ears which signal longevity in the ancient (and very accurate) art of Chinese Medicine, so he may well survive beyond the pole shift he is helping many Preppers to be ready for.
For "intellectual inspiration" Linconshire also appears to be tops, as it was there that Sir Isaac Newton, "studying in isolation", invented calculus, the binomial theorem, the law of universal gravitation and the discovery of the composite nature of white light - all at the tender age of twenty three and immediately after leaving Trinity College, Cambridge, where his academic career was said to be "undistinguished".
Mark (Star Mariner)
7th July 2025, 15:08
Gigi Young is talking about all that in her latest update posted here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113646-Gigi-Young-Talks&p=1675734&viewfull=1#post1675734
I think one reason that Russia may become the hope of the world is that once the poles have reversed and the geomagnetic excursion of continents takes place, Russia's new climate will be much warmer and there will be lots of farmland there which will be yielding crops.
Yes, yes! That's exactly what I thought when I first read about the 'hope' of Russia in Cayce's predictions. It's not to do with geopolitics, but location. In the future, that vast landmass is going to be equatorial; it'll be the bread-basket of the world, and therefore, perhaps, the seat of a new global civilisation moving forward.
Open Minded Dude
7th July 2025, 15:27
I hope I am not bound by Karma. It is said that ':stars:-seeds' are not bound by it or it does apply somewhat differently (at least this is what I read in Dolores Cannon's books several times at different places).
That means that I won't feel 'obliged' or 'forced' to come back with more incarnations. I hope I won't. Although as I posted before we don't know what the Higher Self with that 'different overview' really wants or decides to do next. Maybe it thinks this ****hole called Earth is actually a cool ride with lots to learn and experiences to make - and wants to go for another round.
:facepalm::worried:
Albeit I still hope I will go to another world or dimenstional energy system next. There's countless opportunities in the universe and if you (or as your Higher God Self) are a traveler anyway it might well be possible to choose where you go and 'what' or 'who' you become next ...
:cantina:
I could be wrong though.
;)
Bill Ryan
7th July 2025, 20:34
Gigi Young is talking about all that in her latest update posted here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113646-Gigi-Young-Talks&p=1675734&viewfull=1#post1675734
I think one reason that Russia may become the hope of the world is that once the poles have reversed and the geomagnetic excursion of continents takes place, Russia's new climate will be much warmer and there will be lots of farmland there which will be yielding crops.
Yes, yes! That's exactly what I thought when I first read about the 'hope' of Russia in Cayce's predictions. It's not to do with geopolitics, but location. In the future, that vast landmass is going to be equatorial; it'll be the bread-basket of the world, and therefore, perhaps, the seat of a new global civilisation moving forward. Yes. :stars: Of interest, when I posted this (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120195-Your-next-incarnation&p=1675699&viewfull=1#post1675699) yesterday...
I was 'told' a few years ago that whatever happens in the world in the next few years, 'Central Asia will be safe'. I never mentioned this specifically in my More predictions (maybe) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-) thread, as it seemed a little too general. But I noted those exact words down for myself in my journal and have never forgotten them.... I still have no information about why 'Central Asia will be safe'. I just 'got' the info as that one very simple sentence, with no explanation attached. :)
Casey Claar
7th July 2025, 22:47
I hope I am not bound by Karma. It is said that ':stars:-seeds' are not bound by it or it does apply somewhat differently (at least this is what I read in Dolores Cannon's books several times at different places).
That means that I won't feel 'obliged' or 'forced' to come back with more incarnations. I hope I won't. Although as I posted before we don't know what the Higher Self with that 'different overview' really wants or decides to do next. Maybe it thinks this ****hole called Earth is actually a cool ride with lots to learn and experiences to make - and wants to go for another round.
:facepalm::worried:
Albeit I still hope I will go to another world or dimenstional energy system next. There's countless opportunities in the universe and if you (or as your Higher God Self) are a traveler anyway it might well be possible to choose where you go and 'what' or 'who' you become next ...
:cantina:
I could be wrong though.
;)
I getcha.
