Are we evolving into Ants?

[Dorjezigzag]

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Are we evolving into ants?

This seems like a very absurd question to ask but we live in very absurd times.

This video takes you on a journey exploring the animist roots of culture and considers the echoes that can be recognized today.

What is the connection between animism and the practice of shamanism and the modern day obsession with aliens?

Please try to watch this video with an open mind. I am not on any evangelical mission to convert people to my view of the world. I am just sharing my observations and connecting some dots that I believe reveals something deeper and I hope you get something from it too.

Because this video looks at the world through an animist lens that does not mean that it should be seen as anti-Christian or anti any major religion. It is my belief that a greater understanding can be found through the acknowledgement of the animist roots in all cultures. As inhabitants of earth, we can’t escape this reality unless we destroy the very ground we walk on.

The exploration of environmental issues in the video goes to the real problems facing the earth not the issues presented by the elites as deflections to these issues. Notice that the environmental problems presented by the elites usually involve natural substances such as carbon dioxide. Whereas the true problems are the result of the corporations twisting and adulterating nature into synthetic products. Like the transformation of a healthy cell into a cancerous one.

The concept behind the video was first part of an article I wrote in the late 90s. Which then became part of a university dissertation around 2000- 2001. I've felt its become more and more relevant. I was talking about the intersex frogs way before Alex Jones lol.

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[Pam]

I'm willing to go with the possibility we are being nanoteched and dna spliced and diced into greys as an interesting possibility... The fact that time is not necessarily linear means when we look into the ant like soulless eyes of a grey we could be looking at our future race. At least in this story line. Thanks for a most interesting topic.

[Dorjezigzag]

I'm willing to go with we are being nanoteched and dna spliced and diced in greys ... The fact that time is not linear means when look into the antlike soulless eyes of a grey we could be looking at our future race. At least in this story line. Thanks for a most interesting topic.

Indeed, I haven't even gotten onto the nanotech and the acceleration of synthetic manipulation through mrna vaccines and such like which is accelerating all the transformations. Elites that fanatically promote transhumanism should really face where their manipulations are taking the future of humanity.

[Pam]

I hope you don't find this too off topic, Doriezigzag but it might,,, just might play a role here. Anyway it's a very interesting video.

5G Nanochip in Pfizer Covid Shot (under 200 magnification Proof)



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Imagine the possibilities if you dare.

[ExomatrixTV]

Google search "Spider Goat (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/jan/14/synthetic-biology-spider-goat-genetics)" producing not milk but silk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk) that is super light, super flexible and stronger than steel ... used in among others to produce next generation bulletproof vests.

The Goat does not look like a spider but has some specific spider genes ... and this is done more than a decade ago ...


How long before they use genes of an ant and "genetically enhance" humans (in secret) with some specific ant genes?

Maybe the grays posing as "ETs" are actually genetically enhanced humans from the future? ... and some of the reported UFOs are not "spaceships" but: Time Altering Devices!

Gray Humanoid Beings with big eyes, like ants (https://i.pinimg.com/564x/89/39/8c/89398c4c083aa8948f8a2807acac6ed4.jpg) have in relation to body size!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Dorjezigzag]

Google search "Spider Goat (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/jan/14/synthetic-biology-spider-goat-genetics)" producing not milk but silk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk) that is super light, super flexible and stronger than steel ... used in among others to produce next generation bulletproof vests.

The Goat does not look like a spider but has some specific spider genes ... and this is done more than a decade ago ...


How long before they use genes of an ant and "genetically enhance" humans (in secret) with some specific ant genes?

Maybe the grays posing as "ETs" are actually genetically enhanced humans from the future? ... and some of the reported UFOs are not "spaceships" but: Time Altering Devices!

Gray Humanoid Beings with big eyes, like ants (https://i.pinimg.com/564x/89/39/8c/89398c4c083aa8948f8a2807acac6ed4.jpg) have in relation to body size!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

At 50, everyone has the face he deserves,” wrote George Orwell in 1949. These were apparently the last words the Nineteen Eighty-Four author penned in his personal diary. He died just over six months later in 1950 at age 46, narrowly missing nature’s inevitable reward or punishment for a life well or ill lived.

