The Old World - who built those magnificent structures found everywhere?

[Raskolnikov]

This is my first post. I've been fascinated by the research digging up old photos of the old world, photos that clearly prove there was a worldwide civilization that erected impressive structures that dwarf our own in size, masonic knowledge and ornate beauty, not to mention the grid systems and ports they constructed. Would love any further leads on this topic. I don't know if someone's already posted on this subject but this video really impressed me. The massive structures that go on for miles at the end was supposedly the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. It's a pleasant viewing put to some nice classical music - enjoy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V0-5KAjbm4

My wife and I really love the JonLevi channel on YT, he's got an excellent delivery and a dry sense of humor and he and his subscribers find excellent material that contradicts the known historical narrative (some excellent photos of star forts in this one):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7rZ3-Fbjf0

[Bill Ryan]

A warm welcome to the forum! We're delighted to have you with us. :highfive:

We have a new thread here that might be interesting:


Starforts and Other Ancient Anomalies (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120618-Starforts-and-Other-Ancient-Anomalies)

Jay Weidner, reported on this thread, has discussed the interesting issue of the World's Fairs in the 19th century: (but his videos also address numerous other topics)


REALiTY CHeCK with Jay Weidner (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108337-REALiTY-CHeCK-with-Jay-Weidner)

And finally, in the Avalon section titled Archeology and Anthropology (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?97-Archeology-and-Anthropology), there are many threads (probably hundreds!) about ancient megalithic stone structures, their builders, and associated topics.

Enjoy! :)
:happy dog:

[Raskolnikov]

A warm welcome to the forum! We're delighted to have you with us. :highfive:

We have a new thread here that might be interesting:


Starforts and Other Ancient Anomalies (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120618-Starforts-and-Other-Ancient-Anomalies)

Jay Weidner, reported on this thread, has discussed the interesting issue of the World's Fairs in the 19th century: (but his videos also address numerous other topics)


REALiTY CHeCK with Jay Weidner (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108337-REALiTY-CHeCK-with-Jay-Weidner)

And finally, in the Avalon section titled Archeology and Anthropology (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?97-Archeology-and-Anthropology), there are many threads (probably hundreds!) about ancient megalithic stone structures, their builders, and associated topics.

Enjoy! :)
:happy dog:

Thanks Bill. Yes, I guess this post could've gone under archeology and anthropology but I'm really interested in our lost history and the lies continually fed to us in our historical narrative. Seems if we can't replicate such structures today then they were most likely built by another civilization, another more advanced civilization, and one that covered the "globe", because these buildings have been found in nearly every country. It's a fascinating topic to me so thanks for the leads.

[Nasu]

Fascinating footage of old stuff. Only the other day I remarked that our current systems are sh!t compared to the same systems of a hundred years ago. Sure they were not perfect by any means. But in terms of logistics they outmatched us in so many ways.

For example, with all our technology and electronics and so called modern advancements, our postal system is far less superior than the Victorian postal system, at least in the US and Uk. Back then they had two posts a day including Saturday. By many measurable metrics that time seemed a pinnacle of human society.

Thanks for the post, as firsts go it’s a good one…….x……. N

[onawah]

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(There are a few other sources for info re Starforts on youtube, a most fascinating subject! Dutchsinse has been getting into that subject recently and he is an excellent researcher, well known for his accurate earthquake predictions.)

[Raskolnikov]

Fascinating footage of old stuff. Only the other day I remarked that our current systems are sh!t compared to the same systems of a hundred years ago. Sure they were not perfect by any means. But in terms of logistics they outmatched us in so many ways.

For example, with all our technology and electronics and so called modern advancements, our postal system is far less superior than the Victorian postal system, at least in the US and Uk. Back then they had two posts a day including Saturday. By many measurable metrics that time seemed a pinnacle of human society.

Thanks for the post, as firsts go it’s a good one…….x……. N

Thanks Nasu. You know, actually, posting on this forum is a little intimidating and quite an honor. I woke up in 2008 thanks to Dolores Cannon, and really got into the Project Camelot interviews and have been visiting this site and reading the posts for over a decade, so if I forgot to say it in my intro, "Hi everyone, and thank you for all the great work you've been doing over the years. It's been great fire for the mind and food for the soul to find a site with such insightful, free, and truthful spirits. Stoked to be here and a part of it."

[Raskolnikov]

Crypto Alchemist is fairly new to me, but he is one of a group of nerdy people who are studying ancient archeology like starforts, pyramids, ancient technology and other arcane subjects, not limited by academic strictures, but including academic research.
Here are some of the their past and/or recent video discussions:
@dutchsinse & @burneye #RealScience 1st Meeting- Terraforming Talk + #tartaria #starfort #Alchemy
Crypto Alchemist
5.67K subscribers
8.2K views Streamed 1 month ago
lNHt6IAKoYM

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One & Only @DUTCHSINSE
Maybe they didn't even know each others existed due to shadowbanning
But @BurnEye is bring them together with @Xirtus for ssome #realScience"
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(There are a few other sources for info re Starforts on youtube, a most fascinating subject! Dutchsinse has been getting into that subject recently and he is an excellent researcher, well known for his accurate earthquake predictions.)