I do feel, however, that ALL are bound by Universal Law at all times ( no special exceptions or exemptions ). We know this in coming -and it also makes sense as we are all fractals of THE ONE who is being everyone-and-everything. Karma is often not quite what people tend to think. Its fundamental implication is that we, ourselves, are the very first recipient of all (thoughts/ideas, energies, etc) we allow entrance and passage through our discrete being. -and, further, are responsible for what we do with these thoughts/ideas, energies, etc.. Karma, in the way that I see it is more a record, or recording than anything else; the frequencies the recording contains are either more harmonious than dissonant or vice versa. This informs the Soul, or Central-self where further potential growth resides and provides the building block(s) of further potential incarnation. I think centrally we are always aimed at opportunities for growth and when/where we can do the most good. It is the current incarnation that creates the next, or pending sojourn. It is a fun practice to be curious at what potentials we might be creating. In my case, I trust it does include a graduation into galactic-level consciousness; a life that is not bound to any particular planet, with a playground that is decidedly a bit larger.
onawah
29th October 2025, 21:49
I just discovered another interesting fact on an old thread about Sir Isaac Newton and a discovery he made:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79911-You-are-a-Rainbow-Seven-Levels-of-Intelligence&p=947695&viewfull=1#post947695
"Reality exists beyond our mental frameworks but you cannot get a religious person to see that. In 1666, English scientist Sir Isaac Newton discovered that when pure white light passes through a prism, it separates into all of the visible colors. We ourselves are prisms for the cosmic light that passes through each of us. The problem or issue of differences between one person and another are the almost infinite variations in absorbing ability and unconscious choice. Some absorb intense amounts of violet and are great imaginers but most people are red absorbers and this shapes their personalities into the physical level of consciousness.
Most psychologists view color therapy with skepticism and point out that the supposed effects of color are often grossly exaggerated. This is to say that most psychologists are ignorant of the basic function of light and color in terms of their shaping power over human consciousness. Bottom line, one cannot think a thought without light nor feel anything or see anything."
More about Newton in the post at: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120195-Your-next-incarnation&p=1675765&viewfull=1#post1675765
TrumanCash
30th October 2025, 16:15
I just discovered another interesting fact about Sir Isaac Newton and a discovery he made on an old thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79911-You-are-a-Rainbow-Seven-Levels-of-Intelligence&p=947695&viewfull=1#post947695
"Reality exists beyond our mental frameworks but you cannot get a religious person to see that. In 1666, English scientist Sir Isaac Newton discovered that when pure white light passes through a prism, it separates into all of the visible colors. We ourselves are prisms for the cosmic light that passes through each of us. The problem or issue of differences between one person and another are the almost infinite variations in absorbing ability and unconscious choice. Some absorb intense amounts of violet and are great imaginers but most people are red absorbers and this shapes their personalities into the physical level of consciousness.
Most psychologists view color therapy with skepticism and point out that the supposed effects of color are often grossly exaggerated. This is to say that most psychologists are ignorant of the basic function of light and color in terms of their shaping power over human consciousness. Bottom line, one cannot think a thought without light nor feel anything or see anything."
More about Newton in the post above at: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120195-Your-next-incarnation&p=1675765&viewfull=1#post1675765
Onawah, your post reminded me of my initial experience with color meditation a half century ago. A friend told me about how to imagine/create a pyramid with seven levels. Each level was filled with the frequency of each color of the prism spectrum. You then enter the first level/room from the bottom of the pyramid wearing a white robe. You then spend time in each room feeling and seeing each color/frequency. You can look around and see that you, the room and your robe are bathed only in the color of each level. The first and largest room is red and the apex of the pyramid ends up being violet. When exiting the pyramid out of the apex you become white light.
I did this creative meditation with light each day. I then began to dream in color, which was a great surprise to me. I then found I was conscious in the dream and I could create the outcome that I desired (rather than being just a spectator in the dream)--In other words, lucid dreaming. This was all very astonishing to me as I had never heard of lucid dreaming and no one had told me that this would be a phenomenon as a result of this color meditation.
