A global disaster is coming in 2023 (that's for sure)!

[TheEndIsNear]

To understand current events, you must first learn the history. The world's biggest secret is that there have been tremendous global disasters in the past that decimated populations and caused the collapse of empires. Chronicles from the 14th and 6th centuries describe events as if from a disaster movie. They write of "an extraordinary earthquake over the whole world", "poisonous earthy exhalation", "fire falling from the sky for 16 days", "falling stars" (meteorites), "the sun became dark for 18 months", "hailstones of incredible size", "lightnings that killed thousands of men and animals", droughts and torrential rains destroying crops and causing famines so great that people resorted to cannibalism, and "a pestilence which spread over almost the entire world" and "swept away third part of the human race". And all this was happening within just a few years. These global disasters were caused by the impact of the Sun's magnetic field, which suddenly increases once every several hundred years. When this happens, the Earth is struck by violent cataclysms. Unfortunately, the next such catastrophe will occur in 2023-2025. Massive earthquakes will destroy entire countries. Asteroids will fall to the Earth. Powerful geomagnetic storms will cause long-term power outages. Sudden climate change all over the world will lead to widespread famine. Governments are afraid of a public panic and an uprising. They are going to instigate a world war to keep themselves in power through terror. They will allow a deadly pandemic to spread that will kill a few billion people. The media, both mainstream and alternative, will say that this is a man-made crisis. They will say that the disease is caused by radiation or a virus from a bio lab. They want you not to find out what the disease is and how to cure it. Earthquakes and climate change will be explained by HAARP. They will say the asteroids are nuclear bombs, and the power outage is due to a cyber attack or EMP. Do not believe it. Similar disasters have happened in the past. This is not just another conspiracy theory, but a cycle of global disasters confirmed by chroniclers' records. You find this hard to believe because you have been fooled by historians all your life and the media has programmed you to disregard such warnings. Please do not judge this hastily, but examine the evidence yourself. All information can be found at reset676.com Please read and warn others.

[Lunesoleil]

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Fifth Generation War & Psyops ~ Robert Malone
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[thepainterdoug]

hi /
I have gone to the site you posted reset676.com I assume this is your site?. there is a good deal of work and time put into this. I dont know what will be but I would not deny or be surprised by this scenario playing out to a varying extent. We are already seeing it .
I personally feel changes in our sun and our magnetic poles will be in play.

[Matthew]

To understand current events, you must first learn the history.

The world's biggest secret is that there have been tremendous global disasters in the past that decimated populations and caused the collapse of empires. Chronicles from the 14th and 6th centuries describe events as if from a disaster movie.

They write of:

"an extraordinary earthquake over the whole world"
"poisonous earthy exhalation"
"fire falling from the sky for 16 days"
"falling stars" (meteorites)
"the sun became dark for 18 months"
"hailstones of incredible size"
"lightnings that killed thousands of men and animals"
droughts and torrential rains destroying crops and causing famines so great that people resorted to cannibalism
and "a pestilence which spread over almost the entire world" and "swept away third part of the human race".


And all this was happening within just a few years. These global disasters were caused by the impact of the Sun's magnetic field, which suddenly increases once every several hundred years. When this happens, the Earth is struck by violent cataclysms.

Unfortunately, the next such catastrophe will occur in 2023-2025. Massive earthquakes will destroy entire countries. Asteroids will fall to the Earth. Powerful geomagnetic storms will cause long-term power outages. Sudden climate change all over the world will lead to widespread famine. Governments are afraid of a public panic and an uprising.


They are going to instigate a world war to keep themselves in power through terror. They will allow a deadly pandemic to spread that will kill a few billion people. The media, both mainstream and alternative, will say that this is a man-made crisis.
They will say that the disease is caused by radiation or a virus from a bio lab. They want you not to find out what the disease is and how to cure it.
Earthquakes and climate change will be explained by HAARP.
They will say the asteroids are nuclear bombs, and the power outage is due to a cyber attack or EMP. Do not believe it. Similar disasters have happened in the past.


This is not just another conspiracy theory, but a cycle of global disasters confirmed by chroniclers' records. You find this hard to believe because you have been fooled by historians all your life and the media has programmed you to disregard such warnings. Please do not judge this hastily, but examine the evidence yourself. All information can be found at reset676.com Please read and warn others.

Hi! Thank you for sharing your thoughts, it aligns with my way of thinking. Please forgive me for the re-formatting 🙏, I hope that's ok, I just wanted to ponder over the bullet points :thumbsup:

That the natural disaster cycle has been obfuscated in history and covered up, (my go-to here is Suspicious0bserver), and it doesn't sit well. If we had the truth then humanity could possibly work together to deal with this catastrophe, but instead of that we get the worst of humanity and a psychopathic solution starring our horror, surprise and suffering.

The Anglo Saxon mission whistleblower goes into more detail, with its premise being the powers that be will exploit the disaster aftermath arranging themselves to be the powers that will be, so that they can control the world from the outset as we re-build from the rubble.

That work seems to be underway, starting with "China will catch a cold" straight from the Anglo Saxon mission whistleblower, although fifteen years ago or so when the Anglo Saxon mission was revealed to Project Camelot, they listed a very oddly specific set of steps, and I wonder if they have adapted those steps since then? But either way the Anglo Saxon mission is a spooky match against current events we see happening.

Thanks again for your thoughts! :thumbsup: :Avalon:

[Lunesoleil]

https://lunesoleil23.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/tzolkin-et-les-planetes.jpg



Please do not judge this hastily, but examine the evidence yourself. All information can be found at reset676.com Please read and warn others.

I went to see reset676.com, which makes me think that you have not studied the cycles of Mayan astrology?, which does not stop at the cycle of 52 X 13 = 673
The Mayan calendar is a fractal and composed of an infinite cycle.
The cycle of 52, days, 52 months, 52 years, 52 centuries ect is also in the Mayan Calendar a castle of 5 cycles of 52 days forming the cycle of 260 days of the Tzolkin Maya...
There are many other cycles that you don't name...
52 years is the cycle of Chiron the wounded centaur in astrology and that we are today in its phase 12 since its discovery in 1977...
The number 13 in the Mayan calendar is equivalent to 13 days, 13 lunations, 13 years, 130 years, 13 centuries, etc.

Between Mayan calendar and astrology (https://lunesoleil23-wordpress-com.translate.goog/2021/11/22/entre-calendrier-maya-et-lastrologie/?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US)

[Bill Ryan]

To understand current events, you must first learn the history. The world's biggest secret is that there have been tremendous global disasters in the past that decimated populations and caused the collapse of empires. Chronicles from the 14th and 6th centuries describe events as if from a disaster movie. They write of "an extraordinary earthquake over the whole world", "poisonous earthy exhalation", "fire falling from the sky for 16 days", "falling stars" (meteorites), "the sun became dark for 18 months", "hailstones of incredible size", "lightnings that killed thousands of men and animals", droughts and torrential rains destroying crops and causing famines so great that people resorted to cannibalism, and "a pestilence which spread over almost the entire world" and "swept away third part of the human race". And all this was happening within just a few years. These global disasters were caused by the impact of the Sun's magnetic field, which suddenly increases once every several hundred years. When this happens, the Earth is struck by violent cataclysms. Unfortunately, the next such catastrophe will occur in 2023-2025. Massive earthquakes will destroy entire countries. Asteroids will fall to the Earth. Powerful geomagnetic storms will cause long-term power outages. Sudden climate change all over the world will lead to widespread famine. Governments are afraid of a public panic and an uprising. They are going to instigate a world war to keep themselves in power through terror. They will allow a deadly pandemic to spread that will kill a few billion people. The media, both mainstream and alternative, will say that this is a man-made crisis. They will say that the disease is caused by radiation or a virus from a bio lab. They want you not to find out what the disease is and how to cure it. Earthquakes and climate change will be explained by HAARP. They will say the asteroids are nuclear bombs, and the power outage is due to a cyber attack or EMP. Do not believe it. Similar disasters have happened in the past. This is not just another conspiracy theory, but a cycle of global disasters confirmed by chroniclers' records. You find this hard to believe because you have been fooled by historians all your life and the media has programmed you to disregard such warnings. Please do not judge this hastily, but examine the evidence yourself. All information can be found at reset676.com Please read and warn others.Many thanks, and yes, I think we may have a 'perfect storm' approaching (and a very big one, too).

There are many who are warning very seriously of the possibility of imminent natural disasters: David Dubyne from Adapt 2030 is one (his YouTube channel is here (https://www.youtube.com/@Adapt2030/videos)), also Ben Davidson from Suspicious 0bservers, his YouTube channel here (https://www.youtube.com/@Suspicious0bservers/videos), with a major ongoing supportive Avalon thread here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages).

I posted a couple months ago that I felt sure there was no risk of the Ukraine war going nuclear. I have to confess, as I view all this now — with the US fervidly intent on escalating the conflict apparently endlessly — I'm not nearly so certain at all. I can see many ways that this could easily spiral way out of any human control.

It's militarily impossible for Russia to 'lose' the war in Ukraine. The steadily increasing danger is that with this inevitability becoming apparent for all to see, considering the US neocons' pathological determination to destroy Russia by any means possible, they may actually do something quite insane which would trigger a major Russian response, as per their well-publicized and clearly-stated nuclear doctrine.

In the event of a nuclear exchange, as best I can see the US would lose. After a devastating exchange, but far more devastating for the US, the US would surrender. I know that many analysts have stated that a nuclear war is unwinnable, but Russia has a genuine strategic advantage now.

Their missiles are modernized, technically superior, and greater in number, and their missile defense is the best in the world. The uniformed militaries of both sides know this. But this doesn't deter against the US neocon politicians, if the Pentagon's strong opinion can be overridden, taking what would be suicidal action — the geopolitical analog of a suicide bomber. I do now think this is possible.

:flower:

[rgray222]

Ever since man has been able to communicate there have been doomsday prophecies. Sometimes people that are espousing and embracing such an event are compelling and convincing. Certainly coming on the heels of a worldwide pandemic (real or perceived makes no difference) and in the day and age of climate change it is pretty easy to persuade people that something is coming down the road squarely aimed at mankind.

I have been to your website and read quite a few pages in an effort to understand how earthquakes, geomagnetic storms, asteroids, pandemics, etc would begin. I did not have the time to pour through your extensive material but do you believe this is a religious event or just something that is going to occur through natural evolution?
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/end-near-vector-illustration-260nw-1069554986.jpg


After careful research on this subject, I come to the conclusion that the end of the world (as we know it) will occur as early as in 2023!
reset676.com
I am not trying to make light of this I am just trying to understand.

[Open Minded Dude]

I admit I do not believe it.

Too many doomsday predictions, prophecies and forecasts have passed over the years, just think about all what was about to happen 2012.

Yes, disasters on a grand scale always happen and will, but NOT the end of the world.

Sorry, not buying it.