Coco Chanel is credited with voicing a similar sentiment. “Nature gives you the face you have at 20. Life shapes the face you have at 30, But at 50 you get the face you deserve.”

We can also see this reflected Beyond a lifetime. A species and culture adapts and becomes a reflection of its character. Modern technology which in itself is a reflection of our mindset has massive implications but massive changes can occur even without its intervention. As explained in the video the ant association is not just the metamorphosis of the individual but the metamorphosis of the very structure of our society and our interactions.

[Sunny-side-up]

I guess Ants would be better than Microbes or virus that we are at the moment (As far as the world is concerned)

[Dorjezigzag]

Had a real synchronicity yesterday when I went to watch Dark Journalists latest X series video as his subject focus was on the Shamanism and alien connection. So he'd published this on the same day as me, without me knowing. He has mentioned before that witnesses of the men in black have reported that they seem to be of Sami origin.He takes us through the shamanic practises of the Sami and how this is relevant when looking at the Alien phenomenon. He further goes on to discuss other shamanic connections such as shape-shifting at skin walker ranch.

I talk in my video about how Alistair Crowley believed the gray alien like entity he experienced was a tibetan buddhist. Tibetan Buddhism of course retains and acknowledges its bon shamanism elements within its beliefs and practices.

https://studybuddhism.com/en/advanced-studies/abhidharma-tenet-systems/the-tibetan-traditions/bon-and-tibetan-buddhism

Dark journalist is refreshing as he appreciates that there is a supernatural aspect to the Alien phenomenon as well as other events. Unfortunately the way in modern culture seems to be that people always try to explain phenomenum in technological terms without trying to understand the supernatural aspect of certain phenomenon. This is part of the elites programing of the masses where they want to keep all supernatural knowledge to themselves. To remain as the occult (hidden).

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[Dorjezigzag]

I guess Ants would be better than Microbes or virus that we are at the moment (As far as the world is concerned)

I would be interested if you explained further why you believe humans are like microbes and viruses at the moment and that becoming ants would be an improvement.

It is interesting you bring up the concept of viruses in relation to my video as the concept of directed evolution has been particularly discussed at the moment due to the Project Veritas sting on the Pfizer director. Whereby he made claims of manipulating, accelerating and directing the evolution of a virus in order for it to become what the elites desire.

If there is a desire by the elites to direct the evolution of viruses, do you not think there is a desire to direct the evolution of humans. When Prof. Yuval Noah Harari talks about us becoming hackable humans do you think we would continue to look like humans? Would we still continue to be in God's image?

As discussed in the video both alien and ant communities appear to be very compliant and hackable and there are interesting visual similarities.

A great example of Ants hackability is shown by how a parasitic fungus can turn ants into zombies. This formed the concept behind the post-apocalypse Video game and now HBO series 'The last of us'.

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[Dorjezigzag]

Had another great synchronicity today. This is what I live for!

Someone left a comment on my video on youtube


Interesting. There is a guy called Samael Aun Weor, a Gnostic teacher who declared once that he had an experience in the astral plane in which he was able to perceive that ants were formerly human societies that had become automated.... strange stuff!!!!

Although I am somewhat familiar with Samael Aun Weor I was not familiar that he wrote about this. For him to have a similar perception to myself about ants is a huge confirmation for me.

Here is more information about him if interested https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael_Aun_Weor

I find further synchronicity in that one of my closest friends now lives in the Columbian Amazon and they have a community that follows the teachings of Samael Aun Weor. I am going to talk to him further about this.

Samael Aun Weor has written over 60 books. I did a search and believe I have found where he spoke about this

Treatise of Revolutionary Psychology:


Although it may seem incredible, the ants already passed through a similar process, in a remote, archaic past of our planet Earth. One is filled with wonder when contemplating the perfection of the nests of ants. There is no doubt that the order established in any ants' nest is overwhelming

The Initiates who have awakened their consciousness know through direct mystical experience that in ages which the most famous historians of the world do not even remotely suspect, the ants were a human race who created a very powerful socialist civilization.

At that time, the dictators of such a race eliminated the diverse religious sects and free will, for all of these things
undermined power away from them. They needed to be totalitarians in the most complete sense of the word. So, in these conditions, after having eliminated individual initiative and religious rights, these intellectual animals precipitated themselves downwards into the path of devolution and degeneration.