Wow, thanks onawah, looks like I've got some research to do. Appreciate your input and helpful leads.

[rgray222]

It is almost always too late once people realize that the magnificence is gone. Grand architecture is important to the human psyche and has been since the dawn of time. It has been quietly and systematically removed from society over the last few decades, especially in the west. There are a few wonderful buildings going up but they are few and far between. The majority of the creative and wonderful new architecture is coming out of China (https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration/collections/a-architecture-china/). There have been some grand efforts around the world that have fallen flat that will amount to nothing more than a flash in the pan when measured over hundreds of years such as Dubai, Abu Dhabi etc.

Grand architecture in the USA has been blatantly removed and it is very intentional. Most of the new government buildings resemble communist designs at their worst. It is sad but true.

To say that something is too expensive to do today is really code for we don't have the will, the desire, or the know-how. People have lost the belief that anything the mind can conceive the body can achieve.

Notre Dame Cathredral - Strasbourg, France
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4e/2b/b4/4e2bb4902c0f1ad7dfced8544be748c3.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting hour on starforts from Jay Weidner:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU1s97CRPXI

[Pam]

Welcome to the forum, I see you are interested in the ancient history of man and it's civilizations. You might find this site very interesting. It is a refreshing perspective of the historical record, the lies and deceptions and ultimately a possible explanation of the nature of our reality. The interesting thing about the chronology here is that it was obtained and interpreted by old books, without the biases of current culture and the internet. That is because the guy reading and interpreting the historical chronology was in a Texas Maximum security prison from the age of 17 till the year 2016. So that pulls him out of so much programming. (I can also see some of his prison culture programming coming out, so no one escapes programming) At least he did not have a lot of access to our current paradigms. The other thing, he had lots and lots of time to be without distraction or responsibilities to piece a bigger picture together.

In the prison system he had access to lots of old books and he began to piece together the chronological history of man, with the idea of confirming and supporting his belief in Christianity. He ended up drawing other conclusions, which was very disheartening for him. I believe you will find it fascinating even if you don't draw the same conclusions. I am not promoting or dismissing him in any way. What I will say, he is definitely one of the most independent thinkers I have ever listened to.

https://archaix.com

[Raskolnikov]

Thanks guys! Keep it coming! Fantastic photo rgray222. The more I research and discover, the more I become convinced that old cathedrals were power centers, or some kind of resonate energy generators. They had an excellent knowledge of cymatics and sacred geometry as seen in the windows and ancient patterns in the floors and walls and even in the architecture itself, especially the truly ancient ones. Even the star forts (I hate to call them forts because that lends to the military/war theory which is clearly bs), massive and mindbending structures that in some cases make up whole towns or villages, seem to attest to the energy resonator theory - war my ass - they were things of beauty and clearly had a purpose! And they are literally everywhere, more and more being found daily, while others have been covered up, turned into theme parks or golf courses, or outright destroyed. And thanks for the vid Bill, I love Jay Weidner's work. And thank you too Pam, great story about the guy in prison, wth else are you gonna do in such a place right? Besides plan a jail break of course! Great they had a decent library for him to work with. Love it, thanks guys.

[Raskolnikov]

An interesting hour on starforts from Jay Weidner:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU1s97CRPXI

Thanks for the video Bill. So many great insights btw these two and great shots of the stars (not forts) as well. The Auto didactic channel looks excellent as well, he seems very knowledgeable. A beautiful serendipitous moment at the end of the vid when I was perusing his other videos and Jay said, "And so everybody...check out Auto didactic channel on YouTube... if you got a snowy day - perfect to watch all of his videos." And lo and behold - it's a winter wonderland here today!

[onawah]

Dutchsinse has been looking at the planet and thinks there are starfort shapes that are actually continent sized, which definitely gives more reason to speculate about this paradigm we are living in as being a "simulation".
Hopefully his next conversation with Crypo Alchemist will be delving more into that.





(There are a few other sources for info re Starforts on youtube, a most fascinating subject! Dutchsinse has been getting into that subject recently and he is an excellent researcher, well known for his accurate earthquake predictions.)

Wow, thanks onawah, looks like I've got some research to do. Appreciate your input and helpful leads.

(BTW, when "Replying with Quote", it is best to delete videos etc. so they don't get posted repeatedly and unnecessarily on the forum, taking up a lot of space.)

[Raskolnikov]

Dutchsinse has been looking at the planet and thinks there are starfort shapes that are actually continent sized, which definitely gives more reason to speculate about this paradigm we are living in as being a "simulation".
Hopefully his next conversation with Crypo Alchemist will be delving more into that.





(There are a few other sources for info re Starforts on youtube, a most fascinating subject! Dutchsinse has been getting into that subject recently and he is an excellent researcher, well known for his accurate earthquake predictions.)

Wow, thanks onawah, looks like I've got some research to do. Appreciate your input and helpful leads.

(BTW, when "Replying with Quote", it is best to delete videos etc. so they don't get posted repeatedly and unnecessarily on the forum, taking up a lot of space.)