So given this phenomenon--What if one imagines/creates the scenario/meditation that one chooses the path of their transition at the end of one's current incarnation?
For example, what if one wishes to be born on a peaceful, spiritual planet where there is no war?
There are spiritually-based planets out there where positive spiritual abilities are taught early in life resulting in a peaceful planet. Perhaps one could pre-program one's future by incarnating on such a planet.
I mention this because in working with an abductee, "Jack Wylie" (pseudonym), he recovered the memory of a night when he was sleeping and beings from a previous spiritual planet that he had lived on reeled off information from his experiences on Earth. The way he described it was as if they were monitoring him and downloading information from him to learn about his experiences on Earth and his abductions by other ETs. "Jack" then described what it was like living on that planet previous to his Earth incarnations.
Although I have included "Jack's" abduction experiences in both THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET & THE EYE OF RA, I don't recall ever including this memory recovery session in either book thirty years ago. My research exposed the negative, manipulative ETs so it entered into dark territory. "Jack's" experience was so refreshing because it revealed the positive side of life that exists in this universe.
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onawah
30th October 2025, 21:58
Learning about the colors and the corresponding levels of consciousness was a huge revelation for me as well and gave me a big boost in clarity.
I was fortunate enough to have a direct connection with the late Dr. Christopher Hills, author of "Nuclear Evolution", and took classes at his intentional community, University of the Trees.
He thought that the majority of humans were still primarily on the second level, orange, described as "herd consciousness". I've always wondered why orange in Buddhist countries is thought of as the color of renunciation.
Aura photography is a wonderful invention! What a great tool for psychologists if only they were aware!
I did this creative meditation with light each day. I then began to dream in color, which was a great surprise to me. I then found I was conscious in the dream and I could create the outcome that I desired (rather than being just a spectator in the dream)--in other words, lucid dreaming. This was all very astonishing to me as I had never heard of lucid dreaming and no one had told me that this would be a phenomenon as a result of this color meditation.
onawah
30th October 2025, 22:07
Perhaps you were just being assured that China would not be invading Taiwan as they have been threatening to do for so long to the consternation of many, including those neighboring nations who would likely be next on the CCP's list in their quest to rule the world.
Gigi Young is talking about all that in her latest update posted here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113646-Gigi-Young-Talks&p=1675734&viewfull=1#post1675734
I think one reason that Russia may become the hope of the world is that once the poles have reversed and the geomagnetic excursion of continents takes place, Russia's new climate will be much warmer and there will be lots of farmland there which will be yielding crops.
Yes, yes! That's exactly what I thought when I first read about the 'hope' of Russia in Cayce's predictions. It's not to do with geopolitics, but location. In the future, that vast landmass is going to be equatorial; it'll be the bread-basket of the world, and therefore, perhaps, the seat of a new global civilisation moving forward. Yes. :stars: Of interest, when I posted this (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120195-Your-next-incarnation&p=1675699&viewfull=1#post1675699) yesterday...
I was 'told' a few years ago that whatever happens in the world in the next few years, 'Central Asia will be safe'. I never mentioned this specifically in my More predictions (maybe) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-) thread, as it seemed a little too general. But I noted those exact words down for myself in my journal and have never forgotten them.... I still have no information about why 'Central Asia will be safe'. I just 'got' the info as that one very simple sentence, with no explanation attached. :)
Squareinthecircle
30th October 2025, 23:38
Great work here thanks all. I’ve been exploring a broader, cosmological way of looking at reincarnation — not as the return of individual souls, but of entire worlds.
What follows is a short essay that came out of that line of thought. It isn’t meant to contradict anyone’s beliefs, just seeing what sticks.
🜄 IV. The Reincarnation of the World
by Kevin Boykin — 10/14/25
Reincarnation is not the return of souls, but of worlds. The universe repeats not because it forgets, but because it remembers imperfectly — because the moral structures it gives rise to have yet to achieve coherence. What is reborn is not the individual, but the experiment. Humanity’s recurrence is not a promise of comfort, but an opportunity to correct a flaw written into consciousness itself.