[Ben]

To understand current events, you must first learn the history. The world's biggest secret is that there have been tremendous global disasters in the past that decimated populations and caused the collapse of empires. Chronicles from the 14th and 6th centuries describe events as if from a disaster movie. They write of "an extraordinary earthquake over the whole world", "poisonous earthy exhalation", "fire falling from the sky for 16 days", "falling stars" (meteorites), "the sun became dark for 18 months", "hailstones of incredible size", "lightnings that killed thousands of men and animals", droughts and torrential rains destroying crops and causing famines so great that people resorted to cannibalism, and "a pestilence which spread over almost the entire world" and "swept away third part of the human race". And all this was happening within just a few years. These global disasters were caused by the impact of the Sun's magnetic field, which suddenly increases once every several hundred years. When this happens, the Earth is struck by violent cataclysms. Unfortunately, the next such catastrophe will occur in 2023-2025. Massive earthquakes will destroy entire countries. Asteroids will fall to the Earth. Powerful geomagnetic storms will cause long-term power outages. Sudden climate change all over the world will lead to widespread famine. Governments are afraid of a public panic and an uprising. They are going to instigate a world war to keep themselves in power through terror. They will allow a deadly pandemic to spread that will kill a few billion people. The media, both mainstream and alternative, will say that this is a man-made crisis. They will say that the disease is caused by radiation or a virus from a bio lab. They want you not to find out what the disease is and how to cure it. Earthquakes and climate change will be explained by HAARP. They will say the asteroids are nuclear bombs, and the power outage is due to a cyber attack or EMP. Do not believe it. Similar disasters have happened in the past. This is not just another conspiracy theory, but a cycle of global disasters confirmed by chroniclers' records. You find this hard to believe because you have been fooled by historians all your life and the media has programmed you to disregard such warnings. Please do not judge this hastily, but examine the evidence yourself. All information can be found at reset676.com Please read and warn others.

Nope, it's by no means for sure at all. We are in a reality of infinite possibilities where absolutely nothing is set in stone, and so any prophesies regarding catastrophe and the end of the world are, at best, fallible hypothesies based on alleged historical events and patterns, and at worst, they are actually increasing the chances of catastrophic events happening due to focusing peoples attention on that possibility, and creating a lot of fear, which is a wholly destructive energy in itself.

WE are the true creators of our own reality, and we really do have the power to prevent bad things happening, by keeping our frequencies high and not getting stuck in the ways of reacting to everything as if it's out of our control, which is basically a manefistaion of a slave mentality.

It's always a good idea to be aware of world events unfolding, and to plan accordingly if one sees fit, but to act as harbingers of certain doom seems grossly irresponsible.

[Ben]

To understand current events, you must first learn the history. The world's biggest secret is that there have been tremendous global disasters in the past that decimated populations and caused the collapse of empires. Chronicles from the 14th and 6th centuries describe events as if from a disaster movie. They write of "an extraordinary earthquake over the whole world", "poisonous earthy exhalation", "fire falling from the sky for 16 days", "falling stars" (meteorites), "the sun became dark for 18 months", "hailstones of incredible size", "lightnings that killed thousands of men and animals", droughts and torrential rains destroying crops and causing famines so great that people resorted to cannibalism, and "a pestilence which spread over almost the entire world" and "swept away third part of the human race". And all this was happening within just a few years. These global disasters were caused by the impact of the Sun's magnetic field, which suddenly increases once every several hundred years. When this happens, the Earth is struck by violent cataclysms. Unfortunately, the next such catastrophe will occur in 2023-2025. Massive earthquakes will destroy entire countries. Asteroids will fall to the Earth. Powerful geomagnetic storms will cause long-term power outages. Sudden climate change all over the world will lead to widespread famine. Governments are afraid of a public panic and an uprising. They are going to instigate a world war to keep themselves in power through terror. They will allow a deadly pandemic to spread that will kill a few billion people. The media, both mainstream and alternative, will say that this is a man-made crisis. They will say that the disease is caused by radiation or a virus from a bio lab. They want you not to find out what the disease is and how to cure it. Earthquakes and climate change will be explained by HAARP. They will say the asteroids are nuclear bombs, and the power outage is due to a cyber attack or EMP. Do not believe it. Similar disasters have happened in the past. This is not just another conspiracy theory, but a cycle of global disasters confirmed by chroniclers' records. You find this hard to believe because you have been fooled by historians all your life and the media has programmed you to disregard such warnings. Please do not judge this hastily, but examine the evidence yourself. All information can be found at reset676.com Please read and warn others.Many thanks, and yes, I think we may have a 'perfect storm' approaching (and a very big one, too).

There are many who are warning very seriously of the possibility of imminent natural disasters: David Dubyne from Adapt 2030 is one (his YouTube channel is here (https://www.youtube.com/@Adapt2030/videos)), also Ben Davidson from Suspicious 0bservers, his YouTube channel here (https://www.youtube.com/@Suspicious0bservers/videos), with a major ongoing supportive Avalon thread here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages).

I posted a couple months ago that I felt sure there was no risk of the Ukraine war going nuclear. I have to confess, as I view all this now — with the US fervidly intent on escalating the conflict apparently endlessly — I'm not nearly so certain at all. I can see many ways that this could easily spiral way out of any human control.

It's militarily impossible for Russia to 'lose' the war in Ukraine. The steadily increasing danger is that with this inevitability becoming apparent for all to see, considering the US neocons' pathological determination to destroy Russia by any means possible, they may actually do something quite insane which would trigger a major Russian response, as per their well-publicized and clearly-stated nuclear doctrine.

In the event of a nuclear exchange, as best I can see the US would lose. After a devastating exchange, but far more devastating for the US, the US would surrender. I know that many analysts have stated that a nuclear war is unwinnable, but Russia has a genuine strategic advantage now.

Their missiles are modernized, technically superior, and greater in number, and their missile defense is the best in the world. The uniformed militaries of both sides know this. But this doesn't deter against the US neocon politicians, if the Pentagon's strong opinion can be overridden, taking what would be suicidal action — the geopolitical analog of a suicide bomber. I do now think this is possible.

:flower:

With all due respect Bill, the evocative language you use here makes it seem as though you're trying to bait a nuclear war into existence.

[Wind]

The end has always been near for people. You won't get out of this life alive so it's best to enjoy it and not fear what may come.

Are you going to contribute your energy and focus to a future scenario which is fearful or optimistic? Think about this deeply.

[thepainterdoug]

Wind, Well said, and something I am always present to

[wondering]

I personally feel dismayed that we have another thread predicting virtually unavoidable doom and gloom. Without listing them, I recall several threads of this nature already on PA. I know it is my option to read them or not, but I believe the postings themselves carry an energy that is not in our best interest. I needed to say this, although not knowing TheEndIsNear I am assuming good intentions. I strongly disagree that it is "for sure".
Wind, I just read your post on this thread, and I thank you for your reminder.

[Isserley]

I personally feel dismayed that we have another thread predicting virtually unavoidable doom and gloom. Without listing them, I recall several threads of this nature already on PA. I know it is my option to read them or not, but I believe the postings themselves carry an energy that is not in our best interest. I needed to say this, although not knowing TheEndIsNear I am assuming good intentions. I strongly disagree that it is "for sure".
Wind, I just read your post on this thread, and I thank you for your reminder.

I was annoyed by this threads title (thats for sure!) I agree with you wondering 100% and I have nothing to add except this ->

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[pyrangello]

I was a campaign manager one time for a guy running for congress as an independent, one of the radio announcers we were doing an interview with said a statement that was packed full of fear and panic. I'll never forget what my candidate said to him live on the air " You need to settle down , fears really got ahold of you buddy" . :) . Live your life , fear is only a temporary bridge to full time anxiety. Knock fear off your shoulder and let that bridge fall in the river.

[Sérénité]

. All information can be found at reset676.com Please read and warn others.

Hi Marek
I’ve read what you’ve suggested, but what are we warning others about, as you make it all sound pretty much like a done deal…?

Do we have to join your forum to find out more on how to survive this or will you discuss that further here?

[Mari]

I simply don't believe in a nuclear doomsday scenario. We were on that timeline, but not now.
I've cut and pasted a reply of mine (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118075-Surviving-a-nuclear-war&p=1487474&viewfull=1#post1487474) from from a similar thread from last year, called Surviving a nuclear war (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118075-Surviving-a-nuclear-war).
I most definitely still hold that view.


"It's not my intention to derail this thread (apologies Bill) 😉 I have a knee-jerk reaction to anything 'nuclear' the msm puts out, having lived through and been scared out of my wits by the nuclear fear propaganda churned out by the UK Home Office (they really went for it!) in the late 70s in the UK.

But, as I stated in a previous post somewhere, I simply don't believe a nuclear attack would be 'allowed'. Conventional war yes, but not this. There has been a lot of evidence, eyewitness testimony etc, from the military, those who saw interdimensional/spacecraft hover over buildings where warheads were kept and directed an energy beam (of sorts) over the building, disabling the weapons inside.

This planet is not ours to mess around with to that extent, because what happens here affects the evolution, not to mention countless lives of other civilizations in the universe. The Japan nukes were 'allowed' so that we could see and know the consequences of going down that road, I believe. These are dark times, but I do know that humankind is on an ascension path that will eventually free us from the dark controllers.

What we will be seeing is a mega load of 'nuclear' fearmongering from msm et al, to keep us in a continual state of fear....Ukraine is the new covid.

So no, I'm not burying my head in the sand by refusing to entertain nuclear survival techniques, its just that I have a very strong trust in the Divine....and it's this Divine that well and truly has our backs and will not allow this planet to die."



Thank you for the links, Bill 😀

[wondering]

Mari, Yes, yes, yes! So well put. Agree completely. ✌️❤️

[Bill Ryan]

With all due respect Bill, the evocative language you use here makes it seem as though you're trying to bait a nuclear war into existence.I don't have those magical powers! :P And neither would I ever want such a thing to happen. I merely suspect right now that it may no longer be impossible.

[Matthew]

Many people have tried to warn about such things. By today's standards Noah was a 'conspiracy theorist' (thanks Suspicious0bservers T-shirt).

But I like this one best from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a parody of life the universe and everything.

In this world the dolphins started a 'Save the Human' campaign and have been trying to warn us ever since :bigsmile:

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I joke but I also avidly follow bad-news prophecies. But it helps to laugh and I'm not talking hysterically.

[helium]

In the event of a nuclear exchange, as best I can see the US would lose. After a devastating exchange, but far more devastating for the US, the US would surrender.

:flower:

I doubt there will be anything left of the US to surrender. Any bunker inhabitants would not be in a position to surrender. The bunkered military that remained would not be ‘the US’ but would be the handmaidens of whatever so-called deep-state power brokers who wish to maintain control over a land that’s utterly wasted and basically uninhabitable. I say this because I’m sure that when one nuke flies, all nukes will fly. The US is the PRIME target.

There are too many ICBM test launches occurring within recent days to ignore. Green lasers from satellites, balloons shot down, rhetoric emanating from all political orifices? My conclusion is that the time has come and I’m acting accordingly. Personally, I feel really bad for the Russian people in particular. I want to feel bad for the Chinese population but it’s a struggle for me. I can’t feel bad about what will happen to the US population because they’ve had every opportunity to rise up and stop the PTB and have failed, utterly.

I agree in essence with Ben:




We are in a reality of infinite possibilities where absolutely nothing is set in stone, and so any prophesies regarding catastrophe and the end of the world are, at best, fallible hypothesies based on alleged historical events and patterns, and at worst, they are actually increasing the chances of catastrophic events happening due to focusing peoples attention on that possibility, and creating a lot of fear, which is a wholly destructive energy in itself.



And Wind:



Are you going to contribute your energy and focus to a future scenario which is fearful or optimistic? Think about this deeply.



While spending most of my time paying close attention to anything and everything that will provide insight into which direction this planet will take, and the future does look like doom, it seems obvious that all of the clearly manufactured chaos occurring right now is actually a manifestation of evolutionary pressures in play.

Change MUST occur. It’s like our strike/slip earthquake fault lines that will inevitably slip and the results are apparent all across the internet right now, focused on Turkey.

