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East Sun
24th January 2011, 03:12
Was the snake in the Garden of Eden mentioned in Genesis really a reptilian? With translations from Hebrew to Greek to English and snakes not being known by humans to talk it could have been misconstrued---a talking snake? Never made sense.
Also there is the statement, "Come, let US make man in out image." US meant plural Gods. That ties in with the Sitchin work on ancient ETs in Sumaria being known to be 'gods' with great powers. Some believe that the stories in the OT were taken from Sumarian stories that were written earlier. Clay tablets still exist of their writings.
And later those gods mated with the "daughters of men" also stated in the OT.
There are parts of the puzzle of out existence to be put together that are really interesting. We might not have to wait much longer to find out if we were kept in the dark by organized religions. Seems like it. :alien:

Teakai
24th January 2011, 03:26
I'd say it's likey, East Sun.
Also - after - apparently these snakes were then cursed to go about on there bellies - which indicates that prior to that they had limbs.

Possibly these reptilians are also the Christian version of the devil.

Dunno - but it's interesting joining the dots and seeing what pictures they make.

Was the God of the old testament reptilian/s - sure sounds like he/they might have been to me.

PHARAOH
24th January 2011, 14:03
East Sun, You are correct and are on the right track. These were the Reptilians in the garden but do not mistake them for the Annunaki as so many do.

Deega
24th January 2011, 15:08
East Sun, You are correct and are on the right track. These were the Reptilians in the garden but do not mistake them for the Annunaki as so many do.

Hi Pharaoh,

Thanks for the post, may you tell who were the Reptilians if not Annunaki..?, and may you share the authors you're using on the rationale...?

All my blessings.

Deega

East Sun
25th January 2011, 13:37
I'd say it's likey, East Sun.
Also - after - apparently these snakes were then cursed to go about on there bellies - which indicates that prior to that they had limbs.

Possibly these reptilians are also the Christian version of the devil.

Dunno - but it's interesting joining the dots and seeing what pictures they make.

Was the God of the old testament reptilian/s - sure sounds like he/they might have been to me.

Hi Teakai,
There is a distinction between the 'god' that was 'in charge' and the one who told Eve the truth about the tree of knowledge. They seem different. One had a lot more power than the 'other' of course. I have come to realize that the Garden was most likely in Atlantis. But there were others in other lands at least many thousands of years later when they had to leave the islands that were breaking up. They left by flying machines to Egypt and many parts of the world in my thinking based on the writings of Edgar Cayce. Built pyramids etc. but left at some point, evidently taking their knowledge with them.
So it may be that we are again reaching the point that they were at, and should have learned to not use power for 'evil' as that was what caused the sinking of Atlantis and later the other islands. We are expecting that some day they will come back BUT maybe they have been back for a while. I wonder if this time they will do better. ES

East Sun
25th January 2011, 13:44
East Sun, You are correct and are on the right track. These were the Reptilians in the garden but do not mistake them for the Annunaki as so many do.

I have the same question as Deega.
Observation--I always wonder how someone can be so definite about such things. A lot of us have done a lot of research and have some knowledge but as for anything being absolutely correct, I'm not so sure.

The One
25th January 2011, 13:53
The Nagas in India’s mythology are a race of serpent beings. They usually are depicted with half man, and half serpent like bodies. According to Credo Mutwa who is a Zulu shaman, people were not allow to depict these reptilian entities in their true form or they would be killed. Could this be why that people do not wish to depict the Muslim god Allah? That is a good question. People still portrayed these images regardless but not exactly what they looked like. Since the Nagas is more like a race of beings, they were able to depict the lower class, as long as they left out the Nagas royalty or reptilian royalty. Many temples in India also depict these reptilian entities as we would depict Christ in a Christian church. The snake symbolism is everywhere. The Nagas in Indian scripture speak of legends of the Naga living underground and coming to the surface to interact with human beings. Could reptilians have originated naturally on Earth instead of coming from another planet? Some versions of the scriptures speak of another reptilian race the Sarpa, that lived on a continent in the middle of the pacific ocean that sank beneath the waves. This could be a sort of lost city of Atlantis that other cultures have spoken of

http://www.khandro.net/animal_serpent.htm

PHARAOH
25th January 2011, 13:56
Hi Pharaoh,

Thanks for the post, may you tell who were the Reptilians if not Annunaki..?, and may you share the authors you're using on the rationale...?

All my blessings.

