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ozmirage
1st April 2023, 15:59
MONEY MADNESS AND SOCIALISM.

To run the “Grand Scam” and get cooperative serfs and vassals, you only need persuade them to embrace insanity. The foundation of that insanity is money. Take precious metal coin. Pursuant to the US CON, only Congress can coin money (stamp bullion) or borrow money. Since it cannot create bullion, Congress cannot create money. (Paper currency is actually debt - an IOU - denominated in coin)

Once a people are indoctrinated properly, the so-called moralistic argument for socialism (public charity) can be perpetrated.
Why? Because it is based on the insanity of money madness.

Under money madness, there are only three ways to acquire the necessary money tokens:
__ Trade (goods, labor)
__ Charity (public, private)
__ Crime (depredation, etc)

When government taxation of labor penalizes hiring labor, it drives employers to downsize (or go out of business). The result : a growing unemployed class that can’t find replacement jobs, and as they exhaust private charity, their only option is a life of crime - or public charity, saith the proponents of benevolent collectivism. However, slavery is not a viable remedy to the ills of mankind.

The root of the problem is money madness - the belief that money has value independent of the marketplace of goods and services. Remember, the function of any medium of exchange is to pass value to a future trade, when simple barter is insufficient. An example of a sane medium is a coupon - let’s say for one Micky D burger. When tendered, the customer receives a burger, and the coupon no longer has any value, having performed its purpose and can be destroyed.

But with money madness, no one would be so foolish as to destroy money after a trade. So how did the money token “pass value” and “retain value” simultaneously?

After all trades are done, and the marketplace is empty, what “value” does all that money have? Does the value automagically reappear on the next day’s market? And if there was nothing in the marketplace, what “value” does the money retain? What happens if the opposite occurs? If there is much more available in the marketplace, far in excess of the money token supply, sellers can’t find buyers with enough money! (Which can happen when money is ‘hoarded’ and not used to facilitate trade.)

In operation, any money token system based upon scarcity and finite quantity relies on high demand for credit, at usury, which enriches the masters of money. They, in turn, strangle trade by the money drought. As they skim immense fortunes, they get disproportionately richer. All the while, there’s unmet need, unemployment, underemployment, closed factories, and unused capacity all because poverty is caused by money madness.

Ironically, the socialist taxes on labor and business migrate to the retail price causing inexplicable inflation. Where else to companies and employees get the money to pay their taxes if not from the consumer? And all the while this tax-shift inflation goes on, the eCONomists are claiming that inflation is caused by “too much money chasing too few goods.” (Suppressed exclamation of derision deleted).

Fourth Way

What the collectivists and usurers never wish you to consider is the fourth way to enable trade - issue your own medium of exchange. Your private promissory note (i.e. coupon), denominated in what you can do or have, is a perfectly acceptable medium of exchange to facilitate trade when barter is insufficient.

Any laborer or business can emit the means by which their customers can trade for their labor and production. This would destroy the usurers and collectivists, for when no one needs to beg for credit or public charity, who needs them?

In a sane world, it would be quite obvious that money or any medium of exchange is not wealth. Prosperity is based on prodigious production of surplus usable goods and services, equitably traded. If all trades were barter, what medium of exchange would be needed? How can you account for such trades? How would you determine who is wealthy? Who is truly poor, when money doesn’t matter?

Remember, poverty is caused by money. If money was the remedy, and wealth redistribution was the answer, simply give everyone 22 billion billion quatloos, so no one “needs” money ever again. Equality of wealth! But when no one “needs” more money, no one would make an effort or offer something for sale. Why bother? Everyone has all the money they need. Suddenly, all that wealth is worthless, useless, and meaningless. Even the starving children are fabulously wealthy.

The scam of money madness requires the masses to accept that they NEED more money and as much as possible, while the masters keep the value and volume far below what the marketplace needs to facilitate equitable trade. Thus people are compelled to labor and trade, because they NEED money. So what if the workers and business owners are cheated, and others are pushed into poverty and misery? Or that many are pushed into a life of crime by desperation.

People who can make their own medium, and cease NEEDING official money, effectively cut out the three parasites : governments, bankers, and collectivists. Liberty* money (*because it is an endowed right) effectively destroys the collectivist - usurer alliance that currently operates governments world - wide.