The problem that I see is that this go-round of human ‘civilization’ (yes, it would be a good idea Mr. Ghandi) has moved too far, too fast in terms of technical revolutions. Social structures need to evolve as well. We all know that. Our societies require a foundation that has yet been articulated and formed. Spiritual? Religious? Scientific? The real revolution is in the formation of fundamentals that social structures require to deal effectively with technical ‘advances.’ That revolution is happening. It may not be front page news, but it’s happening.

Today I spent a couple hours in concentrated thought to imagine what kind of world that I’d agree to live in. I certainly do not wish to live in THIS particular world right now. I’ve done this ‘world-building’ thought experiment a million times. I’ve been obsessed with world building thought experiments for as long as I can recall. So I have a kind of conceptual library of ideas to choose from, mix and match, edit, and apply. The particulars aren’t important for this post.

What were my conclusions this time around? Pretty much the same as many times before, relatively small decentralized communities that specialize in one form or another to provide something that the entire planet requires, the best of transportation and communications to link these communities, a thriving orbital community of habitats that support the planet with manufactured goods derived from off-planet raw materials, cleanup of orbital debris as well as ocean habitats, free travel between all communities so that everyone coming into this world via womb have opportunity to choose their own path, planetary-wide councils of elders to manage and govern when necessary, infrastructure immune to EMP’s and reliable asteroid strike protection. These are all obvious conclusions. Add to them communities dedicated to education. How about ‘birthing’ communities dedicated to child rearing that someday might just be able to identify returning personalities after their previous body has been discarded? I’ll leave the rest up to you. But one thing that’s a must are dedicated, enlightened professionals who can assist every new child with lifepath counseling if necessary.

And the very last thought that came to mind is that maybe I should begin a thread here on PA to pose the idea of an overall goal for humanity residing on/near Earth to become a role model for the galactic neighborhood. I’m assuming here that not all of humanity is currently residing on Earth. As yet we don’t know enough to precisely define who or what humanity is. We literally may not be alone in the universe, as a distinct species. However, if the situation we find ourselves in right now is somehow universal in the universe, then we have a golden opportunity to respond to the evolutionary pressures we face today and to master them for the good of all life in our galaxy/dimension or beyond. We can become a prime example of how ‘life will find a way.’ We can become galactic role models.

Hmm. The next thought that came to mind is that all we need to do is to make an effort to reach this goal for Earth-based humanity and disclosure will no longer be a topic of discussion. It will be a reality.

Then I had to end my reverie. Would I start that thread? Well, no. I have doubts that it would go anywhere at all. Although I did consider the idea that if such a conversation blossomed on this forum that perhaps sometime in the (maybe far-flung) future there might be an historian who would dig and dig and finally discover that the roots of their future civilization could be traced right back here to Project Avalon.

Then I shook off the delusions.

Funny (ironic) thing is, current technical expertise and current available resources would be enough to accomplish such a planetary near-Earth civilization. SpaceX has given us remarkable tools that can be refined when necessary. Environmental science provides a good start to bringing all of life on the planet back into a thriving state rather than a rapidly declining state. AI itself is on the very brink of bringing all of our expertise into singular focus for best-case application. What’s missing is a cohesive social structure to make it all happen. What’s missing is the foundation for such a structure. So instead of posing the possibility that we might set a goal to become galactic role models I propose that we dig in and hash out the fundamentals necessary to support thriving societies.

Build a world, PA. Quit whining about what are mere evolutionary pressures and respond to them in kind. I know, easier said than done. Or is it?

Oh, by the way, thanks for all the fish! And don’t come looking for us until you get your act together. We’re mentoring a new batch of hominids and their fish are tastier than yours ever were.

[Phoenix1304]

Disasters are ongoing thanks to hind feet in high places, weather wars, bio weapons, woke agendas and the totalitarian tiptoe. Mother Earth needs a thorough cleansing as does humanity, I continue to hold the intention that evil will be exposed and deposed as do so many ‘light workers’, it is happening too. But…

Whether we will transcend into an egalitarian, sane civilisation led by humans with integrity and a genuine desire to improve the lot of all sentient beings and the planet itself, is open to question as undoubtedly this world of duality is a school for us all and maybe the utopia is only available to those advanced souls who earn a place in it.

Meanwhile, this recent tweet from Uri Geller could be seen as encouraging, though he has been in bed with the agencies for decades so in typical dual fashion, could be part of the blue beam agenda or a sign that good ETs will not allow a nuclear Armageddon.

Whatever, don’t sweat it friends, watch the circuses with peaceful detachment because when all is said and done, we will find ourselves back where we started, maybe a little wiser.


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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

"It's not my intention to derail this thread (apologies Bill) 😉 I have a knee-jerk reaction to anything 'nuclear' the msm puts out, having lived through and been scared out of my wits by the nuclear fear propaganda churned out by the UK Home Office (they really went for it!) in the late 70s in the UK.

But, as I stated in a previous post somewhere, I simply don't believe a nuclear attack would be 'allowed'. Conventional war yes, but not this. There has been a lot of evidence, eyewitness testimony etc, from the military, those who saw interdimensional/spacecraft hover over buildings where warheads were kept and directed an energy beam (of sorts) over the building, disabling the weapons inside.

This planet is not ours to mess around with to that extent, because what happens here affects the evolution, not to mention countless lives of other civilizations in the universe. The Japan nukes were 'allowed' so that we could see and know the consequences of going down that road, I believe. These are dark times, but I do know that humankind is on an ascension path that will eventually free us from the dark controllers.

What we will be seeing is a mega load of 'nuclear' fearmongering from msm et al, to keep us in a continual state of fear....Ukraine is the new covid.

So no, I'm not burying my head in the sand by refusing to entertain nuclear survival techniques, its just that I have a very strong trust in the Divine....and it's this Divine that well and truly has our backs and will not allow this planet to die."

Well said and I totally agree. I don't think that scenario would be allowed. We did not Create the world, so it is not for US to destroy. Also, the negative effects of a nuclear war would propagate far beyond this planet and this dimension.

Even if you don't believe in some higher force forbidding it, there is another one in play, and that's us:



We are heading towards destroying this planet and there is not anything any one can do about it.

I believe we have done something about it. We create our realities; as a species we have collectively 'uncreated' the potential of a nuclear war already, because if it could happen, it surely would have happened years ago. I do not believe there will be a nuclear war. By panicking and running you offer your consent to this potential. Have no fear. Put a big red ‘X’ through it and continue to live your life in peace.

Fear is the mind killer.

Anyway,

It's a waste - and a grave misuse - of time worrying about nuclear war, and/or prepping for it. If you're convinced the plane is doomed, and about to enter a super-sonic vertical dive, the 'brace position' is not going to help.

I simply do not believe in an all-out nuclear apocalypse. Even if I was wrong, so what? I'd much rather be wrong having lived my life right up to the end without a single thought worrying about it, than be right and live that same time miserable and afraid.

One day, yes, a huge cataclysmic (and likely natural) event will hit the planet and wipe us out. Maybe we're fated for a slow destruction, like something cyclical to do with the environment or climate. In either case it will probably be decided by factors entirely unconnected to us. Humanity is so wrapped up in itself that it thinks IT is the custodian of the Earth; the be all and end all of creation. It isn't - WE aren't. In the Earth's long life we've been around for merely a blink of an eye, one beat of the planet's heart. Less than that. There have been advanced civilizations on the Earth before this one, and there will be again after we've gone. Humanity rises and falls, rises and falls again. And it seems to be the Earth who brings about our destruction each time. It's the way of things, and maybe it will continue to be the way until we get our sh!t together.

*

(There are some who say, perhaps, that the End of this civilization wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing)

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[mountain_jim]

perhaps echoing some of Mark's post above

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a comment there (many of the comments seem relevant)




Plutot Crever
2 years ago (edited)
For those here who care, this video shows a kid playing in his house that was torn apart by a tornado digging in the mess of random stuff all over the place making some sense of it and picking up what he might keep. He kept the dog and his skateboard. He's young, soon to be a man and full of hope and he will rebuild his future. This song isn't depressing and isn't about the end of the world. Its about change. The lyrics are a mess of random stuff that Humanity must make sense of, pick up what it might keep and go forward.

[Frankie Pancakes]

I read from the beginning to the period of the black death, then jumped to the present time. And I see this coming to fruition.
The earthquake in Turkey most recently and Syria. There have been daily reports of intense rain flooding throughout the world over the past year. There have been areas of extended drought in other areas. Have not seen any real signs of pestilence at least in my news feeds but there is yet time for that.
My 2 cents is that anything viral or bacterial can be treated with sodium dichlorite solution (MMS). It would be advisable for all to have the makings on hand.
Other than that I hope the best for the world.

[Lunesoleil]

, its just that I have a very strong trust in the Divine....and it's this Divine that well and truly has our backs and will not allow this planet to die.

Excuse me, it is not a question of belief in the divine. Which would mean those who died in the earthquake in Turkey and Syria did not believe in God.
It was thousands who sacrificed their lives to save the lives of others? Is this the price to pay to avoid World War III?
This tragedy was not in Ukraine which has been in conflict since 2014, chosen date 2022, what is God doing???, the power of belief would not be anything other than the divine?, are we not we even divine energy?

[Mari]

"It's not my intention to derail this thread (apologies Bill) 😉 I have a knee-jerk reaction to anything 'nuclear' the msm puts out, having lived through and been scared out of my wits by the nuclear fear propaganda churned out by the UK Home Office (they really went for it!) in the late 70s in the UK.

But, as I stated in a previous post somewhere, I simply don't believe a nuclear attack would be 'allowed'. Conventional war yes, but not this. There has been a lot of evidence, eyewitness testimony etc, from the military, those who saw interdimensional/spacecraft hover over buildings where warheads were kept and directed an energy beam (of sorts) over the building, disabling the weapons inside.

This planet is not ours to mess around with to that extent, because what happens here affects the evolution, not to mention countless lives of other civilizations in the universe. The Japan nukes were 'allowed' so that we could see and know the consequences of going down that road, I believe. These are dark times, but I do know that humankind is on an ascension path that will eventually free us from the dark controllers.

What we will be seeing is a mega load of 'nuclear' fearmongering from msm et al, to keep us in a continual state of fear....Ukraine is the new covid.

So no, I'm not burying my head in the sand by refusing to entertain nuclear survival techniques, its just that I have a very strong trust in the Divine....and it's this Divine that well and truly has our backs and will not allow this planet to die."

Well said and I totally agree. I don't think that scenario would be allowed. We did not Create the world, so it is not for US to destroy. Also, the negative effects of a nuclear war would propagate far beyond this planet and this dimension.

Even if you don't believe in some higher force forbidding it, there is another one in play, and that's us:



We are heading towards destroying this planet and there is not anything any one can do about it.

I believe we have done something about it. We create our realities; as a species we have collectively 'uncreated' the potential of a nuclear war already, because if it could happen, it surely would have happened years ago. I do not believe there will be a nuclear war. By panicking and running you offer your consent to this potential. Have no fear. Put a big red ‘X’ through it and continue to live your life in peace.

Fear is the mind killer.

Anyway,

It's a waste - and a grave misuse - of time worrying about nuclear war, and/or prepping for it. If you're convinced the plane is doomed, and about to enter a super-sonic vertical dive, the 'brace position' is not going to help.

I simply do not believe in an all-out nuclear apocalypse. Even if I was wrong, so what? I'd much rather be wrong having lived my life right up to the end without a single thought worrying about it, than be right and live that same time miserable and afraid.