Deega

Sure Deegan and thanks for asking. The Reptilians are the original rulers of this planet as they were the first and are usually the first to evolve within creation. They are the ones who "observed" the workings of the so called GOD of the bible during the supposed creation of earth. When you see quotes in the scriptures that state "God moved upon the surface of the waters" or "God said let thier be light" these are observences of someone who was here before God came down and witnessed what was taking place. These were the Reptilians. The Annunaki were the Gods which came down from the heavens in thier wing shaped crafts. Because of all of the uphevel and turmoil that was created on this planet during Nubiru's arrival, the Reptilians thought this to be an attack on this planet. Many of the Reptilians died because of this and those that survived hold the Annunaki and Humans in contempt to this very day as we are the Annunaki's creation. Although the Annunaki came in peace, they were greated as the aggressors. The Annunaki then began to repair the earth from all of the damages made during Nubiriu's arrival. But still the Reptilians were not happy and wanted them to leave. As was customary during those times the only way to peace was through the intermarrying of the two bloodlines. So it was decided that Anu was to marry the Draconian (Reptilian) daugter IYD. Thus the merger of the 3 bloodlines. 1. Annunaki 2. Reptilian 3. Human. You see the Reptilians demanded that the new life form have thier DNA as well as the Annunaki since this new creation was to inhabit this earth and rightly so as this atmosphere is friendly to Reptiles. Hu-man is just another word for waterbeing. Or as dotors and scientist would say Seamen- or - Semen. Overstand? The powers that be want us to hate the Annunaki because they know that they will return and want humanity to prepare themselves for a fight against the Annunaki when they arrive. We must not allow them to decieve us as these are our parents and they are coming back for thier children. As you can see the media is doing a great job of this through V, Independence Day, Arrivals etc. Also the false flag E.T. threat. Do your research and you will see no pics showing the Annunaki are Reptilian. However you may see dipictions of them working together along with greys etc. Through your own experiances I'm sure you can see all the different characteristics of Annunaki, Reptilian and human in yourself as in most of us. Some have more of one then the other but such is DNA. Hope I helped answer your questions. As for the source of my knowledge "The Holy Tablets".

East Sun
25th January 2011, 14:38
Thanks, Pharoah, for 'The Holy Tablets' info. Is it readily available? If so where?
Thanks in advance. ES

Deega
25th January 2011, 15:53
Sure Deegan and thanks for asking. The Reptilians are the original rulers of this planet as they were the first and are usually the first to evolve within creation. They are the ones who "observed" the workings of the so called GOD of the bible during the supposed creation of earth. When you see quotes in the scriptures that state "God moved upon the surface of the waters" or "God said let thier be light" these are observences of someone who was here before God came down and witnessed what was taking place. These were the Reptilians. The Annunaki were the Gods which came down from the heavens in thier wing shaped crafts. Because of all of the uphevel and turmoil that was created on this planet during Nubiru's arrival, the Reptilians thought this to be an attack on this planet. Many of the Reptilians died because of this and those that survived hold the Annunaki and Humans in contempt to this very day as we are the Annunaki's creation. Although the Annunaki came in peace, they were greated as the aggressors. The Annunaki then began to repair the earth from all of the damages made during Nubiriu's arrival. But still the Reptilians were not happy and wanted them to leave. As was customary during those times the only way to peace was through the intermarrying of the two bloodlines. So it was decided that Anu was to marry the Draconian (Reptilian) daugter IYD. Thus the merger of the 3 bloodlines. 1. Annunaki 2. Reptilian 3. Human. You see the Reptilians demanded that the new life form have thier DNA as well as the Annunaki since this new creation was to inhabit this earth and rightly so as this atmosphere is friendly to Reptiles. Hu-man is just another word for waterbeing. Or as dotors and scientist would say Seamen- or - Semen. Overstand? The powers that be want us to hate the Annunaki because they know that they will return and want humanity to prepare themselves for a fight against the Annunaki when they arrive. We must not allow them to decieve us as these are our parents and they are coming back for thier children. As you can see the media is doing a great job of this through V, Independence Day, Arrivals etc. Also the false flag E.T. threat. Do your research and you will see no pics showing the Annunaki are Reptilian. However you may see dipictions of them working together along with greys etc. Through your own experiances I'm sure you can see all the different characteristics of Annunaki, Reptilian and human in yourself as in most of us. Some have more of one then the other but such is DNA. Hope I helped answer your questions. As for the source of my knowledge "The Holy Tablets".

Thanks Pharaon,

Interesting, thanks for the Holy Tablets link, will have a read to do.

I'm reading Anton Parks actually. It will be interesting to make connection with the Holy Tablets, I would think that the connection will be seen.

All my blessings.

Deega

PHARAOH
25th January 2011, 20:27
Enjoy the journey Deegan.

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East Sun, "The Holy Tablets" are no longer in print or circulation. May want to try Ebay. They are hard to come by. Good luck and enjoy your journey.

3optic
25th January 2011, 20:42
Enjoy the journey Deegan.

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East Sun, "The Holy Tablets" are no longer in print or circulation. May want to try Ebay. They are hard to come by. Good luck and enjoy your journey.

Interesting..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vABb6R5bqu8

Charlie Pecos
25th January 2011, 23:12
Hello Pharoah,

Thank you for your post as it has helped me to understand something that happened to me last week which I was quite perplexed about. I was in meditation and had my first time experience with walking through "the door" and it was quite intense. One of the things I was warned about was the "lizards" (their words). They showed me what the lizards look like, I could hear their throaty, hissing, growl, and I felt fear like I have never known in my life. They warned me several times in that session about the "lizards". Can anyone tell me if they have had a similar experience? Or if someone could point me in the right direction to find out more about why I was warned so heavily I would truly appreciate the assistance. Oh, they kept telling me the lizards are very "tricky". Thank you.

3optic
26th January 2011, 00:58
Hello Pharoah,

Thank you for your post as it has helped me to understand something that happened to me last week which I was quite perplexed about. I was in meditation and had my first time experience with walking through "the door" and it was quite intense. One of the things I was warned about was the "lizards" (their words). They showed me what the lizards look like, I could hear their throaty, hissing, growl, and I felt fear like I have never known in my life. They warned me several times in that session about the "lizards". Can anyone tell me if they have had a similar experience? Or if someone could point me in the right direction to find out more about why I was warned so heavily I would truly appreciate the assistance. Oh, they kept telling me the lizards are very "tricky". Thank you.

I would refer you to Peggy Kane:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=692524212659068187#

This was posted in this discussion, # 16:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11047-Plausible-points-for-the-reptilian-case

It's an hour and 40 min interview but well worth it imo. Hope this helps!

Charlie Pecos
26th January 2011, 01:01
Thank you 3optic, I really appreciate your help!

East Sun
26th January 2011, 02:04
Interesting..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vABb6R5bqu8

3optic,
Thanks for that video. Did you find any info on how it may be possible to purchase copies? If you did or do please let me know on here. Looks like there are two parts at least.
Do you know when and where they written? Thanks.

ketikoti
26th January 2011, 03:04
3optic,
Thanks for that video. Did you find any info on how it may be possible to purchase copies? If you did or do please let me know on here. Looks like there are two parts at least.
Do you know when and where they written? Thanks.

written by Malachi York, convicted for fraud and child molestation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwaubianism

3optic
26th January 2011, 03:10
3optic,
Thanks for that video. Did you find any info on how it may be possible to purchase copies? If you did or do please let me know on here. Looks like there are two parts at least.
Do you know when and where they written? Thanks.

I saw copies for 60 bucks on ebay. It says 1st edition 1996. I am new to the material so I only found out by searching today.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Holy-Tablets-Illustrated-1st-Edition-1996-/320647897628?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa81aa21c#ht_2744wt_1003

Sowelu
26th January 2011, 03:10
I've wondered the same. Especially since some of the more edited versions of the bible talk about how satan "the enemy" wanted to rule the earth and felt that man could not take care of themselves. Also on the scientific flipside maybe theres more to the "extinction" of reptiles than they wanted us to know. So easy it is to just be told that an asteroid happened. I always thought maybe they just evolved into something else.

slipknotted
26th January 2011, 04:00
why not were you there ?

RedeZra
26th January 2011, 05:29
Also there is the statement, "Come, let US make man in out image." US meant plural Gods. That ties in with the Sitchin work on ancient ETs in Sumaria being known to be 'gods' with great powers. Some believe that the stories in the OT were taken from Sumarian stories that were written earlier. Clay tablets still exist of their writings.
And later those gods mated with the "daughters of men" also stated in the OT.



I believe God is talking with the Angels whom He made before the earth and mankind

I believe a group of Angels mated with women as they are very capable and have the capacity to put on physicality


the children of such an angelic-mortal union would be pretty special and in the Bible they are referred to as the heroes of old

the Sumerian Gilgamesh was probably one of these gigantic hybrids - a demigod of superhuman strength


the Sumerian tablets also tell about a flood and the confusion of languages at Babel as mankind used to speak in one tounge

East Sun
26th January 2011, 17:52
I believe God is talking with the Angels whom He made before the earth and mankind

I believe a group of Angels mated with women as they are very capable and have the capacity to put on physicality

That may be, but the OT does not say, 'Angels mated with etc.'
"The sons of "God/gods" (i make it plural as, in the garden the god was talking to others who had powers to create mankind, like himself) mated with the daughters of man." Why would a God say to Angels 'our' (image) unless the Angels were made in the gods image also which could be, as evidenced elsewhere. So, the sons of the gods mated with the daughters of man which were the descendants of Adam and Eve. The Angels were not referred to as the sons of God/gods. A lot can be lost in translations and has caused confusion and misunderstandings for the longest time.

Rocky_Shorz
26th January 2011, 18:00
has anyone ever wondered why Dragon remains were never found by archeologist?

Dragons are reptiles and myths from around the world talk of them in the sky terrorizing villages...

also why they were considered evil by man...

so were they just myths? Magical? or...

East Sun
27th January 2011, 03:15
A lot of Myths were based on real events that took place and were handed down from generation to generation for eons. imo.

RedeZra
27th January 2011, 13:07
That may be, but the OT does not say, 'Angels mated with etc.'
"The sons of "God/gods" (i make it plural as, in the garden the god was talking to others who had powers to create mankind, like himself) mated with the daughters of man." Why would a God say to Angels 'our' (image) unless the Angels were made in the gods image also which could be, as evidenced elsewhere. So, the sons of the gods mated with the daughters of man which were the descendants of Adam and Eve. The Angels were not referred to as the sons of God/gods. A lot can be lost in translations and has caused confusion and misunderstandings for the longest time.


Gen 1:27 makes clear that God [Elohim] is the Creator and He is One

"So God created man in his image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." - Gen 1:27


Why then does the preceding verse in Gen 1:26 speak of 'us' and 'our image' ?

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness..." - Gen 1:26


God [Elohim] is certainly plural in Hebrew form but then again God [Elohim] is Singular in this specific sense ( just ask a Jew )

So it seems that God is conversing with someone just before creating man 'in His image' as it is stated in Gen 1:27 and 'male and female created he them'


I believe that the plurality in Gen 1:26 is ment to convey that our earthbound souls have a home in Heaven and if God is not speaking with Angels then He just confirmed His Trinity



According to the Bible the Nephilim were giants - huge hybrid offsprings between the 'sons of God' [ben Elohim] and the daughters of men

"There were giants [Nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God [ben Elohim] came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same 'mighty men' [Gibborim] which were of old, men of renown." - Gen 6:4


It seems that gene gigantism survived the flood as 'the Promised land' was inhabited with giants so perhaps instead of flooding the world again God chose the Israelites to rid the world of the Nephilic freaks of nature

"And there we saw the giants [Nephilim], the sons of Anak, which come of the giants [Nephilim]: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight." - Num 13:33

the sons of Anak or Anaqiy (Anakims) 'long-necked' which the Moabites called Eymiym (Emims) 'terrors' and the Ammonites called Zamzom (Zamzummims) or 'plotters'


the sons of God 'ben Elohim' fathered the giants but who were they ?

According to Biblical apocrypha like Enoch and Jubilees the sons of God [ben Elohim] were an angelic group of Grigori or Watchers that were supposed to look after and assist mankind but ended up corrupting our ancestors instead

East Sun
27th January 2011, 14:14
written by Malachi York, convicted for fraud and child molestation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwaubianism

Thanks for that info.
From what I've seen in the video I don't think i'll bother reading it. Too costly and the sketches look familiar for some reason. I don't know but think I have a good idea of what it's about.

East Sun
27th January 2011, 14:19
I saw copies for 60 bucks on ebay. It says 1st edition 1996. I am new to the material so I only found out by searching today.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Holy-Tablets-Illustrated-1st-Edition-1996-/320647897628?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa81aa21c#ht_2744wt_1003

Thank you for this information 3optic.
At first I was enthusiastic about reading it but not now. If I found it somewhere I'd skip over it but the video does that and that's enough for me.
On to the next......