Moreover, they added to the aforementioned scientific experiments: transplant of organs, glands, hormonal tests,
etc., whose outcome was the gradual diminishing in size and the morphological alteration of their human organisms until finally, through the ages, they became the ants that we now know.

Thus, their entire civilization, all those movements related with their established social order, became mechanical and were inherited from parents to children. Today, one is astonished when seeing an ants' nest, but we cannot but lament its lack of intelligence.

Therefore, if we do not work on ourselves, we devolve and degenerate horribly.

[Dorjezigzag]

The more I am researching into the observations made by spiritual commentators who I hold in high regard in relation to the human/ ant relationship the more profoundness and depth I am discovering.

This one from P. D. Ouspensky who was a student of Gurdjieff’s

in his book A New Model of the universe
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Passing to facts, we must admit that insects are in no way a stage preparatory to the formation of man. Nor could they be regarded as the by-product of human evolution. On the contrary, insects reveal, in their structure and in the structure-of their separate parts and organs, forms which are often more perfect than those of man or animals. And we cannot help seeing that for certain forms of insect life which we observe there is no explanation without very complicated hypotheses, which necessitate the recognition of a very rich past behind them and compel us to regard the present forms we observe as degenerated forms.

This last consideration relates mainly to the organised communities of ants and bees. It is impossible to become acquainted with their life without giving oneself up to emotional impressions of astonishment and bewilderment. Ants and bees alike both call for our admiration by the wonderful completeness of their organisation, and at the same time repel and frighten us, and provoke a feeling of undefinable aversion by the invariably cold reasoning which dominates their life and by the absolute impossibility for an individual to escape from the wheel of life of the ant-hill or the beehive. We are terrified at the thought that we may resemble them.

Indeed what place do the communities of ants and bees occupy in the general scheme of things on our earth? How could they come into being such as we observe them? All observations of their life and their organisation inevitably lead us to one conclusion. The original organisation of the " beehive " and the " ant-hill " in the remote past undoubtedly required reasoning and logical intelligence of great power, although at the same time the further existence of both the beehive and the ant-hill did not require any intelligence or reasoning at all.

How could this have happened?

It could only have happened in one way. If ants or bees, or both, of course at different periods, had been intelligent and evolving beings and then lost their intelligence and their ability to evolve, this could have happened only because their " intelligence " went against their " evolution ", in other words, because in thinking that they were helping their evolution they managed somehow to arrest it.

One may suppose that both ants and bees came from the Great Laboratory and were sent to earth with the privilege and the possibility of evolving. But after a long period of struggle and efforts both the one and the other renounced their privilege and ceased to evolve, or, to be more exact, ceased to send forth an evolving current. After this Nature had to take her own measures and, after isolating them in a certain way, to begin a new experiment.

If we admit the possibility of this, may we not suppose that the old legends of falls which preceded the fall of man relate to ants and bees? We may find ourselves disconcerted by their small size as compared to our own. But the size of living beings is, first of all, a relative thing, and secondly it changes very easily in certain cases. In the case of certain classes of beings, for instance fishes, amphibious animals and insects. Nature holds in her hands the threads that regulate their size and never lets these threads go. In other words Nature possesses the power of changing the size of these living beings without altering anything in them, and can effect this change in one generation, that is, at once, simply by arresting their development at a certain stage. Everyone has seen small fishes exactly like large fishes, small frogs, etc. This is still more evident in the vegetable world. But of course it is not a universal rule, and some beings such as man and most of the higher mammals reach almost the largest size possible for them. As regards the insects, ants and bees most probably could be much larger than they are now, although this point may be argued; and it is possible that the change of size of the ant or the bee would necessitate a considerable alteration in their inner organisation.

[Dorjezigzag]

Based on his research, Tucker Carlson has concluded that good and evil interdimensional/spiritual forces are influencing humanity in such a profound manner that the controlled environment where mankind exists can be compared to an “ant farm.”



Answering a question about aliens, UFOs, and the spiritual war many are now finding themselves in, Carlson delved into what he believes is the true nature of these entities.