One day, yes, a huge cataclysmic (and likely natural) event will hit the planet and wipe us out. Maybe we're fated for a slow destruction, like something cyclical to do with the environment or climate. In either case it will probably be decided by factors entirely unconnected to us. Humanity is so wrapped up in itself that it thinks IT is the custodian of the Earth; the be all and end all of creation. It isn't - WE aren't. In the Earth's long life we've been around for merely a blink of an eye, one beat of the planet's heart. Less than that. There have been advanced civilizations on the Earth before this one, and there will be again after we've gone. Humanity rises and falls, rises and falls again. And it seems to be the Earth who brings about our destruction each time. It's the way of things, and maybe it will continue to be the way until we get our sh!t together.

*

(There are some who say, perhaps, that the End of this civilization wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing)

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=50419&d=1676124669&thumb=1



Hahaha, phones at the ready. Well said, totally agree. Like you mentioned, we were on that total-destruction timeline, but humanity's consciousness has raised itself to such a degree that nuclear war will not manifest. Neither do I think that Earth herself will throw a gigantic wobbly that will doom us to extinction (no matter the cretinous aspects of the human race) But there will be a lot of major upheavals - a 'cleansing', if you use spiritual terms, to bring things back into balance.

[CurEus]

"Science" now is beginning to indicate this is cyclical and unavoidable...
Ancient Astronomers warn of the same
"Prophesies" predicts this...

The mystery schools purportedly know this and albeit mostly corrupted have prepared for this eventuality to further their own ends.

Many of us "feel" an inherent sense of this and have felt this way for quite a while, it led me to Project Avalon and here.

At first I was filled with anxiety and dread but now am at peace with the reality an epic series of global events, completely out of my control will likely occur and there are many who seek advantage in this. These days I experience a sense of ennui...I am not particularly bothered by what is to come for good or ill. I have no delusions I will be "raptured" away or beamed aboard some orbiting vessel and whisked away to safety. Irregardless of global catastrophe I also note even without it the world is moving and shifting to a VERY dark place BUT am also aware that this too is cyclical and probably the last vestigies of energy left to enemies of humanity before, as with every cycle, a new age is upon us. One that is positive...eventually.

I still oppose our slide into despotism and fascism, reject evil and educate where I can but......I am not afraid.

[SilentFeathers]

The title of this thread? A global disaster is coming in 2023 (that's for sure)! Well, we haven't got through with the last global disaster, called Covid, which in some weird way is just a different version of the war on terror. (which is another global disaster).
We are just going through different versions of the same types of things that people have been going through over and over again for thousands of years, just on a larger scale now.
Humanity has reached the ability to quickly create global disasters, but even a limited nuclear exchange would seem rather small compared to what happened around 12,000 years ago.
Reality, Universal Law....Times of calm and times of chaos. Humanity must be due for chaos because it seems some are trying to cause it rather than waiting for nature's cycle of chaos to happen. Either way, chaos will eventually happen one way or another, it's just the reality in which we exist in.

[palehorse]

Earth cleanse itself from time to time, Gaia is a conscious body as is any other planet out there it knows when and how and DO NOT need permission of humans or aliens to act. Humans or aliens are not in control of such a thing. period. Whatever will happen, then will happen, and there is absolutely nothing we humans or aliens (of course including the super elite bastards) can do to stop it. I am more concerned about what mother nature would do than anything else.

and regarding the nuclear scary **** show, there is a threat of course but it is part of the military strategy of the countries to scary each other because they use it as an ultimate threat, because beyond that is all gonna and obviously the war would be over, as a large portion of humans. Unless the human race want to destroy itself I don't think there will be a single nuclear drop, maybe some dirty bomb, or something else like the one in Beirut.

There is a chance of soft disclosure too, I can feel how the mood of the country I am living on changed so drastically in the last few days, when people on social platforms started sharing all sort of Alien stuffs after what some people saw in the sky in Phuket. I think we may be seeing it this year, and that alone would mean more control over the population, they already got all the tools working against us, they don't need a nuclear fall out, that would not be control as I said, that would be death.

Nuclear fall out = Death
Soft alien disclosure = More Control (heading to a totalitarian regime)

[s7e6e]

, its just that I have a very strong trust in the Divine....and it's this Divine that well and truly has our backs and will not allow this planet to die.

Excuse me, it is not a question of belief in the divine. Which would mean those who died in the earthquake in Turkey and Syria did not believe in God.
It was thousands who sacrificed their lives to save the lives of others? Is this the price to pay to avoid World War III?
This tragedy was not in Ukraine which has been in conflict since 2014, chosen date 2022, what is God doing???, the power of belief would not be anything other than the divine?, are we not we even divine energy?

It's been said we can literally move mountains. Consciousness creates reality. It could be the reason why huge efforts are being made through mass media to steer our beliefs.

[Mari]

" It's been said we can literally move mountains. Consciousness creates reality. It could be the reason why huge efforts are being made through mass media to steer our beliefs."


100%. It's the reason why we have been/are being bombarded daily with death, doom, gloom, fear etc etc, by the media - the elite's grand 'Perception' tool, which steers us away from knowing what our full capabilities are. We are powerful beyond our current comprehension, and this knowledge has been withheld from us since birth, by an all-encompassing system which has so successfully kept us in our little 'perception' boxes. Fear is the ONLY weapon the elite's have ever had to control us, and our awakening to full knowledge (so, much less fear) is what they are terrified of.

They know of our increasing awareness; they are being cornered, so these days are the most 'dangerous' in terms of what they're going to impose on us. We really haven't seen anything yet, regarding the weaponry at their disposal, but the good news is that virtually everything they are trying/will do to us, is now being truly seen for what it it is by an ever-increasing awakening population.

Slightly off-topic here, I realise, but we do need an antidote to the fear-mongering that saturates the human psyche.

[Bruce G Charlton]

Some valuable perspectives here, that helped me to clarify things.

But we should take care not to bundle together things that ought to be kept apart.

Honestly to state a belief in the high probability of an imminent nuclear escalation, and that people (and other entities) in high places are actively working for this to happen, is something I would regard as part of our duty to recognize and expose evil motivations in the world. Honesty and the necessary discernment of evil, should not be confused with fear-mongering.

I also agree that this business should Not be allowed to lead to a state of obsessive fear, nor should our reaction be to 'prepare' to physically survive such an event. Our reaction should instead primarily be spiritual, as suggested above by several people.

And the proper spiritual response should itself have spiritual goals.

The war escalators do this stuff mainly because they intend that vast numbers of people will die *in fear, resentment and despair*. They will therefore be dying in the worst possible way considering what happens *after* death.

We probably cannot (as individuals) prevent people continuing to die in large numbers due to the deliberate will of world rulers. Therefore; I think what we are probably *meant* to do is to exert our-selves spiritually (by example and through personal relationships) - to ensure that When people die (and die they will - later if not sooner); they will die in hope, not despair; in love, not fear.

[Bill Ryan]

Honestly to state a belief in the high probability of an imminent nuclear escalation, and that people (and other entities) in high places are actively working for this to happen, is something I would regard as part of our duty to recognize and expose evil motivations in the world. Honesty and the necessary discernment of evil, should not be confused with fear-mongering. Bruce, Hi there, and many thanks. I entirely agree.

I don't know if you know this, but most Avalon members who've been here quite a while are aware that since you and I last saw one another I grew to become quite an experienced high-altitude mountaineer, with all that entails.

One of the aspects of that is to be attuned to all kinds of potential danger. Avalanches due to unstable snow conditions, potentially loose rock, approaching storms, possible equipment failures, communication problems, and a whole bunch of other variables.

If one has an optimistic fingers-crossed blind eye to all this, one may be asking for a great deal of trouble. You have to look at the objective risks straight on — and because of that, one is best positioned to deal with all possible outcomes.
(Robert Pirsig (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97688-Robert-Pirsig-author-of-Zen-and-the-Art-of-Motorcycle-Maintenance-has-passed) would have agreed: simply hoping that your motorcycle won't break down on a long cross-country trip isn't necessarily the wisest strategy. :) )
So it is with the dangers of a NATO/Russia conflict that might spiral way out of human control. Yesterday I posted a long analysis here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1542808) which concluded that the risk of a very serious and dangerous escalation could be something like 10%.

That might be about right. It's an estimate, of course (these things can't be calculated!), but those are good casino odds. However, anyone with professional corporate risk management experience knows that even a tiny risk of something extremely detrimental needs to be carefully considered and mitigated against if at all possible.

There's nothing we mortals can practically do about such events — including geophysical ones — but there are many Avalon threads about simple, sensible preparedness.

Growing your own food (or at least, knowing how to!), becoming at least a little more self-sufficient and braced for supply chain breakdowns, and so on. There's a whole section called Living Off The Grid (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?69-Living-Off-The-Grid) which discusses all that under a number of categories, and it has a lot of good practical information.

One doesn't have to go the whole hog and disconnect from everything tomorrow. But it may be quite smart to know how to, and to have at least some of the resources on hand. Then, as Pirsig would also have agreed, one is prepared for the ride whatever may happen, also knowing that it all might be extremely pleasant and totally uneventful.

:flower:

[Isserley]

... high-altitude mountaineer, with all that entails...

:flower:

Individual survival (whyle mountaineering) and surviving a global catastrophe are not comparable imho.

What will the family in its shelter do when their neighbors need water and they have a year's supply that they won't share?

The individualist nature of survival prepping is essentially a fantasy game, and likely to become one of the hazards when real disaster happens.

The inclusive community has the best chance of survival for everyone within it.




With all due respect Bill, the evocative language you use here makes it seem as though you're trying to bait a nuclear war into existence.I don't have those magical powers! :P And neither would I ever want such a thing to happen. I merely suspect right now that it may no longer be impossible.

To some extent we all have those magical powers.. It is our thinking pattern that is responsible for creating our destiny. Saying it out loud (writing) even more so.

[Bruce G Charlton]

Honestly to state a belief in the high probability of an imminent nuclear escalation, and that people (and other entities) in high places are actively working for this to happen, is something I would regard as part of our duty to recognize and expose evil motivations in the world. Honesty and the necessary discernment of evil, should not be confused with fear-mongering. Bruce, Hi there, and many thanks. I entirely agree.

I don't know if you know this, but most Avalon members who've been here quite a while are aware that since you and I last saw one another I grew to become quite an experienced high-altitude mountaineer, with all that entails.

One of the aspects of that is to be attuned to all kinds of potential danger. Avalanches due to unstable snow conditions, potentially loose rock, approaching storms, possible equipment failures, communication problems, and a whole bunch of other variables.

If one has an optimistic fingers-crossed blind eye to all this, one may be asking for a great deal of trouble. You have to look at the objective risks straight on — and because of that, one is best positioned to deal with all possible outcomes.
(Robert Pirsig (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97688-Robert-Pirsig-author-of-Zen-and-the-Art-of-Motorcycle-Maintenance-has-passed) would have agreed: simply hoping that your motorcycle won't break down on a long cross-country trip isn't necessarily the wisest strategy. :) )
So it is with the dangers of a NATO/Russia conflict that might spiral way out of human control. Yesterday I posted a long analysis here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1542808) which concluded that the risk of a very serious and dangerous escalation could be something like 10%.

That might be about right. It's an estimate, of course (these things can't be calculated!), but those are good casino odds. However, anyone with professional corporate risk management experience knows that even a tiny risk of something extremely detrimental needs to be carefully considered and mitigated against if at all possible.

There's nothing we mortals can practically do about such events — including geophysical ones — but there are many Avalon threads about simple, sensible preparedness.

Growing your own food (or at least, knowing how to!), becoming at least a little more self-sufficient and braced for supply chain breakdowns, and so on. There's a whole section called Living Off The Grid (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?69-Living-Off-The-Grid) which discusses all that under a number of categories, and it has a lot of good practical information.

One doesn't have to go the whole hog and disconnect from everything tomorrow. But it may be quite smart to know how to, and to have at least some of the resources on hand. Then, as Pirsig would also have agreed, one is prepared for the ride whatever may happen, also knowing that it all might be extremely pleasant and totally uneventful.

:flower:

Thanks Bill. I am somewhat aware of your activities in the past 45 years since I knew you (!)- including high altitude expeditions - from having watched some of your video interviews.

From the corner of the internet I have inhabited as a blogger over the past decade, I have become aware that the business of prepping can become a spiritually very negative thing in some people, with selfish motivations (even, in some writers, leading to a kind of gloating anticipation of how "I will be fine" when everybody else is suffering badly). And that the type of prepping is also very unrealistic in the context of the kind of *civilizational* collapse and breakdown of order that is being planned by some powerful groups.

(Indeed, I believe that civilizational collapse would be very difficult to avoid for long in the world we have; difficult for biological and economic - but especially for negative-spiritual reasons. But the point is; we are not even trying to Avoid it! By negative-spiritual - I mean the already implicit, but increasingly overt self-hatred and suicidal motivations of both leadership and many ordinary people; that are now mainstream (and officially encouraged) in The West.)

In a nutshell; we are (overall) sustained by The System, but The System is evil, self-destructive and unsustainable - and in addition The System has ideologically turned against itself and is destroying itself (by one part creating deliberate destruction and chaos in the other parts - and feeding off it, materially and by a spiritual vampirism).

So materially speaking on a global level, I am extremely pessimistic wrt the probabilities - even if someone stops those who are deliberately escalating towards full nuclear war!

As for disaster preparedness - I think it is very much a matter of the individual and the circumstances. We each have an unique destiny, and ought to be guided by that. I feel that - if sought in the right spirit - we can all receive specific personal guidance about what to do in our actual lives. But this guidance will Not usually be about trying to escape trouble, or maximizing the duration of personal survival in this mortal life.

Living in England; where so many people are so old, ill, dysfunctional (by world historical standards), and where value-inversion has created a society that increasingly seeks evil (but calls it Good) and seeks to corrupt or destroy Good (while labelling it evil); it seems likely that for many (but not all) people, 'disaster preparedness' would be mainly spiritual not physical; and about how to die well when the time is right, rather than to sustain life a bit longer.

[Bill Ryan]

An extract (the concluding two paragraphs) from Wade Frazier's post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&p=1543040#post1543040) on his thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet) a few minutes ago.


Hi:

It is time for a long-overdue Ukraine post, and the threat of nuclear war.

[ ... ]

Last year, the USA’s Director of National Intelligence testified (https://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/210-The-2022-Ukrainian-Situation/page3?p=3688&viewfull=1#post3688) that the likeliest scenario for Putin’s use of nuclear weapons was if the war in Ukraine went badly. If there is any good news on that score, it is that the war is going well for Russia. The USA’s plans to grind down Russia in Ukraine are not working, but the USA might get desperate and initiate a nuclear conflagration (https://consortiumnews.com/2023/01/30/chris-hedges-ukraine-the-war-that-went-wrong/), as the American Empire crumbles. Western elites are beginning to bail out (https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/ukraine-is-sinking-are-western-elites-bailing-out/) of a war that they planned for years (https://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-was-all-written-rand-corp-plan/5773288), in our latest imperial crime (https://www.globalresearch.ca/beyond-vietnam-ukraine/5804736), and we are a woke empire (https://consortiumnews.com/2023/02/06/chris-hedges-woke-imperialism/) now. But the anti-Russian propaganda in the USA has been dialed up to 11 (https://consortiumnews.com/2023/01/27/cn-editor-named-on-secret-disinfo-list/). The neo-McCarthyite PropOrNot operation (https://ahealedplanet.net/wikiprop.htm#propornot), run out of Ukraine (https://ahealedplanet.net/forum/threads/210-The-2022-Ukrainian-Situation?p=3365&viewfull=1#post3365), was only a warmup.

So, the question that I have is this: Will we avoid a nuclear war? The best way to avoid that would be a quick Russian victory. The longer it drags on, the likelier a nuclear war will be, and it will largely be on the USA’s head. Russia would have prevailed long ago, if the USA and its NATO puppets had not intervened. It still looks like Russia will prevail, although I just saw an estimate that it will take three years. One thing is for sure: the American government deserves no support on the Ukrainian matter, as it takes a blowtorch to the powder keg once again. One of these times, a nuclear war may be the outcome, which I hope that I do not live to see. Give me the Fifth Epoch (https://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#epochal5) instead. :)

Best,

Wade

[onawah]

This may not signify for anyone else in the context of this thread, but it may still prove useful in a general sense.

Alan Watts: On Being God – Being in the Way Podcast Ep. 6 – Hosted by Mark Watts
Be Here Now Network
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112,631 views Dec 26, 2022 Alan Watts - Being in the Way

(I'm not listening to this series in order, but randomly according to my intuition as to which one will speak to me most clearly at the time. But listening to them in order is probably a good idea too...This particular episode has been helpful to me in consideration of the issues raised in in this thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120556-A-global-disaster-is-coming-in-2023--that-s-for-sure--)

"In ‘On Being God,’ Alan shares on therapy, religion, mystical experiences, & Jesus, before playing the hilarious and light-shedding role of a clinical patient who realizes they’re God.

This series is brought to you by the Alan Watts Organization and Ram Dass’ Love Serve Remember Foundation. Visit https://Alanwatts.org for full talks from Alan Watts.

Mystical Experiences // Humanity & Nature // Psychiatry & Religion (0:00)
Jesus & The Great Heresy // Democracy in the Kingdom of Heaven // Karma & Responsibility (23:23)
On Being God: Alan Watts Clinical Experience (38:38)

'To know that you are God is another way of saying that you feel completely with this universe, you feel profoundly rooted in it and connected with it, you feel that the whole energy which expresses itself in the galaxies, is intimate. It is not something to which you are a stranger, but it is that with which you are intimately bound up, that in your seeing, your hearing, your talking, your thinking, your moving, you express that which it is that moves the sun and other stars.' – Alan Watts"

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[Delight]

This may be very interesting? It does seem that we are in a very dark moment on planet earth. We must shine our light even brighter.

DrTenpenny/25184

[Bill Ryan]

This might just possibly belong here. It's a 3-minute scene from near the beginning of the most excellent 1995 movie Crimson Tide. (https://www.google.com/url?esrc=s&q=&rct=j&sa=U&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Tide_(film)&ved=2ahUKEwjWh_TckpH9AhWzq4QIHfVLCD8QFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw2BI7_AcmNJinY7sEcF6j9E)

The theme of the film is a nuclear strike that's been ordered to be launched from a US submarine. The ship's captain (Gene Hackman, who deserved an Oscar), and the ship's Executive Officer (Denzel Washington), are two opposite personality types.

They become deadlocked in their own personal conflict, culminating in a mutiny. The argument is whether to launch their nukes or not when their instructions to do so become fragmented by an incomplete message that they're unable to verify or clarify.

I've watched the film numerous times. It's really all about the huge, inhuman load on very human individuals when they suddenly find themselves in a critical decision-making position.

Another scene, near the end of the film, is where Vossler, a hapless, sweating junior technician, is trying to repair a broken radio as the seconds to launch tick away. Washington's character tells him:
If we launch, and we're wrong, what's left of Russia is gonna launch at us. There will be a nuclear holocaust beyond imagination. So it's all about knowing, Mr Vossler. We have to know whether or not our order to launch has been recalled or not. The only way we're gonna know is if you fix that radio, you understand? If you do not get this radio up, a billion people are gonna die. Now it's all up to you. I know that's a ****ty deal, but you got it.
~~~

And a historical note which very few people know. A VERY similar situation occurred for real during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis when a Russian submarine was only prevented from launching its nuclear missiles by one Russian commander who refused to consent because there wasn't enough information to be certain of the true situation. See this fascinating Avalon thread:

Two men who saved the world (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111673-Two-men-who-saved-the-world)

The reason I've posted this here is because when it comes to the kind of unthinkable war that is possible now, key decisions are made by a tiny number of flawed and stressed humans who may not always get it right.

Crimson Tide: The true enemy is war itself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hur6LcyuTuU

[Delight]

Posting FYI. Starts 1:20:00


This may be very interesting? It does seem that we are in a very dark moment on planet earth. We must shine our light even brighter.


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[CurEus]

Bill, do you recall Putin Posthumously awarding Russian Submariners Highest Honours for effectively "saving the world"? It was a bizarre announcement but your above post resonates with me along the same lines...there was no mention as to what they did, what the scenario was or what would have happened if they did not gives their lives for whatever positive outcome was achieved. I'd love a remote viewer to offer some insights...

As it relates to your other posts about awareness I tend to work with what I consider to be "sensible preparedness". I live in Canada, it is sensible to have in my car certain items for a breakdown during the worst of dangerous weather conditions and the skills to make effective use of them. That is "just" for driving a few 100 KM. It is not paranoia or "giving into fear" to reasonably expect I could be stuck in the middle of nowhere for a few hours or even a week in some remote areas without help.

I also live in a Major metropolis that has experienced a prolonged power outage...we had "fun" that summer, for a week or so. But...I saw the worry creeping into my neighbours eyes. Towards the end I went down to my boat which is provisioned for extended cruising becuase there are NO grocery stores 100 KM from shore. :) are sailors "crazy" No, and neither are people who go for extended hiking and camping trips.

I keep seeing an image of a person standing in front of a vending machine, that has no power, just looking forlorn and abjectly "lost" in some sort of shock or cognitive dissonance loop...Are people crazy to prepare..or are they crazy not to?

The Boy Scout Motto is actually " Be Prepared" although I have not kitted myself out for every possible scenario ( no one really can) but even a 2 week lockdown or power outage could devastate a lot of people and that is not "manifesting" problems into reality. You'd be appalled at how many people went to hospital for dehydration last summer directly from the beach.....they literally are surrounded by freshwater and vendors of bottled water and fountains of "clean" city water and they pass out from heatstroke.....they, will not last long. *groans* water, you cannot remember to drink water!!?? Their polar opposites of course have tractor trailer loads.........of toilet paper...and nothing to eat.

Hopefully they can "manifest" a big Mac or some aspirin when the need arises

[Waldo]

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[Bill Ryan]

Bill, do you recall Putin Posthumously awarding Russian Submariners Highest Honours for effectively "saving the world"? It was a bizarre announcement but your above post resonates with me along the same lines...there was no mention as to what they did, what the scenario was or what would have happened if they did not gives their lives for whatever positive outcome was achieved. I'd love a remote viewer to offer some insights...I don't have a reference for that. But the Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov), which is excellent, detailed, fascinating and (as best I know) fully accurate, references this 2017 Guardian article:


https://.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/27/vasili-arkhipov-soviet-submarine-captain-who-averted-nuclear-war-awarded-future-of-life-prize

~~~


Soviet submarine officer who averted nuclear war honoured with prize

Vasili Arkhipov, who prevented escalation of the cold war by refusing to launch a nuclear torpedo against US forces, is to be awarded new ‘Future of Life’ prize.

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/71de2130a3cd9a0dbd46cbf68ebc07583d541a2f/0_0_1075_972/master/1075.jpg?width=465&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none

A senior officer of a Soviet submarine who averted the outbreak of nuclear conflict during the cold war is to be honoured with a new prize, 55 years to the day after his heroic actions averted global catastrophe.

On 27 October 1962, Vasili Alexandrovich Arkhipov was on board the Soviet submarine B-59 near Cuba when the US forces began dropping non-lethal depth charges. While the action was designed to encourage the Soviet submarines to surface, the crew of B-59 had been incommunicado and so were unaware of the intention. They thought they were witnessing the beginning of a third world war.

Trapped in the sweltering submarine – the air-conditioning was no longer working – the crew feared death. But, unknown to the US forces, they had a special weapon in their arsenal: a ten kilotonne nuclear torpedo. What’s more, the officers had permission to launch it without waiting for approval from Moscow.

Two of the vessel’s senior officers – including the captain, Valentin Savitsky – wanted to launch the missile. According to a report from the US National Security Archive (https://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/files/CMC50/SavranskayaJSSNewsourcesonroleofSovietsubmarinesinCMC.pdf), Savitsky exclaimed: “We’re gonna blast them now! We will die, but we will sink them all – we will not become the shame of the fleet.”

But there was an important caveat: all three senior officers on board had to agree to deploy the weapon. As a result, the situation in the control room played out very differently. Arkhipov refused to sanction the launch of the weapon and calmed the captain down. The torpedo was never fired.

Had it been launched, the fate of the world would have been very different: the attack would probably have started a nuclear war which would have caused global devastation, with unimaginable numbers of civilian deaths.

“The lesson from this is that a guy called Vasili Arkhipov saved the world,’’ Thomas Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at George Washington University, told the Boston Globe (http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cold-war/sovietsbomb.htm) in 2002, following a conference in which the details of the situation were explored.

Now, 55 years after he averted nuclear war and 19 years after his death, Arkhipov is to be honoured, with his family the first recipients of a new award.

The prize, dubbed the “Future of Life award” is the brainchild of the Future of Life Insitute – a US-based organisation whose goal is to tackle threats to humanity and whose advisory board includes such luminaries as Elon Musk, the astronomer royal Prof Martin Rees, and actor Morgan Freeman.

“The Future of Life award is a prize awarded for a heroic act that has greatly benefited humankind, done despite personal risk and without being rewarded at the time,” said Max Tegmark (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/16/ai-will-superintelligent-computers-replace-us-robots-max-tegmark-life-3-0), professor of physics at MIT and leader of the Future of Life Institute.

Speaking to Tegmark, Arkhipov’s daughter Elena Andriukova said the family were grateful for the prize, and its recognition of Arkhipov’s actions.

“He always thought that he did what he had to do and never considered his actions as heroism. He acted like a man who knew what kind of disasters can come from radiation,” she said. “He did his part for the future so that everyone can live on our planet.”

The $50,000 prize will be presented to Arkhipov’s grandson, Sergei, and Andriukova at the Institute of Engineering and Technology on Friday evening.

Beatrice Fihn, executive director of the Nobel peace prize-winning organisation, the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/06/anti-nuclear-campaign-group-ican-wins-nobel-peace-prize), said Arkhipov’s actions were a reminder of how the world had teetered on the brink of disaster. “Arkhipov’s story shows how close to nuclear catastrophe we have been in the past,” she said.

The timing of the award, Fihn added, is apt. “As the risk of nuclear war is on the rise right now, all states must urgently join the treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/07/treaty-banning-nuclear-weapons-approved-un) to prevent such catastrophe.”

Dr Jonathan Colman, an expert on the Cuban missile crisis at the University of Central Lancashire, agreed that the award was fitting.

“While accounts differ about what went on on board the B-59, it is clear that Arkhipov and the crew operated under conditions of extreme tension and physical hardship. Once the nuclear threshold had been crossed, it is hard to imagine that the genie could have been put back into the bottle,” he said.

“President Kennedy had been very worried about the possibility of a clash between American warships and Soviet submarines in the Caribbean, and it is absolutely clear that his fears were justified,” Colman added, noting that certain decisions at the operational level were out of his control. “Ultimately, it was luck as much as management that ensured that the missile crisis ended without the most dreadful consequences.”

[Nasu]

We are living in interesting times to be sure. Are current geophysical events part of a measurable cycle of imminent destruction seems much less sure.

Could our civilization be headed for Armageddon, seems likely given a long enough time line. Are we lied to all the time by our governments and media, for absolutely sure. Could the proxy war with Russia and China go hot, sadly quite possibly.

However, all that being said, we cannot rely on our history to give us much insight. Our written history only goes back to the Sumerians, about five thousand years, before which is pre history or prehistoric. Yes there are clues in the ice core samples and various layers of rock strata but nothing definitive that shows any measurable or clear cycle that we can track and thus avoid.

Aside from the big five main extinction events that we can trace, there have been many many more smaller, localized extinctions. Many more creatures are extinct than exist today. On a human personal level, we represent the twentieth iteration of our species, all the other nineteen being now extinct, as another witty poster pointed out, none of us are getting out of this alive, prepared or not. We accept death for the most part, doing our very best to avoid it of course. We understand asteroid impacts and their attendant destruction yet don’t build cities underground aside from military DUMBS which few of us have the keys for. Over 80% of our species live next to the sea or on or near a fault-line, or volcano, all being an obvious ticking time bomb.

So what I hear you say. So live your short life as best you can. Prepare for the worst but try to hope and live for the best, IMHO.

As for TheEndIsNear and this doom laden thread, I hope i’m wrong but it seems like yet another new member wanting to drive traffic to their own website and not want to actually engage or discuss the topic that they themselves introduce. The literary equivalent of throwing a text hand grenade, without any care or interest for the aftermath. Perhaps for the best of reasons and intentions. Who knows. I would be interested to hear his or her or their opinions on this subject, I for one will not trawl through their suggested site as others have done to little or no avail.

This is a forum after all, a place of discussion where we can mutually learn from each others insight. TheEndIsNear might be better off on twitter or other such sites and audiences.

Life is short, I hope on that at least, we can all agree……x…… N

[Bill Ryan]

https://t.me/intelslava/44464

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[s7e6e]

https://t.me/intelslava/44464

intelslava/44464

This is what you get when you covertly destroy other people's property. Turkey could follow suit.

[mountain_jim]

more info on what Bill posted above

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-nuclear-ships-norway-ukraine-war/

Russia deploys nuclear-armed ships for first time in 30 years, Norway says
‘Tactical nuclear weapons are a particularly serious threat,’ Norwegian intelligence report says.

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A Russian nuclear-powered ice-breaker in Saint Petersburg in 2020 | Olga Maltseva/AFP via Getty Images

BY WILHELMINE PREUSSEN
FEBRUARY 14, 2023 2:04 PM CET
1 MINUTE READ

Russia has begun deploying tactical nuclear weapon-armed vessels in the Baltic Sea for the first time in the last 30 years, the Norwegian Intelligence Service said in its annual report.

“The key part of the nuclear potential is on the submarines and surface ships of the Northern Fleet,” the Norwegian intel noted.

The Northern Fleet warships regularly went to sea with nuclear weapons during the Cold War era, but this is the first time the modern Russian Federation has done the same, the report added.

While Russia also has submarine capabilities, anti-satellite weapons and cyber capabilities that could threaten Norway and the NATO military alliance, tactical nuclear weapons are “a particularly serious threat in several operational scenarios in which NATO countries may be involved,” the report said.

The Norwegian intelligence also noted that an escalation of a localized war into a wider conflict involving the United States, NATO and Norway cannot be ruled out.

The agency assessed that while Russia will maintain, modernize and develop its nuclear arsenal, no significant changes in Russian nuclear doctrine are expected in the coming years.

[mountain_jim]

still have my core spirit optimism - including this here (I met and have several books signed by Terrence 4 years before this.)

https://twitter.com/LueDawg1/status/1625154129688694792?s=20&t=Ana6Ms54Gyku3D3-_UhdHA

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[Nasu]

I saw this short video today and it made me think of this thread. It’s only 3.45 minutes long. I think it speaks of our innate fear of change as a species, as well as our fear of death and apprehension of possible rebirth. Enjoy….x…. N


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3sQwiqniI

[grapevine]

CIA Classified Book about the Pole Shift, Mass Extinctions and The True Adam & Eve Story

In 1966 a well-known engineer released a book with information that could impact everyone on earth. But before anyone could read it, it was classified by the CIA. Why does the CIA think this book is so dangerous that they had to hide it from the public for 60 years; and continue to hide most of it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3fkTq_p0o&ab_channel=TheWhyFiles

This video pulls together a lot of information relevant to what seems to be happening right now and well worth a watch.

[Nasu]

CIA Classified Book about the Pole Shift, Mass Extinctions and The True Adam & Eve Story

In 1966 a well-known engineer released a book with information that could impact everyone on earth. But before anyone could read it, it was classified by the CIA. Why does the CIA think this book is so dangerous that they had to hide it from the public for 60 years; and continue to hide most of it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3fkTq_p0o&ab_channel=TheWhyFiles

This video pulls together a lot of information relevant to what seems to be happening right now and well worth a watch.

It’s an interesting topic for sure. It’s been covered at some length here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105386-The-Next-End-of-the-World-a-CIA-declassified-document-The-Adam-and-Eve-Story&highlight=Adam

[Ben]

I saw this short video today and it made me think of this thread. It’s only 3.45 minutes long. I think it speaks of our innate fear of change as a species, as well as our fear of death and apprehension of possible rebirth. Enjoy….x…. N


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3sQwiqniI

Except the empire didn't end, and wasn't reborn in Venice. Venice was chosen as the new centre of a much more nefarious version of the empire (where birth (berth) certificates are kept under admiralty law, under which we all became chattel of the so called rulers). I still like the sentiment of nothing being the actual end though - that feels very true to me.

Unless we're talking about the end of 'their' empire that is, as although these times are on one hand extremely upsetting, on the other we are witnessing an unprecedented awakening on all levels that is ushering in an unseen before age of enlightenment

[wondering]

Nasu, Wonderful video on Gibbon, perfectly matched to my attention span these days. Humorous, really, and strangely comforting. Thank you. As I have heard it said, life is too important to be taken seriously. ✌️😊

[s7e6e]

If it comes to an end, all I hope is a quick one for our children. They don't deserve the pain.

[Delight]

Listen to this from 50:39. The global disaster is deliberate war declared on LIFE as it has been....THE WHOLE SHEBANG. No one will be spared: man and woman and child, plant, animal, element. The intention to destroy the whole world "to build back better" in WHO's (?) image? It is absolutely an end game. I am sure this is the case and IMO we MUST turn within to seek Divine Intervention. I take it seriously that when I was growing up, I was TRAINED to disbelieve in a Higher Power that is able to effect our world AND to disbelieve in sheer EVIL as real force.