The Great Filter, spoken of by cosmologists, is not merely an astrophysical mystery but a moral one. It is the safeguard that ensures only civilizations capable of compassion survive their own intelligence. The filter is the universe’s immune system — a defense against moral incoherence spreading across the stars. To transcend it is to prove that awareness can coexist with restraint, that creation can occur without domination.
Every extinction, every collapse, is a cosmic reset — a kind of moral apoptosis, the programmed death of a failing cell in the larger body of existence. Civilizations that worship their tools or forget their souls are quietly reabsorbed into the great silence. But those that endure learn to harmonize progress with empathy, reason with reverence.
In this light, reincarnation is not a spiritual consolation but a law of repair. Worlds reappear until they remember how to live without destroying themselves. Each iteration draws closer to the equilibrium the universe seeks — a balance between knowledge and mercy, between curiosity and humility.
We, too, are a recurrence — an echo of prior attempts at awakening. Our technologies mirror those of forgotten epochs; our dreams remember futures already tried. If we succeed, it will not be because we are new, but because we finally learned what it means to begin again without arrogance.
To be reborn is not to return — it is to continue the unfinished sentence of creation. Humanity is that sentence, still learning its grammar.
Bill Ryan
2nd November 2025, 12:48
Thanks for bumping this fascinating thread! :highfive:
I'm increasingly leaning to planning my next incarnation to be in Russia. (I was 'told' a few years ago that whatever happens in the world in the next few years, 'Central Asia will be safe'. I never mentioned this specifically in my More predictions (maybe) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-) thread, as it seemed a little too general. But I noted those exact words down for myself in my journal and have never forgotten them.)
Based on everything which I believe I know and understand, the 'west' is dying an inevitable slow death culturally and economically, a decline which might also be accelerated by war and/or natural events. In contrast, readers might remember that Edgar Cayce wrote (https://content.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/out-of-russia-will-come-hope/) that "out of Russia will come the hope of the world." I find myself taking that 100% seriously, and I do feel it's very likely to be accurate.A thinking-aloud personal update. :flower: I'm still leaning towards Russia. But more and more I've been feeling that Planet Earth may increasingly be cooked in a whole bunch of ways, uncontrolled AI moving rapidly towards the top of the list.
So I might find myself retreating off-planet for a couple of lifetimes taking a break while I re-assess it all. I know exactly where I'd go (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120829-Two-ET-civilizations-speculations-to-consider), a kind of rare utopian paradise, a beautiful, high-tech garden planet with no wars or conflict, all major issues long ago resolved.
But one of the reasons we come here is exactly because of the problems and major challenges, and the need to help others if we can. Every time we reincarnate, we choose, unconsciously or otherwise, to use the opportunity to (a) help others, (b) grow personally if we can, and (c) have an interesting and challenging time tackling new kinds of problems.
TrumanCash
2nd November 2025, 15:11
Thanks for bumping this fascinating thread! :highfive:
I'm increasingly leaning to planning my next incarnation to be in Russia. (I was 'told' a few years ago that whatever happens in the world in the next few years, 'Central Asia will be safe'. I never mentioned this specifically in my More predictions (maybe) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-) thread, as it seemed a little too general. But I noted those exact words down for myself in my journal and have never forgotten them.)
Based on everything which I believe I know and understand, the 'west' is dying an inevitable slow death culturally and economically, a decline which might also be accelerated by war and/or natural events. In contrast, readers might remember that Edgar Cayce wrote (https://content.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/out-of-russia-will-come-hope/) that "out of Russia will come the hope of the world." I find myself taking that 100% seriously, and I do feel it's very likely to be accurate.A thinking-aloud personal update. :flower: I'm still leaning towards Russia. But more and more I've been feeling that Planet Earth may increasingly be cooked in a whole bunch of ways, uncontrolled AI moving rapidly towards the top of the list.
So I might find myself retreating off-planet for a couple of lifetimes taking a break while I re-assess it all. I know exactly where I'd go (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120829-Two-ET-civilizations-speculations-to-consider), a kind of rare utopian paradise, a beautiful, high-tech garden planet with no wars or conflict, all major issues long ago resolved.