Student Exercise:
Look up the process by which new paper currency is authorized, and how much usury is involved.

ozmirage
1st April 2023, 23:12
In case you weren't aware, the sovereign American people always had the power to create LIBERTY MONEY, aka private promissory notes, aka "coupons" (cash value = 1/20 cent).
Since the "trigger point" for government interest is the 7th amendment (where the controversy has to exceed 20 dollars - silver or gold), it would take 40,001 coupons, or more. And since coupons are denominated in goods and or services, not money (lawful or otherwise) they are NOT a government privilege subject to an excise tax (sales tax) nor come under the purview of the Eye Are Us.

Of course, the holder of said money has to trust the emitter, to honor his obligation. This also means that unscrupulous emitters of coupons soon gain a bad reputation, and can no longer participate in the "Money - less" economy.

BUT in cash-strapped communities, folks could restart their economic engines by using private promissory notes (or other accounting means) to facilitate trade when barter is insufficient.

In reality, prosperity is not based on money tokens or even precious metal or jewels. Prosperity is based on prodigious production of surplus usable goods and services, equitably traded and enjoyed.
Doing more with less so more can enjoy is superior to doing less with more so few can enjoy.

ozmirage
1st April 2023, 23:19
What could be wrong with compulsory charity (slavery) and confiscation of surplus (theft by government) - aka 'socialism'?
Voluntary charity is a blessing
Compulsory charity is a curse

Everyone likes to be the recipient - no one wants to be the donor.
Even folks with half a brain will seek to become "approved" for public charity and cease being productive.

Confiscation of surplus eventually collapses the society. Why bother to work harder when the results are confiscated?
The end result is less surplus and eventual scarcity - though equitably distributed to the (m)asses... excluding the magnanimous management.

Oh, and let us not forget that ever higher socialist taxes drive women into the workforce. Which means that the birthrate plummets, and the cost for childcare becomes a huge burden. What could be wrong with genocide?


Slavery, Theft and Genocide - what a great system !

ozmirage
2nd April 2023, 23:49
QUICK RECAP . . . MONEY MADNESS . . . the belief that money has intrinsic value independent of the marketplace, combined with the fact that money is always SCARCE, FINITE and in DEMAND... THROTTLES trade. If you don't have the money, you can't buy the honey.

Don't feel too bad, the whole system is corrupted by money madness. Every eCONomist, academically trained or not, is shilling for the masters of money. No one takes the effort to "run the numbers" to realize that usury is mathematically unsustainable in a finite money token system. (See: "Future Worth" equations, especially compound interest)

One of the "funniest" things I saw reported by "reputable" scientists and engineers, was the "cash value" of asteroids. NASA press releases are side busters.
Some have estimated the economic worth of the asteroids in the trillions and quadrillions of "dollar bills."
http://www.asterank.com/ (https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asterank.com%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR2Q8d2a6soFcgx8q8cT6vS7csJA2pVdMB2rJSJnsoeHyb gIfl5eykhfJV4&h=AT1bzdDx3jaTxmsM6mQ9smVyaYqsgjvwTGiW_EVTa8P3edodE1-YLOg2QMgk-Xuj87whOP3xY0_rhL6QnB8nZkhPlaG-RDm6eyIooH6K8IW8SKdh0ip8aaV9krhHgc3Hcg&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT1T1kcA08kYkryT5q_rrCVZ-IIcAsRLX-KcBfyFlS0SW4IqsHIuVqROEDEQxhzsfE3hLNHwUTopRiQ-bOxT4Q6iFnDm3BaA9PDMqAXIYGG9xoKh4ZT7KRZ1XatGK6nGqaRUKjj01oEtXgGmc8eqL_j33JFWWL6CN1gdOHytSS31uN1ilNqR _NHT3QKZB_dUR30bgVACBkjFYO5nkVi5aG0)

As of March 2023, the total amount of circulating medium is 2.3 trillion and since all dollar bills are debt, they can never exceed the current national debt* (31 trillions).

So how can one "value" an asteroid as worth 1,000 trillion dollars, when the dollars do not exist?
ANS: MONEY MADNESS.

Now, if a consortium of the ten richest billionaires walked into "BIG BANKS R US" and said, we'd like to borrow 4 trillion dollar bills to fund asteroid mining, and reap quadrillions, guess what?
You cannot borrow that which does not exist!
So how can you measure wealth in something that does not exist?
Barking mad?

UNTIL the laborers and businesses can create the medium of exchange used to trade their surplus, they're VICTIMS of the money powers who rule this planet.

: : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h41/current/ (https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h41/current/?fbclid=IwAR2Q8d2a6soFcgx8q8cT6vS7csJA2pVdMB2rJSJnsoeHybgIfl5eykhfJV4)
Search report for “currency in circulation”
https://usdebtclock.org/ (https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fusdebtclock.org%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR2BtvAlJc8Crk-sPqFoXUmF08M90m9Vrk7676_olKuaIDLwgsymCw_lQpk&h=AT2jVLZ2lfVJ1Au93W6WrQoGEL-KqPvajRkRyxcDUrmRcs8uW7bxEst6lYTUu6L8Yje7pl7w8nHLmy3Ff3z_kmqXlOpGQC9ZNxMg08jk-6WyKHDTsOQqN8eDORzrJ2oebQ&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT1T1kcA08kYkryT5q_rrCVZ-IIcAsRLX-KcBfyFlS0SW4IqsHIuVqROEDEQxhzsfE3hLNHwUTopRiQ-bOxT4Q6iFnDm3BaA9PDMqAXIYGG9xoKh4ZT7KRZ1XatGK6nGqaRUKjj01oEtXgGmc8eqL_j33JFWWL6CN1gdOHytSS31uN1ilNqR _NHT3QKZB_dUR30bgVACBkjFYO5nkVi5aG0)
National Debt : $31.613 trillion; March 2023

ozmirage
2nd April 2023, 23:58
TIME TO DESTROY
{Numerical proof that exposes eCONomists and eCONomics as a giant scam}

Future Worth (FV), based on Present Value (PV)
FV = PV x (1+ interest)^time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_value

Computing for an investment of 10% of the money supply, invested at stated interest, compounded daily, how long does it take for the aggregate obligation (principal and interest) to exceed the whole set of money tokens (money supply):

Interest . . Days . . . Years
1% . . . 84045.5 . . . 230.3
2% . . . 42023.3 . . . 115.1
3% . . . 28015.9 . . . 76.8
4% . . . 21012.2 . . . 57.6
5% . . . 16810.0 . . . 46.1
6% . . . 14008.5 . . . 38.4
7% . . . 12007.5 . . . 32.9
8% . . . 10506.7 . . . 28.8
9% . . . . 9339.4 . . . 25.6
10% . . . 8405.6 . . . 23.0
11% . . . 7641.5 . . . 20.9
12% . . . 7004.8 . . . 19.2
13% . . . 6466.1 . . . 17.7
14% . . . 6004.3 . . . 16.5
15% . . . 5604.1 . . . 15.4
16% . . . 5253.9 . . . 14.4
17% . . . 4944.9 . . . 13.5
18% . . . 4670.3 . . . 12.8
19% . . . 4424.5 . . . 12.1

No matter how much is invested, or how large the money pool, there is a finite point in time when the aggregate obligation of principal and interest will exceed the whole sum of money tokens in existence. A portion of debtors must default, and lose their pledged collateral simply because there never is ENOUGH MONEY TOKENS for everyone to pay their debts.
This is the reason why usury was, is and ever shall be an abomination, a scourge upon civilization, and condemned by all religions, philosophies, and wise men.

And yet BILLIONS embrace this viper, and are amazed when it sinks its fangs into them.

ozmirage
3rd April 2023, 00:03
TL,DR:
Socialism is persuasive only when there is money madness. And usury can only operate when there is money madness. In short, money truly is the ROOT OF ALL EVIL.

thepainterdoug
3rd April 2023, 00:50
The Real Cuba/ socialism = no thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwddya2p61g --

ozmirage
3rd April 2023, 01:34
How to fool “Big Dummy”
("The Sheeple")

*All must be trained to ‘need’ money and embrace usury (interest)
*Can’t be independent, self reliant, or self sufficient
*Can’t tolerate any religion that teaches “Thou Shalt Not Steal - even if it’s the government doing it.”
*Deny the existence of Creator endowed rights, liberties, powers, and immunities as well as the republican form of government. Only accept democratic government granted ‘human rights’ and mandatory duties of citizenship.

Only then will the (m)asses demand to be enslaved for ‘security’ and ‘convenience’ trusting that the glorious collective will care for them, from cradle to grave.
Thanks to compulsory charity and confiscation of surplus, ‘everyone’ will share in poverty, except the glorious leadership (of course).


You can't dominate someone who's self sufficient. You can only dominate when you have something that someone else needs.
- - - Anonymous

"If America could be, once again, a nation of self-reliant farmers, craftsmen, hunters, ranchers, and artists, then the rich would have little power to dominate others. Neither to serve nor to rule: That was the American dream."
- - - Edward Abbey

IF YOU DON’T OWE TAXES, YOU DON’T NEED THEIR MONEY.
* no endowed right, liberty or private property is taxable.