MIKE WILLIAMS ON BILLY WATSON TV - ALL THE WORLD'S A STAGE - FULL SHOW (FEB 2023)

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[grapevine]

still have my core spirit optimism - including this here (I met and have several books signed by Terrence 4 years before this.)

https://twitter.com/LueDawg1/status/1625154129688694792?s=20&t=Ana6Ms54Gyku3D3-_UhdHA

1625154129688694792

Thank you so much for posting this. If I had listened to this a few years ago - say pre 2016 - it wouldn't have had the same impact as it does today. I found this video amazing, so much so that I sought out the entire interview, which turned out to be Terence McKenna's last (link below).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdEKhIk-8Gg&ab_channel=WISDOMFORLIFE

[mountain_jim]

Thanks Miller for posting the whole interview

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Greg Heffernan
2 years ago (edited)
His last interview in the field. Second last interview, as it turns out. His last is with Erik Davis in 1999:

In late 1999, McKenna described his thoughts concerning his impending death to interviewer Erik Davis:

I always thought death would come on the freeway in a few horrifying moments, so you'd have no time to sort it out. Having months and months to look at it and think about it and talk to people and hear what they have to say, it's a kind of blessing. It's certainly an opportunity to grow up and get a grip and sort it all out. Just being told by an unsmiling guy in a white coat that you're going to be dead in four months definitely turns on the lights. ... It makes life rich and poignant. When it first happened, and I got these diagnoses, I could see the light of eternity, à la William Blake, shining through every leaf. I mean, a bug walking across the ground moved me to tears.
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[Pam]

CIA Classified Book about the Pole Shift, Mass Extinctions and The True Adam & Eve Story

In 1966 a well-known engineer released a book with information that could impact everyone on earth. But before anyone could read it, it was classified by the CIA. Why does the CIA think this book is so dangerous that they had to hide it from the public for 60 years; and continue to hide most of it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3fkTq_p0o&ab_channel=TheWhyFiles

This video pulls together a lot of information relevant to what seems to be happening right now and well worth a watch.

It’s an interesting topic for sure. It’s been covered at some length here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105386-The-Next-End-of-the-World-a-CIA-declassified-document-The-Adam-and-Eve-Story&highlight=Adam

I find I really enjoy this channel. Probably learned about it from you....that tad of humor with some very interesting topics is great educational or at the very least get's one thinking in a most entertaining way......

[mizo]

Well if this happens ...
https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/status/1625823368476872704

I hope it's just that - a rumour

[pyrangello]

New Kerry Cassidy & Dark Outpost: Balloons, UFOs, Train Derailments, Future Bioweapons!

https://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2023/02/new-kerry-cassidy-dark-outpost-balloons-ufos-train-derailments-future-bioweapons-2560493.html

Kerry lays it out whats happening and where we re going, great interview.

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[TomKat]

Nothing like a trip to Planet Kassidy totilt your pinball machine

[Patient]

Nothing like a trip to Planet Kassidy totilt your pinball machine

Lol!

Yeah, but I bet you have beaten the score on a pinball machine without pushing it about!

You have to learn the game system, the machine, and then hit the right spots at the right time. :)

If you analyze your life and what you do, you can see how you are integrated into the dark/bad stuff - right here we are using the internet and you might have some bluetooth items in your home.

Slowly we need to find more ways to live without using the tools and methods that the other team is trying to force us into using.

Of course it is not easy, but as more people realize HOW we can make a difference, a difference will be made. We have to play their game and use it against them.

[mizo]

Large explosive bang heard over part of TX USA - various speculative thoughts - meteor?

https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/16260416899314073601626041689931407360

[Bill Ryan]

From Reuters, reported on US News:


https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-02-18/sunak-harris-discuss-ukraine-call-the-conflict-a-global-war

Sunak, Harris Discuss Ukraine, Call the Conflict 'A Global War'

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris condemned the countries which have supported Russian President Vladimir Putin's efforts in Ukraine, Sunak's office said, describing the war as a "global war".

[jaybee]

From Reuters, reported on US News:


https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-02-18/sunak-harris-discuss-ukraine-call-the-conflict-a-global-war

Sunak, Harris Discuss Ukraine, Call the Conflict 'A Global War'

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris condemned the countries which have supported Russian President Vladimir Putin's efforts in Ukraine, Sunak's office said, describing the war as a "global war".


Harris and Sunak.... wheeled out by the warmongers to continue the endless dumb f*ckery....

sorry couldn't resist :) after seeing Matthew's post here...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114794-VIDEO-memes-and-popular-culture&p=1544132&viewfull=1#post1544132

[mountain_jim]

I don't know if this is current - truck driver delivering food(?) from Kraft to "The Springfield Underground".

(saw it retweeted from a source that some times get things wrong)

https://twitter.com/DavidWolfe/status/1627105604413329411?s=20

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[Bill Ryan]

I don't know if this is current - truck driver delivering food(?) from Kraft to "The Springfield Underground".

Well, The Springfield Underground has its own website: :)


https://springfieldunderground.com

It seems simply to be a large underground storage depot. If this was a classified military area, there's no way he would have been allowed to record a TikTok video from there. Security guards would have jumped on him in 30 seconds or less.

:focus:

[ExomatrixTV]

Why does @TheEndIsNear (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?50311-TheEndIsNear) not respond to any of the 67+ replies here?


Introduction would also be nice ... and what his/her background is, his/her beliefs/passion, goals etc.

Or is that too much to ask?

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Disasters are ongoing thanks to hind feet in high places, weather wars, bio weapons, woke agendas and the totalitarian tiptoe. Mother Earth needs a thorough cleansing as does humanity, I continue to hold the intention that evil will be exposed and deposed as do so many ‘light workers’, it is happening too. But…

Whether we will transcend into an egalitarian, sane civilisation led by humans with integrity and a genuine desire to improve the lot of all sentient beings and the planet itself, is open to question as undoubtedly this world of duality is a school for us all and maybe the utopia is only available to those advanced souls who earn a place in it.

Meanwhile, this recent tweet from Uri Geller could be seen as encouraging, though he has been in bed with the agencies for decades so in typical dual fashion, could be part of the blue beam agenda or a sign that good ETs will not allow a nuclear Armageddon.

Whatever, don’t sweat it friends, watch the circuses with peaceful detachment because when all is said and done, we will find ourselves back where we started, maybe a little wiser.


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"I am being sent these from reliable source GOV"

Sure Uri, dont you have some cutlery to bend..........................:thumbsdown:.........................RRR

[Sérénité]

It gave the impression from the start that the original post was more for the purpose of directing traffic to his forum, as opposed to actually discussing it here and giving any valid reasoning behind the sensational headlines that have quite possibly terrified a lot of people who’ve read it…
We know the world is in a bit of a mess, most likely will get even more messy.
But to instil fear into people with such intensity with very little to back it up, just for some PR stunt, isn’t helping anyone.

[Matthew]

It gave the impression from the start that the original post was more for the purpose of directing traffic to his forum, as opposed to actually discussing it here and giving any valid reasoning behind the sensational headlines that have quite possibly terrified a lot of people who’ve read it…
We know the world is in a bit of a mess, most likely will get even more messy.
But to instil fear into people with such intensity with very little to back it up, just for some PR stunt, isn’t helping anyone.

This is a fair point. We've got a hit and run rather than participation in the forum. I've searched text from the opening post and found matches in various comments around the internet and reddit posts. This one is from 22 hours ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1167t25/it_is_time_for_you_to_find_out_what_is_really/

I don't begrudge anyone trying to be heard. But this is a globbed paragraph pasted at high speed in multiple places at once. It reeks of panic. Panic might not be inappropriate but as you point out Sérénité it doesn't help, it's famous for making things worse.

The reason this thread has gone down well is credit to the forum not the opening post. I guess without more input from TheEndIsNear this thread serves as our own placeholder talking-point. But to TheEndIsNear: we welcome your interaction! You have welcomed us to our own forum in your first posts but let it not also go unsaid: welcome to you to the forum!

TheEndIsNear what do you think of the comments in this thread? Have you got any thoughts to share? Or is this a one way route to your forum?

[Nasu]

It gave the impression from the start that the original post was more for the purpose of directing traffic to his forum, as opposed to actually discussing it here and giving any valid reasoning behind the sensational headlines that have quite possibly terrified a lot of people who’ve read it…
We know the world is in a bit of a mess, most likely will get even more messy.
But to instil fear into people with such intensity with very little to back it up, just for some PR stunt, isn’t helping anyone.

This is a fair point. We've got a hit and run rather than participation in the forum. I've searched text from the opening post and found matches in various comments around the internet and reddit posts. This one is from 22 hours ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1167t25/it_is_time_for_you_to_find_out_what_is_really/

I don't begrudge anyone trying to be heard. But this is a globbed paragraph pasted at high speed in multiple places at once. It reeks of panic. Panic might not be inappropriate but as you point out Sérénité it doesn't help, it's famous for making things worse.

The reason this thread has gone down well is credit to the forum not the opening post. I guess without more input from TheEndIsNear this thread serves as our own placeholder talking-point. But to TheEndIsNear: we welcome your interaction! You have welcomed us to our own forum in your first posts but let it not also go unsaid: welcome to you to the forum!

TheEndIsNear what do you think of the comments in this thread? Have you got any thoughts to share? Or is this a one way route to your forum?

Reading through that sub reddit post it seems theendisnear is just posting this everywhere. The most salient comment being this one:

""Fibonacci1664
·
13 hr. ago

I know this is the conspiracy subreddit, but I can't tell if this is a **** post!

This reads like the OP just opened an encyclopaedia of apocalyptic conspiracies at random pages and then pieced this together from those random pages.

I mean pretty much all the big talking points are hit:

The Sun Cycles.

Earthquakes.

Geomagnetic Storms.

Power Outages.

Asteroids.

Global Food Shortages.

WW3

Global Pandemic.

Aliens.

Bio Terrorism.

HAARP.

Cyber and EMP Attacks.

Give me a break, this type of **** is the reason why even people who come up with genuine questions about certain incidents which don't add up get a hard time. Those genuinely questioning people get lumped into the same pot with these loons and everybody suffers because of it.

Good **** post though!"

On a side note, I do find it interesting that we have moved from a wild eyed person with a placard on them claiming the end is nigh to the digital equivalent. So much for a discussion. I hope he or she got the hits on their site that they were hoping for......x..... N

[Anchor]

--

The end is always near. Really. Every moment contains an ending and a beginning. Each of us connects the ones we experience with our present moment.

The end is near, but so is the beginning.

Relax. Breathe. Smile. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13534-You-are-not-losing-it-everything-is-changing)

[Pam]

This is a very interesting and short video. I don't even know who actually is speaking but he is making an observation as for whatever reason he has been checking a website for air quality once a week for years. What he shows us is very concerning. To think that Biden originally refused Federal assistance. And Dept of transportation flunky Mayor Pete, were too busy worrying about the number of white men with construction jobs. Lets not forget the offer of 5 dollars to each citizen of the town.... well maybe it was due a little more attention. Where is our dear Greta?



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[ExomatrixTV]

Disasters are ongoing thanks to hind feet in high places, weather wars, bio weapons, woke agendas and the totalitarian tiptoe. Mother Earth needs a thorough cleansing as does humanity, I continue to hold the intention that evil will be exposed and deposed as do so many ‘light workers’, it is happening too. But…

Whether we will transcend into an egalitarian, sane civilisation led by humans with integrity and a genuine desire to improve the lot of all sentient beings and the planet itself, is open to question as undoubtedly this world of duality is a school for us all and maybe the utopia is only available to those advanced souls who earn a place in it.

Meanwhile, this recent tweet from Uri Geller could be seen as encouraging, though he has been in bed with the agencies for decades so in typical dual fashion, could be part of the blue beam agenda or a sign that good ETs will not allow a nuclear Armageddon.

Whatever, don’t sweat it friends, watch the circuses with peaceful detachment because when all is said and done, we will find ourselves back where we started, maybe a little wiser.


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"I am being sent these from reliable source GOV"

Sure Uri, dont you have some cutlery to bend..........................:thumbsdown:.........................RRR



has many hallmarks of being CGI

2 or 3 years ago, (maybe 4 years ago) I made a list of what makes a UFO-video footage worthy of our attention ... I have to look it up ... because it seems needed ... so many assume to see an "incredible" UFO footage with no real verifiable sources no real independent eyewitnesses accounts of the same object etc. etc. (the list is long!) ...