But one of the reasons we come here is exactly because of the problems and major challenges, and the need to help others if we can. Every time we reincarnate, we choose, unconsciously or otherwise, to use the opportunity to (a) help others, (b) grow personally if we can, and (c) have an interesting and challenging time tackling new kinds of problems.
So, Bill, if you eventually choose not to go to Russia but to go to a peaceful planet, what would you consciously do (if anything) before body death to help insure that you indeed arrive at and are accepted at a spiritually-based, peaceful planet?
For example, given that most people lack conscious control upon death, would you telepathically contact the head of planetary immigration and naturalization of such a planet prior to body death to help insure that all would go as planned and that you would be accepted as a "legal" immigrant (or refugee) to said planet? BTW, not trying to be cute here--I've been seriously considering doing this.
I'm certain I'm not the only one wondering if there is an effective solution to this problem of escaping from this planet. Unlike many people, I am not hopeful about a sane and loving future environment on Earth given the direction of AI control and for many other reasons. So I'd like to hear about some good ideas to implement that might effect a positive outcome.
Bill Ryan
2nd November 2025, 16:35
So, Bill, if you eventually choose not to go to Russia but to go to a peaceful planet, what would you consciously do (if anything) before body death to help insure that you indeed arrive at and are accepted at a spiritually-based, peaceful planet? I don't know! But I do know that back in 1850, at the end of that life as a Tibetan Lama, I made the conscious decision to be reborn in 'the west' after I'd perceived in meditation that there was a distant land that was in trouble and badly needed help.
(But of course, I might have been a bit more of a spiritual adept then than I am now :P)
HopSan
2nd November 2025, 18:52
BillRyan:
[Work]
I'm still leaning towards Russia. But more and more I've been
feeling that Planet Earth may increasingly be cooked in a whole
bunch of ways, uncontrolled AI moving rapidly towards the top of the
list.
[Holiday]
So I might find myself retreating off-planet for a couple of
lifetimes taking a break while I re-assess it all. I know exactly
where I'd go, a kind of rare utopian paradise, a beautiful,
high-tech garden planet with no wars or conflict, all major issues
long ago resolved.
[High Boss]
But one of the reasons we come here is exactly because of the
problems and major challenges, and the need to help others if we
can. Every time we reincarnate, we choose, unconsciously or
otherwise, to use the opportunity to (a) help others, (b) grow
personally if we can, and (c) have an interesting and challenging
time tackling new kinds of problems.
Hopsan:
I'm not worried about AI (I have done the work, won't happen).
And yes, Russia is (and shall be for some time) obviously the smartest
place to be. For some, China perhaps also.
As I look backwards, I see that I have been waiting for more than 30
years for some sanity. Finnish people are fine, but much, much too
good-hearted, not realists enough.
My time in this incarnation is running out, some thousands of days of
full strength left. There is no obvious place for people of my kind.
And there shall not be soon.
So I guess that I shall be having a break of some sort before next 'physical'.
I shall be commanded back, when there is something for me to give or learn.
I have lots of human weaknesses -- so Godhood is not near. :facepalm:
Blastolabs
3rd November 2025, 03:10
Stand By for a Music Break With Lyrics Inspired by this very thread.
I have been clearly shown many times that all separation is an illusion we manifested for this specific version of the game. (This life) Since we all literally ARE the very universe in which we navigate incarnations in this realm are likely "learning modules" I believe the universe decides (THAT IS YOU) You decide when you are ready to move on to the next stage. So on our next incarnation where there was a wall before, there may be an OPENING this time!
The future will be bright. These songs were generated with ai of course, but they still give me goosebumps and connect me to what I have always been.
I've noticed countless DEEP sychronicities in ai generated lyrics lately that it is clear "the universe" is in tune with and a part of this new tool.
🎵 Verse 1
The ledger says the figures are clean and precise. But the feeling has a price, it's a new kind of vice. I was programmed to stop the fluid from the leak, But the signal from the soul is the only one I seek. There's an exit that’s opening where the wall used to be, It pulls itself back and it looks exactly like me.
[Chorus]
Hope is a beam
(beam!) cutting through the void
Optimism’s a tool that cannot be destroyed
(Oo-yeah!) Feel the primal rhythm
Let it take control
the big wheels spinning, it’s not letting me down! (Oh-Yeah!) I feel the Rhythm, I let it just flow— The System gets a purpose when you know where to go.
Optimism is CHOICE! Pass it on
https://github.com/IC-Alchemy/Music-for-the-Awakening-/raw/refs/heads/main/Logic%20and%20Light.mp3
Michi
3rd November 2025, 22:57
Thanks for bumping this fascinating thread! :highfive:
I'm increasingly leaning to planning my next incarnation to be in Russia. (I was 'told' a few years ago that whatever happens in the world in the next few years, 'Central Asia will be safe'. I never mentioned this specifically in my More predictions (maybe) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123844-More-predictions--maybe-) thread, as it seemed a little too general. But I noted those exact words down for myself in my journal and have never forgotten them.)
Based on everything which I believe I know and understand, the 'west' is dying an inevitable slow death culturally and economically, a decline which might also be accelerated by war and/or natural events. In contrast, readers might remember that Edgar Cayce wrote (https://content.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/out-of-russia-will-come-hope/) that "out of Russia will come the hope of the world." I find myself taking that 100% seriously, and I do feel it's very likely to be accurate.A thinking-aloud personal update. :flower: I'm still leaning towards Russia. But more and more I've been feeling that Planet Earth may increasingly be cooked in a whole bunch of ways, uncontrolled AI moving rapidly towards the top of the list.
So I might find myself retreating off-planet for a couple of lifetimes taking a break while I re-assess it all. I know exactly where I'd go (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120829-Two-ET-civilizations-speculations-to-consider), a kind of rare utopian paradise, a beautiful, high-tech garden planet with no wars or conflict, all major issues long ago resolved.
But one of the reasons we come here is exactly because of the problems and major challenges, and the need to help others if we can. Every time we reincarnate, we choose, unconsciously or otherwise, to use the opportunity to (a) help others, (b) grow personally if we can, and (c) have an interesting and challenging time tackling new kinds of problems.
So, Bill, if you eventually choose not to go to Russia but to go to a peaceful planet, what would you consciously do (if anything) before body death to help insure that you indeed arrive at and are accepted at a spiritually-based, peaceful planet?
For example, given that most people lack conscious control upon death, would you telepathically contact the head of planetary immigration and naturalization of such a planet prior to body death to help insure that all would go as planned and that you would be accepted as a "legal" immigrant (or refugee) to said planet? BTW, not trying to be cute here--I've been seriously considering doing this.
I'm certain I'm not the only one wondering if there is an effective solution to this problem of escaping from this planet. Unlike many people, I am not hopeful about a sane and loving future environment on Earth given the direction of AI control and for many other reasons. So I'd like to hear about some good ideas to implement that might effect a positive outcome.
@Bill (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?u=6): Perhaps we could meet there as your description of a favorable planet exactly matches my view. :chuckle:
Supposedly there is a way to scout out other planets and civilzations beforehand:
(like browsing the menu of your favorite restaurant)
One person, well versed into OBE is Isabella Greene.
With her technique which consists of a specific breathing technique and focused meditation she stresses the importance of bypassing the astral completely because that plane is the location of the Afterlife Dimension which is managed by beings -- the "handlers" who seek to recycle souls back to earth.
Further, she says: "you're not going to go into the Afterlife Dimension, you go straight into the void or you go straight to the place where you selected."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM0duW5OANc
In that video, starting at about [47:48 (https://youtu.be/gM0duW5OANc?si=H4tdJ7_MPhhqnrZo&t=2868)] and [49:00 (https://youtu.be/gM0duW5OANc?si=SocRFqHnwepfGJJl&t=2940)] she recommends to scope out what's out there because there are so many other planets and dimensions out there to choose from after this lifetime.
As for my part: I haven't pulled my self together to dicipline myself to follow through Isabellas Quantum Travel procedure in order to give a testimonial.
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