“They’re not aliens, they’ve always been here. I do think it’s spiritual,” said Carlson on Timcast IRL. “There is good and evil that we are being acted upon at all times … You are subject to forces from outside yourself.”

“There are forces that are not human that do exist in a spiritual realm of some kind that we cannot see and that, when you think about it, sort of makes you think we live on an ant farm.”

https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1737651362245267892

https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-video-tucker-carlson-warns-of-hostile-interdimensional-spiritual-forces-influencing-the-human-ant-farm/

[Dorjezigzag]

In my video at the beginning of the thread, I discuss the movie Starship Troopers which pits humanity against an alien insect society and
poignantly shows us we are not so different. The writer of the book the film was based on was Robert A. Heinlein who explored the idea that humans might be becoming more insect-like, both within and outside his science fiction works. One of the most notable places where he discussed this concept in non-fiction is in his 1959 lecture titled "The Pragmatics of Patriotism." In this speech, Heinlein touched on the idea that human societies might evolve in ways that increasingly resemble insect colonies, particularly with regard to social organization, conformity, and the subordination of individual needs to the collective.

Heinlein’s fascination with this concept is also evident in his later interviews and essays. He expressed concerns about the potential for human societies to become too regimented, bureaucratic, and dehumanized—qualities that he saw as resembling insect colonies. This theme is a recurring one in his speculative fiction, such as in Starship Troopers and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, where he explores the tension between individualism and collectivism.

"Grok," the name of X AI's chatbot, is derived from a word that Robert A. Heinlein coined. The term "grok" first appeared in Heinlein's 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land.

Meaning of "Grok":
In the novel, "grok" comes from the Martian language and is a complex term that means much more than just understanding something. To "grok" something means to comprehend it fully and deeply, to the point of becoming one with it. It implies an almost instinctive, holistic understanding that transcends mere intellectual grasp.

The word has since entered popular culture, especially among tech enthusiasts and programmers, where it often signifies an intuitive or deep understanding of a concept.

Connection to X AI:
Elon Musk's AI company, named its chatbot "Grok" likely to emphasize the chatbot's capability for deep learning and understanding, drawing on the rich connotations of the term coined by Heinlein. The name suggests that the AI aims to comprehend and interact with users in a way that goes beyond surface-level responses, aligning with the meaning of "grok" as a profound and complete understanding.

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[AutumnW]

The next step is hive like or ant farm like, for sure. Ants haven't got tribal warfare licked though, so there's that. There's no reason we couldn't evolve smaller and smaller bodies, ditch our tech, farm aphids, and live in the dirt with all of our sisters, in an aristocratic feudal state. I think it might work!YES!

[AutumnW]

I guess Ants would be better than Microbes or virus that we are at the moment (As far as the world is concerned)

I would be interested if you explained further why you believe humans are like microbes and viruses at the moment and that becoming ants would be an improvement.

It is interesting you bring up the concept of viruses in relation to my video as the concept of directed evolution has been particularly discussed at the moment due to the Project Veritas sting on the Pfizer director. Whereby he made claims of manipulating, accelerating and directing the evolution of a virus in order for it to become what the elites desire.

If there is a desire by the elites to direct the evolution of viruses, do you not think there is a desire to direct the evolution of humans. When Prof. Yuval Noah Harari talks about us becoming hackable humans do you think we would continue to look like humans? Would we still continue to be in God's image?

As discussed in the video both alien and ant communities appear to be very compliant and hackable and there are interesting visual similarities.

A great example of Ants hackability is shown by how a parasitic fungus can turn ants into zombies. This formed the concept behind the post-apocalypse Video game and now HBO series 'The last of us'.

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They have mind controlling fungus and we have 'deep state' propaganda. Same same.

[Pam]

The popping up of this thread comes at an interesting time. I have had a small number of "sugar ants" get into the house and I have been observing them. They are fearless in their endeavor to reach their goal. A vibration on the counter top brings a few of them out. Even though they are confronting a huge monster (me) they are fearless in their pursuit.

I see humans falling much closer into the hive mind in many respects, such as mindlessly following the "authorities" or influencers or others deemed to be leaders of some sort, but we certainly seem to lack the aspect of a hive mind that makes one fearless in pursuing the common goal.Perhaps we are the only species that is confused and deceived about what our common goal is? On the other side of the coin, maybe we have much the same set of instincts but with so many more choices to fulfill those instinctual drives. This allows us to delude ourselves in that we are still very much driven by a set of basic instincts but we can fulfill those instincts That which most write off to pure instinct.

On second thought, maybe we are at a point where some of us are trying very hard to break our hive mind parameters or die trying. Sorry for the jumbled post. Just musing out loud. I love this thread.

I have a deep respect and have learned a great deal by observing the behavioral patterns of insects this summer. I fear we are all swimming in a sea of chemicals that are unnatural to our biological makeup that anything goes at this point.

[mountain_jim]

maybe off topic but I could not help myself :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWNQeS0aIAA8745?format=jpg&name=900x900

[mountain_jim]

In my video at the beginning of the thread, I discuss the movie Starship Troopers which pits humanity against an alien insect society and
poignantly shows us we are not so different. The writer of the book the film was based on was Robert A. Heinlein who explored the idea that humans might be becoming more insect-like, both within and outside his science fiction works. One of the most notable places where he discussed this concept in non-fiction is in his 1959 lecture titled "The Pragmatics of Patriotism." In this speech, Heinlein touched on the idea that human societies might evolve in ways that increasingly resemble insect colonies, particularly with regard to social organization, conformity, and the subordination of individual needs to the collective.

Heinlein’s fascination with this concept is also evident in his later interviews and essays. He expressed concerns about the potential for human societies to become too regimented, bureaucratic, and dehumanized—qualities that he saw as resembling insect colonies. This theme is a recurring one in his speculative fiction, such as in Starship Troopers and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, where he explores the tension between individualism and collectivism.

"Grok," the name of X AI's chatbot, is derived from a word that Robert A. Heinlein coined. The term "grok" first appeared in Heinlein's 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land.

Meaning of "Grok":
In the novel, "grok" comes from the Martian language and is a complex term that means much more than just understanding something. To "grok" something means to comprehend it fully and deeply, to the point of becoming one with it. It implies an almost instinctive, holistic understanding that transcends mere intellectual grasp.

The word has since entered popular culture, especially among tech enthusiasts and programmers, where it often signifies an intuitive or deep understanding of a concept.

Connection to X AI:
Elon Musk's AI company, named its chatbot "Grok" likely to emphasize the chatbot's capability for deep learning and understanding, drawing on the rich connotations of the term coined by Heinlein. The name suggests that the AI aims to comprehend and interact with users in a way that goes beyond surface-level responses, aligning with the meaning of "grok" as a profound and complete understanding.

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I just finished Heinlein's Expanded Universe, which completes my reading of his written works, as well as his 1200 page authorized biography.

Started reading Heinlein's juveniles in 3rd grade when found in my grammar school library, 60 years ago. After retiring I caught up on his later works which I had not found time for previously.

His early books were what got me interested in reading (and especially science fiction and speculative fiction), and his ideas and storytelling always entertained me.

Recommend The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and of course Stranger in a Strange Land (original uncut version), both of which I reread in last couple of years, for anyone looking to check him out.

Really wish these 2 would get made into high-quality movies....

I first read Stranger in high school, staying up all night to finish rather than studying or resting for next day final exams, showing where my priorities were at the time. :)

If you really want to go deep into his later work, look up the best order to read them as numerous books and stories have interrelated characters and stories.

Recently watched this time-travel movie made from a short-story of his:

Predestination (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film))is a 2014 Australian science fiction action-thriller film[4] written and directed by Michael and Peter Spierig. The film stars Ethan Hawke, Sarah Snook, and Noah Taylor, and is based on the 1959 short story " '—All You Zombies—'" by Robert A. Heinlein.

[AutumnW]

"but we certainly seem to lack the aspect of a hive mind that makes one fearless in pursuing the common goal."

We're forced to be sort of fearless in chasing money, just to survive though. That may be too loose an analogy. I don't know. Most of us are fearless when it comes to protecting our children and pets too.

On the other hand, we don't lay down actual pheremone trails, and that's a good thing--otherwise this can happen. I can't think of an analogy here, other than being trapped in an information vortex.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEKwQxO4EZU

[Agape]

I think it possibly comes in the evo-devo , evolution-devolution hypothesis and in matters of biological evolution of a common species we are experiencing both trends, simultaneously.

It's scary to observe that indeed , human crowd behaviour is a mass movement of energy and psyche of unknown calibre and potential that can extrapolate itself to states of mass hypnosis, excitation or fear and literally consume individual souls and dissolve their self image and awareness to the state of scalar fish or swarm of bees.

The example of which was demonstrated number times, worldwide, during various types of large gathering of which some tragical examples resulted in substantial loss of intelligence on the human part ( obviously both organisers and attendees of any gathering are considered intelligent and decision capable entities) and loss of lives.

Under various mass circumstances human consciousness and entities indeed descended to behaviours reminding that of insects.


We have learned from Ants about the powerful organisation of Ant colonies. We have learned about various beetles coats and armours , exoskeleton and usage of cutlery:)

They do not exist on every Planet but they've been obviously left behind by some of their more advanced Space mothers and fathers who have passed their messages onto higher evolved humans .


Difficult as they are, we should not blame them for our own misery.
And no I do not recommend that we eat them or try to create offspring together:)

🦕

[Agape]

In my last Time evolution (hypothesis) Time itself , referring to the Galaxy Time which is giant expansion time wave to liken it to something containing in itself, the life Time of individual Stars , planets etc. and about most of both manifested and unmanifested Universe ( aka dark matter Universe)
Time moves (paces ahead) almost rhythmically,
moving step ahead and two steps back , in short sequence.

Hence we also experience self reflection, memory of past, large historical perspective and natural tendency to rest and retire but we can only see clear glimpse of true Future.


In order to "move to True Future" in evolution terms we then need to produce radical amount of effort.


In human terms: just "going with the flow" results in natural, long term intelligence decline


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Of course there is no use of mere statements. There still exists remedial passage , an option for better future that would include factors like supported parenthood so that today's parents could spend worthy , individual time with their children,
humanisation of education systems:

that would allow time and attention from teacher to individual student,

governments who actually listen and have the time to listen to individual problems and help those who are in dire need

instead..

sending people to church, rallies or costly private care most can not afford.


If the remedial path is not taken there's looming danger of turning us all to mere numbers, social animals and colonial ants in cars.

[Agape]

Besides that we have learned of the importance of web, web of Life from Spiders

There were times when giant insects inhabited this planet . Check important fossil evidence :)


Wish we could learn to live from flower nectars :)


According to some Buddhist prophecies ( vis Maitreya Sutra ) we are in period of human decline that will continue for next few thousand years (slow descent) untill humans become only about 4 inches tall and very short lived.

After the birth of next Buddha Maitreya who will be times taller than everyone else (at least 40 inches tall) the curse of genetic decline will be repelled and new human evolution era begins .


Maybe just a story though .

[Pam]

maybe off topic but I could not help myself :)

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I love this , Jim. If ants had size on their side I have no doubt who would come out the winners. They may be here long after we are anyway, there is something to be said for determination and pure pursuit of instinct without a bunch of silly distractions!!!!

[Pam]

"but we certainly seem to lack the aspect of a hive mind that makes one fearless in pursuing the common goal."

We're forced to be sort of fearless in chasing money, just to survive though. That may be too loose an analogy. I don't know. Most of us are fearless when it comes to protecting our children and pets too.

On the other hand, we don't lay down actual pheremone trails, and that's a good thing--otherwise this can happen. I can't think of an analogy here, other than being trapped in an information vortex.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEKwQxO4EZU

Wow!!!! This is both terrifying and can definitely be compared to the human "march" we seem to be on. Even willing, not everyone, but many, to sacrifice our own children to the mindless propaganda of mechanization's that only goal seems to be to strip us of everything, our health, our wealth, our mental and spiritual capacities, everything. What do we get in return, a shallow promise of some sort of safety and knowing we are in compliance with governance that is clearly psychopathic, insane and cares nothing about any of us. A governance that allows us to take our hard earned money and support senseless genocide with it. A world that demands we live at a level of cognitive dissonance that at least to me feels quite unbearable at times.

What will it take for the masses to see "the emperor has no friggin clothes"? Not only that but the emperor is butt ugly, weak and insane? It is time to wakey, wakey and step out of the death march. Not easy or comfortable. The march is hypnotic and easy, in fact, it can seem almost impossible to pull away from. The weird thing is, in my personal experience is that to pull out of one death march there is another one waiting and ready to be stepped into. Not only is our reality an inversion but it is fractal in nature. There is always more unless we can create an emphatic "NO"

I am developing more and more empathy and understanding from our little insect friends then I would ever dream.

Thanks everyone for a most interesting discussion.

Pam

[mountain_jim]

In my video at the beginning of the thread, I discuss the movie Starship Troopers which pits humanity against an alien insect society and
poignantly shows us we are not so different. The writer of the book the film was based on was Robert A. Heinlein who explored the idea that humans might be becoming more insect-like, both within and outside his science fiction works. One of the most notable places where he discussed this concept in non-fiction is in his 1959 lecture titled "The Pragmatics of Patriotism." In this speech, Heinlein touched on the idea that human societies might evolve in ways that increasingly resemble insect colonies, particularly with regard to social organization, conformity, and the subordination of individual needs to the collective.

Heinlein’s fascination with this concept is also evident in his later interviews and essays. He expressed concerns about the potential for human societies to become too regimented, bureaucratic, and dehumanized—qualities that he saw as resembling insect colonies. This theme is a recurring one in his speculative fiction, such as in Starship Troopers and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, where he explores the tension between individualism and collectivism.

"Grok," the name of X AI's chatbot, is derived from a word that Robert A. Heinlein coined. The term "grok" first appeared in Heinlein's 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land.

Meaning of "Grok":
In the novel, "grok" comes from the Martian language and is a complex term that means much more than just understanding something. To "grok" something means to comprehend it fully and deeply, to the point of becoming one with it. It implies an almost instinctive, holistic understanding that transcends mere intellectual grasp.

The word has since entered popular culture, especially among tech enthusiasts and programmers, where it often signifies an intuitive or deep understanding of a concept.

Connection to X AI:
Elon Musk's AI company, named its chatbot "Grok" likely to emphasize the chatbot's capability for deep learning and understanding, drawing on the rich connotations of the term coined by Heinlein. The name suggests that the AI aims to comprehend and interact with users in a way that goes beyond surface-level responses, aligning with the meaning of "grok" as a profound and complete understanding.

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I just finished Heinlein's Expanded Universe, which completes my reading of his written works, as well as his 1200 page authorized biography.

Started reading Heinlein's juveniles in 3rd grade when found in my grammar school library, 60 years ago. After retiring I caught up on his later works which I had not found time for previously.

His early books were what got me interested in reading (and especially science fiction and speculative fiction), and his ideas and storytelling always entertained me.

Recommend The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and of course Stranger in a Strange Land (original uncut version), both of which I reread in last couple of years, for anyone looking to check him out.

Really wish these 2 would get made into high-quality movies....

I first read Stranger in high school, staying up all night to finish rather than studying or resting for next day final exams, showing where my priorities were at the time. :)

If you really want to go deep into his later work, look up the best order to read them as numerous books and stories have interrelated characters and stories.

Recently watched this time-travel movie made from a short-story of his:

Predestination (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film))is a 2014 Australian science fiction action-thriller film[4] written and directed by Michael and Peter Spierig. The film stars Ethan Hawke, Sarah Snook, and Noah Taylor, and is based on the 1959 short story " '—All You Zombies—'" by Robert A. Heinlein.

saw this today - from my favorite Heinlein book

https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1831880394414944537

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[Dorjezigzag]

Profound quote from P. D. Ouspensky who was a student of Gurdjieff’s most respected for his incredible book 'In Search of the Miraculous'

" Intelligence " is not only useless in a beehive or an ant-hill, it would even be dangerous and harmful. Intelligence could not hand down all the laws, rules and methods of work with the same exactness from generation to generation. Intelligence could forget, could distort, could add something new. Intelligence could again lead to " mysticism ", to the idea of a higher intelligence, to the idea of esotericism. It was therefore necessary to banish intelligence from an ideal socialistic beehive or ant-hill, as an element harmful to the community—which in fact it is.

[Vicus]

For Ants lovers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcs3_b3VXSU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_IV_(1974_film)