Yeah, thanks for the tip onawah, new to all this stuff, never been good with rules, made to be broken right? If I can figure out how to do that I most definitely will, not much of a tech nerd, more of a truth and big picture nerd, just like to get it out, like making music, love to play but don't have the patience for all the tech stuff in order to learn how to record, just want to create.

Like the Dutchsinse info about continent sized starforts, makes one want to think bigger about energy grids throughout the cosmos...

[onawah]

It's easy to do. After you click on "reply with quote" a box will open up with the post you want to reply to.
You just highlight the unnecessary part of that post and delete it, leaving the part that you are responding to, then add your reply at the top of that box.
There is a subforum with lots of tech info for the forum and it's pretty easy to negotiate:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?90-Forum-Technical-Q-A
And welcome to Avalon! :nod:




(BTW, when "Replying with Quote", it is best to delete videos etc. so they don't get posted repeatedly and unnecessarily on the forum, taking up a lot of space.)

Yeah, thanks for the tip onawah, new to all this stuff, never been good with rules, made to be broken right? If I can figure out how to do that I most definitely will, not much of a tech nerd, more of a truth and big picture nerd, just like to get it out, like making music, love to play but don't have the patience for all the tech stuff in order to learn how to record, just want to create.

[CurEus]

For those that plan on going down this rabbit hole useful search terms are Tartaria and Mudflood.

The premise being that

1. Our historical timeline has been altered by many hundreds of years
2. There was a global civilization whose architecture and technology has been co-opted for our use or destroyed by planned fires ( world fairs) major portions of cities, burried tunnel systems etc
3. Evidence is bountiful and most "notable" when one sees 1/2 buried windows in "histrical" buildings...that is the "mudflood" ( likely earth liquifaction) the buildings extend well below the surface throughout Europe and N. America and the same architectural style is also found in Asia. Constructed WELL before "Western" contact.
4. Massive transport of "orphans" to the "new world" to populate these cities via secret societies
5.. A lot of N. American capital cities were "empty" when "founded with enormous structures already in place with tiny settler populating living in shack being credited with the erection and construction of these extraordinary buildings, monuments, santiariums, "museums" and estate houses/mansions

It is a fun hypothesis and relatively novel especially if like me you're bored to tears with UAP "disclosure", Spaceforce, so researching an era that had flight, free electricity, was global in scope that is RIGHT under our noses and feet is fun.

Archaeologists are constantly stumbling across cities under cities with their argument being, well each civilization just built on top of the previous one....Okay, so how did they raise the street up 30 ft in the air and WHY do the stairs start 30 feet BELOW street level with windows........?

Many may NOT be aware but when on sanctioned digs archaeologists are only "allowed" to dig so deep...one cannot just go excavate 300 feet ona whim or a hunch. Some places like Italy or Greece, it is "expected" to "find" something even just digging a road or a trench BUT do NOT try that in Egypt. in the UK with the proposed stonehenge roadworks...there are certain to be surprises, but we won't learn about it. I'd turn the area into an open pit mine and still keep digging!

[Brigantia]

Thanks guys! Keep it coming!

If you would like a big archive of research you could take a look at Stolen History. I browse there but I'm not a member as I find it not as polite as PA, but don't let that put you off as it is an extensive resource. Here's a link to their starfort collection of threads.

https://stolenhistory.net/forums/general.72/

[Raskolnikov]

It is a fun hypothesis and relatively novel especially if like me you're bored to tears with UAP "disclosure", Spaceforce, so researching an era that had flight, free electricity, was global in scope that is RIGHT under our noses and feet is fun.

Agreed! The continued discovery of what our, in all likelihood, recent past contained is fascinating, more and more keeps coming to light like that great clip of the 1893 Chicago World's Fair in the "Realize what you lost" vid above. Old maps show Chicago as a central port when entering this continent from the Atlantic so it would make sense that they made the city magnificent.

Thanks for your more detailed summary of this topic. The orphan trains are indeed very strange, but if there was a reset then I guess they killed off a good many people. And what about the infant incubators that were apparently at many of these World Exhibitions and Fairs?

https://www.cosedamamme.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Infant-Incubators-building-at-1901-Pan-American-Exposition-600x444.jpg

And then there's the possibility that the numeral 1 at the beginning of 1950 or any other year in the the last millennium was in fact the letter i which stood for "the year of our lord" or something similar which points to 1000 years of fabrication and goes a long way to exposing the dark ages as a complete fabrication. So yes, like you, I find this subject fascinating and fun and truly appreciate your input. And yes, the military along with the Smithsonian and National Geographic and other federal institutions and organizations have had a huge hand in continually covering up all finds that don't jive with the narrative they desire. But it's coming brothers and sisters - an amazing time to be alive.

[Raskolnikov]

"The massive structures that go on for miles at the end was supposedly the 1893 Chicago World's Fair."

Quick correction of my first post - it appears those massive structures were from the Louisiana Purchase Exposition of 1904 in St. Louis, Missouri, also called the St. Louis World's Fair. The fair comprised more than 1,500 individual buildings interconnected by 75 miles of roads and walkways on a 1,200 acre tract. And of course the narrative says it only took three years to construct...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8_dloiMKd4

As an afterthought, the Statue of Liberty struck me as a metaphor for the hidden in plain sight slight of hand they love to employ to throw off the masses. A symbol of liberty to those escaping more oppressive governments, the statue quickly became the center of attention drawing the adoration of those hoping to begin a new life. But from a more elevated perspective, we begin to see a whole new picture that may in fact comprise many different civilizations, cultures and eras. It seems, as with all the old architecture being dug up and discovered today, the further down you go the older and more advanced things become. The base or pillar upon which the statue is placed is clearly from an older and more advanced civilization than the statue itself, even makes the statue appear like a cheap plaster knock off in comparison. Venture a bit further and the star fort it sits upon is quite possibly from an even older and more advanced civilization. And then if you want to take in the whole picture the entire thing is constructed upon a man-made island - and who had the know how and ability to build that? I find star forts truly amazing but compared with man-made islands, coastlines, and canals, it's no contest.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/WBtryqk9aWDKH1WupGBUj0MZRqk=/0x0:2000x1333/1200x800/filters:focal(840x507:1160x827)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/58407895/171109_08_33_19_5DS_0657.0.jpg

So are we in fact witnessing the cover up of multiple highly advanced civilizations by one cleverly deceptive distraction erected to pull our attention away from this fact? And then when you add that that statue is most likely a Babylonian deity whose motto was "if it feels good, do it" (sounds familiar) and a form of occult mockery, one has to wonder how deep this rabbit hole really goes.

[Raskolnikov]

Nice follow up to the first video. Something is fishy indeed...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd6GOkgX1SQ

[shaberon]

...could've gone under archeology and anthropology but I'm really interested in our lost history and the lies continually fed to us in our historical narrative.


That makes it a broader thesis.

One of the next things that comes to mind is the Flood Myth.

Well, the thing to it is that there was a Little Ice Age which ended around 10,000 years ago, which altered coastlines, so it is entirely possible that the Stairways of Malta were not built underwater.


To an extent, I stick to some of the basics and classics, such as Ignatius Donnelly's Atlantis, the Antediluvian World (https://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/ataw/index.htm):


Published in 1882, ATAW is one of the best constructed Atlantis theories, as it makes no recourse to occult or 'channeled' information. Donnelly's lucid style and command of the facts (such as they were) make the book readable and compelling even today....--JBH



And then--not taking anything too literally, but suggestive--are the Four Map Periods from W. Scott Elliot's Story of Atlantis (https://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/soa/index.htm):


https://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/soa/img/a01.jpg



https://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/soa/img/a02.jpg



https://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/soa/img/a03.jpg



https://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/soa/img/a04.jpg




What is interesting is that in the last one, what we call the Gobi Desert was an inland sea.

This matches geological study which indicates there was a time when Himalayan glacier melt contributed to something like a paradise.

Then through relatively recent history, everything dried out until the last significant settlement in Takla Makan dessicated around our year 600.

In Nepal we have the legend of Manjushri who is said to have split open the Chobhar Gorge and drain a lake and thereby make Kathmandu Valley inhabitable.

Geological studies indicate this was an event and that it was about 30,000 years ago.

Manjushri is from Wu Tai Shan which is Five Peak Mountain in China almost to the Mongolian border.

Is it possible this legend is 30,000 years old?


It is not hard to imagine ancient and very extensive routes of migration. The Denisovan which was found in Siberia is though to be generally unrelated to us, however, some New Guineans are up to 5% Denisovan.



There is probably a more concrete response about Dwarka (http://mahabharata-research.com/about%20the%20epic/the%20lost%20city%20of%20dwarka.html), city of Krishna:


Seals, inscriptions, which have been dated to 1500 BC.

Pottery, which have been dated to 3528 BC.

On the other hand explorations conducted in the Gulf of Cambay waters revealed sandstone walls, a grid of streets and some evidence of a sea port 70 feet under water, and artefacts dating back to 7500BC.

Eroded debris and pottery provided evidence of a port town destroyed by sea about 3,500 years ago.



The layout of the excavated city, the spread and the location of fort walls and bastions match the descriptions mentioned in Harivamsha, a prologue to Mahabharata. Harivamsha described the city of Dwarka in minute details. According to it, the area of Dwarka was 12 yojanas. It was connected to the mainland by a strip, which is visible even now, in low tide. The city excavated is of the same size.


Based on the correlation between the excavated structures and artefacts with the description of Dwarka in Harivamsha purana, and the fact that the carbon dating of artefacts fall around 3500BC, the same period concluded by many astronomical analysts as the period of the Mahabharata war and the submersion of Dwarka, it is more than reasonable to conclude that the excavated site near Bet Dwarka is indeed the legandary city of Dwarka.

The discovery of the second exploration at Gulf of Khambat proves that it was not just Dwarka that got submersed, but more costal regions got encroached by the sea over centuries, and the dating of artefacts to 7500BC indicates that the ancient indian civilization is more than 9000 years old, and the entire coastal regions has been going under sea from 9000BC, and this phenomenon took over the city of Dwarka by around 3500BC.



http://mahabharata-research.com/____impro/1/onewebmedia/dwaraka-www.radha_.name-Youtube.jpg?etag=W%2F%2228401-59aa9ff6%22&sourceContentType=image%2Fjpeg&ignoreAspectRatio&resize=695%2B391&extract=0%2B6%2B490%2B375&quality=85



And even more archaic, there is Adam's Bridge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%27s_Bridge):


During periods of lowered sea level over the last 100,000 years, Adam's Bridge has provided an intermittent land connection between India and Sri Lanka.

The ancient Sanskrit epic Ramayana mentions a bridge constructed by the god Rama to reach the island Lanka and rescue his wife Sita from Ravana.

Al-Biruni's Tārīkh al-Hind (c. 1030) was probably the first to use the name, Adam's Bridge. This appears to have been premised on the Islamic belief that Adam's Peak — where the biblical Adam fell to earth — is located in Sri Lanka, and that Adam crossed over to peninsular India via the bridge after his expulsion from the Garden of Eden.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/AdamsBridge02-NASA.jpg/480px-AdamsBridge02-NASA.jpg



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Adams_Bridge_aerial.jpg




In conjunction with the Map Periods, we could say:


Tectonic plate drift is not observable.

The plates may slip, horizontally, a few meters. What they are actually doing is moving up and down like pegs.

So the two older maps represent cataclysms, and then you get to Poseidonis and the Flood, which is just a minor cataclysm, this one being remembered in multiple cultures and traceable in several ways.


There is a smaller place that is almost as continuous:


The hilltop of Tell Baalbek, part of a valley to the east of the northern Beqaa Valley (Latin: Coelesyria), shows signs of almost continual habitation over the last 8–9000 years.


The Indian one is probably the genuine article. Matches the national epic. Do other places even have epics? I have forgotten how that works.

[Pam]

I can't help but wonder when our culture is reset and the archeologist of another times dig up one ugly McDonalds store with attached sign after another. One Starbucks after another. One Walmart after another. We are going to be the absolutely most boring, least satisfying cultural revelation of all time. No matter how many cultures and eras have occurred here.

[onawah]

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[Ratszinger]

The guys in the secret handshake club are the gatekeepers. They block real discovery all the time. They are literally involved in every institution at the highest levels, and in the highest levels of gov. and education and media and leadership of the world. Only they know the truth. Even Mario Biglino says there are two bibles the one for the 'Inclass' of the elite that wrote the one for us for the outclass of peoples, which is the majority of what they consider to be serfs and cannon fodder for their wars. All of these leadership or chair positions encompass the world. They use only deviants for their other positions of gov. like the presidents and elected that come and go regularly. While they may not be members of the club of 300 or committee of 300 they do join other secret groups to be gathered in for the situations where instructions and orders must be given for the elite class. They love using deviants like Bill Clinton and more because their own deviant behavior which they have holding over each of them is what they use to control them for whatever they want in the way of favors, politically, diplomatically or finacially or military it doesn't matter. The people they select and place have to be someone they can control and if they cannot? Well, they react like theyd id with Trump, an outsider that used to be an insider apparently but has ignored their control mechanisms which is why they punish him now. This is much the same as when they punished Bill Clinton with Lewinski and that scandal. It will knock them in the head to either make them follow their orders or they'll bury them. They currently kill masses with numerous techniques including the mRNA vaccination that isn't a vax. It's what they've always done and unless the sheep waken they have no intention of changing course.

[shaberon]

Only they know the truth


That's a lot of credit.

I am quite skeptical that any of "those people" know much of anything in particular. Have they heard of Dwarka?

[Ratszinger]

There seems to be quite a bit of interesting history erased on Tartary or Tartaria and that civilization that spans from China to the new world and I found this map this guy here found quite compelling. Lewis & Clark used it to explore the USA and well, this is a short but sweet intro to two more videos behind it that are even longer and better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hel-FeKMkIc&t=9s

[Johnnycomelately]

Yeah, good question. Not a good look, to get all excited about it/something and not (?) know that. I am not excited by what Mr. R. is describing, and I appreciate your coolness too, but what are you talking about?



Only they know the truth


That's a lot of credit.

I am quite skeptical that any of "those people" know much of anything in particular. Have they heard of Dwarka?

[Raskolnikov]

Wow, thanks all, nice to see all the great input. Playing a little catch up, went off grid over the weekend, and when i say off grid I mean a trip to Portland, Oregon, don't have a phone, don't want one, so a trip to the city is me going off grid. What a sh!thole, we were immediately greeted by homeless smoking crack and shooting up on the streets upon entering - couldn't have asked for a warmer welcome, the city that spares no expense. Last time we do that. 80th bday party, had to be there, dad turning 89 and jabs are killing him, heart working at 35%, so maddening, but I'm sure you know how that goes, we all know someone who's been effected, already killed my mother, never had a problem with blood clots before...

Sorry, getting off topic, but it's infuriating, especially when you tried to tell them and they wouldn't listen and then you have to watch them die.

But thank you all for the great info. The more I dig the more ludicrous the narrative becomes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXIXljqXrjQ

[shaberon]

what are you talking about?


I put Dwarka in the middle of post 21 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120712-The-Old-World-who-built-those-magnificent-structures-found-everywhere&p=1548034&viewfull=1#post1548034).

Not much mystery there, it matched written descriptions from ancient traditions, and most modern techniques such as carbon dating verify it.

Although India has schisms, atheists, and others who don't care, somewhere behind it all is unbroken continuity which is easily ten, maybe thirty thousand years old. "Primitive" habitation is at least a million years old, although I won't jump to the conclusion that massive stoneworks or weird technology like flying machines are that old. Varies by what "Atlantis myth" you favor.

Point being in the ca. 10,000 year range, there is no shortage of evidence of a Flood, at least in terms of coastlines, and, at least in India, knowledge about it. Sumerian and Egyptian cultures, although exhibiting signs of phenomenal age, do not have continuity of knowledge. The closest would be that after the founding of Cairo, ca. year 900, it had gathered up all the gnostics, but, with further regime changes, these migrated to the northeast, joining with their kindred in a society we now call Druze.

Most European Freemasons wish they had something to do with the Druze; the Shriners organization especially mimics their appearance. However it is a closed society. They don't talk about everything, and you cannot possibly join it in any way whatsoever.

There is precious little continuity anywhere in the world. The other day I saw an article about a Russian expedition to Chad, which was excavating the remains of a mid-sized society which is believed to have flourished ca. 600-1600. Nothing is known about it. In Europe, it should be obvious that starting even in the early years of existence, knowledge has been collected and stored in The Vatican. As to whether any of that would be particularly useful to us, or, to some guy who slips off to secretly use it, is difficult to determine. But they keep everything. They censor pornography by collecting it, and then someone has to review what is so "bad" about it so they can make edicts on how to repress. Then you can have things like Hitler's Family Values.

Knowledges are like Alchemy, mostly coded. Shakespeare invented nothing when the witches were working with "Eye of Newt" and so forth. There is a story of a guy in India "pre-buying" a particular peacock from a farmer. The peacock grew and when he came to pick it up, the curious farmer asked what it was for. The guy said he needed "neck of peacock" for a chemical or battery or something. The farmer just laughed and said it means copper sulfate.

[Raskolnikov]

For anyone who missed the video which inspired this thread, I am reinserting it both here and in the original post. It disappeared for quite some time but has finally resurfaced. Enjoy if you haven't seen it yet. Our past is so much more glorious than we've been led to believe - and so is our future...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V0-5KAjbm4

[Pam]

For anyone who missed the video which inspired this thread, I am reinserting it both here and in the original post. It disappeared for quite some time but has finally resurfaced. Enjoy if you haven't seen it yet. Our past is so much more glorious than we've been led to believe - and so is our future...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V0-5KAjbm4

I rewatched this video this morning. The person that presented this video has 7 likes and almost 900 subscribers. I am surprised that there is not a huge interest in this. The title of the video is really touching. "Realize what you lost". I have been doing a deep dive into these magnificent buildings and the narratives presented regarding their destruction and building. The stories about how they were built and their eventual demise are ridiculous. The end of the video is especially touching when he shows the magnificent old building and the crap building that replaced it.

There are so many channels, some very obscure with few subscribers that look into specific angles. Some focus on "ruins" that show the very similar melting process that is becoming more and more familiar as we have experienced in Maui and Paradise. Just the same look. Ancient and or obscure books that describe the fire in the sky periodically causing massive destruction. Others focus on the absurdity of the narratives of the building and demise of many of these structures.

The absurdity of the fires burning through cities and the reasons for them, such as a cow kicking over a lamp allegedly causing the great San Francisco fire. I am embarrassed to admit that I bought that story without a second thought. I could go on and on, but there are a group of people that study and visit these sites and tear apart the narratives.

Why on earth would we humans decide to destroy these incredible structures so we could throw together shanties, cabins, all sorts of inferior structures? Why would those decisions be made world wide? Yes, some were left and turned into capitol buildings, churches, palaces of the very wealthy and powerful, and interestingly insane asylums but it was necessary to only leave enough to make them seem like rare architectural oddities not part of a magnificent culture that created beauty and yet valued the natural world at the same time.

There was a coordinated effort to make this age, or era, the one that we are in, that would bring AI out into the culture in a new form, ugly and angular in defiance of the natural world. There was effort and long term coordination that brought this age to the place where we are right now.

That is how a coordinated effort to destroy any definitive evidence of the other eras is to this day ongoing. The exceptions being evidence that can be manipulated into the false historical story line. In the US all skeletal remains of giants seemed to go to the Smithsonian only to disappear.

It appears that this worldwide population that created the culture, most likely the Tartarian culture that valued beauty and had a much more harmonious relationship with earth simply vanished? We have all sorts of evidence of huge amounts of children without parents. Children being exploited for labor, the orphan trains and much more. What happened to the adults?

We have a bunch of excess kids, enough to have babies in incubators on display at the Chicago Worlds Fair and a culture that seems to just appear that doesn't seem to know anything about the previous, grander culture? One that in many cases seemed to have buildings for people or beings much larger than we are.

I understand that there have been organic resets. The Deluge, the mudfloods, which were probably liquification of the earth surface and more, but those would not explain how it appears that all of a sudden we have a new clueless set of humans and a bunch of extra kids with no parents. Clueless humans that agree to destroy structures like those of the Chicago Worlds Fair. Not only tear it down but get rid of all the stone and residue that would be left over. Think of the effort and expense involved in that.

I know I am jumping over a bunch of topics that each deserve much more attention, but as I realize the level of deception we live in, some things still don't make sense. Does anyone have a decent explanation of what happened to the ones that lived in and created these buildings? Not the absurd narratives of some obscure person whipping up a masterpiece in a year or two only to have it torn down later or fall victim to a mysterious fire? Yep, stone structures burning down, seemed to be pretty common back in the day.

If anyone has a good theory or could direct me to answers that at least make some sort of sense I would appreciate it.

I will make a list of several obscure channels on youtube that deal with different aspects of this and add them to this thread for anyone interested.

This is a great thread that means a bunch more to me now that I am researching it in far greater detail. Thanks R.

[Raskolnikov]

I have the same questions Pam, thanks for the great feedback. I lived in SF for two decades and never heard the story of the "cow kicking over a lamp" to start the great fire. That is so absurd it's both laughable and a slap in the face at the same time, as if they're mocking us. These buildings are all over the world and appear to have been destroyed in nearly identifical fashion, which they of course call fires. Look more like bombings to me, similar to Hiroshima and Dresden. Fires can't do that to stone, more absurdity. Unless, of course, we're talking about the "fires" of Paradise and Maui.

The old photos of these buildings definitely show humans looking very out of place and unsure what to do with their fantastic new surroundings, structures clearly not built for we tiny little humans. It does make one think of great "giant holocaust" brought to you by the Smithsonian in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. They've got their gatekeepers in all positions of power to protect, distract, cover-up, destroy, whatever it takes to keep their false narrative alive.

Btw, just to be clear on that video, the buildings at the end are from the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair. St. Louis, Missouri! Looks like the depictions of heaven from many of the fundamentalist Christian books or what ancient Greece was supposed to have looked like. And yet here in American little more than 100 years ago.

As far as the reason for wiping it out, you can't control people with unlimited energy and intellect, which the builders and inhabitants of those buildings obviously had. Sacred geometry and resonate generators, which I think most of those buildings were, in abundance. The before and after pictures say it all. Surrounded by beauty and architecture which multiplies and enhances the powers of nature and the universe, the human potential would be unbounded and unstoppable. Hence, they destroy and stop it.

The narrative is absurd, and yet very few have ever questioned it. Even me in SF for 20 years. I was so distracted chasing both my tail and others, haha, that I never gave it a second thought. But I do now. And many more continue to do so as well.

Thanks again for the great feedback and keep it coming!

[Pam]

I have the same questions Pam, thanks for the great feedback. I lived in SF for two decades and never heard the story of the "cow kicking over a lamp" to start the great fire. That is so absurd it's both laughable and a slap in the face at the same time, as if they're mocking us. These buildings are all over the world and appear to have been destroyed in nearly identifical fashion, which they of course call fires. Look more like bombings to me, similar to Hiroshima and Leipzig. Fires can't do that to stone, more absurdity. Unless, of course, we're talking about the "fires" of Paradise and Maui.

The old photos of these buildings definitely show humans looking very out of place and unsure what to do with their fantastic new surroundings, structures clearly not built for we tiny little humans. It does make one think of great "giant holocaust" brought to you by the Smithsonian in the late 18th/early 19th centuries. They've got their gatekeepers in all positions of power to protect, distract, cover-up, destroy, whatever it takes to keep their false narrative alive.

Btw, just to be clear on that video, the buildings at the end are from the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair. St. Louis, Missouri! Looks like the depictions of heaven from many of the fundamentalist Christian books or what ancient Greece was supposed to have looked like. And yet here in American little more than 100 years ago.

As far as the reason for wiping it out, you can't control people with unlimited energy and intellect, which the builders and inhabitants of those buildings obviously had. Sacred geometry and resonate generators, which I think most of those buildings were, in abundance. The before and after pictures say it all. Surrounded by beauty and architecture which multiplies and enhances the powers of nature and the universe, the human potential would be unbounded and unstoppable. Hence, they destroy and stop it.

The narrative is absurd, and yet very few have ever questioned it. Even me in SF for 20 years. I was so distracted chasing both my tail and others, haha, that I never gave it a second thought. But I do now. And many more continue to do so as well.

Thanks again for the great feedback and keep it coming!

First of all I will share 3 of the more popular channels:


Mylunchbreak
https://www.youtube.com/@Mylunchbreak

JonLevi

https://www.youtube.com/channel

Divergent
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Here are just a a few of the channels, these are more popular. If there is any interest I will dig around for the unsung hero's that do this investigation for the sheer love of it, regardless of how many viewers.

JonLevi is eclectic in his approach to this information, plus his voice is incredibly relaxing and the guy is just lovable.
Mylunchbreak really delves into the absurdity of the narratives and he does it in detail.He also reminds of what type of tools would be available during that time line if the narrative was accurate.

Divergent is quite broad spectrum in his research approach and ventures a bit further than the building structures.

I find this mystery so frigging fascinating. I went through that stage of kicking myself for buying this stuff, but the truth is I never looked at it as a topic. If I hear one narrative that is ridiculous I am not as likely to notice. When someone grabs your attention and compares and contrasts and one comes to realize that these building were abundant in the US when we weren't supposed to have them everything starts crumbling.

R, you also brought out the little people in contrast to the buildings. That is absolutely insane. Who is going to go to the trouble to make 50 foot archways for a building for people that are tall at 6 ft. The other thing in so many of these pictures, when you scrutinize them they are never really building anything. They may have scaffolding up but you never see the actual real construction. Most of the people look staged in so many of these photos.

It's one of those things that once your eyes are opened it opens the old perverbial can of worms. (I don't have any idea where that old saying popped into my head from lol) I could literally sit down all day and write out questions that I now have.

I absolutely agree, those buildings were loaded with I think they call it antiquitech.
JonLevi did a video today of which he just showed city halls, as they seem have been a good enough reason not to destroy some of them and there is one building in Belgium, I believe that is loaded with the spires. Of course the remaining buildings have conveniently had those spires removed.

When I was a little kid my favorite move was "The wizard of Oz". There is a short scene of a lightning rod salesman that traveled from farm to farm selling lightning rods that remind me of the spires on these magnificent buildings. That was my dream job. I was going to become a lightning rod salesman, walking from farm to farm. I still have a huge attraction to them.

Anyway, I hope others might join in this is a fascinating subject. It definitely is a study that creates few answers and promotes many questions but I find it endlessly fascinating.

When you see a bunch of these architectural wonders and how beautifully they harmonize with the planet, energy would be abundant and free, what a world that must have been. And it was torn down for strip malls, 7-11's, McDonalds and more. Those people seemed to have some form of what we call AI but it was harmonious not the mess we are creating.



You like the cow kicking over a kerosine lamp and burning down a brick and stone city like it was dry wood kindling. In my neck of the woods, Seattle was supposedly totally destroyed by a pot of glue catching on fire!!!

I agree there is a huge element of mockery in this.

[ErtheVessel]

Just wanted to clarify that the cow kicking over the kerosene lamp that burned down a city was Chicago, not San Francisco. I grew up as a child in the US midwest, and this was presented as a true story which we learned in elementary school. Yes, I agree, though, that it seems unlikely.

Perhaps it is slightly off topic, but I wanted to add that these remarkable structures in this thread were built without power tools. My father built the house that I grew up in, back in the mid 1950s. He cleared the land and built the house completely without power tools (as all buildings were back then). Electric power tools did not exist. There were no chain saws to cut down trees, he used an axe or a cross-cut hand saw. There was nothing to clear the brush but a scythe. All boards were measured by hand and cut with a hand saw. Every single nail was pounded in with a hammer by hand. All holes were drilled with a hand drill. He used a hand held wood planer to shape wood.

He had some help from male friends and relatives (and he worked his regular job during the week so could only build on weekends), but it took him over a year and a half.

He is no longer alive so I cannot question him further on this, but as a child I watched him build many things and use all these tools. I can still smell the fragrance of wood as he drilled holes or sawed boards, all by hand. The wood would smell warm because of the heat of the friction of sawing and the hand drill created the most wonderful curling bits of wood as it turned. And I still have all these hand tools he used all those years ago and treasure them immensely.

So the mystery of the "old world" is even more remarkable to me when you consider the tools that must have been used, especially with the more "modern" World's Fair constructions, which are recent enough that we know what kinds of tools would probably have been available to them.

I also have to remark that we have lost much by relying so much on technology. My father was extremely skilled and exacting, and it appeared to me he could detect a one-hundredth of an inch variance both visually and by use of his hands and fingers, in anything he was building. I don't think that skill was terribly unusual at the time. There are very few true craftsmen left in the world (at least the western world) and we have lost much of our innate capacities as humans for remarkable and exacting craftsmanship by succumbing to the ease, convenience and allure of technological tools.

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[Pam]

ErthVessel, I stand corrected. The massive destruction of many of the old world buildings in San Francisco and shanties as well was due to gross negligence. There were multiple fires. The first was blamed on a earthquake then the multiple fires due to people living in shanties tipping over their kerosine lamps or letting fires get out of hand

Thank you for the wonderful description of your dads work on the family home. That is the reality. Hard enough, when building a wood structure and it required a great work ethic and diligence. Now imagine building these dome shape stone structures with statues with multiple steeples and crazy detail. Add the detail that those items would be transported by horses. Where would you find locals that could do that. Where do you get the stone, the horses? How do you transport it?

Some of these beautiful buildings have been overlayed with plain brick and some have had much of the detail removed, such as the sculptures.

[Raskolnikov]

This is an excellent documentary on things discussed in this thread in case anyone missed it. It came out on Stew Peters Network on May 29, 2024.

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From the description:

"Our history has been fabricated. The official narrative is that in the mid 1800's - early 1900's, men riding horse and buggy (or prisoners) built thousands of GIANT stone and marble structures (what's left of them anyways) and the official timeline of our recent past, does not match our reality. Our Rockefeller "his-story" books are pure fabrication. They teach us the "Great Chicago Fire" in school, but never tell us every major city was burned to the ground. Also, the civilization before us had amazing technology and were beyond advanced. There has been a massive cover-up."