[East Sun]

I did not read everything on this thread, so I may have missed something relative to
my question.

Don't we need sunshine to be physically and mentally and otherwise healthy?
I have read many times over nthe years that humans have survived underground
for long periods of time.

They must have found a way to get Vitamin D and other necessary nutrition
from other sources. Maybe some artificial means. I'd be interested to know
what, where, how, why if anyone can enlighten me.
Thanks in advance.

[amor]

Thanks for the Skeleton waiting for Armageddon and the Dolphins full of fun. I got a good giggle at them both. For those with seriously troubling fears, I can add a few of my own not above mentioned. This is the way I view the war in Ukraine: A war between the world Bankers, allied with the Nazis, the British (who are in bed with the Rothchilds), who are in Bed with the Black Hats of the US Military under the top-down world government nazi space program, also playing they are in bed with China and their organ harvesting evil, all corning money in global human trafficing. Compared with that lot, even Russia with its inside political killings comes out looking good. I think we should pray for Mr. Putin and the people of this world very very seriously. I believe that it is the New World Order Gang, which also includes the bankers that feel the need to start a nuclear war with Russia in order to cover their banking thefts and losses at our expense; and they don't give a hoot if the Earth perishes as a result. The more of us they kill the more bank accounts they get to KEEP. Also, the less Social Security they have to pay out.

AND in the advent Mr. PUTIN gets to read this, the shaking of the hands comes from poisons placed in wine during its manufacture which sometimes gets more dumped in the vat than intended. When you take a sip of the wine, it immediately travels through the blood/Brain barrier, affecting the nervous system. I know, because it happened to me once. I immediately emptied the bottle in the sink and have not bought or sipped wine since. To have your hand immediately start shaking and it not being under your control is a signal to STOP DRINKING IT.

MONEY as it is used in the world today permits and encourages poverty and crime. However, to be able to remove access to a depositors account as a control mechanism is the kind of evil constitutions have always attempted to avoid. Thieves will always find a way to get what they want, while the suffering and restrictions placed on the minds, inventiveness and generally joy is a cause of the world's misery. The total control of what patents are allowed to exist and thereby used is pure evil. It results in a cramped world where a few have all and the rest have little or none when invention can supply all our needs. Being poor does not mean you have no brains; it means you are stopped at square one by the lack of money. In short, billions of people are forced to exist in a straitjacket.

Back to the subject of periodic disasters on Earth. The planet between Jupiter and Mars which was exploded in a war with the reptilians left massive debre orbiting the sun which I believe intersects our orbit from time to time. If the Hadron Collider has moved our planet, it may circumvent or hasten our being in the path of this orbiting planetary matter. The water from its oceans crashed into Earth causing the Biblical Flood. Another collision in time may have resulted in death of the prehistoric creatures and the freezing of Mamoths with food in their mouths. A tropical world was immediately transformed into an Ice Age. It may have happened many times.

There is one observation of the SUN I would like to share. Perhaps someone may be able to add it to other observations and come to a useful conclusion. As I have mentioned on Avilon before, I was born in the tropics and got used to looking into the sun. These days, the sun has become inordinately brighter. Recently, I observed it through a tiny opening which I made with my fist and have concluded that the disk appears not to have changed its diameter. While there may be several reasons for its terrible brightness, it occurred to me that the medium of space which is filled with an electrical field may have become more constricted, acting as a large magnifying glass. If space really is a donut shape, we may either be going into or coming out of a section of the donut forcing the electrical lines closer together than formerly. We can only really PRAY and PREPARE for what may happen. However, those with severely limited incomes cannot possibly prepare when, as the book of Revelations tells, the cost of food becomes astronomical. All thoughts on these subjects are welcomed.

[Bill Ryan]

Details of Putin's major speech to the Russian Federal Assembly have been posted here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118635-The-Putin-Thread&p=1544478&viewfull=1#post1544478) (and in subsequent posts) on The Putin Thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118635-The-Putin-Thread). Here's one major development:


https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-suspends-new-start-nuclear-treaty-puts-new-missiles-combat-readiness

Putin Suspends New START Nuclear Treaty, Puts Missiles On Combat Readiness

"President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday suspended Russian participation in the last remaining nuclear arms control treaty with the United States, warning Washington that Russia had put new ground-based strategic nuclear weapons on combat duty," Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-update-russias-elite-ukraine-war-major-speech-2023-02-21/) reports of the new declaration.

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(aside)
And a Mods Note about this thread. The new member who started it with his first post (TheEndIsNear (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120556-A-global-disaster-is-coming-in-2023--that-s-for-sure--)) may never return to post again, but that doesn't really matter. Concerns about what may possibly lie in store for us (this year, or any other time soon) are arguably valid, and this thread seems to be a good repository of information that those in the community might want to consider or discuss.

:focus: :flower:

[palehorse]

I did not read everything on this thread, so I may have missed something relative to
my question.

Don't we need sunshine to be physically and mentally and otherwise healthy?
I have read many times over nthe years that humans have survived underground
for long periods of time.

They must have found a way to get Vitamin D and other necessary nutrition
from other sources. Maybe some artificial means. I'd be interested to know
what, where, how, why if anyone can enlighten me.
Thanks in advance.


Here is something that may interest you.

"The Underground City (Chinese: 地下城; pinyin: Dìxià Chéng) is a Cold War era bomb shelter consisting of a network of tunnels located beneath Beijing, China. It has also been referred to as the Underground Great Wall since it was built for the purpose of military defense. The complex was constructed from 1969 to 1979 in anticipation of a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, as Sino-Soviet relations worsened[1][2] and was officially reopened in 2000.[3] Visitors were allowed to tour portions of the complex,[3] which has been described as "dark, damp, and genuinely eerie".[4] Underground City has been closed for renovation since at least February 2008."

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_City_(Beijing)
https://nypost.com/2020/08/05/inside-chinas-underground-doomsday-city-dubbed-the-dungeon/ (a full article about it)

I heard that places like bomb shelter and underground galleries are a common thing in China, some of these places were abandoned long ago and people somehow took over and are living in these underground places, for what I know not even authorities are crazy enough to go down in places like that, they would need the entire cavalry! I know one of these places in Sao Paulo, homeless people actually temporarily live down there in what they call "galerias", the places get flooded from time to time, it is not a full time living place, also authorities storm the place every now and then..

I think the same goes for a lot of major cities around the world, there is people living underground, no doubt.

I don't know how someone can have a health life in dark places like that, but as an emergency shelter it may work.

But let's look into the bright side, there is these controlled environments like underground bases, bunkers, laboratories, etc.. where people work and live for extended period of time, they may have some yellow light in order to survive there, blue light is bad, not even plant would grow with that.

for vit D

- fatty fish/seafood may be a good source (tuna, sardines??)
- mushrooms is well know to contain vit D not sure which one (would have to do a little research) but hey, shrooms needs sunlight to produce vit D just like us.. maybe in dry form would do the trick.
- egg yolk (maybe in dry form to stock long period of time, it may preserve the vit d) - it is relative when talking about vit d in eggs, because it highly depends on the feed, bad feed means bad eggs.
- supplement (pills - that would be my last option, but still an option)
- UV lamp ? (the ones used to grow weed lol)

I know one thing, I would never be a happy living as a marmot, I would prefer live as a bear instead haha

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Disasters are ongoing thanks to hind feet in high places, weather wars, bio weapons, woke agendas and the totalitarian tiptoe. Mother Earth needs a thorough cleansing as does humanity, I continue to hold the intention that evil will be exposed and deposed as do so many ‘light workers’, it is happening too. But…

Whether we will transcend into an egalitarian, sane civilisation led by humans with integrity and a genuine desire to improve the lot of all sentient beings and the planet itself, is open to question as undoubtedly this world of duality is a school for us all and maybe the utopia is only available to those advanced souls who earn a place in it.

Meanwhile, this recent tweet from Uri Geller could be seen as encouraging, though he has been in bed with the agencies for decades so in typical dual fashion, could be part of the blue beam agenda or a sign that good ETs will not allow a nuclear Armageddon.

Whatever, don’t sweat it friends, watch the circuses with peaceful detachment because when all is said and done, we will find ourselves back where we started, maybe a little wiser.


1623720674228334592
"I am being sent these from reliable source GOV"

Sure Uri, dont you have some cutlery to bend..........................:thumbsdown:.........................RRR



has many hallmarks of being CGI

2 or 3 years ago, (maybe 4 years ago) I made a list of what makes a UFO-video footage worthy of our attention ... I have to look it up ... because it seems needed ... so many assume to see an "incredible" UFO footage with no real verifiable sources no real independent eyewitnesses accounts of the same object etc. etc. (the list is long!) ...

Yeah John, a list of things that make a sighting credible is important, like detective work, but im a little different in that i see something i cant explain, then instead of wondering what "it" is, i cross out what it "isnt".
I say to myself .Is it a plane, bird, satellite, chopper, star, hotair balloon, swamp gas lol, etc etc, once ive ruled everything out i can then try imagine what it is.
Regarding CGI and similar, it has become so hard to spot a fake pic or video that there was a court of law that banned pictures or videos as evidence, thats how good fakery has come.
I had my latest sighting a few months ago and i posted it here, to make it easier for anyone watching my video know that i really did record something extraordinary, i talked through out the vid, i told my name "RRR", i told where i was and pointed out the streetlight and other stuff.
See if you can locate that list Johnny, id like to view it, cheers...........RRR

[Applesprig]

Just my opinion: Far too much emphasis is placed on the Sun's role in climate catastrophes, albeit X class flares and bigger do affect earth but not to the extent that comets do. Something happened roughly 12000 years ago which changed our PHYSICAL poles to the position it is now in ( from Hudson Bay area) The wandering MAGNETIC poles is due to the fact that it is returning "home" to align with the pole of earth's actual rotation It takes a long time for the two to get together and act in sync. Earth by itself cannot have a pole shift, it needs a force ( impulse) to shift. Force requires a resistance, what I mean is, for example 2 wrestlers on a mat will exert force against each other..... however if they were to wrestle in outer space, nothing could happen. The same goes for our planet. It would take a large comet passing close to earth to do this. The moon has a much smaller effect on earth, it moves the tides about 20 ft and the terrains about 1 inch, but because the motion is fairly slow ( 1000 klms a hour) the effects on earth are gentle. A large comet passing at incedible speed will do the job. And as far as the " fire falling from heaven, toxic air, darkness, the great Flood etc etc, these are because Earth is passing through the enormous tail of the comet, this can last several months, even years depending on the mechanics of both bodie's orbits. A large solar outburst directed at earth would create all sorts of magnetic and radiation anomalies , more uv C , disrupt electrical circuits and so on. The sun's quiescent would affect our ability to grow enough food to feed everyone.... we are in that episode now.

[Journeyman]

Ben, Wind and Wondering all spoke well on the first page of this thread. I try not to get too hooked by the myriad apocalyptic portents that seem to surround us at this time. However, you may find Ken Mclean's work of interest. He doesn't have the large following of channels such as Suspicious Observer, but he makes some interesting observations on artifects from ancient cultures and how they may relate to the Earth's regular cycle of pole shifts:

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[Rahul]

This is truly fascinating about the Mayan calendar, Lunesoleil. Thanks very much for posting this. Is there a way on this forum I can 'follow' your new postings? Best wishes, Rahul