IF YOU ARE A SELF SUFFICIENT PROPERTY OWNER, YOU DON’T NEED PUBLIC CHARITY.
* Real Estate and private property are mutually exclusive. The latter is constitutionally protected - the former is regulated and taxed. Were you tricked into believing that "all land" is real estate?

ozmirage
3rd April 2023, 01:44
[Sheepish look flag on] I was in my late 30's when I realized that USURY (any interest - not just excessive interest) was impossible to pay in a finite money token system. And I had been educated to "understand" modern Engineering eCONomics, and had spent many happy years writing software that calculated time value of money (annuities, mortgages, etc) and other tax related computations based on interest.

Once I took off the blinders, and started searches on "who" condemned usury, found out that usurers have been condemned for "only" 3500 years, proscribed by ALL religions (that I checked), and was mathematically unsustainable in a finite money token system. Due in part to the exponential equation used for compound interest, an infinite money supply is needed to operate over the long term.

In short, usury was wicked, evil, mean and nasty, and anyone who embraces usury cannot be a member in good standing in any religion that forbids it.
Talk about a "burn!"

(While watching an old version of "A Tale of Two Cities," the English servant snarks, "All bankers are atheists...." YUP. Dats a fact. In Dante's Divine Comedy, usurers are relegated to the lowest level of Inferno. BUT NOW, through the magic of propaganda, usurers (bankers) can have angels come down from heaven to help them. Remember "It's a Wonderful Life"? D'oh!)

ozmirage
3rd April 2023, 01:58
THE CURE
You know you’re cured of money madness when you realize
• Why parents care for children - without pay;
• Why adult children care for their parents - without pay;
• Why religious renunciants devote a lifetime of labor in service to their fellow men without material reward;
• Why families come to the aid of their kinfolk, without expecting remuneration;
• Why gardeners share their surplus with their neighbors, without charging a fee;
• Why communities cooperate and have barn raisings and house raisings for their members;
• Why civilization depends upon our labors, amplified by tools, machines, and technology to fashion resources into useable goods and services - not upon the accumulation of scarce money tokens, nor the whips of overseers.
You know you’re cured of money madness when you realize that money is not prosperity, but a medium of exchange to facilitate trade. Money is an illusion of value. Money token value has never been proportional to the whole set of available goods and services, nor can the tokens grow at the same rate. In fact, there is no connection between the value of the marketplace and the volume of money tokens - which remain after all trades are completed.

The reality is the marketplace, filled with goods and services for trade and enjoyment. Prosperity is the prodigious production, equitable trade, and enjoyment of surplus usable goods and services. Doing more, with less, so more can enjoy is the recipe for building happiness. Doing less, with more, so few can enjoy is the recipe for misery. And confiscating another’s surplus for compulsory charity is a curse.

There will come a day when the sane and productive people will take control over their civilization, emitting money tokens in proportion with the goods and services available for trade (when barter is insufficient) - and extinguishing those tokens when the trade completes. Everything available to be “bought” has the means to “buy” it, in circulation.

They will no longer be hostage to a scarce and finite money token system, preyed upon by politicians, usurers and predators, who are masters of money madness.

Nor will they tolerate the collectivist slavers who glibly argue for compulsory charity, under their magnanimous administration.

The following link is to a science fiction story that highlights some aspects similar to a republican form and liberty money (private promissory notes), but erroneously links it to anarchy and civil disobedience.

“And Then There Were None”
http://www.abelard.org/e-f-russell.php
"They have a peculiar, moneyless economic system which, in my opinion, manages to function only because it is afflicted with large surpluses."

What do you think is real prosperity?
_ _ A mountain of money tokens, or
_ _ A large surplus of valuable goods and services.

And if stranded upon a desert island, which of the two would you prefer?

Vicus
3rd April 2023, 16:23
The Real Cuba/ socialism = no thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwddya2p61g --

Well, shortage of everything isn't Govern make, but courtesy U.S. 61years! enbargo...

If socialism don't work anyway then U.S. don't need impose enbargo, they are going to fail anyway right?

But to be Shure any surprise happens... the "defender democracy world wide" can not tolerate any insubordination in
his "backyard"...

And because worked fine with a tiny island, they tried from years with the FIRST military /resources potency on the planet: Russia

And for all the world to see now how it worked out... :happythumbsup: